Project Runway Season 3

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The new season kicks off next Wednesday, the 12th of July! I'm so excited! I doubt it'll live up to Season 2, but here's hoping...

Designers and Models:

http://www.justjared.com/pictures/2006/06/projecy_runway_3_designers/z-project-runway-3-02.jpg

Bios:

http://www.bravotv.com/Project_Runway/bios


This cast seems a lot more accomplished than prior casts, which is awesome. My early favorites are:

1. Malan Breton
2. Alison Kelly
3. Kieth Michael
4. Vincent Liberetti
5. Kayne Gillaspie


My hate this season will be directed towards:

Stacey Estrella. Why, you ask? Because she said this:


“If I win, it will help me build a significant brand awareness in my target demographic while also providing seed capital to build a multi-national fashion house and investment firm.”

*rolleyes*


The models are BORING BORING BORING. Except Moon.. she's gorgeous.

So anyway, who else is excited for PR3?

Also, apparently they've changed the sponsor from Banana Republic to Macy's. Thoughts? Is this an upgrade or a downgrade?

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

Who'll be the token "you're kidding, he's straight?" guy?

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 6 July 2006 00:13 (nineteen years ago)

I think Banana Republic's "look" is kind of boring, so maybe switching the sponsor to Macy's will give the designers more freedom to make interesting looking clothes. Although, it was kind of neat to see what the designers came up with when forced into the Banana Republic mold.

I want Michael Knight to win because his name is Michael Knight.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 6 July 2006 00:38 (nineteen years ago)

macy's was probably willing to give more money & promo than BR.

mts (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 6 July 2006 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

where's daniel franco? i want to see him being awkward and sexually ambiguous!

molly d (mollyd), Thursday, 6 July 2006 02:45 (nineteen years ago)

I stumbled onto season 2 by accident, and it became a guilty pleasure for me. I loved seeing the preasure of trying to be creative under a deadline. I'm not sure I'll watch from the start. Maybe I'll wait for marathon showings later on. I just have a feeling the cast will be all caught up in trying to make names for themselves by acting outrageously. I hope I'm wrong about this. The show is well run, and they do audition for talent, so...

nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Thursday, 6 July 2006 08:40 (nineteen years ago)

where's daniel franco? i want to see him being awkward and sexually ambiguous!


Lol. I'm sure he'll make a guest appearance or something.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 6 July 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

salivating

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 6 July 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

Casting special:

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/scp_v3/viewer/index.php?pid=16685&rn=245724&cl=580428&ch=580397


Keith is so hawt.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

1. Malan Breton
2. Alison Kelly
3. Kieth Michael
4. Vincent Liberetti
5. Kayne Gillaspie

*laughs hysterically*1

1) (I worked on the show)

Jimmy Mod: NOIZE BOARD GRIL COMPARISON ANALYST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

Malan Breton is such an NYC private school kid, amirite?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Alison Kelly has that weird accent! it's not a regional accent, it's the 20something girl trying to instantly become sophisticated accent

Malan is awful.

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

I think the German girl is probably pretty good, and the guy from LA with the hood on all the time..

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

creepy quasi minimalist guy = creepy! who is that? I hope he goes out, fast

dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 02:00 (nineteen years ago)

i am so unbelievably stoked after watching that preview.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 03:42 (nineteen years ago)

I am convinced now that this will be the best season ever. So many of these people have ACTUALLY DONE STUFF.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 03:46 (nineteen years ago)

creepy quasi minimalist guy = creepy! who is that? I hope he goes out, fast


You mean Bradley Baumkirchner? I really, really like him, to be honest. His interview (on the Bravo website) and Bio Video are both hilarious. He strikes me as very "I'm in a experimental noise band based in Williamsburg" though. Maybe it's the beard.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 06:01 (nineteen years ago)

when is this on and why arent i watching it?

sunny successor (katharine), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

it is on tonight! bravo! 10pm EST!

and this malan fellow. my jaw is hitting the floor.

who has this in a bio?

"Inspired by a friend, one of America's foremost couturiers,"

clearly, he is a renaissance man:

"Malan has also been a part of the entertainment industry since an early age, learning his craft from costume mistresses along the way. He has appeared in theatre, film, and television, worked as a professional model and has danced with Paula Abdul and others."

i hope he's the one they ask to leave.

molly d (mollyd), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

wtf, is this only on in the states? bravo here is showing something else tonight. wah.

Kim (Kim), Thursday, 13 July 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

canadian bravo isnt the same as american bravo, it is on canadian bravo, but god knows when

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 13 July 2006 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

This was my first episode ever of PR (watched Top Chef all the way through though) and I have to say I loved it. I think Vincent (Victor?) has the makings of a dark horse for a little while although he clearly doesn't have the skills for the endgame. Judges made the right choice on the winner, but obnoxious LA guy should have gone home, or maybe I just don't like him at all. Still scratching my head over why the redhead's billowing drape of a dress made the winner's circle - she claims to be all about silhouettes - how can you have a silhouette in something that looks like a parachute? We loved Bradley from the preview and the ladies on the couch quickly ran to MySpace to add him, but he was kind of nonexistant in the episode and his comforter garment was kind of conceptually awful - as couchmate Melanie put it, who wants to feel like they're padded? Overall, great show, I'm hooked, lot of characters didn't make an impression but after Top Chef I have confidence they'll quickly come into focus...

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 13 July 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

Bradley's dress was conceptually and visually awful. but yeah, he's cute.

Vincent should have gone! That hat! I totally hate Stacey for some reason so I was okay with her going, but still. I loved how pissed-off Vincent's model looked while he was fitting her. She had a total, "I guess I'll be leaving next week" look on her face.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 13 July 2006 04:42 (nineteen years ago)

I think Vincent and the LA guy were both terrible and the worst overall, but they both have a history of success and talent. Stacey didn't, and her dress was completely boring, so they went with track record and marketability over a pure choice.

Malan Breton is the single best thing to happen to me in months. He's the bastard child of Alan Cumming and Bud Cort.

The architect lady is the baddest, awesomest lady ever. She's Manhattan in a good way.

Oh man why can't I just watch the whole season now.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 13 July 2006 05:31 (nineteen years ago)

when will this come to canada

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 13 July 2006 06:02 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, poly, we have found another level of disagreement, I hate that smug self-satisfied "I'm a hero because I have five kids" architect lady. Eff that, any Manhattanite with five kids deserves a dig-em smack. On the other hand, I didn't hate the jacket thing she made. (My wife, this morning: "It was just a jacket!" My daughter: "Oh, mom, stop hatin'.")

How is it that Michael from the ATL made an entire and completely credible dress out of coffee filters and no one was even like 'nice job' to him? thatsracist.jpg

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 13 July 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

"How is it that Michael from the ATL made an entire and completely credible dress out of coffee filters and no one was even like 'nice job' to him? thatsracist.jpg"

I, too, was stunned by this.
And, I like crazy Vincent. He's so visibly freaking out all the time. He reminds me of many of my best friends. he's like Dave from Top Chef!

aimurchie (aimurchie), Thursday, 13 July 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

creepy quasi minimalist guy didn't make the show, it seems, so no problems. I like Bradley OK, I have the feeling I don't have the same taste at all, but it's just taste.

Kayne is a treat! Angela is interesting too. I really liked Keith's dress and Ule's was my favorite this week. Looks like from the previews Keith will prob be the love-to-hate person who definitely makes it to fashion week but behaves rather badly on the way.. he seems really talented

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 13 July 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

The architect lady is the baddest, awesomest lady ever. She's Manhattan in a good way.

I liked her too, but I wonder if she can break out of her style as the season progresses. She's one-note (and it's a good one) but I can't see her as a finalist.

Fsck Washing Ong's Hat (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 13 July 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, poly, we have found another level of disagreement, I hate that smug self-satisfied "I'm a hero because I have five kids" architect lady.

I agree that she's way self-satisfied, but I think she's earned it. She has this Gloria Swanson-ness about her to which all drag queens strive, but none can achieve. And she's classy, has great taste, and is smart as hell. Fuck, I'd be egotistical. The best was when she said "Ohio! I've always wondered what goes on there." WHO SAYS THAT TO SOMEBODY?

Anyway, I find myself drawn to egotists. I would rather have a beer with the scruffy beard guy or with any of the younger girls, but they're not as good television.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 13 July 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

"How is it that Michael from the ATL made an entire and completely credible dress out of coffee filters and no one was even like 'nice job' to him? thatsracist.jpg"

Wow, that was coffee filters? I had no idea.

I looooove that they roomed him with Malan. LOVE IT.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 13 July 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

That photostory that the blonde from LA did of herself in her clothes was hilariously corny.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 13 July 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yes it was. more lost little girls? how about we just get old, because lost little girls are boring. it reminded me of that rock singer from season 1 with the horrible "nervous breakdown" song where everyone had to figure out how to dress her up like a broken doll and still make it vaguely interesting when it wasn't

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 13 July 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

The best was when she said "Ohio! I've always wondered what goes on there." WHO SAYS THAT TO SOMEBODY?

Lots of people have said similar things to me when I tell them I'm originally from Montana. I hate it when New Yawkers act like any place devoid of a mob must be devoid of excitement. That said, I either LOVE her or HATE her. Can't decide. She's definitely going to be great for lots of entertainingly snobbish comments.

I thought I would like rock-n-roll hooded designer, but I'm pinning my hopes of hate on him (I always find reality shows a lot more fun if I can seethe over someone).

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 13 July 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I got asshat vibes from Keith and Jeffrey. Arrogant.

Super Cub (Debito), Thursday, 13 July 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

I kind of worked myself into an orgy of hatred of Jeffrey during the episode. For one thing, it at first seemed like he might not ever take off his hood. Also, his arrogance way out of proportion to the quality of his portfolio/first outfit. Keith also seems like a dick, but at least his dress was beautiful.

I looooove that they roomed him with Malan. LOVE IT.

ha, did you catch how Malan looked totally terrified during his initial conversation with Michael?

I just read Tim's Take, and he compliments Michael's coffee filter dress. He was surprised it didn't make the top three.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 13 July 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

I so thought Michael's dress would win. Folgers should commission him to make a filter line for their wacky ad campaign.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 13 July 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Hoodie-boy should seriously reconsider those tattoos. Nothing says "please make me look like a penis!" more than tragic neck tattoos and tiny head.

Did architect lady have a big portrait of herself in her apartment?

The burning question for me is who does Tim Gunn ask to leave? I bet it's penis-head.

molly d (mollyd), Thursday, 13 July 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

i'm glad keith ignored tim gunn's request to put more shit on his sheet-dress, and WON

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 13 July 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

WHICH OF YOU FAB MOTHERFUCKERS IS TAPING THIS SHIT FOR ME

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 13 July 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

keith's dress was great, but i mean all he did was take bedsheets which is just like a big ole piece of fabric anyway. did he even use anything else?

btw, robert is kinda sexy.

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 13 July 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

I think Robert's going to be a contender. His dress last night was adorable.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 13 July 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

(phil, Keith also used red buttons from a duvet cover, I think. the buttons were super-cute.)

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 13 July 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

Michael's dress reminded me a lot of Chloe's ice skating costume from season 2, only not blue.

Best quote: "Where are you from?" "Oh...everywhere." (THEY MUST NOT LEARN THE SECRET OF MY FAKE ACCENT!)

Maria (Maria), Thursday, 13 July 2006 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently re-runs are being aired on ratings-desparate NBC on Monday? (so says TV Guide channel five minutes ago)

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 13 July 2006 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

Anthony, email me if you really want a tape. The address below is correct, but with real letters.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Friday, 14 July 2006 04:30 (nineteen years ago)

keith's dress was great, but i mean all he did was take bedsheets which is just like a big ole piece of fabric anyway. did he even use anything else?

IMO, that's why he deserved to win - he didn't trip over himself trying to show how clever he could be using unlikely materials, he made the best possible dress given the circumstances. Which means, grab everything in the hotel room that's most like fabric and use it like fabric to make a quality garment. It was cute, and the buttons were great.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 14 July 2006 05:22 (nineteen years ago)

michael's coffee filter dress was the fuckin bizness

my money's on him consistently knocking out tim gunn and mike kors finding some way to keep him from winning any challenges

5 kids manhattan mom's house looked like a fuckin magazine shoot that had a mob of kids accidentally broke into.

and yes there was at least one GIANT portrait of her and possibly more??

metonymus prime (rgeary), Friday, 14 July 2006 05:54 (nineteen years ago)

kayne (west) seems like the dude who will hang around at #4 or 5 every time until he leaves his scissors in someone's back to snuggle into the top three

metonymus prime (rgeary), Friday, 14 July 2006 05:55 (nineteen years ago)

haha aimurchie otm on the top chef dave / vincent the crazy hat man connection. it's like a required archetype for these shows. dave totally had mad talent, if he could just convince himself to stop fucking up once in a while he'd have walked away with the thing

metonymus prime (rgeary), Friday, 14 July 2006 05:59 (nineteen years ago)

potential important spoiler:

http://defamer.com/hollywood/reality-tv/project-runway-3-contestant-may-have-cheated-his-way-into-heidi-klums-heart-187875.php

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

WILL NOT READ

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

I admire your willpower. I ain't got none.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Finally got to watch the first episode last night; I think they made the right choice giving the heave-ho to the dot-com ditz. She couldn't even work the sewing machine -- watching that over several episodes would have become old real fast.

I loved Michael's coffee filter dress and the opulent absurdity of Laura's fur-trimmed jacket. Keith's bedsheet dress was very well made, but extremely "safe" -- his style seems pretty undefined so far, which makes sense since he's a menswear designer.

Jeffrey got the dressing down he deserved, I thought, though I'd like to see him try a more polished look instead of that tired deconstructed look. I wanted Vincent gone, too, but my guess is that they'll keep him on for his neurotic hijinx -- I'm really not surprised he left the fashion industry during his previous stint.

Also, Lost-Little-Blond-Girl relies on her own cuteness too much; she doesn't move her facial muscles when she speaks in a way that creeps me out.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

They should make people take a sewing machine test before they make the show so we don't have to see the same tired plot over again.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

They should make people take a sewing machine test before they make the show so we don't have to see the same tired plot over again.

They've got to have obvious people to whack in the first rounds.

Super Cub (Debito), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't seen the episode yet, but I did just look at the pics of each finished garmet (spoilers don't ruin this show for me, at least not in the early stages) and... what's up with the flower-pot-on-her-head look? Yikes.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

Are we not men?

Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm loving polyphonic's spoiler. Has me grinning mischeviously.

Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm listening to Tim Gunn's podcast on Episode 1! I love that man.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Is it safe to call this show "camp"?

c('°c) (Leee), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

I am not reading the spoiler, but can anyone tell me what was up with the promos? They were all "drama in the first week" and "this has never happened before" and implying that someone sabotaged someone else's work and was kicked off. And then it was just a normal episode.

i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

yes! i thought that too! i was mildly disappointed that no one violently got the boot after all the promos alluded to such events. i thought shit was going down on the first episode.

i read the spoiler. it cleared things up.

molly d (mollyd), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

Can I expect this promo to be explained in a later episode?

i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

In his podcast (Oh God, listen to me. PROJECT RUNWAY PODCAST, FFS.) Tim Gunn mentions that in the beginning of the second season, the bobbin casings for the sewing machines were inexplicably missing during the first challenge, and that someone has attempted something of a repeat of that stunt THIS season during the first few challenges. Designer sabotage seems the likely diagnosis, since if the producers had done it they would have included it in the show, right?

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

Interesting. I wonder if that's why poor evicted Stacey had such problems?!

i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

Stacey seemed pretty satisfied with her dress, I doubt that her lack of time was responsible for her demise.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

finally got around to seeing this. so Keith is totally a put-on then? LOL at Vincent. LOL at Malan. is that like Manimal? lots of cuties, but only Stacey looks too much like myerstwhilelonggame. maybe she will be back later? who will i root for in the meantime? Robert's dress was nice, but I don't especially like him. Kate Walsh? Babyface? Malan?! Surfergirl? Farmgirl? Alex in NYC??!!! maybe Page McConnell.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 04:34 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno if I like Uli, but I think I like her gold

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

1. Malan
2. Uli
3. Robert
4. Michael
5. Stacey
6. Laura
7. Keith
8. Jeffrey
9. Bonnie
10. Bradley
11. Vincent
12. Katherine
13. Kayne
14. Allison
15. Angela

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry, Malan is far too annoying to live. He and Vincent and penishead rockstar were clearly chosen to provide spice to the series.

i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 06:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Malan is ridiculous, and not in a good way. I hope, when he gets the boot (you know, the materials are not precious enough for him), he pitches an enormous hissy fit. That would be quality television right there.

molly d (mollyd), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like Malan's whole deal has to be an act. He's such a caricature.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

How old is he really? He mentioned Botox and laughed maniacally. He can't be a decade younger than me, he just can't be.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

Update on the previous spoiler:

http://bloggingprojectrunway.blogspot.com/2006/07/note-from-keith-michael.html

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

More info on spoiler (and perhaps we will find out something juicy this evening):

http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20060719/en_tv_eo/19537

molly d (mollyd), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm listening to Tim Gunn's podcast on Episode 1! I love that man.

-- elmo argonaut (elmo.oxyge...), July 18th, 2006. (allocryptic) (later) (link)

he is kinda tasty, hmm!?

i have to survive on podcasts because i don't have cable and can't watch the actual show.

tehresa needs more out of this relationship than she's willing to put in (tehres, Wednesday, 19 July 2006 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot believe I have been sitting around waiting for this...

i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 20 July 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

SHOCK!

i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 20 July 2006 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

That was unbelievable bullshit.

Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

Vincent made a laughable, ill-fitting dress, pushed his "teammate" to the brink of stabbing him with scissors, and then Malan loses with a dress that any contestant on a previous season would have won with. I'm angry about this.

Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

BOO. Malan's vision was great. Fuck a Miss USA. otherwise, instincts mostly confirmed. favorites - Laura/Michael and Uli/Bonnie. like Robert and Vincent's taste more than their personas. like Bradley more than his work. who to root for now? come back Stacey!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

yes, you have responded in the producer-intended manner

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

oh, and I like Alison a little more than before and Jeffrey a good bit less

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

they've already kicked off my two favorites. maybe I should quit now in protest?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:08 (nineteen years ago)

yes, you have responded in the producer-intended manner

Maybe so, but that was still a pretty ill-fitting dress. With Always wings for extra protection.

Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:10 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see what Michael can really *do*. I think the coffee filters were just a taste, and there was obviously nothing of him in this week's dress.

Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:16 (nineteen years ago)

well, maybe I like Chris Barron's work more than I'm admitting.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, Michael and Laura are the ones I'm most anticipating, and maybe Bonnie too. Uli might be too much a one-note?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

That was a fairly annoying example of editing. The whole episode was set up to be Vincent vs. Angela, and then they boot poor Malan after he shows good sportsmanship. There was no clue whatsoever that Vincent's dress was any good, which the judges actually seemed to think. And I can't help but think that Malan may actually have been one of the more interesting designers (albeit perhaps annoying).

i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

Angela was my favorite model too. maybe Malan will come back later?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:37 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, I mean

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 02:39 (nineteen years ago)

okay, that was bullshit. Vincent needs to go; what the hell? My skin crawls whenever he's onscreen.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 20 July 2006 04:03 (nineteen years ago)

I love Milan, but his dress was not appropriate for the challenge. Take away those shoulder thingies, and Vincent's dress was pretty sharp.

nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Thursday, 20 July 2006 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

Malan's dress was ugly and weird, but it's a crime that the producers of Project Runway are letting Vincent remain on the show and not, like, getting him some help or something. Dude is not right.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 20 July 2006 04:20 (nineteen years ago)

Vincent's dress was finished, and the back and front was decent. The color was wrong, the wings sucked, the boobs looked terrible, and he was a complete prick.

I agree with Keith that Angela used Vincent's horrible attitude as an excuse to do nothing, but there's no conceivable way that she was more to blame for anything than Vincent, who was caustic to her. I think when the judges see the episode, they will think very differently about their choice of Vincent over Angela.

Malan's top was a nice idea poorly executed. The top looked leaden, and didn't flatter his or anyone else's model. He didn't listen to Bonnie or Tim, who both said as much. The bottom was too short and was unfinished. However, with some editing, it would have been a vastly superior dress to Vincent's, and he treated his teammate and his fellow castmembers with all due respect.

This reminds me of last season when Daniel Franco went home instead of Santino, but unlike that incident, in this case the more interesting designer went home.

I thought Uli's dress was much nicer than Kayne's.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 July 2006 05:14 (nineteen years ago)

Lame! Malan's dress was ugly but not as ugly as Angela's irritating bossiness. Also, malan turned out to be kind of a nice guy, which I was totally not expecting

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 20 July 2006 05:17 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that completely caught me off-guard.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 July 2006 05:27 (nineteen years ago)

i don't understand how people are surprised at Malan being nice

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 08:08 (nineteen years ago)

haha, 2.5 days ago i was all '3rd season - too soon' and 'tim gunn needs some new catchphrases' and now that i've actually seen the thing here i am all obsessive-like

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 08:11 (nineteen years ago)

While Kayne & Robert's dress wasn't my taste, I thought it was the only dress on the runway that was really occasion-appropriate, so I'm glad they won this challenge. I continue to be impressed by Laura & Michael; they're the ones to watch as far as I'm concerned.

Also, Keith is a fucking arrogant creep.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

ok, im hooked. i watched road to the runway and ep 1 and 2 last night. i loved that white minidress with the jewels and red bows. sweet. who designed that again?

malans dress from last nights ep was ok. it looked like he was thinking 'runway' rather than 'pageant'.

i think angela or malan's assistant should have gone. malan is what I call a 'production casualty' ie keeping the crazy hated people = guaranteed drama.

favorite moment - when miss USA referred to her boobs as 'action'

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

In interviews, Tim and Heidi have both talked about there being a great "villian" this season (perhaps like whatsername was on the Chef show).

I still find it somewhat shocking that Angela made it through. She basically decided that she wasn't going to do anything as soon as the challenge was announced - looked to attach herself to the winner (and managed to annoy everyone else in the process; note how she was the last one picked), didn't even try to come up with her own design. And then only tried to get Vincent to change what he was doing.

But really she and annoying (but good, IMO) Keith are the only ones who've shown something negative.

Malan was pretty freaky, I think. Lots more boring people who could've gone.

i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe there are people defending Angela. She was picked last for a reason, people, and basically spent the entire episode proving why everyone else seems to think she's a bitchy hack at this early a point in the competition. What the hell? Vincent ain't exactly a bed of roses but come the fuck on, you buncha save-a-hos. Though I guess keeping around a horrible bitch no one wants to be around ups the drama x10. (xpost!)

I felt really bad for Malan, but they were correct in pointing out that the dress wasn't executed well and that it wasn't really appropriate for the competition. I just don't think he should've been booted over that.

I really liked Laura's dress but she picked a color that Miss USA explicitly told them not to pick--what was that about?

I liked Uli's dress a lot better than Kayne's but Kayne's was more pageanty.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone else tear up a little at Malan's post-dump interview? I WOULD BE YOUR FRIEND MALAN BUT YOU WOULDN'T LIKE ME, I'D ALWAYS BE TRYING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT LOS LOBOS AND THE BREWERS' MIDDLE RELIEVERS AND JULIO CORTAZAR. Still though.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

sunny, I think that was Robert's dress from the first episode.

My top 5 right now:
Michael
Laura
Robert
Uli
Kayne

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone think though that Kayne's dress was kind of ill-fitting? On top. It was kind of odd, I'm not sure if it was just too big for that model and they didn't pin it back correctly or what.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

yeah but as has been said no one else made a pageant dress at all, so it kind of won by default innit

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

I WOULD BE YOUR FRIEND MALAN BUT YOU WOULDN'T LIKE ME, I'D ALWAYS BE TRYING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT LOS LOBOS AND THE BREWERS' MIDDLE RELIEVERS AND JULIO CORTAZAR.

LOL

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah he was the only one who really made a pageant dress at all! That was kind of odd, I mean it seems like an explicit thing to be told to do: MAKE A DRESS FOR MISS USA.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

This show really makes me want to learn how to use my sewing machine.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

maybe they dont watch pageants? unlike me. here's miss usa's evening gown from the presentation show on tues. i guess she really will wear kayne's dress in the finals show.

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/572/usyv1.jpg

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

umm i dunno why but i was really saddened by malan getting the boot. i thought he was sort of charming in a rowan atkinson kinda way.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

His speech was so heartbreaking.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

i hope when the baddy who cheats gets kicked off they bring him back

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

I know! "The show must go on." SIGH.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

feeling slightly less bad for him now that I found out he is originally from Long Island City but yeah they should still bring him back if they kick a mofo off.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

I think he lives in LIC now, but is originally from "everywhere" (not including New York?)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

well, his accent was obviously totally fake, and I kind of don't believe a word that ever came out of his mouth, but yeah, I stil feel bad for him (Malan).

Angela seems kind of awful, but dudes, Vincent is CRAZY.

Also, I just remembered that Keith touched Miss USA's boobs! what the fuck?

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

you mean he touched her action

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

ha! ew. what was the context in which she referred to her action? I don't remember.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

she was complaining about a dress (malan's, i think) covering up too much chest and said something like 'you cant see any action at all'

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

while waving each hand in a circular motion at the models chest

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

maybe "action" is official pageantspeak for "breasts."

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

It seriously seemed like Keith was trying to seduce Miss USA, which must have been so transparent and irritating to a beauty pageant veteran. When he pulled the creepy-stare "You're GORGEOUS" line, I wanted her to rebut "I know. I'm Miss USA, douchebag."

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

I wanted her to kick him in the nuts! Didn't he also pant about her legs being "glorious"? Ew!

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

"action" is a physical rather than an anatomical term, ppl

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

(not that this would mean that he wasn't strategically trying to seduce her, but isn't Keith gay? because I kind of read it as "I'm gay, so I can feel strange women up with impunity," which kind of annoyed me.)

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

or maybe not, actually, I don't speak Miss USA

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Keith pulled a Mizrahi.

They should have just kicked both Vincent and Angela out, and they should have given Malan the stern talking to about overdesigning and unflattering fits. The dress actually would have been okay if there was less going on near the action, and if the bottom was finished properly.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, pageant dress? Earth tones? How about a key lime dress?

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I had to miss this episode, but it's going to be fun watching the rerun after reading this thread. I love spoilers! I am going to forevermore refer to my ta-tas as my action. So sad to hear Malan is gone. I imagine he'll make some sort of TV reappearance, if not on this show when cheater mc-cheaty cheat gets the boot, then maybe doing bitchy red-carpet commentary for Entertainment Tonight or something.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

malan will end up hosting a show on the style channel.

i hate to agree with vincent but whenever i watch pageants its the green dresses that really impress me. most seems to pick black, white, red or (inexplicably) orange.

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Vera Wang seemed pretty easily impressed by these dresses, to me. I've often thought her stuff was a little overrated...but not her action!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

I loved the color of Vincent's dress, actually, but did the fabric look moth-eaten to anyone else? Also, the sleeves. Also, what was with everyone not listening to Miss USA's instructions on color?

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

She said something to the effect of "one of her boobies looks bigger than the other, that dress is something I'd wear maybe if I had a mastectomy and wanted to remind people what the tumor looked like after being removed" but in a polite way so she just said "can't figure out which way the action is going up top."

I support Malan for being honest about who should go and taking it like a good fruit. Fuck Angela, that bitch can go to hell. Vincent may be bonkers but he's not hateworthy.

Is anybody else already sick of Laura reminding everyone that she's really an architect?

Maria said ta-tas!!! Awesome.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

who's better at fake accentry: malan or ian riese-moraine?

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

wow mandee, at this point bagging on IRM is like necrophilia

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Re: color coice... Laura & Michael's dress wasn't exactly white; it was more of a beige-nude color, but it looked washed out in the runway lighting. It wasn't exactly appropriate to the challenge, but I really liked the clean, athletic fit - great silhouette.

Vincent reminds me of my neurotic high-school drama teacher; self-absorbed, pretty imaginative, but wicked flaky and unable to handle either stress or criticism.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Is anybody else already sick of Laura reminding everyone that she's really an architect?

Yeah, but I love her otherwise.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the fact that she picked Michael right away until she said that she picked him because she thought he'd "stand up to her" or whatever it was that she said. Why, pray tell, would she have thought that?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

I will wager a beer (or a cosmopolitan, your preference) that the accessory they'll be designing around next week will be a fucking iPod.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

What Laura said was something far more along the lines of, "He's very talented but we have two different approaches and I would like to see someone who will challenge my ideas" than what you are implying was said.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

I think Laura said that she thought Michael had a substantially different approach from hers, which was why she thought he'd be a good corrective to her? I didn't fully understand why she thought that either, but I imagine Michael was responsible for the excellent fit of their dress. She seems to design for a boxy silhouette in general (I think maybe she tends to design with her own body in mind), but their dress fit their model perfectly and non-boxily.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

or what Ally said, basically.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Their dress really was stunning, though they should've gone for a different color I think (for this specific competition). It was probably the only other dress that was really remotely "pageanty" too!

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, in a color that Miss USA actually wanted, I think their dress might have seriously challenged Kayne's (I dug Kayne's dress except for the bodice, which seemed like it would bulk up anyone but an extremely skinny model, which can't be what a beauty queen wants.)

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't fully understand why she thought that either

maybe because his week 1 dress was in a style totally different from hers, but still really good?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, I suppose; it's just that almost everyone's week 1 outfit was totally different than hers. but yeah, maybe she has a particularly sharp sense of others' POVs, even after one week. she definitely seems smart.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 20 July 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

i'm just oversensitive on racial issues for reality shows because it looks like they're running all the black contestants off 'so you think you can dance', never mind me

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 20 July 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

plus i still think she's a ho-bag. but not the least talented ho-bag on the show!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 20 July 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'm hoping that the next time she brags about being an architect tim gunn says "bitch you ain't no got damn sir christopher wren"

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 20 July 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

I think the race politics of PR is kind of interesting. viz. last season when Andrae chose not to have his model, who was black, wear a blonde wig during the Barbie challenge, and the judges were upset. when he responded that he didn't want to have his model sporting hair that could not have naturally grown on her head, they all reacted like he was just being a drama queen and making shit up. it seemed like the idea that someone might have a problem with putting a blonde wig on a black woman was totally foreign to them, which is kind of mindboggling considering none of them are idiots (and Nina Garcia is whip-smart.) the show is sometimes a window on the blind spots of the fashion industry.

but I don't see any evidence that Laura was thinking "Michael will argue with me 'cause he's black."

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

Well what's weird about that is they make goddamn black and hispanic and even ASIAN Barbies now. I've seen redheaded Barbies. So she don't even need to be blonde to be boxed up as a Barbie so that's crazy.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

My favorites so far are Michael and Uli basically because they're not assholes.

Oh man, fuck fuck fuck Jeffrey. Does anyone know what his stupid neck says? (I can make out "Detroit," which is so a word that would appear in someone's stupid neck tattoo). I love how he, like, can't deal with the idea of beauty pagaents and gives Miss USA that BS about "I want to show that you're a strong warrior woman," and then later in the episode (re: Angela): "one word: femi-nazi." Whadda feminist! Of course don't interpret this as an endorsement of Angela. She sucks, and I particulary hate her for failing to rep SE Ohio. It was completely unfair that she did nothing the whole episode and Malan was the one who got eliminated (even though his dress suxxored).

emilys. (emilys.), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah, and what was up with the extraneous model elimination at the beginning? It seemed gratutious to just show us an elimation of a character we had never seen before and weren't remotely invested in.

emilys. (emilys.), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

I love hating Jeffrey; he just keeps bringing the dickhead. I'm not totally sure that "feminazi" comment was even about Angela, since that sequence seemed to be edited kind of crazy, but whoever it was about, it was a total non-shocker that Jeffrey would say it.

xpost: yeah, no one gives a shit about model elimination, Project Runway! Also, I'm sad because Heidi no longer says, "Models, this is also a competition for you as well." She's dropped the "also."

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

Heidi is a shitty host, but I loved what she was wearing last night.

emilys. (emilys.), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

As for Jeffery, yeah, I was pretty disgusted with him for pulling vocab from the Rush Limbaugh lexicon. As if he wasn't a complete douche already.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

Jeffrey is like the most intolerable tool in the entire universe.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

(entire universe in this usage means "Bravo Network")

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah and his last name is almost exactly like mine, which is funny as I have a tattooed brother named Jeff

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

I was rooting for Angela the minute that dickhead LA punk said "feminazi"! KROQ in the morning, the Rush Limbaugh show, what's the difference?

But she really should have figured out a better way to defend herself than saying the dress was bad, because it cleary wasn't that bad. not that I liked it, but Malan's was hideous. though in seasons past they'd usually give a pass to the designer with ambitious + interesting idea poorly executed vs. mundane idea half-decently executed. Sad about Malan though, I thought he would be painful to watch a la Daniel Franco but he's just extremely GOTH.

Laura is v thoughtful and talented, I bet she ends up in the top 3. And Ule too.

(Oh how funny, I wrote this post before I scrolled up to read the end of the thread!)

dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 21 July 2006 01:03 (nineteen years ago)

hah, the 'blogging project runway' blog has a transcript of Tim Gunn's podcast, it's a treat:

"This is when the producers pulled me out. They said, 'Your ire against Vincent is so strong and so profound and so evident to all the other designers, this isn’t good. We can’t have the designers lose confidence in you. And through this unbridled support for Angela and for Angela, poor Angela—' And again, I upon reflection, she was definitely part of the problem. She wasn’t the poor victim I was making her out to be. I was going to have to work with Vincent by hook or by crook anyways... and I have to say, Zulema he is not... I will take Vincent over Zulema any day!"

dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 21 July 2006 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think keeping Angela on was necessarily a drama promoting production decision. She wasn't dramatic in a fun flamboyant crazy way like Santino, just kind of uncreative and crabby (not that Vincent was so great either). It's hard to tell who should've been eliminated on artistic merits - Malan's dress was awful, but it's not like she had anything to show for herself. (And i felt SO bad for him at the end when he talked about having no friends! Even if it's just melodrama, I'm sure he meant it at the time. I hope he gets lots of sad goth girl fan mail saying "OMG ME TOO!")

Maria (Maria), Friday, 21 July 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

She wasn't dramatic in a fun flamboyant crazy way like Santino

See, I saw this potential in Malan. And I didn't hate his dress, either.I thought it was -- literally -- interesting.

Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Friday, 21 July 2006 04:30 (nineteen years ago)

I would have liked Malan's dress in a different context. Once Tim called it a log I couldn't help but think of it that way. It definitely was "earth-toned" (like dirt). I could imagine it looking cool with some kind of color accent - a flower or fern.

Kayne dodged a bullet not picking Angela for the challenge. I wonder what Angela would have come up with if she had done ANYTHING for this challenge. Gloves, at least.

I keep being fascinated by the architect's bony chest. I like her, I've decided.

OMG, Keith's come-hither stare when he pitched Miss USA (or more like come-thither)...

Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 21 July 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

Empire waist + gloves = wtf.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

I could have sworn she had said "umpire waist." Nice going, Ohio.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

I felt terrible for Malan, too. His mother tore up his designs! And then Heidi Klum tore out his heart! Oh, it was wretched. I don't know that I would want to spend a lot of time with him face to face, but I sure wish him well.

The problem with his dress wasn't so much that it was fug (although it kind of was), but that it was not remotely suited for a pageant. He failed at that whole "designing for your client" thing, which I remember from all the lectures Santino got last year is pretty important to the judges/producers/message board posters. I totally thought Kayne's was the best because it looked like a Barbie dress, and that's what pageant ladies wear.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Kayne won because he condescended to the client

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

She probably did consider the fact that he is in the pageant business already and that this win will make his career. Winning this particular challenge was more valuable to him than to anyone else.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

He may have condescended (and xpost, she may have considered his pageant love), but I still think his dress was the most pageant-appropriate of them all. I, personally, wouldn't bury my dog in that dress (and I agree w/ someone above who said it kind of fit funny in the chest), but I am not a pageant person. Or fan. As a feminazi, I'm kind of disgusted by beauty pageants.

I read the posts on here about that show before I saw the show and I even knew Keith's creepiness was coming and he STILL made my skin crawl when he leaned in to tell Ms. USA about her gorgeous legs. Now THAT is condescending to the client.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think Kayne 'condescended' to the client at all, especially as he deliberately chose a fabric outside the spectrum of the colors she requested.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

I could have sworn she had said "umpire waist."

She totally did, ha! that was one of my favorite parts.

I don't think anything about Kayne's manner in this episode was condescending. He seemed entirely genuine. I don't think he's going to be in the final three, but I totally love him.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

She was trying to pronounce "empire" in French but she said it completely wrong.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't say Kayne's manner was condescnding; far from it. I think his and Robert's design condescended to, ok not just (or even at all) the client, but the milieu. Malan was having none of that.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

I understand if you would have liked to see something more couture than Kayne's dress, gabbneb -- but the pageant world *is* Kayne's milieu. How could he condescend?

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

If you've ever actually seen a pageant, that dress is actually still fairly unusual and fashiony for a pageant dress. Doing something remotely similar to what the task at hand is /= condescending. I think it is unfortunate that Malan got kicked off because I don't think he deserved it (yes, the idea failed completely but it was an interesting concept and he should've gotten another chance on the show IMO), but I don't see what Malan's failure at the task given has to do with Kayne in the least.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure I know what "more couture" would mean, so I'm not sure it's what I wanted. Partly it's aesthetic - I'm more into the kind of thing Laura and Michael did. But Ally probably gets to the issue - I think I definitely wanted more "unusual" (and quite possible more "fashiony," though again I'm not sure what that means). And yes, I admit that it was unusual and fashiony (I think), but at least two things one or both of them said (which is where I got condescending from) suggested that they held themselves back from going further in the interests of the client. And yes that was the point (and I admit that she might have wanted to go further too if it weren't against her ultimate interest). But going further would have better served my - the viewer's - interest. So maybe what I really have a problem with was the challenge itself - it ultimately sought to please an audience for a different tv show.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

theyre about to show evening gowns on miss universe. NBC right now!

sunny successor (katharine), Monday, 24 July 2006 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

woah. miss boliva's dress looks just like the coffee filter dress from ep 1

sunny successor (katharine), Monday, 24 July 2006 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

Vincent's "it was the nightmare of my life" line made me howl with laughter. Poor guy. I feel he did a lot of drugs during his heady days as an 80s fashion designer and we're left to see the (humorous and dramatic) results. I kind of love him. I mean, anyone who actually thinks that hat from the first episode was a good idea and makes such over-the-top statements has immediately won me over due to such ridiculous behavior.

And Malan, well, I have to say, I felt bad for him big time during his farewell speech. When he started saying how he had no friends growing up. Sad!

Angela = awful

molly d (mollyd), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone else really hate Miss USA? God, horrible.

c('°c) (Leee), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I kinda loved Miss USA, at least on PR. (Didn't watch Miss Uni.) My housemate Nikki, who is predisposed to hate people like Miss USA, admitted that not only did she like Miss USA, but she also wanted to bone her. I sadly agreed.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying to come up with a reason for why I hated her that doesn't have to do with her accent. Best I can come up with was that she liked best the contestants I liked least.

c('°c) (Leee), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

She certainly had bad taste, there's no denying that.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

While I really don't think Malan should have been out last episode, I checked around and found his website. Let me just say that while Malan may have been an interesting personality for the show, the fashion collections on his website are not very impressive at all; his imagination simply outstrips his execution.

For example, I cannot begin to express how awful this dress is:

http://www.malanbreton.com/images/IMG_1743.jpg

Is a dusty pink herringbone tweed suitable for an evening gown? No. Also, the explosion of pink ostrich feathers coming out the ass? No, Malan, sweetie. Just... no.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, that is truly awful website design too.

Jena (JenaP), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Gross! That pink is awful! It looks like she's dragging a mutilated muppet behind her. And with the dress that got him the boot: what female wants to wear a dress that intentionally makes her breasts different sizes?

Oh, Malan. Stick to your short films and contemporary jazz standards (in the bio section).

http://www.malanbreton.com/images/IMG_1758.jpg

molly d (mollyd), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

damn you, malan and your inappropriately large photos!

molly d (mollyd), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure why you picked something completely awesome to prove your point with, molly!

ok so several of those (ok most) needed work but is anyone else more confused by the claim that you can hear him doing voice over work on ESPN?

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

B-b-but he wrapped a baby in satin!

http://www.malanbreton.com/images/IMG_1813.jpg

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

That is actually pretty awesome too.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

mary janes do not go with satin wrap dresses. it's just tacky.

molly d (mollyd), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

www.myspace.com/malanbreton

He loves Olivia Newton John. Somehow, the universe just made sense.

molly d (mollyd), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

check out this Julianne-Moore-a-like with a ostrich stuffed up her snatch:

http://www.malanbreton.com/images/IMG_1735.jpg

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Er, no?

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

is anyone else more confused by the claim that you can hear him doing voice over work on ESPN?

yes!

whatever you do, don't read his blog.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

oh dear, who did his web site? did he do it himself? get some image editing software plz. nobody wants to wait for 1 meg images to load

dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

hmm, I just spent 45 minutes bouncing from one PR designer's blog to another. Very dangerous addiction.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

I have a hunch that the "fashion accessory" that the designers have to use as inspiration in the upcoming episode will be those little pocket-pooches... like Paris Hilton's dog Tinkerbelle.`

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

i hope not.

Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

OK if the show starts referring to dogs or other living creatures as "fashion accessories" I might not be able to continue watching it.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHA ^
NAILED IT

Also WAY TO GO NOIZE NECK TOTALLY PICKED THE CORGI

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 27 July 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

ugh, angela

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 27 July 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

"we question your style level"

emilys. (emilys.), Thursday, 27 July 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

also: michael's dress was awesome!

emilys. (emilys.), Thursday, 27 July 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

Aw, I forgot to watch this! At least Bravo reruns it a million times a week so I can catch it later.

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Thursday, 27 July 2006 02:26 (nineteen years ago)

"I wanted to create clothing and light and photography that drew
from the sea and its creatures and how underwater the light reflects
on their beautiful scales and the colours, amazing."- Malan

emilys. (emilys.), Thursday, 27 July 2006 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

I actually think that mink/bustier thing is pretty awesome, btw---although I'm not seeing how it draws from the sea and its creatures

emilys. (emilys.), Thursday, 27 July 2006 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

I like Angela! if she would just stop putting combat boots with everything. it's like she thinks the best way to look hip and thin and chic is to wear big clunky boots with a tiny skirt, but it's not. she should go to paris and work for castelbajac

SRSLY I'm much more interested in weird poufy shiny skirts with rosettes created for a crazy modern Lucy Snowe than I am EVER interested in yet another outfit made for yet another rich heiress, an art gallery owner, a socialite, or a fashionista in Japan.

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 27 July 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

I thought they were all pretty good, but I thought Allison or Robert or Michael should have won... Angela's was hideous

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 27 July 2006 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Bradley's the best. the colors were great.

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 27 July 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

Laura may have established herself as my favorite personality with her no-dogs-allowed and native-new-yorker, but her dress made me question her taste level. so who's my favorite? Vera Wang isn't an option? none of them are totally my style, so maybe Bradley because he's interesting. but on second thought, Uli isn't far off, and at least she can play her note in different tone colors. Michael's up there but just too flat for my taste. I'm starting to appreciate Robert's style more, but it still feels a bit rote to me. I made a bigger style leap with Allison, who's definitely too cutesy for my taste - the anti-Laura - but I don't have to marry her or anything, and this was one was relatively tasteful. Jeffrey remains interesting, but is still in the doghouse (er), while Bonnie gets a bye because i didn't get to see much of her dress.

1. Uli
2. Bradley
3. Michael
4. Robert
5. Laura
6. Bonnie
7. Allison
8. Jeffrey

I hate to go with the crowd, but Angela is Awful.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 27 July 2006 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

it's like she thinks the best way to look hip and thin and chic is to wear big clunky boots with a tiny skirt, but it's not.

I seriously think she should have been eliminated from the competition just because she keeps wearing this sort of outfit and thinks it looks hip. It's like she was frozen in time in 1989.

GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Thursday, 27 July 2006 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

I was convinced after episode 2 that Angela had been spared only because the producers wanted her to fail spectacularly, on her own, with her dress. Then she produces the second-worst dress of the episode (the worst being Bradley's - we love you, but WHAT a bullet dodge!) but Katherine gets the boot? Granted, K's dress was uninspired, but good for her for not giving in to the hoodie. She was trying to stretch out on this show and not just play to her sportswear background. She seemed nice and I hope this show opens some doors for her.

Meanwhile....why does Laura continue to slide by uncriticized? Her approach this time was painfully literal; I'm sorry, the way to coordinate with a dog is not to make yourself furry. It's CERTAINLY not to make the dog more furry. Weak and unappealing. Uli's designs continue to not do much for me but I think her technique is impeccable and I understand why the judges keep going for her. Alison's outfit was the best IMO, but I guess I can see why they went with Uli. Meanwhile, Michael continues to be robbed and Robert has descended completely beneath the radar (although it looks like he's involved in next week's drama...? No spoilerz plz!!!!!!!)... and Vincent's airtime drops dramatically after his spike last episode, while Angela remains on the chopping block.

I just can't muster any feelings either way about Keith. His work is generally good, certainly the bratty vibes come through loud and clear, but I just can't be bothered to hate the guy. I need more than him being stubborn about his self-righteous conviction that dressing up dogs is beneath him; after all, nearly all of the Top Chef final four spent the first half of the series kvetching about the concepts of the challenges being insulting and demeaning!

I'm intrigued by the idea upthread that Malan will return to replace someone who leaves mid-episode. That happened on Top Chef, after a fashion, so there's a precedent of sorts.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 27 July 2006 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Laura's outfit was boring, but her dog looked great. Her seeming hatred of dogs bothered me a lot, but I LOVE that she and Michael are best buds. LOVE IT.

I really liked Katherine's outfit and was bummed that she went home.

I thought Bradley's outfit was AWFUL, and was mindblown that he wasn't in the bottom three. I'm glad he's still around, though. And then when Katherine went home instead of Angela? I barfed in my mouth a bit.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 27 July 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)

by the idea upthread that Malan will return

I would think Katherine would return, since she was the last to be eliminated. That's what happened on Top Chef.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 27 July 2006 05:13 (nineteen years ago)

D'oh! Yes, of course you're right. I think I got too fixed on Malan's tearful goodbye and the weird decision to give him sympathetic closure - in this context it reminded me very much of one of the Survivors who got voted off and then was returned to the game in a horrible "Tribe of Outcasts" twist. Meanwhile, Katherine's sendoff, while sad to many of us viewers, was a pretty clean, ordinary exit - so circumstances now seem to suggest strongly against a returning contestant.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 27 July 2006 05:58 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe, but there was no hint that the yoga chick was coming back on Top Chef either.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 27 July 2006 06:22 (nineteen years ago)

Were they fucking with Bradly? They didn't say anything negative??? I bet they did that, so they can kick him off next week for breaking some rules.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 27 July 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

Once Bradly's outfit was finished, I didn't think it was that bad, actually. Way to build drama, Bravo! And plus, I like Bradly, even with his procrastinator-hippy thing going on.

Angela was bonkers and terrible yet again.

What about Vincent's dress? Oh Vincent! I love how his outfits look as crazy as he actually is. That maniacal laughing at the photos? Well, he's cuckoo, but endearing.

molly d (mollyd), Thursday, 27 July 2006 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

They booted Katherine off because of construction issues, but told Bradley that they would shoot his weird, randomly poofy, half-finished looking shirt in Elle? Seriously. They had to be fucking with him. The colors were okay, but it looked exactly like what it was: something he did in about ten minutes right before the runway part. Also, I swear there was dog hair on the skirt.

I honestly liked Uli's dress, a lot. Laura hates dogs so I hope she fails. The dude with the tattoos on his neck looks like a penis, and he picked the most penis-shaped dog, which was indeed pretty cool, even though the fact that he looks like a giant, talking penis makes me furious whenever he comes on screen.

The real question for me is when will handsome, talented, excellently named Michael Knight get some gd screen time??? I've really liked everything he's done, immensely, but he's never in the top three or whatever. It's making me sad! I want to here him talk about his garments.

I still can't believe that Bradley's dress was better than Michael's.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 27 July 2006 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and as trashy as it was, I would have respected Angela's design a lot more if she hadn't basically made the same skirt she was actually wearing herself. Yeesh, lady. Don't be quite so obvious next time.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 27 July 2006 11:33 (nineteen years ago)

NOIZE NECK

hahahaha

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 27 July 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

when will michael get some fucking screen time?

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Thursday, 27 July 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

When America stops sucking, that's when.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 27 July 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

From Tim's Take, about Bradley: The top was a construction disaster. It looked as though he had sewn it with his feet. And the fraying at every seam and hem was horrifying.

But... Nina Garcia would let them shoot it for Elle? I DUNNOT BELIEVE IT.

This was pretty funny, too: Bradley’s dog, Stanley, was my personal favorite, because he was so emotional and needy -- you just wanted to give him a big, soothing hug. Frankly, I felt similarly about Bradley...

I wish Tim Gunn were my dad. *sigh*

My theory about Michael is that he's going to end up one of the finalists, top three maybe, so since he'll get a lot of screen time later, they are playing him down now. He's too damn good, and some of these other people are just too damn sloppy to go early on in the game.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 27 July 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

the top 3 are going to be Uli, hopefully Michael, and Vincent. Angela's outfit was horrifyingly outdated nonsense, I mean maybe 2 years ago that would've seemed interesting but that revival is kind of over, sweetie, move on. I also hated noize neck's dress--really impeccably made, pretty color, WTF ARE YOU DOING TO THE NECKLINE? Q: ARE WE NOT MODELS? A: WE ARE CLOWNS.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 27 July 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

im not impressed by laura at all. she has the same design concept i had when i was 19 and fucking around with clothes: start with something that fits well and then add fur. big whoop.
what i am impressed by is her ability to maintain such an uppity attitude after churning out 5 kids.

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 27 July 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

I am impressed by her ability to walk around in the sunlight, as I had always thought that that was anathema to her kind. I learn something new every day!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 27 July 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

ally I think you got noize neck confused with Keith "and I'll form the asshole" my number one candidate for CHEATER DQ.

I love that bradley threw together some bullshit at the last minute and ended up in the top 3. a man after my own heart.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 27 July 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

I ADORED the outfit Robert made; classic, demure, chic.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 27 July 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah, it's Keith I hated, not noize neck.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 27 July 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

I think we can all agree the best thing to happen on this show so far is when the corgi (Flex) apparently decided he had enough of an itchy seam and took a dive on the way out.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 27 July 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

That was pretty excellent. Vincent's dog trying to get that stupid hat off was pretty good, too.

I think next week they should have to dress ferrets.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 27 July 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

Keith is such a petulant twat. Beyond that, can he make anything other than a halter dress for every challenge?

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 27 July 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

the top 3 are going to be Uli, hopefully Michael, and Vincent.

i agree with the first two, but why vincent?

http://bravomtdb.console.net/_mt/timstake/_blogImages/2006/07/timstake_vincent_220x338.jpg

i was surprised his wasn't one of the worst this time.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 27 July 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

Vincent because of a spoiler I read online that involves either Vincent making it, or the really unlikely circumstance of him getting kicked out and someone else ditching their model in favor of Jia. Not because of Vincent's talent level or anything like that (though I find his "wacky hat" thing to be kind of endearing, if extremely ill advised).

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 27 July 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

I think the possibility of a model switcheroo is way more likely than Vincent making it to the top three. Or maybe that's just wishful thinking. I just don't think he's that good, especially compared to the other designers.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 27 July 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Oh I totally agree and him making it would mean someone far more talented not making it but OTOH keeping a wacky guy around is good for ratings, and he's wacky in a way that isn't as instantly hateable as some of the other candidates.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 27 July 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

I might like him if not for the wacky hats and the apparent belief that he's David Lee Roth.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 27 July 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

I hope your information is wrong, Ally, but thanks for passing along the perhaps-spoiler anyway with no warning at all! Next maybe you'll give me a nice papercut and squirt lemon juice into it?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 27 July 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - Yeah I see that; he's wacky but not smarmy. It is a unique brand of wackiness. When he was freaking out about the dog I wasn't sure whether to laugh or stab him.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 27 July 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

i really hope it's a model switch, because i've been rooting for vincent to be kicked off since the first episode. his construction is good and his seams interesting, but his design sense sucks ass.

initially i'd hoped he'd be endearingly wacky, but as time goes on i find him increasingly annoying.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 27 July 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Vincent is a design dinosaur. I really can't see him going any further than a few more rounds unless he ditches the 80's department-store aesthetic.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 27 July 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

I agree that Vincent is a) a wackjob; b) kinda kooky instead of evil; and c) ultimately insufferable despite point b).

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 27 July 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

xpost dude sorry but I didn't think it was a spoiler since the situation has been printed in quite a few newspapers; I didn't get the info by reading some creepy obsessive blog, I got it from one of the NYC broadsheets! Apologies anyway.

It seems kind of unlikely to have a model switch though, no? Why would someone dump their anonymous personality-free model they've been working with in favor of another's?

His design aesthetic is weird. Most of what I've seen so far would be a good outfit if not for his weird 80s-club/Logan's Run thing he seems to substitute for actually thinking about the pieces and the task given.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 27 July 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

ok I keep trying to post this but it keeps swallowing me into poxy fule. Sorry about the spoiler--I got it from several different news sites I happened to be reading (like actual newspapers) so I figured it was common knowledge and not a spoiler at this point.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 27 July 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

haha ally you read big city newspapers so of course you're in the loop, i read a liberal wisconsin daily with a sub-20,000 circulation, we're lucky if they print the tv listings at all (just a big empty space that says KILL YOUR TELEVISION) (okay that's a lie)

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 27 July 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

my prediction for final 3:
Michael, Robert, Uli.

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 27 July 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

That's solid. Robert's outfit from last night's challenge was pretty adorable.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 27 July 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

this season's getting on my nerves pretty fast, namely because angela makes my skin crawl and why is she STILL IN THE RUNNING jesus. i am, however, looking forward to the unceremonious kicking-off of you-know-who-but-in-case-you-don't-i-won't-spoil-it next week with total schadenfreude

joseph (joseph), Thursday, 27 July 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha sorry haikunym. I could be wrong about which designer is attached to the model in question by that point in the season, as pointed out.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 27 July 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, some people are saying that it isn't you-know-who, but in fact it is

*SPOILERS*


Captain Crazy Hat


*spoilers*

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 27 July 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

I want to know who gets unceremoniously kicked off next week, just in case it's not the obvious person (whom I'm guess is who-know-who), if someone would email me... I hate surprises.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 27 July 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

Dear BPR,

I recently got a call from H.A. Arnarson, who has been nominated for an Emmy for his editing on "survivior"....he will be up against the editor of "project runway." INSANE ....! i'll be doing a dress for his girl, Dana Del George, she's quite a beauty- guess this reality thing follows you around..ha.

Now the rest of the story...

"Looks like i didn't give angela enough stuff to do"

Well....

The editing didn't show angela ruining the lining.
She didn't know how to match up notches.
She didn't know that interfacing goes on the wrong side of the garment.

GOOD WORK..!
oh well ....had to recut and sew it myself--- FRUSTRATING....?

Yes, of course the viewers could see my frustration - just not why....

She says her designs are mistaken for Yves St. Laurent's.
Well, Yves St. Laurent knows where the interfacing goes!

Still, i wish her all the best.

vincent

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 27 July 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

sorry, I had to post it cos it was sooooo bitchy.

Allyzay will never stop making pancakes (allyzay), Thursday, 27 July 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

Still, i wish her all the best.

HAHAHA! Awesome.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 27 July 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Is it wrong that I'm intensely curious about Michael's sexual preference?

I mean, I know a million girls sighed last year when Daniel came out, and wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened this year.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 27 July 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

What is BPR? Butt Print Recorder?

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 27 July 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

...

Allyzay knows where the interfacing goes. (allyzay), Thursday, 27 July 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

looking at the outfits again, my favorites are kayne's and bonnie's.

that letter makes me love vincent.

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 27 July 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

okay is YOU-KNOW-WHO keith??

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Thursday, 27 July 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

i'm a night late, but!

aw i'm sad about katherine. i actually liked her dress, the judges clearly just hate "the sporty". i thought the look was nice, if a bit "coming from tennis" but i was way more ready to believe hot woman coming from the gym with her dog than most of the people's "stories".

i hope bradley can become more confident about himself over this result.

angela needs to be destroyed, soon. SO MANY MANY TIMES WORSE THAN KATHERINE'S OUTFIT! alright - scrunched up fluffy purple skirt, you will be destroyed later. so horrid. i just wanted her to leave before katherine. grr.

bell labs (bell_labs), Friday, 28 July 2006 04:22 (nineteen years ago)

The skirt wouldn't be so bad, just outdated, if she hadn't festooned it with what appeared to be scrunchies.

Allyzay knows where the interfacing goes. (allyzay), Friday, 28 July 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

DOCTOR CASINO! Malan was paired with Katherine Boo-ya

emilys. (emilys.), Friday, 28 July 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

Emilys - My bad. (Explanation to others: I was convinced Malan had Bonnie as his sidekick last week. Let's just interpret all this as proof that Bonnie has been nearly invisible on this show, since I paired her with the wrong person and Emily couldn't even remember her existing...)

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 28 July 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Bonnie is perfectly apparent if you pay attention to the fashion and not the reality-show-tropes so gauche to us premium television watchers.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 28 July 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

bonnie wasn't featured at all until her model went down the runway in the most recent episode.

mandee et al.: spoiler herein

joseph (joseph), Friday, 28 July 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

I posted that spoiler upthread and it was debunked.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 28 July 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

maybe I already identified why we haven't seen that much of Michael - (it's not just the producers, it's that) he's boring (tv-wise)?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 29 July 2006 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

or maybe he's the type who seeks mystique by saying little (who would do that?!), or the producers are casting him in that mold

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 29 July 2006 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

UH

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 31 July 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

I must have that right now.

Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Monday, 31 July 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

Eh, it almost looks more like Hilton Kramer with hair than Gunn. The lips are all wrong.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

roffle

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDmoQCrCUvQ&search=andrae

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

bradley is a treat! "I think.. uh.. maybe she just didn't like my beard."

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 3 August 2006 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

The kick-off is for a different reason than I expected.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 3 August 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

I read a spoiler somewhere to that effect, so not surprised.. but it's a shame, I kind of like Keith! I think Allison likes him too

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 3 August 2006 01:36 (nineteen years ago)

see I knew Angela wasn't so bad

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 3 August 2006 02:00 (nineteen years ago)

Allison is so fucking cute. I want her to just site around my apartment and smile all the time.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 3 August 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

The kick-off was kind of underwhelming after all the hype. I just wasn't invested in it, and all the relevant scenes seemed somehow sucked dry of drama. Glad that the episode got moving again after that.

The big question for me is whether Angela was saved by her team or whether she actually did restrain her impulses and produce a decent design. Possibly a little of both, but certainly the rosette situation got reined in by the minions, and I strongly suspect that in general their expertise in construction helped turn a middling outfit into a very very good one. Alison and Noize got a partial pass for the circumstances, IMO - the little loopy things on the bottom of their top were just dumb. This was also the first challenge without a 100% terrible outfit - both of the losing teams had some serious problems, but both were also wearable in the right configuration (basically, lose the jackets).

How do we feel about Kayne at this point? He took some little confessional jabs, and came off as sort of a tattletale re: the Keith matter - but then again, the show really beat us over the head with the blatant not-okay-ness of Keith's actions, so that probably gives Kayne a pass. Or does it? Somehow he just isn't rubbing me the right way - and neither is Robert, whom I liked back in Episode One. I can't really remember why now. Alison is still adorable and continues to also showcase very high-quality work, while Noize kind of laid low with the obnoxiousness this episode. Bradley seems to really be settling into the role of the dippy but good-humored stoner; his lone character note is "spaces out, time will be an issue." He's going to need a little bit more going on story-wise if he's going to make it to the end, I think...

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 3 August 2006 02:50 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, the top was cool! I was just looking at old Helmut Lang collections and didn't he do stuff like that?

Kayne was right to call out Keith for the books, I suppose - but what pissed me off was after Keith said he was kicked out and apologized and said he understood why they had a problem, Kayne and Robert continued on like "Don't you see how wrong you are?" I hate that kind of behavior. The situation's over, so maybe it'd be courteous to, you know, STFU after you got the guy got kicked off and he apologized to you.

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 3 August 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

I really loved Bonnie's outfit apart from the pants. :/

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 3 August 2006 05:11 (nineteen years ago)

daria - Excellent call on Kayne and Robert's attitude at the end of the scene. I can only hope there was some real-life self-excusing thing Keith said that got edited out, but as it is we we were definitely being given a somewhat negative spin on Kayne with that. Knew there was some reason why he really rubbed me wrong in this one.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 3 August 2006 05:27 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like all this teamwork. I hope this was the last one. It just seems that everyone except the team leaders will get immunity. A good strategy might be to give a crap proposal just to not become a leader.

I'll be surprised if Angela or Bradley are still on after the next 3 shows. Angela is all about the brilliant flash of inspiration, and lacks the consistent execution skills. Somebody needs to wake Bradley up, and tell him there's a competition going on.

nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Thursday, 3 August 2006 05:40 (nineteen years ago)

keith was being a dick though, the way things were edited--initially he was saying something about the designers being stressed out and needing a scapegoat. as if what he'd done was no big deal, which of course made no fucking sense. if he was saying such things to kane et al, it would be understandable for them to stand up and say, no, dude, you're so wrong. (but who knows, because...editing)

actually, i can't remember if keith ever admitted to being wrong--he certainly acknowledged the situation but more in how it would impact him by ruining his reputation and such. and how he never really used the books anyway.

angela is fucking looney, but she has good construction skills. i'm starting to wonder if she's going to be toning down her rosette fetish to something reasonable and sticking around for a while. i hated that cropped jacket. though really, i didn't much like any of the clothes tehy made.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 3 August 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

This was also the first challenge without a 100% terrible outfit

This is also the first challenge without anything approaching an awesome outfit, also. Granted, some of that is the fault of having to design an outfit for INC being the challenge. I loved how the dude from INC was pretending their shit isn't as badly constructed and cheap-looking as Robert/Bonnie's stuff!

Angela's outfit was, sans scrunchies"rosettes" was something that I could put together myself...by GOING TO MACY'S AND BUYING ANYTHING INC HAS SOLD IN THE PAST THREE-FOUR SEASONS. It was well put together and looked good but was the challenge to blatantly rip off what INC already sells or take INC's "style" and twist it? I mean, even just some color besides the pink and grey "Empire State Building" WAHT? theme. Keith's team did that (the twist of INC's already existing stuff, not the interesting color scheme stuff), but that top looked really dumb. The pants were completely, completely awesome though and quite honestly I kind of think they should've won and the reason they didn't was because it would be vindication for dude who just got kicked off and Bravo put the kibbosh on that idea.

Allyzay knows where the interfacing goes. (allyzay), Thursday, 3 August 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oddly, the only interesting thing about Angela's team's outfit was those stupid rosettes, she should have Laura and Michael come save her ass on crazy wack-job touches every week and a winner is them.

Oh, and what was Nina Horrible Whine going on about with the cowl necks? I've seen quite a few of them in the stores recently (LIKE FOR EXAMPLE IN THE INC SECTION AT HECHT'S), what was her vendetta against Bonnie's top? The top was the best part of that outfit.

Allyzay knows where the interfacing goes. (allyzay), Thursday, 3 August 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

the neck seemed okay, but the rest of the outfit sucked.

i dont' remember the pants from keith's outfit, because i was so distracted by the loopy things from the "convertible tank top". i didn't understand that at all.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 3 August 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't watch this episode because I had a Very Important Phone Call to take* - I watched it out of the corner of my eye, so only got a glimpse of the designs.
How can anyone, ever, defend Angela? Angela "I don't really sketch!" Angela with her "Love is A Battlefield" bloomy skirt. Angela "Howsa about an empire waist dress!" for Miss USA.
She sucks!
But, then again, I love Vincent....

* MariaD- I was on the phone with Sandi, and she has nowhere to watch PR - please accomodate her with reruns, etc., xoxo

aimurchie (aimurchie), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

You mean umpire waist.

Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't say that angela doesn't suck, but she might just be able to tone down her horrible sense of design and manage to stay in the show for a bit.

she and vincent both should have been cut in that ep where they were working together.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Tim's podcast sheds some light on how pissed all the designers were at Keith by the time they kicked him off and the confrontations happened. He was being really weird.

Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

I hope Angela takes some kind of lesson from her victory and tones it down a bit because I still hold quite fast to my remarks that her previous outfits looked like someone went to a Betsey Johnson store, 3 years ago, ate the clothes they bought, and vomited them on the model.

It is also pretty obvious without podcasts that almost all of the designers hated Keith.

Allyzay knows where the interfacing goes. (allyzay), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

OH WOW DUDES Has anyone gone to bravo's site today? There's a link to buy Angela's outfit.

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=213742&PartnerID=BRAVO&BannerID=x117&bhcp=1

What did I just say above about guy from INC having a lot of nerve going on about how cheap and poorly constructed the two losing teams' outfits were? They made the outfit HIDEOUS--and the prices they're charging are unreasonable, considering, like, the better looking, handmade, "expensivey" version Angela & Co made cost waaaay less than the mass-produced version? Holy shit.

Allyzay knows where the interfacing goes. (allyzay), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

re: keith: everyone hates someone that doesnt have to work hard. of course, pattern books help.

besides the kayne and whathisface post-apology bitchiness, it was pretty funny how allison and noizeneck, and some others, were complaining that keith was doing absolutely nothing on the challenge and as soon as he left it was all 'oh no! how are we going to do this without keith!'

designs: noizeneck's pants were beautiful. also, i loved the black thing (dress or skirt and top, maybe?) with the pointy white collar. gorgeous! the jacket did suck but the dress was infinitely better than angela's outfit. empire state indeed. how are these fashion "pros" impressed by that shit?

finally, does anyone else want to slap vera wang? why so snarky? and that other bitchy judge too.

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, Nina's comment on cowl necks was inexplicable. I think she said something like, "WHO wears a cowl-neck?" and everyone I was watching the show with was like, "uh, me?" I love Nina Garcia, but she is crazy sometimes.

this is evil, but I think I mostly hate Angela because of her face. So hatchet-y.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Vera Wang isn't bitchy enough, though! she seems weirdly well-adjusted for someone in fashion. I miss Michael Kors.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

where is michael kors? hes only been on one episode so far, no?

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

I think he's back next week, but I have no idea why he's been gone.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 3 August 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

re: the episode, I kind of think Allison and Gross Neck Dude should have won, too, because their pants were gorgeous, but their shirt was kind of obscene, I thought. It looked like it had a pair of underwear hanging off its bottom.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 3 August 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

It's cool that Angela was so inspired by the Umpire State Building.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 3 August 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get the hate for Angela at all. so she's eccentric! And? I noticed last week that the judges agreed the construction of her outfit was quite good, and Vera Wang said the styling was bad, not the clothes themselves. I really have no problem with her funky skirts, I wouldn't wear them, but they're well made and interesting. good taste wrecks fashion sometimes

You're right Ally, INC made the outfit really dreadful and cheap looking! now it looks like JC Penney! that pale grey is all wrong because the pink is wayyyy too pink. very disappointed, I am not a huge fan of Banana Republic but they wouldn't have screwed it up like that

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 3 August 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

It's not that she's eccentric, it's that her ideas are bad 99.9998% of the time. I find almost nothing she does "interesting"--being weird and obnoxious for the sake of being weird and obnoxious isn't any better than being overly tasteful just for the sake of it (lol TS Vincent/Angela v Laura/Robert). She is talened at making clothes, I just don't think she has very much talent at making fashion. Have you seen her website by any chance??? I will still, any day of the week, vote for Malan's "inspired by the oceans and its creatures" playboy bunny bustier and fishnets over anything on Angela's website :\

Actually, to be totally honest, I'd probably vote for Angela's 2-years-out-of-style puff skirts and Bananarama crap than the stuff on her own website so at least she's improving.

Allyzay knows where the interfacing goes. (allyzay), Thursday, 3 August 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

And I'm still stunned at the INC version of her outfit. I hope whomever wins does a season 1 and turns down the apprenticeship with them, they're awful.

Allyzay knows where the interfacing goes. (allyzay), Thursday, 3 August 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

My hatred for Angela was how nasty she was when teamed with Vincent, and how slimy she was when trying to get on Kayne's team.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 3 August 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

chloe from season 2 turned down the banana republic apprenticeship also, didn't she?

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 3 August 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

I've looked at her web site. I don't like those clothes as they are but she's off in the middle of Ohio doing this stuff, and I still think it could be like a Jay McCarroll thing, there is raw talent there

Vincent is a shithead, come on! Tim Gunn certainly thought so. And I don't think Kayne's appeal is likely to grow as the season progresses, let's say..

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 3 August 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

re: keith: everyone hates someone that doesnt have to work hard. of course, pattern books help.

pattern books make an enormous difference. my flatmate, who does costuming stuff for a living, was explaining to me how intricate a process it is to design/make clothing from scratch. it's really difficult and involved to figure out the proportions of things so that a design will fit a person reasonably (though once you have the measurements of a pattern, it's much more straightforward to adjust it for differing sizes). if you're studying with/working from a pattern book, you have an idea of the various measurements to base your garment on already, which basically allows you to skip a complicated and work-intensive step of the process.

keith was one of the better designers, and constructed his garments well. he was incredibly stupid to fuck up his chances on the show by having those books, whether or not he used them.

in tim's podcast, he mentioned that it was bradley that shared a room with keith, not kayne, and tim seemed to think it interesting that kayne was nonetheless the one who seemed to discover that keith had books...

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 3 August 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Vincent. He's Vincent's roommate. Tim seems confused/noncommital about what was really going on there. Could be that Vincent *knew* Keith had the books, but decided to whisper it around rather than rat Keith out, which is maybe what caused the producers to ask everyone if they had any contraband material a second time. And when Keith didn't give himself up, Kayne decided that enough was enough.

Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Thursday, 3 August 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

I like my theory: THEY WUZ FUCKIN

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 3 August 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Kayne is going to be the villain of this show, you watch.

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 3 August 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't Kayne like a name for a porn star or the bass player of Staind or something? He looks like the Prodigy dude playing Fred Schneider. I found him hella-annoying from the beginning.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 3 August 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

he was a bit much initially (NO WIRE HANGERS!) but seems ok now.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 3 August 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

Jeffrey was Keith's roommate, Tim Gunn sez. I just heard it on the podcast. "There's lots of background stuff going on," he also sez.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 August 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still going with my final three of Michael, Uli, and Allison.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 4 August 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

xpost They both were.

Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Friday, 4 August 2006 00:37 (nineteen years ago)

I've never listened to one of his podcasts before. Is Tim Gunn not possibly the nicest man on the planet? He was really worried about Keith even though he's an asshole. And then he was tough but fair. And he has to psychologically prepare himself to tell designers to go clean up their space!!! I'm telling you, he should be my dad. I think I'm just going to start calling him Papa.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 August 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

Also:

http://www.bravotv.com/blog/timstake/_blogImages/2006/08/timstake_angela1_320x240.jpg

AHHHHHHHHHHH! I was charmed by her youthful exuberance during the show, but in that photo, she looks like she's getting ready to EAT MY BRAINS>

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 4 August 2006 00:44 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get the hate for Angela at all. so she's eccentric! And? She takes herself so seriously. If she had some more humility, I'd like her much better. I do like her a little better after this episode, though. She reminds me of someone I hated from a Survivor long ago. I tell ya, these shows are much more fun if you can hate someone. Most of my hate so far has been directed at Neck.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Friday, 4 August 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone see Tim Gunn on Conan last night? He was really endearing and funny in that "I'm a teacher of fashion!" sort of way.

As for Angela, she would have messed up that entire outfit if she had done what she had wanted (putting the rosettes everywhere), had her two team members not put the kibosh on it. From day one she's been totally conniving. Boo to Angela. She's a fashion train wreck.

molly d (mollyd), Friday, 4 August 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

agh, I wanted to see that. isn't he supposed to be on some other show too?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 4 August 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

I seem to be right about Michael. From a Bonnie interview...

All the blogs are so angry Michael isn't shown more. It's because he's so mellow.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

She reminds me of someone I hated from a Survivor long ago

Oooh, who? I adore Survivor.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Well, Jerri.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

So guys, Malan is showing at fashion week in September! And so is Jay!

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

I like Angela more than I did (and yes, it was Jerri).
Q. Can I tell you that I dislike you? (or whatever yuckneck said)
A. Fair enough, but don't blame me for something I didn't do.

She didn't bat an eye.

Cool how apt most of the icons were. Too bad the room wasn't filled with 20 actual fashion icons in person and all wrinkly.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 10 August 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

Cameltoe!!

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 10 August 2006 01:23 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's going to be Bradley's time to go. What is that?

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 10 August 2006 01:34 (nineteen years ago)

Heidi always judges garments as "cheap" or "expensive". She was OTM with her "costume at the mall" comment though.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 10 August 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

Maria :D OTM.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 10 August 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

Michael!!! Yay!

Bradley was being extrahippycharming this episode, so I was kind of sorry to see him go but holy shit. That outfit was dreadful.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 10 August 2006 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

bradley! "I made.. a tinker toy!"

michael: "I don't want to be all.. Captain save-a-ho.."

Angela's dress was gorgeous..

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 10 August 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

there were several outfits that impressed me in this one. i felt bad for bradley, but it was awful. you should be penalized for not knowing who cher is, anyway.

Maria (Maria), Thursday, 10 August 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I felt the overall quality of outfits this time around was kind of bad. Except for Michael (and, honestly, Vincent!), everybody failed either on dressmaking or on icon-matching. I thought Kayne's was a dazzling dress (butt looked bizarre though) but not really very Marilyn. Outcome was completely wrong though - Bradley's outfit was terrible, yes, but it was at least conceivable that Cher could have worn it at some period in her career. Robert's had nothing whatsover to do with Jackie O, and it was ugly, and it was ugly in the same way as his last ugly outfit - those fucking jackets! I was totally thrilled that Michael won but otherwise there wasn't much to love about this episode - when Jeffrey fights with Angela, do you really care who comes out on top? And I still don't get trying to make drama out of the models - total filler IMO.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 August 2006 03:30 (nineteen years ago)

I thought both Kayne's and Angela's dresses were nice - glad Michael won, though. Kayne's was cool-looking, though there was something going on with the butt. Why does Robert want to belt everything with rope and make everyone wear a frumpy parka? I would like to see Bradley in some other context - this was not his element, but there were glimmers of his charm.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 10 August 2006 04:09 (nineteen years ago)

When I look at this thread, I keep being irked by Bradley's gray sweatshirt in the first photo.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 10 August 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

Bradley was being extrahippycharming this episode, so I was kind of sorry to see him go but holy shit. That outfit was dreadful.

OTM

Michael's was so hot, I couldn't fucking stand it.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 10 August 2006 05:39 (nineteen years ago)

agreed. michael is gold. i still hate angela, vincent and noise neck. i cant believe they all liked the back of kayne's dress. the models butt looked like it was wobbling around in a sandwich maker. when a model looks like theyve got a big butt in a dress, something is very wrong.
overall i thought all of the outfits were really boring considering the assignment called for free reign on glamour. if it were my assignment, i would have beat models down for farrah.

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 10 August 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

yup, right on. angela and her goddamn rosettes need to go. her dress' form was nice, but the bottom with her "trademark" was TOO MUCH.

molly d (mollyd), Thursday, 10 August 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

Why does Robert want to belt everything with rope and make everyone wear a frumpy parka?

Robert's fashion icons: Barbie and the Golden Girls

so y'know, if that's how you want to look, call Robert

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 10 August 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

I actually thought Angela's dress was great, much better than the previous week's outfit for which she won. The rosettes are going to drive me insane, but the whole thing just looked awesome. :(

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 10 August 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Angela's dress was awesome (though the rosettes on the bottom do kind of ruin it).


Call me crazy, but I really, really loved Vincent's design. Should've been top 3 IMO. I love what he did with the sleeves.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

You're not crazy, I thought Vincent did just fine and I don't know why they beat up on him so much. The Brady Bunch?!? Partridge Family maybe, but what's wrong with that?

The way Jeffrey continues to hoodwink the judges confuses the shit out of me. The people I was watching with this week speculate that because the judges are all in the high fashion world, they're completely unaware of the existence of Hot Topic and find all attempts at "rock and roll" fashion to be unbelievably cutting-edge. Next week look for them to go ape over a white belt, skinny ties, the combination of black and red?!?!, and the liberal use of buttons advertising various bands and sassy sentiments.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

While I don't hate her as intensely as I did the first couple episodes, Angela "I CALL THEM FLEURCHONS" Keslar really needs to drop the francophile thing.

I'm so glad Michael won! His outfit was on fire it was so hot. And did anyone else see him do that little dance on the runway when they proclaimed him the winner? AWESOME. My favorite.

Bradley's gone. Good. Dude was dead weight.

Laura is good, her styling and construction are nearly impeccable, but she needs to add some goddamn COLOR to her designs. All of her outfits are like: tan, nude, taupe, blah, oyster, beige, yawn, tan, brown, chestnut, beige, beige, beige. Come on, lady, live a little.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

i love michael. he was adorable with that dance when he won. the CAPTAIN SAVE-A-HO comment cracked me up. his outfit rocked and was an obvious winner.

i loved the diana ross one too, uli's i think.

i liked what angela did with the material of her dress, and it turned out well overall, but her fucking fleurchons make things look too ruffly/puffy/something. they weren't as overkill as they can be but ugh. she's got to find a more subtle way to add detail to her designs.

vincent's dress was odd, though not as bad as the judges made it out to be--but the pockets looked ludicrous.

tim's blog has pics of each garment he's discussing this week. yay.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

the single google result for "fleurchon" is angela's website.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 10 August 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

from said website:

http://www.angelakeslar.com/collections/prodimages/BlossomBag375.jpg

... if georgia o'keefe designed handbags.


UGH.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 10 August 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

that's kind of hilarious. and very very ugly.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 10 August 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

I think every woman wants a handbag that looks like an olive/hot pink vagina.

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 10 August 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

Also Vincent's dress was the DEFINITION OF FUGLY HORRORSHOW.

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 10 August 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Vincent's dress was really cute! Angela's though. UGH

phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 12 August 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

i really liked vincent's dress too. im still confused as to why the judges dismissed it as not a twiggy kind of dress so quickly. it looked very twiggy to me - cute, short, a-line which is very 60s and would make the legs look even skinnier than they are, those great bell sleeves to make the arms look even skinnier and kind of child-like which was very twiggy too.

sunny successor (katharine), Sunday, 13 August 2006 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

:( Bye Allison

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 17 August 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

she was robbed. Kayne made some nice dresses but also some really ugly ones, and this one was spectacularly ugly. Allison's been consistently good and consistently more interesting. I would've kicked Vincent out before Allison as well.

And Jeffrey probably should've won.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 17 August 2006 02:37 (nineteen years ago)

i was shocked that they kicked off allison rather than vincent. but perhaps i was blinded by my bias against vincent. he has a voice that makes me want to cry.

jeffrey and michael both made awesome dresses. but what was up with the great praise of laura's? it seemed flat and dull to me.

Maria (Maria), Thursday, 17 August 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

im officially done with this show. the first two seasons were definitely about fashion followed by tv watchability, not the opposite way around, which is what's happening in season three.

mts (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 17 August 2006 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

LOL @ doing allison's exit interview

Jimmy Mod: THE HANDLESS ORGANIST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 17 August 2006 03:32 (nineteen years ago)

LOL at Michael Kors...

"She looks like a brioche made of paper!"

"KUDOS"

1. Uli (a little boring, but beautifully boring)
2. Michael (never really my style - and Jeffrey's right, he takes only subtle risks - but consistently creative and well-done)
3. Laura (if you're gonna be too much of something, tasteful is probably the right choice, and she's still my favorite character)
4. Jeffrey (adds the fun back to Michael's invention, but too much of a dick to be higher)
5. Robert (despite being a Kayne-enabler and excessively inoffensive; I think I have a love-hate relationship with his neo-Princeton-undergrad thing)
7. Kayne (I don't completely hate him anymore, I just hate his clothes)/Vincent (i like his style, but see no evidence of substance)
8. Angela (...)

I was disappointed with the tv vs fashion split during the episode, but i'm holding out hope that things improve as we narrow the field

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 17 August 2006 04:26 (nineteen years ago)

do the judges ever disagree on anything? it seems like if the first person hates it, then its like snowball effect. i don't think i've seen a dress this year that was split in opinion.

and yeah, allison's wasn't so hot, but wtf was vincents?? he wrapped her up in paper and glued bits to her, and she couldn't even walk! and whoa, laura afterwards too was like "WTF!! Your model couldn't walk!!!" daaaaamn

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 17 August 2006 05:29 (nineteen years ago)

and allison was just too cute to kick off so soon :(

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 17 August 2006 05:30 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's retarded to kick a good designer off because she couldn't make a sexy dress out of TRASH in ONE DAY.

Jeffrey's dress was outstanding.

Laura beatboxing with Michael was the second best moment of my life. First best was Heidi saying: "There's a thin line between innovation... AND INSANITY."

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 17 August 2006 05:34 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, I couldn't stand Allison. I cheered wholeheartedly when she got the boot and high-fives were given all around. I can't stand her variable psuedo-intellectual-posh-lisp thing. But that's not a really good reason to dislike someone. I'm shallow, what can I say? That being said, I do think Vincent should have been out as he's been constantly CRAPPY for the entire show. He's just sad and wearing thin on my nerves.

And what was with Heidi's anti-fat-girl remarks (i.e. "She looks like a plus size model")? Bad form, Klum! Eat a sandwich!

molly d (mollyd), Thursday, 17 August 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

I think the point is that models who are not plus-size models don't like being put in clothes that make them look like plus-size models.

Vincent or Kayne needed to go this week, preferably Kayne.

Right now I think the top 4 are going to be Michael, Jeffrey, Laura and Uli.

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 August 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

I was really sad to see Alison go, I think that she just had a bad week and was basically getting screwed over so the bigger personalities could stick around a bit longer. She's cute and talented and seems like a really nice real-life version of a girl from the Fashion Club on Daria.

Vincent is extremely entertaining to me, especially when he's saying stuff like "it turns me on" as a justification for his weird weird ugly clothing, but c'mon! It's just too obvious that he's being floated along, and realistically, he should have been ditched in the first week.

I deeply loathe Laura - she's just a repugnant human being, and so is that queeny weasal Kayne. I'm in Michael's corner all the way, though I do think Jeff should have won this week, even if I normally can't stand that guy.

Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Thursday, 17 August 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, I think Kayne will edge out Uli in the top four.

Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Thursday, 17 August 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

Wasn't Allison's model the one Tim referred to as "zaftig"?

Also, Laura is a one-trick pony.

molly d (mollyd), Thursday, 17 August 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

Obviously, the most satisfying thing in this season will be when Laura finally gets her smug hyper-entitled ass handed to her, and we get to see her little hissy fit exit interview.

Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Thursday, 17 August 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

If that happens, I will travel back in time to personally kick Kayne in the throat.

Jeffrey is a loathsome tool but he's undeniably talented.

Laura's big plus is that she designs clothes that look nice all the time. Her big minus is that she has no concept of when her two cents on other people's lives is desired (ans: never).

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 August 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

re: allison's model - tim had already said that model was fat.

allison was ok. she should go design for urban outfitters or something. cash minus stress.

i hate laura and vincent equally now. theyre both so incredibly whiny and boring and way too much up in other peoples business. also, laura was being a magabitch last night. i like to think that final shot of her arguing with vincent, where the camera is at the right angle to catch a very droopy boob, was instant karma.

i think vincents downfall will be concentrating too much on what everyone else is doing and not enough coming up with his own stuff and laura's, hopefully, will be that she has one style AND its been done a million times before. boring.

michael is my favorite and i truly think he'll make top two but that dress last night was just awful. i dont get the judges at all.

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 17 August 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

oh...well, molly d OTM

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 17 August 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

laura's a successful professional and 50ish mother of (4?). of course she's direct and up in other peoples' business and has droopy boobs. i can't wait for the reaction if she wins.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 17 August 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'm finding myself liking everyone more on this show and wondering what's wrong with me. I can't bring myself to really hate any of them. Michael and Ulli are my favorite designers. I thought Jeffrey should have won. Alison was just too nice - no drama. I'm wondering if Laura is actually playing the show and consciously making drama to get more air time. She's no dummy; that's the best way to get famous on this show.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 17 August 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

You know who I'm actually kind of hating this season is Heidi. She's all about what's expensive-looking. She's always using the word "mall" with disgust to put down designers' work. She and Michael Kors love Laura's boring but classy designs so much because Laura looks like a rich lady and designs for ladies who want to look rich. I don't think it's about beauty with them -- it's about class.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 17 August 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

Michael's dress was rly cool up close...

Jimmy Mod: THE HANDLESS ORGANIST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

I think that Michael won because his dress was just a smidge more wearable-looking. The judges this season really, really seem to like designs that would easily covert to RTW and are less impressed by the "editorial" wacky stuff. Like, they'll like a dress that's both creative AND normal looking over one that is creative but crazy.

That said, Michael and Jeffrey both made great dresses, but I'm glad Michael won because I liked his design the best and I love him special. I wish Vincent had gone over Alison, but I also think that Vincent is going to LOSE HIS SHIT before too long and that will be awesome to behold. It did suck that Kayne got to stay on the merits of his previous work but Alison got the boot based on one horrificly misguided decision to put a giant bow of hair on top of her fat model's head.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

One thing that I will add is that it was hilarious to hear Kayne berate Laura's character only moments after he and Robert talked shit about her in the lunch room. Laura might be a bit evil, but she will tell it to your face, whereas Kayne is just a self-righteous piece of shit.

Laura's reaction was almost exactly the same as Daniel Vosovic's pathetic reaction to Santino outlasting Nick & Kara, which pains me as a sometimes-Laura fan.

Then again, Vincent sucks.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

incent is extremely entertaining to me, especially when he's saying stuff like "it turns me on" as a justification for his weird weird ugly clothing

haha yeah! i loved how he kept saying that the dress and the way she walks in it "gets him off"

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 17 August 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

i can't believe he thinks that's a worthwhile justification! i think an ego really does help you get through this show, but as heidi would say...it's a fine line.

Maria (Maria), Thursday, 17 August 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

even the suggestion that vincent "gets off" EVER is reason enough for him to be exiled. now excuse me while i claw at my eyes.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 17 August 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I figure he also probably said "this dress gets me hard" but they couldn't get that on the air.

Matthew Perpetua! (Matthew Perpetua!), Thursday, 17 August 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

he did not say that, I assure you.

Jimmy Mod: THE HANDLESS ORGANIST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 17 August 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

The weird crap Vincent glued all over his lampshade-ova-dress reminds me of those backlit images you used to be able to elect to have floating behind you in school photos ca. 1989.

Also elmo OTM. Guy gives effete lunatics everywhere a bad name.

Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Thursday, 17 August 2006 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

http://secure.mycart.net/product_images/catalog1531/picname270419.jpg

Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

"effete"?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:43 (nineteen years ago)

"(2) marked by self-indulgence, triviality, or decadence"

Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:52 (nineteen years ago)

... and it's a stretch, I know.

Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

is anyone else a little embarrassed when the judges rave about how WELL-SPOKEN the only black contestant is?

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Friday, 18 August 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

the never said "well-spoken". they said he explains his concepts really well, which he does. unlike some of the others who sort of babble and make shit up on the fly. or are just kooky alltogether like that hooker's outfit for the schoolteacher in paris.

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 18 August 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

michael is totally cute, btw.

also: kayne vs robert. who's the top?

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 18 August 2006 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

they said he was smart and really thought about the challenge. which is true isn't it? kayne could've BSed his way through the judging way better if he'd thought about it beyond "I hate my dress"

dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 18 August 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

is anyone else a little embarrassed when the judges rave about how WELL-SPOKEN the only black contestant is?

This jumped out at me too, partially because Michael Kors had the same line about Michael last week. "And when he talked about it...you could tell he really thought about it!" Astounding! "He sure is ar-tic-u-late!"

But I hope that it comes less from any racism on the judges' part and more from how incoherent and short-sighted all the other designers are. If there's one thing you'd presumably learn to do in the design profession, it's to have an idea in your head and be able to articulate it to people! What we see of Michael's explanations isn't that sophisticated, but it's certainly better than what anybody else is offering. I suspect Bravo may be dumbing down the discourse on the show considerably, which is a shame. In which case, it's just typically heavy-handed editing solidifying Michael's main plot points for right now: he's funny, he's doing well, and he's smart.

Just wanted to chime in before the backlash swamps you, elmo.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 18 August 2006 04:30 (nineteen years ago)

I figure Laura has a pretty good shot at being one of the last three. A rich woman making clothes for rich women that they might actually buy will go further than some of the more artsy stuff. I don't know much about fashion, but Chloe Dao seemed to get props often for what she made seemed like something that would sell.

That Jeffrey guy may a more artistic designer but all of his stuff looks like something that should be costumes in Underworld or Blade.

Vincent seems like he should be one of Kramer's friends in Seinfeld.

"You know Jer, you should wear one of his shirts, Vincent is very artistic."

Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 18 August 2006 04:59 (nineteen years ago)

also: kayne vs robert. who's the top?

KAYNE.

i was expecting jeffrey to win (i was surprised since i hate him), but michael's was great too.

in tim's podcast he talks about how the designers were really shocked and kind of angry that allison got voted off. he mentioned many of them being very vocal in their reactions, really tearing into vincent. the clip they showed of laura sounded like it was the end of a heated discussion among a bunch of them that otherwise got edited, making laura look like more of a bitch.

Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 18 August 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

I just read this thread and can't believe none of you feel, as I do, that Vincent is a ridiculous fuckface who has no idea what he's doing. I mean, Allison has been doing OKAY at least, his designs have been in the bottom 3 EVERY TIME, it is so ridiculous that she was kicked off before him.

At least though, in the recycled materials challenge, tattoo fuckneck guy FINALLY designed something that SORT OF lived up to his own high opinion of himself.

captain reverend gandalf jesus (nickalicious), Monday, 21 August 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Oh okay wait, maybe I didn't read the whole thread.

captain reverend gandalf jesus (nickalicious), Monday, 21 August 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

laura's a successful professional and 50ish mother of (4?). of course she's direct and up in other peoples' business and has droopy boobs. i can't wait for the reaction if she wins.

-- gabbneb, August 17th, 2006 10:10 AM. (gabbneb) (link)

Oh right I forgot that in your fucked-up world being a "successful professional" gives you the right to be a cunt to people whenever.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 21 August 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Vincent is kind of an adorable village idiot. But he should have gotten booted on the third challenge, after The Lady Who Didn't Know How To use A Sewing Machine and The Bitch Who Did No Work The Entire Second Episode.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 21 August 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

somehow i really enjoyed her being a cunt. it was incredibly rude and inappropriate, but i think he deserved it, so it was very satisfying to watch.

Maria (Maria), Monday, 21 August 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Oh right I forgot that in your fucked-up world being a "successful professional" gives you the right to be a cunt to people whenever.

I didn't say it "gives you the right to be a cunt to people whenever," I said that working in a high-pressure job WHILE being a parent of 4 is likely to make someone an in-charge type unhesitant to share their feelings, something that perhaps might go unappreciated by the single 20- and 30-somethings on the show (though Vincent's 49 (?) and a parent too). It reminded me of the Doonesbury on my Mom's office door (my Mom is not like Laura) about how in middle age Joanie Caucus talks to her kids and her mother in the same tone of voice.

I wonder, however, where else I have expressed the opinion that "being a 'successful professional' gives you the right to be a cunt to people whenever," or if I have "be[en] a cunt to people," and, if so, who those people might be.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 21 August 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I think that Laura's main problem isn't whether she's a cunt or not, but that she apparently can't make anything other than a Laura-dress. She'll get booted later on in the season in a hail of "we've seen this from you before" criticisms.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 21 August 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

yeah I don't care about her being bitchy with people at all, just gabbneb's bizarro justification for it

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

I realize that's seemingly OOLF but an in-charge type unhesitant to share their feelings, something that perhaps might go unappreciated by the single 20- and 30-somethings on the show blows my motherfucking mind

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

the problem with laura-dresses is that they can be boring. i was really surprised that the white smock with the nuts on the back got such unanimously good reviews. but as far as upcoming "we've seen this before" criticisms, don't you think uli will get them too? i love everything she makes, but it also seems like a lot of variations on one style.

Maria (Maria), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

i thought this week's uli was pretty different for her since it involved so much braiding rather than layered patterns.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

the 20- and 30-somethings talk about others behind their back, like officemates with the door closed or out at lunch together. Laura talks to others to their face like she's called them in for a talk with the boss.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

that's true, but she didn't have fabric, so i don't count it. still, it was great!

and yeah, i guess i'd rather have someone say something to my face than make fun of me behind my back (& on national television).

Maria (Maria), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

anyway, I don't see her being a jerk, really. the one place I conceded was when she was bitching out Vincent while Allison was leaving, and Kayne called her out in a more adult (but condescending) manner, but I withdraw my concession in light of the stuff about editing above.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

one of these days, uli will have to make something with sleeves.

i liked what she did this past week, but didn't really like the overall shape of her dress. it was one of the better ones nonetheless.

am i the only one that thinks that laura is very direct, albeit harshly so at times, rather than being a total cunt/bitch? (xp)

Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

and while the 20- and 30-something certainly know how to be bitchy, they're not used to being authoritative parents/bosses

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 21 August 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Possibly the best thing ever: http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/files/vincent_justify.mp3

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

Vincent!!! hahahahahaha

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Laura might be the last to get booted but there's no way she's in the top 3. It would be a dozen outfits all with waists 2" below the nips.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

oh NO it is thursday and i totally forgot about project runway! i wonder if i can catch the rerun anytime today. this is serious.

Maria (Maria), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Vincent wanted to nail Uli's mom so bad.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Vincent's outfit didn't fit very well, and the collar looked like she had a seagull stuck on her chest.

Oh well. Way to go, CrazyPants.

molly d (mollyd), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Angela's mom was such a crybaby. "Bu, but I don't like the colors..." Just wear the dress and smile for pete's sake!

Super Cub (Debito), Thursday, 24 August 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

jeffery was being a complete prick though.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 24 August 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Jeffery is a prick, but there is something honorable about his prickness.

Super Cub (Debito), Thursday, 24 August 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, when your client asks for purple and green, it's time to be a prick.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 24 August 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

This is the first thing Michael's done that I've REALLY, REALLY liked (that thing he won for last week was just ridiculous. He's so this season's Daniel Vosovic). His outfit for the dogwalking challenge was pretty good as well, but this was awsome. Loved the print.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 24 August 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

jeffrey is horrible. everyone's out to get him, aren't they? poor jeffrey. maybe if he didn't treat most everyone like absolute garbage, it'd help.

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 24 August 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't watch this, but I saw the clothes on the website, so...

1. Michael
2. Uli
3. Kayne
4. Vincent
5. Laura
6. Jeffrey

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 24 August 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

OMG I DIDN'T ACTUALLY SEE THE CLOTHES LAST NIGHT, ONLY THE ELIMINATION

WTF WAS ROBERT THINKING??????????????? (besides "hmm, Great Pumpkin!")

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 August 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

At least Jeffrey is pretty honest about treating "everyone" like garbage. He picks his battles. Laura has a problem with everybody except for Michael, and Angela is still easily the worst person on the show.

I think the fact that Jeffrey & Vincent are so far the only contestants who seem to think it appropriate to make any kind of gesture to the auf'd folks next to them on the runway is pretty telling as to why I like them better than most folks do.

My attitudes towards the 3rd & 4th best designers left on the program are pretty well summed up by Jeffrey actually tearing up when Robert was auf'd instead of him, vs. Laura opting to throw F-bombs at Vincent while Alison was saying her goodbyes.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 24 August 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

I think that Jeffrey and Laura are equally vile/unlikeable/likeable/analogous to a wallaby, but neither is as vile as what Robert made in that last challenge! SRSLY DUDE, WHAT WERE YOU THINKING??????

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

i'm having a hard time caring much about any of these designers this year, I don't know why. Michael is great (so is Uli) but they're both...boring? Santino really set the standard last year, I think, for interesting stuff (even when it failed).

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

"what would look good on a 250-gallon boiler?"

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

This is the first thing Michael's done that I've REALLY, REALLY liked

yes

He's so this season's Daniel Vosovic

hell no. he has actual creative talent rather than mere taste, skill and adolescent-girl-appeal.

Michael is great (so is Uli) but they're both...boring? Santino really set the standard last year, I think, for interesting stuff

YES

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

I think that Uli, Michael, Jeffrey, Angela and Laura are all very talented ("boring"/"interesting" is a false dichotomy for me; I tend much more towards "wearable"/"summer squash").

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

I think Vincent is still around because otherwise the lineup goes "catalogue catalogue catalogue catalogue catalogue Jeffrey"

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

necktats was muthafuckin ROBBED on the recycling episode

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

if the next two aufs aren't angela & kayne I'm going to be a hateful person on a thursday morning in the near future

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

The first couple times Robert didn't get elimated for being boring I was really glad, thinking that he deserved another chance. But last night, I was jumping up and down to see him go because that was some fugly shit, even though Vincent's sister wasn't exactly the most cheerful looking human being and probably didn't help matters much clumping down the runway with a big, surly scowl on her face.

I wondered a little if part of the reason Michael didn't win this time is that his model was thin, which gave him too much of an advantage. Also, winning three times in a row would be a bit much, I guess.

I thought Jeffrey was being horrible, because when you're dealing with someone's mother you should generally be as nice as possible for as long as possible, but I'll bet Angela's mom is one of those passive/aggressive types with like, Munchausen's by proxy for drama and unrest. I don't have anything to base that one except a hunch, though.

Oh, and Uli was robbed - again.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

well Angela had to learn how to get other people to do all her work for her every chance she gets from somewhere

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

Actually I do have something to base that on - I think that I, at my impetuously young age, could have handled Jeffrey's behavior without tears and without requiring consolation from my daughter and his mother. It seems like someone old enough to have a daughter my age should have a little more ability to DEAL with things like being petulantly snapped at by some little shit with tattoos on his neck who hilariously resembles a giant talking penis. I can only assume that she wanted some attention so made a big deal out of a shitty comment that wasn't, you know, as bad as calling her a big fat cow with a dipshit daughter or something.

And also what Tombot said.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

the judges' facial reactions to Vincent's "turns me on" justification is still probably my favorite moment of the show so far (fortunately I tivo'd it, so I went back and watched it several times). Last night's show was a major dud. I wasn't excited about anyone's designs & Robert getting kicked off was totally predictable.

emilys. (emilys.), Friday, 25 August 2006 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

It must be noted that Tim Gunn was completely adorable when he was tearing up during his grand farewell to Robert.

molly d (mollyd), Friday, 25 August 2006 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

Jeffrey is just.. emotionally about age 5 and really insecure and seems to use that as a reason to trample all over everyone else. the way he treated Angela's mother was hard to watch. inexcusable. it's not like she signed up to be a reality tv star and probably just agreed to do it to be supportive of her daughter, even though she clearly has a v limited comfort zone, clothing wise. lots of women are sensitive already about their appearance, not to mention being on camera! and then she gets blindsided by being paired with a totally belligerent, obnoxious prick who doesn't listen to her at all and turns hostile the minute she actually - ohno! - has an opinion of her own? and his mother, making excuses for him like his behavior is just fine? really embarrassing. also, the guy has shit for taste and I hate his clothes.

phew! vincent makes me cringe quite a lot but he seems like a decent guy, just extremely flaky.. is there some generational thing here too, like he grew up and got into art/fashion before anyone discovered postmodern irony and he has no idea that even happened. cool

dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 25 August 2006 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

also, the guy has shit for taste and I hate his clothes.

No way dude, no way. Boo. We're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. Newspaper dress = way hot.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 25 August 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Agreed on the newspaper dress.

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Friday, 25 August 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

But seriously, why did Robert look at his model and go "HEY, KOOL-AID!!!!!"?

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Friday, 25 August 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha OTM.

also, in re: newspaper dress; I agree that it was cool, but remember that J.S. (whose name is just one vowelsound from the way my brother's full name is pronounced, ouch) said that he's already been doing dyed newspaper in his own work -- it was kind of like if Stereolab was in a music contest and they announced "you will be doing something very challenging, each of you must come up with a 10 minute long song in 12/7 time, using only electronic sounds and 1960s jazz-funk loops, and the lyrics must be in two languages vaguely critiquing capitalist culture" and the other bands would all be like OH CRAP

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 25 August 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I remember that (he tapped his newspaper-patched jeans when he said that); that's part of the reason why I think he should have won that challenge.

Seeing the closeups of the last challenge dresses on the Bravo website make me REALLY wonder why Crazypants won over Michael and Uli.

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Friday, 25 August 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

I think that I, at my impetuously young age, could have handled Jeffrey's behavior without tears and without requiring consolation from my daughter and his mother

I was sympathetic to Angela's mother, and naturally got fed up with Jeffrey about two seconds into their interactions, but I do think PTCF has a point here. Maybe she didn't sign up to do yadda yadda yadda, but the fact is, in life (unless you never leave the house) you're going to meet some people who are rude to you, and you need to be able to hack it. If I'm allowed to judge the rest of the cast based on their heavily-edited behavior in an artificial situation, then I can judge Angela's mom too. The conversation between her, Angela, and Jeffrey's mom was absolutely fascinating as a microcosm of Angela vs. Jeffrey - you saw A&J's whole lives for a second, everything came into focus.

Vincent's weird pasted-on collar was iffy, but it was a decent dress overall and clearly belonged in the top tier. I also thought he displayed the best attitude this episode, and it's the first time he's really gotten to shine as the positive guy in any of the drama. "THESE are the people who'll actually buy and wear your clothes" === 1000x OTM.

Thank God, Robert is gone. Why did he get so many second chances? This was only the latest in a long series of completely underwhelming outfits, and the Jackie O. monstrosity was arguably even worse than this one. Would that he had gone early enough to spare Bradley or Alison for another episode, but so it goes. Can we lose Kayne next please? He's grating on me and I feel like he's run out of tricks design-wise (ditto Laura), while Uli, Michael, and indeed Vincent do at least try to make a different garment each episode.

To some extent I wonder if some of the lesser designers on the show have just plain given up in the face of the competition. I got that vibe from Robert a lot - he talked about having to work hard, but I didn't see it, and I wonder, if you find yourself in a room with Michael and Uli do you just go "...shit, I am WAY out of my league"? Because you know that, dollars to donuts, you are not going to actually win the thing.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 25 August 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

I found Angela's mom just as annoying. Getting weepy and bringing in third parties is an even more annoying way to deal with an annoying person than just being snide back at them. I can't WAIT to see the Angela-Jeffrey snark next episode.

The editing was well done to make Laura likeable in this episode, I think. It was kind of funny how Uli's and Laura's moms both had the same very unusual shades of hair as their kids, though, is it natural or did they dye it for the show or what?

Maria (Maria), Friday, 25 August 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

God both Angela's mother and Jeffrey were annoying, people. It's really not a black and white issue. Jeffrey was being a lame little dickhead who didn't want to have anything to do with Angela (who tried to exacerbate the problem herself, lovely) and went in with prejudice against Angela's mother. He behaved like an angry child. He was the designer though and he did try to pick out colors based on her suggestions. Sorry that outfits that are anything besides "what I brought with me to wear on the street" aren't ok with the woman but then maybe she shouldn't have come on the show, knowing what the challenge would be. Bringing in the third parties and sniping behind Jeffrey's back (as far as I could tell, she DIDN'T really bring up her "concerns" with the colors prior to Tim asking her, Jeffrey seemed genuinely shocked that his refusing to put freaking green on her with the other colors was so upsetting) was really manipulative and stupid.

That being said, Jeffrey is still the most wrong in the fight and he shouldn't have acted like an 8 year old about the whole thing. I hope he and Angela start pummelling each other at some point though.

I am not even sure who I'd like to win. Obviously it is completely stacked in Michael and Uli's favors at this point in the game. Jeffrey is basically a complete asshole, Angela is a harridan with really questionable taste, Kayne is a barely-even-tolerable-to-watch backstabber whose taste is also becoming more and more obviously questionable, Vincent is just balls-out insane, and Laura is a busybody who makes the same outfit every week. I wish Malan and Bradley would come back, regardless of their actual abilities. I like Jeffrey and Laura better than the other two assholes on the show because they're a lot more honest about being total dicks, which is better than nothing.

There's nothing much to say about the clothing from the last episode because pretty much every outfit was pretty boring, and none were really particularly AWFUL in my opinion. Tho yeah Great Pumpkin etc.

Allyzay knows where the interfacing goes. (allyzay), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

The editing was well done to make Laura likeable in this episode, I think. It was kind of funny how Uli's and Laura's moms both had the same very unusual shades of hair as their kids, though, is it natural or did they dye it for the show or what?

I don't know, but Laura's mom looked exactly like my grandmother on my mom's side.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

i liked michael's kimono shirtdress, though i didn't expect it to win. i would wear that.

i hope that either jeffrey or angela get voted off soon because the drama between them is just stupid. i don't fucking care--just design something interesting, ffs. which neither of them did this week.

Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

green might have looked better than the colors he picked. he doesn't seem to have a v good sense of color. (nor do robert or kayne or angela or laura.. maybe bradley and uli do?) kara janx's runway collection last season had all these great colorblock dresses..

dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

LOL @ putting mics on all teh momses.

Jimmy Mod: THE HANDLESS ORGANIST (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

how about Laura's mom finding out on camera that she'll have to babysit one more neglected brat soon? PRICELESS.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

"Five, six, seven...one more doesn't make much difference, just throw him onto the pile."

Maria (Maria), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

ha! I kind of love Laura.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

i do too, but sometimes i wonder what her family life must be like. not in a negative way, just that it's so very unlike mine, and i'm curious. (and dude i'd love to hear her reaction to the forbes article!)

Maria (Maria), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

OMG does she have a Mr. Mom husband? That would be cuet.

captain reverend gandalf jesus (nickalicious), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

It sort of helped to see her mom. It was like, these people are just kind of from a different planet than I am.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

how about Laura's mom finding out on camera that she'll have to babysit one more neglected brat soon? PRICELESS.

THAT WAS SO AWESOME

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Friday, 25 August 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

I thought she was going to give her daughter the karate thumb to the eye and then do an Iron Sheikh kick on her!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 25 August 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

apropos of nothing, youn and I saw/overheard classic NYC kid moment last wknd - dad is trying to teach ~6-year-old daughter to ride bike on sidewalk. dad is trying to keep kid straight, on seat, etc. agitated kid with cockeyed helmet is trying to stay balanced while dad interferes, says in exasperated rising tone: "Daddy, do you understand that you're hurting me?!"

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 25 August 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

I am very proud to have named one of my fantasy football teams "The Jubilee Jumbles."

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 25 August 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Two points:

1- Don't be a shit to someone else's mother. I don't care who it is. It's just bad form. That being said, I hate both Penishead and Horseface in equal measure. Sidenote: Angela totally had the VagBag on Laura's mom (see above).

2- I am not blown away with anyone this year (which is a bummer). I have never once said, "well, godDAMN!" this season with any of the clothing (behavior yes, clothing no). Uli's stuff is pretty and well done, but I fear she too is a one trick pony, but of the hippy-dippy bohemian sensibility, which isn't all bad, is just boring when it's done week after week.

I hate to say it, but now that goofy Bradley's out, I'm not feeling any empathy. I just don't love any of them. Hopefully, that'll change.

molly d (mollyd), Friday, 25 August 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

I miss Keith.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 25 August 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

The way toddlers walk is so cute. Either there were flower petals strewn all over the green (and he walked amongst them), or too much Dr. Pepper is causing hallucinations.

youn (youn), Friday, 25 August 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

I wore a sash today. I hope that's considered high fashion. Unfortunately, it was not made of satin or silk but cotton and with a paisley pattern.

youn (youn), Friday, 25 August 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

i was praying angela would put laura's mom in a rosetted poo-catcher skirt.

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 25 August 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

Jeffy: "just another dissatisfied customer, that's all." Yeah, but how are you going to get established if you treat your clients like that (which incl. not really communicating in the first place; obv. "matronly" was at least as much of a concern as fave colors). Once you do get to the toppermost of the poppermost, then you can shit on people in the valley(motivation!). Shouldn't there be grading for this sort of thing? of course the judges didn't see it, but they heard enough on the runway. But notice it says at the end that grading also includes input from producers, or something, so it's The Puck Principle, named afterthe first Real World's resident bike messenger: you gotta have a troll to roll, etc etc. Otherwise, it does tend to be boring, despite some nice dresses--but sometimes things are busted for being too boring, more often for being too far out; then again, herrre's Vincent. (Gogh Man Gogh!)

don (dow), Saturday, 26 August 2006 00:27 (nineteen years ago)

This episode was weird because there was mixed motivation for the moms/sisters. They presumably want their offpspring/sibling to win, so they had a built-in motivation to sabotage their designer. On the other hand, this was their 5 minuts of fame, a walk down the runway, and they wanted to look good on TV, too.

Did you notice that penisneck's mom said he used to be an alcoholic, but he said he used to be a junkie? Penisneck and Angela's mom were a match made in hell. Whoever upthread said she should be more assertive by now cuz she's a mom is off the money -- peeople don't necessarily gain in confidence with age. She probably would have never opened her mouth to penisneck if Tim hadn't been asking her opinion without him there. Jeff is just screamingly insecure that his whole house of rock and roll cards topples the minute anyone questions him at all. What a jerk. His mom seemed pretty awful too. Tight-lipped denial lady.

I don't hate Laura, but man I wouldn't want to be her kid and hear her say "what does it matter, just another kid to toss on the pile."

Maria :D (Maria D.), Saturday, 26 August 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

I don't hate Laura, but man I wouldn't want to be her kid and hear her say "what does it matter, just another kid to toss on the pile."

If I was her son at fifteen, I'd be all YOU SUCK MA; if I was her son at thirty I'd be all HA HA HA HA YOU ROCK MOMZ.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Saturday, 26 August 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

I think I've come around to the Vincent camp. He may be my favorite now.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Sunday, 27 August 2006 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

anyone been in teh French Connection lately? I'm not finding it on their website but they have a black silk miniskirt and 3/4 sleeve tunic top adorned at the hem and neckline with.. little rosettes.

dar1a g (daria g), Sunday, 27 August 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

sweet jesus, no.

molly d (mollyd), Sunday, 27 August 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

model Amanda = hotttt

milo z (mlp), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

I actually really loved Vincent's gown tonight. It was my favourite after Jeffrey's. Oh well.

Also, the Parisian models totally put the PR models to shame (besides Jia, Marilinda, and maybe Nazri).

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 7 September 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Vincent's dress was nice to look at, but a couture dress should be handsewn, hand-everything, and his dress was one big beautiful pile of glue and no detailing whatsoever.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 7 September 2006 05:17 (nineteen years ago)

catherina malandrino is so ungodly beautiful. I sound like Vincent! I like that her comments on his card were "no no no no no"

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 7 September 2006 06:11 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Kayne's best.

Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

Jeffrey's dress was a huge fucking disaster. It looked like someone with ulcers threw up aa mound of butter.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Thursday, 7 September 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

MugatuMichael Kors has a pretty obvious crush on Jeffrey, eh! He and KatinkaCatherina should duke it out over who gets to put a big hickey on the ink.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

It definitely seems like the fix is in for Michael. His couture gown was godawful, but the judges gave him advice on fixing the bodice right there on the runway and then were all "ahh, mmm, see that looks completely different." (I'm rooting for him too, but still.)

Danny Aioli (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

That contest was kind of neat to watch because they judged according to how designers themselves wish their stuff was judged in the papers post-awards ceremony. Obv Jeffrey's outfit was pretty 50/50 as to whether its wearer would have ended up on the best or worst dressed pages, but I suspect couture cognoscenti respect that about 70Kx more than they respect style journalists or the fucking Riverses.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

Michael did get a bit of a pass on this one but again, the judges this time around are sympathetic to the cause of fitting and rebuilding couture gowns, this round was all about how hard you tried and where you went with it. I mean the only requirements were "lots of hand-sewing, lots of detail" and from there it's wherever you decided to take it. Vincent lost his marbles about halfway through.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

And Laura was fucking lucky Vincent used so much glue and showed off all his model's tits all over the place or she would have been toast.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 7 September 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Laura's dress was HIDEOUS.

I can't believe Vincent spent all that smack talking about how he trained in couture and then broke out a bottle of glue.

Michael's dress was bad but at least he actually sewed detail into it as opposed to gluing nonsense on it.

Kayne's dress looked fantastic on television; I have no idea how it would have come across in real life but the camera totally loved it, possibly because the lens/lighting combo toned down the top.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Vincent's dress was dreadful - it really fit funny and it did look like a couch. My friend has a gold thrift store treasure of a sectional sofa that looks alarmingly similar to the skirt of Vincent's dress. And I'm really not opposed to wearing couch-like things, but the sleeves were bizarre, too. The angles were all wrong, like a nightmare where you're in a house but it's really a bowling alley and none of the walls are straight and the floor is warped like a roller coaster track.

Michael did get a pass, but God how awful would it have been if, after all the amazing things he's sent down the runway, he was out because he gambled and lost while The Gluemaster once again sent an ill-fitting piece of junk out there and got to stay? I would have cried!

Laura's dress was pretty rough, but I'm glad she got to stay for personal reasons - I've grown rather fond of her and her 42 year old pregant gut hanging out there.

I have to say... Kayne's was probably my favorite, too. It was kind of busy up top, but it was so flowy and pretty and the back was awesome. It looked better on his Parisian model than that chatty American woman.

Hmmm... Dan P and I are almost Project Runway twinz.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 7 September 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

The back of Kayne's dress was beautiful, the front, not so much.

I would never wear Jeffrey's dress but that really isn't what this challenge was about and I like what he did.

Laura -- UH wtf

I think claiming there is a "fix" in for Michael because he's sent one (1) kind of crappy thing down the runway and they didn't kick him off is kind of balls out insane, considering how much shit Kayne has sent down the runway yet has been kept around because he can construct things really well. See also: how long freaking Robert and Angela were kept around.

Vincent's dress was really, really badly fitted. On one hand I feel bad about that situation for all the designers because, uh, YEAH, the models in Paris were not the same women as in NY! So expecting these people to create a couture handmade tailored to a model dress in two days and expect it to show on two different models within that time frame is like completely sadistic. That being said, everyone else managed to refit their dress okay enough and Vincent's fit kind of poorly to begin with.

Uli's dress was really pretty and you can tell she thought she was going to win. Everything she designs though looks like her entire line would rightfully be called "Uma Thurman's Cast Off Oscar Gowns".

Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (allyzay), Thursday, 7 September 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

yes, vincent's dress fit was horrible. he is stuck in this 80's does 40's thing - the top was very 40's, but badly made. has he paid attention to fashion since about 1988? I don't see any signs of it

uli's dress was gorgeous and she should've won. not that I don't appreciate what jeffrey did, it was really fun.. but.. eh, just a matter of taste.

I didn't dislike laura's. it's laura. it was much better in paris, but the judges were right, has been done before.

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 7 September 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

When Vincent was kicked off, I knew, I just knew, that in his exit interview he'd use the words "401K" and "got me off." Still, I'm a bit sad to see him go. He kind of grew on me. I would've preferred to see Laura go. It pains me to see an older woman in her first trimester going through this stress and I know that every garment she puts out will have basically the same neckline whereas Vincent's pieces could be surprising. She'll probably go next.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to see Ulli make something with a waist.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

The problem with Laura's is that I'm really, really sick of that neckline from her, and the neckline didn't stand up to the transportation--it did look better in Paris than in NY.

The problem with Uli's dress is that it's the same dress she always makes but in a different color. They've gotten onto so many people for that this season, and I think that cost her points with the NY judges. She was the one Malandrino gave the highest scores to though, no? It was a nice dress but, I don't know, I'd like to see her even go, like, knee-length or something.

It does seem like from all the ads that Laura is next to go, doesn't it? But they love to do that and fuck with people. So I bet that means Kayne is next to go, because there's pretty much no way the top three aren't Michael, Uli, and Jeffrey, unless one of those three like has a horrible accident or something.

Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (allyzay), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Challenge after Olson Twins, if they are both still there: Laura and Uli have to design outfits that the judges would think the OTHER designer would make. See whose head explodes first.

Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (allyzay), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

malandrino

Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

throws a lame party

Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

has he paid attention to fashion since about 1988?

SHOULDER PADS. every single design he does seems to have some element of the 80s in it. and not in a good way.

i like ally's idea about a laura/uli challenge.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

As I said over on the sandbox's ILX thread last week, it's very hard for me to muster much feeling about the remaining group of designers. I'm rooting for Michael as I have been since the coffee filter dress, and I like him, but the rest - ehhh. Kayne should have been out a long, long time ago, Laura just isn't going to do anything surprising (the equivalent of Top Chef's Dave), Jeffrey's obviously a dick but I just don't care anymore. I really wish that Keith, Malan, and Alison were still in this thing (and Bradley, but there's just no way that could have ever happened) - then at least I would be confident of really seeing different garments every time.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 7 September 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

That's why I was rooting for Vincent to make it to the top 3. At the very least, his garments are interested and he loves to take risks and add odd little details to his work that seem to go over the heads of everyone. He didn't always hit the mark, but I think he was unfairly maligned thoughout his stay on the show.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

I actually thought Jeffrey's dress was fun and appropriate to the challenge, but there's no way he would have won without his stateside model Marilinda. She worked the fuck out of that dress on the runway for real.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

i like ally's idea about a laura/uli challenge.

I would like to see the same thing from jeff and michael.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

I think I've seen Jeff's dress in medical textbooks about bloody bowels.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

You're thinking massive liver damage. I still liked it.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 7 September 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

My sister had a good point. Why would one need to cash in their 401k to go on a reality show? I mean, did he need the money to get a plane ticket to the try outs? If so, doesn’t that mean his 401k is like $300?

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Thursday, 7 September 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

I think he cashed in his 401K so his family would have money to live off of while he was on a reality show not earning a paycheck.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Thursday, 7 September 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

i didnt realize he had a family!!! EEW!!!! he has spawned!?!?

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Thursday, 7 September 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

"I could have told you, Vincent,
this show was never made for one as crazybeautiful as you..."
I'm a gonna miss his very weird, pained smile/grimace.
I wish Malan could come back.
MariaD OTM about Uli making something with a waist.
The empire waist is so not flattering to anyone with, um, boobs bigger than a 32A.
The pencil necked geek, aka Jeffrey...he's a jerk, but his dress was really wonderful. As was his model.yes, it's a throwback, but it looked more like a "runway/couture" dress that would appear in the style pages than anyone else's offerings.
Laura keeps designing for herself, which is the same problem Angela had, except Laura knows how to sew.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Friday, 8 September 2006 10:55 (nineteen years ago)

VINCENT COME ON DOWN

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 8 September 2006 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

hah! 2-4-6-8 who are you supposed to hate? V1NC3NT

dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 8 September 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

jeffrey = hissing prig
laura = static couture

a prophecy of teh final TWO????

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 8 September 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

laura's out next week

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 8 September 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

she finally got called out for being boring last week, plus she's gonna freak out because she's HABBING ANUBBA BABY

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 8 September 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the teaser for next week made it look like Laura and her pregnant belly can't handle the pressure.

Also, 2 DAYS to make a couture dress? That's almost as absurd as Vincent's final product. I'm glad he's gone. He was getting mighty cocky during this last episode! Poor insecure dude, trying to over-compensate. Sad.

molly d (mollyd), Friday, 8 September 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

no, kayne out next week, I betcha

dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 8 September 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

That's what I'm betting too.

Allyzay is cool: with Blue n White, with Eli Manning, with NY Giants (allyzay), Friday, 8 September 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Sadly, it's quite possible (I love Kayne, uber-tackiness and all). They may be trying to throw us for a loop with all of Laura's "I can't take this anymore!" drama.

molly d (mollyd), Friday, 8 September 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Thinking about the imminent fashion week shows, here's how I rank in order of whose collections I anticipate most:

Michael
Jeffrey
Laura
Uli
Kayne

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Friday, 8 September 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

malan is showing at the metropolitan pavillion at 11am on monday. thinking about going. but i rsvp'ed for the daniel franco show at 3pm on monday. anyone want to go?

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 8 September 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Jeffrey
Michael
Uli
Laura
Kayne

Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Friday, 8 September 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

The, the... thing on the back of Vincent's gown: I blame it on the ghost of Angela!

Also, I was watching this with someone who had already seen it, and he kept misleading me and made me think Michael would get kicked off this episode, and I actually teared up

emilys. (emilys.), Sunday, 10 September 2006 06:52 (nineteen years ago)

I bet Michael's going to do a Daniel Vosovich -- get into the final 3, be the critics'/judges' darling until then, and then come up with something underwhelming. Of the ones left, Jeffrey might be the most interesting, though the biggest jerk. I wish Alison had made it to the end. I would've have liked to see her collection. I'm curious about what Jay McCarroll will show at fashion week. It should be Kayne and Laura out next, the exact order doesn't matter. If either of them make it to the end, I'll eat my hat. Although maybe fashion week could use a little Kayne. Just imagine what he'd do if he could.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Sunday, 10 September 2006 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ritachu.com/jon/Pictures/weirdal/alshow/ep3604-prodigy_al.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 11 September 2006 02:16 (nineteen years ago)

I hope Malan comes back for a guest appearance.

Super Cub (Debito), Monday, 11 September 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

Just testing here, plz ignore.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 11 September 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

he kept misleading me and made me think Michael would get kicked off this episode

That is unbelievably cruel!

So did anyone mention Jeffrey's tattoo on here and I missed it? That's his son's name: Harrison Detroit. Underneath it says "love of my life" in Italian but rumor on the internets is that he spelled it wrong.

I don't know Italian so cannot check, but I do hope so much that he spelled it wrong. I am a little relieved that he didn't have "Detroit" tattooed on his neck because of a fondness for the city. Not that there's anything wrong with Detroit, but on your neck?

I also hope that his poor son didn't get his father's uncanny resemblance to a penis, poor child.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

That broken image was actually supposed to be this:

he kept misleading me and made me think Michael would get kicked off this episode

That's unbelievably cruel!

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

LOL @ RUNWAI TWIST

Jimmy Mod's Champion Erotic Fantasy Team 2006 (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 14 September 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

OMG!! CRAZY!!!

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 14 September 2006 01:23 (nineteen years ago)

LOL @ A DUCK BEING A DUCK

Jimmy Mod's Champion Erotic Fantasy Team 2006 (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 14 September 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

The twist was fun for a minute but kind of a non-starter - was anybody in any suspense at all? Who else won challenges but didn't make it far enough to qualify for re-entry? Bradley? Mehhh.

As for the dresses this time - I really didn't see whatever it was the judges saw in Laura's dress that made it so youthful and modern. It looked to my eyes remarkably similar to a dress she herself was wearing a few episodes ago! Yawn. I was happy for her, though, as dull as she is she does her schtick well and should give herself credit for it. And I certainly know more people who would choose to wear Laura's clothes than Kayne's or Jeffrey's. But Michael was robbed.

Speaking of which - I know I've been crossing my fingers for Kayne's departure for ages, but Jeffrey deserved to go this time. The judges seem so out of touch! Jeffrey's problem isn't that he can't go beyond "edgy," it's that he can't go beyond Hot Topic! The POS he sent down the runway...augh. It's not clear to me whether Kayne got the axe because his dress was bad and betrayed wack ideas about how to do "tasteful" (which it did) or because he failed on technical grounds to complete the challenge.

For as close as we are to the end, and for the presence of a potentially major twist, this was a surprisingly dull episode. :( And they torment us with a little thumbnail of Alison in the poll! :( x 2.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 14 September 2006 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

I make beautiful music

Jimmy Mod's Champion Erotic Fantasy Team 2006 (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 14 September 2006 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

In other news wrt teh models, jefry's model has to be the hands-down winner in the end innit?

Jimmy Mod's Champion Erotic Fantasy Team 2006 (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 14 September 2006 02:41 (nineteen years ago)

In terms of what? Foxiness? Making doe-eyes at their respective designesr? She definitely works hard, I'll give her that. I remain partial to Nazri (sp?), Michael's model.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 14 September 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

the's the only one who totally pwns teh runwai

Jimmy Mod's Champion Erotic Fantasy Team 2006 (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 14 September 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

The only incorrect cut so far this year has been Allison. She deserved a second chance and never received one. It was Kayne's time to go.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 14 September 2006 05:39 (nineteen years ago)

The next episode should be good. Michael will surely make the final three, but of the the other three, any one of them could be cut.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Thursday, 14 September 2006 06:11 (nineteen years ago)

The twist was fun for a minute but kind of a non-starter - was anybody in any suspense at all?

Not for one second. Re-introducing those two was cruel to the contestants and not even any fun for the viewers. OF COURSE they weren't going to be able to hold their own. They never could. Laura's speech to Angela was probably unnecessary given the circumstances, but not incorrect. Everyone knows that the only reason she won that challenge was because of Michael and Laura. And the reason Jeffrey won that challenge was because... actually, I'm stumped on this one. I hated that outfit more than most of the other crap he's turned out. Why accentuate a middle-aged woman's growing gut? What's good about that, for anyone involved?

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Thursday, 14 September 2006 06:24 (nineteen years ago)

its useless trying to figure the reasoning for a cut or win based on the designers work. check the second last frame of each show where it says 'elimation decisions are based on judges scores and input from producers and bravo'. in any case, laura's win seemed like a pity vote (although her dress was decent) considering she was the only one there who hadnt won.

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

And the reason Jeffrey won that challenge was because... actually, I'm stumped on this one. I hated that outfit more than most of the other crap he's turned out. Why accentuate a middle-aged woman's growing gut? What's good about that, for anyone involved?

I'm assuming you mean Vincent here....Jeffrey won the jet-set challenge and the couture challenge. I really thought Vincent's "everyday woman" dress was okay - glued-on collar or no.

My friend Mark and I were talking last night and he pointed out that for the finals, Laura and Uli are effectively competing for the same slot. They're both the "predictable" designer with a signature aesthetic - you know what their full spread is going to look like. Jeffrey always does the same genre of crap, but the dresses are individual designs. And Michael, of course, takes each dress as a new piece - which may be a handicap! Does he need the narrow rigidity of the challenges to produce excellent work? Does he have a signature "style" beyond being really fucking good?

But anyway - either Laura or Uli has to go next to make the final anything but a total snoozefest, and I'm beginning to suspect it's going to be Uli. I liked her for a long time but her gowns have grown stale and more importantly she has no personality arc. Laura's mood swings and arch attitude make her some fusion of Dave and Tiffany from Top Chef - there's something to work with there. Uli hasn't had any fights or much face time, and the judges have gotten tired of her. I think it's bye-bye.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

It was nice to see Angela and Vincent brought back last night so they could crash and burn, as per usual.

molly d (mollyd), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'm assuming you mean Vincent here


duh. Yeah, of course, thank you.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

LOL at the respective sendoffs for Vincent and Angela!

"Angela, we respect your talent and wish you the best. Auf wiedersehn."
"Vincent. Auf wiedersehn."

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Thursday, 14 September 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

Is "taste level" a term introduced by PR?

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 14 September 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

I had a hard time hearing the judges kvetch about Kayne's taste level when Jeffrey dressed his model like one of the Cinderella video girls but, somehow, tackier. And I'm assuming that Jeffrey is being edited to up his hateful quotient but dear lord the man makes my skin crawl.

Laura, on the other hand, is becoming dear to me and I hope she is in the final three. I still want Michael to win, though, because he's awesome in all ways.

I agree it was kind of cruel to bring Angela and Vincent back just to toss them out again, but it was nice to see how irrationally upset Jeffrey was to see Angela. I think he's actually in love with her. Only love engenders that kind of firey hot hate.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 14 September 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Party Time! Totally OTM.

Everyone seems to have their own schtick which they don't seem to deviate from at all, except maybe, Michael. Kayne, however, seemed to do just that last night and he still ended up getting shitcanned. I just don't get it.

And how sweet is Michael to come over and help sometimes tragically tacky Kayne?

molly d (mollyd), Thursday, 14 September 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

Laura's dress was gorgeous. sorta Rochas a couple seasons ago, that lace? beautiful cut.

wow, did I hate Jeffrey's dress. I'm sorry, his whole aesthetic was maybe sorta still fresh 25 years ago. MAYBE. what a reactionary. rock is so conservative.

Didn't like the cut of Uli's - those sleeves! too much. or the print.

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 14 September 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Kayne was gone as soon as he bought those fabrics. I like how Tim Gunn plainly didn't want to give Angela any constructive advice whatsoever so as to make sure she wz dead & buried.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 14 September 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

uli is totally predictable and its time for her to go. michael has this in the bag.

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Thursday, 14 September 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

And mein gott, Jeffrey needs to stop describing everything as "LA" and "rock and roll."

This everything bagel with lox and cream cheese is totally rock and roll. This $1 off dishwasher soap coupon is so LA.

GAH.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 14 September 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

He should become snuggle buddies with Axl Rose.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Thursday, 14 September 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Poor Axl. What did he ever do to you (besides sing a racist song)?

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Thursday, 14 September 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

basically all of the dresses besides michael's in this challenge were very uninspired or cheap looking. laura's was ok, but i think that i saw it at kohls last time i was there.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Thursday, 14 September 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

I had a hard time hearing the judges kvetch about Kayne's taste level when Jeffrey dressed his model like one of the Cinderella video girls but, somehow, tackier.

lol, i was like "where's bon jovi?"

maybe my taste level isn't high enough, but i actually thought (the front of) Kayne's dress was really cute

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 14 September 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

though there was something sort of amateurish-seeming about the sleeve. maybe i just think amanda looks cute in anything.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 14 September 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Jeffrey's was the worst other than Vincent and Angela, but he's finished in the top 2 far more often than Kayne, and it would be a mistake to get rid of him, imo.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 14 September 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure if anyone else obsessively scours the video archives on bravotv.com like me, but they do have "previews" for the next episode available that let a little bit more on than the clip run during the ending credits does.

We've got Jeffrey confessing a little bit of respect for Uli and running around the workroom in her design in-progress - a typical Uli print albeit in a color we haven't seen from her before. Is she going to differentiate enough to squeak through, so we can see 12 of the same dresses coming down the runway at Fashion Week? Definitely worth checking out.

mark herbkersman (marktronix), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

If only Jeffrey were in love with Angela. They could've really used some sexual tension on this show -- all the more reason to mourn Alison's departure. Every time they pop a bottle of champagne, it seems like a real snoozefest. I keep thinking they're going to get to go to some fabulous party and then it's just them again standing around with drinks making lame small talk. How could they call Malandrino and crew on a boat "throwing a party"? The assignment is cocktail dress, so we'll just have one uncomfortable drink in an empty bar? They can do better.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

The look on Angela's face was funny when she was found out about stuffing all the scraps in the purse.

I respect Laura for speaking her mind and calling out Angela for the group win, especially in this case. Laura's crying bit and moment of insecurity was totally preggers hormones talking, I bet. She probably would just be napping if she could. The first trimester is tiring.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

i dont understand how this works timing wise, since the PR runway show is tomorrow morning at 9am. Then won't everyone already know the final 3 / winner / etc before the last episode?

phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yes.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

Also the top 4 get to show at fashion week but only the top 3 are broadcast because at the time of filming they don't know who the top 3 will be.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

No. They trick everyone by having the four place winner also designing and presenting in the show. Austin Scarlett, for example, designed a line and was part of the Season 1 show (there are tons of clues to this on the bonus features even though they don't explicitly state it) even though obv it was edited out of the finale that was shown.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

I am pretty sure they do know at the time of filming who the top three will be though.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

I mean the sequence where Austin got eliminated looks to me like it is happening concurrently with the original competition, not something that was filmed 5 months later during the runway show.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Is there a "handwaving away details that make you look bad" emoticon? I could use one right now.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Thursday, 14 September 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

this season is a lot less fun. season one, they partied all the time.. and whenever it was at a club/bar there were lots of people. there was a hilarious bit in the reunion episode of S1 where Heidi presents "Project Drunkway"

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 14 September 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

okay has anyone seen the runway photos on getty images? im a little worried about michael knight.... there's some serious gold lamé

i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Friday, 15 September 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Pls link!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 September 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

uhoh. jeffrey's are good. probably the best. i really dont want him to win.


http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/Product.aspx?p=3&e=0&pg=1&am=-1

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 15 September 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

jeffrey's seem to be the best... laura's actually look very good as well, possibly my second favorite.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

i'm sadly underwhelmed by the final collections in general.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

That red thing in Jeffrey's collection is HIDEOUS!

Uli's collection seems like it's the mos coherent (SHOCKER that the woman of one dress is the only one sending down a coherent vision).

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

the 1950's swimming costume or the dress?

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

I am not impressed. Nothing here comes remotely close to Jay's and Kara Saun's collections from Season 1.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Everyone seems to have done a bathing suit (maybe a requirement) except Laura, which makes me think she didn't make it to the final 3. Also why does Uli have Michael's model, Nazri?

eatadick.com (Carey), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

VELVET BAG

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

some of the other photo sets on getty's site are odd. are the presets that interesting that they sent a getty photographer to their miami show to cover it?

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

check out the wiggles 15th anniversary set.

i watched the heidi klum jewelry hour on QVC yesterday. she sold out so quick they cut the show short by 30 minutes. it was really ugly jewelry too. all clovers and shit.

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

I like individual pieces out of some of these.. dunno, would put jeffrey and uli above laura and michael as far as "collection" goes. laura's wasn't very spring or very fresh. michael, I don't care for that aesthetic, so I don't know, it seems inspired by a lot of designers I personally don't care for. the white top + shorts are lovely and the safari dress, nice. jeffrey, a lot better than I expected, though I don't like any of the pieces with polka dots. uli, not bad, except.. it's like she chose a nude to match the silver, but the nude is the skin color of miami people who go tanning all the time so it looks bad, a different (lighter) shade would've been much better maybe?

dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I glanced. Don't see a clear winner, but personally I rate Michael>Jeffrey>Laura>Uli.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

and laura's really aren't my style

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

strangely this is prob my favorite look out of all of them. (jeffrey!)

michael's looks are so not my bag. but, again, totally different aesthetic. he's going to be v successful.

dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Haha Dar1a, I love how PSYCHED the model is to be wearing that!

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Jeffrey's still the most interesting, but Michael's simplicity works for me.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

it also looks like Michael destroyed Uli at her own game

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that girl doesn't look happy, but the outfit is damn cool. so are jeffrey's skinny jeans (yeah, I know, dated, whatevs) with very pale silver tops. I just like the colors he used a whole lot. ixnay on the mega striped dress, though, and all stuff with the red polka dots. I bet he wins

you know, I get the impression one thing abt michael is he usually designs for curvier silhouette and then when he has to work with runway model figure, it's just off.

dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

I love that megastriped dress!Both of them (the green one and the black/red/offwhite one). And that bag! And that jacket with the silver shirt and skinny jeans! And that babydoll dress! Excellent collection.

It's between Jeffrey and Uli IMO. Michael's collection... OMG. Those belts... what was he thinking? There are some great pieces (I love the Uli-style print gown, it's goregous. And I like that fuschia short-thing and the short white dress).

Laura's collection is good, but I can't get over all of those garish rhinestones she pull all over the gowns. Ugh.

I love, love, LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE Uli's collection. LOVE!!


The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 15 September 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

I decided not to look at these this year.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 15 September 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

look at Jay McCarroll's collection then? it is a treat!

so much fun!
this too

dar1a g (daria g), Saturday, 16 September 2006 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah it's excellent. Much better than I'd expected.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Saturday, 16 September 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

jay blows everyone on that show out of the water. except kara janx, who is also lots of fun, but hasn't done a big collection like this yet

dar1a g (daria g), Saturday, 16 September 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Jay's collection looks awesome.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Saturday, 16 September 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Jay's is very nice - I love the semi-scandinavian pattern stuff - but I could do without the Karen O-type stuff.

Lots of people seem to like Uli's and be disappointed by Michael's. I admit I don't really think about and can't really get my head around what it would be like to wear them, but I fail to get it here. Yeah, Uli's longer dresses are nicer than I thought on initial inspection, but they're still a little gaudy, and those short dresses look like the girls are wearing towels. Meanwhile, the objection to Michael's seems to be a) I'm too body-conscious to wear them, therefore they're bad, and/or b) they're too hiphop-flavored (i'll put it charitably), therefore they're bad.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 16 September 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

I actually like Laura's the best but that's because I'm a white woman in her 30s who is attracted to the works of Aubrey Beardsley and Edward Gorey.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 16 September 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

I just caught up with the last couple episodes over the weekend, and I guess all I have to say is that Jeffrey's model is my favorite model EVER. Everybody else kinda meanders down the runway, she is like DROP-KICKING with every step.

a naked Kraken annoying Times Square tourists with an acoustic guitar (nickalici, Monday, 18 September 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah Marilinda is fierce. She doesn't have the PRESENCE of Nazri, though. When Nazri step on the runway it's like... "Wow."

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Monday, 18 September 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

Ooooh:

http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/21688/

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 25 September 2006 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

Is this the LOTS OF BITCHES be getting kicked off the show season or something?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 25 September 2006 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

What's the schedule for the next 4 weeks?

This week: final challenge, top three revealed
Next week: reunion show?
Week after: Song and dance?
After week after: 2-hour Extravaganza?

c('°c) (Leee), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Final episode is the one where they all get to beat down Angela.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Monday, 25 September 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

there was a commercial where they alluded to not necessarily having the traditional final-3

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://fourfour.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/agape_angela.jpg

c('°c) (Leee), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

they leaked this out early for a reason, I suppose. I guess it means JS is in the final three though, if there is a final three, otherwise why would Laura even bother to protest.

dar1a g (daria g), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

they've alluded to not being dedicated to having only/at least three like 700 times over the course of the season so I don't think that's much to do with Jeffrey's possibly maybe rule breaking.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Are you all talking about spoilers? Spoilers which I hate?

c('°c) (Leee), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

I hate that I kind of want to be Angela's boyfriend. CRUSH OF SHAME OH NOES.

a naked Kraken annoying Times Square tourists with an acoustic guitar (nickalici, Monday, 25 September 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

maybe they'll try to push Top Chef on us one of those weeks? (I wonder if someone originally wanted to call it Top Toque?)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

they aren't spoilers, I mean the top 3 thing has been in the show nonstop and the Jeff article is speculative.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Monday, 25 September 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Yes! I was really worried this episode; I'm probably the only person here rooting for Jeffrey. As hard as I wanted to like his piece this week, though, it wasn't very good. The bottom was nicely done, but the top just didn't seem to fit with it.

Tape Store (Tape Store), Thursday, 28 September 2006 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

Dude I've been here reppin' for Noize Neck the whole time! The judges were a little bit harsh this episode, I think; put any one of the "bad" dresses on some celebutant and they'd be in the Fashion Star section of any of these magazines (NB this is not an endorsement per se of any of the dresses but probably more of a slam against Nina and whatsherface style writer). Michael's dress was a little much but I think it would've worked better on a better model (why in god's name did he choose that girl out of the remainders?).

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 28 September 2006 02:48 (nineteen years ago)

michael is easily the best out of the four

HUNTA-V (vahid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

i still like jeffrey too! i didnt think his dress was as terrible as the judges made it out to be.

also, i dont really understand why the judges were so into uli's dress. it was ok, but not great imo

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Thursday, 28 September 2006 03:30 (nineteen years ago)

they don't like jeffrey because jeffrey is a cornball.

HUNTA-V (vahid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 04:48 (nineteen years ago)

This episode was boring. All the clothes were boring, too.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

whatever you put on Nazri automatically gains about +15 WowSexy points. Michael's good but maybe not as good as she (and Robert's sister) have made him look, relative to the others. BTW interesting to see Uli pull her secret bitch move at the very end of the season!! Shazam!! Rude!!

the most disappointing thing at this point in the season is that we've seen the best from all these people now. There's no more surprises, Uli making a dress that ended higher than the ankle is the last of that.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

Maria how can you say this episode was boring when it had Jeffrey parading around in a tie-dyed hippie shawl saying "I feel so pretty!!"

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

Didja know that Bravo is developing a show called "Top Designer" ?
I think there should be a reality show called "Top Vagina".

aimurchie (aimurchie), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

I don't forsee any major squabbles between the designers as there had been on the final episodes of previous seasons. Oh well.

And yeah, the dresses were boring. Jeffrey's dress look like it had a potato sack attached to the bottom of it.

I AM SO BORED WITH ULI. Hippy dippy is not the style for me. Who wants to wear tye-dyed anyway?

molly d (mollyd), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

whatever you put on Nazri automatically gains about +15 WowSexy points.

O! T! M! I really don't think Uli would have won using a different model. Nazri took that vasted hippie dress and made it awesome. And her picture playing drums with the band was great and also 100% Nazri. It sucks that she's not Michaels model anymore because now, if I want Michael to win, I have to want Nazri to lose.

Life is so unfair sometimes.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think Nazri loses anything by having this amazing exposure to model scouts.
She's propelling her career, by choice!
As for the top designers, well:
Michael or Laura, IMHO, because they are good at their craft.
Michael because he can "switch it up" (please recall his coffee filter dress).
Thee Pencil Necked Geek, aka Jeff, is NOT proving anything except asshole under pressure.
Uli will make a bazillion dollars designing all that hippie stuff anyway.
Laura wins Top Vagina.
Michael better fucking win, or else.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Jeffrey should have been out. His dress was Angela revisited.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

except if angela had designed that dress, it would have been embellished with cargo pockets and accessorized with a floppy hat.

elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

I really liked Jeff's dress a lot but I also thought it was the worst of the four. It was a good week and they all deserved to stay, I thought.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

"I feel so pretty" was the highlight. Do I remember correctly that his sneaks matched the dress?

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 28 September 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

The task this week was somewhat contradictory -- be completely yourself but show us something surprising/different. It was set up to be lose-lose (either be accused of being one note (Laura) or be criticized for being too surprising (Jeffrey, Michael). Ulli rightfully won because she was the only one to walk the fine line - her dress was clearly an Ulli but had a different shape (although my favorite garment was actually Jeffrey's). They probably really wanted Michael to stay in the hip hop box. Laura would have won if she had made really classy leisure wear.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 28 September 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

I hate that I kind of want to be Angela's boyfriend. CRUSH OF SHAME OH NOES.

You're not the only one...(this is a "kick me" sign I'm placing on my back - use it well)

Richard Baez (Johnny Logic), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Even Tim's Take commands that Michael stick to "sportswear".

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

yeah 'KNOW YR PLACE SON' (except i did not love that dress really)

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

wtf that dress was good. the model wasn't the right shape for it tho

metonymus prime (rgeary), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

jeffrey is such a cockenheimer but i thought he should have gotten more credit for not even saying "rock n roll" about his dress

it still looked like an angela outtake, but still

metonymus prime (rgeary), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

laura should have gotten the boot for making the same effing dress week after week after damn week. horrible

metonymus prime (rgeary), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

jeffrey is such a cockenheimer but i thought he should have gotten more credit for not even saying "rock n roll" about his dress

When they said to pick three words, I predicted that Jeffrey's would be "rock and roll."

I don't think Nazri loses anything by having this amazing exposure to model scouts.

I actually hadn't thought of this and it makes me feel better. Which makes me think I'm a little too attached to this show.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

nina garcia + capri pants + high heels = HELLO NURSE

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

I remember thinking a few weeks ago that Michael seems to respond best to the really specific, limiting challenges - he becomes incredibly creative and presses right up against those limits. The coffee filter dress and Pam Grier are great examples. Given more open-ended "make a couture dress," "make your signature style" challenges, he seems a bit adrift. Maria is 100% OTM about the lose-lose quality of the challenge. It becomes much harder when the designer has trouble separating out three overriding themes of their work - I don't think anybody really managed to pull this off, although Laura came close. But "Sexy, Sensual, Sultry"? The point would be better made by just writing "Sexy, Sexy, Sexy" - at least then it would be clear that you were going for a very singular design.

Does anyone else think that the "everybody stays" twist was cooked up specifically because they had planned to kick off Uli and then found they had no justifiable way of doing so?

I'm not holding my breath that the reunion will be anything good. In Top Chef it was a genuinely unpleasant viewing experience, watching real people trapped in a room with hosts insistent on keeping them to their official story roles. Not easy when the show has elected to typecast you as "the bitch" and everybody else has decided to play along with the circus. Also, watch as people who were kicked out early try desperately to raise their profiles! (Looks like Malan will be sticking pretty close to his schtick, for example.)

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

I just want to see Tim Gunn take Keith the fuck apart

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

That's sad, dude.

xpost obviously. Malan showed at Fashion Week!

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

yeah what TMBT said. and hey Dr. C why are you all sad about Tiffani on Top Chef, if you're not a bitchy person then you won't have any bitchy clips for the big mean producers to air

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

I have to say that adding to the bullshit factor of this past challenge was the sudden "Oh, btw, forgot to tell you but you're done making your clothes now, you have to go play photographer for the rest of the day" aspect.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

Wouldn't it be hilarious if Malan won the "Fan Favorite" award?

I want Bradley Baumkirchner to win. I'm probably the only one.

molly d (mollyd), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

I voted for Jeffrey because someone has to.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

http://tdink.com/issue05/images/estrella/stacey.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Michael will obv win fan favorite, how could he not?

the top chef reunion was such a trainwreck, but drunk Stephen was 100% adorable

dar1a g (daria g), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

and hey Dr. C why are you all sad about Tiffani on Top Chef, if you're not a bitchy person then you won't have any bitchy clips for the big mean producers to air

Um...not sure how to respond to this really. It's reality TV, one, so we all know shit is created out of editing, and two, it's a bullshit gendered narrative anyway. Men "playing to win" and "not there to make friends" = strong competitor, smart, confident - woman with same lines = "bitch." There were a few specific points at which Tiffani actually did something genuinely rude or otherwise semi-evil, but as a general rule, when the editing, the ads, and the recap are beating it down your throat "REMEMBER WHEN TIFFANI WAS SUCH A BITCH?" it's a sign that there wasn't really all that much going on drama-wise and they had to make the most out of what they had. It works fine as entertainment but breaks down considerably when you get the people in "backstage" mode, brought in for a reunion, and they find out they're expected to play up to the role that's been crafted for them. It's all well and good for Dave to interrupt people and declare "I'm not your bitch, bitch" and get his airtime, because he knows he's been cast as the victim of her aggression and so he can win points by being loud and shouting over her. It's a no-win for Tiffani, who never did anything wrong on the show and has the sense of self to refuse to apologize and fulfill the script.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 28 September 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

Not easy when the show has elected to typecast you as "the bitch" and everybody else has decided to play along with the circus.

Everyone on the show thought she was a bitch. I mean, everyone. Did you even watch the show? I mean, sure, the producers created a character for her, and she's probably not nearly as bad as depicted, but she also was the least popular person on the show other than Ken among the actual contestants. She chose a Zulema-like approach of "business, not personal", but without Zulema's sense of humor or personal flair. During the reunion, even Harold, ever the politician, recoiled at her touch.

This is not to say that Dave isn't a piece of shit, because he quite certainly is.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 28 September 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

ok, how about the quick glimpse of laura's closet in the apt that was ALL BLACK AND WHITE and they awesomely had her pensively considering what to put on?! i love her so much...i want her as a lewd aunt.

Jimmy_tango (Jimmy_tango), Friday, 29 September 2006 00:13 (nineteen years ago)

nina garcia + capri pants + high heels = HELLO NURSE

OTM

and FUCK FUCK FUCK jeffrey. any ex-junkie who remains an asshole wasn't humbled enough by the experience. maybe he should have another go-round...

something less threatening (heywood), Friday, 29 September 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

laura's was ok, but i think that i saw it at kohls last time i was there.

omg. I had a argument with my sister about whether or not one of the judges on the show said this exact thing...and now I realize I was actually quoting Todd Swiss. :(

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Friday, 29 September 2006 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

Alison could easily be fan favorite.

Tape Store (Tape Store), Friday, 29 September 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7594/579/1600/fourkors.2.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 29 September 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

i love her so much...i want her as a lewd aunt.

I'm sorry. You want her as a what?

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 29 September 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

I had a argument with my sister about whether or not one of the judges on the show said this exact thing...and now I realize I was actually quoting Todd Swiss. :(

Why the saddy face? Todd Swiss is obviously the new Michael Kors.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 29 September 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

WHY hasn't this been shown on my TV for 2 weeks? NOOOO!

Maria (Maria), Friday, 29 September 2006 03:29 (nineteen years ago)

kenan, roxymusak... i dont know if i should be honored or disgusted :)

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Friday, 29 September 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone else think that the "everybody stays" twist was cooked up specifically because they had planned to kick off Uli and then found they had no justifiable way of doing so?

Yeah, actually.

I do hope that Malan's really an actor - can anyone really be that affected?

Richard Baez (Johnny Logic), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

i thought jeffery's dress was great, but I guess I'm the only one. that picture of her on the rickshaw looked straight out of the anthropologie catalogue. he still looks like a cock though

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

he still looks like a cock though

Literally. He really does look like a walking shrivelled penis.

Richard Baez (Johnny Logic), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

it was funny when jeffrey said something about his sewing bringing tears to people's eyes in the past

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Friday, 29 September 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Designers, you have 15 minutes. Please shove anything you're holding down your pants and head for the nearest exit.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 30 September 2006 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

Will you teach this rapidly aging no-longer-a-boy before it's too late and I slide into the inevitable bronzer, botox and inappropriate spandex hell awaiting all of us?

ell - oh - bloody - ell.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

and FUCK FUCK FUCK jeffrey. any ex-junkie who remains an asshole wasn't humbled enough by the experience. maybe he should have another go-round...

It's posts like this that have cropped up more and more often that make me really wonder why the hell I waste any time here at all?

kyle, I liked the dress too! Though yeah, wtf was he talking about with the sewing and crying thing?

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Saturday, 30 September 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

Michael has braces! Adorable. And that's what Vincent gets for fucking with Tim Gunn. Damn.

I wish they'd done a montage of Jeffrey saying "rock and roll."

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

can we caucus about this episode, guys?

this is some nutcase shit

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Thursday, 12 October 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, total craziness.

i really hope that jeffrey is innocent, but the previews dont look too promising in that regard.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Thursday, 12 October 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

That preview better have been a result of some great, tricky editing...

Tape Store (Tape Store), Thursday, 12 October 2006 02:07 (nineteen years ago)

i hope to hell he's guilty, and i like him

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Thursday, 12 October 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

I really don't care if he's guilty or not. I just want that cunt Laura to eat shit from the judges in the end. Jesus what a stuck-up insufferable bitch. She's not even funny.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 12 October 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, you're acting so goddamn horrible I wish ANGELA was in your place. For fuck's sake, go home and raise your brood and leave the rest of the world alone.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 12 October 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

It barely matters if Jeffrey wins because in his case it kind of is just money and a car. He's going to keep doing good business selling to $$$ clients whether Bravo's producers like him or not. Fuck 'em.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 12 October 2006 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

ooh ooh Allyzay just raised a good point; the reunion must have been filmed AFTER fashion week because they referenced Malan's showing there. Plus why single out JEFFREY (among others, but still) for a question about cheaters regarding Keith if he's getting booted for a similar infraction beforehand; and why the fuck would he be sitting next to Laura?

Unless they somehow did all the last episode and the reunion show in some insane timeframe I can't understand.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 12 October 2006 03:13 (nineteen years ago)

uh I'm done brushing my teeth now.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

but yeah--my opinion is that preview spoiler is BS (they all have been so far). Laura et al are clearly revising their Jeffrey stance at the end of ep tonight and yeah, reunion show was taped post-fashion week: I don't think Jeffrey would've laid into Keith for "cheating" if he was kicked off too--but weirder things have certainly happened, and perhaps Jeffrey is a better man than anyone else on the show (that actually wouldn't surprise me) and is willing to take the anti-"cheater" stance post kick-off. But...that seems a bit odd. So, whatevs, I don't buy he gets the boot next week. The preview seems to indicate some kind of psuedo apology from Laura about her "concerns" (ie her pregnancy manic depression, as far as today's ep made it look), and I wouldn't be surprised if the crying jag + hug was prefaced by a "THANK YOU TIM, YOU'VE SAVED MY LIFE" type uber-jeff-drama-statement that only a former junkie or alcoholic could really make with a straight face and then cry over.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

I appreciate that Jeffrey's the most inventive of the four, and I see more of the Japanese stuff he purports to be coming from now, but he still just doesn't quite do it for me. Part of it is style, but I also think of the thing he said about the models being blank slates for his work - yeah, Michael gets some extra, perhaps undeserved, mileage out of how good he is at the full package, but to throw styling out the window completely seems like a sort of snotty, passive-aggressive thing, like 'my work is only for people who get it on its own terms and doesn't depend on context.'

laura's work surprised me - it looks a lot better on tv, where you get more of the texture of the fabric. many of the pieces aren't my style, but i see the beauty in it now. she's gotten more annoying over the last few episodes, but i'm too amused/charmed by her sarcastic/ironic-self-deprecating new york voice (and her awesome-looking husband and apt) to dislike her. so she's insecure and doesn't get Jeffrey, big deal. like PR fans aren't constantly misprising people.

Uli on the other hand is seriously starting to get on my nerves. sorry, deutschland. and Miami.

in the end I'm still all about Mr. Michael Knight.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 12 October 2006 04:55 (nineteen years ago)

I love Michael Knight, but what I've seen so far looked bad.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 12 October 2006 05:09 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Michael seems to have somehow lost his way.

We can't really see what Laura is talking about to judge on our own, but that was a really nasty thing to do. Her charm and charisma can't hide the nastiness that lurks in the depths of her being.

Super Cub (Debito), Thursday, 12 October 2006 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

DAMMIT I MISSED THIS

Oh well, at least South Park was mad funny.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

My girlfriend works at a small boutique in town that gets a subscription to Women's Wear Daily. She said that the magazine had briefly covered fashion week. Since everyone already knew who the four were to make it to new york, they reviewed showings of each.

Apparently Jeffrey was reviewed in WWD as showing a strong collection. So I imagine he wasn't disqualified. We'll see; my girlfrind may have been mistaken.

Benjamin H (BillMartini), Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

the nastiness that lurks in the depths of her being

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

it's the new "bun in the oven"

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

Part of it is style, but I also think of the thing he said about the models being blank slates for his work - yeah, Michael gets some extra, perhaps undeserved, mileage out of how good he is at the full package, but to throw styling out the window completely seems like a sort of snotty, passive-aggressive thing, like 'my work is only for people who get it on its own terms and doesn't depend on context.'

gabbneb, what he is considering doing for his runway collection is styling for fuck's sake.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps because he is really young, it seems like Michael requires parameters to really shine. When he's given free reign to design whatever he wants he comes up with sequin pockets. I hope I'm wrong about this though, because he's probably the most talented of the final four.

pj (Henry), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently Jeffrey was reviewed in WWD as showing a strong collection. So I imagine he wasn't disqualified. We'll see; my girlfrind may have been mistaken.

I missed this; she wasn't mistaken, he did show at fashion week. That doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't disqualified (I mean, it'd be an obvious spoiler that he suddenly disappeared from the line-up since fashion week was a while back), but I can't really see how it would work to still let him show if he's kicked off for Laura's hormonal imbalancecheating. That seems very unfair, if he was indeed removed from the line-up.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

yr probly right pj, and i think there's a good chance he doesn't win for that reason

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

so what happened with the models that werent 'out'/ did they win something. i assume theyre using real models for fashion week.

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Well, they have other models for 11 of the outfits, but 1 outfit will be (was) modelled by each of the finalist models as well.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone think Laura doesn't actually believe that Jeffrey cheated? and that it won't reflect poorly on her, both in terms of winning and afterwards, if she's wrong? does anyone think he actually did cheat? i assume that the show seriously investigates, maybe shares laura's skepticism even while being skeptical of it, and ultimately declares that he did not, they reconcile, and he has a strong shot at winning (and that this whole thing might even have been played up by the show to give him a better narrative).

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

does the model of the winning designer win something in the end?

i think laura doubts herself and in more desperate moments looks for places the other contestants may have got an easy break or stepped outside the rules.

i dont like jeffrey at all but id never underestimate the obsessive super abilities of a junkie. ie i think he did it all by himself.

is it really that big a deal to sew 12 garments well in 2 months?

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Previous seasons the model won a spread in Elle magazine.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

1. I think she went into the episode, after spending the summer watching the edited television show, with a hard-on for Jeffrey (in fact, she makes it pretty explicit in the lead up to the accusation that she is bothered by him now), and overreacted to a "gut feeling." I also think, as stated earlier, her comments about how Jeffrey didn't react the way she thought (hoped?) he would seems to indicate a rethinking, and I would think that it implies she is turning to the idea that he DIDN'T cheat.
2. I don't think her accusation will cause her to lose a victory if she deserves to win, if that's what your question means. But I think it does make her look badly to the audience, if she is wrong.
3. I don't actually think he did cheat, I don't get that impression from his demeanor or from what he's shown so far in the show--keep in mind he's been doing this professionally for longer than most of the other finalists, and has been quite successful at it (look at the size of his space versus the other contestants, for instance--it'd definitely help getting things done in a more efficient fashion to be able to utilize all that space versus a small room in your house or apartment).
4. I think your assumption is 100% correct.


xpost I don't think it's really that big a deal if you know what you want to do and have experience doing that kind of thing on a larger scale than, say, Laura has had previously. Also lack of 27 8 year olds flinging turtle poop in your work space might help with the distraction level. Also, the model of the winning designer gets a full spread in Elle IIRC.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

does the model of the winning designer win something in the end?

do you go to sleep during heidi's "models, this also is a competetion for you too" "spread in elle magazine" "blah blah blah" bit at the beginning of every episode?

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Haha well really who wouldn't?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

They should really just replace Heidi with a naked Real Doll and let Tim Gunn do all the work.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

i didnt even realise there was a model comp until halfway through the season!

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

anyway the best thing i took away from the last episode was how downright charming tim was in everyone's homes and how damn tiny his car looked when he stood next to it

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

I was kind of blown away that Uli decided to hide the communists-don't-let-us-wear-bright-colors angle until this point.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

(or the producers did)

I think that if Laura had any shot at winning (and I doubted it in the first place), it was because of her personal characteristics on top of basic competence and taste level, but that the accusation likely torpedoes that. I hope Michael wins, but I don't think he's the favorite (I don't think there is one).

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

The producers didn't hide it unless you're accusing Tim Gunn of lying to Uli's face...? If it wasn't for his genuine surprise, right in conversation to her, I'd assume they just cut out any references to it until the heartwarming next-to-final episode family extravaganza.

I think Laura's final collection, from what I've seen of it online, is pretty good but I think she's going to get accused of doing same old, same old. IMO from what I've seen of the collections (which are very, very different from what was shown on the episode last night, strangely), Uli and Jeffrey should be considered strong favorites (Uli mainly because she actually has quite a few good-looking pieces that bear no resemblance to the Uli Muumuu).

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

I think it was news to Tim Gunn, but that doesn't mean she hadn't said it elsewhere before (not that they knew for sure she'd discuss it with him, I suppose, but I'm sort of cynical about these things since learning a guy I went to high school with "writes for a reality show"). I assume Uli or Jeffrey wins, but I don't get in an intellectual sense why their collections are more than marginally better than Michael's. Maybe I'm just swayed by his personality stylistically by his Puffy-in-the-Hamptons/Sade-video shtick - for all the bling and skin and cargo detailing, I think he's the most elegant of the four.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Uli's collection and Michael's collection are very similar (from what I've seen blah blah blah). I wouldn't say that Uli's is much more than marginally better than Michael's on glances--just that hers is much more against type than Michael's, so it'd be more "wow" for the judges. Though judging by the nonsense Michael apparently showed up in NY with that didn't make it to the runway, maybe they'll be wowed by his ability to redo all that in a couple days? Who knows.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

so do we think keith was lying his ass off in the reunion special about his books having been confiscated and then mysteriously returned to his room? and also about the producers allowing him to leave?

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

100% yes, that story morphed as he told it.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

he is reptillian and sneaky

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

one more point about the Jeffrey cheating issue: throughout the season, he consistently finished challenges early-ish and was always on top of things. I can remember several challenges where J was Mr. Cool and in charge, while the rest of the contestants scrambled. This suggests that Jeffrey does work faster and more efficiently than others on the show.

Super Cub (Debito), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

it's silly of laura to judge his skills based on what he was able to do at the project runway studio in 1 day, especially considering how angela kept intentionally sabatoging his machine by getting florettes stuck in it, compared to 2 months in his own studio.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

I think you mean "sticking her fleurchamps all up in his machine"

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

If Jeffrey cheated with sewing, why in the world would he draw attention to the fact by laying around and not doing anything when he arrived in New York?

Also lack of 27 8 year olds flinging turtle poop in your work space might help with the distraction level.

OTM x 100000000

darin (darin), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Haha I don't even understand Laura's accusation on the basis of "He could never do that previously," I mean she knows that's nonsense. Think of the couture challenge for heaven's sake! He sewed that entire thing by hand and finished on time (perhaps early?). And the garbage challenge, that amazing dress he made, so quickly with just newspapers and rubbish. I mean, it is fairly obvious that he is absolutely capable of working very quickly and creating decent-to-very-good work in a short period of time. It was actually pretty funny to me that she referenced his past performance--because that is a clear point in Jeffrey's favor! It all kind of plays into my "Laura is going batshit from pregnancy hormones and stress" theory...

Oh hey do any of you ever read the comments on Tim Gunn's blog for a laugh? WOW has the tide turned in favor of Jeffrey on that site...

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and the narrative suggests a Jeffrey win. He's being established as the comeback kid, the underdog, a teddy bear underneath the hard shell. Plus, he seems most ready for the big time in terms of professionalism and point of view. The guys clothes will sell.

Super Cub (Debito), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

re: keith

he is reptillian and sneaky

OTM

As for Jeffrey getting extra help: his line about (and I'm paraphrasing): "It's Bryant Park. Of course I'm going to have my stuff finished" completely makes sense.

I still like Michael as he's such a nice dude, but I really don't hate any of them, nor do I really love any of them either. I'm warming to Jeffrey, slowly but surely. Oh, and his stripey-green zipper dress was fantastic!

molly d (mollyd), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and Laura's apartment is crazy. Where does that money come from?

Super Cub (Debito), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

i didnt even realise there was a model comp until halfway through the season!

The model comp was more prominent in season one but the producers de-empathized it when they realized that no one gave a shit.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

rich old crazy lookin husband!

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

I don't actually hate (or even dislike) any of the contestants left, it's just kind of driving me a little nuts that Laura is trying to bring so much drama at this point. It's detracting from the main reason why I watch this program and not other "reality tv" competition shows, which is the fashion! The personality stuff is fun but this is going way too far at this point, especially in the off chance it results in a Jeffrey kick-off, because his stuff looks so interesting for Bryant Park.

xpost hahahahahahahaha poor models, being all fainty and dull and uninteresting :D

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Dude they didn't even like introduce her husband at ALL. What was that about? Maybe that's not even her husband. I have no idea.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

the model comp makes a little more sense this season with the weekly draft (and the least bone-alicious modelesque getting the boot). But it's still not like they have to do anything.

Somebody should pitch a combo Project Runway/Top Model show - film it from both angles, air them as separate shows.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and Laura's apartment is crazy. Where does that money come from?

Laura's husband is a big-shot interior architect who's firm designed things like the Polo/Ralph Lauren headquarters, etc.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

ooooo!

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Some background on Peter Shelton (Laura's husband)

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

a HA

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

then what was Laura's bit about not having the money to start a fashion career?

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

5 x (private school + college)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

and how much does the dude really make?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

Founding partner in a 30-year old design/architecture firm? Um, lots.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

how much?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Probably at least $350K/year without bonuses.

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

They aren't hurting, let's just say that.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

enough to make her excuse a little pretentious

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think there's a Dept. of Labor statistical category for "owner/partner, major design/build firm," Gabbneb.

milo z (mlp), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Well he probably makes less than, say, $2 million per year, so that's pretty struggling in the world of gabbneb, dudes.

Though I'm not sure why you guys bought Laura's "couldn't afford to start new career" excuse anyway, with or without the knowledge of what her husband does? It's obviously up there with Vincent's 401K in terms of crap?

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

$2 mil is probably about what she and hubby will pay for their kids' school (not per year, obv)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

and probably about what they paid for their place

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

...yet somehow Jeffrey and Kayne and...and...and...had the money to start their own businesses, cap'n save-a-yuppie.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

YES GABBNEB I LIVED AND WORKED IN REAL ESTATE AND WENT TO SCHOOL IN NY TOO. RICH PPLS STILL BE RICH PPLS EVEN IN NY LIVING STANDARDS.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

she could afford it, sure, but they'd probably have to cut back on other stuff they think is more important

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

and maybe jeffrey and kayne's costs are lower

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

i dunno how much they're even playing for, i realize

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

i was pointing out costs to milo, who lives in a metro where the cost of living is 10% lower than the national metro area average, where your real-dollar salary buys a little more than it would in most other cities, and which is rather different from nyc, which is 80% higher, and where your real-dollar salary buys substantially less than it would where he lives.

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gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Still doesn't change the fact that she's going for the pity vote.

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Why were you point this out to me? I understand the difference in cost of living, gabbneb - but you seemed completely confused as to the idea that the founding partner of a prestigious design-build firm (doing multi-million dollar commissions) would be wealthy.

she could afford it, sure, but they'd probably have to cut back on other stuff they think is more important
That's basically argument #1 for 'probably not cut out to be an independent fashion designer.'

milo z (mlp), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

i was pointing it out to you because you always seem to boggle at new york salaries, etc., when they aren't actually that different, and you've never been let alone lived here, so i'm skeptical whether you really do understand the cost of living difference in a tangible sense. and i'm not disbelieving that he's wealthy, but in the absence of knowledge, i don't really have any reason to believe he makes any given number other than that Dan seems to know from where he speaks upthread. but yeah, i'll admit that i might have a different definition of 'wealthy'.

by stuff that's more important i meant private school (from a very early age) for their now 5 kids. not that i know they'd go that route, but i think it's a fair assumption.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry, but if you can afford an apt like the one they were living in, you're so fucking weatlhy that you can do whatever the hell you want with your money and have more money left over.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

i was about to say, though, that maybe her husband (dunno when they got married) is like my parents - lives in an apt probably worth 10x what they paid for it in the 70s. not that my parents' apt looks anything like theirs.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

not that that would help my they're-starving-wage-slaves argument

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

wonder how much babysitters, afterschool programs, summer camp, etc. cost

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

NOBODY GIVES A SHIT

SHE'S A RICH BREEDIN' MARE AND SHE DECIDED TO ACT LIKE A CUNT SO NOW WE HATE HER

JESUS FUCK CAN YOU PEOPLE QUIT FELCHING THE CLASS WARFARE

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

I've never boggled at 'New York salaries' (read: yuppie salaries), I've boggled at New York living expenses and how they're dealt with by working-class and middle-class people. (The median household income in New York City is a little less than that of where I live, the median in Manhattan alone a little more - there isn't a massive difference.)

It's not like whatsherface and hubby are representative the average Manhattanite and his or her living situation.

What you said was "how much does the dude really make" and the answer is, unquestionably, "an assload." You seemed confused by that.

milo z (mlp), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

if he responds to you I'm going to fucking kill everyone on Earth

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Plus, [Jeffrey] seems most ready for the big time in terms of professionalism and point of view.

Even after Angela's-Momgate?

c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

relax

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Angela's momgate is kind of a pressure cooker nobody would ever, ever have to deal with in normal business. Angela's mom would find another designer she could work with and Jeffrey would get another client. S'capitalism yo.

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

also, jeffrey's clientele is the complete opposite of anyone like angela's mom. i dont think that he has to worry about losing shitloads of customers.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

i don't mean to piss you off, tom, but i fail to understand why i did or what this has to do with 'class warfare' (or, if it's what you're saying - i'm not sure - why it's inappropriate to talk frankly about class). and i respect your opinion, but i equally fail to understand why you think you're the arbiter of who cares about what or what i'm supposed to talk about.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

I would just like to point out that in gabbneb's dumbass graphic that Los Angeles (where Jeffrey lives) ranks "higher" on that list than New York does. So, like, apparently totally manageable for a non-yuppie in a worse city. Also LOL @ "New York salaries," when was the last time you actually earned one?

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT A SHOW, WHICH IS ABOUT FASHION. NOT ABOUT YOUR VASTLY MISGUIDED IDEAS OF WHAT "NEW YORKER SALARIES" ARE AND WHAT THEY ARE WORTH. YOU SEEM TO KNOW NEXT TO NOTHING ABOUT HIGH FASHION OR RUNWAY STYLING, JUDGING BY YOUR POSTS HERE. ALL YOU EVER SEEM TO BE VERY INTERESTED IN IS PROPPIN' YUPPIES. PLEASE JUST GO AWAY. I FAIL TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE HERE.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

And yeah, I think Todd OTM dudes. There's not gonna be a big rush for middle American ladies wanting Jeff's clothing, so that little incident wasn't that huge of a deal. It only continues to be a big deal because every time Angela shows up everywhere she brings it up, as far as I can tell.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

i'm here to contribute to and take from a knowledge base. i add what i think i know where i can.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

I still put most of the blame for momgate on Angela's mother. Just shut up and wear the clothes.

I'm sure we're all really eager to rehash this topic.

Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

and it's basically like your voting for jeffrey, ally - i make the points that i don't think anyone else is going to

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

and one of the things that you eternally seem to misunderstand about me is that I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT MYSELF

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

that's all well and good and fine but uh dude seriously don't we have eight million threads of you and milo or whichever other usual suspects arguing back and forth about dollars and manhattan and careers, why does every thread with a combination of you and certain other posters always turn into the same conversation, over and over and over?

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Bonnie was kind of hot on the reunion special. Just wanted to point that out.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

agreed! very cute

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think i notice it that much, but fairplay, probably, though i'm pretty mad restrained in the weiner/morbius dept these days. and if i'm baiting milo, in part it's because i'd be excited for him to see the city for the first time.

bonnie has always been my 2nd cutets

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

which one was bonnie?

I can't believe that allison didn't win fan favorite, but then, I didn't realize that the final four were eligible.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

Why on earth would you be surprised that Allison didn't win fan favorite? Even if final four were ineligible?

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

shes purty

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

approximately 65% of the show's target audience wouldnt care two snaps about that

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

"Good thing you wore your riding pants...in case it's horses." Enough reason to vote for Alison.

Jeff disrespecting the representative average frumpy middle-class woman by how he spoke to her and what he made her wear didn't exactly put him on the wrong side of the class warfare issue, as far as the judges were concerned. I suspect.

slugbuggy (slugbuggy), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Well considering he came in second to last in the challenge, it's not as if his OTT but not really entirely undeserved disrespect won him points, either, so I'm not sure what that was supposed to mean.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Why on earth would you be surprised that Allison didn't win fan favorite? Even if final four were ineligible?

All those people who approach her on the street to offer their support!

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, becuz CUTE

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

like gay men care, dood

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I just somehow don't see the straight male viewership logging into the Project Runway website, battling their horrific web design, and hunting down the voting section to rep for a cutie that was off the show ages ago. I could be wrong, maybe the show has a lot more straight dudes obsessin' it than I think.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

I just realized that ppl were talking about ALLISON rather than ANGELA (I always confuse the two because I used to have a crazy roomate named Allison who looks a lot like Angela), so my comment doesn't make any sense. I was also totally baffled that anyone would be attracted to Angela.

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

haha ally LOOK AT THIS THREAD

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah but none of you went out of your way to go vote for Allison, did you? I mean fuck's sake nickalish is the one person in the world attracted to Angela and the rest of y'all have man crush on Michael!

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I would much rather have sex with Allison than with Michael, but I like most of his designs better. THAT IN THE WAY OF CLARIFICATION.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

If they did a menswear season, would straight male viewership go up or down. It's not like we get to look at the models for all that long anyway.

milo z (mlp), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

i think that straight male viewership would go up a little, but i think that it would not be enough to counteract the loss of female viewership.

that being said, i would love to see a menswear project runway. those seersucker pants that michael made were absolutely stunning.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

Vincent turns me on.

c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

ew!

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

It's not the duration or frequency of the models' screentime, it's the fact that you're likely to see a two second shot of them changing. Worth it.

Despite the ostensible purpose of the "everyday" challenge I assume high fashion retains its cachet precicely because it's made for those who can afford it/ fit into it, and the other half of that dichotomy is that certain people are necessarily excluded to maintain that distinction. Jeff was rightly castigated for his behavior and design but he made it clear he didn't consider the challenge or client "real" in any way that was relevant to the industry or his participation in it and at some level I think the judges didn't disagree too vehemently, although they wouldn't state it overtly. Just a thought.

slugbuggy (slugbuggy), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Women's wear is more interesting/flashier to look at than menswear, gay or straight, am I correct?

c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

I am just going to say that while the general theory of fashion as stated there is definitely correct, I do believe that you watched a different episode than I did.

xpost that's like stating beyond the obvious dude.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Then why are some people here speculating that hetmale viewrship might possibly increase if the show featured menswear? I'd sooner consider wearing Uli's evening dresses than the getup Michael made for himself.

c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)


I sure as hell wouldn't watch any fashion menswear contest. That is not Project Runway, that is Outkast videos and NFL pregame shows. Damn, people.

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Wait a second, was all of that conversation serious? That there are people who exist who watch Project Runway to check out girls? And that het men want to see male runway shows? I thought those were comedy???

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

I can't find the reference, but I believe there is an interview with Tim Gunn basically saying that he'd love for there to be menswear challenges but that since menswear is primarily about fit that it would be kind of limiting.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Menswear challenges would totally work if the judges were the female models who picked which suit they'd be most likely to date.

slugbuggy (slugbuggy), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Hello, annoying argument, I just wanted to tell you that Laura's "can't afford business" line probably (surely) translates to something like "can't afford the kind of ritzy upscale women-of-a-certain-age Manhattan-boutique with high powered publicist that loft-lavishing designers' wives like me would coo over kind of place that I, Laura, imagine when I imagine starting a business (as opposed to Jeffrey having some scuzzy LA hipster store or Kayne doing prom dresses wherever the hell he's from)."

Hope that helps.

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously, fuck off.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

haha, yes.

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

for like the x000th time, nabisco sets forth in concise detail the kind of thing that i assume is understood in everyone else's head as much as mine and i don't need to make explicit beyond at best an oblique adversion but i guess maybe i do

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

that's why he makes the big bucks

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

or we all actually understand that just as well as you two smart guys do but don't GIVE A FUCKIN' RAT'S ASS about that detail of the situation

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Haha yes.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

Overexplaining is so passive-aggressive

dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

you guys get so worked up

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

roxy otm

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 13 October 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

This is actually Ally.

IF LAURA CAN'T CURRENTLY AFFORD TO OPEN UP SHOP IN NYC NO PIDDLY $100K (HALF TAKEN IN TAXES THO) PRIZE IS GOING TO ACTUALLY ACHIEVE THAT FOR HER.

WTF ARE YOU PEOPLE NOT GETTING?

I'm not even worked up I'm just sick and tired of retards ruining my fun!

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

Now back to SPEED RACER!

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think the cash prize / internship / car has ever been the point for anyone on the show, and is almost exclusively about the free press. I think if you turn down the internship, you effectively turn down the cash and car, and I think both Jay and Chloe turned it down.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not even worked up I'm just sick and tired of retards ruining my fun!

I was thinking the same thing!

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 13 October 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure the money and the internship or the money has significant strings attached to it (Jay definitely declined the internship and the money, Chloe also declined the internship--not sure about the the money.) I think the free car might just be a free car though.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 13 October 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

xpost can't believe het males watch to check out girls? Um, noticed Heidi Klum, Marilinda (if that's Jeffry's and my fave model's exact name)? Where else am I gonna see so much of them? Although the creative competition was interesting too, til got so predictable.(Probably it always was, but I came in late.)

don (dow), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

xpost?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Tuesday, 17 October 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

No one said they can't believe het males watch AND check out girls--more like what kind of sad bastard watches ONLY to check out the girls? Significant difference. Log onto a porn site FFS.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

tho Curt1s just made me roffles.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

speaking of sad bastard, i'm contemplating texting: "I MISS BRADLEY" and seeing if it gets put on the ticker during tonight.

molly d (mollyd), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

... during tonight's show.

molly d (mollyd), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

so is the finale tonight or no?

sunny successor (katharine), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

It's tonight.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Do you think there will be girls there?

Super Cub (Debito), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

OH MOTHERFUCKERS

OH HELL YES

NOIZE NECK ALL THE WAY

FUCK DA HATAZ

though frankly my own taste did lean towards Michael's "The Jungle Women Of Buck Rogers" collection

WHATEVS

HOOHAAH

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Thursday, 19 October 2006 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

The big question now is who ends up in H&M first

The big answer to that question is "Uli"

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Thursday, 19 October 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

I, like Laura, am at peace with the decision.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 19 October 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

I wanted someone to do something terrible to the Wal-Mart guy.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 19 October 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

More giant gold space handbags, please.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Thursday, 19 October 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

LOW END BRO my twocentiments exactly (sorry, but aren't you glad I didn't blare on through LOW END BRO OTM--this show has instructed me in taste). But wasn't his collection as specialized as Michael's or Laura's, especially re the physiques to which his and Michael's collections were suited? In other words, since the (female) judges kept marvelling over how Uli's clothes had such universal appeal, shouldn't that have tipped the scales, maybe?? (and I did watch for the creative learning curve, as well as the other curves)

don (dow), Thursday, 19 October 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

I preferred Uli, honestly, but was surprised by all the collections (Michael's especially, and not in a good way). I LOVED the dress that Laura brought to the decision with her.

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Thursday, 19 October 2006 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

Wow the TWOP:PR forum is really really really mad.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 October 2006 03:19 (nineteen years ago)

Why bother?

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Thursday, 19 October 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

why mad?

don (dow), Thursday, 19 October 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

oH, Michael. Michael, Michael, Michael. Why did you choose so many awful gold belts? Why did you collapse under pressure?
Penis head pencil neck is still going to have eggs thrown at him - and he's such a dickhead that he deserves it. I am literally shocked and dismayed that he won.

aimurchie (aimurchie), Thursday, 19 October 2006 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

When you say "dickhead," do you mean that literally or figuratively? Because I've come to disagree with the latter. But his head still does look like a dick.

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Thursday, 19 October 2006 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

the first half of Uli's collection would look great on the starship enterprise. the rest was eh. I'm glad jeffery won though I thought Uli was going to take it in a blonde german Uber-race conspiracy

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 19 October 2006 05:58 (nineteen years ago)

I would've gone:

1. Uli
2. Jeff
3. Laura
4. Michael

My main thing against Laura is that I don't feel like I've seen that she can design for a woman who actually has breasts. And, her look still looks incredibly dated. She will be a great designer for a very small, and frankly unhip segment of the buying public. Her St. Germain-esque music was the perfect metaphor for her entire collection... a half-assed attempt to modernize what is obviously very classic (old) inspirations.

Michael's was better than Wendy Pepper's or Chloe's, in my opinion, but it was the worst of the four here. He will sell clothes, but it was a little too rap video for Bryant Park.

Jeff's was really cohesive and interesting and personal, but his ugly-beautiful thing swayed a little too far toward ugly for me here. The endless red and green striping was eyesoreish at times.

I think I liked every piece Uli showed, and I liked that she recalled so many of her themes from the season. Instead of seeming like a one-note, it made her seem to me to be a designer whose entire season was her runway show, not just the last twelve outfits.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 19 October 2006 06:22 (nineteen years ago)


1. Uli
2. Jeff
3. Laura
4. Michael

Same here.

Super Cub (Debito), Thursday, 19 October 2006 07:26 (nineteen years ago)

i still dont understand the deal with noizeneck's shorts etc. you're allowed to have someone else sew your clothes as long as you have a receipt?

also, laura's whole deal with jeffrey not having enough time to sew a pair of pants well: hand stitching 10,000,000 beads and sequins vs sewing one pair of pants well.

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 19 October 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

You're allowed to outsource certain things in the interest of time as long as you don't go overbudget with outsourcing; for example pleats and beading.

Jeffrey's collection was by far the most innovative of the three. I hate, hate, hate those dresses with boob-belts that Uli put out there--I think she swayed a little too far away from her color pop thing perhaps. Most of it was nice...I think the judges ordered everyone correctly.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Thursday, 19 October 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

Anybody who hates that Jeffrey won because of his personality can go suck it for all time. BYAHHH.

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Thursday, 19 October 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

eh, jeffrey is a whiney bitch but he deserved to win.

i was actually kind of suprised at laura's collection. very nice.

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 19 October 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

I thought I was going to hate everyone's collections after seeing the photos of them, but in motion they were all much better than I thought. Jeffrey is the most creative designer. It turns out that he really isn't so rock and roll in his designs and likes teh cuteness. I found some of Ulli's pieces strangely similar to Michael's. They both had a jungle space thing going on. I would rank the collections in order of creativity: Jeffrey, Ulli, Laura, Michael. I would rank the personalities: Michael, Laura, Ulli, Jeffrey. The clothes I actually liked the best: Laura, Ulli, Jeffrey, Michael.

Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 19 October 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

Interview with Jeffrey:

http://www.bravotv.com/blog/fashionforwardqa/2006/10/jeffrey_sebelia.php?page=1

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

when the show started heidi klum said they had a "great villain" this season. who was it? laura? keith? jeffery? angela?

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

Haha the person who invented the mom challenge?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

jeffrey was really quite diplomatic after the entire laura-you've-outsourced!-i'm-jealous! debacle. good for him.

i disliked him greatly at first, but his talent and sometimes spot-on observations won me over. i'm really happy he won.

molly d (mollyd), Thursday, 19 October 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

OK notes from browsing the bravo.com Project Runway store, where you can apparently bid on all the clothes designed for the show:

1. In the "Jeffrey's Favorites" section, there is only one item: Autobiography of a Yogi.

2. Somebody paid $400 for the outfit that Kayne designed in the jetsetter challenge.

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

3. The "Sex Drugs & Tim Gunn" t-shirt is only available as a babydoll.

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

season 3 was a bore, all ego, no fun, no mccarolls or santinos or austins or dingbat guadalupe vidals or andraes to say funny things, the only thing even worth laughing at was vincent flipping out at the producer and even that was hidden away only to be excavated for the reunion thing. NEVER WATCHING THIS STUPID SHOW AGAIN UNLESS THEY PUT MORE CRAZIES AND WEIRDOS ON IT

YOU TOO TOP CHEF

ath (ath), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

"When you say "dickhead," do you mean that literally or figuratively?"

I meant both. I really wanted Michael to win, and it was sad to see him crash and burn under the weight of his own "nasty" collection. I mean, it's television, and obviously I am willingly being manipulated to love/hate certain characters. His sweetness throughout, and his talent (before the finale) made me really root for him.
I agree with the general consensus here: Uli, Jeffrey, Laura, Michael.In terms of the finale.
Anywhoo, television is meant to manipulate you, and provoke feelings about the characters you are viewing/engaging with. What I think is interesting, and hilarious, is what it provokes that the producers didn't expect. like, most of America wants Tim Gunn to be their father/boyfriend/best friend/confidante.
Who woulda thunk that the viewing public would fall deeply, madly in love with him?!
Mitigate, make it work, carry on!

aimurchie (aimurchie), Thursday, 19 October 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

i liked the very end of the show, the clip of jeffery saying "if you dont' think michael was playing a role, then you didn't hear all the conversations about strippers and ass"

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

"safari": I know he said it was the personal quest, his learning curve this season, etc., but also looked like he was trying to go with what the judges (Kors, at least?) saying sportsware was his basic strength. Not that it was literally sportsware, but based on that. But with little booby shield pad thingies, etc., eeeuhh. yeah, Uli's kinda fizzled out toward the end (that last blue thing was like my Grannie's shower curtain). But overall, they had me convinced she probably should've (was going to) win, based on judges' comments (and exclamations).

don (dow), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

2. Somebody paid $400 for the outfit that Kayne designed in the jetsetter challenge.

hahahahahahaha, awesome

got yourself a fish biscuit! (nickalicious), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

NEVER WATCHING THIS STUPID SHOW AGAIN UNLESS THEY PUT MORE CRAZIES AND WEIRDOS ON IT

In one of his season 2 podcasts Tim Gunn said that they were trying to avoid having more Santino-like characters because it would be the death of the show.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bravotv.com/_content/images/Ulifinale9.jpg

EQUALS

http://members.aol.com/Saotome692/lum-sky.jpg

????????

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 19 October 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Doctor Casino for the win

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Thursday, 19 October 2006 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

I really don't see what wanting X person to win has to do with calling other people dickheads (or cunts, for that matter), I don't get that about this thread.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Friday, 20 October 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Vincent lists Hail to the Thief (and the Mars Volta) under his favorites.

Alley, I don't get what you mean. You're surprised that the contestants whom the viewers liked best are also the ones viewers want to see win, and conversely and consequently that viewers want their least-liked contestants to not win? Then again I have displayed a lack of perspicacity vis-a-vis reading the more idiosyncratic arguments on this thread, so ignore at your discretion.

I could see where Laura was coming from -- I didn't expect Jeffrey to come even close to the collection he showed, even from a design perspective.

What bugs me about the final announcement is that it has absolutely no fanfare attached to it, like it's barely any different from any regular judging. The music is the same, the set (dressing) is the same, the only thing that distinguishes it from any normal judging is the winner saying, "Are you kidding?"

c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 20 October 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

I could see where Laura was coming from -- I didn't expect Jeffrey to come even close to the collection he showed, even from a design perspective.

Really? I figured Noize would win a few challenges ago. Michael was always a little hit and miss and Laura and Uli kept doing the same thing over and over.

Actually, now I think about it I dont think Laura questioned the designs were Jeffrey's, just the construction.

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 20 October 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

No, she made v clear it wasn't the design she was questioning.

I still find Jeffrey pretty.. grating, personality wise, but I agree with the judges & like I said before he did the best collection, then Uli.

just to be all I KNEW IT (I mean, early on before I went on a rant abt hating his taste and sense of color!)

I think the German girl is probably pretty good, and the guy from LA with the hood on all the time..

dar1a g (daria g), Friday, 20 October 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

I really don't see what wanting X person to win has to do with calling other people dickheads (or cunts, for that matter), I don't get that about this thread.

It's a reality show.

Super Cub (Debito), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

Alley, I don't get what you mean. You're surprised that the contestants whom the viewers liked best are also the ones viewers want to see win, and conversely and consequently that viewers want their least-liked contestants to not win?

No, I'm saying that being in love with Michael really doesn't excuse your only contributions to the thread being calling Jeffrey a dickhead or wishing him harm. It seems straightforward, dude!! I'm not really a huge fan of Tom's liberal use of the word "cunt" to describe Angela and Laura, either. That is what I meant.

At what point did Jeffrey stop wearing that hoodie, btw? It was like melted into his skin or something from how much he sported that thing in the beginning but then it disappeared. I miss the hoodie.

Allyzay lives aprox. 200 feet away from a stadium (allyzay), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

he does an interview on the site where he says he wore it early on to intimidate everyone and to be the mysterious asshole guy.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

My Top 5 pre-show:

1. Malan Breton
2. Alison Kelly
3. Kieth Michael
4. Vincent Liberetti
5. Kayne Gillaspie

Wow I was soo off. Oh well.. lol. I still think Alison was robbed, Keith would've made it to fashion week if he hadn't been DQ'd and Malan was kicked off too early.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Comparing the antagonistic contestants to genitals is just like sports fans, though (not that I'm excusing/condoning/whatever). Like, take Imperialist Yanquis fans vs. BoSUX fans.

c('°c) (Leee), Friday, 20 October 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

malan went to fashion week anyways.

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 20 October 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

how did he do that

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Saturday, 21 October 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

Malan's blog is awesome.

"What if we all lived in a world of glamour and happiness and health? We could all be glamorous, travel, sing songs, make clothes from old curtains, fall in love and then live happily ever after! What an ideal, is there a place like that? Turner Movie Classics!"


http://www.bravotv.com/blog/malan

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Saturday, 21 October 2006 02:20 (nineteen years ago)

ten months pass...

tim gunn has his own show?

btw, season 4 starts November 14th.

kenan, Friday, 7 September 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

can't wait can't wait can't waitcan'twaitcan'twaitcan'twaitcan'twaitcan'twaitcan'twaitcan'twaitcan'twait

Maria :D, Friday, 7 September 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

I KNOW THINGS

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Friday, 7 September 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

you son of a bitch

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 7 September 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

stop taunting

the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 7 September 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

I saw this last night, and it was just another makeover show.

Super Cub, Friday, 7 September 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

I think it's great. It's much more likable than the unbearably catty "What Not To Wear." Tim and Veronica (at least pretend to) care about the women they help, whereas Stacy and Clinton treat everyone like walking joke fodder. Even my boyfriend (who doesn't watch PR and had no idea who TG was) was impressed by how sweet the show was. It actually gets too sappy when they bring out the "life stylist" though. That dude needs to go.

All that said, I don't think it's long for this world.

lindseykai, Saturday, 8 September 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

another makeover show + tim gunn = can't be bad

kenan, Saturday, 8 September 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

It really weirded me out when they gave the husband the new wedding ring. Like "Hi, you are too poor to get your wife a real wedding ring, so we did it for you, and btw you don't get to choose it, and also can we please show it on tv THANK YOU"

polyphonic, Saturday, 8 September 2007 23:02 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, that was my boyfriend's reaction exactly. They were a super-adorable couple though. If anyone should receive expensive (albeit sorta humiliating) jewelry on television, it's them.

lindseykai, Saturday, 8 September 2007 23:24 (eighteen years ago)

I anxiously await you, Nov. 14.

Tape Store, Saturday, 8 September 2007 23:28 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone know who the new designers will be yet?

Aja, Saturday, 8 September 2007 23:31 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

http://www.bravotv.com/blog/fashionforwardnews

Some of the season 4 people are shown there. Also, apparently the official announcement of the date of the premiere will be tonight on top chef. Nov. 14 was not official.

Maria :D, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

http://bravomtdb.console.net/_mt/fashionforwardnews/_blogImages/2007/09/ff_chris_320x240.jpg
ok reality teevee

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

has this been delayed interminably? someone told me they shot a bunch of stuff for it in SF months and months ago

akm, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

TM, Tom is O it

HI DERE, Wednesday, 26 September 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

I KNOW... THINGS

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Thursday, 27 September 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

that guy totally wins doesn't he

El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

He totally does! But only when he twirls the swatches.

HI DERE, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

dude is basically the self-blingee

El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 September 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)


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