Eddie Murphy and his new movie.

NB obviously my mom said that stuff earlier in Murphy's career, not in reference to stuff like Daddy Day Care or anything. Though I think she might still feel that way about certain aspects of stuff like The Nutty Professor. But she has a very high bar on this kind of thing -- I won't go into it, cuz this thread should be about Eddie Murphy, and not my mom. My mom rules, let's not drag her down.

I want to take the same line -- you know, why can't Murphy make fun of a specific comic type here, it's not a representation of all black women -- but representations of black women in stuff are often so bad, and so often in this particular mold, that this one looks really awful to me. And even asking "would you be bothered by this setup if it were white people" doesn't help, because if it were white people I'd probably be grossed out by scenting misogyny in it, or just awful juvenile dumbness. Combine that with the public image / stereotypes of black women, and it's just ... I can't imagine laughing at this character.

So yeah, I don't have a well-formed argument for why I'm suddenly not defending this kind of humor anymore, but I'd think it'd be really visible from the trailers why this is the film that treads past my comfort zone.

This man wants a word with you:

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Norbit, starring Eddie Murphy, and also based on the life of New York City teenager Khalid Bennett, details the life of Norbit (Eddie Murphy), an African-American male who was abandoned as a baby on the doorstep of a Chinese restaraunt, the Golden Wonton, owned by Mr. Wong (Eddie Murphy). Mr. Wong later converts the restaurant into an orphanage and raises Norbit. During elementary school, Norbit was bullied by a mean and obese child Rasputia (Eddie Murphy), who later became his girlfriend.

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C'mon, Ken, if Stone Phillips is googling himself, I totally want him up on this thread.

(J, yes, and that's like 90% of the explanation for why my mom prefers nice depictions of black Americans and does not so much go in for down-and-dirty Af-Am humor.)

otm.

But at least I can spell Yo La Tengo.

If they ever started routinely giving Oscars for broad comedy (Kevin Kline's supporting win for Fish Called Wanda and Lee Marvin in Cat Ballou are the only two I can think of --significantly, 'serious' actors doing slapstick instead of Chaplin, Groucho, Lewis, Steve Martin), there are about ten I'd give retro Oscars to before Eddie in TNP. (ie, his Buddy Love, and all the farting, were duds.) But this looks worse than anything in that cuz the fatness is just one nonstop aggro punchline.

maybe he shoulda played all the Dreamgirls.

xpost yeah not claiming "amorous obese woman" is in any way new as a punchline, though I'm not sure I like the way "black" has been casually pushed into this equation over the past decade or two; I'd be happier if fewer than a half-dozen "gross-out" comedies used "large black woman" as one of the "gross" bits.

fuck Thandie Newton. all she does in the preview is look at Eddie-Murphy-as-fat-woman like she's disgusting. she didn't have to take the damn role.

1. "Your wife scares my kids, Gus!"

2. the dinner scene from the first NP movie

Cf. Jabba the Slut in Deuce Bigalow

Horseshoe, that's the thing that's amazing me -- why would Thandie Newton take this role? Maybe I slept through part of her filmography, but has she ever done stuff on this level before? (Also I have to admit it's a little weird cuz usually a movie this dumb would cast a boring "hot chick" in that place, whereas Newton has that slightly strange / brittle / elegant / dramatic look that got her cast as, like, Beloved, for god's sake: she is just SO not who I would expect in this movie AT ALL.)

xpost Morbius, umm, CRASH??

uh, he's been doing this at least since Coming to America...? I dunno this doesn't look any worse than his usual crap, ie, more squandered talent in a never-ending bid to be the black Jerry Lewis

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Hahahahahahahahalololoroflsroflsrofls! Right? Um, Hello?

http://www.cinema.com/image_lib/3948_miaamberdavis_thumb.jpg

haha, reminding me of the best line:

Eddie: "Hello America!"

Cabbie: "Hey, fuck you!"

Eddie: "Yes! Yes! Fuck you, too!"

Cutty I barely remember the Nutty Professor dinner scene, but yeah, I'd say the only difference is that the comedy is way broader. But the problem with that is that when comedy gets broad it tends to get back toward obvious stereotypes, and if you go too far into that you start to get annoying. I don't remember being annoyed at all by the Nutty Professor scene, but this new one gets at me a little.

old guys shooting breeze at shop = normal comic character types
Klump dinner = broader, lazier comic character types*
crushed on bed by amorous obese woman = come the hell on, dude

(* = note how they also serve as, say, Chef's parents on South Park, etc.)

Well I'm the rapping granny and I've been told
That Cutty's little theory is box-office gold
Break it down

Ethan?

Thandie was in "The Chronicles of Riddick" and "MI:2"! Homegirl will do anything when the cable bill comes in.

This movie looks horrifyingly funny to me, basically like everything the "Big Momma" movies were supposed to be but couldn't reach because Martin Lawrence isn't as charismatic an actor as Eddie Murphy.

(xpost: NABISCO YOU SHOULD HAVE LINKED RAPPIN' GRANNY FROM AMERICA'S GOT TALENT (BUT NO THIRD JUDGE, LOL AT BRANDY))

(One credit I give to Murphy is that at least he pulls off movies like this as just weird comedy cartoons, instead of using some FBI / jewel-thieves framework to explain why someone's pretending to be a granny / baby / whatever.)

Um, and how was?

And that's my Eddie Murphy story.

-- latebloomer: crapness 2 the Nth degree (posercore24...), Today 11:03 AM. (latebloomer) (later)

you-a an italian-a stereotype?

This dude?
http://www.interstatetheatres.com/gala/images/filmmaker/jleydon.jpg

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (soto.alfre...), Today 11:07 AM. (Alfred Soto) (later)

how long do you keep merlot in your nose?

No, but I did a take a one a few years ago, but that's how my--how you say?--Eddie Murphy story goes:I learn abouta film fro the guy who's got da quote on de Pluto Nash box.

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Yup.

Dude, everyone noticed!

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/chi_guy_80/Urkel.jpg (nsfw)

(also i don't even know if there are actual fart jokes in this movie but if i paid for a ticket and there weren't i'd be disappointed)

That's totally SFW.

(except me)

the larger issue of course is why does every "desirable" african-american woman in films have to be light-skinned? the casting of thandie newton really stood out to me for that reason.

also how is that murphy has managed to keep his true sexual preferences hidden for so long, aside that one gotcha moment?

he seems to be pretty unbothered about it possibly because he's mostly (or "romantically") interested in women with the occasional (or frequent) exploration elsewhere. Bowfinger contains a massive "yeah so what?" reference to the tranny incident ("so what" in terms of Murphy happily playing the scene after his arrest, not for the character in-film), and after his wife left him the other year for having a DL bloke living in their granny flat, he didn't bother going into damage control mode - even when he wound up rooting Scary Spice later on, it was her people that went for paps and publicity on the relationship. it's plausible that he doesn't identify as anything other than hetero-normative, just thinks of dicking dudes in dresses as something he does for fun sometimes.

or possibly just he's rich as Croesus and doesn't give a shit what anyone thinks! (or possibly he does so many multi-role fatsuit shit-coms because he's really tortured about his identity and has mad issues about how he presents himself to the world)

I think doing a lot of fag jokes early in yr career inoculates you. (see Raw)

He also plays a Chinese fellow in Norbit who talks like Mickey Rooney in Breakfast At Tiffany's.

I looked up George Carlin's seven dirty words that you can't say on television and, sure enough, there was the outline for the gags, narrative, reason for being, you name it, of Eddie Murphy's Norbit: Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker, and Tits. ... Norbit loathes fat people, Asians, women (note the two girls who really, really want to get turned out by Eddie Griffin's pimp archetype), and black people most of all. I guess this is meant to soften the misanthropy, except it doesn't really matter that the perpetrators of the screenplay are Murphy and his out-of-work brother Charlie--catching this coattail now after Dave Chappelle rolled up his--if the director is a white guy.

http://www.filmfreakcentral.net/screenreviews/norbit.htm

this movie was so bad that the pimp schtick with Katt Williams, perhaps my least favorite famous person in the world these days, was actually relatively tolerable.

http://www.avclub.com/content/files/images/EDDIE!.jpg

Directed by Eddie Murphy
Produced by Eddie Murphy
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Written by Eddie Murphy
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Starring Eddie Murphy
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-- and what (ooo), Monday, January 29, 2007 3:22 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

I don't even know what to say.

Hello?

Has this guy had top billing in any remotely watchable movie since Nutty Professor?

Bowfinger

Bowfinger (1999)
The Nutty Professor (2000)

Also, I can't tell if you mean that The Nutty Professor was remotely watchable, but...no. It's not.

YEARG. Nutty Professor II was 2000. Sorry.

Never question my authority, Oilyrags.

Somewhere in Birmingham, Alabama recently

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He used to be so funny. Subversive and edgy and funny. Now he isn't even remotely funny anymore. What happened?

eddie murphy head on wheels is pretty funny!

Was it somehow referential to Lionel Ritchie's head?

Tell me that it was on its way to the Vulcan statue.

while he was funny i tried to watch Raw the other day for the first time in forever and found it pretty unwatchable. lol fags, lol mr. t, lol dated humor

"The Eddie Murphy starrer opened to an embarrassing $1.7M Friday despite playing in 3,011 theaters for what is expected to be only a $5M-$6M weekend."

Following his divorce from Mitchell, he dated Spice Girl Melanie B or Melanie Brown, who became pregnant and stated that the child was Murphy's. When questioned about the pregnancy in December 2006, Murphy told a reporter, "I don't know whose child that is until it comes out and has a blood test. You shouldn't jump to conclusions, sir". Brown gave birth to a baby girl, Angel Iris Murphy Brown, on Murphy's 46th birthday, April 3, 2007. On June 22, 2007, representatives for Brown announced in People that a DNA test had confirmed that Murphy was the father. Brown has revealed in an interview that Murphy will have nothing to do with Angel

From Eddie Murphy's Wiki Entry. What a jackass.

Wiki is really vague and cryptic, BTW, about what Murphy's sexuality:

In May of 1997, Murphy was stopped by police with a transvestite prostitute in his Toyota Land Cruiser shortly before the release of Holy Man, a situation which subsequently caused public relations problems for the star. He was arrested and spent a day in jail.

I vaguely remember he had some excuse for why he was in a car with a transvestite. Were they actually caught having sex? Couldn't be, I guess, since that would have obliterated his (already weak) excuse.

Bill Corbett on the whole thing:

http://blog.rifftrax.com/2008/07/10/meat-dave/

i think eddie was saying the tranny hooker was stranded on the street and he was being a good samaritan by giving him/her a lift.

he was being a good samaritan by giving him/her a lift.

with what?

You can be a freaky-deeky and do data entry!

didn't he blatantly say he often cruised around giving money to wo/men who looked like they could use a handout or a friendly ear to unburden their woes to, or did I just pretend he did to amuse my friends at the time?

"He used to be so funny. Subversive and edgy and funny. Now he isn't even remotely funny anymore. What happened?"

I don't think there are that many comedians have made much money at that young an age and yet still kept on their game years later. If there is one, I cannot think of a name.

Beyond that, a big part of Eddie Murphy's humor was in being able to do imitations. When you have been loaded beyond all imagination for years, other than making fun of Hollywood stardom and its trappings, which did work in Bowfinger, what else does the guy really have to create material out of?

i'm still kind of obsessed with Bowfinger

Why couldn't he had a cocaine overdose sometime in the mid to late 80s? Really?

The weekend's other new movie is turning out to be a total flop. Paramount's "Imagine That" earned just $1.8 million on its opening day, meaning the Eddie Murphy family comedy will earn around $5 million through Sunday.

Imagine that.

I remember a while back he said something about doing only family fare movies until all his kids were old enough to see anything R-rated (which sounds like a dumb excuse for making crap movies). Not counting the one he had with Mel B, how old is his youngest kid?

http://ochmonek.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/meet-dave-promotion.jpg

oh I see it has been posted above from a different perspective

Can't wait to see Eddie's masoleum.

Directed by Eddie Murphy
Produced by Eddie Murphy
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Written by Eddie Murphy
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Starring Eddie Murphy
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Distributed by Eddie Murphy
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Language Eddie Murphy

― and what (ooo), Monday, January 29, 2007 1:22 PM

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/why-is-eddie-murphy-in-cinematic-exile
richard brody wrote about norbit this week:

His most personal work, “Norbit,” a psychodramatic outpouring of bile, pain, conflict, and sheer comedic invention, which Murphy starred in and wrote, deserved to be hailed as a masterwork. Instead, critics treated it like a plague. It’s hard to imagine the effect that the tin-eared, hard-hearted, grotesquely oblivious reviews had on Murphy, who, despite the brazenness of his comic persona, may well be as sensitive to public insults as any sentient human.
(...)Norbit” was widely reviled for its caricatures; little attention was paid to Murphy’s own self-caricature, to his own confessional sense of weakness and of evil, of oblivious self-interest and awkward sentiment, of the desire and capacity for utter otherness. I was, frankly, shocked by Murphy’s portrayal of an elderly Chinese character, Mr. Wong—but all the more shocked because I didn’t realize, until midway through the film, that the character of Mr. Wong was, in fact, being portrayed by Murphy. His performance as Rasputia, an abusive spouse who is obese, was criticized for its mockery of a fat person, though the portrayal emphasized, painfully, the character’s cruelty and indifference. (The name alone suggests that she’s a caricature of evil incarnate.) Rasputia’s actions and attitudes, not her physique, render her repellent and ridiculous.

even if you think norbit is some unsung comedy classic you have to admit that there's a ton of sight gags about rasputia being fat in it. maybe brody didnt rescreen it before he wrote about it and forgot that there's a whole setpiece where she goes down a waterslide and the whole joke is that there's a big fatty in a bikini on the waterslide. and a gag where norbit tries and fails to pick her up and carry her over the threshold, followed by rasputia almost suffocating him by being on top during sex and breaking the bed. etc. etc other scenes that i dont remember because theyre not on youtube.

Wow, that read like it was ghostwritten by Armond White.

it seriously reads like a white parody that hit too close to the real thing

His most personal work, “Norbit” ... deserved to be hailed as a masterwork

His opinion is strong and well-defined, but his argument in favor of it is weak and unpersuasive.

more like richard brodie

i like the idea of a movie like norbit being secretly brilliant. i don't think it is the case with norbit.

I often try and imagine Tower Heist: The Lost Movie:

Your original idea for Tower Heist would have been a very different movie: an all-star cast of black comedians playing inept thieves trying to rob Trump Tower.
Yeah, I wanted to get all the funny brothers on the scene – me, Chris Tucker, Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock and Martin Lawrence and Tracy Morgan – and do a movie together, like I did on Harlem Nights. I still want to do something like that. I have this idea called “Jamal and Tyrell and Omar and Brick and Michael’s Wack-ass Weekend,” about this group of guys who get abducted by aliens on their way to the fights. I’m writing that now.

was it kevin hart on seinfeld coffee thing said it, anyways, those guys get together for dinner and drinks every now and again and apparently murphy is 100% no question the funniest guy in the room and everyone knows it

all this century, profiles on ppl who hang out with him say that he's always working on jokes and trying material with friends, he's just too rich to be arsed to ever go in public

per his NY Times interview last week, the Dolemite movie is a prelude not only to his SNL hosting but a return to standup. Always thought his career highlights were SNL and Nutty Professor, but if he's "mushier" in the standup (he says his old AIDS material was "ignorant") it might work better than 35 years ago.

He apparently just announced that Beverly Hills Cop 4 and Coming to America 2 (no joke) will precede the return to stand up. Which means when those two films are inevitably poorly received, he will go back into seclusion.

Looks like someone's accountant took his hand off the wheel for a little too long, huh.

"return to standup" was broadly hinted at in his Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee (where he and fellow bajillionaire Jerry made fun of homeless people)

not interested unless hes doing a boogie in your butt 2020 reprise

feat The Weeknd

the only eddie murphy i really like is his adlibbing in the first beverly hills cop.

likely not doing that "herpes simplex" swish again

the dolemite movie actually looks good imo

I might watch this. I know too little about Rudy Ray Moore, and Nathan Rabin is doing this huge, ongoing series on Moore's films right now over at his site.

how much does one REALLY hafta know about RRM

the dolemite movie actually looks good imo

part of the Scott & Larry Biographic Universe

‘Dolemite is my Name’ is as good as the hype suggests. Murphy hasn’t been so watchable since Bowfinget and must be in with a shout of the Oscars.

Rex Reed could not have said it more blurbily. But what was good about the movie which caused you to draw these punchy and quotable conclusions?

i give it five bags of popcorn and mark my words oscar will recognize eddie murphy for his performance in this movie

(i haven't seen it)

To continue the blurbage, this year's best actor slate at the Oscars is going to be almost impossible to crack.

it's great to see Eddie Murphy back on the screen, it's been awhile

the BIG screen, that is

Murphy embraces the vulgar joy of Ray Moore and brings him to life showing the hustle and rage which drives him to success. It’s a classic ‘let’s do the show right here’ movie, with the supporting cast equal to Murphy ‘s outsize performance.Not a huge surprise that it was written by the ‘Ed Wood’ writer as it shares the same underdog dna.

You really are Rex Reed, aren't you?

I haven't seen a Murphy pic since Bowfinger, but it seems likely this is his best since. Alexander & Karazewski flex their usual gift for condensation and using exposition to draw character. Without pressing the point the way they or Burton did on Ed Wood, the film warmly captures the feel of a creative community of people overburdened with neither talent nor confidence coming together with an enthusiasm that comes through in such a way as to bring the audience into that same collective sensation.

Moore himself isn't the sole beacon of confidence that Wood is in that film. He finds success in boosting the confidence of others, from stealing the Dolemite rhymes in an alley to dime-switching into other people's suggestions the second he can tell they have ideas better than his.

It's a shame that Netflix only gave it a token week's run for the Oscar nomination: it's so much about collective experiences, and packed with so many punchline moments, that it could have built word of mouth over several months of a slow roll-out. Watching it in the largest house in a black neighbourhood with about ten people scattered through the theatre, the laughs stayed isolated and let the movie play almost as an inspirational drama with an odd tone. (And knowing that outside of these seven days in a few cities, plus LA, it will only be seen on TV screens made me think it could have been more appropriately structured as a three-part miniseries, fitting in some of his early chitlin' career and an afterglow of the first movie's success.)

As well as Murphy, Wesley Snipes is also giving his first entertaining performance in two decades. He should gte an agent for comedy bit parts immediately, instead of DTV actioners.

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Xxpost you got it. Where’s my cravat?

rex reed would 1) alliterate more 2) call a woman ugly

I understand Netflix is averse to issuing physical media of their product, which is why I may never see this or Roma.

enjoyed this

cosign brad's (and guessing turkington-ish) review on the film. surprise at how short it was, could've gone another hour how well murphy commanded the film.

As well as Murphy, Wesley Snipes is also giving his first entertaining performance in two decades. He should gte an agent for comedy bit parts immediately, instead of DTV actioners.

He's gonna be in the upcoming Coming to America sequel alongside Murphy.

That was a great movie.

too bad the Wendy's that portrayed McDowell's was torn down. but I see that they are filming in Atlanta anyway.
Coming to America is a really great New York movie and truly hilarious, not very hopeful the sequel will be any good.

loved Wesley in this and yeah was great to see Mr Murphy wielding his talents in something decent again

challop: i have never liked eddie murphy's stand up or acting in anything. will try the dolemite film i suppose

ah snap i didn't realize this was Craig Brewer

this ruled

The scene where he jumps off the balcony naked is actually from Dolemite 2: The Human Tornado, right?

yep, favorite from college
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raplinC5tEI

This was fun.

Fuck. Yes.

Murphy brought it. It’s so great to see him do something with so much heart, that’s so funny & genuinely touching. The whole cast on point, Snipes had me howling, everyone just crushing it. Send up thankyous to Rudy Ray Moore for living the life that made this great biopic possible. Goddamn I loved this so mucb

This is me in like 60yrs 😂😂😂 #DolemiteIsMyName #dolemite pic.twitter.com/qljJgko7sZ

— Jordan Cann (@mrjordancann) November 4, 2019

_THIS MOVIE_

RIGHT!?!?

Amazon prime has the original dolomite movie right now.

Why was Tituss Burgess in this? He has one line about liking prison sex and that's his only characterization.

All the enthusiasm makes me think I should finally watch this.

News that Beverly Hills Cop 4 is still a go, and goin straight to Netflix, makes me less enthusiastic about Murphy.

It's fun.

Reminded me of Bowfinger in its enthusiasm for crap, but the enthusiasm isn't cynical.

Why was Tituss Burgess in this? He has one line about liking prison sex and that's his only characterization.

― wasdnuos (abanana), Saturday, November 16, 2019 1:05 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah the gay jokes seemed pretty archaic. seems like the part was written for the actor, though i don't know much about the IRL Theodore Toney

it's a natural fit for eddie murphy to play a person with tons of enthusiasm and not nearly as much talent.

If anything, Eddie has a ton of talent but often little enthusiasm.

Tituss is here to hear Eddie's pep talk in the limo and sigh "okay" and make us all cry.

_THIS MOVIE_

Dolemite is the funniest I've ever seen him in a film aside from Nutty Prof.

bcz he's a greater talent than Rudy Ray, he's better at doing RRM's comedy doggerel than Moore was.

The happy ending is more organic than Ed Wood's, since RRM was ultimately a success,

how does it stack up next to Undercover Brother? do they mention his stint as driver of Huey “Piano” Smith and the Clowns?

wait Snoop Dogg and Tituss Burgess are in this too?

Snoop for like a minute at the beginning

I remarked on our former poster KJB's page that this film isnt ED WOOD because the movie in it was part of a fecund movement headed by people with something political at stake

one of the Bihari brothers looks like Steve Cropper.

I don’t think it compares to Ed Wood really at all in specifics, if anything it’s just in a very loose handwavey “misfits coming together to create something” way

Between this and killing SNL i feel like I am
in some kind of fever dream like DUDE. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?!

like this shit was honed and precise, it has that feeling that he’s been sweating this for ages
but somehow avoided overworking it which is exciting that that instinct still exists, or that he can take advice to pull back etc whatever the case may be

and then i am simultaneously terrified that it all goes away again *poof* with Coming To America 3

Snoop for like a minute at the beginning

more like a couple, and he returns briefly.

I expect Bob Odenkirk is the only actor in both this and Little Women.

I know there were temporal liberties taken -- there are scenes from later films rep'd as part of Dolemite, eg the ceiling-crashing fuck -- but I wonder if they went to see Wilder's The Front Page.

iirc Karazewski said they made that up

wondering if the Tituss Burgess character is some kind of proxy

Heard an interview with the Karazewzki’s where they described Murphy hiring them bc he is a huge fan of the Ed Wood movie, and when they first met him he immediately started acting out his favorite scenes and routines from it.

ah, interesting!

nb this was in like 2001, he probably doesn't still have the movie memorised

(also nb that afaik only one of the Karazewski's is a Karazewski, although I am into either labelling both of them with the name that requires slightly more concentration, or the idea that one of the the brothers dropped his surname in order to succeed in Hollywood but only writes as part of a team with his brother, who retained it)

^ roll the latter into

part of the Scott & Larry Biographic Universe

― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, October 4, 2019 10:21 AM (two months ago)

Lol oh yeah - after hearing them on some podcast for 90 minutes I totally started thinking they were brothers for no apparent reason

I'd probably sooner rewatch this than any of the other movies I've been shotgunning for end-of-year.

this was lovely, really enjoyed how uncynical it was

even the loan shark dudes are lovely

I really don't want to see Eddie turn Rudy into a workaday egg salad sandwich.

?

i like egg salad

sulfuric a few hours later

There's some really funny bits and I found some of the earlier parts engrossing, Snipes was fun, but there was just more and more familiar biopic beats that ultimately spoiled it for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcd0df7jwpM

Looks like another winner!!!

stern eddie in those glasses is v enjoyable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpAf_QrxtpA

actually, that looks funny. won't be, because nothing is funny, but at least it looks funny.

Have trailers always been so … long?

(I know trailers have tried to give you a précis of the film for too many years now, but.)

It's kind of the tl;dr of promotion.

Watch some trailers from the '80s, though. They pretty much show and describe the entire film, with narration.

I have no particular beef with Jonah Hill but I just don't like looking at his face, there is something uncanny valley about it, the facial hair seems all wrong

Jonah hill has been aiming for Matthew mcconaughey cool the last several years but looks like he landed halfway between ron jeremy and guy fieri.

I think it's more of a "Michael Rapaport cool" and you know what, I think he got there

this is just "Trailer #1"... they have more that they want to us to see

i’m a big fan of Sam Jay and i hope she got to hang out with Eddie making this movie, is about the extent of my enthusiasm

We Got Christmas Movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9d2G3l3UO4

eddie is great on kimmel, he seems so comfortable & jimmy brings the 80s stories out of him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_5-Alp62IY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBG3iyr5N70

Do we pretend II and III never existed? I'd like that.

Well, that's easy enough to do.

I was listening to NPR the other day, and they were talking about some new Eddie Murphy movie called "Candy Cane Lane." I figured it would be a bridge to some other subject, but no, they stuck with that movie. And I kept wondering: why? Just seems like another Eddie Murphy pseudo-family film.

I mean this looks like the worst Netflix garbage so file with II and III

And I kept wondering: why?

Why did they say they were talking about a new release Christmas movie in the second week of December?

Eddie ran out of comedic ideas long ago. He's sold his reputation so many times it's all used up, too.

xpost Yeah, but why *bother*? There is no law that every shitty Christmas movie needs to be talked about on NPR, though sure, if you're going to talk about a shitty Christmas movie, probably best to do it around Christmas.

to be fair, all a watchable Beverly Hills Cop movie needs is Eddie Murphy and the Axel F theme... and this has those.

like, has anyone watched the original film? the plot is tissue-thin and nothing Axel does is even a little bit plausible, it's a movie operating on 100% charisma and awesome synthesizers

I watched that Axel F trailer and was like, I am absolutely never gonna see this… and then saw the Netflix logo at the end and suddenly realised I will probably actually watch it. Or at least 15-20 minutes of it.

doot doo doot doo doot doot doo

15-20 minutes is iirc about the length of that interminable ferris wheel sequence in III.

Fletch is the same thing, it's just Chevy Chase and Harold Faltermeyer going hard for 90 minutes

I think everyone gets that about the original lol

Have you seen the much worse sequels?

Like I hate to break it to you but there are films that meet the criterion “has Eddie Murphy in” that aren’t good

it isn't a guarantee but it means the new one has covered the basics of a good Beverly Hills Cop movie

and the first three Beverly Hills Cop films are in my carefully curated Blu-Ray library, yes

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he got a lot of goodwill back with dolemite is my theory here

Beverley Hills Cop II was my first R-rated film. my friend’s dad took us

i remember nothing about it except that the entire experience was thrilling

II has the scene where Gilbert Gottfried really <became Gilbert Gottfried> in the eyes of the public at large.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv7Ui4z-ga0

like, has anyone watched the original film? the plot is tissue-thin and nothing Axel does is even a little bit plausible, it's a movie operating on 100% charisma and awesome synthesizers

A high concept that's right there in the title + loaded soundtrack = the 80s math of producer Don Simpson.

I liked You People quite a bit and thought Eddie was especially good in a deadpan/"humorless" way.

watched Candy Cane Lane tonight with inlaws and while it was too long by at least 30 minutes and slowed way down in the middle, it was kinda fun and a nice xmas watch w family

David Allen Grier as Santa was kinda worth it.

oh but trigger warning: nick offerman does an EGREGIOUS “shine yer shoes guvnah” english accent that is just pure wtf

Yeah, this was quite enjoyable and probably too damn long. Eddie was in good form and worked well with Tracee Ellis Ross and the youngest daughter. Chris Redd stole all of his scenes.

Still, these two sketches are the best Eddie Xmas things since Trading Places or his "Mr. Robinson's Christmas" sketch from '84.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxVXYp2KIeE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBqvPvMfr0E

They did a sequel to the latter sketch with Kate McKinnon last week, and it wasn't as bad as it could have been.

They

IT DONT MATTER WHAT MY NAME IS

What the fuck happened to Judge Reinhold's face?

It's like he hired whoever did Mickey Rourke, and then Mickey Rourke found out and beat up Judge.

It was distracting.

Axel F. otherwise good. Double-featured it with BHCII, which I hadn't seen in forever, and remains A+ '80s trash.

yeah Judge looked a bit weird

Enjoyed Axel F - Murphy was in great form, they hit all the right beats… loved the snowplow chase and the helicopter was ridic & b funny & the fact that it was low almost the whole time was a fun approach stunt-wise

my main gripe is it was too long by half and a bit too much plot … needed to be snappier but i guess the first movie really is a unicorn in that way
the middle really dragged

Oh, man, did he fuck it up like Meg Ryan and Annette Benning?

my main gripe is it was too long by half and a bit too much plot

Seems like that's a problem with designed to stream stuff where they don't have to worry about cutting to fit reels and multiple screenings per day.

One thing I loved when revisiting II is that it goes straight into the action with Neilson and the jewelry store robbery.

yeah that was good, i was excited by that

None of them are particularly good films, but at least the second is aesthetically beautiful, and Tony Scott knew how to shoot action

i know it was a cheesy move to reuse the big soundtrack songs but i was **so hype** that they used Shakedown again, it’s really the best

xpost um the first movie is a perfect action comedy and i won’t hear otherwise

The first film is a sloppy mess that feels like it was made up as it was shot, which is what happened. I do really like Martin Brest’s Hot Tomorrows (1977) and Midnight Run (1988), though

hmph

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lol

https://deadline.com/2025/07/eddie-murphy-inspector-clouseau-new-pink-panther-movie-1236472857/

“I’m getting ready to do a [biopic of] George Clinton, [his music collective] Parliament-Funkadelic. I’m getting ready to do George Clinton,” The Pickup star said, confirming Deadline’s scoop last year. “I’ve already started Shrek 5. And I’m going to be — I’m Inspector Clouseau in the next Pink Panther.”

honestly i’d watch it

VegemiteGrrl says "yes please" to Shrek 5.

rude

i meant pink panther (and george clinton)

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