Bump this thread whenever another fraternity gets caught throwing a racist party

Also, just a few days later, law students at UCONN had a nice "Bullets & Bubbly" party.

"What's the problem, brah?"

The funny part is that all the ones going for gang looks just come off like everyday lame frat guys.

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7006249873

this one looks like a real life gangsta!

"It is second chance beer of the Coors Brewing Company. Because Keystone comes from the second-chance portion of a batch of Coors, it has a lower price, and as a result is very popular among college students or those on a limited budget. According to the Coors Brewery Tour Guides, Keystone is not a second chance beer, but actually has its own recipe and brewing standards. The price of Keystone is low because Coors does not actively advertise for the Keystone brands."

love that industry spin!!

http://www.teletronic.co.uk/onslow.jpg

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art3/0125071mlk7.jpg

yeah -- except that they would be doing all of that whilst wearing untucked abercrombie & fitch shirts and baseball caps, instead of doorags, oversized tees and fake grills.

Also, they are assholes.

i wouldn't be so sure about THAT, not as long as outfits like the federalist society exist.

This sounds like the worst thing

Granted, a conglomeration of this type of clubgoer is not TECHNICALLY a frat, but...

roflz

Kurt Strasser, the law school's interim dean, told the Courant, "I hope the students will come to realize that pictures that are put on the Internet are likely to be available to potential employers, clients, and parents."

Yup. That's the important lesson there.

But perhaps he means his favorite part of The Chronic was "The $25 Sack Pyramid."

hahaha

Black people do love skits! Don't you people have hip hop albums?

priviledged liberal college kids in secretly feeling entitled to enjoy racism as lol joek shocker

in response to the statement in the description above, i did not die a little inside. i died a lot inside. stay strong, stay together, and keep fighting. here's another group if any of you are interested.

For as long as I live, so will Chief Illiniwek

WE LOVE YOU CHIEF!

at 12:03pm
is it not true that he has to learn the real dances/chants? I really don't understand why the NCAA would retire a symbol of a university unless it sends a degrading message. This, obviously, does not. It honors tradition in a good way. I wonder how much malice and hate Florida Gator fans have in their hearts when they do the infamous "Gator Chomp"? Lets stop them from the multi-million dollar business of hosting tournaments. If the NCAA feels as though they need to make an example of someone, make it somewhere else. Go Illini!

at 8:38am
Dear Friends,
I read and signed "Loyalty to the Chief."
Please take a moment to read about this important issue, and join me in signing the petition. It takes just 30 seconds, but can truly make a difference. We are trying to reach 16,692 signatures - please sign here:

at 1:51am
I'm not usually one to get highly emotional about things, but I couldn't even sing along with the alma mater because I was choked up.

i just want to say FUCK POLITICAL CORRECTNESS! That aside, I seriously think that getting rid of Chief Illiniwek was a blow to the name of college sports. There are a lot of teams that are named after tribes and shit, do they have their mascot taken? No. The thing that pisses me off the most about this is that the stipulations to wear the costume are ridiculous. They HAVE to be a certain amount of Native American, they HAVE to have some sort of background in it. Not only that, but the dance is a real dance. Who in the hell do these people think they are? I say we get a petition to bring Chied Illiniwek back.
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I would like to personally thank Dan and the former Chiefs for their years of service in carrying on our proud tradition here at the University of Illinois. You all carried yourselves with dignity and class every time you set foot on the playing surface and I & my family appreciate it a great deal.
I would also like to remind the members of this group, that the Chief is retired but not gone or banned…With help and support I believe we can bring him back at a later time!
Judging by the numbers last night & today I would say, "the needs of the 'many' should be able to triumph over the complaints of a 'few'."
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Has anyone ever heard a comeback from anyone on why fighting irish is accepted and the Chief is so "racist" and "closeminded"? I don't understand why one is okay and is a sense of pride for a group of people, but another group of people, who people have tried hard not to offend, takes it all as an insult. It's a tribute to the state's past. I just don't understand it.
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The guy who wrote that article in the post dispatch is a moron...he says that we have been ignoring this for years but he obviously did not do his homework because we had the blessing of the last cheif of the ancestors of the illini tribe. It wasn't until recently when the last cheif died and a new cheif was elected that the tribe changed thier mind....
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the fact that this happened makes me hate minorities
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Here's the Trib lady's email and the email for the editor:
----@tribune.com,
-----@tribune.com

Since when did the Chief do a tomahawk chop? I think it's time to flood her inbox asking for a correction.

LAUREL'S OFFICE-THEMED PARTY AT ZETA TAU ZETA TOMORROW NIGHT

I have a lot of opinions about this issue that probably aren't "politically correct" to post on this wall, but my question is this: Aren't there more important things going on in the world today that need to be dealt with than bitching about college mascots and symbols? For instance, why don't these people who must bitch about something put up a good fight to stop terrorism or child abuse or something of that nature. As a U of I alum, I can say their efforts would be much more appreciated in other areas than desecrating OUR CHIEF!!!!

http://www.startribune.com/10242/story/1528428.html

Hamline University has suspended six players from its football team for donning blackface and body paint to dress up as African tribesmen for an off-campus Halloween party, an incident that has sparked a discussion about racial sensitivity at the St. Paul liberal arts college.

...

The university is investigating the incident to find out whether the students violated policy, Hamline spokesman JacQui Getty said Sunday. Two cheerleaders who helped the players with their costumes and reportedly posted photos of them on the Internet social-networking site Facebook with a caption about "spooks" are also under investigation.

Sophomore Tasha Simmons, a friend of the students involved, said the matter has been blown out of proportion and taken out of context. "People misunderstood," she said.

...

Simmons said the costumes -- which included black Under Armour-type clothing and tight black pants -- were creative. "It wasn't supposed to be offensive whatsoever," she said.

Using "spooks" also was not meant to offend anyone, she said. "If you would have seen them, you would have been spooked out. Most (students) don't correlate that term with the '50s," she said. "These are not the sort of people in any way who would discriminate against anyone."

JacQui?

ok, I feel like killing some racists right now

"Hamline University"

aka the Slavedrivers

"Spooks"? Is that term offensive in some way I'm not aware of? Unless you're CIA or undead, I guess.

Spook can mean:

* A female gecko
* An alternative term (Dutch, from Middle Dutch spooc) for a ghost
* A colloquial term for a spy
* Spook (band), an Australian trip hop band.
* A racial slur for a black person.
* A character from The Wardstone Chronicles

all five other options would make much better halloween costumes

i wish that i had gone as an australian trip hop band

america thanks you

"Spooks"? Is that term offensive in some way I'm not aware of? Unless you're CIA or undead, I guess.

-- Laurel, Monday, November 5, 2007 3:26 PM (Monday, November 5, 2007 3:26 PM) Bookmark Link

I take it you're not from Memphis.

I'm so baffled by the fact that you've never heard that one, Laurel!

"mehfss" xpost

I used to be a spook

Naw, not from the south at all, actually. Just working on my Tuomas impression.

No, never, Dan!

tom you were in the wardstone chronicles>???

and thought it was kind of weird that it could be slang for people in my profession and a slur at the same time, because I think I came late to the former definition. It was like getting used to being a dentist and you find out all dentists are sometimes also called chinkees or something

http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/h/hancoc_herb_spookwhos_101b.jpg

IT guys get called spooks? What do the black IT guys have to say about that?

haha no IT guys do not get called spooks. people who learn foreign languages while on the military's payroll get called spooks.

jaymc has incapacitated me, omg

lol, I actually applied to Hamline University, because my parents' friends' son went there. I got the impression when I visited, though, that I could do better.

I think that's the place that asked my dad to teach chemistry part-time. (Wherever it was, he said no.)

The closest I've come to that, tombot, is when at a summer camp spent at a local black university, I didn't call my highest card during a game of Spades.

Okay wait, is "spades" a problem too???

omg YES

I am tempted to list all of the things people have called me due to the color of my skin but that's probably not a good idea.

you could make up a list of nonsense and confuse the hell out of all these white ppl

"dinkin flicka"

THE WHOLE WORLD'S GONE MAD. I only guessed it was b/c the black teens are referred to as Spades in Absolute Beginners but I thought it was just a...group identification like the Teddy Boys or the rockers or the jazz freaks or whatever, and the book is profoundly anti-racist so....

My prediction for two minutes from now: Laurel suddenly has to rethink the name of her new band, the Jigaboo Crows, and their first single, "Chuckin' Spears"

omg

ow ow ow ow ow ow my sides ow

I lol'd

I have no idea what any of you are talking about now. (jk)

Whoa, even I knew "spooks" and "spades" are offensive words.

Guys I found this: http://www.rsdb.org/

It's kind of amazing! And really awful and wrong.

At least one of the above first brought to my attention via Sgt. Mauser in Police Academy, well before the actor who played him came to my high school to tell us not to use drugs

xpost TUOMAS BE RUBBING IT IN

holy shit that thing is big.

xpost

I have never registered either one of them used offensively in my hearing...or read it either, for that matter, b/c if it were pointed out in a book I'd probably have noticed it in over-heard conversations or something. Totally clueless. But also I hate all the Police Academy movies so maybe that's the problem.

I think "spook" is in To Kill a Mockingbird, or am I making that up?

man "wog" does a lot of work for three little letters.

"Special Meal / Jews / When a Jewish person gets a meal on a plane, it's from the kosher menu and a special meal not offered to regular passengers"

OR ALTERNATELY, EVERY VEGETARIAN EVER.

"Spook" figures bigtime in the plot of The Human Stain by Philip Roth

(xpost to horseshoe)

My uncle used to have a dog named "Spook".

Hello, I am not Abbot.

In regards to that racial slur link, they're making epithets out of phone prefixes now?

Freakin' 277437's.

Pork-chop | Portuguese | Sounds similar.

^^^^^ WHAT THE HELL

Some of the stuff on that racial slur list is pretty wild:

Jewbu = Jews = A former person of the Jewish faith who has switched to Buddhism(apparently there are many).

Jumbo Jaws = Americans = The great big mutant chins many Yanks have.

Big mutant chins??

Pork-chop | Portuguese | Sounds similar.

^^^^^ WHAT THE HELL

-- HI DERE, Monday, November 5, 2007 4:07 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

lol for real

Leprecoon / Blacks / Combination of Leprechaun and Coon for blacks of Irish descent.

o_0???

Interesting / Jews / Used by some upper-class Whites, especially females, when discussing men. "He's a nice guy. Is He...interesting?"

lol jokes on them I am boring as shit

starting to seem a bit like urban dictionary except with racial slurs instead of scat sex acts

hahahaa

"Americunt - self explanatory"

MacLord / Whites / Macintosh users, typically caucasians, are often haughty and arrogant much like English lords of Olde.

... ... ... riiight.

AA |Blacks | African American. Could also refer to double-A batteries, which you use for a while then throw away.

Okay. Maybe political correctness has indeed gotten a bit out of hand.

"Jewbu" sounds like an awesome no-mixed-fiber clothing line

I have heard Jewbu before.

I'm still waiting for "dos equis" -- my genetics-inspired slang term for women -- to take off.

BBK | Blacks | Big Black Cocks. Spelled with a K, as in the Korn song of the same title.

This is upsetting on several levels. Korn sang about my dick???????

this database reminds me of the "gang list" that our high school cop used to pass around. Was comprised mostly of entirely fictional gangs whose existence was gleaned from misreading graffitti

if a slur is posted on a message board, and no one understands what the fuck it's supposed to mean... is it still racist?

The existence of "BBK" also makes me look at "B2K" even more askance than I did before.

Yeah, that racial slur site needs to implement urbandictionary.com-style thumbs-up/thumbs-down voting.

Jewbu = "By us, for ... ah, what should we care who buys it?"

Ganesh Indians A hindu god.

I mean come on now, calling someone a deity is an insult?

Vacuum Cleaner | Blacks | Their noses represent a vacuum. Also used because they "vacuum up" much cocaine.

ok come on now

lol xpost with Shakey

Taro Polynesians They eat a hell of a lot of Taro. It's why they're so big

waht

SFA | Americans | Stupid Fucking American - not very clever, but very prevelent in Europe

So "prevelent" I've never heard about it.

Snob | Blacks | Blacks who can't afford cars and are always seen riding bikes: (S)illy (N)iggers (O)n (B)ikes

Er...

Etch-Indians-Some say their music sounds like etch-a-sketch.

ahaha

Yaku Whites 1960's Black Panther slang. Still used today

O RLY

(I mean wtf I've read a lot of BP stuff and never seen that anywhere)

Tuomas, in all seriousness, is "pekka" an offensive term?

My nose does not just "REPRESENT" a vacuum, semiotic racists

It does the work

Hahah wait wait, two out of the three slang terms for "high and mighty whites" are SCOTTISH SURNAMES. Like, because the English treated them SO WELL, they just couldn't wait to put on English airs?

Re: "snob" - you'd think using a derogatory word which also has a much more common, but totally different derogatory meaning would be kinda counter-effective.

Interesting / Jews / Used by some upper-class Whites, especially females, when discussing men. "He's a nice guy. Is He...interesting?"

guys, jame spears thread possibly racist?

Pineapple (2) Filipinos Pineapples grow there and they kinda look like pineapples.

do wha?

my favorite so far, for sheer wtfness:

Glass N****r Arabs If an atomic weapon were to go off, sand n****rs would become glass n****rs.

guys, jame spears thread possibly racist?

why because she look jewsh

Tuomas, in all seriousness, is "pekka" an offensive term?

I think Norwegians tell these Finn jokes, where the main character is always called Pekka, because that's a very common first name here. But few Finnish people know about this, so if you'd shout "Pekka!" to a Finn, you'd most likely get no response, unless he is actually called Pekka.

next anti-semite that calls me "interesting" gets a bloody nose

Pokemon	Japanese	They created that damn game

motivations of racist slur database compiler seeming suspecter and suspecter...

I love how this thing shows how slurs are really, really ridiculous and stupid.

(xpost!)

A Yanni, a Vanilla Ice, and a Pekka walk into a bar...

(I'm still boggling at "Pork Chop" btw)

Nineteens (19's) Blacks When choosing an exterior color for a Cadillac, a popular car amongst Blacks, the color code for black is 19.

Aha.

I think Norwegians tell these Finn jokes, where the main character is always called Pekka, because that's a very common first name here. But few Finnish people know about this, so if you'd shout "Pekka!" to a Finn, you'd most likely get no response, unless he is actually called Pekka.

That reminds me of this time I was in Mexico, visiting a friend and his family. I walked back to the apartment I was staying at, and their dog, Peluche, followed me home.

(Peluche is a term for a small fuzzy toy, something you'd get out of one of those crain machines.)

I get home and it's raining, and that damn dog wouldn't go back to his home. So I'm leaning out the window going "Peluche! Peluche!"

My friend comes down the street and puts his fingers to his lips to shush me. Turns out, peluche is also a term for a women's vagina, like "pussy" or "beaver".

So a gringo leaning out of a Mexican window calling out "Pussy!" to the neighborhood wasn't so great.

it's like the Wikipedia of racist insults

Watermelon (2) Guatemalans Words sound alike.

If I could change my username it'd be to Katzenfresser.

Dan, you need to see The Spook Who Sat By the Door. I saw it a screening of it with the director talking about the film before and after, a great guy who really got fucked over due to the fact that, back in the 70s, no film company would put out a movie about a black man inciting a race war and winning.

Err, actually it was released, but pulled rather quickly thereafter. S: Hilarious scene where they exaggeratedly reenact Gone With the Wind.

:-O

I probably should have used the word "parody" rather than "reenact". But yes, you must see.

Hamilton = Indians = Rhyming slang in Scotland from a Scottish soccer team called Hamilton Academicals. This is shortened to Hamilton Accies (Akkies) a derogatory name for Indians.

Um, surely Hamilton Accies is rhyming slang for Pakis = Pakistanis.

Anyway that is one hueg and scary list, even if it is occasionally wrong.

Further on it points out (correctly) that in the UK Pakistanis and Indians (and anyone else from anywhere near the Indian sub continent tbh) are all lumped in together as "Pakis".

Paki = Indians = Short for Pakistani. Often not derogatory when used. In The UK many Indians and Pakistanis have been lumped under the same term. It's *much* more of a slur to Indians

This is apparently more insulting to Indians than Pakistanis, presumably because they hate Pakis :)

Othello = Blacks = Refers to black men who only date white women. Reference to the Shakespearean play of the same title about a black man named Othello married to a white woman.

I wouldn't have thought your common and garden racist prick would have read much Shakespeare, even if Morpheus was in the film.

doesn't matter how well read your racist prick is...

"Gunga Din" was a foot soldier who raised the alarm despite him knowing it would lead to his certain death, and the poem was a tribute to his bravery, right?

jewbu /= a slur. more of a cutesy sub-sub-cultural or whatever term of identification.

like omg im such a jewbu and hes a jewbu and sheeees a jewbu....

I've never heard anyone actually say spook as a slur, only read it in detective novels.

^ Guys in Ellroy novels say it a lot.

haha I was just gonna post that. Ellroy's also fond of "shitbird", another slur I've never heard anywhere else.

I heard it in The Wire.
I'm surprised Pork Chop isn't better known. my boss is one and uses the term once in a while.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/06/ice.costume/

yeah, i couldn't decide whether to put that story on this thread, or the blackface one, so i chose the other.

lol yeah i posted that in the blackface thread. "originality" bit kills me.

haha you know dude was in a frat

"Spook" was used more in the past, but is kinda dated now, right?

Moreless.

It wasn't really all that relevant back in the day.

http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2007/US/11/06/ice.costume/art.myers.gi.jpg

Julie Myers, head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, called the man's costume "offensive."

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/biondino/artmyersgi.jpg

meh xpost

haha no thats much better

Myers was on a three-judge panel that originally praised the prisoner costume for "originality."

http://i21.tinypic.com/1z64lev.jpg

i didn't know that spade was a racist term.

its my understanding that in the 60s it was a "hip" way to say black dude

Another strong recommendation for "The Spook Who Sat By the Door." An incredibly unique movie.

"Spook" figures bigtime in the plot of The Human Stain by Philip Roth
-- Mr. Que, Monday, 5 November 2007 22:01 (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

If I remember correctly, wasn't this loosely based on the D.C. mayoral staffer who used the word "niggardly" in a speech to the press, and was fired for it?

Either way, The movie of "The Human Stain" is one of the greatest unintentional comedies in the canon.

its my understanding that in the 60s it was a "hip" way to say black dude

I remember being shocked the first time I saw "Withnail & I" when "I" says something about "the giant spade in the bathtub."

"Spade Cat" was indeed a "hip" way of saying "black guy" back in the sixties, It was fairly common in the UG press of the day, it was in all my old coupes of zigzag, oz etc.

Julie Myers, head of Immigration and Costumes Enforcement, called the man's costume "offensive."

fixed

So a black guy found the Maltese Falcon?

booo

Oh good, thanks re "spade", it's all over the MacInnes books, glad I'm not the only one.

boos from hoos :(

rly when i'm booing you gotta work on yr jokes bruv :D :D

If I remember correctly, wasn't this loosely based on the D.C. mayoral staffer who used the word "niggardly" in a speech to the press, and was fired for it?

I don't think so. But maybe?

That guy eventually got his job back, I think. They caved really stupidly to the initial outrage, but then they were confronted with even greater outrage from the "LOOK IT UP" contingent, so they swayed back.

Haha I was talking about that on some thread, long ago -- how the white fear of being called racist is largely self-enforced.

I think Norwegians tell these Finn jokes, where the main character is always called Pekka, because that's a very common first name here. But few Finnish people know about this, so if you'd shout "Pekka!" to a Finn, you'd most likely get no response, unless he is actually called Pekka.

Weird........

The shooter, who police named as Pekka Eric Auvinen, is in a critical condition at Toolo Hospital

If I remember correctly, wasn't this loosely based on the D.C. mayoral staffer who used the word "niggardly" in a speech to the press, and was fired for it?
I don't think so. But maybe?
-- Mr. Que, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 17:35 (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I swear I read this in a Roth interview, though I can't find anything to back that up. The timelines make sense.

Wait, wait, wait...many, many xposts....

hahaha look at me I'm wearing Abercrombie and eating mayonnaise and being racist and sucking everyone's dick."

Only white people eat mayonnaise?? I have NEVER heard this. Is this common knowledge?

Philip Roth's 2000 novel The Human Stain spun the tale of a light-skinned African-American who passes as Jewish, becomes a successful educator and is then undone in a political row after he refers to a pair of absent black students as "spooks". Perhaps prompted by the true-life case of civil servant David Howard (who lost his job when his use of the word "niggardly" was misconstrued as a racist insult), the book was at once a rumination on the American culture of self-invention and a ferocious assault on political-correctness that used the Clinton impeachment scandal as its touchstone. Robert Benton's well-toned adaptation is faithful to the letter of Roth's work, but a crucial ingredient is missing. There is no anger to the film at all.

Only white people eat mayonnaise??

I first heard that stereotype mentioned in the 1985 TV show "The History of White People in America, Volume 1," with Martin Mull and Steve Martin.

That's hilarious.

We better add "mayonnaise-eater" to that list of slurs.

Also, aren't Italians sometimes called "bread-eaters?"

I eat Miracle Whip.

meanwhile,

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/07/halloween.flap/index.html

the fun bit:

Missouri Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill said Wednesday that she has placed a temporary "hold" on Julie Myers' nomination for the job of assistant homeland security secretary for immigration and customs enforcement until Myers answers questions about the party, including why photographs of her with the costumed employee were destroyed after questions were raised.

oh please oh please oh please let those photos of her with the originality dude be leaked or surface on TMZ or wonkette or someshit.

Also, still laughing that this is CNN's default photo of her:

http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2007/POLITICS/11/07/halloween.flap/art.myers.gi.jpg

and again:

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-compton-cookout,0,2673438.story

We will be serving 40's, Kegs of Natty, dat Purple Drank- which consists of sugar, water, and the color purple , chicken, coolade, and of course Watermelon. So come one and come all, make ya self before we break ya self, keep strapped, get yo shine on, and join us for a day party to be remembered- or not. "

http://dss.ucsd.edu/pipermail/socfac/2010-February/000214.html

wow

dat Purple Drank- which consists of sugar, water, and the color purple ,

this is a direct reference to a chappelle stand up bit

just came to post about this

I want to throw a party like this where the partiers are greeted with a room full of stern-faced, polaroid-weilding black folks.

haha

xp ie more or less the reason chapelle gave for quitting his show lol. also serves as a legal disclaimer. these guys are just sharp

amaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing

I want to throw a party like this where the partiers are greeted with a room full of stern-faced, polaroid-weilding black folks.

― soft serve space age blap (The Reverend), Monday, February 22, 2010 12:32 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

would really for this to happen btw

oh sweet god i just made the mistake of reading the comments thread for this on a news aggregator

highlights:

* stop coddling black ppl, getting upset by this stuff is actually MORE racist
* this is just lampooning ~ghetto~ culture, not ~black~ culture, white ppl drink 40s too, you know!
* no one gets upset when ppl have white trash parties!
* wake me up when there's a WHITE history month

etc.

and it gets even more fucked up and ugly:

http://www.racewire.org/archives/2010/02/noose_found_in_ucsd_library_and_the_compton_cookout_fallout_continues.html

what the fuck is going on -- this happened today at my school

To the MU Community:

In today’s early morning hours, a disheartening and inexcusable act was committed on our campus when cotton balls were strewn at the front entrance to our Gaines/Oldham Black Culture Center. Those guilty of this despicable action have not yet been identified, but MUPD became involved immediately and is conducting an investigation.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/photos/2010/feb/26/11793/

^^ I am trying to formulate a thought about this

Or maybe it's a question: do you think whoever did that PURPOSEFULLY picked something kinda arcane and symbolic, so that the act would seem more harmless to lots of people? Or are they pansies who enjoy hate speech but are afraid to be more forward about it? Or what?

yeah i'm not sure -- i would go with the latter tbh. it came off as an odd choice to me too but i was thinking that of all the racist symbols you could pick, cotton is probably the easiest to acquire

stay classy San Diego!

yeah, and is technically like "littering" instead of vandalism or a violent threat

which I guess one should be happy about, but part of me is like ... "if you wanna make racist threats, at least step up a little"

i just don't even know what the motivation behind this kind of thing is -- if it's to be "funny," you kind of immediately fail because no one is going to come out and go "yeah i thought this was funny" & obv if you aren't taking credit for the act i'm not even sure where the gratification comes from. isn't that the point of a prank? if the person is actually racist, then i would say that this is a pretty lame expression of those beliefs. it's certainly not couched in the same sort of motivations as "ghetto" parties

c'mon racists, get your act together!

ha, yeah, I really should just be happy that racists are expressing themselves through soft, fluffy, harmless things here, and not encourage them to step up.

j0rdan, isn't the motivation pretty much ... humiliation? I mean it's more or less just racial bullying -- exercising power by trying to demean, insult, and maybe frighten someone else. so we can be sensible people and say we don't see where the fun or satisfaction is with that, but we sort of do know, probably.

I wonder who had to pick it up, in the end

One MU police officer attempted to pick up the cotton balls and throw them away, said sophomore JaNeé Harrell, who said another student told the officer to leave them.

Weimer said the officer had collected some of the cotton that was being blown about by the wind, but he stressed there was no effort to cover up what had happened.

“Typically with vandalism, one of the first things you do is clean it up,” he said, noting that officers had already taken photos of the display.

The cotton should be left in public view, “so every black on campus can recognize the hate crime,” Harrell said. “Every minority on campus should be offended, just as whites should be embarrassed.”

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/editorials/la-ed-ucsd2-2010mar02,0,4102439.story

Days after the cookout, the editor of the Koala, a campus publication known for mocking Muslims, Latinos and Asians, appeared on the university's student-run TV station to defend the event. While on the air, he referred to offended black classmates as "ungrateful niggers."

Damn, I knew that the Koala was pure shit, but that's insane.

Nearly all of The Koala's writing is intentionally politically incorrect. The paper has made fun of/attacked every race, ethnicity, religion, group, people with disabilities, sex, and sexual orientation, as well as recent national tragedies. No subject is taboo, and the The Koala made jokes about the September 11 attacks within days of the event. The paper also celebrates a hedonistic lifestyle including the use of alcohol, drugs, and pornography.

http://stopracismucsd.wordpress.com/2010/02/20/update-ucsd-frat-student-mike-randazzo-delta-sigma-phi-just-posted-an-event-invitation-for-a-compton-cookout-part-ii/

When the first Facebook page was taken down, a student put up a second page in objection (Compton Cookout Part Deux: First Amendment Pride)

this fucking guy

Compton Cookout Part Deux: First Ammendment Pride

Recently, the UC Council of Provosts, several students, legislators, and the media, have all publicly condemned the recent PIKE-sponsored “Compton Cookout”.

The FACEBOOK EVENT page for the party is what started this horrendously misguided call to arms, and has people ignorantly shouting racism, intolerance, hate, and that this party invitation was “a mockery of black history month”.

As I have facilitated and attended hundreds of parties associated with UCSD students, I have never been to a party that was not a mockery of something. Additionally, parties are an innocent outlet for any kind of stress, and an arbitrary theme, satirizing some aspect of our cultures, is extremely commonplace for college parties. On Cinco de Mayo, we have parties making fun of Mexicans; on Veterens day, we make fun of veterans (yes, the same veterans who uphold our rights to free speech); on St. Patrick’s Day we make fun of the Irish. Everyone gets made fun of out of jest now, not hate.

This is not an issue of black or white. As a UCSD student, and even though I was not at this party, it is obvious to me that NO ONE INVOLVED IN THAT PARTY WAS PREACHING HATE, and when we observe the public reaction, it feels as if we are watching a bunch of children hurling canned PC responses at Stephen Colbert for being offensively conservative. DUH!

This is barely even an issue of free speech, because, like I said, no ideals were being preached, just passively and innocently mocked for the sake of having an excuse to eat delicious fried chicken and watermelon and drink malt liquor, which are all awesome things.

The inane email sent out to all UCSD students about this mentions that “thinking members of our community” should feel insulted, and despite the fact that said email was sent purely to save face and to appease the social requirement for a puritan display of delusionally misplaced compassion, as thinking members of the community, we should all be insulted at this overt assault on the civil rights of these students to free speech. If you truly care about civil rights, and you don’t just want to preach intolerance to cultural satire, then come to this party in honor of your favorite cultural stereotype to satirize and show these IDIOTS that intolerance is so 20th century, but coming together peaceably for the purpose of fun and unity is still very much in style.

So come get crunk with yo Peoplez, roll through with the Vatos, Crackers bring your favorite sister, get sandy with the Arabs, get Chinky with some saki bombs, throw up your fauxhawk with the Douchebags, get piss drunk with the Irish, come soaked in cologne with the Ginnys, bring some cheap wine with your Jew homies, get stupid like the Polish, pound vodka with your Russian friends, love humanity and embrace cultural differences through satire.

Don’t let ignorance and stupidity get in the way of our good time and let us set a precedent before this gets out of hand. We all must stand behind our fellow students. It would be nothing short of a tragedy for any students to suffer any punishment for what they wrote on a facebook page. We cannot allow this. The time for quelling this is now before it happens to you. We support Pi Kappa Alpha’s attempt to harmlessly make fun of those who would sincerely harbor disdain and resentment for another culture. We must always stand up for our rights and the rights of others, lest they be stripped from us.

This is barely even an issue of free speech, because, like I said, no ideals were being preached, just passively and innocently mocked for the sake of having an excuse to eat delicious fried chicken and watermelon and drink malt liquor, which are all awesome things.

kid apparently doesn't know the difference between "civil rights" and "civil liberties"

can imagine "throw up your fauxhawk with the Douchebags" being quite popular

People defending their "right" to be assholes and who end a sentence with "DUH" while doing so are the most disgusting savages of all.

A crudely fashioned, KKK-style hood was found atop a Dr. Seuss statue at the University of California San Diego late Monday, the latest in a string of race-related incidents that have roiled the campus in recent days.

I didn't think it would be possible to get angrier about the way these dumbfucks are behaving.

Juseus fucking christ.

I'm so mad I can't even accurately take the lord's name in vain.

this is the point where you start expelling ppl

get Chinky with some saki bombs

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Racist incident ?? You want a RACIST incident ??? How about 98% of black Americans voting for Obama....That is racism...That is an elephant standing in the middle of the living room and everyone seems to be mute & muzzled over the huge pile of dung in the room by political correctness ...Yes folks, it stinks..

come soaked in cologne with the Ginnys,

I have no idea what this means

anyway yeah Dan OTM - expulsion required

kris gregorian is the editor dude. angling for a job at vice i guess?

I believe it is a misspelling of "guineas."

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What's a big deal about noose?
People of all races use it to commit suicides.
Why don't you get over it & move on with your lives instead of wasting my time taking up the news segment!
Bunch of losers!

"...has people ignorantly shouting racism..."

How about 98% of black Americans voting for Obama....That is racism...

So...so...very...confused...

even though the student who hung the noose self-identified as a minority, I am very glad she got suspended because that shit was STUPID and inflammatory and really not all that well thought-out

I hope she is enjoying her consequences

the black people didn't vote for the white guy! how dare they!

xp

the editor of the Koala, a campus publication known for mocking Muslims, Latinos and Asians, appeared on the university's student-run TV station to defend the event. While on the air, he referred to offended black classmates as "ungrateful niggers."

Is there video of this?

kris gregorian is the editor dude. angling for a job at vice i guess?

I'd like to see their Armenian Genocide issue.

it was broadcast on a closed network and no-one could find the tape afterwards, but did reportedly find a sign in the studio that said "Compton lynching"

I'd like to see their Armenian Genocide issue.

I lol'd

the fuck is going on in the UC system? you see all this stuff written down in one place, and, damn

http://www.feministing.com/archives/020247.html

i now that correlation doesnt imply causation but lets not forget that the UC system isnt allowed to use "racial preferences" in its admissions thanks to king asshole ward connerly and the delightful 'proposition' system

so maybe one explanation as to what the fuck is going in the UC system is that black students are making up smaller and smaller percentages of the student body as a whole

okay so UCLA is the only school I'll consider sending my kids to, then

seems like a place where theyd feel v. welcome and at home, assuming that you and your wife adopt white babies and teach them to hate black people

Berkeley is relatively ok, imo, hi dere. also, note that the UC-Irvine students were merely protesting an Israeli ambassador-- that would only count as hate speech if one was a rabid Zionist, which in itself is hate speech (imo), so Irvine is safe.

that said, fuck UCSD. fuckin bane of the system.

Baby, don't ya go, don't ya go to Goleta
Baby, don't ya go, don't ya go to Goleta
Baby, don't ya go, don't ya go to Goleta
Baby, don't ya go now, don't ya go

I've been there and I've seen them drinkin' now
Thinkin' all the time that they're going to school
Well, maybe some day they might learn something
But being fascist rich kids just ain't cool

Baby don't ya go, don't ya go into Westwood
Baby don't ya go, don't ya go into Westwood
Baby don't ya go, don't ya go into Westwood
Baby don't ya go now, don't ya go

I've been there and I've seen the styles they wear
Their haircuts down to their clean white shoes
Don't you know baby, that it's all a facade,ya know
Intelligence is not something you should avoid

Baby don't ya go, don't ya go to La Jolla
Baby don't ya go, don't ya go to La Jolla
Baby don't ya go, don't ya go to La Jolla
Baby don't ya go now, don't ya go

I've been there and I've seen their attitude
They don't like folks who are not like them
Maybe someday they'll take a vacation, like some flight over to Europe
to take a nice cruise in the Mediterranean, but it's very likely that
on the way over they'd be hijacked by some terrorist group seeking media
approval, they'd be in a really bad situation, in danger of their lives,
but they'd be thinking "They can't do this to me, I'm an American Citizen"

Babe, why don't ya go, why don't ya go somewhere else?

in all honesty I can't say UCSD ever crossed my mind as a place where I'd send my kids to school, so that's not too big a loss, and UC Davis got crossed off the list after watching some stupid MTV fraternity/sorority show a few years ago

my cousin and her (former NFL Pro-Bowl) husband went to UCLA and they liked it enough that he went back there to coach (although I just read that he's leaving...? wtf @ my family not keeping in touch with ppl)

I love UCSD campus. Very good friend did her grad school there and I worked there for a few years and it was gorgeous, in my opinion. But I didn't interact with the students much.

You want a RACIST incident ??? How about 98% of black Americans voting for Obama

This meme needs to die. John McCain & Sarah Palin are classless pandering idiots and that's why they lost the election.

get sinky with some chaki bombs

I know this is overly broad but I basically can't be bothered to even go back to San Diego ever again much less defend UCSD.

I mean the whole, "JOKES, BRUV" attitude of everyone involved just makes it seem like a bunch of kids who grew up on 4chan went to college

I will totally rep for my alma mater UCSC as a tolerant place - random bathroom graffiti notwithstanding. (fwiw UCSC was a MAJOR center of PC-think/speech in the 90s)

San Diego is pretty fucked up in general tho

dunno when you graduated shakey, or when your cousin did, dan, but the makeup of the student body in the UC system (and to some extent its politics) has changed a lot since prop 209 passed in the mid-90s

not that UCSC is like a klan convention or anything. but ive heard nothing but shitty things from friends abt the general atmosphere of race relations at UCLA and UCSD

I mean the whole, "JOKES, BRUV" attitude of everyone involved just makes it seem like a bunch of kids who grew up on 4chan went to college

Thats probably not all that unlikely, is it? I fear the day when these idiots ever have any real power though.

Like the elephant in the room is that this all sounds less like the old-fashioned "HATE" of the klan and more like insensitive, moronic, internet-era "TROLLING."

Everyone on the right side of this argument is just lumping this stuff into hate-speech, and the message that THIS IS WRONG doesn't get through to these fucking idiots because they're not fratboys filled with "hate" per se, just dipshits enamored with the idea that playing with stereotypess and watching people go ballistic is funny

ie, "we're not HATEFUL, we just like saying 'chinks'"

UCSC's college system resulted in a weird ghetto-ization even when I was there in the early 90s (ie, majority of black students were at one college, asian/pacific islanders at another, etc.) It was weird but it was kinda the result of their being individual colleges within UCSC that focused/centered around specific disciplines. and given the identity politics of the 90s, it was no real mystery as to why the majority of black students, say, would gravitate towards living at the college that housed the african-american studies dept.

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i think as much as prop 209 the p drastic increase in tuition for the uc system has made those school a lot less diverse & kinda helped populate the schools w/ lol racists

yeah thats true as well

btw they arrested the two dudes who dropped cotton outside the black culture center at my school

this is a little broad and pessimistic, but frankly i think we're seeing the leading edge of a big backlash wave of racism in this country. i'm not gonna be like an innocent white kid saying the 90s or 00s were a paradise we're in danger of losing, but you barely have to scratch any kind of surface to see this shit. my impression is that racist energy is running extremely hot right now. maybe i'm naive.

There is a lot of OTM in what Whiney says, but I think the problem is that following through with that argument misses the "your actions have consequences" correctional measure that would teach these idiots that being racially offensive is not in and of itself funny.

also my cousin and her husband graduated in the late 80s so I would be shocked and amazed if the school hadn't changes since then; I was just noticing that UCLA didn't have an incident listed in that blog post more than anything else

also I completely agree with goole

MU incident was v. weird in light of getting this on Feb 11 from SLU:

Fellow Students,

I am compelled to communicate with you in regards to some issues that have occurred on our campus this year, particularly some very recent incidents.

Since the start of this academic year, multiple bias motivated incidents have been reported and at least one hate crime has occurred on our campus. SLU students were the victims, and their offenders were other members of our SLU community. In the most recent incident, a fellow student, while in their Village apartment, was disturbed, and after a verbal confrontation was threatened to be lynched. This was not a threat made by a member outside of our community; this was made by another student that we acknowledge as a member of our SLU community, who was subsequently arrested for his actions. In other incidents, less threatening but equally heinous actions have taken place. SLU students have dealt with the word “nigger” being written on their white boards in Griesedieck, they have been confronted with swastikas as they try to go about their daily routine, and various other discriminatory actions take place more than any one of us would like to admit.

btw they arrested the two dudes who dropped cotton outside the black culture center at my school
Yeah this shit was seriously stupid.

Speaking of which, I heard this on npr last night and was like o_0

Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa expressed shock over allegations that three teachers at a South Los Angeles elementary school encouraged students to celebrate O.J. Simpson, Dennis Rodman and RuPaul during Black History Month.

The teachers have been suspended as the L.A. Unified School district investigates. According to officials, children at Wadsworth Avenue Elementary School were carrying pictures of the men at a parade Friday on the school playground.

not to play cap'n-save-a-UC-system but asians outnumber whites when you look at the entire undergrad system (and at UCLA & Berkely). kinda moved beyond solely a black white thing a long time ago obv. and yes, people of any race can have fucked up attitudes but the implication that UC is becoming whiter just ain't true, becoming less black is unfortunately, although i thought the dramatic drop after the new admissions thing came into law has improved somewhat.

uh what's wrong with Dennis Rodman and RuPaul? (OJ's a little more questionable)

tbh there's really nothing wrong with celebrating pre-murder OJ, pre-retirement Rodman or RuPaul during Black History Month

yeah i dont think prop 209 is to blame in the sense that white kids took a huge majority on campus or anything (since they didnt)--i just think that having v. small populations of black kids is conducive to this kind of behavior

xxp

i think the problem is mostly in the environments these kids are coming from before they hit college, i don't think that when the black % drops from 10 to 5 the racists feel emboldened but maybe that is how it works??

that IS kinda how it works tho. if no one's around to tell you that shit isn't acceptable, stupid people start thinking its acceptable/"funny" etc.

^^^^ otm^a bazillion

i think the kids in their own peer group not telling them that racist shit is bogus is the more of a problem, not that people from other races aren't around to police them when they want to act out. although i can see that being a factor too. and the reason that their peers aren't doing that is because they are kinda fucked up with their racist shit too.

i think the problem is mostly in the environments these kids are coming from before they hit college, i don't think that when the black % drops from 10 to 5 the racists feel emboldened but maybe that is how it works??

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well i think that having a 5% black population as opposed to a 30% black population means there is going to be a LOT less pushback against these ideas and "jokes" just on a day-to-day hanging-out-in-the-dorms level. so yeah the environments they come from are a problem, but its a problem that college has an opportunity to correct (and often does), but cant if there is a smaller population of underrepresented minorities

i think the kids in their own peer group not telling them that racist shit is bogus is the more of a problem, not that people from other races aren't around to police them when they want to act out.

hey either source works (altho obviously the latter will carry more authoritative weight)

well 30% would make a huge difference but these campuses were never anywhere near that

THIS IS WRONG doesn't get through to these fucking idiots because they're not fratboys filled with "hate" per se, just dipshits enamored with the idea that playing with stereotypess and watching people go ballistic is funny

the aesthetic is more 'chan than klan but that disregards the dangerous levels of contempt these degenerates have for the minimum level of conscience or civility that a heterogeneous society requires, especially among its elite

hey either source works (altho obviously the latter will carry more authoritative weight)

I don't think that's all that obvious, frankly; someone who looks like you calling you out on your shit can be much more effective than someone who doesn't look like you conforming to your preconceived notion of them as overly sensitive whiners.

ultimately my attempts to find a solution to this involve throwing my hands in the air and looking for a bat

ultimately my attempts to find a solution to this involve throwing my hands in the air and looking for a bat

goth to the bitter end

sounds more like Naughty By Nature to me lolz

is ucsd still an undergrad school for kids who don't get into ucla

not enough black people reaching for bats, look at mlb rosters these days if u don't believe me

ucsd was pretty hard to get into when I was in high school in the late 90s. it was the 3rd hardest uc to get into after berkeley and ucla.

just dipshits enamored with the idea that playing with stereotypess and watching people go ballistic is funny

OTM. Alot of it is them emulating "edgy" post-2k stereotype-based racial comedy trends. But doing so outside of a Comedy Central special, it ends up unfortunately lacking in ironic distance.

whiney otm basically, but also i think their whole "we make fun of everyone!" excuse is bullshit. you can't, for example, claim that being offensive to the irish is the same as being offensive to blacks or muslims considering that irish people in this country basically embrace and themselves celebrate every lucky charms boondock saints potato cliche you can throw at them and make it their own. anyway this all reminds me of shit like "the amazing racist" or bad standup comedians or whatever.

UC undergrad requirements include 3 courses in arts and humanities, and 3 courses in social and behavioral sciences. i see no reason why at least one of those 6 courses can't be a mandatory course in contemporary race relations, with a focus on prejudice and discrimination. i don't think the (largely socioeconomically advantaged) freshmen classes' sense of entitlement, thoughts on what a "post-racial" society is supposed to imply, and attitudes regarding the mysterious phenomenon known as "reverse racism," etc., are properly challenged in a formal setting.

i think nakhchivan is otm about generation youtube shithead's lack of conscience and civility, and whiney's otm about their conflation of morality with the right to free speech. but because i'm sure the regents would never agree that "ethics" (for lack of a better word) is a appropriate/practical addition to a logic-based curriculum at a public university system like UC (or for that matter, a science and technology curriculum driven research instition like UCSD), they'd be better off tailoring one of their required humanities courses to actively encourage the kind of intelligent dialogue that these cotton ball/koala incidents demonstrate a need for.

i think tbh most white folks crack race jokes to each other in private and outta sight and it's all...well, i dunno about totally harmless, but it's this thing that's done. it's bullshit but it happens. i think what's creepier about shit like this is that it's a manifestation of people being just simply *outraged* that their manifest destiny of being about to crack racist jokes is being infringed upon, god forbid, so they're gonna take it to the next level and do shit to folks' faces.

they're not being "serious", not in the way that the KKK is "serious" (even though they're a joke too), but they're coming from a place where they don't know what it feels like to hear that shit. i've never heard an irish joke that offended me in the slightest and someone could call me a dumb mick and i'd think it was pretty funny because it's just so stupid and clumsy and my particular group isn't perpetually in the crosshairs anymore. takedowns are funny when you're not feeling like you're being taken down a little bit from all around all the time. i dunno. assholes all around imo.

one reason why the internet sucks is it trains people to be able to say things to others without any consequences whatsoever and maybe this is the tip of the iceberg with regards to that? i guess this was already theorized upthread though.

exactly, and we're gonna see a whole lot more of this re: IRL trolls

I'm surprised kids of today aren't more circumspect when everything is recorded for all time and can haunt them forever.

That goes back to my "people don't understand consequences" point.

xpost -- This is because they're still kids.

What is the internet equivalent of a punch in the face?

it used to be goatse, now i think it's either 2girls1cup or 1guy2fish

tbf, no video has surfaced of the KKKoala guy saying the n-word on tv

xp That's progress!

1guy2fish...? no I don't even want to know

yes you do

It ends badly for the fish

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okay internet

2 million jokes 0 ideas

now if you would excuse me this dog in sunglasses won't caption itself

loooooool

langley??

oh, that one doesn't have a "guy" in it.

whew.

I haven't watched, but aren't these usually full grown adults making these disastrous-for-future-employment-or-membership-in-polite-society videos?

What's most annoying is the way they try to turn genuine hurt and outrage at thier 'shenannigans' into their own victimhood.

well, you see, they are freedom fighters, modern day freedom fighters fighting for the freedom to prove to the humorless, unnecessarily defensive mainstream masses that equality - true equality - is achieved only though lightening the fuck up already, god

i love that argument model:

cf person calls for banning of gay marriage (or whatever), those affected say it's intolerant and ask for the freedom to do what they would like, first person comes back with argument that by not being allowed to ban gay marriage or make others feel low, he or she is being persecuted and therefore those who are affected are actually the intolerant ones.

Life, liberty and the pursuit of lols

we're through the looking glass here people

we've been through the looking glass for like 10 years now

oh postmodernism what hast thou wrought

it's pretty amazing how arguments that everyone making them *knows* are disingenuous and false manage to catch on.

"therefore those who are affected are actually the intolerant ones."

Okay so the anti-gay CatholoMormon coalition is balls out nuts, but is that really their position?

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I'm willing to bet the hood was left by a black student. Anything to start a new pity party and to try to get more benefits while trying to stomp all over whites. And the noose? Honestly, where did the idea that only blacks have ever been hung come from? How is a noose racist? Are nooses supposed to have some magically ability to tell what a person's ethnic background is and kill them ONLY if they are black? Gotta love liberal 'logic'. Hey, maybe blacks could get more respect if they quit playing the race card all the time. I mean, if race shouldn't be an issue, why throw it in everyone's face?

don't look at the comments here if u value sanity

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100303/ap_on_re_us/us_black_history_mock_party

liberal 'logic'

i've given up on reading comments sections on news articles, i think the only ones that are sane are stories about orphaned puppies being adopted by cows and even those will have folks clowning "hussein" obama

first person comes back with argument that by not being allowed to ban gay marriage or make others feel low, he or she is being persecuted and therefore those who are affected are actually the intolerant ones

Considered starting a thread on this recently, specifically after someone posted that they asked a guy to stop talking at a (Brian Wilson?) show and the guy said that he had waited 30 years for the show and it would ruin his evening not to be able to talk loudly through it, but also because that whole "people who believe in evolution should be more open-minded and admit that anything that is not the literal word of the Bible is false" thing is seeming way too prevalent lately and makes my brain itchy

someone posted that they asked a guy to stop talking at a (Brian Wilson?) show and the guy said that he had waited 30 years for the show and it would ruin his evening not to be able to talk loudly through it,

Wow.

at this point I think it should be culturally acceptable to kill that person

(show etiquette fyi)

Dan, that's a little extreme, no? Tie him up and gag him, sure, or maybe drug him into a voiceless stupor, but death, really?

I don't know. Anybody who loudly proclaims their god-given right to ruin hundreds of other people's evenings are pretty much disgusting savages beyond saving.

LOL @ guy who thinks black people hoard KKK hoods to get sympathy. Do schools still teach about slavery & Jim Crow laws? Cos unless the answer is "no" then this guy just needs a long series of black eyes and some missing teeth.

x-post. I can't read this thread anymore today it's making me sick.

I can't even wrap my head around that. I mean, obviously if a black person did that, it is because they are accusing the school of supporting/encouraging/breeding racism, not because they wanted to scare ppl into feeling sympathy for black students. It's like, how can you possibly be that stupid?

Comments sections have revealed that really, Americans can be v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v v fucking stupid.

http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_14513307

I don't agree with this dude on most politics but am with him about 50 - 75% of the time on race relations; he is OTM here (even with the Family Guy mention, which I thought was funny but recognize was also offensive).

kinda feel like the aggrieved high minded tone of the institutional pushback against this shit is giving these fools way too much credit - instead of all the hand wringing abt heinous acts itd be more appropriate imo to be all these are the acts of a bunch of idiotic jerks who never shouldve been let out of elementary school much less into a place of higher learning

p much

"Btw, thanks for derailing my expensive higher education w/idiotic tomfoolery, whiney chicanery and thoroughly bankrupt ideas."

kinda feel like the aggrieved high minded tone of the institutional pushback against this shit is giving these fools way too much credit - instead of all the hand wringing abt heinous acts itd be more appropriate imo to be all these are the acts of a bunch of idiotic jerks who never shouldve been let out of elementary school much less into a place of higher learning

sure, but i don't think the institutional pushback (for whom these lil campus subcultures ultimately speak, in the administration's eyes anyway) is content to just throw up their arms and concede that "jerks'll be jerks" when they have the opportunity and the power, and some might argue an obligation, to design and deploy an actual ~fix~ to the institutional racism that doesn't seem to be going away

er, didn't literally mean institutional racism, meant casual racism that has become an "institution" among the 4chan generation

yeah i was just talking abt the rhetoric, these students should be compelled to at the v least attend some how to not be a gaping asshole classes

this type of shit is common macho frat boy bullshit, unfortunately. i saw ddudes do this when i was in college and it made me sick then. and that bit about white people crackin racism-jokes behind closed doors mentioned above type of shit used to make me and my crew cringe. i mean i am thinking of a small group of guys who were basicly under developed minds bred to be neo-conservatives at a liberal arts college.

er, didn't literally mean institutional racism, meant casual racism that has become an "institution" among the 4chan generation

I don't know if this issue was discussed further upthread or not but I've noticed that too. What would be interesting to know is how much of the rhetoric is coming from real racial hatred and how much is naughty schoolboy humor just trying to get a rise out of everybody.

But it seems like just in the last few years you see all sorts of anti-black slurs and humor on the internet (in message boards, commments sections, etc.

It's not that I don't understand the distinction that's being made here -- race hatred vs. race "trolling" -- but there comes a point where being willing to do racial "trolling" requires a level of contempt for the people you're hurting that's pretty similar to every other kind of racism.

yeah that kind of race trolling is basically race hatred of another sort.

stfu drunk mick

yeah, there's a distinction but if you're game for the troll it requires a level of meanness, or a certain lack of empathy.

Going along with the schoolboy sense of humor thing, some people are casually blasphemous because they have a serious dislike of religion, institutions, Christianity -- and then there are people who think they're being hilarious or edgy-funny if they draw an obscene picture with Jesus in it, just because it's offensive.

xpost to nabisco

http://billblogdurant.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/irishdeclaration.jpg

LOL

http://makkah.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/no-irish-need-apply.gif

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/dre1013l.jpg

losin' me lucky charms over here

wtf i happening itt? one second condemning the next second glorifying thru img but sub irish for whatever else? ddudes- o forget it

its ok cause i said 'micka'

lollin up the power structure = fair game, lol on champ
lollin down the power structure = everyone hates you, asshole

my younger brother goes to ucsd

it's a commuter school w/ 23,000 undergrad students - it's impossible to make generalizations about a student body that's so large and spread around san diego. it doesn't have many activities on campus or a real college culture. it doesn't even have a widespread greek system really, so 'all ucsd students are like these racist fratboys' is silly on a lot of levels. when I think ucsd student I think 'asian bioengineer who studies a lot and doesn't have a social life'

most vile racists of all iirc

is ucsd still an undergrad school for kids who don't get into ucla

ya

when I think ucsd student I think 'asian bioengineer who studies a lot and doesn't have a social life'

u shld hang w/ ur brother a little more tbh

pity party

anyone that habitually uses these words is almost 100% likely to be an ignorant moron. swear i heard it a ton in high school, and it was always from ppl who got a lot of tough-love, social programs are for PUSSIES, why don't we have ~white~ history month anyway shit at home

its funny cause by invoking the complaint pity party u r basically throwing yrself one

I'm having a pity-party...anyone want to come?

http://comptoncookout.com/

who the fuck is this jiggaboo jones dude? I want his eyes gouged out.

mother of god...

The claimed perpetrator of the event, as he certainly was of a similar, obnoxiously-titled earlier event.

This narrative is not as convenient as the white-frat-boy one.

It doesn't actually change a single fucking thing IMO.

Fraternity Gang Rape: Sex, Brotherhood, and Privilege on Campus

A classic. Fraternity Gang Rape is a fascinating analysis of how all-male groups such as fraternities or athletic teams may create a rape culture where behavior occurs that few individuals acting alone would perpetrate. The new introduction and afterword shed light on how this pernicious problem continues today, insightfully illuminating the complicity of society in the failure of accountability for acquaintance rape.”

that post where someone says "Dave Matthews is the soundtrack to an drunk 'ironic' frat rape" to thread!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/01/27/state/n074441S28.DTL&tsp=1

SFGate comments never failing to bring out the trolls.

Also amusing in a not racist party way:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/01/27/state/n050426S19.DTL

Update on the progress going on at UCSD:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/feb/25/e-mail-reignites-ucsd-racial-tension/

well the comments on that are a treat

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcd1kr8Kfq1qfgutjo1_1280.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aAbOgdbTbM

haha

cube otm

A parent came to my child's elementary school Halloween carnival dressed as a "witch doctor" with darkened skin, afro wig, fake bad teeth, and shrunken heads. She won the award for best parent costume.

jfc

Yeah, I couldn't believe it. Multiple people mentioned her costume and how great it was and each time I was standing there with my mouth open in disbelief saying "uh... that's kind of racist isn't it"?

well if she's was being michelle obama then it was topical

did she mentionned diablo 3?

http://m.gawker.com/5965719/penn-state-sorority-holds-mexican+themed-party-proves-once-again-that-mexican+themed-parties-are-a-bad-idea

Penn State Sorority Holds Mexican-Themed Party, Proves Once Again That Mexican-Themed Parties Are a Bad Idea

...Instead of, say, a toga party, or whatever it is kids in Greek life like, the sorority went with the old Mexican fiesta theme. All the members decided to wear ponchos, sombreros and mustaches, and two women held signs, one of which read "Will Mow Lawn for Weed + Beer" and the other "I Don't Cut Grass, I Smoke It." And now the fun costume party is officially a racist costume party....

http://m.gawker.com/5981941/outrage-at-duke-over-fraternitys-asian+themed-racist-rager

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18dqt53qmtnvkpng/medium.png

Oh hooray, my campus has this now

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/26/uc-irvine-blackface-video-fraternity_n_3162657.html

holy shit

I was wondering why the news trucks were here this morning.

http://www.cherwell.org/news/topstories/2013/04/26/freshers-black-up-at-st-hughs

bop?

mmm

It's posh people, they are different from nornal people

bop = party/disco held in college, kind of like a frat party but with underdeveloped chins

xp to caek's infinitely more amusing response

"bop" is Oxford-ese for a college party or social event, usually organised by elected student reps and held in e.g. the college bar or common room. fancy dress themes are common bcz how else do distinguish your specially-organised night of going to the bar and drinking from what students do every other night anyway?

"Our experience is that such acts are not uncommon around the university; it is likely a product of the way students are taught to imagine other cultures - as foreign objects and topics for consumption."

I know this is prob totally obvious to many here but I hadn't seen it put quite like that before and it strikes some chords w/ my own middle-class whitey mcwhite childhood and education (though I am - ugh - nearly twice as old as a university fresher now)

Well this seems to be the general fraternity vent thread so perhaps this should go here:

http://www.theatlantic.com/features/archive/2014/03/the-dark-power-of-fraternities/357580/

Everything you ever wanted to know about fraternities, litigation and alcohol-related accidents or worse, via Caitlin Flanagan. The emphasis is actually mostly on the litigation/insurance front, which is part of what makes it interesting.

these guys need to cool it with the binge drinking that's for sure. should i go on a speaking tour? i'm confused about what to do with my celebrity.

Speak from the heart.

i want to... but first i need to learn how to listen to it again.©

http://bwog.com/2014/02/23/mixer-mix-up/

http://i.imgur.com/vbXoqBP.jpg

Paul Deen should have had the Columbia panhellenic council handle her damage control.

I like the socks of the douche on the right

Those dudes need a "Spraaaaaaang Braaaake forever" moment to set them right

Tattoos are totally banal in 2014, aren't they?

the dude on the left's right arm is twice the size of his other arm.

http://www.independent.co.uk/student/news/cambridges-racist-may-ball-proslavery-song-heard-at-launch-9208811.html

not a racist party but good riddance to this piece of shit fraternity at ga tech: http://nique.net/news/2014/04/04/osi-disbands-phi-kappa-tau-for-continual-violations/

What the fuck?

they should really just ban all frats at the school for like twenty years

Fun Police: “[redacted] and [redacted] get drunk and crash…[redacted] subjected to two hours of gay sex…kissing involved.”

Just came across this collection of "Racist Antics at Colleges and High Schools":
http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/05/11/individual-racism-alive-and-well/

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/08/university_of_alabama_chi_omega_sorority_racist_snapchat.html

It never fucking stops through.

http://gawker.com/frat-suspended-for-clemson-cripmas-party-in-wake-of-f-1668222467

http://newsfeed.gawker.com/texas-frat-defends-racist-border-patrol-party-it-was-1684639720

"It is never Texas Fiji's intent to alienate or demean any ethnic group."

human beings are dumb as rocks

Why didn't they have a Fijian themed party?

The best part of these stories is going to the student newspaper's coverage where lots of future frat-party-lawyers give some truly brilliant arguments. I think they've really opened my eyes to my OWN hypocrisy!

In the comments, that is.

otm, the real racist, c'est moi.

Not a party, but uhhhh. Looks like OU administration has reacted swiftly, but, Jesus Christ.

good start. now close every other frat

Same assholes everywhere amirite

^ same sort of collective blame that racists employ maybe u are the real racist

actually on reflection ur not the real racist it's those frat assholes

Carrying on their proud legacy:

The fraternity had fewer than 400 members when the Civil War began. Of those, 369 went to war for the Confederate States and seven for the Union Army. Seventy-four members of the fraternity lost their lives in the war.

While many Sigma Alpha Epsilon Chapters today claim that Noble Leslie DeVotie was the first person to die in the Civil War, this is in dispute. DeVotie lost his footing while boarding a steamer at Fort Morgan, Alabama, on February 12, 1861, hit his head and drowned. His body washed ashore three days later. Because Alabama had already seceded from the Union in January of that year, DeVotie is viewed by many to be the first casualty of the war. He is recognized as such by the state of Alabama.

bang up job, reb

He Shall Not Grow Old As We Who Are Left etc

Same Assholes Everywhere was the go to phrase of derision for SAE at my university.

At my school they were famous/infamous for allegedly having a parental income requirement of at least 6 figures for any prospective pledges. Their house was a huge stone mansion.

a parental bennies requirement as well?

All prospective pledges must file a prospectus and the appropriate disclosures with the securities and exchange commission

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/09/waka-flocka-flame-cancels-university-of-oklahoma-concert-_n_6833832.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000047

Good for waka

https://twitter.com/WesleyLowery/status/575361868367290368

but that’s not the situation here, where the speech wouldn’t have been taken by any listener as a threat against him or her.

uh that's a weird conclusion to draw

So weird to see the backflips trying to paint OU as the bad guy in this situation.

well it's gross but totally predictable

Local theater fires employees who yell 'fire' during a show.

How dare these theater monsters infringe on free speech.

won't anybody think of the wites

I wish I had the patience to explain to all these idiots the difference between a supposed free speech violation and consequences resulting from exercising free speech, but I don't think it would matter anyway.

God bless video cameras.

some are seizing on the 'state funding' of the college as why they can't expel the kids tho I dunno that explanation is satisfying.

What I'd be interested in knowing is how long that chant has been floating around the fraternity anyway. It hardly seems like something these guys just spontaneously made up. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into a frat that is very proud of reminding folks (especially on their website) that they were founded in the "deep South".

Some nuggets from the "About" section:

Of all existing national social fraternities today, Sigma Alpha Epsilon is the only national fraternity founded in the antebellum South.

The fraternity had fewer than 400 members when the Civil War began. Of those, 369 went to war for the Confederate States and seven for the Union Army

Those two expelled dudes are sad and sorry, y'all.

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2015/03/jesuit-dallas-president-says-graduate-appears-to-be-leading-racist-chant-in-ou-sae-video.html/

Funniest bit:

“At this point, all I can do is be thoughtful and prayerful about my next steps, but I am also concerned about the fraternity friends still on campus. Apparently, they are feeling unsafe and some have been harassed by others."

Hmm...ya think?

http://gawker.com/umd-opens-investigation-over-frat-brothers-racist-miso-1691495319

"prayerful"? lol/wtf

UCLA stepping up.

http://laist.com/2015/10/08/ucla_kanye_frat_party.php

I HATE frats and their stupid racist parties, but the chinbeard on the one chick is obviously sporting Kanye's goatee and the girls with the smears of makeup on their face were wearing a "gold digger" themed costume.

http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/V7sezN638oO_S7RuyMPA6A--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztxPTg1O3c9MzAw/http://globalfinance.zenfs.com/en_us/Finance/FIN_AHTTP_ETFDB_LIVE/PD-Gold-Miner3-300x199.jpg

it appears we may have reached Frat Party Racism Degree Zero:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/11/02/students-accuse-yale-sae-fraternity-brothers-of-having-a-white-girls-only-policy-at-their-party/

(story appears to be still developing/'under investigation', but obviously something like this is too juicy to pass up)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/10/us/citadel-pillowcases/index.html

http://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/images/shows/south-park/clip-thumbnails/season-1/0107/south-park-s01e07c13-cheap-bastards-16x9.jpg?

not a fraternity but close enough

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/San-Francisco-students-suspended-over-racist-6790881.php

Currently going down at my university:

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/western-university-condemns-students-repugnant-take-on-black-lives-matter-slogan-for-homecoming-bash

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/und-declines-punish-students-posted-racist-snapchat-pics-article-1.2821378

University of Oregon levels up to professors attending Halloween parties in blackface.

http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/34948743-75/uo-law-professor-dons-blackface-at-party-uo-president-michael-schill-denounces-the-choice.html.csp

It's racist as it is, but

A fellow UO professor, who declined to be identified, said the offending professor meant her costume to depict “Black Man in a White Coat: A Doctor’s Reflections on Race and Medicine,” a recent autobiography by Dr. Damon Tweedy that recounts the racism he encountered in medical school.

really racists up the racist level for this one.

what kind of fucking party is this where ppl would get that purported reference?

i guess professor party but still

this is killing me:

On many Halloweens, on a campus somewhere in the United States, somebody decides to go to a party in blackface, provoking outrage.

Also I feel like this professor saw Bamboozled! the week before Halloween and was like "AHA THE PERFECT COSTUME IDEA"

really glad that I'm working from home today so I could really laugh at that comment

http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/34952433-75/uo-law-faculty-members-seek-professors-resignation-in-the-wake-of-her-blackface-halloween-costume.html.csp

man her colleagues are PISSED

white privilege is basically being able to make $160,000 as a teacher sending students into the American legal system and not having to ever know blackface is bad

Outsider773 hours ago
Nancy Shurtz please hang in there and fight this lynch mob. I suspect ... [yada yada justification]

a.chick52 minutes ago
Pretty ignorant to use the use the metaphorical term "lynch mob," considering the context.

Outsider7732 minutes ago
Actually, I think it is pretty much on the mark. A bunch of self-righteous individuals who want to professionally destroy (kill) another person for having a black face.

uh

when u look at it like that

I didn't know why I kept going back to that article to stare at the picture until I realized: "Frank N Furter jheri curl"

yesterday i saw the godawful "Sausage Party" which was pretty much this thread non-stop

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nazi-hitler-halloween-costume-kentucky-dad-apology_us_5bd647f8e4b055bc948d56cd

the intolerant left run amok!!

High school rather than college.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/newport-beach-students-make-nazi-salute-during-swastika-drinking-game

I have been looking for this for so long: Bump this thread whenever another fraternity gets caught throwing a racist party

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