can i run 5k? can you run 5k?

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ok, so my 14yo friend called me this eve and she wants to do the race for life cancer research charity run thing (www.raceforlife.org). bc she's u18 she's not allowed to do it by herself, she has to get a "responsible adult" to do it with her. so she asked me to do it with her. in theory i'm totally up for this, but dude, i only run for, like, the bus. seriously. i'm not that unfit, i mean, i can cycle for 10 hours or something, swim for hella longtime too, but it's different. i'm not sure i can run for even 10 minutes. i want to say yes because i want her to be able to do it. i don't think there's anyone else she could ask either, her mum's got plenty other stuff filling her life & time, and they live away from the rest of their family. but i am craaaaap. waht to do? is it possible to learn to run 5xk in 1xmonth?

emsk, Friday, 2 March 2007 01:46 (eighteen years ago)

like, i was ok at the 800m when i was 15 or so, way better than i was at any sprint. but still.

emsk, Friday, 2 March 2007 01:47 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not a very in shape dude but 5k is not a huge distance and I think any reasonably healthy, non-obese person can train to run it without too much effort. It might help to either start by running on a treadmill or interspersing treadmill with real running, if you have access to one. It's easier than real running, but it gives you a means to measure and gradually up your distance (though I guess you can by some sort of high-tech thingamadoody that measures outdoor mileage).

Hurting 2, Friday, 2 March 2007 01:53 (eighteen years ago)

5k is like 2.5 miles. That means, even at a sloooooooooooow pace, you're putting out about 40 minutes of low-intensity effort, max. Cycling for 10 hours is way harder, and swimming even more so. I wouldn't worry about it. Just run really slow.

gbx, Friday, 2 March 2007 01:57 (eighteen years ago)

Yes! You can do it! Plus, who says you can't just walk part of it? Are you supposed to keep up with her the whole time?

Maria :D, Friday, 2 March 2007 02:01 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, 5k isn't really into "long distance" territory yet -- that's actually in the range of "everyday jog" for a lot of normal people -- so if you have a good enough cardiovascular start to do lots of swimming and biking, you should be able to manage this in a month, no problem. I mean, provided you're ready to commit to a month's light training. Plus it's just a fun charity run, so your friend probably won't mind setting a slower pace for you; you only have to be in good enough form not to embarrass yourself, not actually hit a good time. You'll be running with old ladies and cancer patients and stuff -- nobody's gonna care if you hang back, or even if you finish at all.

I can't believe I typed that like I know anything, I can barely get up stairs.

nabisco, Friday, 2 March 2007 02:07 (eighteen years ago)

you can totally do it! just start training by alternating walking 5 minutes, running 5 minutes, or even 2 minutes, for 20 min and build from there - it's pretty amazing how quickly your body adapts to running longer periods, esp if you're already in shape. swimming is way harder work - but again, your body became 'trained' to swim efficiently, to know how to move that way - it can do the same with running.

and it's awesome of you to support the endeavours of yr 14-yr-old friend too!

rrrobyn, Friday, 2 March 2007 02:08 (eighteen years ago)

yay! you are inspiring me to think i can do it. i already think i SHOULD.

i dunno if i have to keep up with her. she says she's probably gonna walk part of it anyway. i think this is mostly a pointful thing, rather than a fun thing, for her.

emsk, Friday, 2 March 2007 02:09 (eighteen years ago)

also, remember that just a half marathon is 21k!

rrrobyn, Friday, 2 March 2007 02:14 (eighteen years ago)

5k what? 5,000 is a lot even if it's just kilometres

s1ocki, Friday, 2 March 2007 02:32 (eighteen years ago)

Wocka wocka

Hurting 2, Friday, 2 March 2007 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

you liked that one

s1ocki, Friday, 2 March 2007 02:37 (eighteen years ago)

You can do it! Just shuffle along. Shoes are key.

Beth Parker, Friday, 2 March 2007 02:51 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.bupa.co.uk/health_information/asp/healthy_living/lifestyle/exercise/running/beginner/index.asp

eight-week training regimen, just step it up a bit.

Even if you're out of shape, the hardest part of an untimed 3mi will probably be foot and knee pain.

milo z, Friday, 2 March 2007 02:58 (eighteen years ago)

I run 5-8km a day. I did not start there though. Began with 1 1/2 km on the treadmill, and added speed and distance weekly. I was always fairly athletic though.

However, before this year, I have only seen my wife run maybe a dozen times (1/2 a block or so, max). She recently stated that she would like to run a 5km race this summer, and is now up to 11 or 12 minutes at a steady pace!

(Good tunes are the key)

peepee, Friday, 2 March 2007 03:01 (eighteen years ago)

5K is actually 3.2 miles, give or take. And I did that this past summer in New Orleans. In August for breast cancer. Even when you account for the my crapping out and walking for about 3/4 of a mile of it (thank god they had markers telling you the real distance (miles) you were running), it was not that bad. 5K in New Orleans in New Orleans in August is as bad as it can possibly ever, ever get, and I have always hated running. So, yes, you can do it. iSi, se puede!

Jesse, Friday, 2 March 2007 07:10 (eighteen years ago)

Emsk, you can absolutely do it. Pls to remember to send me a mail looking for sponsorship when the time comes.

accentmonkey, Friday, 2 March 2007 08:11 (eighteen years ago)

yowsa! thank you all! ok i've been thinking about it, remembering the things that stop me running when i ever do do it. i think i get really out of breath rather than really tired, so i need to learn how not to do that. the other thing is i will need some kind of megabra.

emsk, Friday, 2 March 2007 08:59 (eighteen years ago)

Good luck in the run emsk, my friend is thinking of going in for the NY marathon later this year and she has never run a yard in her life either. You're going to be fine for this with all the other exercise you do.

( i'm such a geek i saw this thread title and immediately thought it was a question about computer memory)

Ste, Friday, 2 March 2007 09:38 (eighteen years ago)

Wah I hate the way fit people immediately think they are "reassuring" you by saying "oh it's just an everyday jog REALLY" - well I am training to do the Hydroactive Women's Challenge at the moment (in September?? which one are you talking about emsk?) and it's HARD - I am increasing running period by one minute each week and am now up to 17 minutes (with the walk at the end that brings me to just over 2.5k so I have DOUBLE that to work up to) and now feel WORSE about it :( Oh I hate running and I hate the internet - in return for all this hatred YOU HAD BETTER STUMP UP TO SPONSOR ME whenever I figure out how to sort it out... :(

Sarah, Friday, 2 March 2007 10:30 (eighteen years ago)

Haha that sounded very moany, sorry dudes! It is not actually THAT BAD, but the first ten minutes suck mightily! I tend to feel better once they're over and I can just toddle along.

Sarah, Friday, 2 March 2007 10:31 (eighteen years ago)

I think running on a treadmill seems difficult because they are so toweringly boring compared with running around a park, track, etc.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 2 March 2007 11:03 (eighteen years ago)

I will stump up to sponsor you. Speaking as an utter fatarse myself, I appreciate how hard it must be to do these things, but I think Emsk can manage it. And you. I can feel the inspiring music stirring in the background even as I type.

accentmonkey, Friday, 2 March 2007 11:03 (eighteen years ago)

Our Amber did this, last year (with Mum, naturally).

You run as fast as you want to!

Mark G, Friday, 2 March 2007 11:11 (eighteen years ago)

Emsk, you can totally do it, you are in very good shape. The only thing I would reccomend is good shoes.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 2 March 2007 11:13 (eighteen years ago)

I am also considerably unfitter than Emsk I imagine - not in the least bcz I have pathological hatred of bikes so I imagine she will find it way less of a having to drag self up from the doldrums of fitness har har!

Yeah the treadmill is dull, but it doesn't have kids pointing and laughing at the sweaty and waddling self-conscious whale-woman - and more seriously you can pace yourself much more easily. Once I get up to 20 mins I will try and go for a run outside once a week. I need a running companion but guess what, all my running friends are ALREADY FIT darnit! Arf.

Sarah, Friday, 2 March 2007 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

I cannot run because my ankles are so dodgy. But I should start POWER WALKING again.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 2 March 2007 11:17 (eighteen years ago)

Emsk, as soon as you adapt to running rather than cycling this'll be a doddle. Even I can run 5K and I HATE HATE HATE running.

Mark C, Friday, 2 March 2007 11:20 (eighteen years ago)

I "ran" a similar distance last December dressed as Father Christmas for a Leukemia charity. I didn't train for it or anything, but I did it without too much bother. It's about pacing.

DavidM, Friday, 2 March 2007 11:28 (eighteen years ago)

I agree with Sarah, above. The treadmill allows you to increase time more easily, because of holding at a steady pace...able to get into more of a groove (especially with the tunes). Once you get yourself to a certain time, running outside will be less difficult. (Running at various paces is less efficient) Plus, where I live, running outside during these winter months not a possibility.

I've been running daily for almost 6 years now. My ankles are shit as well (ligaments torn twice in each, broken foot twice). And I still, er...dislike running. I still think of reasons not to do it in the time leading up to it. After 12 or so minutes I try talking myself into stopping. But then I remember that yesterday, I tried to do the same thing, and I didn't, and I survived and felt great for the rest of the day. Its such a great psychological exercise for me. And I rarely bring any shit from work home with me.

Also, that stitch in your side is usually just a stitch in your side, not a heart attack.

peepee, Friday, 2 March 2007 13:00 (eighteen years ago)

5k is a piece of cake. depending on whether it's a cake with quite a bit of sugar in it.

i want to do one of these runs one day. was gonna sign up to the runlondon thing last year but was too late to sign up.

ken c, Friday, 2 March 2007 13:11 (eighteen years ago)

Emsk, you're starting from a good base of fitness already I gather so you'll be able to do this. What's the course over, track, trail or road?

As regards treadmills, I don't actually mind them so much (but only if I can listen to music), not just the pacing aspects but being able to set it at an incline saves a lot of pain on the knees and ankles. I'm lucky in that I live in an area with plenty of trails nearby, and a track, but for those who don't I'd take treadmill over road any day of the week.

Matt, Friday, 2 March 2007 13:13 (eighteen years ago)

What's 5k - about 25 feet? If so I am totally up for it - as long as I can stop half way for a breather.

Ned Trifle II, Friday, 2 March 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

My band is just completing an album....mixing at this time.
Interestingly, I am able to focus on our mixes more closely during my runs.

peepee, Friday, 2 March 2007 13:16 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, that is true, running on asphalt or whatever = no good. London Fields is a nice place for running, as going around twice takes about 25-30 minutes and you can avoid the hard pavement (but you do have to watch out you don't tread on any daffodils)

Tracer Hand, Friday, 2 March 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i love treadmill technology - i always run on a 1.5 incline (v slight) and listen to music and think about how to play the songs and about making music - treadmills are good for that kind of zoning out yet still at the same time concentrating on breathing and form - i find it really meditative in that way. running on real ground is good for balance though but if running through the city it's not as relaxing, to me. a race/organized run is a bit different though b/c everyone around is doing the same thing and there are no cars and dogs and etc to distract.

rrrobyn, Friday, 2 March 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

trail running is the jam, and much better for your joints, especially if you have dodgy ankles like mine.

i've just started running again, as i'm hoping to do this this summer. during fire season, barfy.

gbx, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

what is the incline for? i always thought it just makes it harder.. but it does something good for your knees you say?

ken c, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

i practice balance when i run on treadmills by perving on the cute girls at the other treadmillers and so running at a different direction to where i'm looking! it's weird!

ken c, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

(in September?? which one are you talking about emsk?)

www.raceforlife.org i can choose from any of these:

Venue name Date / Time Status
City of London (Sun) 03 Jun 07 (10:00) Open
Regents Park (Sat) 21 Jul 07 (11:00) Open
Regents Park (Sun) 22 Jul 07 (11:00) Open
Hampstead (Sun) 10 Jun 07 (11:00) Open
Blackheath (Sun) 15 Jul 07 (10:30) Open
Battersea (Wed) 02 May 07 (19:30) Open
Enfield (Sun) 17 Jun 07 (11:00) Open
Bromley (Sun) 06 May 07 (11:00) Open
Ealing & Hounslow (Sun) 29 Jul 07 (11:00) Open
Croydon (Sun) 13 May 07 (11:00) Open
Richmond (Sat) 19 May 07 (14:00) Open
Richmond (Sun) 20 May 07 (11:00) Open
Richmond (Sun) 20 May 07 (14:00) Open

the teenager can make any of them so i can pick. she fancied bromley but i def can't do that weekend as i will be in the forest.

i have slightly dodgy ankles. not too worried about that though, they both tend to sort of "go" in the first five minutes of me doing anything and then recover quite quickly. i am NOT going on a treadmill, euch. london fields is a good idea!

emsk, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

It took me about a month of training with the cross country team when I was 17 to be able to run the full 5k.

my time sucked, but I was down to 180lbs and could sleep at night.

I no longer run due to fears of prolonged damage to legs/feets/joints.

kingfish, Friday, 2 March 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

chariotsoffiretheme.mp3

piece of piss luv...x

CharlieNo4, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

you can totally do it!! if running the entire thing seems daunting, try a split run (it has helped me in the past!). A split run is just dividing up your run time with a walking break - for example, a 5/1 split would mean to run for 5 minutes and walk for one minute. Sometimes that 1 minute walking break is a real lifesaver, especially when going for a longer distance. You are going to feel great once you finish! Races are far more fun than I ever expected them to be. Just make sure your shoes are in good condition (or use this as an excuse to buy new ones) & you will be good to go!

sweet tater, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

ta :)
WHY DO THEY ALWAYS DO THIS SHIT IN SUMMER WHEN IT IS HOT
fules
for this reason i am tempted by battersea as it's an evening one. also battersea park is lush.

emsk, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)

less likely to be pissing it down in the summer :)

ken c, Friday, 2 March 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

okay, i have been reading this website http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/index.shtml
and have decided to start running for reals, as in training. for a 5k! or just my 5k. it is going to be rad. i don't want to hijack this thread - but can't find another ilx running thread? weird

today i ran 5k in about 31 minutes (but had more run in me, so continued for 10 more min), which is okay, and it was on an incline of 1.5 - i'm not sure how 5k times are calculated usually - as if only on a flat surface? (i don't think that this slight elevation is all that significant though - the machine says what the vertical distance covered is, but i forget...) anyway, i read on that site that beginner level is considered 26 min and above (for women), intermediate is btwn 22 and 26 min. of course i'm all fuck this beginner stuff, i want to be at least intermediate. haha. hence, training. yaay running thread!

rrrobyn, Saturday, 3 March 2007 03:56 (eighteen years ago)

that website is exciting!
friday night whooo!
(i am resting up for tomorrow, honest!)

rrrobyn, Saturday, 3 March 2007 04:45 (eighteen years ago)

this is interesting re: running surfaces:

"Runners World agrees, as evidenced by its ranking of surfaces on a scale of 1 (awful) to 10 (best):

Grass 9.5
Wood chips 9
Dirt 8
Cinder track 7.5
Track 7
Treadmill 6.5
Asphalt 6
Sand 4
Snow 2.5
Concrete 1
"
running on grass is really nice

rrrobyn, Saturday, 3 March 2007 04:54 (eighteen years ago)

I used to train on dunes, it's bloody hard work.

Running on grass / trail is lovely. Partially the lack of pain, and partially the fact that you're generally looking at something interesting whilst you're at it (this argument clearly works for ken and his treadmill stunnas also).

Matt, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:20 (eighteen years ago)

Concrete will give you shin splints in like two seconds. I KNOW. Sand is just supah hard to keep ankles solid, plus there's NO rebound so you lose all that energy on each impact. I find grass treacherous, though, because it's never entirely flat so you run the risk of turning ankle unless you're looking at the ground every second. :(

Laurel, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:25 (eighteen years ago)

The lack of rebound is what makes running up and down dunes so insanely effective, if insanely tiring.

No run for me today cos I'm in work all day :(

Matt, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:30 (eighteen years ago)

hijack the thread rrrobyn! this thread is about running 5k.

emsk, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:43 (eighteen years ago)

I suspect this thread is now the default running thread. Training today emsk?

Matt, Saturday, 3 March 2007 09:44 (eighteen years ago)

cycling today. 25/30 mile countryside ride, then another 13 or 15 miles from kings cross to brixton and back to hackney.

emsk, Saturday, 3 March 2007 10:12 (eighteen years ago)

(emsk, were you in a closet in kilburn last night?)

koogs, Saturday, 3 March 2007 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

beginner level is considered 26 min and above (for women), intermediate is btwn 22 and 26 min

?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

That's intimidating!
30 minutes for 5km for a new runner is outstanding!

peepee, Saturday, 3 March 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, that's what i thought!
i am not really a new runner, just not nec a regular one... i did it in highschool b/c i was good at it and then got into biking and about 2 yrs ago decided to see if i could run again. was hard but got easier fast. i've been a slacker, but lately have gotten way more into it. it will be useful when the zombies come. or for impromtu games of basketball.

rrrobyn, Saturday, 3 March 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

god, even just walking on snow/sand is hard! it just snowed heaps here and half the sidewalks aren't cleared - it takes like twice the time to walk anywhere. but it is pretty. i would totally bust an ankle if i tried to run in it, or just look really really dumb.

rrrobyn, Saturday, 3 March 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

ok i am committed to doing this now.
the bradfordian is gonna be me trainer and teach me to run. i am either gonna die or be 1x skinnyass mofo.
look out world.

yes i was in a closet! hope you enjoyed the gig.

emsk, Monday, 5 March 2007 11:51 (eighteen years ago)

I am just going to run 5K this lunchtime. Will post my time later - maybe ;)

Dr.C, Monday, 5 March 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)

29 mins 50 secs. Well yay for getting under 30, but it's some way off my best ever (27 mins 5 secs) which I doubt I'll ever do again.

Intermediate is between 22 and 26 (above) is crazy talk. We have a bloke at work who is a seriously good runner - he runs the 5K course that I've just done in around 24 mins.

Dr.C, Monday, 5 March 2007 12:48 (eighteen years ago)

My best is 13m11.4s at Bebington Oval in '83. I was pace-setting for David Moorcroft but I just decided to keep going. He had a right go at me afterwards. "Do you know what a bell sounds like, dickhead?" I sort of lost impetus after that and started down the road that has yielded the lardy shortarse who struggles to climb stairs that you see today.

Or was it all a dream?

Michael Jones, Monday, 5 March 2007 12:58 (eighteen years ago)

wow, I run pretty regularly but my 5k time is about 32 minutes. I run solid 10-minute miles, and the way I run, I'm better at increasing distance than speed (mainly because I am not at all competitive and would rather have a meditative long run than a short one that's a push).

Maria, Monday, 5 March 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

okay, i'm glad those 'intermediate' times seem a bit crazy to other people. of course, i still want to run fast like that...

yeah, there is something meditative about the longer runs. i'm going to stick with trying to increase my distance (40+ min runs) for the next couple of months, and work less on speed. i did a 42 min run today on an empty stomach - it was good but it got tough in the last 10 min. whereas if i do the same run a couple hrs after eating a moderately carby breakfast i feel like i can run for at least an hour at the same speed, if not faster. mmm, carbs. i guess the empty stomach (morning) runs could be the speedy/shorter ones.

today i ran to: neu, skullflower, sonic youth

rrrobyn, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever timed five k. In my whippet-like youth I managed a ten mile (16k) cross country in 70 mins. I think that's about 24 mins per 5k, but it's a lot closer to half an hour these days. I blame beer.

Matt, Monday, 5 March 2007 23:35 (eighteen years ago)

robyn, i always find i run best 2-3 hours after a meal - 4 pm is pretty much ideal, but obviously not always possible.

Maria, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 01:51 (eighteen years ago)

those intermediate times are race times, i'm guessing, not training times. if you're pulling 30 min 5ks when you're training, you should be able to shave a decent chunk off that when it comes time to race.

that's my guess

gbx, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 03:45 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i was thinking that after reading more of that site

xpost - i like running either first thing in the morning (empty stomach + caffeine), or around 3 or 4 pm, for the longer runs. but since i've made this promise to myself, to run regularly (5x/wk), i'm just like, as long as you get to the gym, don't worry about what time it is, just go there when you can, but above all, go.

rrrobyn, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 03:54 (eighteen years ago)

Sigh, I am demoralised - I tried to run a bit faster yesterday with the aim of going 17 mins, but after 10 minutes I felt completely depressed and my legs were hurting like billy-o, so I gave up and walked for 3 minutes, hoping the leg agony would go - it didn't, so I gave up and went on the rower instead until the legs started to feel vaguely normal again.

Am depressed as it is the first time I haven't managed to go for the time I set myself. (the speed was only 8.5kmph as well). I did however still do a total of 30 mins dreary 'cardio' exercise so that's stopping myself from slumping into UTTER misery. Sigh - I will go back to my previous speed and carry on increasing my time. In fact I think I will probably stop reading this thread - everyone is showing how achievable this is but it doesn't seem so for me right now. I think I might have to go and hug my teddy bear!! I am really very miserable today becuzza this. SOB.

Sarah, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 11:53 (eighteen years ago)

8.5kmph

Sarah you're trying to run at 8,500mph! You're overstretching yourself!

Mark C, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)

At my age (or probably at any age), increasing speed is way more difficult than distance/time.

peepee, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 12:37 (eighteen years ago)

Fret not Sarah, I've been running regularly for 15 years and there's still plenty of times when I find my legs saying "not today" when I'm only ten or fifteen minutes into a run which I intended to be longer. It happens. I've learned to accept that my body knows better than I do when to take it easy.

Matt, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

I'm doing the run thing with Emsk now. I even bought trainers last night. ILE you were my inspiration, but equally if I die (I am nowhere near as fit as emsk) I will blame you all.

Anna, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

ILX's first haunting, though, that's something.

Ed, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:19 (eighteen years ago)

i bought an SPORTSBRA yesterday, i havcn't had one of them since i was about 15.

emsk, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

Ghost in the machine.

Anna, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

nice, anna! i can see you being quite speedy, actually. i've somehow started the running habit, as well. getting fitted for proper shoes today and everything. sadly, i think a big reason that i'm so delighted with this is that there are new accessories.

lauren, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

I need new running shoes. I am doing another 5K tomorrow lunchtime unless it's pissing down.

Dr.C, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

ugh, i need new running shoes too. why so $$$? gar.

sarah, it took me a really really long time to start running beyond 7.8 km/h, honestly. i still do my first ten minutes at 8.2 and then increase gradually to 9.5 - but getting to that took a long time too, as did getting past 25 minutes (though i wasn't running regularly enough.) gradual increases may be boring but they work - and give a nice sense of accomplishment, even if you've only increased by 1 minute. don't get discouraged! (unless the running starts to really hurt you, obv.) at least you just switched cardio machines and didn't just say fuck it and gone home - wise.

i did yoga this morning, braving -38C windchill holy crap my faaace. but worth it for all the leg and back stretching out (sometimes i feel like i have the tightest hamstrings in the world) - so necessary to not hurting self with running challenge.

rrrobyn, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

> but after 10 minutes I felt completely depressed and my legs were hurting like billy-o

ha, mine have hurt all weekend after the strain of standing up for a couple of hours on that merciless luminaire floor. i are old.

koogs, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha, don't worry andy, the teenagers who work in receiving at my job complain about constant leg pain from the concrete floor they stand on all day.

i'm going to go buy new running shoes this week as soon as i get paid. i are inspired!

f. hazel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

ok i am officially doing it, she called up and got her place.

emsk, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 23:30 (eighteen years ago)

oh man i need new shoes. so packed out, make my knees hurt :(

gbx, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 01:04 (eighteen years ago)

Hooray, I went back to lovely 8km/p/h and ran for 17 minutes and walked for 5 which got me to 2.7k - I will never make the mistake of upping my speed EVER AGAIN!

It was awesome today bcz the sky sports channel had a POKER CHAMPIONSHIP on - they should show a poker channel ALL THE TIME!

Commentators: Raise! CalL! Ooh that's a good flop Alan.
Me: *puffing* I don't understand! But this is the most fun sport I've ever watched apart from the Weber Cup!!

Sarah, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

Weber cup? Is that like where you wobble but you don't fall down? And you get a cup for it? I'd watch that sport.

accentmonkey, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

weber cup is 10 pin bowling's answer to tennis's davis cup.

ken c, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

The Weber Cup is Europe vs USA at Ten Pin Bowling! It was on in the pub once on ESPN 8 "the ocho" (or maybe one of the Sky Sports channels, I dn't know) and it's fair to say that it kept our attention ALL NIGHT.

Sarah, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

this thread makes me sad. i really want to go running now, i haven't in a week. but i am afraid if i do, i won't have time to finish my homework...so tempted to just say fuck the homework! okay yes i am going to read this sociology article and then go to the gym!

Maria, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

there's always time for running/exercise, i think. it makes your brain go faster, makes you more efficient, with smarter thoughts, in the end.

i'm so glad you got back on the treadmill horse, sarah :D

i ran for 40 min again today, abt 3.6 miles (something in there, can't totally remember), at 1.0-1.5 incline. 5.0-5.8 m/hr. i wld not be able to do this without there being fans on the treadmill. fans on the treadmill is a freakin fantastic invention, esp for rosacea-prone white girls.

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

SO last night was my first session w my personal trainer*, and it was not only easy but actually FUN, yippee! we just did 1min run-1 min walk for just over 20 minutes (ten repeats then ran home) and i didn't really notice i was *doing* anything much until the 8th run, and on the 9th it started to feel GOOD. we're doing another tomorrow or thurs evening then on sunday we are gonna try and go on some grass rather than the backstreets of hackney estates. ooh also those mtb shoes are wicked fun to run in.



*friend from school who knows what she's doing

emsk, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

I can beat all these ILX0RZ in a 5k.

Maybe not...

I used to be under 17 minutes but that was half a life ago. I can break 20 now if I'm feeling very, very frisky.

Steve Shasta, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

wakeboard x-training??

river wolf, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:25 (eighteen years ago)

that is fast

and, okay, so running is great, and today running proved itself greater because:
i was able to run quite fast (in old sneakers) for over 5 min to get to the metro stn, where the train came right away, and if i hadn't caught it i would not be looking at my new(used) awesome guitar right now b/c i arrived at the seller's place 10 min before another v serious buyer. if ever i would say booya! it would be in this circumstance. or pos in a zombie war or non-combat competitive circumstance, in which running was involved.

rrrobyn, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:30 (eighteen years ago)

I think a booya is applicable in this situation.

Matt, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

I am bumping! this thread because I've managed to run (more like toddle, I suppose) for 3 kilometres (I feel arsey saying "k" but there is no stopping it). Happy!

On gym tv today = RUGGER.
In gym today = THREE extremely fit ex-colleagues (we're talking full marathon runnings, mountain trekkers etc) all on the treadmill in the row in front of me so I plastered very breezy grin on face as if nothing was hurting and I wasn't tired.

Actually to be honest the physicality of it isn't that bad (I always think this AFTER I HAVE FINISHED) but I am sure it will get worse when I start doing INTERVALS (in two weeks)!

Sarah, Monday, 26 March 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

i run things like noriega

That one guy that quit, Monday, 26 March 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

i went on a SPINNING class the other day.. haha, it was gruesome. trance and inspirational lady making you ride a bike as fast as you can and standing up. 20 minutes in and i felt like passing out! There was a moment where I seriously thought that it was my time to die. such pain, yet kind of fun hahaha. i was in the shower afterwards splashing water over my head to try to revive myself. and then zoned out in the sauna for 5 minutes that felt like 20.

er.. not much to do with running i guess! but i felt slightly fitter as a result.....

ken c, Monday, 26 March 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

Oh my! I want to try a spinning class - my gym does "spin for beginners" on Tuesdays which I want to try out, but I can't do it tomorrow as the beautician lady is going to try and do something about all my awful spots (and probably sell me lots of overpriced PRODUCT I am too scared to say no to). Next week though! Apparently you simulate whacking great big hills at mega-intensity and that is somehow GOOD for you - whatevers...

Sarah, Monday, 26 March 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

the worst thing about spinning class is by far the music

rrrobyn, Monday, 26 March 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha, i dunno - I was quite enjoying this DANCE version of 4 non blonde's What's going on! hahahhaahahaha it was kind of fun because singing along mindlessly was the ONLY WAY to cope with the extreme feelings of DEATH that was surrounding me.

ken c, Monday, 26 March 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

i have really misplaced, possibly lost, my taste for mindless music, that is the thing :/

i remember the days of doing freakin tae-bo to the dance remix of the friends theme song and not wanting to kill myself, enjoying it even. those days are gone.

i am going to go run today.

rrrobyn, Monday, 26 March 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

also, ken, imagining you in a spinning class kinda makes my morning - i hardly believe it and it makes me laugh (with not at)

rrrobyn, Monday, 26 March 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

okay a little bit at

rrrobyn, Monday, 26 March 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

hahahahaha i know! it is funny because i was actually there as part of a SECRET MYSTERY SHOPPING assignment and i thought i'd go and join the silliest class i can do! but now having been there i think i've developed a taste for it.

PLUS some girls in there are well fit. haha. although i don't think they are the kind of girls who are impressed by my contorted omg-i-am-gonna-like-die bike-face.

ken c, Monday, 26 March 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

I want to do a http://www.soldierfield10.com/ this summer. I've recently started running outside again. I can do about 3 miles right now 9min/m without stopping and having no ill effects afterwards. I have until may 26 to be ready for this. Can I do it?

Jeff, Monday, 26 March 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

yes!

river wolf, Monday, 26 March 2007 17:19 (eighteen years ago)

i've really got to start training. ridge run is going to KILL ME

river wolf, Monday, 26 March 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

you can do that one easily Jeff.

run a few times per week. Make one of those runs a "long run", and increase the distance by one mile each week on that run. Bingo, you're at 10 miles. looks like a fun run, too.

Dandy Don Weiner, Monday, 26 March 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

Does anyone here do interval training on a treadmill?
If so, do you change the speeds manually, or are there interval programs on the machine?

peepee, Monday, 26 March 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

In gym today = THREE extremely fit ex-colleagues (we're talking full marathon runnings, mountain trekkers etc) all on the treadmill in the row in front of me so I plastered very breezy grin on face as if nothing was hurting and I wasn't tired.


Oh man this is what I hate most about the gym! In my case, it's lots of off-season athletes running 10 mph and barely breaking a sweat. So discouraging. Good for you for keeping on, Sarah!

This thread inspired me to do a little bit of speed work on a treadmill this week - intervals of quarter and half miles at my personal slow and fast paces. If I can keep it up (i.e. keep dragging myself to the evil gym), I wonder how long it will take for my regular outdoor runs to get faster! Also this week I am going to DC, maybe I can run by some cherry blossoms or something! hahaha.

Maria, Monday, 26 March 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, this thread comes just as I've started dragging myself into the gym fairly regularly. It's been going well, I think - 3-4 times a week, at just over 3 miles in 30 minutes each time. My knees are starting to bother me now and again, though, so I've held off from pushing myself, even though stamina-wise I feel ready to. I've been icing the painful spots after runs, getting plenty of rest, doing stretches, and that gets rid of pain for a while, but it eventually seems to come back...

porcus dei, Monday, 26 March 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

you guys need to knock off this treadmill business

river wolf, Monday, 26 March 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

When you've got to run through puddles of slush and snow in the middle of the road because there's a foot of snow on the side, or you really want to make yourself run x mph, treadmills are pretty useful. Nowhere near as fun as outdoor runs, though!

Maria, Monday, 26 March 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

Agreed. I went for my first outside run of the year this weekend in Prospect Park and it was better in every way. I ran farther, the time flew by... but until the weather's a bit more reliable, I'll be sticking to treadmills.

porcus dei, Monday, 26 March 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

If you actually try running in 30 degree weather (less is too brutal, I agree), or in the rain, and even in the snow, you'll find you don't even notice it after the first 10 minutes (as long as you're dressed properly). It's the hot weather that hurts - the only time I use treadmills is when it's over the mid 80s. Seriously, I would say that a 60 minute treadmill run feels like at least 100 minutes. An hour outdoors feels like 35...

paulhw, Monday, 26 March 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

I agree with paulhw about the running on the treadmill vs. outside (I've got 4 miles of wonderful riverfront to run along), but its the cold/cool weather that I'm wimpy about. I much prefer to run in hot to very hot weather.

peepee, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

I think there might be some interval programmes on the treadmill but I haven't looked into them yet - at my gym there's quick pre-set speed buttons you can whack, 6kmph and 9kmph are the ones immediately to hand. I'm not sure whether I want to use those speeds for intervals. 9kmph is faster than I currently run (which is the *point*), but 6kmph might be a bit too slow to keep things up? Maybe not. The problem is that for the first couple of minutes of a fairly fast walk after a steady low run, the backs of my legs start to twinge and I'd probably find starting to run again harder - does this ring any bells with anyone?

I'm still too scared to run outside, this is rubbish I know. Am hoping to try and rope some running-friends into coming on a run with me in a couple of weeks time. Hopefully some companionship for my first run will make me less scared about doing some more by myself. After all I LIVE OPPOSITE A PARK for goodness sake...

Sarah, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

Having a good area to run is paramount for me. I hate running down sidewalks dodging pedestrians. This is my morning run. The scenery is great.

Jeff, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

Good grief! Where is that? How did you do that? How... could I do that? Do you need DEVICES?

I am always very impressed by impressive running gadgets, ie the iPod that links up to your trainers somehow!

Sarah, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah, I don't know where you are exactly, but if you're looking for people to start running with outside and you want some moral support, try and find your local 'running sisters' club. They're springing up all over the place and it's how my wife started training for Race For Lifes etc. Abilities range from people who can barely walk to good club level, you'll probably find you fit somewhere in the middle I think.

NickB, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

Chicago lake front. No devices used. Use http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/. Just zoom in real close and plot your path. Helps if you live in a place that has high resolution images on google maps.

Jeff, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

Jeff, thanks for the map program!

peepee, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, that's great! Once around my park is 0.45 miles, which is interesting to know!

Sarah, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

My route A:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=785843

peepee, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

(I don't think that I posted that correctly)

peepee, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

This is my park! Hallo!

URL for this route is: http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=806731

Sarah, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

I have promised myself I will go running this evening. I have trainers and a sports bra and the nights are lighter and the weather is warmer and I will die doing 5k in Battersea Park if I don't get some training in... so I have run out of excuses.

Anna, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

yay anna! it will be FUN! i promises...

emsk, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

If you actually try running in 30 degree weather (less is too brutal, I agree), or in the rain, and even in the snow, you'll find you don't even notice it after the first 10 minutes (as long as you're dressed properly). It's the hot weather that hurts - the only time I use treadmills is when it's over the mid 80s. Seriously, I would say that a 60 minute treadmill run feels like at least 100 minutes. An hour outdoors feels like 35...

This guy OTM. I know it rains on the Brits a lot more than here (300+ sunny days y'all), but the cold really shouldn't be an issue once you've got yr heart rate up.

But really, I just like running outside because it's more like playtime than some kind of chore, you know?

river wolf, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=806790

^^^^ usual route

river wolf, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

Hey thanks Jeff! My run to work - always wondered how far it was...
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=806940

NickB, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

Mwah hah hah, this thread is a stalker's dream....

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

you can get great training done on a treadmill, but I can't tolerate longer than 45 minutes or so without an iPod. I've run a few 15 mile runs on the treadmill that were mind-bogglingly horrible.

doing intervals on a treadmill is kind of a pain in the ass but not that hard. I like the treadmills that have a built in heart monitor. Using a heart monitor really makes training much more effective.

that gmap thing is awesome and I've got like 20 routes bookmarked.

Dandy Don Weiner, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

i love the gmapping
i mapped a route along the train tracks (gravel path) that is a little over 5k. i should just go run it now that the snow is probably pretty much gone along there. this issue i have about non-treadmill running is that i tend to always run too fast too soon. but i'm sure if i just run more outdoors and practice pacing, then it'll be fine, right? i would like a timing/heart-rate/pace technology thing but cannot afford and know it's not necessary. but i want one. or just a cheap digital watch maybe.

rrrobyn, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

you don't need a heart rate thing. but a cheap digital watch would be very helpful. You need to know how far you are running and how long it takes you. You can accomplish this with gmap and cheap digital watch. If you run too fast too soon, uh, slow down. Running with other people sometimes makes this easy...run at a pace where you can have a conversation comfortably, and that should help you go out slower.

Dandy Don Weiner, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

also i need to find the manual for my bionic legs - they keep jumping across ravines and over buildings and i'm all cut it out i am trying to run here

rrrobyn, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

This is my weekday morning run:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=807149

It's about 55-57 minutes

Thanks for the pedometer tip-off! It's great!

paulhw, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 22:33 (eighteen years ago)

[link Today I ran outside for the first time this year. It was rough. I went out too fast. Happy that I finished. Seemed to work slightly different muscles than on the treadmill. My time: 35:50]http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=808595[/link}

peepee, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 23:35 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha ha That's what I get for trying to do computer like thingies. Second attempt:

Today I ran outside for the first time this year. It was rough. I went out too fast. Happy that I finished. Seemed to work slightly different muscles than on the treadmill. My time: 35:50

peepee, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 23:37 (eighteen years ago)

this is turning into running sta1ker hub
running near water is nice. i have to bike a long way to get to water but am thinking of biking there and then running a loop and then biking back, e.g., bike most of this (incl the extra few km i didn't include btwn my house and the start point), which is along a canal, and then run the peninsula (which is nice b/c it has a path on both sides, like a loop). i think i need to recruit people to do this with me though b/c i can just see myself staying on the bike.

rrrobyn, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 23:54 (eighteen years ago)

or just doing this, which is a great bike ride along an actual bikes-only bike route that is covered in snow all winter and whoa i am so glad it is finally springtime
ok but back to running

rrrobyn, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 23:58 (eighteen years ago)

My routes, let me show you them.

Jeff, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 00:11 (eighteen years ago)

you can also do stuff like map out your hikes, like this one I did for going up Mt. Washington. Too bad it's a summer satellite picture instead of the winter hike I did.

Dandy Don Weiner, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 00:24 (eighteen years ago)

IT DOES ELEVATION PROFILES?????????

river wolf, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 00:32 (eighteen years ago)

:D

river wolf, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 00:32 (eighteen years ago)

FUCK YES!!!!!

So awesome. I'll have to dig up some of my hillier bookmarks...I live in a very hilly area so most of my runs and rides have huge climbs.

Dandy Don Weiner, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 00:35 (eighteen years ago)

Rad. This is the race I'm training for:

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=808787

...there should be about an extra five miles of switchbacks in there.

don: you live in NH?

river wolf, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 00:41 (eighteen years ago)

better map

river wolf, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 00:42 (eighteen years ago)

no, I live in Atlanta but hike up Mt. Washington every winter. I've run four marathons but now am doing triathlons.

Dandy Don Weiner, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 00:59 (eighteen years ago)

No worries about elevation changes over here.

river wolf: that last miles looks pretty steep, but at least downhill. The cool thing is that you get more oxygen near the end of the trek.

peepee, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 01:13 (eighteen years ago)

That looks like a great run. Needless to say, start slow!

NickB, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 08:00 (eighteen years ago)

how was it anna? i am going running tonight. and i went on monday. am shocked at my motivation.

emsk, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 08:52 (eighteen years ago)

Emsk - I think I might die doing this. I went this morning (8.00am) and instead of feeling all good and endorphin-y like I do with swimming I felt awful. In fact it's now midday and I still feel like I want to throw up. Plus I am dealing with all the psycological scarring caused by years of bitch games teachers which is now resurfacing. I'm going to have to step things up somehow....

Anna, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 11:00 (eighteen years ago)

no no no! just don't go first thing in the morning! your muscles can be up to 20% shorter when you wake up than they are when you've been up and about for a few hours, and after a little exercise/stretching they can lengthen again by up to 20% - that's a 40% difference! and your body isn't energetic and up for it and all that first thing in the morning. i read about it then my pt told me it then i experienced it - srsly, all the runs we've done except one have been at 8/9 at night, and the one we did at 11am was by far the hardest. train in the night! or afternoon! or lunchtime! (would do this with you except there is nowhere to run around here afaik, some ppl go from work but i think they go to the gym ick blech yuck but i'll ask in case)

don't be dispirited...

emsk, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 11:05 (eighteen years ago)

ok i asked her, she goes to the gym BUT she suggested regents park - duh why did we not think of that. ok, anna - friday lunchtime, you, me, 2 pairs of trainers, regents park? or i could do tomorrow.

emsk, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 11:22 (eighteen years ago)

Em - next week maybe - give me chance to at least not want to cry while I'm doing it. I was going to go yesterday evening, but I didn't get home until about 8.30 and it was dark then.

Anna, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 11:33 (eighteen years ago)

sorry i am being tigger aren't i. i'll stop.

emsk, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 12:37 (eighteen years ago)

Oh noes Anna :( I think, maybe, you could have been going a bit too fast? When I upped the speed on the treadmill (as you can from upthread) I felt terrible too - not just physically but also emotionally! Since then I have stuck to a slower speed and it's been fine and all weepy urges have ceased thank goodness. But I really did feel horrible. In fact I'm still dreading the time when it comes to start doing intervals. Urgh.

PS I've actually found exercising in the mornings fine! Great in fact, it gives you a good energy boost. I actually read you're more efficient in the morning, and you should be stretching before you run ANYWAY (I actually do not do this! I just go on the cross trainer for a bit and hope that does the stretchy/warm up work for me)...

Sarah, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 12:45 (eighteen years ago)

i just ran outside for the first time in, like, freakin ever, years. it was GREATTT. and better than the treadmill, yes, even though i like the treadmill - time went by much faster, BUT i also ran too fast at first, as i knew i would. so i had to have a 2min walk in the middle. i did 4.166k (haha gmap tells all), along a gravel path and then through a park and back, took 28 or 29 min (then i did some neighbourhood walking cooldown), so not fast overall but whatever! it is not a competition. and the sun is out!

(fur immer is totally good pacing song but of course it didn't come on until 20 min mark... uh)

rrrobyn, Saturday, 31 March 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
I started jogging a couple of months ago, and I usually do between 2 and 2.5 miles, which I feel pretty good about. Today I went down to Poplar / the edge of the Isle of Dogs to watch the marathon runners at around the 20-mile mark, because my brother was running in it. I saw Elvis, Superman, Spiderman, a Cyberman, Fred Flintstone, Scooby Doo, a tiger, and this bottle of beer
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r299/crunchydog_2006/P4221428CROPTEMPRESIZE.jpg
run past me at a much faster pace than I can manage for my 2 miles.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

The Soldier field 10 mile run are full :((((((((999

There is some sort of organized running event nearly every weekend here though, I'll find something. Probably shorter.

Jeff, Sunday, 22 April 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

i have still been running regularly.
i even got a slight sunburn on friday! uh. but i think i have a running partner now, which is fun.
also, yoga 4x/wk! so helpful, to life

rrrobyn, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:13 (eighteen years ago)

I have started doing 'intervals', where I alternate running at 9.2kmph for one min and then sloooow back down to lovely gentle plod at 8.0kmph for 2mins. And I repeat this for 24 minutes! It is really quite a strange experience, the first time I tried this, I completed it but was in a complete STATE afterwards, the second time I was feeling really negative and just couldn't do it, TODAY it was absolutely fine and I am very happy with myself! It just seems quite random, although it's become quite clear that I do much better exercising around lunchtime rather than the evenings.

I have quite a horrible fascination with checking my clothes for amount of SWEAT produced after a run. It is LOADS. Butterfly patterns all over the back etc. Groo!

My total is now around 3.8 kilometres 'run'/plodded in er, 24 mins of run/jogging and then a 5 minute walk at decreasin' speeds. I'm slightly terrified that the interval schedule that I'm attempting to follow has me going for 27 minutes next week. But, I suppose that's only one more 'set', actually! I will just have to put out of my head that it's almost HALF AN HOUR of running, argh the fear. I'm going to stick to these speeds until I've extended up to 40 minutes (or gone for a distance of 5km, whichever is first). Big fear of upping speed time, but I suppose that isn't even worth worrying about at the moment whilst I'm still at such a low level.

PS - am going to invest in 'proper' running shoes (GAIT ANALYSIS!) after payday.

Sarah, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

It's time to start...RUNNING

blueski, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

HOOVER NOISES HOOVER NOISES

CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

big ridge run registration filled up overnight, while i was sleeping ;_;


i guess i'll do medical sweep, which involves less running (cuz you got backpacks wif med supplies) but longer distance cuz you have to go down and back up side trails ugh

still wanna train for SOMEthing, though

river wolf, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

Charlie if you think I am going to run shoving a pushalong hoover in front of me as I go then... I think I've got a potential marathon gimmick!!

River Wolf how about you race ME! Erm, I will race to the shop round the corner for a packet of crisps, and you start swimming NOW (and you will still probably beat me arf arf).

Sarah, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

i'd have to get to the ocean first :-/

and google sez 29 days

river wolf, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

Your country be funny! 29 days from the sea! Imagine! I could get on the wrong train tonight and be at the sea within a couple of hours! In fact, WHY DO I NOT DO THIS MORE, IDIOT. I am sure that having a run on the beach would actually be quite awesome!

OK, if you don't want to race me to the shops, how about doing one of the freaky ULTRA MARATHONS eg http://www.comrades.com/home.asp?id=123. Madness I tell you.

Sarah, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

(Oh, it would take me 299999999 days to RUN to the sea I imagine).

Sarah, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

2 March 2007 - I could just do 2.5km...

But today, 2 May 2007, I did 4.2km! (this is over 27 mins - including a cool down walk at the end so that's er just over half an hour).

(And whilst I was an unpleasantly sweaty mess it didn't absolutely kill me! Very pleased w/ progress. Of course NEXT week I am scheduled to lengthen my 'fast' running intervals but am quietly confident it's within my capabilities. Awesome!)

Sarah, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

bigtime!

river wolf, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

I am orf to the shop to get some 'proper' running shoes tomorrow - I will post up a PICTURE when I get them! I need a picture of me in my P.E kit for my charity sponsorship page (hooray an excuse to buy new gear - at the moment I am wearing a pair of getting on a bit tracksuit bottoms previously used for lounging round house in and feel quite ashamed when everyone else at Posh Gym has Stella McCartney accessories/smart leggins and shorts. Hello, I am a bit shallow :)).

Sarah, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

haha, my running/biking/workout clothes have remained basically unchanged for, like, 7 years. why change now? there's just gonna stank anyway

river wolf, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

Hehe! However on saying that I can't be arsed with those technical tops - MOISTURE WICKING! - I doubt you need those unless you are like marathon style good - I wear a £1 primark vest!

The only real problem with the trackie bottoms is that they are quite thick and fairly long so I'd like some lighter ones.

On another clothing related point, I have started to note lots of fellow gym goers wearing their various race-giveaway t-shirts - am tempted to nick one of those Run London 10k ones as bravado. (I am aware I haven't actually managed to run 5km yet but I have wanted to rep for South London ever since I heard about those races YEAAAAH GO TEAM SOUTH LONDON)!

Sarah, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

jeff yr from chicago right? let me know if you find anything, i'm interested in doing some kind of run but don't have the patience for a marathon. i've been running about 2 miles a day for awhile

deej, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

that is rad abt the progress, s :)

am going for a run soon today!

(i will one day shell out for new shoes/gear but the ones i have now are not as dead as they could be and so will do)

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

i think wicking shirts and shorts are worth it in summer esp (i am realy good at sweating) - there are some cheaper, generic-brand ones to be found!

rrrobyn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

g'luck emsk!

CharlieNo4, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

Oh really? I will have a look at their clothing range and see what's there! I do produce quite a lot of moisture. When I'm getting changes I look at the back of the vest and think where the heck did all that manage to come from!

Haha also U&K = some sort of shorts or trousers with a pocket! There are some here:
http://www.runandbecome.com/html/clothing/w_lycra.htm
So I have hope I shd be able to find something ok.

Sarah, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

do wicking shirts help at all with the smell of sweat? i know a lot of runners who run right before dinner, and then just come in, get their food, and sit down with friends at a table, and it confuses me because i can't do that, i need to shower, or i'd probably make everyone lose their appetites. (sorry if this is tmi.)

Maria, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)


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