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WICKER MAN remake trailer is up
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/thewickerman/hd/

I know this has been mentioned on other threads but thought it deserved its own special place. This is shaping up for a real "banner" year for cage with this dreck & the WTC opus. Also, putting flick in American context = mega-dud. Neil LaBute being director is weird as hell, too.

timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

I thought this would be about Ghost Rider. It doesn't matter though, both movies look like they're going to be pretty rotten. At least Nic has a camp moustache for the WTC movie.

Bluebell Madonna (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

i forgot GR - trifecta of cheese!

timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 01:51 (nineteen years ago)

Now why did he win an Oscar again?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 01:53 (nineteen years ago)

don't look too bad actually, although it won't be able to match the creepiness of the original.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

Was the head-on collision/exploding-girl in the original?

milo z (mlp), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

> Now why did he win an Oscar again?

It wasn't for "Raising Arizona" but if you want to remember why you care, that's the one to watch.

Keywords: revenge, knife, granddaughter, demonic-possession, rock-star, eel (Aus, Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

Valley Girl is so long ago now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

the original opens with the seaplane landing to the sweet sounds of "corn rigs"

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

"In the original, Woodward's character was a virgin, making him ideal for sacrifice. That element has been ditched from the remake, because it was thought that while audiences would accept the idea of an American community that practised human sacrifice, the idea of a grown-up virgin was just too farfetched.

Instead, Cage's character has acquired a serious allergy to bees and travels with a bee-sting kit, as well as rosary beads and self-help tapes."

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:10 (nineteen years ago)

Ned OTM - he actually was quite appealing in a goofy sort of way back then, now....... well, it's hard not to laugh.

timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

"virginity? no way... how about a severe bee allergy?"

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

it's an allergory!

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

the idea of a grown-up virgin was just too farfetched

Clearly someone needs to mashup this movie with a certain Steve Carell vehicle.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

"the last american wicker virgin man"

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:15 (nineteen years ago)

"the lion, the witch and the wicker man"

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

rumble fish
the cotton club
peggy sue got married
moonstruck
wild at heart
(kinda) leaving las vegas
bringing out the dead
adaptation
(mostly kinda) matchstick men
(stretching, but kinda) the weather man

he's been in plenty of pretty good movies... what contemporary actors (or rather, movie stars) who have been in as many movies as he has have been in this many good ones?
he's not my favorite actor or anything, but seriously, who has?

also, labute can be awesome. an actor who has done some good shit (and recently), a director who has done some good shit (and recently), combined with an awesome story and something that seems completely untranslatable to a mainstream audience, this should at least be interesting, right?

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

no.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm tempted to say, "This could work, but only if they kill him at the end." But I spent a lot of time saying a similar thing about "V for Vendetta" -- "This could work, but only if they leave the terrorist angle in," and they did, but it turned out to be worse than an angry disappointment, it was a snooze. There are many ways a movie can be bad.

sinful caesar sipped his snifter (kenan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:28 (nineteen years ago)

TS: Nic Cage vs. Bill Murray as best middle-aged droopy face guy who's kinda lost his way and just sighs a lot through the picture, until he finds something to care about again like his family or a hot girl half his age.

Cage was miscast as Brad's Bud in "Fast Times." Shoulda been The Anthony Edwards Stoner Bud and vice-versa.

slugbuggy (slugbuggy), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

THIS IS THE WORST THING I HAVE EVER HEARD! No one can top the original Wicker Man! Maybe the idea someone had on another thread of Alan Whicker chatting with Lord Summerisle through the whole movie, but otherwise, NOOOOOO!!!!! And WTF, bee stings? Is he going to be lured into his sacrificial pagan trap by an Epi-pen? And this preview. It sounds like they got fucking fake Charlotte Church to do this score, not fake Comus! Where the hell is this modern rural America where they sell only Irish sailor sweaters for the men and Cindy Brady dresses for the little girls and write school ledgers in inkwell calligraphy? I am pissed. Pissed!

Abbott (Abbott), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

http://cinema.gothic.ru/moviestills/vampires_kiss4.jpg

he might not actually remember much about making Vampire's Kiss, but he was pretty great in it.

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

No Paul Giovanni, no credibility.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 00:56 (nineteen years ago)

he might not actually remember much about making Vampire's Kiss, but he was pretty great in it.

You just love the cockroach consumption.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

pffft. the cockroach eating is totally over-hyped. it doesn't even make the top twenty best moments in that film!

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

I have a feeling you should start a Vampire's Kiss thread if there isn't one already. (T/S that vs. The Dark Backward)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

well i dunno if i have that much to say about it, but i do think he should seriously consider wearing these plastic bitey teeth for all future films.

http://www.kino.orc.ru/js/review/stills/vampire_kiss1.jpg

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

T/S:

http://www.houseofhorrors.com/wicker2.jpg
Vs.
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f122/robhatchmiller/ellen.jpg

I think we all know who wins.

Hatch (Hatch), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

God this looks bad. Part of the greatness of the original is the texture it gains through the depiction of pagan culture (both its good and bad points), but here they seem to have become boring old satanists. Bet he doesn't die at the end.

chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

You know what I'm still mad about? When they got Nic Cage, John Malkovich, and Jon Cusack together to make a movie. The result? Con Air.

Bobby Peru (Bobby Peru), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

I love the original but I'm not totally put off by an American remake. If - IF - it can tap into the older, wierder American folk culture as the original utilised British pagan/folk songs and ceremonies.

No Paul Giovanni, no credibility.

Yeah, the music was so integral to the original, it'll be crucial as to what is used in the remake.

David Orton (scarlet), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I spent several hours in the company of someone whose favourite films ever is Vampire's Kiss the other day and he talked about it for a very very very long time. It sounded appalling, but if that's what the fake plastic teeth is all about, then I may revise that opinion.

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

If - IF - it can tap into the older, wierder American folk culture as the original utilised British pagan/folk songs and ceremonies.

It'll be boring old satanists all the way, mark my words.

chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
Saw the trailer yesterday. Nic Cage shouting "Who is the WICKER MAN?!?!" ... this might be the most rofflicious remake of all time. That's the best we can hope for anyway.

ledge (ledge), Monday, 26 June 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

This is going to be a banner year for rofflicious Nic Cage movies.

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Monday, 26 June 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

sounds appalling

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 26 June 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
ANYONE SEE IT?

Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

seeing it today... will report back

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 4 September 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

oh noes bees

stet (stet), Monday, 4 September 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

God I hate Nicolas Cage so much. Barry Norman really put his finger on it when he said that the problem with Nicolas Cage is that he makes it all look so hard. He looks like he's doing hard sums all the time in every fucking film he's in. I hate him. He's plodding and boring and where anyone got the idea that his horsey face is even vaguely attractive is beyond me.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 4 September 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

I tried to watch the original but gave up after discovering it's a MUSICAL. A horrible, hippie pagan musical.

milo z (mlp), Monday, 4 September 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

you're insane

btw this was so fucking awful... what a joke. totally idiotic, misogynistic, everything good about the original excised in favour of horrible back-story and renaissance faire bullshit

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

TRISH YOU RULE

I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

yes you do!

jed_ (jed), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

Fellow Chilxor Milkmaid and I have tentative plans to wait outside local theaters and immolate one attendee from each showing in protest of this remake.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 4 September 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

from the first post on the thread: Neil LaBute being director is weird as hell, too.

when the opening credits ran I was like 'hey that name is familiar, what else did he direct again?' and then I moved on, but by the time Nicolas Cage is screaming "YOU BITCHES" at the top of his lungs I was like 'oh yeah, now I remember'

goes without saying that it can't even begin to compare to the original, and the direction is very very very poor, so much leaden tedium, great casting but phoned in acting, etc. but the film's fantastically paranoid gender war spin on the original is so unbelievable, when it turns the final corner and begins underlining it's female-thesis, it goes over the line into watchably bad. I saw this on a date with a friend was laughing hysterically through the last third and on the way out she said 'well, what are you even going to do with that'

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

i know right?? when nic cage starts punching teenage girls in the face it really enters gonzo badness territory

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone else find it strange that he won an Oscar once upon a time?

trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

no

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

i think half his problem is that he's in almost literally every movie that comes out

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 04:19 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my god does this seriously feature Nicholas Cage sucker punching women???? I have got to see this.

Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (allyzay), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, i think you just sold me on an unsellable movie. maybe i'll see something else and sneak in.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

I think I read somehwere (perhaps even here) that the original was the lower part of a bill shared with Don't Look Now. I have never seen Don't Look Now, but what a double whammy, eh? And now they are both newspaper freebies.

Perhaps this should be on the 1986 thread.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

I would consider Cage's repeated coldcocking of women in this film a spoiler but now that the cat's out of the bag, yes that's the exact moment the entire audience seemed to go 'oh, okay'

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

hahahahahaha

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

I feel sorry for Aaron Eckhart nowadays too, because every time I see him he reminds me of how much I hate Neil LaBute and I want to land one right on his chin bum.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Neil Labute is usually great. Aaron Eckhart looks like Jussi Jaaskelainen.

The Ultimate Conclusion (lokar), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

you a big possession/nurse betty/shape of things fan?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Nic Cage punching girls in the face! WTF, cinema?

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe this is going to be set in America. Who could
support such an awful, awful decision? It's unbelievable. I'll
still watch it, of course - you never know.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

i know :(

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

The film's dedicated to late musician Johnny Ramone, who introduced Nicolas Cage to Robin Hardy's original film.

Fuck you anyway Johnny...

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

What's wrong with setting a wicker man film in America? Is it paganism intrinisically unamerican or something?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

Have you seen the original?

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

Err... yeah. But it was a different film.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

"Is it paganism intrinisically unamerican or something"

pretty much. this country was founded by Puritans you know. There is no history of paganism in the US like there is in Europe. the closest we come is highly diluted rituals/motifs imported from Africa and the Caribbean.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

(at least until you get to modern times and mass media)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

What Shakey said.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

Neil Labute is usually great.

HAHANO.

rogermexico (rogermexico), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

And faux-celtic paganism in America is all too cute and new-agey.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.columbia.edu/~rlb7/jpegs/serpent.jpg

Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

I suppose so, but it's... a story. There are no pagan communities living off the West Coast of Scotland either for that matter. And I don't think wicker men were really ever used for human sacrifice either.

I dunno. It just seems a silly reason to object to a horror film, that it's unrealistic or something.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

the fact is paganism has much deeper cultural resonance in a European context than in an American one.

wicker men were used for all kinds of sacrifices, including human, at least according to "The Golden Bough". And there have been all kinds of pagan communities in Scotland throughout history (regardless of whether there's any there NOW, surely you can see how their previous actual existence would be relevant/lend weight to a horror story?!)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

think about it, what makes a scarier plot device: a creepy group of people with ties to ancient and mysterious powers/rituals, or a creepy group of people with ties to a pop-culture phenomenon stretching back less than 30 years.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

they downplay the actual paganist rituals in the new version that were so detailed in the original. here, the only thing the film needs you to know about these women is that they're all witches
The film's dedicated to late musician Johnny Ramone, who introduced Nicolas Cage to Robin Hardy's original film.

when the credits came up on the words 'dedicated to Johnny Ramone', right the big ending, well... we were just... we didn't know anything anymore

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

right _after_ the big ending, etc.

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

Shirley Jackson's short story the Lottery is a perfect example of how this kind of story does work in an american context. It's quite famous, a town draw a lottery once a year and the loser is stoned to death. Settler communities of pilgrims are easy to imagine falling into savagery of the sort that is in the original film. "That first winter was hard, we had to eat the children" style.

See also Stephen King.

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

according to wikipedia, Julius Caesar was the first to note the druids' use of wicker men for human sacrifice.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

haha of course the Lottery works so well because its explicitly about PURITANISM aka one of the most American things there is. As opposed to new age women and honeybees which is... well, I don't know what it is.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think The Golden Bough is very reliable. Anyways, Mark Kermode (who tends to be a bit of a nerd about such things) and err.. wikipedia, yes say the evidence for them ever being used for human sacrifice is somewhat sketchy.

Anyway, yes, I realise I'm being a bit awkward, but the point is yes in an obvious sense The Wicker Man obviously fits better in a British context, but y'know, art doesn't always work best by following the rules of obvious fit.

I fully expect The Wicker Man (2006) to be a load of toss, based on what I've heard and seen here and elsewhere, but to make such assumptions simply on the basis of where it's set... no.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

Full disclaimer: I think The Wicker Man (1973) is mostly a load of toss too, at least when it come to the end being supposedly scary (and I scare easily). It's like Carry On Sacrificing!

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

Well, it was a Hammer film. So IOW, a B movie, but much
better than your average B movie.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

I know it's explicitly about Puritanism, but that can frighten in the same way that paganism does in that it inhabits our imagination as a lost and cultish society, uncivilised in a sense, foreign but staining the soil we thread on.
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow plays on these themes as well. The film is less about paganism per se than something as driven as that, isolated and festering. It's nearly like the past reaching from the ground and terrorising us.
Another film I'd draw in is Breaking the Waves, which is also set on Scotland's west coast and also has small isolated communities (this time the damnation is of the soul and the cult is Presbyterianism) that do outlandish things. If the film isn't so explicitly about Paganism as is being suggested than it's not really all that important a ground to criticise on.

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

Puritanism gets a bad rap. The puritans were tops at producing
hardworking farmers and tenacious warriors, the most valuable resources for any budding society.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

TS:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000068IET.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
VS.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00009PY3X.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

literalisp (literalisp), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

pretty much. this country was founded by Puritans you know. There is no history of paganism in the US like there is in Europe. the closest we come is highly diluted rituals/motifs imported from Africa and the Caribbean.

-- Shakey Mo Collier (audiobo...), September 5th, 2006.

that is the most brainless thing you'ever written

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 02:39 (nineteen years ago)

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/466237/2/istockphoto_466237_ancient_spirits_totem_pole_1.jpg

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

Hello? Hello! Anybody home? We've been talking strictly about WHITE paganism for this whole thread. I think that's perfectly clear from the context of the discussion (the american remake of _The Wicker Man_).

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 02:58 (nineteen years ago)

Although I have to say, northwestern totemic art can be quite creepy and alien. I'd love to see it exploited in a horror movie, maybe a family of Russian missionaries gets kidnapped in the 1880's? Too unPC to fly, though.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

Interesting review by a modern pagan with a good understanding of the history of the film here: http://www.witchvox.com/va/dt_va.html?a=usma&c=media&id=11130

spectra (spectra), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't seen the remake (or any of the director's previous films) but it sounds like the bee thing is used in as a misogynistic analogy - female domination

spectra (spectra), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 04:10 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of what goes on in the original Wicker Man is alive and kicking in the Basque Country, such as the hobby horse man. So it's far-fecthed, but not too far-fetched. I will look for evidence.

I liked Nurse Betty very much for some reason.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 06:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, it was good.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 06:18 (nineteen years ago)

It would have been improved by having Greg Kinnear burned alive in a big wicker man at the end though.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 06:22 (nineteen years ago)

Or Roy Kinnear, one of the two.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 06:23 (nineteen years ago)

Begira!

http://www.buber.net/Basque/PhotoAlbum/index.php?spgmGal=Events/Others&spgmPic=0&spgmFilters=t

http://www.buber.net/Basque/PhotoAlbum/index.php?spgmGal=Events/Others&spgmPic=1&spgmFilters=t

You is up early, Nick.

I rthought you meant Roy Kinnear first time. What wouldn't be improved by Roy Kinnear though?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 06:24 (nineteen years ago)

Is that you in any of the pictures, Peter?

I'm up early to have some stiches taken out and collect an LP from the sorting office before I go to work, which would be improved by Roy Kinnear.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 06:27 (nineteen years ago)

was the pagan content of this:

1) better
2) worse
3) the same as, only, like, more

the wicca/goth chicks in Blair Witch 2: Book of Shadows?

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 06:29 (nineteen years ago)

The sword thing:

http://static.flickr.com/68/162207274_8bb7d5f28e_m.jpg

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 06:42 (nineteen years ago)

Pretty picture:

http://static.flickr.com/57/170515397_b86b080bd3_m.jpg

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 06:43 (nineteen years ago)

y'know, i was sorta not beliving the "nicky coppola punches chicks" thing posted above, but the onion av club says:

Lacking the religious conflict to give his story a focus, writer-director LaBute coats the proceedings in his usual dreary misogyny, recasting Summerisle as a colony of evil, manipulative shrews. But even the spectacle of Cage running around the island punching women full in the face and screaming "Bitches!" isn't as problematic as Wicker Man's gigantic plot holes, interminable empty dialogue, cheap shocks, and uneven stabs at tension.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 07:54 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/91/235850371_bac4e24b2c_o.jpg

Kim (Kim), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

incidentally the johnny ramone thing was kinda the best punchline ever. i finally lost it at that point and totally cracked up.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

LAFF A MINUTE ROMP. In flashbacks every 10 minutes, a little girl gets hit by a truck repeatedly. Nic Cage punches a bitch to steal her bear costume, and then punches many more bitches while wearing that bear costume. Ellen Burstyn wears Braveheart make-up. Molly Parker is foxy and beguiling in a totally stupid way; Nic Cage steals her bike at gunpoint anyway. Leelee Sobieski has a little red mouth that does all her acting for her, and in the final scene begins to seduce James Franco, setting up what is sure to be WICKER MAN 2: THE WICKERING.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

how bout those blind twins

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

I wanted this to be a Ghost Rider thread.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

I hafta go see this drunk. This is becoming increasingly clear.

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

have fun watching a boring movie drunk!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa shakey's nonsensical posts make me want to LIKE this movie.

Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (allyzay), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

Also: still dying over concept of Nick Cage running around in a bear costume punching ladies and screaming "BITCHES"

Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (allyzay), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds like the basis for an Aqua Teen full-length.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

I watched Final Destination 2 in a similar state. You need a big group of loser friends, some of whom may vomit in the theatre and ideally it ought to be Valentines Day!

Life's never boring when you're drunk.

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

yeah but the final destination movies are awesome!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

You say my problem is I don't remember...

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

You *see my problem is...

answers on a postcard

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm kind of happy to hear this is awful. A mediocre remake is the ultimate insult.

Sounds like it has the makings of a good drinking game, though. Cage furrows brow, take a drink. Cage hits a chick, take a drink.

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

should be done in the theatre though.

Also stripping ought to be involved somehow, as in all good things in life.

Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

*drink every time there is a bee onscreen (this will keep you chugging)
*drink every time Cage says "I'm a police officer" or similar
*drink every time Cage says "A little girl is missing" or similar
*drink every time little girl is hit by truck
*two drinks every time blind crone twins appear
*finish drink every time Cage punches a bitch

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't seen the remake (or any of the director's previous films) but it sounds like the bee thing is used in as a misogynistic analogy - female domination

I'm not sure if it would be a spoiler to post what the women are chanting at the end, but that's exactly how it came across.

My favourite lines from the film -

Nick Cage: Blah blah something dead.
Teacher: We try not to use the word "dead" in front of the children
Nick Cage: I suppose you think that incredibly quixotic of me.
Teacher: Yes.

The Braveheart makeup was funny too, almost like the producers had been a room trying to think of all the Scottish/paegan things they could think of off the tops of their heads, and then just used that stuff.

Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Friday, 8 September 2006 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...
one of the funniest films i have ever seen--Nic Cage in a bear suit!

i think the first moment i just burst out laughing uncontrollably was when Cage threatens the chick in a bird mask with his gun--then takes her bicycle.

FOR JOHNNY RAMONE

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 6 January 2007 08:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=e6i2WRreARo

Go, GO, GO!!! (Go!), Sunday, 7 January 2007 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

omg

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 7 January 2007 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

MY EYES! AAARGH!!!

ledge (ledge), Sunday, 7 January 2007 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

NOT THE BEES!! NOT THE BEES!!

Funiest thing I've seen all year.

chap (chap), Sunday, 7 January 2007 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

And Ghost Rider is around the corner!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 7 January 2007 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

how can anyone think labute wasn't intending this to be funny?

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 7 January 2007 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

neil labute:

"How could I also make a movie that’s scary, you know, or at least creepy, during the daytime? How could I make that interesting? Those elements remained, but the way in which that character’s connected to the island - the patriarchy, which I have kind of turned into a matriarchy - all of those things are ways in which I saw to reimagine that material. To talk about something that was outside of the kind of really Christian versus Pagan-type deal of the first film and look at something that I had been working on a lot in my own writing: the idea of gender politics which are certainly, arguably, have been around as long if not longer than the concerns of the first movie.”

‘•’u (gear), Sunday, 7 January 2007 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

oh man, he was clueless wasn't he...

not the bees-- not the bees!

cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 7 January 2007 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

well, this is labute we're talking about...

zombierza (tehresa), Monday, 8 January 2007 00:01 (nineteen years ago)

i'm always wary of the "he meant for this to be some goofy-ass bullshit" argument, and I'm a big DePalma-Boorman fan.

Zwan (miccio), Monday, 8 January 2007 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

OK the punching in the bear suit is pretty great. Also: WHY IS IT BURNED? WHY IS IT BURNED? WHY? WHY?!

Allyzay Eisenschefter Pop You To The Extreme (allyzay), Monday, 8 January 2007 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

STEP AWAY FROM THE BIKE

I might have to rent this now.

Beth S. (Ex Leon), Monday, 8 January 2007 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

ottersome. and i dig the original.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 January 2007 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'm telling you, this and The Village, double-bill of suck.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 January 2007 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to ask Leelee about the karate kick to the face.

Zwan (miccio), Monday, 8 January 2007 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

Wicker Man's a lot more fun than the Village though

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 8 January 2007 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

Just from the youtube clip, I know it is. You have Nic Cage in a bear costume, Leelee getting karate kicked, and bees!

N.i.c.o.l.e (Ex Leon), Monday, 8 January 2007 04:04 (nineteen years ago)

This has totally made my evening.

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 8 January 2007 04:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm telling you, this and The Village, double-bill of suck.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), January 8th, 2007 3:16 AM. (Ned) (later)

top two of my bottom 5 of the year, if i recall correctly

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 8 January 2007 06:23 (nineteen years ago)

If this past year, surely Lady in the Water instead.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 January 2007 06:24 (nineteen years ago)

oh shit, that's what i meant! it all blends together into one wonderful dream.

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 8 January 2007 06:27 (nineteen years ago)

Hahah. You make it sound so good.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 January 2007 06:42 (nineteen years ago)

Filmmaker45 (2 hours ago)
This is a very laughable film. Looks like it will be good fun for some laughs.

kingfish prætor (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 8 January 2007 06:53 (nineteen years ago)

Cage hits a chick, take a drink.

Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Bees? That's how this one ends? With bees? BEES?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

MY EYES

The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

I saw this a few days ago on the airplane on the way home from the UK (visited Burrowhead and defiled Wicker Man feet from the original) and larfed out loud several times. Esp. after the hallucination sequence underwater where Cage yells "GodDAMMIT" on the dock. Howie would have NEVER done that. Oh, and the bear suit.


The Milkmaid (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

And the bees.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Bees? That's how this one ends? With bees? BEES?

DON'T SPOIL THE "SHOCKING" ENDING!!!!!!!!

Edward III (edward iii), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

"listen man, i'm havin a REALLY bad day, okay??"

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

HAHAHAHA my god! That "how'dit get burned!!!???" bit, wtf.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

I should mention that I DID NOT DEFILE/MAIM the Wicker Man feet -- I merely visited the feet that someone else maimed/defiled.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Does he die at the end of this version? (I can't imagine anyone on this thread will be too concerned about spoilers)

chap (chap), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Ethan's fat bees are having their revenge!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

I would love to think that Ethan has started a cult dedicated to killing people with belly button rings or lame music writers with bees.

N.i.c.o.l.e (Ex Leon), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

That "Murder! Murder! You'll all be guilty!!" bit is reminiscent of Mugatu's "I've been taking crazy pills!!" bit near the end of "Zoolander".

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://i14.tinypic.com/470do3t.gif

StanM (StanM), Monday, 15 January 2007 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

(amateur lipreader interpretation: "Not my ass, my ass, yeah!")

StanM (StanM), Monday, 15 January 2007 00:23 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, spoiler, I guess. Sorry.

StanM (StanM), Monday, 15 January 2007 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/gofugyourself/GFY112005/73140235.jpg

rrrobyn, breeze blown meadow of cheeriness (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

ROFLZ

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

haha when did he turn into Tom Hanks

Allyzay doesnt get into the monkeys or vindications (allyzay), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

It looks like Tony Clifton's head is trying to hide behind him.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

beeeeeeez

kingfish moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

Can we turn this thread into talking about Ghost Rider, then?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

yes

UART variations (ex machina), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.lasplash.com/artman/uploads/hundred_stars_06.jpg

roger goodell (gear), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

gah! wtf is that?!

kingfish moose tracks (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

ghost ride the whip!

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/gofugyourself/GFY112005/73140235.jpg
ihttp:/mishilo.image.pbase.comv3/65/76265/1/46315741.IMG_3669_1CCgenesimmons.jpg

darin (darin), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 00:32 (nineteen years ago)

kids these days...
img src is the way to roll

rrrobyn, breeze blown meadow of cheeriness (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 00:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yea, ihttp hasn't been reliable in like 3 years?

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 00:52 (nineteen years ago)

How do you use the img src method to post images?

darin (darin), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 01:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/f/f3/Shoter.jpg

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 01:05 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp has always worked fine for me, maybe it's a mac thing.

chap (chap), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

hahahahahah

UART variations (ex machina), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

http://mishilo.image.pbase.com/v3/65/76265/1/46315741.IMG_3669_1CCgenesimmons.jpg

darin (darin), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

No longer funny nor relevant, but at least I finally figured out this img src business.

darin (darin), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe the world would be a safer place if you hadn't.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Thursday, 1 February 2007 02:00 (nineteen years ago)

Why was Jon laughing at me? (not offended, just nonplussed)

chap (chap), Thursday, 1 February 2007 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://forums.reebosak.net/images/smilies/emot-iiam.gif

roger goodell (gear), Thursday, 1 February 2007 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

so is this thing out this week or next?

thing they're going to do any advance screenings for critics?

kingfishy (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 8 February 2007 00:52 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_mW8mBzmHo&mode=related&search=

Milton Parker, Thursday, 5 April 2007 01:04 (eighteen years ago)

nine months pass...

man i am so glad this movie exists, because a. it is hysterical and b. it just underscores how fucking awesome the original is

latebloomer, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:28 (eighteen years ago)

http://i14.tinypic.com/470do3t.gif

latebloomer, Tuesday, 22 January 2008 11:28 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

haha how shit is this film? seriously wtf omg etc.
how come it's not like FAMOUS bad like GIGLI, SWEPT AWAY, etc?
because it really IS that bad. and i HATE neil labute too.

pisces, Friday, 4 April 2008 18:46 (seventeen years ago)

how come it's not like FAMOUS bad like GIGLI, SWEPT AWAY, etc?

Who says it isn't?!?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 April 2008 18:50 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

How Nicolas Cage Spent His Way To The Poorhouse

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 20 November 2009 17:27 (sixteen years ago)

Daily Beast broke this a couple of weeks back:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-11-03/nicolas-cage-compulsive-spender/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 November 2009 17:30 (sixteen years ago)

Shadenfreude

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 20 November 2009 17:40 (sixteen years ago)

Oops, I can neither spell nor c.

l'homme moderne: il forniquait et lisait des journaux (Michael White), Friday, 20 November 2009 17:40 (sixteen years ago)

i liked the manohla dargis piece:

What makes Mr. Cage such an unusual screen presence and an even more atypical movie star is that he’s habitually very good and very bad from movie to movie, and sometimes scene to scene in a single film. Unlike most movie stars, whose stardom is partly predicated on a recognizable, coherent, stable persona and the ability to deliver a similarly coherent, stable performance — George Clooney almost always delivers a George Clooney-worthy turn, no matter how goofy the mustache — Mr. Cage is reliably unreliable.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Friday, 20 November 2009 17:55 (sixteen years ago)

which ILXor bought his $1.6 M comics collection?

Feingold/Kaptur 2012 (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 November 2009 18:27 (sixteen years ago)

you iirc

311 is a joek (s1ocki), Friday, 20 November 2009 18:31 (sixteen years ago)

On a sadder note, his dad died a few weeks back. He sounds like a pretty good character, actually -- a comp lit/cinema professor in the Cal State system for much of his career. But I admit to being amazed at his photo provided in the obit in terms of 'so that's how Nic will end up looking like':

http://mi-cache.legacy.com/legacy/images/Cobrands/OrangeCounty/Photos/0009166658-01-1_093152.jpg

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 November 2009 15:34 (sixteen years ago)

But that also meant that Nic's had to look into selling the house his dad lived in -- which isn't far from here, just over in Newport Beach -- and this OC Weekly post has this story along with talking about how he's having trouble unloading the property:

We'll end with a personal (OK, second-hand) Nic Cage anecdote: He made no secret of his residency down here, as someone very near and dear to me recalled when he spotted the actor sunning himself in front of the abode on the Pen. No friends, no handlers, no studio goons, just an Oscar winner catching rays all by himself. But when a third friend tried to make small talk out of this to Cage (on a red carpet or in a movie junket cattle-call interview line, can't recall which)--in the spirit of "Hey, Nic, I understand you were just sunning yourself outside your house in Newport Beach"--the actor turned stone-faced, essentially denied ever having been there and explained a lot of people look like him.

Really? Like that?

It's absolutely believable to me because a couple months ago, sitting in a hotel room in the Midwest, I saw a repeat of a late-night talk show where the host (Conan, if memory serves) mentioned something very normal the actor had just been observed doing in public. Cage flatly denied it, explaining a lot of people look like him.

Bet he wishes those other guys owned that cottage on the Pen right now.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 November 2009 15:36 (sixteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

We have Sorcerer's Apprentice trailer

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:37 (sixteen years ago)

...

so can I just....

"A Pain That I'm Used To"???????????

what happened, I am confused

wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:54 (sixteen years ago)

also does he just reflexively do every Jerry Bruckheimer movie regardless of what it is

wtf?!? just randomly started crying! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:56 (sixteen years ago)

I'm kinda wrestling with the fact that ten year old me would really want to see this, and is in fact still alive and kicking inside me someplace.

retrovaporized nebulizer (╓abies), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:59 (sixteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

wait one more

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0f7Muu8izqA/S0D17MRKn5I/AAAAAAAABI0/E2QNBWBpKKI/s400/DwightSchrute.jpg

Cunga, Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:38 (sixteen years ago)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0f7Muu8izqA/SzZOsRHlHhI/AAAAAAAABEE/fNDJjDYWQw4/s400/Alvin.jpg

girl moves (Abbott), Wednesday, 6 January 2010 19:57 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

Oh well:

The fate of the sprawling Tudor mansion owned by the actor, who won an Oscar for his role in "Leaving Las Vegas," was decided Wednesday far from the baronial estate.

It was up for auction Wednesday morning -- along with a handful of other foreclosed properties -- on the steps of the county courthouse in Pomona.

After a rapid-fire spiel by the auctioneer, the bidding was opened at $10.4 million, far less than the $35 million that Cage had tried unsuccessfully to sell the house for.

To put it mildly, the house, though impressive, was not to everyone's taste. Real estate agent Bret Parsons, who toured it most recently in October, described the interiors as "fascinating and bizarre."

"The design was 'frat house bordello,' " Parsons said. "There must have been 300 comic book covers elaborately framed and hanging on the walls."

Model train sets on raised tracks a couple feet below the ceiling circled the inside of the breakfast room and two bedrooms.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 April 2010 05:48 (fifteen years ago)

That sounds more like hiring me at age 10 to do interior design. If it truly is "frat house bordello", I want pictures.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 8 April 2010 17:04 (fifteen years ago)

Here you go.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 April 2010 17:49 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2010-04/53165264.jpg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 April 2010 17:50 (fifteen years ago)

coincidentally finally saw Leaving Las Vegas last night. really starting to feel like he's the same and every movie and it's just what's around him that decides whether its hailed/camp/crap.

da croupier, Thursday, 8 April 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

same in every movie

da croupier, Thursday, 8 April 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

love that the guy couldn't settle for just ONE graceland.

da croupier, Thursday, 8 April 2010 18:15 (fifteen years ago)

Did I miss an anouncement where Nic Cage announced he was legally blind or something? holy hell

Wood shavings! Laughing out loud! (HI DERE), Thursday, 8 April 2010 18:18 (fifteen years ago)

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2010-04/53165311.jpg

velko, Thursday, 8 April 2010 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

much obliged for the pix

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 8 April 2010 19:03 (fifteen years ago)

two months pass...

http://wonder-tonic.com/cageflix/

What is Cageflix?

Cageflix is the internet's leading Nicolas-Cage-centric, batch queue management tool for Netflix. It adds all availalable DVDs of Nicolas Cage movies to your Netflix queue.

a detective or a pervert (another al3x), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 20:09 (fifteen years ago)

two months pass...

Well then:

http://insanitypeninsula.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/world-you-just-got-caged/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 August 2010 20:58 (fifteen years ago)

His personal motto is "maximum violence immediately."

I wish Nic Cage was on Twitter.

litel, Friday, 20 August 2010 06:35 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2-hiHUh4UQ

i mean... just... what?

Kerm, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 03:42 (fifteen years ago)

explosion explosion explosion explosion magic car explosion satan

my sex drew back into itself tight and dry (abanana), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 14:51 (fifteen years ago)

"what the hell kind of gun is that?!?" = my thoughts at about nine different points in this trailer

Our society and culture has put rock music on the backburner (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 14:57 (fifteen years ago)

that chipmunks one has me crying.

thebingo2010 (chrisv2010), Tuesday, 19 October 2010 15:02 (fifteen years ago)

What makes Mr. Cage such an unusual screen presence and an even more atypical movie star is that he’s habitually very good and very bad from movie to movie, and sometimes scene to scene in a single film. Unlike most movie stars, whose stardom is partly predicated on a recognizable, coherent, stable persona and the ability to deliver a similarly coherent, stable performance — George Clooney almost always delivers a George Clooney-worthy turn, no matter how goofy the mustache — Mr. Cage is reliably unreliable.

I'm actually starting to believe Cage is basically the same in every movie, and it's just up to the director to shape the work around this freak

da croupier, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 15:42 (fifteen years ago)

it's not like he's brando trying on eight different accents because he has total contempt for the director. His sadface characters are of a piece, his coked-up loons are of a piece, etc. Whether one "manic cage" movie is better than the other really has little to do with him.

da croupier, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 15:47 (fifteen years ago)

d'oh, I apparently wrote all this 6 months ago.

da croupier, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 15:51 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otyP039Kbis

da croupier, Tuesday, 19 October 2010 15:54 (fifteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

RIP or something:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/money_co/2010/11/bel-air-estate-nicolas-cage-lost-to-foreclosure-sells-for-105-million-.html

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 November 2010 16:15 (fifteen years ago)

"No! Not the witches!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR53RvUXhPg

In the Deadline Hollywood story on this they go:

In the Dominic Sena-directed film, Cage plays a 14th Century knight charged with transporting a suspected witch whose powers are suspected to have caused the Black Plague. Nice visuals, but is it a good Cage film or one of those he does for the payday?

Uh...

Ned Raggett, Monday, 15 November 2010 15:28 (fifteen years ago)

nic cage is nic cage

glengarry glenn danzig (latebloomer), Monday, 15 November 2010 15:30 (fifteen years ago)

http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/nic-cage-birdhair.jpg

well this made my day.

Str8 Drapin It (chrisv2010), Monday, 15 November 2010 15:33 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 18:55 (fifteen years ago)

movie theater near work has posters for Drive Angry and Season Of the Witch right across from each other, both with the word "hell" in the tagline ("All Hell Breaks Loose" and "This January Raise Some Hell" respectively).

da croupier, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:24 (fifteen years ago)

"we're gonna need more holy water" in the Witch trailer is shameless

da croupier, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 19:27 (fifteen years ago)

Hah, you could tell it was a paycheck film as soon as you saw the PG-13 rating in the trailer. That trailer doesn't hold a candle to "Your Highness."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 20:02 (fifteen years ago)

about 40% of that clip is either Vampire's Kiss or Deadfall. Vampire's Kiss is kind of a masterpiece and Deadfall, I'd spared myself the memories -- until I saw these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZhciDUvnlY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1fEnhawu_k

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 20:13 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah that video made me wonder about Deadfall. Looks, uhhhh, "awesome". is it?

when I first heard 3 Feet High And Rising I was (admrl), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 20:16 (fifteen years ago)

I have to watch that movie.

macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 23 November 2010 20:22 (fifteen years ago)

It's nearly unwatchable, except for every scene with cage.

The punchline to the director's bio = the author of the bio: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0178876/bio

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 23 November 2010 20:33 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP1-oquwoL8

you're welcome

Now, Friday, 26 November 2010 09:19 (fifteen years ago)

i haven't watched vampire's kiss yet, but i am going to have a "private screening" of deadfall within the next couple of days. i expect it will be life-changing on the scale of say, my first communion

posting on ILX for the benefit of humankind (del), Friday, 26 November 2010 15:41 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

so i just saw Season of the Witch and

1) Cage does not disappoint
2) teal&orange.xls
3) I wish somebody would make a movie of the TV series Gargoyles
4) Cage would've been a better Gargamel in the Smurfs movie than Hank Azaria.

they call him (remy bean), Sunday, 16 January 2011 19:21 (fifteen years ago)

Took me a second to recall whether the Smurfs movie had been released yet or not!

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 January 2011 20:07 (fifteen years ago)

pretty sure the universe would explode if Nic Cage was in the Smurfs movie

Young Guns aside, the western is not my favorite genre. (latebloomer), Sunday, 16 January 2011 20:28 (fifteen years ago)

i saw Season of the Witch, enjoyed how half the time Cage and Perlman basically played it like they were in a buddy cop movie

Alex Da Dad (some dude), Sunday, 16 January 2011 20:34 (fifteen years ago)

heh. I loved Gargoyles.

Nhex, Sunday, 16 January 2011 20:38 (fifteen years ago)

saw this with my sister hoping it would be lolworthy. when nic cage started skewering wolves in mid-air with his sword, my sister turned to me and said "this is exactly what i paid for!"

there is no turning back in an art game? (reddening), Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:31 (fifteen years ago)

exactly the opposite to how i felt about peter jackson's the two towers but i will catch these i think

all i gotta do is akh nachivly (darraghmac), Sunday, 16 January 2011 22:38 (fifteen years ago)

love that your vendetta against Jackson's LOTR is so psycho that you're like arghhh those fucking movies i better check out Season Of The Witch though i'm sure it's way better

Alex Da Dad (some dude), Sunday, 16 January 2011 23:38 (fifteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://i54.tinypic.com/34hj5ep.jpg

ENBB, Saturday, 26 February 2011 22:53 (fourteen years ago)

no!

not_goodwin, Saturday, 26 February 2011 22:57 (fourteen years ago)

i can't believe you guys repped for season of the witch. "Cage does not disappoint"??? he sleepwalked through it!!! those were some of the most lifeless line readings of anyone's career, let alone Cage's. perlman was the only source of entertainment in that movie.

drive angry 3D is p good though

ℳℴℯ ❤\(◕‿◕✿ (Princess TamTam), Saturday, 26 February 2011 22:58 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

What the

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 April 2011 04:42 (fourteen years ago)

'It's like this, Dad.'

http://www.decibelmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/pic-1-572x429.jpg

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 April 2011 21:04 (fourteen years ago)

four months pass...

he's a vampire

I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

http://chzdailywhat.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/68a89945-5688-48e0-8529-a022ab3155dc.jpg

I saw Mike Love walk by a computer once (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 16 September 2011 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

two months pass...
two months pass...

http://pics.livejournal.com/comalies13/pic/000s4ket/s640x480

Nicole, Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:33 (fourteen years ago)

v twin peaks

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Thursday, 2 February 2012 00:42 (fourteen years ago)

needs more hair/bird

the acquisition and practice of music is unfavourable to the health of (abanana), Thursday, 2 February 2012 02:30 (fourteen years ago)

both cages looking v. shatner-esque

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 2 February 2012 02:50 (fourteen years ago)

<iframe frameborder="no" width="480" height="270" scrolling="no" src="http://www.theonion.com/video_embed/?id=27318";></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.theonion.com/video/meet-the-man-inside-the-nicolas-cage-costume,27318/"; target="_blank" title="Meet The Man Inside The Nicolas Cage Costume">Meet The Man Inside The Nicolas Cage Costume</a>

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 February 2012 02:39 (fourteen years ago)

Aw, nuts.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 February 2012 02:39 (fourteen years ago)

eight months pass...

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbov8rzwaD1qa9bmvo1_1280.jpg

Time for dude to live the dream and get a Beach Boys biopic going. Set in 1975.

http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/3655/1975qh9.jpg

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 18:05 (thirteen years ago)

Cage looks waaay more zonked out than BW

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

This is true.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:13 (thirteen years ago)

Did an actor ever prematurely age as overnight as NC? Looks his age in Rumblefish, Peggy Sue etc etc...suddenly we're up to Face/Off and he looks 10 years older than he is.

Younger than Depp, Pitt, Cruise lest we forget

Master of Treacle, Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:26 (thirteen years ago)

funny he was already playing a dad (of sorts) in 1987

da croupier, Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:34 (thirteen years ago)

also pairing up with kathleen turner and cher

da croupier, Thursday, 11 October 2012 00:35 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118061012

Nicolas Cage in talks to star in 'Left Behind' reboot

let's keep this board about feet, please. (latebloomer), Saturday, 20 October 2012 05:10 (thirteen years ago)

I'm all for a reboot as long as it means better CGI.

pplains, Saturday, 20 October 2012 05:14 (thirteen years ago)

that's perfect for him. he really always picks the most Nic Cageian roles. which the world is better for imo

Chris S, Saturday, 20 October 2012 05:24 (thirteen years ago)

Did an actor ever prematurely age as overnight as NC? Looks his age in Rumblefish, Peggy Sue etc etc...suddenly we're up to Face/Off and he looks 10 years older than he is.

― Master of Treacle, Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:26 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

roids

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 20 October 2012 07:09 (thirteen years ago)

Nic Cage has already made a movie about the rapture, wtf

da croupier, Saturday, 20 October 2012 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

How soon we forget the suited alien angels of Know1ng!!!

da croupier, Saturday, 20 October 2012 11:34 (thirteen years ago)

three months pass...

"Stolen" made $300,000 in the US box office and was pulled after two weeks. Budget: $35 million

abanana, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 01:44 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

Another day, another story. Via Idris Elba:

Yeah - Nic Cage came back one day on set, and he came down to set and he looked a little bit tired, a little bit - kind of like he'd ben up all night. So I was like "hey Nic man, how you doing man" and he said "i'm alright' and I said "You seem a little spoked out" and he said "Yeah man, I went up to Dracula's castle...the ruins up in the mountains, and I stayed the night" and i said "What?! Why|?" and he said "I just had to channel the energy, and it was pretty spooky up there." We were shooting in Romania, Transylvania, and he just went up there to spend the night, as you do.

And then he walked away.

True story.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 September 2014 19:12 (eleven years ago)

<3

Quinoa Phoenix (latebloomer), Saturday, 20 September 2014 19:40 (eleven years ago)

Bran Castle is a massive tourist attraction, tbf.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Saturday, 20 September 2014 20:01 (eleven years ago)

three months pass...

Saw "Vampire's Kiss" last night for the first time.

I'M A VAMPIRE! I'M A VAMPIRE! I'M A VAMPIRE! I'M A VAMPIRE! I'M A VAMPIRE! I'M A VAMPIRE! I'M A VAMPIRE! I'M A VAMPIRE!

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 17 January 2015 20:04 (eleven years ago)

I think it's seriously underrated.

There's a lot of people who think the humour undermines the seriousness of his major crime but I think it was all done very well. I didn't find that aspect too jarring but it does come as a shock.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 17 January 2015 20:08 (eleven years ago)

Post-film discussions were mostly on whether or not any of the film was real, and if some parts were real and others weren't, where the cutoff was. He seemed to think the bat was the catalyst, I think he was just slipping into insanity over the course of the whole movie.

Him reciting the ABC's like a lunatic was awesome. Also the scene where he first has the fake teeth and is prowling around that club. Ghost Rider comes close to this level of insanity, but this is easily the most OTT performance I have seen of his.

©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 17 January 2015 20:15 (eleven years ago)

did anyone see that nic cage/paul schrader film that was in theaters for about two days?

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 18 January 2015 01:04 (eleven years ago)

Light Sleeper II: Port of Call?

Zings of Oblivion (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 18 January 2015 01:22 (eleven years ago)

Ghost Rider comes close to this level of insanity, but this is easily the most OTT performance I have seen of his.

check out Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call, it's a crazy movie as a whole but there are some real "holy shit" scenes in there. like, way past the usual self-parody thing that Cage does.

Vampire's Kiss indeed is underrated - though I kinda understand since it's a tough one to describe. it's not exactly a comedy, is it?

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Sunday, 18 January 2015 02:30 (eleven years ago)

I always think of it as a good companion piece to American Psycho. I'm sure the comparison has been made a million times.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 18 January 2015 02:37 (eleven years ago)

Vampire's Kiss was the first movie I ever saw Cage in. I don't think he's ever equaled his performance in it.

Dokken played here for a Ribfest and people were total assholes (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 17:21 (eleven years ago)

nic cage is an essential movie star, love him. i will never complain abt his presence in a movie though i may lol at it.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 17:57 (eleven years ago)

I just wanna give a shout out to this scene from Bad Lieutenant, every time I see it it's even crazier than I remembered. And to think it takes place before his character goes really nuts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8otgTeqyjMI

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 18:59 (eleven years ago)

did anyone see his David Gordon Green noncamp movie?

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:04 (eleven years ago)

Love that little speech he rehearses when he's waiting in a line in Leaving Las Vegas. I kept expecting him to get nuttier later on but it just becomes quieter and it's quite sad.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 20 January 2015 19:10 (eleven years ago)

two years pass...

A report from the field

Just received the best press release of 2017:

"NICOLAS CAGE IS IN NO WAY ENGAGED WITH AN ENDORSEMENT FOR JAPANESE SNACK FOOD BRAND RISKA" pic.twitter.com/XmOGM0Qq66

— Zach Schonfeld (@zzzzaaaacccchhh) October 11, 2017

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 October 2017 20:23 (eight years ago)

easily the worst news of the day

cosmic brain dildo (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 12 October 2017 16:10 (eight years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/GMgXMHz.jpg

pplains, Thursday, 12 October 2017 16:17 (eight years ago)

three months pass...

https://theoutline.com/post/3121/you-can-now-watch-nicolas-cage-play-james-bond
https://gfycat.com/FlawlessForthrightAmericanshorthair

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 23:06 (eight years ago)

one year passes...

A vision.

there is a direct to video movie from the late '80s that Nicolas Cage randomly appears in. this is the entirety of his performance. pic.twitter.com/j0YcJSJ8Oy

— A Cruel Angel's Beavis (@alex_navarro) July 24, 2019

the movie is called Never on Tuesday and it's never been released outside of VHS. which is how it should stay.

— A Cruel Angel's Beavis (@alex_navarro) July 24, 2019

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:06 (six years ago)

interesting encapsulation of his career there

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 24 July 2019 19:10 (six years ago)

two years pass...

The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent is a damn treat, it turns out.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 April 2022 22:54 (three years ago)

eight months pass...

The apotheosis is here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LmO6rmDW08

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 January 2023 18:18 (three years ago)

this is a sequel to Vampires Kiss right

frogbs, Thursday, 5 January 2023 18:36 (three years ago)

one year passes...

Posted this on the San Francisco thread since that's where it's going to be at but a week from tonight Zach Schonfeld and I will be talking about his great book How Coppola Became Cage:

https://www.booksmith.com/cage-book

And if possible we'll see about recording it!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 July 2024 17:45 (one year ago)

Longlegs is the first Nicholas Cage film I've seen since, I don't know, maybe Adaptation or Snake Eyes, whichever one came later. I've had no interest in whatever he's been doing since his elevation to cult-figure status.

But I like a good serial-killer film, so I thought it was worth a chance. In some prior universe, Cage would have played the detective...Went off the rails in the last 20 minutes, when it starts explainin' stuff, but before that, grim and reasonably effective. The point of it all, I don't know. It's got something to do with Bill Clinton, and a lot of something to do with T. Rex.

clemenza, Sunday, 28 July 2024 01:22 (one year ago)

Looked at his filmography. I think I saw The Weather Man--that'd be the last one.

clemenza, Sunday, 28 July 2024 01:26 (one year ago)

Hated nearly every single thing about Longlegs. Alicia Witt is fine until her character becomes too ridiculous.

Chris L, Sunday, 28 July 2024 01:27 (one year ago)

I thought there was directorial skill in the first two parts, a few nice compositions, a decent build-up. Part three was preposterous.

clemenza, Sunday, 28 July 2024 01:30 (one year ago)

Fascinating stuff I didn't know about the director, Osgood Perkins (from the Vulture review):

Perkins, for his part, is creating a Freudian cocktail from autobiographical elements. His father was Anthony Perkins, a closeted actor who died of complications from AIDS in 1992 and was best known for playing the title character in Psycho, a motel manager who takes orders from a psychological construct of the mother he murdered for her sexual appetites, and who still haunts him. Perkins’s mother was model, actress, and photographer Berry Berenson, who died on 9/11 while traveling in one of the hijacked planes that crashed into the World Trade Center a day before what would have been the anniversary of her husband’s death.

clemenza, Sunday, 28 July 2024 03:33 (one year ago)

"Looked at his filmography. I think I saw The Weather Man--that'd be the last one."

Every fibre of my being wanted to reply with "actually it was The Wicker Man". With the word "wicker" in double italics.

But he was in a film called The Weather Man. It came out in 2005. He was a weatherman, although nowadays you have to call them weatherpeople or weatherpersons. They get offended if you call them weathermen.

I hope he completes the trilogy by appearing in a film called The Wither Man. Except that it would be The Wither Person get out of my head.

Ashley Pomeroy, Sunday, 28 July 2024 22:14 (one year ago)

And here's the recording! Turn up the volume, the recording level was low.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZRFiu_G9dU

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 August 2024 17:13 (one year ago)

one month passes...

heard a description of Leaving Las Vegas, which I haven't seen since the 90s, and realized that both of Cage's Oscar nominations have been for roles in which he played a screenwriter (Adaptation being the other)

jaymc, Monday, 30 September 2024 01:13 (one year ago)


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