Gavin Newsom (formerly: Joanna Newsom's cousin is a shit (allegedly))

xpost - ok, so he's got a "rep"

"Ruby, what's on the schedule for noon?" (cue porn music)

Matt Gonzalez's favorite album is Crooked Rain Crooked Rain, whereas Newsom's is Kind of Blue. Also, Gonzalez used to write a monthly column for my friend's zine. I think there's a pretty strong possibility that Gonzalez owns a few Drag City releases, regardless of whether or not he's related to the musicians.

http://www.meshsf.com/blogs/876528081_l.jpg

and Hairwatch (Also -- today's Gavin hair report: gelled. ???) says she's on the right here:

http://www.sfist.com/attachments/sfist_rita/1114272602_m.jpg

At the time, Mountz had a MySpace page that said she was 19. It now says she's 26.

But according to the Sonoma County registrar of voters, the Rohnert Park resident turned 20 on Sept. 17 -- three weeks and two days before Newsom turned 39.

I categorically refuse to believe this name is real. It is too perfect.

Sorry, I had to see it in black and white.

First the scientologist c-list actress
Then the 19 year old Aqua hostess
Then this Marin-realtress looking MILF...

Dude should be getting 1st class prime cuts, not this slop.

I don't recall that any of Willie's skanks worked in his office, or at least not on the City payroll.

lol

I just finished watching San Francisco mayor Gavin Newsom apologize for having a sexual relationship with the wife of his former campaign manager, Alex Tourk."I'm deeply sorry," he said during a brief City Hall news conference.
The TV described this as "Breaking News." By what definition? I mean, really, why is this anybody's business -- except for Mr.
Newsom, Mr. Tourk, Mr. Tourk's wife (the evocatively named Ruby Rippey-Tourk), and Mr. Newsom's ex-wife.
Why is this a public matter?
Despite my less-than-stellar opinion of much of the media, I am still shocked that with Iraq continuing to implode (with January setting a deadly record for Iraqi civilian deaths, and another 61 killed today), and all the other problems facing the world, the media are willing to use up their precious air-time oxygen with pointless crap like this.
Our political and media culture clearly regards sex and scandal the same way Vince Lombardi felt about winning: it isn't everything -- it's the only thing.
This media fixation on personal peccadilloes is a perfect example of what G.K. Chesterton warned about: "If there is one thing worse than the modern weakening of major morals, it is the modern strengthening of minor morals."
I've been writing about the need for a thick line to be drawn between public matters and private lives for years (see here, here, and here). But that hasn't stopped the never-ending cycle of public voyeurism, titillation, admission, contrition, and inevitable prime-time absolution. There was Wolf Blitzer, following up Newsom's news conference by promising: "We're going to have a lot more on this story." I bet they will. And I can already hear any number of TV news personalities clearing their throats and getting ready to usher Newsom into their broadcast confessional.
Spare me. Please.
Unless Newsom misused public funds in the course of his affair or broke some law, this isn't a matter for CNN, it's a matter for Newsom, his friends, and his therapist (if he has one).
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Unless a politician has broken the law, there is only one legitimate answer to the illegitimate probing of private lives: "It's none of your business." (If the pol in question is really popular, "Go to Hell!" is an acceptable substitute.)
I am utterly uninterested in the marital fidelity of our politicians. "Does not stray" might be a wonderful attribute in a husband -- or a dog -- but history has clearly shown that it says nothing about what kind of leader a person will be.
Our politicians need to keep their private lives private, and the media need to keep their focus on what does -- and what surely does not -- constitute news. "Breaking" or otherwise.

Really.

State. Gavin ain't going to win any elections nationally anyway.

guess who just checked into "alcohol abuse" rehab:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/02/05/BAG4ENV8B514.DTL

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/02/08/MNGN5O12RP1.DTL

""Because the campaign laws on this are so unclear, the mayor decided the simplest and most appropriate thing to do was for him to personally pay any remaining salary to Alex Tourk until he gets a job," said Sutton."

yo, sf ilxors, how's gavin's lovelife these days??

i heard joanna's g-diddy founded welch's grape juice

lol @ g-diddy

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom has made it official—he's running to become California's next governor.
The 41-year-old mayor used the social networking sites Twitter and Facebook to announce on Tuesday that he was seeking the Democratic nomination to succeed Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Newsom could face 71-year-old Attorney General Jerry Brown and 64-year-old Lt. Gov. John Garamendi in next year's Democratic primary. Brown was governor from 1975 to 1983.

Other Democrats mentioned as possible contenders include 56-year-old Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and 75-year-old U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein.

http://www.nathanscripps.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/gavin_newsom_oggling1.jpg

http://www.fogcityjournal.com/images/photos/new_years_eve_061231/mw2w5902_std.jpg

I'll probably vote for this guy in the primary, not gonna lie.

Gavin Newsom has always reminded me of Christian Bale as Patrick Bateman in American Psycho

I'll probably vote for this guy in the primary, not gonna lie.

Over Jerry Brown????

this guy is gonna fail so hard.

American Psycho resemblance has been widely discussed

I'm not voting for him.

he will hook u up w chix & drinx

yeah I am so not voting for this jackass. guy has accomplished nothing

really hope villaraigosa runs too for maximum lolz

I would probably vote for Gary Coleman if he chose to run again.

villaraigosa vs. newsom would be a great matchup of foot-in-mouth narcissist lols

coupla bros just chasing tail

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_9f8lGPn6xEc/SZsEOaDe-pI/AAAAAAAAAk4/7GfAVuwtruI/s320/Villaraigosa+and+Newsome.jpg

I believe the technical term is "cooze-hound"

this picture is fucking awesome

http://www.nathanscripps.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/gavin_newsom_oggling1.jpg

"the mayor at work"

xp Shakey: Gavin has accomplished things, but a lot of those things are lame, i.e. Banning tobacco sales at Walgreens.

I had hopes he could actually mediate between the loonier aspects of the progressives and downtown. Instead, he's accomplished almost nothing. As a man, he's a heck of a lot nicer to meet than Willie - he's actually pretty personable - though Agnos was even nicer in ways.

Didn't he accomplish universal health insurance and wireless for everyone in SF?

lolz

I don't want to google and disillusion that.

xp Eazy: No. He did raise the city minimum wage, which led to a lawsuit by the Restaurant Association, because it didn't allow for a lower amount for tipped employees, as the federal and state minimum wages do. As far as the health insurance thing goes, employers are supposed to offer health insurance or pay into a fund for insurance to adminstered by the City. Not sure how that's actually panning out, as no one at my organization works in SF enough days to qualify. Newsom did ban tobacco sales at Walgreens - just Walgreens. He also refused to participate in "Question Time," as mandated by the voters.

I'm all for smoking bans in public places and stuff like that but the Walgreen's thing is so weird - why punish that particular retailer?

xp Shakey: It always gets me when people in SF complain about smoking because of the smell, when a significant portion of the streets of the city smells like urine. People complain about Oakland's problems, but Oakland actually smells better than SF.

I propose that the mayor ban urinating on Walgreens

(but you probably don't wanna get me started on the tobacco industry - I don't really care about the smell, its just a public health issue for me)

xp Shakey: fair enough.

campaign strategy?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/cityinsider/detail?entry_id=39093

I live in LA, so I'm unfamiliar with this "Northern Villaraigosa" reputation; maybe I should have looked into him and his history before becoming a supporter-of-sorts who signed up for campaign emails.

I'm still waiting for that immediate input opportunity his campaign manager spoke of.

Newsom+Villaraigosa are polling at the same level as Jerry Brown

that's a 'plus', not an 'and'

xp gabbneb: you might get to vote on what color tie he should wear

or i might get to vote in the primary

The end of the dream, blah blah blah.

Well that's one less jerk I won't have to think about not voting for.

such a slimeball

Is this cause virtually none of the unions backed him and were holding out for Jerry Brown?

Interesting that comes out the day after the Brown recorded phone coversations...

"who has been seen as a leading contender to be the next governor of California"

lulz

I can't believe Jerry Brown's our nominee. (Not that I would prefer Gavin.)

At least old people will vote for him, right?

i kinda regret voting for him for mayor

Jerry Brown that is, not Gavin

Time for the suede denim secret police?

thing is, a lot of Newsom's mayoral policies remind me of that song

sort of rocking a christian bale-type self-serious face in the picture at that link

He'll hack up some woman while listening to Phil Collins tonight, no doubt about it.

that's what Project Homeless Connect is really about

fwiw, in case anyone hasn't noticed there are still tons of crazy homeless people pissing all over the city

way to go mister mayor!

he can't hack them all up at once

Well done Gavin.

someone please intercut this with the Christian Bale meltdown.

this movie doesn't have a happy ending

by which I mean, this dude is ripe for a very messy, public, career and life-destroying meltdown

maybe he'll end being a serial killer.

So slimy.

http://images.artistdirect.com/Images/nad/video/tribune/74686/74686_bg.jpg

and that's just his hair gel!

by which I mean, this dude is ripe for a very messy, public, career and life-destroying meltdown

Didn't he already have one?

I mean an even worse one! Probably involving public nudity, crying, violence, or some combo thereof

Can't say I've been following him too closely, but wow is he a class 'A' douche.

Gavin's class "A" all the way!

http://sfist.com/attachments/SFist_AndrewD/newsom_skates.jpg

no meltdown, but his star has certainly fizzled out completely. the once-and-future governor seems to be barely a politician now.

He's running...

hmm, Gavin has some tough words for Trump. Meanwhile, Joanna refuses to put out a new album. Don't make me reconsider my ranking!

there's no fucking way in hell that Newsom will ever be president... maybe Secretary of State, or UN ambassador, but POTUS? No fucking way bro, don't waste our time

welp, i learned just this second that these two are related

lol same

its even weirder to me that she's married to Andy Samburg. I mean they seem like nice people it just feels like if say Bjork and Chris Farley were dating in the 90s

chris farley in tuomi böy coming to theatres soon

Trump has now called for Newsom's arrest lol

Newsom should call for Trump's arrest lol

its even weirder to me that she's married to Andy Samburg

didn't they buy Bela Lugosi's mansion or something? I would totally buy Bela Lugosi's mansion if I had the bread

honestly pisses me off that the Dems are so feckless that this fuckin guy is the one we have to rally around

I honestly have never heard any democrats rally around Newsom... he had the early victory with gay marriage in San Francisco, he's been a mostly competent gov of the most populous state, but he inspires no one... and his Kimberly Guilfoyle connection is positively repulsive

welp, i learned just this second that these two are related

― alpine static

same. i'm glad he's actually bothering to oppose trump. he's still a shit.

Opposing Trump is better than his stupid podcast where he was talking to Charlie Kirk and the like

Ranking the words of this thread title in order of absolute stupid garbage, from least-stupid to most-stupid, insofar as the intention of this thread:

1. Newsom
2. shit
3. (allegedly)
4. is
5. a
6. cousin
7. Joanna

Joanna Newsom's cousin is a shit (allegedly)

(xpost) yeah but he was just doing that like 2 weeks ago.

But it was good to see the state turn around and sue the administration to prevent it from cutting funding over trans athletes today (and then sue them again over the national guard).

his stupid podcast has had Newt Gingrich and Dr. Phil on. within the last two weeks!

i didn't even know andy samberg had a podcast

honestly pisses me off that the Dems are so feckless that this fuckin guy is the one we have to rally around

― frogbs, Monday, June 9, 2025 1:22 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

source? i fucking hate this guy, definitely not going to rally around him

Yeah, but he's our shit

i'm not actually sure who "my shit" is. not gavin newsom. uh... robert fripp? maybe?

Newsom Tells Nation That Trump Is Destroying American Democracy

By Laurel Rosenhall
Reporting from Sacramento
June 10, 2025, 10:11 p.m. ET

Gov. Gavin Newsom made the case in a televised address Tuesday evening that President Trump’s decisions to send military forces to immigration protests in Los Angeles have put the nation at the precipice of authoritarianism.

The California governor urged Americans to stand up to Mr. Trump, calling it a “perilous moment” for democracy and the country’s long-held legal norms.
“California may be first, but it clearly won’t end here,” Mr. Newsom said, speaking to cameras from a studio in Los Angeles. “Other states are next. Democracy is next.”

“Democracy is under assault right before our eyes — the moment we’ve feared has arrived,” he added.

Mr. Newsom spoke on the fifth day of protests in Los Angeles against federal immigration raids that have sent fear and anger through many communities in Southern California. He said Mr. Trump had “inflamed a combustible situation” by taking over California’s National Guard, and by calling up 4,000 troops and 700 Marines.

The governor is considered a possible Democratic presidential candidate in 2028, and his Tuesday night speech, called “Democracy at a Crossroads,” sounded national in scope. It aired on some national networks and on Mr. Newsom’s social media accounts, with audio problems in the opening minutes.

The current political standoff has made it possible for Mr. Newsom to have a wider platform, and he has jousted with President Trump and Republicans for several days in interviews and on social media.

“Authoritarian regimes begin by targeting people who are least able to defend themselves.,” Mr. Newsom said in his speech. “But they do not stop there. Trump and his loyalists thrive on division because it allows them to take more power and exert even more control.”

The address was an unusual move for Mr. Newsom, who has dyslexia and dislikes reading from a teleprompter to deliver formal speeches. But he has been using every communication channel possible to raise alarms about the extraordinary measures Mr. Trump has taken to mobilize the military for domestic uses.

Not since the civil rights movement in the 1960s has a president sent National Guard troops to quell unrest without the support of the state’s governor.

“I ask everyone to take the time to reflect on this perilous moment,” he said, “a president who wants to be bound by no law or constitution, perpetrating a unified assault on American traditions.”

gavin cuomo otm

Who would you have in his place this week?

i'd prefer a ton of people in his place, but (for some reason!) none of them have any standing in the democratic party apart from aoc

at any rate, continue going off, hair guy

What would you want to see them do this week?

i'd like to see them come out against the kidnapping of people by masked individuals who may or may not be federal agents and may or may not have warrants

Come out how? Through a speech?

possibly even show up to a protest in person!

alabama's senator has said that he should be arrested; the speaker of the house has said that he should be tarred and feathered. FUCKING FIGHT BACK

my bad for assuming the governor of california had any political power at all i guess

"“Trump is pulling a military dragnet all across Los Angeles. Well beyond his stated intent to just go after violent and serious criminals, his agents are arresting dishwashers, gardeners, day laborers and seamstresses.”

are you suggesting gavin should just fold up in the face of this military incursion?

this is an *opportunity* for him to be the face of the resistance to this incredible federal overreach. chuck schumer is fucking useless. if gavin shows the slightest hint of balls people might even forgive him hosting complete assholes on his podcast. although i won't

in any case i apologize; this is exactly why i do not read the american politics threads

also joanna newsom is v. pretty ant talented, and andy samberg is handsome and funny, and i'm sure they are a wonderful couple

What would you want to see them do this week?

― the way out of (Eazy)

i know i wasn't being asked this question, but honestly? honestly, democrats working on a national level, i'd like to see them fuckin' quit. because the truth is they don't have meaningful political power right now. on a state level, maybe sometimes. on a national level... if they had power, the shit that's been happening wouldn't be happening.

to be clear, if anyone's asking themselves "big talk, why don't you quit _your_ job, kate"... i did, three months ago. because, among other reasons, doing compliance work for a private health insurance company wasn't something i could continue to do in good conscience. i might suggest that perhaps senators in the US Congress might be on a more financially stable footing than i am.

anyway, i guess i'm gonna show up to the rally on the 14th. i got pretty bad social anxiety and don't really enjoy being around large groups of people, but, well, there's still this myth about rule being by "implied consent of the governed" and not "monopoly on the legitimate use of force", and i'm kinda interested in finding out how much legitimacy the president has, when it comes to the use of force. cuz if he can just order us troops to fire on people, and troops will obey those orders, and the american people will accept that he has a right to order americans killed, and the troops have an obligation to kill americans if he orders them to? i'm a fuckin' dead woman.

preemptive apology/retraction. quite honestly, i mean, i don't know _what_ the hell is going on. i don't have access to a lot of reliable sources. i have access to plenty of _unreliable_ sources, but not a lot of reliable ones. i bought shorts today. i went out to the local russian restaurant for lunch and had some sour cherry, i don't know, pierogies or something. they were good. went over to a friend's house and watched _the pirates of penzance_ (1983) and _little shop of horrors_ (director's cut). tried to watch a 23-minute video essay on "the worst american sports team" but only got two minutes in. i worry and there's nobody there i trust to tell me what the fuck is happening. so i get things wrong a lot. people say "oh the president has deployed the military and the national guard in LA" and i don't know what that _means_. i'm supposed to go see a local wrestling show saturday. a bar near my home is having a ten-band queer punk rock show saturday. the world is a weird place. does gavin newsom know what he's doing? more than i know what i'm doing, presumably. hopefully. i'm just, you know, trying to navigate the fog of peace.

Good living to make time for cherry perogies and live queer punk, for sure.

i didn't even know andy samberg had a podcast

was this a joke? the podcast with charlie kirk and dr. phil is newsom's

(also samberg does have a podcast with seth meyers, apparently)

joanna newsom has a podcast with charlie kirk and dr. phil?

(that _was_ a joke, or at least an attempt at one)

They play harp I hear

this is an *opportunity* for him to be the face of the resistance to this incredible federal overreach.

The only thing Gavin Newsom is or will ever be the face of is Gavin Newsom.

otm. all i see is a narcissist using this as an opportunity to make a name for himself on the national stage. i don't think he believes in democracy or anything else. he just believes in gavin newsom.

also yeah it was a joke xp

can we change the title of this thread? it keeps getting me excited that there's some Joanna N news, plus it feels unfair for her to be tarnished by the brush of her slimy shit cousin

let's give it a title from another existing ILX thread that makes it obvious that it's about Gavin

And if you come and see me
You will upset the order
You cannot come and see me
For I set myself apart
But when you come and see me
In California
You cross the border of my heart

Gazin Newcoombes

plus it feels unfair for her to be tarnished by the brush of her slimy shit cousin

hey now, it says allegedly!

can we change the title of this thread? it keeps getting me excited that there's some Joanna N news, plus it feels unfair for her to be tarnished by the brush of her slimy shit cousin

Thank you Lavator for saying something, it's actually been really bothering me-- not because I'm particularly excited for Joanna News, more that I think that her cousinhood to this guy is not-relevant to her own music/personhood

suggested title:

Gavin Newsom is a shit (scientifically proven)

OK. Enough of an edit?

thank you!

i also like the ambiguity (if you don't carefully parse the parentheses) that it allegedly had that former title

To get back to "gotta hand it to him" mode, I think his recent statements have been good, regardless of whether they are motivated by sheer narcissism and ambition. The sad fact is he's showing more spine than the majority of prominent Democrats. It's nice to think they may learn something from this, but every day of silence leads me to believe they mostly support Trump's crime spree.

it's not looking good out there but if you're holding your breath for the democrats to grow a spine, i'm not sure what to tell you

"rest in peace" is traditional, though some find it overly christian

it's not looking good out there but if you're holding your breath for the democrats to grow a spine, i'm not sure what to tell you

― budo jeru

I'm not holding my breath, I'm marching and pushing.

Democratic strategists and most DC Dem senators and reps are still locked into the "immigration" does not poll well for us theory (despite the fact the the due process argument & the El Salvador stuff hurt Trump's poll numbers), but instead of speaking loudly about billionaire tax cuts, knocking people off of Obamacare, knocking people off of Medicaid, AND speaking up for immigrants and against ICE, they're just hiding out while Republicans share photos of the guy with the Mexican flag on the car and people throwing rocks. Dems and Biden and Newsom never spoke up sufficiently with moral, religious, due process or economic arguments for immigrants for years, and the mainstream media of course never did either.

I see them lead with billionaire tax cuts and Medicaid every time they make a statement.

The problem is that statements have basically zero power when you’re out of power. Democrats need to be on the front lines getting arrested or building bases of power outside the electoral sphere.

Statements also have zero impact when you’re in power (cf. Nancy Pelosi taking a knee for BLM) but you can theoretically back them up with legislation at least.

Maxine Waters sought to enter the federal building out there in LA and they said no, and she left. She and others did the same in DC in protests against Doge. They need to get arrested but do so in a way that separates themselves from J6 types, or folks burning cars off on other streets.

counterpoint: they should absolutely be setting fire to panopticonmobiles themselves

I had totally forgotten about Ruby Rippey-Tourk and that drama…

https://bsky.app/profile/goldengateblond.bsky.social/post/3lrhcu6slns2r "> https://bsky.app/profile/goldengateblond.bsky.social/post/3lrhcu6slns2r

Explaining Gavin to non-Californians

Link works even though formatting not great

This shithead just won't quit: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/07/gavin-newsom-rages-about-trans-kids-in-sports-how-democrats-hate-his-stance/

there are many ppl who would improve the world with one weird trick and he is one of them

can we just fast-forward to when this dickweed loses so we never have to hear about whatever rancid """"""zing""""" he gave drumpf on x dot com?

https://clickhole.com/laying-the-groundwork-by-tweeting-in-all-caps-like-trump-gavin-newsom-is-proving-hes-the-democrat-best-suited-to-be-a-writers-assistant-on-our-cartoon-president-i/

You can bet the entire Democratic party is taking note of the rave reviews Gov. Newsom’s Trump mimicry is drawing among their base. Democrats who were busy crafting policy proposals or coming up with a vision for our country’s future that could replace Trumpism are probably dropping their platforms and getting a preemptive start on their Our Cartoon President packets after seeing the engagement Gov. Newsom’s posts are getting. Like him or not, it’s difficult to argue that any liberal is better positioned for a low-level staff role on a theoretical Our Cartoon President reboot than Gavin Newsom

Ehh.. he's a blue-state lame duck fucking around, trying to raise his profile... I think some Dems are relieved that someone is doing something

fucking around trying to raise his profile, doing something, relief (l to r):

🤑😮‍💨🥴

I’d totally forgotten the incident that gave this thread its original title. Ruby Rippey-Tourk! What a name. Wonder what happened to her.

I don't think I can bring myself to vote for this guy if he is the Dem candidate in 2028. Newsom, Booker, Buttigeg is like voting for which vomit tastes best. No thank you.

grow up

No one is saying you can't vote for losers who don't believe in anything. In fact, I am almost certain you will have that opportunity.

grow up

― jaymc, Friday, August 22, 2025 1:06 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

nice

Politicians are almost universally disappointing and at this point I rarely think about who I'm voting for, only who I'm voting against. If I was American and JD Vance is on the ticket for 2028, I'd vote for whoever the fuck wasn't JD Vance.

lads, we need to pace ourselves here

maybe it'll calm y'alls nerves a bit to look at historically who the frontrunners were 2+ years out from the actual primaries

when someone decides the model of democracy in their country is broken and they are not going to vote for people they despise anymore in a fucked up duopoly, this is a symptom of immaturity and they need to grow up? Yeah keep drinking the kool aid, dickhead.

This question may be on its way to being a moot point

I don't think duopoly really works for the US. The major political parties are much further apart than they in most countries

though this is a relatively recent development arguably

I am lukewarm on Newsom as a politician and a potential presidential candidate, and I don't think his social media approach is The Way for Democrats for Win. But I think it might be an effective way to disrupt some of the media dynamics around Trump.

Brian Beutler:

Satirizing Trump in this way, by simply holding up a mirror, serves the express purpose of shaking people out of their desensitization. It works, and is working, on two levels: First, by demonstrating that Trump can be effectively mocked. Second by exposing the inconsistency or bad faith of everyone who’s given Trump a pass. Newsom is also holding a mirror up to establishment figures who only expect comity from Democrats, and to Republican propagandists—like Dana Perino—who pretend to be outraged, while simultaneously cheering Trump’s depravity.

The absurdity is the point, you might say. And it is absurd. But it’s also valuable. If there’s a problem with m̶y̶ Newsom’s innovation it’s that it comes late, and we need much more of it.

though this is a relatively recent development arguably

I don't think that's arguable really.

if we are concerned about all the attention Newsom is getting, it's probably worth asking why there aren't more Dems taking note and jumping into the fray as well

Yeah, I think most countries ebb and flow when it comes to politics, and what was the case yesterday may not be the case today. However in the case of today, I don't think there is another country with its major parties further apart. Today the US is the least like a duopoly not the most

xp Is it cringey? You bet. Is it getting a lot of attention and putting Republicans on the defensive? Also yes.

I did refer to it as a fucked-up duopoly. Two despicable, corrupt parties - one of them trying to go full fash with a senile lunatic at the helm. Still in a democracy (even a sham one) you can decide NOT to vote for people whose politics you despise, it's an option and doesn't mean that you are immature.

some of them would like to but don't have the chops, but most of them are basically post-Clinton center-right grifters who aren't especially bothered by Trump

I did refer to it as a fucked-up duopoly. Two despicable, corrupt parties - one of them trying to go full fash with a senile lunatic at the helm. Still in a democracy (even a sham one) you can decide NOT to vote for people whose politics you despise, it's an option and doesn't mean that you are immature.

I think it depends on the democracy, I don't think this is an option in Australia. But in the US it's an option not to vote yes, in fact its generally preferred not to

But duopoly is a strange choice of words, it presumably just refers to the number of of parties rather than them being the same

xp Is it cringey? You bet. Is it getting a lot of attention and putting Republicans on the defensive? Also yes.

― jaymc, Friday, August 22, 2025 10:51 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

How are Republicans on the defensive because of Newsom? How does this manifest exactly?

xp

yes, let's tediously digress over the use of the word "duopoly" here and expound about compulsory voting. Actually, no let's not bother because you are a fucking boring cunt at best.

One thing to consider is that Newsom was at one point considered unfit to national level politics because of his slimy past (grooming, rampant infidelity) but if there's anything that Trump has taught us is that shit doesn't really matter anymore.

it doesn't matter to people who have no morals which I think explains the vast majority of the Republican base, to Dem voters I think it absolutely does matter

my gut feeling, not based on any serious theory, is that no California politician can lead the Democratic Party to victory over MAGA on a national stage

yes, let's tediously digress over the use of the word "duopoly" here and expound about compulsory voting. Actually, no let's not bother because you are a fucking boring cunt at best.

― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, August 22, 2025 4:32 PM (forty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

my man

my gut feeling, not based on any serious theory, is that no California politician can lead the Democratic Party to victory over MAGA on a national stage

― c u (crüt), Friday, August 22, 2025 4:57 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i agree with this

I also agree with that, tbh.

I agree too, though I stopped making predictions when a Chicago senator named Barack Hussein Obama became nominee and president.

However in the case of today, I don't think there is another country with its major parties further apart.

The presidential candidate for the Democrats was campaigning on being endorsed by a republican war criminal, and vowing to include republicans in her cabinet. Federally elected Democrats have signed off on a plurality if not a majority of Trump’s appointments, and mayors and mayoral candidates keep pledging to collaborate with the administration. The Democratic leaders in both house and senate refuse to condemn the administration’s policies when pressed, referring at most to one of them having written an unread letter six months ago.

I think it depends on the democracy, I don't think this is an option in Australia.

RCV doesn’t mean that if you’ve numbered a racist, a gun nut, or a right-wing reverend #283 on your senate ballot that you’re voting *for* them. They were already on the ballot. It’s not a weighted ILM poll.

Plus you can stop anywhere after TWELVE as of the 2020s, you don’t have to fill the whole paper if you go below the line.

can Joanne Newsome's extremely wealthy (and no doubt corrupt as fuck) and reputationally untenable (and widely despised) cousin teach the US electorate to finally "grow up"?

pretty sure i'd rather have Joanne Newsome teasing a presidential run

Is there an act that named themselves Joanna Gruesome? I’d vote for them first.

Hell yeah, they went on to become ILM favourites, The Tubs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joanna_Gruesome

Looks like Gavin Newsom grew some.

when he announces that California is ceasing all tax payments to the U.S. Treasury, then I'll agree that he grew some

How does CA do that if it never has payments to the U.S. Treasury in it's possession?

new pynchon conspiracy theory plot sounds promising

A Californian can win, they just have to not suck. Unfortunately, California exclusively produces terrible Democrats so that will never happen.

From Nixon/Reagan onwards, I feel like CA has had outsized influence on the opposite party. It would be way easier for CA to produce a catchphrase-spouting grifter who splits the Republican base. For awhile I thought that would have been Schwarzenegger.

i don't think Harris lost because she was from California

run bill hader doing his californians sketch accent

Looks like Gavin Newsom grew some.

He is prepared to speak out on important matters, true.

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/ca-gov-gavin-newsom-completely-aligns

The California governor stated he was "completely aligned" with far-right, anti-LGBTQ+ influencer Charlie Kirk on transgender participation in sports. He also appeared to express agreement with restrictions on medical care for incarcerated transgender people and limits on gender-affirming healthcare for transgender youth.

That was last month, his team figured out that sick burns and performative liberalism were a better lane than being the nu-Clinton.

Is he still doing his stupid podcast?

The new Andrew Cuomo

i will never forgive him for the french laundry thing

it's true that there are far better things to hate him for, and far better reasons never to vote for him. but i'll never vote for him because of the french laundry thing and all you libs can suck it

Looks like Gavin Newsom grew some.

All that was was a play on words - like Joanna Gruesome - I have no idea what the cunt is up to and couldn't give a fuck, he's your problem.

25 is too young for gender transition according to this absolute blowhard. fuck him

yea honestly just as I always hated (though I voted for) Copmala, I will always hate this fucker as a former San Francisco Bay Area resident. unlike Copmala tho, i won’t ever vote for him— he’s scum.

I maintain that "Would I vote for Gavin Newsom for president?" is a discussion you can have if you feel like it, "Should I vote for Gavin Newsom for president?" is never going to be a question in need of an answer.

Praying to the good lord every morning that Gav’s never the candidate

he's your problem.

hopefully not!

I have no idea what the cunt is up to and couldn't give a fuck,

This certainly seems the right thread to read repeatedly for the first thought to remain in stasis, and a productive one to post in repeatedly if the latter remains constant.

As a British observer with no skin in this game, I'm wondering who you folks do favour for the Democratic nomination. I don't like Newsom any more than you do, but if not him then who?

The ghost of FDR

There will probably be many people throwing their hat in the ring in the next couple years. I kind of wish Tim Walz would run (or stand as the British and Canadians have it) and tell the fucking consultants to go to hell.

it's walz's to lose for me. someone who can appeal to normie dems and take on a progressive mandate for change. pritzker could be good, too.

At the moment, yeah, Walz or Pritzker (or both! two fat middle-aged white guys! can't get more American than that!).

Walz has lost a lot of weight recently because: jogging.

i believe he can regain that weight to reconnect with the common man (i.e. me)

cosign Walz or Pritzker

Newsom is an opportunist

I don't have a favorite because my favorite is whoever can put together a multi-state coalition of support and win the primary, which is the best/only indicator we have of who might be able to actually win a general elections. I have no interest in nominating someone I like and respect if they can't deliver in November. Politics is a competitive enterprise, you need someone who can win. But I realize I prioritize personally liking a candidate less than a lot of people.

I don't think Newsom is going to be the nominee, because I don't see any indication that he has the chops to do that. But that's why open primaries are valuable (and why, again, Biden unconscionably throttled Democrats' chances in '24 by not allowing one).

https://i.imgur.com/MbWWR02.jpeg

these guys are all too fucking old

I just need a pulse and a spine

these guys are all too fucking old

who you got that's young enough for you?

my worry around the Harris failure is that the party will get mired in fear of another female candidate ('they just can't win!'), while the GOP will happily nominate someone far worse than Thatcher and our first woman president will be Noem or someone awful like that

Pritzker and Walz are 60-65, give or take? As long as you’re not hitting the dementia cliff inside of 8 years, whatever. It’s not like 45 year old Drmocratic politicians have shockingly good politics in general.

lol your mom? Gimme a break, this is such a copout. Am I only aloud to complain if I find a replacement candidate I like? Am I supposed to just fix the gerontocracy by myself? Your post is like when people pushed back against BLM for protesting but not having specific written policy suggestions or some shit. But you obviously know a lot more than I do, since you’re older and more mature and even keeled. Sorry, old people should not be in charge of important stuff! Just my opinion!

Raise your standards.

sorry that was to Aimless

Am I only aloud to complain if I find a replacement candidate I like? Am I supposed to just fix the gerontocracy by myself?

No. Anyone can complain. I just wondered who out there appealed to you.

Raise your standards.

Step away. My standards are fine.

60 year olds get their own thread on ilx but they can't even be president??

Josh Shapiro is 52, so he must be better than Walz or Pritzker.

Oh wait, dude sucks

sub-question: at what point will ilx become a gerontocracy, if it hasn't happened already, and how will we deal with that?

I don’t care if Bernie runs again we need someone who doesn’t suck.

Josh Gottheimer’s only 50, guys we found our man!!!!

sub-question: at what point will ilx become a gerontocracy, if it hasn't happened already, and how will we deal with that?

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we explain in our wills that our children (or other next of kin/cool neighbors) must become poasters and inherit our usernames

m bison jr is only 12 rn but he has young messi levels of shitposting talent already

nice, perhaps you could test the waters and ask him how he feels the beat on "roll out"

thats old ppl music to him (ergo illegible) but he has a lot of positive opinions on tyler, the creator (where did these opinions come from is anyone's guess)

I don't think Pritzker is too old but he is too fucking rich

Pritzker is not too old and sometimes it takes a rich dude to FDR the place up a bit.

how many times

...do I have to try
and tell you
that I'm sorry
for all
the times I voted

I wish the real world would just stop hasslin me