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like americans need a fucking fourth meal!

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

it has an irresistible homer simpson logic to it.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 00:58 (nineteen years ago)

Hasn't the whole notion of "three square meals" been superceded by frequent smaller submeals througout the day?

Even still, Taco Bell wouldn't be the right way to do that, either. Not to mention the fact that eating late at night isn't so great either.

naus (Robert T), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

FUCK IT WE'RE GOING TO FIVE BLADES!

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 01:00 (nineteen years ago)

so what do they call this meal? "fourth meal" or something else? it should be called tacotime, but that's already been done. it's too bad taco time didn't come up with this advertising campaign first, really.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

It's rather shocking spending a lot of time in other countries and then coming back here and noticing FATTIES EVERYWHERE, Amateurist.

ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

is it called blecch-fast?

The Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

ELEVENSES

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 01:23 (nineteen years ago)

PO-TAY-TOES

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

07:00 - Coffee
09:00 - Breakfast
10:30 - Offisnack
12:30 - Lunch
02:30 - Tea
04:30 - Venmachine
07:00 - Dinner
09:00 - Diserter
10:30 - Lefftova
12:30 - Dessert Storm II
02:45 - Stonerupper
05:15 - Amnesiatea

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

i'm all in favour of a fourth meal!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

I Poopered

100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

i usually forget to eat breakfast and then have a meal after dinner, but i don't think that's technically a fourth meal

also, i wouldn't eat at taco bell for anything

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 03:53 (nineteen years ago)

quebec doesn't have taco bell... which must be why i find it fascinating.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 03:55 (nineteen years ago)

ELEVENSES

-- Laurel (sininspac...), June 13th, 2006. (later)

PO-TAY-TOES

-- rrrobyn (apoemabouteverythin...), June 13th, 2006. (later)

You too. Anyway, time for second breakfast.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

Well, 'you two,' more accurately. Anyway.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 04:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://foetusized.org/cdimages/u2-fr4.jpg

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 04:03 (nineteen years ago)

made me think of a campaign round here, for milk.: my translation: a glass of milk is nice, 2 is better

not!
2 is 2 much, 2 fat and a half and other problems.&%$# *#$%?

S. (Sébastien Chikara), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)

la cloche de taco!!

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

st michael's meal

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 10:55 (nineteen years ago)

Hasn't the whole notion of "three square meals" been superceded by frequent smaller submeals througout the day?

A tip learned from supermodels and other skinny people.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

i thought the way to be skinny is to pig out on one meal and then not eat the rest of the day

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

..and the vomiting.

DAVE, for #1 Hits of yesterday and today! (dave225.3), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

the minimeals thing is lame.

Seriously, Try Punching This Guy in the Face and See What Happens (Enrique), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

I am stunned every time I see these Taco Bell commercials. I know Taco Bell isn't health food, but straight up encouraging a nation of soft, doughy people to eat a fourth mean late at night is just so blatantly nefarious.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's much easier to have four very small meals, apparently. Of course those very small meals are in fact some water and a huge line of speed or coke.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

The first time I saw this slogan (AT a taco bell drive-through) I said "oh god" out loud and felt chillbumps raising all over my body.

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

I think the many-small-meals thing is supposed to more closely match the way we're "supposed" to eat ("in the wild") -- kind of hunter-gatherery -- plus keep your metabolic action and blood-sugar levels and so on constant and stable and all. I definitely feel better when eating that way, but the issue is whether you actually have the wherewithal to prepare five entire different decent meals for yourself per day, plus balance them out nutritiously. I have nothing even close to that, so I tend to just eat twice a day, sometimes once.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

we actually had an official "fourth meal" as part of our college meal plan. it was from 10-midnight, i think, and iirc was based on complaints that students were paying through the nose for on-campus dining (full board was mandatory) yet couldn't get anyting to eat after 7:30-8pm.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

http://content.collegehumor.com/items/2003/08/collegehumor.12570.451xAUTO.jpg

The Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

made me think of a campaign round here, for milk.: my translation: a glass of milk is nice, 2 is better

god i hate that "2 is better" ad campaign!!! it's like you haven't even sold me on one, you presumptuous... milk farmer association!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/bong-35625.jpg

I think these are the only reason Taco Bell is still in business, employees and customers alike.

Abbott (Abbott), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Are milk farmers anything like melon farmers?

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Abbot OTM. That was pretty much the only reason I ever went there.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

i meant dairy farmer!!!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

It's the folks over 40 who need to be encouraged to pig out, so you kidz don't have to make up our Soc Sec shortfall as we all live to 90.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

Nabisco, did you coin that whole list yourself??

the pinefox (the pinefox), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

there's this one segment in the "2 is better" milk farmer campaign (which, for those who've never seen it is all "artsy" and entirely because it's for MILK it comes off as a bit surreal) that is: a little boy next to a pregnant belly (you can't see the person above the belly). and for the first few times i saw it, i was like WHAT?? HALF A PREGNANT BODY?! WELL YES TWO PARTS ARE DEFINITELY BETTER THAN ONE HOLY CRAP. and then i realized they meant two kids are better than one kid.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

the only time i ever make a run for the border is when i'm half in the wrapper on my way home from the beat kitchen. that goddamn taco bell on damen gets me everytime.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

apropos nothing really, i just wanted to post this fat kitty. the new mascot, maybe?

http://pic13.picturetrail.com/VOL471/2199644/4292336/55261549.jpg

The Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, they are just trying to court more drunk people. nothing wrong with that.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

In college I worked with a guy who ate every meal at Taco Bell -- he didn't even need to order at the drive through, because all of the workers at his local would recognize him the moment he pulled up and knew that he ordered the same thing every time. He happened to be super-skinny, but I wonder if he still eats like that and if so if it caused him to pork up or have health problems.

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

not at all how I imagine "phenomenal cat" but perhaps such things are not meant to be realized..

youn (youn), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

I hate America.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

http://danwho.net/mp/index.php?id=snl_tacotown

The Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

we don't like you either domino.

the united states of america (otto midnight), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

oooh you are freaking me out

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

you freedom haters will eat that fourth meal and you'll like it!

It's rather shocking spending a lot of time in other countries and then coming back here and noticing FATTIES EVERYWHERE, Amateurist.
-- ALLAH FROG (knightofmar...) (webmail), Yesterday 9:08 PM. (Mingus Dew) (later)

RATHER. Actually, this is one of the most appealing things about america to me. Its hard to feel too bad about yourself on a day-to-day basis. Also, unlike Australia; weight, food, eating, dieting arent the only topics that are ever discussed. If I had to hear one more girl say 'ooh! i was so bad last night! i ate 6 doritos! ill be paying for that at the gym tonight!' Kill me.

My take on the whole fourth meal thing is Taco Bell securing its 1am post-party/bar customer base. Say you eat dinner at 6 or 7pm then you go out, to a bar or band or whatever. You head home at midnight-ish so you havent eaten for 5 or 6 hours and you're probably drunk or high. It makes perfect sense.


sunny successor (katharine), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

actually, of all the choices of what to eat out at 2am, taco bell is probably the best option, health wise. greasy diner food is probably worse for you.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

I am roffling hardcore at all of the Bellphobes.

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

it's true! i've had taco bell and it was surprisingly non-greasy and good. (this was in western canada though, but i assume they're all made of the same stuff. oh, it was vegetarian soft tacos or something.) and, yes! all that late night going-out activity requires fuel. taco fuel.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

that was an xpost to mandee

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

BURRITOS ARE HUMAN BATTERIES

electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

i think taco bell is not so bad. yeah, its rehydrated beans and kinda crap weird ground beef, but it'll do in a pinch if i only have $2 and dont feel like eating ramen noodles.

also i severely distrust the eat several small meals throughout the day theory. a lot of people don't realize 'meals' in this context = snacks. NOT ACTUAL MEALS.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

dude! last time i went there i ordered a taco and they put some velveeta-like substance on it. inedible.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

SOFT TACOS ARE AAAs
xpost

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

THATS IT I'M GOING TO TACO BELL

The Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

velveeta like substances are sometimes amazing.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

If I had to hear one more girl say 'ooh! i was so bad last night! i ate 6 doritos! ill be paying for that at the gym tonight!' Kill me.

australia sounds a lot like nyc.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

every woman at my work does that. but yet they all seem to pig out quite a bit. and then they go "OMG I am being soooo bad!" outside of work, though, i dont know ANYONE who does it.
thank god.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

to me the weirdest thing is to see film footage of yr average American from say, 30-40 years ago and notice how skinny all the men are. By comparison today's average American male is a bloated porker.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Totally!
http://www.icicom.up.pt/blog/jpr/arquivos/ReadingAtMich%5B1%5D.jpg

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

haha!

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

"average American" Orson Welles

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Haha only the truly exceptional back in the day were allowed to be tremendous fattaeys. :D

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

I like Taco Bell food (although it doesn't like me HAR DE FUCKING HAR). I just don't like this "fourth meal" ad campaign. Calorie-wise, one item off Taco Bell's value meal is sufficient to cover two (or more!) of one's "five small meals per day" allotment. And Taco Bell isn't saying, "Eat five small meals a day, one of which you might consider making an order of pintos and cheese from our value menu!" No! They are saying, "Hey fatties! When you've consumed enough beer to bloat an entire PKA chapter, stop by and get a deep fried taco wrapped in a burrito and grilled and covered with cheesy bacon ranch sauce in addition to the three giant American meals plus snacks you've already eaten today! YEAH!"

None of this stops me from wanting a seven-layer burrito right about now, mind you. But I've only had two meals today so I have to wait until later to comply with the "fourth meal" doctrine. Because I'm fat, but I'm not fat enough.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

my parents always talk about what fatties they were in highschool. for my dad, that meant weighing 170 pounds. for my mom, 140 pounds. they were like, barely overweight and apparently teased constantly.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

I went on Weight Watchers a couple years ago and, at 5'6" got down to about 150 and people expressed concern that I had lost too much weight. Which should tell you something about how American's perceive fatness in others. Now I'm almost as fat as your dad was!

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

yeah when I was those measurements, I got 'oh you're getting too skinny"

(but when I was 5-10 lbs more I got told by some of the same people to lose weight, huh??)

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

im storing reserves of flab for when our civilization collapses and i cant enjoy funyun sundaes.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

is that like an onion sundae or something?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

i severely distrust the eat several small meals throughout the day theory. a lot of people don't realize 'meals' in this context = snacks

Aha, but this is the trick that makes it all so difficult: you can't eat snacky things! I mean, okay, vegetables to nibble and whatever, sure. But for some of those "several small meals" you're probably going to need/want to prepare some sort of miniature hot dish, you know, like some meat or something -- it's a big switch to actually eat only cold foragey foods all the time. But then who really has the time or energy to go around preparing half-servings of hot food a few times a day? That's the issue. I would totally eat like this if I owned a Star Trek replicator and could just conjure up, throughout the day, little appropriately sized servings of fish and greens and such. But as it is I can barely get two regular meals together without having to replace one of them with some kind of easy-to-locate pastry product, so five/six seems way too ambitious.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

YES :) yummers!
im kidding, though. ive never had a funyun sundae.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

xpost, to slocki.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

I actually tried it for a while, you know, but all I wound up eating were small portable snacky things -- carrots, celery, yougurt, cheese, peppers, cold cuts, etc., all of which was fine and healthy-feeling but then damn, you start to realize why people must have been totally psyched when they invented fire. Just a little something hot and prepared makes a world of difference.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

No Funyuns in Canada?

http://flakmag.com/misc/images/funyuns180.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

i've tried to do it before, too. it was just too much effort, especially getting all that food prepared before work (too many goddamned plastic food containers, too). if i worked closer to home and/or worked from home, maybe!

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

I often snack on baby carrots in the mid-afternoon and then an apple right when I'm leaving work, which means that my dinner an hour or so later doesn't have to be a huge production.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Staying at home is just as much of a problem, actually! The first time I had a day off while eating that way, I sat around working until around 6 and then started wondering why I hadn't gotten hungry yet -- then I realized I'd eaten like three bags of baby carrots and half a jar of peanuts without even realizing it.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

"Aha, but this is the trick that makes it all so difficult: you can't eat snacky things!"

i am aware that you always seem to know everything but this time you are off the frigging rocker or money or whatever. you dont need to prepare hot dishes. most dieticians will actually recommend a SNACK in the form of an apple or yoghurt or something simple.

also nabisco i once ate a meal a day but i still knew it was unhealthy. your body is probably conditioned to that one meal but it is not really healthý.

(urgh i hate windows xp and qwerty so sorry if this reply is effed up)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Nath, I'm fully aware one meal isn't healthy -- I'm not advocating it!

Also the "need" for hot dishes I'm talking about is not biological or health-related -- I'm just saying that switching to a totally cold-and-raw diet was ... umm, unpleasant. Maybe I'd have gotten used to it after enough time, but I found myself craving some shepherd's pie something fierce.

(Also for protein reasons it kind of is good to get some small pieces of meat in there, and it really is kinda inconvenient to keep half-servings of prepared tasty meat in your life.)

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

"many small meals" fucks with my blood sugar more than anything. "snacking consciously" or whatever just does not work. 3 meals a day (+ snack if super active), and i'm fine. but dinner is really the only proper meal, i'd say. i want to lose a few pounds right now so no chocolate/chips/sugar with dinner. it seems to be working! (plus, the jogging, i think.)

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

i wish i could be one of those people who just cuts out lattés or something and loses 10 pounds.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

If I stopped drinking beer, I bet I'd drop at least 5.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

haha, i'm not one of those people - i need to exercise every day and cut out all kinds of things. like beer. and fourth meals.
xpost!

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

i just realized my post seemed a little bitchy - sorry robyn, wasnt specifically referencing you.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

oh, i know!

i think i'm a serious exercise-to-maintain-gluttony-levels person. yet actual weight-loss requires sacrifices food/beer-wise. ah, well.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

sorry nabisco i realized afterwards that you werent advocating 1 meals per day nor the hot meals. that said i found 1 meal per day great as i had so much time extra. heh

excercise doesnt make you lose that much weight. unless you go biking or sth. running and swimming is not so great for losing weight...

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

Biking is good for losing weight but running isn't?!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

omg, i just saw the fourth meal ad! "i'm a fourth mealer"?? yeah, it's totally aimed at "youth", stoners, "club kids." (though in truth, real hopped-up club kids, if they want anything at 5am, would probably just want a small milkshake that they'd drink half of and be really happy existed.) conclusion: tell us something we don't already know, taco bell.
xpost

i see what you mean, nat, esp if when people start exercising they start eating more (which is often the case), so one has to watch that. but exercise definitely allows me to maintain proper weight while eating healthily most of the time but not being militant about it.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I only lose weight when I'm exercising (partly, uh, because I'm only able to make myself eat less when I already feel fit and healthy).

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

But I don't believe that one kind of aerobic exercise is really that different from another.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

I have a hard time believing anything tha Bell sells is worse for you than your standard Chicago taqueria burrito. Just sayin'.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

I've said before and I'm happy to repeat: I work out so that I can keep eating mint chip ice cream and cheese on everything. And smoking. If I ever actually need to lose weight I'm going to be SCREWED.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

c/d: not eating "fast food" while eating at local quick crap joints
-- fiddo centington (dubplatestyl...), November 18th, 2003 11:46 AM. (dubplatestyle) (link)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

But local crap usually tastes better!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

I agree.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah I'll take a nice fat carne asada burrito over any mass-produced crap any day.

GOD DAMN IT NOW I WANT TAQUERIA MORAN

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

the mexican tacos they sell in LA/the southwest are typically much healthier for you than taco bell tacos. grilled tortilla + meat + vegetables + salsa + no cheese = they only start to get bad for you if you eat a lot of them.

intensity in tent cities (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

You left out the sour cream, Jody.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

Um, mandee, how tall is your Dad? I'm about 5'9" and 168 lbs (after putting on over 45 lbs in 2 yrs) and I've never met someone who considers me anything other than thin.

I don't really know how people can live on just three meals a day.

Taco Bell is gross. I can't imagine how diner food could be worse for you, despite some extra grease.

Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'm hitting up La Cocina for a vegetarian burrito before the week is out, I just know it.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

(nabisco: Try making larger portions of hot meals so you can reheat and eat 3 or 4 times. Eating just cold raw stuff all the time is craziness. Cavemen discovered how to make fire for a reason.)

Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Well Sundar I gave up on that whole many-meals kick ages ago, but yeah, that's the preferred solution. Although I submit that's it's very difficult to reheat meals on the sidewalk, on the subway, or at a bar!

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

You left out the sour cream, Jody.

i've never seen sour cream on a taco, but maybe i haven't been looking hard enough.

intensity in tent cities (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe you've never had a TACO SUPREME?

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

i try not to eat anything with the word "supreme" attached to it!

intensity in tent cities (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha - i don't think i've ever ordered anything "supreme"! i have said "with bacon" though.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Jody was just talking about tacos in the Southwest. My Chicago tacos always come with sour cream.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

i have said "with bacon" though.

guilty as charged. *hangs head in shame*

intensity in tent cities (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Back in my day we called this "the munchies".

mummy wrapped in bacon (nickalicious), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

ah but bacon has no carbohydrates so its good for your weight! it is this week, anyway.

sunny successor (katharine), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

Sundar - he's 5'8" or so. Maybe I am underestimating his former weight. I will have to consult him on his weight in 1964 and get back to you!

I think a lot of people I know work out solely so they can pig out, but nothing I've ever done manages to burn THAT many calories. Maybe take up gymnastics?

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

swimming is supposed to be good. you get man shoulders though.

sunny successor (katharine), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

i can attest to that. i already kinda have "broad shoulders", so i gotta watch it. but swimming IS so great! i tried to go today but the pool wasn't open until 2:45 and i had soccer to watch. so i biked around and then watched soccer and went for a run after that. it cheered me up a bit re: poland's last-minute loss. i am not going to eat ice cream though, now. or tacos.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think ILX knows about second breakfast, Ned.

J (Jay), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

today's fourth-meal prediction: BEER

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

rrrobyn OTM.

also: http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/www/hackdiet.html

also: fourth meal is officially called "pizza." ref. Amanda.

also: cooking at home doesn't take any more time than going out to eat, dudes. the amount of time that you spend leaving your apartment, going to the Bell or wherever, eating, and returning to your regularly scheduled whatever isn't that much longer than just cooking for yourself. like, REAL cooking, with vegetables and shit. and, the truth is, cutting out lattes and beer probably would drop everyone's weight by a pretty significant amount, guaranteed (1 beer = 100 - 175 cal. multiply by whatever). while some people are genetically predisposed to be larger than others, NO ONE is genetically predisposed to be morbidly obese. think of it this way: 30 years ago there just weren't as many obese people (we're not talking overweight, btw, we're BIG TIME). has the gene pool changed since then? No.

most people eat poorly because they think they don't have time to eat well, and that just isn't true. also, because bad-for-you food is fucking delicious. but that's ok! just eat less of it!

gbx (skowly), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, beer is a lot of calories, hence: a meal! if i have 2 in the space of 30 minutes or something. which i may do. we'll see. yaay!

i have eaten a lot of salad today. and ran up (fake, treadmill) hills. i make 95% of my meals at home and i hardly even buy coffee/tea out. sometimes beer though, obv. but this is partly b/c i am teh poor studenty and b/c i don't really like cheap fast food at all. good roti or shish taok on the other hand...

yeah, i was thinking about portion control too when eating out. i can't have ice cream in the house b/c i tend to go through it fast, but going out and getting a cone is probably a good option! not eliminating the food entirely but distancing it from "craving" and "instant-access."

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

also: cooking at home doesn't take any more time than going out to eat, dudes. the amount of time that you spend leaving your apartment, going to the Bell or wherever, eating, and returning to your regularly scheduled whatever isn't that much longer than just cooking for yourself

This argument rests on the assumption that someone's "regularly scheduled whatever" is taking place at home. (For instance, if I wanted to make dinner in my apartment tonight, I'd have to come up with an extra hour and a half just in travel time getting there and back.) Also it assumes you don't live above or right next to or right across the street from a resaurant. Also unlike with cooking you can actually get a little bit more done (like reading or writing) while being served food.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Not tryna be funny, but Nabisco OTM. I have a slice o' pizza like once a week because it's close to where I usually park my car for driving out to Oak Park for band practice after work.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

It also fails to take into account the possibility of having to go to the store first and the time it takes to clean up afterwards.

Safety First (pullapartgirl), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

Also even if making-food time were the same as dining-out time, that wouldn't balance out the grocery-shopping-and-replenishment time that's a necessary prerequisite to the food-making.

But I mean you're right, of course, it's not necessarily quicker to dine out; cooking at home doesn't take that long at all; etc. I think it's less a matter of "time" in that way and more a matter of, umm, spatial arrangement -- not-cooking seems to link up more with not-being-home-around-mealtimes and having to grab quick things between other engagements.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Jody was just talking about tacos in the Southwest. My Chicago tacos always come with sour cream.

My Aurora/Joliet tacos come with just onion, cilantro, and sauce. One place offers "tex mex" tacos, that come with lettuce, cheese, and sour cream.

oops (Oops), Friday, 16 June 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

the funniest thing about right now is that it would be the perfect time for a taco.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Saturday, 17 June 2006 05:28 (nineteen years ago)

.....and so began her fourthmealing....

A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Saturday, 17 June 2006 06:37 (nineteen years ago)

cooking also necessitates a degree of planning at the grocery.... which i always find difficult to do.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 17 June 2006 07:24 (nineteen years ago)

Biking is good for losing weight but running isn't?!

Oh no! I mean, of course running is good for you, but apparently biking makes you lose fat more quickly? Something like that. I don't know, it's just what my husband's friend (an ex-triathlete) told him. Swimming and running are very good, but if you want to lose fat quickly, he recommended lots of biking. Swimming is good for getting muscles. Or something. Ah hell, I don't know. :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 17 June 2006 07:52 (nineteen years ago)

ah, i'm guessing he says this because biking primarily engages the quads and hamstrings, which are a huge muscle group (obv) - the theory being that the more/bigger muscles you're using, the more fat you're burning - plus you can ride a bike for a very long time at a moderate heart rate, which they say is the "fat-burning zone." but for people who tend to coast a lot or never go up hills or ride fast in part, i'm not so sure about it being the best fast burner. i love bike riding but feel like i'm doing more work when running, that is, getting a stronger all-over workout (hill/incline-running is important in this though) in a shorter amt of time. maybe it's all psychological though. swimming is serious work too and i find really improves endurance for other sports/exercise. i don't know! let's just do it all!

my fourth meal last night was hippie tea and some raisins. yeah, well, it was there.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Saturday, 17 June 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think ILX knows about second breakfast, Ned.

Then they're all fucking punks. (I might be biased.)

Tea and raisins? That is a snacklet, not a MEAL.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 June 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

well, my TRUE FOURTH MEAL was BEERS
earlier on

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Saturday, 17 June 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

I approve. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 17 June 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

I am enthused by Ned and Robyn's contributions to this thread. I am going to to eat Thai leftovers now.

lord pooperton (ex machina), Saturday, 17 June 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

my 4th meal was two beers. they just gave me a headache, too.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Saturday, 17 June 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

right now i'm having leftovers from my third meal as my first meal.

intensity in tent cities (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 17 June 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

yesterday's fourth meal was gin. first meal today is a huge fucking headache.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Saturday, 17 June 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

i'll have what he's having.

also: people that think that "cleaning up" constitutes a legitimate time constraint on cooking are the same jerks that leave dishes in the sink for me to clean.

gbx (skowly), Saturday, 17 June 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, the "clean up time" thing is blowing my mind. Also: almost everyone in big cities now can get DELIVERY groceries so shopping is no longer a time restraint on cooking :D

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Most things that you cook have some sort of wait time involved anyway, baking, simmering, etc. What you do is cleap up while this is going on, instead of sitting on your hands going "gee, I'm hungry". Voila you are cooking.

mummy wrapped in bacon (nickalicious), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

another taco bell ad campaign i just saw:

"think outside the bun"
example: Spicy Chicken CrunchWrap Supreme (real name!): chicken + sour cream and tomato and lettuce on a tostada shell WRAPPED in a big tortilla, which appears to be "grilled" (would've been deep-fried if this were 1987. or if taco bell had originated in quebec.)

i would totally eat this though.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I don't think Taco Bells have fryers.

Last night's fourth meal: two handfuls of cold basmati rice drunkenly shoveled into facehole.

mummy wrapped in bacon (nickalicious), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

haha - facehole
i have done that, but i put hoisin sauce on the fork first. drunk!

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

we talk about taco bell so much on ile

¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ¨ˆ (chaki), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

for rrrobyn:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IVx2JKuZp04&search=snl%20taco

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

haha, yes, that's what the commercial made me think of!
(i have such a crush of shame on andy samburg. i don't even watch snl and have only seen the shorts online! + http://www.thelonelyisland.com/. but lookit im - cute.)

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)


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