Question to ilx's Don Juans - What is the one and only secret to the heart (and the bed) of a girl?

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sometimes i think i know the answer but the truth can be elusive.

― morbidol (emekars), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

1. dead hookers

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

Roofies

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

3. Just keep trying. If she likes you AT ALL, eventually you can wear her down.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

I HAVE NOT HAD SEX THREAD REIGN OF LAFFS DAY SEVEN

― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha omg "ilx's Don Juans"??!

― Allyzay doesnt get into the monkeys or vindications (allyzay), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

3. Just keep trying. If she likes you AT ALL, eventually you can wear her down.

"... and after several hours, my clitoris was completely gone!"

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

is there such a thing as ilx's don juans?!

― barabara (emekars), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

Don Perry and Ju4n D4rnielle.

― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

DJP, I salute you.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

4. fancy adidas

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

Pizza Hut Personal Pan Pizzas delivered to her door by a circus clown

― ath (ath), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

"Just keep trying. If she likes you AT ALL, eventually you can wear her down."

or she will hate you

― main maner (emekars), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

Find a girl with low self esteem and insult her. It's not that hard tbh.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

i consider myself an ILX don juan

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

She may not thank you for it, but eventually she'll have a weak moment and then you're in there.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Damn, Laurel.

― Allyzay doesnt get into the monkeys or vindications (allyzay), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

I guess that's not so much to "the heart", eh? Never mind.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahaha Laurel!

"No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Yes. OH SHIT, WAIT...! Dammit."

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

i wonder if thats the guy who had never had sex

― emekars (emekars), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

emekars

― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 22 January 2007 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

lol at the phrase "wear her down", like it's a seige, a seige of booty.

― blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

the secret is to make your fuck-want known

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

laurel be giving up all our secrets.

― Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

lol at the phrase "wear her down", like it's a seige, a seige of booty.

It takes a more intimate meaning if she's a duck.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

Captain, the defenses are starting to give!

Launch phase 3...Operation: Be The Guy Who Is There When He Lets Her Down Again (For The Last Time)!!

― blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a Donna Juan, does that count?

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

So what's your one and only secret to the heart and bed of a girl?

― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

REGGAE

― chaki (chaki), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

Secrets of Bromance

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/120/366315404_421a393bea.jpg

play her some PO...PO...POPPAGE!

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

always stay cool

― manomena (emekars), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

how old did you say you were? 40?

― cutty (mcutt), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

Sabotage current relationship.

to wit:
You deserved every damn thing you got and you know it. To you this may just be a game, but to some of us this is a very real thing. I haven't spent 75 days of my life playing this game so I can !*!#ing LOSE BATTLEGROUND GAMES because you think it's CUTE to screw around. If any one person caused this breakup, it was you.
I was completely justified in letting your girlfriend know you were flirting with Menah. You think I ruined your life? Well as my idol Obi-Wan Kenobi put it in Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith, "You have done that yourself." I can't stand !!@@*#%s like you who think you can run around seducing all of the fair skinned Night Elven maidens after you get home from kissing your Mormon girlfriend on the park bench. Somebody has to stand up for the little woman. Unluckily for you, that someone turned out to be me.

I bet you didn't expect me to find out your girlfriend's email address, did you? Yeah, too bad I did, with a little help from my good friend Google. (Look it up sometime, you'd be suprised.) I bet you also didn't expect me to make an RAR of all the screenshots I took of your flirting either. (All in PNG format, of course.) Heh. You didn't even expect me to put a password on the file, did you? Yeah. I called your girlfriend to relay it to her. I covered all my bases. Looks like you just got shutout. Hopefully your former girlfriend will be able to sleep soundly at night now. I know I will. Especially now that I know there's still justice left in this world. Justice by the name of Daisies.

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

That's not cool.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

If I've answered this question once I've answered it a thousand times! Put her hands on your ass!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

Pop! Razorbill/Penguin, publication date 10/06

Is there any way to un-do it? Marit has made up her mind. Being a virgin is getting in the way of holding on to a boyfriend she really likes. So who better to lose it with than her best guy-friend, Jamie? They’ve been buds forever. It’ll be completely pressure-free. But Marit soon learns that doing it changes everything. Now she’s stuck without a boyfriend and in danger of losing her friends.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

Tracer knows what do.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

capture one:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/130/366328053_dc72b0bdf0.jpg?v=0

― Ed (dali), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

milo, wtf is that? Is that from your inbox?

― Charlie Brown (kenan), Monday, 22 January 2007 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

What that is is quiet brilliance.

― Hoosteen (Hoosteen), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

The freckles/polkadot duality nicely centered by the pantain

― Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

er plaintain, green banana, wahtever

― Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

WoW level 60

― badg (badg), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

THE SECRET: be like phenomenally good-looking and well-dressed and charming. And smart and funny. And kind.

― max (maxreax), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

be able to envision the possibility without any great effort involved and without regarding it as an especially big deal

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

Ouch, that's a little cold-blooded.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

it can be. or it can be simply relaxed.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

HI DERE "EMEKARS", YOU ARE A TROLL.

― John Justen says Toonces was one of the most talented cats on televison (johnjus, Monday, 22 January 2007 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

it's from the Noize Bros

― milo z (mlp), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

Booze! And Puppies! Combine them both into a sexy cocktail: tequila pup-rise perhaps?

― Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:56 (nineteen years ago)

There isn't one secret. You have to seduce each woman individually.

― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 22 January 2007 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

Sing outside her window.

― Zwan (miccio), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

Send her a myspace message after every night you run into her at bar, telling her how good it was to see her.

― Jena (JenaP), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

Let her know you're interested in her, ask who it was every time someone calls or sends her a text.

― Jena (JenaP), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

we had a formal dinner with a girls' drinking society. AGAIN, i got on fabulously without any romantic success. this is turning into a theme. of the following: phenomenally good-looking and well-dressed and charming. And smart and funny. And kind. i don't really fall down at any hurdle, except that i never really know when to pick my moment.

i'm not asking for advice, though. tonight wasn't right; nobody from either party pulled and i have work to do, so i had to leave at just gone midnight. next time...

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

sometimes i think i know the answer but the truth can be elusive.
-- morbidol (braincutte...), January 22nd, 2007 8:49 AM. (emekars)

is there such a thing as ilx's don juans?!
-- barabara (fg...), January 22nd, 2007 8:54 AM. (emekars)

"Just keep trying. If she likes you AT ALL, eventually you can wear her down."
or she will hate you
-- main maner (forever...), January 22nd, 2007 8:55 AM. (emekars)

i wonder if thats the guy who had never had sex
-- emekars (francobomban...), January 22nd, 2007 8:58 AM. (emekars)

always stay cool
-- manomena (bimbardo...), January 22nd, 2007 9:28 AM. (emekars)

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

― geoff (gcannon), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

M. White otmfm.

― Charlie Brown (kenan), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

As M. White said (or rather implied), you need to pay close attention. In fact, paying close attention might come closest to being that one secret you are seeking. Make it your study to please.

― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

Persistence.

― def zep (calstars), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

But louis, did you get any phone numbers or ask anyone out for a drink?

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 06:17 (nineteen years ago)

ive been away for a while, did louis get laid while ilx was down?

― Fetchboy (Felcher), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 07:04 (nineteen years ago)

juan is the loneliest number ;_;

― estela (estela), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 07:08 (nineteen years ago)

Man I love Estela

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

we were already out for a drink, and they have promised to 'facebook' me. the telephone is rapidly becoming a thing of the past!

i will be laid by March, that is a (near-)promise.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

Sit on her bed with her, and a friend of hers, together. In electric dreams.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

they have promised to 'facebook' me. the telephone is rapidly becoming a thing of the past!

This is not actually true, if you want to hook up w.someone.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I was using a bit of license. If I was genuinely interested (as I have been), I would (and have) obtain(ed) phone numbers and arrange(d) things thusly. However, obtaining contact details has become significantly easier since the advent of the Internet, surely.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

But the internet becomes another step between the two of you talking, doesn't it? So possibly "easier" but probably not "better."

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

is alright, if you are actually talking. problem is if its just sort of adding to some social-networky thing, but then never actually communicate

― Storefront Church (688), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

put it this way, if i was pursuing someone i'd either hook up with them on first meeting or i'd get their phone number and arrange something pronto without involving the internet. what the internet does however is keep a database of existing contacts so that one's social context can be improved upon every subsequent sortie into Real Life.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

try not to use the word 'sortie'

― Storefront Church (688), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

i don't. my ilx vocabulary is deliberately arch, IRL i like to think personality speaks for itself!

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

try not to use the word 'sortie' here

― Storefront Church (688), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

what the internet does however is keep a database of existing contacts so that one's social context can be improved upon every subsequent sortie into Real Life.

How does that work? I honestly don't understand what you're saying.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

Well, if you're aware of the existence of certain people you may not have seen in a while, and you know a fair few details about them, a) re-aquaintance will be so much easier, and b) they can enable you to meet others, and meeting new people is obv. a good thing.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

But then so does knowledge of their phone number or possession of one of their homing pigeons.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

obtaining contact details has become significantly easier since the advent of the Internet, surely.
-- to scour or to pop? (papiermachealamphibia...), January 23rd, 2007.

a sure way to any girl's heart, is harvesting their contact details from the Internet.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

you could see if anyone is selling the jaymc.xls on ebay

― Storefront Church (688), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

A phone number doesn't supply a photo, a list of mutual friends, a list of interests/hobbies or an unlimited potential for communication (i.e. credit runs out on phones but not on the university interweb). social networking databases, however, do.

a homing pigeon would be unspeakably suave, however, and may well be the answer.

and enrique, you don't HARVEST contact details, you meet people, find out about them, and then RENEW this knowledge. you don't have to be a stalker.

although it helps. ;-)

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

my ilx vocabulary is deliberately arch

For the love of god why

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

You know, most police stations in New York don't even have internet connections. The work they do is so much to do with physicality, bodies, and timing, that sending emails about stuff would just be pointless. I think you could take a page from the NYPD's book.

xpost it sounds like you've got it all figured out though!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: In the void of any other distinguishing characteristics, I've gotta make some sort of stylographic impression! Plus, I kinda like the way words sound, the more Grand Guignol the better.

renounce the internet for a better social life, Tracer?

the thing is, you're probably right.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

how does this work vice versa? i got no game

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

'Hey, where the bars at?'

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

To quote a famous piece of advice from the mists of time.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

You have to seduce each woman individually.

As opposed to going for a group mindfuck?

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

as opposed to casting out a large net and seeing what comes back.

― Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

As opposed to "How Do I Installed Seduction XP??????"

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

[snoop.jpg]

Louis - some tips:

1. From observation: Stop smiling. You have a very strained smile, people on the other side of the pub were going "why is that guy over there so anxious?"

2. Stick to non-creepy jokes. "although it helps. ;-)" and the like are right out. Playing with your real and percieved standings on the crepometer may may you friends on ILX (...at some point) but it Will. Not. Get. You. Laid.

3. i don't. my ilx vocabulary is deliberately arch, IRL i like to think personality speaks for itself! This isn't true. Make it true.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

4. Consider the source of the advice.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

top corner, 30 yards out, that one!

― Storefront Church (688), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

"a girls' drinking society"

GAH why did I fuck up Uni so bad :'(

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

heh. bit too honest that :/

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

I'd refer our friend to ILX's very own illustrated "how-to" guide on the matter

http://files.dmusic.com/music/h/a/halfdeaf/soooooo.jpg

― is anyone anticipating the new Baaderonixx? (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

crepometer - (n) instrument used in Brittany, NW France, to test the authenticity and tastiness of crepes in pattiseries and restaurants. Very high readings over several years may lead to the award of the prestigious marque-du-crepe.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

try not to use the word 'sortie' here

Yeah. Use 'foray'.

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

'popover'

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

'Huzzah, young filly, it is time for Custer's last stand'

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Surely it should be 'first' stand, no, Ed?

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

'only'

― do i have to draw you a diaphragm (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

How about 'Huzzah, young filly, now for the charge of the Light Brigade' then.

'Huzzah, young filly, be prepared to defend the Khyber pass from Dost Mohammed'

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

You talk like that anyway, Ed!

Kate OTM :)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

I have never brought up the first afghan war whilst courting a lady, well maybe not in bed, possibly at the dinner table, there is a time and a place for everything.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

i have work to do, so i had to leave at just gone midnight. next time...

This is the issue. STOP LEAVING AT MIDNIGHT. All the good stuff happens between 1.00am and 2.00am. You're how old? 20? Surely you can work through a hangover?

xpost Ed - you are making me feel sick.

― Anna (Anna), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

For heaven's sake, this is creepy and I'm married to an ILXor so it's not like my standards against the internet are exactly high.

― Allyzay doesnt get into the monkeys or vindications (allyzay), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

GRAHAM PT II

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

It is of course well known that I keep the mess dress and campaign maps for the third date.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Anna, OTM.

Ed, I would have thought the Opium Wars are the best way into a woman's boudoir

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

I knew there was a reason I hung out with public schoolboys.

― The Whistling Bus (kate), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Wait outside her house. When she leaves, call her on her cell and ask her where she's going. Is she GOING TO SEE A MAN?!?!?!

― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

I find the skirmishes of the Great Game to be a much better metaphor. Britannia facing off against the Tsar, a dance of skirmishes and proxy wars, spying missions all fizzling out when Mother Russia looses interest and goes off with Uncle Sam.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

The future of mankind is doomed because the internet hs encouraged all young men to become creepy.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

So that was the secret subplot of The Children of Men!

― The Whistling Bus (kate), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Children of Facebook

(xpost: DAMMIT)

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, lady, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL.
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/06/05/ronaldreagan/photos/WALL.jpg

― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, this is so not creepy. I do this all the time and it ain't even about romantic interest - you meet a new person, chances are they are on myspace (well, hi5 here, those crazy portuguese!), so you check out their profile to find out who they know, what their interests are, etc. Thus, next time you meet the ice is broken a lot more easily, and you can get started right away on talking about common interests that you have (or not, as it were.) I do it, and plenty of people have done it with me as well, I assume that's sort of what a public profile is *for*.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

'Let me nail my 95 theses to your door and let's start a reformation'

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.nebraskapress.unl.edu/PressBookJackets/0-8032-7059-3.jpg

Never fails to get me laid.

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/content/images/2005/09/07/siouxsie_sioux203_203x152.jpg

Never fails to get me laid.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

I now imagine Dan doing a little dance to "Peek-a-Boo"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Wait. Siouxie's your wing'man'?

x-post

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

It is completely, completely creepy. You should have a conversation or do things together to find common interests, not internet-stalk one another. This shouldn't really be too difficult to figure out.

Also, Dan that's a bit terrifying.

― Allyzay doesnt get into the monkeys or vindications (allyzay), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

-- Daniel_Rf (filosofiaebolacha...) (webmail), January 23rd, 2007 3:42 PM. (Daniel_Rf) (link)

it kind of *sounds* creepy.

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.wider-than-pictures.com/pictures/siouxsie_sioux.jpg

plenty of people have done it with me as well

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

But oh ~~your city~~ all this white girls lies in dust, my friend

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

You people are all clearly OLD

xpost I knew Dan wouldn't be able to leave that one alone

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

xxpost Why would it be creepy? It's far easier to strike up a conversation if you know you have common interests. In the past you would all know eachother anyway so you didn't need to check out someone's profile because you already knew what s/he was into. *shrug*

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

I've been doing the MySpace check-up with recently met people! Tho true, it's usually with them in the room, ie "who do we know in common?" It actually worked out with the roommate I met on craigslist, who it turns out was classmates with one of my old friends and we had a good series of in-jokes.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

how old are you, ally? i think it's different for current college students. everyone has a facebook profile tuned very specifically to demonstrate the kind of person you are/wish you were. it's not "internet stalking," the profiles are public (or made public when you friend someone)--and it's not like you don't have a conversation about mutual interests once you've seen their profile (in fact, sometimes you'll find out mutual interests you wouldn't have known about).

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

[x-post]

It's not something I do, being the wrong side of 30 for all that, but surely the point of something like MySpace is to allow people to find out about things about you which you'd like other people to find out. It's the whole point isn't it? You don't HAVE to put that information up there.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Why not strike up a conversation to find out about the common interests? Conversations are fun.

Perhaps I am old too.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images/coyote_acme.png

― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

So apparently you're old, Jeff.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, exactly. Universities are big places, you can run around forever without meeting someone who's on yr wavelenght. I've had two people message me on Hi5 with little or no previous social interaction, they're both good friends now. We, like, go out and have coffee and study together, just like we would if we had met and gotten to know each other exclusively through real life interaction. It's no big deal!

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

yeah but asking for someone's phone number vs. searching for them on myspace and messaging them is all about permission. you ask for the number and you know where you stand in relation to this person and vice versa. if you just cyber-stalk them then what's to be made of that except, yay, another fake friend!

cutty is indeed our don juan and he knows how to do it. just get fucked up and make out in bathrooms and take em home. there's nothing magical about it, people.

― Jams Murphy (ystrickler), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

I think that completely cirumvents one of the awesomest things about meeting new people, namely spending time figuring them out and how you intersect with them. Laying everything out there like a laundry list with the expectation that others are going to cross-reference your credentials against their inner checklist sort of makes it seem like people who rely on this method of interaction aren't actually interested in the process of meeting other people. Which, to me, is kind of creepy.

It's one thing to use those profiles as vanity plates/teasers to your personality but it's something else to be all "this is my whole life, please love me" about it; it's super-clinical and desperate to me.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

I just left college about 2 years ago, we had facebook then too. I found it really, really kind of creepy when dudes heavy-relied on this kind of shit and used it as pick up tools. And still do. GET OUT AND TALK TO A PERSON. That's how everyone's always done it. It's one thing to send notes or say hi to people on them, it's another thing to rely on these "social networks" instead of just getting to know people.

I think, Daniel, you are maybe misunderstanding why it is creepy specifically coming from Louis who has made a lot of comments along these wavelengths over and over and over again?

― Allyzay doesnt get into the monkeys or vindications (allyzay), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know why everyone thinks that college kids don't have conversations because of Facebook!

ME: Hey, how are you?
GIRL: I'm fine.
ME: What's your favorite movie?
GIRL: Why don't I just Facebook you so we can bypass all this "talking" nonsense?
ME: Sounds good.

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, what Jams Murphy said basically re: the difference between the two especially WRT the situation I personally was replying to!!

XPOST WE DON'T THINK THAT, YOU FUCKING IDIOT, WE THINK LOUIS CYBERSTALKING WOMEN ON MYSPACE IS CREEPY

― Allyzay doesnt get into the monkeys or vindications (allyzay), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

OTFM

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

And yeah, Dan OTM too--I've met a lot of people through the internet, but not by narrowing them down based on what interests we share, it's not very fun that way to me (which is why I found it pretty creepy when dudes would start msging me after maybe meeting me once to point out that they, too, like X band and therefore we need to hang out...)

― Allyzay doesnt get into the monkeys or vindications (allyzay), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

All of us from a.m.a. only met because our text-only sig files contained detailed explanations about our entire life story. So helpful!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

everytime someone someone says 'laid' on ilx, satan rapes your departed grandmother

― geoff (gcannon), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Liek SRSLY Facebook ACCOMPANIES/COMPLEMENETS conversation/getting to know you/hooking up; it doesn't REPLACE it. I mean maybe I've just never been cyber-stalked--and I'm sure there are d00dz who are totally creepy about "poking" (LOUIS NO POKING)--but I'd say the vast majority of people use Facebook to HELP THEM learn more stuff about their friends and interests that they can then talk about--that or as some kind of scrapbook for inside jokes, or as an elaborate prank, or even just as a way to keep contact information in a safe place.

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

If I've answered this question once I've answered it a thousand times! Put her hands on your ass!

Cannot be done on myspace.

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

I think that completely cirumvents one of the awesomest things about meeting new people, namely spending time figuring them out and how you intersect with them.

But this is assuming people's interests is all there is to them! Checking up a profile is the *start* of getting to know a person, not the entirety of the thing! Like, again giving the examples of the ppl who messaged me, I decided to chat them up in real life because I knew that person x is into comic books and Sarah Silvermann, person y is into Rockabilly and Orson Welles. I did not know that person x also has a wicked sense of humor or that person y is enormously sweet and caring and has the weirdest family ever - because those are the kinds of things you don't get from a profile. And yeah, of course if I'd met them in real life first and we'd become friends and one day we'd have both found "omg you like comic books/rockabilly too??" that would've been awesome as well, but why should that be the ONLY way?

ok lots of xposts

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus Christ just ASK people rather than relying on a web profile they filled half-arsedly twelve months ago to do it for you. What is wrong with you people?

God help us if there's a war.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

i could've so done with facebook et al ten years ago, gotta confess. maybe it's for the best...

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

but I'd say the vast majority of people use Facebook to HELP THEM learn more stuff about their friends and interests that they can then talk about

Which is the really creepy thing here: reading on a computer screen about your friends vs. TALKING WITH FRIENDS ABOUT YOUR VARIOUS INTERESTS.

― Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Srsly, I'd say maye 5-10% of Facebook users actually lay their shit out "like a laundry list"--and even if they did I don't see why it's all that different to be talking and discover a shared interest rather than knowing about the shared interest so you can start talking about it even sooner. I don't think anybody really believes that Facebook can take the place of conversation, nor do I really think that anyone out there is under the impression that Facebook profiles are the mirror to one's soul.

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

dan not otm, i mean ally is otm re: L Jagger specifically (man i feel bad even typing the dude's name, he will never live his googleability down) but in general on facebook its a lot of boring random bullshit that people put up as an excuse for photo albums. Its not taking the place of 'actually talking' for most normal well-adjusted people, and just like IRL if some dude is being crepey on facebook it will come across pretty quickly

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

I think, Daniel, you are maybe misunderstanding why it is creepy specifically coming from Louis who has made a lot of comments along these wavelengths over and over and over again?

Everything Louis says ever will be seen as creepy on ILX. Not that he hasn't dug this grave himself, but ya know.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

ME: Hey, how are you?
GIRL: I'm fine.
ME: What's your favorite movie?

i believe the correct response is a nod to the gories with "i know you fine but how you doin'?"

― chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

xp: But WHY IS THAT CREEPY??? I spend five minutes looking at a friend's profile and see that he/she likes a book that I like. Next time I see that person, I mention it (BTW this actually like never happens). THEN WE TALK ABOUT THE BOOK THAT WE BOTH LIKE.

NOBODY IS SITTING THEIR WITH 600 FRIENDS ON FACEBOOK SAYING "NOW I NEVER HAVE TO SPEAK TO ANOTHER HUMAN BEING AGAIN!!! HA HA HA HA HA AH AH AH AH AH AH HAHAHAHA!"

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

deej otm

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

haha stevem just for you i will set up a profile which will say what i like.

xpost

WEIRD!

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Facebook, like a sense of humour, will only get you so far. Also, as people have said, I'm guessing it's possible to creep people quite spectacularly out on Facebook, although perhaps not as easily as us fogies think.

― caek (caek), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

I think Daniel and max are kind of OTM if you take only what they're saying and don't read several other agendas into it. Besides, HOW CAN WE COMPLAIN: we all know each other from the interwebs. I have never seen Facebook, FWIW.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://membres.lycos.fr/maryline21jumpstreet/hpbimg/01-Don%20Juan%20DeMarco-By%20Maryline.jpg

― Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Almost all of my significant relationships (friendships included) are rooted in specific, temporal, spontaneous experiences. Things happened to us and we bonded and learned about each other based on our actions and reactions. I have some cyber-buddies, I guess, but the idea of creating a virtual profile of my mark, to improve my marketing strategy feels a little soulless.

― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

I have never seen Facebook, FWIW.
-- Laurel (sininspac...), January 23rd, 2007.

BIT LIKE THIS:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/sevenxviii/Irespectyouasaperson.jpg

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Britishes, remember that old One2One advert with that student guy who sees a girl he likes. He then gets his friends to follow her around and call him to tell him what she's up to (lol at guy in wheelchair telling him "she's just checked out a load of philosophy books" and then smiling inanely as if really proud of his observation) so he can be seen by her doing similar things. not before too long it pays off and she kisses him under the mistletoe at an xmas do.

JUST LIKE IN REAL LIFE

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

dudes, facebook does not take the place of real life experiences any more than the telephone did.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

I'm 25, and I teach undergrads. The extent to which their social lives revolve around facebook (even the non-creepy, non-males) never ceases to amaze me.

― caek (caek), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

I would never have been interested in my wife if my introduction to the kind of person she is comprised a list of her favorite bands, which at the time was Cafe del Mar, Nick Cave, and Goldfrapp. I would have been life "pffft."

CHICAGO KEVIN ON THE MONEY

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

ALSO i think you guys are forgetting that the vast majority of college kids are so boring as to have more or less the same exact profile, to wit:

FAVORITE MUSIC: Ben Harper, the Beatles, Jack Johnson, everything except country and rap!!!
FAVORITE BOOKS: The Da Vinci Code, Harry Potter
FAVORITE MOVIES: Old School
FAVORITE TV: Lost, Family Guy
QUOTES: "I'M DRUNNNNKKKK!!!!" - Me!

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

no, when you telephone someone and talk, they know about it!
xp

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I'd set up that website 7 years ago which was blatantly focussed on helping students from same or nearby colleges hook up based on interests, photos etc. i like to think the 'my stalker hell' / 'reader i married him' ratio would've ended up evenly balanced.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

i mean maybe if you've ever discovered yr grandmother's box of letters from your grandfather during the Great War or whatever you think "why don't I have these real life experiences! The telephone has ruined my legacy" well yeah i forget where i was going with this.

(even the non-creepy, non-males)

generally girls seem to spend way more time dealing w/ their facebook profiles
/sexist anecdotal account

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

AND--very few people I know MEET on Facebook. Mostly they meet IRL and then a week later or so become Facebook friends.

deej ha ha T/S: your great-grandmother's civil war love letters vs. louis jagger's facebook love wall posts

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

you guys remember lipstickandcigarettes and shit?? makeoutclub? what a wierd wild west that was.

anyway, young LJ is doomed i'm afraid. so not gonna happen.

― geoff (gcannon), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Whoever mentioned permission is OTM. Myspace (et al) stalking loses it's creepy menace once you've formed enough of a Physical World bond with someone that permission can be implied.

― blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

I think the most interesting thing about facebook is going to be when all these people start running for political office and a brief search of the facebook archives reveals they were the dude with the joint in their hand sitting next to the keg at the skull n bones frat party

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

That'll be seen as a plus.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Louis, have you ever thought of becoming president? I don't think you'd really compare too badly w/ most of the republican nominees. I mean John McCain cheated on his wife.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

the key point of facebook is finding out whether someone is single so you don't make an awkward mistake! (although many people foil this by not putting their status or being married to themselves or whatever.) common interests can be left for actual conversation.

― Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

my poli-sci major friends go through and de-tag any potentially incriminating photos

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, this is sort of a valid point, but it's not like you can't have a first convo go wrong or center on the wrong things irl either. Actually another thing myspace/hi5/facebook helps with is knowing which ppl I just shouldn't talk music with.

xposts the "permission" is there as soon as you're vain enough to have a profile! This is why you can set those to private, too, if you want.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

being married to themselves

??? Is this a euphemism for being a wanker?

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Mostly they meet IRL and then a week later or so become Facebook friends.

aka "Don't call me, I'll call you."

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

x-post -- "I Married Myself"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Actually another thing myspace/hi5/facebook helps with is knowing which ppl I just shouldn't talk music with.

QFT

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, i think the facebook thing can be pretty stupid, but max'...

ALSO i think you guys are forgetting that the vast majority of college kids are so boring as to have more or less the same exact profile, to wit:

makes a good point - you can often make good guesses about who's interesting irl - but some people don't want to waste time/bore themselves talking to just anyone. not that the reverse can't be true as well - someone who seems interesting virtually can be otherwise irl.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Which is the really creepy thing here: reading on a computer screen about your friends vs. TALKING WITH FRIENDS ABOUT YOUR VARIOUS INTERESTS.

Both of these paths are talking with your friends about your various interests!

My list of favorite whatever isn't an end to what I like, it's a beginning. And if I didn't care, I wouldn't list it, a hypothetical My Favourite Operas would be empty, because I don't really care.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://www.clickwinegroup.com/cwg/pos/kangarilla/labels/KR_SV03.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

i should point out that my profile is empty except for a list of my favorite sandwiches

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

andrew is otm--maybe we should think of profiles as conversation, not in opposition to it.

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

IM IN UR PROFILE LEARNING ABOUT SAMMICHES

http://www.pageaday.com/images/pad/funstuff/cats-09links/compu-cat.jpg

― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

the "creatively not answering profile questions" gambit, always so intruiging yes yes

― geoff (gcannon), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

Which is the really creepy thing here: reading on a computer screen about your friends vs. TALKING WITH FRIENDS ABOUT YOUR VARIOUS INTERESTS.

Both of these paths are talking with your friends about your various interests!

Except the part where you READ ABOUT your friend's interests. That's not really TALKING. That's called READING.

― Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

oh shit my profile = not as original or funny as i intended, probably i will never get poked

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Also:

We meet, we get on we, talk, phone numbers, date, Dost Mohammed

is better than

we meet, awkwardly talk, exchange facebook profiles, drift away

I think

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, can any of the Facebookers here really deny that "social networking sites" - if used the way max mentions, i.e. you meet someone in the flesh and theyou get to know each other through this website - provide an extra layer of stalling to the process, so that one never has to say "look, I'm not interested"? You can just say "look me up on Facebook" and then when this person you're not interested in keeps chirping up to you, you reply to maybe 50% of their emails and string them along forever, saving them up for a really desperate rainy day. I think it just encourages shitty behavior from the chased, and encourages non-confrontationalist chasers to take the art of passive-aggressiveness to new heights. In other words, Ed OTM.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

we get on we

We do, do we?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Also, while I agree with Ed, that's not a binary opposition, it's two possibilities out of many.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

No. you and Ed are being silly. Do you control the hammer or does hammer control you?

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Oui oui.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

This thread is reinforcing my latent technophobic tendencies.

― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

arent these things meant to be, that when you meet someone, add them to your profile thingy, then talk to them, and ask them out sometime, by either phone, txt, email, in messenger, or whatever, that it doesnt really matter what format is used.

some people seem to use the mail facilities in these things just like normal emails also, right?

― Storefront Church (688), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

i mean if facebook turns you into a wishy washy passive aggressive dude then by all means i recommend not using it.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

it would be funny if everyone who has hooked up or more via ILX just said that was the only reason they came here in the first place.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

((hahaha omg "ilx's Don Juans"??!
well, mm, never heard of this donjuans either. or girls. or beds.))

― tiit (tiit), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

deej it's 2007. The hammer controls you, keep up!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

SIT TOGETHER ON A BED AND LOOK AT PICTURES

― attack all monsters (skowly), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

"HEY WANNA GET SOME ICE CREAM WITH ME? I"M BUYING!"

― attack all monsters (skowly), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

^ Most OTM thing said on this thread

xpost

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Gareth's post just now, I'd say.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

"OH HEY, WHILE YOU'RE HERE, I'MA JUST GONNA PLAY A LITTLE SOMETHING ON MY ACOUSTIC GUITAR....WHAT? NAH, JUST SOMETHING I WROTE THIS MORNING. AIN'T NO THING."

― attack all monsters (skowly), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

SIT TOGETHER ON A BED AND LOOK AT PICTURES

mark ratner and stacey hamilton to thread.

― chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

provide an extra layer of stalling to the process, so that one never has to say "look, I'm not interested"? You can just say "look me up on Facebook" and then when this person you're not interested in keeps chirping up to you, you reply to maybe 50% of their emails and string them along forever, saving them up for a really desperate rainy day.

This is possible, sure. But it's also possible IRL--see a person around campus, keep looking for then, dropping notes in their box, calling them, whatever.

As deej says: Facebook won't create passive-agressive behavior on the part of the "chaser" or shittiness from the chased, just allow them to engage in such behavior.

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

i dont really know why i'm playing captain save-a-facebook, most people i know just use it the same way other people use flickr

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

oh yea, looking at pictures is always good. though dude, if your already sat on the bed together, you shouldn't really be missing from there

― Storefront Church (688), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

great thing about the internet: you could sit together on a bed with a girl and teleconference in nabisco and jaymc to do play-by-play and color commentary

― attack all monsters (skowly), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

OH--YOU'VE NEVER SEEN SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE? LET'S WATCH IT RIGHT NOW!

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

p2p peeping tommery

― blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm 25, and I teach undergrads. The extent to which their social lives revolve around facebook (even the non-creepy, non-males) never ceases to amaze me.

-- caek (ung...), January 23rd, 2007 9:15 AM. (caek) (later) (link)

this is true. i'm 26, undercover as an undergrad, and whenever i go to the library, every single student has the facebook or myspace open. i'm always a little ashamed when i look up old friends or something at home, and these people are throwing out electronic pickup lines in a public library! DUDE, I'M BLATANTLY READING OVER YR SHOULDER! she's busted, btw, don't waste your time.

― attack all monsters (skowly), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

It is another layer of bureaucracy between you and sweet sweet kissin, is what I'm saying.

I have nothing against the Internets for meeting people, thrashing through ideas, creating things that didn't exist before; but as a way to sort the wheat from the chaff and put yourself on a fast-track to sweet sweet kissin, calling somebody up is the way you want to go.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

i'm pretty sure most people on facebook are aware of how little risk emacking carries for the facebook flirt, and don't really take it seriously unless they get REAL BRO vibes from the person IRL

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

ehh i withdraw that, i don't really know what 'most people' think

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

i'm 26, undercover as an undergrad, and whenever i go to the library, every single student has the facebook or myspace open

I'm 35, work at a library, and notice the same thing. (The library is now essentially a big computer lab that has a lot of books in it, which nobody should have been surprised to see coming.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

It's no more a "layer of bureaucracy" than someone's e-mail address ffs.

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/Tobeepornottobeep.jpg

― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

FWIW I feel the same way about email, fandango!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Get drunk and watch Blow-Up? If you are not lunged at by the time the photographer is straddling girls, the magic ain't there.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

suzy, you sound like a fun date.

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - how about text messaging?

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe you guys should be friends on facebook

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Problem with all these things is that the cute girl won't pay any attention to your profile unless she already fancies you. If she already fancies you, then you're home and dry and should really be pursuing it there and then then while the window of opportunity is still open.

I was going to say 'what's the point of falling over in the box and appealing for a penalty when you're clean through on goal' but it doesn't quite work and the fact that I can't find a facile footballing analogy is deeply irking me.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Serendipitous random encounters are fairly effective, although you can't really plan them ahead of time, making them less effective as a hook-up strategy. I guess I recommend walking around aimlessly all the time, eventually you will bump into a prospective bootysource and then it's nothing but poppage ahoy!

― blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

this thread just convinced me to delete my myspace page

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

I guess you could technically plan the random encounter ahead of time, Costanza, but then we're back to creepy, which doesn't win pantaloon access.

― blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

I am being completely serious about email, by the way. Cops don't use email and neither should you. This is not an exaggeration for effect or a devil's advocate routine. How do you think somebody wants to hear from you, as another line of text in Outlook Express, sandwiched between a bank statement, "hey mans whys your weenie small ;)" and three job alerts, or a sudden vibration, followed by the dulcet thrums of your gorgeous voice?

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

I recommend following them around the library going "I like My Chemical Romance and Donnie Darko".

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

tracer otm (though that's twice he's said the nypd have it figured out -- uh!?)

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really like phone-talkin' so would prefer e-mail (in Comic Sans font) myself.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.geocities.com/roo_two/new_deadfall.gif

― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

"pantaloon access"!!! you had me at "Costanza," n1ck.

NRQ it's called continuity!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

God, I hate phones. I hate them so much. Email and the interweb and stuff like that has been a godsend for phonephobic people like me to still have a social life.

― The Whistling Bus (kate), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.magpiebrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/nypdblue.jpg

'fuck using a internets'

― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'll say it again, Gareth made the right point up above -- it's not the means of communication, it's *communication,* period, and preferences differ.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

I like walkie-talkies, myself.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

...or a sudden vibration, followed by the dulcet thrums of your gorgeous voice?

Remember how Ian Reise-Moiraine had all these babes as his myspace friends? Suddenly I'm imagining the instances where he worked up the nerve (SQUEE!) to actually call them and they heard his ~~inexplicable fake British~~ affected accent and decided maybe Cuddlestein Mountain maybe wasn't where they wanted to be.

― blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I like walkie-talkies, myself.

"goodbye my paper cups and cord baaaabe"

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really like phone-talkin' so would prefer e-mail (in Comic Sans font) myself.

You see, at least with phone-talking' there's no way you can speak in a hideous font that repulses the human eye.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Unless you are Fran Drescher.

― blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Okay wait that didn't make as much sense as I had hoped.

― blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - We don't all have a dulcet voice, or are comfortable enough with the phone.

andrew is otm--maybe we should think of profiles as conversation, not in opposition to it.

Hold up there, I'm saying no such thing. Talking to cute people about stuff is great (and 'interests' is of course just a small part of 'stuff')!

Except the part where you READ ABOUT your friend's interests. That's not really TALKING. That's called READING.

This is then followed by talking.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Okay wait that didn't make as much sense as I had hoped.

No, no, it worked.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

I have decided as a result of this thread that before I die I will use walkie-talkies to communicate with the person I am having sex with.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

Also enough with the "if you haven't bedded her within three and a half seconds you're outta here" stuff. Matt's football talk is a perfect match for how he operates - champangne stuff, lovely one-touch magic etc - but the rest of us may be more comfortable with play-by-email boardgames [WARNING ANALOGY CORE BREACH IMMINENT]

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

If she already fancies you, then you're home and dry and should really be pursuing it there and then then while the window of opportunity is still open.

you may or may not be home and dry in the penalty box, you still have to shoot though, otherwise its aleksander hleb time. also, you might not realise you are clear in the penalty box

i think theres advice for myself somewhere in there

― Storefront Church (688), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

I have decided as a result of this thread that before I die I will use walkie-talkies to communicate with the person I am having sex with.

Oddly enough, I have had a private chat on Channel 2 on a walkie-talkie with a lover.

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Please to explain "dry in the penalty box"?

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

home and dry

not dry

― Storefront Church (688), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

otherwise its aleksander hleb time.

roffle

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

I take it that does not mean Miller Time?

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

If the "penalty box" is what I think it is then wouldn't it being "dry" be a not so good thing?

xpost

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

no andrew i think we do agree--the profiles are part of the conversation, not a replacement. there still is face to face talking (cuz there needs to be face to face popping)

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

"It was really great to see you again"

"Yeah, it really was!"

"That was cool, the way you just took me out for ice cream, I don't think anyone's ever done that before"

"Haha yeah that was fun"

"And then it was really nice, sitting on your bed"

"Uh huh"

"Looking at those pictures. You know?"

"Yeah."

"OK, so... I guess I gotta go."

"Yeah."

"So..."

"Alright."

"OK, bye"

"Bye"

*Can't wait to see if she mentions this on Facebook*

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

That was horribly unfair by the way, I'm sorry.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

"Ten four over and out"

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

we'll work ham radio into this yet

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

What is the DEAL with these Nextel phones?

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

The word 'cyberpoppage' just appeared in my head and now I hate myself.

but the rest of us may be more comfortable with play-by-email boardgames

Fair play, but it depends on the board games. You don't want to find you've been playing for hours and someone else has got in ahead of you and put six hotels on Mayfair. Or something.

Getting back to the issue at hand, in light of all the easily Googleable L0u1s J4gger information that's around, I think he may be better off pursuing women who have never been near a computer in their life.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

luddites?

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

why do these threads always a) become about Louis Jagger and b) become stupid?

Some people use facebook/myspace to keep up with friends. Some use it to find people to randomly hook up with. Some stalk/friend every single person who ALSO LIKES ARCADE FIRE ZOMG to delude themselves into thinking they are not lonely social freaks. NOT REALLY SUPER INTERESTING ROCKET SCIENCE.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

mennonites? (nsfw)

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

they become about him cuz hes like the only virgin, or the only one that shouts about it all day long anyway

― Storefront Church (688), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

One meow, two meow, three meow, scat!
What's the initial of my pet tom cat?
Is it A, B, C, D, E, F, G?
Is it H or J or L, M, N, O, P?
Is it L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T?
No, it's you!You're the cat for me!

You know you've been mean to me
And you know when you're mean to me
How it always makes me wanna roam
And you know there's a danger
That some gentle stranger
Might pick me up and make me feel at home.

So pet me poppa, poppa pet me nice. (Meow!)
Pet me poppa, poppa break the ice. (And you know how!)
If you don't want me out roaming the city,
Talk to me pretty, "Here kitty kitty!"
And pet me poppa, poppa pet me nice.

Ooh, pet me poppa, poppa pet me good. (Meow!)
Mmm, pet me poppa, proper like you should. (And you know how!)
If you care to keep me home by the fire,
'specially when it's time to retire
Then pet me poppa, poppa pet me good.

Warm up my saucer of milk, and maybe I'll purr.
Lay out my cushion of silk, don't rumple my fur!

Just reach over and pet me poppa, poppa melt the ice.
If you don't want me out roaming the city,
Talk to me pretty, "Here kitty kitty!"
And pet me poppa, that's my good advice!

Pet me poppa!
Pet me poppa!
Pet me poppa, poppa pet me! (That'll get me!)
Pet me poppa, poppa pet me nice!

― Maria :D (Maria D.), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

jessie you're talking to ilx's don juans here. a little respect

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

You don't want to find you've been playing for hours and someone else has got in ahead of you and put six hotels on Mayfair

Or rolling a six and then realising you've landed on a massive snake.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Email is good but only if used in letter prose form, short message style, l33t speak and emoticons need not apply.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

apparently mennonites be foot fetishists. Whole foot-washing deal I guess.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

I feel kind of bad that our Don Juans are denying the OP some sorely-needed advice. :(((

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Mennonite porn! Now I've seen everything. Well, except Nestorian porn.

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Where's Don Juan Martian when you need him anyway?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

jessie uhhh have you not been paying attention? SECRET: POKE HER ON FACEBOOK TILL SHE LETS YOU POP

― max (maxreax), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

jessie, there's plenty of useful advice on this thread. C'mon, "dead hookers", what won't that get you in life?

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

For the record is the notion of taking someone out for ice cream being ridiculed or praised? If anyone used that for a first date with me it'd be WUV, but I don't think I'd opt for the strategy myself.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Only if it is expensive ice cream like Coldstone. Or homemade.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

WTF its january, who goes for ice cream

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

It's not a "strategy," it's just something fun and corny to do! SHEESH

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

jessie, there's plenty of useful advice on this thread. C'mon, "dead hookers", what won't that get you in life?

-- M. White (boeldie...) (webmail), January 23rd, 2007 12:30 PM. (Miguelito) (later) (link)

Dude, just because a dead hooker will get you dinner that doesn't mean it's the answer to EVERYTHING.

We should really just consolidate everything into a thread for Louis to talk about not getting laid.

Tracer, with virgins/creeps, EVERYTHING is a "strategy".

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure the answer lies in a Next Generation episode somewhere. "OMG, Data you are so crazy, but I have also leaned an important lesson about the ladeez."

― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

1) real life meet, with clear & present opportunity (drunk, sociable gathering, partner(?) not present) > telephone number > date!

2) real life meet > email, no number/e-chat > get number/chat again > date!

2) real life meet > fail to get phone number for some reason, fail to just "bump into" again at a good time > happen to find myspace... > hell why not? > e/#/chat > date!

99) OkCupid!

NOT ROCKET SCIENCE (jessie OTM).

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

wasn't there an episode where Data had emotions and got all romanticized for some lady? Kind of the "Spock must mate" episode of TNG?? xpost

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Tracer, I don't do ;-)s. It'd feel like I'm ripping off Ned or Geir.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

We should really just consolidate everything into a thread for Louis to talk about not getting laid.

yes or a board. one we keep in a barrel in the atlantic.

― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

best piece of advice on the thread so far.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

i must be missing something because i read people talking about/referring to Louis a lot more than Louis talking about himself (like a 10:1 ratio ffs)

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

hence a board is required.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

a broad is required (for Louis)

― fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

That wasn't just a Data-gets-emotions episode (of which there are like DOZENS), but a Data-gets-a-boner episode, which is way more appurtenant to our discussion here.

― blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

holy fuck, this thread

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

this thread makes me want to take a basball bat to half of ILX

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

the number of damaging, unfair assumptions made about me by people who've never met me, don't understand my humour, or have met me when I'd been awake for 28 hours solid, drinking for about 20 of those hours, is absolutely astonishing. allyzay in particular, W.T.F.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

it's just the internet. get over it.

― Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

no. they haven't got over my 'creepiness', why should i get over their bullshit?

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

b/c it only affects you IRL as much as you allow it to. Get up from your computer and go do something else.

― Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

holy fuck, this thread

Jess called, he wants his catchphrase back.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Also yes clearly we should be discussing your inner beauty instead of the impression you make.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

ilx, you've just earned yourself a point-by-point dissection.

STOP LEAVING AT MIDNIGHT. All the good stuff happens between 1.00am and 2.00am. You're how old? 20? Surely you can work through a hangover?

fucking. hell.

last week i left the club when it closed at 3 a.m, and then documented it here. generally, i stay at least until 2. i almost never go home at midnight. so why you say 'STOP LEAVING AT MIDNIGHT' is utterly beyond me. secondly, i don't get hangovers. the reason i left was because I had to translate an entire chapter of Ovid's 'Heroides' into English before my class at 11 a.m. the next morning. big deal, you say? well, yeah, because i also had a radio training session from 8 a.m. to 10 a.m. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CAMBRIDGE that same morning. i eventually got to sleep at 3.30 and slept for just under 4 hours. entirely reasonable, one might argue! plus, all the girls who were with us had gone home.

1. From observation: Stop smiling. You have a very strained smile, people on the other side of the pub were going "why is that guy over there so anxious?"

oh really? well, perhaps being drunk, nervous, sleep-deprived and, yes, a little anxious made it seem that way.

2. Stick to non-creepy jokes. "although it helps. ;-)" and the like are right out. Playing with your real and percieved standings on the crepometer may may you friends on ILX (...at some point) but it Will. Not. Get. You. Laid.

it's not meant to get me laid, i have my social life for that. and trust me, all my 'lol stalker' jokes are kept to the internet. not that i actually make that many. i don't need to. i've got you guys.

3. i don't. my ilx vocabulary is deliberately arch, IRL i like to think personality speaks for itself! This isn't true. Make it true.

you talked to me for 15 minutes, dude, my personality is pretty fucking defined, just takes a good few hours when i'm NOT WASTED to realise this. or a time when i'm not inhibited by nervousness, as i was a little then. i'm not normally nervous meeting new people, at all, you should take it as a fucking compliment

For heaven's sake, this is creepy

right.

EVERYONE is on facebook, everyone uses it.

I DIDN'T SAY I STALKED PEOPLE OVER FACEBOOK! i have never 'friended' anyone i hadn't met and got on with first. when it comes to romantic pursuit i DO NOT USE FACEBOOK TO TRACK GIRLS. how did you get this idea?

my words are truth. people don't have profiles on your phone, but they do on the internet. it's a good way of RENEWING acquaintance.

and lastly,

IT WAS THE GIRL who said SHE'D facebook-search ME.

i'm baffled, allyzay, baffled as to why you continue to describe everything i do as creepy.

THANK YOU. daniel rf 1 - 0 ILX

You should have a conversation or do things together to find common interests, not internet-stalk one another.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS DOING FOR FOUR AND A HALF HOURS LAST NIGHT, AND WILL BE DOING AGAIN FOR GOODNESS KNOWS HOW LONG TONIGHT, FACEBOOK TAKES UP, WHAT, FIVE MINUTES OF MY LIFE PER DAY, IF THAT? JESUS

I think that completely cirumvents one of the awesomest things about meeting new people, namely spending time figuring them out and how you intersect with them.

SEE FUCKING PREVIOUS POINT

a lot of comments along these wavelengths over and over and over again?

along what wavelengths? i like to go out and meet new people but haven't yet pulled one? OH MY GOD CREEPY

I'm sure there are d00dz who are totally creepy about "poking"

i only poke if poked

Louis, have you ever thought of becoming president? I don't think you'd really compare too badly w/ most of the republican nominees. I mean John McCain cheated on his wife.

1) i'm british

2) this isn't funny or incisive

3) stfu

andrew, you shouldn't be discussing me at all if this is the sort of shit you'll all come up with.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

NO NO NO NO NO

― say it with blood diamonds (a_p), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

um the president joke was a riff on facebook ruining potential political careers but if you want to take it as a jab at you thats fine too.

― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

if only he knew how to program computers, he could rule this site with an iron fist and demand gifts

― TOMBO7 (TOMBOT), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

okay, that i accept, but a) make y'self clearer next time and b) the rest stands.

sorry about that, deej.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

HA ha ha hah
xpost

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

I read gifts a gifs

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

Same here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

I had no idea all that facebook/myspace stuff was a discussion over how a particular person uses those sites and not a discussion on how people in general use those sites.

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

the fact that most of them referenced me or one of my posts in their argument may have been a clue.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Narcissism is unappealing. You should give it a rest, maybe.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

How about 'Huzzah, young filly, now for the charge of the Light Brigade' then. Or 'Huzzah, young filly, be prepared to defend the Khyber pass from Dost Mohammed'

Clearly it is time to revive this thread.

― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

I don't describe everything you do as creepy, in fact the most cursory of ILX searches reveals me repeatedly defending you as basically harmless or funny or certainly not worth the arguments certain ILXors have put on you. I won't make the mistake of defending you next time Jessie or Ned or whomever decides to pick on you, you little martyr for virginity. But I'm sorry, being proud over being myspaced and not just focusing on the phone # is FUCKING CREEPY AND NOT GOING TO GET YOU A GIRLFRIEND. I mean, jesus dude, if you are just being a douche-baton because you like to on ILX and think it is "arch" then be my guest but maybe you should not get so squee cuddlestein mountain over being facebooked if you don't want people to say you're being kind of creepy about it?

Everything I said about the way I feel about certain subsets of young men and the way they've decided to use facebook/myspace still stands.

― Allyzay doesnt get into the monkeys or vindications (allyzay), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Louis, I sympathize but your self-regard veers close to narcissism. It's not always just about you and your taking this all so seriously makes you an obvious target, not that I altogether approve but that's the way it is. Relax, make a self-deprecating joke, and don't be surprised by occasional cattiness from a message board.

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

?, ?????? ???????, ???
??????????? ??????', ??????????? ??

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

this isn't fucking narcissism, this is self-defence! if you read a threadful of bullshit directed at you, you'd want to hit back, surely!

omg

little martyr for virginity

what.

being proud over being myspaced and not just focusing on the phone #

1. not proud. have no real interest in the girl. just mentioned it in passing here (causing, as is ILX's wont, a day-long shit-storm, most of which took place in my absence). 2. facebooked, to be pedantic 3. i focus on the phone number when it means something.

i don't understand what any of you are on (about).

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

?, ?????? ???????, ???
??????????? ??????', ??????????? ??

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

ok, yeah, louis, i'm barely older than you, and was an obnoxious dick when i started posting here, but i somehow avoided this insane trolling effect you have (maybe because i've had sex lolol j/k blood diamonds louis), and seriously -- you're probably a totally normal dude, and i understand that it's gotta be stressful to have a dozen strangers across the world mocking you on the internet, but LET IT GO and for the sake of your sanity do not EVER write the words "ilx, you've just earned yourself a point-by-point dissection" AGAIN

― say it with blood diamonds (a_p), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

this isn't fucking narcissism, this is self-defence! if you read a threadful of bullshit directed at you, you'd want to hit back, surely!

I'd want to but I'd refrain since it's counter-productive.

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

Relax, make a self-deprecating joke

AS I DID earlier, with the 'but it helps ;-)' line. i thought that would be the end of the issue. it shouldn't have been. my 'self-regard' now is the fault of those who took absurd issue with what i said.

i'm going to dinner now, then i'm going out. i may pop back in between. i expect this issue to have been closed. and this thread locked.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

*should have been

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

Bon ap

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

i expect this issue to have been closed. and this thread locked.

wow, in my head was the voice of ward cleaver telling wally and the beave he was going to play golf and he was expecting the garage to be cleaned and the lawn cut by the time he gets back.

― chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

I knew LJ had been mentioned but I had no idea the thread was about him until he told me so.

Since we're off on the myspace/facebook tangent, I feel the need to reiterate: friends and prospective girlfriends aren't best picked on the basis of shared interests. I'd start worrying for a future with hyper-segregated social circles, but as max mentioned, the majority are just going to like the same five things anyway.

― mh. (mike h.), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Ù, ðáßäåò ÅëëÞíùí, ßôå
Åëåõèåñïýôå ðáôñßä', åëåõèåñïýôå äå

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

I believe Louis you neglected to dissect the point made in post 243 in this thread, which makes this a logistical beatdown and not a point-by-point dissection after all.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Also, please set your text encoding to Greek (ISO 8859-7) to read my last post.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

o, children of the greeks, go
leave the fatherland, leave

close?

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/john.phillipson1/murray/prisoner.jpg

― If you fuck with Jimmy Mod, you call down the thunder (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

no, wait, FREE the fatherland

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

BAN LOUIS JAGGER

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

ten million xposts - i definitely recommend asking a girl to get ice cream in january and then insisting on eating it outside! it would be cute and remind her of mother russia. or perhaps that would just be the way to my heart, and others would be annoyed.

how do you reset to read greek?

― Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

view, text encoding.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

bah, that didn't work for me.

― Ms Misery (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

sam, alex and m white all otm.

I've heard this many times before and it always baffles me. Yes you can get along with people who have diferent interests, yes you may not get along with people who have the same interests, but...do the people who say this really have more friends whose interests *don't* overlap with theirs than ones where they do? And is basing yer new friendships on interests really a much worse course of action than, what, thinking they're pretty or funny or nice? I mean those are just as likely to work out badly.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

The dirty little secret is that it's almost all likely to work out badly, eventually. You just suck it up and try anyway.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

HOW MANY POST WILL BE DEVOTED TO LOUIS' PROSPECTIVE LOVE LIFE

WHEN WILL THE MADNESS END

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

http://itisamystery.com/iiam.gif

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

[Verse 2: Rasheeda]
Bend over and touch ya toes, blow smoke got ya hoes like you blowin dro
Slide down the pole, upside down do it fast or slow
Round here we professionals, get flexible, real sexual
Make a nigga wanna eat it like a vegetable
When he see that ass rise like a buttered roll
Round here we gangstered out, this aint no titty bar
we let it all hang out
Break bread till the song played out, show that nigga what a real bitch bout
These cats thank they pimpin like Don Juan
But they all played out like the thong song
Get ya money gul, show em what you really bout
Rasheeda reppin fo the ladies in the south

― lex pretend (lex pretend), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Be vewwwy careful, peeps. On MySpace, I'm a man. *grin*

― Hey Jude (Hey Jude), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

I thought it was in its death throes, but then someone came and kicked the life back into it. :(

― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel has been otm for an eternity on this thread. She deserves her props, too.

― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

I only wish I were OffTM.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

lolz @ predictability of it all

― vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

I WOULD BE CAREFUL ABOUT FOLLOWING LAUREL'S ADVICE.

― chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

at least as far as like, movies and bridges and shit goes.

― chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

laurel has shitty taste in bridges?

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

Don't blame me because you only like '70s-era stoner teen comedies, dude.

XP: w/r/t bridges: you had to be there.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

Don't blame me because you only like '70s-era stoner teen comedies, dude.

Fast Times at Ridgemont High came out in 1982, THANKYOUVERYMUCH.

― chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Bridges go over things, sometimes empty spaces!

― blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Sometimes they also have names, for instance, "Williamsburg" and "Manhattan."

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.asdfplus.com/Posters/F1/FabulousBB.gif

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

manhattan bridge pwns all

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff Bridges...son of Lloyd Bridges, brother of Beau Bridges! IMDB.com, you are a treat!

― blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

lives in chelsea michigan i believe.

― chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

chelsea was a ritualistic stop on the journey from chicago to ann arbor to buy $.99 sunglasses at the gas station just off I-90.

― chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

bridges is a sweet name to have

― jhobridges (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

secondly, i don't get hangovers
secondly, i don't get hangovers
secondly, i don't get hangovers
secondly, i don't get hangovers

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

Porky Pig Style.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

secondly, i don't get hangovers

clearly ilx is just jealous of lj's youthful alcohol-metabolising powers.

why did i read this whole thread when i knew it was going to be horrible?

― ampersand, spades, semicolon (cis), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

BE NICE TO LOUIS JAGGER

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

because the beginning is funny

― jhobridges (scoopsnoodle), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

Was it REALLY unclear that the post I made about Facebook/Myspace was more a general impression and not intended as a critique or chastisement of one Louis "MEMEMEMEMEMEME" Jagger, Esq?

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Just for the record, from now on when I refer to "Titface Cuntysnots", I am referring to Louis.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Don't listen to Dan. Before he posted his pointed remarks, he sent me this long email about how he was going to get Louis, up to and including tapping Louis's phone and parking suspicious looking utility vehicles in Louis's neighborhood.

― Fleischhutliebe! like a warm, furry meatloaf (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

And is basing yer new friendships on interests really a much worse course of action than, what, thinking they're pretty or funny or nice? I mean those are just as likely to work out badly.

You've never encountered a group of friends who all have the same tastes and EXACT SAME PERSONALITIES then. Who cares if it ends badly if you end up with some new tastes, tolerances for bad taste, or a better understanding of friends who have lived a completely different life. There's something to be said for having a variable (and varied!) group of friends.

― mh. (mike h.), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

True. There is also something to be said for being able to hang out with a bunch of your friends and put on some music without a riot breaking out.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

Or any Ween/Mike Patton/Mr Bungle breaking out.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel and I are officially in a FITE.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

What definition of "ends badly" are you using, mh? Like, the friendship dissolving after years? I was talking about the attempt to *start* a friendship going badly, i.e. pretty person turns out to be an idiot, funny person turns out to be obnoxious, nice person turns out to be dull. These things come around pretty soon in the game, so there's no taste-palette-expanding benefits to be had, really.

This "group of friends who all have the same tastes and EXACT SAME PERSONALITIES" stuff...I dunno, half of the fun of having friends who share your taste is that of course you DO disagree on some stuff. And of course diferent friends have diferent tastes in common with ya. The only experience I've had with the sort of groups you describe, really, is people who don't care much about culture in the first place - i.e. the last people on earth who'd choose friends based on tastes.

Variety is awesome, yeah. But I mean if I met someone who's really into, I dunno, indian music or noir literature or (insert taste I know nothing about here), I'd be interested in that person, too, and that'd fall into making a friendship based on taste, too!

I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's *better* than choosing on those other factors we've listed, just that it's as valid as any take.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

dan, sorry but laurel continues her otm-ness on this thread.

xpost- omg my head is going to explode. must stop reading.

― chicago kevin (chicago kevin), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. Sorry, Dan, I knew I was fishing with that one, but I was thinking of an actual past acquaintence who I really don't miss sharing any music time with.

― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

(In all fairness, I don't give a shit about Ween.)

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, this sounds a bit pretentious, I'm sure. Just to clear things up, it's not like I don't have friends with what I think is bad or just uninteresting taste, too. There aren't any actual rules to who you end up being friends with, obv.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

Dan Perry and I are officially in a fight.

― UART variations (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

This thread is mad like wo.

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

uh..

― Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

pretty person turns out to be an idiot, funny person turns out to be obnoxious, nice person turns out to be dull. These things come around pretty soon in the game

How about "girl with great picture on Facebook turns out to be an idiot" or "person who wrote hilarious profile turns out to be obnoxious" (i actually don't have a problem with obnoxiousness per se) or "person who loves [the same bands you love] " turns out to be a bore? (oh the horror of that last one!)

For the purposes of getting LAIDED the amount of information, on all verteces and vectors, you get by talking (using your voice) or hanging out w/someone, just puts the written word to shame. You can get to know people very well online, or through reading their newspaper columns, or from reading their books, and know things about them that many of their best friends or family don't even know, but what was that statistic about people, like most people make up their minds whether they'll sleep w/somebody within 2 1/2 seconds of meeting them or something? So yeah "these things come around pretty soon in the game" OTM!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

haha I love that by continuing to post on this thread I am perpetuating like I am a Don Juan.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

perpetuating perpetrating

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 00:13 (nineteen years ago)

Well, that can happen too, of course! I don't really see how anything said on this thread has ever implied that it doesn't.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I think I was reading too fast.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

I should point out that I can (and have, and know others who have) use "here have my email address/LJ link" as a way to just get rid of someone you're not actually interested in at all...

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 00:58 (nineteen years ago)

Kind of the "don't call us, we'll call you" approach.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

okay, ilx, tonight i stayed until 3:45 a.m, got two girls' phone numbers after lengthy chats, and after a deeply involved 2-hour chat walked one of them most of the way home (before she decided to cycle the rest). We were in falling snow, alone in the street. If I'd made a move the deal would probably have been sealed, and were I to relive the past 20 minutes of my life I certainly would have done. Each experience gives me a better idea of what's required, however, and after a great night of minimal house (omg I LOVE), conversation and flirting I feel ready to make a definitive move next time.

happy now?

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 04:00 (nineteen years ago)

I am delirious!

I say, could you repeat whatever it was you wrote? This delirium impairs my understanding of any but simple sentences of short words.

― Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 04:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not happy.

― clotpoll (Clotpoll), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

Right, Aimless...I go to club, meet girls. I get numbers, I have long chat. End up walking one home. Should have made a move. Regret not doing so. There's always next time.

ADDENDUM: she has just added me as a facebook friend. nota bene: SHE added ME.

what a fucking creep, i should never have got talking.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 04:16 (nineteen years ago)

Baiting someone relentlessly and then calling them out as a narcissist when they defend themselves is kinda lame.

Also, Louis is perpetually getting crucified for vocalizing things felt by at least half of the guys here (can't speak for the girls)! It's just that he's foolish enough to say them, instead of keeping them to himself. E.g.:

ADDENDUM: she has just added me as a facebook friend. nota bene: SHE added ME.

I mean, yeah, that doesn't come off very well, and when I read it I think "Louis, you should have left that out." But does it feel good, for me, when a girl I've met who think is cute "friends" me on Myspace? When she makes a point of looking me up? Yes, sure, it does. I don't take it as a sign that I'm GETTIN LUCKAH but hell, when you're sweet on somebody, every little thing they do to suggest you're on their mind becomes a big deal.

And that -- the mild obsession with little details -- is true of almost everyone I've ever met, male or female, who's capable of getting crushes/whatever on someone. So I find it hypocritical that people are ripping someone to shreds for vocalizing what (almost) all of us have experienced. It's almost as though the males of this thread, especially, want to distance themselves from someone who seems to embody all their memories of embarrassment and naivete and trying too hard.

― lurker #2421, inc. (lurker-2421), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

do you have any concept of how vile and unpleasant this place would be if everyone vocalised every little feeling they had?

― jimbo (electricsound), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 04:46 (nineteen years ago)

In general, Louis, I'd say that it's better to leave things out, and risk saying too little, than to do the opposite. Enthusiasm wants to express itself boundlessly, but it takes up a lot of space, and often says too much. Learn to compress your thoughts a bit, leave room for exegesis, and you'll seem less earnest and more casual (i.e. less trying too hard, more confident).

xpost There's a fuck of a lot of difference between "I just met a girl and I'm obsessing over every detail" and...well, some of the shit that otherwise might get posted, let's leave it at that.

Also, isn't that basically what happens on TITTWIS threads?

― lurker #2421, inc. (lurker-2421), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 04:49 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I guess, but my early contributions to this thread were innocent and offhand, my 'facebook' comment (the first one) being just a passing remark and not an every-detail-obsession. the subsequent shitstorm however took it past the point of no return. Reading through the thread a genuine sense of sadness and rage began to grow, that I could be treated in such a manner by people I myself feel (felt) unequipped to judge. My response was rooted in this anger, not in any 'narcissism', as you rightly point out, nor in wanting to express every tiny detail. I'm only trying to quash a load of idiotic assumptions people seem to be making.

Reminding people of their horrid former selves is something I seem to be quite good at. Funnily enough, I myself look at 16 year-olds and am repulsed at what I once was, so I guess it's basically some sort of great chain of ageist superiority.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 04:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm only trying to quash a load of idiotic assumptions people seem to be making.

In the States, when someone famous sues a tabloid over a story, people assume it's true, or at least give it more credence. (Think of how aggressively certain actors go after "X is gay" rumors.) OTOH, when the famous person ignores the story, it usually goes away.

Same thing was true in grade school, at least sometimes. "Go fuck yourself", or a punch to the solar plexus, was usually a better reply than "Am not!"

Also, I'm sure you have something better to do (than defend yourself against Internet ad homs). It'd be better to go do it, I think.

― lurker #2421, inc. (lurker-2421), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 05:02 (nineteen years ago)

You are right, and that thing is 'get some fucking sleep'! Cheers for seeing this thread from a balanced, sensitive viewpoint. Now, mods, plz 2 lock.

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 05:11 (nineteen years ago)

SO tomorrow, say early afternoon, ring her up and invite her out for a drink or maybe dinner at the Rainbow. (Is that place still going? Opposite Trinity, Vegetarian place, very good?)

Do not contact her through bloody facebook. And if you want this thread to go away, stop telling us what you are doing with the implied request for advice.

(Just call me, Cyrano)

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 24 January 2007 07:06 (nineteen years ago)

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