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Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

what's with the pizza? i mean, you know?

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

jordan loves it.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

I am thinking of visiting in 2009.

Kennedy Center Plans Festival As Olive Branch To Arab Culture
Organizers of 2009 Event See Performing Arts as Means To Foster Understanding

By Jacqueline Trescott
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, April 28, 2006; C01

The Kennedy Center said yesterday that it will stage a festival of Arab culture in 2009 to bring many little-known artists onto an international stage and provide a counterpoint to the reality of war and violence that many Americans associate with the region.

Buoyed by the success of the China Festival, during which hundreds of artists played to sold-out audiences last fall, Michael M. Kaiser, the center's president, said he was looking for the next challenge. He said he was searching for a way to drive home the point that arts are a window onto understanding people:

"We don't know enough about what other people are about. We read about government and politics. That doesn't say anything about what they like, what they find beautiful. Also, the idea starts from my rather naive belief that arts create peace."

Kaiser said such a festival could be a good way to start breaking prevalent stereotypes. The League of Arab States is helping introduce the center to various performing groups, but the center will make the selections and have curatorial control, Kaiser said. "The countries want you to be encyclopedic, but the audience doesn't want that," he added.

Ambassador Hussein Hassouna, the Arab League's representative in Washington, said the festival "is very much needed at this time. In our world of today, and we all agree that it is very sad, all we hear is bad news. In the U.S., they only hear about conflict in the region, about violence, about problems, but they don't hear enough about the bright things that are happening."

The programming will be built around performing arts from the 22 countries that belong to the Arab League, from the founders, Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Yemen, to Bahrain, Somalia and Djibouti. The United States has been at war in Iraq since March 2003.

The events will probably take place over three to four weeks, and include film, visual arts and literature. "With this festival, we are going to explore the heritage, also. What the countries did in early centuries -- with maps, science and astronomy," said Alicia Adams, the center's vice president for international programs and dance.

Festivals anywhere in the non-Arab world that focus on Arab culture are very rare, Hassouna said. When Arab groups have performed in Washington, he said, it becomes an occasion for the Arab American and diplomatic communities. Last year, the Syrian band Hewar performed on the center's Millennium Stage. In February, the Chicago Classical Oriental Ensemble -- a group of musicians from the United States, Morocco, Egypt, Syria, Palestine, Israel and France -- performed the work of Egyptian composer Sayyed Daweesh, also on the Millennium Stage.

Last year, for the first time in 39 years, the Smithsonian Institution spotlighted an Arab country, Oman, in the annual Folklife Festival.

"An Arab festival is a huge challenge. Every culture is political, and the representation [raises] issues of politics and religion," said Richard Kennedy, deputy director of the Smithsonian's Center for Folklife and Cultural Heritage.

The plans drew praise from Rochelle Davis, an anthropologist at the Center for Contemporary Arab Studies at Georgetown University. "There's a vibrant production of dance and arts, and culture from high culture to the folkloric song and dance," Davis said. She introduces her students to the music of the Egyptian legend Oum Kalthoum and the Lebanese singer Fayrouz, as well as the contemporary Rai music of Algeria in her classes. "We have so many stereotypes -- seeing people performing dances and songs breaks down our ideas about how they are all evil," she said.

The planning will include a symposium next spring in Cairo to discuss the needs of arts organizations in the Arab world, Kaiser said. "It is very important for the Kennedy Center not to lose touch with the groups that come to the festivals. We are not doing our job if they come here and then go home without an ongoing relationship," he said.

For the China festival, Adams made nine trips in four years and saw performances throughout the country. Her office eventually coordinated the travel of 900 people. Logistics for this event will be more difficult, she predicted, and "war will limit where I travel. But we have not had a festival where we haven't been able to get the artists into the country."

© 2006 The Washington Post Company

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

OH SON OF A BITHC
ASLJEKFAW;O IHW2OTG30Q29

I FUCKED UP A THREAD

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

:(

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Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

That was to be the thread's image!

I suck.

TURN BACK TO THE ROBE OR HOUSECOAT!!!! ABANDON THREAD!

(I'm serious)

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Tiny is going to delete this anyway.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, now Tracer and that other dude are really going to hate us!!! Now we'll never get dates to prom.

GOOD JOB JESSE YOU RUINED OUR SENIOR YEAR BEST YEAR OF OUR LIVES!!!!

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago, I want to come visit you. If I had $$ to burn, it would be at the Intonation Festival next month, but I don't.

pixel farmer (Rock Hardy), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Teeny. Aargh.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

(I am only following the Chicago controversies to avoid doing what I need to do.)

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Hold me closer, teeny dancer.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

haha.

teeny (teeny), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

get out of this thread!!!!!!!!

go here!
NOW!

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

GOOD JOB JESSE YOU RUINED OUR SENIOR YEAR BEST YEAR OF OUR LIVES!!!!

What's our class song? I'm thinking "Holiday" by Green Day.

Man Man (kenan), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

WHY ARE YOU PEOPLE STILL HERE?

GET OUT! THIS THREAD COULD COLLAPSE AT ANY TIME! GET BACK TO ROBE/HOUSECOAT!

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Robe/Housecoat is dead.

"This thread has been locked by an administrator"

I'm guilty of threadicide.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

Relax. Have a nice glass of lake water.

Man Man (kenan), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

There's poop in it.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like Green Day. How about Holiday by MADONNA?

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

Robe/Housecoat sounds like a new theatrical production, like Topdog/Underdog or Homeboy/Kabul or even Noise/Funk.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Some sort of unholy merging of Glass Menagerie and Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

I need to go for a jog.

My cat's cunt is probably torn from its moorings by now.

I wish mine were.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Playwrights be lovin' slashes.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

it doesn't seem like this thread is actually about chicago, either :(

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Ten Little Indians doesn't seem like a murder mystery five minutes into it, either.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Amend title to:

Chicago: The Thread by the Lake

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

The Windy Thread.

The Second Thread.

Chi-Thread.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

a propos of body image: The Thread of Big Shoulders

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

We had that one already, didn't we?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

My Kind of Thread

Thread Butcher to the World

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Where the Bronx is Up--oh, wait....nevermind.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Thread Butcher to the World

HAW!

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: Post early, post often.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

There are all going in the notepad.

Man Man (kenan), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: Only in New York

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: Making JW's Underwear Ride Up His Ass Since 2006

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

I envy the DC folks for their thread titles. 'Kevin Costner Is A Republican', etc. We could do 'Judd Hirsch Is A Therapist' or 'Elizabeth Perkins Is A Kindergarten Teacher'.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 5 May 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

there's been something up JW's ass since long before 2006, i suspect.

Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I was gonna say...

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Is he really banned from ILE? That's hilarious. He's been given a Time Out.

Man Man (kenan), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Or a lack of something up his ass.

xp - they unbanned him.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Nobody who lives in Chicago gets Time Out. That's for the tourists.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Um, how about -

Chicago: Jennifer Anniston and Vince Vaughan are rumored to have purchased a large house in the suburbs together.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not even a particularly "quiet" person, but compared to these spazzoids I look like Lady Serenity.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

I AM BOERD AND IT'S THEIR FAULT xxpost

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

By "these spazzoids" I CLEARLY mean VV and JA.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

The Village Voice weighed in on this?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, i got paid 12 hours ago and somehow i'm broke already. who wants to get me drunk tonight?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the DC Metro thread "Jimmy Stewart is punching you in the face"

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

How about

Chicago: Vince Vaughan is fisting you a lot.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Jimmy Stewart is punching you in the face"

repeatedly, publicly?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: Vince Vaughan is fisting you a lot.

repeatedly, publicly?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: Jennifer Anniston wants to know if you have an extra tampon.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure whether I'm supposed to "get" these or not.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

I don't. But come on! Fisting! It's FUNNAY!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

You're supposed to NOT get them and then explain to us very carefully why you don't.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

LOL.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Fisting a little would just be a tease.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: Studs Terkel got run over by a reindeer.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: 48 Minutes To O'Hare, 55 Minutes TO Downtown.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: Do you want tamales?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

tamales, tamales??

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Ha!

Chicago: Roses for the pretty lady?

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: This one's called "Wilco #45."

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: Crews Are Working On The Track Ahead

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: Doors Open on the Left at Chicago.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite moment on the train was an early-morning commute, full car, dead silence until one guy starts preaching on and on about Jesus and saving ourselves, dead silence each time he stops speaking, and he says more about how we had to accept Jesus, and he says, "People. I am not drunk. I'm not that high."

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

i like the qualifying "that" in the second sentence.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

I was watching FOX News in the Morning in the lounge at Just Tires this morning. Man, local morning-news shows are kind of the worst, with all of the forced frivolity. They reported on a teacher who was fired for having a sex change, and Tamryn Hall grins and looks like she wants to say something, and then Dave Navarro (yeah, that's his name: I know, right?) is all, "What?" and she says, "Well, I'll probably be fired if I say what I was about to say!" Starts laughing. "Just that ... uh, it's a good thing she didn't teach sex-ed!" Navarro: "Well, I don't know, she probably knows a thing or two!" Ugh.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: You can't get into HEAVEN smokin' your cigarettes! (preacher with amp on State St. in front of Old Navy)

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: If you don't like the weather, just wait 5 minutes, and then go fuck yourself.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: Kevin got a hot dog from Home Depot for lunch.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

I like that Jesse's last one best so far.

Man Man (kenan), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, I see there are about two hundred more posts on that other thread since I left.

what's with the pizza? i mean, you know?
-- scott seward (skotro...), May 5th, 2006.


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jordan loves it.
-- Sweet Tater (kelstarr...), May 5th, 2006.

Just to set the record straight, I like Chicago deep dish, for it is pizza, but it's not my favorite pizza ever. I've grown increasingly attracted to thin-crusts and good NY-style slices because of the higher toppings-to-crust ratio. Also, my tendency to overeat pizza can be life-threatening when faced with stuffed/deep-dish.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

OK- No reservations for the lounge at T10. But....if it's OK with Jenny, I'll drive and pick up the cost of valet? I have to pick up my cat at 5 and if I did that and took the train, I would not arrive until after 6:30-ish.

Is that OK?

SEE YOU THERE.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: Stand Up Straight for Gay Day

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

EZ: you read Charlotte Simmons, right? I'm almost done with it and want to talk about it.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Take it to I Love Charlotte Simmons!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

i want to visit chicago

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) Haha.

Mark, you should!!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Btw this thread really should have been called "I Love Chicago."

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

i'm just looking for a good excuse! too bad the film festival i submitted to last year didn't want me!

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Which did you submit to? C.U.F.F.?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Come on there, s1ocki, and otto midnight will buy you a hot dog from Home Depot.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

A hot dog from Home Depot is a good excuse for travel.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that with our collective resouces we could find a way for an Aut0matic Vaud3vill3 production to be shown somewhere in town.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Jordan I was thinking about it, but decided it would be just a little too inflamatory

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

Wait wait, was it a Best's kosher hot dog? 'Cause those are the shit. After I found out they had a cart at Home Depot I didn't have to sneak into Sam's Club anymore.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know what kind of dog it was, i just know it was loaded with onions and mustard and extra heartburn.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

HA HA!

I love that Kevin actually is double-posting.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

HA HA!

I love that Kevin actually is double-posting.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

All this Chicago-thread nonsense has just reminded me of this, my first Chicago-centric ILX post: Where to take a date in Chicago?

AND YOU GUYS RUINED THAT WITH YOUR BANTER TOO. RUINERS!!!1`

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

OMG! This is too much!!!!!

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

LOL

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

wait! I had the same board open in two tabs!

LOLOLOLOL

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

in 4 hours i'll be double fisting and not in the vince vaughn sense.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

As long as you're not in tatters you're fine at T10.

LADIES AND GERMANS, FAGS AND FAGETTES:

I'm off to the Southside (90th and Cicero!) to pick up my TV set.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: We Blew Our Collective Load

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

Two things:
does anyone know any decent-hourly-wage-paying part time jobs up in this bitch? i just got shot down by my company and i need help.

last night on the train i saw a "juggalo" wearing an executioner's mask.


the kicker? it was a girl.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

can't help you milkmaid. but here is someone else's take on the circle line.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

last night on the train i saw a "juggalo" wearing an executioner's mask.

Hmmm, that's strange: last night I saw a car with two clowns in the front seat parked at Ainslie at Broadway.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

I hear the juggalos pay pretty well, Amanda, but you're out of luck as far as benefits go.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

i don't want bennies. i just want $13/hr for 20 hours a week. Is that too much to ask? i'm depressed.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

seafood dept. at whole foods.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, how about a temp agency? There's also always the whole retail/food service route, although that makes "decent paying" a little tough.

Did you all know that Cinco de Mayo is totally made up by Coors beer?

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I just realized that I don't really want to talk about it anymore.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

Don't be depressed, A. You'll find something.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

Wikipedia disagrees with Metafilter on this one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_mayo

Man Man (kenan), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Well, kind of.

1) Thus, even though Mexicans in Mexico celebrate their independence day on September 15th and 16th, Mexican-Americans are more likely to celebrate the May 5th anniversary of the Battle of the Puebla, which is not even commemorated with a national holiday in Mexico.

2) Althougth it is recognized as a day of celebration, nowadays it is not a federal holiday in Mexico, and whether or not people take time off school or work depends on the particular situation.

Just because it's not a national Holiday doesn't mean it's not observed in Mexico, which is what the first excerpt implies with its slippery liberal "language."

Man Man (kenan), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

how is it possible that i am both starving and suffering from heartburn?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying to think of a joke about slitting yr throat to spite yr stomach but nothing's coming up.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

"nothing's coming up" Oh, the GI humor.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

i've always assumed i'd hang myself rather than slit my throat if push came to shove on that front.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Carbon monoxide. It's like going to sleep.


Forever.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

no, it lacks the visual impact of a limp body handing by a rope.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

But it leaves a pretty corpse.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

it will take a lot more than a little CO in my blood to make me a pretty corpse.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Cue joke about "will I be able to play piano after the operation?"

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

speaking of suicide i'm going outside for a cigarette.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, take some prilosec. That stuff is like Jesus's tears hardened into little magical tablets that soothe stomach acid with God's glorious love.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Also, smoking makes heartburn worse. But you know that. Or you will after you smoke that cigarette.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

You and your metaphors.

Man Man (kenan), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

OMG SMOKING. I'm holding out for beer garden. Which reminds me to go to the other tread and find out what time I'm supposed to be there....

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

they took one of the handles off the revolving door at my office today

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Yeah, you know, that Happy Village place would leave us all a hell of a lot less broke than Trattoria Ten.

Man Man (kenan), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

oh my god was that satisfying.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

Are we posting random minutiae again? Hooray!

Hey guess what? I'm listening to music!

Man Man (kenan), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

I took two generic acetaminophen earlier, because my head was aching a little

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Trattoria 10 has $12 all you can eat delicious Italian food buffet for dinner. You will spend that much for dinner wherever you go and it won't be delicious Italian food. Also, drinks aren't that much more expensive if you're not drinking top shelf mixed drinks, and if you are, I don't want to hear about "cheaper."

Anyway, that's where I'm going because it's close to my work and I'm meeting my favorite Emily there. I would like to go to the Happy Village another night, however.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

That stuff is like Jesus's tears hardened into little magical tablets that soothe stomach acid with God's glorious love.

thanks but being raised as a catholic in boston in the 80s you can understand why i don't want my stomach soothed with God's glorious love.

fool me once, shame on you...

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

I will be dining at the Jammerman household tonight.

I'm all for Happy Village... maybe it would be a nice change o' pace to have a happy hour there sometime during the week next week? I think I'll drink enough at the Hideout for this weekend.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm meeting my favorite Emily there

is she cute and/or single?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

"Jammerman" -- cute. My friend Jess H0ff and her bf Chris B3rz@c refer to themselves, collectively, as HOZAC.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of revolving doors, I was just wondering last night how much of the cubic volume of air in each quadrant gets exchanged when it rotates around at "normal" speed. As, like, a climate-control thing. You know what's scary? There are probably formulas for that somewhere.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

hozac is shorthand for a well known chicago-based punk/porn magazine.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

I got stuck half-crushed in a revolving door a couple of months ago. DUDZONE.

Jeff and my names don't make anything cute when mixed together. Burth? Heagess? Burheath? It all sounds like noises you make a few hours after you've eaten spoiled seafood salad.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Question: does Trattoria have $2.50 PBRs by any chance? Because that's all I can afford to drink right now.

Sorry -- I know I was all UP about t10 earlier, and then I looked in my wallet.

Man Man (kenan), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Jeffess

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

hozac is shorthand for a well known chicago-based punk/porn magazine.

Horizontal Action, I'm assuming? All I know about them is they do that Blackout festival every year, but I didn't know they were anything besides a promoter.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

But I don't know anything about punk.

Fuck, I'm doing it again.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

My friends Kr|st|n Ar0la and J3ff (joygoat) Kuur3 are referred to (and occasionaly refer to themselves) as the "Kuurolas."

Heagess is good.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

yep, it was a publication from 1993-2005. last issue came out last year, there'll be a coffee table book later this year and a music compilation on swami.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Heagess sounds like the site of a medieval British battle.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

does Trattoria have $2.50 PBRs by any chance?

I think you already know the answer to that question. And it's okay. You can change your mind, even if you just change your mind for no reason.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

"Why would I know anything about punk/porn?"

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

So are you guys drinking and eating at this T10 place tonight, or what? I just want to hang for a beer or two, then I gotta get back on the road to go to that opening.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

http://i3.tinypic.com/xanghe.gif

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

What I mean is, will I be able to bow out easily, or do I have to get the buffet? xpost

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

i predict i will not be there!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Heagess sounds like the site of a medieval British battle.

http://static.flickr.com/23/24995177_74d04e262c.jpg

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'll drop by for a beer or two. But not three. No way.

Man Man (kenan), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Our AK/DK logo roolz. Admit it.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I just figured that out! That is cool.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

T10 is a bar that's attached to a restaurant. It's a yuppie loop bar, that I cannot deny, but it is a bar. Come in and go downstairs and there is the bar part. You can come and have a drink or two and leave. You can get food or not - it's not a sit down dinner situation. I will be there at approx. 5:15.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

If I had more time I would embroider towels with that logo on it as a gift for Dan and Amanda.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

i have decided to go to retrowash and throw my laundry in one or more washing machines. while my clothes are agitating i will walk two doors down to the empty bottle. i will enjoy both the free set courtesy of the hoyle brothers and the nearly free pbr's which cost only $2.00 per 12 oz. bottle. i will come home and fold said laundry. at some point i will wish i ate dinner.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm slowly using my mental juices to turn this afternoon's despair into hard, cold loathing. It's working out alright.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

If you keep it up, you'll turn it into a diamond!

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.crabwalk.com/pix/rodent.jpg

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

That's very scary!

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

'manda, I have no leads on $13/hr jobs, but I will go with you to the zoo on sunny days until you get one.

J., I'm embarrassed to say I've only read a few different chapters of Charlotte Simmons that were published in Rolling Stone and, um, Men's Journal before it was published. I've daydreamed about reading the rest but haven't. There's my confession.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Yay! I love the zoo.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) Ha! I remember talking to you about the book in winter 2004-05 at that weird coffee shop at Ridge/Hollywood, and it made me feel guilty for not reading more novels.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda I love yr angry weasel pictures at the same time I am sorry you feel driven to them.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

"But Wicker Park is a popular hangout for rodents, he said."

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Heh, John, I remember that too because I had just ordered The Plot Against America (read it long ago) and Charlotte Simmons that week.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Someday I will read a Philip Roth book.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

OMG I saw a raccoon run up a telephone pole the other week. Is that normal?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

I was so so on The Plot Against America. So so so that I didn't finish it, even.

I just saw an article about a raccoon living in a half-built high rise! I'll try to find it.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Find the raccoon?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

The Human Stain, The Plot Against America and I Married A Communist are all very satisfying. (Someone disagrees - I'm guessing it's Kenan, but I can't remember. xpost - Jenny!)

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it wasn't me. I loved that book.

Man Man (kenan), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Plot Against America, I mean.

Man Man (kenan), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Here it is!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/custom/newsroom/chi-060504raccoon-in-loop,1,1931880.story

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

It would be IMPOSSIBLE for me to be more sick of the Illinois Probate Code. FYI.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

For some reason I'm really amused that the Preservation Hall Jazz Band has a myspace page.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.southern.net/southern/band/PROBO/pics/SNN30M.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 5 May 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

I'm leaving work now, hopefully the bus will be fast today. Have a nice weekend!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

so, this is the new Chicago thread? hi Chicago people! I am also a Chicago person.

horsehoe (horseshoe), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

O RLY?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

By which I mean, hello horsehoe! You seem nice and smart!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

welcome, horse hoe!!

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

rly! hi jaymc and Tracer Hand.

re: Chicago pizza, I like it, but it helps if I pretend it's not pizza, but some other, casserole-y type food. my notion of the Platonic form of pizza comes from east coast pizza, and if I go in expecting "pizza" the Chicago version (deep-dish, I mean) kind of freaks me out.

horsehoe (horseshoe), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

ohmygod I only just realized that the registered version of my login name is misspelled. mortification! um, I totally meant to do that, and a horse hoe is totally a thing that you've just never heard of.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, I noticed that a long time ago but figured there was a reason for it! What do you do in Chicago?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

is that a rhetorical question?

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

I think I've said this before, but I like the ad for Time Out Chicago (I've spotted it on the el) that reads: "If you're not reading us, what are you doing in Chicago?" Such a clever double-meaning!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

hmm

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

Otherwise, no, not a rhetorical question. I am trying to be welcoming.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

I am a grad student, so mainly I read in Chicago.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Grad student in what? Tell more.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

easy, hard charger

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 5 May 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

i've heard of horse hoes... well, mule holes or were they donkeys? go to tijuana. oh yeah and it's cinco de mayo, today is the day for tequila.

sonore (sonore), Friday, 5 May 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

Poor CPO Brenda Waterbed. She's still fucked up. She has food on her face and vomit on her feet.

I said earlier tonight that I thought that when docs put a creature under, they put salve on their eyes, and I was right; she has gummy petroleum-based crap all over her eyes which makes her look even worse as she stumbles and staggers around the house. She has aroused a pity and unnatural kindness in me that I'm not sure how to handle.

It's awfully cute to see her try to make a corner--she stops, resets her front feet, stands still (and meows), and then resumes motion.

This reminds me of an article I saw reprinted in Harper's which they dubbed "The Cute and the Anti-Cute." It was about how our perception of cuteness is rooted in helplessness.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Saturday, 6 May 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

Update:

Cat has taken to standing at various spots in the apartment, holding very still and staring intently at whatever is in front of her. Occasionaly she will sit while staring.

Varying from her usual ways, she is dragging her tail, and sometimes lying down quite abruptly. At these time she mutters, "mew."

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Saturday, 6 May 2006 03:55 (nineteen years ago)

You sure your cat hasn't been drinking your Vodka? Cause that state sounds familiar.

Man Man (kenan), Saturday, 6 May 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

It was about how our perception of cuteness is rooted in helplessness.

Among other things, I guess. That and an eye-to-head size ratio somewhere between puppy and Margaret Keane.

Man Man (kenan), Saturday, 6 May 2006 04:09 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, my kitty is helpless enough, or at least really needy. Her constant (and literal) caterwauling because she wants to be on my lap is adorable to guests, but really fucking annoying to me most of the time. THIS IS MY LAP GET YOUR OWN.

Man Man (kenan), Saturday, 6 May 2006 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse admitted tonight that he almost cried while listening to "Alone Again (Naturally)," and had to change the music, and somehow this makes me feel like I win.

Man Man (kenan), Saturday, 6 May 2006 04:14 (nineteen years ago)

Ok fuck this being home shit. My neighbors are being loud as hell, and ain't stopping any time soon (I'm so glad I missed the band), and I may as well go join them. Also, they just played New Order, and segued into something off of New York Noise vol. 1, and now into some wacky-ass Broken Social Scene remix. These are my people.

Man Man (kenan), Saturday, 6 May 2006 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

I may partition my drive for Linux tonight. Depends on how sleepy I get. Plz wish luck.

Man Man (kenan), Saturday, 6 May 2006 06:14 (nineteen years ago)

Hm. My downstairs neighbor (and my connect for a lot of great music and video) is, I am realizing, a bit of a prick. He's a smart guy, and that's not the problem. He insists on being smarter than you -- that's the problem. This is why when you say something mildly making fun of the hilariously over-the-top "LOOK AT HOW SMART I AM" thing he just said, he doesn't even blink, he just skips a short beat and keeps talking as if you never said anything. This is why he has chosen a girlfriend who is an unbelievable airhead, and when drunk, shames her proficiency at conversation in front of everyone. This is why he has chosen a best friend and roommate who worships him. I don't know why I hadn't noticed a leaning toward this before tonight, but suddenly I want to never stop punching him.

Man Man (kenan), Saturday, 6 May 2006 06:22 (nineteen years ago)

I feel bad now for calling his girlfriend an airhead. I don't mind her, really. She's sweet. She's consistently below the level of the room, though, and he picks on her publicly for being so, and that's a real asshole thing to do.

Man Man (kenan), Saturday, 6 May 2006 06:45 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, Chicago, I want to take some guitar lessons this summer, for cheap from somebody who will teach me to play a handful of cool songs. Do any of youse know someone who gives guitar lessons?

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 6 May 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

I could try and teach you, though historically I am not that great at teaching and I am not technically a great guitarist. But if you just want to learn some chords and how to play some songs, I could probably handle that. I would kind of be the anti-guitar teacher.

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 6 May 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

It's weird because a lot of times when I'm doing things I have an internal monologue where it's like I'm teaching someone how to do something (like say I'm cooking a food, in my brain I'm telling someone how to cook it), which might make you think I could be a good teacher, but I unfortunately sometimes lack patience, which makes for bad teaching.

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 6 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

OMG I do that same internal monologue thing! Seriously! Sometimes if I'm really bored, I'll pretend I'm lecturing a class on TS Elliot's the Wasteland or something, too.

Learning chords and playing some songs is exactly all I want to be able to do. I like you so that's a bonus. There is some musical literacy in my distance past, but it's been awhile. You aren't going to yell at me if I don't catch on right away, are you?

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 6 May 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

Like, I don't want to play "out" or play to an audience. I want to entertain myself and horrify the cats by singing and playing some of my favorite indie rock hits in my very own living room.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 6 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, I'm going over to a friend's house to study so Nick, if yr SRLSY into it, email me and we can discuss specifics.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 6 May 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'll teach you not to play the guitar.

Cat: sleeping a lot. She is choosing to lie down in weird places. Last night I got up for water and she was lying down in the dark, in the middle of the kitchen floor.

Also, a terribly cute development--she will now lie down with her forehead on the floor. She looks like a person resting their head on a desk.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Saturday, 6 May 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

OK, Jenny, I'll give it a shot. I can at least show you power chords and barre chords and that should be enough to get you to play enough to sing over.

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 6 May 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, who's eating curry right now?


I AM.

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 6 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Covering yourself in cow blood isn't so special. I want performance artists to cover themselves in fire ants.

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 6 May 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I think that people should look east when solving problems.

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 6 May 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

John, check yer gmail. You have been ysi'd.

Man Man (kenan), Saturday, 6 May 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

so is anyhone else fucked up on mint juleps!!?!?!?!?!?!
tunnel of love and mighty go go players (who are aweosme) are at subt tonight if you don't go to the hideout. i lost $30 on the derby. fuck you horses.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

I fucking hate horses.

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

i had four chances to win, 1st, 2nd, 7th, and last and neither of my horses came in. since first and last were the same odds i bid on two 50-1 shots. neither lost. fuckers.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

anyone going to subt tonight!!???!!!??!?!?!?!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

I lost $4, which I can live with. Or rather, WITHOUT. Up next: nap and back into the city.

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 May 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

if i'd gone to an otb i would've been better off. instead i got into a pool at a certain indie club that's around the corner from my house. i thought i could corner the market on nags, i guess not.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

Better luck next time.

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

GUESS WHICH HORSE I WANTED TO SLEEP WITH!!!!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

alright i need a nap.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

Have fun at the Hideout, N&S&B Fiction! I will think of you while I read YET MORE about the Illinois Probate Code. Please think of me while you ROCK THE HOUSE.

Nick, I will take you up on your offer and you can teach me to ROCK THE HOUSE. I will teach you about the Illinois Probate Code. Or pay you in cash. Or beer. Or Cheezits. Or cats. Or a combination.

Have fun at Subt, otto von kevinstein. Sorry about your $$$. I forgot it was derby day or I would have worn a more elaborate hat.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

i've been playing the same four chords for 40 minutes, my upstairds neighbors are organizing a lynch mob. i'm fucked up on juleps and gin and tonics.

safety, come to subt, the first two bands are the only ones worth seeing. you can make it home with plenty of time to studystudystudy.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 6 May 2006 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

hot damn! that's all i got to say right now but hot damn!!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Sunday, 7 May 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

There seems to be a lack of night action on here this evening.

I messed up my iPod. It turns out that it is actually important to take the 10 seconds to "eject" the iPod before physically disconnecting.

I had to do a little restoration, but things are back on track.

In other news, I picked a tulip from Jenny and Jeff's ivy, and cut some lilacs from the neighbor's tree and now I have a lovely boquet of stolen posies.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Sunday, 7 May 2006 03:49 (nineteen years ago)

You are a bad bad man. What's next, tulips from Michigan Avenue? BLUEBONNETS FROM TEXAS HIGHWAYS?

Man Man (kenan), Sunday, 7 May 2006 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

BTW, if you're going to steal a bouquet, at least learn to spell the motherfucker.

Man Man (kenan), Sunday, 7 May 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

eatmygina

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Sunday, 7 May 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

oh i fucked up.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Sunday, 7 May 2006 06:00 (nineteen years ago)

pls tell me u made it home ok wild man.

Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 7 May 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Well, he at least made it to a computer OK.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Sunday, 7 May 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, I never even made it out of the house! Rice & beans + Alias DVDs totally sucked me in.

Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 7 May 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

John, Nick, etc. - Sonic Youth cameo on Gilmore Girls this Tues.

Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 7 May 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 7 May 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

I got crunk at a wedding gig in Mke last night.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 7 May 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

tunnel of love totally blew me away last night. it's been a while since a band has completely blown my mind like that. mighty go go players didn't do much for me, i like piero better with the fatals. did not stick around for demolition doll rods.

there was also some drunk dialing involved.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Sunday, 7 May 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

I just remembered that I watched Robot Chicken last night. I don't remember any of it at all due to a combination of being very tired, having 2 beers and lying on my very freshly Scotch-Garded couch. WOOZY!

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Sunday, 7 May 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Waiting for Godot last night at PROP THTR was really good! Surprisingly funny -- although I'd never read the play, so I didn't totally know what I was in for.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 7 May 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't do anything last night.

Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 7 May 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

I had a modified English breakfast: baked beans, hot dog and fried eggs with whole wheat pita on the side.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Sunday, 7 May 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Waiting for Godot is funny. Wasn't Zero Mostel in the (a) movie version? I want to see it.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 7 May 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Dried apricots rock.

Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 7 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

How was the FFs show, guys?

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 7 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

It was pretty good. It was the typical thing where I felt like we were a little sloppy and off (and my voice started to give out about halfway through, leading to lots of pubertyesque cracks) but then afterwords everyone was really complimentary, including strangers, so I guess I was wrong. It was pretty packed and fun and we got paid 3x more than we have ever gotten paid before.

BTW, "Raw Yang" is being shipped on the 11th so there's a decent chance we'll have copies to sell at the Schuba's show.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 7 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

i wanna copy.

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 7 May 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

Well then come to the show. OH WAIT YOU CAN'T, YOU MOVED, LIKE A DUMBASS.

Jenny, give me an email or call re: guitar lessons.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 7 May 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

dumbass like a FOX

gbx (skowly), Sunday, 7 May 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

raw yang vinyl?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Sunday, 7 May 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

No vinyl, unfortunately. Would've been cool, especially with our artwork, but we're on a very very small label that can't really afford to spring for vinyl.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 7 May 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like I need a new hobby. Feel free to make recommendations.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 7 May 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

golf
watch repair
knitting
sculpture

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 00:10 (nineteen years ago)

fishing
a martial art
culinary knife skills
fine woodworking

Why all my suggestions involve extremely sharp/pointy things? I'm not even cranky tonight! (Tonight.)

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 May 2006 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

And I'm not cranky because I got shit done this weekend LIKE WHOAH. Even the bed full of laundry crying to be folded I don't mind, cos I've got "Edward Scissorhands" to watch.

WAIT a SECond....

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 May 2006 00:26 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, you guys really named it Raw Yang. I'm so proud.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 May 2006 00:56 (nineteen years ago)

yoga
on-line poker
roller coaster enthusiast
cat herding

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 May 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

flyfishing
chronic masturbation
amateur chemistry
graffiti

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

I love hobbies, I wish I had more.

One I'd love to pick up is Skat, a German trick based card game. I'd want to learn it with a German deck though.

I'd like to learn to brew beer but that would take a level of commitment that I'm not willing to give. Also, I hate washing dishes, and there is a lot of that involved.

I love typing.

I think my biggest hobby right now is organizing things. I love metawork.

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 8 May 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'd also like to learn how to play golf.

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 8 May 2006 01:36 (nineteen years ago)

Also, take up tennis, so I could have someone to play.

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 8 May 2006 01:36 (nineteen years ago)

u r an interesting person lol

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

John, check yer gmail. You have been ysi'd.

thx btw!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 02:20 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, I forgot about this:

I've got it!


I've got what Kenan does. He always speaks for "us", right? He always speaks in the general/plural. It's kind of funny!

Do I win a prize?

-- Adam In Real Life (adamr...), July 20th, 2005 5:58 PM. (nordicskilla) (link)

I miss Adam.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 02:45 (nineteen years ago)

Where did he go?

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 May 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno. Sometimes he takes hiatuses from ILX. I know he was having hip surgery recently, too.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

I should not be a writer. I have spent the majority of this evening prepping myself to write seven short singles blurbs, and the pressure of coming up with anything interesting to say, much less a clever way in which to say it, is too much right now. I should've just gone to a movie in the time I have spent idly staring at the computer.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

Better, perhaps, was the time when singles reviews were due on Thursday, and I'd start writing them on the el and then polish off the rest before I left work. I don't do very well with having "all day" to do something.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

You know, me neither. I could have taken a couple days off work next week to write a paper, but I decided I'd get more done if I worked half days.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 May 2006 03:08 (nineteen years ago)

At least I wrote a song, or at least the beginnings of a song, today -- partially inspired by one of the songs I'm supposed to write about (Hot Chip's "Boy From School"). (Although, oddly, it also reminds me of Joanna Newsom's "'En Gallop.'")

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 03:39 (nineteen years ago)

This old post is roffletastic, too:

I have now seen this movie THREE times in the theater, which I'm pretty sure is a record for me. (First time was supposed to be with Kenan, NA, and Sarah McL, but was effectively by myself, since we never found each other; second time was with my best friend; third time was with my girlfriend.) (Two was probably enough, but after I raved about it so much, the gf wanted to see it for herself. So.)

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), May 4th, 2004 2:46 PM. (jaymc) (link)

(jaymc wtf you have a gfriend? Why did I not know this? Is she a "Canadian girlfriend" or something?)

-- NA (naamm...), May 4th, 2004 2:49 PM. (Nick A.) (link)

Haha, no, not a Canadian girlfriend (a la The Onion, right?)

And you don't know about it because it's only been a month. I'm still in that phase where I like to work in gratuitous references to her in casual conversation, to brag about the fact that I have a girlfriend.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), May 4th, 2004 2:58 PM. (jaymc) (link)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 03:55 (nineteen years ago)

SOME THINGS NEVER CHANGE

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

i saw broken flowers this weekend, and expected to find it boring because of all the negative reviews on netflix. but netflix users frequently don't have any taste, and i should know that by now.

ebert on the movie: "No actor is better than Bill Murray as doing nothing at all, and being fascinating while not doing it."

(not doing ...nothing? he clearly means not doing anything. i don't like that wording, but he's OTM at the same time). but i really liked the movie and it held my attention despite my addlebrained tendencies and its quiet tone and it made me laugh. go go bill murray.

also: david attenborough on weirdass funky evil-looking glowing creatures from the deep ocean. cool stuff.

gmorning chicago. it's damn pretty out today.

Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 8 May 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

It's very pretty indeed. But draw your curtains Julia, for it is too lovely a day, and surely Nature will cast a sheet of clouds across the firmament and drop a horey frost on the tender buds should she catch sight of you and take it as a challenge to her own loveliness.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

i wish i could sleep about 150 minutes longer each morning. i think i'd be much more productive.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning. For once, I got enough sleep last night.

Jenny, I played a gig over the weekend with a attorney/trombonist from Mpls. So, there is hope for you as an attorney/guitarist. Or even a guitarist/attorney!

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

Do you wanna hear funny work stories from a waiter? YOU DO??! GRRREAT!

-I heard a table saying that a waiter (w/ Catch for all of its near 16 years) had told them that we the creme brulee was the best dessert on the menu, but that we were sold out. I asked him and he confirmed that when feeling his bitter oats he does like to say things like that.

-Another server (very young*) "accidentally" called a young lady at his table an asshole. She ordered a dessert (the creme brulee, actually) which her husband began to nibble at. When the waiter came by she said "Oh, I think I need another because he ate some, ha ha ha." The waiter laughed and said, "Do you really want another, or are you just being an asshole?"

Fortunately everyone at the table was half-drunk, so they all thought that was hilarious. The waiter himself almost committed seppuku.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

*young--

he's 24! and I think of him as "very young." Now I feel "very old."

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

xxpost When did Jesse turn into Keats?

Man Man (kenan), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

I love weather like this, but it also means that I will be smoking more than my share of cigarettes outside just for the sunshine.

Man Man (kenan), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

i'm going to make another half-assed attempt at quitting when this pack is done. which should be in about 4 hours.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

haha jesse.

fuck Nature. she's making me sneeze.

i have an awesome new robe, but alas, this is no longer the robe thread.

Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

Erybuddy think positive probate-related thoughts towards me at 1:30 today. It's my only seated exam, and I'm not quite as well prepared as I might like. Yikes!!!!

It's good to know that I'll be able to play guitar for change in the train station since I am not sure I'll be able to write wills for money.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Sing a will. Sing your life, sing your li-iife! SING YOUR LI-IIFE!

/Morrissey

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

Many other do, why don't you... do you want to?

Ooooh.... oaaaaoohhhhh

Man Man (kenan), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning Chicago. I'm fighting off a bit of rage.

Make no mistake my friend, all of this will end.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

I watched a bunch of movie trailers yesterday. I'm going to see "The Proposition" on Friday. Others of great import:

X3
Da Vinci Code
Art School Confidential (! Zwigoff and Clowes, together again!)
Superman Returns (Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor!)

And the trailer for "I Am A Sex Addict" is pretty funny.

Man Man (kenan), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

Not having a computer at home right now makes me miss large chunks of thread.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - But before you go, take a look at the truth: you have a lovely singing voice.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

It's even more Morrisey when he changes it up in the last verse and says, "Make no mistake my friend, your pointless life will end."

Man Man (kenan), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

I hardly ever see movies.

(ps - you're right)

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of "Art School Confidential," there was some crazy stuff at that show on Friday. Some crazy and good, some just crazy.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

speaking of crazy and good, tunnel of love blew me away saturday night. mighty go go players did not and i didn't stick around for demolition doll rods.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

So you've said.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

did i? well tol was good enough that it bears repeating. thricely, tunnel of love blew me the fuck away saturday night.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)


Fat man sitting on a little stool
Takes the money from my hand while his eyes take a walk all over you
Hands me the ticket smiles and whispers good luck
Cuddle up angel cuddle up my little dove
We'll ride down baby into this tunnel of love

I can feel the soft silk of your blouse
And them soft thrills in our little fun house
Then the lights go out and it's just the three of us
You me and all that stuff we're so scared of
Gotta ride down baby into this tunnel of love

There's a crazy mirror showing us both in 5-D
I'm laughing at you you're laughing at me
There's a room of shadows that gets so dark brother
It's easy for two people to lose each other in this tunnel of love

it ought to be easy ought to be simple enough
Man meets woman and they fall in love
But the house is haunted and the ride gets rough
And you've got to learn to live with what you can't rise above if you want to ride on down in through this tunnel of love

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

You know what I respect about you, Otto? It's all about the music with you. I mean, no one's ever heard of any of the bands you go to see, and you get wasted and have an amazing time nonetheless. :-D

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

I like that song.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Me too

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, I'd like to see some of those bands. Well, if they're punk bands at least. I dunno if I like the garagey stuff though.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

I only like punk if it's, like, art-punk.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Like the Meatmen?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

The who now?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Never mind.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not sure what the hell you'd call tol, they were some sort of glam/punk hybrid and, truthfully, they kind of scared me a little. there was a really bad hardcore band on stage first, not sure who they were but i wish i found out so i could avoid them in the future. then tol set up not on stage but in front of the sound booth at sub-t. i didn't even know they were there until the christmas lights that had strung around the amps were plugged in. there were two amps that were somehome lashed to the wall. one guitar, one guy singing (they traded off, whomever wasn't singing was playing) and this asian dude playing a kit that consisted of a snare, a floor tom and a 16 inch cymbal. it was weird and it was primal and when it was over i wasn't sure what i'd just seen but i knew i wanted to see it again.

and, uhm, i was wasted before i set foot at sub-t that night. i went to the bottle for the bcs show that afternoon and was drinking mint juleps in honor of the derby. when i walked out at 6:30 my bloodstream was about 30% jim beam and simple syrup. then somehow i wrangled a date for the show and it seemed to go really really well. then i made an illadivised drunk dialing manuever that STILL didn't kill my chances.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Admiral, that's admirable.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

It's amazing, is what it is.

I went to a Sunday cook-out yesterday, i.e. one of my favorite things in the world. Brats, mac & cheese, way too much beer, hanging out in the park w/friends and video game developers. It was lovely.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

John and Jesse, check your gmail.

Man Man (kenan), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

w/friends and video game developers

And ne'er the twain shall meet.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

i was walking down division yesterday afternoon and i don't know if i've ever seen so many stunningly beautiful people in my life. and, magically, a good number of them seem to have paired up. just really fantastic looking people. some of them even had great looking dogs.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, well, a friend's husband works in the video game industry, so all of his co-workers are but acquaintances to me. Really nice people, though.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Oh hush, JMZ, there was a fair amount of art-/post-punk on the mix I made you and you never said you like ANY of it. ;)

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know what I mean when I say art-punk, to be honest. Les Savy Fav? Fugazi?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Which, if anyone wants the playlist for, they have only to ask. (XP to myself)

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

can i have the playlist?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

me too me too me too

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah okay I don't know Les Savy Fav and I don't really like Fugazi (maybe I am not/was never emo/indie enough?). I think of art-punk as...J Richman/Modern Lovers, the Raincoats, maybe Television Personalities, Swell Maps, Mission of Burma, Homosexuals, maybe the Mountain Goats...? (XP)

Otto: yes. Will it annoy people if I post it here?

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of "Art School Confidential," there was some crazy stuff at that show on Friday. Some crazy and good, some just crazy

Dan you cannot write this and leave it at that.

Two friends and I took full advantage of the multiplex situation and saw "United 93" (not my idea, but glad I saw it), then snuck into the next showiing of "Mission Impossible III" (after having a long conversation about whether "United 93" is good except that it's marketed as a summer action movie, and then coming around to the idea that it's a great movie to have in the multiplexes - one without trumped-up heroism, a slanted good-vs-evil story, etc.). My friends then went on to sneak into "Friends With Money" after that, but I quit after two movies.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

no, it won't annoy anyone laurel. and yes, i speak for everyone.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

ALTHOUGH

I don't really like Fugazi (maybe I am not/was never emo/indie enough?).
You breakin' my heart. Fugazi indie/emo? I cry bitter angry tears. And I'm not even the world's biggest Fugazi fan, but still.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

I think of art-punk as...J Richman/Modern Lovers, the Raincoats, maybe Television Personalities, Swell Maps, Mission of Burma, Homosexuals, maybe the Mountain Goats...? (XP)

I guess I feel like Modern Lovers are art-punk in the way that Talking Heads are art-punk, which is to say part of a larger umbrella scene but not necessarily embracing the genre wholeheartedly, at least from a sonic perspective. Mountain Goats have punk spirit, sure, but I think the cliche "angular guitar" was invented for art-punk bands, and strumming an acoustic, no matter how frenetic, doesn't quite cut it for me. I don't really know any of the other bands you name, despite owning a Raincoats album (I burned it from Kelsey and listened to it once or twice).

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

You breakin' my heart. Fugazi indie/emo? I cry bitter angry tears. And I'm not even the world's biggest Fugazi fan, but still.

Wait, how is Fugazi NOT indie/emo? Isn't Rites of Spring -- featuring one Guy Piccioto -- widely acknowledged as the first emo band?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

I second Nick taking up cat herding. We could use a good cat herder in the apartment.

I had a pretty good weekend. I think my favorite part was sitting in the park yesterday reading Lovely Bones and watching cute dogs. Or maybe it was eating THE CRAZIEST FOOD EVER (spaghetti, eggs, & potatoes all fried up together).

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Evan, your bandmates are awesome. Love, Sarah

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Just because one guy was in one band doesn't mean that the next band he's in is going to be the exact same, does it?

Minor Threat/=Fugazi either. Sorry, I'm in a foul mood today.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Sonic Youth was the epitome of art punk -- the whole no-wave thing. God, who even cares anymore. I don't.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

No, and I've never actually heard Rites of Spring, so what do I know. But I also don't use the word "emo" as a pejorative.

(xpost I was going to mention Sonic Youth earlier. They're like the best band ever, I think.)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Dan you cannot write this and leave it at that.

Yeah, I thought I'd just kind of bait you guys with it and see if anyone actually wanted to hear about it!

The show was (actually still is) on three floors of a building in the west loop. My friends' stuff was on the third floor, along with a bunch of other artists. The first thing one sees when walking onto the 3rd floor is a video of a woman (not one of the people I know well but someone I had met at parties before) reciting some sort of transcript of sorority girls talking about what feminism means to them while getting repeatedly slapped on the ass (I'm talking big red mark style slapping.) There are several more of these videos, each with the same woman reciting selections from the sorority feminists while something is being "done." One had her waxing her eyebrows, one with a man painting her toenails, one with her jerking a guy off, one with her getting eaten... well, you get the picture. It was kind of strange to see these videos playing over and over and then see toddlers and other little kids wandering around. The best part was after I wandered in I saw my friend Sam, and the first thing he said to me was "Did you see the porn?"

There were some other "art?" type exhibits (including one consisting of crumpled-up pieces of paper on the floor that I heard, hilariously, had been "cleaned up" by mistake once already!) but I feel unqualified talking about them too much. The makeout video turned out well. The other Golden Girls exhibits were cool. I am happy my friends are done with school.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

(I'm A) Don Juan / The Embarrassment
Beep / Pylon
Sunshine Yellow / Bertrand Burgalat
On Peak Hill / Stars
I Live the Life I Love / Willie Parker
To Reach Me / The Go-Betweens
North By North / The Bats
Ballad Of The Times / Everything But The Girl
Drive Me To The Park / The Embarrassment
Nervous Wreck / Call and Response
Straw Man / Barbara Manning
Make Me Sad / Vic Goddard & The Subway Sect
Ageless Beauty (The Most Serene Republic RMX) / Stars
Sunday, Lovely Sunday / Edson
Spring Rain / The Go-Betweens
Block Of Wood / The Bats
Lipstick + Creme / Alter Ego
Untitled Melody / Orange Juice
Everybody's Out Of Town / B.J. Thomas
Enclave / Vic Goddard & The Subway Sect
Half Acre / Hem
Quiet Heart / The Go-Betweens
Three Cheers For Our Side / Orange Juice
Kills all my fun / David Kilgour
Soft South Africans / Homosexuals
The Cuckoo / Rabbit Songs
Green / Barbara Manning
Soho Square / Kirsty MacColl
Odds And Ends / Dionne Warwick
Tell that Girl to Shut Up / Alter Ego
Standin' on the Corner / Dorothy Berry
Don't Worry Babe, You're Not The Only One Awake / The Nectarine No9

Pls keep in mind the real purpose of this mix was to introduce J to OJ/Go-Betweens (RIP GMcC)/Subway Sect and other stuff, hence the repeat appearances.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

(Sorry about Fugazi love/hate! Everyone I've known who's been a fan -- or past fan, since the band seems to appeal a lot to teenagers...? -- were kind of self-consciously scene-y and mostly emo BUT the kind of emo that wd describe ITSELF as "punk". Which is just...well, we probably shouldn't have that conversation.)

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

(including one consisting of crumpled-up pieces of paper on the floor that I heard, hilariously, had been "cleaned up" by mistake once already!)

Someone likes Felix Gonzalez-Torres.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite songs on Laurel's mix are the Call and Response song, the Stars remix, and the two Bacharach numbers (BJ Thomas and Dionne Warwick). This should maybe tell you something.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

man i haven't listened to barbara manning in a long time. i've got to rectify that. that barbara manning & the go-luckys! ep is great. although i think the ex roomate may have gone off with that one. dang.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Fugazi = the junior political activist starter kit.

Man Man (kenan), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

I unabashedly love Fugazi. They put on the best live rock concert I have ever seen.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, those weren't the songs you supposed to like best, Jay. They were basically just PADDING tho you know I do love and cherish that Stars rmx.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah -- K has a point. I would say Fugazi-loving has more to do with politics and muscular musicianship than scene-posing or emotions or whatever. I dunno. Maybe it looks different from the rearview mirror than it did at the time.

One thing I have learned is that Jaymc likes what he likes and I cannot change that.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

ALSO that song we were talking about on the other thread is ON YOUR MIX, J*** C*********.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ modernist art! :>

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

X-Ray Specs = Art Punk?

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

See, to me, emo = a sound, and it's a sound that Fugazi seems compatible with. It's true that there's not much hug-me-now heart-on-sleevishness, though.

One thing I have learned is that Jaymc likes what he likes and I cannot change that.

You have to understand that I'm open-minded -- but also that I have distinct preferences for what I like in music, and it shouldn't be all that surprising that the songs I gravitate toward on your mix are the ones that have jazz or disco elements rather than a lo-fi jangle-rock aesthetic.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

ALSO that song we were talking about on the other thread is ON YOUR MIX, J*** C*********.

Yeah, I just noticed that! Oops.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

I have a question. I'm finally going to the eye doctor today (incl. dreading eye drops). I don't especially want new frames (or at least I don't expect to find any that I love), yet what am I supposed to do while getting new lenses for my glasses? Not wear glasses for a couple days?

I suppose I should have dug around for a pair of my old glasses, that would have been something at least.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

They should give you loaners, like auto shops.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah but you described yrself to me as a pop boy and I don't know anything about disco or jazz so I didn't twig from the rest of your rekkid collection -- I just tried to choose layered/melodic/poppy examples of stuff. Note: Evan's mix contained almost the same artists but different songs and was rock-out-ier and mosty travel-themed. What can I say, I was going through a Postcard-and-similar phase.

JMZ: Haha, "oops" is right -- now I know how much you didn't listen to it!

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

OH MAN. I just discovered I can order from the little noodle shop on 57th street ONLINE. Spring rolls and soup here I come!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, I would suspect that once the lenses are made, you can just come in and have them installed. You wouldn't have to wait around a couple days for them. But what do I know?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, that would be cool. I guess I was just assuming that because I've gotten new frames + lenses the last few times, and it's always taken a few days.

I am also undecided as to whether I'm moving in a more prominent/plastic-y or unobtrustive/wire frame direction. Probably the latter.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

I am a pop boy.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I guess with different frames there are different lens attachment procedures. I've pretty much always had wire frames so they just tighten them up a little and they're ready to go.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Pop like Bacharach and Blondie.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

I am in love with Larb.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

I used to call my first cat Cocoa Baby Larb sometimes. That's gross in retrospect, knowing what I know now.

You know, being lectured about how I need to do a better job of keeping the conference room clean does not make me feel very professional. :-(
My coworkers leave plans in there, price lists, brick samples, paper towels from lunch, magazines...

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

I have wanted to hear the Embarassment for a long time but I never have. I want to hear more Go-Betweens too, I've only really heard the later stuff (e.g., the album w/ Sleater-Kinney).

I know Fugazi is "political," but I never listened to them out of any kind of political identification or interest. I think this is tied in to my thing where I don't really pay that much attention to lyrics.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, Hi.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Hi.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

I was supposed to be a good worker bee today and then I got scolded for the conference room being messy. :-(

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, sweetie. But I suspect you're doing the thing where you take a minor comment and turn it into something bigger than it is.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

Maaaaaaayyyybbbbbbeeeee.
Hey, check your email.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Bbbbut if no one did that, people would just go around saying any damn thing they wanted! You need us over-defensive types to keep everyone in complexes.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

what's the word for when you're in a coma but your eyes are still open and you still move around and stuff? 'cause that's me.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Otto Schiavo

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

What, too soon?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

i laffed.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

well i guess i'll just wait here and loll my tongue until congress decides what to do with me.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

hey nick, i can bring the embarrassment anthology when i come to town in TWO WEEKS!

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Embarrassment anth is great! That's what I have, not the individual releases.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

i dunno laurel, i never listen to it - i feel like im constantly on the verge of selling it back.

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

unfortunately, i missed the window where it went for like $58576947 on amazon and ebay

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

ACK ACK. Don't do that! Why would you, almost everything up through "Death Travels West" is great! I don't know the second disk as well because I have that problem where I usually start at the beginning and then get distracted around the same place but STILL!!

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

Pete, I thought you were coming in early June?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah. fuck. i guess i mean four weeks.

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

holy crap, the blackout is in two and a half weeks!! 16 days to be exact!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

blackout?

SQUARECOATS (plsmith), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

some punk thing

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Jordan, remember how you said you used to say some dumb stuff on ILX when you were in college?

How about this gem from "TS: Aaliyah vs. Beyonce":

Beyonce has better beats.
-- Jordan (jordancohe...), July 29th, 2002 8:00 PM. (link)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

"Say My Name" has some hot shit

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Geez, it's not like he said "Beyonce's boobs are rounder."

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

By the way, Dan, do you know if that art exhibition is still up?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, it will be for approximately 3 weeks.


You want to see the porn, don't you!?! :)

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Of course I do!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

I just won $50 on 2 scratch-offs!

I put $10 back in.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Monday, 8 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

i just found out the spits will be back at sub t in june.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Why is CHILX so quiet these days?

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

I ran out of dick jokes.

Man Man (kenan), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Out of the $10 I won 3 free tickets.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

So let's calculate this round of gambling:

-$3
+50
----
+$47
-$10
-----
+$37
+$3 (in free tix)
-----
+$40 for now.

Of course, that is not taking into account another $10-20 I've lost this year.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

for my part, i'm busy today. and will be for a good deal of the next two weeks.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

One of you needs to have a wild house party sometime soon. Like this weekend. I want like loud music and kegs and whiskey and arguments and laughter and smoke and darkness, not at a bar, at YOUR HOUSE. I'm going to bring all these things to your house. I want friendly strangers, and one asshole stranger that we mock until they leave. I want spilled drinks, AT YOUR HOUSE. I don't want any excuses. I want EVERYONE to show up, to YOUR HOUSE. I know, Jenny can't come because she's studying blah blah. We'll kidnap her. IT IS SUMMER. Where is the PARTY?

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

What about karaoke? I thought that was Sat. Also isn't your birthday on Monday?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

I was actually thinking that I should invite you guys over sometime soon. I don't have enough room for a PARTY but I have enough room for a GATHERING.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

that's what every post-bottle show was like at my place from october until february. i don't have afterparties at my new place.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

God yeah, NIck. Sometimes you need to fuck shit up/watch shit getting fucked up/make fun of shit etc. And then make out. The best possible night!

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

My birthday is Monday. Jesse's birthday is Friday?

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

That reminds me of the Fulton & Fuller house in Grand Rapids, when I was in college. Friends lived there, in a huge old house mostly empty of furniture. Cops were always turning up on party nights when too many people showed themselves outside.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Wait until my housemate goes to Germany for the World Cup next month. Then I will have a party.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

your housemate isn't named tomas is he?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

Daft Punk is playing at your house. At YOUR HOUSE.

Man Man (kenan), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

My birthday is Friday.

I could have a gathering at my house, but dont' know enough people to have really do it right. And I have not fully Scotchgarded the new couch.

But we will have a Movie Night sometime soon.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

your housemate isn't named tomas is he?

No, but a close friend of mine here is! Wild.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Also, shouldn't that be more like "AT YOUR HOUSE-UH?"

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to miss any partying this weekend 'cause I CAN TAKE PAID VACATION NOW and I'm going to! This weekend...

Seriously, though, I'm going to have something at my house while that fucker is out of the country.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Jordan, remember how you said you used to say some dumb stuff on ILX when you were in college?
How about this gem from "TS: Aaliyah vs. Beyonce":

Beyonce has better beats.
-- Jordan (jordancohe...), July 29th, 2002 8:00 PM. (link)

Maybe I did mean breasts?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I survived the PUFFS and the DROPS and I ordered new frames + lenses. I'm excited, and now I won't have to think about my eyes for another year.

What's the opposite of dilate? 'Cause that's what I'm going to do now.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

contract. you're going to contract your pupils? what are you going to do? heroin?

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Monday, 8 May 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

hi chicago. puma & fader magazine party on the 15th. the whigs & sam prekop playing. free w/ rsvp to g3nflive@thefader.com (replace 3 with e.....) at subterranean. free heineken all nite.

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 8 May 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

I'd totally go to that if I didn't have band practice on Mondays.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to use the power of chillin'.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 May 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'd totally go to that except we're playing at Schuba's. Oh no, I wouldn't, because I'm totally lazy about going out on Monday nights.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 May 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I'd totally go to the Schubas show if I didn't have band practice.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 May 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

i'd totally go to both if i weren't not in Chicago at the time.

phil-two (phil-two), Monday, 8 May 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

MOTHERFUCKERS DO NOT HAVE ANY MORE FUN THIS WEEKEND GODDAMMIT. Is it not enough that people will be singing karaoke and going to baseball games when I will be TOTALLY DONE ON MONDAY???? WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeee............????????????

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 May 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

hey that's right, i've got cubs tickets for saturday! good seats too!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

It's OK Jenny.

I'm a little concerned about my birthday.... I sense that there will be lack of celebration of my birth.... TELL ME THAT I'M JUST BEING PARANOID!

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Monday, 8 May 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

Really, Otto? We'll be there, too -- John, Kr., Jeff, and I.

Jenny, I'm sooo sorrry. That's sooo sucks.

Man Man (kenan), Monday, 8 May 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i'll be there. behind home plate, section dugb19, row c, seats 107 & 108. where you guys gonna be?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 8 May 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

IS SOMEONE DOING SOMETHING WITH (to?) ME FRIDAY?????????????????????

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Monday, 8 May 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

Just you wait.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

KIDS COME AND GET IT.


XXXP

if you guys start having sexy parties, i don't want to hear about it. tho, if you're looking for a place to do it: SHARX HOUSE. PARTYZONE, BIGTIME.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

Are you still in MN? When do you get to Great Falls? Will you take pictures?

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 02:20 (nineteen years ago)

I've got a hobby. It's a collection--in my Gmail

Spam (486)

That's less than a week. Is there a limit? I'd like to collect a whole gig.

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

I get a few hundred spam messages a day. Rah.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

I am in a VERY ANGRY mood today, unexpectedly, after my useless Roman History class this morning.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

HEY

HEY, JENNY IN PARTICULAR!

DIAMANDA GALAS and AILEEN WOURNOS: two great tastes that taste great together!

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 02:37 (nineteen years ago)

wUOrnos, that is

Whispy Fandango Triphop (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 02:39 (nineteen years ago)

where you guys gonna be?

Sec. 223, seats 109-112.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 03:13 (nineteen years ago)

See the back of your head there!

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

So. It was a good day. Good day at work, good bike ride to pick up some good pillowcases, good ride to the movies, good movie, good ride home, good shower.

Goodnight.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

where did you get the pillowcases? which good movie?

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

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Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

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jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

The pillowcases are not for me. And I finally saw Inside Man, because... ahem... some people refused to see it with me.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

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Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:19 (nineteen years ago)

I used to be really assiduous about cleaning out my spam folder after every 100-200 e-mails, but then I figured what's the point.

Oh, I wanted to see Inside Man! I couldn't have gone tonight, though.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:19 (nineteen years ago)

And that's after years of having this account. Moral is: you have to be crafty.

I have never cleaned out my spam!

John -- yeah, it's good. Jodi Foster is great in it. Everyone is great in it.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:20 (nineteen years ago)

Not to be all Dave, but this new Final Fantasy album is really good. It's like Destroyer meets Rachel's or something.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:22 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, John.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:22 (nineteen years ago)

YSI on CHILXBLG?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

I never want to see another Spike Lee MOVIE (and will never stoop to 'joint') after 25th Hour. I might try some of his prior efforts, but really, in light of the recent bans of foie gras sales in Chicago, his films should be banned in Chicago; this goose has no interest in being force-spoon-fed trite moral dictums. My liver has enough to contend with already.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:30 (nineteen years ago)

25th Hour was my favorite film of 2002, and I wouldn't necessarily call myself a huge Spike Lee fan or anything. It's all about the relationships.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:31 (nineteen years ago)

John.

You were a fan of Crash, weren't you?

(not cronenberg)

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)


25th Hour was Ho. Rib. El.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:33 (nineteen years ago)

Good God, no. 25th Hour is so much better than Crash.

YSI on CHILXBLG?

Sure.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:33 (nineteen years ago)

It's too late for me to argue why I loved 25th Hour -- but there are so many small moments in that film that are captured really perfectly. Like when Philip Seymour Hoffman meets Barry Pepper at his apartment and the way they try to interact as friends, even though they haven't kept in touch for years and it's clear they were only really friends inasmuch as both were friends with Ed Norton. The dialogue and acting are both superb.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

25th Hour was an excellent movie. Excellent. I think I've seen it three times.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:37 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, John, check your gmail for more ysi goodness.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:37 (nineteen years ago)

I really liked 25th Hour too, though maybe it helped that I thought it was going to be godawful, given the reviews/what I'd heard about it. it's not, like, world-changing, but it was totally well-executed.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:38 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it was a total surprise for me, too. I saw it in New York with my brother on a whim, and I walked out and was like, "Wow, that was kind of ... really, really good."

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

God Oh Monkey.

I can't tell you of the many ways I thought 25th Hour was awful. Except as general moving-pictures-on-a-screen, it was nauseating. Especially the 9/11 references. And ESPECIALLY the DVD's "special feature" that was the excavating of the WTC. *Gag*

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

(Also: I'm glad we didn't scare you off the thread, horseshoe!)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:41 (nineteen years ago)

My backups corroborators (Jenny and Jeff) are in bed, but together we could mount a serious indictment of this crime against film.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:42 (nineteen years ago)

I can see how you thought the 9/11 references were heavy-handed, Jesse -- but I don't think they dominated the film.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:42 (nineteen years ago)

to be fair, part of the reason I loved it so much is that I seriously am in love with Rosario Dawson, who is one of the prettiest people ever. so, so pretty in that movie.

okay, I never saw the special feature on the DVD.

xpost: no, jaymc, you were really nice. not scared!

horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:43 (nineteen years ago)

Especially the 9/11 references.

The 9/11 references were subtle, I thought. It wasn't about OH MY GOD THE HUMANITY, it was about how this guy gets a cut on rent in a really nice apartment because he has to look at Ground Zero all day, but that's fine because... well, because he's the kind of guy who's not especially concerned about the misery of others. To a certain extent, so's the main character, and everyone else in the movie. I don't get what your beef is, Jesse.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:44 (nineteen years ago)

Rosario Dawson is very pretty, yes. :)

I tried to see if I had written anything in my journal after seeing the film, but most of my entry is about the respective screen images of Brian Cox ("jowly not in a tut-tut way but in a patio-grill way") and Philip Seymour Hoffman and not very much about the movie itself.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

I think seeing 25th Hour was kind of a relief, because it's just sort of a simple, satisfying story. I've been burned so many times with latter-half-of-his-career Spike Lee, where so many of his movies' ambitions just get too out of control and ruin them.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:47 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I think a lot of credit goes to the screenwriter in this case.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

like, after maybe Clockers, there's a huge drop-off in quality, and at least 25th Hour showed he hadn't lost his mind.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

Lee didn't write Inside Man, either.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

Belated thought: I think there's a little Andrew Bird in Final Fantasy, too -- that hushed voice against romantic, sometimes plucked violin.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:55 (nineteen years ago)

Subtle? Really? Within a movie otherwise unconcerned with 9/11, gratuitous views of Ground Zero were subtle?

9/11 was not integrated into the rest of the movie, as such a major aspect should have been. My beef is that Spike Lee does not respect his audience enough to make his allegories real allegories. He has to go too far and spell out every last detail.

Spike Lee disprespects his audiences in general by being overt and expository when he could rely on his undergrad education in storytelling and SHOW rather than TELL (TELL WITH A BULLHORN, NO LESS).

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

Well, there is the bit with the father who was a firefighter. It kind of colors everything. Like in Woody Allen movies, New York is a character by itself.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 04:58 (nineteen years ago)

Lemme guess - you hate Woody Allen movies, too.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

No. I generally love Woody Allen.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, well then I guess we're still friends. :)

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 05:04 (nineteen years ago)

We finally got around to watching Broken Flowers last night b/c of Julia's recommendation and I have to say I enjoyed it quite a bit too (especially the music, made me pull out Ethiopiques 13 to listen to on my commute this morning). Then I was thinking and realized that I have not seen a Jarmusch movie that I did not enjoy. My fave is the one with Tom Waits, Jon Lurie and Roberto Benigni, that one rules but I am incapable of remembering the name for some reason. Stranger Than Paradise, Mystery Train and Ghost Dog are all great too. I did not see Coffee & Cigarettes, though, and I know some people didn't dig that one.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

Using the word "subtle" in the same sentence as 25th Hour (or even "Spike Lee") is like using "slightly aromatic" to describe the scent of urine at the Jarvis red line stop. Sitting through 25th Hour was like having Spike Lee beat me about the head with a 2x4 of symbolism - not just about 9/11 but about everything Spike Lee happened to be thinking about at the time. The scene where everybody spews racial slurs? Jesus. Watching Spike Lee movies is like a giant spoonful of natural peanut with cotton mouth and nothing to drink.

Woody Allen is a tiresome, narcissistic misogynist who makes occasionally amusing but largely tiresome, narcissistic misogynistic films.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

EATING a giant spoonful of natural peanut butter.

I really want to see The Proposition, though. I'm re-reading Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy (which is a fantastic book and I even think Nick Fiction would like it) as I've heard they are in a similar vein, to gear myself up for it. I'm a little nervous about how violent it's supposed to be, but I want to see it anyway because I love westerns. Also, Nick Cave is pretty okay, too.

Nick, that Jarmusch movie is Night on Earth. I really liked that one, too, but I think Roberto Benigni is just precious. I loved Ghost Dog, but I really didn't like Stranger than Paradise, although now so many years later I can't really remember why.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa, that seems a little harsh on good ol' Spike there. But that may be because I just watched Do The Right Thing again last night, being fully reminded of how powerful the man could be. It's been a long time since I saw 25th Hour though, so you may be right.

jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

I remember liking 25th Hour, and also thinking that it's the least "Spike Lee"-ish of his movies. It's been awhile, though.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

My fave is the one with Tom Waits, Jon Lurie and Roberto Benigni, that one rules but I am incapable of remembering the name for some reason.

down by law. i was so entranced by the idea of a film with tom waits and roberto benigni, and couldn't quite imagine it til i saw it (i just saw it a few years ago).

there was a special feature on broken flowers about the music, and i really wish i had watched it, but i was exhausted and need to get movies back quickly so i can cancel my netflix subscription (my roommate's getting one that we'll share).

Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

ok chicago, find me a new job.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

I saw the Proposition this winter: pretty good! Grim as fuck, though. Very McCarthy.


25th hour is a terrible movie.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

The scene where everybody spews racial slurs? Jesus.

That's in the original book, oddly enough.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

I've been meaning to see Down By Law for years, but I've never seen it in a store (rental or otherwise).

Summer of Sam & Inside Man >>> 25th Hour (as far as recent Spike goes)

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

And it's just one guy spewing racial slurs. The one where everybody spews racial slurs is every other Spike Lee movie.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

I had no idea we'd be so divided about Spike Lee.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

Is anyone coming to our Schubashow? Jenny, you'll be ready to party, right?

Nick and I now own a fancy little tray with 4 glasses, a pitcher, and an ice bucket. My boss likes to throw things away because he hates clutter. He told me to throw this away because it was taking up space in our conference room (!). It's by West Elm. Right now they're just all sitting on the kitchen table to fancy the place up a bit. ha ha

Otto, I forgot what it is you do now.

Jordan, I think you'd really enjoy Down by Law.

I loved the music in Broken Flowers, but I wanted answers.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

Spike was down in New Orleans filming second-line footage a few months ago. I wonder if he's going to do anything with it.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

I enjoyed 25th Hour about as much as I enjoyed 8 Mile, which is to say that during the time I was in the theater, I enjoyed it quite a bit. Then I completely forgot about it. That's enough for me, most of the time. Also, PSH! LOVE HIM. He should be in every movie ever. He's already well on his way.

PS -- Sign me up for the New Job Train leaving at June o'clock.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

oooo new job! tell us about it!

Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

Uh oh, that's not what I meant. I just meant that I want a ticket for the New Job Train that leaves at June o'clock. I don't have a ticket yet. :(

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

Workin' on it though!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Shamelessly, I might add.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Cover yourself!

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

aw, shit. i misread.

also, if anyone wanted to YSI broken flowersy music (nick?) i wouldn't mind at all. :D

Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

I hear that's a very popular route.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

Don't worry. I'm not flashin' it around or anything. Just quietly going about my business.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, quick, make some vodka lemonade to go in that pitcher!! Also, that is TOTALLY the way to get yr conference room neater -- any chance the Herman-Miller chairs are taking up too much space and getting in everyone's way?

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

is june o'clock anything like juneteenth?
apparently at some point i got demoted and never noticed. now i'm being given shit assignments in hopes that i'll quit. i should have seen this coming.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

I would like to add that a large number of the Ethiopiques series are available on emusic.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

Appropos of nothing, the optometrist answered a question I've had for awhile: if you're near-sighted and wear glasses, it's not bad for your eyes to wear your glasses while doing close-up stuff (like sitting at a computer all day).

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

Good to know, good to know.

But otto, are you still being paid the same?

I appreciated Ethiopiques before, but now I just want it to be playing in our apartment every day when I get home.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

I think we should turn our extra bedroom (a.k.a. the Guitar Room) into the conference room at home. Nick and I could go in there to have financial meetings and relationship talks.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

Do you know what's annoying? When you're gmail chatting someone and they suddenly go offline. Then they come back online soon afterwards but never email/chat back again. You know, like nothing happened. I imagined we were chatting. Grrr.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

I am gagging for Netflix to send me more Battlestar Galactica but so far the USPS isn't obliging. Maybe someone held up the stagecoach on the way to wherever they keep those things? CALL THE CAVALRY.

Sarah, yeah, and maybe you can require each other to dress in business suits to enter the Conference Room? Shirts with extra starch.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

Nick and I could go in there to have financial meetings and relationship talks.

This is a great idea. That's what my own relationship needs more of, professionalism.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

And power point presentations... Do people still do those?

Also, it would be fun when we gave little mini-apartment tours to first time visitors. We'd keep the conference room door shut, so we could just open it a crack and say in a hushed tone, Now, that's the Conference Room. ALSO, we'd have to put a phone on the table for conference calls.

I think ending a chat like that on gmail is the equivalent of just walking away from someone while they're talking to you at a party. Amirite?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, it sounds like some of my coworkers might come to the Monday show.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

And power point presentations... Do people still do those?

Oh, you bet they do. And they still look like PowerPoint presentations.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

Down by Law, not Night on Earth! I = dumb.

I liked Summer of Sam a lot, FWIW. I also lked Macolm X and I remember liking Do the Right Thing, although it's been a bazillion years since I've seen it. She's Gotta Have It was not my favorite for its characterization and treatment of women. So I don't totally hate Spike Lee (I like him tons more than I like Woody Allen). I just found 25th Hour to be dreadful and very representative of what I dislike about his movies (even the ones that I liked are pretty heavy handed).

Otto, that's crappy. I'm sorry!

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

Oh! Recommend me more summertime drinks avec alcohol for my fancy pitcher!

Hi, Jenny.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

Jim Beam. Just... Jim Beam.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, no.

Otto, why do you keep making donuts?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

No, I'm kidding. Don't drink bourbon and smoke unfiltered cigarettes, kids. Take it from someone who did both. I tell you, it ruined my morning.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, Sarah!

How about... mojitos!!! There's a new restaurant on Clark St. called Ole Ole and they have very tasty mojitos. And now I think I should drink them a lot.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah - Pimms Cup.

Sarah - I want to see the Fixxiones next Monday.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

I like bevvies with lime and rum, so I would say limeade with rum. Maybe even rum and vodka. Or limeade with vodka. Or limeade with mango nectar, rum and vodka.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Also: Gin ricky.

I think an excellent summer drink formula is: liquor, citrus or mint or sugar or some combination, soda, and ice.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm... vodka, mango nector, lime, soda, ice.

Yes. I think that works.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

That probably covers a lot of drinks. See: mint julep.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

All of those sound perfect, but especially limeade with rum.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

Best lemonade ever: put bottle of vodka in freezer the day before. Squeeze lemons (you're going to need a BUNCH). Make simple syrup with sugar and water and add stalks of thyme to it, leaving the twigs in until the syrup cools, then fishing 'em out and discarding. Use the syrup to sweeteen the lemon juice to taste and dump in the chilled vodka (and notice how incredibly silkily it pours after a night in the freezer). Pour into glasses over ice formation of yr choice (cube/crushed) and a stalk of thyme for that little sumthin' extra.

Get wasted classy-like.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

Rum, pinapple juice, lime, soda, ice.

I like the soda additional because it cuts the gooey sweetness and makes it refreshing. But I think Laurel's lemonade sounds good as is.

When is the Schuba's show? Next Monday? BECAUSE I CAN TOTALLY GO!!!

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

OMG, mojitos.

I've probably told this before, but on one of our last nights in Switzerland the band ordered mojitos at the restaurant that fed us every night. It was taking a really long time and we started making comments, until one dude went outside for a smoke and saw the waitress PICKING THE MINT from the garden out front! Best mojitos ever.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Long Island Iced Tea, anyone?

1 part vodka
1 part tequila
1 part rum
1 part gin
1 part triple sec
1 1/2 parts sweet and sour mix
1 splash Coca-Cola®

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

sarah: yes, pay is same, they can't cut that without cause. they also can't terminate me without cause. but they can make me miserable and set me up to fail. hence the donut making today. are you guys playing monday the 15th? if so i won't be there as h34d4che c1ty are playing a free show at the bottle with another friends band. and mondays at the bottle are $1.25 pbr nights.

i forgot how much i dislike mint juleps until saturday. way too sweet.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

I think an excellent summer drink formula is: liquor, citrus or mint or sugar or some combination, soda, and ice.

Pimms Cup fits the bill - get a bottle of it, add Sprite, and cucumber, add ice, tasty treat.

A slice of cucumber is so refreshing in a drink, water even.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

Oh no. No no nononono. I ordered sake once and it came with strips of cuke floating in it and somehow that extra vegetable flavor made it completely undrinkable. Like, I couldn't sip without gagging.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, my grandmother used to make donuts at home for us. Also, I don't think I like mint juleps either. Also, I can understand going to a free show.

Yeah, Jenny, this coming Monday the 15th. I feel like it's the most important show we've ever played, but then again I often think that (see: this past weekend). Anyway, I plan to wear a new dress.

You guys should put some of these drink recipes on the Recipes & Songs page so I won't have to search for them later.

I should invest in a cucumber because I have puffy eyes. Does that actually work?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry, EZ, it's just that I was really looking forward to that sake so I was grossed-out AND disappointed, hence the vehemence of my disagreement.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like it's the most important show we've ever played,

Will the cd be out?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, Laurel, it's OK, more cuke for me.

(Hey, Laurel, I'm probably playing a show in NYC in mid-June - are you around?)

Have you-all been to Orange, the breakfast place in Lakeview and the South Loop? So good. And they put that slice of cuke in the water there.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah - tea bags! Soak tea bags in cold water, wring them out, and lay down with them over your eyes. That will take care of puffy eyes. And make your face smell like tea.

On the first day that Jesse and I worked together waiting tables, a table of middle-aged, middle class tennis playing women in little matching skirts and everything sent back their water with lemon and asked for water with cucumber in it. Oy. I think it would be lovely, but it was just really annoying to have these high maintenance women begin our server/diner relationship with such an irritatingly high-maintenance request.

EZ, can you mix this Pimms stuff with club soda? (I have an aversion to sweet soda.) Compiling summer drink recipes on the blog is a good idea!

Okay, Sarah, I will go to your Monday night show! I took next Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday off so I could have a little break between school and working so that is perfect timing AND I need to be more supportive of my friends and their bands!

One more thing - I'm glad that someone up thread said that they'd never heard of the bands Kevin goes to see. Because I haven't either and I just chalked it up to being in school and out of touch. I'm comforted that I'm not such a fuddy duddy after all, at least compared to ChiLX at large.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Orange! Jeff, Jesse, my friend Mark, and I went to Orange one morning. It was very good but we were very hung over and wanted large plates of potatoes and eggs and breakfast meat very quickly and instead we got orange flavored coffee and "frushi" and small, artful plates of breakfast and you know how when you're hung over you don't want dainty, you want GREASY and you want it fast? Well, Orange has kind of accidentally become associated with people being fussy when I am feeling very base.

I'd like to go back when I'm not hung over and have the orange coffee again, though. I remember that it was good.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

I'll be here in mid-June, not leaving until the 28th or so. But June's getting busy fast so make with the date, dude.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Pooh.

It's going to be one of those days where I take a cab to work.

Jenny OTM with regard to Spike Lee.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, let it die already.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

OK, L., I hope I'll know soon soon. May be at Pete's Candy St0re around the 11th-12th-13th.

I'm not sure about the club soda in place of Sprite, Jenny - I think it could work, maybe with a little more fruit added or something - but the Pimms Cup itself isn't sweet, so the Sprite (or ginger ale) seems like an important part. Oh, maybe put some ginger in there, that could work!

I had a similar experience the first time at Orange - a friend from college was in town for the underground film fest, I hadn't seen him in years, very indie guy, I took a sick day from work to hang out with him, and thought "now, where can I go on weekends that's too crazy to get into on weekends" and had wanted to try Orange for so long -- and he was so ready for diner food and the initial offer of frushi did not help.

But I've been back to the one in the south loop (so relaxed and spacious) a few times and love it. Green Eggs and Ham = scrambled eggs, pesto, ham.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

if it's any consolation i don't know any of the bands you guys talk about either. a lot of indie rock strikes me as boring, flaccid tripe that fails to elicit any emotion from me. or worse yet are the bands that are overly pleased with themselves. nothing worse than a sense of self-satisfaction coming from the stage. too much artifice, not enough art.

i'd much rather see a band that is technically deficient if they have heart and are putting forth a genuine effort.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

i've got a question for you guys: do you only go see bands you know and/or have heard?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

"where can I go on weekdays that's packed on weekends" - I meant to say. I love impossible-on-the-weekend breakfast places on weekday mornings.

There are so many different music scenes in this town. I'm glad Otto got me interested in the Hot Machines before they played - such a great show.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

When you're gmail chatting someone and they suddenly go offline. Then they come back online soon afterwards but never email/chat back again. You know, like nothing happened. I imagined we were chatting. Grrr.

I don't believe we've ever chatted on Gmail before, Sarah, but I've noticed that this happens with more regularity on Gmail than on other instant-message services I've used -- and I'm just as guilty as others of it. I think it's partially because I log on to check my e-mail and then maybe someone says hi to me via chat, and we talk for a little bit, and then there's a long pause, and I just figure we're not really talking anymore, so I don't feel too bad about just leaving. It seems forced to have to say goodbye after every small conversation. I guess I do sometimes say, "okay well back to work!"

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Not exclusively, but mostly. I do like a good opener that comes from out of nowhere to if not steal, then greatly enhance the show.

xpost: Gmail chat is hard because it's contained within Gmail. Always going back to that window sucks, and their "alerts" are lousy.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

And as soon as you close the gmail window, you close the chat, which is easy to forget. And then when you come back it's like, oh, whatever. It's not meant as an insult. I like that social dynamic of chat, actually. Talk to me, don't talk to me... I won't be hurt!

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm... I wonder if it would be too gross to just fish the tea bags out of our huge tea pitcher and put them on my eyes? Ok, well, don't tell anyone.

Jordan, our cds are shipping Thursday. The label guys are calling to try to put a rush on it, so we don't know yet if we'll have them in time.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Re shows: In the city? Yeah, sort of sadly. When I lived in Jersey City down the street from Uncle Joe's and I was dating a rockstar and knew lots of people, I used to go see random stuff and did actually get sucked in to a couple of great things, particularly Shellshag and Oxford Collapse and...I know I'm forgetting some more. But now I live far away from any venue and have to make a production to get to a show, so I don't do it, really.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'll be here in mid-June, not leaving until the 28th or so. But June's getting busy fast so make with the date, dude.

Where are you going? Did I miss something?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

To MI for little sister's wedding. D'OH.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

That's awesome, Sarah. Come play in Madison (w/the 0ptimistic!) so I can get one.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

a lot of indie rock strikes me as boring, flaccid tripe that fails to elicit any emotion from me.

Wait, but I thought those were the kinds of bands you went to see...?

i've got a question for you guys: do you only go see bands you know and/or have heard?

Pretty much. I certainly don't go to as many shows as I used to, so I'm discriminating about the ones I do see. But the other thing is that music is a lot more interesting for me when there's discourse around it, so I tend not to get as excited about total no-name acts.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

No, Otto goes to see the down n' dirty rock n' roll!

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I just realized that both bands I mentioned above actually hooked me in with covers -- so even though I was probably out on the patio smoking and ignoring the band, I was reeled in and made to listen more closely and then couldn't stay away. SShag covered Joy Div's "Leaders of Men" and Ox Collapse did "Celebrity Art Party" by the Embarrassment. Does that meant I'm easy?

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) Same thing, though, right? I mean, isn't any band that plays Subterranean or Beat Kitchen going to be an indie-rock band by default? Or you know, punk or garage or whatever.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, but I thought those were the kinds of bands you went to see...?

they're indie rock in as much as the label's they're on, if any, obviously aren't part of the columbiasonywarnervirgin collosus. but you certainly aren't going to confuse, say, the hunches or live fast die with the decemberists or fiery furnaces or what have you.

it's been more than a decade since lou barlow howled "JUST GIMME INDIE ROCK". i think the term has taken on a more specific meaning in the intervening 13 years.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

But...okay, maybe I haven't thought this through but I wouldn't call punk or garage or whatever synonomous with "indie rock". (XP) Thank you.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

But the other thing is that music is a lot more interesting for me when there's discourse around it, so I tend not to get as excited about total no-name acts.

That's sad, J., since so much discourse starts with publicists.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get to a LOT of shows because I am overcommitted and also I live in the Yukon territory, but mostly I go see acts I haven't heard 1) at places I like and 2) because they were recommended, even if I don't know what they sound like. I went to see Josephine Foster after hearing 2 30-second clips and then while I was there I heard Traveling Bell (Kathleen something?) too and liked her. So that was a fruitful experiment. It led to the purchasing of CDs.

Other times I go see shows because I already like the music and want to know what else I'm missing.

Back in my NC days I went to shows all the time, no idea what the band sounded like, but the pool was smaller, I lived a few blocks away, I wrote for the weekly there and I was 22-26, so...that explains a lot.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

I love down n'dirty rock n roll. I also love "discovering" new bands. I don't do it as much as I used to though. When we first moved to Chicago, we would hit up the empty bottle for shows and not know any of the bands playing. These days, we usually know of at least one of the bands.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

No, Otto goes to see the down n' dirty rock n' roll!

best show i've seen in a month was gris gris and i'd be hard pressed to call them "down n' dirty". if anything they were probably the most indie rock band i've seen in a while.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

but you certainly aren't going to confuse, say, the hunches or live fast die with the decemberists or fiery furnaces or what have you.

Right, because I've actually heard of the Decemberists and the Fiery Furnaces.

Seriously, though, I totally get what you're saying -- it just seems funny to me to object to indie rock and then turn around and listen to punk and garage. But maybe only because my objections to indie rock stem from the fact that it's too ROCK -- i.e., too beholden to white guys with guitars and three-chord songs -- so punk and garage seems like an even worse proposition to me.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

The last two bands that I had never heard before that made an impression on me were Swearing @ Motorists (when they played with C@n@st@) and Parts & Labor, who opened for Wilderness. I'm not adverse to going to a show with bands I've never heard/heard of, but it makes it a whole lot easier to justify plunking down $8-$10-$15 or whatever when there is some familiarity there.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

That's sad, J., since so much discourse starts with publicists.

Be that as it may. I feel like this explains things further.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I miss having access to a college radio station that got hundreds of CDs a week to use to find new music. Fuck the internet.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

no, i don't object to it at all. but i've seen too many bands that are all of the same basic genre (which, for better of worse, i'm calling indie rock) that failed to move me on any level. if you don't want to call it indie rock that's fine we can call it whatever you want, it's not the definition that's the point.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

When we first moved to Chicago, we would hit up the empty bottle for shows and not know any of the bands playing. These days, we usually know of at least one of the bands.

do you guys still do this? i mean, go to the bottle even if you don't know who's playing?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

but i've seen too many bands that are all of the same basic genre (which, for better of worse, i'm calling indie rock) that failed to move me on any level.
this is what keeps me from wasting my time going to shows that i'm not sure about, in a nutshell. i don't want to pay $10 to be politely bored. it's also why i don't see a lot of movies. i don't have the time or the money to be politely bored for 2 hours.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not saying that I'm against it, just that I don't have the time to invest in figuring out what to see and not see with the limited funds and time that I have currently.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

You guys are arguing the same point, I think. The only difference is J seems to like lush, melodic indie music and O seems to like grimy, punch-you-in-the-gut indie music.

Underneath it all, we're really not so different, are we?

http://www.adl.org/images/education/logo_nbc_the_moreyouknow.gif

xpost Amanda so so OTM

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

No, I think we agree: we just seek out our alternatives in different places. (Dan M OTM!)

Your Pazz & Jop albums ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Kelley Polar - Love Songs of the Hanging Gardens - Environ (18)
2. Sufjan Stevens - Illinois - Asthmatic Kitty (16)
3. Out Hud - Let Us Never Speak of It Again - Kranky (13)
4. Bloc Party - Silent Alarm - Vice (13)
5. Isolee - Wearemonster - Playhouse (10)
6. Stars - Set Yourself on Fire - Arts and Crafts (10)
7. Vitalic - OK Cowboy - PIAS (5)
8. M.I.A. - Arular - XL/Beggars (5)
9. Superpitcher - Today - Kompakt (5)
10. Robyn - Robyn - Konichiwa (5)


Your Pazz & Jop singles ballot was submitted as follows:

1. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone - RCA
2. Robyn - Be Mine! - Konichiwa
3. Snoop Dogg ft. Justin Timberlake - Signs - Geffen
4. Lindsay Lohan - First - Universal
5. Gwen Stefani - Hollaback Girl - Interscope
6. Broken Social Scene - 7/4 (Shoreline) - Arts and Crafts
7. Amerie - 1 Thing - Columbia
8. The Killers - Mr. Brightside - Island
9. Death From Above 1979 - Black History Month (Alan Braxe & Fred Falke Remix) - Vice
10. The Game ft. 50 Cent - Hate It or Love It - Aftermath

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

I still wish I'd put Feist on there instead of M.I.A.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks for linking to that, J. - I just cringe a little when you say "well I've heard of The Fiery Furnaces and The Decemberists", and much of the reason that you've heard of them has to do with the publicity and advertising their labels provided at their CD release. And it's sad to me because none of us, including 'nasta, would earn any respect from you under this criteria until someone invests a lot of money in us.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

i've got a question for you guys: do you only go see bands you know and/or have heard?

Pretty much. I've got little money and less free time so I tend to want to spend my free nights out drinking and interacting with humans in a non-law school environment. If I see a band, I want to make sure it was worth my time so I tend to play it safe. I would meet up with pals at an unfamiliar band's show, but would probably get grumpy if I didn't like the music and couldn't chat with people.

I haven't always been like that, I probably won't be that way forever, but for now, 'tis true.

xpost: Pretty much exactly what Amanda said!

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

We don't really do that any more, otto. I blame it on us currently being broke broke. That's right - double broke. I think the free Monday nights at the Bottle are an awesome idea, but we tend not to stay out late on Monday nights.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

As long as I keep the right friends, I am perfectly happy to sponge off of their music tastes and not go see live music much. Rock shows are loud, and my ears are really sensitive.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

So Broken Social Scene -- if I love Stars and Metric, will I like BSS?

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

this is what keeps me from wasting my time going to shows that i'm not sure about, in a nutshell. i don't want to pay $10 to be politely bored. it's also why i don't see a lot of movies. i don't have the time or the money to be politely bored for 2 hours.

yeah, that's why i don't see a lot of movies either. it's odd that i'm unwilling to give a film two hours of my time if i'm not sure about it but i have no qualms about going to see a band i know nothing about. i don't know if it's because a band is an dynamic thing where a film is static or what. beer probably factors into it as well.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

All that said, I like BOTH kinds of music: melodic indie and grimy, punch-you-in-the-gut indie. I have been v. intrigued by some of Kevin's show posts, but I can barely justify walking a block for a beer at Simon's, much less taking an entire night away from the books.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT I AM NOT HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

We don't really do that any more, otto.

whenever i'm bored and don't feel like sitting around my house i'll still go over just to see who's playing. sometimes it works out ok, sometimes it doesn't. like the time i walked into metal night for example.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

So Broken Social Scene -- if I love Stars and Metric, will I like BSS?

Quite possible. I'd go for You Forgot It in People as an introduction to the band, and then the self-titled album if you like that. The first album, Feel Good Lost, is mostly instrumental and largely skippable.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Two more salient points:

(1)I don't smoke and I don't really drink that much, I'm not trying to pick up any dudes and I'm not really all that prone to talking to strangers, so if I paid $10 to sit around bored at a show that turned out to suck, I would be mad at myself.

(2) That said, I DO buy CDs/records that I've never heard all the time, especially if they're a movie score, a field recording, from another country or look like they would be especially groovy. More likely than if I've heard the band, sometimes.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

(J., I also constantly enjoy reading what you write about music and hearing new stuff first from you, and you're my dear friend too.)

Interesting to ompare music with movies, theater, etc. I'm sure there are great movies at Facets, the Siskel, etc., but I have to decide if I want to devote so much time/energy/money to choose to see them and 'feel bad' about missing them - instead of seeing something very good at the Century that was publicized more and had proper distribution.

Again, Sheriff is a better doc than one with better publicity and distribution - I'm glad to have found out about it from you guys.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

(Ugh, sorry to keep qualifying these - Sher-f isn't intrinisically better than something with better publicity and distribution, like The Fog of War - but there are worse docs with better publicity/distribution)

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

And it's sad to me because none of us, including 'nasta, would earn any respect from you under this criteria until someone invests a lot of money in us.

You're lucky I know you then! I guess it is sad, but I don't really have a whole lot of interest in the local scene, despite knowing some quite good local bands -- who are either friends of mine or who we've played with or whatever. This is maybe another one of those things that strikes at the heart of my conflict about being an artist vs. being a critic.

(xpost Aw thanks, EZ.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

xp to ez :) but sort of :( on account of the publicity thing.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe we'll drop in on fun looking random shows this summer. It's weird, but sometimes I feel like we have to force ourselves to go out to shows, even though we know we'll probably have a lot of fun. I am LAZY.

As someone who had a college radio show for almost 6 years and used to play in a punk band, I totally appreciate sloppy, dirty Ramonesy rock. I believe that anyone can play guitar. I believe in DIY culture. However, in the end, I think it really does just come down to whether or not you like that particular band (their stage presence, their sound, how much fun you're having at the time...).

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oh hell yeah. I enjoy a lot of shows by bands whose albums I wouldn't buy, particularly shouty oi-oi-oi ones. My threshold for a fun in-person experience is sort of low and depends largely on the rest of the audience.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

there are a lot of great things at facets.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'm realizing, though, that I will sometimes go check out something without much publicity if it sounds like it's really catered to my particular tastes. This goes for both film and music. It doesn't happen all that often.

But tell me when Jeff Parker and Josh Abrams are playing again...

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

I just saw Jeff Parker at Schuba's with KV. It was great.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

During my time at MSU, I went to Detroit nearly every other weekend. I knew some people that had an anarchist collective show space place. They had lots and lots of bands come through, and those shows were great, because no matter who was playing, they were always fun, open, crazy times. I saw jocky straightedge bands there, stoned-out metal, skinny political Britishes, and all manner of regular old punk bands. That environment was great, and I miss it. Now I feel like I'm too old and corporate (I'm wearing a polo shirt forgodssake) to go to places like that. Also, I don't know where they are. This story really doesn't have a point beyond reminiscing...

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

, I totally appreciate sloppy, dirty Ramonesy rock.

not at all sloppy but the tuesday before the blackout (the 23rd) mind controls are playing at cals. cococoma/demons claws/mind controls. cals may explode. guaranteed good time.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

I believe that anyone can play guitar.

And I am about to PROVE it! Amanda has hit on an important point with the smoking thing - I struggle with smokey bars (see my early exit from SHARKS show) and really do weigh the discomfort and aftermath of inhaling smoke all night with the potential enjoyment I'll get out of seeing a band.

I think I'm the same way about movies, but I have a much lower threshhold for movies since I'll be sitting down in a smoke-free environment eating popcorn so the potential for general discomfort is much lower. Also when a movie is over, you can go get a drink with your friends and talk about it!

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I mean, I want to see Vandermark, too, just because I've heard so much about how he's great. But I already know I like Parker and Abrams, from records they've appeared on, even though I haven't seen them in a live, strictly-jazz setting.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Dan M., did you ever see the band CORNISH IN A TURTLENECK -- buncha kids from Ypsilanti making weird lo-fi pop music?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Nope, but I did see them on a flyer for a show in Lansing once! What a weird name.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Now I feel like I'm too old and corporate (I'm wearing a polo shirt forgodssake) to go to places like that.

That's why I don't go to the ice factory. :( I am not wearing a polo shirt but I just feel like I'd stick out like somebody brought their mom with them to show her how the kids rock out these days.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

What a weird name.

Heh. They were pretty good. I saw them at a basement show in Ann Arbor in '99.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Dan's memories remind me why good nights at the Ice Factory are great (the show with the FF's, the Nueva Cats, and whoever was one of my favorite nights out last year) and what was special about the Casey D. show at my place a few weeks back, or a secret show at the Hideout even - something about the feel of community gives it a sense of occasion.

xpost - but Jenny, you'd be welcome there!

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

I am not wearing a polo shirt but I just feel like I'd stick out like somebody brought their mom with them to show her how the kids rock out these days.

trust me you won't be the oldest person there. when i was there for the moto/effigies show there was this guy that we couldn't figure out if he was a narc, somebodies dad, or just a dude for the show. had to be 52 or 53 at least. suit pants, dress shirt, briefcase, looked like he was on his way home from work. turns out the dude REALLY liked the effigies.

that didn't stop me and my friend mike from creating an entire backstory for him before we figured it out though.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

You just need some Bettie Page number and for the underground shows, Jenny.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Well, if I can bring a briefcase, then okay.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Eric, I'm not entirely sure that that sentence means...

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

That was my garbled way of saying you need some Bettie Page outfit for the underground shows.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

i was out with this girl saturday who had bangs like bettie page. surprsingly attractive.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, where might I find a schedule for the blackout shows? That's the name of a festival of sorts, right?

Cal's seems to have a lot of potential and I hear about fun sounding shows there, but both times we've played there it wasn't full enough to fully appreciate. On the other hand, the sound there is crappy. I guess I just like small spaces.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Only if it also involves a brief case.

(xpost)

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Cal's on Wells? Because that's right downstairs from me RIGHT NOW.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

the sound at cal's blows. but it's since it's the size of someone's dining room it's always fun. official blackout shows are all at the bottle. friday and saturday tickets are gone. wednesday and thursday remain. check the bottle site for shows 5/24-5/27. there are also day shows at the mutiny on thursday & friday as well as a day show saturday at ice factory. then saturday morning (early, 10 am) is the brian costello show at the bottle. that's free. m.o.t.o. is playing and maybe mangina (new orleans metal band). the shows at mutiny/ice factory are booked by darius hurley, the guy who runs criminal iq records. they are dubbed the "whiteout". let me see if i can find the lineup for those...

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

yep, wells and van buren i believe. 400 s. wells, i know.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

They have Champagne for sale at Cal's, in case you or someone you love has just gotten out of the pokey.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

I'm even closer than Jenny is.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

A 10am show on a Saturday? 10 A? M?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

MAYBE

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Are you sitting in the bar, Manda?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

this is what i have from darius:

Full and final line-up for this years Whiteout

Thursday 25th @ Mutiny 2428 N western 5PM - 8PM (FREE show - but bring a donation for the bands) 21+
NOTE!! THESE SHOWS START AT 6PM SHARP - BAR OPENS AT 5PM
The FEELERS
The CRETEENS
PEDESTRIANS
RAT TRAPS

Friday May 26th @ Mutiny 2428 N western 5PM - 9PM (FREE show - but bring a donation for the bands) 6PM SHARP 21 +
CATHOLIC BOYS (The last show ever ever)
CARBONAS (ATL)
FRANTIC ATTAQUE (ATL)
TERRIBLE TWOS (MI)

Sat May 27th @ Ice factory 526 N ashland 2PM- 8PM ($7) All ages
THE BLACK TIME (UK)
FUNCTIONAL BLACKOUTS (Chi)
FORMELDEHYDE JUNKIES (MNPLS)
KILL THE HIPPIES (OH)
HOLY SHIT (MKE)
THE WORST (CHI)
these shows will probably be kinda loose - last year we drew straws to seer who played when - probably be the same again this year.

cool.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

(that was an obfuscatory xp to myself and those stalking me)

Nah, I'm just across the street.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

That reminds me of WE Fest in NC -- like 400 bands no one has ever heard, but fun festival times, lotsa friendly strangers, etc.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

yes, 10 a.m. the bcs show usually goes about 90 minutes or so, maybe longer if they have two musical guests, and he needs to get to the ice factory to drum for the functional blackouts.

i really want to see kill the hippies.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I just checked out the EB site.
Dead Moon!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

i really want to see kill the hippies.

Is that just for the name? 'Cause that's why I'd want to see them.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

and this is what i got from matt who booked the blackout:
YO,
Here's the line-up.....I think.......pretty fuckin' shure.

Wed. May 24th
KING KHAN & BBQ SHOW
MARKED MEN
CUTS
JENNY JEANS
GALACTIC INMATE

Thurs. May 25th
CHEATER SLICKS
CLONE DEFECTS
TIME FLYS
ANGRY ANGLES
MANDY & THE TWINS

Fri. May 26th
DEAD MOON
MIRRORS
MULLENS
MIND CONTROLS
DUTCH MASTERS
KRUNCHIES

Sat. May 27th
OBLIVIANS W/ QUINTRON!
PERSUADERS
FLAKES
DEMONS CLAWS
LIVEFASTDIE
COCOCOMA

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I rarely go to shows for bands I don't know, unless it's just the opening act. My life is research and that carries over into every aspect of it. I'm on the internet reading all the time, I download albums, and I look for connections between new bands and my current favorites.

I really want to go to more shows, and go to ones that aren't at the major venues. One of the best shows I went to was to see Birchville Cat Motel at 3030/EAF. I can't wait till the wire fest in september, assuming that the empty bottle has it. I see so many good performances there, many of which I don't know.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Is that just for the name?

no, they're from kent, ohio and are awesome. they've been putting out awesome records since i was in high school but they rarely tour. i can't wait. they are my myspace music as well.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

NE OH REPRAZENT

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

I was gonna post that sooner, but I was busy telling people to STOP STARING AT MY COMPUTER as they walk past my desk.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

looking at what matt sent me (which was back in march) i realize that the flakes cancelled and have been replaced by boston's own tampoffs.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

TAMPOFFS!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

I also need to start reading the Chicago Improv mailing list more, I always read it after the fact and miss out on great shows.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

My mother is in-fucking-sane. Today is my 1 year anniversary at this job, and she sent me a cake.

On that note, people-who-are-looking-for-jobs, these positions are currently open here:


Editorial Asst, Contracts and Subsidiary Rights
Advertising Manager
Editorial Assistant, Acquisitions
Production Controller, Medical Journals Group
Licensing Coordinator
Permissions Coordinator
Production Controller, General Journals Production
Astronomy Production Controller
Special Programs and Quality Control Coordinator
Manager, Circulation Development
Agency Relations Specialist
Operations Manager, Astronomy Group
Director, Circulation Sales & Development
Manuscript Editor, Astronomy Group

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

Are any of those part time?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

where can i find out more? seriously.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

She sent you a cake? To your work? Like when its your birthday in elementary school and your mom brings in cup cakes although my mom never did because she was a single mom and worked all the time and I would totally never even tell people it was my birthday because I went to school in middle class white people land and everybody's mom stayed home and made homemade cupcakes for their birthdays except mine and I even had to let myself in the house after school when I was like, eight, and now, did you know, that a lot of schools won't let anybody bring in homemade cupcakes? You have to bring in store-bought individually wrapped shit because of evil people and allergies to peanuts and dumbness.

Like that, Dan?

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Damn. I want cupcakes.

My mom used to mail me King Cakes ever year when she lived in Louisana.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

My mom brings us scrapple whenever she comes to visit.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

1. I don't know if any are part time. My initial guess would be no.
2. http://jobs.uchicago.edu -- If you are interested in the Astronomy jobs, email me because I can try and alert the powers that be that people are applying, otherwise the HR system is supposedly kind of maniacally slow.
3. Kind of like that, yes. The only time my mom made things for me to bring to class (she wasn't single but she did work full time) no-one liked them because they were "healthy" things like carrot cake and banana bread and didn't have FROSTING!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

I do know that they hire freelance editors all the time, so that might be a part-timeable thing.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

If we have kids, I'm bringing them scrapple to school every year on their birthday. I'll put a candle in it.

Ha. My mom was a "no sugar" mama, too. I did start drinking Tab when I was approximately four, however.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oooo Amanda would be an excellent editor. Amanda, I used to work as a freelance writer/editor so I'm happy to share experiences if you're interested.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

If we have kids, I'm bringing them scrapple to school every year on their birthday. I'll put a candle in it.

if i have kids that i know about i'll do what my mom did and show up on their birthday with a carton of lucky's and hand out packs to all the kids.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

I was just thankful that the no-more-than-9-grams-of-sugar-in-cereal rule meant that Cinnamon Toast Crunch just barely made the cut. Frosted Flakes had 11 and was therefore out, and you can forget about Trix and Honey Smacks.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

Honey Smacks.

who thought of this name anyway? what were the rejected ones? heroin-o's? general mills' junk?

props for having dig 'em being the dealer though.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

I got no sugar cereals. I remember BEGGING for Honey Comb of all things and my mom was like, Nope. Have some shredded wheat and a Tab instead.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, freelance part-time editor? Hmm hmm hmm!

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Shit, choice at my house was between oatmeal, Wheaties, and Cheerios. If we were lucky there might be Kix.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

We had sugar frosted mini wheats. They were "healthy."

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

The deal at my house was that we could have any cereal where sugar was not the first ingredient. Golden Grahams had something else first and sugar second.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Honeycombs
Fruit Loops
Corn Flakes with cups of sugar on it

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

There are so many things wrong about my childhood. I had pepsi in a bottle when I was young. got a taste for soda very early in life.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I was not alone as a child, even though it felt that way!

I realize now just how much some of my friends sucked then. They wouldn't sleep over because we 1. did not have cable and 2. did not have krazy kolored breakfast cereal.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

John, why was 9 the magic grams of sugar number?

I think my mom drew the line based on where the cereal was positioned in the store. If I could reach it, I couldn't have it.

Dan, your friends sucked. Although I did used to enjoy spending the night at my friend Beth's house in part because her mom would buy boxes of Zebra Cakes and Ho Hos. I didn't even know those things CAME by the box. It was kind of magical. She also had a Commodore 64.

20 goto 10
Run

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Shit, choice at my house was between oatmeal, Wheaties, and Cheerios

same. i ate wheaties until college.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite cereal is Quaker 100% Natural granola cereal but it's really high fat/calorie so I treat it like a desert instead of a breakfast.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

I think 9 grams was more or less arbitrary.

Favorite cereal now: Nature's Path Pumpkin Flax-Plus Granola

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

All-Bran Buddlets

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

Quaker Oat Squares

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

We only had healthy cereals when I was a kid and I never acquired the taste for sugary ones. PRODUCT 19, BITCHEZ.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

Special K plz

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

You're so pretentious. Here, have some Ordinary K.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

JUST RIGHT
BASIC 4
GREAT GRAINS

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Or whatever, I don't really care so long as it's not green or purple or some other messed up color. Everyday K is fine too.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

HONEY BUNCHES OF OATS

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

The thing is, since I only shop at Whole Foods and Trader Joe's these days, the names of these cereals are nostalgia-inducing to me, even though I bet they're still found at Jewel and Dominick's.

Oh shit: CRACKLIN OAT BRAN

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

W/ PEACHES xpost

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

PLZ STOP SHOUTING ABOUT PROCESSED GRAIN PRODUCTS, PLZ.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, the nostaliga of shopping at Dominick's with the proles.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

You must not cook a lot if you can shop at those places all the time. We go grocery shopping so infrequently, it's always great to get out of there under $250.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

I don't cook ever.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to go home and make marshmallow squares out of fruity pebbles and gorge myself into a sugar and red dye #4 coma.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Also: Trader Joe's is CHEAP. The other day I did the majority of my shopping at Trader Joe's and then went to Whole Foods to get my favorite tea and some items from the deli.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Also, the prewashed collard/mustad/turnip greens at Domminks are life saving.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Jeff, we probably need to go to the grocery store, but I can't go until after next Monday and you can't go...

Hey maybe this would be a good Peapod week, no?

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

It's cheap for frozen stuff that you can prepare quickly. We buy a lot of beans, canned tomotos, soups, grains, pasta, and a ton of veggies. And meat, you don't have to worry about that.

I'll go this weekend, I'm not going to peapod again.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, the nostaliga of shopping at Dominick's with the proles.

Heh. I just mean I remember these cereals from when I was a kid. It's hard for me to imagine that they still make Cracklin' Oat Bran, though. Do they?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

They did a few years back, but I haven't looked for it lately. These days I usually get Kashi Go Lean because it's got the most protein out of any breakfast cereal so it keeps me from collapsing by ten AM.

Aight, Jeff-o but you'll have to go alone. If I can't go to the Cubs game, I'm not going to the grocery store. *pout*

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

They do.

I go grocery shopping once a week.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

I go to three different stores usually, alternating between Dom's and TJ's for the big stuff. RP Fruit Market every week for fruits and veggies.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

i might (*might*) have a spare for the cubs game if that and not studying was holding you back.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

I also don't watch TV, so I don't see things advertised.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

I can go alone. I should have most of my homework done by then. I may even go late saturday night. Sunday day in the grocery store sucks.

Also, I should be emailing this conversation to you.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I hear there may be a TJs on Broadway in Lakeview where Dom's burned down last year.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

No, this is good. We're setting an excellent example to engaged people who married people discuss home ecomonics. Now, about those dirty socks on the floor...

Kevin, the only thing holding me back is the ten page take home exam due Monday morning. Thanks, though. I find it comforting that you keep trying to talk me out of studying for some reason.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Oh also, late night grocery shopping is the best.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

I heard that same rumor! I told the people at TJ's what I heard and they said that they hadn't heard anything about it...but who knows??

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/killmockingbird217.jpg

"I also don't watch TV, so I don't see things advertised."

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

no, no, by all means study. hopefully i won't have a spare ticket anyway.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

I do watch TV and I don't know if I've ever seen a cracklin' oat bran commercial.

My BFF's grandma used to call them "Oatie Os" so now I do, too. She also called their cat "Wootz." She also made a lot of boiled cabbage.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Inside dope I heard at a poker game (TJs rumor).

Wootz! Mister Wootz!

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://monkeydyne.com/rmcs/opencomic.phtml?rowid=97191

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny looks strange bald with a beard.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, on the other hand...

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

http://img.timeinc.net/skate/content/images/05/tampa26m.jpg

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

passed out wookie?

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/100_0357.jpg

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

nsfw

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

GROSS

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

What is a CYLON RAIDER?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Uh-oh, first Google result looks to be something related to Battlestar Galactica...

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

xpost it's a Battlestar Galactica thing.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

The Cylons are a cybernetic civilization at war with the twelve colonies of humanity in the science fiction movie and television series Battlestar Galactica, in the original 1978/1980 series as well as the movie and the reimagining of 2003-2006. The word "Cylon" was minted in the original production and is pronounced as /sīlon/.

Cylon Raider: A heavy fighter with a crew of 3, two pilots and a commander. They are armed with dual-firing weapons.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS my geeky little heart has been lost to the BSG re-make, which shouldn't be surprising since Starbuck as reimagined AS A WOMAN is pretty much everything I ever wanted to be. Holy shit that's hot.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, that comic is kind of funny! We're geniusesessss.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

my older sister owns a used book store in vermont. this is nice because she will occasionally send me books she thinks i might like. however she also has the tendency to send books that she thinks would look funny on a bookshelf in my apartment. apparently the tatum o'neil autobiography is in the post winging it's way to chicago. it will look nice next to "the lost art of towel origami".

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry to bring up Battlestar Galactica -- I just needed to ask because Laurel and Robyn were geeking out over it on the Noise Board, because some waffles looked like a spacecraft or something.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.candyfavorites.com/shop/images/products/concession_candy/582.jpg

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

(Tongue planted firmly in cheek)

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Nerds were awesome.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

http://paulsstarbasef22.homestead.com/files/Cylon_raider1.jpg

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

Dear ILX Chicago thread,

I am probably moving to Chicago in the near future (read: once I find a job in Chicago). I have a few questions about your city:

-Do you have potato chips in Chicago? What do you call them?
-I hear that hovercrafts are currently your primary form of transportation. Does hovercraft parking cost a lot?
-Are there bears? If so, are they talking bears? If not, do they use telepathy?

I will probably have more, slightly less important questions about housing and events and whatnot as moving day arrives.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

-Do you have potato chips in Chicago? What do you call them?
yes, we call them potato chips as well.

-I hear that hovercrafts are currently your primary form of transportation. Does hovercraft parking cost a lot?
no, hovercraft parking is free.

-Are there bears? If so, are they talking bears? If not, do they use telepathy?
yes, there are plenty of talking bears on halsted.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

1. Yes, but they are "Chicago Style" potato chips. This means they are covered with meat products, cheese products, and sweet or hot peppers.
2. MAGLEV
3. I think there are Bears, yes. They communicate via a system of grunts and alphanumeric codes.

Also: welcome.

xpost: ROFL@OTTO

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

1. The City Council banned potato chips (which we call "cigarettes") in January of this year, but some establishments are allowed to sell them until sometime next summer.

2. There's plentiful hovercraft parking on most city streets, although some neighborhoods are zoned so that you need a special vehicle sticker. Check with your alderman. Don't forget that hovercraft fuel pumps are generally on the roof of most gas stations, rather than on the ground.

3. Bears are scattered throughout the city, although gentrification has pushed most of them south and west of downtown. Most can talk, but it's a crude pidgin form of English -- there's currently an initiative on Mayor Daley's desk to create more funding for language education within bear-dominated neighborhoods. (Amanda, remind me to tell you about the job posting I saw.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

TELL ME NOW. LOOKIN FOR JOBS.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you so much for the quick response! I'm certain that, with your help, I can avoid becoming overwhelmed by the cornucopia of bizarre delights that the big city has to offer. Perhaps you could collaborate on an ILX Zagat guide for those of us who do not understand your strange customs.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

I just got an email that said "thank you so much for your quick response" and WOW did I have a time-space warp. HOW DID ILX KNOW ABOUT MY INTERVIEW? DID I EMAIL THE WRONG PERSON? AM I LOSING MIND?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

I can't stress this enough: Don't start trying to get up and get ready to get out of a crowded Blue Line train heading into Clark/Lake station in the morning. 75% or more of the people on the train are getting off there, too, and you're only going to bump into and annoy lots of folks.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda: Do you have any experience within the talking-bear community?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, yeah: I guess if any of you have inside 411 on entry-level graphic design positions, I'd be greatly appreciative if you could pass that on, too.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps you could collaborate on an ILX Zagat guide for those of us who do not understand your strange customs.

pfft, could? we did that last fall, paypal me $20 and i'll get one out to you post haste.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, yeah: I guess if any of you have inside 411 on entry-level graphic design positions, I'd be greatly appreciative if you could pass that on, too.

See my post upthread about UChicago jobs. Close enough.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda: Do you have any experience within the talking-bear community?
I can teach man, beast, vegetable. No kids though.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

remember when jaymc was a 'bear who assimilated into society' for halloween?

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

i'd much rather see a band that is technically deficient if they have heart and are putting forth a genuine effort.

I agree with this totally. I have this whole theory about how indie music has cycled back around to this emphasis on professionalism, and it really pisses me off.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

That's good, Nick. Use that anger in your songwriting! GRRR!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

We still have John's bear hat in our closet.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

what the fuck is going on? i'm tired and i have to go to work. what the fuck? whose idea is THAT?

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

It's a good thing the 0ptimistic has me in it to bring down the overall chops level.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

i'd still take bad indie flaccid crap over bad hardcore though. little of that goes a long way.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

I love calling bad indie rock "flaccid." That means that the good stuff is a big hard-on.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

We still have John's bear hat in our closet.

You do? That belongs to Ben J@v3ll@n@.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Cracklin' Oat Bran still exists. I had some a few months ago.

COB used to be my favorite cereal. Then suddenly in my 14th year of life, the manufacturer changed the recipe and it was too cinammony. I called their customer service line and informed them of my displeasure.

They were very nice and even asked me a few questions such as had I noticed any particular aroma when I opened the bag, etc.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

more like the bad stuff just kinda lays there. it's nothing, there's no urgency, there's no life it's just there looking like ass and making everyone wish it would either do something or go away so we don't have to look at it.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Being a teenager in rural Montana afforded me the boredom necessary to decide to lodge complaints about cereal.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

I lodged a complaint about granola bars recently.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

i just found out a girl i've got a crush on is moving to the neighborhood. in and of itself it doesn't mean anything but stilll, it's putting a bit of a spring in my step. gotta take what you can get sometimes.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

I know, man, I just get little kicks out of stupid wordplay. xxxpost

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

MY BIRTHDAY IS IN 3 DAYS!!

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

early jefferson airplane:acid rock :: starship:flaccid rock?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

:D

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

remember when jaymc was a 'bear who assimilated into society' for halloween?

I do. I thought it was bearist and offensive. I mean, going out in bearface! In this day and age!

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

bearist

The term is "Ursine-American."

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wait. Damn it.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, what was your granola bar complaint?

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

WELL the box was supposed to have six and it only had THREE. WTF? I called and complained.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

resolution?

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

New box, please. Hasn't arrived yet.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Families like the C-hams were clearly the target market for this.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/78/Cereal_Kelloggs_HunnyBs.png/250px-Cereal_Kelloggs_HunnyBs.png

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'll call the CTA. The fucking bus fucked me today. I pulled the cord and it went 'ding' and said "STOP REQUESTED" but the driver drove on. So I did it again at the next stop. HE DROVE ON STILL.

I tumbled to the front of the bus and said, "Excuse me, why are you not stopping?" He said "The bell doesn't work." Then I blacked out.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

it would've been better if he said "because you're not on the bus".

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

GASLIGHTING

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

Then I awoke with blood all over my hands and the bus out of control. The worst part is, I was like ten stops too far by then.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

That's happened to me before. One time on the way to work I pulled the cord and it dinged and it said STOP REQUESTED up front. The driver kept on going. So then I walked to the front, pulled the cord again for the next stop and he didn't slow down, so I was like MAY I GET OFF THE BUS, PLEASE??

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, check out this craigslist apt ad. Scroll down to see the druggie room.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/apa/158745412.html

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa. House of Leaves!!!

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

oh boy.

off to work.

last night the coo-coo chef saw me in the kitchen with a plate cover and he said "that go to fwont of house! you take that to line!"

i said "i know, chef. i'm just dropping off some dishes."

he responded, "why you have it in kitchen? you nevah evah leave covah on plate on table! and be careful with my china! you jepordize my china! you are carrying $50 of china!"

i said, "ok, chef, sorry about that."

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

gaslighting. hahaha. ok, not funny, but i laffed anyway.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Hey S., are you looking for a new apt.?

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

"you nevah evah leave covah on plate on table! "

I should mention that that is the really crazy part. He just randomly yelled that, sort of as a helpful FYI tidbit.

Crazy Chopsticks

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, please tell me this place comes furnished:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/apa/158786191.html

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

When I was a sophomore in high school, I wrote letters to corporations/organizations as a hobby. I wrote to...

*PepsiCo (to complain about lack of flavoring on Doritos)

*Disney (to inquire about "An Actor's Life for Me" vs. "A Pirate's Life for Me" -- same song? what's the deal?)

*Houghton Mifflin (or some such textbook publisher: to voice concern that the amount of ground beef used in a word problem in our algebra textbook seemed excessive in light of America's overeating epidemic)

*U.S. Treasury (to argue that Pres. James K. Polk deserved to be on U.S. currency)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Not really, Eric. I just enjoy looking at apartment ads.
I mean we could move, but I doubt we'd find somewhere we liked as much as where we are now for what we're paying, especially considering we'd actually have to MOVE everything.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

*U.S. Treasury (to argue that Pres. James K. Polk deserved to be on U.S. currency)

Why, pray tell?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

I compiled all the responses in a folder somewhere. I don't really remember them, except that the Disney and Treasury ones were form-letter "thanks for your interest" types of responses, the textbook publisher seemed amused, and PepsiCo gave me free coupons.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

that second place has been for rent since i was looking back in early february. that first place is two blocks west of western and they're trying to pass it off as "west wicker park"? c'mon now, just call it humboldt park. there's no stigma.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

There may be a big changeover at my apt. in the next month or two - good news though is that Jody Nueva will likely be here July 1.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

you know what president polk died from?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

to complain about lack of flavoring on Doritos

GAH! So YOU are to blame for all these horrible "EXTREME" flavored snack chips!

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Was it... The Oregon Territory?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Why, pray tell?

I don't remember! He won the Mexican War? No idea. I wasn't even aware of the TMBG song, either.

...

Wait, Jody is going to be living at your place? That's awesome.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Or perhaps the Mexican Cession?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

xp - I know! Flavor spray is so GROSS.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

GAH! So YOU are to blame for all these horrible "EXTREME" flavored snack chips!

It wasn't a complaint about the lack of flavoring in general -- just one particular packet that my girlfriend had bought in the school cafeteria that was suspiciously flavoring-free.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

i love the black pepper doritos. they are my favorite drunktime snack.*


*= cracker/chip category only.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

You are truly a knight in shining armor.

My favorite drunk snack is leftover cold pizza.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Remember, drunk snack = "pizza"

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite drunk snack is leftover cold pizza.

pizza, in all it's forms, is now and forever shall be my favorite drunktime snack.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

D'nna's moving out, probably in a month or so, and Jody gets to town July 1 and is interested in the place. The two upstairs gals may be going too (a little drama I'm totally separate from), so we'd need a third and maybe fourth.

I bet I'd like black-pepper Doritos, since I love black-pepper nuts so much. Cold very spicy food (e.g., jambalaya) is probably my favorite drunk snack.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Ex: My favorite thing to eat for pizza is tortilla chips with melted cheese and guacamole.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

lately i've been coming home and making drunktime grilled cheese sandwiches. can't wait til i burn the place down or blow myself up.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

The black pepper jack Doritos are aces. Which is saying something, considering that I don't really care for Doritos in general.

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

ditto, not a fan of regular doritos.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Ha. I was imagining John in a romantic comedy, winning a girl's heart with a letter-writing campaign to Doritos.

You know, I keep thinking Nick and I should be figuring out a way to save money to buy a condo someday, but maybe that should involve moving into a totally artsy household with other people and selling our stuff.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

I'm starting to realize that maybe I can't afford my rock'n'roll lifestyle anymore. :(

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

I was imagining John in a romantic comedy, winning a girl's heart with a letter-writing campaign to Doritos.

Funny, I was just imagining him as a really annoying teenager.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

teenage John : letter writing :: teenage Kenan : calling radio stations

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

what's more important, your life or your stuff? what is your life?

myself i lucked out and found a way cheap place and am banking the difference between what i had been paying and what i'm paying now. of course instead of using it for a downpayment on my own abode i'll probably have to use it to pay for dialysis but still, at least i'll have it.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

The things you own end up owning you.

Oh, you know who I am. (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

the girl i was with saturday just sold her condo and is getting ready to quit her uber-high paying job because she's sick of it. she has a huge set of figurative balls.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

you are not what you own

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

HIGH FIVE

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Way to bring it back around, The Dan. BRINGIN' IT BACK AROUND in '06

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

I used to write letters AND call radio stations

letters: complaining about light treatment of ECT in the local newspaper, complaining to Gillette about testing products on rabbits, commending Spin magazing on their article about Bob Stinson and expressing sadness about his passing

calling: to win tons of CDs on local college radio.

My dad went into the station like 15 years later and they remembered me!

Annoying people since 1975(TM)

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Ha!

I'm so bored. I should go pick up my computer and aid my wallet in "assuming the position."

xpost

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

I had a letter published in the Chicago Tribune when I was 14, complaining about how the "KidNews" section seemed all over the map in terms of its target demographic.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

My ECT letter and Bob Stinson letter were both published too. BY THE WAY.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

I think I've been in the Salon letters a couple times. But not as a kid.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

I had a letter published in Ray Gun magazine. I was complaining about Andy Richter's interview of Pavement, I think. I also got a pro-drug legalization letter published in my college newspaper.

And once I won an Alannah Myles tape calling in on a radio contents.

The end.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

radio contents

vs

magazing

we typo queenz

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

I wrote a letter to Darryl Strawberry asking him to sign a baseball card. I got a packet of NY Mets postcards back instead.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

I remember that Andy Richter/Pavement interview in Ray Gun, believe it or not. What did you find objectionable about it?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

Failure to worship respectfully.

Man Man (kenan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

Wasn't it just about Nastanovich's horse fetish or sumpthin'?

Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

I can't remember. I think I thought it was too much about Andy Richter and not enough about Pavement. Also I bitched about how the design made it hard to actually read it.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

That should have been part of the subject of every letter to the editor of Ray Gun.

Also: computer=fixed, Dan=$300 poorer

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Catherine the Great was a lusty lady but there's no evidence that she fucked horses.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, but come on! Wouldn't any woman, given the chance?

allan ellian (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

(um... sarcasm.)

allan ellian (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

i'm listening to kill the hippies right now and that, coupled with what i was listening to on my ipod this afternoon leads me to believe that what i listen to isn't so much punk as it is pop music. hooks! lots of 'em! more than a fishing charter.

we are the number 1...

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:16 (nineteen years ago)

In my freshman year of high school I wrote a letter to whoever makes Butterfingers. I demanded that they sell Butterfinger B-B's in Montana. I collected a page full of signatures from the other students.

(I had been in NC where I tried the B-B's and was quite upset when I returned to find that MT had no such for of Butterfinger.)

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

You rebel.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

You want to know what i do?
None of your fucking business
But now I'm lying here
Knowing that business had a name,
But now I'm a number
1 2 3 BUTTERFINGER!

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.consumerist.com/consumer/images/followthefinger.jpg

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

I want cake. But do I want cake enough to bike down to Jewel? I don't really want crappy convenience store cake.....

I think I'll go to the convenience store and get some cake.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'M GOING TO EAT CAKE!

(if i'm not back in 15 minutes, call the cops and tell them that the legless black man on broadway got me)

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 03:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'm back. I have cake and cereal. And more stolen flowers.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

You're a little criminal, you know that?

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 03:46 (nineteen years ago)

The stolen flowers


http://static.flickr.com/46/143833603_9e440c9b3d.jpg

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

So you've had your eye on them for a while. That's premeditation. A jury will convict on that evidence.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 03:49 (nineteen years ago)

I took that pic in my house. But actually I do keep my eyes peeled.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 04:41 (nineteen years ago)

I used to steal gardenias off of a bush near one of my many apts in NC. I mean, GARDENIAS. Seriously. Who can resist a gardenia? They're only around for a few weeks, someone has to enjoy their aromatic magic.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.jinx.com/images/products/187bgBlack.jpg

Man Man (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

I used to clip flowers off other people's bushes and even small limbs off flowery trees, but these days I don't bother since I know my kitty will just eat them and throw them up everywhere.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

But kitties *need* to eat things and throw up. It cleans 'em out. And flowers are at least colorful.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

I steal forks from restaurants.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

Someone brought in fuckin donut holes this morning. HOT DAMN! am I ever a happy person right now.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'm thinking of applying for this job, although I'm unsure of whether I qualify as "badass."

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

which class were you looking to teach? i could definitely do the "tobacco pipe" one.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

I can teach bachelors to cook and clean! I'd like that, saving the reasonable women of this world from a housekeeping DISASTAH in their futures.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Manners, mojo or teach a bachelor to cook and clean. I'm trained in all three, but I really prefer an advanced mojo class.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Plus I clean in efficient, rational patterns that would even make sense to, like, engineers (shocker, since my dad IS one).

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

i can keep a house clean but for the life of me i can't cook. which is why me and my ex roomate worked so well together. she can't keep a house to save her life but she's an awesome cook.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

I "walked" my cat on a leash again last night. Or rather, I stood around while he sniffed things and rolled around on the ground, then carried him back inside.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

I'm an "effective" cook -- that is, I can make dinners that people like to eat but are basically one- or two-pot things with basic supermarket ingredients. I'd like to spend more time with experiments and cooking challenges but it never seems to happen...plus it's not worth it when there's only yrself eating dinner.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

My roommate's cat has peed on her human's bed twice in about three days, so she's currently confined to her carrier. Possibly permanently, possibly bound for the Human Society. The first time I think was prob because the litterbox was horrendous but the second time? Was she just WAITING for the human to do laundry again?

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, this is rich. This guy, a total goddamn stranger, I was just talking to on the phone, asked me if I'm "ok." I said, "me?" and he said "yeah, is everything alright? you sound a little stressed."

I said, firmly, "Everything's fine. Thank you for your help."

wtf strangers having concern for my wellbeing/noticing that i'm on the verge of freaking the fuck out.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

Holla if you've been put in the "calmdown room"

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.skotrat.com/skot/jpg/falling_down/Falling_Down_0_013.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

...plus it's not worth it when there's only yrself eating dinner.

this is exactly why last night's dinner consisted of hummas, pita bread, and a couple of high lifes. i was going to marinate some chicken and make some rice but then i just said screw it and listened to records instead.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

I NEED TO GO IN THE CALMDOWN ROOM.

HA! I typed "clamdown room." I totally do not want to go in the clamdown room.

I want to go kidnap Amanda and carry us away to a bar. The calmdown bar.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

Not the clamdown bar, though.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

Cal's Calmdown Room

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

Clam's Caldown Room

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

plus it's not worth it when there's only yrself eating dinner.

ding ding ding

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Clam, Crab, Cockle, Cowrie

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

But jaymc, now you can TRAIN yourself to make cool dinners for yr grillfiend.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

crustacean

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

Comrie
http://email.eva.mpg.de/~comrie/images/bernard_comrie02.jpg

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

2x Jordan. There are soso many benefits to be reaped from this.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

But jaymc, now you can TRAIN yourself to make cool dinners for yr grillfiend.

i absolutely love making dinner with a girl i'm dating. it's awesome. it's almost as good as making her breakfast.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

god damn between the donut holes and the clams and the food talk i'm STAHVIN OVAH HEEYAH!!!!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, we've only done it once, but we def want to cook together more often.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

alksdjfalksjdf

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

That was me NOT making the obvious and childish joke I really wanted to make in resposne to that statement, FYI.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

I resisted as well.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Quiet, you two.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

hilarious

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

I said COOK

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I want to post one of your teenage goth photos and write "we def want to cook together more often" under it REAL BAD.

But I won't.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

SIZZLIN

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

MY JOB IS HARD.

Just a quick update. And now back to it.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I've got a piece of oven-fried chicken and a COKE BLAKK waiting at home for me.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

what should i have for dinner tonight? i'm gonna stop by jewel after i get off the train this evening.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

How is Coke Blaque anyway? I have a genuine distate for coffee...

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

LARB

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'll let you know after lunch.

If you don't like coffee, though, I'm not sure that we can be friends.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, Get one of those $5 Jewel pizzas.

They were handing out COKE BLAKK on the streets the other day and I wanted to try it, but I couldn't find the source of the freebies. I read the back of one bottle and doesn't it have high fructose corn syrup AND some sort of artificial sweetener in it? That just seems... silly.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

I bought this the other day:

http://www.internaturalfoods.com/Cafix/Cafix3.jpg

It's a non-caffeinated coffee substitute.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

But...why???

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, you should make chili -- you can throw beer in it along with virtually anything else you want and it will feed you for days.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

I was looking for the Bambu brand that Robyn had, which was delicious, but Whole Foods didn't have it.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

(honestly I don't really drink soda, Maddie picked it up and I just want to try the coffee coke once)

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

chili! how do you make it?

i was at jewel saturday and they have stopped selling the small freschetta brick oven pizzas. they only sell the big ones which are too much for me (unless i'm REALLLLLY hungry. like i am now) and are too big for the stupid jewel bags making them hard to carry home.

in other news i may or may not have agreed to buy a used car last night.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. :(

xpost to jaymc

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

From Wikipedia:

[Rick] Bayless is the brother of ESPN personality and sports journalist Skip Bayless.

Wow. No idea.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Someone find gbx's chili recipe pls.

(I can't)

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

I think it involved getting wasted while the chili cooked. Which is perfect!

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Worth posting again:

Ingredients:
* 3-some pounds of pork shoulder steaks (with bone in)
* 3-4 yellow onions
* lots of garlic
* Family can of crushed toms (normally use diced, grabbed wrong one)
* Can of blacks beans
* Can of black-eyed peas
* Can of corn
* 4 jalapenos, diced

Chop up the onions and garlic and set aside in a bowl.

De-bone/de-fat the pork shoulder, and cut into .5-1" cubes.

In a skillet, brown the pork with a handful of the onions and garlic until ALMOST cooked on all sides (we don't need to REALLY cook it since it'll be in the pot all night). Turn off the heat and set aside.

In a pot, start the onions and garlic. Throw in the jalapenos. This is also when we should start with the spices (if we were REALLY serious, we would have dry-roasted the spices before adding oil/onions...we also would have roasted the chiles in the oven....we're not that serious, though). Spices: cumin, coriander are your base. Chili powder is for homos. Mustard seed is OK. A dash of cinnamon can be sexy.

Once the onions are soft, throw in the can of tomatoes. Open the can first. These can be really acidic, so we want to cook them as long as possible. If you're pressed for time, throw in a PINCH of baking soda; it's really basic (pH) and will neutralize the acid. Don't use too much, though, or else it'll taste funny. Crushed tomatoes will make your chili pasty, so fill up half a can of water and chuck it in. Diced will cook down further, so use more of them.

Throw in the meat/beans/corn. If you're using garbage like vegetables (carrots are good, celery too), you should have cooked them with the onions, btw.

Go to the store and buy a sixpack. Pour one into the chili and drink the rest.

Chuck in a tablespoon of UNSWEETENED cocoa powder.

Splash in some orange juice (TOP SECRET, PLZ).

Now, because we're using actual meat and not ground, we've got to make sure that the cubes pull apart. This means LOTS OF STIRRING. That's where that six-pack comes in. Loud music helps. Last night I used a mixture of Lightning Bolt, Will Oldham for sing alongs, and a purpose-made mixtape with golden hits from Son Volt, the Detroit Cobras, De La Soul, and the Kinks, among others.

Try to crush the individual chunks of meat against the side of the pot. It'll help.

Go outside and smoke a cigarette. When you come back inside, grind up some salt into this bitch. Black pepper, too.

Open a bottle of wine. Put on the Kronos Quartet.

Keep stirring until 1.20am. Turn the heat, lid it and go to bed.

Wake up!!! You're late! Double bag the chili in freezer bags, put the bags into a small pot, wrap the pot in saran wrap, put in your bag, and bike to work.

Win.

...

Profit!

(also: don't forget oregano and a TINY TINY drip drop of chipotle sauce...and add more salt/whatever to taste)

-- giboyeux (in....), November 22nd, 2005 11:18 AM. (skowly) (link)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Bravo. That should really be on the blog.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

More here

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

The short version:
brown some ground meat (beef?) and then drain the fat (about a pound?)
sautee some onion and celery, if you want celery
throw that stuff into a pot with

one can kidney beans with chili sauce
one can black beans
another can regular kidney beans if you want it really beany
one can diced tomatoes (with juice)
a couple of spoonfuls of tomato paste
about two spoonfuls of chili powder
some cumin
some frozen corn
a dash of cinnamon
some beer
cook for about an hour or whatever, til it looks and tastes good
eat

you can throw whatever you want in there, pretty much, but it's essential that you pretend that you have worked really hard and that you have a secret ingredient.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

that's great. or rather, that would be great for tonight if i'd started cooking yesterday.

xpost- THANKS MILKMAID! that will work.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

I'm excited about my avocado salad, pita & garlic hummus, and applesauce lunch.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

it's essential that you pretend that you have worked really hard and that you have a secret ingredient.

that will be love. or bbq sauce.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

"I feel like I've talked about this on ILX too much."

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

OK now that makes no sense... stupid poxy fule.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Possible obvious additions:
garlic
salt
pepper
whatever else you can conceive would taste good in there

Make sure you put in some cayenne too. I like mine spicy.

Just remember: it's not hard to make passable, edible chili. I ALWAYS put love in it. That's an essential ingredient.

I made coffee ice cream with stale chocolate chip cookies in it and I am muy excited about trying it (it had to set overnight).

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

low heat? high heat? medium heat?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Medium low, so it won't burn.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

But it's gonna burn a little on the bottom so expect to soak.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Is Evan still on the road? I miss him already.

Oooh ICE CREAM. I was going to skip dinner last night but then I went down the street and had a couple of beers while reading book and suddenly I was incredibly hungry and ordered penne alla vodka and had dinner at 11 pm. ACK ACK.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

How do I shot ice cream???

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Cream + sugar + vanilla paste + instant coffee + stale cookies + cuisinart ice cream agitator thingie = ice cream

It's not cheating because how else are you gonna make ice cream? Breyer's uses machines to freeze/mix their ice cream, therefore I do too. And I control the sugar content, so it's like coffee with just a little sugar in it.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

If Evan woke up in Dickinson, North Dakota, yesterday morning, my guess is that that was his one stop between Minnesota and Montana, and that he's in Missoula (?) now.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

damn, i want to go home now and make chili!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Mands, that sounds AWESOME. If/when I visit Chicago I'm stayin' with YOU.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I tell everyone about the Sharks.

I just finished my first Soduko this morning. What do I win??

(Eazy, please check your various emails. I can never remember which one is your main addy.)

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

I need the whole hour for lunch today, I can feel it. I'm going to go gray in one afternoon otherwise. I'm going to the motherfucking bookstore. Fuck this stress shit.

(Sorry, I know I'm not exactly participating in the conversation here.)

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

xp - Yaaay! I can't guarantee 100% FUNZONE all the time, but I do guarantee to overfeed you. Also, you can experience the scenic Yukon territory.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

I totally want to make that ice cream now, although I do not have a magical ice cream agitating machine.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Me too and me neither.

Questions: Can you use, say, half and half instead of cream? What is vanilla paste and where do I get this?

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Can you put strawberries in it?

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

They're pretty cheap -- it's really just a frozen insulated canister sitting atop a motor which rotates the canister and scrapes the ice cream off the size as the cream mixture freezes.

I think they're like $30?


2 cups half and half
1 cup milk
1/3 cup sugar
3 T instant coffee
1 T vanilla extract/paste (paste has pieces of bean in it!)
after it agitates for 20 min throw in any additions (nuts, chocolate chips, brownie blobs, whatever)

You can put whatever you want in it once you have the basic recipe down.

I made vanilla malt ice cream once with dark chocolate chips and peanuts and a caramel ribbon and it tasted like a Snickers bar.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

That's okay, I can make my own FUNZONE. I like to drink a lot, though, so maybe you shd hand me over to one of the fellow alkies around 9pm?

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Can you put cayenne in it?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

xp - The train is 1/2 block away, so it's convenient for alkies.

You could put whatever you want in it.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

You can take the half-block away train south... four or five stops and then you'll be two blocks from Jeff and Jesse and me. And John, too, maybe. If you come during the summer, we'll be all the alkies youneed.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Can you put, perhaps, spinach in it?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Note: There are a lot of more complicated (and delicious) ice cream recipes that involve standing over the stove, etc. but I tend to stick with the same base and then add things (fruit, chocolate, nuts) and flavors (orange, vanilla, mint) in a variety of combinations. I tried sorbet once and it didn't work out -- I made a giant square mango popsicle that I had to hack away at with a knife.
I recommend the Cuisinart ice cream agigator thingie. It's worth $30.

No, no spinach.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

JORADN STOP TRYING TO HEALTHIFY ICE CREAM.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

can you put booze in it? or would the lower freezing point of the alochol throw a spanner in the works?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Really, of all people. But I think some chocolate ice cream with cayenne would be quite good.

It might mess with the freezing point. Keep the booze in the Jello.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

HOWEVER: I have not tried coconut milk. I wonder if that would be good?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah - Wrote U Back. (There's a hit single title, eh?)

Fox & Obel has tiny chocolates sprinkled with things like wasabi and cayenne and curry - all good, the ones I've tried.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

i was thinking some combination of baileys/kaluha/chocolate/coffee confection.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

I bet it would be.

Otto, just pour Bailey's over the top, can't lose.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

YOU KNOW Amanda, with this amazing ice cream making technology, we can make THAI TEA ICECREAM. I just know we can.

How about avocado ice cream? I am being serious - avocado bubble teas are delish, so why not ice cream?

Ooooo or ginger ice cream. You can add make ginger extract somehow and add crystalized ginger... OMG.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

I made coffee with cacao nibs and ginger pieces once, it was really good.

THAI TEA though, that's the next frontier. I'm ready whenever you are.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Eric, wrote you back.

I think it would be dangerous for me to have an ice cream maker.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

There goes your wedding present.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, consider my theory:

I'm going to be eating ice cream no matter what, so I might as well be able to control its fat/sugar/whatever content.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

OMG

I bought some locally-made yogurt from this teeny tiny farmer's market that was going on near my work, and it is O M G.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

If you don't like coffee, though, I'm not sure that we can be friends.

I went on a couple of dates with a guy who did hated coffee and never really drank much in the way of caffeine. Also, he rarely drank booze.

The coffee thing in particular felt like a genuine problem.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

VERDICT: Coke Blak does taste like coffee, and it's actually pretty good!

(doesn't mean I'm going to make a habit out of it)

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

I'm amazed by people who have made it into adulthood and have, like, jobs and stuff, and do not regularly drink coffee. I'm fine with being friends with them; I just regard them as superhuman.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

I went to the shit bookstore at the corner of Wash and Wells, which is closing and everything is 50% off. Fine, but 50% of their stock is The Complete Idiot's Guide to something. The Complete Idiot's Guide to Ghosts and Hauntings -- I shit you not.

Anyway, I got a book about 60's soul music, a book called "Biology as Ideology" about how this whole "science is religion" thing doesn't quite work because of the way economics and politics shape what science studies, and I got a copy of The Nicomachean Ethics, because I lost mine a long time ago.

Hooray train rides!

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

The purloined flowers are great. They're mostly lilacs, so my apartment smells very nice. I had to move them away from my desk b/c the scent was too strong.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

I'm amazed by people who have made it into adulthood and have, like, jobs and stuff, and do not regularly drink coffee. I'm fine with being friends with them; I just regard them as superhuman.

Thank you for stroking my fragile fragile ego

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite Emily met a guy on match.com who didn't drink beer or coffee and didn't like chocolate and to this day, she refers to him as "the man who ate only air."

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

i think you people are just weird dan. like scientologists or something.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

I think it would be dangerous for me to have an ice cream maker.

Trust me -- they're wonderful. Fun and yummy, and you can make sherbet and flavored ice things as easily as you can make actual ice cream. Imagine making your own vanilla ice cream, and then throwing hunks of fresh peaches in at the last moment, and then letting it set in the freezer for a few hours, and then eating it when it's hot outside, all full of fresh fruit and real eggs. And then, spontaneous orgasm.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

so eating ice cream while riding a bicycle is out i guess, eh kenan?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Ew, eggs?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

talk me down off the ledge chicago, i'm out of cigarettes.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Don't the scientologists think they're superhuman too?

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Um... yes. Eggs. Ice cream has eggs in it. Raw ones.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Approx distance to nearest deli?

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Actually, just the yolks.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda's ice cream has no eggs.

Note: I think that not all ice cream automatically has egg yolks. French vanilla does, and that's why it's yellow. Source: Cook's Illustrated.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

These Ricky Gervais podcasts are great. I'm bloomin' pissin' mysel', I am.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Some ice cream has egg whites, it's true. But not most. All Ben and Jerry's has eggs. All storebought ice cream has eggs, I'm sure.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

No Kenan, not all storebought ice cream has eggs.

Many don't.

French Vanilla has egg yolks, and others have it as well. It's delicious, but not essential. It gives ice cream a really delightful custardy taste and mouthfeel.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

So, my birthday.....

I am going to Red Lobster, by Christ, and I know of at least 2 people who are coming with me. Please tell me if YOU are too. I would like to make it an early dinner b/c I'll be damned if I'm going to try to pack into a major chain restaurant in the heart of tourist town on a Friday night. So EARLY.

If you're not doing the Red Lobster, I'd like to at least get a drink after or something.

Also, help me out here: king crab or snow crab??

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Well, all Ben and Jerry's does. It says so in their FAQ. I'm going through ice cream recipes, and all the basic ice creams have egg yolks, it seems (sometimes a staggering amount of them), but heavy cream seems like the real essential thing to have. Hence the name of the dish, I suppose.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Egg-streme.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, I'd like to go get drinks and such, but I'm going to be out of town this weekend. I owe ya a beer.

Also, why not both crabs? IT"S YOUR BIRTH DAY

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know the difference between king and snow crab.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, Google.

http://www.chartingnature.com/img%5CAS%5CSnowCrab.jpghttp://www.chartingnature.com/img%5CPS%5CKing-Crab.jpg

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I think I like snow crab legs. I dunno about king.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I want lobster and crab. So I have to make a choice on the crab. (I know usually the birthday boy gets treated, but since this is spendy I am thinking we go Dutch.)

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

At my work we have king crab. I like them b/c they're HUGE and easy to work with. But I hear that snow is the tastiest.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of snow--who's buying the cocaine for my birthday?

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.heyyoungjeezy.com/images/jeezysnowmanshirt.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I don't have much experience with straight-up crab. Crab rangoon, crab in sushi, crab in gumbo, soft-shell crab, yes, but not big ol' whole crabs. I'm not sure I'd know what to do with 'em.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

My old roomie (the oft-mentioned passed out naked chick) and I used to make a huge pot of crab and just sit there and eat it til it was gone. She was a good pig-out buddy.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

U know what I think is absolutely delicious?

WHOLE MILK

esp. farm-fresh whole milk

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

You and Kenan deserve each other.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Why?

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

My old roomie (the oft-mentioned passed out naked chick)

uhm, NOT OFT ENOUGH.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse have you ever had that Amish milk that's pasteurized just barely to the legal limit? It's incredible. The skim milk tastes like ordinary whole milk. The whole milk tastes like... ahhh. Fatty, colloidial, yet cool, refreshing, and soothing. Brilliant.

(Caution: goes bad in approximately 20 minutes)

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

They were selling farm-fresh whole milk at the booth where I got the yogurt this morning. Too bad it's gross.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

"passed out naked chick" + "good pig-out buddy" = I do not need to see this.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Milk in general is gross.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

I only eat Edys Grand light.

Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Otto -- when Amanda used to mention that roommate more often, believe me, I was the one making the raised-eyebrow comments.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/0b/75/137011-music-resized200.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

I think my nasty naked roommate deserves a spot in the Excel spreadsheet, don't you? Maybe she already has one.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

I think she deserves a spot on WDYLL.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, now I'm going to have "Magic Johnson" stuck in my head all afternoon.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

I do have some photos of her. Brief description: loooooong (rather pretty) brown hair, blue eyes, biiiiiiig boobs and a glamour shot of herself in a cowboy hat on her dresser, which was also covered in trash and ciggie butts. I don't have a photo of her with her beloved whip.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

loooooong (rather pretty) brown hair, blue eyes, biiiiiiig boobs ....

ehhh, who'd be interested in that?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

YSI?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

LOL.

Don't know how keen I'd be on the boobs, but wouldn't want to be presumptuous, either.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

The only google match for 'passed out naked chick' is a set of party photos pretty SFW: http://community.webshots.com/album/105530136wwQqbp/0

One of the partgoers has a "STONEFOXX" t-shirt. S. should add a second X.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

How big is biiiiiiig?

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

John, do you hate coffee and boobs?!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

You guys skipped the part about the GLAMOUR SHOT and her lack of basic hygiene. That's essential to her.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Once you go busty, you'll never go rusty.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Ha! That party has chicks making out and manpiles! BRO-LICIOUS!

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Big enough to make me look like a 12 year old.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.downloads2.homestead.com/o_brien.jpg

Don't know how keen I'd be on the boobs, but wouldn't want to be presumptuous, either.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, now I'm going to have "Magic Johnson" stuck in my head all afternoon.

Does anybody want some?

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://image06.webshots.com/6/9/76/59/104197659PgRJNC_ph.jpg

We drink some beers down at the Gold Star
Then we drink some more at another bar
And when it's time to kick it up a notch
We have a MANPILE while our girlfriends watch

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, I think that Coke Blak has gone to my head.

Also, I started reading Love & Rockets, where the dialogue is much more realistic than the breast sizes.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

The "O Faces on the Beach" was a rather yummy bunch.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, if you're out there, I need to know if you're going to yoga tonight? I am.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

John, do you hate coffee and boobs?!

Did you even read that "jaymc + caffeine" search? I LOVE coffee, but my body doesn't. :(

But re boobs: haha, before I hit Submit, I wondered if there would be anyone who might take offensive at my comment, and the first person I thought of was you.

It really depends. But big boobs on their own don't do much for me. In some ways, this shouldn't be surprising coming from me.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

You know, since I hate women.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

No, I'm not surprised, just feigning indignation.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

I may be superhuman and able to live without coffee... but without boobs? I AIN'T... JESUS (?) OR ANYTHING.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

Eep I'm sorry I mentioned her boobs. Breasts. Lactationators.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I'd agree with you John, but then I had an image of you and Tuomas and I sitting around being sensitve to women's needs and accepting of their body types and talking about menstruation and I shuddered a little so instead I'm just going to say that I love breasts. FUCKING LOVE 'EM.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

so drunk i can't remember" (1 matching message)


I am 25, and I still haven't experienced this unable-to-remember business. Sometimes the memory isn't quite vivid, but it's never completely gone.
As far as 24 being a magic number, that's when I developed an intolerance to big boobs!

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), November 1st, 2004.

Our Beautiful Machinery: Chicago part 8 (2 matching messages)


all excederin has big boobs, i think.

Which my little body can't handle, anyway.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), July 19th, 2005.



Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

OK WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME I WILL STOP NOW

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Let's get this straight. I love boobs, but I place a much higher premium on perkiness than on size.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

naturally

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

boobs rarely enter into the equation when i'm looking for a woman. looking back now history seems to indicate that i prefer them on the small side. excepting the most recent ex who was blessed with what i consider perfect boobs. god how i miss them.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

Let's agree to disagree.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

I love "farm-fresh" whole milk. It tastes buttery. Where can I get that shit around here? (I know it's still pasteurized and homogenized, but I love the close facscimiles of 'farm-fresh' that I have tasted.)

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://community.webshots.com/photo/105530136/1102786384049711796QJdWVB#

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

shit monster

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

goldfarb

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

Sudoku is my new god. Does anyone else play?

I love coffee. I am not going to talk about boobs again.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

I hate sudoku.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Sudoku is my new god. Does anyone else play?
I love coffee. I am not going to talk about boobs again.

i'm down with all three.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

"why would I like sudoku"

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

I hate sudoko. I am bad at it.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Me too.

Also: letters > numbers

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like Laurel and I bonded over this...?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

anything that will take my mind off being on the blue line is fine with me. sudoku is definitely easier to do on the train than a crossword puzzle. less writing.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

I hate sudoko. I am bad at it.
DITTO

I would rather read.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

sudoku has nothing to do with the numbers in it. the numbers could just as easily be letters.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

I don't play Sudoko, because I hate it and am bad at it. I also love coffee. I would talk about boobs again, if provoked.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

coffee and boobs.

sounds like a blowfly song.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I love it because you can FIGURE IT OUT. It's all about problem solving, not knowledge-based like crosswords tend to be.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

SO SO OTM

I don't understand sudoku AT ALL. The whole charm of crossword puzzles is that they require a very specific command of language, the ability to think sideways, and a knack for categorizing various bits of stored information in extremely cross-referenced ways. Sudoku offers all the frustration of not being able to complete the grid without ANY OF THE JOYS.
-- Laurel (sininspac...), December 1st, 2005 3:26 PM. (Laurel) (link)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Yesterday, in the hallway:

Geeky Developer: Hey, did you see my joke on the office calendar?

Me: uh, no?

GD: See, June 31st is the square root of -1 day. Get it??

Me: Uh, no, why don't you explain it to me?

GD: Because the square root of -1 is an imaginary number. And June 31st doesn't exist!!!

Me: That's very clever of you. I'm sure someone will get it.

GD: Well, I'm 0 for 1 so far.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

i've been reading this and going down memory lane about local bands. i now feel old to the point of being decrepit.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

me: i got a shock from my sink!
i got a real electrical shock from my sink!
it's made of coated iron, so it conducts, but where is the electricity coming from?

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

So you keep saying. I would like to do a letter-based sudoku puzzle and see if that's any easier for me.

And, just for the record, I love coffee and I think boobs are just grand.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha geeky developer.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

I was scrubbing my sink with a brillo pad and I felt the distinct tingle of electricity. So I touched it with my other hand and, yep, sure enough there it was! It was mild, like an electric fence.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

whoa that was like a billion xpost to Jesse about numbers and sudoku, etc.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

(I can hear John asking how he would know what an electric fence shock feels like)

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

I got shocked by a lamp with a bad cord once and it knocked me off a stool. Scary!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

I tried doing sudoku once. I filled in each box with every possible number that could fit (in tiny writing) and expected that once I had all filled in, there'd be at least one or two boxes where there could only be one answer, and then I'd be able to go from there. But every box had multiple possibilities (wtf) and the prospect of doing higher-level logic just gave me a headache.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

sudoku has nothing to do with the numbers in it. the numbers could just as easily be letters.

Oh, I know. Maybe I meant words? Although I still think letters > numbers, in general.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

xpost- you have to approach it with a strategy. I have tried filling in possible numbers, but that's not a good approach at all. What helped me learn how the puzzle is fun was reading very basic strategies. It was like 3 or 4 paragraphs and a couple of diagrams. Then I saw how they are do-able.

That said, I have stopped doing all puzzles recently. I don't know why.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

I have a headache that feels like someone is standing on my face.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

i can't wait until i get out of here so i can get some nicotine in me. i'm about 20 minutes away from rolling up a post-it note with pencil shavings and smoking that.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you were quitting?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

no.

maybe after the blackout.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

I had two cigarettes at Guthrie's last night and then swirled around some mouthwash to mask the smell. When I saw Kr. later, she said "You smell like mouthwash." Busted.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

i used to hate it when i'd break down at lunch and bum a cigarette at like 1 in the afternoon then give jen a kiss when i came through the door at 6 and she'd say "you've been smoking". goddamn!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

You can't hide it, dudes.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

not a concern anymore, for better or worse.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

It's helping me quit, at any rate.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

Interesting (maybe) quitting trivia - for the first two or three years after I quit, I would have frequent and vivid dreams that I was smoking. Early on, I would wake up from these dreams very sad.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

it's rare that i remember my dreams. unless my alarm clock wakes me up mid-dream i never remember them.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Since apparently no one takes me seriously on the NEW SHOES thread, let me cross-post here:

I guess this is as good a thread as any to ask what Ugg boots are and why they are so bad and hated.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), May 10th, 2006 3:01 PM. (jaymc) (later) (link)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

IM conversation

Dan: Do you know what Ugg boots are?
GF: yes
GF: they were the hottness a few seasons ago
GF: now even kmart has a ripoff
GF: they look like my steve maddens (the brown suede ones with the fuzzy balls)
Dan: I see.
Dan: Are they hated?
GF: umm. maybe by up-to-date fashionistas

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

They are sororitastic.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my god. Uggs. I hate them simply because they are ugly and drove my ex-girlfriend to spend $600 on a pair back when they were on "worldwide backorder". Insane.

jonviachicago (jonviachicago), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

i've always found ugg boots to be heinous and i'm about as clueless as you can get fashion-wise. you should see what i'm wearing today in fact. i just looked for the first time and i look like i was dressed by a color blind 2nd grader with either a sick sense of humor or deep psychological problems.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

See, I'm even more clueless because I don't even know what they are -- I've only heard people talk about them in cluck-cluck ways.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

They are sororitastic.

Yep. That about sums it up. I think it's another case of a fashion bad and hated not only because of it's outward appearance (not exactly the shit), but because of a certain kind of person that became devoted to the brand. See also: striped shirt guy.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

What's wrong with striped shirts?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't changed my mind about sudoku, I like a set of tits just fine but I don't really understand what's so important about nipples specifically (except for ACTUAL LACTATION purposes, obv) and I don't like the word "boobs".

Ugg boots get dirty really easily because they're made of fawn-colored suede and there's no good way to clean suede, also because the almost inevitably fit very loosely and so the wearer is much more likely to scuff feet and shuffle along which a) dirties shoes, b) makes stupid noises, and c) LOOKS REALLY AWKWARD AND UGLY PLS POINT YR FEET FORWARD AND PICK THEM UP GAWD. Also the loose fit means they don't show ANYTHING of your instep or ankle or lower leg so they're the footwear equivalent of a mumu or grandma house-dress which is fine in its place but woe betide he who advocates it as outerwear.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

striped shirt guy

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

but I don't really understand what's so important about nipples specifically

they're pretty much the exclamation point, they give it that little extra something.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Boobs would look weird without the nipple. They really bring the breast together.

Also, you know, that whole "nerve ending" thing.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

I figure we’ll kick off the night with some Golden Tee! I am going to smack the shit out of that little white ball!

I LOVE GOLDEN TEE AND THEY ONLY HAVE IT AT ALL THE WRONGEST BARS FUCK YOU GOLFY DOUCHE

Well, and Schuba's. They have it there, too.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Since we're kinda talking about fashion, can I just say that POPPED COLLARS ARE THE MOST WORSTEST FASHION TREND SINCE TIGHTROLLING JEANS. I normally don't get all uppity about this kind of thing but for some reason it really, really bothers me.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Also, there's a thread on stripey-shirt dudes somewhere, but I'm not having any luck searching for it.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, that kind of striped shirt.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

I don't mind Uggs per se, but I do strenuously object to the wearing of Ugg boots with miniskirts. And I strenuously agree with Laurel w/r/t the scuffing. PICK UP YR FEET, LITTLE WOMAN.

Also, any fashion trend that appears to be so mindless adopted that people will pay $600 for boots that get dirty easily and really, for all the world, resemble house slippers, tends to put me off.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Annoying loud Christian girl at work -> showed up to conference w/customers -> miniskirt ending about a foot above her knees + sparkly Uggs

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

i always think women wearing uggs look like clydesdales.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

I like vertical striped shirts. I do NOT like diagonally striped shirts.

I DO NOT LIKE SPARKLY UGGS.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Agreed. WHAT IS UP with womenfolk wearing furry high boots and minis?? It is springtime! I guess they spent so much money on them, they're trying to ride out the fad as long as they can.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

i've heard people offer opinions on wearing flip-flops on public transit, especially the train. i'm going to do that tonight. DOES ANYONE WANNA MAKE SOMETHING OF IT?

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Or weirdly out-of-place Aleuts or something. xpost

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

I love collars popped. For me it's a nod to the whole greaser chick thing, plus the fact that I come from a summer town where everyone sails and it has made me DESPISE things like Sperry topsiders from the bottom of my blackened little townie heart but I do feel like I'm kind of reclaiming a perfectly good distinguishing wardrobe option with the collars.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

i can not imagine wearing flip flops on the el, i already feel woefully unprotected without a haz-mat suit.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

if you ever see me with my collar popped it means i've recently been in a head-lock.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

Although, if you were to ask, "What, in fashion, is the opposite of sparkly" I might immediately think "fawn suede Ugg boots" so in that respect, it's kind of MIND BLOWING.

Mostly, though, I just think it would be annoying.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like wearing flip flops on the El either. I tend to stick to a "shoes I can run from the cops in" creedo when it come to wearing shoes out in public.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

I imagine your feet would get stepped on a lot, and it would hurt. With flip flops, I mean.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Ever since I can remember I've been poppin' my collar, poppin' my collar, poppin poppin my collar

Popped collars are totally preppy high school boy a la the OC.

I never learned how to walk in flip flops.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

I wear the collar on my track jacket up (and zipped), but that's it.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

That reminds me: someone ran over my housemate's foot with one of those big rolling briefcase/suitcase jobbers that all the businesspeople fucks drag around. He exclaimed "OW!" (evidently it really hurt, I saw the bruise) and then said "thanks a lot, DAY TRADER" -- this elicited a laugh from the surrounding commuters.

I can't recall if I told this story in person or not.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yes. I need a fairly robust protective barrier around myself to feel comfortable on the El and open-toed shoes of any type don't meet my needs. However, usually by July it's warm enough and I've reduced the number of layers (HA I TYPED LAWYERS) I wear anyway so that exposing my bare skin to El air doesn't seem as hazardous as it does in May.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Me too, Sarah! Evan was trying to convince me to get a pair of those holey rubber shoes (nahmean?), but I'm not down with those either.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

i do it all the time. i think the sight of my gross toes adds to the colorful nature of CTA travel.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have a problem with flip-flops on the train or anywhere else. I don't tend to wear them much myself, but anyone else is perfectly welcome to, especially pretty girls.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Crocs? Something like that.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

I don't mind if anybody else wears flip flops, either. I'm just talking about me. Those rubber clogs with holes in them make me kind of irritable, though.

RIDDLE ME THIS: Are the same women who wear miniskirts and Uggs also wearing rubber clogs with holes in them and no socks in the middle of winter???

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

I passed a Trixie the other day and thought, "Man, you know what I need is some heather capri sweatpants."

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Wearing flip flops in NYC is automatically a filthy dirty proposition. The subways are probably SIGNIFICANTLY cleaner than your average sidewalk in the hot months, and with all the oil exhaust and tire rubber that get ground into the streets and then lifted off as dust you pretty much have to disinfect yr feet at the end of the day ANYWAY. I don't have any problems with 'em except as noted on some recent thread I HATE SCUFFLING FEET so the whole "flip-flop walk" drives me crazy. It's really not necessary, people just see other people doing it, I think, and somehow the scuffing turned-out walk has become the hallmark of dumb high school girls and annoying people everywhere.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

That'd show off your calfs nicely John.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

calfs=calves

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'd need a terrier of some sort, too.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

Wearing flip flops in NYC is automatically a filthy dirty proposition.

I can't believe how many kids on the high school trip my mom chaperoned wore flip flops to a Broadway show (... CHICAGO). I think I was probably mistaken for being a teacher when I was with them as none of them seemed to be wearing any form of clothing not available at "PacSun".

JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Cue massive eye roll, because doesn't anyone dress up for ANYTHING anymore?? Jesus, read one (1) Joseph Campbell paragraph on the significance of ritual!! I'm probably the girliest/skirtiest/most formal dresser out of any of my close friends and I'm really NOT very prissy as you will know if you've ever seen me drunk and happy.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

But my mother did believe in distinguishing the relative formality/significance of life events by one's choice of attire. Maybe that's a generational and/or Southern thing?

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Is your mom Southern?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

(Sorry to post again but I should say "my mother DOES believe", since she is still with us among the living.)

She was hugely influenced by her grandmother, who hailed from Merriville, TN.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

This explains a lot.

JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

Really? Nothing since 4:52?

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

Arrived home to find this box on the kitchen counter:
http://static.flickr.com/28/36360135_2d9b7776f8.jpg

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 04:51 (nineteen years ago)

Huh.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

(John and I saw Tara Jane O'Neil - good show, beautiful sounding guitar)

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 04:55 (nineteen years ago)

Cable did me wrong. I just caught a few minutes of Look Who's Talking Now. I am very simply amazed at how bad it was. Depressingly bad.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 05:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'm up Nick and Amanda early! I'm also drinking Irish Breakfast tea and this is flashing me back to the days when I would occasionally work the 6 AM to 2 PM shift at a convenience store, and drink a lot of tea because I went a couple years not being able to drink coffee a la jaymc. (John, I think the less there is that there's hope - you might be able to drink coffee again one day.)

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 09:31 (nineteen years ago)

lesson, obv.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

Hi there. I like gettin' dressed up.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

Me too!

I went at least two years with no caffeinated soda or coffee. One upside was that I lost weight because I mostly drank water.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

that shoes thread has reminded me that i need some black shoes for kicking around. it also reminds me that i hate shopping for shoes.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

I love creased pants, crisp shirts, carefully tousled and good-smelling hair. I hate walking to work in the rain and looking like a dumpster by the time I get there.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

I found a gig for anyone who wants to be in an AWESOME band:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/tfr/159383438.html

I fucking love shoe shopping. There, I said it.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

I fucking do, too.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

So for the next three or four days, we're looking at rain and a high in the low fifties. Typical, right? Well, as I'm walking to the train this morning in my purple cords and my Doc Martins (my "rain shoes" as I like to think of them) what do I see but a woman walking to the train in white capris and flip flops.

I saw three or four more women on the train wearing flip flops, too.

Am I the only person who actually looks at the forecast and dresses accordingly?

Speaking of rain, trains, and flip flops, Jesse has something to share with you all when he gets up.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm waiting for some genius to enclose all of Manhattan in a climate-controlled bubble so that I need never sweat again on the way to work. WIth rain, though, you can go either way -- you can opt to FIGHT THE POWAH and try to stay dry with impervious layers, or you can go with it, cuff yr jeans or wear a skirt and dry your feet off when you get where you're going. Usually depends on how contrary I feel when I wake up.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, I've noticed that your use of "fucking" has increased lately. Do you care to comment on this?

It's not the rain so much as the high in the low 50s. I totally feel you w/r/t fighting the powah when it's warm out. But these women are going to be cold. I hate being cold.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

I found a gig for anyone who wants to be in an AWESOME band:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/tfr/159383438.html

i LOVE that church. it's on damen and if you walk past it there's a hand-scrawled sign inviting you in. the last lines read:

Message of the day:
Jesus Loves You
Free Coffee

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

Ahh but is the message "Liberate yr morning beverage!" or "Delicious liquid caffeine at no cost to you, yes you"?

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

Actually when it's warm and raining I think flip flops are a perfect choice because rubber shoes and feet dry fast.

Also, here is one side of a cell phone conversation I overheard on the train today:

Judge Judy is not intelligent.

...

Just because somebody tells people what to do doesn't make them intelligent.

...

Just because somebody went to a good school doesn't make them intelligent.

...

Good grades don't make somebody intelligent.

...

They might be smart but they aren't intelligent.

...

Intelligence is natural.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

i think it's missing a comma and it's actually an affirmation TO the coffee which has no cost.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

incidentally the sign looks like it was written by either a 6 year old or a mentally deranged person.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

Every morning when I come to work I gently cradle my steaming mug and whisper to it softly, "Jesus loves you, free coffee."

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, that's how I read the church sign too.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

I just have been in the mood to use obscenties lately - not a bad mood, just a mood. I need to loosen up a little, go a little crazy before I become a wife.

I told my coffee to chill this morning and then put ice in it.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

I've wanted these shoes for a while now (in bronze, to match my hair obviously):
http://www.ninewest.com/s?namespace=catalog&origin=search_results.jsp&event=p.shoe&pid=12926&search=yes

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

I need to loosen up a little, go a little crazy before I become a wife.

Oh no. You're not going to have a bachelorette party at a male strip club, are you?

I love that the free office coffee here is actually pretty good -- Starbuck's Breakfast Blend, my favorite flavor of Starbucks since it's one of the few that's not totally burned and bitter. Downside: non-dairy creamer. Eaugh.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

We have powder creamer here. Ick ick ick.

No, I will not go to a male strip club. I have never been attracted to the Chippendale look.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

Well fuckin' A, Sarah McLusky! That's fucking great.

Seriously sometimes I will get a bee in my bonnet and just curse up a politically incorrect storm. I will just go on a rampage of saying things that would make Richard Pryor or Sarah Silverman blush. It's like I need an obscene yin to balance out my generally sensitive, aware, PC yang.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Our free office coffee is dreadful. I bring my own soy creamer in. I'm always tempted to bring my own actual coffee in, too, and make a pot of joe that would electrify the office.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Me too.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

Our free office coffee is pretty good, it's a "custom" blend from a local place. Of course, the coffee makers and carafes are never ever cleaned, which is icky. I use milk instead of crappy creamer.

I rented Munich and the Poisedon Adventure last night and (finally!!) watched 3/4ths of Munich. It's really, really good.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

i don't drink our office coffee, i walk about a quarter mile across campus to cafeteria and get some there. it's still horrible but not as bad. i usually make a mug of java before i leave in the mornings but i've been running late everyday this week so i only have this wretched swill. after my morning work coffee i switch to either green tea or throat coat. i'm addicted to throat coat.

once my hair dries out i have a feeling i'll be sporting the full-on art garfunkle jewfro.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

You work on a campus?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

You're Jewish?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

You're Jewish?

XPOST HOLY SHIT

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

someone who likes shoe shopping should totally find me some casual black shoes for me. i will reward you with a beer when next i see you.

campus= yes
jewish= not that i'm aware but trace my fathers ancestors back a few generations and who knows. i was raised a catholic but am currently a spiritual free agent.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

I recommend the Church of Free Coffee.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

since i don't have cable and reception in my spider-hole of an apartment is shakey at best i'm limited in what tv i watch. one of my FAVORITE shows is the sunday church services from the south side. i like the small/medium churches the best and i love the ones with a drum riser behind the pulpit. great music, i mute the tv and turn on records when they go into the sermon but as soon as the choir starts up i listen. that's about as far as i go with organized religion these days.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

seriously. find me shoes.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Have you been to South Union Arts yet? It's got that same setup.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

During the summer, Alamo Shoes in Andersonville has some awesome sidewalk sales.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

I second the church music love. You know it's gonna be good if the drummer has a big fusion kit and those plexiglass panels in front of his drums, or if he's 13 yrs old.

I need some serious shoes for going on tour this summer. They need to be black and reasonably professional-looking, but not give out/give me tons of blisters when I walk for 12 hours day in them. I don't think these shoes exist.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

OTM on the 13 yr old behind the drum kit. also, if i tune in late and the guitar player is either playing a telecaster or visibly sweating through his clothes i'll pull up a chair, open a bag of chips and settle in all afternoon. i love it when church music incorporates the phelps collins chicken scratch guitar.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

It's like I need an obscene yin to balance out my generally sensitive, aware, PC yang.

I'd have guessed it was the other way around: you know, like a polished yin and a raw yang. HEY-OOOOOOOO.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

someone who likes shoe shopping should totally find me some casual black shoes for me.

Ditto, except make the black shoes kinda dressy. For a wedding. That I'm going to a week from Saturday. Thanks.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

my only black shoes are too dressy for casual wear, they'd look stupid plus i wouldn't want to subject them to the filth that they'd encounter at subt or the bottle or what have you.

seriously, find me a decent pair of shoes and i'll buy you a beer. two beers, one for each shoe. DEAL??!?!? deal.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have a handle on men's fashion, or on the rules & regs of any place I haven't lived. If you showed me a pair of shoes I could say whether I liked them and/or whether they seemed to suit you (although only if I've met you/met yr wardrobe so that's pretty much just JMZ) but I can't brainstorm shoe venues/choices for Chicago out of nowhere. Phil Two to thread, maybe?

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Or Nabisco to thread, he was just telling me about some crazy Chicago shoe store he used to pillage on sale days.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

there used to be a place in oak park that was always having crazy ass sales but the last time i was out there (about 3 months ago) they had shuttered the store.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

or on the rules & regs of any place I haven't lived

Chicago has rules and regulations for shoes??

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

these are 40% on sale:

http://www.zappos.com/images/717/7175643/827-160056-d.jpg

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

I was gonna say...ILXors be overthinkin' their men's footwear.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

i want something i can easily kick off when i pass out on my bed. i used to have a pair of clark monkstraps that were great for that.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

No ma'am. Footwear is important.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

The thing I don't like about clothes shopping is that it all seems so arbitrary. I always feel like I'm just settling for whatever I buy because I don't feel like scouring every single store in the city to find something better. With books and records, I know exactly what I want, and I know it will be the same no matter what store I go to.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

I realized the other day that my black shoes say "Hush Puppies" on the inside, but "The Body Shop" on the tongues, WTF?? Discount, baby.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

I have gotten both of these with a birthday gift certificate to Zappos:
http://www.zappos.com/images/718/7189241/1733-59602-d.jpg
http://www.zappos.com/images/D/Deers82/11355-d.jpg
Both were under $50. I love the first pair. The second I haven't worn as much but I hadn't had a pair of "nice" shoes like that for several years.

Also, I haven't gone to a shoe store for a few years because of Zappos. Just too hard to find anything I like in my size in stores.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

(The preceding message was not paid for by Z@pp0s dot com)

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

It's not THAT important! For me, shopping is something that must be done expediently and alone. I guess it's the "what do you think? is this ok? no, it's not? how about these?" aspect of shopping that I just cannot stand. The waffling. The overthinking. For me, I buy what I want and don't worry about whether other people like it.

For me, it's way more unattractive to see a man who has thought too much about his shoes than to see a man with unattractive shoes. At least for me. I would rather know that he's thinking about something more interesting than what people think of his shoes.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

For me for me for me

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

This is like my internal monologue at clothing stores:

"Do I like this sweater? I don't look, it looks okay. Can I pull it off, though? Hmmm. It's kind of snug. But is it supposed to be snug? I guess I've put on a few pounds. Hmmm. Maybe it'll stretch. What can I even wear this with? Does that matter? Sweater are sweaters. Is this a good price? I don't know what sweaters cost. Do they have something similar elsewhere? I think I already have a couple V-necks, maybe I should get something with a regular neck. But they only have this one in a V-neck. Hmmm. I don't know, fuck this."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

I have these horrific memories of going to the thrift store with my hs friends and fighting in the aisles over velvet blazers, deliberating over dresses. That's probably part of why I really prefer to shop alone, particularly in second-hand stores.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

With books and records, I know exactly what I want, and I know it will be the same no matter what store I go to.

Really? Is that actually true? Because I find that there are vast differences between different book and record stores, so it's never the same wherever I go, and that's a good thing because I do not know exactly what I want.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Shopping is a feeling.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

For me, I buy what I want and don't worry about whether other people like it.

The crucial part of this, though, is knowing what you want.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think so. Knowing what you want takes all the fun out of it! Shopping is almost a creative endeavor.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

I love Camper shoes. Got a deal on them on-line from Bluefly once. So comfy and snazzy.

http://www.funkyshoes.net/images/products/camper/cd27205-004t.jpg

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Overthink away, I say! Re "rules", well, it's not that you can't do as you like, it's just that there's a different norm, a different flava to everyplace -- that's stupid-obvious, right? I wouldn't expect to look native in, like, Amsterdam or London or San Fran or Chicago. So I don't know what Chicago's "thing" is, I don't have a grasp of how the groups and identities break down so I don't know what messages certain items or looks would be sending.

Cue about eight people weighing in to say "but i don't use my clothing to say anything, I just get dressed!!" and i hate to break it to you but you're always saying SOMETHING, even if it's that you wish you weren't. JMZ, I don't want to fight with you about this, brotha.

Otto: LOVE THOSE.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Really? Is that actually true? Because I find that there are vast differences between different book and record stores, so it's never the same wherever I go, and that's a good thing because I do not know exactly what I want.

If I want to buy the new Sonic Youth record, it doesn't matter if I go to Reckless or Hard Boiled or Borders, they all have the exact same CD, with the same packaging and the same disc inside, and the nly difference is a couple dollars one way or another in price, which is too negligible to ever stop me from buying it.

I'm not saying I always know what I want when I go into a book or record store, but I know that when I pick something up that looks interesting, I don't have to worry that something else that fulfills the same function but is slightly different in myriad ways is available elsewhere.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

I have an old pair of Camper's very much like those.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I disagree. I enjoy exploring different options/ trying things on.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

i actually like the brown ones better but i have brown boots. i'm gonna order them.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

fuck, only the brown is instock in my size:

Sorry, but that combination is not currently available.

Please choose from one of the following available
combinations in your size range:

Size
Width
Color

UK 9 (US Womens 11, Mens10)
M
Bark, or Black

UK 10 (US Mens 11)
M
Bark

UK 11 (US Mens 12)
M
Bark, or Black

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't expect to look native in, like, Amsterdam or London or San Fran or Chicago. So I don't know what Chicago's "thing" is, I don't have a grasp of how the groups and identities break down so I don't know what messages certain items or looks would be sending.

Obviously clothes send a message, that's obvious. But the idea that different large American cities have different flavors as far as fashion goes -- especially that Chicago and NYC are that distinct enough that you can't comment on what would be appropriate here -- well, that seems kinda ridiculous.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Born shoes are nice and comfortable and look totally presentable. Earth shoes are supposed to be keen, too.

Alamo Shoes on Clark St. has good selection, but they also have HIGH PRESSURE SALES PERSONNEL who suck a lot of the fun out of shopping. Also, I have never gone in there when a small knot of high pressure sales personnel weren't gathered in the middle of the floor, bitching about how one of their number steals customers. Meanwhile, I shop, completely unnoticed... Idiots.

Hanigs Slipper Box on Clark and Division is pretty good, too.

Ooo I like Campers, but they are so expensive!

Generally, I prefer to shop alone because it takes me a long time to decide what to buy and I don't like to feel pressured.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

I agree -- it's not like there's some code and if there were, I would not want to follow it.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

oops that was an xp

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

I prefer to shop (for clothes) with people because I would never buy anything otherwise.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.zappos.com/images/718/7187782/827-39383-p.jpg

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Also, shopping and dressing are not the same thing. I enjoy dressing, but not shopping.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

J, that's the same as my internal monologue while shopping! Except you get it down a shorthand after a while, and if you feel yrself ticking off too many "doubtful" columns, you just put it back on the rack and figure it's a bad bet. I err on the side of caution unless a piece is extraordinary (or its price is). For instance if I found a crazy evening gown that I loved that fit that was on sale, even if I was all "what the FUCK do I need this for?" if it was remarkable enough that I knew I wouldn't be able to find a comparable item at-will, I wd probably buy it and put it away for some day when I needed at evening gown. But if I found a sweater that was sort of everyday-unremarkable and it just didn't work in one little way...I'd leave it in the store. Because you know you're going to get that bitch home and leave it in the drawer.

I have a big clothes rack.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/7270629/c/3/g/men/s/13.html
http://www.zappos.com/n/p/dp/8177258/c/3/g/men/s/13.html

Wow, one of the attorneys is saying "fuck" to someone on the phone A LOT, even for a labor attorney. And let me tell you, labor attorneys use the word "fuck" like Smurfs use the word "smurf."

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

I shop alone
Yeah, with nobody else
And when I shop alone
I prefer to be by myself

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

[insert joke about laurel's rack here]

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Re geography: a lot of looks will translate, sure. But I like to be on better footing than that, if I'm trying to make a specific impression.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not trying to pick a fight, either -- but do you really think if you came to Chicago wearing what you usually do in New York, people would be all, "OMG what is she wearing?"

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

I really think that if I came to NY wearing what I usually do in Chicago, people would throw rotten vegetables at me.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

NO WAI. But what, exactly, would they think of me, how would I be categorized? I like to feel in control of the impression I leave, to the max extent that it's within my control. (XP)

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Despite having been to NY on a number of occasions, I have this vision of it as being incomprehensibly fashion forward. Also I'm too fat for NY. Even when I'm skinny.

I like Chicago. We're all fat and sloppy with mustard stains on our Cubs t-shirts.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I'm revolting against this because I know a lot of really cool people who look like gigantic dorks. Thinking that they would be cast off as UNTOUCHABLE DORK is sad, because they're super cool.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think it's as simple as any of this.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

I sort of wish I were going to the ballgame Saturday, minus the rain bit. Also, I'm lazy. Are you guys seeing the Sox or Cubs? My other boyfriend is in the Sox.

I love DSW because they have all the shoes out there. You can try them on yourself without feeling bad about sending someone to the back to look for size 11s in every shoe you want.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

I think I have a pretty refined sense of the limited palette of clothes that work for me, regardless of regional styles, what I would actually like to be able to pull off, etc. It makes shopping go pretty quick.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, the gigantic dorkitude might make them more appealing to a lot of people...? I mean, "dorky" is subjective, right? Plus you might like what so-called dorkiness might mean about a person's other qualities, ex that they're busy thinking about other things/have a grandma who knits/love mustard.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

cubs game.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Certainly. It could also be that I do not enjoy talking about shopping so I'm getting pissy about it.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

The other thing is, I never desire clothes as much as I desire books and records, so I never feel like I need anything unless, like, all my socks get holes in them. It's hard for me to justify spending money on clothes. Sometimes I just hate what I have in my closet, though.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

More than anything, I would love to be Queer Eye-d.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

OH NO That would be horrible and sad. They would truss you up like a turkey.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I would love it.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.m-nomura.com/st/images/obrien.gif

"More than anything, I would love to be Queer Eye-d."

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

it scares me to think of someone judging me by my clothes because they mostly say i don't own an iron and never will, most likely. also, the stuff i like seems only to be available in black or icky colors, so i wear lots of black.

i have a love/hate relationship with shopping, because it's such a great rush to find stuff you love but so frustrating to go through so much stuff as you're looking....things that are not quite right, wrong sizes, ugly ass shit, etc. and when you're looking for something specific, you usually can't find it--but if you're lucky you find something else that just screams BUY ME and so you do.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

(I'm so sorry)

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

I think a lot of people mistake "observation" for "judgement" and now I'm going to try to shut up.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

i suppose the only thing one could observe about me by my appearance is that i really don't give a fuck about my appearance.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

true. i mostly notice people's clothing if i really like it, and otherwise don't really register that strong of an impression unless it's something really outlandish or otherwise remarkable.

xp

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Jon OTM about Laurel's grandma.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

No, the dressing-up thing is courtesy of my great-grandmother but the over-analyzing is ALL MINE.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

And jaymc brings it all back around!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

i found the boots in my size at amazon of all places.
so i got new kicks a comin'.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmm, hot turkey club, come to papi.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago, I'm sleepy. Let's take a nap.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Got up too early!

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

It's not like I did it for fun.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

I'm debating whether to get a cup of coffee. I've got yoga at 4:30 and the last time I had an afternoon cuppa before yoga I got so wired I could see through time and skipped class. But I wasn't this tired. Plus I won't get a giant three shot latte, because I've only got a dollar something.

Hmmm...

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Surely a small coffee wouldn't hurt...

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

I like the cut of your jib, soldier.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

WAIT NO SAILOR.

If you were a soldier, I'd have to like something else about you.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

"I like the design of your jeep, soldier" ?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Only sailors have jibs?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

A tank with a jib would be pretty funny.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

It's cold and grey outside. May as well make the best of it. Listen to Rufus Wainwright, feel all precious, drink warm coffee and feel my troubles melt away.

A tank with a jib would be pretty funny.

The dock wouldn't stand a chance.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Shouldn't you be at...work?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

it's wet outside as well... good thing i saw CONAN yesterday (yes caps emphasis was absolutely necessary). goodstuff. byenow.

sonore (sonore), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, what's a jib?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

Shouldn't you be at...work?

I'm doing that, too. The rain puts everybody in the same mood, though, so it's kinda sluggish around here today. Blissfully so, after the rest of this week.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

xpost A triangular sail stretching from the foretopmast head to the jib boom and in small craft to the bowsprit or the bow.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm! I never knew it was an actual thing. And I've never heard that expression ("cut of your jib") in conjunction with sailors or soldiers or anyone else.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

and here i only knew it as a scrabble word, with some sort of unknown maritime meaning.

aw, i forgot about conan last night.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Sailing is fun.

I saw the first part of Conan. Wish I could have gone to one of the tapings.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

What was on Conan?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

He did a week of shows in Chicago. Last night he had Chappelle and Common as guests.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

Huh, that's what I get for not watching tv.

I'm sort of looking forward to this:

----------MAY 26TH DUB TRIO PERFORM ON LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN---------
this performance will include Rahzel, Rob Swift, Miho Hatori, Mike Patton, and your favorite dub trio.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

i just ate a huge greasy cheeseburger with lots of onions and a baked potato side. it was pretty f'ing good. i'm losing the battle against the food coma now however.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

I used to be a pretty religious Conan-ite, but I've dropped out of the late-night game. Pretty much the only shows I catch with regularity these days are Lost, Daily Show, and Top Chef.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Surely there'll be some Concan Chicago on YouTube.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Conan, even.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc, what you don't know could fill a truck.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny. Don't be mean.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

I know that's a Les Savy Fav song!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yay!

See? I wasn't being mean. I *heart* jaymc.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Where is the sam hill is Jesse?

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Usually by now he's IMed me, emailed me, text messaged me, and left me two or more voice mail messages.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

CALL THE POLICE, HE IS CLEARLY MISSING

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

When I woke up this morning and he was missing from his basket at the foot of the bed, I knew something was amiss.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Uh, Conan is still here--there'll be another taping this afternoon and tomorrow (featured guest = Barack Obama)... stand-by tkts aren't that hard to come by if you're willing to wait hours. Anyway--Miho Hatori on Conan? ooohoh.

sonore (sonore), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

The best is when I notice that I've gotten both a voice mail and a text message within the last minute. So I listen to the voice mail, and it's Jesse saying "JOHN, IT'S JESSE. CALL ME." And then I check the text message and it says "call me now."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

tenacious little bastard.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

He's sleeping
http://www.cartoondollemporium.com/cutepuppy3.jpg

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Awwww, Jesse!

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

oh, jessepaws

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2682/1154/1600/wendi3.jpg

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Giants in their fields, all.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

JESSE IS OKAY. I REPEAT, I HAVE MADE CONTACT AND JESSE IS OKAY.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh. Too much cake. And I only had once small piece.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

hi chicago! there's no noise board! :( but there's still chicago!

i only have this to say:
jaymc should totally be queer-eyed! (and so should ned!) and the big thing he should be queer-eyed for should be a big party of some sort to which everyone is invited and he djs and gets drunk but still looks SHARP.
ok.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Someone give me $5000, and I'll help him shop for clothes.

And, and maybe another $1000 for hygeine products.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

I will "throw out" all of his records and books, to get that clean minimal apartment look.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

i also want cake.
xpost

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

If by "throw out" you mean "add to your collection"? Fine, and keep the jazz.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

i found shoes on my own so i'm going to buy myself two beers tonight.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone who wants cake come on down to Hyde Park. There's 2/3 of the thing left. It sucks 'cause that is more than I want to take home, but not enough to give the 38 or so people in my immediate office a fair share. Stupid smallish cake.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

I'm here

I

AM


HERE!!!!

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

I did not eat 1/3 of the cake, btw. I shared with my 4 "team members" who are here today.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

What flavor, Dan?

HHHHIIIII, JEEEEEESSSSEEEE!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to buy myself an hour and a half of Scottish sword torture this evening.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Receptionists don't get "team members."

As for cake, I want some, gimme some. I want some, gimme some.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Explain, Laurel.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

here

here

here

here

here

here

here

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Exactly. I'm keeping the jazz and the jazzy, and selling the indie for $$$.

xpost to laurel

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

I want cake too.

RSVP for bday fun, 2 morrow night.

it don't gotta be 'spensive, but it do gotta be fun.

--I just saw the BIGGEST boobs ever on a small-framed white girl at the library-- They were like 45 FFF

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

gimme

gimme

gimme

gimme

gimme

gimme

gimme

gimme

gimme

gimme

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Chocolate cake with way too much chocolate icing. Which, in my mind, is pretty much any icing.

xpost: Was she German? I have a friend who has a theory that German women have the biggest boobs. It's a pretty stupid theory.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

xpost That was for cake, btw. Not boobs.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

BS

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

boobs

boobs

boobs

boobs

boobs

boobs

boobs

boobs

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

boobs.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, boobs, is there anything you can't do?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, I'm only abusingamusing myself.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

German chocolate boobs?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

it's definitely spring, isn't it.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, we're doing a 6-step sword dance for a street fest on May 20 and it kills. The whole thing is manic and very launch-self-in-air, and after we get through it the first time, our teacher says, "again, and this time, fix these problems" and we do. Lather/rinse/repeat until I think I might vomit.

On the other hand, it's a totally fantastic dance and we love it. It just kicks my ass.

Am I alone in preferring the word "tits"?

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

How does "yabbos" hit you?

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

hoots

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

tits.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

gazongas

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

cunt-accompaniments

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

Count me out on "tits".

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

Am I alone in preferring the word "tits"?

Depends on the context. "Boobs" is a word I feel like I can use in mixed company and nobody gets offended. "Tits" is what I'd use if I were actually talking dirty.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

fun bags
sweater meat
cans
rack
bombs

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

cupcakes

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

boobs

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to John Yes. Boobs are funny.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

C on T's & A.O.T.P

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

booze

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc OTM

boobs are almost comical but tits are serious bidness.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

why will no one answer my email in which i desperately seek attention?

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

tits : boobs :: cock : weiner

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

i had some frozen yourgurt but now i want cake.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Weiner? I would say "dick."

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

"Boobs" is just so...5th grade, it makes me feel like the speaker has never actually SEEN one. Plus "tits" is good for "Annoying Thing X really gets on my tits" which is totally better than "gets on my nerves". Although possibly not as good as "works my last nerve", which I've only heard in and around New York but I do quite like.

I'm good with "rack", too.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

Weiner? I would say "dick."

"Dick" is probably a bit too explicit, though. Not as much as "cock," but more so than "boobs."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

"Boobs" is just so...5th grade, it makes me feel like the speaker has never actually SEEN one.

Most of the people I know who use the word "boobs" are women.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

No, I'd say cock:weiner::tits:boobs. I can imagine dirty talk going "Suck my dick" but not "suck my weiner," just as I can take seriously "cum on my tits" but not "cum on my boobs."

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

tits has long been a word used to convey the awesomeness of something. like "the dirtbombs/black lips show was tits".

it was also used to describe something that was easy, usually a class or test, when i was in high school and college. oddly enough it was always the singular "tit" as in "you'll have no problem with that econ test, it was tit."

rack is great.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

Boobs does seem more family-friendly than tits.

Laurel, what do you mean by a 6 step sword dance? Like 6 sword moves that keep repeating?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

ROFFLE "suck my weiner"

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

seriously, we either need to find me a girlfriend or change the subject immediately.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

yeh baby, stroke that big hard weiner. you like that weiner in your mouth? get that weiner nice and wet--that's right, put that wet weiner in your boo-boo.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

First you want shoes, now it's girls, what next?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

He wants to be King.

Does anyone remember that story "The Fisherman and His Wife"? This guy goes to talk to a magic fish to appease his wife's increasingly demanding wishes and eventually they end up living in a pigsty?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hm, yeah. I guess I only like the actual anatomical terms and, at the opposite end, the quite dirty ones. Everything in between feels like getting caught sneaking cookies while you thought yr mother was upstairs: embarrassing.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

roffle at jesse. "boo-boo" takes it over the top.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, there's this point where the guy goes to the fish and wearily says "She wants to be King". I had an cassette with this story on it and I can still sing the little song that the man sang to the fish.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Otto: just pick one from yr myspace list and get to work.

Jordan: it means there are 6 distinct "steps" in the dance, each with an equal number of measures but with different stylistic emphasis, meaning the pattern of footwork/positioning/pacing and also the musical phrasing will change at those breaks.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

There's also this weird point at which actual anatomical terms become dirty because you don't ever say them and so in certain contexts it's almost transgressive!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

my wants are modest! modest i say!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

I know, I was just trying to change the subject.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

laurel, that has worked with mixed results. but that does remind me of something.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

work that pooper on my stick....oh girl, you know what i like, that thing being your poo-poo on my dink. take my boner! yeh, take that hard boner in you pooper! guns going off.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

let me rub your boobies while i play with your bug too!

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

boner! almost as good as stiffy.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

bug? You're losing me here.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.outpost-daria.com/images/diarrhea.jpg

Can I touch your boobs?

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

girls have a bug. i think i got that from Stpehen King's It.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

stephen

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

bug = clit? or the whole kit and caboodle?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

yourgurt:

shot yourgurt on my boobies

xpost--bug=puss

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

No, you got "bug" from my grandmother.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

(rub my caboodle)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

fuck, can't type

SHOOT yourgurt on my boobies

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

diddle my kitten

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Cuckoo's nest

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

diddle my kitten caboodle.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

I used to refer to people as coolies until someone told me that coolies are coochies in some places.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

"Bug" refers to male and female genitals, and the whole package, not just a particular part.

To illustrate, I went to see The Nutcracker ballet with my grandmother when I was, OH, eleven, and during one of the dude's solo numbers, she leaned over and stage-whispered to me, "I can see his bug right through those tights!"

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

undercarriage

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Follow up quote:

"It's like somebody taped a little checker in his pants!"

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Kitten caboose?

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

mairzy doats and doazy doats and little lamzy divey

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

I thought coolies = Chinese railroad workers? I feel like Jenny and I have talked about this.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

There's a noodle in my strudel

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.epinions.com/images/opti/a2/b0/85345-resized200.jpg

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

coolie--romance languages have similar-sounding words--coul in French and culo in Spanish and something similar in Italian. I knew some Italians in NC (Godino's) who said to their kid, "wipe your coolie."

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't there a reggaeton song called "Culo"?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

"that's right, wipe that hot little coolie, you stinky little person. wipe that coolie and sign this NAMBLA membership card. oh yeh...that's frickin' hot."

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

how would I know a reggaeton song title?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, John, we've had that conversation. And because I know the Italians of which Jesse speaks, I can totally see an admonition to "wipe your coolie" resulting in the kids towelling off a chinaman.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

CHICAGO I HAVE LOST MY WAY IN THIS PAPER AND I KNOW NOT WHAT TO DO.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

true, as they had adopted a number of chinese babies.

i'm going to work.

gdmfsobcs

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

the kids towelling off a chinaman.

that sounds vaguely disgusting.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Oh by the way, Amanda, I like "cupcakes" for the fair-to-middlin' sized and "sunny side ups" for the little ones. What is it about food metaphors?

BYE JESSE

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

From a Puerto Rican slang site:

"Mamame el bicho = Suck my dick (use 'la crica' instead of 'el bicho' if you're a girl)"

(That last part is handy.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

I found a beautiful brassiere in the street the other day, lace and ribbons and all.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

It was right outside of a karaoke-nightly bar in Wrigleyville, one where they might even have bras up above the bar. 36B - up for grabs.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, that's totally my size.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

we've really, really got to change the subject. i'm begging you.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Is it push-up or molded-cup? I will pass unless it's completely unpadded.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

I found a beautiful brassiere in the street the other day, lace and ribbons and all . . . It was right outside of a karaoke-nightly bar in Wrigleyville.

There's a poem in there somewhere. Where's Dave at?

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

It's completely unpadded - it's very simple. I'd be glad to send this lingerie through the mail to someone I've never met in person.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

It has the wordiness of a good Paul Simon lyric, Jenny.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, we can discuss a law and conomics analysis of the commodification of women's household labor and how that will remedy workplace discrimination against mothers, if you want.

xpost - I said don't I know you from the bra I found in front of a bar in Wrigleyvill? She said who am I to go against the wind...

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, you picked it up and kept it?

(xpost) OMG Jenny I was just about to quote that song

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

Just because I like that he uses the word "cinematographer" in a song (yeah yeah Will Oldham, Modest Mouse, etc.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

I pocketed it - it's clean and beautiful.

I think I should throw lingerie at the audience at my shows - that's a progressive man for you.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

http://events.clowningaround.com/images/Lookalike%20Photos/tom%20jones.jpg

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, we can discuss a law and conomics analysis of the commodification of women's household labor and how that will remedy workplace discrimination against mothers, if you want.

yes, that should do the trick actually.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.kysfm.com/javier/Fotos/Especiales/Bob%20Seger.jpg

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I would be happy to email you this paper. It's a guaranteed boner-killer.

John, when he said "wordy" and "Paul Simon" it's the first thing I thought of. I really like that song.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

Do people throw panties at Bob Seeger? Or, god help us, does Bob Seeger throw panties at his audience?

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

He's runnin' against the wind.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

i swear to god i'll read that paper.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

I use words like "normative" and "prescriptive" and "valuation" and "destigmatize."

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

... but never, ever "tits."

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I do quote Richard Posner...

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

as long as you don't use the words "boobs" or "rack" i think i'll be fine.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

How 'bout weiner.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

i think i'll be visiting the tavern on the way home tonight.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

"Once again, law and economics fails to speak to the wiener, this time by embracing a status quo that structurally oppresses tits by relegating them to the boobs sphere and ejecting them from the boo boo."

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

i just sent an ill-advised e-mail. YUP, STILL MAKIN' POOR CHOICES.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

now you're just taunting me.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Don't let the wienerschnitzel go to your head, man.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

and ejecting them from the boo boo

What is this, one night in Bangkok?

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Hush, Kevin. It's not like yr the only one of us without immediate prospects. But do *I* go making announcements and stirring up trouble on a public forum??? I...do? Oh right. Nevermind!

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Do you two have each other's IM handles? Something tells me you'd have a lot to talk about. Or at least one thing.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

I just used the word "valorizing."

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

http://hitparade.ch/cdimg/amerie-1_thing_s.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, Jenny, I love when I'm writing stuff and awesome words just suddenly come to me -- even better when they're appropriate!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just being a pain in the neck, actually. I'm stuck at the office for another 2.5 hours with piles of boring paperwork to do.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

it's just really complicated.
there are prospects, their immediacy is debateable but they are there. but there are situations, complications.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

valorizing vainglorious victories

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

I am bored enough that I made a list of things to download when I get home. New records from:

Jolie Holland
Howe Gelb
Donald Fagen
J Dilla/Jay Dee
Vitalic

I have a hot evening of theft ahead of me.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, add the Guardian Ricky Gervais podcasts to your list. Unless you hate him. Or unless you already have them. They are brightening my day again today.

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

i just saw my hair in the bathroom mirror and i've got a total dylan goes electric afro/birds nest going on.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

My hair is getting pretty curly/frizzed-out now, too.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

i think going out into the wind for that 3:15 cigarette was the killing blow.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Well, the rain in general.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

I just got all the Jew cut out of my hair yesterday, so my style is INVINCIBLE.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not wearing a jacket and I don't have an umbrella, so I think a cab home might be a wise investment.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

I couldn't find my umbrella this morning!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

My housemate broke mine trying to extend it. JACKASS

Holy makkara, Toivo! (OutDatWay), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

chicago i am soaked. someone please come over and bring me chicken soup. and swaddling. it's so cold and i'm drenched to the bone.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

Hot shower and dry clothes is the prescription for that. Maybe a stiff drink.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

I took a cab, but it cost me $12 and took nine years to get home, because apparently everyone in the city had the same idea.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

no booze for me tonight, i feel miserable enough already.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

A hot toddy, maybe?

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

NO BOOZE!


maybe a gin & tonic later.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

um... that's booze.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

I prescribe soup and something starchy. I'm making tater tots.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

I like to think of the number of new answers on the Chicago threads as a year in history. I predict that Columbus is going to land in America at about 10:00 tomorrow morning.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

I like small shoes

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, are you making tater tots from a bag are is this a homemade recipe?

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

Uff. I stuck with this j Dilla album for about 20 minutes, but NO MORE. DUDE, YOU'RE GETTING ON MY DAMN NERVES. YEAH, YEAH, SOUL BEAT, SLY REFERENCE, 45 SECOND SONG, I FUCKING GET IT.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

weird you mention tater tots, i just busted open a bag of them. god bless you people of the ore-ida companies. they were good.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

And the first song off the new Donald Fagen is limp as a dishrag.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

I made popcorn in a brown paper bag and ate it for dinner.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

The AMG Pick of the Day for me was this:

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:zefm962o3ep6

They're right. It's a great record. Us singer-songwritery types may understand best.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Types or lovers, I meant. I'm not a type, as I do not sing or write songs.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

I think the album may have flopped because of his choice of wardrobe for the cover photo.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

Mr. Martin. I think we have the same pair of black shoes.

I like cans.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 11 May 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

We forgot tah-tahs, which I like because it has such a nice cadence.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

Decibel is a great place, I have decided. I'm going to take my turntable in next week, and they'll do what they call a "run-through," which involves cleaning it and seeing how well it works and telling me what's wrong with it. If I choose to have a full job done on it, the $20 counts toward my repair. I'm hoping all I need is a new needle and a cleaning. I'll likely be given bad news, but I could easily be convinced to sink a little more money into this turntable. It's marble, fer chrissakes.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 23:56 (nineteen years ago)

My turntable is made out of paper.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 12 May 2006 00:23 (nineteen years ago)

Well, then, no need to have it cleaned and repaired.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 12 May 2006 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

DISPOSABLE TURNTABLES! IT'S THE SECOND VINYL REVOLUTION!

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Friday, 12 May 2006 00:26 (nineteen years ago)

My tater tots definitely come from a bag, and I have determined that "extra crispy" (read: fried longer) are considerably more tasty than the regular kind. I used to enjoy crispy crowns, but have come back to tots.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 May 2006 01:05 (nineteen years ago)

I got my new (used) Diamanda Galas CD in the mail today! (Vena Cava)

I'm settling in with a cup of chamomile tea, the oven is on medium and Diamanda is a'screechin' and a'keenin'.

I hope the neighbors have the TV turned up....

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 01:51 (nineteen years ago)

There's a wee mousey in our housey!

Jeff's trying to catch the teeny little bugger with a measuring cup and a spoon full of peanut butter to save it from the marauding horde of cats scratching at the bedroom door.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

OMG we caught it! It was like the size of the first joint of my thumb!

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 12 May 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

I have grown weary of this thread.

It's time for....

Chicago: This Is Grand.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 02:10 (nineteen years ago)

Flush it. Flush it. Flush everything.

dissonance in the divine accord (unclejessjess), Friday, 12 May 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

four years pass...

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/July-2010/Top-40-Chicago-Words-Our-Contributions-to-the-English-Language/

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:30 (fifteen years ago)

eleven years pass...

Hey Chicago ilxors, what's the weather like there right now? I'm planning to fly in today and out tomorrow, and I just saw there's a winter weather advisory, but my weather app isn't showing any snow predicted, so I'm confused. Trying to figure out if this trip is a really dumb idea and I'm risking getting stuck there.

Lily Dale, Saturday, 29 January 2022 14:54 (three years ago)

I'm immediately north of Chicago (pretty much directly east of O'Hare) and it's mildy cloudy and not doing anything atm (and not supposed to do anything for the rest of the day). There's like a couple feet of snow on the ground from the past week, though.

When the Pain That You Feel is the Bite of an Eel, That's a Moray (Old Lunch), Saturday, 29 January 2022 15:08 (three years ago)

Well, maybe not a couple of feet. Maybe 6" or 8" in places? I think it's supposed to gradually warm up a little over the weekend, too. Right now it's sunny and really clear. Anyway, no advisory in effect here, afaict. Just a nice winter day. You won't get stuck.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 January 2022 17:02 (three years ago)

You're fine. And it's a mild 22 degrees. Enjoy!

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Saturday, 29 January 2022 17:26 (three years ago)

Thanks everyone! So glad I made the trip. The Boatmen show was great, and even just walking around near the show was really cool bc I've only been to Chicago once and that was when I was nineteen on a college visit, so it's all new to me. I wish I didn't have to fly out again tomorrow morning; I'll have to come back someday when I have an actual vacation. If I had more time and it weren't for Omicron, I would have asked if anyone wanted to meet up.

Lily Dale, Sunday, 30 January 2022 05:26 (three years ago)

Hopefully another time! I was in that same area this afternoon (saw The Conversation for the first time). And yeah, still tiptoeing socially with Omicron happening — glad the show was a comfortable experience.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Sunday, 30 January 2022 05:34 (three years ago)

Not exactly comfortable, but fun. I took off my mask for part of it, which probably wasn't smart, but it was hard to talk to anyone and be heard with it on. And I was right up at the front and kept thinking about what it must be like for the band to look out at masked faces from the stage and not be able to see people smiling. So I may well get covid from this trip, and maybe the whole thing was colossally dumb, but god it felt good to make a new memory for once.

Lily Dale, Sunday, 30 January 2022 05:50 (three years ago)

Ain't that the truth.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 January 2022 14:12 (three years ago)

There's a wee mousey in our housey!Jeff's trying to catch the teeny little bugger with a measuring cup and a spoon full of peanut butter to save it from the marauding horde of cats scratching at the bedroom door.


https://i.ibb.co/ZWrvqD0/8799-B11-F-5-BCA-43-E5-99-BE-B930-C98-E1-BBD.jpg

Jeff, Sunday, 30 January 2022 16:05 (three years ago)

wow, that is just a little guy! hope you found a way to persuade it not to return, or insure it doesn't, depending on your inclinations

I had a mouse in the house this week that was helpfully cornered by the cat. I was afraid there was a second one yesterday, but he was merely chasing imaginary mice.

mh, Sunday, 30 January 2022 16:18 (three years ago)

Put that mouse in here:

3D cat aquarium.. 😅 pic.twitter.com/lZRtCvom4j

— Buitengebieden (@buitengebieden_) January 30, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 January 2022 17:24 (three years ago)

So if I'm understanding it correctly, we should expect somewhere between (checks) three and 22 inches of snow tonight? It's 45 degrees right now, hard to believe much of the first wave will stick.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 18:28 (three years ago)

It seems to be trending south, but yeah, it looks like the impacts for us are still up in the air.

Personally I hope it's light, we got stuck right in that tiny little pocket that got absolutely walloped during Friday's storm. Went to bed Thursday night with a 1-2" forecast, we ended up with eleven inches.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 18:57 (three years ago)

Aaaaand ... most recent forecast I saw said maybe light snow over night. I mean, yeah, it's still in the '40s out there.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 21:59 (three years ago)

I mean, Pritzker preemptively declaring a disaster before it even starts is a good sign that it might be underwhelming, but who knows. I've seen the same, but I keep getting increasingly panicked sounding emails from work about the imminent "huge winter storm".

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:16 (three years ago)

The uncertainty is screwing with my plans to see Ghost Dog at the Music Box at 7.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:32 (three years ago)

Given the current temperatures, I would think it's not going to get that bad until much later tonight. It sounds like tomorrow morning is when things will be worse, if it were me I'd still be willing to head out for a 7 o'clock showing.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 22:37 (three years ago)

Yeah, what would Ghost Dog do? He'd see the movie.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 February 2022 23:01 (three years ago)

Haha

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Tuesday, 1 February 2022 23:54 (three years ago)

Hmm, looks like ... maybe 4-inches here? They preemptively made school remote, a covid-era, snow-day negating development my kids do not appreciate.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 13:14 (three years ago)

Still coming down, though. Maybe ultimately another couple of inches on top of that?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 14:22 (three years ago)

Ha, my son was super excited to have a remote snow day today, especially since it was already supposed to only be a half day. I probably shoveled about 5-6 inches this morning and it's still coming down.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 16:57 (three years ago)

I think the schools deciding to go remote was more about the timing of the worst parts of the snowfall than it was the anticipated accumulation, at least on the north side.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 16:58 (three years ago)

Just saw an Edible Arrangements van get stuck in the snow. Talk about adding insult to injury. At least they won't starve.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:56 (three years ago)

Some preliminary reports that we're at about 8.5" here so far, which wouldn't surprise me given that it is still coming down. That puts us within half an inch or so of 20 total inches since Thursday night. Thank god it warmed up enough yesterday to melt some of it.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 18:59 (three years ago)

one month passes...

Chicago pizza lives up to the hype

mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 21:53 (three years ago)

Is this tavern style (which seems to be taking over in hip cities) or deep dish?

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 22:15 (three years ago)

The latter, ofc. So good.

mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 22:16 (three years ago)

It is, it is!

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 22:17 (three years ago)

I've been about half-time in Portland this past year, and it's funny to go all the way there to find a tavern-style pizza called The Steve Dolinsky.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 22:19 (three years ago)

I am not sure why but I thought it would be doughy but it really isn’t. The sauce is revelatory.

mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 22:38 (three years ago)

Yeah, it's generally pretty chunky and flavorful. I think that's an underrated aspect of Chicago style, that the crust and sauce are equally important. In a lot of thin crust pizza the sauce is almost an afterthought.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 22:57 (three years ago)

Which place did you get it at?!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 22:58 (three years ago)

Lou’s & Giordanos. I thought Giordanos had the better crust but Lou’s the better sauce. They were both great though.

mardheamac (gyac), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 23:00 (three years ago)

Interesting, I think Lou's has the better crust and Giordano's the better sauce, lol! But they're both really good standbys that you can find all over, as opposed to places with only a couple of locations, like Pequod's. I find that because Chicago style is so deep and sturdy, it really supports quality toppings, too, because you don't have to worry about them weighing down or falling off a slice you're picking up.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 23:37 (three years ago)

Actually, I take that back, it's been a while since I've had Giordano's. Lou's sauce is pretty chunky, I want to say Giordano's is ... spicier? Maybe I am thinking of Edwardo's. Giordano's crust might be crunchier/more carmalized?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 23:40 (three years ago)

"Lou’s & Giordanos. I thought Giordanos had the better crust but Lou’s the better sauce. They were both great though."

I concur.
This is 1st I've heard about tavern style being trendy. Hope it makes its way to AZ! I can get Lou's and Giordano's in Phoenix but have yet to find Chicago thin crust anywhere. Well apart from home run inn and Connie's frozen pizzas which doesn't really count (thought Connie's is my favorite frozen pizza). Usually get it from a place by my parents' home when I go back for visits, but we keep meaning to make a pilgrimage to Vitos and Nick's so that might happen when I return in May.
The only food place that's a must do whenever I visit is Freddy's in Cicero.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 23:47 (three years ago)

(My sister loves Freddy's pizza but I always stick to other items. I've had bites of it tho and it's good Sicilian style)

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 23:49 (three years ago)

I live 10 minutes from Freddy's, it's so good that their pizza isn't even their top draw, though the pizza is great. I'm a huge fan of their Margherita and, when they have it, the calamari pizza. But their pastas and meatballs and sausages and gelato ... man, everything at this place. Sandwiches and arancini and chicken and ...

Fun Freddy's story that shows how awesome they are. They're a cash-only mom and pop place, and sort of in the middle of nowhere. I had a neighbor that had never been, so I made him go. He went there but had no idea it was cash-only, and came up short. They told him don't worry about it, just bring the rest the money tomorrow. Who does that!?!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 March 2022 23:58 (three years ago)

Aw that's great. My sis is a few minutes away as well, in Oak Park. The owner (Anne Marie I think; co owns it with her husband) is very sweet to her, let her pay by check once, plus gave her the secret phone number lol. Always gotta have their arancini but I usually try different main dishes because yeah everything is good. And the gelato! Best I've ever had.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 00:31 (three years ago)

one month passes...

I'm in town this week til wednesday night. Anyone feel like getting some dinner tonight or tomorrow? I can't eat a whole pizza or whatever else by myself!

DJI, Monday, 11 April 2022 19:06 (three years ago)

Well, pequod’s is killer.

DJI, Monday, 11 April 2022 23:13 (three years ago)

Which pizza place is the one that offers a sausage pizza in which one piece of sausage covers the entire crust? It's a sausage layer.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 11 April 2022 23:16 (three years ago)

two weeks pass...

Do people still live here?
I'm in Chicago until Sunday night

I wonder if FAP is still fappening..

Covfefe and TV (ken c), Friday, 29 April 2022 21:15 (three years ago)

Sorry I missed you DJI

Covfefe and TV (ken c), Friday, 29 April 2022 21:16 (three years ago)

A bunch of us, but most of us are old, tired, or have Covid. But enjoy your stay!

Jeff, Saturday, 30 April 2022 22:55 (three years ago)

I'm playing at the Green Mill jazz club tonight :)

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 30 April 2022 23:01 (three years ago)

Cool! Say hello to Kurt Elling if he happens to be there too.

Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 April 2022 23:39 (three years ago)

two months pass...

Hey Chicago! Will be in town this coming weekend (Thurs-Sun) with the family, looking for any recommendations beyond the obvious. I've been to the city several times including twice last year, but not with my kids, so thinking especially of things that high school boys would find interesting. We'll do the Field and Art Institute, most likely, probably a river tour, but beyond that (and one day at the Pitchfork fest) we're pretty unplanned. Oldest son is a vinyl hound, so good record stores are welcome. Also any good arcades/barcades? Hipster hangouts? We'll probably hit Quimby's, but any other shops to consider?

Also, feel free to hit us with dining tips in the non-fancy category.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 10 July 2022 16:40 (three years ago)

For bar/arcade, we like going to Lucky Strike up by Wrigley. The place is huge, so even on day game days, it’s not too crowded if you go early.

I’m too old to know any hipster hangouts.

Jeff, Sunday, 10 July 2022 17:00 (three years ago)

Right by Quimby's is Peace Pizza/brewery, which is actually New Haven style, and good. Owned by Rick Nielsen from Cheap Trick. Reckless Records is right there, the more exotic Dusty Groove not far.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 July 2022 17:08 (three years ago)

Cool, I thought that neighborhood would have other good things. We stayed not too far from there last fall. And good to know about Lucky Strike! That's an excuse to take them to at least see the ballpark. (After weighing the cost of game tix vs. everybody else in the family's indifference to baseball, I skipped on see a game.)

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 10 July 2022 17:18 (three years ago)

It’s worth it for the vibes to walk around the neighborhood on game day. Even when the Cubs are terrible.

Jeff, Sunday, 10 July 2022 17:22 (three years ago)

Get jibaritos at Jibaritos y Mas
Go to Pilsen and visit the Mexican art museum/walk around/eat food
There are lots of fun food vendors at Pfork too
Have fun!!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Sunday, 10 July 2022 18:55 (three years ago)

Actually, if you want to do something truly special and surprisingly easy, kayak on the river. It's a great way to see the city. My fave route is to start down in Chinatown, make your way up north to the city, take a bunch of cool pictures, then return to Chinatown for lunch or bubble tea.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 10 July 2022 19:01 (three years ago)

Emporium is a fun barcade (at Milwaukee/Fullerton location is my favorite, but others are good too), as is Logan Arcade.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Sunday, 10 July 2022 19:01 (three years ago)

Both those are 21+ though.

Jeff, Sunday, 10 July 2022 19:11 (three years ago)

If you’re near Logan Arcade or the Milwaukee/Fullerton Emporium, check out Record Breakers. A few doors down from that is Bric-a-Brac, which has lots of kitschy toys, some records, cassettes, VHS tapes, and Simpsons arcade machine. Attached to it is a horror-themed coffee shop called The Brewed (a play on the David Cronenberg film).

blatherskite, Monday, 11 July 2022 15:43 (three years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7chicago.com/amp/victory-auto-wreckers-closing-commercial-bensenville/14019113/

Victory had over seven acres of used parts 😢

omar little, Tuesday, 7 November 2023 21:14 (one year ago)

Damn, that really is an icon gone. Not a car guy but I always thought it would have been cool to trawl around there for a bit.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 November 2023 22:27 (one year ago)

nine months pass...

So I (an ex-Chicagoan) have a little time to kill in the city next week (not convention-related good god), and kind of want to pick local brains for any EVENTS OF NOTE happening? Normally when I’m back I just revisit the same things I did 20 years ago — could afford to see something new!

ን (nabisco), Friday, 16 August 2024 01:26 (one year ago)

Dude, we’re all too old for events now.

Jeff, Friday, 16 August 2024 02:00 (one year ago)

This is what literary readings are for!

ን (nabisco), Friday, 16 August 2024 02:54 (one year ago)

I just checked out the Bib Gourmand list, some interesting possibilities there. I think I know the owners of one place, La Josie. If true, that blows my mind. (They are past owners of one or more Taquerias las Comales locations and I met them at Chicago Fire games.)

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Friday, 16 August 2024 03:13 (one year ago)

I like events! But I don't know of any off the top of my head.

jaymc, Friday, 16 August 2024 03:16 (one year ago)

How long are you going to be around for?

jaymc, Friday, 16 August 2024 03:18 (one year ago)

Mostly just Tuesday to Thursday. And I did my usual Wicker Park nostalgia rounds — Rainbo, Bottle, Myopic, etc — last summer! Maybe it’s Uptown this year

ን (nabisco), Friday, 16 August 2024 03:47 (one year ago)

No presh or anything, but if you wanna meet up for a drink at somewhere like Larry's, I'm around.

jaymc, Friday, 16 August 2024 03:57 (one year ago)

I'll drop you an email as I figure out where I'm staying / what I'm doing!

Ironically enough the one "event" I actually do feel too old for is ... going to the Metro to see Built to Spill play "There's Nothing Wrong with Love."

ን (nabisco), Friday, 16 August 2024 15:08 (one year ago)


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