that dateline pedophile sting stuff

easier and more legal than lynching the pervert I guess.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/10/19/neighbor.stabbed.ap/index.html

there was that one guy they caught who brought his 3 yr old son along with him to the house, though.

they guy with his kid was really unsettling and bizarre and awful. but the next step after thinking "wow, how many asshole abuser wierdos are out there" is thinking "uh ok this is kind of a lot of low hanging fruit you're bringing in"

Dateline/Perverted Justice is certainly the most well-known but law enforcement agencies across the country do these sorts of stings all the time.

I would love to see a clip show of courtroom theatrics where victim's parents get to berate scumball molesters. Actually, I'm sure I could "create" a clipshow over at YouTube.

but that's what so nuts, it doesn't seem to be doing so! you could only really measure this by seeing the number of guys drop off, but as of now they're still lining up at the door to get arrested with a camera in their face. i don't know whether to think this is a good thing (paedos r dumm, reel them all in) or not (how fkn many creeps are there? how many more have already moved off radar?)

I dunno, maybe it's because of the Rev.-Haggard-gay-sex-&-meth story in the news cycle now, but I can't help but suspect the motivation of persons obsessed with persecuting "perverts" as a way of sublimating / doing penenace for their own shameful urges.

And yes, I realize I'm on extremely shaky ground here. Just throwing it out there.

there's no way to measure this although there are loads of studies showing the influence of deterrence on crime.

also, although the vast majority of molestation occurs from non-strangers, that might be a condition of convenience. In other words, scumballs probably have an easier time raping their relatives and gym class students rather than kids who they don't know.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e9/Disney_World_Girl.jpg

I think about the person who had to doctor that child abuse photo to make it "presentable" for the public.

xpost

Who was it?

yeah i mean i watch this show and i think these dudes are creepy scumfucks but i also think the really, really twisted, fucked up ones aren't the ones stealing out to some 15 yr old girl's house hoping to get a blowjob. though i guess that one dude with the cat fetish is another story ; (

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masha_Allen

Whoof, vague-o-rama. So they basically have to blackmail you into comitting a crime for it to be entrapment? And even then you have to be crying while you do it?

other than that, entrapment can only be proven if the accused did not already want to initiate the crime. so, it's my understanding that the Dateline people just go online in these chat rooms that are likely to attract pedophiles and be provocative/flirtatious enough for the pedophile to make an advance. unless the Dateline people themselves proposed sexual conduct, they didn't legally entrap the accused.

or so i understand.

selling drugs to kid who asks for them=okay

what is this, candyman?

wow, this is just so wrong.

xpost

and

We have an official "rules of engagement" that we instruct to a contributor when they're brought aboard to help out with the site. One of those rules is that unless asked to in the chat, always let the male PM you. That way they can't cry that the "kid" messaged them in IM first, they have to take the first step. Typically, and I stress typically one of our operatives will be chatting on the main screen, or announce their presence (A/S/L) in the rooms . . . sadly, and typically, they almost always receive interest. Often, just entering a chat room is enough to get 3-10 instant messages at once without having to say anything.

We are philosophically against anyone or any organization that contacts people first as underage personas. There is no reason to do that when online predators are so numerous and motivated to contact what they think is a 10-15 year old male or female first. We want threats and we are happy to wait as long as it takes to find them.

good. i've been meaning to check on the legality of that one.

Here's a decent article about entrapment and police stings in regard to internet predators. It also addresses the issue of how a guy can act like a thirteen-year old day after day without getting warped.

Molly makes some good points above about "Dateline". I mean, I'm really glad that they're nabbing some of these people, but there is something sensationalistic about it all as well.

-- researching ur life (goforgrad...), Today. (grady) (link)

a bit thick? i meant that it's not entrapment if a police officer does it

either way.

-- Sam rides the beat like a bicycle (poxyfule...) (webmail), November 7th, 2006. (Molly Jones)

1. i'm not talking about "victims." i'm talking about the fake victims who pose as kids to make good tv.
2. yes, i do think they act flirtatious or provocative to ease attracting pedophiles. i could be wrong, but i think it's more likely they'd be in these teen chat rooms saying things that would attract pedophiles rather than simply sitting idly in there with names like molly13.
3. yes, obviously the actual meeting for sex is initiated by the pedophile. that is exactly what i said.

We have an official "rules of engagement" that we instruct to a contributor when they're brought aboard to help out with the site. One of those rules is that unless asked to in the chat, always let the male PM you. That way they can't cry that the "kid" messaged them in IM first, they have to take the first step. Typically, and I stress typically one of our operatives will be chatting on the main screen, or announce their presence (A/S/L) in the rooms . . . sadly, and typically, they almost always receive interest. Often, just entering a chat room is enough to get 3-10 instant messages at once without having to say anything.

--

the whole point is to pose as a potential victim and act like a real victim would act: e.g. not being provocative.

I believe they are the future.

sorry, you posted right after me without an xpost so I assumed, you know.

-- bo janglin (wt...) (webmail), November 7th, 2006. (dubplatestyle)

i'd imagine their primary audience is mothers who are up at 8 in the morning watching the view. think of the children.

And Sam, you may place a bit too much trust in stated 'rules of engagement' - none of us actually know what they do in the chatroom and 'Perverted Justice' wouldn't have any interest in telling you if they initiate contact (or start talking about how much they love sex/etc.).

I'd imagine successfully imitating an adolescent is expressing such an interest in sex; they may not *initiate* conversations about sex, but you can bet they have such conversations.

Cam’ron Vigilante Pedophile Justice Sting DVD

I think you have a slight point though Milo. BUT can it be safely assumed that some of these scumball predators would probably pull out their c0cks and get down and dirty? Granted, these stings are made for TV and all, but should we be glad that it's only a mind crime and assume that nothing else would have happened?

Since these cases eventually go to court and win convictions (I'm pretty sure they've said that on the show), the decoys probably don't initiate any sexual talk. The transcripts are used in the cases.

OTM. When someone seems obsessed with pedophiles, wants to devote their energy to tracking them down, rants about how they should be executed, then I tend to think to myself, "OK, that person is sexually attracted to minors, and is other-izing what they feel guilty about." Especially the dudes who froth at the mouth, say "No punishment is too harsh for these people", etc.

The intersection between {people I know who have been abused} and {people I know who are obsessed with pedophile-hunting} is near zero. Most of the molestation victims I've known just want to get on with their lives, and not be defined / define themselves by the abuse they suffered; they'll speak up when appropriate, but they don't spend their time salivating over this bread & circuses shit.

The show is pretty awful though -- I can't help feeling bad for the guys they catch.

Watching pedophiles get caught Schadenfraude is all the rage this year!

then

BAM

mofucker gets PWNED
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/05/17/arts/17stan.jpg

milo should people who buy fake drugs from undercover agents not be prosecuted?
Um, no, they shouldn't.

http://www.wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=20695&archive=30643

(they first mention the idea around 10 mins and it doesn't even get going for another 10-15 mins as is usually the case with Andy Breckman show ideas)

no need to studder.
i agree with dan re: the guys who, er, pull out of the deal at any time beforehand.
i really don't understand milo's Technicality thinking. what difference does it make if the girl/drugs are or aren't real? esp w/r/t underage girls due to the extreme difficulty of catching a guy before he's done any harm yet after his actions have given police enough cause to arrest. you're misusing the term thought-crime, ie the subject not the object is the relevant variable.

If a person does not exist, he or she cannot be violated.

What's the difference if a guy is clearly interested in pedophilia, but doesn't walk through the threshold? There's no logic to that. These are pre-emptive arrests and prosecutions - you're taking someone down because they could, theoretically, actually hook up with a minor down the road. If they'll drive across town, but change their mind (maybe they got suspicious of the unmarked cars on the street) - why aren't they just as much of a threat to do it again (to a real person) as the guy who walked in?

The entirety of the crime is what's going on in the guy's head - if he's made his intent clear (rolling up with a batch of jello shots and a six-pack of condoms), shouldn't he be just as much of a mark as the guy who comes to the door?

no, you're taking them down because, with premeditation, they entered a minor's home with the intention of engaging in sex acts with them. for me, this (along with the fake-drugs bust) is valid because in the perp's mind, the girl is real. this is not the same thing as a thought-crime where EVERYTHING takes place in the mind, ie the girl can be real but entering her home is imagined. i can see what your point is and why you probably think it, i just disagree.

AWARD FOR THREAD'S MOST BIGGEST EUPHEMISM

this’s a SEERRRRIOOOUSSS ass issue, like 1/4 of kids on the internet & chat rooms get hollared at EVERYDAY in really disgusting filthy manner by disgusting filthy people. THat shit is real and seriosu as cancer,–do you know how many kids are on the net???

Cam’s being a MOOOREEE than stand-up dude, and yall sitting here hating on him. sure, make fun of how surreal the idea is, but SHOW proper respect ta the wildly humanitarian duty as well. That right there is doing more for the world than ANYTHING you’ve ever thought about contributing ta making the world a better place. like really, fuck your life doggy. you ain’t doing shit for the world. go out & do sum good doggy! be a vigilante like Cam doggy!

I have a friend that did sumthing similar last year, where he lured a 40 year old sicko pervert out ta his house saying he was a kid & told him ta bring a case of beer. Then when he showed up he jacked dude for 250 dollars & his ID card & a broken nose.
and I mean, my friend is kinda a lazy abusive fuck up generally speaking, but that 1 event I feel like was heroic & redeemed him 100%. VIGILANTE JUSTICE NIGGA!!

and I support Cam just the same! lol. do sumthing good with YOUR life nigga! you’ll feel better bout yourself and your weed will taste better & the world will suddenly smell like good clean pussy. try that do-gooding shit out!

posted by Cavebaby — February 14, 2006 @ 9:30 pm

So if you drive 300 miles and walk through a door, you're probably going to attack someone in the future - but if you drive 300 miles and stop at the curb, you're not?

wow.

yes. exactly. congrats.

What the fucking hahahahhahahahha jesus.

one dude they just busted was obviously retarded.

Run!

Tuesday's episode featured a guy who sent pictures of his "hueg c0ck" to the decoy and then after he got busted and they were booking him he had to empty his pockets and there was a this gigantic dong in his jeans pocket - the kind with a suction cup on the base.

I used to have ethical problems with this whole thing, but by now, these people should know better

oops.

Mutaytor won't die
L.A.'s techno-funk-rock collective plans to weather the scandal after its founder gets nabbed on 'Dateline's' 'Catch a Predator' series.

By Ron Garmon, Special to The Times

More than one raver or beat-hippie idly surfing network TV on the evening of Jan. 30 knew a brute shock of the all-too-familiar. NBC's "Dateline," in another installment of its sordid and successful "To Catch a Predator" series, rolled tape on the latest batch of vermin lured to an obscure Long Beach residence with online promises of sex with (fictitious) young teens.

Caught in "Dateline's" on-camera haul was musician Matty Nash, the percussionist-founder of L.A. techno-funk-rock circus the Mutaytor, and one of the few actual celebrities to emerge from the Burning Man subculture. Looking wan and paranoid, Nash bolted the house after host Chris Hanson strode into view with a hammy, "Did you bring your drums, Matty?" only to meet police officers waiting outside.

ADVERTISEMENT

In the days since the broadcast, Nash has departed the act he founded, and has pleaded not guilty to the pending felony charge of an attempted lewd or lascivious act with a minor arising from last September's sting. This leaves the remaining 35 members of the Mutaytor collective to build another meaning out of the group's motto, "Plot, Scheme, Toil, Smash, Repeat."

The Mutaytor was born when Nash set up his drums at the 1998 Burning Man festival in the Nevada desert to pound out polyrhythms for dusty revelers. Eventually came belly dancers, fire-eaters, trapeze artists and spinners of flaming poi, with the whole meshugas taking high-concept shape as a Mad Max compound of Cirque du Soleil and "Soul Train." The act received favorable notice, soon breaking out of the Burner underground into Hollywood venues such as the Key Club and similar high-profile bookings on the outdoor-festival circuit.

With an album and concert DVD in the pipeline, what next for the Mutaytor? The act's democratic structure plugs the group into the Burner underground that's still its principal fan base. Judging from postings on Burn-dominated Tribe.net, the Mutaytor faithful appear torn between loyalty and outrage, with a generous dose of the personal rancor for which online communities are famous. The dominant mood seems to be an anxious suspension of judgment.

Remarkably, most of the group didn't hear about Matty's woes until after the broadcast, which led to a furious debate among members that was still going on as the curtain went up on its gig Wednesday night at the Knitting Factory. Backstage, several Mutaytor cast members discussed the incident before the show.

Of Nash, dreadlocked Buck Down (co-writer with Atom Smith of most of the group's music and one of the act's longest-tenured members) was blunt: "At this point, he has no connection with us. He has nothing more than a historical link to this project. Whatever it does from now on will be without Matty." Nash's wife of 13 years, who goes by the single name Crunchy, is staying on as stage manager/den mom.

"Everybody's seen the clip at this point," Down conceded. "Even if he goes to court and more than wins, the damage is already done. He did quite a job of containing this from us. Nobody saw it coming. This worst of surprises is costing us enormously." Specifically, he said the group has lost its manager and booking agency.

"What we've got left," Down said, "is a great band, a great show and a lot of supporters. If you look at the support we've received on Tribe.net, we made it out with about an 85% approval rating and there is no worse publicity than this. We've survived a Category 5 PR [disaster]. Professionally, you don't get worse."

"If we have to go back to playing in the dirt, I'm fine with that," he said with a shrug. "As a house band for Burning Man, we've taken a microcosm of how it works and looked for ways to sustain that. The most gratifying shows we ever did weren't on any stage. Just put the drums in the dust and let 'er rip. As long as we're doing that, we can survive this."

What gigs are left as the Mutaytor? "This one and two in Tahoe," he replied. "The rest are canceled or pending."

Roo, fire performer and roustabout, added, "There's talk of changing our name, but we don't want to give up everything that we as a collective have been working for for a quarter of my life. We're playing tonight as the Mutaytor; after that, I don't know. Musically, Matty wrote part of two drum songs. The main songwriting is from Atom and Buck and all the other decisions are made collectively by us, the performers. None of us are ready to give this up. No way."

Bassist Jon Avila, formerly of Oingo Boingo, said, "The Mutaytor is a family and we're going to get through this." Hoop dancer KJ added, "It hasn't been about any one of us in a very long time. We all came out of the audience and the band has actually regained some performers due to this. Many acts would buckle, but we won't. What we do is mutate."

Diehards displayed their support by bulging the Knitting Factory to near-capacity on Wednesday, with scores of festival vets slicked into the usual wildly extroverted display of desert bling and battery-powered wardrobe.

"Boy, are we glad to see you!" Buck bellowed as fans unloaded vociferous love on the ragged and motley act. Onstage was mad hustle and eyes shining in a vindication perhaps terminally late for a dozen hungry ambitions as the troupe slid without visible effort into joyous renditions of an incendiary catalog. The desert disco of "On Fire Like This" and "Drop the Laundry" uncoiled like dusty whirlwinds as cast and crowd shook it down mightily.

Neither a funeral nor a wake, this show was a reunion for a hardscrabble musical family.

indeed. They *do* know better, that's not the issue.

this happens = classic, they need to get caught.
it's a TV show = dud.

some things are worse than pedophilia...

i think dr. scholl's marketing division is genius to get its massage chairs as the centerpiece of these new stings! the chairs perfect for internet predators!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8dFf-BhUzk

that dateline pedophile zing stuff

LDPZC

is anyone watching the new Chris Hansen sting op where he takes down identity thieves? this shit is way way more intersting than pedophiles.

seriously they are pulling some international spy shit that makes the Bumfuck, USA Police Departments come off as way boring.

wtf

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/11/business/media/11network.html?

oh ffs

I hate ppl

is anyone watching the new Chris Hansen sting op where he takes down identity thieves? this shit is way way more intersting than pedophiles.

― gr8080, Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:35 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

seriously they are pulling some international spy shit that makes the Bumfuck, USA Police Departments come off as way boring.

― gr8080, Thursday, March 13, 2008 10:42 PM (11 months ago) Bookmark

^this was actually remarkable

tcap is an old favorite - any fan of zinging should be fan imo

Mr. Ungar said Goucher was unaware of the indictment until NBC News arrived on the campus in December. He then contacted Alison Des Forges, a senior adviser at Human Rights Watch, who said she was skeptical about the evidence against Mr. Munyakazi.

“It seemed to me really highly unusual for a national prosecutor in one country to enter another country without official clearance and to accompany a TV crew in order to basically catch people unaware,” she said.

she just died in that plane crash O_O

i still cant believe that group is called perverted justice

you could never make that shit up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQlzXvMOKe8&feature=youtu.be

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2009511/To-Catch-Predators-Chris-Hansen-caught-cheating-wife.html

Hansen, who has two young sons, was caught in an undercover sting operation arranged by the National Enquirer.

http://www.radaronline.com/sites/radaronline.com/files/imagecache/350width/hansenaffair%20-%20getty%20images.jpg

If I were a superhero like Dr. Hansen, and I ran what was probably the most morally and civicly righteous television show of all time and had that taken away from me and I was reduced to doing "To Catch a Bicycle Thief" and "To Catch a Bath Salt" segments... I'll just say I'm not surprised. Those ignorant bastards. Hopefully he'll be able to revive TCAP to come back from this.

not that bicycle theives don't deserve to get theirs, though...

Yeah, let's sit back and watch the irony pile up as people try to compare cheating on one's wife, which is not a crime, to soliciting sex from minors, which is a crime everywhere.

Well, 'exposing' 24yrold lads that meet up with 16yrold girls.

That's not a crime, here.

His wife and mistress look a lot a like, except for a somewhat noticeable age difference. I notice that is the case a lot in these situations.

Well, 'exposing' 24yrold lads that meet up with 16yrold girls.

oh come on 90% of the decoys say they're 12-14

Yeah, let's sit back and watch the irony pile up as people try to compare cheating on one's wife, which is not a crime, to soliciting sex from minors, which is a crime everywhere.

I don't think anyone is trying to argue that the crimes are similar in the least.

yeah i think the "argument" is more that this guy's a douche

my argument is simply this: "lol"

^^^

Well, 'exposing' 24yrold lads that meet up with 16yrold girls.

That's not a crime, here.

― Mark G, Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:10 AM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

It's not the case in the US in a majority of states either (I'm assuming you're outside the US). In very many states the age of consent is 16.

http://www.webistry.net/jan/consent.html

(to underscore Bill's point)

Yes, and again, the "Perverted Justice" dudes with whom Hansen has worked always portrayed themselves as under the age of consent in the jurisdiction in which the sting was taking place. If they didn't, none of the people with whom they interacted would have been convicted.

good lord, south carolina

How about that footnote on Mississippi?

o_O

I feel like Phil is trying to stir up an argument that no one really wants to have.

Mississippi 16 - [2]

waht

I'm not saying anyone here is making those arguments, jon, but they're gonna be made. Just watch.

e.g., "About 142 results (0.11 seconds) for "Chris Hansen"+"hypocrite" in past 24 hours"

thanks for getting out in front of this one.

I think people are just lolling at "smarmy dude gets caught using the same means he likes to employ" not "wow cheating on you wife is as bad as being a pedophile!".

I'll bet they didn't pull it off with chris hansen's finesse

I hope they caught him bringing in a 4-pack of wine coolers

my argument is simply this: "lol"

― DJP, Thursday, June 30, 2011 8:38 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

I thought of this show when all the stuff about that gross dude in the van started to blow up.

and that is ALL i am going to say about that situation right there, so *not* trying to stir anything here pls note

Hansen all following his girlfriend into a darkened room, then backing out slowly, followed by his wife and a cameraman.

"Why don't you have a seat right over here and talk to me for a minute?"

I'm confusing this thread with the Bristol-Sarah slashfic thread.

There probably is a way to tie it all together.

"Come have a seat, you betcha!"

The Mississippi thing has me so nauseous/angry.

Wow stay classy, M-I-crooked letter.

what the fuck mississippi

yeah, words really can't express how fucked up I find that rider

you'll never catch me defending this place

just glad nat'l enquirer is running sting ops now

can't wait for them to turn their powers on Shia TheBeef

never forget

PEOPLE FROM GEORGIA

I think that Mississippi thing is outdated or simply wrong

MS criminal code according to another site:
"(2)  Neither the victim’s consent nor the victim’s lack of chastity is a defense to a charge of statutory rape. "

I'm confusing this thread with the Bristol-Sarah slashfic thread.
―The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, June 30, 2011

waht

2012 republican presidential nominee

cleverly disguised as "2012 republican presidential nominee"

http://www.realmofdarkness.net/sounds/hansen/chrishansen-soundboard-2.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCkolIsO1ic

"I don't wanna be on the news, dawg."
"Well, it's a little late for that, dawg."
He quickly comes up with a... disguise!

The Mississippi thing is so fucked and confusing. Like, I don't even really get how that makes any sense at all.

I'm really freaked out by how much Hanson's wife and mistress look alike. I mean - it's ridiculous.

he's clearly a man with...predilections.

just let me drive baby . . . I'll show you heaven

predilicktions

preyledicktions

preydelicktions

preydelickshots

preydicklic . . . no, I'm not going to do it.

I feel like in general the similarities are a sign that really wants to be w his wife, but a version from before life happened to them. Like whatever their cumulative issues/damage are from over the years, the version from before that, when responsibilities were less demanding, and personal failures on both sides hadn't made everything much more complicated.

http://i55.tinypic.com/2wpulg8.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3FxdOBXWC8

i bet marc ecko was really plzd with that free advertisement

oh man the disguise is the best

Laurel - yeah, I think you're probably onto something. It's still very strange though.

omg dying at the crank calls

I'm cute though, built good?

Well, that's fun.

oh man those phone calls

"laugh out loud"

i wish he'd just use "lawl"

omg that was amazing

oh yeah

I have tears in my eyes from trying so hard not to lawl at my desk.

it's a funny desk

ha

enbb is called into her boss's office later and asked to just have a seat over there

Don't say that!!!

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/143102/to-catch-a-streaker-o.gif

just a bit of fun on a thread about pedos, lets just have a seat over there and be cool

omg the naked guy

youtube?

i can't control my horny level

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jazY7cLfHr0

Wait i probably shouldn't watch that at work, right?

i can't control my horny level

― ☂ (max), Thursday, June 30, 2011 12:08 PM

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=47

laugh out loud

lawl

"horny level" is p much the funniest thing I've ever to me right now

cleanest, best lawl

buzza ^_____^

lol @ the enquirer

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid115538958001?bckey=AQ~~,AAAAAFSNYNw~,u7cY7sAR_aTMMJ2KHrqOorGqvxGLeODL&bctid=1032435569001

http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/homer-and-apu-picture.png

Hey, smashed hat. Why don't you have a seat over there.

http://www.csnwashington.com/sportsnetWashington/search/v/48504883/nbc-s-chris-hansen-on-the-jerry-sandusky-sexual-abuse-scandal-11-9.htm

In a sensational new twist to an outrageous scandal, “Dateline NBC” star Chris Hansen is still cheating with his sexy girlfriend months after The ENQUIRER exposed the affair – and now he’s vowing to dump his wife for her, say sources.

In our July 11, 2011, issue, The ENQUIRER exposed Hansen – best known for catching Internet sex perverts on “To Catch a Predator” – for straying from his wife Mary and hooking up with Kristyn Caddell, then a news reporter at NBC affiliate WPTV in West Palm Beach, Fla.

Although Kristyn, 30, resigned from her news position in December and is moving to the Tampa area, an insider says the twosome are still sneaking around behind Mary’s back. And the 52-year-old newsman is promising his girlfriend a bright future together, says the source.

“Exposing the scan­dal didn’t stop Chris and Kristyn from seeing each other – it just taught them to be more careful when they’re meeting,” re­vealed a close source.

“After they were caught cheating, Chris encouraged her to lay low for a while to let the scandal blow over, but they vowed to resume the relationship when there weren’t so many prying eyes.

“Now that Kristyn isn’t in the public eye, it’s a lot easier for them.

“She’s flown to a secret location to meet with Chris at least twice since the cheating scandal broke, and they speak regularly on the telephone.”

Meantime, the source says that Mary hasbeen loyally standing by her two-timing hus­band’s side.

“It’s sickening because Chris has been telling Kristyn all along that he intends to leave his wife for her,” the source revealed. “He’s just waiting for the right time."

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/sites/nationalenquirer.com/files/imagecache/node_page_image/article_images/hansen_story_2.jpg

Time is moving too fast these days.

http://i.imgur.com/oCdxOjg.jpg

I guess we're about at the point where kids born when that show was on are old enough to chat now.

But anyway, back to HANSEN vs PREDATOR: http://www.hansenvpredator.com/

http://i.imgur.com/yXD0Huh.gif

http://i.imgur.com/Mn5Fkr2.jpg