Firefox issues

any good? it's the non-flash version

I've had something weird on FF at home happen a couple of times. New tabs will just start opening - I mean like a hundred and I have to shut down. I think that's probably definitely a virus.

I am pretty much at my wit's end here -- sometime between when I went home on vacation last Wednesday night and when I came back on Monday, apparently Firefox decided that working on my machine was too much for it beyond ten minutes at a stretch. I'm running 2.0.0.6 on Mac OSX 10.4.10 -- without fail, sometimes almost promptly, it starts choking up and taking forever to load pages, switch between tabs, even respond when clicked on. I've seen the spinning ball far too often and have had to force quit god knows how many times. Regular quitting and machine restarts and more have had no effect, and again, absolutely nothing like this was giving me a problem before vacation and it's been nothing but grief since. A cursory examination of the bug report list mentions a couple of problems that might be mine but I just don't know. Anyone?

Safari.

Considering I switched from Safari a long time back, I'd ask for other suggestions.

Sorry, I just can't understand the love for FireFox. Safari is just so stable and loads a lot quicker than FF for me. Why did you switch anyway?

Have you tried to just reinstall it?

Or empty the cache?

Ned is that not sounding like a connection issue, rather than a browser problem? i guess you've already looked into that eh.

it sounds very similar to a problem i get sometimes, again with firefox, but further checking shows that IE5 produces slow internet pages. It sorts itself out after a day and i usually just put it down to crappy broadband service.

i'm away for the next 5 days and you can bet your bottom dollar that my computer will fail to work on my return, it usually does.

yeh this is happening to a lot of people, i've read that there are problems with displaying flash & memory leakage. some people have had success disabling the antiphishing. have you tried Camino?

you know when you try and download something big on firefox.. it seems to freeze the whole thing (and any other firefox window), while the download is in progress (and not tell you what progress it's making) until it's over.. is there a way to fix that??

Safari is just so stable and loads a lot quicker than FF for me. Why did you switch anyway?

Because I was experiencing the reverse. Cache-clearing so far has had no effect but I'll try it again -- as it is I need to head out to work so I won't have a chance to futz with it further until tonight.

Stet, good point about the connection issue but that doesn't seem to be it.

this is on windows xp

i mean, this is on windows xp xpost

I had this on my Apple as well.

i've got exactly the same OS X/FF combo as you, ned, and i have to say it does grind to a halt every few days or so ... nothing quite as frequent as you're having, though. how many extensions have you got running? have you tried chucking them all?

i really don't like safari at all, i have to say. it seems oddly unresponsive and slow.

can keith not write us a web browser?

actually: checking mine just there, it seems greasemonkey, foxytunes and a couple of others were in some odd limbo-like state (presumably since the 2.0.0.6 update) ... the icons in the add-ons menu were greyed out. hmm. i've uninstalled them because TBH i never use the things.

go on, check you've not got some rogue FF extension fucking shit up.

I'm glad (okay not really glad, but you get my point) to see others having the same issues with Firefox. Within the last two weeks my Firefox has recently started grinding to a near complete halt whenever I'm downloading a file (exact same problem as ken c).

yeah i have that downloading problem all the time, i just thought it was shite programming

hmm: i don't notice everything else grinding to a halt while i'm downloading, but it does do so *before* i download (for up to 20 seconds). like ste, i just thought it was sloppiness.

still prefer it to safari, though. sorry.

I've had problems with FF using up tons of CPU/RAM for no apparent reason lately (on XP), might well be extensions doing it, should try uninstalling and see if it helps.

> you know when you try and download something big on firefox.. it seems to freeze the whole thing (and any other firefox window), while the download is in progress (and not tell you what progress it's making) until it's over.. is there a way to fix that??

is this mostly pdfs? if it is then PDF file association (within firefox) from 'use this plugin' to 'use this application'. now they'll download in background then start acrobat rather than freezing friefox for the duration.

might work with other file types as well.

Since Monday, Firefox crashes every time I try to reply to an email from my gmail account. Why?? I went on vacation for a week and since I got back it's fuxored. IT IS A MYSTERY DOT GEE EYE EFF.

I can't imagine it's any of my extensions, I would have noticed that before my vacation break as well and haven't added any since. Still, I might experiment.

laurel: have had something similar with bad swf files embedded in a page, mostly ads. use adblock to block them. (you might need to view source in a different browser in order to find them)

it's with any kinds of files koogs, and i wasn't even trying to launch them, just to save to disk. the program will just freeze for the duration of the download and then eventually comes back with a little popup on the bottom right corner and say "All files download is complete", and bring up the downloads window.

it's like somebody forgot to run the download process in a background thread.

or maybe it's the way firefox wants to tell me "You decided to download a 15MB file. Good Job. Moron."

i do that all the time (firefox, winxp...) and it's fine.

it's not me, it's you.

modem problems? virus checker? disk space?

there must be SOMETHING, but i dunno what.

disk space maybe but there's definitely more than 15MB.

laurel: http://groups.google.com/group/Gmail-Problem-solving/browse_thread/thread/01835027fc45a73e/e8eece8a4a569b8b?lnk=raot

someone with same problem since last monday. clearing cache, deleting cookie fixed it.

Andy, you are a star. Thank you.

Ned: maybe try safe mode (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_mode#Mac_OS_X) and if that fixes things then start turning extensions on and off one at a time. Failing that, create a new OS X test user account and see if they have the same problem.

How dare you be sensible. I wanted to do something like reach into the computer and strangle the program.

You know what always breaks Firefox for me? The, um, All Music Guide.

Failing that, create a new OS X test user account and see if they have the same problem.

Before you resort to this, it might be worth quitting Firefox, moving ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox to, e.g. the Desktop, thus forcing Firefox to create a new profile the next time you launch it. If this fixes the problems then you're sorted. [If you want to restore your bookmarks, quit FF, find bookmarks.html in the old Firefox folder which is now on your Desktop and copy it to the same place in the new ~/Library/Application Support/Firefox folder, and restart.]

I was having system-wide slowness issues, Firefox downloads, Photoshop, you name it -- I finally just moved up getting my new system by eight months.

Ned, run Activity Monitor and see if there are any unidentified processes that are eating up CPU. Do you use a CPU monitor widget?

caek's advice is good.

Everyone, you have to remember to *think* in RUSSIAN.

Hahahaha

How often did I see that film on HBO in the early eighties? Oh, quite a few times...

2.0.0.6 for OS X is hopeless. fucking thing just hung on me trying to open a new tab ... wouldn't mind so much if i hadn't also been 95% through a 100+MB download. "restore session" doesn't restore the download ... i mean, come on, i used to have stuff on fucking OS9 that could resume a broken download. how come shitfox can't manage?

i'm going to hold out for the next update and see if it gets any better. if not, i'll go back to safari, which is also shit, but not *quite* as crash-happy.

I've just gone back to Safari and spent an hour or two researching and installing things that make it work in a way that means I won't miss Opera (Safari Stand for customisable keyword-led searching from the URL bar -- fuck using a fiddly drop-down menu. xGestures for letting me use mouse gestures to go back and forth between pages).

The one thing that really made me switch from Opera was the inability to submit from Scrabulous's messaging box. Funny the things browser choices hinge on.

I'm sure more people would use Opera if its default appearance weren't so fugly.

i've become pretty addicted to inquisitor for quick searches - http://www.inquisitorx.com/safari

Inquistor is *great*, but Leopard Safari kills it apparently. Grr.

You want Leopard to be crap?

If it's a shitty new dock or Inquisitor, I know which I'd etc

Good news, Firefox users, developers are finding out what's going on with the apparent memory leakage.

http://www.pavlov.net/blog/archives/2007/11/memory_fragment.html

FF 3 beta 1 is great but still beta (dragging & dropping of bookmarks is f*cked up, as is catsuppp dude's user name, since asian characters have now suddenly turned into boxes with numbers in them) :-/

that's what asian characters look like

^ nice

So that's why people always say "I'll have a 35 and a 42" in Chinese restaurants? Suddenly makes sense now, thanks!

FF 3 beta 1 keeps playing up on my Vista X64 machine. It installs fine and runs perfectly until I close it.

What happens then is that when I restart it "updates" to Firefox 2.0.10

Hmm..

firefox updated and wiped out my bookmarks, history, etc. annoying!

FOXMARKS

http://www.foxmarks.com

MOZBACKUP

http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/

http://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/1197784327416.png

lololololol

a(n) Detention?

Also, Guardians(s).

I guess it could be a hoax, but it's a popular topic at the moment:

http://www.google.be/search?q=firefox+detention

Also: people happen to get detention in Foxfire, the 1996 movie:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116353/

Firefox 3 beta 2 : anyone else experiencing loads of random hangs & crashes? beta 1 was a lot more stable, IMHO :-(

Anyway, this is pretty impressive, though:

http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0b2/firstrun/

:-)

Having Niagra Falls at the top of my browser was a dumb idea.

somehow i have changed a setting on FF where i cant scroll through pages using arrow keys and "end" or "home"

its viewing pages like a word document, with a little blinking cursor. if i click "end" it doesn't jump to the bottom of a page, the cursor jumps to the end of that line. when i want to scroll up or down, i have to wait for the cursor to go up through every line of text until it reaches the top or the bottom of the page before i can change what i'm seeing. if i am scrolling down and a large iamge comes up, it jumps to the bottom of that image.

ive tried uninstalling and reinstalling a few times but the paroblem is still there. also, when i uninstall and reinstall, my bookmarks, browsing history and cookies are all intact.

help.

ok fixed:
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x18/gr8080/ff.jpg

but i still cant figure out why my settings, history and cookies would be saved when i uninstall and reinstall.

Uninstalling probably doesn't remove your config/preferences. You'd have to manually delete those files.

Hitting F7 turns 'caret browsing' (for that is what it's called) on and off - there is a pop-up warning you about it, and asks if you are sure you want to turn it on, but you can disable the pop-up, and then you've no idea whether you've accidentally turned it on or not, until you try and scroll the page with the keys.

thanks!

Everytime I try and access a page at The Sun it (something) closes firefox down. Can anyone explain why this might be. It only happens at The Sun (so far)!

I mean it's not a bad thing particularly but...it's odd.

It'll likely be the embedded flash player. Mine doesn't close down but it freezes and prevents me switching tabs for a few seconds.

Can I do anything about it?

Turn off javascript when you go to that page.

Or read something else.

adblock the offending object. (you'll need to use ie7 or something to find out what the offending object is)

firefox often crashes on entry to a myspace page - however that's probably the fault of the clunky coding on myspace. Apart from that Firefox is superb.

Firefox is just trying to protect you from the abject horror of myspace and the Sun.

does anyone still bother with myspace?

i have never joined myspace, however i use it extensively for initial music listening. Music radio in the UK in the post Peel era is mostly crap, so i do my own research.

Anyone else finding Firefox flakier than usual since the last update? Mine crashes several times a day.

FF 3 beta 4 ? I've completely ditched 2.x since this beta is better than that one. The previous betas all had problems (for me that is), this one doesn't anymore.

(I think most of the difference is caused by the plugins used)

2.0.0.13

The only add-ons running are the British-English dictionary and AVG Safe Search. I might go for the beta and see if that helps.

re: Anyone else finding Firefox flakier than usual since the last update? Mine crashes several times a day.

yes, particularly with yahoo mail also getting rid of yahoo messenger from the taskbar helps a bit.

more info:

Firefox crashes
http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Firefox+crashes

Taking away the home button on Firefox is a fucking stupid idea. I've got to hit alt+home to go back to my homepage and it really pisses me off.

uh

Put it back up there?

It was never there to start with! Version 3.0b4, by the way.

When you go to view->toolbars->customize, does it appear there?

No

For the last 3-4 weeks, FF opens ILX as vertical sidebar on the left hand side of the browser (much like the history window). This only happens with ILX. Anyone has an idea what the problem might be?

they want you to use the bookmarks toolbar, so that's where they've put the home button. view -> toolbars -> bookmarks toolbar

xpost

Fucking hell. Thanks.

I'm using the beta 3 on a Mac and it seems very stable and doesn't seem to hog memory as much as it used to.

There's a FF3 Beta 5 as of today

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html

RC = the new beta.

first impression: very fast

If I were you I'd be a little more careful and take some time for my second impression.

When you go to view->toolbars->customize, does it appear there?
Open that, then drag it up from the bookmarks bar to the main bar. It'll stick.

beta 5 has home back up at the top

mine doesn't

Are you all using Windows? I use Firefox (2.0.013) in Ubuntu Linux and it's fine. Flash videos crash it sometimes, but that's always happened.

hmm, i'm using mac beta 5

woah the beta has a different font. change is bad!

oh no it doesn't... i always increase the text size when reading ilx, it seems the beta has an extra level of zoom so now i have to increase it twice.

mac and linux code base would be similar, wouldn't it?

ugh, adblock plus is incompatible with 3b5 right now.

^ more than enough reason to stay on 2.0

Still takes forever to load.

ugh, adblock plus is incompatible with 3b5 right now.

Install Nightly Tester Tools - http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly - and you can use it to make all your plug-ins compatible with whatever version of Firefox you're using.

they gotta come up with a better way of checking extension compatibility than just "it's newer! It'll break"

Can someone find what this whole preplaces/postplaces bookmarks bullshit is all about? I'm trying to manually edit my bookmarks file but they've gone and turned the whole procedure into some kind of sqlite database thing - you know, the kind of counterintuitive crap that's going to drive people away.

Firefox 3 really brings the... ugly. Don't you think? I don't like the keyhole style back/forward buttons.

Also - rounded address bar??

Zoomy, mind.

i had to scale down the java runtime settings from 1.6.0_05 to 1.6.0_03, because the browser kept seizing up out of nowhere

anyone else had this?
(i'm using xp64, firefox 2.0.0.13)

funny, looking back at my comments upthread. can't have been long after i was posting them that i gave up on firefox and switched to safari. never looked back :)

capricious? moi?

I looked back. It was crashing all the time for me. Also, Safari was to blame for this:

Security Showdown: OS X Caves First, Vista Buckles (Due To Flash), Ubuntu Wins

Firefox 3 really brings the... ugly. Don't you think?

Download the GrApple theme.

Is there an HTML/BBCode editor plugin for Safari similar to BBCodeXtra or Xinha?

is there any way to get FF to start a bit faster?

Safari is pretty great now, but I can't go back to a world without mouse gestures. Adblock, Flashgot, right click menu to custom search plugin (Context Search), are all fantastic too, but especially mouse gestures, it's a dealbreaker. I'm still on FF 2.x, though, updating all those plugins everytime a new beta comes out is a pain.

Firefox Preloader is a utility that is designed to load parts of Mozilla Firefox into memory before it is used to improve the its startup time.

I switched back to Safari this weekend but I might have to go back to Firefox for PicLens. GrApple might aid in transitioning back, thanks. It's just a re-skinning though, isn't it? It doesn't behave the same way as Safari does when windows are background and foreground.

It's a small thing, sure, but...

NHex (assuming you're on OS X): I use XGestures for all my mouse gesturing needs.

I can't use Allmusic.com on Firefox because it crashes all the time, but it seems to be a specific problem with that site, as it hasn't happened with anywhere else yet. I'm using 2.0.0.13.

Alba: Oh nice! I have to give that a try. And he's not charging a ridiculous amount, either, which is nice for once.

Allmusic is one of the most sluggish, crap-programmed sites I've ever been to, they've really got to overhaul that bastard.

The gestures I have assigned to my browsers are:

Right click+mouse left = back
Right click+mouse right = forward
Rock left (right mouse button then left mouse button) = go to address bar
Right click+mouse up = go to top of page
Right click+mouse down = go to end of page

The last two are particularly useful for ILE threads

I also have rock right defined as a cross-app "play/pause iTunes" command.

woah at piclens.

I've never used mouse gestures, I try not to use the mouse as much as possible.

Do you navigate ILE with your keyboard? I have never got the hang of that.

i had vimperator on for a while, but actual links are a bit easier with the mouse, yeh.

okay I've been using vi for most of my life but Vimperator gives me a raging headache.

everyone switch to safari, i did & it practically changed my life

jk its not really that great

agreed that allmusic is awful
ALWAYS slow for me too

so hey everybody
I keep getting fucked up errors from Flash 9 in FF 3.0 under Leopard when I'm browsing blogs with embedded video (jesse jackson's cut his nuts out is fucking everywhere) and it beachballs for like 20-30 seconds then complains about a script. Is this happening to anybody else, and does anybody know the issue?

i just need a place to vent that firefox's Find feature can suck it.
everytime i search for something on the page, it scrolls down a little and DOESN'T HIGHLIGHT ANYTHING

ad;kljasd;lfkjads;flkja;dslfkj!

i have a problem where i go to youtube and the video plays for 2 seconds then halts (no sound). this only happens after my firefox browser has been open for a couple of hours or more. it seems to be something to do with java or flash but i've turned all these off in the 'add ons' section, and redownloaded/reinstalled them but it still happens. it started happening a few months ago with firefox 2 but it's happening with firefox 3 too. any ideas what this could be?

i was also having a problem with bookmarks in firefox 3 - if i added new bookmarks they'd disappear when i restarted the browser. ive solved this by making sure i go to: bookmarks > organise bookmarks > import & backup and do both 'backup' and 'export html'. doing this ensures all bookmarks are there for good. just a little tip there for anyone else having this problem, hopefully mozilla will fix this properly soon.

NoScript, I love you, but STOP UPDATING EVERY TWO DAYS YOU FUCK

(sorry :-( it's annoying sometimes)

okay firefox aficionados, riddle me this:

1. How come in FF on Mac, after a couple hours, the browser randomly stops recognising style sheets? This happens most often with Bebo pages and E4/C4 (I use FF for work; I'm not an avid Bebo/C4/E4 user otherwise).

2. How come in FF on Mac, after a couple hours, the browser stops knowing how links work? Refreshing doesn't do anything, and trying to click a link doesn't do anything. It pretends to do stuff but then just lands on the same page with no changes.

The only solution I've found for these issues (usually occuring around the same time) is to force quit the browser and start again (which is a bit annoying during a shift).

3. How come in FF on Windows, certain sites result in tabs being disabled? For example, if I open up site E, I can no longer click on the tabs for sites A-D and have them show in the main window. The only way I can get to them is by cycling through with the keyboard, and then magically the tabs start being clickable again.

I have tried reinstalling and restarting and all that rubbish but nothing helps... except maybe you, dear ILX. please? anyone?

grrr it just did both 1 and 2 to me again

worst browser ever

If something spooky like that happens I usually create a new profile (first export your passwords and favorites so you can import them again) and that's always fixed it.

http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Profiles

i had a variation of problem 2 with FF so i switched to camino and i think it stopped

1. Update to latest
2. Delete preferences
3. Disable add-ons

If the problem persists, you have something wrong with yr computer and should reinstall the OS.

oh man I was really hoping it wouldn't be something to do with my add-ons, but that might be it (makes sense, because I think this only started after I installed it). problem is, if I remove the add-on (flashblock), moderating Bebo sites becomes about a million times more annoying. guuhhh.

thanks for the suggestions.

http://www.privoxy.org

Guaranteed not to fuck with FFX.

NoScript, I love you, but STOP UPDATING EVERY TWO DAYS YOU FUCK

― StanM, Monday, October 13, 2008 7:15 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

Is it possible to get addons to update in the background, without bugging the user or redirecting to their homepage after installation? If there isn't, (and http://noscript.net/faq#qa2_6 doesn't bloody work), then it's goodbye NoScript here.

I miss drag to new window tabs in safari

Kinda thinking about using Flock now that it supports legit FF add ons

can you change the order of the toolbars in firefox 3, i.e I want the Google Toolbar to be underneath the Yahoo Toolbar.

i suspect that if you go to view > toolbars > customize, you can drag them where you want them

I've lost all my bookmarks AND I can't go back to the last pages, there's no history or anything, BUT it has saved my passwords. Is this some kind of virus? Should i stop typing now and get the hell out of here?

It won't bookmark anything either.

Sounds like your profile has has corrupted. If you're on Windows, it'll be somewhere under C:\Documents and Settings\blah blah\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\ - make a copy of it just in case, then delete the original and restart FF.

(path)\firefox.exe -profilemanager

3.5.2, die die die

I've been running it without worries -- what's up?

Generally slow, often unresponsive/beachbally. I googled around a little and I'm definitely not alone. Apparently there's a Skype extension that's causing a lot of trouble, but that's not applicable for me. I just backed up and reinstalled 3.5, we'll see how that goes.

Installed the beta of 3.6. Much faster on start-up and in general.

3.5.5 still hogs resources like you wouldn't believe, especially if you have gmail open or something ajax-heavy, wich seems really bullshit. I shouldn't check activity monitor and find my browser using 80% of CPU resources.

which platform?

under linux there used to be a problem where having lots of tabs loading would eat cpu. it was actually the little animations in each tab that was causing the problem (was an mng or something)... and changing that, using css, stopped it.

on Mac. I'm running Namoroka alpha now, still not much better.

Using Mac 3.6b3. Using the extensions.checkCompatibility tweak to enable incompatible add-ons isn't working for some reason, any ideas?

Got the same on the Windows version. Think it has to do with this new feature.

"The extensions.checkCompatibility preference becomes less relaxed. In the past, it has been abused by users as a way to force incompatible extensions to work with newer Firefox versions. The preference is still there but it will have to be more explicit. For example to force them to work with Firefox 3.6, you wll have to add extensions.checkCompatibility.3.6 and set it to false. For future versions you will need to set extensions.checkCompatibility.3.7 to false and so on."

Right, just set this in about:config - because it's a beta, you have to add the preference as extensions.checkCompatibility.3.6b

Fucking developers.

thanks so much! how annoying.

I dunno if it's just FF or all crappy browsers, but why won't it/they render the page when all the content is loaded except for some shitty ads?

yes, odd especially as the ads are usually constrained to iframes or images of a known size.

two words: adblock plus.

Just upgraded to 3.5.5 and now my awesome bar dropdown doesn't drop down when I click on it, this happen to anyone else? I click and I click and it just sits there, mocking me.

my bookmark toolbar has disappeared and i've tried three different online "fixes"

Fuck Firefox. I'm ready to move to a different browser. Any suggestions

firefox has been so fucky with me lately i just switched to chrome which seems fine

i really want to use chrome, but it's 4.5 and up and my joint is a 10.4.11

Anyone else having weird "Remember password" issues? FF 3.5.7 on Win7. I have the damn box checked in my options, but the second I'm logging into a site, it disappears. I think it has something to do with the fact that I unchecked the "Accept cookies" box (I've got my exceptions set up).

By "disappears," I mean the "Remember password" box gets unchecked. After I've actually logged in, it's checked again.

firefox has been mad crashy for me lately. maybe i will try chrome!

whiney just buy snow leopard, only $30 (or are you running on a powerpc mac)

do i need snow leopard, btw?

not really, just makes your mac a lil faster, and futureproofs you for the time being

i have never been able to use firefox w/ tiger, very slow and crashy
i don't think i will get a new OS until this computer dies though

oh i have 10.4.11 too. i use camino i dunno

now there's a word I haven't read in a long time

i really want to use chrome, but it's 4.5 and up and my joint is a 10.4.11

― touch me i'm acoleuthic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:18 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

can't u up to 4.5 w/o paying? system update styles?

you can also try webkit (it's what safari is based on)

http://nightly.webkit.org/

why does everyone hate camino i don't get it

mozilla power, mac style if i recall correctly

I used to use camino back when I had a powerbook, but firefox's extensions + chrome's speed have made it redundant

yeah i mean i would be using firefox if it was not so slowwwwwwww on this thing

i used webkit a lot. it also locks up a lot but runs a lot better than safari did (for some reason reg safari was impossibly slow for me).

actually using webkit right now!

fyi i am running 10.5.8 and also had lots of issues w/ java stuff in firefox.

try chrome tehresa! or are you on a powerpc?

macbook
i am playing around with it some now.

is there a reason google's own browser doesn't come with a google search bar in the browser?
where do i add this?

the browser bar is the search bar

well then.
lol @ me!

can't u up to 4.5 w/o paying? system update styles?

― nutrition na'vi (s1ocki), Tuesday, January 12, 2010 11:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how do i do that? i'm pretty dumb when it comes to this stuff sometimez

you can't, i think he meant chrome version, you meant mac os

Well, this is embarrassing.

Firefox is having trouble recovering your windows and tabs. This is usually caused by a recently opened web page.

how do i do that? i'm pretty dumb when it comes to this stuff sometimez

― touch me i'm acoleuthic (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:26 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

sys prefs -> system update -> check for updates -> install

it would tell you automatically if you had anymore free updates though (i think you get 5? i believe i started at 10.4.6). i don't have any, that's why i'm still at 10.4.11.

If fonts in Firefox are suddenly borked, it's due to a NoScript bug. I posted a workaround in the NoScript thread.

been having trouble with firefox on shutdown - 100% busy, hanging processes called things like 'n' and 'qtstimer' (quicktime plugin). today my internet is very stopy starty, doing things like not downloading stylesheets. bad.

anyway, have just updated to 3.6 to see if it's any better. it now comes with skins, er, personas so you can make it hard to see anything in your bookmark toolbar and make it more obvious you are browsing...

http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/

3.6 did seem slightly better, at least it shut down correctly.

the way your persona changes when you rollover that above page is disturbing.

i dig it! problem is i'm on Tree Style Tab, and the vast majority of personas don't take that into account (understandably) so you end up with part of an image + a weird background color as the background to all the vertically stacked tabs 95% of the time

the new behaviour for new tabs is confusing me - middle click now opens a tab to the right of the current one, not at the end. it is probably a better idea (and is configurable) but i am old and set in my ways.

That's how ie does it. I approve.

btw I opted in to YouTube new html5 way of playing videos; goodbye shitty, roach infested flash

In Firefox 3.6 I have to ALT+right click if I want to see Google Maps right click menu. If I just right click, I get Firefox' right click menu with the outline of Google's rightclick menu behind the top left corner. :-/

Damn thing about the Youtube HTML5 support is that Apple and Google want to support H.264 video while Opera and Firefox want to go with Ogg Theora, so a lot of videos still won't play in FF3.6 even with the video tag spport. The codec problem is a major reason Flash is a standard now, so this is kind of silly...

Sure Ogg would have better support if it didn't have a stupid name.

ogg doesn't have a big company with vested interests behind it.

and theora is generally considered to be last generation, which doesn't help. h.264 is increasingly supported by dedicated hardware decoders leaving the cpu to so other things. but there are licensing fess to pay.

i tried living with it but...

in about:config
browser.tabs.insertRelatedAfterCurrent = false

and sanity is restored

having a really frutrating problem when trying to access the Guardian website:

- The site will not load at all. The heading in the title bar shows up but the main display screen remains greyed-out, and the status usually says 'transferring data from ad.guardian.co.uk'.
- This happens for about 2 weeks at a time then suddenly it'll stop and the site will load fine for a few days, then stop again.
- I use the latest version of Firefox but this problem also occurs when I try Opera and IE.
- I've tried wiping my history, cached files, temporary internet files, temporary files, cookies, logins, etc. It makes no difference.

I think it's something to do with the ads as I've managed to access it by using one of those proxy sites that clear all CSS type things, but those kind of sites require a subscription and I'd rather access the Guardian site 'cleanly'.

anyone got any ideas what I can do to fix this?

adblock. or put ad.guardian.co.uk in your hosts file.

the page is waiting to hear back from the ad server before it renders. this is bad.

great thanks! i'll try out the adblock thing now. weird how it affects both opera and firefox the same way, i get the feeling it's something to do with java/flash.

very often page dn and home/end keys have no effect

also copy/paste sometimes not even available

sod it, switched to chrome instead

I keep getting a pop up box saying "Please enter the master password for [My Name]" and it's impossible to get rid of, and I've no idea what this password is. I've checked in my Firefox preferences and the option to ask for the master password is unchecked, so no idea why it's asking me. I'm assuming this is a virus of some kind?

this is probably not possible, but i was wondering if there's a way to set a default application for a .doc file or an mp3 instead of having to manually choose "office -> word" or "itunes" -- i see the box that says "do this automatically with files of this kind" but i don't want to ALWAYS open the file, but when i do want to open the file, i don't want to have to choose the application when i always choose word or itunes

i hope that made sense and is possible

Tools > Options > Applications, innit?

well i can get it to where i can choose which app i want to be the default, but then it will automatically open the file in that app instead of asking me if i want to save or open

maybe i'm being too picky but it's a pain in the ass to have word laboriously open and grind my computer to a halt to open a file that i don't want to look at immediately and it's equally a pain in the ass to have to choose office -> word when i do want to read a file immediately

man talk about first world problems -_-

chrome can do this iirc (but it's not ff)

i have enough browsers that don't work exactly to my liking

can you not just right click on any links you don't want to look at immedaitely and choose 'save as' from the pop-up menu?

Yeah, if you want to keep the one-click behavior to open the program, just right click > save as every time you want to save it. Depends which one you do more - if you Save to file more often, let the dialog box open every time, otherwise have it default to open.

So I've updated to 3.6 because "they" kept telling me to, and now the German's are telling me to stop using it. What should I do?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8580716.stm

I've updated to beta 3.6.2 just in case. It's a release candidate, to be released on March 31st, so that shouldn't have too many problems left.

Ah, they're skipping 3.6.1 AND 3.6.2, there's this 3.6.3 already:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla-1.9.2/

this last week has been a firefox shitstorm tbh, will skip directly to 3.6.3 imo

The alpha release of 3.7 (AKA Minefield) is pretty solid. The UI update is nice, too.

3.6.2. released a week early (3.6.3 is beta after all - confusing)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/23/firefox_zero_day_fix/

3.6.3, why u freeze network?

3.6.x is all crap imho

Just upgraded my Firefox and now nothing is loading at all. Nice work.

Firefox started giving me grief about a month back -- switched to Chrome and haven't looked back.

Chrome?

Google Chrome browser = http://www.google.com/chrome

I'm finding certain things about Chrome annoying, too. still haven't found a worthy 'noscript' replacement, and the options are too sparse... I went to some site a few days ago and the page had embedded sound which just started blaring out of my speakers. I can't remember the last time that happened with Firefox+Adblocker+noscript.

yeah chrome is not chunky enough. even aesthetically i appreciate the big button ie6ishness still native to ff and thats before i weigh it down with toolbars. i use chrome to look at long ilx threads and play flash pacman

I just tried reinstalling Firefox and it's working fine now. I don't know what happened yesterday. Maybe I accidentally interrupted the complete installation, but I'm not sure how I could have done that.

Teblo's Shoetie browser is the best way to go. It makes Opera look the the J. Geils Band of browsers. I think Google has done some weird thing to block all references to it, though, so if you're running Chrome (or maybe even FF?) you can't even link to their website.

Tell us how to find it then. Are either of the two words spelled correctly?

how do we shoetie browser

teblo's shoetie is obsolete shite

...almost a palindrome.

yeah, that was beautiful, stet... but the idea that it's somehow obsolete is severely misguided. they just did a summer equinox update that would probably knock your socks off.

i found out about the browser through a promotion that Hi-C brand soft drinks were running.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9178578/Mozilla_updates_Firefox_to_crush_Farmville_complaints

Trying out the 4.0 beta (or at least, the latest Minefield which is due to be the beta this week). It feels fast -- not as fast as Safari/Chrome in the benchmarks, but much faster than FF3.

WTF is plugin-container.exe and why does it try and eat all my RAM?

It runs the plug-ins, like Flash. Does it actually use any more RAM than the old way?

Seems to. The computer is freezing for minutes at a time if I go on a thread with a bunch of Youtube embeds for example. I know my puter's getting old but this seems to be a last couple of months thing.

type about:config in the address bar and set all of these to false

dom.ipc.plugins.enabled;false
dom.ipc.plugins.enabled.npctrl.dll;true
dom.ipc.plugins.enabled.npqtplugin.dll;true
dom.ipc.plugins.enabled.npswf32.dll;true
dom.ipc.plugins.enabled.nptest.dll;true

that disables plugin container but 3.64 still seems slow

Okay giving that a spin, cheers.

4.0 beta's a dog on Mac. Don't bother yet if you need any kind of stability.

WTF is plugin-container.exe and why does it try and eat all my RAM?

― The Birdman of Alcaraz (Noodle Vague), Monday, July 5, 2010 12:31 AM (Yesterday)

I am having the same exact problem. It comes out of nowhere and eats it all up. I can't even load up the ilm tracks thread because of it. I just tried the fix that nakhchivan suggested -- I hope it works. This browser just eats up too much ram, and I'm getting tired of it.

ubuntu updated firefox today and it went back to 'open tab next to current tab'. grrr.

about:config
browser.tabs.insertRelatedAfterCurrent = false

Just upgraded my Firefox and now nothing is loading at all. Nice work.

― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 27 June 2010 17:22 (1 month ago) Bookmark

Not quite nothing, but I'm getting a load of misdirects and unsafe site messages on sites that are working fine with Chrome. For instance, late rooms, and, ironically, http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ - ha!

Anyone using Firefox Sync yet?

uhhh why has the character encoding on firefox suddenly gone nuts for me? i DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING and suddenly there's no text on certain websites, just boxes instead of characters. how do i change it back? and why is it fucking around with me when i DIDN'T CHANGE ANYTHING in the first place?

Anyone using Firefox Sync yet?

been using xmarks forever (does the same thing + cross-browser capability) but when/if they add extension syncing i'm there

Does anyone know if Google Chrome has plugins like Ad Block Plus, NoScript etc? Cos Firefox has been shite for ages now and my colleage reckons he switched to Chrome a while ago and has none of the same issues, i.e. eating up tons of RAM and being incredibly slow. Whenever my laptop slows to a crawl and I run Task Manager it's always bloody Firefox.

yeah, get chrome

OMFG I WANT TO KILL SOMEONE

after weeks of firefox yelling at me to install the new version i downloaded it and now THE FUCKING THING WON'T OPEN. yes i've tried restarting. i click on firefox and it just hangs there beachballing.

I DON'T HAVE THE FUCKING TIME FOR THIS RIGHT NOW WHY DOES THIS ALWAYS HAPPEN WHY DON'T I FUCKING LEARN - NEVER. INSTALL. UPDATES.

oh wait as soon as i posted that it opened

if it takes 20 minutes to open every time out now, my desire to kill people will stand

fuck computers for real

and fuck people who know about them, i'm 100% convinced this is entirely a conspiracy on your part to ruin my life

Mac or PC? As I'm sure has been said somewhere on this thread before, FF is the go-to on PC, but the Mac version is more of a disaster with every update. If you're on a mac, use Safari, or (better yet) Chrome. I'm totally converted to Chrome now.

mac

can't use chrome as it's not compatible w/whatever version i have

don't want to have to get used to safari, just want firefox to FUCKING WORK PROPERLY IS THIS TOO DIFFICULT TO ASK

Sadly, yes. Abandon that hope, is my advice.

i want to be introduced to someone involved in this cunting programme so i can punch them in the face

I HAVE A LOT OF ANGER IN ME THAT I NEED TO TAKE OUT ON SOMEONE RIGHT NOW

i swear down without computer issues i'd be a genuinely chilled person

it still keeps fucking quitting! why fucking update something if you're going to make it worse? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

how is it possible to put something this shit out there? are the firefox developers all complete cunts, or just retarded?

SO MUCH ANGER IN ME

obv. a personal vendetta against you -- must be why nobody else is having problems.

Maybe the firefox developers just really love Radiohead.

obv. a personal vendetta against you

i actually genuinely believe this

like i'm not doing anything out of the fucking ordinary so WHY DOESN'T IT JUST FUCKING WORK AND STOP FUCKING ME AROUND WHY WHY WHY

would be easier to get used to Safari tbh.... (fuck a mac personally, but that's just me)

ew

i'm going to try sea monkey

i got used to chrome in the brief period i had it - really liked how light it was. completely sucks that they can't be bothered to make it compatible with this mac version.

also it's such a peeve of mine when people respond to computer issues with 'well PCs are shit!" or "well macs are shit!" - uhhh THAT'S SO HELPFUL

FF4 beta is really not looking good AT ALL yet (ever?).

Flaky and dog-slow it's actaully a regression for me on both machines used it on including home machine.

Was perfectly fine with 3.6 apart from teh occasional crash :(

What specs does your computer have that makes it Chrome incompatible?

Chrome needs 10.5.6. Am guessing Lex is on Tiger. Lex: Have you tried Camino? Firefox rendering without all the crap. It's probably the best 10.4 browser.

Or, actually, Omniweb works on 10.4.8 -- it has the latest version of webkit (same engine as Chrome and Safari). It looks dog ugly when you first run it, you have to turn off manic toolbars etc.

i have 10.4.11

I was just trying not to be a booster for any OS really. Although it didn't come out that way :/ Fair enough.

Use whichever causes you the least issues of any kind. And then SSS TTTT FFFF UUUUUUUUUUUPP trying to "convert" other people to your own experience.

Thrillingly, this debate has moved on to phones lately.

i'm finding nu-firefox quicker but a LOT more prone to random - completely random - freezes and crashes.

i briefly used chrome when i upgraded to 10.5 - a matter of months later, that hard drive EXPIRED - so i've had to return to this one. i hate everything about this situation. i sometimes dream of how much better my year would have been if my computer had just fucking WORKED LIKE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO

lol I was going to suggest upgrading your OS but now I know better

is camino pretty light? been recommended sea monkey, and have downloaded - was gonna try to transfer bookmarks etc later, once i've done this work

oh god i just remembered how many sites i rely on cookies to access, and how many passwords i just have...no idea, none whatsoever, about

*cries*

i would really like to upgrade my OS but i don't know how

pretty much they never do. sorry (unhelpful again). would recommend learning to deal with it + take regular backups.

tip to remembering passwords - never ever "save" them :P

sorry... bit harsh haha (working in IT too long). works for me though. store in brain.

You can often transfer your saved passwords when you move between browsers, no?

store in brain.

yeah this doesn't work.

You can often transfer your saved passwords when you move between browsers, no?

i do hope so!

store them elsewhere than your browser would probably be the best path (sorry I don't have any recommendations but others will)... I pretty much completely store bookmarks online these days for that reason. can't find a browser that doesn't piss me off anymore so been chopping & changing like crazy for 6 months.

It should be very easy to upgrade if you have an installation disk:

- insert disk
- click "Install/Upgrade OS" (or something similar)
- let machine reboot
- select yr language and "upgrade OS"
- wait for install to finish
- profit

Reading through this may help: http://lifehacker.com/#!315637/upgrade-mac-os-x-to-leopard

If you don't have an upgrade disk, preface these directions with:
- go to Apple.com or an Apple store and get an OS installation/upgrade disk

yeah i'm always tempted to switch but i just really really like familiarity in my browsers - it's a tool for me, not something i want to have to constantly think about. i don't understand why so few seem to be adequate, is it that hard? i mean a lot of them seem to be ALMOST great but not quite.

i think i might get gareth to help me upgrade.

a lot of them seem to be ALMOST great but not quite.

Opera is the undisputed king of the entire cunted world at this game.

All I want too is a simple, fast, secure, transparent "don't need to think" functional browser requiring minimal, if any, extensions.

Can't believe it but I'm currently digging IE 9 RC (!!)

Camino is really lightweight. Seamonkey is shit: it's like Firefox, but with a Mail and chat app baked in. (It's the direct descendent of Netscape).

a lot of them seem to be ALMOST great but not quite.
Opera is the undisputed king of the entire cunted world at this game.

And if you dare go onto the forums to ask about these bugs, you'll be met with a chorus of "Opera has never gone wrong for me so the 500 people who reported this clearly have no idea how to use a computer, lock thread". Or at best "how dare you come on here and complain when you haven't deleted the profile of all your bookmarks and preferences to see if it works?" Uh, cz actually I like having bookmarks and preferences, and if having some bookmarks is making my browser crash randomly and not load sites then maybe the browser should be fixed. Y'know?

Every browser has like 2 or 3 things about it which I totally love and the others don't do, and 2 or 3 things about it which make me swear at it several times a day.

Except IE. There's nothing I love about IE. Maybe that's something.

I love that IE is the only browser to do full-page caching properly. None of this "to go back we have to resubmit a form" bollocks.

I always thought that was a security measure.

I usually google "speed up firefox" whenever I install it. Then I end up at some firefox configuration website and following step by step instructions to change certain things from true to false, etc. The nice thing about doing this is that when I search for something in the top right toolbar the results pop up in a new tab now.

And having all those firefox plugins to choose from is nice. I rarely get pop-up ads anymore.

i have switched to camino. let us see how this goes.

any good twitter client for camino? ideally one that works within the browser, like echofon on firefox - which popped up in the bottom right hand corner.

No, it's just because they don't have the entire page stored and so would have to get it from the server. What *should* happen is they keep the entire page and just redisplay (that's what the specs say, too). But it's a bit more complicated now that there are big dynamic pages being changed by javascript, so often it's not possible to go right "back" in any meaningful sense. So they don't even try.

(There is a security aspect in that WebKit's page cache doesn't operate at all on https pages, unlike IEs.) xp to Alba.

http://support.mozilla.com/fy-NL/questions/780884

This is the one you're talking about, yes? So in IE it would cache the whole page in a way that meant there was no risk of you accidentally buying two toasters when you click the back button? Nice.

Yes, exactly. You can see it too if you eg load a Graun page in both and then go offline. Hit back on Safari/Firefox and it'll complain about not having network, IE will just show the last page, fast. (This is really a pain on iPad/iPhone, though they're getting better about caching the live page there)

Release Candidate for Firefox 4.0 is out - http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2011/03/09/mozilla-firefox-4-release-candidate-for-windows-mac-and-linux-now-available/

my adblockPlus menu button thing has a 'recommend us on facebook' button on the bottom of it. can anyone else confirm this? this is exactly the kind of garbage i use adblock to filter out...

(firefox 4)

ha, it's an FAQ

http://adblockplus.org/en/faq_customization#facebook_remove

Lex: Have you tried Camino? Firefox rendering without all the crap. It's probably the best 10.4 browser.

i installed camino, and have had NO PROBLEMS in the month since. thanks! :)

Anyone notice Flash performance is kinda terrible in 4? I've noticed this on both Mac and Windows.

Firefox recommends you install this important security update: Firefox 6.0

*click*

The following add-ons are incompatible with this version of Firefox and will be disabled: pretty much fucking all of them - including my AV Safe Search. Thanks for the extra lack of security and reduced functionality you tits.

I should just stick with Chrome all the time tbh.

Firefox is checking for updates to your extensions, and will shortly tell you it can't find any.

Fun with Firefox

Fun with Firefox

don't say i didn't warn you...

Firefox is checking for updates to your extensions, and will shortly tell you it can't find any.

It found one (.NET framework assistant) - which I had previously switched off. It has now froze trying to install it (or it's a huge update - no progress bar to indicate um progress).

Did they force an update again while I wasn't looking? Suddenly started going so slow last night I had to CTRL-ALT-DELETE. It just took five minutes - literally five minutes - to go from start to ILX. Which, granted, is the most flash and java intensive site on the internet.

I have a Firefox error. It makes the ILX window big enough to read all the text.

dammit, suddenly the latest autoupdate makes firefox incompatible with my version of OSX, 10.4.11

"You cannot use the application "Firefox" with this version of Mac OS X"

really, why fuckin not? i could this morning... i am on chrome which is very bad.

anybody have any ideas here? i keep googling around to find which version will still work, and what just changed today, but i'm not having much luck.

Firefox versions incrementing faster than street numbers in J.G. Ballard's Concentration City.

this is why I disable auto update on EVERYTHING

There's basically no good Mac browser right now. Safari has this insane "lol i killed your tab" bullshit from iOS, Chrome is mental, Firefox is a heap, Camino is dog-slow, OmniWeb is ancient, Opera is Opera.

The fastest browser in all the speed tests on this machine is actually IE9 running under Windows. Lunacy.

I don't really like Safari (tho I'm using it), but I'm not sure what you mean w/ 'lol I killed your tab'? issue. Is it something I just haven't noticed?

The FF auto-update from last night is actually running a good bit faster for me, fingers crossed that it stays that way. There's a particular method of handling RSS feeds that makes Firefox my preferred browser, but I've been skating on the edge of going to Safari or Chrome as the main one.

If you keep lots of tabs open in Safari, eventually it starts purging the oldest ones (to save memory). When you click on an old tab, it reloads it from the server. So not only do you have to wait, but the page could have changed and you also lose anything you had typed into a form on that tab.

It's the same behaviour they have in Safari ON IPHONE. But iPhones have very little memory, and this Mac has a lot, so it's a stupid thing to copy.

The latest Chrome has something weird in the CSS that is breaking lots of sites for me (including ILX on the default theme)

That expains why I've never encountered that issue – I've never have more than a half dozen tabs open. My big beef w/ Safari is the way incredibly ugly and jittery way it handles text/line/layout during resizing.

xp i was seeing that too.. reinstalled the stable branch and now fonts are rendering like shit

Why does my monitor dim when firefox is displaying a page with a black or dark background? It's v annoying!

am getting boxes with unicode "FF44" in them instead of graphics on bbc.co.uk this morning

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00rwkjd

in the pink box to the right of "Listen Now"

Ok here with 16.0.1 + kubuntu.

yeah, after being trouble all this morning (on bbc2 schedule also) it's fine now. think they are using a custom font instead of graphics for the tiny things.

One day neither Firefox, Windows Explorer, nor Windows Mail will start up. No explanation as to why. I have connection to the internet, my virus definitions are up to date, and a program I use that works by remote desktop shows I am connected to the internet. Firefox starts in safe mode, but even if I reset it it won't start outside of safe mode.

http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/951898

So yesterday Firefox crashed and i tried to open it back up and it crashed again before it would even load. I tried again and got "open in safe mode" and i can use it in this but none of my plugins are available, etc. I also tried opening IE and it crashed befored starting as well. Anyone else having this problem? Looks like maybe this is an issue that just came up a day or so ago.

So I updated to Firefox v22 a few days ago, and suddenly all my fonts and icons are changed in size. Some too big, some too small. Evidently others are having this problem, and I read their explanation, but though it helped some, none of those suggestions have reverted everything back to normal. I've mucked with the default font size and tried the Theme Font & Size Changer. Still, several sites display some (but not all) text and/or graphics either too large or too small. ILX looks fine except that anything I type in the "Add a Post" box is tiny. If I zoom in to make the font larger so I can easily read what I'm typing, everything else becomes huge. Anyone else having this problem, or know a workaround?

sometimes, when a webpage needs a good think before displaying, firefox will disappear and then reappear a split second later. is most odd. (sound is also interrupted, like playback sometimes is during high cpu spikes). this is 22.

Anyone have trouble editing posts in the add a post window? if you spot an error in the middle of a sentence and touch the word to correct it, I get this thing where deleting characters happens in the middle of the sentence but adding characters still happens at the end. or the other way around.

This is firefox with google keyboard on a nexus 4. Chrome has different issues...

watching any streaming video content on firefox is so shitty. choppy as fuck. things play in chrome just fine, my internet connection is pretty stellar (i'm on a university campus), any ideas?

use chrome?

(wasn't there a 3d acceleration option where it'd use your video card to make things faster but it would often not work? ah - http://lifehacker.com/disable-firefoxs-hardware-acceleration-to-fix-slowness-749344037 )

i keep having a thing where moving to a new page will show me the element the mouse is over with a background of the old page, or white. as i move the mouse everything under it will appear. have to scroll to get it looking right.

Do you have a lot of extensions/add-ons installed in FF?

I do not like this new search box.

yeah, it sucks, especially the way it shoves the autocomplete suggestions over your custom search options

You can change the search box function back. I found this on the arstechnica forums.

Go to "about:config"
Find this key: browser.search.showOneOffButtons
Double-click it to change it to "false"
Restart

you're the man, dawg!

OMG so much better.

I have "search as you type" enabled, but when I'm on ILX and I type 's', it goes to SNA instead of searching for 's'. Anyone else experience this or know what's going on?

it's a feature stet added, noted here

CHANGELOG

Current version has a very annoying Network Protocol Error bug that's going to be fixed

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1528317#c13

firefox appears to have broken all add-ons. i'm seeing the web today without adblock and it's just a horrible place.

There's an update you can install to fix the bug. Save the exe file in the link below on disc and run it, that worked for me:

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/candidates/66.0.4-candidates/build3/win64/en-US/Firefox%20Setup%2066.0.4.exe

win64. pah.

i've downloaded an update already this morning, didn't help. there's a new point release. will try that.

that is a lot better. facebook now not just showing me random pictures of things with prices on them. no gizmodo video advert sidebars.

just restart and enable them all again. worked for me yesterday

also don't use adblock, use ublock origin

What I don’t understand is why this happened to my Firefox too when I have it set to not auto-install any updates?

it was some certificate thing that expired or didn't get signed anymore imo

weird that it affected the add-ons when i thought that stuff only affected things like SSL

The add-ons themselves are signed - so if we had an ILXor add-on, it would be signed to show it came from us and not some rando. It was a key certificate in the chain used to check those signatures that expired.

note to self: next time firefox wants to update itself, don't let it.

updated and now ilx and firefpx are missing something and everything looks like the 1980s

adblock is screwing the pooch. disable it and things are back to normal. linux.

disable adblock and install ublock origin

i already have both 8)

adblock apparently has an update, but i can't work out how to install it, so disabled for now.

did firefox on android recently get updated with a bunch of jank? i just want to visit websites thank you

yeah, the laatest version for Android is awful -- they discontinued support for almost all extensions and jettisoned a bunch of basic decades-old features like the tab bar, download manager, back button, and about:config. hopefully they'll accede to the demands of the screeching Firefox fanboys and restore some of that functionality with the next update. in the meantime I've switched to Kiwi, which is pretty decent alternative

I'm normally quite patient with application updates but fucking hell they really ballsed this up. I've mostly adapted to using the new UI but it's still hanging quite regularly.

fuck this garbage browser

starting to think the same

i'm guessing this has to do with android users? i'm having zero issues on any of my machines.

How so? I was hating it recently, lots of crashes, but now I'm having Chrome issues and I think it's just a weird RAM thing or some other app causing issues.

Still a ton of stupid annoying stuff in the Android version. Seems like they rewrote lots of the interface and barely tested it. Just typing into this box on ILX and it starts crunching.

My issues are with the windows version, albeit on an old (5 years!!!) and somewhat flaky pc:

1) the 'firefox is already running' dialog, needed by no other application in history (though chrome is a famous memory hog, maybe it just ignores orphaned processes)
2) this one is weird - slack and gmail and no other sites take an eternity to load, often it will just give up, the loading spinner will stop though the tab is still blank. multiple refreshes needed to get them to load.
3) i can't read messages in slack threads - it opens the sidebar, doesn't load any messages
4) slack brought it down completely yesterday

seems to be some bad firefox/slack confluence going on, i know the idiots at slack focus on chrome (you can't do video calls in firefox).

Slack posted an advisory yesterday, they were having trouble...

i installed the slack app to my desktop but still run slack in Firefox and that seems to have fixed a lot of those issues

will give that a go, ta.

Slack (and gmail, though only about 1/3rd as much as slack ime) is a notorious memory hog. How many workspaces are you using on slack?

only one!

Slack and facebook are the biggest memory hogs. Just closing a tab w/ slack or fb in Firefox instantly drops my overall memory usage w/ 15%, according to my memory cleaner app

Desktop Firefox is going thru a shonky phase at the moment imo

The Android version is currently dogshit, as others have indicated

in Mozilla's slight defense, the Android version now has a back button and a download manager, but the other issues haven't been resolved (including the lack of a tab bar) and the whole thing still feels like a beta. apparently the latest version of Nightly supports add-ons, but I haven't tried it yet and I'm still using Kiwi for the time being even though it's no longer being updated

something i complained about here (back button being disabled when clicking on image urls) is explained here:

https://support.mozilla.org/gl/questions/1254496

instagram and facebook now open in a container in firefox and that ditches all the history / referer details when making the new container. makes sense but i wonder whether i can force it to use a new tab for those links so i still have everything in the original tab.

firefox has been at the crayons again, changing stuff, making it look dumber.

top bar with the tabs in it now looks a lot taller but the favicons and tab names are the same size so you lose vertical space for no real gain.

yeah that spacing ffs. I had to create a lot more bookmark folders because eff having to scroll to see my bookmark lists

it's annoying

had to change that this morning. wordy fix below

about:config <-- in address bar. "accept risk and continue"
browser.compactmode.show <--- set to true. exit about:config. maybe restart firefox.

find 'customize' under 'more tools' in the drop down menu that is an icon that looks like 3 small horizontal lines

set density to compact.

protip-- if you use menu bar and bookmarks toolbar, drag the bookmark toolbar items onto the menu bar from the customize screen

oops! one more important step-- turn off the bookmarks toolbar if you move the bookmark toolbar items up to the menu bar or never use it.

hmm, didn't seem to change anything. Although my Density setting was "Compact (not supported)".

try turning off your bookmarks toolbar

ah but it's the bookmarks toolbar i want the compact to affect. Is that not possible to change then?

i can't confirm it myself because i'm running ESR but apparently setting browser.proton.enabled to false in about:config unfucks things a bit

enjoy it until mozilla inevitably removes it next version

There is also browser.uidensity that should be set to 1 (if it isn't already)

xp, chih, tried it and things got even more compact :)

I think Ste meant the Bookmarks dropdown menu from the menubar was no longer compact. I decided to test disabling all Proton entries in about:config and discovered the one that fixes the issue by resetting to how it was before.

set to false:
browser.proton.contextmenus.enabled

and while were at it we might as well set the entry chihuahuau mentioned to false as well:
browser.proton.enabled

i dunno if this is new but i'm forever closing tabs i don't want to close.

the visible tab is highlighted in a lighter colour than usual, the tab the mouse is over is highlighted using a darker colour than usual. it's easy to glance up, see a highlighted tab and hit middle button to close it without registering it was the wrong kind of highlight.

Update (developer edition, at least) moves the back/forward buttons to the right, reversing them and pointing at each other? Like so:

-> <-

Just updated the non-dev version on my computer and that hasn't happened.

lol that has to be a bug rather than a UX decision. can you right click on the toolbar and choose 'Customize Toolbar' to drag them to the right place?

ah, yes. thanks! change was just completely counterintuitive.

if they just changed from left aligning icons A B C to right aligning icons C B A then that would explain it, keeping the outermost icon outermost.

what even is an ai browser?

https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/mozilla-says-firefox-will-evolve-into-an-ai-browser-and-nobody-is-happy-about-it-ive-never-seen-a-company-so-astoundingly-out-of-touch

i've been using waterfox on my laptop at home and it seems fine, i just have to remember to click on the blue icon rather than the orangey one that i've used for years.

I highly recommend Vivaldi browser:

Vivaldi
https://vivaldi.com

Private
Privacy isn’t just a feature at Vivaldi, it’s a philosophy. No profiling, no data mining, no-nonsense. With built-in ad and tracker blockers, plus end-to-end encryption for synced data.

it won't tell me (easily) if it's even available as a linux download, it just assumes i want the apple version because that's what i'm currently using.

(oh, it uses gtk so that should be fine)

(found it)

trying Vivaldi & I like it! Thanks for the endorsement :-)

Vivaldi is available on Android, Windows and iOS.

been such a long time Firefox loyalist, this is depressing

it really is

“A.I.” browsers: the price of admission is too high
https://vivaldi.com/blog/a-i-browsers-the-price-of-admission-is-too-high/

And this is why Vivaldi takes a stand: we’re keeping browsing human.

Mozilla now says there will be a AI kill switch in early 2026
https://www.techradar.com/computing/firefox-responds-to-ai-backlash-by-promising-a-kill-switch-for-turning-off-controversial-new-features

FYI, the Waterfox fork of Firefox is AI free: https://www.waterfox.com
https://www.waterfox.com/blog/no-ai-here-response-to-mozilla/

ayyyyyy, they got built-in tree-style tabs, nice. will definitely consider.

Couldn't get my head around Vilvadi and the 'built in' ad blocker didn't work.

Will look at waterfox

vivaldi ffs

I gave Vivaldi a go but didn't look into the built-in adblocking yet... ublock origin can be added for that, which is what i use on firefox.