Your 2006 United States Open (of Tennis)

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Andre, Serena unseeded shocker

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

psst... NYCers

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Henman-Rusedski with the winner to play Federer! Aw, USTA, you really are giving the auld duffers a right royal send-off. (Actually, I expect Tim will be back at least once more; Greg, if he's still an active player in 2007, will have to qualify).

Safin lurking in r2 for an increasingly unconvincing Bandy, and Baghdatis for Andre. It could be all over by Thursday for Agatha.

Roddick's recent sweep back into something like his summer '03 form turns my stomach and there don't appear to be many obstacles in his way here. Quarters, probably. And with a r1 loss dropping off his record from last year, his flirtation with life outside the top 10 is probably over for a good while. Great while it lasted, like Becker flailing around in the teens in late '93. Still, he may not make the Masters Cup, which would be amusing.

Poussis vs Nadal too!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

ro fed as god

mookieproof (mookieproof), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

If Agassi gets through Baghdatis in Rd 2, he probably faces Dickhead in the 4th Round. Wrong torch-recipient! It's bad enough we have to see the dude's face all over town in August.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Meanwhile Blake is sacrificed to M. Federer in the Qtrs

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

ooh i didn't see this thread!

pretty balanced draws - not many striking early round matches. lots and lots of players who are coming into this injured.

not only is serena unseeded, she needed a wildcard to get in! the quarter she's landed in is loaded - mauresmo, hingis, ivanovic (who just thrashed the field in montreal, inc hingis in the final), safina. sharapova has a pretty good draw - everyone in her section is injured or just returning from injury. in the next, kuznetsova and dementieva are both playing pretty well, and in the last i don't think davenport or schnyder will be enough to beat double-h.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 24 August 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

Some UK bookmakers have Andy Murray (seeded for the first time in a slam, at 17th) as 4th favourite.

Brit punters be stupid.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 24 August 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

it's not so stupid actually he's had one of the five best records on the hard courts over the past couple of months - no titles but very consistent, impressive performances, and of course that win over federer. fourth favourite initially seems a little excessive but who else would be up there? nadal obv second behind federer though he was less than impressive this summer. ljubicic and nalbandian are playing like journeymen. blake won a title then subsequently lost all form completely (lost first round to ruben ramirez hidalgo this week :o ). roddick won a masters title, but the draw was pretty depleted. AND he's got a bloody good draw.

a lot of the young guns appear to be coming into their own - berdych, djokovic, and especially gasquet. the atp tour is in ridiculously good health at the moment.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 25 August 2006 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

Murray is bouncing up the rankings and I agree his last few weeks have been excellent, but he's still more likely too lose to a journeyman than beat Fed again. Also, his fitness (or lack of it) over five sets is still a problem.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 25 August 2006 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

oh i agree - it's just that pretty much everyone else behind federer and nadal is in the same boat. and unlike some of them, murray has been blessed by the draw gods.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 25 August 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

Took me a while to find it as well.

All the meeja about this event in Oz so far today has centred around Agassi's Last Stand, a sad symptom of the current state of Australian tennis. It is entirely likely that AA will still be in the tournament to see off the last Australian.

Henners plays the dreaded Rusedski for the right to get monstered by Federer, while Murray gets his first seeding and a dream draw. The 'changing of the guard' cliche has a certain inevitability. But I'd be gobsmacked if the haggis-muncher justifies his 4th-favoritism by making the semis.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

Agassi thru in four, winning the last 6-2 after losing a tiebreaker then winning two more. Of the three completed matches so far, the Battle Of The Andre's is the only one to go past the statutory minimum number of sets (other two: Citizen Smith over someone called Zakopalova, and the 'Head over Ayrton Serra).

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 05:10 (nineteen years ago)

i'm going tuesday, but i think it's supposed to rain all day. :(

but we also have tix for weds. nite, which is supposed to be good weather. :)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 05:31 (nineteen years ago)

great performances tonight... Andrei Pavel, Andre Agassi, Billie Jean King, Jimmy Connors, the Instant Replay. onward to Baghdatis.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

betting odds are based on how much money is placed, not how likely the bookies think they are to win though innit. see also the england football team's ridiculous odds in any given tournament...

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

I probably won't get to watch this.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 09:27 (nineteen years ago)

otm

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

sat around in my rain pancho all day tuesday. got to see all of 40 mins. of mauresmo. i guess we'll get a refund or a replacement ticket or something.

weds. night looks like we'll get to see sharapova, and then roddick. neither one likely to be exciting, altho andy's eminently capable of an early flameout.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 04:52 (nineteen years ago)

or poncho, as the case may be.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

I presume it's still raining.

How cruel would it be for Agassi's career to be ended by a B Becker? I still have nightmares about that Wimbledon semifinal, y'know - I can see Boris in his chair at 2-6 1-4, looking utterly shellshocked, like the Liverpool players going down with cramp in stoppage time at 2-3 vs West Ham in May. Finished...but...no.

Let's hope for a repeat of the of the Flushing Meadows AA-BB matches from Flushing Meadow '90 and '95.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 2 September 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Last I heard you presume correctly. At this rate Rodge and Raffles will play the final some time not long after Thanksgiving.

(That's if the Great Expectorater lasts that long. I know Phillippoussis has dragged his rating back to the nose-bleed heights of 120-something but you'd still expect better from a potential finalist.)

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Sunday, 3 September 2006 09:42 (nineteen years ago)

At this rate they'll be lucky to squeeze the final in before Thanksgiving.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Sunday, 3 September 2006 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

This has echoes of 2003 - I wonder if the organisers will somehow manage to get Roddick into the quarters while everyone else is flailing around trying to finish the last 32?

(Did Poop really give Nadal that much of a match? I got the impression it was fairly straightforward.)

Having to content myself with YouTube clips of Agatha-Baggy where you can't see the ball..

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 3 September 2006 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

He gave Raffles a run for the money without ever raising any serious suspicion that he might actually beat him. It was one of Markipoo's better efforts lately but that's hardly saying a lot.

He declared himself available for the next Davis Cup tie. A grateful nation let out a sigh of relief.

Fred Nerk (Fred Nerk), Sunday, 3 September 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

I finally saw Sharapova - I don't think I'd ever actually seen her play tennis; for three years it's been papparazzi shots only, a situation i was content with, and now i know why!! MAN what a leaden-faced grunter! absolutely joyless.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 3 September 2006 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

"RRANHGG!! RRRRHANGGGH!!! RRAH!! RRAHHH!" it's like she's exorcising some psychic tormentor on every shot.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 3 September 2006 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

and when she beats somebody, there's no smile, no acknowledgement of the enjoyment of a good match, no generosity in her face it's just "GUH WE PLAY GAME I WIN LET'S SHAKE ON IT GUHHHH"

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 3 September 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

Only just caught up with this, wee bit of downtime at work etc. - am slightly intrigued by the presence in the draw of Marc Gicquel, who's up against GAU!DI!O! in the third round. 29-year-old French lad, only previous Grand Slam appearances at Roland Garros in 2004 and 2006; on the quiet, he's crept up to #79 in the world, and in his two matches thus far he's straight-setted Chris Roc and JCF, which suggests his chances against GG might be better than average. Get by him, and Fedge awaits (assuming, of course, he gets by Vinnie The Spade).

Also - three Swiss lads in the third round! Fedz, obviously, Stan, slightly less obviously, and Marco Chiudinelli, who managed to out-hassle Flicka over five sets and gets to face Gasket for his troubles.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 3 September 2006 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

And in the women's - Vicky Azarenka's making a decent fist of the whole difficult transition from juniors to seniors, innit? Straight-setting Myskina and Jammy Jackson, you'd back her to get by Chakkatakk, leaving her with Petrova or Golovin in the fourth-round... shock quarter-finalist, perhaps?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 3 September 2006 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

They're underway, only real action atm being Schnyder-Bartoli, which stands at 0-6 6-3 to Batty Miss Patty.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 3 September 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Quite a night. Agatha out to nu-Boris, Murray turns things round so late vs Gonzalez that Metro this morning merely reports that he's "on his way out at two sets to one down", Roddick is taken the distance, Bandy bounces back again from 0-2 but is edged out in the final set t/b by Safin and Federer...allows Spadea six games.

A pair of men's r3 matches still to be tidied up but, by the end of tomorrow, we'll be back on track.

Can BB upset Roddd at his own game, a la ToJo a couple of years ago?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 4 September 2006 08:14 (nineteen years ago)

ooh, we're back. serena dismisses all notion of ana ivanovic being a tough opponent in straight sets (ivanovic will get much better though). mauresmo next - amelie should win but it says volumes about her mental rabbitness that i think it entirely possible that, even after winning two slams this year, she'll find a way to choke. safina's looking pretty solid in that section - however if sharapova can get past li (who's scored a bagel set in each of her matches so far, including a 4-6 6-0 6-0 smackdown of pierce in the last round), she's by far the best bet for the final, so far.

katarina srebotnik (aka nu-lisa raymond) choked a 6-3 3-1 lead, and then two match points, against big dave.

i am very happy that either anna chakvetadze or tatiana golovin will get to the quarters!

very relieved that there was no opportunity for schmaltzy sick-making handing-over-torch agassi/dickhead match. slightly concerned over who is going to beat dickhead though (was counting on baghdatis, booooo). gasquet in the quarters, hopefully.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 4 September 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, Hewitt or Gasquet should take Dix out, especially as the Verdasco battle suggests that he's not quite back to his 2003 level (even if he was, I'd back Fed or Nadal to beat him but we don't want things to get that far). How odd for me to be cheering on a Becker in the next round though!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 4 September 2006 10:48 (nineteen years ago)

yes I was about to say, B BECKER BACK TO HAUNT YOU!

I think Roddick would, unfortunately, beat Nadal on hard courts right now. Nadal was hardly impressive during the summer and has faced no one of consequence yet. Then again neither has Roddick.

must say, the hingis loss last week was a real shocker. virginie razzano???? ffs martina.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 4 September 2006 10:55 (nineteen years ago)

Today: JHH near-bagels Sha-Har Superstar, Diva is given a tidy little runaround by Rezai, and Jankie doodle dandies Sveta in three.

Currently: Fat Bob is doing his gosh-darnedest to come back from two sets down against Funky Haas - he took the third 6-3 and was 4-1 up in the fourth. currently serving for 5-3. Jiri Novak is providing the expected amount of resistance to Rafa, currently 6-1 1-2 behind (w/serve). Micka Youse is currently leading Sixth Seed Tommy Robredo, who is seeded sixth, 6-2 3-0.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 4 September 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Fat Bob clatters through those last two games to take the fourth 6-3.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 4 September 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

serena dismisses all notion of ana ivanovic being a tough opponent in straight sets (ivanovic will get much better though). mauresmo next - amelie should win

both serena and ivanovic played well, and there's talk of serena being the favorite tonight, but we are merkins who put Serena and Blake on the show court while Fed and Mesmo play next door.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 4 September 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

(and amelie wasn't playing all that well yesterday)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 4 September 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Youzhny gets his second seeded Spaniard's scalp - having accounted for Ferrer in the third round, he pretty much obliterates Robredo 6-2 6-0 6-1 to be the first man in the quarters.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Monday, 4 September 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Tommy Robredo must be the softest sixth seed EVAH. This tournament is nuts, but not in an entertaining way.

edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

robredo is ranked as high as he is because while he normally has a few good results each year in small tournaments, this year he's had them in big tournaments (eg winning hamburg masters, and uh qf of roland garros?)

i saw in various places that people were trumpeting serena's massive head-to-head lead over amelie as evidence that she was the favourite - but all results were a) before amelie won 2 slams and b) when serena was good, and not fat! amelie through 6-4 0-6 6-2.

isn't safin supposed to be suffering the after-effects of concussion at the moment? he was in a car accident a couple of weeks ago! marat safin: the only man who plays better with a head injury than without.

really looking forward to golovin v sharapova, and i hope golovin can finish what she started in miami earlier this year.

(fyi: miami semi-final, sharapova takes 6-3 5-1 lead. golovin saves match points, fights back to 5-4! sharapova takes obviously tactical bathroom break, gets booed. golovin takes second set anyway - sharapova immediately takes another bathroom break! and gets booed again! third set is all square and very high quality when golovin takes a horrid fall - v obviously serious as she is crying and writhing in pain on ground. sharapova reacts not by asking how she is but by jogging up and down and practising her serve! golovin gets stretchered off, sharapova gets booed off for being an inhuman robot. sharapova gets mashed in the final the next day by kuznetsova.

...so, overall, ALLEZ TATIANA.)

hewitt v roddick YUCK YUCK YUCK. is it possible for neither to win?

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 07:11 (nineteen years ago)

all women's QFs set!

Amelie Mauresmo v Dinara Safina
Maria Sharapova v Tatiana Golovin
Jelena Jankovic v Elena Dementieva
Lindsay Davenport v Justine Henin-Hardenne

i basically heart everyone left except shaz'n'dave. once they're sorted - and JHH should do the job on dave with ease - i'm in seventh heaven. woo!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 07:13 (nineteen years ago)

Roddick is the only thing making this year's men's Open interesting!! thank goodness

(aside from the Agassi Chronicles)

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 07:48 (nineteen years ago)

roddick is not at all interesting though! berdych, murray and nadal are some quite good stories left in the men's draw. gasquet should have joined them! hewitt v roddick is "aaargh, boring and vaguely unpleasant has-beens are back to haunt us".

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

Roddick is playing well, and so is Hewitt (though I was rooting for the man in bleu last night, as were many in the stadium (who wanted more tennis)). But I find Lindsay Davenport more interesting than Roddick this year, which is saying something. Safin is certainly an interesting story. and Murray-Davydenko today should be fun.

perhaps euai was speaking as an American tv producer?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

Gicquel would also be a good story if he weren't playing Federer today

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

gicquel seems to me to be mostly a story of how ferrero and gaudio continue to fuck up when opportunities are presented to them.

i'm trying to ignore safin because any emotional investment in his matches is v v unwise, even if he is my favourite.

at least bloody nastya saved me all the pain by getting herself kicked out in round 1! (apparently injured though, so she isn't JUST sucking.)

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

haha holy fuck jankovic just thrashed the demented diva 6-2 6-1! i did not see that coming.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I would have included `ankovic on big stories if we were dealing with the women. She was really good at Wimbledon too, wasn't she?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, she beat venus and lost to nastya.

she's playing really well at the moment - her year's been bizarre, she lost 10 matches in a row at the start of the year and then suddenly turned it round just before roland garros - and since then she's been very, very consistent, and in recent weeks (straight-setting serena a couple of weeks before the us open!) positively stellar. she's a bit of a diva on court too.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Davydenko leads Murray 6-1 5-7 6-3...but now it's raining again.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Murray 0-3 Davydenko
It's just not happening for Murray at the moment. Well, it is, but only if you call a barrage of double-faults 'happening'. Two more gift Davydenko the game, and the Russian is in complete control. Murray slinks over to his chair and throws his racquet at his bag. It hits it, making it his most accurate effort of the day so far.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

^from Beeb

Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

haha murray fails to win game on resumption. not a great score but by no means an embarrassing result. davydenko's playing really well at the moment.

safin a set up but a break down to haas.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

we'll still vote him our SPOTY. him or Zara Phillips. :(

vote monty!

Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Double 'fintasy update: Marat takes third set 6-2 to go two sets to one up on Haas, Dinara receiving at 6-3 4-2 down against La Mez.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Haas recovered to edge Marat in the 5th; JHH straight-setted Citizen Smith, Fedz did the same to Gikhell, as did Mesmo to Maratine and Blakey to Berdy.

We will not, however, be having our third "dream final" of the year...Nadal, edged out in a breaker in the 3rd vs Youzhny, has fallen apart in the 4th and trails 0-5.

Come on Lleyton!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

oh Rafa

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'm rooting for Roddick if only because it would be pretty interesting to see him play Federer.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

And Mikhail Youzhny - a guy who obviously likes to keep his vowels and his consonants separate, like on Countdown - is your first men's semifinalist. Fancy that.

(I'm sorry, a Federer-Roddick final the same weekend as the Everton-Liverpool derby would do me in. A good-evil double-header).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Wednesday, 6 September 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

in one day Youzhny took down Nadal and the Bryan Bros. how will he fare today against the handsome indian paesano?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

and while i'm talking dbls, how long will Navratilova's final lap last? she gets some tv time tonight, finally.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

I hope this paves the way for another Mirnyi title.

also, what's up with the Champions' matches? I was happy to see Maggie Maleeva on the schedule, but it seemed she got rained out and hasn't been rescheduled.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

after losing the first two sets, Davydenko pulls it out over Haas, who played his third 5-setter in a row.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Sharapova tests the rules with an innocuous-seeming case

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 7 September 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

holy shit, Jankovic takes the first set from Justine

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 8 September 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

OMG and she's about to break in the second set!

BATTLE OF THE HORSEFACED TITANS!!!

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Friday, 8 September 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

SECRETARIAT, YOU HAVE MET YR MATCH

Young Fresh Danny D (Dan Perry), Friday, 8 September 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

my little pony :(

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 8 September 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

WOW jankovic!

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 8 September 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

hey, at the front page of the website you can see an "off court spotlight" with Taylor Dent and this dreadlocked fiddle player guy

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 8 September 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

ok from the scoreboard i gather that the last few games were pretty epic, and JHH won them all to come back from 2-4 to 5-4. i expect jelena will continue to fight, she doesn't seem like the type to fold, but that was quite some tide-turning.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 8 September 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

wow, JJ gets bageled.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 8 September 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

THANKS FORT KNOCKING BOLDANDTHEBEAUTIFUL OFF THE AIRS YOU BITCH TENNIS FOR THE SECOND TIME THIS WEEK DONT YOU KNOW NICK IS ABOUT TELL BFROOKEW HE FUCKED HER DAUGHTER BRIDGET WHO IS HIS EX_WIFELAST NIGHT ON THAT STUPID BOAT????PS YIOU SUCK

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 8 September 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

DRAMA

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 8 September 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

I guess there's something to this Sharapova girl, after all.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 8 September 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

And then Sharapova beats Mauresmo 6-0 4-6 6-0. What a bizarre day. (xp)

JHH has won her last four vs Maria, but I wonder...

Davydenko-Youzhny final on Sunday!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 8 September 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

perhaps not, though Youzhny is still making things interesting

could someone please explain to American sportscasters in general and Dick Enberg in particular that there is no one named "Justine Henna-Hardenne," or if there is, she doesn't play professional tennis?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 9 September 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

just be grateful that dick enberg isn't rhapsodizing about the players' "mature, sweaty bodies"

mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 9 September 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

the chixor finals is a good match. not an elegant one, much, mostly lots of hard hard hitting, but they're both playing pretty tough.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 10 September 2006 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

sharapova with the 2nd-set break. could...be...BIG.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 10 September 2006 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

my little pony :(

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 10 September 2006 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

wow. of the possible outcomes, the one i ranked lowest in probability was maria in 2.

i wonder if there'll be caviling about all that weird coaching from the stands. but she played close to perfect.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 10 September 2006 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

It seems like JHH's fitness is never quite 100% and so she's prone to fall at the final hurdle like this. Well done, Maria.

I really hope there's no such upset in the men's final. Three swift sets for Federer, please.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 10 September 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

I'm so pulling for Roddick.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 10 September 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Gross.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 10 September 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

i don't really get the andy hate. he's kinda arrogant but not to a level that exactly stands out on the men's tour. his game has big gaping holes, fair enough, and he'll pay for it today.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 10 September 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

come on, dude's a fratboy. i don't hate him either; i just don't find his game all that interesting.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 10 September 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

(his persona, either)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 10 September 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

My Becker hate was never exactly rational or particularly justified, but it was total and visceral and unending (actually, that's not true - he's been great value as a "colo(u)r" commentator on the BBC the last few years, but I still want him to get thumped on the seniors' tour).

Likewise with Roddick - I really dread him winning tournaments, it makes me feel ill. Like Liverpool winning trophies. I thought he was very lucky to win this event three years ago (he seemed to benefit from various scheduling decisions as the rain-induced backlog grew), and was down a match-point vs Bandy in the semis. At the Masters Cup in Houston, again, Roddick (and Agassi) seemed to be given preferential treatment (which made no difference when Federer smashed them back-to-back to win the thing). This consolidated my growing dislike of the guy (I know, neither incident was within his control) or, more accurately, his winning of tennis matches.

His one-dimensionality has been exposed this year, as he dropped to #12, and I almost started to wonder if the game "needed a good Roddick" but the Masters title in Cincinatti (where he nearly lost in r1 and then was untouchable) has brought back the waves of revulsion and I really hope he gets a good tanning tonight.

Sorry - doesn't make much sense.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 10 September 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, i had a bit of visceral, not-particularly-justified dislike for Becker too, though his game certainly wasn't boring, and i'd always root for him over Lendl. (Edberg was my fave until Agassi came along)

I'm pretty sure I would have been firmly on McEnroe's side back in the rivalry days, but Connors seems to have evolved, so I feel somewhat good for him that Roddick is doing well.

I wonder if my favorite back-in-the-Chase driver, who looks not unlike Michael Jones, will be back in the stands this year with his rather beautiful, I now realize, new wife.

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gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 10 September 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

my Mom liked Becker. he reminded her of Borg.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 10 September 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

anyway, would these "football" faygos get off the tele already? this isn't Heidi.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 10 September 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

I hated Boris Becker the player with a vengeance, but concur with Mike that he's grown into a decent commentator. Still could never stomach him winning, and sitting in a pub full of Germans in Spain somewhere as he humiliated an under-par Stefan Edberg at Wimbledon in 1989 remains one of my worst sport-watching experiences ever. The fact I was wearing one of those snazzy Edberg tennis shirts and, being a lone 16 year old in a pub, was fairly noticeable anyway, didn't help stem the cheerful smiles and cloying sympathy from the friendly German holidaymakers. I just wanted to curl up and cry. I hated Becker so much.

I totally can't hate Roddick that much. I don't actually mind him.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 10 September 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

he's grown into a decent commentator

Are you absolutely sure about that? I guess maybe I just switch off these days when he speaks, but at first he was dull and made TERRIBLE jokes. Sorry, "jokes".

How's the tennis going?

=== temporary username === (Mark C), Sunday, 10 September 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

His terrible jokes are part of the charm. I like terrible jokes. He also seems to be able to laugh at himself rather a lot, which is a trait I generally like in people.

I'm not watching the tennis. Neil is watching something about pirates. It's just started. Updates here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/5333246.stm

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 10 September 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

5-0 to Federer. I'm not going to get all half-time in Istanbul about this, though...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 10 September 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Becker-Edberg '89 was my personal lowlight too - the first set was so bad I couldn't watch the rest of the match, walking to New Brighton with my Walkman AM/FM radio. Edberg had three set-points in the 2nd set and dumped three easy volleys in the net. He was in such superb form, fresh from reaching the Paris final, dismantling McEnroe in the semis, whereas Becker had laboured to a four-hour win over Lendl which had finished less than 24 hours before the final. I couldn't believe how horribly wrong it went.

Which is why I'm getting jittery now - Roddick gets a break back.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 10 September 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

First set Fed 6-2 (Roddick dropping serve three times - he only lost his serve twice in three previous matches vs Becker, Hewitt and Youzhny). But...Roddick breaks at the start of set two.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 10 September 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

2nd set Roddick 6-4. Operation Put The Bugger In His Place is well and truly scuppered. Anybody's now.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 10 September 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

From the bbc website coverage: Now Federer decides to serve and volley - everybody's at it. It's like Becker v Edberg.

STOP IT! NO IT'S NOT! This is not traumatising and horrendous!

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 10 September 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

Oh God no! (Though if they were both forced to s&v, I think Fed would gallop through the rest of the match pretty swiftly.) I might have to put the radio on in a bit...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 10 September 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, I can't knock the hustle

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 10 September 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

Four break points go begging for Roddick in that last game - could be a crucial failure or could just be an indication that he's stomping all over the Fed serve and will eventually tighten his grip on this.

Fed had a mid-match dip vs Agassi last year but that was against a 35-y-o who'd just come through consecutive five-setters; Roddick's level may drop but it won't be through fatigue.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 10 September 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah the commentators here comparing to last year as well. Roddick is actually making a decent, if typically inelegant, showing at the net.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 10 September 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

Christ, how many break-points has Roger had in this game? Oh, the ebb-and-bleedin'-flow...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 10 September 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

3-3 after seven deuces... Ok, I'm going to bow out of this thread and retire to my bed with Five Live and a pair of headphones. No sense taking the laptop - the battery would probably die on match-point.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 10 September 2006 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

6-2 4-6 5-5 to 6-2 4-6 7-5 3-0 in what feels like about 3 minutes as Fed finds a new gear.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Sunday, 10 September 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

4-0, all but over now.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Sunday, 10 September 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

Blimey. Poor Roddick. I still remain bewildered that Andy Murray beat Federer. The man is unstoppable, almost. It's kind of scarey.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 10 September 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

Almost an exact repeat of last year's final - except then Agassi did actually break in the 3rd before being steamrollered. On both occasions, Hewitt is left cursing the TV as Fed's opponents just avoid the bageling he gave Lleytz.

Oh, the palaver I had trying to find a way to listen in bed to this - eventually took a portable CD-cassette thing up with Pam's chunky AKG headphones. Missed four games in the interim, so switched on at 5-5 15/0. Good time to rejoin it... And then found Pretzel Logic in the CD tray!

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 11 September 2006 06:14 (nineteen years ago)

oh i am so relieved that there was no horrific upset in the men's final! not, to be honest, that there was the remotest chance of it. i wish fed had bagelled roddick though. THREE TIMES.

impressed with sharapova - at the start of the hard court season there were three players she had real trouble with, and very daunting head-to-heads against - clijsters, mauresmo and JHH. she beat clijsters in the san diego final, and then mauresmo and henin-hardenne back-to-back here, and all very convincingly. i wonder if this will kickstart a run of wins over those three for maria, or whether they are in the long run too smart for her.

roll of honour:

Men's singles: Roger Federer
Women's singles: Maria Sharapova
Men's doubles: Martin Damm and Leander Paes
Women's doubles: Nathalie Dechy and Vera Zvonareva
Mixed doubles: Bob Bryan and Martina Navratilova
Boys' singles: Dusan Lojda
Girls' singles: Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
Boys' doubles: Jamie Hunt and Nathaniel Schnugg
Girls' doubles: Mihaela Buzarnescu and Raluca Olaru

- well done Vera!
- this is the third time Martina the Elder has retired and despite what she says I am yet to be convinced it is the last
- good, as ever, to note the ludicrous names of all the juniors

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 September 2006 08:28 (nineteen years ago)

JHH, meanwhile...well, I still think of her as the player to beat in any given tournament, but she still hasn't won any non-clay slam more than once. and she had a golden, golden opportunity this year to complete the full house, win her first Wimbledon, even do a Grand Slam, playing players she had dominating records over in each final - and she can't be happy at the way she didn't take those chances.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 11 September 2006 08:48 (nineteen years ago)


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