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A bartender friend of mine once told me that gin drunks were the meanest drunks, and since then I've heard other references to the gin/rage connection, but when I googled "gin anger" I didn't find the scientific studies I expected. I have a chronically apoplectic G&T-drinker in the family and am toying with the idea of suggesting a cocktail switch the next time the subject of his rages comes up in conversation (which it does periodically). He loves his gin, so I need persuasive evidence.

Hold forth, ILE drunkologists!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

Gin certainly brings on the blackest depressions next morning. One of my drinking buddies, on the other hand, can only drink gin because vodka makes him psychotic.

― breathny spears let me see the sex that you did. (noodle vague), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

my dad would get CRAZY on gin, my mom would fear that as opposed to his usual beer binges. I also love the gin, but i'm a happy drunk, no rage. I think everyone has a different chemistry, you can't make blanket statements, but it may be true for some......

― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

How weird. Gin doesn't make me angry, it makes me horny.

But I know that a horde of angry gin drinkers were led by my great great grand uncle to burn down most of London, so there might be some truth to it...

― harmonic generator, haircuts are for losers (kate), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

People of ILX - what am I like when I'm a gin drunk?

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

Someone told me that gin is much stronger depressant than other drinks, which explains a lot.

― stet (stet), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

Gin made me completely flip out over hearing 50 Cent and/or Usher multiple times in the same club one night. Like, I basically threw a snotty tantrum and refused to enjoy myself, then ran out of the club to go drink another martini down the street half a block away from every single one of my friends including folks who had made quite an effort to be in town hanging out with us, and my fiancee.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

I know a grumpy gin drinker. Sometimes he's even salty.

I drink gin a lot when I'm out, but it isn't very good at getting me drunk. I think I may be immune.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

in the 19th century it was kind of like crack for yer british working classes.

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

My Mam and my husband are both gin drinkers and two pleasanter and more agreeable drunks you'd be hard pressed to find. I've only been drunk on gin once, ever, when I was 19. I sat on my friend's doorstep and cried for hours about how nobody would ever love me because I was so fat and ugly and sarcastic and generally awful.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

gin sucks. then again, i don't really drink any hard alcohol anymore.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

Basically gin makes me 10% more of a dickweed than other drinks. Rum makes me 10% less of one, I think. Beer makes me hyper because I am a carbohydrate oven, wine is the new default, and whiskey these days just straight gives me a migraine. Tequila, I forget.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

I used to drink gin quite a lot

― RJG (RJG), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

a gin and tonic on an english summer's evening somewhere picturesque is pretty much fucking unbeatable.

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

probably not just in england but y'know.

― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

You can get G and T in cans for picnics which is great but also quite lethal.

― indolent girl (indolent girl), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

gin = slow burn
whiskey = angry rage

i do so love them both. plus, g&t is extremely necessary for DC summer.

― p@reene (Pareene), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

I am a gin drinker but I have learned that, in the wrong mood, having three martinis in quick succession can make me an insufferable asshole (or more so than usual), especially to my friends and family, as it's easier to find sharp, jagged, and poisonous yet pithy things to say to them since I know them better.

Otherwise, and it doesn't have to be on an English summer's evening, Enrique is quite right about the g & t's.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

The drink I'm most afraid of is mono's organic cider. That stuff sends me into a whole special place of overbearing drunken cuntishness. Way more than normal.

It was also what I drank when I met Madchen :)

― stet (stet), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

G and T is still my favourite aperitif, I can't imagine anything else pre-meal.

― breathny spears let me see the sex that you did. (noodle vague), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

I made the mistake of having a gin to calm down after an argument once.........there were tears before bedtime that evening........

― indolent girl (indolent girl), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

Whisky, especially Bourbon puts me into a homicidal rage.

― harmonic generator, haircuts are for losers (kate), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

gin makes me nauseated, not angry.

― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

but you know what milk and cheese say: "gin - makes a man mean!"

― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

I've never been much of a gin drinker - maybe I should become one just to see what happens.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

(Suspicion, it will make me friendly, shouty, hyperactive, lecherous, useless, then asleep. Just a hunch.)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, this is fascinating anecdotal stuff! I wonder why no serious studies have been done. Personally I've never noticed a correlation. Even pungent yellow homemade gin leaves me as placid as ever.

― Paul Eater (eater), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

in the 19th century it was kind of like crack for yer british working classes.

Not quite the same stuff as modern 'London dry' style gin, it was the bane of early 18th century England.

Gin shops and their hawkers used to say, 'Drunk for a ha'penny, dead drunk for a penny.'

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Not for nothing is it known as Mother's Ruin.

Actually, I love gin. I'm a happy drunk anyway, but a bottle of red followed by G&T for the rest of the night makes me a very, very happy drunk.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Bombay Sapphire gin martinis (v.dry) were a favorite of mine.No more since I quit smoking since I can't imagine having them without tobacco. Made me feel really happy and - um - excitable. But I'm a happy, excitable drunk anyways.

Bourbon followed by red wine turned me into a real assh*le once. Never again.

― Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Gin makes me a happy and relaxed drunk. Whiskey, on the other hand, makes me depressed and moody.

― mike h. (mike h.), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Mädchen, we should go out tippling some time. Red + g & t's in the right circumstances is excellent.

Red wine + tequila leads to most painful hangovers ever, btw, in my case, at least.

No alcohol 'makes me horny'. If I am horny, it merely reveals it.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

I have done some studies on the effects of drinking just one single drink in a night, though Gin & Tonic has not come under this research yet.

― Pete (Pete), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

i like gin. esp in the summertime. with lime.
i'm generally a happy drunk no matter what. until i hit that wall of ridiculous drunk, and then i'm just ridiculous/superhappy/angry/falling-down/uh. i too get the slow burn with gin - i don't "feel" drunk until 3 drinks (but I "am" drunk), but then 4+ drinks and the messiness just sneaks up on me. with scotch/whiskey, i tend to KNOW I'm drunk, which is a good thing re: when to stop (uh, sometimes.)

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

I had a bottle of red last night and all I could think about was my perfect slot car track. I can't see gin doing that.

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

woah gin totally has bad effects on me...depression in the AM, sometimes meanness during the drunk...i thought i was alone! wierd...

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

I've always heard it referred to as the 'Gin Uglies'.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Tanqueray is the tasty yum but a terrible name for your daughter!

Gin generally feels more docile than some other, tastier, more volatile boozles. Like I can drink G&Ts and just be content (in a party setting here), but rum or whisky and all of a sudden I am forcing people I just met into drinking and/or dancing contests. Gin also has the greatness of history behind it---the glamour of being tossed into a straw-filled basement of some enlightenment gin hovel, plus the decadence of bathtub gin.

― Abbott (Abbott), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

As an inveterate gin guzzler, myself, I find it telling that at least 3/4 of the people I know won't touch the stuff.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

i can get surly on gin. and argumentative. it makes me want to talk and talk and talk. whereas my old standbys wine and beer just make me fat and happy/sleepy/quiet unless i really overdo them. gin also makes me want...more gin! in a big way. it's hard for me to stop once i start on the gin and tonics. they are in my blood. wasp family. dad was a gin drunk before i was born too. i missed that part of him. i should ask my mom what he was like.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

scott otm regarding the once you start it's hard to stop thing with gin

― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

M. White, it would be a real pleasure to share RW&G&T with you.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

I'll call you, Mädchen, the next time I'm in the environs of Caledonia. :-)

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

I think I've reached a stage where alcohol-induced tiredness catches up with me faster than the drunkenness. Maybe I should switch drinks.

― Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

The drink I'm most afraid of is mono's organic cider. That stuff sends me into a whole special place of overbearing drunken cuntishness. Way more than normal.
It was also what I drank when I met Madchen :)

Wasn't she drinking gin? Whole bunch of drinking stereotypes ahoy!

(I'm drinking red wine right now, and G&T will probably follow)

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

http://homepage.usask.ca/~ras234/images/hogarth_ginlane.jpg

― adam (adam), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.masquersclub.org/masquers-scrapbook-pg16-wc-fields.jpg

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

I stopped drinking gin my first year of art school. I haven't touched it since and I can't really remember why, but I know that I told myself I'd never drink it agian. I haven't had a drop in about ten years, so there must have been a really good reason not to drink it anymore. I'm guessing depression and anger.
Vodka makes me homicidal and/or naked.
Tequila makes me delusional and mean.
Rum makes me pass out.
Whiskey makes me happy, horny and indestructible.
Scotch is devine, but makes me sad.
That's all.

― Ruthie Tooth (Ruthie Tooth), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

If vodka makes you homicidal and naked, Ruthie, you'd make for an 'interesting' date.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

If by interesting you mean "American Psycho" interesting, then yes. Buy me a bourbon instead, sugar.

― Ruthie Tooth (Ruthie Tooth), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Duly noted.

I had dinner at a Russian restaurant in Paris once, where every course was toasted with a shot of vodka. By the end of the evening, we were all toasted and then some.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

I love G&T's but almost every time I order one out at a restaurant or bar the tonic is flat. I curse the "dispenser gun." They should be required to use those little tonic bottles.

― Renard (Renard), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

tonic is flat = bar doesn't do cocktails, luv

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

G&T's give me a pleasant, anti-malarial effect.

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

i have never tried genever. the dutch gin. not like it would be easy to find in the states. does it make the dutch crazy? it's, like, the national drink.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think it's as strong though.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

It's really, really vile, Scott.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

They should be required to use those little tonic bottles.

This is so rarely done in the States but when I was in England, briefly, in March, I had a few and the taste of the tonic from the bottle makes all the difference in the world. Frankly, I think that the taste of tonic from a plastic bottle is better too, though not as good as the stuff in the little glass ones.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

it is done in the States in my kitchen

― Renard (Renard), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure if you've noticed or not, Renard, but I have yet to relish the honor of drinking in your kitchen.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

When I am drunk on gin I am a badass drummer, all Elvin Jones and shit. When I'm drunk on cheap bourbon, I ask people to slap me in the face. So there you go, science.

― mummy wrapped in bacon (nickalicious), Friday, 2 June 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

that wasn't a rebuttal, just additional info

― Renard (Renard), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

I know, Renard. I was merely joking.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

but how can it be? have you not heard big star? in a white suit with a grand piano?

― youn (youn), Friday, 2 June 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

This thread needs its patron saints:

― The Jazz Guide to Penguins on Compact Disc (Rock Hardy), Friday, 2 June 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I didn't get the hard data I was fishing for, but the thread grew and thrived like a well-watered plant. I raise my glass (of Zin) to all of you. Rehabbing of my bombastic blood-kin can wait.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Friday, 2 June 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

never heard of this angry gin phenomenon. i always heard it as gin = liquid panty remover.

― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 4 June 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

that's peach schnapps

― mike h. (mike h.), Sunday, 4 June 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Here's a patron saint for you:
http://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/GinLaneJPG.jpg

― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 5 June 2006 05:57 (nineteen years ago)

Don't anyone give Madchen a hard time! That print SHOULD be posted every foot or so of the thread.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

I like the Bombay martini(s) but never more than two...gin makes me NUTS it's like a kinda wired frenetic high unlike the mellow fire of bourbon-on-the-roxx (my other tipple). Angry? I guess that fits in there but I'm sorta of an ANGRY GUY in general (or so I've been told)and alcohol dilutes my prickliness at least temporarily.

must be an adverse reaction to the BOTANICALS is my guess

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 5 June 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

Found this when I googled "juniper anger."

"Juniper oil helps to fight anxiety, nervous tension and stress. It can clear mental clutter and confusion, revive exhausted emotions and strengthen nerves. Juniper oil helps to neutralize negative emotions, particularly anger or confusion, and imparts a feeling of emotional cleanliness and purity."

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 5 June 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

gin makes me NUTS it's like a kinda wired frenetic high

same here, I'm an easygoing guy sober and a happy, wired drunk anyway but gin adds a sketchiness and a 'high' on top of that, like my head is in a balloon and things seem possible which probably aren't.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Monday, 5 June 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

goddamn. bombay sapphire is awesome!

― Kim (Kim), Monday, 12 June 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

Tanqueray and tonic makes it possible for me to live.

― ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Monday, 12 June 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

Hendricks

― Ed (dali), Monday, 12 June 2006 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

nine months pass...

hendrick$$ is quite good, but pricey
Warm weather coming early to SoCal = me drinking a g&t right now ; )

― bobby bedelia, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 07:01 (eighteen years ago)

I used to drink a lot of gin back in the day. Well, no, that sounds wrong - when "entertaining" in my own flat, I would tend to knock back the G&Ts (usually BomSaf or Plymouth). They're too expensive out and about (I made the bartender take back a G&T in Parker Place once because their sign saying "doubles only" was barely visible to the human eye and I wasn't about to pay that) so I stick to bitter (not Angostura).

I don't remember being especially unpleasant on gin and I've never drunk enough to have a hangover. Only beer, red wine and brandy have ever made me ill but that's a quantity/lightweight issue.

I like gin, what can I say?

― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:02 (eighteen years ago)

Gin only made me angry after I saw the redesigned Plymouth bottle.

― robster, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:10 (eighteen years ago)

If, by" redesigned" you mean "empty", I'm right with you.

― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:12 (eighteen years ago)

I used to drink gin & bitter lemon and it always made me maudlin and melancholy, apart from the time I had a whole bunch of it for breakfast - that was an amazing day.

― onimo, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, G&BL too - marvellous. Just the smell of gin transports me back to those parties we used to have in Greenwich.

― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:20 (eighteen years ago)

Gin and Lilt is quite nice too.

I'm a G&T drinker, and it's never made me angry or maudlin. It makes me a bit giggly, if anything. I think it's the bubbles in the tonic wot does it.

― C J, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:21 (eighteen years ago)

I always drink gin & tonics at weddings. They make me sleepy.
(Any fans of Hendrick's?)

― M.V., Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:34 (eighteen years ago)

I never used to drink gin very much at all, but I distinctly remember feeling that G&Ts were up there with pimms as a summer drink. My worst hangover ever was down to port, and the only thing that ever made me the least bit violent was Stella. Standardly, if you and four mates go out on the Stella you can pretty much bet that by the end of the night three of you will be alseep, and the other two will be squaring up to each other shouting "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU LOOKIN' AT?" It's the chemicals, or something.

― peteR, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:34 (eighteen years ago)

G&Ts are great, but too easy to drink, especially in the summer. Hendricks is nice, Bombay Sapphire is a bit nicer I think. Any supermarket own brand is disgusting.

― Mark C, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:35 (eighteen years ago)

Oops. Should've glanced upthread.

― M.V., Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:37 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever been angry when drunk. Angry when sober, almost all the time.

― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:39 (eighteen years ago)

Awww, gin..... I miss gin. I don't have a preference really for a brand of gin, but I think that's because I love pink gins and the angostura bitters make the nuances of 'posh' gin like Hendricks harder to appreciate. We had a bottle of gordons at home, but only because we've got an optic at home (ace wedding present!) and Costco were selling proper Optic 1 litre bottles (i.e. the label was on upside down)

― Vicky, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:39 (eighteen years ago)

Gin's not so bad! It's like drinking a light bulb!

― Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

angry gin drinker right here! i am soooooo mean!

― Ai Lien, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

haha remember when i used to not drink gin.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

gin is wonderful, fuck you all

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

Easy now, strongo.

― Michael White, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

You're only a proper gin drinker if you know how many juniper berries there are on the label of the Gordons Export bottle.

― C J, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

ally when you used to not drink gin was like two months ago.

― I DIED, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

You say that, CJ, but they always look blurry to me.

― Michael White, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

that's the funniest part, brian!

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

I'm very proud of your rehab, gin will get even more awesome when the weather gets warmer.

― I DIED, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

my favorite gins:
Miller's Westbourne Strength
Junipero
Old Raj

― I DIED, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

I could have sworn you drank gin in SF, Ally, but then I most certainly was and that may have colored my memory, slightly.

― Michael White, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

the thing is that i discovered this one
http://www.liquorsnob.com/archives/pictures/rangpur-gin-bottle-thumb.jpg
and i am in love with it.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

8 gin cocktails/mixed drinks the DCILX crew will drink to excess this summer:

aviation
gimlet
french 75
gin rickey
negroni
bronx
signapore sling
g&t

― I DIED, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

I still have to try that.

― Michael White, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

michael, you bought me a gin drink there and i did drink it, you are correct. but i also drank everything in the world that night(s). san francisco was actually out of drink for a few days because of us, i think.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha! I wonder what it was I ordered?

― Michael White, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

gimlets are the best
brian you left tom collins off the list?

― daria-g, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

Gimlets ARE great!

― Michael White, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

Gin doesn't make me angry. Red wine, however, is another story. It's so bad I can't touch the stuff. Unless I'm just having a glass or 2 with a meal and not getting drunk.

― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

sorry dar1a I had to rep for the gin rickey, dc style. Nothing against a tom collins.

― I DIED, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

gin rickey sounds ace, I don't think I've had that. no extra sugar right? perfect. in fact, i want one right now

― daria-g, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

I've never tied specific drinks to anger, except Wild Turkey, which made me angry that I got sick.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

i've had five gin and tonics tonight and am not yet angry! should i have more? or will i be angry the next day

― bell_labs, Thursday, 15 March 2007 03:45 (eighteen years ago)

i want a million gin and tonics right now

― gbx, Thursday, 15 March 2007 03:52 (eighteen years ago)

ps this is totally OTM and describes my life in perfect detail

Basically gin makes me 10% more of a dickweed than other drinks. Rum makes me 10% less of one, I think. Beer makes me hyper because I am a carbohydrate oven, wine is the new default, and whiskey these days just straight gives me a migraine. Tequila, I forget.

― gbx, Thursday, 15 March 2007 03:53 (eighteen years ago)

except for wine being the new default -- i am poor and drink beers

― gbx, Thursday, 15 March 2007 03:54 (eighteen years ago)

i'm having #6. will blame gbx if hangover is horrible!

― bell_labs, Thursday, 15 March 2007 04:03 (eighteen years ago)

i like gin so far! gin gin gin gin gin gin gin

― bell_labs, Thursday, 15 March 2007 04:07 (eighteen years ago)

I haven't had gin in years, but now I want a gimlet.

― Oilyrags, Thursday, 15 March 2007 04:09 (eighteen years ago)

I want to see some fucking anger around here. That's the whiskey talking.

― aimurchie, Thursday, 15 March 2007 04:15 (eighteen years ago)

i'm still not angry of gimlet 6 :(

ISHOULD DRINK MORE SHOULDN'T I

― bell_labs, Thursday, 15 March 2007 04:26 (eighteen years ago)

Yes!

― aimurchie, Thursday, 15 March 2007 04:33 (eighteen years ago)

aimurchie you are so right.

― bell_labs, Thursday, 15 March 2007 04:37 (eighteen years ago)

i'm still not angry tho. (#7 gin timez)

"gin" is awfully close to "gym" i noticed today. maybe they have similar effects?

― bell_labs, Thursday, 15 March 2007 04:40 (eighteen years ago)

today i went to the "gin"

― bell_labs, Thursday, 15 March 2007 04:45 (eighteen years ago)

Lifting the drink to your mouth is, well, a "lift". Sometimes a "curl".
Did you have to go to the fridge for mixers? That's pretty much a "sit up". You worked some abs.
You should feel proud of your workout.

― aimurchie, Thursday, 15 March 2007 05:08 (eighteen years ago)

gin is nice. i'm not an angry drunk ever, i don't think... i don't have that gene in me anywhere. i'm 99% more likely to pass out in a corner than to start a bar brawl.

― get bent, Thursday, 15 March 2007 05:31 (eighteen years ago)

i always liked gin best back when i was drinking, it never made me angry or mean, bourbon did though, it turned me into a pretending-to-give-you-a-kiss-lip-biter.

― estela, Thursday, 15 March 2007 05:35 (eighteen years ago)

everything makes me angry. hi-c even.

― chaki, Thursday, 15 March 2007 05:43 (eighteen years ago)

maybe it's the meth

― gershy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 05:48 (eighteen years ago)

not funny.

― chaki, Thursday, 15 March 2007 05:50 (eighteen years ago)

still waiting for the anger to set in!

― bell_labs, Thursday, 15 March 2007 05:51 (eighteen years ago)

I just ran out of cigarettes, so perhaps I can be angry for you?

― aimurchie, Thursday, 15 March 2007 06:00 (eighteen years ago)

i just woke up from a nap, so i'm sort of cranky.

― gbx, Thursday, 15 March 2007 06:44 (eighteen years ago)

I am being angry on a different thread - and there is no gin involved!
But I'm snorting mad.
Plus I got some cigs;otherwise, well, hell hath no fury, etc.

― aimurchie, Thursday, 15 March 2007 07:54 (eighteen years ago)

I drank G&Ts and then gin gimlets for years and years but eventually had to take a break! Maybe this summer I'll try again. For tonight, I stick with peppermint tea.

― Laurel, Thursday, 15 March 2007 07:59 (eighteen years ago)

i went gimlet-crazy at an open bar a couple months ago. the bartender didn't have fresh limes though, just skanky bottled lime juice.

― get bent, Thursday, 15 March 2007 08:06 (eighteen years ago)

Also, if I stick to gimlets all night the lime juice makes my throat all manky the next day like nothing else, it feels like I've smoked half a pack more than I actually have. They hate me, but I love them.

― Laurel, Thursday, 15 March 2007 08:12 (eighteen years ago)

meeting my bros tonite for "a drink" so today's dilemma TS: gin VS bourbon? (I need my brane tomorrow)

― m coleman, Thursday, 15 March 2007 10:11 (eighteen years ago)

This thread had an undue influence on my dreams. In amongst a lot of other stuff (including cats being killed by toothpaste) M White bough me a G&T in a bar in a suburb of Chicago. Ally was suppoed to come, but she didn't turn up.

― Anna, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:04 (eighteen years ago)

gin does not make me angry. it makes me totally clear-headed and slightly contemplative, even after four drinks, and makes me believe that all my decisions are sound, esp the decisions that include drinking more gin, and even more so the decisions that include drinking beer/shots/vodka on top of all the gin, to shake off the contemplative and get into the rowdy. in this way, gin never really becomes the enemy. it is smart like that.

― rrrobyn, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

(also, yeah, i am not an angry drunk. happy, loud, dancey, flirty, forgetful, fall-downy, in extremes pass-outy, pos barfy, yes.)

― rrrobyn, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

the last time i drank gin, i vommed in the ladies' room of the friars club. i thought perhaps it was actually the tonic that always made me sick, so i gave martinis a go. bad idea.

― lauren, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

(haha i just saw that i wrote kinda the same thing in 2006. nothing changes re: gin.)

― rrrobyn, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

I hear tonic is notorious for that, Lauren.

― Laurel, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

yes, well. it really does disgust me. i'm often given vodka tonics instead of the vodka sodas that i order, and even a sip of the stuff makes me gag.

― lauren, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

We should drink together soon and give various permuatations of gin a test run, don't you think? But I'm sickly again and have bike project to do, so I'm not sure when...? Rats.

― Laurel, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

i'm steering clear of mother's ruin from now on!

― lauren, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2f/Boodles_British_Gin.png/371px-Boodles_British_Gin.png

― Beth Parker, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

the last time i drank gin, i vommed in the ladies' room of the friars club.

so much to love about this post

― strongohulkington, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

according to my mother, gin taken straight is a "whore's drink."

just FYI

― river wolf, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

There is no such thing as an angry gin drinker. Well, there could be, but it's due to learned behavior. There's no direct cause between the drink or an ingredient in the drink and being aggressive as the latter is a learned behavior.

― nathalie, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

what will stop a gin hangover? i'm thinking indian food??

― bell_labs, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

re: friars club incident, i was in semi-formal wear at the time.

― lauren, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

No hard science allowed on this thread, only hearsay, mud-slinging, and urban legends ca. 1825 w/r/t whores and lower working-class parenting.

― Laurel, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

So pretty much the usual ilx guidelines apply.

― Oilyrags, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

"gin makes ya grin"

also: gin-soaked cherries as arthritis treatment

― pj, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

I've heard gin soaked raisins

― tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

I don't really get "angry," in that my mood has no real object, but I do start thinking myself awfully clever to insult people. Aggro but never aggrieved. Taken in enough amount, one liquor is as good for this as another.

― kenan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

At my 16th birthday party I hid a bottle of gin under a bush and returned to surreptitiously swig from it at intervals during the night. The resulting Hulk rage may not have been entirely due to the gin. I think it was more to do with my friend cutting my grass with the guy I'd had a crush on when I was 12.

― Hard like armour, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

is "cutting my grass" a euphemism, or were you really upset that they mowed the lawn?
I want more details, please.

― aimurchie, Thursday, 15 March 2007 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

I am going to go buy some gin and roses right now. I have been recommended "Brokers" a gin that has a hat on the bottle. We will see.

― Oilyrags, Thursday, 15 March 2007 22:50 (eighteen years ago)

I think she's saying she passed out from the gin and they shaved her pubes.

― nabisco, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:03 (eighteen years ago)

(P.S. I'd be mad about that, too.)

― nabisco, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:03 (eighteen years ago)

it's a horrid territorial phrase often used in australia: if you have your sights set on someone nobody else is allowed to get with them. it makes me feel a bit ill, mainly because a dreadful girl on big brother a couple of years ago used it constantly so i always see her mutinous aggressive rusty handmower face whenever i hear it.

― estela, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:21 (eighteen years ago)

wow that's really foul.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 15 March 2007 23:27 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah, that's gooooooooood gimlet!

Good third gimlet, if you wanna get technical about it.

― Oilyrags, Friday, 16 March 2007 01:50 (eighteen years ago)

I am going to go buy some gin and roses right now. I have been recommended "Brokers" a gin that has a hat on the bottle. We will see.

Oilyrags on Thursday, 15 March 2007 22:50 (Yesterday)

i got a bottle of this shit right now, i threw the plastic hat off before i even left the store (underneath is a respectable metal cap)

― and what, Friday, 16 March 2007 01:56 (eighteen years ago)

I think it would make a good accessory for an appropriately sized action figure or bobblehead.

How you taking yours?

― Oilyrags, Friday, 16 March 2007 01:58 (eighteen years ago)

soda water, occasional shot of cranberry

feel better already

― and what, Friday, 16 March 2007 02:32 (eighteen years ago)

I gave up and passed out underneath said bush with my bottle of gin. People could have come to shave my pubes and I would not have known. The friend married a Mormon the following year when she turned 18. I went to the engagement party. There was no gin there though.

― Hard like armour, Friday, 16 March 2007 03:59 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

Nineteen botanicals!

http://www.drinkswap.com/images/bevfull/56804.jpg

Do you hear me? NINETEEN!

― Oilyrags, Friday, 12 October 2007 00:44 (seventeen years ago)

I am very happy this thread exists. Drunkology is an underappreciated science.

― Aimless, Friday, 12 October 2007 01:35 (seventeen years ago)

I got to really like hendricks and soda water on the rocks but that shit is too delicious and expensive

― El Tomboto, Friday, 12 October 2007 01:39 (seventeen years ago)

Ah, nice timing.

Does anyone know if it'd be possible to make jelly (jello for u mericans) shots out of gin and tonic? WOuld they set?

― Trayce, Friday, 12 October 2007 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

I am wondering if the fizz might mess with the setting properties of the gelatin.

...which I've just realised also isnt vegetarian. Bugger.

― Trayce, Friday, 12 October 2007 01:40 (seventeen years ago)

Can you not get vegetarian gelatin? (I realize like vegan cheese this is a not quite right concept)

I'm not sure what the carbonation would do to the setting but it would be interesting to find out.

I can't drink gin anymore, unfortunately.

― Misery, Friday, 12 October 2007 01:46 (seventeen years ago)

I can.. a gin & t in the summertime is the best

― W4LTER, Friday, 12 October 2007 01:48 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah thats right agar is vegetarian... but I dont have time to scour a healthfood store to find... its no biggie really.

― Trayce, Friday, 12 October 2007 01:49 (seventeen years ago)

I can.. a gin & t in the summertime is the best

I did love me a g&t back in the day but fortunately I've always thought summer was made for margaritas and beer.

― Misery, Friday, 12 October 2007 01:50 (seventeen years ago)

Wait...making jello (jelly) out of alcoholic drinks? I mean...LOL that is a downright funny concept. It seems like even if that worked it would lose its alcoholic properties, kinda like hot toddies (toddys?) do.

― Bimble, Friday, 12 October 2007 04:43 (seventeen years ago)

Trayce, it would work fine, you might have to double the amount of agar or gelatin. I made a fantastic g&t sorbet a few years ago that was esp. perfect in the hot summer, but did have egg whites in it so also not vegan.

― Jaq, Friday, 12 October 2007 04:49 (seventeen years ago)

...you've never had a jellyshot before bimble!? (I cant bring myself to call it "jello" sorry)

Vodka jelly! It is awesome! And while you make jelly with boiling water, you then add the vodka after it's cooled off a little. It doesnt lose any of the alcohol believe me.

― Trayce, Friday, 12 October 2007 04:50 (seventeen years ago)

Jaq: cool! I didnt think of sorbet, what an awesome idea. Said friend is not vegan, I just try and avoid gelatin and rennet for obvious animally-bits reasons. Even tho I am not veggie myself I think it is good practice to try and aim for it in much of my host-cooking anyway :)

― Trayce, Friday, 12 October 2007 04:51 (seventeen years ago)

The recipe I used is halfway down this page: http://www.ginvodka.org/cocktail/ginrecipes.html I made it in an ice-cream maker though, not hand-whipped.

― Jaq, Friday, 12 October 2007 04:55 (seventeen years ago)

Awsome thanks! I might give that a try some time this summer :D

― Trayce, Friday, 12 October 2007 04:56 (seventeen years ago)

I have been thinking for some time I want the central woman from Gin Lane as a tattoo.

― aldo, Friday, 12 October 2007 10:03 (seventeen years ago)

All this talk of Gin and Tonics - especially Hendricks, which is just a stellar, stellar booze - has put me in the mood to drink some. I HIGHLY recommend Hendricks and tonic with cucumber instead of lime. Truly a sublime drink.

This will have to happen tomorrow, though, as it gets too cool in the evenings to drink such a fine drink. I think that I will be passing out EARLAY tonight, and then getting my drank on tomorrow.

― B.L.A.M., Friday, 12 October 2007 18:11 (seventeen years ago)

I don't know about the long-term effects of gin, as I only ever drink it acople times a year... but it always reminds me of xmas as a kid! i think it's that juniper-is-like-pine-to-my-uneducated-palate (sp?) factor. And from ages 0-10 we always had real xmas trees.

― Will M., Friday, 12 October 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago)

this water makes humanz smell funny

― a puppy, Friday, 12 October 2007 19:35 (seventeen years ago)

I have been thinking for some time I want the central woman from Gin Lane as a tattoo.
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― Oilyrags, Friday, 12 October 2007 19:49 (seventeen years ago)

Huh. I can't see the picture I posted last night here at work. Just in case no one else can either, that was Citadelle that has the 19 botanicals.

Lately I've been taking all my gin in extra-dry martini form: rinse the glass with vermouth, use a vegetable peeler to get a strand of lemon peel in the glass, take gin from freezer and shake vigorously, pour, yum.

― Oilyrags, Friday, 12 October 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago)

God, Hendricks gin is heaven

― Bill Magill, Friday, 12 October 2007 20:05 (seventeen years ago)

so i'm alone in not liking hendrick's then? nice bottle though.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 12 October 2007 20:14 (seventeen years ago)

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e391/marthasminions/ugandawaragi.jpg

I found this empty bottle when I was emptying out my late sister's house.

― Beth Parker, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:16 (seventeen years ago)

I did not empty it.

― Beth Parker, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:17 (seventeen years ago)

I HIGHLY recommend Hendricks and tonic with cucumber instead of lime. Truly a sublime drink.

Ha, totally without seeing this thread this is exactly what I am drinking this minute.

― Alba, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:49 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, my second glass is just finished. DO I MAKE ANOTHER?

All this stuff about particular psychoactive properties of certain spirits is all just bollocks, though.

― Alba, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:50 (seventeen years ago)

I don't know about that. I once got a decidedly druggy feel from tequila, after not having it for a long time.

― Beth Parker, Friday, 12 October 2007 23:53 (seventeen years ago)

I HIGHLY recommend Hendricks and tonic with cucumber instead of lime. Truly a sublime drink.

totally OTM. i have resisted buying Hendricks over here, as it's even more expensive, but i suspect i won't hold out much longer...

― toby, Saturday, 13 October 2007 00:05 (seventeen years ago)

My wife got me a bottle of Hendricks recently, and I've enjoyed it a lot.

Unfortunately, Gin, like all alcohol for me, makes me happy for a very brief time and then I fall asleep.

― Moodles, Saturday, 13 October 2007 02:10 (seventeen years ago)

'v_v'

thanks BevMo

― strgn, Saturday, 13 October 2007 06:07 (seventeen years ago)

five years pass...

gibsons underrated imo

no anger

― buzza, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 06:02 (twelve years ago)

I think this is all bullshit. alcohol is alcohol. abv is all that matters.

― wk, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 06:05 (twelve years ago)

I don't thinkbthat there is anything in the chemical composition of the different spirits that lead to the perception of different effects, but that psychological associations withthe various flavor profiles might lead to different behavioral effects. I don't really know though. Just an idle thought. Whatdo they say about Robitussin drinkers. ;)

― mbvgz (how's life), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 11:24 (twelve years ago)

i still agree with the gin thing. i am a very happy/placid/unobtrusive drunk and gin really the only thing that has ever made me a pissed off drunk. but i have to drink a lot of it.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:39 (twelve years ago)

http://cowsarejustfood.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/milk_cheese.jpg

― brimstead, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:00 (twelve years ago)

Martin Miller is great if yr into really floral gin

― brimstead, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:02 (twelve years ago)

In centuries past of course gin was swill for the lower classes, so that would account for early accounts. Was curious whether there was any mechanistic evidence for gin (in particular, the major flavor components that distinguish it from vodka) and aggression. So I visited my usual haunt:

β-pinene has antidepressant properties.
α-phellandrene reduces pain sensitivity (in mice).
β-caryophyllene reduces anxiety (in mice).
β-myrcene reduces pain sensitivity, but has few other neurological effects (in mice).

I can only conclude from my survey (of dozens of abstracts, mostly relating to insect behavior) that there's little published evidence for gin flavorant monoterpenes and sesquiterpenes causing aggressive behavior in animal models. The null hypothesis, that its just the ethanol, still stands.

― with perhaps the exception of r-r-r-r-rhythm (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:28 (twelve years ago)

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