Glastonbury 2007 starts here...

(If I say it often enough I might believe it)

this is still kind of FCFS in that they haven't said that they are limiting the pre-registration numbers.

also, anyone not computer literate enough to sign up for this online won't be literate enough to get one times ticket will they? do they even bother with the phone lines anymore?

Those of us who were there in April 2004 still meet up, once a year, to trade stories and relive the blood, sweat and sheer terror.

But ont he whole this is to prevent the computer illiterate going, which smacks of some sort of Sarah Jane Adventures plot to turn us all into some giant HUMANG computah or something, to take over the world.

CURSES, the rain has foiled my plan.

thinking about various ones in spain this year

Well...

-- Tom (freakytrigge...) (webmail), Today 10:31 AM. (Groke) (later) (link)

OTfuckin'M!

(damn my SHELFISH friends and their poxy "weddings")

Last time I went, they had a four-star restaurant tent! (I know, I had to pinch myself!)

But what if you don't want to sell it for a profit, but just to recoup your money after Grannydeath? And what if you get a new haircut, or start wearing glasses, or suffer horrible facial injuries in a freak smiling accident?

And you just know that hundreds of people will be sent tickets with someone else's picture on it...

miserable start.

http://www.glastonburyregistration.com/

v straight forward (as long as you have a scanned passport-style photo), address details can be edited it seems.

emily was on the radio this morning and seems totally interweb-phobic, urging ppl to go to millets rather than do it online, the odd person. she also mentioned "phoning up for tickets", wtf???

Hi dere I has a lineup

It's not great, usual suspects on dance-wise (plus Vitalic/Glimmers/Simian Mobile Disco which might be quite fun). Bjork hooray, Arcade Fire hooray, Iggy And The Stooges = AWESOME, and a few others I wouldn't mind seeing (CSS, Chemical Brothers yet again).

Otherwise this could be a 'wandering about and getting twatted in tents' kind of festival I think.

Also - CarsmileSteve Stage, Friday

23:25 - Ned's Atomic Dustbin
22:40 - Back To The Planet
21:20 - Cud

Oh lord.

'Leftfield Stage - 20:35: Get Cape, Wear Cape, Fly with Plan B'

i'm going to this event, but i don't know why.

G Stage
12:00 Gaudi
13:30 Ott
15:00 Shpongle
17:30 Hydrophonic
18:15 Beardy
20:15 Tron
20:45 Allaby
21:30 Tristian

What does this even mean?

how so

This looks like The Music Festival From Hell (TM), even moreso than usual.

Can you imagine anything worse than this?
16:30 Lilly Allen
18:00 Paolo Nutini
19:30 Paul Weller Shouts At Young People

Well, actually, I could...
18:30 Members of the Manic Street Preachers that aren't dead
20:00 Well, I wish the Kaiser Chiefs were dead
22:05 Members of The Who that aren't dead

on first glance that looks like the worst lineup ever! daft punk are playing, aren't they? where are they on the lineup? didn't spot them when scanning through.

Should I bother with Spiritualized? Aren't they doing a stripped-down band thing these days? (boo if so, I want guitar noise and light shows)

i keep thinking this is ages away, but it's not at all. is there any kind of fap or anything happening?

<i>G Stage
12:00 Gaudi
13:30 Ott
15:00 Shpongle
17:30 Hydrophonic
18:15 Beardy
20:15 Tron
20:45 Allaby
21:30 Tristian

What does this even mean?</i>

i understand, m'lud, that it is the Young Person's Psytrance.

there is EASILY enough to keep me happy i think, although the acoustic stage line-up is disappointing, nary a Carthy or a Waterson to be seen...

PISS OFF WITH YR LACK OF PROPER TAGS ILX (where has the warning gone??)

http://kscakes.com.nyud.net:8080/LolCats/Uploads/Saved/noes-upside-down-hed1.jpg

Forecast time

Actual forecast time

no Lock Tavern/Beetroot field tent this year :(

is there any kind of fap or anything happening

hold on, what's going on there:

http://www.adventuresinthebeetrootfield.com/glastonbury.php

that had a glasto line-up the last time i looked, now it's all weird...

also g-kit, thursday from 5 by the brothers bar perry stall in the jazzworld field as per every glasto this century ;)

k how 2 recognise ilx

also the gossip seem to have dropped off the john peel stage line-up on the official site, but they're still on e-festivals.

also e-festivals is still showing a lock tav tent:
http://www.efestivals.co.uk/festivals/lineups.php?hits_seen=875&FestID=1175

dude, you mean you haven't got the tattoo yet?

have you met *any* of the ppl going?

i met ken, but nobody else

FVCK ME that metcheck prediction is pessimistic...

http://glastofestivalforecast.blogspot.com/ are a little more optimistic, although they do seem to have SOLD OUT to some crappy weather website...

k i'm not going if it's gonna rain

hmmmm, could be tricky. i don't think we haf a flag or anything (i *knew* i should've bought one at girls aloud the other week)...

i like teh ginger one

ken has informed me by Other Channels that he is intending to meet us, so maybe we can just stick him on a pole and wave him about. however he has said this every year and i don't think he's made it yet. in fact, i don't think i've EVER met ken at glastonbury...

that's because ken quit ilx

I'm not looking at any weather forecasts until at least next Thursday.

By which I mean 'I'm looking at all of them, just not trusting them'. A couple of weeks before Glasto 2005 they were predicting bright sunshine.

I think they were still doing that on the Tuesday.

Meteorologists delight in hurting the common man.

I am going to be attending this year's festival in a large plastic bubble, which will protect me from the rain and allow me to be rolled aloft the arms of the crowd to superior viewing positions.

lock tavern / adventures in beetroot have been BOOTED OUT of the tent they've been in for 3 years. they got into bed with microsft with 'hillarious' consequences:

http://www.efestivals.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=80243&st=0&gopid=1779770&#entry1779770

what a load of nonsense, i suppose if AITBF have been doing other festivals with microsoft they'd want ot keep it going. wasn't the whole thing sponsored by playstation two years ago though? wasn't that why pete and i got to do singstar to the crowds...

I CAN HAS AN BAND ON!!

please to ban me from this thread kthxbye x

it sounded like this was going 2 b a corporate sponsorship step too far - huge computer games on display etc. as is detailed
here
http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/content/presscentre/releases/2007/05/PR03829.mspx

the lock / beetroot guys immaterial of who sponsors it were what made it great the last few years. i wonder what's in its place now, or if any of those same DJs who were booked are still doing it. whatever 'it' is now. it all seems a shame for all sides. except microsoft.

I found the Lock Tavern a bit depressing last time. Too rammed and full of people trying desperately to be in the coolest place to be. Mind you, I found everything a bit depressing last time.

The Red Bull tent in 2004 was good, apart from the dangerous lack of anything but Red Bull to drink. Was that there in 2005? I can't even remember.

you mis old sod ;)

it looks like bits of the line-up are on other stages, maybe the tent will just be a big pieminister stall (NB not square pies ;))...

really? that's surprising. saturday night fr the bugged out bit was quiet compared to previous years i recall. but horses/courses etc.

i'd imagine/hope the non-lock tent will be good whatever it turns out to be.
this year's late night enterainment option is just too depressing to contemplate:

http://blog.q4music.com/glastonbury/2007/05/q_curates_the_queens_head_at_g.html

dude there's proper indie disco up in the park! ;)

hello!

i don't think i've ever met anyone ilx in glasto apart from the dirty vicar.

i think i tried to one time but didn't make it to the place til friday night (just as DAVID GRAY was on)

will definitely brothers it this time though.

i refuse to believe anywhere that has association with the lock tavern can be the coolest place to be.

xpost INDIE DISCO!!!!111

dude there's proper indie disco up in the park! ;)

-- CarsmileSteve, Friday, 8 June 2007 13:57 (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

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am i missing something? wouldn't be the first time i grant you.

Ken I'm pretty sure I have met you at Glasto, as did Colette, Jim, Rob Bolton etc.

the pub itself might not be i dunno but the tent was. well cool meaning 'good' an ting.

are there arcades at glastonbury

solar-powered pacman

I thought it was powered by sunflower oil? Or was that one of the pinball machines?

i shall take DS

ken, matt's right - a bunch of us met you beside the mixing tent in the other field. can't recall what band was on (chemical bros, maybe?), as i was kinda off my face, eh?

if glasto is sunny and nice this year i'm going to cry.

are there arcades at glastonbury

you better believe it! it's called 'eco-arcadia'(powered by chip fat oil):
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/ilikemyvespa/London%20misc/IMG_2345.jpg

me playing ASTEROIDS, yo
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/ilikemyvespa/London%20misc/IMG_2344.jpg

goddammit
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/ilikemyvespa/London%20misc/IMG_2344.jpg

also ILXORS meeting at the brothers bar drinking perry look like this:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y170/ilikemyvespa/London%20misc/Glastonbury2004-ilxors.jpg

OH MAN I REALLY WANT TO GO THIS YEAR NOT FAIR GRRRR

I am wearing that T-shirt right now!

I don't know where I was when that was taken, just off the edge of the shot presumably. I am terrified by even looking at those 2litre bottles.

NOM NOM NOM!

that's a great pic rob, i'm not sure i've seen it before...

look at me with my stupid hat on :)

i don't think i recognise up any of those ilx0rs. ok see y'all in the chip fat arcade (as long as it doesn't rain obv)

ah I kinda wish I was going too, I remember those sunny Thursdays very well.

is everyone else getting excited?

i dunno, how's the weather looking?

I am excited. I'm also wondering if anyone knows where I can buy one of those magic battery-powered phone charger thingies.

I have one of those but I can't tell you where I got it.

probably romford

i understood they were a bit bobbins, sarah had one from muji a few years ago and said it was poo, but i think technology may have advanced.

It worked fine when I tried Magnus's a couple of years ago.

mine doesn't work with my phone, so i'd say you're wrong. xpost matt, you can have mine.

I bought a Nokia one for my sister in that old department store in Oxford many years ago. I don't know if it works.

You should get a phone with a battery that lasts for about five days, like mine.

i was contemplating just buying another phone battery...

sorry mattdc, offer just expired.

when come back, bring wellies :(

dudes, it's going to piss down, seemingly all weekend :***(

sarah had one from muji a few years ago and said it was poo

i can second the poo-osity of muji's mobile charger thing - not only did it not charge my nokia, it actually prompted my nokia to display a cheeky nose-thumbing "not charging" message on screen! made my bloody boil...

conclusion: spare battery. worth the cash i think. or there's the orange charging marquee thing but i'm probably not allowed to talk about that :-)

what, you're not allowed to officially tell everyone that when you take your phone there and leave it for 5 hours then queue for another hour and get it back the USELESS FUCKING FUCKTARDS haven't actually charged it at all? there. i told everyone for you. now you won't get in trouble.

in other news WHY DID I SAY NO TO CARAVAN.

is it looking to be glastonMUD, or just a fairly rainy?

It's looking like being interspersed showers with bits of sun and generally a bit grey, but a couple of those showers could end up being like the sort of downpour that basically decimated the site on Sunday in 2004. But if it rains throughout the rest of this week then we're fucked anyway.

MEH

On the upside, if 2005 is anything to go by (absolute torrential rain on Friday, actually able to sit down throughout quite a lot of the site on Sunday) then drainage at Worthy Farm has improved HUGELY since 1998.

I am investing in a shiny new cagoule today either way.

what, you're not allowed to officially tell everyone that when you take your phone there and leave it for 5 hours then queue for another hour and get it back the USELESS FUCKING FUCKTARDS haven't actually charged it at all?

exactly! thanks for filling in.

anyway, while you folks are wading around in your own filth, i shall be lording it in both bishop auckland and bremen, wearing a fine linen suit and perhaps carrying a cane. haha "festivals".

("get off this fucking thread then" - everybody...)

also, (allegedly) mud-free glasto: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,2105170,00.html

That's encouraging, especially this:

To minimise the chances of deep mud in front of the Pyramid stage, the main event venue, the topsoil has been removed and thousands more tonnes of hardcore laid before the soil was replaced, raising the level of the stage slightly out of the hollow that it has occupied for 37 years.

Now perhaps they could be sensible and do that to the area around the bloody Other Stage, which is always the worst if it rains.

So should I stay or should I go?

in motorway service stations now you can get those battery chargers i think.

How much are spare batteries anyway? I may pop over to Carphone Warehouse at lunchtime.

So should I stay or should I go?

Put it this way you could stay at home and then see it be 'not that bad' on telly and think 'shit I've wasted £150'. Or you could go there and find out it actually IS really muddy but it will still be brilliant because it ALWAYS IS.

Really I thought the muddy ones were rubbish.

you could go there and find out it actually IS really muddy but it will still be brilliant because it ALWAYS IS.

this is WISDOM.

you would be mad to buy a ticket but then not go, whatever the weather.

bah, ppl who go down the front of the pyramint stage get everything they deserve. the NME Other stage field has been gerfuckened since '97, it's a horrible wind-blasted wasteland...

ALSO!!!!

The true Year of the Mud was 1997. Pictures of revellers caked head to toe in sludge were published across the world after some of the worst weather in the event's history

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT GUARDIAN, 98 was far worse than 97 as any fule kno. in 97 it had stopped raining by friday lunchtime and didn't start again until monday morning, whereas 98 it rained right through friday and saturday...

Not to mention the fact that there was no Glasto at all in 2001, so I dunno where all these people supposedly jumping the fence were doing.

haha, i missed that!

and why no mention of the blackout glastonbury of 1944 when vera lynn appeared lit only by candles and everyone ate powdered egg curry?

in 97 it had stopped raining by friday lunchtime and didn't start again until monday morning, whereas 98 it rained right through friday and saturday...

this is true - in 98 it was so horrible when we arrived that three of my five mates turned on their heel and went straight home again...only to ring me, distraught on saturday afternoon saying "omg we're watching it on tellee and it looks lovely despite the mud and now we feel sillee and oh all that money for feck-all ectect"

rough translation: g-kit DO NOT SQUANDER THIS WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY especially because i'm not going and baby jesus will cry if you have a ticket and don't use it :-(

good job i ain't religious then...

i have to say, i watched 97 on the telly and was like "lol thank fuck i'm not in all that mud it looks awful" then i went in 98 and i was like "NOES I AM IN THE MUD JUST LIKE ON TV BUT REAL AND ACTUALLY WORSE"

i've had one sunny glasto, and that's cemented in my mind as "the good one".

i got 3 pretty fine and dry Glastos before a wet and muddy one in 04 and even then that was only the last 2 and a half days of being there.

and that's why you don't wear the same scars as me.

so we've established: g-kit doesn't like mud, even if it's mud at glasto.

i'm going to primark tomorrow to buy loads of cheap clothes that i don't mind getting ruined.

oh wait i forgot ken is going. i still might make it.

do you want me to buy you some primark clothes?

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT GUARDIAN, 98 was far worse than 97 as any fule kno.

---

well said that man. hell on earth looking back.

it's the only time i've ever really really wanted to go home (we were in cheltenham at the time, so was only 2 hours away tops) when we realised our tent had blim holes all over the bottom and we were, in fact, attempting to sleep in 3 inches of water. we decamped to friends tent for the night, dried it out and gaffa-taped the holes the next day and used the same crappy tent for the NEXT THREE GLASTOS!

i still say that the nu rave generation reared on ipods and 24 hour broadband would freak out at a '98 style glasto and that it would put paid to a lot of the 'greatest show on earth' type talk for the next few years. i recall at the end of '98 that even the SELECT daily paper onsite was dissing the entire affair for being badly managed and such. reading the NME a week later it really did seem that it was all hanging in the balance. 2000's fantastic torn-down-fences/ glorious sunshine over-subscribed caper pretty much sealed it's current status. i often wonder what 'another '98' would bring.

Last year's was pretty grim to be honest. Admittedly it didn't rain constantly all weekend like in 98 but that torrential storm was as bad as it gets.

TBH I think the initial reaction among yer enthusiastic first timers is as much likely to be "wahey there's mud, now it's a REAL festival!"

Almost the most depressing thing about wet Glastonburys is watching all the teenagers getting deliberately covered in mud and knowing that it is not possible for you to have fun like that.

I had pretty rub time in 1998 and 2005 but I am telling myself it was just a coincidence.

'98 was my first year - first ever festival ever, come to think of it.
baptism of mud. everything after that is easy...

oh look at that naff new NME front cover

http://tinyurl.com/2k5yjr

I think I got through 2005 by getting more off my face than at any previous Glastonbury. It worked. Apart from falling on my arse in a huge pool of mud on Friday night.

sorry folkarinos, but:

Mudbath ahoy for Glastonbury

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/weather/article1951313.ece

That's not all

scrumpy & western!

i fucking hate the wurzels

oh muddypaws :(

OMGZ I SHOT CARAVAN!

plz 2 haev?

we can bring guests but they can't use our showers or stay overnight. it sez here.

anyone know which gate the shuttle from castle cary drops ppl off at?

(PLS SAY BLUE, PLS SAY BLUE)

BLUE.

YOU'RE SO KIND

(is it really??)

No, I have no idea.

haha!

the first time i went (99) i WAS worried about the mud/weather based on the horror the year before and not looking forward to that aspect. i would never have been one of those people rolling around in it like TV cameras are so fond to project as the true definitive image of the festival in recent years (rather ridiculous).

I am resigned to mud now and anything less than armageddon will be a pleasant surprise.

Although I am also sort of annoyed that this thread confirms that Glasto 2006 would have been a scorcher. Ouch.

Sorry, I mean this thread:

This is the thread where those of us who wish there was a Glastonbury this year can fantasise about what we'd be doing if it were on

what was the weather like end of June 2001? anyone remember? i think they do it on purpose.

yes i clearly remember the weather from june 2001 it was hot hail, meteorites and frozen oceans.

was the weather for the sunny years on other threads predicted as rain also ? (in 2002-2004) has anyone checked? i'm too scared to.

I think in 2002 or 2003 there was mad rain predicted and it wasn't that bad in the end.

Frankly all I need are some rubber gloves and a plastic mask and I'd be able to waterproof every inch of my body. I may actually do so. Possibly with a Cyberman mask.

Summer 2001 was awesome for me so it was probably hot and dry that weekend too.

Anyway BBC Weather is now saying predominantly sunny Wednesday, pissing rain Thursday, light rain Friday, pissing rain Saturday.

More importantly DO WE HAVE A THURSDAY NIGHT FAP RAIN CONTINGENCY PLAN? I'm not sitting in the Jazz World field in the rain - where's the nearest covered beer tent?

they should turn that far flung ranch type place to the north east of the Pyramid stage into a bierhall.

I would swim through rivers of mud for a proper Glato bierkeller. Actually no I wouldn't.

i want to go now :-(

if you can fashion yourself a g-kit disguise, it could be arranged.

Glasto has just plummeted to an all-time low, chav-guitar band Hard-Fi headline leftfield stage !
http://www.drownedinsound.com/articles/2105809

New headliner confirmed for Glastonbury
Hard-Fi will headline the Leftfield Stage at Glastonbury Festival this Saturday (23 Jun).

Hard-Fi on the "Leftfield Stage" !

dude the bands are always crap

it's Left Field Stage

does that mean something

it's the field on the left.

no contingency plan yet, i think a wait and see approach is all we can offer...

i recall at the end of '98 that even the SELECT daily paper onsite was dissing the entire affair for being badly managed and such. reading the NME a week later it really did seem that it was all hanging in the balance. 2000's fantastic torn-down-fences/ glorious sunshine over-subscribed caper pretty much sealed it's current status. i often wonder what 'another '98' would bring.

-- pisces, Monday, June 18, 2007 10:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

loving the retired colonel attitude to the nu-ravers, i sort of agree! in '98 i don't think many people had mobile phones. you made your own fun in those days.

Placards "Say no to Chav Rock - Hard-Fi are Shite"

2005 was another 1998.

and 2007 is another 2005?

dj martian you need to get over this.

in '98 i don't think many people had mobile phones

damn right - we wasted a lot of time laughing at the Henrys and Pippas with their mobiles back in the day. Now, of course, I'd shit my boots without one. Fucking ridiculous world.

the coverage is always shite, SMS messages take days to get through, and it's too expensive to make calls in the UK on an Irish phone = I essentially never rely on phones at Glastonbury. Anyway, no one ever wants to contact me (and I'm not going).

Martian stop hating on the chavs you classacialist. tell us your Glastonbury war stories.

i like the idea of not taking a mobile phone now

of the years I went, 98 is the only time I had a bad time. partly this was not being used to the rain, but some cockfarmer stealing my tent did not help matters.

now, though, I say let it rain. It is not a problem if you have the right gear - boots, gaiters, cape.

PMA! PLUR!

i like the idea of not taking a mobile phone now

otm! i virtually spend longer trying and failing to meet people, and worrying about same, post-mobile, than i do actually enjoying the bloody festival...

I got around this problem last time by not trying to meet people. You will keep running into them.

I think that Twitter would be the ideal way of keeping things loosely organised, but it's too late to get everyone I know on it.

2005 was another 1998.

-- Matt DC, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 15:07 (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

nope. glorious on sunday in 05. still pissing on sunday in 98.

I remember nothing of this glorious Sunday. I just remember it stopping raining a bit and it still being brown and disgusting everywhere.

I remember spending quite a lot of Sunday 2005 sitting down and it being quite dry, this was only in specific areas though ie the southern kids field with the Tardis, the bit around the Pyramid and Acoustic stages and maybe a few other places. The Stone Circle usually copes quite well as well.

Although it has just started pissing it down in London so if it doesn't stop all week across the whole South of England we could be fucked.

the sun is still out here but it's pouring down at the same time

No rain here and I'm not far from you Matt!

I have glorious memories of being able to sit on dry ground on that Sunday 2005 and eating curry goat...

You're probably right. When was Brian Wilson? That was quite nice.

I am coping with this year's weather by treating it as a challenge. So far I have been attacking this challenge by throwing money at the problem. I've probably spent £300 on gear in total.

By gear I don't mean drugs. That would be stupid.

How much does a bog standard cagoule cost anyway? My last one which was about ten years old failed to make it through the last Glasto.

Also bear in mind two year's ago a month's worth of rain fell in two hours and big parts of the site dried out. With improved drainage and less mental if more constant rain it might be reasonable for walking around.

A bog-standard single-skin non-breathable one - about £20?

you can borrow my yellow RADIOHEAD one if you like

why did i buy a yellow cagoule? why did i buy a yellow RADIOHEAD cagoule?

haha.

matt, i thought you said you were already totally waterproofed-up save for a face mask and rubber gloves?

uniqlo have nice pac-a-mac things.

got my wellies nicked in 98 :(

Always sleep in your wellies.

i have been ever since

Detailed 2007 map here:

http://www.gorge.org/glastonbury/glasto2007.jpg

I think it only works if you paste it into your address bar.

And if that doesn't work either, follow the "2007 access map" link from http://www.gorge.org/glastonbury/onnastick.shtml

YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY even with rain i am so excited about this
all sorts of plans are being made...

I AM EXCITED.

I am trying to find out from my friend who's already there how muddy the place actually is. Apparently it got major rain last night, worse than is forecasted for the festival, which could have fucked the ground up.

oh fuck, oh lord. been checking weather sites and finally they all concur but they all concur that there will be MASSIVE RAIN

ohwell

don't camp low down, i guess

glastonbury: so like over?

http://arts.independent.co.uk/music/features/article2679118.ece

Glastonbury has become the must-have ticket of the British social season, irrespective of whether you actually like music

and there's the rub, ladies and gents.

is expected to have an attendance of 177,500, making it the biggest since the festival started in 1970.

tho it's widely thought that 2000's and probably 99's too exceeded this figure (closer to 200k i reckon), if not any other years before.

been checking weather sites and finally they all concur but they all concur that there will be MASSIVE RAIN

They've been saying that all week. Strangely MetCheck and BBC have now switched to saying either light rain or intermittent rain. The most consistent rainy spell appears to be overnight and early morning on Thursday which should be enough to knacker the site. It'll definitely be muddy, question is how muddy.

Glastonbury has become the must-have ticket of the British social season, irrespective of whether you actually like music

and there's the rub, ladies and gents.

yeah i really wish they would stop like trying to book the! biggest! bands! and get XXX's! only! summer! uk! appearance! like stop it, if oasis are doing one show all summer they should do a fucking oasis gig and keep all the twats in one place :/ but i dunno, for some reason i get the feeling emily e doesn't really question that that's the right way to go.

Alba, several of us have set up twitters, i imagine you can guess how to find mine.

(assuming he hasn't already left...)

I'm jealous :( lots of friends are going this year but I was skint as usual and couldn't afford it. I'm not quite jealous enough to hope it's really horrible and muddy though, that would be mean.

please to explain twitter? if it's what i suspect it might be, it's THE BEST IDEA IN THE WORLD for festivals...

i didn't even know what twitter was until 4 minutes ago. i feel like my grandma.

are ilxors going to be at brothers bar thurs eve?

yes, yes we are emsk, from 5ish.

unless it's pissing down, in which case we might be soemwhere else...

* The joys of sleeping in the open air in a wet and muddy field will start to wear thin for the increasingly moneyed crowd
--

someone's been reading ILM over at INDY towers.

carsmile i have sent you webmail

I'm hoping for intermittent showers. Indeed the weather we have had in London for the last week would almost be my perfect Glasto weather!

i have got yr webmail and shall inform you of our whereabouts :)

I can't state how important it is you camp at the TOP of a hill. The TOP, you hear? :)

Hey who's up for going to see SERENITY on thursday evening???!?!?!?!

Okay according to a friend of mine there is no mud yet despite massive rain yesterday.

wait til the hordes descend this evening

i got a text at about 11 last night saying whole place is packed, not muddy at all

i'm not at glastonbury cos they keep saying words like "thunderstorms" on the weather.

An old person writes...

Will someone please expalin what a twitter is?

Thank you

Newbie's guide to Twitter
By Rafe Needleman
http://www.webware.com/8301-1_109-9697867-2.html

Just watching Arctic Monkeys on TV now...

How come I get the feeling that like 80% of all the bands that have been hyped over the last 30 years are pretty much The Jam tribute acts? (see also, just one random example: The Enemy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZCVds_Q3WE )

worst cover ever

I like that the BBC has expanded their coverage to include BBC4, where they play the "other stage" acts (i.e. Rufus Wainwright and the Arcade Fire).

i liked the AMs

they dont seem 'big' sounding enough yet for glastonbury though and they seemed to falter on a few songs (their guitarist did at least)

i wish jo whiley and the other hosts were better interviewers though or just said something more interesting after the performances

FFS

plus their setist seemed to not be planned too well. peaked to early...

TOO

I thought the AMs were great, and I liked the cover, thought he managed it rather well. That drummer f***ing rocks. What I saw of Arcade fire was tremendous, that was the point I got the jealous pangs (until they showed more mud). Impressed with young Ms Allen's ability to hold a tune as well. Beforehand I was expecting to be grudgingly impressed by Amy Winehouse but no - bloody awful, she's as shite as I thought she was.

the red button last night revealed a roof-raising spanish guitar performance by a man and woman, named "(something) y gabriel" - truly exhilarating, amazing stuff, two people just at the top of their game. i can't understand how they can keep it up, they must have lost a stone just playing their set. they were so good, and so passionate i kind of choked up a little bit!

iggy, despite great security-pissing-off audience-participation antics, was pretty crap i thought.

maybe part of the reason i liked the guitar players so much was that it reminded me that there is some part of glastonbury that remains an actual "music festival" rather than simply a giant unit-shifting advertisement for bands you have already heard 1xmillion times

sounds like you're talking about Rodrigo Y Gabriel(a), Tracer

yes, thank you blueski, indeed I am.

*googles rodrigo y gabriela*

R y G rock. They are totally awesome. I live in the city in which they are based, so why do I never go to their gigs and instead have only ever seen them at Glastonbury? Because I R FULE.

SRSLY, if they play your town, go and see them.

Gossip = just the one song then? with the odd minor variation.

Chemical brothers lightshow = wow

this thread and the whole of ilm seems quiet on the subject.

bjork was using a reactable during her set = great (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h-RhyopUmc)
lily allen had two of the specials with her and sang Heart Of Glass = great
shirley bassey seemed like a game old bird
chemical brothers looked aces

bbc had 5 channels of glasto coverage = overdoing it a bit
too many flags
too much colin murray

too much mud

I missed the Glasto Stooges set, but they were great on J.Ross show.

Was that the Who doing "Rael"? Or am I a mad thing ted?

daltrey looked v v bored, i don't blame him

i've never understood the st. george's cross thing; at t in the park there are loads of scottish flags but that seems more understandable somehow

see also, just one random example: The Enemy

haha yes, my mate phil's been raving abt 'em for ages and when I finally saw them I thought "it's just a poor jam rip off. the singer even *looks* like wellah".

I enjoyed the glasto footage I saw on the telly this w/e, especially shirley bassey!

welcome to England, Tracer Hand, TEEMING with nationalists proud of this country's astonishing cultural heritage that lives on today in the form of The Kooks. really tho, don't see why England flags make less sense than Scotland flags these days.

i don't think i would've gone to see the Chems if i'd been there. the thought of yet another dragged-out 'Private Psychedelic Reel' finale too much to bear (can't they remix it at least?).

I'm currently listening to the Enemy, but not that one.

most of the national flags i saw were scottish, oddly. and one welsh. and one columbia (wide yellow band, thinner red and blue beneath it, like a sunset on a beach, only upside down).

wonder what shirley made of the inflatable doll?

Love the reactable.

Also love this comment on the youtube of the reactable...

Hi, yes very beautiful but it is only a synthesizer with a projector and a camera under the table!!!!!

Not number of exclamation marks as if 'only' being this is somehow not really really cool.

i don't think i would've gone to see the Chems if i'd been there. the thought of yet another dragged-out 'Private Psychedelic Reel' finale too much to bear (can't they remix it at least?).

-- blueski, Monday, June 25, 2007 8:13 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

that is kind of sadface

did they play in '99? can't remember - i may have only seen them once at Glastonbury (03).

I think they did play in '99. I was there but didn't see them. Fuck knows who I was watching. Was Patti Smith that year?

i meant 04 not 03, keep doing that bah.

i just got a text that says "still in car park"

i'm now unsure if i ever saw them at all. you know what they say about the nineties: "if you can remember them..."

I've never seen them despite being at several festivals where they were playing. It was always "they always play, and X band is on at the same time, so I'll go and watch X instead".

watching clips of their 2000 set on youtube now - still good! not sure why/how i forgot they were there (apparently playing to biggest crowd in festival's history, at that point at least).

That was the closest any Glastonbury has ever come to defeating me. I feel absolutely destroyed now. The hour and a half of queuing in the pissing rain for the cunting atrociously organised National Express coaches while all my waterproof stuff gave up was the worst bit.

I am too tired and dazed to type more but most of it up to the end of the Chemical Brothers I enjoyed. Everything that came after it = hell. Everyone else I camped with had to endure varying degrees of misery, I got through it alright by staying absolutely off my face almost all weekend, which is fine until the point when you have to go home.

Haha this = classic.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42420000/jpg/_42420742_defenders_203.jpg

you've not been put off going next year i trust? i think i refuse to attend again until they move it back a few weeks.

babies at glasto seems v wrong to me.

Will I be going again next year? Probably. Does it feel like that right now? No. Am I ready to go and camp in another field in the country in two weeks time? No, but give that a few days.

haha you guys are lame - I got out of the carpark in 15 minutes!!! And we didn't even get up until noon on Monday!

my favourite moment was when I was sitting on my fold out chair, in the middle of 5 inches on mud, eating noodles and with a brothers lemon cider in the drinks holder, watching mika and go! team and grinning like mad, having a great time, and watching people walk/sail along the mud water. it was a strangely exhilarating experience (i was not on drugs)

saturday's mud was awful though, when it started to dry out slightly! every step took about 3 attempts, but it worked out okay because somehow i got given some laughing gas, and then i went back to my tent and slept from 7pm until the next morning - 15 hours! i felt bloody great on sunday.

i saw that baby!

there were bazillions of kids there, glasto being the only place where those big off-road pushchairs make any sense, rather than, say, church street, where they are WIDER THAN THE PAVEMENT.

hi i had a pretty good time, although rain and mud and too many ppl were all a bit of a downer. important cultural shift, number 1 in a series: virtually EVERY act getting the crowd to sing along at some point.

omgz i think i know that baby!
awesome awesome weekend
today i am sad and deflated
i think editors might be my new favourite band

In our house, we have a problem...

Well, every time we see Glasto start up it's all "oh, wouldn;t it be great to go, ah but the kids are a bit young, maybe when they're 14 or so.."

Then I remind people of:

1) Decent weather is never certain (to say the least)
2) Bedding down for the night is never a case of "everyone is quiet now"..."zzzzz"
3) Comitted! You can not leave! Until the end! Or, when you leave you are OUT!!!

Well, that was my experience(s). Have things changed re: 2 or 3? I know it's different from when I last went, but how diff?

3 - you can leave and come back.

Well, you always *could*, but where would you go? Towns are miles away, and I guess the buses/trains aren't exactly regular or close...

you can always go into that posh caravan hotel with minigolf. or the tipi village.

what i did in glastonbury
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and the tricolor (traditional perry, lemon perry, strawberry perry, plus a spare cup for perry experiment)

I just want to pop in to say that reactable thing Bjork apparently used looks AWESOMELY amazing. I used to want to go to a Glasto some day. But the idea of endless mud cold and no sleep would kill me.

oops ilx kill3d my pix
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happiest man in the world
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I'll have to check out that tipi thing. Posh Caravan Hotel w/Minigolf sounds strange.

Mind you, one year I did find the 'five star restaurant tent' which was a bizarre thing.

Wowah. Whats with that red cider!?

> virtually EVERY act getting the crowd to sing along at some point.

web 2.0 - user generated content 8)

hahaha, my thoughts exactly koogs :)

I've never been with the kids, I think it'd be just too big and bewildering for mine. We keep saying we're going to try them off with something smaller and see how they cope but festivals seem to be getting bigger. Any recommendations apart Cambridge Folk Festival or WOMAD (not that I have anything against either of those, just kind of 'been there, done that').

i have heard that "the big chill" is pretty family-friendly - http://www.bigchill.net/

red cider = strawberry grog

Brothers perry really does go straight thru you tho

i have heard that "the big chill" is pretty family-friendly - http://www.bigchill.net/

-- Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:50 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

I have heard this too, it looks kinda big as well though. What kind of numbers do they get there? There's some good stuff on there too.

My best bit: DOWN THE FRONT AT DRAGONETTE.

(Though this has to be factored in with the fact that there were only about twnety people AT Dragonette on Saturday night). A slight mud fall in Lost Vagueness at 5am Sunday and too much rain during Gogol Bordello were the main downsides. But I wish I could sit on the floor again...

Headliner for next year?

http://www.theververeturn.com

One year at Big Day Out (Aussie Glasto) I saw a local well known alterno DJ, a kind of aus Peelie, with his 10 yo son, who had a mohawk. It was so CUTE.

http://www.theververeturn.com

Seconded

Right then, my body has been spending the last day or so making it abundantly clear to me it is very unhappy indeed with the way in which I have treated it over the past few days, particularly the poor diet, the standing around in the rain for hours, the atrocious personal hygeine and the fact that I thought it was a good idea to walk around for hours largely soaked after falling over in the mud on Sunday evening. But I'm feeling a bit better now, and an extra day off to recover, plus a load of clips of the best bits has reminded me that I actually really, really enjoyed it. Anyway, my festival in a nutshell:

Thursday:

Brothers Bar perry = classic if phenomenally popular this year. There were more stewards marshalling the perry queue than the bus queue on Monday morning. Seriously.

London Bootleg Orchestra accompanying Icelanding Check-1-2 band on the Jazz World Stage = noisy.

Banksy sculpture in Stone Circle = can't remember a bludy thing to be honest.

Crashing and burning early = dud.

Friday:

Rain = dud
Acoustic Beer Tent = classic
Hastily purchased dad stool = k-classic
Gogol Bordello = grate, despite rain
Amy Winehouse = ditto
Super Furry Animals = brought sun out hooray
Bloc Party = great, and sensibly heavy on the first album
Simian Mobile Disco = much better live than on record
Friend in Glade Bar giving me free bouze all weekend = as classic as it gets
Arcade Fire = bloody brilliant
Bjork = Absolute star, especially with lasers. And when Mark Bell morphed Hyperballad into Freak by LFO I went mental.
Boshing to the soundtrack to Bugsy Malone in the Lost Vagueness tent at 6am = classic Glasto moment

Saturday:

Early morning medicinal beer = classic
CSS - Okay, but more hampered than most by the rain. Classic Lovefoxx helium baloon action though.
Klaxons plus Other Stage sound system = match made in hell. Rubbish.
Erol in one of the smaller dance tents = fantastic
Editors - ARGH MOST BORING BAND EVER
!!! in the Glade - great but there's no need for that singer to be there
Iggy and the Stooges - FUCKING AWESOME BEST BAND OF THE WEEKEND
Feeling of camaraderie as about 15 of us wandered round the site for hours pointing at things and going "ooh" - classic
Lost Vagueness Tent in full-on Poptimism mode - brilliant
Boshing to Smells Like Teen Spirit - very amusing

Sunday:

Major wobble of the 'what am I doing here?' variety early on = dud
Sitting with my brother and friends watching random shit on the Jazz World Stage while drinking beer = classic
Vitalic in the Dance Tent = OMG AWESOME
Dave Clarke afterwards = ditto
Chemical Brothers = astonishing, best time I've seen them despite playing hardly any of the old classics (attention Blueski, no Private Psychedelic Reel!).
Chemical Brothers light show = wow
Subsequent downpour, bad night's sleep, queing for hours for the bus, and being so ill I couldn't eat for like 30 hours = monstrous dud

Actually, looking back on that, Glastonbury was brilliant. Reassuring to know that all the crap you have to go through is still outweighed by the frankly colossal amount of fun it is possible to have.

i'm still convinced i made the right decision. i don't have the spirit/enthusiasm to have been able to enjoy another muddy one. plus i had the bestest weekend.

waht is boshing?

Do you think the massive popularity of Brothers was due to the fact that people now know about it cos they've drunk it in bars?

It was crazy - by thursday evening the whole jazz field was a graveyard of green bottles. and by friday they weren't selling them by bottles.

i liked brothers much more when it was a bit of a secret.

by thursday they already weren't selling them by bottles, i got there at 10 or so, couldn't see ilxors, tried to buy perry, got some poured down my neck (outside not inside) by someone accidentally. apparntly at one point they got the police to make ppl queue "properly" lol

Brothers is a lot easier to get nowadays so I wouldn't be as fussed about drinking it at Glastonbury - but then i've never been properly pissed at Glasto because of queuing impatience + never being able to carry enough booze on to the site.

(attention Blueski, no Private Psychedelic Reel!).

what did they finish with instead?

i've never been properly pissed at Glasto because of queuing impatience

don't like piss wine

That is a slight drawback.

it's called "vin de peepee"

aka "vin da loo"

Amy Winehouse on Saturday afternoon. Jeezo. I arrived late and was walking across field with a friend. She was singing Love Is A Losing Game as I trudged and I was suddenly in tears. A stunning, stunning, performance, seeing as I wasn't even geared up for it, was miles back with people chatting around me. Loved her version of Poor Little Rich Girl too. It was a very Specials-heavy weekend, all in all.

Saw her again at Jazz World stage later on and sadly it wasn't the same: bad sound, disappointingly identical set and she just seemed drunker and unable to anything but go through the motions. I dunno, earlier at the Pyramid just one of those magic Glastonbury moments, like Arthur Lee in 2003.

Other thoughts:

My pop-up tent was a triumph, especially when packing up in the rain on Monday morning.

I liked the woman singing in the Avalon bar on Thursday night. There's always someone like that.

The Hold Steady was a pretty amazing event. I'm still not sure I'd ever want to listen to them at home, but the atmosphere and audience fervour was something to behold. It was like some kind of indie Nuremberg rally.

I think Artic Monkeys was probably great if you were near the front or watching it on telly, but from where I was standing it wasn't really big enough for a headline Pyramid performance. Wish I'd seen Hot Chip or Bjork and her intriguing reactable. All the headliners I most wanted to see were on Friday, bah.

"It's nice to be at Glastonbury. Everyone's going on about global warming and that. But I reckon the biggest problem facing the world today is the mainstream attitude of most indie bands" - The Cribs' lead singer.

Iggy & The Stooges surprisingly amazing. Never been that bothered but what a show. Funny as fuck when he encouraged a stage invasion and then couldn't get rid of everyone afterwards.

Vitalic excellent but wish I'd met up with smashed up Matt DC for crazy dancing. Was there on my own in my only dance village excursion of the weekend.

Green Fields lovely as ever. I heart hippies.

"The other day I was walking down the street and the sun was shining, everything was beautiful, everything seemed right with the world, and I wondered why anyone ever felt the need to take drugs. Then I remembered I was on drugs." - Simon Munnery

Pete & Carsmile up on stage doing Singstar Busted (was in Busted? Was kind of wasted at that point) in the world's biggest pub was good, but they were robbed of a full performance. Pete looked angry.

Shame about the mud. But I kept dry, mostly.

The Who were dreadful. Pete Townshend still going on about having invented the internet.

Took 5 and half hours to get out of the site, but girls gave us chocolate buttons and everyone was pushing each other's cars and it was nice. Took another 5 and three quarter hours to get to London cause we foolishly chose the A303-M3 option and a coach of Australians had crashed. Not badly.

I love Glastonbury.

Oh, and I really got quite gooey about the children at Glastonbury. Considering the somewhat appalling conditions they were having to deal with, they seemed to be coping with it all so well. It's as if they know when everyone's having to deal with something and that it's not the time to act up.

I nearly cried when I saw a mum carrying one toddler and walking with an five-year-old across the Circus field at its stickiest, though. The little girl's welly came off in the mud and she'd stepped too far foward to get back into it. I trudged across to put it back in and then the she couldn't lift her other leg out, it had got so stuck by then. So I pulled that one out and the mum, who seemed almost too shell-shocked to speak, thanked me and then said to her daughter "I don't think we can do this".

And then there were the proper, artful-dodger type festival kids. Two of whom, no older than nine, suddenly appeared in some Lost Vagueness tent we were dancing in at 2am on Monday morning and started juggling with fire. I think they got told to go outside and do it.

Oh, I forgot to mention Dame Shirley Bassey coming on (and up) to Get the Party Started. And the rest.

Loved her version of Poor Little Rich Girl

Hey Little Rich Girl, I meant. It's been a long weekend.

i loved the kids in little trolley things.

nice recollections Alba, although all this talk of kids is odd. i think i've only ever seen about ten there in total.

was it really noticeable just how much busier it was? friends elsewhere say yes altho they've been pretty down on the experience generally when reporting back (and it wasn't their first one). it seems if you're able to come away having really enjoyed it and been ultimately glad you went in spite of all the badness that's half down to your 'right' attitude and half down to the nature of the festival itself, even now.

There were loads of kids! Maybe I hang out in the right areas (though I never actually went in the Kidz field itself, officer).

I did think there were a few too many people there, mainly in terms of the pressure of the camping areas - was all packed in fields by noon on Thursday where it had always been fine before. You could blame that on the gazebos, though.

it seems if you're able to come away having really enjoyed it and been ultimately glad you went in spite of all the badness that's half down to your 'right' attitude and half down to the nature of the festival itself, even now.

Yeah, like everything, innit.

i'm just musing on whether a sodden Glasto is the ultimate test of (British?) character in that respect.

I think so. It does take me a day or so to adjust but adjusting norms of comfort and everything else is part of what makes a festival special for me.

Just watching some of the many hours I recorded on my Humax now. I do have a strange nostalgia for the old days of the C4 coverage, in the years before I ever went. The titles had some kind of a windmill thing and a 70s song going "lay-dai-dai-da-da". What was that song?

I wonder if I still have my old VHS recorded C4 coverage of '95 ft. Lamarr, Radcliffe and Marijine Salad as hosts.

That'll be "Deborah" by Tyrannosaurus Rex.

Yes, I do have that vhs, but the TV reception was sooo bad. An acoustic "Delicious" by Sleeper was a highlight (really)

Thank you, Mark!

95 = last time I went.... I think. I have really vague memories of one in the late 90s, although that may have been a reading....

95 when only music magazines talked about the event. were the BBC even covering it live on radio at that point?

sounds good this year. do wish id gone in a way, though if theres one thing im not good with its mud. part of me thinks i should go when its muddy and just basically get muddy right at the beginning and then think fuck it, instead of trying to avoid it the whole time

honestly if you have wellies and you're reasonably fit the mud is so not an issue. you don't even get that mucky unless you fall over or someone kicks mud all over you. having said that i have WELLY RASH around the sides of my legs oh noes.

I got properly stuck in the really sticky mud outside the Lost Vagueness chapel in the early hours of Saturday morning. Two people had to actually pull me free.

The only time it's really hard to avoid getting muddy is when you get back to your tent and it's raining hard and you have to somehow get your wellies and waterproofs off before you get inside. A porch helps. The one downside of my pop-up was the lack of porch, but it was big enough to set aside wet and dirty areas in the corner, with newspaper laid down and stuff.

Yes, I'm with Alba on the upside. The thorough miserableness that permeated my being at 11:45am Monday is now fading in my memory to be replaced by rose coloured / mud-splattered spectacles about the whole thing. I really am a sucker!

My Lost Vagueness Muddy Bear Paws now seem like a highlight!

Oh, and I really got quite gooey about the children at Glastonbury. Considering the somewhat appalling conditions they were having to deal with, they seemed to be coping with it all so well.

But children love playing in dirt! It's the parents I wonder about sometimes.

95 when only music magazines talked about the event. were the BBC even covering it live on radio at that point?

-- blueski, Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:56 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Link

it was on channel 4 from 1994 -- not like all evening or anything but i rememebr it well.

definitely, before that even, i'm sure i was like 13/14 watching it on tv and wondering how you got to be one of the people hanging out at the side of the stage who weren't in the band or doing sound or anything and wanting to be one of them. finally that dream came true in 05 :)

there were far more kids than i've ever seen before.

quick overview of my weekend:

http://carsmilesteve.livejournal.com/53754.html

Grr get thee and yr 3 wheel buggies to the Big Chill!

yrs
a.n hatz0r
(who wasn't even there this year!)
(so thre!)

CarsmileSteves manifesto to improve Glastonbury. A supporters trust!
http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2007/06/lets-make-glastonbury-better/

I think he's got something there.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1096/651895877_0e63d65802_o.jpg

BEST. POST. EVER.

Michael Eavis wants younger fans at Glasto 2008
http://www.nme.com/news/glastonbury/29650

wtf sounded like there was a massive increase in no. of kids there this year

i wish Eavis had said 'more younglings'

Didn't notice any more kids than usual, to be fair.

i'm just going by anecdotes. interesting tho as Eavis' gripe lines up with the whole 'people growing up quicker but staying younger longer at the same time'. increasing festival capacity only to result in more people over 30 going doesn't sound ideal tho. maybe he should just go the whole hog and allocate a big portion of the tickets only to under 21s next year.

:"Most of this year's tickets were sold online.

"They're likely to be older people, with the money for the fast connections,

It doesn't work like that, Eavis! Though perhaps teenagers are less likely to get up in time on a Sunday morning.

...with the money for the HUNDRED AND FIFTY QUID TICKET more like.

why doesn't he set aside FIFTY per cent and flog them only at shops where u have to go and queue up outside and bring proof that you're younger than 25.

Imagine then being under 25, with all that pressure to go there and be impolite and unrespectable to keep Eavis happy.