Would anyone like to anticipate the looming London evening newspaper wars?

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As of 4 September, London is going to have a new free evening paper, published by the Murdoch empire. The Evening Standard are going to launch their own freebie in a bid to fight it off.

Everyone is promising much, but will anyone deliver? Or do ILXors think Murdoch vs Rothermere is like choosing whether you want to be deaf or blind?

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

Yes.

― Earwig oh! (Mark C), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just old enough to remember the Evening News (does it still say "Incorporating the Evening News" on the Standard's masthead?) and also Maxwell's London Daily News (which prompted the Standard to temporarily revive the Evening News as a cheaper rival). Surprisingly, I also remember the London Daily News jingle, played on Capital Radio and/or LBC.

"Phone LONDON Daily News classified / on Five Eight Two Four Thoouuusand" (I may well have the number wrong).

I'm glad that an evening newspaper war can still exist.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

I've been very closely involved in building the editorial team for the Murdoch paper and I'm actually quite looking forward to it. The next couple of months will be very interesting. The ownership of both titles will be largely irrelevant, I think - very few people read the Metro and think "urgh, Daily Mail".

I don't know anything for sure, but from what I can gather the Murdoch launch will be aimed at the trendy young urbanite market, lots of gossip and lifestyle, lots of multicultural interest, maybe a bit of a 'daily Time Out' feel. I suspect it's highly unlikely to be particularly political (much like the Metro really). If they do it well (good listings, bar/restaurant recommendations and news and sport stuff that people haven't already read on the internet) it could be a decent lightweight commuter read.

The Standard freebie is a hastily cobbled-together rebrand of the existing Standard Lite that will be going for the older suburbanite Evening Standard type market. I'm not sure how this is intended to boost sales of the Standard (which are going to be hit anyway) in any shape or form.

― No one in particular (Matt DC), Thursday, 24 August 2006 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

that sounds kind of likely, yeah; 'the times' itself seems to be trying to corner this particular(ly vile) demographic.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

Why is that a particularly vile demographic? The Sun, Express, Telegraph, Mail and even the Standard have demographics that are a million times worse.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

why introduce an evening newspaper, out of curiosity? are there still successful evening newspapers in the uk or us?

― Maria (Maria), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

afternoon newspaper rather than evening - it'll hit the streets around 4pm i believe

also the dominant evening paper at the moment, the standard, is a) not free and b) evil

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

true. it's cos i know people who might read the times, but would turn their noses up at the others (but then i'd rate the torygraph above that lot, and the times).

xpost

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

very few people read the Metro and think "urgh, Daily Mail".

Actually, I find the Metro's reporting style and its priorities pretty horrible, so I pretty much do think "urgh, Daily Mail". I'm assuming we get exactly the same Metro (with different entertainment listings) up here, right?

― emil.y (emil.y), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

why introduce an evening newspaper, out of curiosity? are there still successful evening newspapers in the uk or us?

London in particular has a very large captive market of people sitting on trains for an hour or two every day. The evening market isn't really catered to adequately at the moment - the one paper that does exist, the Evening Standard, is aimed largely at grumpy upper middle-class types from Surbiton and doesn't really make much of an effort to 'talk to' most Londoners. Because it's been the only afternoon paper, it hasn't really had to.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

agreed. i think its a hateful rag...

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

so this is just going to be standard lite moved later? surely they can't sustain a 'lite' and 'late' while trying to sell a full price at the same time.

― rtccc (mwah), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Can other people actually figure out a common political standpoint in the Metro? It seems to vaccillate wildly between poles (which I have far less problem with than the actual quality of the writing)

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

i think they're getting rid of 'lite'.

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

It's going to be called LondonLite, I believe.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

So a sort of Radio Two of newspapers, then.

― Scourage (Haberdager), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if they're considering future expansion to Manchester to challenge the Evening News. Or Glasgow/Evening Times for that matter.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

MATT - answer julia's text message! i need to know too!

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

FITE

"oh YOU were going to intersperse news, comment, and entertainment listings too, OH SURE"

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 25 August 2006 08:21 (nineteen years ago)

what happened to The London Line?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 25 August 2006 08:39 (nineteen years ago)

Don't know. But London Lite launches today. Going after that elusive "24-36" demographic, who apparently are only interested in Big Brother and football.

Meanwhile, the editor of the Murdoch one has said he's only doing one edition a day because multiple editions is "a pre-internet idea".

God help us all...

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 07:01 (nineteen years ago)

There was a test run of London Lite that went out on Friday. It was pretty dreadful.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 07:50 (nineteen years ago)

londonlite is ugly and shitty. worse than metro.

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Monday, 4 September 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

But London Lite launches today. Going after that elusive "24-36" demographic, who apparently are only interested in Big Brother and football.

i just checked out their website at www.ilxor.com, and it certainly seems to be the case

― -- (688), Monday, 4 September 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

Page 4 of the first edition of the London Lite was 'Most Britons now feel threatened by Islam' which is not really the cuddly inclusive message that they should be sending out to Ken's London, is it?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

It's also not very LITE!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

Lite on content amirite I kill me I should be on stage

― beanz (beanz), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone still have a copy of friday's London Lite at all? i did a last minute TV review for them, but did not go out into town that day and so couldn't get one.

― i am not a nugget (stevie), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

All of ILX is a stage,
we are all going through...

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Just picked up a copy of thelondonpaper - it LOOKS really nice and clean, a bit like the Independent, and it has a cool 'future Tube map' on page 10. Quite feature led and light on actual news by the looks of things.

I haven't actually read any of it yet so will reserve judgement until I do.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

They're splashing on Croc Hunter, which is a bit odd as the editor has been banging on for weeks about it being a paper for internet generation. Surely the internet generation are now aware of Mr Irwin's untimely demise?

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Cool future Tube map:

http://www.cix.co.uk/~gidds/Snaps/America/257_PacificOcean.jpeg

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

does the future tube map feature TUBES IN THE AIR like on futurama?

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

even the today programme generation are well aware of the croc hunter death

― Ed (dali), Monday, 4 September 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if they're considering future expansion to Manchester to challenge the Evening News. Or Glasgow/Evening Times for that matter.
-- Mädchen (madchen_in_unifor...), August 24th, 2006 3:57 PM. (Madchen)

Daily Record beat them to it. In Glasgow, at least.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 4 September 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://markandrich.googlepages.com/thelondonfaker

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 4 September 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, those are saucy tights for such a miserable day.

― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Monday, 4 September 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. I passed the purple sofa on the walk to work, and wondered what it was for. I just assumed the chiX0r in the tights and purple umbrella was a typical streetnut as she was wandering about Soho and talking to herself.

― Goldene Schnitt (kate), Monday, 4 September 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

the london lite is a lot better than the london paper, metro experience I guess, it is basically the metro, more news more local info. The lon don paper seems to be doing better advertising wise. Its quite clear that neither is breaking even right now.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 4 September 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah right sorry.:

http://rwillmsen.livejournal.com/35612.html

― Ricky Willmsenman (gatinhathree), Monday, 4 September 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone else been tempted to buy a copy of the Evening Standard for the first time ever as a kind of protest, or is it just me?!

― Ricky Willmsenman (gatinhathree), Monday, 4 September 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

No, because we've all bought the damn thing already.

― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Monday, 4 September 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

They need to get one or the other of the papers inside the stations asap - people find it annoying enough having to dodge chuggers/students giving out pieces of marketing tat without having two sets of purple-shirted workers waving free papers in front of you. One of the reasons why the Metro works is because people feel free to pick one up or ignore it entirely so it feels like less of an imposition.

Ed - afaik there's no overlap between the Metro and London Lite. But the London Lite has pretty much the same editorial team as the Standard Lite, which is where the experience comes from. Also there's a fair bit of overlap between the Lite and the Standard proper. From what I can gather The London Paper has a much younger team - it reads disappointingly like a student paper in places and the over-pixellated photos don't help. The Metro is pretty good at doing frivolous lifestyle stuff and they need to get closer to that.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 4 September 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

When Metro started (at least up here) there were gaggles of blue-sweatshirted over-enthusiastic promotion gonks handing them out at every exit of Central Station, just until yer average muppet in the street realised it existed and then they just left it lying around places for you to take (or not) as you wished.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 4 September 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently there were scantily-clad girls on mopeds handing out copies of the Glasgow PM today.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 4 September 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Oh noes, I missed it! Will they be alternating with scantily-clad blokes for when I'm in Glasgow on Wednesday?

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 4 September 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, why don't they have DDBs handing out these free newspapers? I swear, that's the only time I bought @rtr0cker that time.

― Goldene Schnitt (kate), Monday, 4 September 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

No, but apparently all the Evening Times vendors will be in speedos.

x-post

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 4 September 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Marvellous. I think I'll take the bus.

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 4 September 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

For crying out loud - a walk through zone 1 today and I encountered ninety grillion people thrusting both papers into your hands and I guess the London Paper has bought up all the available white vans going and stencilled their logo on the side as they were clogging up the roads on the ONE day I decide to walk down to Trafalgar Square and get a bus - they must stop now, else I will stop them, and I do not want to go to jail (yet). London Paper had Doherty on the cover, sooo sheyah like I'm going to take one of those. And I'll have to start taking a different route southbound.

― Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 4 September 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

Incidentally they were at peak capacity from at least Warren St in the north down to the roundabout at the end of Westminster Bridge Road as you approach Elephant and Castle.

And why are they both purple anyway?

― Bhumibol Adulyadej (Lucretia My Reflection), Monday, 4 September 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Goth appeal.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

"please donate used eyeliner and stripey tights", that sort of thing?

― ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

i don't like the human interaction involved in taking a free evening paper.

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

Do you like human interaction?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

Knowledge is clearly there in the organisation though and the print style is very similar.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 10:39 (nineteen years ago)

no.

xpost

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

I would quite like a monthly London magazine. Smoke meets Time Out I suppose, ideally no affiliation to any newspapers from big media groups and no smug self-indulgent columns like you get in those.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

why a monthly larndarn mag, and not a weekly one like the once-great time out?

actually maybe oz was monthly.

and it was fortnightly?

bring it back.

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

NI has registered domains for theglasgowpaper and theedinburghpaper as well as thelondonpaper

― stet (stet), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I'm not sure why anyone would want a London monthly, especially given the pace of things in this city and the fact the weekly format is better for listings.

Meanwhile, in other news:

LONDON - Competition in the London free press market is to get even more intense with the launch at the end of the month of a weekly free sports-themed men's magazine, called Sport, a format imported from France.

Sport will be published every Friday from September 29 and will be aimed at ABC1 men aged 18 to 40, pitched as a sports-themed rival to the likes of GQ and Esquire. However, its closest competitor is likely to be the Observer Sport Monthly

The photo-led magazine will feature exclusive sports interviews, match previews and a guide to sports coverage on TV, as well as features on participation sports such as extreme mountain climbing and freestyle skateboarding. It is understood that around two-thirds of its covers will lead with football.

Paris-based publisher Sport Medias et Strategies has set up a UK office for the launch, and has appointed Greg Miall, former director of global sales for Metro International, as publishing director, and Simon Caney, who previously edited Emap's football title Match, as editor-in-chief.

Sport was launched two years ago by Francis Jaluzot, who previously launched the Paris freesheet 20Minutes. It is now distributed in 11 cities and with a circulation of 525,000 copies a week, it claims to reach more men in the country than any other title. It became profitable at the end of last year.

The UK edition will be handed out between 7am and 9.30am at underground stations and train stations identified as having a high concentration of its target audience, and will be distributed through gyms and sports clubs, company headquarters and through exclusive airline partnerships with British Airways, BMI and Virgin.

It will have a print run of 350,000, extending to 400,000 after two months, when it will be distributed to other UK cities.

The UK launch is backed by £7m from international investors, including Lord Sebastian Coe, who will also write a weekly column.

Each 48-page issue of the UK magazine -- Sport's first international edition -- will run 12 ad pages, six of them right-hand pages.

To date, sports advertisers have accounted for around one-fifth of the revenue, with the rest coming from male-oriented big brands in such markets as cars, grooming and consumer electronics.

Progress Communications is planning a promotional campaign ahead of the launch, to include email and viral marketing as traditional media work.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

free tit-mag?

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

awseome.

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

I would prefer a monthly mag precisely because that pace is more to my own personal preference and fits my lifestyle more. Listings not so important - better online.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

NI has registered domains for theglasgowpaper and theedinburghpaper as well as thelondonpaper

and Cardiff and Liverpool and Manchester...

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

will the sport magazine have a tennis section?

i can only take a sport magazine seriously if its tennis section is bigger than its football section (pref in the ratio of 50 pages : 1 page)

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

a free london monthly with interviews with jelena jankovic and ekaterina bychkova would be AWESOME though

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

Can't say I wa sthat impresse dby the London paper last night, but it is early days. Teh love Page was terrible, the tube map intereesting but printed too small to read any of the new bits and the news was too gushy.

I was particularly annoyed by the Editor's line on it not being political? Does he not know any Skunk Anansie lyrics? The london paper will be actively sticking its fingers in its ears and going blah blah blah when politcs arises?

Quite liked the Polish guy.

Advert on back page and ABSOLUTE KILLER for potential sports readers.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

the 'nu-tube' map was full of inaccuracies, it had been very poorly researched (new stop for hoxton clubbers will be shoreditch high street not hoxton, ELL incorrectly labelled as a tube line and not running to Highbury and Islington, Met line to watford junction not put in, Hammersmith and City and Met line Aldgate/Barking swap not put in).

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

OK the croxley rail link is unlikely to be in place by 2012.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

More to the point, the station names were unreadable.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

it looked like the ace x-rail map from a couple of years ago, but without the x-rail and the wacky "transits" on, ie wonky central line, flask all distorted round paddington...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

I see they poached P@ul C0nn0lly from NI for London Lite.

I loathe the stupidity of London Lite because of the LAZINESS - a transport strike is always covered as 'those inconsiderate workers ruining our commute' and women are either shopping, saving up for Botox or trying to become pregnoids, or having nervous breakdowns over not being pregnoids. And oh yeah the Islamophobia (the real story, I gather, is Muslim mums sending their daughters to do Arabic and Urdu so they can argue the toss with hoary old imams about what's in the books; one woman I know says young mums are terrified of fundies getting claws in their kids).

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

More to the point, the station names were unreadable.

yes! i had to really squint. is one of the new lines really going to be called the greenwich something trench? TRENCH!

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

When are we getting our full tramlink? I DEMAND to have a tramlink!

(And they should have run the Hipster Line to us instead of Clapham, dammit. Like Clapham needs any more train lines.)

― Curtis Incest (kate), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

And oh yeah the Islamophobia (the real story, I gather, is Muslim mums sending their daughters to do Arabic and Urdu so they can argue the toss with hoary old imams about what's in the books; one woman I know says young mums are terrified of fundies getting claws in their kids).

dare i sound a slight note of caution here?

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

The Greenwich trench will be a vital front in the North London vs South London war from 2009-2013.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'm with the Norts!

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

None of these papers is as good as the Streatham, Clapham and West Norwood Post. I'm with the Sarfs. Man the trenches! I'm erecting a ditch and embankment system around Lambeth.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

The Greenwich trench will be a vital front in the North London vs South London war from 2009-2013.

london v kent, you mean

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

"The Greenwich trench will be a vital front in the North London vs South London war"
Surely it's called "the River Thames"?

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

According to the London Paper this evening, rap star P Diddy was just let off for possession of crack, heroin, and cannabis, as long he still does his £25,000 a week rehab. But the judge likes his new single.

Yes, that's right - P Diddy. I guess this is the same P Diddy that's having an on-off relationship with supermodel Kate Winslet.

WTF.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

The Tube is finally coming to South East London?

Glory be!

― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

i don't understand why introduce a free sheet to compete with your own evening title? why not just make the evening standard free?
and there i was, wondering where last year's great profits went....

― dahlin (dahlin), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 00:26 (nineteen years ago)

If somebody else is going to be launching a free newspaper then the Evening Standard was going to die. They needed to launch their own free title to stop thelondonpaper just simply taking over the market whilst also squeezing the last bit of money out of people still willing to pay for a paper (the Standard's price just went up to take account of the likely smaller sales).

― theantmustdance (theantmustdance), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

They could, you know, make the Evening Standard better so its something people actually want to pay for. Rather than relying on its former monopoly, under which most people bought it because it was the only real option there.

It will get even more sensationalist with its headlines, I predict. Yesterday's headline = BLAIR GONE WITHIN A YEAR, which makes you think they've got an enormous scoop when in reality it was nothing of the sort.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 08:28 (nineteen years ago)

supermodel Kate Winslet.

um...

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 08:30 (nineteen years ago)

um... that was the point... oh well.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 08:50 (nineteen years ago)

i laughed!

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

surely what determines which paper a particular person will read is going to be based on which paper is closest to one's seat on the tube at the time?

if they distrubute it upstairs on BUSES, it'd be a winner.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 08:54 (nineteen years ago)

apologies, sarcasmeter temporarily on the fritz

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

hasn't the sun has an actual date on today's one? or i guess that's your point?

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

i think my mum's new nextdoor neighbour works on technology for BENDY SCREENS. ie one day it'll be like spielberg's 'minority report', where you carry round this ting and unroll it to read the newspaper via the internets.

that's when i'll start reading newspapers again.

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

I got given both last night. The front page of LITE gave me a headache because it was too tabloidy so I read The London Paper first because they didn't manage to misspell their own name (and a design student inside it was slagging the design off for being too "like the Guardian").

But it was still all sex and celebrities which I find kind of tedious. Because I've never heard of any of their celebrities. And their sex survey was hilarious because of how the gender lines panned out - I guess all those males must be having threesomes with each other because the females' numbers didn't add up.

But the time I got to LITE I was just sex and celebbed out and couldn't take any more.

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

will those bendy screens be free then?

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

other inventors my mother has known include someone whose radio telephone network was going to revolutionize africa.

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

I think I spoke to him in my last job! They're basically elaborate walkie-talkies for people who only ever need to speak to one person, right?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 09:06 (nineteen years ago)

Bit like the Aja/Dante board on the sandbox then?

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

I guess all those males must be having threesomes with each other because the females' numbers didn't add up

Or they're all having threesomes with the same girls?

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

I think I spoke to him in my last job! They're basically elaborate walkie-talkies for people who only ever need to speak to one person, right?
-- Matt DC (runmd...), September 6th, 2006.

tbh i can't remember but we were on the trial scheme in cambridge iirc, back in the day (the africanet would have been diff i guess). anyhoo it died a death.

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

I've now read and abhored thelondonpaper. Spent the journey home swearing at it. The front page is all about PERVERTS taking pictures of children in Travalgar Square and sharing them with other PERVERTS on the internet. Horribly lazy - especially when they really seem to be talking about NONCES. If you're going to mimic the Mail, it's important to get these things right.

And then the story about a LONDONER who was assaulted on a trip out of town for the crime of being a LONDONER. Except that.. that's not quite true. He was assaulted for talking like a posh sod. Dear thelondonpaper, there's a difference, you know.

― Nicholas Passant (Nicholas Passant), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Trafalgar, rather. Flicking through thelondonpaper made my eyes bleed and hands turn into claws, thus making typing and proof-reading tricky.

Dear thelondonpaper, you could put that on your letters page with all the other compliments if you wished.

― Nicholas Passant (Nicholas Passant), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Best things about thelondonpaper = Pet Of The Day and one cut-out recipe per day. Absurdly simple concepts that will last forever.

It occurred to me today that they should've launched without even the pretence of containing any news and just gone for a daily magazine feel. Afternoon newspapers just aren't suited to the one edition per day format.

I suppose the acid test of both papers will be how they react when some really bad shit happens in London.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

the front page of one of them yesterday was, if i recall it right "pervs found in square".

is that what it's come to, this fine city of ours? really?

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Thursday, 7 September 2006 07:13 (nineteen years ago)

The Standard has been doing the cut out recipe for about fifteen years! Pet Of The Day = Pet Of The Week in Guardian magazine...

The Trafalgar Square story was appalling. There was minor back up, it was scaremongering and was basically "voyeurs like to look at people, and you can look at people in Trafalgar Square".

― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 7 September 2006 08:25 (nineteen years ago)

the piece in thelondonpaper where they sent a reporter to chez bruce to work in the kitchen for a day was:

a. pretty badly written
b. cut off halfway through a sentence (not even the last sentence as far as i could tell)
c. had their web address as www.thelondonpaper.

rubbish.

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 7 September 2006 08:27 (nineteen years ago)

Much apologising to P Diddy in yesterday's edition.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:57 (nineteen years ago)

The apology when they printed a picture of P.Diddy next to a Pete Doherty has scarfed loads of drugs in yetserdays London paper was pretty funny.

― Pete (Pete), Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:57 (nineteen years ago)

I read that piece about the PERVERTS. I haven't read anything so histronic in years

― stet (stet), Thursday, 7 September 2006 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

have you not read the petridis thread?

― a rapper singing about hos and bitches and money (Enrique), Thursday, 7 September 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the perverts thing was actually a parody!

― Angel In Love With Her Own Pedals (kate), Thursday, 7 September 2006 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

pick up thelondonpaper today, everyone!

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:30 (nineteen years ago)

no, it's fucking shit.

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:33 (nineteen years ago)

Lex has a new job at the Tidy Britain campaign.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:40 (nineteen years ago)

So last week, Lex...

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:41 (nineteen years ago)

one way to tidy britain would be for the right-wing media moguls to STOP DUMPING THEIR FILTH ON THE LONDON STREETS EACH EVENING.

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:42 (nineteen years ago)

anyway what's the story?

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:42 (nineteen years ago)

akala. ms dynamite's brother

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 08:02 (nineteen years ago)

there's a story about ms dynamite's brother.

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 08:03 (nineteen years ago)

he's nominated for the mobos. he's a v nice young man. pick up the paper anyway!

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 08:05 (nineteen years ago)

How posh are they anyway?

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 08:05 (nineteen years ago)

i p-p-p-icked up the paper on monday, and ended up unlearning the english language simply on the off-chance i might be tempted to read it again.

― EARLY-90S MAN (Enrique), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/jun/22/5

― banriquit, Thursday, 26 June 2008 15:21 (seventeen years ago)

please take the Standard with it

― blueski, Thursday, 26 June 2008 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/78/It%27sAllOverNowBabyBlue-Them.jpg

― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Thursday, 26 June 2008 15:30 (seventeen years ago)

"Or do ILXors think Murdoch vs Rothermere is like choosing whether you want to be deaf or blind?"
http://itsmelove.exteen.com/images/See%20no%20Evil%20%20Speak%20no%20Evil%20Hear%20no%20Evil%201.jpg
Lol at everything Enrique's said. Also its things like this that make me happy we have The Metro.
Wait.
No.

― VeronaInTheClub, Thursday, 26 June 2008 15:45 (seventeen years ago)

"Or do ILXors think Murdoch vs Rothermere is like choosing whether you want to be deaf or blind?"
http://itsmelove.exteen.com/images/See%20no%20Evil%20%20Speak%20no%20Evil%20Hear%20no%20Evil%201.jpg

― VeronaInTheClub, Thursday, 26 June 2008 15:45 (seventeen years ago)

"Or do ILXors think Murdoch vs Rothermere is like choosing whether you want to be deaf or blind?"
http://itsmelove.exteen.com/images/See%20no%20Evil%20%20Speak%20no%20Evil%20Hear%20no%20Evil%201.jpg
Lol at everything Enrique's said. Also its things like this that make me happy we have The Metro.
Wait.
No.

-- VeronaInTheClub, Thursday, 26 June 2008 16:45 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

Oh wait, I get it: you're Chantelle Fiddy.

http://www.binghamtoncrimestoppers.org/case/files/2002/case21/solved_sus_lg_2002.jpg

― The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Thursday, 26 June 2008 15:47 (seventeen years ago)

omg u called it

― banriquit, Thursday, 26 June 2008 15:50 (seventeen years ago)

that piece is all "bullshit" according to a mate on the "inside":

"It's a load of bullshit - that's off the back of the thing that was written in the Observer at the weekend and is completely untrue. Mags have been sold, but seeing as half the Standard are coming to us at the moment we're looking pretty healthy."

― CharlieNo4, Thursday, 26 June 2008 16:29 (seventeen years ago)

oh well :(

― banriquit, Thursday, 26 June 2008 16:30 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.junkscience.com/JSJ_Course/jsjudocourse/wrong.jpg

― VeronaInTheClub, Thursday, 26 June 2008 17:24 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

So where have all Thelondonpaper's distributors gone? There's not a single person handing them out around here.

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 15:00 (sixteen years ago)

thelondonpaper is finished, isn't it?

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 15:04 (sixteen years ago)

yes, I think so, good job.

― (bracket name) (jel --), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 15:05 (sixteen years ago)

think it closes next friday(?)

― history mayne, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 15:12 (sixteen years ago)

who will pay chris roy taylor to enrage me now

― kevision questler (country matters), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 15:13 (sixteen years ago)

Well, I thought it was still meant to be on this week, and the website's updating (I checked) but all the way between the City, through Liverpool Street and up to Whitechapel I haven't passed a single person handing it out. Normally I have to dodge at least 20 or so of them at this time of day. Starting to think that maybe some of them have been got rid of a week early. Though hopefully they're still getting paid but just not bothering to hang about on street corners annoying people.

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 15:32 (sixteen years ago)

Still tons in Holborn.

― lacoste intolerant (suzy), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 15:35 (sixteen years ago)

and still tons posted around Oxford Circus. more London Papers around there than London Lites.

― salsa shark, Wednesday, 9 September 2009 16:17 (sixteen years ago)

RIP london paper. heaven needed fewer trees and an army of purple jackets

― ken "save-a-finn" c (ken c), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 16:43 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/02/london-evening-standard-free

― history mayne, Friday, 2 October 2009 10:18 (sixteen years ago)

Ahem.

― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 October 2009 10:21 (sixteen years ago)

Although, yes, this is a better thread for it.

― James Mitchell, Friday, 2 October 2009 10:22 (sixteen years ago)

Err, this is the most relevant thread I could find, but does someone happen to have an October 8th issue of The Times lying around? I have a page of photos in it supposedly and forgot to pick up a copy when I was there.... Oops.

― phil-two, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 16:02 (sixteen years ago)

AIRHORN NOISE. AIRHORN NOISE. AIRHORN NOISE

― Matt DC, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 12:48 (sixteen years ago)

Speaking of which, has anyone else seen Big Issue sellers handing out the new free Evening Standard?

― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 27 October 2009 13:39 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

The London Weekly has to be a hoax, right?

― James Mitchell, Friday, 5 February 2010 11:09 (fifteen years ago)

something like that. the editor in chief seems to be mother teresa ("agnes a. theresa"). good summary here: http://www.jamesrb.co.uk/?p=260

― joe, Friday, 5 February 2010 11:32 (fifteen years ago)

"Former London Wasps, England, and Lions rugby legend Lawrence Dallaglio, this week met with Prime Minister Gordon Brown at No 10 to launch London Wasps annual St George's Day Game."

― James Mitchell, Friday, 5 February 2010 11:45 (fifteen years ago)

The top 'five' album reviews:

http://www.reverendmoonbeam.co.uk/images/londonweekly/IMG_0377.jpg

― James Mitchell, Friday, 5 February 2010 11:48 (fifteen years ago)

not much to say about that vampire weekend record, i notice.

― joe, Friday, 5 February 2010 11:51 (fifteen years ago)

Vampire
Weekend -
Contra

― kinda sad that everybody gets a blur band (DJ Mencap), Friday, 5 February 2010 12:14 (fifteen years ago)

their masthead is actually in verdana - amazing

― Tracer Hand, Friday, 5 February 2010 12:20 (fifteen years ago)

hmm. the only page of classifieds and there's one recruitment ad with no contact details and two others where the domain names seem to be fake.

http://www.reverendmoonbeam.co.uk/images/londonweekly/IMG_0394.jpg

― joe, Friday, 5 February 2010 12:29 (fifteen years ago)

Got any news story?

― requiem for a team (onimo), Friday, 5 February 2010 12:30 (fifteen years ago)

I can't take my eyes off that double space in the Pet Shop Boys head.

― nothing good came of it (woofwoofwoof), Friday, 5 February 2010 12:41 (fifteen years ago)

so it turns out the only confirmed backer of this paper is former nottingham forest and arsenal striker tony woodcock.

― joe, Monday, 8 February 2010 14:08 (fifteen years ago)

the london weekly defends itself, apparently in the form of another spot-the-error competition.

Despite several spoiler attempts by rival newspapers and media houses. The London Weekly kept to it's deadline by launching successfully today (05.02.10). The brand new light hearted free sheet will be distributed weekly each and every Friday and Saturday.

"weekly each and every Friday and Saturday" is where the sentence just abandons meaning entirely and falls off the edge of a cliff.

― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Monday, 8 February 2010 14:17 (fifteen years ago)

Last time I checked, use of 'light-hearted' to describe any venture or statement is an instant forfeit of the right to be taken seriously.

― spay or neuter your blue dog (suzy), Monday, 8 February 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

# Matt 2010-02-05 20:40
It's a great read! It will do better with me writing for it too... Contact me and give us a job.... I used to write for the London paper..

;_;

― kinda sad that everybody gets a blur band (DJ Mencap), Monday, 8 February 2010 14:26 (fifteen years ago)

not much to say about that vampire weekend record, i notice.

― joe, Friday, 5 February 2010 11:51 (3 days ago) Bookmark

best review i've read so far

― warmsherry, Monday, 8 February 2010 18:08 (fifteen years ago)

London Weekly dudes be mental

― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Friday, 12 February 2010 10:06 (fifteen years ago)

how dare us?

― joe, Friday, 12 February 2010 10:14 (fifteen years ago)

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