this is a thread for the only sporting event worth following in the coming month, ie ROLAND GARROS 2006

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Draws came out this morning (it was very exciting watching them unfold with this new-fangled computerised system, with names zooming all over the place on my screen!)

In the men's tournament all eyes are surely on the potential Federer v Nadal final. A win for Fedge would mean that not only would he hold all four Slam crowns simultaneously, but that he would be halfway to completing the Grand Slam itself. Unfortunately he has a pretty significant obstacle in the form of young Rafael, who seems to have a clay-court winning streak stretching back forever (currently on 53 matches, tied with Vilas for the all-time record - if he wins his first match he gets the record to himself). And even more ominously, Nadal has beaten Federer in all three finals they've faced off in this year so far, and holds a 5-1 career record over the man who is otherwise as close to invincible as it's possible to get.

Potential spoilers of this grand narrative: none, to be honest. Nalbandian and Safin have the talent but not the head/health yadda yadda yadda; Almagro, Acasuso and Robredo are in extremely hot clay form at the moment which means that they might be able to win a set off Fed/Nad if they play them.

Women's draw is far more wide open - it's a pity that the two favourites (Justine Henin-Hardenne, for past form, and Nadia Petrova, for current form ie she is yet to be beaten on clay this year) have been drawn to meet in the quarters. This is better for Petrova - she may have beaten JHH in the Berlin final t'other week, but she's unproven in the latter stages of a Slam, and the sooner she gets to play her the less likely it is that she'll get nervous. OR you could ignore them both and go old-school for a potential Venus Williams v Martina Hingis final!

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

I'll swap you Roger Federer for one Nalbandian shiny.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:48 (nineteen years ago)

It's Safin I'm missing :(

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

oh good there's only a two day overlap between this and the world cup.

Shame about Wimbledon huh :-)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

they can't sacrifice any of wimbledon for the world cup! they MUSTN'T. wimbledon is TRADITION.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

ha! well by the time wimbledon starts it'll be in the last stages of the world cup anyway - don't worry.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:54 (nineteen years ago)

yes it is unlikely england will still be around then innit.

my Roland Garros q-f predictions:

Mauresmo v V.Williams
Safina v Kuznetsova
Henin-Hardenne v Petrova
Hingis v Clijsters

Federer v Acasuso
Nalbandian d Davydenko
O.Rochus v Ferrer
whoever wins the Gonzalez/Safin opener v Nadal

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 26 May 2006 10:55 (nineteen years ago)

Hooray. This wasn't on TV here last year, but I think it will be this time and and and and I have no work and nothing better to do so I will hopefully watch all of it.

Hard to see Nadal losing, innit?

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno - on paper yes, BUT Federer is getting closer and closer to beating him on clay (had match points in their last match). I would probably give a slight edge to Nadal but wouldn't be surprised if either won.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

Nadal could lose earlier conceivably, Federer won't. I know the winning streak and all, but clay court dudes are unpredictable (see Puerta, there are lots of past examples). I could see Nadal going down. (Haven't looked at the draw yet). I'm rooting for him though!

There's a new espn blog with an entry about the perspective of Nadal's streak from a couple days ago. Blog is sort of apologist so far, like 'take your medicine', here's why you should care if you normally watch baseball.

http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=goldstein_paul&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fespn%2fblog%2findex%3fname%3dgoldstein_paul

mcd (mcd), Friday, 26 May 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

I started a thread for this this morning, without the football-baiting title. :(

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 28 May 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

Federer pinches the first set vs Hartfield 7-5 - whaddya reckon he'll rip thru the next two for the loss of three games?

As for the World Cup, I think we can forget about Wimbledon BBCi extra courts/live scoring if there are any clashes with England matches - all that precious bandwidth will be needed for Alan Green R5L commentary and tedious stats.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 28 May 2006 10:59 (nineteen years ago)

BAH IT IS NOT ON FREE-TO-AIR TV HERE AND I AM FUCKING PISSED.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 28 May 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

tennis is duller than your grandma's panties at the best of times

BUT TENNIS ON CLAY? UGHHHHHHHHHH

The Notorious ESTEBAN BUTTEZ (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 28 May 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand your rationale? How might clay make it worse for you?

Lara (Lara), Sunday, 28 May 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

Presumably because two people hitting a ball back and forth is the dull essence of tennis and the rallies go on for so much longer on clay (once upon a time, men's tennis was "dull" because there were no rallies on anything other than clay). But who cares what Fucknut thinks, really?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 28 May 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

McEnroe went apeshit on Grass, Hardcourt and Rebound Ace.

BUT NEVER CLAY!

The Notorious ESTEBAN BUTTEZ (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 28 May 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

"Apeshit" in this context meaning what? He totally lost it at the French on a few occasions - vs Testerman in r1 1983, in the midst of the infamous Lendl final the following year; he imploded against Wilander in the quarters one year - throwing away 23 straight points.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 28 May 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

But not Total Apeshit.

Geez, don't you know any tennis terms? Go back to the concrete courts or stick to the Strawberries & Cream, will ya?

The Notorious ESTEBAN BUTTEZ (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 28 May 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, you're forgetting about McEnroe going Truly Crazy Ape-bonkers On All Fours on indoor carpet, like smashing the fuck out of his courtside seat in Stockholm one year vs Jarryd, or verbally abusing Brad Gilbert across the net at Madison Square Garden (before losing so dismally he had to pack the sport in for eight months).

Maybe McEnroe's problem with clay was that the ball tends to leave a mark, so less room for disputes (though it does lend an extra edge for the paranoiac - "You're looking at the wrong mark, man! You KNOW that wasn't the shot I'm talking about!").

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 28 May 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

washington-sharapova ws marvellous!

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Sunday, 28 May 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

tennis on clay is the best kind of tennis!

not that i saw any of it today, suffering from a triple whammy of a) forgetting it was starting early this year, b) inability to move from bed until 4pm due to hangover and c) er not having a tv let alone the right channels anyway.

i'm shocked that sharapova had so much trouble with washington even despite her lack of preparation - washington has been awful all season and got even worse when the tour hit clay. i think safarova will take the shazbot out in the third - if she doesn't safina will destroy her in the fourth.

though i wouldn't be surprised if benesova gets her first! benesova is one of those players i can't figure out at all, she has so many bad, heavy losses every year but every so often pulls something big out of her sleeve eg beating pierce in australia this year.

londoners, do you know of ANY pubs in this city of ours which might conceivably show this on tv?

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 28 May 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

i was a bit surprised to see that fed is bitching about the start time - he's never usually one to throw "I AM THE WORLD NO 1 EVERYTHING MUST REVOLVE AROUND ME" hissy fits.

oh look fabrice santoro in marathon five-setter SHOCKER!

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 28 May 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

washington played really well, totally unlike her ranking, had her on the ropes and then got cold feet.

the finals are on the 10th and 11th - i assume every pub will have the world cup on :-) xp

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Sunday, 28 May 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

got to see the last set of santoro v acasuso - fantastic! santoro was utterly bamboozling acasuso for a while, throwing all this crazy nonsense spinny stuff at him - there was one incredible point when he was pretty much off screen, retrieving these massive overheads, but finally got a reply deep enough to sprint up to the net himself and win the point with a stop volley. shame he lost.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 29 May 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

I've seen nothing aside from one slapped return winner from the Clidge on Sky Sports News.

Massu blew a two-set lead vs Malisse but then recovered from a double-break deficit in the decider to nudge through 9-7; Kirsten Flipkens beat Virginie Pichet in the cutesiest match-up of round one - they both sound like characters in a whimsical CBBC exchange-student drama. Or bunnies. Greg R is offering token resistance vs Mink DeVille while our Golden Wonder Starace is out, blowing a two set lead like a berk.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 29 May 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Tick one round off on the countdown to the final between the guy who never loses except to that one guy and that one guy - Nadal overcomes a second-set blip to liquidate Soderling in three.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 29 May 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

that trophy - if you can call it that - presented to Nadal for his achievement in setting a new record for unbeaten games on clay sure ws something.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Monday, 29 May 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

It just occurred to me that "Allez Monfils!" translates as "Come on, my son!"

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 09:32 (nineteen years ago)

haha. i love monfils, i wish he and murray weren't playing in the first round (though i wish i was watching the match more than that).

myskina through in easy straight sets over mirza: relief! mirza is shit on clay but lately there has been no match so easy that anastasia can't manage to fuck it up. hingis through in straight sets: hurrah! also hurrah at the unblunted tongue - in the press conference she was asked to gauge her level, and her reply was along the lines of "when you're playing someone like lisa raymond you can't tell very much".

haas shuttles schuttler out of the tournament in straight sets - that australian open final seems a long way away now, doesn't it rainer? - while the most famous cypriot in the world (possibly) also off to a good start over portas. robby ginepri's slump continues - maybe that us open semi-final last year was the worst thing to happen to his career, as he's won all of three matches this year so far.

kaia kanepi was a junior i expected to break through about four years ago - she didn't do this at all, but now she finally gets a win at a senior slam, over peschke.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

Murrrray holding sway in the clash of the Hot New Things - lost the first set, pinched the second, romped through the third.

Oh look, Ivo Karlovic is involved in some tie-breaks. The first twelve games of each set must be such a unfathomable nuisance to him. "Do we have to?"

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

Murray has had a bck problem since the 3rd set, he only took it bcz Monfils' brain had gone walkabout. But he's about to win the 4th and Murray will probably lose now.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

Favourites not walking it in the women's: Emmy Lwah losing 1st set 1-6 to Clarisa Fernandez; Kirilenko down 1-2 in the third against Sev Bremond.

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Emmy Lwah is a _favourite_?

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

she's a favourite of mine, baby.

(she's played pretty badly all year. though given that fernandez has played pretty badly for two years now, The Law should still be winning...gah)

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

Murray flops out 2-6 1-6 in the last two sets. More tabloid flak for Andy, I expect.

Can we anticipate round one downfall for Rodders this afternoon vs Not-Todd Martin? He's having a wretched year but seemed to have picked up his clay-court game a notch recently. I actually thought he was going to skip Paris, injured.

Ivo won 8-6 7-1 12-10. A real beggars' banquet.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

oh andy. growing pains. i'm surprised he took it to five - monfils has been in much better form (i think murray has won, what, two matches since he won the title in san jose in march?). sure, murray beat monfils the other week, but i think that was as much to do with monfils' exhaustion as anything else - and murray promptly lost to james blake which is sort of ludicrous on clay.

i totally hope not-todd can win today! but i've never been impressed with his game, not even on clay...still, dickhead should definitely lose in round 3 to le petit rochus.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

gah, another of my eastern european prodigies goes down - miss victoria azarenka, of belarus, who is one of the hardest hitters i have EVER seen, comes undone after winning the first set 6-0 against anabel medina garrigues - azarenka eventually loses 7-9 in the third...

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

kirilenko (aka the face of stella mccartney!) comes through an epic, 8-6 in the third over bremond.

holy shit, nadia petrova is a set and a break down!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa. And she's playing Akiko's Moggy Army - you'd not have picked this out (which means Petrova will claw it back or Moggy'll fall to pieces or something. Either way - it's a Grand Slam, she's Nadia Petrova, a quarter-final exit is practically a contractual obligation, no?)

The Loiterer comes good in the end and is through in three.

Elsewhere - Tommy-Jo is crushing The Other Rochus, Crayfish getting gutted by Yakimova, and Gisela Dulux is a set up but a break down against The Long Awaited Return To The Grand Slam Scene Of Julia's Bagel Time!

And now Rova's two breaks down to Moggy.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

nadia was pre-tournament favourite! she is unbeaten on clay this season (haha not in a few minutes' time she won't be) - maybe the pressure has got to her.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Two seeds out today - Fat Bob out in four to Montanes, and Go Go Gadget Golovin disappoints the home crowd in straight sets against Jie Zheng. In the clash of the tennis thread titans, Princess Anastasia clonked Our Sania 6-4 6-1.

JHH dismisses Ani (From Estonia) 6-3 6-0, and Mog's serving at 5-2 up against Rova.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Mog mugs Rova 6-2 6-2!

Elsewhere, Dicko's 4-2 down against Marty, Bagel Timer gets the second set against Dulks.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

oh my god nadia you are a ridiculous girl. pre-tournament favourite and you lose first round in straight sets to mpaperfolding.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

poor gisela dulko - she got dumped by that cad tommy robredo a few weeks ago. he went on to win his first masters series title the following week, but poor gisela hasn't won a match since :(

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oh no. I heart the Graceful Gazelle! This tournament is preposterous already.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

oh well at least roddick is a set down :)

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Though, to be fair, Dulko's 3-0 up in the decider.

On Court 3, Bobby Vik and Florent Serra are tearing strips off each other - 1-6 6-1 1-1 at the moment. Both games in the third have gone against serve.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Roddick hanging on grimly in the second set. Do we really want him to lose here though? Don't like the idea of Pandy having all that grasscourt prep ahead of Queens/Wimbledon.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Bagels serving at 6-7 down in the third against Dulks. Rodders 5-4 up in the second, Ferdy Gonzalez takes the first set 6-3 against Safin, Jonas Bjorkman loses the first set to Jeremy Chardy, Serra takes the third set 7-5 against Vik.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

And Martin takes three games on the bounce to go two sets up. Will Roddick be packing his Flymo?

Dulux-Bagel 8-8. The Ukrainian lass just tossed away a break point there.

Kooky-Lovin' Klara is a set up on Garbin. Klara's the 30th seed this year. Well done her.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and Roddick's just conceded. Presumably it's an injury of some kind.

Safin leads Gonzo 5-0 in the second.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Beygelzimer goes a break up!

Also, Chris Roc is on the verge of a remarkable turnaround against Johansson - he now leads 3-6 5-7 6-4 6-4 4-1.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Gorgeous Gise broke back! 9-9! Bloody hell.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Le plus petit Rochus completes the comeback, 6-2 in the fifth. And Dulko finally gets CLOSURE of sorts - 11-9 in the third for her, in yr face Tommy, since u been gone Gisela can breathe for the first time etc etc.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

You can imagine my excitement when I received via email today a collection of odes by aspiring American poet Vincent Spadea. I was particularly looking forward to a poignant verse possibly entitled "On Losing Twenty Matches In A Row", when I realised the missive came from one V!ncent Spada and my hopes were crushed :(

Crimea River (Mark C), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 08:40 (nineteen years ago)

haha you know that vincent spadea has actually penned some, ahem, rap songs of his own? i never want to hear them. apparently he played his first round match here in a rhinestone-encrusted cap that even yahoo felt moved to call 'loud'.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 08:53 (nineteen years ago)

alizé cornet is the youngest player into the second round for the second year running - beats ruano pascual 6-1 in the third. have an ice cream alizé!

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

Wimbledon's being streamed online by the BBC!

If yr in the UK, like.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

how can they tell what country you're in?!

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

gicquel v kiefer is turning into a real ding-dong of a battle, which is i believe the technical term. gicquel got routed in the first two sets, winning just one game; edged the third, won the fourth amidst multiple rain breaks, went a break down in the fifth, has clawed that back, and it's 0-6 1-6 7-5 6-3 4-4 with all to play for now...

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

OMG FEDERER OUT!!!!!!

...i am guessing i fooled precisely no one, there. fedge through obviously.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

erm i pressed return a lot but the blank space which was meant to make that joke a joke didn't appear.

god i CANNOT. COPE. WITH. COMPUTERS. TODAY.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

gicquel and kiefer continue to ding and dong all the way to 7-7...

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

When I realized I was playing someone who was twice my age, it's true that it was quite funny," Cornet said.

i bet vivi didn't find it so funny you little minx!

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Henman has just been knocked out in 4. Tursonov goes on to face Nalbandian.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Thursday, 1 June 2006 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

Heroics from 35-y-o Belgian Dick "Dick" Norman - up a break in the fifth vs Monfils having lost the 4th to love. When you get to my age you've got to back the old bugger.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Of course, Dick lost.

Bandy, meanwhile, is just starting to drag himself back into contention vs Tursunov - down two sets to one.

MariO, RobredO, DavydenkO and GaudiO through to the last 16; ArguellO is on the verge of joining them, at which point they'll all overlap, Olympic rings style, against a photomontage of novelty mints, shuttle disasters and David Rappap0rt.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Bandy came back to win! Fedz stumbled into the last 16 - served for it twice vs Massu in the third but eventually had to go deep into the gloom for a 7-5 4th set squeaker.

Top half of the 4th round looking good in both singles draws - particularly Sharapova-Safina and Fedz-TheFellaThatBeatHimInTheOlympics.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 2 June 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, for fuck's sake.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 3 June 2006 05:58 (nineteen years ago)

In Lex-annoying news, the man with the ugly temper (Chewitt) gets the first set over the man with the ugly shirt (Dominik-a-nik-a-nik).

And, in me-pleasing news, Anna Lena Groenfeld, who I've been convinced was about to do great things is finally going to actually GO SOMEWHERE IN A GRAND SLAM, a set away from the fourth round. Well done, Lena GR, it's been a BLOODY LONG TIME COMING, unless it only seems so.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 3 June 2006 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

8-8 hantuchova-dechy in the 3rd.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 3 June 2006 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

I want hewitt to win just so he plays Nadal in the next round - it'll be funny!

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 3 June 2006 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

Hantuchova through 10-8.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 3 June 2006 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

Some scoreline for Breadstick vs Desenchantee. Bet the game was boring as batshit to watch, though.

Chewy Llewis looking home, two sets up. The Radical Stepladder a set up on the United Colours of Benneteau and YES, the Graceful Gazelle charged straight through Shenay Perry, and probably looked quite elegant while doing so.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 3 June 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

And yes, in the loveable fruitcake stakes, we have the Queen V vs Batty Patty to look forward to. Glee!

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 3 June 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

And Benneteau is ascending the Staircase, having won two sets now. Lleyton through quick-smart, hmm, colour those that are not annoyed very surprised. Rochus Superior vs Not Todd Martin, Albert is tight.

Needing to raise her standards at the moment: The Diva! Lost the first set to the improving but still beneath her Shahar Peer, but has a break in the second. And El is awfully strong on that serve, isn't she now. The Belgians through easily enough.

Really, how is Jiffy Ljub seeded #4? It's amazing the things that slip by between slams if you take your eye off the rest of the ATP tour.

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 3 June 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

Ljub has won events in Chennai and Zagreb this year and lost to Federer in a Masters Series final without dropping his serve; it is a bit odd though, cos I thought his start to 2005 was just as good (lots of finals anyway), but Steve G's site shows Jiffy has had a 430pt net gain since Jan 1, so whatever.

Has far does James Blakes have to get in this event to displace Rodders as US #1 I wonder?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 3 June 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

"Blakes" - I'm turning into my Dad..."Foley's War", "Tony Blairs"...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 3 June 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Nadal gets through in just under five hours in four sets! Matthieu played his skin off..

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 3 June 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Safina-Sharapova reaches its climax and...I have to go out. So, er, text me the result, yeah? My number is, weirdly, the same as that Dutch Eurovision guy.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 4 June 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

oh er ok...

safina does it! 6 games in a row from 5-1 down in the 3rd!!

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Sunday, 4 June 2006 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, Safina!

Dan (Go On, Girl) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

Kim c thrrough easily against Hantuchova (tough on her tho' after such a gruelling 3rd round encounter)

Blake-Monfils on serve in the 5th.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

..."3rd round encounter" yesterday, i should say).

Monfils breaks and serves it out - 6-4 in five.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

DAMMIT

Dan (Blake! You Frustrating Person) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

A couple of things:

Nadal will have to improve by a touch between now and that possible (almost inevitable) final against Fed. Somehow not quite there yet.

Sharapova-Safina: I left it when it was 3-1 in the 3rd then I checked 20 mins later expecting to settle down to another match and there it still was...5-4 about to become 5-5.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Sunday, 4 June 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

i thought safina would beat shazbot, but i didn't think it would be that close, and i certainly didn't think she could come back from 1-5 down to do it! well done dinara!

saw the end of blake v monfils - i love monfils, he has an AMAZING bodyis very charismatic did you SEE IT when he took his shirt off after the norman matchand i like his game! blake seemed to be throwing a hissy fit at the umpire afterwards - anyone have any idea what it was about? there weren't any controversial calls in the last game.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

He was probably just pissed with himself and taking it out on the ump because he forgot people were watching him.

Dan (Grrr) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

he is normally quite mild-mannered though! to be honest he should be v happy with himself, he did much better here than i think anyone was expecting.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

i can't believe that one of alberto martin and julien benneteau are going to be in a grand slam quarter-final.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

Fed Wedge two sets to the good on Berdych, and Nikkerbokker Davydenko's dark-horsey-ness continues to grow - 6-3 3-0 up (with two breaks of serve) on 2004 champ Gau!Di!O!, having straight-setted Moya in the last round. Patz 4-2 up on Veenie in the first.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 4 June 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

How can Davydenko really be a dark horse when he's highly seeded and did super-well last year I don't know. But if that's the way the meeja spins it, so be it.

GO BATTY PATTY! (Tho I've got mad love for the V-ster too)

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 4 June 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

I am just watching the scoreboard but it looks like Venus just woke up.

Dan (Go Girl) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

venus and patty are both slightly bonkers, but...well, venus has never done anything like this to me (fyi, all the ip addresses on the anonymous comments are based in switzerland. apart from the belinda carlisle one which i suspect is a london ilxor having his fun).

mauresmo just hit the most exquisite one-handed backhand drive volley against vaidisova, who is looking flummoxed at having to play someone who is using tactics on court. if you though sharapova was just dumb power-hitting, vaidisova's game is even more of a lowest common denominator.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 4 June 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

OMG that website!

Okay, I think I'm rooting for her crazy ass, too.

Dan (At Least For The Next Five Minutes) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

omg the people patty schnyder set on ME! terrifying insight into the minds of her fans, there (or - surely not - maybe the woman herself).

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 4 June 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Mauresmo 0-5 in the 2nd so it may be a while before we can wheel out (and it is on wheels, a joke like this doesn't have legs) the clumsy "vaidisova for Nicole" gag again.

Although you can't see the ball in the low-res highlights clip on the Rolandgarros.com front page, Mathieu & Son vs er, Tea for the Tillernadalman looked like a cracker. In fact, seeing as you can't see the ball, it was at least as good as the match in Maryon Park in Antonioni's Blow Up which the Pinefox and I re-created in 1999.

I really couldn't fully process that Wh1te M1le site. I didn't know what the bloody hell it was on abaht, but I did only have 15 seconds to look at it before my daughter started crying. Which might not have been unrelated.

WavyDavyDenkoMenko is defending a lot of points here having been thwarted only in last year's semi by drug-guzzling cheat* Pu3rt4. (* - has this been confirmed/refuted yet? Are things ever in tennis?) Probably Bandy next. Fedz vs Ancic in the quarters! Shades of Wimbledon 2002? Probably not.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 4 June 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

MONFILS

a joy to see Hingis' ease. she's become rather cuet.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 4 June 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

I think Amelie also looked at that website and it completely sapped her will to play.

Dan (It's Like A Tennis Version Of "The Ring") Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 4 June 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

oh dear amelie!

she won a pretty good first set and then basically went MEEP MEEP MEEP I CAN'T COPE for the rest of the match.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 4 June 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Mauresmo disintegrated again ugh...never a pretty sight.

Henin was walking all over Myskina and then, 5-0 up on the 2nd she suddenly got out of the locker room to win the next four games! Henin finally did successfully serve it out to win 6-4. The first point of that final game was one of the great great rallies.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Hingis match goes into a third set to be completed tomorrow.

But its all about Hewitt-Nadal.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Sunday, 4 June 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Over in 3 very, very, very short sets I would think.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 4 June 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

HOW DARE YOU UNDERESTIMATE HIS BATTLING QUALITIES

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 4 June 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

Woo! My girl Lena GR is in the quarters! On bloody clay! I would have thought she'd have broken through on grass for sure. Would love to have seen Kuznetsova/Schiavone - bet that was flashy with that scoreline.

edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 4 June 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

haha, edward, last year at wimbledon ALG lost to a british wild card - the only deduction about her grass court prowess i can make is that it is non-existent! she should be better on grass, her serve is hella good, but i think for the moment she's more comfortable on clay.

nastya is a ridiculous player. she was functionally not present until 1-6 0-5 down and THEN she starts to play well?! idiot girl. however - JHH is the woman to beat here, and in my mind still the heavy favourite.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 5 June 2006 07:13 (nineteen years ago)

Lex, her performance EVERYWHERE has been dismal - no point singling out just Wimbledon 05! She's going to get minced next round though!

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 5 June 2006 07:25 (nineteen years ago)

ed, ALG has been fantastic for the past six months! consistent results in big tournaments, a title in acapulco, the occasional big win. sure there are some dodgy losses here and there, but after wimbledon 05 she was way off making the top 50 - now she's solidly top 15 and continuing to rise. i don't think she'll make top 10 this season - too much competition, hingis and vaidisova are better bets - but she's improved out of sight.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 5 June 2006 07:44 (nineteen years ago)

I meant her performance everywhere LAST year was dismal, she's obviously been great this year otherwise she wouldn't be #13 would she. I still love her.

Now, Vaidisova's next match is going to be an interesting one.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 5 June 2006 07:49 (nineteen years ago)

So I was looking at the ladies' (are they called ladies on the continent? Desmoiselles?) last 16, and I noticed that 14 of them were seeded in the top 16, and the other two were lower seeds. IS THE WOMEN'S GAME REALLY SO PREDICTABLE?? And if so, why? You'd think with 5 sets to play with, the better men would have more of a chance to make their talent pay rather than the 3-setters the top women have, but no.

Crimea River (Mark C), Monday, 5 June 2006 09:17 (nineteen years ago)

partly the luck of the draw - the most vulnerable top 16 seeds (Hantuchova and Groenefeld in particular) got very easy paths to the round of 16, while the dangerous unseeded floaters (Li, Vakulenko) got the toughest opponents.

also, ironically, it's due to the increasing depth in the women's game. in the past there'd be a couple of elite players who towered above the rest - which meant that though there'd be the same four names in the semis every time, the other top 20 players were more likely to be upset by non-seeds. now, you've got about 20 women playing at a higher level to the rest of the field, which means that most of the seeds follow form. the move to 32 seeds has also meant that there's less chance of an upset.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 5 June 2006 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

Squee! Martina won again. HEARTS for Martina! And Nadal whipping through Lleyton.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

yep he's just broken him in the 2nd.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

blah he's broken back and held. back on serve.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

Hewitt breaks again! 1-1.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

2nd set Lleytz 7-5. "Hello! Hello! Here we go!" as Clive Tyldesley once said, appallingly.

I really was going to post about how Mathieu could really give Nadal some grief, but every time I say something like that it's two, love and one in about 55min.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

Nadal lost a set to Hewitt, fine, but ON CLAY? DOES NOT COMPUTE.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

Hewitt is serving really well and putting quite a lot of pressure on Nadal's returns.

Nadal saved a couple of break points in his last service game. On serve so far in the 3rd.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if we might end up with a French finalist (the first since...Leconte?) after all of this - either this new, clay-lovin' Hewitt or an inspired, crowd-fuelled Monfils takes out Nadal, and fighting fresh Benneteau (who barely broke a sweat today) nudges past Ljub.

I think that might be my favoured scenario if the #1-#2 battle doesn't come off.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

No please lets not talk like this: its Nadal-Fed in the greatest macth of all time plz!

Nadal has just broken Hewitt with a magnificent drop-shot. Now he serves for the 3rd.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

Nadal wins 6-4.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

MEANWHILE: That 'Frenchman in the final' thing? Novak Djokovic doesn't seem to be following the script - 5-2 up on the Gaellemot.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

Nadal breaks again in the 4th hurrah

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

That's the cue for Monfils to take three games in a row, then. 5-5.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

Hewitt fights back to break..

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if it's too late to put a substantial wager on Nalbandian.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

Possibly too early, cos Nadgers immediately snaffles that break back then holds to go 4-2 up.

MEANWHILE: there's a tie-break, it goes to 5-5 apiece... and Force-9 blinks first. NoDjo takes the first set 7-6.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I never doubted Nadal would win, but if he's dropping sets to Hewitt (whose "new" "game" is less suited to clay than his old), he might lose earlier, and Nalby's not a bad show to oust Fed on clay, though not LIKELY.

$15 was on offer pre-tourney.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Another tie-break... another set to Djokovic, he leads 7-6 7-6. Gosh, I wish a had a telly and this was on it.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

If you had a telly, this might be on it - BBCi are screening it live. It's not that great actually - hard to see either man troubling Rafa. Djoko bounces the ball pre-serve more often than any man since Connors.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 5 June 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Nice moment a few minutes ago when Monfils reacted to a trajectory-changing net-cord with a shot through the legs; Djoko responded with a drop-shot, Monfils did the same and then Djoko tried a self-nutmeg to squeak the angle. It didn't work.

Monfils is, I think, about to lose - he's blown a 3-1 lead in this set and is now facing three break-points...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

And there's the 5-3 for Nacho Novo. He's serving for it...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Monfils just got a code violation for audible obscenity when spraying a backhand wide; tells the ump it wasn't him with the pottymouth, ump seems to be believe him. You've never get that from Graham Poll.

No Djitters for Djoko - two points away...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

And he only need the one match point for au revoir. France's hopes now rest with Benny The Toe.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

So...

Federer vs Ancic
Nalbandian vs Davydenko
Benneteau vs Ljubicic
Djokovic vs Nadal

Vaidisova vs Williams
Safina vs Kuznetsova
Henin-Hardenne vs Groenefeld
Hingis vs Clijsters

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

And he did it. We've got all the quarter-finals sorted now haven't we?

Roger Federer v Mario Ancic
David Nalbandian v Nikolay Davydenko
Julien Benneteau v Ivan Ljubicic
Novak Djokovic v Rafael Nadal

Nicole Vaidisova v Venus Williams
Dinara Safina v Svetlana Kuznetsova
Justine Henin-Hardenne v Anna-Lena Groenefeld
Martina Hingis v Kim Clijsters

I think I will be boring and safe and go for Fedge and Double H as champs, with Nadge and Venus the losing finalists...

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

xp!

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

hang on JULIEN BENNETEAU is the last french man or woman standing WTFWTFWTFWTFWTF

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 5 June 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Not sure Venus would get through to the final...anyway, its on serve vs Vladisova in the 1st.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 10:02 (nineteen years ago)

Venus wins the first on the tie-break. The first four games in the 2nd have taken almost half an hour..very erratic tennis from both.

Kuznetsova through to the semis.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 10:41 (nineteen years ago)

i'm shocked kuznetsova won so easily - safina beat her in a tight match just two weeks ago! i thought venus would get to the final because i predicted safina would do it again, and venus would have probably beaten safina. but now i think it's basically in kuznetsova's hands. esp as vaidisova seems to be repeating her 4th round pattern - first set tb lost, but she's got a 5-1 lead in the second set...

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 10:48 (nineteen years ago)

and its 6-1. Vladisova finally getting it together but we'll see...Williams has actually played well for the first four games of the 2nd set but Vladisova broke and proceeded to cut down on the errors and hit some more lines.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

oh my - check the stats for the safina match. she managed to win the grand total of THREE points in the second set :o

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 11:03 (nineteen years ago)

yeah very surprising defeat - almost like she burned herself out with the amount of effort she put to beat Sharapova.

Williams double faults, Vaidisova (spelt her name wrong uphtread) breaks. She has never let her intensity go and it looks like she'll go through now.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

hmm...Williams was on the ropes in her next service games, a couple of unforced errors from Vaidisova means she still has to serve twice. not quite over.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 11:17 (nineteen years ago)

Vaidisova holds and breaks again: 6-3 in the 3rd!

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still surprised whenever Venus loses to someone with whom I'm not that familiar, even on European clay, so this is a bit of a shock to me.

5-5 in the 1st between Hinge and Braijket.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

shocked! this really is a breakthrough for vaidisova, and on an unexpected surface for her as well.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

GO MARTINA!

hingis is back to her bitchy best incidentally - after beating ondraskova in round two, her interview afterwards went along the lines of "i almost felt sorry for her, i was winning so easily". note 'almost'. mary joe fernandez told a story about how, the week after hingis/novotna beat seles/fernandez in doubles, 7-6 in the third, she was surprised to learn that hingis and novotna were splitting up - she asked hingis about this, and hingis replied "well, we almost lost to you, we had to".

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

Well, she's not quite on top of things at the moment - first set went to tie-break, Clidge took it 7-5, and is now a break up at 3-1 in the second.

Things going with serve between JHH and Annie-Lennie.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

It's Pernfors/Wilander vs Leconte/Pioline on court 1!

Looijks lijke Kim.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

Clijsters takes it 7-6 6-1. Crijpes, etc.

JHH gets the first break of serve against Algie, serving at 4-3 up.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

Also, out on #7, Vanilla Cornet is going from beating someone twice her age to being a set down to someone six months younger than her. Aww.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

Is she getting a good licking?

"Matt" Groenefeld won't lie down - breaks back via Pristine.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

I actually put a fiver on Hingis there :(

Crimea River (Mark C), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

JHH gets a crucial break to go 6-5 up, and she's now serving for the set.

Oddly, Cornet-Wozniacki has just vanished from the pop-up score tracker. Oh, no, it's back again - Mademoiselle lost the first set 6-3, currently 2-1 up on serve in the second.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

So... one all-Belgian semi and one all-ova semi.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

But hey! Tennis isn't just for GIRLS! Fedge is a set up on Ancic - but he's just lost serve in the first game of the second set! now, can Maz hang on...

And Russian Dave's just gone 3-1 up on Argentinian Dave

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

This, of course, was the cue for Russian Dave to then lose five games in a row, and thus the set. THAT'S why he's the dark horse! 1-1 in the second.

In a not-massive shock, Ancic didn't hold that break for very long - Fedz was soon back at him and took the set 6-3. They're 1-1 in the third.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

cornet v wozniacki is at 5-5 40-40 in the third! who will be the first to melt?

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

6-6! LE TENSION SE MONTE! (or something)

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

So Argentinian Dave took the second set 6-3... but Russian Dave's taken the third 6-2! NEIGH, DARK HORSE, NEIGH!

Course that probably makes no difference given Fedge straight-setted SBCE 6-4 6-3 6-4.

Oh, and Cornet scooped the Danish lass 8-6 in the third.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Nalbs went through after taking the fourth set 6-4.

Tomorrow, the eyes of the French rest on Julien Benneteau...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Hoping for Bandy-Fed to be a classic.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

Nadal is one step closer as Djokovic retires after two sets.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

i must say that people with tickets for today are pretty short-changed given that they bought tickets for men's qfs - two matches which are about as close as tennis gets to foregone conclusions.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah they've fucked up on the scheduling.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

And now Benny's 6-2 6-2 down to Ljubi. 1-1 in the third.

Incidentally, if Ivan makes it to the semis, he'll have done so without having faced a single seeded player in the tournament so far. And then he'll be taking on Rafa. Oh well.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

Benny's now serving to avoid losing the third set 6-2 as well.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

He succeeded, but Ljubi held his serve and goes through 6-2 6-2 6-3.

Still, Benny can be pleased with his tournament overall - a quarter final, taking out Stepanek and Baghdatis along the way - not a bad fortnight's work.

Yr men's semis, then, are Federer-Nalbandian and Ljubicic-Nadal. The 'dream final' appears to still be on.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

When was the last time the men's semis at a GS were composed of the top four seeds? It's not a quiz - I genuinely don't know.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

1985.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Really? Lemme guess - McEnroe, Lendl, Wilander, Connors at the US Open.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

bizarro world! men's draw ends with top 4 seeds all in semis; women's draw ends with 3 of top 4 out before the quarters. they've totally switched places!

(this adds grist to my theory that women's tennis in the mid-00s = men's tennis in the late 90s)

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

oops Michael I was talking about the last French Open and not the last slam. That I do not know.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

I reckon it was the same four players at the French that year too - Wilander thumped Mac in straight sets (lost the corresponding match at Flushing Meadow in five) and Lendl beat Connors in three (ditto NYC).

It's probably happened quite recently in a Slam...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, got it - 2005 Aussie Open. (4) and (3) beat (1) and (2) respectively. Ljub-Bandy final, anyone?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Ha! Yeah, actually, despite what i said upthread that looks like it would be fun - Ljub's smile at the moment of victory made me think of how I'd like to see him there. I reckon he'll play well against Nadal, given that no one is expecting him to break his run.

And Bandy surely must win one slam!

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

hey! women's semis today! hottest matches in town!

wish i could be watching them but work has been so hectic i've barely had time to look at the scores. kuznetsova took a 5-3 lead - when i came back from lunch that had turned into 5-7 0-2. vaidisova in turn led 7-5 5-3 but kuzzie's pulled back to 5-5...

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 8 June 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

YES! COME ON!

svetlana takes the second set on a tiebreak!

WANT. TO. SEE.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

...and sveta takes a 4-0 lead in the final set :D

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

...and wins! 5-7 7-6 6-2 the final score.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 8 June 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

dude, Roland, you're getting a Dell!

come on Henin!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

a kuznetsova v henin final would be so awesome.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 8 June 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

GETTING THERE! The Little Backhand That Could in a 6-3 4-2 lead already!

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

6-3 6-2! WHIPPED!

it's been far too long that i've unreservedly loved both players in a slam final - i think i will cheering sveta though.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

(I'll prob go for Henin but I'd like her to win Wimbledon, too.)

FORGET THE FRENCH OPEN THE WORLD CUP IS HERE!!!

The semi-finals might just clash with today's opener, not that it matters coz its only germany-costa rica. Is the men's final clashing withe Serbia Montenegro-Holland? That might just kill me a little..although of course I'm not missing the final.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Friday, 9 June 2006 07:58 (nineteen years ago)

(Er, Julio - though I fundamentally disagree with the sentiments expressed in the thread title, and I abandoned my own late-comer thread in favour of this, let's not get Lex started on the football, eh? I know yr only kiddin', like.)

Can't bring myself to cheer for Bandy today, as much as I like him. The prospect of that final and a men's singles grand slam (albeit not a calendar year one) in my lifetime is too hard to resist.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 9 June 2006 08:11 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone else won a non-calendar year slam? (of course, Tiger Woods has achieved this in golf.)

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Friday, 9 June 2006 08:29 (nineteen years ago)

no men that I can think of - Agassi's the only one in living memory who even won all four across his whole career (and the old people who did it, they did it when the Slams weren't on the four surfaces that they are now).

which is why I am definitely supporting Federer here - to be honest I like both Fedge and Nadge so much that I still haven't decided who to support in this rivalry yet! - but y'know HISTORY in my LIFETIME and all that.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 9 June 2006 08:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Laver & Budge's Slams were 75% grass-court! But Laver was on the pro tour from '63-'67, so God knows how many titles he could've won (he did the Slam twice). I don't think any other male player has won four in a row; I seem to remember the "holding four titles simultaneously" bit was the defining bit of the Slam from my old Guinness Book of Records - the "calendar year" requirement seems to be more of a sportswriters' thing (but it's originally their expression, so fair enough). What does Wikipedia say?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 9 June 2006 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

wiki covers it. I didn't know it was a sportswriter thing. The tennis federation agrees w/ Guiness:

Though the term was originally restricted to the winning of all four tournaments in the same calendar year, the International Tennis Federation declared the official term as a player holding all four titles simultaneously, regardless of the calendar year.

Agassi achieved a "Career Grand Slam".

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Friday, 9 June 2006 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

i think a Career Grand Slam is also known as the Full House!

i remember wondering, at the end of 2001, whether Venus Williams or Martina Hingis would complete the Full House first - Hingis only had RG to go, and Venus had RG and the Australian but seemed so dominant that it was surely inevitable. Five years on both are in exactly the same position, and have been basically lapped by Serena Williams and nearly lapped by Justine HH! Ah, tennis.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 9 June 2006 10:08 (nineteen years ago)

I like the idea of the "boxed set" - a career Slam of singles, doubles & mixed (only Hart, Court-Smith and Nav have done it).

Bandy a break up!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 9 June 2006 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

COME ON BANDY!!!! I think he's teh handsome.

Crimea River (Mark C), Friday, 9 June 2006 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

Bandy breaks again to take the first set 6-3; Federer has only taken five points off Nalbo's serve and hasn't had a single break point. ITF-approved Slam seems a little less likely right now.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 9 June 2006 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

Fedz is getting murdered so far - anyone watching this? Injury? Mistiming groundstrokes? Or DN just too good?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 9 June 2006 10:53 (nineteen years ago)

And...Federer breaks back at his first opportunity. Interesting stuff. I'm off out for lunch...by the time I get back I expect Federer to be two sets to one up but a break down in the 4th. Or maybe I'll just get a sandwich and try to reinstall WinTV on that idle PC...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 9 June 2006 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

when i saw that fed was 3-6 0-3 down, my initial reaction was shock - i mean, i fully expected him to lose at least one set if not two to big dave, but i didn't expect it to be quite so comprehensive. then i realised i was still in women's-match mindset, where a 3-6 0-3 deficit = three games from defeat, and that in fact it might not turn out to be that much of an uphill climb for roger - and indeed he seemed to turn set 2 around very smartly indeed, having taken it 6-4. i wouldn't be surprised if he loses another set though.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 9 June 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

bbc news 24 just showed an insane nighlight of roger running back to retrieve a nalbandian lob and then hitting a ferocious down-the-line passing shot winner between his legs. i am kind of in awe, yet again.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 9 June 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

Nalbo's quit at 2-5 in the third??

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

In the 1st set Fed's timing on his shots was completely off, esp on the backhand.

But on the 2nd set he went on to play ONE GREAT, MAGNIFICENT, NEVER SEEN BEFORE SHOT! Really - tape that, show it to the kids and maybe in a generation or two it might become common. After that he was suddenly at his very very best and broke Bandy.

Into the 3rd Bandy had a recurrence to an old injury (to his abdominal muscle, i think) and that was that. If Bandy tried to stay with him that level he might've dropped off and then we're into you-never-know territory. xp= yes.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

The Lex has just described a shot he played just after he got his game back.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

first french final for fedge!

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

Red button BBC action tomorrow, 11am to 7 pm. You may already have discussed this, I can't be arsed to read the whole thread.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

Read the whole thread, PJM. The first letter of each line in my posts forms a dirty acrostic.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

Ljub broken in the 1st.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

I probably will read your bits, when it's all over.

Ah, summer, etc.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

and broken again - Nadal is quite impossible right now.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

Ljub gets a break back - going for more lines + a couple of unforced errors.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Friday, 9 June 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Nadal two sets up. Keep Sunday afternoon clear, folks.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Ljubcic served and played better in the 3rd but its Nadal through to the final after a good tie-break.

Can't wait..

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Friday, 9 June 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

From The Times this morning:

...when, implausibly, he played a flicked forehand to a deep approach and conjured a cross-court winner. What Nalbandian assumed would be 30-all was 40-15 and, little did he know it, his match was over.

Federer described it as a squash shot. “It’s paying off, all the squash I played with my father early on, it helped me out in the semi-finals of the French Open, that’s not bad,� he said.

If that shot was something remarkable, in the process of winning five games in succession, he played one even more special, leaping off in pursuit of a drop shot and, with his face to the back of the court, fashioning a reverse sweep of a forehand winner down Nalbandian’s forehand wing. He raised one arm in the air, Alan Shearer-style, as the crowd erupted in rapture.

So squash, then. Talked to my brother about this (he has seen much more squash than me). He said that it explains the 2nd but NOT the 1st special shot.

Ladies final is live on BBC2 and only highlights of tomorrow's encounter, which i thought they'd change to live coverage.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 10 June 2006 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

DOuble H won the first set 6-4, but Sveta has a break. Woo! MATCH!

edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 10 June 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

It's JHH. Svetz didn't really seem to get going (I was channel-hopping all afternoon).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 10 June 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

It...wasn't great, no, Kuznetsova played the occasional very well-worked, well-constructed point, but a whole lot of horrific unforced errors too. JHH wasn't exactly on top form either but she she was a lot more in control of her game, and at the end she really stepped it up and closed it out well.

First woman since Steffi Graf to defend at Roland Garros!

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 10 June 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

yay for Justine

McEnroe described the first as a squash shot on the rebroadcast

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 10 June 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

(I watched this.)

Henin didn't lose a set during the whole two weeks!!

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Saturday, 10 June 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Federer out to early 5-0 lead shock!

It's somewhat misleading though - Nadal was very nervy and made a bundle of uncharacteristic errors at the start, and found himself down 0-3 0-40 in no time at all - then he played a typical Nadal grinding point, 25 shots or something, and then it all seemed to click. Too late to rescue that service game, but Federer had a mighty struggle in his last service game, and it's definitely MATCH ON now.

A joy to watch obv, already several OMG shots!

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 11 June 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

I wasn't joking when I said I'd be steaming wallpaper during this - I think I'm sweating as much as the players. However, me working = Federer jinx because in the time it's taken me to do three walls, Fedx as gone from 5-0 to 6-1 1-6 3-5.

Nadal totally has his number - limp end to the third set and Federer facing triple break-point at the start of set four.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 11 June 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

This match is awful...unforced error after unforced error from Federer. Nadal vs. Mathieu was, like, ten times better than this.

lurker #2421, inc. (lurker-2421), Sunday, 11 June 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

the second and third sets were rather bad yes - Federer looked completely down and out when Nadal served for the match at 5-4 in the fourth, he just wasn't firing on ANY cylinders - but at 30-30 he played this incredible defensivbe point, broke back, and now is playing with a bit of his usual panache. We shall see what comes of it.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 11 June 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, he's started turning it around just as I was turning over for the other sporting event that The Lex doesn't think is worth watching...

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 11 June 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

For a moment, I believed...phenomenal break-back by Federer but another quartet of errors gifts a game to Nadal. Don't fancy RF's chances in this breaker.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 11 June 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

All over.

So, what happened to the Federer backhand? He was hitting it so freely in the first set - it just seemed to get tighter and tighter as the match went on.

I've no doubt Federer will win the French one year, he is the second best clay-court player in the world after all - but it'll probably be a year Nadal is out injured.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 11 June 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. Nadal is no joke, huh?

Dan (Juggernaut Of Clay) Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 11 June 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

The way the Federer backhand crumbled and died was quite horrid to watch. I don't think it was even all for the obvious that Nadal's topspin lefty forehand forces Federer to hit a lot of v high single-handed backhands - even on relatively simple shots he just seemed to over-press.

The scary thing is that Nadal can beat Federer on hard courts too - leads the non-clay head-to-head 2-1.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 11 June 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

I can't think of another rivalry in sport quite like this; Federer is 3000+ pts clear of Nadal in the rankings, has only lost once to anyone else in the last 13-14 months, is widely believed to be the most talented guy ever to play the sport but he cannot beat Nadal (the one win in seven he's had was from 2 sets/match points down).

The imbalance in the circuit's make-up has something to do with the gulf between them in the rankings - it's possible to play all year round on clay but only one of the majors is on that surface (and two/three of the Masters Series?) - but the head-to-head record is something else.

McEnroe lost something like seven times in a row to Lendl in the early-'80s when JPMcE was considered the best in the world (but this was before his 1984 dominance) before he figured him out (and switched from wood to graphite). Not the same though.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 11 June 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Funnily enough I was thinking how whenever Fed has failed in slams its always been in the semis - whenever he's gotten through to the final he's won. But here, Bandy retired, Fed didn't beat him!

Quite incredible, shocking, etc. Like lurker said Matthieu put up far more of a fight than Fed did! His backhand did collapse against Nalbandian before he got his game back in the 2nd, but here its like he gave everything he could in the 1st and then proceeded to capiltulate.

And I'm sure most of us had such high hopes for this match!

I think Fed will probably have to beat him first in a tour match and try and build something, anything, from there. Or amazingly enough, Roger Fedrer might have to improve, somehow! That or hiring a sports psychologist instead of a coach. Wasn't Lendl obessed with winning Wimbledon, but I dunno my tennis history, will Fed end up trying to even re-model parts of his game? yes, I'm just ranting now..

Wonder how all this will play out for the rest of the season for him.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Sunday, 11 June 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to see Federer slice a bit more on clay, if only to spare us the sight of that topspin backhand misfiring as he strains to give Nadal's leftie forehand something that isn't in his comfort zone. I think it is a mental thing now; to be effortlessly better than your peers for nearly three years only to find there's this one teenager who can run down everything you throw at him...

Lendl, in collaboration with Tony Roche, forced himself to become a serve-volley grasscourt player. He reached the Wimbledon semis twice without really deviating from his natural baseline game, but started attacking the net more from '85 onwards. Ironically, it was this new all-court game that destroyed McEnroe on hardcourt at the '85 USO but, with his volleying reflexes tested beyond their limit on quick grass, it never really worked as well at Wimbledon. Still, if it hadn't rained at 5-7 7-6 3-0 vs Becker in '89...

I don't think we can expect much from Nadal over the next month but when the North American hardcourt season starts, this rivalry will resume. I'd love to see a USO final between them...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 11 June 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's Federer's mindset which needs to change, more than anything - he seems so obsessed with winning well against Nadal, with imposing his game on him, that he seems to over-press far too much. It's quite, quite bizarre to watch Federer seem so at sea - I couldn't detect any sort of useful strategy from him yesterday! I was shocked, really - the trend of the Federer v Nadal rivalry on clay has been one where Federer is inching closer and closer, in Rome Federer even held match points. So this, I feel, is kind of a regression. It'll be interesting to see whether it affects him at all on the grass - he can't be at his peak mentally right now.

If Nadal wants to do well on grass it's his grips which need to change - he has the ability to play first-rate attacking tennis (towards the end of the third set this was v evident) but he has such an extreme Western grip that his ability to deal with low-bouncing balls will be somewhat limited.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 12 June 2006 06:54 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah ROLL OF HONOUR!

Men's singles: Rafael Nadal
Women's singles: Justine Henin-Hardenne
Men's doubles: Jonas Bjorkman and Max Mirnyi
Women's doubles: Lisa Raymond and Samantha Stosur
Mixed doubles: Nenad Zimonjic and Katarina Srebotnik
Boys' singles: Martin Klizan
Girls' singles: Agnieszka Radwanska
Boys' doubles: Emiliano Massa and Kei Nishikori
Girls' doubles: Sharon Fichman and Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova

in the women's doubles Raymond/Stosur beat Hantuchova/Sugiyama - has there been a doubles Slam final before where the four competitors were from not just different countries but different continents?

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 12 June 2006 07:15 (nineteen years ago)

Ha! Tony Roche collaborating with Lendl and Fed, huh?

Last night I was quite disappointed that it wasn't a classic, more than anything. In a way, I didn't care who won...now i'm also feeling it was great (even right!) that Nadal won (also don't remember Nadal feeling the heat on clay as he did on that 1st set). Not only cuz its a great story: Nadal pretty much the last line of resistance (bar Safin or Bandy getting it together once in a blue moon) to total Fed domination of the men's game, and also reading all the complaints about Nadal's supposed time-wasting between points and fist-pumping. Well I like fist-pumping and I like how he keeps so much control over his emotions and then lets it go when he wins a truly great point! Besides, its a great last tester for Fed to overcome..

anyway, its been fun...Wimbledon will be here soon. Hoping to turn up again and watch some matches in the 1st week.

xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Monday, 12 June 2006 07:50 (nineteen years ago)

Represent for my girl Agnieszka Radwanska. She is from The Poland! And she beat the Russian top seed who has the most ridiculous name EVAH.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:42 (nineteen years ago)

what like RADWANSKA isn't a ridiculous name!

Agnieszka seems to be very good anyway - she made her senior WTA debut in Warsaw the other month and beat Myskina in three sets (this may have been partly due to Nastya being retarded but still v impressive). And she has a little sister, Urszula, who is apparently even better.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 07:29 (nineteen years ago)

I am also not entirely sure if we should talk about the grass warm-ups here but hey ho Henbot beat Agatha at Queen's which is a result neither here nor there as they are both total has-beens.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 07:30 (nineteen years ago)

Radwanska is only a slightly ridiculous name, it really needs a couple of Zs in it. Looks like "Wanksta" does it not.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

yes - a RAD wanksta though!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

The tennis parents are just making it too easy/difficult (delete as appropriate) for the nicknamers.

lol at Agassi being old.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 11:37 (nineteen years ago)

I am also not entirely sure if we should talk about the grass warm-ups here

Rolling ATP/WTA (/FC/DC/WTC/AMC/ITF etc) thread maybe?

The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 10:11 (nineteen years ago)

I'd be totally up for that but fear endless talking to myself during non-Slams!

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

We did try it once, didn't we? And there was the Masters Cup thread one year where I was the only poster!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

It doesn't help that it's impossible for most of us to see non-Slam matches on TV...

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 10:40 (nineteen years ago)


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