The Lex: C/D?

Haha ok that's funny.

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Oh, but if anyone deserves a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame Paris does! Right Lex?

:-/

Hmm, I guess I've just been hanging out on more pop threads lately. Funny how depending on what you look at you see different segments of teh ILX populationz...

(ps I have met the Lex and he's a very nice chap and i really like him)

its never been about that insecurity for me - more a hunger to know and hear and understand more stuff.

You haven't seen the plans I have for this exciting internet meme with massive viral potential!

Exactly how I feel. Well, I haven't met Lex, but he does seem to be a generally friendly person.

So i guess for me

Lex the individual = classic
Lex's "revelling in ignorance" = not so classic

I'd rather have a friend who I disagree with about pop culture but is a nice person, than one I agree with on everything under the sun but is an asshole.

Take out the "on the internet" part, my point still stands. I assure you I wasn't trying to imply social ineptitude. I just don't think threads that are entirely about "I think Poster X is an idiot, what do you think?" are particularly productive. The Lex is taking this very well, but if I were on the receiving end of something like this, I'd be rather upset.

Obviously Lex is classic, but then why would I ever say otherwise?

Again Ailsa, exactly what I was trying to say but couldn't find the words (I need sleep).

I wasn't implying this at all, just talking about myself. :-)

Who's to say it's self-parody? Maybe he's just consistent.

-- Andrew Farrell (afarrel...), November 13th, 2006 1:31 PM. (afarrell) (link)

haha you've gotta be kidding

* NB I don't read ILM.

Anyone care to bet on that?

(As explained, I have met him once. He was very drunk and still charming. I was very drunk and, erm, probably incoherent and gibbering).

personal experience LOL

most threads ABOUT ILXors (there are many, esp. from the Olden Days, so Lex isn't really a special case in this regard) are overly positive.

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That's what makes me God's Own Umpire in this thing, Ken!

Yeah, he's the ten drunkest people I've ever seen, no contest.

Anyway, the Lex = the classic, v. friendly online and in person and correctly dismissive of a lot of rubbish to boot. Together we will slay the dread shambling beast that is Chris Martin.

PS Teh Lex= v.good person. And now I know he's a bit of a fall down drinker, I can't wait to meet him.

PS Also come to London anyway, accentmonkey!

If I also take The Lex to task for asking similar questions, though, it's because the people he's unfamiliar with are vastly better-known than the people I'm unfamiliar with. For instance, I'd never heard of the Little River Band until Amanda or Kenan mentioned them a few months ago, and I did the whole "Why would I have heard of a band that existed in the late 70s/early 80s if they're not considered canonical, don't have a radio hit that ever escaped the classic-rock ghetto, etc. etc." Whereas The Lex professes his ignorance of DAVID BYRNE and JACKIE CHAN, and yeah, Crouching Tiger is the only martial-arts film I've seen, too, but people talk about Jackie Chan all the time, he makes comedy appearances at awards shows (was it the 2000 Oscars where he presented alongside Kareem Abdul-Jabbar), his grinning mug is all over billboards whenever another Rush Hour movie comes out, etc.

It's like, I totally maintain that there are some things I shouldn't be expected to know, for various reasons -- but I've spent too long worrying about whether these deficiencies still make me equipped to write about music/culture that I guess it just bothers me when someone doesn't even seem to pay attention.

Like, my Dad goes through his life swearing blind he hasn't cone across this or that when I know he has, or at least this (and/or that) has been right in fromt of his face. It's just, he has an amazing talent to filter out stuff which he isn't thinking about at that given moment. In this regard (and this regard only) the Lex is perhaps a little like my Dad.

Annoyance seems an odd reaction to that (not that I'm suggesting that you're annoyed, but some certainly seem to be).

Alas, London brother number one has left the city to be a country mouse, and London brother number two lives with three comedians and they have no spare bedroom. So I have nowhere to stay in London any more.

I tend to maintain that there is a certain level of basic cultural and general knowledge that everyone in a particular community should be expected to know, and that not knowing it indicates either stupidity, rudeness or wilful ignorance. For example, everyone should be expected to know what road signs mean, even if you don't drive a car, because they are vital for pedestrians too.

This position makes me unpopular, though.

Admit it, you WISH you didn't know Jackie Chan. wink wink

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Yeah but isn't the Lex's position (inferred from his behaviour) that the specific boundaries ILX has evolved for this are (at worst) complacent and stupid and (at best) deserving constant re-examination?

plz wait til no list november finished before banning me

beth post on the tennis threads more! never mind me when i get tennis geeky, it would be nice to have more people to say GO ANASTASIA and so on though.

-- Tom (freakytrigge...), November 13th, 2006.

yeah it's that thought through, im sure!

it's MORE complacent to throw down BOLD CLAIMS about this that and the other on a scanty knowledge basis.

Constant re-examination of anything = dud, particularly the high volume and screechy kind.

welcome to ilx

People who are dicks part 5: ENRQ

Also, I find it bizarre that people can interact with pop culture junkies without absorbing any of what they are on about.

haha his son put out an record recently but jackie told the newspapers that it stank!

Hurrah for The Lex!

to...you? me? everyone? it's not really an 'importance' issue. it's not a crime to not know about any of these things. maybe more people in the world know where Bujumbura is than know who Chan is but even then this wouldn't necessarily prove anything.

when you refer to chan i immediately think of yung-jan chan, the taiwanese tennis player who's rocketed into the top 100 in the past few months...

SINGLES
Winner: 2006 - ITF/Melbourne-AUS, ITF/Fukuoka-JPN, ITF/Kurume-JPN; 2005 - ITF/Taipei-TPE, ITF/Fukuoka-JPN; 2004 - ITF/Colombo-SRI, ITF/Jakarta 3-INA, ITF/Taipei-TPE.
Semifinalist (1): 2006 - Tokyo [Japan Open].

DOUBLES
Winner (1): 2006 - ITF/Sydney-AUS, ITF/Gosford-AUS, ITF/Fukuoka-JPN, ITF/Kurume-JPN (all w/Chuang); 2005 - Seoul (w/Chuang); 2004 - ITF/Jakarta 3-INA (w/Thongdach), ITF/Haibara-JPN, ITF/Mount Gambier-AUS (both w/Chan).
Finalist (1): 2006 - Tokyo [Japan Open].

CAREER IN REVIEW
2003 - Played first event of career at $10K ITF/Tainan-CHN (SF in singles, QF in doubles).

2004 - Playing exclusively on ITF Circuit, went 22-4 in singles (three titles) and 21-4 in doubles (also three titles).

2005 - Made Tour-level singles main draw debut at US Open (as qualifier, l. to No.8 seed S.Williams in 1r); fell in Tour qualifying at Beijing and Seoul; captured career-first Tour title at Seoul (w/Chuang); on ITF Circuit, won singles titles at $50K ITF/Fukuoka-JPN and $25K ITF/Taipei-TPE.

2006 IN DETAIL

FEBRUARY - Fell in Australian Open qualifying; won doubles titles at $25K ITF/Sydney-AUS and $25K ITF/Gosford-AUS (both w/Chuang).

MARCH - Won singles title at $25K ITF/Melbourne-AUS.

MAY - Fell in Roland Garros qualifying; swept at $50K ITF/Fukuoka-JPN, winning singles and doubles (w/Chuang) titles.

JUNE - In Wimbledon debut, fell 1r (as qualifier, l. to WC Molik).

JULY - Swept at $25K ITF/Kurume-JPN, winning third ITF Circuit singles title of year (eighth of career) and fourth ITF Circuit doubles title of year (seventh of career; w/Chuang).

AUGUST - Fell 1r at US Open (l. to fellow qualifier Flipkens).

SEPTEMBER - Withdrew from Kolkata w/injury.

OCTOBER - Breakthrough week at Tokyo [Japan Open], winning first ever Tour singles main draw matches in only fourth ever Tour singles main draw, reaching career-first Tour singles SF (uspet No.2 seed Sugiyama en route; l. to WC, eventual finalist Nakamura in 3s), also reaching doubles final (w/Chuang; l. to King/Kostanic); afterwards on October 9, moved from No.132 to No.101, on verge of Top 100 debut; on October 30, moved from No.101 to No.96, her career Top 100 debut.

PERSONAL
Coached by father, Chan Yuan-Liang ... Mother, Liu Hsieh-Chen, is businesswoman; younger sister, Chan Hao-Ching, is still in school ... Baseliner whose favorite shot is backhand down-the-line; favorite surface is hardcourt ... Began playing at age 6 when father introduced her to sport at tennis club ... Speaks Chinese, English ... Likes colors blue and white, light rock music, Chinese food and swimming ... Self-described as nice and easy-going ... Favorite tournament is US Open ... Goal is to reach Top 30 or higher.

AWARDS
• Won 2004 Australian Open junior doubles title w/Sheng-Nan Sun.

(to whom? how so?)

i'm not proud of not knowing where places are. i don't say 'god bishkek is so fucking shit even though i know nothing about it'.

but then nor is not knowing/caring where bujumbura is (i have no idea if Bujumbura is more famous than Chan in the world...i am terrified to suggest that it isn't, i wouldn't want to be accused of ignorance, esp. geographical ignorance - that would be the worst!)

That's already happened. I must update my MySpace profile. Maybe to replace it with 'Going home from the pub early on a Friday night to see how many South East Asian flags I can name'. Oh, hang on.

you really must.

allow, allow

there are many cds i haven't played!

1930 Jack and the band are now so popular in Europe that Hylton is awarded the 'Officer de L'Instruction Publique' by the French Government.

Happy birthday, yo!

woah. happy birthday lex!

happy belated birthday Lex, classic! You're a Virgo! (same b-day as my awesome cousin in fact...!)

happy birthday, lex.

thanks. same bday as andy roddick too!

Belated happy birthday lex!

yay! hope you had a majikal lexventure!

http://www.bangoutgames.com/games/lexventure/images/index.jpg

"Hahahaha I was JUST thinking today how the mindset of people - particularly critics - who always seem to be trying to find the good in things is totally alien to me. I feel that if your natural, instinctive response to a thing is revulsion or disapproval, this should only be encouraged."
--Lex, on his Tumblr

Ugh. I think there is definitely something to be said for following your instincts and paying attention to first impressions, etc., but when that turns into purposefully closing yourself off from the ability to understand something on its own terms, it suggests a blinkered worldview that I'd rather not encounter in criticism. I mean, I lol'd as much as everyone at else "OK THEN, HAPPILY!" but it also grated that Lex seemed to be missing the point about "Loser" and seemed to have no particular curiosity or interest in attempting to figure out what others saw in the song.

I said this a few days ago:
Lex, I guess the thing I find most infuriating is your implication that anyone who likes certain artists that happen to fall within the indie or rock canon has somehow been hoodwinked into doing so, and that you are the only person who is clear-eyed enough to see the truth.

And also:
I mean, I don't give a toss about Bob Dylan at all -- I think his music is boring -- but I absolutely get why other people, those who privilege things like lyrics and personae more than I do, find something of value in him. I'd be curious to know why you think so many people like Beck or Pavement or My Bloody Valentine or Neutral Milk Hotel. (Without suggesting that those people are dumb or brainwashed or whatever.)

I'd still be interested in a reply.

(Probably should've revived an ILM thread, but w/e.)

lex did you ever listen to be your own pet

i don't think so, is that because i'll hate them or love them?

"Hahahaha I was JUST thinking today how the mindset of people - particularly critics - who always seem to be trying to find the good in things is totally alien to me. I feel that if your natural, instinctive response to a thing is revulsion or disapproval, this should only be encouraged."

the thing about this is -- and Lex, as a pop-ist, knows this, too; it's pop credo -- one's "natural, instinctive" responses to art are seldom actually natural or instinctive. which is why some of us (raising hand) are often drawn to explore the things that repel or bore or offend us. there's a lot of room for play in interrogating these "ntaural, instinctive" responses.

Dude if you're still classifying Lex as a popist you've missed something.

lex i think you might like byop -- not positive tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvPvq_91Q64

this is the single from their second (& final) album that came out the year before last

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WQpvR945Rs

there are some jams on Jemina's solo record too

(which I'm more familiar w/ than BYOP)

i quite liked the first one to start with but by the end it seemed a bit karenoke o circa 2002 sans the hooks

i think when it comes to that punky yowly sound, the stuff i love tends to be secretly really really tightly structured (eg early pj harvey and yeah, yyys)

the second one is much much better! but i already have and cherish a copy of sleater-kinney's one beat, which is basically that but with good lyrics, not bad ones

i should get around to s-k one day

yes, also pj harvey. one beat is the only s-k album i really love though, never got into the others i tried. but it's amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLgPGpX5Gek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpLhrLzSaFQ

re j0rdan: you should. not necessarily one beat, but yeah, sk.

Dig Me Out
The Hot Rock
One Beat
Call The Doctor

also, pj harvey >>> sleater-kinney, and thus better to check out first

i think i tried the hot rock and call the doctor but just couldn't get into them, which was weird considering how immediate one beat was. oh, i like the woods fine, it's not v listenable but then that wasn't really its point.

lex might as well be geir in terms of actual worth in trying to understand musical views. difference is lex is a good laugh and lots of fun as a human being and i don't know geir.

^ board descrip, 2006

what happened to tennis when it went from line judge to lasers? was it a big deal?

it's still line judge based (apart from lets on serve, which are computerised) - line judges call the lines first, the lasers come in if a player decides to challenge (and they can only do so like...four times a set or something, to stop the more gamesmanship-minded players from challenging every single call).

it's weird to remember that there was so much debate about bringing it in - it seems such an obvious thing to do in retrospect (the technology had already been available to commentators for YEARS). pretty much everyone loves it, except roger federer. the only vague issue is that it's only available on certain courts at certain tournaments so eg most lower-ranked players won't get to use it. thought it's quite funny to see a top player on an outside court/at a smaller tournament make as if to challenge, then realise they can't.

hah, thanks for your answer! :D

lex, what do you think of "The Rabbit" by mahjongg?

Song starts at like 3:05:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh-od12FUfE

lex might as well be geir in terms of actual worth in trying to understand musical views. difference is lex is a good laugh and lots of fun as a human being and i don't know geir.
--I see what this is (Local Garda)

CLASSIC

LEX IS ETERNAL

i should get around to s-k one day

― banaka socka flame (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, September 14, 2010 11:08 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark

my friend that day is TODAY and you will start with THE WOODS and work your way backwards

Happy birthday lex!

happy birthday to my favorite comedy act

smh

thx u guys

http://img.dazedcdn.com/700/dd/260/0/260666.jpg

HI. I'M BEN KLOCK. AND MY CHEEKBONES ARE HERE TO WISH LEX HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

why so sad, ben? it's lex's birthday

He is not sad. He is pining, soulfully, for Lex.

I like Ben just like that :D

hey lex, do u know ester rada? she's an ethiopian israeli r&b singer. her ep is here, i guess there's an lp expected later this year. curious what you think:
http://esterrada.bandcamp.com/album/life-happens-ep

Another year of Lex!

happy birthday lex, keep up the good work

As this latest ILX personality seems to hijack every thread I read with what I'm still not sure isn't trolling, I'm gonna say Happy Birthday.

ffm forever

hb lex, keep hijackin those threads

It seems like he hates most music.

most shit music

oh right

always baffling to me when people are riled up by lex. i find his opprobrium at the very least entertaining even if i don't agree. he's good on music he likes, which is usually in places with like "3 new answers" or w/e so tends to be missed? idk

classic

lex is classic I want to cook dinner for lex sometime

lex is classic

indie rockers be butthurt

It seems like he hates most music.

― maybe/whatever/so what/boring (admrl), Tuesday, June 9, 2015 11:40 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i know he's expressive and vehement when he hates something but c'mon this perception is so weird... do you ever check the bobbins thread or like r&b threads?

:)

i love music

have i even been hating on much recently? apart from pc music but obvvvvv that is utter trash