Wong kar-Wai's first English-lang film, "My Blueberry Nights"

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Shooting this week in NYC's Chinatown, starring Jude Law and... Norah Jones! Co-written by Lawrence Block. Darius Khondji is the DP, that's good news.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/eug/archives/010891.html


http://imdb.com/title/tt0765120/


The iMdB has him remaking The Lady from Shanghai after this.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 August 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

NOT a remake of the orson welles film btw (in case anyone was wondering).

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

whew

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

is this going to be as bad as 2046

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

s1ocki, please!

I walked across Chinatown on Wednesday and I didn't see any sign of this.

Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

yeah slock, phfffft!

xpost

but Lady based on the same novel as the Welles film, apparently? However loose, I consider that a remake.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

2046 so bad

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

2046 is fantastic!

gear (gear), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

it's like a parody of a wkw movie... + horrible narration

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps the renewal of this discussion will draw gygax! out of his hidey-hole.

Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

You just read the New Yorker, didn't you?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

17. What did George W. Bush say was “the best moment” during his years in the White House?

(a) “The first day I sat at my desk in the Oval Office and thought about all the history that happened there and realized that now it was my turn.”

(b) “When I caught a seven-and-a-half-pound largemouth bass on my lake.”

(c) “When they told me we caught Saddam in his hidey-hole.”

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

gygax! isn't in hiding, he just changed his name

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Cab Calloway left gygax his hidey hidey hole

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

no, jaymc, but I did think of that incident.

Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

2046 is a disaster, c'mon people.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

I think we beat this horse on its own thread, let's stick to speculation and optimism here, mmmmkay?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, take it back over here, hataz!

Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

I was underwhelmed by 2046 but I wouldn't say it was bad.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

mmmmkay!

jed_ (jed), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Ken, going to any Film Forum swashbucklers?

I'm a bit wary of WKW's Lady casting of Kidman and Jackman. (she's too old, for one)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 August 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

s1ocki n' jed otm.

jergins (jergins), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

I went to Fanfan, Morbius. What are you gonna go see?

Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

More like BORE-ah Jones!

the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

It is described as the story of "a young woman who travels across America to find answers to her questions about the true meaning of love. Along the way, she encounters a series of offbeat denizens..."

YOU DON'T SAY.

the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Searching For Doaple

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just joshing, this movie looks great! Also: Natalie Portman and Rachel Weisz! Is it wrong of me to hope for LEZZING?

the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

might have a special guest star but my lips are sealed.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Is chaki in THIS movie TOO!?!?!?!

the doaple gonger (nickalicious), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Chan Marshall?

Blueberry also being shot in Memphis, Vegas, LA.


Ken, dunno; I'll be at the Mets game the night of the Lancaster twinbill! I want to take my neo-nephew to at least one Flynn, maybe The Sea Hawk. I don't think I've seen the Fairbanks or Ritz Bros Musketeers!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

yeah chan would be right up WKW's street.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

How did I know Dr. Mo would be all over 2046?

Didn't he direct another movie, after Happy Together, that was so awful I can't remember the title or what even happened in it? That took the whole "this is a giant rock video" concept to extremes? Nothing's mentioned in the imdb, so - I either dreamed that I saw a nonexistent and bad WKW movie (though I had loved everything of his I'd seen up to then) or imdb is covering up for his sins.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

no comment.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Oh never mind - it's Fallen Angels. God amighty was that a bad movie.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 4 August 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

chaki was in a movie?

gbx (skowly), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

i was in a movie once. "little big league." slid into third base in the opening scene. a cool $1500 for three days of doing NUTHIN'.

gbx (skowly), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Ever since you first mentioned that, gbx, I have had a nagging desire to rent it just for that.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Tracer, yer the first one here who totally agrees with me on Fallen Angels!

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Man! I got to see a movie being made once, when I was like 10. I was absolutely steupefied by the amount of waiting that went on. To make up for it though I met Colleen Dewhurst! She smiled at me and shook my hand!! Then I ate like 18 granola bars.

xpost yeah it was a while ago but I was like, "wake me up when it's done."

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

I can never totally not-enjoy a WKW movie because he has a tendency to cast REALLY GOOD LOOKING PEOPLE in them.

ryan (ryan), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

What a maverick

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

go watch any hollywood film and tell me those people are good looking!

ryan (ryan), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Ever since you first mentioned that, gbx, I have had a nagging desire to rent it just for that.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), August 4th, 2006 5:03 PM. (jaymc) (later)

no comment.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

My Blue Heaven + Harlem Nights

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

i bet wong kar-wai has some good craft service tables.. hmm..

heavyweight grebt (sanskrit), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

no comment

A friend of yours tells you he was in a Hollywood movie when he was like 12 years old and you're not curious?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

now you're MOVIE-curious and not just bi-curious?!?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 August 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

Mmm Tony Leung and Hugh Jackman...a shame Tony couldn't be persuaded to star.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...
uh oh, the Weinsteins are distributing. I wonder how much longer the international version will be. (Anyway, sounds like 2008. maybe.)

The Master of Time: Wong Kar-wai in America
By DENNIS LIM

On a SoHo film set last August, Jude Law and Norah Jones were getting intimate. Repeatedly intimate. To be precise, they had kissed upwards of 150 times in the past three days.

The occasion for this outbreak of passion was “My Blueberry Nights,” the first English-language film by Wong Kar-wai, the maverick Hong Kong director turned avatar of cosmopolitan cool. This particular night was stifling as the crew spilled out of Palacinka, a small cafe on Grand Street that was the principal New York location, preparing for yet another take of the scene known as “the Kiss.”

It’s closing time, and Ms. Jones, the only remaining customer, is slumped on the counter, her eyes shut. A smudge of cream rests on her upper lip, the telltale sign of a dessert binge. Mr. Law, cleaning up behind the bar, gazes at her, slowly leans in and steals a lingering kiss. When he surfaces, the cream on her lip is gone.

The shot lasted less than a minute, but the number of permutations that Mr. Wong and his cinematographer, Darius Khondji, devised — 15 set-ups, by the count of the script supervisor — suggested it would play a central role in the finished film. The Kiss was being shot at different film speeds and from a multitude of angles: a wide shot, his point of view, hers, through windows, with objects in the foreground.

“I’ve never worked with someone who’s put so much emphasis on a single moment,” Mr. Law said between takes one night. “It’s extraordinary how he’ll take a moment and replay it and slice it up.”

The consecration of a fleeting, fugitive moment is one of Mr. Wong’s specialties. Perhaps more than any filmmaker since Alain Resnais, his great subject is time — or more specifically lost time. His rhapsodic movies, haunted by voice-over ruminations and swathed in lush regret, seem to transpire in the realm of memory. People and places are mourned even as they are captured on camera.

Mr. Wong, 48, is keen to describe “My Blueberry Nights,” a road movie shot in New York, Memphis, Las Vegas and Ely, Nev., with a cast that also includes Natalie Portman, Rachel Weisz and David Strathairn, as a new beginning. His last film, “2046,” was planned as science fiction but demonstrated the gravitational pull of the past as well, succumbing to the hothouse delirium of 1960s Hong Kong. A kaleidoscopic head rush, “2046” quoted so extensively from Mr. Wong’s earlier work that it felt like a midcareer retrospective unto itself.

To a notorious degree Mr. Wong finds his way as he goes, often plunging into production with little more than an outline. His exploratory method gives his films a unique shape and intensity; the result is inseparable from the process.

In the mid-1990s, with Hong Kong’s reversion to Chinese sovereignty looming, Mr. Wong directed three films — “Chungking Express,” “Fallen Angels” and “Happy Together” — in quick succession. Made as if on deadline, they have a brash Polaroid-like immediacy. The films that followed, “In the Mood for Love” and “2046,” are period reveries rooted in the melancholy of transience. It’s only fitting that he had a hard time letting go; each took a seeming eternity to complete. “In five years you can make five films, but I spent five years making one,” he said in his Manhattan hotel room soon after the shoot, referring to “2046.”

“My Blueberry Nights” — repeat kisses notwithstanding — is a conscious attempt to pick up the pace. For one thing, Mr. Wong shot it in just seven weeks. “We thought of this as a vacation film, spontaneous and contemporary,” he said. “Making a film under the best conditions, it’s like a rock band on tour,” he added, ever the rock-star director: his trademark sunglasses stayed on through the New York night shoots.

For another, Mr. Wong said that the project “happened overnight.” He was in New York last year researching another movie, “The Lady From Shanghai,” a period drama (no relation to the Orson Welles film noir) that would star Nicole Kidman and shoot in Russia, Shanghai and New York. When that was postponed, he decided to make a smaller, off-the-cuff film, which he conceived as a vehicle for Ms. Jones, the Grammy-winning singer-songwriter, who had never acted before.

“She’s a natural,” he said, adding that he had instructed her not to take acting lessons.

As he sees it, “My Blueberry Nights” is in a sense about Ms. Jones’s face as it reacts to different environments. “In Memphis there’s something very classic about her presence,” he said. “In New York it’s very contemporary.”

Ms. Jones seemed less confident than her director. “I have no idea what he saw in me or where he saw it,” she said on a coffee break one night. “When I got the call, I thought he wanted some music for his movies. It’s weird because I feel like I’ve looked uncomfortable in every music video I’ve been in.”

William Chang, who has been Mr. Wong’s editor, production designer and costume designer from the start, is with him on “My Blueberry Nights,” but for the first time in 15 years Christopher Doyle, the iconoclastic Australian cinematographer, is not. Together Mr. Wong and Mr. Doyle invented a much copied visual shorthand for romantic alienation, a mix of neon-smudged kinesis and slow-motion contemplation. But their relationship has been strained of late, with Mr. Doyle’s Hollywood workload and Mr. Wong’s erratic schedules becoming incompatible. In Mr. Doyle’s place is Mr. Khondji, the French cinematographer best known for the dank atmospherics of David Fincher’s “Seven.”

Just as striking as Mr. Doyle’s absence from the project is the presence of Hollywood actors. Over the years Mr. Wong has built up a repertory of Hong Kong luminaries who learned to thrive under his impulsive demands. “My Blueberry Nights” subjects its starry ensemble to an open-ended process that would be inconceivable on a studio movie. (The film was acquired for American distribution by the Weinstein Company earlier this month.)

Mr. Wong was also working for the first time with a screenwriting partner, the crime novelist Lawrence Block, who had written some scenes based on an outline. While shooting, Mr. Wong constantly revised and added new scenes, often at the last minute. He said he was surprised to find that the actors were not only ready for the challenge — his reputation preceded him — but even excited.

“I wish we had endless time and endless money,” Mr. Law said. “It’s not often you get to be part of something like this — a living story that’s still being decided.”

There is a pragmatic side to Mr. Wong’s seemingly reckless method. Entire subplots are planned, cast and even shot, only to evaporate. But he recycles ideas as often as he abandons them. A stray segment from “Chungking Express” became “Fallen Angels,” while “2046” bloomed from a kernel first planted in “Days of Being Wild,” his 1991 breakthrough film.

Similarly “My Blueberry Nights” grew out of a planned omnibus called “Three Stories About Food.” One chapter became “In the Mood for Love” (2000). Another, the basis for “Blueberry,” was filmed as a short with Tony Leung and Maggie Cheung, and has only been screened once, at the 2001 Cannes Film Festival.

That short, called “In the Mood for Love 2001,” contained the blueprint for the Kiss. As Mr. Wong expanded the scenario, it turned into a road movie partly because it would cost too much to shoot entirely in New York. So he contrived a romantic predicament to send Ms. Jones’s character on a trip. “She needs time to think so she takes the longest road across America, from the Atlantic to the Pacific,” he said.

The next step was to map her route and find at least two pit stops. Crew members went on three cross-country location scouting trips, accompanied twice by Mr. Khondji and once by Mr. Wong. Both took copious photos of highways, diners, motels: slices of Americana in the style of Robert Frank and William Eggleston.

Mr. Wong considered post-Katrina New Orleans, but the logistics were daunting. He opted instead for Memphis, where Ms. Jones would encounter Mr. Strathairn and Ms. Weisz’s unhappy couple. (Mr. Wong called the Memphis segment a tribute to Tennessee Williams.) He discovered Ely while driving along Highway 50, often called the loneliest road in America, and decided to place Ms. Portman’s story line there.

Mr. Wong asks for complete trust from his actors, but he’s also willing to customize their roles to suit them. This was especially so with Mr. Law’s character, the cafe proprietor, who started out as a quiet type but grew more boisterous when the actor’s charisma and energy became evident. “I kept telling him to get louder,” Mr. Wong said.

More than a month into the shoot, despite the breakneck pace and permanent uncertainty, the atmosphere on set was relatively serene. “There’s an incredible calmness to him,” Mr. Law said of Mr. Wong.

Even so, there are some basic aspects of production in this country that run counter to his prized spontaneity. Permit applications must be filed well in advance. Union regulations stipulate penalties for long days, precluding the marathon sessions that he has been known to hold.

In Hong Kong “we make films like a family business,” he said. “Here everything has to be quite specific. I have to explain to the crew that even though I respect the rules, there’s certain things I want to keep my way.”

As Ms. Jones put it, “He’s open to everything, but he knows what he wants.”

BETWEEN takes of the Kiss, Mr. Chang, the production designer, was fussing over Ms. Jones. He rearranged her hair, fanning her curls out on the countertop, and reapplied the spot of cream on her lip. Compared with the exertions of “2046,” which called for period re-creations, futuristic sets and a heaving wardrobe of traditional and android couture, this was a breeze.

“I really needed a break from period,” Mr. Chang said, smiling.

The cafe location had only been minimally altered. There were hand-painted inscriptions on the glass windows and a new sign outside with Cyrillic lettering. Mr. Chang had also installed a pair of columns to break up the tiny space and mounted mirrors to maximize the angles.

That night Mr. Khondji was working out a complex shot that required him to pan, track and shoot the Kiss through a vase, a cake dish and some beer bottles on the countertop.

After a few takes Mr. Wong asked if the shot would work better if Mr. Law, before swooping in for the smooch, extended his hand to touch Ms. Jones’s face. Or, as he put it, “Foreplay or no foreplay?” A vote was taken among those present; the former prevailed. Mr. Law incorporated the maneuver into the remaining takes.

Later Mr. Wong jokingly explained: “I had to ask because in America, sometimes they prefer things macho. I wasn’t sure if it should be too tender. In Hong Kong I don’t have to ask. I know what a guy would do.”

Most nights the mood music was “The Greatest,” the latest album of dreamy downer ballads by Cat Power. For Mr. Wong the on-set soundtrack was mostly for the benefit of the cinematographer. “The best way for the camera to pick up the rhythm is music,” he said.

Mr. Khondji said that he and Mr. Wong had intended to adopt a casually alert, near-documentary style, using a small crew and natural light. But once they got under way, perhaps through force of habit, the shots became more stylized. Still, Mr. Khondji added: “It’s not as perfect as his last two movies. There’s no time for perfection.”

Mr. Wong left for Hong Kong in September with almost all of “Blueberry,” his ninth feature, under his belt and — it would not be a Wong Kar-wai film otherwise — questions surrounding the ending. He said he would likely return in the winter to shoot the concluding scenes.

Reached by e-mail recently, he said he was editing with Mr. Chang and would not make any decisions about additional shooting until he had a first cut. The plan had been to balance the completion of “Blueberry” with preproduction on “The Lady From Shanghai,” but Ms. Kidman announced last month that she was pulling out of that film. “None of those reports have been confirmed by anyone involved with the project,” Mr. Wong wrote. Without Ms. Kidman, though, he added, “There is no reason to do it.”

Over tea shortly before he left New York, Mr. Wong said he was exhausted from the grueling shoot. But far from being fazed by the sense of incompletion, he seemed invigorated: the door remained open, no alternatives had been lost, the story was still alive.

And how might “My Blueberry Nights” end? “I think there will be a second kiss,” he said. “But I don’t know where.”


Copyright 2006 The New York Times Company

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 November 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

no doyle huh

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 20 November 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

"he had instructed her not to take acting lessons"

gah wtf

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 20 November 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Haha

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 November 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

"alvin ailey, saying the boy was a natural, had instructed him not to take dance lessons"

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 20 November 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously though I don't know what to make of this at all. Glad Lady From Shanghai fell through though. That was not necessary at all.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 20 November 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

perhaps Norah will just be doing Bressonian "modeling" in this film.

daaaaamn but Jude Law looks good in the photos, considering he's not Tony Leung.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 November 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...
will open Cannes

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

It's a Cannes-opener!

TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

man I am laughing so hard at my own jokes

TOMBOT, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

haha

(tombot is my dad?)

That one guy that quit, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

s1ocki otm upthread.

That one guy that quit, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

Also named today is the Cannes Un Certain Regard slate -- which includes films from Harmony Korine

can't believe he pulled it together to make another movie...

Edward III, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

There's a new Abel Ferrara in there too.

C0L1N B..., Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

Korine co-scripted with Avi Korine, this is a yarn about a young American lost in Paris, eking out a living as a Michael Jackson (Luna) lookalike. By co-incidence, he meets Marilyn Monroe (Morton). He follows her to a commune in Scotland, joining her husband Charlie Chaplin (Lavant) and her daughter Shirley Temple. Fellow residents include The Pope, The Queen of England (Pallenberg), Madonna and James Dean. The drama is also partly set In a Brazilian forest where a community of missionary nuns bring aid to the locals.

I hope werner herzog is playing the pope

Edward III, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

anita pallenberg is in both the korine and ferrara film wtf

Edward III, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

Was there a dad joke thread a little while ago?

Will M., Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

A screwball comedy centered on a Manhattan go-go dancing club, where a financial struggle between the owner (Dafoe), his accountant (Hoskins) and his silent partner brother (Modine) threatens the business's future.

ferrara + screwball comedy = ???

Edward III, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

I guess there shd be a Cannes thread. tombot is much funnier since he kissed me.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

: O

félix pié, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

The shortest competition film (barring the possibility of last-minute editing on anyone's -- ahem, WONG, ahem -- part) is Kim Ki-Duk's Breath (oh boy). The longest is Zodiac.

The extended Death Proof is 1hr50m.

Eric H., Thursday, 19 April 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

Something from Ken Burns in the sidebar is longer than Berlin Alexanderplatz.

Eric H., Thursday, 19 April 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

Another musical history, Irving Berlin Alexanderplatz?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Thursday, 19 April 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

"I guess there shd be a Cannes thread. tombot is much funnier since he kissed me.

-- Dr Morbius, Thursday, 19 April 2007 17:52 (3 hours ago)"

wtf?

That one guy that quit, Thursday, 19 April 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

I guess Ferrara's movie about the Virgin Mary never got released? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425236/

milo z, Friday, 20 April 2007 02:06 (eighteen years ago)

Oh wow, I forgot all about that.

C0L1N B..., Friday, 20 April 2007 04:05 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
sounds like he's done a wenders

That one guy that quit, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

that ferrera film is on dvd. hell of a cast. sounds better than WKW anyway.

That one guy that quit, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

"done a wenders" - classic.

i could imagine that analogy being useable for the rest of WKW's career.

jed_, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

although Wenders' early english language films are pretty good. paris texas is more than pretty good!

jed_, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

that's true. i reckon 'hammett' had potential too but it got fucked around with &c.

That one guy that quit, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

I liked the mixed reception to Blueberry, as I wasn't part of the universal hosannas for In the Mood for Love.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 May 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

Greencine's Blueberry roundup

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

i'm gonna chalk up a lot of the disappointment to a layer of gained-in-translation dreaminess that have hallmarked WKW's non-english film. because the language is more opaque, more on-the-nosey, it lacks some of the conjectural, symbolic qualities english audiences may have ascribed to WKWs other films. beyond that, it's probable he's got a tin ear for english.

remy bean, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

Or maybe his films have become progressively more rubbish ever since Chungking Express?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

think it's worse than 2046?

s1ocki, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

he made two films after that that i think are better - ITMFL & Happy Together. having said that i rewatchwed ITMFL recently (after having seen it 4 times on it's cinema release) and i wondered why i thought i liked it so much.

xpost

jed_, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know, I haven't seen the new one. I can't remember anything about 2046 though anyway.

I liked Happy Together - it was the next one after CE, though, right?

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

funny: i didn't dislike 2046, but i hate hate hated in the mood for love. my favorites have been:

days of being wild
happy together
fallen angels
ashes of time

remy bean, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

uh, not everybody's disappointed

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

in the mood for love is a bit tedious. 2046 is a lot tedious. i don't really care about blueberry nights, but i'll probably see it at some point. it's just the way i am.

Gukbe, Thursday, 17 May 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

from Anne Thompson:

"The scenes between Law and Jones, who are falling in love at the start of the film, are magical, and closely resemble a six-minute short film Wong made at the same time as In the Mood for Love, which is set in a diner."

Anyone seen that?


Since everyone else is repeating their hoary WKW comments, 2046 rules.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 May 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

i'm gonna chalk up a lot of the disappointment to a layer of gained-in-translation dreaminess that have hallmarked WKW's non-english film.

this sounds plausible. maybe we can get someone to dub it into cantonese and put english subtitles on it. still, "a visually stunning ode to the lips of Norah Jones and Jude Law" doesn't exactly sound like the worst movie i'll see this year.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 17 May 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

Chan Marshall getting some props.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 17 May 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

seven months pass...

I'm dying for this movie to come out

I know, right?, Thursday, 27 December 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

Mr. Wong asks for complete trust from his actors, but he’s also willing to customize their roles to suit them. This was especially so with Mr. Law’s character, the cafe proprietor, who started out as a quiet type but grew more boisterous when the actor’s charisma and energy became evident. “I kept telling him to get louder,” Mr. Wong said.

This line worries me

I want exquisite silence, y'know?

I know, right?, Saturday, 5 January 2008 14:33 (seventeen years ago)

seriously this is going to suck so much ass. don't torture yourself.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 5 January 2008 14:43 (seventeen years ago)

holy shit this is going to be bad.

s1ocki, Saturday, 5 January 2008 19:38 (seventeen years ago)

it looks terrible!

admrl, Saturday, 5 January 2008 20:41 (seventeen years ago)

Also...it's called MY BLUEBERRY NIGHTS!

admrl, Saturday, 5 January 2008 20:42 (seventeen years ago)

I've had a few blueberry nights in my time, but I've never been in a hurry to remember them.

admrl, Saturday, 5 January 2008 20:42 (seventeen years ago)

i saw a movie with that name a few days ago here in rotterdam. it was horrible.

chiquita, Saturday, 5 January 2008 23:04 (seventeen years ago)

didn't this come out last summer? anyway yeah the word is not good

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 5 January 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

The HK DVD is out in a little over a week it looks like...

http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/code-w/section-index/pid-1010046194/

Jeff LeVine, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:08 (seventeen years ago)

some website has a pool going on the actual US release date (now April, I think)

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 21:50 (seventeen years ago)

why don't you link us there?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:05 (seventeen years ago)

ha, i've been in touch with a publicist about this for a while... she's saying maybe march but i don't really trust her..

s1ocki, Thursday, 7 February 2008 00:43 (seventeen years ago)

out in the UK in two weeks.

interview with our very own norah jones.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2008/02/09/bfnorah109.xml

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, 9 February 2008 11:51 (seventeen years ago)

It's not really good. You get what you'd expect from a WKW movie but not in the masterful manner of his previous films. Then again, i'm probably not the best judge of this film as I fell asleep time and time again during the showing. Going to see a movie at the theatre while being really tired is not the best way to enjoy a movie, though I always find it very refreshing to do so.

Jibe, Saturday, 9 February 2008 14:34 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

new date for US is April 4, diff cut than Cannes.

http://www.cinematical.com/2008/03/06/theres-a-new-release-date-and-version-of-my-blueberry-nights/

Dr Morbius, Friday, 7 March 2008 15:31 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

It's an Armond rave!

Jones’ placid, biracial beauty helps clarify Wong’s feeling for women. A close-up of Jones’ lips stretching into a smile as she sleeps—a dreaming smile—is one of the cinema’s great sensuous icons. This uncanny gift for erotic empathy isn’t just an example of Asian exoticism—it’s also the way Wong presents Weisz and Portman. Neither actress has been so convincing and alluring as they are here.... It’s Wong’s most tactile film—almost as if he's found a new medium. Working in video with cinematographer Darius Khondji, Wong sharpens his usual ideas and images and emotions. Sensations result.

http://nypress.com/21/14/film/ArmondWhite.cfm

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 19:07 (seventeen years ago)

i hope "Sensations result!" gets quoted on the poster

s1ocki, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 19:10 (seventeen years ago)

or "placid, biracial."

lauren, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 19:14 (seventeen years ago)

"Lava-like sludge... ennui made iridescent!"

s1ocki, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 19:16 (seventeen years ago)

"Tactile!"

amateurist, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 19:54 (seventeen years ago)

"Not just an example of Asian exoticism!"

remy bean, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 19:57 (seventeen years ago)

much as i like his stuff, i get really turned off these days by cross-industry star turns. yes, norah jones is striking/exotic, and good for her that she'd like to act, but aren't there hundreds of other equally striking/exotic young women out there who would like to act, too. who in fact ONLY want to act? can't you spare me feeling like you've made a huge concession in your casting just for that extra marketing hook?

i'll probably see it eventually, somehow, but i'm not running to the theater the way i would be normally. (and i'm a portman fan, too.)

mitya, Thursday, 3 April 2008 03:06 (seventeen years ago)

i feel really bad for the striking exotic young women of hollywood tonight.

s1ocki, Thursday, 3 April 2008 03:11 (seventeen years ago)

It's an Armond rave!

oh no.

i'm sure i'll enjoy this movie. whether i'll be able to defend it is a lot less clear.

tipsy mothra, Thursday, 3 April 2008 03:23 (seventeen years ago)

"A close-up of Jones’ lips stretching into a smile as she sleeps—a dreaming smile—is one of the cinema’s great sensuous icons."

This is indeed one of the great icons of the cinema wtf?

Raw Patrick, Thursday, 3 April 2008 12:14 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.moreno-stone.co.il/playground/humor/photo/smile%20cat.jpg

s1ocki, Thursday, 3 April 2008 22:15 (seventeen years ago)

all you think about is pussy

remy bean, Thursday, 3 April 2008 22:19 (seventeen years ago)

This has lost 20 minutes since Cannes.

Dr Morbius, Friday, 4 April 2008 13:15 (seventeen years ago)

think the weinsteins messed with it; on the other hand WKW is pretty famous for recutting his own stuff a lot. the only reason to see this is to be able to take issue with armond w. it sounds like complete bullshit.

banriquit, Friday, 4 April 2008 13:21 (seventeen years ago)

A.O. Scott no likee very much.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 4 April 2008 13:22 (seventeen years ago)

could it be worse than 2046, i wonder?

s1ocki, Friday, 4 April 2008 14:00 (seventeen years ago)

sight and sound rather liked it, I think

caek, Friday, 4 April 2008 14:02 (seventeen years ago)

nomfup

banriquit, Friday, 4 April 2008 14:04 (seventeen years ago)

What was depressing about this movie was how many great/interesting things got destroyed by the shitty things (bad dialogue/jude law). I love all the shots through glass and the extreme out of focus things. But seriously jude law is just horrible.

I know, right?, Saturday, 5 April 2008 11:27 (seventeen years ago)

three weeks pass...

down to just Angelika in NY, shd I go?

Dr Morbius, Friday, 2 May 2008 21:13 (seventeen years ago)

going to see this on monday

s1ocki, Friday, 2 May 2008 21:20 (seventeen years ago)

saw this last week and was the only one in the theater. it's not very good. and i loved 2046.

norah jones was surprisingly ok but yeah jude law & natalie portman were terrible.

maybe its only(?) redeeming quality: hot pie shots

johnny crunch, Friday, 2 May 2008 21:35 (seventeen years ago)

tedious.

s1ocki, Monday, 5 May 2008 18:45 (seventeen years ago)

did a morbz go?

s1ocki, Monday, 5 May 2008 19:53 (seventeen years ago)

the hot pie shots were more gross than appetizing

impudent harlot, Monday, 5 May 2008 19:53 (seventeen years ago)

also: this sucked

impudent harlot, Monday, 5 May 2008 19:54 (seventeen years ago)

i hain't gone, no. It doesn't look likely; the Hou movie is already playing at a reduced sched at IFC Center, and I'd rather see that.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 5 May 2008 19:55 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

This isn't bad. Norah Jones was just fine; main problem is the Law and Jones characters aren't particularly compelling as conceived, esp compared to Strathairn, Portman, or even CHAN.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 13:56 (seventeen years ago)

i thought the actors were the least of this movie's problems, it was just tedious.

s1ocki, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 14:20 (seventeen years ago)

not until Nevada, I thought. Even then, mostly at the poker scenes.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 14:32 (seventeen years ago)

the only time i really noticed norah's inexperience was in the portman scenes... she was playing such a demonstrative flamboyant character it seemed to really cow NJ.

s1ocki, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 14:33 (seventeen years ago)

M Sicinski:

I would submit that Wong's work has never been about "character" per se so much as image-of-character, a kind of iconicity that reverberates in the memory after loss. So flatness, or at least a partial flattening, or a tendency toward subsuming the character into the role of a figure in a painterly landscape of the mind, hardly seems damning in the context of a Wong-goes-to-"America" project. No, what matters is that everything is rather frothy, even the moments of poignancy. The pie filling is canned, not fresh. (Doesn't this tell us something concrete and specific about the connections between American culture and life in Hong Kong?) So for instance, Sue Lynne (Rachel Weisz) offers a rather wan emotional-breakdown speech, but almost immediately Wong offers us a near-still image of Sue Lynne standing beside her convertible, just before she blows town. This is the kind of perfectly etched encapsulation of neon-Hopper Americana that poor, hapless Wim Wenders would give his left nut to be able to generate these days.

http://academichack.net/reviewsApril2008.htm#Blueberry

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 14:53 (seventeen years ago)

"a kind of iconicity that reverberates in the memory after loss... subsuming the character into the role of a figure in a painterly landscape of the mind "

fancy!

banriquit, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 14:55 (seventeen years ago)

four weeks pass...

This movie was dreadful.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 10 July 2008 13:47 (seventeen years ago)

Even the cinematography was weak by his standards. And terrible acting across the board (although not sure this utterly tedious and humorless script would have worked better with his regular cast either.) And (Jude's) melting ice cream seeping into (Jones') blueberry pie not an image I want with me. Ick.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 10 July 2008 13:49 (seventeen years ago)

yaow. i kind of liked it. there was something so once-removed about it, like the fact that it was wkw's impression of eggleston-esque day-glo america, but shot through his eyes, and the fact that two of the actresses were like soul singers but kind of ersatz modern day once removed soul singers, it felt sort of apposite. it looked beautiful, too, i think. no christopher doyle, but it was total rich syrup to look at throughout.

schlump, Thursday, 10 July 2008 17:02 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, totally underrated, it's only shite by WKW standards. I hated how he used the Tony Leung theme in it though. There was no Tony Leung! Basically if Tony Leung was in it instead of Jude Law, even just if he was speaking entirely in Cantonese and there was no subtitles I would have preferred it. A lot.

I know, right?, Thursday, 10 July 2008 17:14 (seventeen years ago)

Is hot.

I know, right?, Thursday, 10 July 2008 17:14 (seventeen years ago)

I keep thinking Law was the worst thing about it, but then I remember Rachel Weisz and Norah Jones and David Straithern and Cat Power and Nathalie Portman and I realize everyone sucked badly which leads me to think that the real problems were probably script/direction related. It's nearly impossible for Hong Kong directors to succeed stateside (going back for like ever) so it doesn't shock me that WKW followed the John Woo path and sucked at it too.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 10 July 2008 17:41 (seventeen years ago)

I thought Cat Power was great actually.

I know, right?, Thursday, 10 July 2008 17:49 (seventeen years ago)

I could see him working well with Nicole Kidman maybe.

I know, right?, Thursday, 10 July 2008 17:50 (seventeen years ago)

Maybe if she speaks Chinese.

Alex in SF, Thursday, 10 July 2008 18:08 (seventeen years ago)

wkw is completely down the toiler

s1ocki, Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:32 (seventeen years ago)

so is kidman.

jed_, Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:33 (seventeen years ago)

!

I know, right?, Thursday, 10 July 2008 21:37 (seventeen years ago)

six months pass...

So we watched this last night, my first Wong Kar Wai film after years of film students and lecturers raving about him to me. It was like watching a bad Flickr account come to life. Jude Law's a prick, his accent was from the wrong side of the Pennines, it had no plot whatsoever, and the lead actress was the least capable of the three principal females. I have no desire to investigate Wong Kar Wai any further. Am I wrong?

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 09:31 (sixteen years ago)

It was not a good place to start. Try Chungking Express or In the Mood for Love and if you don't like them, quit trying.

Enrique (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 09:34 (sixteen years ago)

Do they look like bad Flickr accounts? Cos if it's all shot through glass or as reflections or with out of focus objects in the super-foreground with that yellow saturation and neon / black palette I'm going to get pretty tired pretty quick.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 09:48 (sixteen years ago)

EVERYONE in MBN looked like they had liver disease.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 09:49 (sixteen years ago)

Which in the case of Jude Law isn't a bad thing.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 09:49 (sixteen years ago)

Dude (or his DP) was at the forefront of the bad Flickr aesthetic.

Enrique (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 09:51 (sixteen years ago)

Shame.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 10:03 (sixteen years ago)

In the mood for love's a beautiful film, though. see it at a cinema if you can. the surface (dis)connects well with the substance, if that makes sense.

is this a cunning (Baldrick style) plan to obtain the reward money? (stevie), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 11:09 (sixteen years ago)

I voted to nominate Norah Jones for Best Actress, that's how sensational a year it was.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 15:13 (sixteen years ago)

I have no desire to investigate Wong Kar Wai any further. Am I wrong?

He's a shallow director, and not without charms. I like Happy Together a lot, 2046 less so.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 15:17 (sixteen years ago)

Happy Together and In the Mood for Love are both nicely sensual. 2046 is a gorgeous slog. I, too, have very little motivation to really dig into Wong's work.

Eric H., Tuesday, 13 January 2009 15:23 (sixteen years ago)

i've only seen Chungking Express but I thought it was pretty great.

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 15:28 (sixteen years ago)

Tony Leung talking to household items = awesome.

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 15:29 (sixteen years ago)

I like Days of Being Wild and Happy Together a lot, and 2046 is the closest he's come to a masterwork.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 15:31 (sixteen years ago)

I voted to nominate Norah Jones for Best Actress, that's how sensational a year it was.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:13 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no, that's how much of a spaz you are.

special guest stars mark bronson, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 15:33 (sixteen years ago)

enrique, ladies.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 15:34 (sixteen years ago)

Yes?

Enrique (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 15:41 (sixteen years ago)

What have I done now?

Enrique (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 13 January 2009 15:59 (sixteen years ago)

who is s.g.s.m.b., then?

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 16:02 (sixteen years ago)

:p

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 13 January 2009 16:03 (sixteen years ago)

Enrique is every ILXor. It's all in he.

Eric H., Tuesday, 13 January 2009 16:16 (sixteen years ago)

two months pass...

watching MBN - Jude Law the same old laddish 1990s drama student type, like in Alfie: how on Earth has this person been so consistently acclaimed, when he drags down any picture with this bad mode of his?

the pinefox, Sunday, 22 March 2009 18:51 (sixteen years ago)

don't think the laundry list of faults with MBN can really be put down to Jude Law.

The Devil's Avocado (Gukbe), Sunday, 22 March 2009 18:56 (sixteen years ago)

No, maybe not!

It was kind of OK, by WKW standards, between the time she left him (c.20 mins) and the time he comes back on screen (c.35 minutes). Then you get Law being Law again, gurning his UK thespian BS down a telephone. 'No, I don't want to order your fried chicken'. He's excruciating !!!

the pinefox, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:19 (sixteen years ago)

OK, that film is pretty poor, but one thing that can be stated with confidence is that Norah Jones is NOT the worst thing in it. It actually gets worse when Natalie Portman shows up.

the pinefox, Sunday, 22 March 2009 21:30 (sixteen years ago)

Excruciating is actually the perfect word for JL in this.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 22 March 2009 23:28 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

i don't hate fallen angels. its the only one i've seen.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 12 July 2009 07:23 (sixteen years ago)

hahahah ok wait what the fuck is this diner brawl that looks like something out of footloose

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 12 July 2009 07:24 (sixteen years ago)

maybe watch happy together or in the mood for love first, btw Tony Leung = dreamy

❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Sunday, 12 July 2009 10:09 (sixteen years ago)

wnkiw post-fallen angels wkw.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Sunday, 12 July 2009 10:13 (sixteen years ago)

wnkiw?

i think i was wrong about ITMFL. even wong's good stuff is pretty bad i reckon. still looks gorgeous though.

jed_, Sunday, 12 July 2009 11:16 (sixteen years ago)

would not kick it with.

even wong's good stuff is pretty bad

looool.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Sunday, 12 July 2009 12:14 (sixteen years ago)

I wonder if I would hate all of them if they were in english, like a romantic haze of orientalism adds to the enjoyment mebbe, if so kinda sad :_;

❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Sunday, 12 July 2009 12:16 (sixteen years ago)

i like the earlier ones more coz christopher doyle's camerawork is pretty exciting + gun battles.

FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Sunday, 12 July 2009 12:20 (sixteen years ago)

i was a bit rash there, i think that i would probably still like happy together.

& i should see ashes of time i suppose.

jed_, Sunday, 12 July 2009 12:27 (sixteen years ago)


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