Chicago: Will There Be Food on the Southside?

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― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

Reposted:

I listened to the results of CHILX All-Star Jam #1 last night and they sounded a lot better than they thought they would. The recording sounds kind of fucked up but in a cool way - the drums and the keyboard are distorted but nice and fuzzy and analog. The take of the actual song is good, but I'm also pretty happy with the two "jams" I recorded. I'll put them online this afternoon/evening so people can hear what we've got going so far.

n/a on Monday, 12 March 2007 12:25 (30 minutes ago)

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 12:56 (eighteen years ago)

Oops. Sorry, wasn't trying to lose your announcement.

BTW, I love this ad campaign (website features"currency converter" and "translator" tools) but I wasn't aware of this: [link Sox 'Southside Board of Tourism' campaign upsets street gang of same name]http://www.theheckler.com/news/templates/?a=697&z=24[link]. That's actually a pretty menacing name for a gang. Surprising and provocative quotes inside.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)

SHOOT.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theheckler.com%2Fnews%2Ftemplates%2F%3Fa%3D697%26z%3D24&ei=D1D1RZGYMpaQigHq9rgB&usg=__RBazgNNxBPmcJF8MHLkdIclxbhI=&sig2=3lZ5MXv0ZWrSwhCzEghCTw

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:11 (eighteen years ago)

"In our neighborhood, you don't just take a gang's name and use it to make jokes," said Ralph "Crusher" Wolfe, longtime gang member. "All I have to say is the public relations department for the team better watch their back."

Bill Brieghton, director of media relations for the White Sox, reiterated the club's longtime support of all gangs.

"Anyone who has ever attended a White Sox game knows we welcome all forms of thieves, vandals, and gang members," said Brieghton. "Our gift shop includes Sox caps of every color to ensure you can support your favorite team while still adhering to the colors of your gang."

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:17 (eighteen years ago)

PLEASE! COME TO THE S.SIDE! SEE REAL GANGEROS AT A BASEBALL GAME!

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

Sharks have new songs on their MySpace if anyone else wants to listen. They are awesome.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

Ooh, I want to hear CHILX Jam.

I spent my weekend in Milwaukee. I love Milwaukee.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

I want to go back to Milwaukee someday.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

What's so great about Milwaukee? I was there for a day, but spent most of it in a bookstore that another ILXite was excited about. They spent like 3 hours there! Then we ate at Beans and Barley, which was tasty.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

Did you know that this year Chicago's Polar Bear Club couldn't swim?? The lake was frozen solid, and despite hacking away at it with a pick axe, they couldn't get to water. So they rolled around on top of the ice like hairless seals. One guy stayed for 27 minutes.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

What's so great about Milwaukee?

I don't know. Fun bars, fun people, cute hipster girls, nostalgia if you happened to go to high school there.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

That wasn't meant to sound so challenging.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:44 (eighteen years ago)

Sitting on the rocks next to Lake Michigan was also nice.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

Milwaukee: come sit on our rocks.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

Best rock-sittin' in the Midwest.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

You know what's really nice? Riunite on ice, that's what.

― Jenny, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

I might be wrong, but I am pretty sure The Heckler is a Cubs-specific Onion-style satire paper.

― Jenny, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

I think it's Chicago sports-specific, but it is "satirical."

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

In response to this thread's titular question, my mind always answers, "There are no cigarettes in the bibllllleeee."

― Jenny, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

OH. Well, I guess I don't GET irony....

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

I feel like a douchebag.

But seriously, can't you easily picture a gang calling themselves that?

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

No? Maybe you just don't get gangs, either.

― Jenny, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse ... a gang called "The Southside Chicago Board of Tourism"? :(

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

Courtney's email to me this morning:

"I'm never going to the Southside again."

Apparently the parade did her in, and she couldn't find any drinks. Which seems odd at an Irish parade.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

FUCK YOU ALL. IT'S OVER.

This is what I get for getting up before 9:30. The irony filter wasn't funcitoning at full capacity.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SO **STUPID**!?

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

Eh, I can see how, if you don't know/care about sports and hence ignore most sports journalism, that the absurdity of the Heckler could appear to be sincere sports reporting, which can get pretty darn absurd.

― Jenny, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

We don't have to talk about it anymore.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

If it'll make you feel better, yesterday when we were playing music I used the word "scaredom" because I couldn't think of the word I wanted.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

nick, did you have a hand in the new shark demos???

― gbx, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

Hey you guys, guess how much my ziploc bag of pocket change was worth at the bank!? Just guess.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

$40

― kenan, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

what's the street value of a ziploc bag?

― gbx, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

Fun bars, fun people, cute hipster girls,

I like Milwaukee because going there really feels like going far away, even though it's only a 90-minute drive. And, it's true, the counterculture has a more deliberate style up there than here. Or maybe it's just that the punks are more committed. Last time I was there, I saw a guy with tattoos on his shaved head. If Reckless had a branch in Milwaukee, I bet everyone working there would look like London 1981, in the best way.

I like: the bowling alley (w/ underground arcade); Pizza Shuttle; the Egyptian movie theater (like the Music Box); the art museum; Brewed Awakenings; very cheap rent; the beaches 1 hour north of there.

I've been to the world-famous custard stand, but I don't remember getting anything there.

― Eazy, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

$113!!

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

I want to go back to Milwaukee with some of you people because you make it sound like fun. We went for a wedding two summers ago and it seemed okay but we were all caught up in wedding-related activities and didn't get to do much else.

― Jenny, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

Brewed Awakenings

I think this place (formerly Anodyne) just closed. My friend Cam has the bar from it in his kitchen.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/82/383959533_4e2332fba4.jpg?v=0

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

There is a Brewed Awakenings in Newark, Delaware.

― Jenny, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

the Egyptian movie theater

Do you mean the Oriental???

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

I had nothing to do with the new Sharks recordings, which is why they sound all clean and shiny and produced. It's nice to hear their own vision of how they hear their songs, and I think they did a great job.

I only spent a like half a day total in Milwaukee. We played a weird attic show in someone's house where I was scared the whole time the floor was going to collapse, then we had to come back a day or so later because Ben left his cymbals there. We had to hang out for a while waiting for someone to come home to let us in, and we found this artsy store selling local clothing and whatnot that also had a tiny kitten. We got coffee a couple of times and looked in a record store. Basically it seemed like a cheaper, even lower-key version of Chicago.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

Oops, I meant the Oriental. (The Egytpian in in Seattle - same style.) My good friend Atom (from high school) opened Brewed Awakenings in '94 or so (he sold it, moved to Chicago, and opened At0mix later). I always liked that place.

― Eazy, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

I think At0mix is the place where we got coffee a couple of times. It was weird because we drove the hour or so to Milwaukee, and that was the first place where we went, and as soon as we walked in I saw 90 D@y M3n/local scenester R0b L0we (who now works at my video store). It was like we hadn't left Chicago.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

My good friend Atom (from high school) opened Brewed Awakenings in '94 or so (he sold it, moved to Chicago, and opened At0mix later).

Huh, I know one of the owners roomed with the tuba player from my band in college. Small world, whether it's the same guy or not.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

He opened Brewed Awakenings with three (?) other people, who left and sold their share one at a time. It was the first or second coffee shop anywhere in the city. The other one is Fuel (maybe that's the one you're thinking of, Nick), which I had never seen until last summer and seemed kind of ordinary, but maybe what I saw as ordinary was an industrial style when it opened.

― Eazy, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah, it was Fuel.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

who now works at my video store

north coast? robert is a really nice guy.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

Yes. He seems nice. Most of the dudes that work there are really nice, actually.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

NICE NICE NICE

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

Now, Riunite on ice? That's nice.

― Jenny, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

I am bored. I want to be at home playing with the 8-track. Not at work.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

I went to Jumping Bean Cafe this morning for mexi hot chocolate and breakfast and was v. late to work. I don't care, though, because I have been pulling extra hours for 3 weeks now.

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

Playing yesterday was fun, you guys. I sucked less than I thought I would!

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

I'm at home. The couple times I've been to Fuel (when we've played at Onopa Brewery, now Stonefly) what's impressed me is that it seemed like a real hangout for the under-21 punk and hipster crowd. I can't think of any coffee shops in Chicago that would qualify. Like, the Bourgeois Pig is definitely a DePaul hangout, but it's more of a college-sweatshirt crowd than a multiple-piercing crowd.

― jaymc, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

hey, eBay is blocked here but if someone can get to it would they do me a favor and see if there's a copy of "kings of basement rock" by the penetrators on there? LP not cd. i've only found one copy and it's more than i want to pay for it.

THANKS.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

Buy It Now price: US $25.00

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

holy shit really??

i'll buy it for that!

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

i don't know why i'm bothering, it will be gone by the time i get home. : (

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

Hot girls work at Fuel.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

It says there are 4 available.

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

haha xpost

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

Playing was fun. I think next time, instead of micing the instruments individually, I might just set up 3 or 4 ambient room mics and spend a little more time making sure the levels are even within the room. It wouldn't allow for much post-production but would make it easier to be spontaneous while recording, as people could pick up noisemakers or sing without me having to fumble around with setting up more mics.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

I am bored. I want to be at home playing with the 8-track. Not at work.

2x. I need a two week vacation to watch BSG season 3, the Wire season 1 (started last week), and finish my drum tracks for the record. It's not so much to ask.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

Oh I forgot to mention that one of the new Sharks songs ("Promises") has Jody W. on vocals.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

is it just me or does barack obama have a frank sinatra thing going on in this picture:

http://www.chicagoist.com/attachments/chicagoist_kevinr/obamasmoking.jpg

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

Is that cigarette photoshopped? I mean, I know Obama smokes, but that looks suspicious.

― jaymc, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

http://altura.speedera.net/ccimg.catalogcity.com/220000/226000/226042/Products/15073947.jpg

I think it's the way that his head is turned.

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

it's the bedroom eyes. Ring-a-ding-ding.

― kenan, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.sandiegoserenade.com/images/frank_sinatra.jpg

― Eazy, Monday, 12 March 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

Goddammit when I get back from lunch there is supposed to be interesting stuff for me to read on this thread.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

I listened to Television on the way down to Milwaukee. I can see why they get name-checked all the time, it sounds like a new record. Also the guy's voice kept making me think of Gordon Gano.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

^^^Him and the CYHSY guy.

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

Vet just called, Comrade Kitka is awake and sterile. :>

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

Dude from CYHSY always gets compared to David Byrne, which I don't hear at all. Tom Verlaine makes more sense.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

I'm listening to the new Ponys album. I've never heard them before, this is pretty decent.

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

All I remember about the CYHSY dude is that he's short.

Things I like Television:

--drummer is good and overplays in interesting ways

--guitars leave room for the bass!

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

But shouldn't they be the Ponies? This just occured to me, I'm sure it's been brought up before...

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

Dude from CYHSY always gets compared to David Byrne, which I don't hear at all.

srsly? I think his weirder vocal flights of fancy are yanked from Byrne and nothing but. I hear Verlaine, too, that makes sense.

― kenan, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

Byrne's whole thing is being flat and affectless most of the time, whereas CYHSY dude is all quavery and nasal.

HEY SHOULDNT THE BEATLES BE THE BEETLES? SHOULDNT THE MONKEES BE THE MONKEYS?

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

isn't fiction fake already???

― river wolf, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

SHOULDN'T RADIOHEAD BE GAYDIOHEAD

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

sigh

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

Plus Byrne enunciates and CYHSY dude doesn't.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

Wow. Nada for 46 minutes?

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

Why must everyone break out the flip-flops as soon as it gets almost spring-like?

I think tomorrow I may walk home from work.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

Why must everyone break out the flip-flops as soon as it gets almost spring-like?

This made me happy last night at the club in DeKalb.

― jaymc, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

I had no jacket on at lunch!

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

My walk home would be 7.6 miles. What do you think? 2.5 hours?

Unless I change my get bored an change my mind and get on the bus. What with no iPod, this might happen.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

i've been busybusybusy today keeping my posting to a minimum but it was delightful to cut across the grass this morning and have the ground be SQUISHY beneath my feet! NO MORE FROZEN SOD!!! is it really going to be 67 on wednesday? then 33 by friday?

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

I just found out that the Edgewater Lounge is already booked for Saturday the 24th. Where should I have my birthday party instead? I want it to be relatively close to my place. K's Dugout? Leadway?

― jaymc, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

The Driftwood.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

No.

― jaymc, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

Eagle.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

Melon Shakers.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

Admiral?

T's?

Opart w/ byob?

― Eazy, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

I had brunch with Sayjal yesterday. She is going to be in another Sonic Commercial. Keep an eye open in about 6 months!

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

[image]http://www.barchicago.com/images/VipBirthdayClub.jpg[/iimage]

― Eazy, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.barchicago.com/images/VipBirthdayClub.jpg

― Eazy, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

WHIRLYBALL

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

my boss is the architect who designed the whirlyball place!

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

Whirlyball is fun.

― Eazy, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

according to gapers block you can drink beer while shopping at the new whole foods at peterson & cicero. while that in and of itself may not be enough to get me to shop there i certainly do hope it is ushering a new era in the grocery store experience.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

Does Gaper's Block know what's being built on Elston across from the former Cub Foods? It's in between Home Depot and Target. If'n it's a Whole Foods or Trader Joe's I might have to go there for convenience's sake alone...

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

WTF is whirleyball?

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

The J/J unit might be interested in this-- Whole Foods is opening a new location somewhere around the IHOP at Halstead and Broadway.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

it won't be a whole foods, the next one opening is in jeff & jenny's hood.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

that's the one.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

which is close enough to jeff & jenny's hood for my purpose.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan, I think you'd like Whirlyball. It's basically rugby + baskeyball + bumper cars.

Two teams of five, each in a bumper car. You've got something resembling a small lacrosse stick. You try to catch the ball in your net and whirl it into what looks like a netless basketball backboard. If it hits the middle, your team scores a point. You're strapped into your bumper car the whole time.

― Eazy, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

I was just reading Gaper's Block and i misread this, and had a moment of shock and sadness.

Andy Sidaris, Pioneer of the Honey Shot, is Dead

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

whirlyball

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

Whirleyball sounds fucking awesome.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

i saw that this morning and in my pre-coffee haze i read it as "amy sedaris".

but god bless andy and his "honey shot".

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

Agility. Speed. Strength. None of these qualities will be of any use in the highly-competitive world of WhirlyBall. Although it combines lacrosse, hockey and basketball with bumper cars, WhirlyBall has caused great athletes of every stripe to laugh and holler their way to a crushing defeat.

If you choose to accept the challenge, you’ll use hand-held scoops to propel whiffle balls at your scoring target. In a team of five, and with the help of a professional referee, you’ll have a bang-up time trying to outscore the competition.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, I read "Amy" as well. I was aghast.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

I HATE WHIRLYBALL.

― jaymc, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

;_;

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

I HATE WHIRLYBALL.

jaymc on Monday, March 12, 2007 1:28 PM (31 seconds ago)

...shocker???

― river wolf, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, right, we've been over this.

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

Have we? It's impossible to steer and it gives me a headache from all the ruthless bumping. Do not want.

― jaymc, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, who is river wolf?

― jaymc, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

Who Can't Play
People with the following conditions are not permitted to play:

Under 4’6” in height and younger than 12 years old
Cardiac Disease
Intoxication
Pregnant Women
Major Neck or Back Problems

i'm out.

kind of defeats the purpose.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder if they have a whirlybreathalyzer

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

Whirly Under the Influence.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

balling under the influence?

sounds like...

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

Under 4’6” in height

I'm out too.

Whuzzup. It's midterms week. We have our computer back. It's crazy nice outside. I can't stop eating.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

you are not that wee.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.musicobsession.com/Pictures/o/x/oxo8161.jpg

Front cover:
http://www.vinyltap.co.uk/gallery/ox/oxoo64141246252750.jpg

― Eazy, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

You are correct. If I keep eating like this, I will not be even in the neighborhood of wee.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

Where exactly is the neighborhood of Wee?

John?

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

So what have I missed? Anything exciting ?

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

Has anyone noticed the Wiseman retrospective going on in conjunction with the Chicago Doc fest? D and I have seen most of them but we're going to see High School 2, Ballet, and Domestic Violence (which I saw once already, but it was on PBS at 2am and I was not feeling particularly lucid.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

)

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

hadn't noticed but i'm psyched for the doc fest! a friend of mine works at f@cets so she's gonna get us free tix, can't wait!

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, you're making it harder and harder for me to stay friends with you.

― jaymc, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

I AM JUST KIDDING!!!!!

Seriously, that was not a jibe.

I'm sorry.

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

Why do they always show the same Wiseman movies?!? I want to see:
Meat
Monastery
Near Death
State Legislator (it's new and maybe not being shown yet?)

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

It's okay, it just seems like most of your comments directed at me lately have been hostile.

― jaymc, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

I would be excited to see some of those Wiseman films. Public Housing is really good. I'd like to see the Comedie Francaise one.

― Eazy, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

(As usual, I am probably being too sensitive.)

I have been converting all my songs on cassette to mp3 (well, aiff first) today -- but I think I should get outside while it's still nice.

― jaymc, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

Seriously, no offense.

I just was so taken with the potential humor there that I lost restraint!

― Jesse, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

Public Housing is AMAZING. And amazingly long. Also great: Welfare, Hospital, the other obvious classix.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

I saw High School and Titicut Follies at Siskel a few years ago.

― jaymc, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

But what about MEAT? How could anyone resist programming a screening of a movie called Meat?

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

i'm on the fence about whether or not i want to see titticutt follies. growing up in massachusetts i remember the hue and cry (and subsequent court battles) when that movie was banned from being shown in the commonwealth. so it's tempting to see what it was all about. then i realize how utterly, utterly depressing the movie must be in order for the state to react so harshly.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, I'm out of the loop wrt documentaries.

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

It's stark and unpleasant, but a great movie. There were only a couple of times I had to avert my eyes.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

Dude has like 50 movies, none of which are available for home viewing. You can't blame yourself for being out of the loop. You have to either catch them at festivals like this or on PBS, where most of them were originally shown.

The poster for Titicut is terrifying, I will say that.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

my uncle richard is austistic and lived in a state home out in central mass and i can remember going there with my dad a few times and just being fully, totally, and completely freaked the fuck out so i'm not sure i want to a) bring up those memories again or b) imagine that my uncle richard was subjected to the same kind of conditions as existed in bridgewater.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c5/Titicut_Follies.jpg

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

Whoa. I completely understand why you would not want to watch it.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

actually, i think i really should now.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

I am just about ready to upload the CHILX jam posse songs but I need a name for our "band."

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

I will revise my former hyperbolic statements to now say that the recordings sound "interesting," the kind of interesting that I think sounds awesome but that other people will probably think sounds shitty.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

The kind of interesting where the drums are so loud that they clip the other tracks.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

oops

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

(story of my life)

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

The kind of interesting where the drums are so loud that they clip the other tracks.

That's my kind of interesting.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

I actually didn't think your drumming was that loud at all!

― jaymc, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

So what is the band name?

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

Boops

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

Oh it wasn't that the drumming was actually loud, it's more that I managed to somehow record them really really loud, even though I thought I had checked the levels. My guess is that the drums were leaking in through all the mics, which is where the distorting happened.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Names:

Chicago Dub All-Stars
Meat Renaissance
FUNZONE!
The Real Truths

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

The Thirsty Thursdays

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

Blooper Reel

― Eazy, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe some folks can suggest band names based on our sound, once it's posted.

― Eazy, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

Fresh Yin

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

Fresh Yin!

― Eazy, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

Marv and the Marvytones

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

OK I picked a temporary band name and song names.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

Hmm something interesting is happening with my external hard drive.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

<i>Hmm something interesting is happening with my external hard drive.</i>

I hope this is a name for a band or song.

― Eazy, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

Oh nevermind I figured it out.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

So ... I can't access the blog because it was switched over to Dan's gmail account. I guess I'll just post the link on here when it's ready.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, what??

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

FUCK YOU DAN!!!!!

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

j/k

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

When I tried to log into the blog, it said it had switched the account over to a google account, and the login name was your email address.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

Anyways, here are the jams.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

that should be the band name right there nick, PALACE COUP.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

in light of dan's brazen power-grab of chilx blog control.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

Tyrant.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

I will download tonight and see if I have anything to add.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

Oh I don't know if you want to do that yet, Jordan, I think we might rerecord later. But if you just want to do it for fun, go ahead.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

Shit guys, I'm sorry. It asked me for my email address last time I posted and I thought that was it. I'll set up a fake GM@il account and make that the default blog address. Back in a few.

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

Oh ok, I'll wait.

I need to nurse my laptop through ripping & e-mailing a bunch of New Orleans tunes anyway, because the Kid Jordan Second Line has our first gig this weekend.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

I love how Dan's "back in a few" makes it sound like he's going to take the car & run to the gmail store & maybe pick up a gallon of milk on his way back.

Maybe it's just me.

― sweet tater, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

Shit guys, I'm sorry. It asked me for my email address last time I posted and I thought that was it. I'll set up a fake GM@il account and make that the default blog address.

riiiiiiight, likely story dan. i suppose it will be a coincidence that the default "fake GM@il account" for the blog will be danmartinisawesomeanddon'tyouforgetit@gma!l.com

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

I like those songs. They sound like all the stuff I hear when I go in Reckless.

― Eazy, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

MOTHERFUCKING BLOGGER

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

because i am behind the times, i will say that i have never been to milwaukee but would love to go sometime. a friend of mine said that there's a bar where you can get veggie buffalo wings.

When did they go from wing dings to buffalo wings, anyway? Was it the addition of a spicy sauce?

― sweet tater, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

What's a wing ding?

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

So here's a boring question ... I have to leave to go to Midway to pick up Sarah. Her flight's arriving at 7. Should I take 90/94 to 55, or should I take Damen all the way south to 55? Is traffic going to be crazy on 90/94?

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, the "new" Blogger, where you're supposed to have a Gmail account to log into won't let you change your login to a different Gmail account. What a clusterfuck. Sorry guys, I guess I blew it.

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

I'm imagining traffic will be pretty crazy, considering this is the first full week of the latest round of Dan Ryan crap. Who knows how that's going to trickle down to affect the other roads.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

RIP chilx.blogspot

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

Nick I'm reasonably sure the turnoff from 90/94 to 55 is before the real construction/traffic insanity starts on the Ryan. At that time you'll probably be safe...

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

Also why the fuck can't I check to see if Sarah's flight is on time either on AirTran site or on the Midway site? Both are fucked up.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

Dan, we'll all need your e-mail password now.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

nick, take 290 to cicero, take cicero all the way down. cicero is 2 (in places 3) lanes wide in either direction so traffic really moves.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

I might just take Damen for fun. More to look at.

― n/a, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

i hear you. i did that once and decided to take central back to the high way (this was when i was living in oak park). turns out not every street goes all the way through because of the damn railroad tracks.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

Last time I went to Midway I just took Cicero, 'cause it was at like 8:30 in the morning. It was a breeze.

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

:( I feel some affection for chilx.blogspot.com.

Oh well.

I go on LSD and 55 3x a week and haven't had a problem yet.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

If anyone else wants to start a new Blogger thing (I am so pissed at it right now I don't think I can) the address I set up is: chilxors (at symbol) gmail (dot thingy) com and the passwd is the same as the old chilx.blogspot passwd.

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

wing dings are like buffalo wings but without the sauce. my brother used to order them from a bar whenever my parents would go out for the night & leave us money for dinner.

― sweet tater, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sorry Amanda! I knew not what I was doing! ;_;

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

Is La Lechera Amanda?

― sweet tater, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny's Riunite on ice reminds me of my favorite teevee jingle.

"Can I? Yes you can. Anytime.
C-A-N-E-I...Canei wine."

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

A small-town bar I was at recently had "chicken paddles". I was curious, but not that curious.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

Yes it is! It's me, McGee.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

EZ should write a song called "Chicken Paddles"

― sweet tater, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

I'm gonna punch you in the knee so hard next time I see you, Dan Martini. Brace yo'self.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

Hi amanda!!

― sweet tater, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

HI!

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

Amanda is now 2 feet tall.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

Oh wow, you can hear the bass drum pedal squeak on the first track! At least that's what it sounds like to me.

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

That's so Bonham, dude.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

If I decide that I need to visit chicago to find a wedding dress, wanna go dress/shoe/and/or makeup shopping with me?

― sweet tater, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

I've been away from the computer because I've actually been in a shrink machine. I am now 18 inches tall and 15 inches wide.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

Kels -- YES, but only if it's just the two of us. I won't share.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

I'm out y'all, peas.

― Jordan, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

Fair enough!

― sweet tater, Monday, 12 March 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

Don't let my selfishness kill our riveting discussion, here folks. Fwiw, I don't do well in large groups.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 22:00 (eighteen years ago)

Nice comma. I am such a moron. At 1:12 AM today I woke up in a panic because of a typo on my midterm.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

That's ok, I don't do well going dress/shoe/and/or makeup shopping.

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

Well, shoes I can deal with, but not girly shoes.

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

footwear misogyny kills thread

either that or 5PM

― dan m, Monday, 12 March 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

i'm still here.

i was just thinking about how i am going to prevent myself from going to the p-fork festival this year. last year was just this side of OK and i just don't know that i want to spend another 2+ days sitting around feeling moderately bored and wishing i were somewhere else.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 22:13 (eighteen years ago)

Ok, on that exciting note, I'm leaving now.

― La Lechera, Monday, 12 March 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

I just mauled a grapefruit.

― jaymc, Monday, 12 March 2007 22:34 (eighteen years ago)

How does one get a boss to stop dumping last minute projects on your desk after five that need to be completed same day?

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 12 March 2007 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

[u]Skipping 134 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.[/u]

YOU PEOPLE ARE NVTS.

I'm not clicking, so I'm just guessing, but if Dan accidentally affiliated the Chilx blog with his personal email, if we set up another chilx blog, we can probably export the entries from the old blog to the new one.

― Jenny, Monday, 12 March 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

I see we don't underline words around here.

― Jenny, Monday, 12 March 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

I dunno Jon... how essential are you? Because you could start with, "Hi dere boss no more priority items on my desk after five, okay good?" and if that didn't work, just, you know, leave. But then you might get fired.

― Jenny, Monday, 12 March 2007 22:56 (eighteen years ago)

Ha, yeah, that might not work out so well.

I just wish it didn't happen with such regularity, boss = not so good at prioritizing and delegating.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 12 March 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

― Jenny, Monday, 12 March 2007 23:04 (eighteen years ago)

Try drinking Ruinite Lambrusco at work. Everything's nice with Riunite on ice.

― Jenny, Monday, 12 March 2007 23:04 (eighteen years ago)

It's very quaffable.

― Jenny, Monday, 12 March 2007 23:05 (eighteen years ago)

OMG I forgot to mention this, but I was listening to WXRT the other day, and the DJ (I don't remember who it was, maybe Marty Lennartz?) mentioned Malort. He was talking about the Green Mill, and he said something like, "And best of all, they serve Malort."

― jaymc, Monday, 12 March 2007 23:55 (eighteen years ago)

If anyone's starting a new Blogger thing use the "fake" Gm@il address and pwd I mentioned above. I still hate stupid Blogger too much to do it right now.

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 00:18 (eighteen years ago)

Well, shoes I can deal with, but not girly shoes.

Would you prefer unisex vegan shoes?

― kenan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 00:32 (eighteen years ago)

Riunite and Malort: worst cocktail or hell's own party punch?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 00:47 (eighteen years ago)

both?

― kenan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 00:49 (eighteen years ago)

I'll bet that would be a fascinating layered drink. And then add some 151 and set it on fire. And then use it to self-immolate.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 00:52 (eighteen years ago)

You may be Hell's Own Bartender.

― kenan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 00:57 (eighteen years ago)

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 01:32 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jenny/416654684/

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 01:34 (eighteen years ago)

I have everything.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/127/416654684_0650f02914.jpg

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 01:35 (eighteen years ago)

Riunite and Malort: worst cocktail or hell's own party punch?

John Justen and Fluffy Bear Will Drink It

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 01:57 (eighteen years ago)

I thought of that, but then thought I shouldn't post that because it's not really a drink but then I look and I see that they are drinking things involving salad dressing. Now I think that Malort and Riunite might be too tame.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 03:39 (eighteen years ago)

More importantly, they can't get Malort. :)

― kenan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 04:49 (eighteen years ago)

I sent Jesse a text message on the subject this morning, but I will tell you all, too: I cannot get that fucking Riunite jingle out of my head and as a result, I am actually comtemplating getting a jug of Lambrusco and icing that fucker up so that I may enjoy its "forthright fruitiness, tingle and quaffability."

I am affecting everyone with this--tonight at work I managed to infect at least 2 other people's ears with this truly affecting jingle. Some folks showed resistance, but everyone over 30 cracked eventually. Then they hated me.

Also, I shared the joy of the "Kleenex says bless you" jingle.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 04:58 (eighteen years ago)

LOL--- The Southside Chicago Board of Tourism Fight Song!!

I have to listen to these again, but I'm pretty sure I really love them.

"Hair of Kramer" is kind of reminiscent of Idaho.

The fuzziness is great. This reminds me of being 20 in the 90s and really being hungry for music.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 05:40 (eighteen years ago)

I wish "Loveline" still had Adam and Drew, so that they would use "Hair of Kramer" as intro music after a commercial break.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 06:17 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, listen to the first 30 seconds of Kramer and tell me you can't hear Adam going "Iiiiiit's Loveline" after the Dantini drums kick in.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 06:25 (eighteen years ago)

Shit. Hold on. I'm listening to all of Teenager of the Year right now. (Except a couple really embarrassingly arwful songs--like the one that says "jim-jams".)

OK--I suppose that could work for Loveline. Though I don't know what Dantini drums are. And I hear that squeak. It's kind of great.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 06:43 (eighteen years ago)

Dan Mart1ni.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 06:45 (eighteen years ago)

I stopped the track I was listening to on iTunes and I want to know why they can't make it do that very simple, quick fade-out that Winamp does. It's makes all the difference in the world.

My roommates in New Orleans would not stop a song on iTunes without manually doing this for themselves by turning down the volume and then pausing the track. Seriously, the sudden STOP is harsh and unnecessary--very un-Mac-like!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 06:46 (eighteen years ago)

Riunite.comRiunite.com

The title of the page -- Riunite on ice ...that's nice! (punctuation verbatim).

The restaurant locator says that the only restaurant within 250 miles of 60640 that I could enjoy Riunite's nectars is at the Olive Garden at McCormick and Touhy in Lincolnwood. Rare!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 06:58 (eighteen years ago)

OK, I'm going to bed after this, but this needs to be repeated

Riunite Lancellotta
Perfumed, zesty and instantly likable, it's a lotta great taste! Though little is known about its origin, the Lancellotta grape has long been used to provide richness and backbone to other varietal wines such as Lambrusco.

Riunite Blush Bianco
Soft and pink like perfect lips, Blush Bianco is made of four different grapes

Riunite Rosato
Not too red. Not too white.

Riunite White Lambrusco
If you like White Zinfandel, you'll love this refreshing alternative.

And I'm not even making fun here, but this is precious!:

"Peach Chardonnay
Ri-freshingly Real wine… with just a touch of sunshine."

I remember when I was a teenager and I would read about wine having notes of blackberry, white peach, strawberry, chocolate, etc. and--having never tasted wine--I imagined this sort of thing: flavored wines.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 07:13 (eighteen years ago)

It's like the Wine Spectator version of The Heckler.

now i'm really done. done blogging....

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 07:16 (eighteen years ago)

Good morning! I walked to work today. :-D

― KitCat, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:12 (eighteen years ago)

Nice! Prof. Hummingbird cancelled our class again (she's a sickly lass) so I am going to have a nice walk to the train after work today.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

Then I'm going to go home and try to figure out how to compare and contrast a liberal feminism analysis of two hypothetical laws with a dominance feminism analysis of the same two laws, a prediction of the constitutionality of the two laws under the US Supreme Court's contemporary sex discrimination equal protection clause jurisprudence, my own opinion of the two hypothetical laws, and suggested changes or additions to the two laws to make them comport with whichever flavor of feminism I think would better serve the laws' stated objectives in five pages.

FIVE PAGES!!! Double spaced! WTF!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

Mmmm, flavor of feminism.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:36 (eighteen years ago)

I like Radical Raspberry, myself, but Marxist Mango is pretty good, too.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

Unflavored for me!

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

I like whichever one is "Soft and pink like perfect lips."

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:45 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

A poem

Which flavor of feminism
Is soft and pink
Like perfect lips?

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:53 (eighteen years ago)

Your four different grapes
send the blood blushing to my
faccia bianco.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

Though little is known about its origin
Has long been used to provide richness
And backbone

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

forthright fruitiness
tingle and quaffability
quaff quaff quaffability

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

Boy today I was very glad that I drive out of this city instead of into it. According to the radio this morning, the back-up into the city on the Kennedy due to the Dan Ryan mess started in Schaumburg. Insane.

But I'm happy because the next Neil Young archival live album comes out today.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

Can you restate that in the form of cheap wine-inspired free verse?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

Neil Young at Massey Hall
Intensely quaffable horse gone crazy
For those stuck on the human highway

That work?

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

290 was a mess inbound too which is odd, ususally the outbound is snarled at western but today it was the inbound lanes. they were stop and go from probably the cirlce interchange all the way back west of harlem.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

Perfectamundo!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

That was an xpost, obv.

So yesterday I hopped on a 146 (I am practicing train avoidance for the impending Clark Junction horror show), a newish one, even, and that bus stalled out at Belmont and inner LSD and we all had to pile on one that pulled up behind us (thus cramming two standing-room-only double-length bus' worth of passengers into one really crowded bus). Today, I hopped on a 135 and the back door was broken and we had to pull over twice on LSD so he could turn off the bus and restart it because there was some crazy shit happening with a buzzer and the back door whenever he went above 40 mph. So the drive told me later. This is the second bus in a week with which he's had the same problem.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

So all at the same time we're going to have Dan Ryan construction mess and Clark Junction rush hour train horror and buses that are too old and banged up to handle the increase in ridership.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

Let's all skip out of work and go drink beers outside in a park.

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

DON'T TEMPT ME.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

will power will power paper to write paper to write

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

Let's all skip out of work and go drink beers outside in a park.

make mine lemonade or iced tea and i'm there.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

1) Daylight savings time is beating my ass. I thought I went to bed at 11:00 last night, it was midnight, then my drugged-up kitten unplugged my alarm and I didn't wake up until 9:00. My body clock was TIGHT before, I would always get up at 8:00 on the dot, now it's all ruined.

2) I love, love, love the analog distortion on the FUNZONE! drums. Nick, what's your setup again? And can I record some drum tracks in your practice space?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

This is my cat eating chips.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/420031722_6e03c19f3e.jpg?v=0

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha uh ... The setup for the drums was three mics in the standard triangle format (one in kick, one on snare, one on floor tom), run through our PA as a mixer, into the Tascam analog 8-track. I'm not sure if the distortion came from the PA or from just hitting the tape too hard.

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

Either way, it sounds cool. I'm sick of digital distortion (I mean distorting my tracks using VSTs, not the really bad kind from the levels being too hot).

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

LOL @ cat

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

I don't necessarily think analog is better than digital in an overall sense, but I think it's a lot more forgiving if you don't know what you're doing.

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

OK yeah that's boring.

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

Don't get me wrong, I love working in digital, but if you're going for that fuzzy drum sound then you have to jump through more hoops to do it (and it still never sounds as good as the natural way). At least for me.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

So speaking of drinking, I can't drink today. But I have tenative afternoon beer plans with Lushy Leslie and another school friend tomorrow that I could easily parlay into a happy hour. TT is out again for me this week because it's the women's bar association's annual mentor's reception, which could be worse since it at least invovles free wine with attorneys that I get to invite, but I'd still probably rather be at Old Timer's.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

I mentioned to Dan the other night that I'd be interested in doing trivia tonight, but I'm kind of on the fence about it now.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

i think i'm probably out of TT's for good.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of ThHERsday (for the ladies)... My alma mater's hockey team is in the for-real playoffs for the first time in 8 years, and are playing Wisconsin on Thursday night. I was sort of thinking about tracking down a bar with F0x Sports North and trying to watch it. Anyone (Kevin) interested?

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

xpost damn it!

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

dan, for college hockey, yes, i'd be up for it. i'll commit 80% today, there's a one in 5 chance something will happen between now and then that will make it impossible for me to go. is this CCHA tourney action?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of ThHERsday (for the ladies)...

LOL

― KitCat, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

lol @ "Fox Sports North"

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

is this CCHA tourney action?

Nope, WCHA from the 3xcel Energy Center in the Twin Cities. I'll have to check, but I remembered after posting that we get a bunch of weird sports channels because of my roomie's soccer obsession so we might even get it at home.

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

considering there are (basically) only 4 hockey conferences it's amazing that i can't keep them straight. except the east coast teams, i know the difference between hockey east and ECAC.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

Well, every other Michigan college team besides MTU is in the CCHA, so it's not that surprising.

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin, why have thou foresaken TT?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

Is it sort of like "I'm never drinking again"?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

i entered into an agreement to meet for drinks on wednesday's at a place in the ukrainian village so the 5 minute walk to the bar wins out.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

i think i'm also done with my thursday night trips to uptown ;_;

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

We should disguise ourselves as mentor-lady lawyers and make Jenny's event this weeks TTs.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

That would possibly be the utter highlight of my law school career.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.classic-tv.com/shows/images/bb4.gif

― Eazy, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

as much as it pains me to say it eazy, i don't think any of us thursday night regulars would have a problem passing as a member of the transgendered community.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

wait, does jeff still have a beard?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

no "yes, he and jenny are still 'married'" jokes please.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

He's married to her! yuk yuk

― Eazy, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

oops - XPOST

― Eazy, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

HAHAHA

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

Jeff is sporting a cute not-quite-goatee facial hair configuration. I was wary at first (I'm just a big fan of the beard) but now I really like it.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

if i could grow a beard like jeff's i would in a second. i shaved today and did not do a very good job. i decided at the last minute to shave my whole face and wound up missing a lot.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

Tis no longer the season for beards, my brothers.

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

i went out for a pack of smokes at around 6 last night and wound up just walking around the neighborhood because it was so awesome outside. it seemed like all of the ukie village was out of doors last night. and oh yeah! i remembered one of my favorite parts of this neighborhood; scores of attractive women out jogging. that can only mean one thing: the girls on bikes will be back any week now. *sigh*

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

Girls on bikes = not boring.

I'm going to go take a walk outside WITH NO COAT ON.

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

girls on bikes = best part of the bucktown/wicker park/uk village.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

Bikes + Sundresses

― Eazy, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

= heaven. i think that's the end of that equation.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, the first warm day on a college campus. Such a sight to behold.

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

The three-day forecast is pretty hilarious:

Tue
http://www.google.com/images/weather/mostly_sunny.gif
72° | 50°

Wed
http://www.google.com/images/weather/chance_of_storm.gif
56° | 33°

Thu
http://www.google.com/images/weather/chance_of_snow.gif
38° | 30°

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

BLOOPER

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

Well, the reports I saw were calling the last few days to be cooler than they actually were, so here's hoping they're wrong yet again.

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

Why are we so boring these days?

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

A related question: WHERE IS JESSE?

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

WHERE IS SARAH?

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

Well, as long as I'm the only one in here, I'm going to get naked.

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

Yep ... streeeeeeetchin' out.

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

OK.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

nog it up!

― river wolf, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

PEEPING TOM!

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to have my own office in a few days. Naked time = all the time.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

HOW ... DARE ... YOU!

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

I got made fun of the last time I said "I love Joni Mitchell" on this thread, but goddammit. I just read the 33 1/3 book on Court and Spark (which at first annoyed me because of its close-reading approach but has given me a newfound appreciation for her lyrics) and am currently listening to The Hissing of Summer Lawns and can't wait until that tribute album comes out next month.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

Who was making fun of you? Joni Mitchell's alright with me.

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

I think Kenan said I was gay or something.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

She is a good lyricist.

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

Wait ... KENAN said you were gay?

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

That's like the pot calling the kettle gay.

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

You and Ev4n and your gay Steely Dan and Joni Mitchell listening.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

Ron Burgundy: Go easy on her, guys, she has feelings too, you know.
Brian Fantana: Listen to Burgundy, he sounds like some school-boy bitch.
Champ Kind: You sound like a gay.

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

It's so gay.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

(j/k)

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

Mostly it's just exciting to "discover" an artist within the last couple of years (I'd known Blue since '99 but hadn't heard much else) and have them suddenly turn into one of my favorites of all time.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

I am here, just super busy all o' sudden.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

Ron Burgundy: Everyone just relax, all right? Believe me, if there's one thing Ron Burgundy knows, it's women.
Brian Fantana: I don't know, Ron.
Ron Burgundy: Guess what, I do. I know that one day Veronica and I are gonna to get married on top of a mountain, and there's going to be flutes playing and trombones and flowers and garlands of fresh herbs. And we will dance till the sun rises. And then our children will form a family band. And we will tour the countryside and you won't be invited.

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

GUYS IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL OUTSIDE. AND I WENT TO HOT DOUG'S FOR LUNCH.

STILL SO HAPPY YOU GUYS

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

HS I AM JAELOUS OF YOUR HOT DOUGS

What'd you have?

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

What did you have at Hot Doug's?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

encased meat xpost

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

haha the sausage hivemind IN FULL EFFEX

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

You and Ev4n and your gay Steely Dan and Joni Mitchell listening.

I think Evan and I must have simpatico musical tastes. As awesome as Joni's lyrics are, it's really all the weird jazz chords that draw me in.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

Ron Burgundy: It's so damn hot... milk was a bad choice.

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

the "game of the week" was an "ale + chipotle buffalo sausage". I had that. frankly I'm not sure what that is, but it was delicious. the mustard on it was heavenly. I might start a thread in praise of mustard.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

Btw, speaking of asshole bandleaders (meaning Nick), Ev4n and the bass player got kicked out their country band via e-mail the other day. Ridiculous.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

Brian Fantana: I think I was in love once.
Ron Burgundy: Really? What was her name?
Brian Fantana: I don't remember.
Ron Burgundy: That's not a good start, but keep going...
Brian Fantana: She was Brazilian, or Chinese, or something weird. I met her in the bathroom of a K-Mart and we made out for hours. Then we parted ways, never to see each other again.
Ron Burgundy: I'm pretty sure that's not love.
Brian Fantana: Damn it.

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

Nick, "milk was a bad choice" is my favorite line of that movie.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, I'll never have to watch that movie at this rate! Not that I would have anyway.

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

Brian Fantana: People call me the Bry man; I'm the stylish one of the group. I know what you're asking yourself and the answer is yes. I have a nick name for my penis. Its called the Octagon, but I also nick named my testes - my left one is James Westfall and my right one is Doctor Kenneth Noisewater. You ladies play your cards right you just might get to meet the whole gang.

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think anyone's going to complain over Ron Burgundy spoilerz.

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

1) Yeah jaymc, I think your tastes are very similar in some ways (harmonically maybe?)

2) That sausage sounds amazing.

3) I was just thinking about how much I love mustard and how I need to make a trip to the mustard museum to get some really good stuff.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

The best part of the movie is the conversation he has with his dog, but that doesn't really translate to just text.

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

AND I WENT TO HOT DOUG'S FOR LUNCH.

>:(

― river wolf, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

IS RIVER WOLF GBX???

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

QUICK SARAH POST THE PIC OF ME IN FRONT OF THE MUSTARD MUSEUM!

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

QUICK!

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/22/24975260_4c3ee2b04b.jpg?v=1121034104

I was fatter then.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

i was too warm in my jacket and hoodie! TOO WARM!!!!! do you know how long it's been since i could say that?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

naamme doesn't have any photos matching mustard. Would you like to try a search for photos about food, ketchup, hotdog, cheese or yellow instead?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, I can't believe you've all been to the Mt. Horeb mustard museum. And didn't even call me.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

I think the photo of me there is gone, at least from Flickr. ;_;

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/19/22575894_a29ab336be.jpg?v=0

― Jeff, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

Yay! Where was it?

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

Also note: the sign for the "Trollway"

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

Google says Mt. Horeb is only 22 minutes away from me, I really have to go some weekend.

Where is a serious girl who aims mustard???!

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

You should go to that Norwegian village that's over there too, that was actually kind of neat.

― n/a, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

Those road trip pix aren't on my flickr any more. Cry!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

What happened to them?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

I don't have a pro account, so they disappeared into the ethers. I have them on a disc at home somewhere though.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

yes

― river wolf, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

From the message popping up on my flickr I thought that new pictures wouldn't show up, but they would still be stored on the server. Oh well (I signed up for pro today anyway).

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

Why couldn't today's weather have happened on Saturday? I'd so be grilling foodz right now...

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

hi, gbx! maybe hot doug's could set up an interstate delivery service?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

believe me i've tried

― river wolf, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

I had Hannah's Bretzel for lunch w/ Jeff-o and we sat by the fountain in the courtyard of the Chase building and it was possibly the happiest 45 minutes or so of my last month. I'm home now and I opened a window (the only window with a faulty storm window, see) and all three cats are vying for space in it.

Jesse is working his little stubby fingers to the bone in flagrant disregard of Illinois' One Day of Rest in Seven Act.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

River Wolf sounds like a Grateful Dead song.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

whereas "River Wolves" sounds like a minor league hockey team. The Peoria River Wolves or something.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

The Muskegon Lumberjacks!

― Laurel, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

Minor league hockey's got nothing on minor league baseball for team name hilarity. See: Asheville Tourists, Savannah Sand Gnats, Delmarva Shorebirds.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

peoria is actually the rivermen, now that i think about it. it used to be affiliated with the st. louis blues.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

Kannapolis Intimidators

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

I love MiLB.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

MiLB
portland seadogs
lowell spinners

MiHL
maine lobstermen
lowell loch monsters

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

Still one of the best minor-league baseball team names:

[images]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/96/LansingLugnuts.png/150px-LansingLugnuts.png[/image]

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

JOEK RUINED BY POOR HTML

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/96/LansingLugnuts.png/150px-LansingLugnuts.png

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

Toledo Mud Hens

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/37/Mudhens.gif/150px-Mudhens.gif

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.erieairport.org/seawolves_logo.gif

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

OMG.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bpv/images/5/5f/MontgomeryBiscuits.jpg

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

All the AHL team names are kind of dull except for the Albany River Rats.

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

In Greensboro we lived blocks away from the old WWII Memorial Stadium where the GSO Bats (RIP) used to play. But now they built a new stadium for their new team, the dumb GSO Grasshoppers. But now we live even closer to WRIGLEY FUCKING FIELD so choke on that, City of Greensboro, NC.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

The Biscuits' owners selected the team's nickname from an entry in a "name the team" contest, due in part to the potential marketing and pun possibilities.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

MONTGOMERY BISCUITS!!!!!!!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/74/Diamondjaxx.png/150px-Diamondjaxx.png

Big market for maximalist electronic pop music in West Tennessee?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

greensboro used to be affiliated with the red sox when i was a youngster.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

They are aff'd with the Marlins now. Or were when we lived there.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

Just checked. Still are.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

ditoo.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

I found some other good ones, but they all pale in comparison to the Biscuits. That mascot is cracking me up.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

lol @ butter for a tongue

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

The only minor-league team I've ever seen was the Kane County Cougars. I'd like to go to a game this summer -- either them or the Schaumburg Flyers or the Gary SouthShore RailCats, I guess.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.biscuitsbaseball.com/

Season tickets start at $54. Have I mentioned that I love minor league base ball? Cheap seat Bats tickets were like $4 or something insane like that* and on $1 beer night, it was by far the cheapest bar in town. And closest to our house.

*$7 for good seats.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

(I think the Cougars are the only ones who are actually affiliated with a MLB team, though.)

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

JOHN I will go see some minor league ball with you. But not until August.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

OK.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

beer > hot dogs > baseball

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

I'd switch those last two.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

I'd be more apt to claim that beer + hot dogs + baseball >>>>>>>>>>> beer or hot dogs or baseball alone.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny OTM

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

I'll take beer + hot dogs + tv, beer + hot dogs + ballet, anything really.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

Except I'm prefectly happy with beer sans baseball. It's kinda dull IMHO.

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

beer + hotdogs + the D.M.V.
beer + hotdogs + traffic court
beer + hotdogs + the dentist

Hey, you're right!

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe not the dentist.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

Except I'm prefectly happy with beer sans baseball. It's kinda dull IMHO.

Normally I'd agree but I think the weather has me all a-twitter. While I don't care for baseball on TV, I adore baseball as a live, outdoor sporting event.* And while some people might get the urge to go hiking or camping or something when the weather warms up, I get a hankerin' to sit outside and get drunk.

*Well, not big time corporate ball park MLBaseball so much as minor league. Or the Cubs. Because really what's the difference there?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

NB: If they ever shut down Wrigley Field and build a shiny fancy stupid expensive annoying steep ugly new stadium for the Cubs, I am through with MLB forevs.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

guys i am seriously about to fucking kill someone for a hot dog

― river wolf, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

not me, wrigley is a terrible, TERRIBLE place to see a game.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

i read that as "seriously about to fucking kill someone with a hot dog."

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

that too

― river wolf, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

Tell me why.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

Terrible, what? I'm assuming you're just referring to the crowd, because you'd be 100% OTM. Otherwise, it's probably the best stadium in the Majors.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

no, i hate sitting under the upper decks. lousy sightlines. better than fenway but still aweful.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

The "tell me why" was to Kevin. I'm w/ Jon, except that I cut my live pro sports teeth in Philadelphia and so am unintimidated by the crowd at Wrigley. They do piss me off when I am trying to get home from work during a home game, however. Fuckers.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

i thought maybe you wanted to know why i wanted a hot dog

― river wolf, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

which, let's be honest, would have been a totally inane question

― river wolf, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

"'cause they're delicious, uhDUHHHHH"

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

because I'm ALIVE

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

because I LOVE HOT DOGS

― river wolf, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

Hot dogs are pretty great. It's true.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

personally:

brat > polish > standard hot dog

― dan m, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

Hot dogs are great. This is hot dog weather. In many ways, this is hot dog weather.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

I drank beer and had a picnic with (two of) my coworkers today after class. It ruled. No one ate a hot dog, though.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

Lucky!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)

Best's Kosher 1/4 lb dogs > life itself

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)

i am saying fuck it and i am going somewhere to sit on a patio and drink beer and eat food, even if i have to go by myself because i'm lame and don't have friends

― river wolf, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:12 (eighteen years ago)

I WILL DO THE SAME

― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:13 (eighteen years ago)

wherever hot dogs are being eaten, I am with you in spirit!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

I want to sit outside somewhere, and I called my friend, Courtney, but she wants to go to a fucking MOVIE!!

What I dream of for tonight-- Going to Glenn's and finding that they have sidewalk tables (though I usually hate outdoor dining), then getting their all-you-can-eat King Crab Legs with coollddd bottle Riunite.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:25 (eighteen years ago)

beers across america!

― river wolf, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:25 (eighteen years ago)

Beeeeeeeers across America!
Beeeeeeeeers across this land I love!
Divided we drink!
United we drink!
Beeeeeeeers across America!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:30 (eighteen years ago)

We are the river of beer
that runs through the valley of fear.
And when the lady who brings beer
shines upon us saying
"All are welcome here!"

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:31 (eighteen years ago)

I have been working a lot, it's true. By the end of this week (my work week ends on Sunday) I will have worked 10 days in a row, and before that another 6. So 1 day off in 17 for me, not 7. If they caught the managers caught on, I would be made to stop.

V. tired, already.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:32 (eighteen years ago)

OH, the poems earlier today were awesome. We're really getting a lot of mileage out of Riunite!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:33 (eighteen years ago)

I want to go to Pier 5736.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:33 (eighteen years ago)

Are you in the mood for a 5 lb. Maine lobster or Yellow Fin Tuna?

Does a fish shit in the water?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:35 (eighteen years ago)

Pier 5736 looks like the kind of place where you can get a bucket of assorted seafoods served with corn bread and your own personal saucepan of melted butter.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:37 (eighteen years ago)

But they are comparing themselves with Trotters and Tru. I'm curious.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:38 (eighteen years ago)

No Riunite, though, which is too bad because scallops go nice with Riunite. Riunite!!!!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:39 (eighteen years ago)

Reviews on the Reader site are effusive.

They compare themselves to Trotter's and Tru because they get an RRR rating in the Reader.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:42 (eighteen years ago)

You mean "Riunite, Rinuiteeeeee"

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:42 (eighteen years ago)

I think I missed the earlier conversation. All I know is that Riunite is a kind of wine, what's so funny about it?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

According to our server, there is no freezer on site

Apple pie a la mode is served at room temperature.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGw_ekbxj5M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71SYeOsb3yA

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:45 (eighteen years ago)

I think I missed the earlier conversation. All I know is that Riunite is a kind of wine, what's so funny about it?

There's a lot of context to it. Read the quotes from their website upthread, and you'll see one thing that's hilarious. Also, the commercials on Youtube.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

me: we're getting a bottle of that shit when i get back from Tulsa.
and we are going to get FUCKED UP on sulfites.
FUCKED.
UP.
Jesse: you aren't serious, are you?
it's not even good in the way that PBR can be good
it's VILE.
like that shit courtney and i tried to drink at dan's b-day.*
but what do i know. i'm eating green olive tapenade on nacho cheese Doritos

*Small bottles of wine on sale at Jewel 10/$10.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

We were both trying to catch a buzz, and we threw most of it away.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:49 (eighteen years ago)

me: the last time you had riunite - did you have it on ice?
Jesse: no
me: because i have a suspicion that the ice is key
something tells me.
Jesse: i don't honestly remember if i had it!
me: i don't know why.
Jesse: really, i could drink white zin on ice the same way i would drink Zima
me: but riunite and ice...
that seems kind of nice.
Jesse: you're fucked up for good

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 22:50 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse's IM hilarity kills thread.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

Or maybe you're all out having beers outside. Except me, because I'm a horrible slacker and am still trying to cram a half-semester's worth of feminist legal theory into five double-spaced pages.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 23:23 (eighteen years ago)

No, I'm editing a 65-page document with one-line biographies of several thousand famous people.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 23:25 (eighteen years ago)

You're still at work? Are you working late, or do you always work this late?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 23:25 (eighteen years ago)

I always work until at least 6 and sometimes as late as 7.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 23:28 (eighteen years ago)

A lot of times it depends on when I get here in the morning. (I'm never here before 9:30.) Right now, though, I just want to finish the B's.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

I would like to work 10-6.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 23:31 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, it's not a bad life.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, adios, pilgrims!

― jaymc, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 23:38 (eighteen years ago)

I bought a camera today, and will be updating my flickr account muchly in the near future. It's a new account, so if you used to be my flickr contact, you are not anymore.

http://flickr.com/photos/fluxion

The camera looks like this.

http://www.digitalcameratracker.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/canon-s3-is-large.jpg

So excited, you guys.

― kenan, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 23:55 (eighteen years ago)

hooray!! I love pictures! GET OUTSIDE NOW. or inside. I don't care. Just take pictures.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 00:03 (eighteen years ago)

You guys, I went running outside today, IN SHORTS.

No hot dogs in the sun, but I'm hoping to meet bros for wings in the balmy evening air.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 00:11 (eighteen years ago)

Remember the other day when Nick said the hipsters in Wicker Park had come out of hibernation?

I think they've been breeding over the winter.

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 00:21 (eighteen years ago)

GET OUTSIDE NOW. or inside. I don't care. Just take pictures.

You've already seen plenty of the kinds of pictures I take inside. ;)

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 00:47 (eighteen years ago)

Ok, the long-exposure picture of the train blurring by is getting real old.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 00:54 (eighteen years ago)

ok i didn't have hot dogs but i did have beer and chili and a pretty waitress

― river wolf, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 00:58 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, and I got a tripod, so I can take night shots without putting my camera down on the ground. Not that that yielded totally embarrassing results, but this will be better. Also 12x zoom for getting pictures of people without them realizing what you're taking a picture of. This is really the nicest camera I've ever had, and I was surprised at how cheap these things are getting. Four or five years ago, this would have cost over $1000, easy. I paid nowhere near that.

I have already snapped over a hundred pictures today.

:) :0 :)

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 01:02 (eighteen years ago)

Have I mentioned how weird buying a memory card for a camera online is? We were looking through one gig cards at work the other week, and the prices range from -- I shit you not -- almost $100 to $12.99. What they don't tell you is that these cards have different write and download rates, but still... how bad could a $12.99 gig really be? And would a $100 gig be so much faster as to offset the expense?

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 01:27 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, and I got a tripod,... Also 12x zoom for getting pictures of people without them realizing what you're taking a picture of.

NOT CREEPY AT ALL!

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 02:07 (eighteen years ago)

NOT CREEPY AT ALL!

omg stfu right exactly now. That is NOT what I use that for. More along the lines of this:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/165/420485175_661333b84e_o.jpg

or this

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/171/420485103_a6ffc4cb57_o.jpg

and I may be creepy otherwise but NO.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 04:55 (eighteen years ago)

this is my favorite pic i've taken in a while:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/146/420749391_fe0315b8a1_o.jpg

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 05:11 (eighteen years ago)

also, go to hell kevin, for assuming that "zoom lens" + "kenan" = "creepy"

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 05:19 (eighteen years ago)

Pier 69.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 05:44 (eighteen years ago)

I want a zoom lens for creepy purposes.

You know what's fun/ny? Watching YouTube videos of drunken animals! It's all animals that have eaten fermented fruit-- squirrel ate pumpkins, elephants, monkeys, ostrich all ate fermented fruit, and monkeys at some Carribean resort that are known for stealing cocktails from the beach bars. Maybe some links in the morning.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 06:17 (eighteen years ago)

This made me laugh. But I'm pretty sure that's because I'm a bad person. SFW

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 06:30 (eighteen years ago)

Jesus, the comments section underneath those viral videos makes me weep for the future.

But thx for the early morning laff.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 12:13 (eighteen years ago)

that is an extremely tolerant cat

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

Man Tells Cops Unicorn Caused Crash

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

See, I think that a stranger who takes my photo as I walk down the street with no idea that someone is taking my photo IS creepy. It doesn't have to be an upskirt to feel uncomfortable. This is probably more difficult for men to understand since they don't face the same dangers that women face (street harassment, groping, assault, stalking, rape) every day. What might seem like an innocent exercise in photography to a man with a camera might easily feel like a violation to a woman.

And before you get in a twist, Kenan, I'm not saying that you're creepy or have nefarious motives for taking pictures. I am saying that equating ANYONE with a zoom lens with creepiness is far from being out of left field, and that maybe you should think about this when deciding who to take photos of.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 12:57 (eighteen years ago)

OMG unicorn was driving!

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 12:58 (eighteen years ago)

JENNY OTM. Without feeling like I'm being egomaniacal, I think it is creepy that someone could not only be taking pictures of me with a zoom lens from their window, but posting them on the internet without my consent or knowledge. I would feel extremely violated.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:02 (eighteen years ago)

I should probably have said "straight men" or at least "straight looking men" instead of just men. Sorry.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:02 (eighteen years ago)

also, go to hell kevin, for assuming that "zoom lens" + "kenan" = "creepy"

uh kenan? i would find ANYONE who posted "Also 12x zoom for getting pictures of people without them realizing what you're taking a picture of" creepy. and from the looks of things i'm not the only one who feels that way. i won't be holding my breath waiting for you to tell amanda or jenny to go to hell however.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)

likely not. fair enough. but there's nothing creepy about taking pictures of unsuspecting strangers. i wish i was more bold about it, and in time, i will be.

i'm sorry, kev. i don't actually want you to go to hell. that would be hot.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:17 (eighteen years ago)

but there's nothing creepy about taking pictures of unsuspecting strangers

No, Kenan. There IS. That was my whole point. There is A LOT creepy about taking pictures of unsuspecting strangers, and even MORE creepy about subsequently posting them on the internet.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

but there's nothing creepy about taking pictures of unsuspecting strangers.
DISAGREE.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

xpost!

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

what a controversial topic

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

I'm trying to avoid my usual all-caps posting mode

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

I have a problem with not being fast enough -- half of my pictures of people on the sidewalk and such have one dude looking straight into the camera going, "Who th fuck is that dude with a camera?" Which totally ruins the picture.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

what could be creepy? they're people, in public places, doing people things. sometimes that looks kinda cool, if i can get a good angle on it.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

Oh forget it Kenan. If you can't see where that might be a little disturbing to women, then just go on out and take your little photos.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

sorry dude. if i found a picture of myself on the internet that i didn't know was there, i would be creeped out and would want to kick the genitals of the person who took/posted the photo. maybe i'm fussy.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

I understand why people might think this is creepy, but like it or not, it's been part of the art of photography for about as long as photography has existed (though not the posting it on the Internet part).

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

that's the part i object to the most. the rest i cannot control.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

whether i like it or not.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

Also can we get away from the whole "disturbing to women" aspect of this? It's a red herring, men are just as allowed to be creeped out by this as women.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

Think if you were white collar laptop boy up there. Wouldn't you be a little weirded out to find out that pictures you never knew were taken were floating around on some forum you'd never even heard of?

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

True, for both tradition (and occasionally attractive results) and lack of control. I still don't like it, and while I can't stop it, I'm still going to say that I think it's a creepy thing to do.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

i am going to get away from this entirely by going to work. tootles.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

jenny, what threat am i posing?

and nick otm. take this far enough, and we get into how journalists are just leeches and such. taking pictures is not creepy. the way i do it, it may not be useful, either, but it's still not stalking. these people are in public places.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

white collar boy, btw, works 6 feet away from me every day

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

The first time we visited Chicago, I took a picture of our bartender in some irish bar. She caught me, but then she sort of posed.

I can't remember if I posted it on the internet or not.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

Also can we get away from the whole "disturbing to women" aspect of this? It's a red herring, men are just as allowed to be creeped out by this as women.

Well, no. We can't. Of course men are welcome to be as creeped out by anything as they wish. But since men aren't quite so likely to be harassed or groped or stalked or assaulted as women are, the perceived threat that a woman feels when a strange man is photographing her on the street without her consent is going to be much greater than the perceived threat that a man feels.

The dynamic definitely changes when it's a woman taking the pictures, though.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

I had this exchange with my boss yesterday:

me: picks up camera.
her: "Oh don't take my picture, I look horrible. No!"
me: "Don't be one of those lame-o 'don't take my picture' people."

The picture came out blurry anyway, so she had nothing to worry about.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

Besides, what is a guy with a camera going to do? Steal your soul? Even if it's on the internet, whatever.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, yeah, I see what you are getting at wrt the artistic merit but the problem is, at least from the subject's perspective, they don't know what you're intent is. That's what can make it seem creepy. You know? I mean, the people that notice you taking their picture don't know what you are going to be doing with it.

For example, for my work I often have to go take pictures of buildings we are working on. I very frequently get asked to not take pictures by the employees because they aren't very comfortable with it (many times this is due to employees of questionable legal status). I guess I'm just trying to say that there are many reasons you/any photographer might not even be aware of that makes the subject uncomfortable if they were to become aware of what was going on.

Plus, even though your pics are usually pretty awesome, 97% of amateur photos completely suck.

Anyway, I'll shut up about this one now.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

He kind of looks like a secret agent in a movie. That said, I think it's weirder that you're posting a coworker's photo than a group of strangers. But you do what you want. I'm not in an argumentative mood this morning. I'm not even in a mood to debate anything this morning. I am, however, in a discursive mood.

I walked to work again today! It seemed even warmer than yesterday, or at least I got sweaty this time. TMI.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

I'm am really amazed at your and Nick totally unwillingness to even entertain the fact that a woman (YES A WOMAN) might be threatened or at least made uneasy by this! Your motives as a photographer are artistic, I know, but do a web search for "upskirt" or similar and you find pages on pages of pictures of really violative photographs taken without knowledge or consent of their subjects. Of course that's not what you're doing, Kenan, but it gets done and so there is a perceived creepiness to your activity because there is a sense, to some women, that "strange man with a camera" = "creep with an agenda."

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

And xpost - Jon makes the same argument I'm making in the first sentence of his post.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

Summary: Kenan, take your photos. But don't act like it shouldn't even upset someone.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny, it's not that I'm not willing to entertain that aspect or think that it's not valid. I realize it may have sounded that way in my other post, but thinking about it more basically I was just trying to say that that's not the aspect of this issue that I'm interested in discussing. Obviously, you think that the sexual aspect is an important one, and that's fair enough. Personally, I'm more just interested in talking about the privacy issues in general.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

Ever, not even. But even kind of works. But not as well.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

But I'm happy enough to talk about something else. Or do the work I'm supposed to be doing.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

That said, I think it's weirder that you're posting a coworker's photo than a group of strangers.

ha I emailed him that after I posted it. "You're on flickr now, thought you should know."

Also I see what you're saying, Jenny, but I reject it, because it would led to an infinite regression in logic where I should never take another picture of a person again. That's just a fun-kill.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

Word, Nick. Bringing my personal experience to the discussion, I think the sexual aspect is super important because that's what would make me feel the most threatened. Honestly considering it, I dont think a strange woman on the street taking my picture would bother me much at all. I might ask her what she intends to do with it, but I wouldn't be scared of her or be wary of her intentions.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

kenan, no one is saying not to do it, i think the consensus is don't be surprised when other unsuspecting people find it creepy when you do it.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

No, Kevin, he rejects that so it's totally okay!

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

oh, and they do! when they find out.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:52 (eighteen years ago)

jenny -- gawd -- it IS ok. I'm not being creepy, at least not in spirit, and if other people think i'm being creepy, then that is what it is. I'm not about to get arrested for using a super zoom lens.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

Kenan, I'm not going to absolve you or give you permission. You do what you want. I will be creeped out by what I want. The world moves inexorably on.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

So did anyone watch the series premiere of The Riches? I thought it was really good, if more serious than I expected it to be. I've always liked Eddie Izzard's stand-up, but I didn't think he could pull off such a nice balance between comdedic and dramatic at the same time. Plus Minnie Drive in cornrows is still giving me roffles.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

Huh. Eddie Izzard is not who I thought he was. That was kind of disorienting.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

Wait... is Jenny imagining that I am taking a series of train platform portraits that consist only of pretty girls that I like to perv on? This is entirely not the case. People are hard to get on film, or on whatever it is a digital camera affords you, but a big zoom allows you more distance. It's not creepy, it's not unfair, and it's not a moral issue AT ALL. Relax, ppl. Maybe one day you'll end up in my flickr account and maybe you won't, but either way you won't be naked. You'll be lighting a cigarette, like Obama. Or doing some other thing of interest. And no, you won't know your picture is being taken. Tuff nails.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

Kenan, read the thread. I make it pretty clear that I understand your intentions are harmless. My only goal was to get you to recognize the possibility that someone might perceive your taking her photo as creepy. I failed and now I give up. If you want to keep talking about it, email me.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

"her photo"

I have a class, gotta go. Of course I luv you, Jenny.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

I also made it pretty clear it was, IMO, a gendered issue. Christ.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

[link Relevant to this conversation]http://news.aol.com/elections/president/story/_a/barack-obama-sues-pedophile-over-photos/20070307164109990001[/image]

I vote that creepy in this case.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

Just to clarify what seems like a delicate point, when you enter a public space you assume that others who are there may see you, and so you'll appear/behave accordingly...and those who are there are people who you ALSO COULD SEE, so the basic vulnerability to observation is shared and equal. When you take photographs in a public place and distribute them, you're opening up the subjects to the gazes of a lot of people they never had a chance to similarly observe...so it's a simple power imbalance, even side from any gendered considerations (and you already know how I feel about that).

― Laurel, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

ILX: CHICAGO: CREPEY?!

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.filtsai.com/cooking/crepes/stack_crepes.jpg

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

I hope you got permission from those pancakes to post their photo on the internet.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.saunalahti.fi/~marian1/gourmet/pic/crepe1.jpg

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d111/superleslie5/crepes003.jpg

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

I was innocently doing a google image search for pannekoeken and came across http://www.3gz.com/nb3/uploads/achjee.jpg (semi-NSFW).

Good to see that the Pannekoeken Huis, a chain of Dutch breakfast places in Minnesota, is still up and running.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

Dammit, I didn't mean to post that - I meant to link to it - sorry everyone!!

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

I thought linking wouldn't be crepey but posting would!

Anyway, I have a feeling Jesse will enjoy that.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

I probably shouldn't say anything to sustain this morning argument but:

--Anyone can feel creped out by whatever h/she wants

--But I think it's worth making a distinction between respectful/artistic photos of strangers in a public area and obviously crepey photos of the type that Jenny mentions.

Like, I've ran into a lot of photos of myself online that I didn't know were taken because it was in the context of me playing a show. And I can't complain about it because I put myself out there in a public context, right? So a big part of the question is what you agree to by going out in public areas, which Nick touched on (and I'm not sure if being photographed is part of that, but it's certainly debatable).

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, Laurel addressed that more than me.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

is anyone going to the parade this weekend? i've never been in all the time i've lived in chicago because st. patty's day seems like an even bigger amateur hour than new years. i think i should go and remain sober the whole time.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

Laura Mulvey to thread.

Btw, when I went to the Art Institute's student holiday art sale, there was a very enthusiastic young man who was presenting a series of photos he took of unsuspecting people on the street. In talking to him, I discovered he was very aware of the intrusive aspect of his photography and that one of the broader themes he wanted to explore was the increasing pervasiveness of surveillance, how we're all being "watched," to some degree or other, all the time.

I rifled through the stack of large prints on the table and was frankly fascinated by some of the close-ups: both from an aesthetic standpoint (a photo of a woman with hair in her face had a really great composition) and also from a voyeuristic one. I was reminded of the work of Duane Hanson and (early) Chuck Close, in that the viewer is implictly given permission to stare at human faces and bodies in a way that is socially unacceptable in real life. And then I stopped at a photo of a man in a pink shirt, taken from behind but with a quarter of the face still showing. "I work with that guy," I said. "That's R-- C-----." I asked the photographer where the photo was taken, and he said "Clark and Wacker," which is just a few blocks from my office, so I knew it had to be him. And now every other time I walk by my co-worker's cubicle (this isn't someone I'm well-acquainted with), I think, "Do you know that your neck is being enthusiastically discussed by some young Latino art student and is maybe, at this point, hanging from someone's wall?" It's kind of weird.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

(Also, weirdly, I've seen that Tweety-Boob photo before.)

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

i think i should go and remain sober the whole time.

Impossible!

As just communicated to Jesse via IM: a gendered analysis of the situation only works when 1) the photographer is male; 2) the subject is female; and 3) the subject knows she's being photographed. If none of those elements are present, it gets into the privacy issues articulated so well by Amanda, Laurel, and Nick. And then Jordan. And then we get into the artsy stuff that John talked about.

It's a pretty rich subject for discussion, I think.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

Good thing about working at a geeky place = pi/pie day party today

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

And while I'm not apologizing for bringing sex into the equation per se, I am sorry that the conversation ended up being exclusively about that aspect of it. I was trying to explain the potential for creepiness in the way that felt most obvious to me.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

More discussion! If I'm walking in a famous, much-touristed etc place like Rockefeller Plaza, I ASSUME I will end up in photographs! In fact my friend Brian and I used to place mock bets on the number of family photo albums we appeared in every time we visited certain stores there! But at the corner of Essex and Delancey while I'm waiting for the stoplight on my way to Monday Night Drinking, my expectations are very different.

Also, it occurs to me that those tourists are walking around with their cameras in full view, snapping merrily away at their friends and loved ones, not capturing us while remaining themselves unseen. For whatever that's worth.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

i think i should go and remain sober the whole time.

Impossible!

quite possible, i hate drinking around douchebags.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

I'm more and more convinced that it's really about secrecy and power. Make of that what you will.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

secrecy and power.

sounds like a blue oyster cult album.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/buddyicons/17383922@N00.jpg?1139889403

Makes sense, Laurel.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

My legs are really, really sore from running yesterday. I ran to the gym. Now you know.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

Right or wrong, I enjoy taking/viewing zoom-lens photos of unsuspecting strangers. I also like looking into other people's apartments (mostly for decorating ideas--my MOM likes to do this too!). But I can see understand how others might deem this all "creepy." I'm comfortable with that.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

And I would say that power is inexorably intertwined in our society with gender hierarchy, but I think that's getting a little abstract even for me at this point.

I do a fair amount of public speaking so there are tons of pictures of me out and about. I don't even know where most of them are or if they're any good. I'm actually not bothered, per se, by having my picture taken by strangers. I would definitely go through the "threatdown procedures" if I noticed a strange man taking my picture, though, even if I was able to dispose of him as a threat in about 1 second. (Oh, he's taking pictures of other people/things, too, he's got a lot of camera equipment around him, he's not hiding behind a bush, etc.)

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

if I noticed a strange man taking my picture, though, even if I was able to dispose of him as a threat in about 1 second. (Oh, he's taking pictures of other people/things, too, he's got a lot of camera equipment around him, he's not hiding behind a bush, etc.)

i would instinctively start burning incriminating documents. knee jerk reaction to that summer when i interned at the republican national committee.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

I get a little weirded out when there is someone say on the train platform, aiming a camera in my general direction.

People with cameras are automatically 10% creepier than those without.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

I get a little weirded out when there is someone say on the train platform, aiming a camera in my general direction.

People with cameras are automatically 10% creepier than those without.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

(FWIW) My friend Michele, whom some of you have met, is a freelance photographer. She's worked at a bunch of different papers, the biggest being the J0urnal S3ntiel from Milwaukee. She says that as a rule, photojournalists have to get permission from anyone who can be easily identified by a photograph before it can be run in print or online, and that editors will almost always reject the use of photos where said permission hasn't been obtained. Apparently this can be quite frustrating for photogs, as some of their "best" work is never seen.

I think it's kinda creepy too, but anymore it's hard for me to care much. It's not like the city, the CTA, grocery stores, the police, our employers, and the occasional random sicko are going to stop photographing us unknowingly wherever we go.

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

whoa.

How did that happen?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

test

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

test

now it won't let me do a duplicate.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

It's called a "double post".

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

and i only hit "submit" once, the previous time.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

"Reasonable expectation of privacy"

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

i've double posted before.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

You know, when I was in town w/Cam and Justin I wanted to take some photos on the subway platform but felt really hesitant. I think I was half worried about creping people out and half worried about looking like a tourist. Justin convinced me that it was cool, I could be a photography student for all anyone knows and that people are used to it.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

OMG me too!

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

The less privacy we have in our daily lives (store, CTA, police cameras), the less we can reasonably expect privacy and so the less privacy we get. And so goes our 4th amendment protections against unreasonable searches and seizures.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

WHAT CONSTITUTES "REASONABLE" IN THIS POST-9/11 WORLD ANYMORE?????

(plz not to answer that)

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

This is why whenever some jerk asks to see my recipt while exiting a business, I say no. Either show some motherfucking proof I stole something or let me go.

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

Like I could even begin to! Then I'd start talking about white male normativity and judicial standards of neutrality and then your eyes would glaze over like Jesse's did the other day when I tried to explain the difference between self-funded and state regulated insurance plans over lunch and then you would all stop even trying to be my friend instead of just putting on a brave face and waiting for me to get it all out of my system and then I'd be alone so alone and be reduced to taking photographs of strangers that I would then take home and talk to about feminist legal theory until the wee hours of the night. And also gin.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

Ha! I always refuse to give my zip code/phone number to cashiers. It's futile, but it makes me feel better.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

My legs are really, really sore from drinking yesterday.

It's this thing that happens now where if I don't hydrate well enough (at least I suspect that's the cause of it) I wake up with really sore legs.

Kr and I had a long conversation with a lonely drunk named Marty at K's Dugout last night, as well as some briefer exchanges with a trio of cigar-smoking Vietnam vets who used the Internet jukebox to play "God Bless the USA" by Lee Greenwood, "Riders on the Storm," some Harry Chapin song I didn't recognize (one of the dudes, named Duck, said "this one's for you guys"), and a live version of "Superfly" (which I helped them find on the jukebox, so they bought us drinks).

Marty was an interesting character. One of the first things he told us was that he was kind of bitter because he basically put his ex-wife through law school, but now, after four kids, they're divorced. But at the same time, he still loves her, and he even dreams about her. And even though she was the brains of the family (which she passed on to the kids, who are all avid chess players), he recently got certified to operate pretty much any construction equipment there is, which has led to several job offers overseas (and on the ocean) where he could make over $100K/year. He was a little uncertain, because he'd be away from his kids ("although I'm away from them now, too"), and also because it would mean he couldn't drink like he does now. We talked about music a little bit, too, and apparently he played bass in an REM cover band in the 80s that played all over Chicago. He seemed to like talking about that, because it allowed him to show off a little (there was a weird class dynamic that developed when he asked us if we were college graduates and we said yes -- even though neither of us is making as much money as he stands to make), so I kind of encouraged him. If we hadn't left at midnight, though, I'm sure he would've talked to us all night.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

I'd take the photographs home, not the strangers. Just in case anybody was unclear on my plan.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

Ha! I always refuse to give my zip code/phone number to cashiers. It's futile, but it makes me feel better.

jen used to refuse too whereas i would make ones up.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

Yep, I just make them up now, too. When I bought my new iPod I gave them my roomie's number!

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

My legs are really, really sore from drinking yesterday.

This sounds like a joke Jesse would make.

Conversations like that, John, are why I talk to strangers in bars. I just tend to get stinky drunk racist union guys more than thoughtful construction workers who played in REM cover bands.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

I assume they ask for your zip code at the grocery store for demographic studies, which I am all too happy to participate in. If it means someone in an office somewhere can create a map that shows where all the shoppers come from, and if they can use this data to better serve their customers, then I'm all for it.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

Conversations like that, John, are why I talk to strangers in bars. I just tend to get stinky drunk racist union guys more than thoughtful construction workers who played in REM cover bands.

Yeah. Well, he was drunk and union, too (Teamsters), and it's possible he was racist, but the subject never came up. I actually did enjoy the conversation, though. Kr was a little less into it, but she said that's because a big part of her workday is humoring people, so it's not exactly something she looks forward to when she goes to a bar to relax.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

The lady at American Apparel said it was for demographic studies.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

and if they can use this data to better ~~serve their customers~~ target their advertising

This is how I usually think of it.

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

The only times I make something up are when I go to a bar and there's some horrible band playing, and the drummer's girlfriend is going around with a clipboard asking people to sign up for the mailing list, and so I make up a fake e-mail just so they'll leave me alone.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

What's wrong with targeting their advertising? That seems important, too.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

Darryl, with Elaine in his apartment: "Elaine, thank you for the Wizard!"
[Elaine laughts somewhat awkwardly]
Darryl: "Wow, it's got so many functions."
Elaine: "Yeah, yeah. Forget about all that. First thing is first. Warranty
information. Name, we know that. Uh, hobbies. Skiing, racquetball..."
Darryl: "Well, I don't do that stuff."
Elaine: "It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. Um. Oh,
here's one: race."
Darryl: "Isn't that optional?"
Elaine: "It certainly should be. It's nobody's damn business! But they really
would like to know."
Darryl: "All right, I'm... Asian."
Elaine: "What?"
Darryl: "Just to mess with 'em."
Elaine: laughing awkwardly: "Oh. Right. Good one."
Darryl: "Average income, uh... over a hundred thousand."
Elaine: "Really?"
Darryl: "Does that matter?"
Elaine: "No, but... it is very nice to know."

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

You know, I have that debate with myself sometimes. On the one hand, I suppose it's nice to be offered goods and services that are of interest to me. On the other hand, I just hate the feeling of being manipulated by a for-profit corporation into spending my dollars on their goods and services.

Usually my fury at feeling manipulated wins out.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

my local has a few interesting construction workers but i rarely get there in time to see them anymore as i work later and later and they still have to be on the job site before 6 a.m. i did see bricklayer johnny when i went out for smokes on monday night.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

I won't give my phone number at stores because I just worry it means I'll be getting more junk calls.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever been asked for my phone number! As it stands, everyone just uses my cell phone, anyway, so I know that if my home phone rings, 90% of the time it's a telemarketer.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

You know, I have that debate with myself sometimes.

same, if it's someplace i shop often and know i'll shop again i'll occasionally give my information. if it's someplace i'm loathe to shop i'll give false infomation. sometimes after i give the fake zip code the cashier will ask, "oh, where is that?" and i always answer "bitterroot, maine". i don't know if there is a bitter root maine or not but whatever.

i got bitched at at linens n things in river forest when i didn't want to give my information. apparently it was a new cashier and a more seasoned employee told her that it was ok, i didn't have to give the information. then the cashier scowled at me. it was great and i haven't been back to LNT since.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

At Best Buy, they ask for your phone number every time.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

See, what could Best Buy possibly do with my phone number that is any good? I refuse to give info rather than give false info because I want them to know that I resent the question. I want that entry-level cashier in the oppressive, dead-end job, who has absolutely no voice in the workplace to know that I disapprove of the policies that she has absolute no control over.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

90210

― Jeff, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

ABSOLUT MARKETING

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

See, what could Best Buy possibly do with my phone number that is any good?

they use it to track your purchases then sell that data to a data mining farm who buy data from OTHER stores and use the phone number as a key to track household purchases then target their advertising that way.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

I'm unconvinced that's good. It makes my paranoid conspiracy theory sense tingle.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

it makes my "we're all serving our corporate overlords" vitriol well up.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

I don't mind giving out my zip code, but the two I don't like:
* Going to small theaters where I'm just a stranger buying a ticket but am asked for my name and/or address.
* Guitar center, where I just want some strings or a cheap tuner, and they want my address, etc., etc.

Tangentially, and maybe John has read this, in Nicholson Baker's Room Temperature, he talks about being a kid in Rochester, N.Y., and riding his bike to an intersection where the city is installing a stoplight. There's a cable laying across the road, and he realizes that it's there to help determine the length of the stoplights. He rides his bike over the cable many times, and then imagines the data from that intersection used in stoplights across the country.

And even more tangentially - Laurel, is your co. publishing M1randa July's book of short stories?

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

and i don't mean to get all pacific northwest anarchist "let's jam the system, man" here but if i can make that form of data mining a little less accurate or usuable or whatever i think it's a step in the right direction.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

EZ, not that I know of? Have never heard of that person.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

i know some people in the PNW who really, really don't like her. she seems inoffensive enough so i don't know if it's sour grapes or what but man, she really seems to have polarized some people in the rose city.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:54 (eighteen years ago)

that said her singing is some of the worst caterwaulling i have ever heard come from my speakers.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

She wrote/directed/acted in Me and You and Everyone We Know. Scr1bner's publishing her first book of short stories in May. Thought I might try to fanagle an advance copy.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

I just imagine being the guy who's trying to use that data in a useful manner. I mean, I guess he understands that there's going to be some noise, but still, it sucks to have the accuracy ruined.

This is probably the part where I say I used to read back issues of American Demographics magazine at the public library when I was 15.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

What is it with you and the PNW allasudden?

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, some Portland folks I know dis her too, Kevin. I don't know her work much, outside of the movie and another short film and a New Yorker short story.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

Me, You, and Everyone We Know kind of annoyed me in its preciousness, but I genuinely enjoyed the short story that was in The New Yorker.

I know Kelsey is a fan of her as a conceptual artist.

I haven't read Room Temperature.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

i don't know jenny i thought the same thing.
eazy, i'm thinking it's part sour grapes (she's actually DOING stuff) and part her being a careerist (latching onto whatever artistic flavor of the month).

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

Room Temperature is a novel about a guy waiting for his baby daughter to fall asleep. The main external action is that, at one point, he blows some air toward the mobile above her and the mobile starts to move a little bit.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

This is probably the part where I say I used to read back issues of American Demographics magazine at the public library when I was 15.

Please tell me you're serious because that's precious.

I used to do all this nonsense with MASSIVE GIANT databases of demographic info at a bank for a living. I didn't have to be concerned with it's actual accuracy, though, just it's ability to be manipulated in a lot of junk-mail producing ways.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

jaymc, let's not find that guy if I drink in Chicago this summer.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

I have a bad feeling Room Temp would make me commit violence. Never saw her movie, tho!

― Laurel, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

I like Nicholson Baker.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

That's the escalator book guy, isn't it?

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

Room Temperature is a novel about a guy waiting for his baby daughter to fall asleep. The main external action is that, at one point, he blows some air toward the mobile above her and the mobile starts to move a little bit.

So basically, it's like every Nicholson Baker novel. Well, maybe not Vox or The Fermata or the one about assassinating George W. Bush, but definitely like The Mezzanine and A Box of Matches.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

Yes. "The Mezzanine." That's a good one. Some of his books are semipornographic.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

OK, probably not like The Everlasting Story of Nory, either, which I also haven't read. But I feel like his reputation is probably cemented on either The Mezzanine or Vox, and the latter just because it gained notoriety after Clinton gave a copy to Lewinsky.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

Also, and I've said this a million times, his use of discursive footnotes predated DFW's.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

I am sad that we never got a real conversation going about the drunk driver blaming a unicorn for his accident.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

xpostarama!

The Mezzanine is the shortest book I have ever been unable to finish. Does anything happen in his semipornographic books or are they like 150 pages of one man's thoughts during the first thrust of intercourse?

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

The unicorn WAS DRIVING! That's the best part.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

The one I've read (and own), "The Fermata," is about a guy who can stop time, and basically uses this skill for pornographic purposes.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

I think "Vox" is just a phone sex conversation.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

I loved that article, thanks for posting it. There's something weirdly compelling about the string of words "Man Tells Cops Unicorn Caused Crash."

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

You don't really hear much about unicorns these days. I saw one at the Barnum & Bailey circus when I was a kid.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

I get the feeling that The Fermata would cause rage.

I need to ascertain how many calories I burn while enraged. I think I could parlay that into a reasonably successful diet and exercise plan.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

"Enrage The Pounds Away"

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

The only thing I disliked about The Mezzanine, when I reread it a few years ago, was that the narrator seemed solipsistic. I know, duh, right -- the whole thing is an internal monologue. But more like a self-absorbed yuppie than I was comfortable with. But I could read pages upon pages of his observations about bendy straws, and how, after a shower, you have to brush off floor-debris from the soles of your feet before putting socks on.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.impawards.com/1982/posters/last_unicorn.jpg

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

Man, I am going to eat so much pie this afternoon. I hear there will be pecan and peanut butter mousse.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

My favorite part of Vox is when he describes how some 1970s funk songs fade out at the end, giving you the impression that the band is playing all night but the record people had to bring the party to a close.

And The Fermata has a good description of the threads on the backside of a label stitched onto a beach towel.

I like how The Mezzanine describes technology in the stage where its parts and process are still visible, before it becomes digital and hidden.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

I just misread an IM from Leslie as "and the unicorns love him" instead of "and the unions love him." About Barrack Obama.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

"lo, the unicorns found their chosen leader, and they loved him so."

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

This is the unicorn I saw as a kid.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

Now according to that, unicorns can only be tamed by a "beautiful, silvery young lady" -- what the fuck chance does Obama have?

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

beautiful, silvery young lady

emmylou harris?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

Apparently it was a goat.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

Emmylou Harris is not young.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

I saw that unicorn, too.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

lol @ horny goat

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

Emmylou Harris is not young.

compartively she is. i mean, when you're dealing with mythic creatures and all.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

This tea tastes like hot Peptobismal.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

These pretzels are making me thirsty.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

those last two posts could be lyrics from the new stooges album. iggy just isn't trying anymore.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

I have purposely avoided downloading the new album due to fears of awfulness.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

nick, i know you're a bright, imaginative guy but it is so much worse than you caould possibly conceive.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

It's on Luisterpaal. I was thinking about listening to it when I'm done with Gui Boratto.

For the record, and I realize this is heresy, but "My Idea of Fun" is better than most of the old Stooges stuff I've heard. It reminds me of Dirty-era Sonic Youth.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

Kev, did you end up getting a copy of that record (from the other day) off of eBay?

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

dan, yeah, i bought one. i low-balled an offer and got it for $20 shipping included. the seller is actually spike p3netrator. selling off the last of his merch i guess?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

http://a257.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/22/l_42245bb3adc81315fdef1458a4108030.jpg

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

Wow that is somewhat obnoxious.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

It's an awesome poster, though.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

Oh good colors!

― Laurel, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

yeah that is a good poster

― river wolf, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

Rake Rictions?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

god damn, the AC is going full blast in here, it must be 55 degrees.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

That is a cool poster :D

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

Great poster.

I like "My Idea of Fun".

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

But I am a punk duffer.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

Then again, I don't like the vocal on it at all. I just like the guitars.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 17:19 (eighteen years ago)

More praise for the poster. That looks great!

― Jenny, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

Ben made it. He knows what he's doing.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know who anyone is anymore.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

(I do like the poster)

Me neither. Who is catsup dude?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

I think it's JW.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

Hmmm. I think I need to put some Stooges on my ipod, ie: Fun House and Raw Power. Nick, do we have the self-titled album on cd? I think we have it on vinyl...

― KitCat, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, we also have a live album or something...

― KitCat, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

We have all of the albums and Metallic KO (one of the live bootlegs) on CD. They should all already be on the computer.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

i was listening to fun house the other day while doing my dishes, i love love LOVE that album.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

I can't remember if I've asked this before, but have you guys (N/S specifically, everyone else too) ever heard Blood on the Wall? I think they were Pf0rk darlings for about a minute and a half, but their record is pretty decent and you might like it.

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

Also they have a song titled "Reunite on Ice".

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

I have the Blood on the Wall album. I think it's OK but I'm not crazy about it.

I believe that Fun House is the best American rock and roll album.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

that's nice.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

dang, sonned in a lack of xpost notification beef.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

That was for Jenny more than anything else.

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

I believe that Fun House is the best American rock and roll album

hmmmm. i would have to think for a long time to disagree with you.

first person who says "pet sounds" get's hit with a wrench in the mouth.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

I listened to Fun House the other day, surprised to find it on my iPod. I respect the Stooges, but that record is way too blues-derivative to do much for me at all.

I obv. like the Beach Boys much more, but Pet Sounds isn't even my favorite record by them. And I'm assuming that "best American rock and roll album" implies something a bit more, umm, "rockin'." So I'd probably have to say, I dunno, Daydream Nation.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

oh gawd

― river wolf, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

What?

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

And yours, Evan?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder what I think is the best American rock & roll album.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

jordan, you think the best american rock 'n' roll album is billy joel's 52nd street. you are roundly mocked after revealing this.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

No actually I'm going with

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002UUX.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

Hi guys. Lunch break. I'm learnding!

People with cameras are automatically 10% creepier than those without.

Surely, but also keep in mind, I have a big-ass camera hanging around my neck, if not a tripod. I'm not planting micro-cameras in the women's room, here, people.

If you would rather pose for a photo, you all know where I live. :)

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

Since others are doing it...

http://ec3.images-amazon.com/images/P/B00006NSGI.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

^^^has done a lot for me, personally

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

and really, i would LOVE that. Taking portrait-stylee photos instead of random snaps would be a step up for me.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

dan, i fucking LOVE that fucking record. fuck.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.2skinnypros.com/blog2/uploaded_images/octa-778058.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002UUX.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

I also love love love Dr. Octagonecologist. Top 5 hip-hop for me, for sure.

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)

Oh wait, that's the instrumental version? Weird.

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, Pet Sounds is not a rock and roll album.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

You know what's weird? I've only actually ever heard the instrumental version.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

You're SO missing out!

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

So I've heard!

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

Brian Wilson's bit in the Theremin documentary is hilarious.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

My iPod = "I Touch Myself" by the Divinyls followed by "Phantasmagoria" by Cathedral

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

Brian Wilson's bit in the Theremin documentary is hilarious.

I thought it was sad. Guess it depends on your frame of mind. But he was really not in good shape at that point.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

dan and kenan OTMFM, that Jehu album is the shit.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

i was more 'oh gawd' at not liking raw power because it's too 'bluesy'

― river wolf, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

I don't really remember it, I saw that movie so long ago. I still do "Someday My Prince Will Come," Clara Rockmore-style, when I'm doing a theremin impression, though.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

i was more 'oh gawd' at not liking raw power because it's too 'bluesy'

I don't like the blues -- what do you want?

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

...you to like the blues?

― river wolf, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry, chuckles -- it ain't gonna happen!

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

chuckles!

― river wolf, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

However, since the 33 1/3 on Court and Spark gave me a deeper appreciation for Joni's lyrics, I wondered if maybe reading some good criticism of Dylan (like Greil Marcus or some shit) would open him up a little for me.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

I know Dylan != blues, I'm just musing about music I find dull.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

"Chuckles" makes me envision John as Sawyer on Lost.

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

You liked my band, right John? Ain't nothin but the blues.

I thought it was sad. Guess it depends on your frame of mind. But he was really not in good shape at that point.

I don't know too much about him, actually, but I thought that he at least looked good and was speaking pretty coherently, even if it sounded like a rambling music critic. The craziness was kind of bubbling under the surface.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan, your band plays jazz.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

My favorite albums of 1970 are Bryter Layter by Nick Drake, Sunflower by the Beach Boys[/i], and Curtis by Curtis Mayfield.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

But it's not jazz jazz. There's not a lot of seventh chords and no one is playing bebop licks. Only a couple songs are 12 bar form, but even the r&b stuff would be nothing without the bluesiness. Is this a question of "the blues = the genre" vs. bluesy note choices/licks/influence?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

I'm okay with bluesy licks (cf. Steely Dan). And while I vastly prefer maj-7ths to dom-7ths, the mere presence of a dom-7th isn't what makes it dull. It's the crude, predictable 12-bar form that makes me want to hit my head against a wall.

I'm surprised you're all surprised by this. I feel like I talk about this like once a week.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan, your band plays jazz.

someone's missing the point. I won't say who.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

Jazz >>> blues because maj-7th >>> dom-7th, and because always-varying 32-bar Gershwin-style structures >>> never-changing (I-V-I-VI-V-I ad infinitum) 12-bar structures.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

I could agree with you about the 12 bar form, esp. when it comes to the electric Blueshammer stuff that you hear on the radio all the time.

My favorite Howlin' Wolf tunes are the ones that stay on one chord the whole time.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

omg Burger Baron for lunch. This is a good-ass burger.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

"Always-varying" is probably a poor choice of words. What I mean is that even though Gershwin obeyed the 32-bar Tin Pan Alley verse-chorus-verse structure, he was not beholden to using the same chord progression IN EVERY FUCKING SONG.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

My favorite Howlin' Wolf tunes are the ones that stay on one chord the whole time

bo diddley too.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

Staying on one chord is cool.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

Disliking music because of the time signature/chord progression is beyond rockist. It's some kinda uber meta rockist.

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

But the obligatory uptempo blues track on a bebop record is usually the highlight.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks, Kevin -- you just reminded me of something!

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

rothko paintings are BORING

― river wolf, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

lol rothko

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

"14 black paintings? Who needs 14 black paintings?"

― kenan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

Pie is being served in my office as I write this. The time specified in the mass-email that was sent? 3/14, 1:59:26.

NERDS (I love it)

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

ok that is awesome!

― river wolf, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

sine sine cosine sine
3.14159!

― river wolf, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

Disliking music because of the time signature/chord progression is beyond rockist. It's some kinda uber meta rockist.

Okay, that's not true, and you know why? Because I didn't make an a priori decision not to like a song because of a certain chord progression or whatever. Instead, I realized after a while that I was constantly bored by certain songs/genres, and so I sought to determine if there was some sort of commonality there, and based on my background as a musician, I was able to figure out that yes, there was. Similarly, I'm always surprised at how much I like particular songs in genres I'm otherwise indifferent to, and only later do I figure out that it's because the song uses major-7th chords, so I mean it's not like I'm trying to be pretentious or anything, it's just that my body is somehow hard-wired to love the shit out of major-7th chords, even when they're used in, like, Foo Fighters songs or whatever.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

Also, I really like Rothko. For a while, I didn't have much of an opinion on him one way or another, but a professor I had in the UK said that the way to approach Rothko is to go to a museum that has one of his large-scale paintings and just stand a few feet away from it and stare at it and lose yourself in it and feel the colors and the moods becoming palpable and shifting depending on where you looked. So I went to the Tate and I did that, and he was right, it was pretty great. And I happen to prize the experiential/phenomenological component of art, anyway.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

You know what else I love? When the bass is playing a particular note (I) and then on the next chord dips down to IV (so like C down to to A), while the guitar/keyboard/melodic instrument is playing the exact same arpeggiated figure. I don't know why, but I really love that (maybe it's how the major chord subtly becomes minor), and I actually think it's something I first noticed in late 90s emo.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, that room at the tate is pretty good.

apparently those were originally commissioned for a restaurant???

― river wolf, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

Pie eaten thus far: 1/2 slice peanut butter mousse, 1/2 slice pecan, 1 slice pumpkin

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

even when they're used in, like, Foo Fighters songs or whatever.

That's as low as you go? Some popist!

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

i]You know what else I love? When the bass is playing a particular note (I) and then on the next chord dips down to IV (so like C down to to A), while the guitar/keyboard/melodic instrument is playing the exact same arpeggiated figure[/i]

I love that too!

John, did I send you that track I did called The Farm? It's maj 7th chord heaven.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

See, what could Best Buy possibly do with my phone number that is any good?

I'm late to this discussion, but I wanted to tell you that Best Buy records your name and address as well if you buy something under a warranty, then in the future, they link your phone number to it. This is the only place I would give my phone number. Also, a cashier told me that it would not be shared.

Oh, and Dominick's uses your phone number in lieu of your savings card, if you don't have it on you.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

Wow. I feel like I've missed a lot . . . mostly because Jordan mentioned Howlin' Wolf & I think the last time I posted about cds I bought, Howlin' Wolf was one of them.
Speaking of Bob Dylan, I bought Karen Dalton "In My Own Time" yesterday & the new Lucinda Williams album.

― sweet tater, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

That's as low as you go? Some popist!

I don't know what this means...?

I'm not making a point about high or low or whatever, just genres I like and those I don't like. Lots of chart-pop and R&B are filled with maj-7th chords, so it's no surprise that I like a lot of that stuff. I'm talking about when I hear a maj-7th chord in a place where I wouldn't expect to find one, like in a dude-rock song. (And Foo Fighters might not be the best example, except that I was thinking principally of "Everlong" and all those crunchy maj-7ths.)

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

John, did I send you that track I did called The Farm? It's maj 7th chord heaven.

I don't think so!

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

Everlong is a good song.

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

Or that one Neil Young song on Silver and Gold that sounds vaguely like "If You're Feeling Sinister."

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

john, i feel like making you a mix cd of songs that you probably don't like but i really do like & so maybe you'll find something to love about them through the fog of your ignorance. i don't know why i feel like i could be the one to help break you into certain dylan songs or other blues songs...but maybe i could?

and also, ignorance is a very poor word choice, but i could think of nothing else at the moment.

― sweet tater, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

i don't know why i feel like i could be the one to help break you into certain dylan songs or other blues songs...but maybe i could?

Because you introduced me to Neil Young and Joni Mitchell back when I despised the idea of acoustic guitars?

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, maybe that's it!

― sweet tater, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

I will say that I'm always open to listening to mixes.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

Today in particular, for whatever reason, i really feel like making mix cds. I feel like making a breakup mix (b/c a friend just got broken up with recently), I feel like making a John's Challenge 2007 mix . . . plus there's always those little mix ideas i've had floating around for a while now.

― sweet tater, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

At Christmas, I gave mix cds to both my sisters, but not my mom. She was like wha wha whaaa where's mine? And I had to explain to her that I started a mix cd for her but just didn't have the perfect combo of songs together, so she didn't get one. I don't just throw those together willy-nilly! Then since then we got some things I thought she might like, so she got one for her bday.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

I also feel like I'm not a hardcore music person so nothing is forced, if that makes sense. No offense to you hardcore music folks, but sometimes you come off a wee strong. It's the record store worker complex thing.

― sweet tater, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

I like hardcore!

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

jaymc, I just meant "even" should've preceded something worse maybe? Being musically illiterate, I don't know a crunchy 7th from a Fluffernutter.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

Where does Jenny disappear to every afternoon?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

I smell smoked trout.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

My vest is made out of shoelaces.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

haha

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

I'm really tired. Remember yesterday when I said that I've been working myself to a pulp (a situation I purposely put myself into)? Well, it got worse. I had 2 days off this week, but I filled them with work. So that was over 2 weeks with just one day off.

The new schedule came out, and my next day off is Thursday, March 22. That's March 3-March 21 with only 2 days off in between. And I did it to myself. But at least I'll be RICH--or would be if I weren't working to pay back the tax man.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

My German and Mexican work ethics battle it out a lot of the time.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

God, I remember those kinds of stretches of work in the kitchen. After a while it starts infecting your dreams and shit... *shudder*

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

Not to mention... the chafing. Oh, the chafing.

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

You're not just flappin' your gums. But I have been smart enough to powder like a madman.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

I was never a server, just a kitchen worker/hostess, but when I worked at Golden Corrall (1st job ever), I relied on a ton of overtime hours. And then the manager let me start working at 8am instead of 10am, since my dad dropped me off at the Texaco across the street at 6am every morning. So I'd work from 8am to 2 (closing) every day for a summer basically. That was the best summer of my life.*

*No, it definitely wasn't.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

I smelled like bleach every day and had to wear these god-awful black jeans that were always soaked with bleach and grease by the time I got home.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, to be 17 again....

― KitCat, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

I was saving for college. The main cook was saving to bring over his wife & kids from India.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

The summer before I moved here I was picking up whatever shifts I could get for extra bank... I had two days off in the whole month of July, and only because we were closed on the 4th! That may have been the hardest I have ever worked at anything, ever. What a waste of time.

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

Dan will not be telling his grandkids, "...And let me tell you rascals--it was a good tired!"

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

I don't envy you lot one bit.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

When the Virginia Realtor hired me, he said it was mostly because I had worked in food service, and he knew from experience that meant I had a good work ethic. He used to be a manager at a P0nder0sa.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

I was saying to some friends last night that I have guilt over never putting in my service industry time. I've always worked retail and office jobs. Maybe if I ever leave this job I'll do a few months of waiting tables and construction.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

Myown version of a not-uncommon topic of server conversastion:

Instead of a mandatory year of military service, as is the way in some countries, we should do a mandatory year of employment in service of some sort--candy striper, waiter, cashier, barrista, maid, etc.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

The best ones I can think of would be candy-striper or food service.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

(Waiting for the stripper jokes....)

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

Also my guilt over this means I always tip well in restaurants.

(please do not take this as a license to talk about tipping again)

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/176/421371298_ce0a5c3f86.jpg?v=0

This is a picture of Nick's crotch.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

Other pics

"All you can oops"?? Whaaa?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/147/335967794_33d4a65265.jpg?v=0

A graffito.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/128/421371155_1eeaa295b8.jpg?v=0

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

Me enjoying Soundbar

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/125/421371223_4738f58488.jpg?v=0

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

That is a transcendant crotch shot.

(was it taken with his permission?)

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

I have done my time and then some in the service industry.
Restaurant jobs: 5 restaurants, total years served = 3 (some didn't last long...)
Retail (record store, but still) = 3 years

Those 6 years did not overlap.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

Yes.

I said this here before, but I was taking pics of the light, and Nick walked into the shot. I told him to move his crotch out of my pic, but he refused. So I took this pic.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/183/392252517_b7cd22629f.jpg?v=0

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

Being shy ain't what it used to be.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

The only job I've had that wasn't in an office was the job I had painting dorm rooms one summer during college, but even though that entailed some strenuous work, the whole thing was kind of a joke.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

I'm too shy to kiss real men, so I consoled myself with this guy.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

In spanish, the word for dildo is consolador. That means consoler.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

There's a Golden Corrall in Bolingbrook. I went to one in Arkansas once and liked it.

Creedence Clearwater Revival Chronicle is my vote for the best American rock record.

I've had a terrible time with Best Buy on Clark Street over the past 2+ months. They've had my laptop since January 8. (I'm using Lindsay's at home.) I could rant and rant and rant and rant.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

What do they say is wrong with your laptop?

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

Since Jan 8? That's terrible.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

There's a Golden Corrall in Bolingbrook

That must be new -- I don't think it was there when I lived there.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

I brought it in because it gave me a blue error screen and shut off after about 5-10 minutes. I turned it back on, backed up a few files, same thing happened.

The guy there figured that a fan had died. So they took it, sent it to their service center in Kentucky, called me back three weeks later. I pick it up, sign for it (the guy who signed it in told me to keep the plug, but this meant that they couldn't plug it in and test it). I bring it home, it turns on but the screen is black. I flip over the laptop and see that the fan is still dead. So I paid parts and service for parts and service that weren't performed.

Plus, my three-year service plan expired the week before I brought it in. Too bad, guy says. But then I find out through customer service that there is actually a two-week grace period to renew the plan after it expired.

Anyway, twice now since then I've gotten a call saying it's fixed and ready to be picked up, only to show up and find out that it is not fixed and ready to be picked up. The latest time this happened was last week.

I call yesterday and leave a message, hear nothing back, stop by last night and see my phone message sitting right there next to the cash register.

Bad service upon bad service upon bad service.

Called again today, no one has called back.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

Pardon the lengthy yet undramatic story. It certainly pisses me off.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

That makes me angry just reading it! Have you tried doing a Jenny and going STRAIGHT TO THE TOP with this bullshit?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

This is very much like what happened with our computer. It was, I guess, a bad hard drive that expired 6 weeks after our warranty ran out. There was no grace period, we had to get a new hard drive and lost tons of stuff. The end.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

That's awful, Eric.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

I've talked to customer service on the phone a bunch of times -- had to do that in order to get the service plan renewed. Still, when I picked up the laptop in late January and signed for it, I had to pay for it then (not knowing the plan could be renewed), but I keep waiting until the damn thing is ready before getting that refunded. And my sense now is that it's just sitting on a shelf because they don't know whether to fix it there or send it back to Kentucky for a third time.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

Son of a bun those people need to get to fixing your computer, ffs.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

Well, if anyone is thinking of getting a new computer, here's my expereicne--I was very pleased with the service I got from Dell when I smashed my laptop.

-Very easy to send in. You schedule a time for DHL to pick it up. They provide the packaging and postage.

-Fixed the problem. It is like new again.

-Quick turn-around. In less than 2 weeks I had my restored computer back.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

One guy with their customer service department says, "I can't pronounce this last name. Gotterdammerung?" Nice, racist.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

Not that this is helfpul or not an annoying thing to say at a time like this.....

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

that's incredibly exasperating. technology customer service is often a headachy slice of hell, but it sounds like you have an especially impressive level of that going on. fuck best buy.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

That was an xpost.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Dell sold me the hard drive that died 1 year and 6 weeks after I bought the computer, fwiw. I have no good feelings about Dell or BB.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

xp i had similar experience with dell. much as i hated the fucking machine, the customer service was pretty good.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

A racist who knows about German opera??

― Laurel, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

They charged me $40 for a phone call that erased my bad hard drive and did not fix my computer. I do not approve of their post-warranty service at ALL.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

Yeh. I was probably lucky. I usually have worse experiences with this sort of thing.

When my TV died it took a month and a half to get it back.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

Fuck Best Buy indeed. Their "Geek Squad" that they're so proud of? Yeah, all they do is run adaware. Maybe spybot too. If that doesn't fix it you're off to the cyclical hell that EZ is experiencing.

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

Pardon my bile.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

i guess i had a stroke of luck with them (dell) customer-service wise. the only problem was that i hated the computer.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

Your bile is awesome!

― dan m, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

This new Geek Squad ad campagin must demoralize their employees a bit. The brand always implied a kind of Dan Ackroyd Dragnet-style geek, cool in its own way, but now the ads in the store have taglines along the lines of "our agents are lonely and can't get laid, so they're helping you 24 hours a day."

― Eazy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

it's helpful with their geek squad if you're female. it was a couple of years ago that i used them--they had to come back twice, but they configured my internet phone despite the weird network i was on at my old place. the guy hit on me for most of the time he was there, though, and left his phone number on a text file. how professional.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

hahahaha xp

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

My mistake with the TV was that I did not spend the $100 on BB's extended service plan. I would have been able to bring it to BB and pick it up there much easier and faster. Had I purchased a service plan I wouldn't have had to take it to the ONE Samsung Authorized service center in the 9000 South block of Chicago and pick it up myself. And wait for them to fix it.

Turned out that the TV was completely fried. The warranty on the TV was only 1 year, and it did not start over on the replacement TV. It has expired.

If you're spending more than say $300, the supplemental warranty is well worth while!

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

WHOA.

Argo Tea is SHAKING AND RATTLING. But not rolling. The constuction across the street is making little earthquakes here.

Oooohhh, these Little Earthquakes/Heeeere we go again...

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, and I had to handle all the warranty fuckers myself, and it was hard. And I wound up having to email the regional director of warranties repeatedly to get my TV fixed and back to me.

A retailer's supplemental warranty would have saved me this hassle too.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

jesus h to hell with these warranties and these people

xp - the geeks did not hit on me at all, but i think they were all in high school.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

...not that they would have had they NOT been in high school, but you know.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

On that note, I bid you adieu.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

and left his phone number on a text file. how professional.

lolz

I hate my Dell laptop, but the Dell PC I bought off a friend is super solid (then again, it's never been hooked up to the internets and I only use it to run Cubase).

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

Dell Laptop are like made of cardoard or something. I hate the feeling that the laptop is bending (with bigger ones)

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 22:08 (eighteen years ago)

just catching up . . . so sorry to hear about your luck, eric! stuff like that brings out a demon in me & i turn into a ranting bitch to anyone who is connected to the problem by miles. i'm available for rent . . . but i'm guessing that jenny would get better results.

― sweet tater, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 22:22 (eighteen years ago)

Whoah - that picture of my crotch is AWESOME. It's the perfect cover for my solo album of synthesized sex jams.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 22:37 (eighteen years ago)

That is, jams about synthesized sex.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 22:42 (eighteen years ago)

sex about synthesized jams

― Jordan, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

Mmmm jam.

― n/a, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

No posts in more than 12 hours? WTF is wrong with everyone?

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:33 (eighteen years ago)

You were all binging on jam, weren't you.

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:33 (eighteen years ago)

I just grossed myself out.

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:33 (eighteen years ago)

One of the bussers tricked me with a gag lighter that gave a pretty stout shock when you tried press it with your thumb. A Mexican girl I work with saw it happen and said, "Oh, let me see that!" and proceeded to shock herself a couple of times. I was like, WTF, but she told me that shocking is a popular form of amusement in Mexico. .Of course I didn't believe this, but a bunch of other Mexicans backed her up, saying that at street fairs and parks a pretty standard feature is a guy with a shock machine. You hold a wire in each hand and he cranks up the juice till you can't stand it. She said that the knob is 1-100, and she could do 60 and her boyfriend 100. She said it made you feel good afterward.

Apparently, it makes your muscles spasm and flex involuntarily.

I gathered that it's supposed to be a sort of tonic.

― Jesse, Thursday, 15 March 2007 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

I heard some news story yesterday about this family that had been shocking their autistic son with a cattle prod for like 20 years because it was the only treatment that kept him from punching himself, but now some judge ruled that they can't shock him anymore.

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:06 (eighteen years ago)

There was a Law and Order like that I think.

― Jesse, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:09 (eighteen years ago)

There's been a Law and Order for just about every situation

I'm not sure if I'm getting it completely right, but in Japan the onsen baths include a mildly-shocking hot tub along with saunas, etc.

― dan m, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:14 (eighteen years ago)

Mexicans are crazzzy! Shockah!

― Jesse, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:17 (eighteen years ago)

Bah. Shut up.

― Jesse, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

Cute mohawk

― Jeff, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

that was after a carbona's show in memphis. i was talking to some friends of mine and the girl had 3 maybe 4 beers then got behind the wheel. it was her birthday and she was celebrating the fact that she had just got OUT of jail.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

She is pretty cute.

Can anyone recommend a good place to get alterations done? On a rather important piece of clothing? Just wonderin'.

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

I would like to know where as well. I need to get my old man coat altered. I was thinking of going to Macys, I think they do alterations?

― Jeff, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

Hmm.. I guess so? I'm sure they do alterations for things you buy there, but I just don't know if you can bring in your own things.

Next: Have any of you bought a polaroid camera in the last few years? Do you have any input on which one I should get? There is a comparison sheet [Removed Illegal Link]

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:52 (eighteen years ago)

W

T

F?

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:52 (eighteen years ago)

Do I get a mug shot now?

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway, maybe I should just borrow a polaroid camera.

Hey, let's see if my raise was included in today's paycheck, shall we? Drum roll......

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

Yep, though he only did a retroactive raise for one paycheck instead of two like he was supposed to do.

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

I went to bed at 8.30 last night, because apparently I'm sick again. And then roommate brought her date home and woke me at 2, and kept me up with her laughing and stomping up and down the hallway, and dropping things on the wood floor until approx 4am. I didn't say anything to her at the time, because a) I was really out of it and b) it's more likely to be productive for her to feel guilty than to resent me for putting her in the wrong. Ahhh life!

― Laurel, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry you are a sick-a-bed, Laurel.

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

WELL ACTUALLY I'M AT WORK. But thanks! :)

― Laurel, Thursday, 15 March 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.zappos.com/images/725/7257023/4998-290547-p.jpg

New shoes!

― Jeff, Thursday, 15 March 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

Yay!

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

I am short one $100 pair of headphones. :( In class yesterday, I threw my coat over the back of the chain, leaving wires hanging out of my pocket. They got tangled around the rollers of the chair -- wrapped a surprising number of times, and in weird ways. Ripped the wires out of the headphones, bent the phones themselves, just mangled them. Seriously fucked up headphones. Maybe now is the time to buy a pair of Shures.

Also, I want this.

― kenan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

I got these this weekend, but can't wear them for at least a few more weeks...
http://sc7img.dillards.com/is/image//DillardsZoom/swx990_zi?layer=comp&op_usm=2.0,0.5&&rgn=0,0,1760,2040&scl=6.666666666666667&fmt=jpeg&id=1QyOt3TXJK10ti8fyqpQ03

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.icanhascheezburger.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/piano.jpg

― Jenny, Thursday, 15 March 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone going to see THE EGYPTIAN LOVER on saturday?
i cant wait

― deej, Thursday, 15 March 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

What ist THE EGYPTIAN LOVER?

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

Geoff forwarded me something about The Egyptian Lover. He's out of town this weekend but said I should go.

― Eazy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

What's the club that he's playing at? I'd never heard of it.

― Eazy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

Is it a movie? A DJ? I don't understand.

My dad wants to go see Namesake with me on Saturday, and I agreed to it, and then I just now realized that it's St. Patrick's Day and it would get in the way of my plans for all-day drinking.

Then again, I had a dream right before I woke up wherein I was at Hopleaf or Simon's, but they had a backyard patio sort of like the Village Tap, and I was drinking a beer that was 34% alcohol, and I was telling myself I shouldn't be drinking so much when I'd just gotten drunk the night before.

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

I am in my new office now. It is pretty sweet. It has a DOOR.

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

Awesome. Those are perfect for lunchtime naps.

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

Space under the desk = lookin good

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

My cat was high as a kite last night. She had this pain patch on after getting spayed and I think it was getting to her...I finally took it off when she started spazzing out like Martin Sheen in the beginning of Apocalypse Now.

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha ha.

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

I guess that's still better than Marlon Brando in Apocalypse Now.

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/junk/beware-ides.png

― dan m, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

OH FUCK

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

The Ides of March have gotten so overcommercialized. It's gotten so that it's just about selling greeting cards.

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

WATCH FOR FALLING IDES

― dan m, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

SLOW
CONSTRUCTION: NEXT 15 IDES

― dan m, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

Amanda: Dan's friend's book just keeps printing; we're rushing our current reprint and pushing another "rush" one, so congratulations to him!

― Laurel, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

I can just imagine the Hallmark cards for the Ides of March. It'll be like the opposite of Valentine's Day, and the catch phrase will be, "Et tu, baby?" With like a picture of a mean evil woman stabbing a dude in the back. Very grim holiday.

On second thought, let's forget that, and campaign for the popularization of Pi Day.

― kenan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

those are pretty, Sarah! (the shoes, I mean.)

― horseshoe, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

Img searching Marlon Brando is surprisingly non-work safe, but here is a show cat named Marlon Brando:

http://www.hotkey.net.au/~fccvic/cy544.jpg

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

I still haven't decided who I'm going to betray today.

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

How about your dignity?

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

Saving it for the weekend.

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

but here is a show cat named Marlon Brando:

The one on the left or on the right?

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

Lucy is prettier than that cat.

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:54 (eighteen years ago)

They should have a reality show on Animal Planet like Top Model but for mix breed cats.

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:54 (eighteen years ago)

Meowlon Brando

― dan m, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:54 (eighteen years ago)

This is a show about 12 cats who all live together...

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

The one on the left or on the right?

rimshot.jpg

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

More like Marlon BranDON'T!

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

Happy Ides!

http://www.wondermark.com/comics/039.gif

― Laurel, Thursday, 15 March 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

ides of march = towga's birthday.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.icanhascheezburger.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/corncob.jpg

― Jenny, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

my friend, whom some of you met at my birthday TT, works for g3tty imag3s and she said that yesterday she got paid to look at pictures of kittens for almost 6 hours. KITTENS!!!

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

With that kind of database she could rule all of ILX.

― dan m, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.icanhascheezburger.com

― Jenny, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

One of my new coworkers has a birthday today so we're going out for Chinese food...AT A GAS STATION.

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

We are having Thai food for an office lunch meeting.

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

So dudes, what do you guys want to do about the CHILX ALLSTAR JAM BAND song for the comp? Do we want to rerecord or do we want to do something with one of the tracks that we already recorded (like put vocals and extra stuff on top)? If we want vocals, is someone going to be in charge of coming up with lyrics/melody ideas? If we're recording again, are we rerecording the song we already came up with or trying to come up with something new?

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking only for myself, I think it'd be fun to fill out the ideas that you recorded last weekend, see which seems most appealing, and go with that, re-recording after we decide? I can't do much of anything but play drums, though, so the melody part is beyond my purview.

― dan m, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

I am in a quandary. Is Chappelle's Show officially over? Or is there always a slim chance that it might come back, since it was never actually canceled? This is for work, btw.

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Lover
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=45628181
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IdbmoerjdA

Tini Martini is on milwaukee, near the congress.

― deej, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

western and milwaukee is closest blue line

― deej, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

I had some vocal melody ideas for "Hair for Kramer," but I already feel too responsible for the chord progression. (Sometimes I have a hard time shaking the notion that the chord progression and melody are synonymous with the song itself.)

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfTg3ymB4lg

― deej, Thursday, 15 March 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

Amanda: Dan's friend's book just keeps printing; we're rushing our current reprint and pushing another "rush" one, so congratulations to him!
Whussup cover of NYT book review! Things could not be better for this dude.
My beloved Junie ate an entire chocolate bar last night. One of my students started crying after the midterm today. Things could be better, but they could also be worse. Junie seems ok and the student got a hug and seemed happier.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 15 March 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

explain me "Hair for Kramer"

― kenan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

It's one of the song bits that we came up with at the CHILX ALL-STAR JAM.

Was there some sort of mass pissing-in-cornflakes this morning? I've dealt with so many angry, snarky fuckers today...

― dan m, Thursday, 15 March 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, but why is it called Hair for Kramer?

― kenan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

It's like Flowers for Algernon.

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

Which of you boobs has forgotten how to read?

― La Lechera, Thursday, 15 March 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, I think it's just called "Hair of Kramer," but I sort of like "Hair for Kramer" better.

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

When is the re-recording session? Or what not? I'd like to be present, at the very least, even though I have virtually no musical proclivities at all.

― kenan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

Just show up and be minimal.

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

So minimal that you are completely silent.

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

Song sounds kind of jazzy -> makes me think of jazz-loving hipsters -> "hipster doofus" -> "Hair of Kramer"

So we just had our office lunch meeting, and they had this typical awards thing where they gave out prizes to people who met certain goals. The prizes? Starbucks gift cards. I think I now have literally $70 in Starbucks gift cards.

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

I was theorizing that we will develop an office economy based solely on Starbucks gift cards.

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

Looks like someone is taking me for coffee this weekend. :-D

What awards did you win, Nick?

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

Where no one actually buys coffee? I don't think I could spend $70 at Starbucks in a year, unless I bought a coffee maker.

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

They weren't really awards with names, they were just for people who met certain goals. Like I had an edit rate less than 10 for the past month. Which means nothing to anyone outside my office.

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

Song sounds kind of jazzy

Again, this is because I wrote the chords.

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

Dude, I never go to Starbucks because the lines are too long in the morning, but you could buy coffee beans or boxes of tea/chai or Torani syrups, or travel mugs, or or or

― Laurel, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

PASTRIES

― La Lechera, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

How much is a regular Starbucks coffee? About $3?
Some people (not Nick, not me) go to Starbucks every day of the work week.
So, that could potentially be $3 * 5 * 52 = $780.

Alot of 'Get out of Debt' articles begin with suggesting making your own coffee.

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

Ooh! We need coffee beans!

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

A grande coffee with tax is $1.90.

you could buy coffee beans or boxes of tea/chai or Torani syrups, or travel mugs

!!! We do need coffee beans and travel mugs! Now you're thinking!

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

Better way to get out of debt is OFFICE COFFEE

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

I could spend $70 at Starbucks without even trying very hard, and these days I pretty much stick to black brewed coffee.

― Jenny, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

I go to Starbucks because they are pretty much the only place to get coffee that is open at 5:45 a.m., aside from Dunkin' Donuts.

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

The coffee at my office is gross.

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

They should have a reality show on Animal Planet like Top Model but for mix breed cats.

Million-dollar idea.

Follow up to smarter-than-a-5th-grader: Are You More Agile Than A Cat?

Part of me says the three songs are what they are, and capture the moment, and cannot be reconstructed or recreated.

Another part of me says the little guitar thing I do on Kramer (I thought the producer before I thought Seinfeld) is the start of the melody/vocal line.

― Eazy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

Do you want pounds and pounds and pounds of coffee from everyone as a wedding gift? Like, giant burlap sacks worth?

― Eazy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

A grande coffee with tax is A grande coffee with tax is $1.90..90.

OK, that's what I thought. How come lame stand-up comics are always talking about $5 cups of coffee at Starbucks? I guess maybe they're that much if you're drinking whipped-cream low-fat caramel soy lattes or whatever. But nowhere does a simple cup of black coffee cost more than $2 anywhere.

Starbucks fits into my "do-what-you-can" philosophy. If there are no mom-and-pop coffee shops with decent coffee in the area, then, and only then, do I go to Starbucks. Actually, I don't even drink coffee anymore, so this was my theory four years ago. It's a revision from my Never Set Foot in Starbucks Ever philosophy that I preached at one point, during the time in my life when I was most inclined to read Adbusters and No Logo and attend Green Party rallies.

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

I think you guys should just lay vocals over what you did, and maybe edit it down a little.

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

(I thought the producer

Stanley Kramer??

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

Are You More Omnivorous Than a Dog?

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

German Brothel Offers 50-Percent Discount to Senior Citizens

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

This Kramer.

Hey, I just read that there's going to be a Chicago version of All Tomorrows Parties Don't Look Back, the series where, in London, bands played a record of theirs in its entirety. In the UK version, Iggy and the Stooges did Raw Power, Tortoise did Millions Now Living..., Green on Red did Gas Food Lodging, Cat Power did Moon Pix, and others...It'll be interesting to see what the lineup here is.

― Eazy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

I thought that was the first night of Pitchfork Fest...?

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not sure if this is the same or different from the Pitchfork night.

Starbucks = health insurance, no deep-fryer. Progress for the fast-food worker.

― Eazy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway, PFM sez they're announcing one of the bands tomorrow.

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

Friday, July 13
Pitchfork Music Festival
& All Tomorrow's Parties Present: Don't Look Back

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

hey gang, it's official - I'll be moving to chi-town in June (m'lady just heard this afternoon that she'll be at u of c for residency). exciting stuff, for sure. look forward to being a real chilxor now!

― stingy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

yay, stingy!

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

My favorite starbucks drink: Quad venti sugar free vanilla non-fat latte. It's at least $5.

― Jeff, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

I'm definitely intrigued as to who will be playing at this don't look back show, now that i could possibly go to it. I wonder who they'll dig up

― stingy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

I've heard rumors of Dismemberment Plan doing Emergency & I, which would make perfect sense because they just reunited for a couple shows in DC and because Pitchfork *loved* them back when that album came out.

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

That brothel story is kind of sweet. Oldies need it, too!

― kenan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

If so, that will make it just that much easier for me to resist buying tickets to this thing.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

that was an xp

― La Lechera, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

Quad venti sugar free vanilla non-fat latte

Sweet Jesus. You really are a yuppie! I thought you were kidding!

― kenan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

Slint's playing some festivals in Europe this summer too - could be them.

― Eazy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

Amanda, you can still buy tickets for Saturday and/or Sunday without doing the Friday night "Don't Look Back" spectacular.

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

I don't want to go AT ALL. I am just hoping it remains uninteresting to me this year. I want to resist completely.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, I'd rather something a little more classic than the dismemberment plan, but that's a good guess as to what it could be. how about the birthday party playing junkyard, that i'd pay to see!

― stingy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

If something comes up that sounds good, I have a much more difficult time saying NO.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

I was totally guessing about the coffee price. I usually get a grande skim vanilla latte, but also it is pretty rare that I go to Starbucks anyway. When I do, about 50% of the time I get suckered into buying a pastry. On top of that, you have to consider that I'm really bad with money, which includes never paying much attention to how much I'm spending.

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, Slint and D-Plan seem like the best bets. I've also heard rumors of Replacements and Public Enemy, but both of them are too big to play Pitchfork Fest, I think.

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

See, those two would tempt me.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

If Tortoise did TNT, I would go.

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

I are old. And I saw Slint before, so that was good enough for me. 2x not necessary.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of Kramer, reunited Galaxie 500 doing On Fire w/ Vandermark cameo on "Blue Thunder" and "Decomposing Trees".

― Eazy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

Wouldn't it fuck with people's heads in a good way if Liz Phair did Exile in Guyville?

― Eazy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of Vandermark:

In the 'very exciting' department, we're pleased to announce that the Daniel Kr4us documentary about KV, 'Musician', will soon see the light of day! Until that time, here are a few related links for you to enjoy:

-- A short description of the film, as well as info about Daniel..
-- A bit of background on Daniel, and his previous work in this series..
-- A brief clip from the movie!

Rest assured that we'll be updating you on this as news becomes available!

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

Galaxie 500 would be super! Slint is playing Don't Look Back in the UK this summer, so I kinda doubt they'd get them. Choose somebody different!

― stingy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

Hehe. That's old news up there. You gets the fresh scoop from me, promise.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

I *heart* Dismemberment Plan. But I'll be in bar study HELL so I will have no problem just saying NO to PFF this year. So it had better be miserably fucking hot.

I'm watching a show on the DIY network about book making and wow, that's a real pain in the ass.

― Jenny, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

Hahah.

― Laurel, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, ok. I do hope it gets released soon. Actually, I don't care if gets released if someone were to slip me a copy.

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

With facial hair, KV looks less like a jock and oddly Brad Pitt-esque:

http://www.kenvandermark.com/admin_tools/images/kenvandermarkbyzigakoritnik_1.jpg

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

is anybody watching the ncaa tournament online (like I am)?

― stingy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

I met his dogs recently and they are CYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTE.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

Not in any NCAA pool this year, so not watching.

Stingy, are you stingy like a bee or frugal-stingy?

― Eazy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

It would be funny if they were just walking around by themselves, minding their own business, and you were like "hey aren't those Ken Vandermark's dogs???"

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

PS copies will be slipped as soon as we know what's going on. At the very least there should be a couple of screenings in Chicago and -- at the very least -- a small release on the same distribution label that released BoW. I think. Cannot promise.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

stingy with the loot. it's a nickname that i got in 2001 and it just stuck, for better or worse

― stingy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

xp - hehe. They wear Powerhouse Sound t-shirts and have FME tattoos.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

I saw some of the tournament while out to lunch but didn't know what was going on.

(PS cool, Amanda. What's BoW? Is it by KV's dogs?)

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

I should stop talking about that now. It's not really my business and maybe the internets don't need to know what the plans are. Sorry.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

One of Dan's other movies.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

is anybody watching the ncaa tournament online (like I am)?

this is where the tv tuner card really comes in handy. i saw the bc/texas tech game but have been working since. also, this is the first year i have not filled out a bracket since 1982.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

Is Belle & Sebastian too big? They could do If You're Feeling Sinister.

Or what about I See a Darkness by Bonnie Prince Billy, which was PFM's #9 album of the 1990s?

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

i guess chicago is more of a pro sports town, but i'm from durham, nc, where college hoops is king. i'll be psyched to go to wrigley field though, i've never been to a game there.

― stingy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

At my old job, we did brackets (in fact, I think I was in charge for a couple of those years), but no one here seems to be interested.

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

this year was pretty hard to fill out a bracket, because all the best teams have had some bad losses. it's just more even now than ever before, with the big time programs losing guys to the nba and the smaller schools being able to field senior-laden teams. you can watch online at ncaasports.com, ti works fine. the only thing is they black out the game that's on your local channel, but you can watch the other 3.

― stingy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, whaddyaknow, Powerhouse Sound is finally coming out next week. I'll be buying it.

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

John: Belle and Sebastian has already done Sinister for Don't Look Back, and released it as a live album!

― kenan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

I wish I could be in London to see Sonic Youth play Daydream Nation and/or Slint play Spiderland.

― kenan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

wait, dismemberment plan? is this a rumor or for sure? eeeeeeeeeeee!

― horseshoe, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

I'd like to see the Mekons do a don't look back, but they probably aren't popular enough with the kids

― stingy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

It's a rumor, Hshoe.

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I don't think that matters. Lots of people would eat that up. Fear and Whiskey being the obvious choice.

― kenan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

Seriously, though, just imagining Daydream Nation live gives me a little tingle. That would be the fucking show of a lifetime.

― kenan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

Of all the ones we're kicking around, though, it's the one I'm hoping for most. The band puts on an incredible live show. It was cool to see Slint a couple years back, but they're not that exciting to watch.

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

Seriously, though, just imagining Daydream Nation live gives me a little tingle. That would be the fucking show of a lifetime.

Yeah, I don't think it would happen here, but that would be so so awesome. I'm still bummed I couldn't get into that Double Door show last summer. I haven't seen them since 2004.

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

PR blitz for all involved: Siamese Dream.

― Eazy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

No, it's happening in London in August, I think?

here

― kenan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

I left work ear-ly
And went to Hot-Doug's
Where I got this-thing:

Goji Berry Pheasant Sausage with Jerk Mayonnaise and Cheese-Stuffed Sweet Peppers

And it was AWES-OME

(song to be sung to the tune of "We goin' Sizzler" from White Men Can't Jump)

Now I'm going to my eye doc.

― dan m, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

oh dan that sounds amazing. I've kind of been wanting to go to hot doug's every day this week.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

(song to be sung to the tune of "We goin' Sizzler" from White Men Can't Jump)

!!! i was totally already doing it before i got to this line!!!

my eyes must have scanned it and put it in my subconscious.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

YSI?

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

Did you Chicagoans have free coffee day at Starbucks today? We did in STL.

― mike a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Can anyone recommend a good place to get alterations done? On a rather important piece of clothing? Just wonderin'.

i'M still catching up, but the guy at Lord and Taylor recommended a place on Oak Street. Now, I am wary, considering that it's Oak street, but he said they could take in the back of my coat for $15 and hem the pants for about $10, and if they weren't too busy, they could do it same day. It's called Oak St. Tailors, I think.

― Jesse, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

I think Nick said it was free starbucks day today, but only between 10 and 11:30 or something.

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

haha so i take it thats a 'no' on egyptian lover

― deej, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

Part of a Thirsty Saturday, maybe?

― Eazy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

I plan on drinking all day Saturday when I'm not seeing that Mira Nair movie with my dad. I don't care where I do this.

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

what Mira Nair movie? why do I never know what movies are out?

― horseshoe, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

oh, the movieization of the jhumpa lahiri novel, right? my sister mentioned that to me the other day.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah:I have decided on a tailor. I am going Here. Broadway Tailors at 2439 N. Broadway. They got the best overall reviews on Yelp, and the reviews claim the prices are good.

― Jesse, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

Nick and I will probably see Zodiac sometime this weekend because of the Jake G. & Mark R. Double Hot XTREME action. Ooh.. Robert Downey too? Menage??

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

is mark ruffalo in that movie? i guess i have to see it, huh?

― horseshoe, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks, Jesse!

― KitCat, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Mark Ruffalo and Jake Gyllenhaal.

― Jesse, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

it's been a while since I've seen a hot boy movie, actually.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

oh, the movieization of the jhumpa lahiri novel, right? my sister mentioned that to me the other day.

Yeah. I hadn't heard about it at all, but my guess is that he'd rather see that than The Host or Zodiac. I think he tried to get me to see Deepa Mehta's Water last year, or maybe he just told me about it at length.

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

I took my dry cleaning to Broadway Cleaners one time. I didn't like them, at least for dry cleaning. Plus they didn't take my card.

― Jeff, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

aw your dad is a better indian than I am. i've not seen any of the deepa mehta movies.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

Jeff and Jenny, you know who's an AMAZING drycleaner's in your neighborhood? K.M. Cleaners, on Broadway between Melrose and Belmont. so much so that I still take my stuff there even though it's annoying to get there from logan square.

they might be good at alterations, too, I've never tried.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

Ha, my dad even traveled to India for a couple weeks in 2005!

I saw Fire when I lived in the UK, but I was mostly interested in it for the queer content.

― jaymc, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

I need someone nearby to replace a zipper on a jacket.

― kenan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't like them, at least for dry cleaning.

Why not?

I read on Yelp that they only take cash.

― Jesse, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

I'm looking forward to this movie...it's by an American dude but filmed in India, and one of my buddies did the soundtrack.

― Jordan, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, I'm getting them confused with the one on the corner of Addison and Broadway, I didn't like them. I do like Broadway Cleaners, I use them all the time. And the DO take cards, if you're over $10.

― Jeff, Thursday, 15 March 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

I made a remix of one of the CHILX ALL-STAR BAND songs. I hope you enjoy it. It's noizey.

― n/a, Thursday, 15 March 2007 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

Beautiful. It's got "Blooper!" written all over it.

― Eazy, Thursday, 15 March 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

I do like Broadway Cleaners, I use them all the time. And the DO take cards, if you're over I do like Broadway Cleaners, I use them all the time. And the DO take cards, if you're over $10.
0.

I went to Broadway Cleaners across from Treasure Island, next door to Elan, the clothing resale store. They do not take cards.

I dropped off jeans for hemming, slacks for lengthening, and my suit for altering (sleeves, pants hems, taking in the jacket a bit). It will all cost me $58 including tax. The non-suit hems were $8.50 each. So I guess the suit was $47, including tax.

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 01:00 (eighteen years ago)

New Town Cleaners! That's the one I go to.

― Jeff, Friday, 16 March 2007 01:11 (eighteen years ago)

There are a lot of dry cleaners on this stretch. 29 within a 1/2 mile radius.

― Jeff, Friday, 16 March 2007 01:13 (eighteen years ago)

And I will not go to one that doesn't take a card.

― Jeff, Friday, 16 March 2007 01:39 (eighteen years ago)

There are a lot of dry cleaners on this stretch. 29 within a 1/2 mile radius.

I was noticing today how extremely many there are. It's nutty.

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 01:41 (eighteen years ago)

I got my transcripts looked at at DePaul today. I'm within about 20 (quarter-) hours--4 classes--of a BA. Unfortunately, that will have to be 3 semesters since they can't be taken simultaneously. So :) and :(

Upon review of my transcripts I discovered that I have 203 credit hours under my belt. And no BA.

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 01:52 (eighteen years ago)

I like the new Patrick Wolf.

― Jeff, Friday, 16 March 2007 02:21 (eighteen years ago)

Cool

― Jeff, Friday, 16 March 2007 02:45 (eighteen years ago)

Text from Courtney at 6 AM

"I grabbed somebody's butt last night for $200."

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:38 (eighteen years ago)

I feel like all I ever post about on here anymore is music that I've downloaded, but I've been listening to the new Blonde Redhead for a few weeks and it's fantastic. The sound is similar to "Misery is a Butterfly" but the songs are stronger. I recommend it.

― n/a, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:45 (eighteen years ago)

Also, Field Music are playing at the EB on Tuesday, opening for Menomena. I don't really get all the hype around Menomena, but I might go just to see Field Music.

― n/a, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:49 (eighteen years ago)

Conversations about music:me::conversations about weather:Jeff

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:56 (eighteen years ago)

Conversations about music:Jesse::conversations about funny text messages:me

― n/a, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:02 (eighteen years ago)

JUST KIDDING

― n/a, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:13 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm prob going to see that Field Music show.

And I listened to the BR as well and thought it was OK, but I never heard Misery is a Butterfly to compare it to. Ultimately, I prob still like their earlier stuff better.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

That is surprising to me. I would have guessed you would like the more orchestrated stuff more. Anyways, I liked Misery is a Butterfly but didn't love it. 23 is better. I think it's their best album since Melody of Certain Damaged Lemons, which might still be their peak.

― n/a, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

I agree on both counts.

How is everyone today? I'm sending my Frenchie sister a copy of the Girl Talk album to spread the Good Word.

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

It's been a while since I listened to any Blonde Redhead, I should go dig those CDs out of my basement.

Somehow I've come down with a cold in my nose, and I'm not too excited about it.

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

Better than a cold up your butt.

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

But seriously, I'm sorry you don't feel well.

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

Christopher Robin had wheezles and sneezles, they bundled him into his bed.
They gave him what goes with a cold in the nose, and some more for a cold in the head.

― Laurel, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

I have sneezles and wheezles, too. :(

― Laurel, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

Hey guys...what if God was one of us?

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

HA!
He would have a cold in his nose?

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

Or She?

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

Courtney won't tell me what happened via email. I think she's become a prostitute.

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, that seems reasonable.

― Laurel, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

Back when my mom was SuperDuperExtremeMaximum New Agey, she would pray, "Dear Father-Mother God..."

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

I agree that Melody of Certain Damaged Lemons is prob their peak, but my two favorites after that are La Mia Vita Violenta and Fake Can Be Just as Good.

I like orchestration, but the stuff I heard from Misery is a Butterfly was just kind of lugubrious and "pretty" without being interesting. Meanwhile, I really love weird minor-key sleazy-European versions of Sonic Youth.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.dogma-movie.com/pics/alanis/images/alanis.jpg

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

No.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

You just made EZ's day, however.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

conversations about music:jesse::conversations about indie rock:me

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

BLOOPER

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

Morning brosephs and brosephinas.

I went to bed at about 6pm last night, and apart from a brief dalliance with consciousness at about 9:30 which did not take, I slept through the night.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

Blonde Redhead... check. You realize, some days I actually take notes on these threads. Lists of things to check out when I get home. Usually records.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

Oh damn that sounds good. I got home late from rehearsal, and when I finally arrived home SWEATY and COLD and fantasizing abt hot shower, I found my roommate had a) decided to prime the bathroom for painting but only got as far as removing every removeable object from the room, and b) somehow succeeded in COMPLETELY STOPPING UP THE TUB. I have no idea how. It worked fine yesterday morning. So there was only a sponge bath for me at 3am and I hope to god she's getting a plumber in today because I have a fever and I am in NO MOOD.

― Laurel, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

Ok, this coffee is a horror. It's Folger's 1/2 Caff. There are so many things wrong with that. If you take lightly burned leaves and stems and filter water through it, it ain't tasty, but it's got a hell of a kick. If you take out the kick, WHAT ARE YOU DRINKING IT FOR? "I think I'll have a big piping hot cup of butt juice this morning. Mmm-mmmm."

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

Laurel's problems are admittedly much worse than mine.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

Pls to recommend me film festival movies, because I am going this year goddamnit.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

Nice. Kr and I watched Infernal Affairs last night. It's a good, taut thriller, but I have to say I prefer The Departed. Maybe it's just because I saw it first, and I realize there's something to be said for making the story more economical (read: an hour shorter), but what The Departed does in that extra hour is just pure entertainment: specifically, Nicholson, Baldwin, and Wahlberg hamming it up. Also, it was interesting to learn that the shrink in Internal Affairs was not the same woman as Tony Leung's love interest; screenwriter William Monahan's choice to combine these two characters was wise, I think, since it complicates all the entanglements.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

AIR GUITAR NATION

I felt the same way. IF may be a better movie, but Departed has joeks and I'm more likely to see it again.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

Mommies are people, people with children
When mommies were little, they used to be girls
Like some of you, but then they grew
And now mommies are women, women with children
Busy with children, and things that they do
There are a lot of things a lot of mommies can do

Some mommies are ranchers, or poetry makers
Or doctors or teachers, or cleaners or bakers
Some mommies drive taxis, or sing on TV
Yeah, mommies can be almost anything they want to be

Well, they can't be grandfathers, or daddies

Daddies are people, people with children
When daddies were little, they used to be boys
Like some of you, but then they grew
And now daddies are men, men with children
Busy with children, and things that they do
There are a lot of things a lot of daddies can do

Some daddies are writers, or grocery sellers
Or painters or welders, or funny-joke tellers
Some daddies play cello, or sail on the sea
Yeah, daddies can be almost anything they want to be

They can't be grandmas or mommies

Parents are people - Parents are people
People with children - People with children
When parents were little, they used to be kids
Like all of you, but then they grew
And now parents are grown-ups - Parents are grown-ups
Grown-ups with children - Grown-ups with children
Busy with children, and things that they do
There are a lot of things a lot of mommies
And a lot of daddies, and a lot of parents can do

― n/a, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

You guys just like The Departed better because you don't have to read subtitles. Lazy Americans.

― n/a, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure slocki loved this.

---

Manufactured Landscapes
[MANUF]
(Canada, 2006, 90 mins)

Thursday, April 12th 8:30pm
Orpheum Main Theatre
$7.00
Internationally acclaimed for his large-scale photographs of “manufactured landscapes”—quarries, recycling yards, factories, mines and dams—Burtynsky creates stunningly beautiful art from civilization’s materials and debris.[/i]

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

Also, a bunch of people on the Pan's Labyrinth kept talking about this film as a favorable comparison:

----

The Spirit of the Beehive
[SPIRI]
(Spain, 1973, 98 mins)
Restorations and Revivals
Thursday, April 12th 7:00pm
Cinematheque (4070 Vilas Hall)
$7.00
One of the most visually arresting movies ever made, The Spirit of the Beehive is the spellbinding portrait of a young girl’s haunted inner life. Set in the wake of Spain’s devastating civil war, Ana and Isabel, two lovely young sisters, travel to a makeshift theater in a small Castilian village to see James Whale’s Frankenstein.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

...on the Pan's Labyrinth thread

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

Cool, thanks. So far I'm interested in:

Finishing the Game (fictional movie about making Game of Death after Bruce Lee died)
Diggers (Paul Rudd)
Exiled (since we're talking about Asian gangster movies)

And maybe the Zidane movie where the cameras are just on him for a whole soccer match.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

That sounds like it would make me dizzy.

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

friends in the reader today, see pictures of their apartment.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

Cool

― n/a, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

picture, singular, on that page.

http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/sharpdarts/070316/sd070316_1.jpg

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I read that article yesterday at lunch, and I was going to mention it but forgot.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

(For the first time I accidentally hit the Clear button after typing that. I recovered with a quick ctrl-Z, but I agree with Kenan -- wtf is the point of a Clear button??)

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

"Hey, it's a standard HTML function, why not use it?"

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

I want to be in a band with my wife.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

― n/a, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

I wand to be in my wife with a band.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

I've seen the Zidane movie, it's pretty cool. Mogwai did the soundtrack.

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

I vant to suck your blood.

― n/a, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

Guys, I'm sick, why did I come to work? One of my coworkers is out, probably with the same thing, so that means I'm pretty much screwed as far as leaving early. :((((

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

I wand to be in my wife with a band.

Nasty.

My new band has our first rehearsal and our first gig tomorrow.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

I was amused at the image I got of setting up a drum set in my wife's vagina. Plugging in amps. Damnit, there's not enough outlets in here!

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

Gross.

That's a great article! I didn't know she was preggers.

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

One of my college roommates sent out a mass e-mail yesterday that said, "Hey, I know I haven't talked to some of you in a while, but Sarah" -- his wife -- "and I just started a BLOG." And I was like, that's kind of weird to have a joint blog, so I clicked on the link and found out that it was a blog about their forthcoming BABY, which I didn't even know about it. Funny that he didn't just mention the baby in the e-mail.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

Reading a friend's baby blog = fun for about three minutes, then never again.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

Bloggin Bout Babies.

One thing I recently learned on Indiebride is the acronym TTC, which means Trying to Conceive. You down with TTC? Yeah you know me! (not me though, just kidding)

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

I actually like pictures of friends' babies. Babies are cute when you can see the resemblance to the parents and etc. But The I'm Pregnant And Excited And Miserable stories may as well be copied and pasted from some else's baby blog.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

TTC. That's funny.

I think when you finally do conceive, you can start referring to yourself as a "talented creative professional."

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

TTC? OMG TMI, FYI!!!

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

Toronto Transit Commission

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

TTC

^Do not miss.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

I prefer FWD = fucking without discretion

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:54 (eighteen years ago)

Bravo for that one, bravo!

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

So does your mom.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, duh. Nick pointed out that the preggers lady is not Lisa. DUH. Oh well.

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I was a little worried about non-drinking, non-smoking, clean-living Lisa coming out here in a couple of weeks! PHEW

― Laurel, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

I had double DUHs in that sentence.

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I want to see that Hal Hartley movie too.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I was a little worried about non-drinking, non-smoking, clean-living Lisa coming out here in a couple of weeks! PHEW

It's ironic because it's not ironic.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

was the rest of chilx raptured?

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

Come on ppl. It's Friday. You can dick around on the internet. It's ok.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

I just finished one deadline and now my new team has one on Monday night, and the hell if I'm coming in on the weekend.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

my boss just left to take a half day. i guess i'm in charge now?

all this means is that we will be listening to the pogues for a little while. Nothing else changes.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

Being sick and trying to cover for another person after you missed a few hours of work the day before kind of sucks, you know?!?

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

sigh

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

There there, Dan.

http://www.hoosierhawk.com/my-images/kitty_hug.jpg

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

thx

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

Let it be known that I'm trying to watch all of the Battlenerd Geektacular season 3 episodes by next weekend, so that I can watch the finale on the air. I'm on ep 7 so far.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I was a little worried about non-drinking, non-smoking, clean-living Lisa coming out here in a couple of weeks! PHEW

as far as anyone knows she doesn't smoke. she occasionally bums one from me but i told her i won't be an enabler. unrelated, they also get name checked in the latest issue of time out chicago.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:31 (eighteen years ago)

I'm around. Just hungover and with a lot of work to do. Currently resenting having to fill out my second extern report with questions about plans and strategies to use my externship to enhance my lawyering skills. I don't fucking know, Field Placement Program. Leave me alone. My head hurts.

― Jenny, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

Why is the new answers page all red?

― Jenny, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

I saw that!

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

xpost to Kevin.

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

until last night i'd always thought my thursday night bartender was kind of cute (not just because of the free drinks, i thought she was cute before that) but i was apparently mistaken because she is totally fucking hot. as in HOTT. i can't believe how unobservant i am sometimes.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

Is that the woman I met the night we went to the HC with you? If so, yes, you are one unobservant fellow.

― Jenny, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

yes that would be her. but jenny it was like that times a million.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

the new answers page is buggy and does something to IE6 which it should try to avoid doing.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

I think I even told you that she was HOTT when I met her. So you're not only unobservant with your eyeballs, you don't listen so good either.

― Jenny, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

her douchebag ex-boyfriend was dj'ing there last night and gave me the hairy eyeball all night long. i'm pretty sure he saw us leave the bottle together after that do make say think show. he's a tool but a good dj, a little heavy on the indie rock for me but overall i liked probably 90% of what he played.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

i have never heard of the hairy eyeball. wouldn't that impede your vision?

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

GUYS DAYDREAM NATION AT PITCHFORK FEST CONFIRMED

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

Uh Kevin I saw her myspace page and I thought maybe there was some pre-existing reason you hadn't gone for that. Apparently the reason is that you need stronger corrective lenses...?

― Laurel, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

Still not enough to get me to go.

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

"that" -- always like to hear the ladies get a little bro-ish

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

ok that makes me insanely happy.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

I was going to go, anyway, but my favorite band ever playing one of their best albums in its entirety is pretty much a no-brainer.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going.

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

I don't even bother thinking about hot bartenders and servers, they must get hit on alllll the time.

Uh Kevin I saw her myspace page

Link?

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i lost track of sonic youth as a band sometime in the last ten years or so, but that's one of my favorite albums ever, forreals.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

I'm holding out for Fugazi playing Repeater. Then I will be front row, center.

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

(+ 3 songs because "Break-In" rules)

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

Even after all these years, I still haven't gotten around to really listening to Sonic Youth. At one time I had half of Murray Street on mp3 and I liked that (audiogalaxy days?!).

If someone made me a Sonic Youth mix, well, that would be pretty sweet.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

fuck, after last summer i told myself i was never going to one of those big outdoor shows again. another broken promise to myself.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

Awwww man! I am hating law school even more now! I've seen Sonic Youth before but still. Still! Now I can't even hope it's going to be miserably hot because people I like are going and that would be just mean. Frack.

― Jenny, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

Frack

nerd

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

I don't even bother thinking about hot bartenders and servers, they must get hit on alllll the time.

she has a really sharp, quick wit and i almost feel sorry for dudes who hit on her because she has no problem saying mean, funny things to dudes who should have mean, funny things said to and about them.

Uh Kevin I saw her myspace page

Link?

navigate to my page and she's one of my "top friends". i'm guessing she would be number 8 or number 12, whichever one isn't a band.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

If someone made me a Sonic Youth mix, well, that would be pretty sweet.

I will do so. I have all the major full-lengths except Confusion is Sex, Bad Moon Rising, and NYC Ghosts + Flowers, and the first two are taken care of by Screaming Fields of Sonic Love, which is a compilation of their pre-Geffen years.

First I have to get around to making that post-rock mix for Dan, though.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

Awesome.

First I have to get around to making that post-rock mix for Dan, though.

I wouldn't hate you if you sent me that one too.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

What time do the friday activities begin at PFMF?

― Jeff, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

I love Alanis Morrissette. I hear she broke off her engagement.

I'm not too disappointed that she isn't playing Pitchfork Fest, because I already saw her do the revamped version of Jagged Little Pill at the Auditorium Theater.

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

It might be time for a concert-length reexamination of Supposed Former Infatuation Junkie, however.

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

N/M, I see 7pm now.

― Jeff, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

jaymc, i would also like your post-rock mix, and hell, why not the sonic youth, too? YSI?

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

i just stopped by pitchfork to see who was playing friday, saw it was SY, then headed here immediately. man, i picked a great time to move to chicago! i figured this friday part was going to be at an indoor venue, but now i see it's outside where the rest of the festival is. how big is this place anyway, like the size of your run of the mill clear channel amphitheater? and to think there are 2 other bands playing too! one thing i realized yesterday is i'm supposed to go to a wedding here in NC on july 14, so i was thinking maybe i'd have to miss this, but now that it's SY playing, i figure i should just try and fly back early saturday morning. got some planning to do!

― stingy, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

Is it not in Union Park again?

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

where is it going to be? the pavillion at millenium park? i thought they'd just put up a stage in grant park or something. grant park can hold multiple 10's of thousands. the pavillion.... i dunno actually. here's a picture, it's the latticed thing:

http://www.millenniumpark.org/images/artarch_intro.jpg

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

One of the bartenders at work just got hired at L30 Burn377 as a project director for the Phil. Morr|ss account, making $55K. She has only ever been in food service, and she got it because the president of that dept. is a regular at the bar. She hired her today while sitting at the bar. The bartender has never even set foot in their offices.

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

oh yeah, union park makes sense as that's where the pf fests have been in the past. i was thinking this was a lollapaloser thing for some reason.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

Pf0rk says Union Park again.

In that case, no ampitheatre. It's a medium-sized city park.

Google Maps

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

thanks for ruining my weekend jesse.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

yeah it says union park on the site. i've only been to chicago once, and i did visit millenium and grant park, but don't know union park

― stingy, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

union park will be good, it didn't seem that difficult to sneak in there last year.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

I liked Union Park. It's a straight shot home from there for me.

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

i jumped the fence at the unc football stadium a few years ago to see springsteen. that was cool

― stingy, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

It's not exactly one of the most well-known in the system. Not to say it's not nice, just not high-profile. The bands were set up across a couple of baseball fields last year, and the vendors on tennis courts and the road that cuts through the park. The section to the south had some vendors too.

The thing that turns me off about it the most is that it was so much more crowded last year than the first one, and I can't see how it won't be more so this year. There was little shady space before, now it will only be worse, and I am getting old and cranky. At least now, the very thought of waiting in line for water or to pee just makes me cringe.

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

At least the Friday shows start at 7pm, so it won't be blazing hot.

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

Gah. I wanted to work for LB before, but now hearing what I've heard, it hurts to know that all this is going on 27 floors above me: no dress code; "energy room" full of beer, wine, soda, snacks; "igloos" in the work room where you can huddle with your laptop and work snuggled in blankets and pillows; plus 3 wks vacation to start and other great benefits.

They've had a hiring freeze for 18 mos. and this girl is the first person they've hired since then. She's damn lucky.

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

Especially when you consider that she is on the verge of being fired from the restaurant.

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

That doesn't happen in real life, Jesse.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

Plus there is this prostitute who hangs out at the bar--just the nicest girl you could meet--and she got whisked away to Hollywood....

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

Actually that sounds pretty much like my roomie's company, except subtract the vacation and igloos and add an air hockey table.

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

...wish the U had air hockey. Or foosball. Then I'd get even less done.

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

You can probably get some idea of what the park looks like from just searching Flickr for pitchforkmusicfestival or related keywords.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

I want relaxation rooms with guitars and drums ala Google.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

I want a calamari fritti room.

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

I visited a PR firm once where they had a room that had the same kind of wood as a sauna, but with carpet on the benches and a big dry erase board on one wall. Brainstorming room.

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

I want a nap, and a shoulder to take it on.

― Laurel, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

2x! I think I'm jetting soon.

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

Aw. I've still got a second-hand bra, if you want that.

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

I want a nude co-ed sauna.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

No, that's not true. I don't want to see these people naked. Well, not most of them.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

I work at the sister restaurant tonight. I picked up a shift so as to go ahead and kill myself with the working.

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

I had a little accident at work today. I had a sugary breakfast and had a really hard blood sugar dip which makes me really weak and shakey and nauseated. As this was in progress, I was carrying a glass of red wine on a tray and I thought I saw a lipstick stain. I held the tray up to the light to get a better look, and then lost control, spilling the entire glass on top of my head and all over my white shirt.

I immediately thought, "They're all gonna laugh at me!"

Then I blew up the building with my mind.

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

i'm actually feeling pretty good today, put your troubles on my chicago for i am strong!

i could use a bag of chips though.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

I want a nude co-ed sauna.

Come to the U.P. sometime

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

i know someone who works at google, and i visited him last year and go to check it out. they have a huge number of different eateries, all of them free. they have coolers with nice juices, also free, in all the buildings. and electric scooters to zip around the campus. pretty freakin' swank

― stingy, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

on my back chicago! put your troubles on my back!!

i think i'm going back to HC tonight to see if last night was an anomaly.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

dude, you do not want my troubles.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeh, the Ph|l M0rr|ss group got razor scooters.

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

My boss told me that overtime on this project is not allowed, so I'm leaving at like 4:45 today. If anyone's interested in getting a drink with me at Huettenbar in Lincoln Square between, I dunno, 5:30 and 7, feel free to swing by.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

To scoot around the corridors.

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

put 'em on my back kenan FOR I AM STRONG.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

also note, i will probably give you your troubles back tomorrow but for now i'm feeling pretty good about things.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

John, I've got some work here (new work editing Wall Street conference-call transcripts) or I'd head up. May put some pre-FFs dinner together though, maybe Thai on Roscoe.

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i don't have that many troubles, to tell you the truth. Life is ok, I like my job, I got a little cash in my pocket, all that stuff. The only problem, really, is that I'M TOTALLY INSANE AND FILLED WITH HATE about half the time. I may never know why.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

i'm actually feeling pretty good today, put your troubles on my chicago for i am strong!

I just thought you were using chicago as a substitute for Big Shoulders.

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

THAT WORKS TOO!!!

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

Kenan, you really sound like you need a sauna, broheem.

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

And that sounds totally creepy. Salright, I sauna with my best friends in the world, and that's the way it should be.

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

Have you guys done the Ukranian baths on Division? I haven't but have heard great things.

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

I think Kr's ex does the Turkish bath once a month.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

I prefer "broseph."

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

no but my boss told me stories of meeting mobsters in the turkish baths on north ave back in the 70s. i guess the steam fucked with the recording technology of the day.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

And if a guy's wearing nothing but a terrycloth towel, he's not wired.

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

They could hold them at Steamworks too, then.

― Jesse, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

Also, mobsters love to look at each other's man boobs. The Godfather and The Sopranos don't give you the whole story. Mobsters are totally gay for man boobs.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of which, what are some good movies about lonely men spying and studying/obsessing about the resulting data, looking for clues? Like The Conversation or The Lives of Others or Blow-Up, I'm thinking. Are there others?

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

Blow Out, with John Travolta.

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

Oh right, is that DePalma's homage to Antonioni?

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

Zodiac actually fits your description, too.

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

Is it possible that the only Brian DePalma films I've seen is ... Carrie?

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

If so, that would be rather fortunate.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

According to IMDB, yes it is. Also, I don't think I'd ever seen a photo of him before. I just realized that I've been mentally picturing him as looking like Brian Dennehy.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

John, check out a 70's Gene Hackman movie called The Conversation, I have it on my queue and it sounds exactly like what you're describing.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

I always picture him looking like a hack who hasn't made a good movie for 25 years.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

I recorded The Conversation off TCM last month during their run of Oscar movies. Haven't watched it yet though

― stingy, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan -- read carefully.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan - you can download most of the Sonic Youth albums here.

― n/a, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

The Conversation is pretty odd movie. It's good though.

― n/a, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

I'm dumb. DON'T WORRY, I WILL NEVER POST HERE AGAIN, FUCK YOU GUYS.

/jesse

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

Nick - holy crap. Thanks.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

Body Double (also DePalma) is about an obsessed guy with a telescope.

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

so, anybody got a recommendation on where to move that's close enough to drive to univ of chicago but also still be able to go to the cool stuff in the central/north areas? i know i've discussed this before, but back then it was still hypothetical. we've heard south loop is the best for this, and that's where my other UC resident friend lives. any good apartment websites or suggestions?

― stingy, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

Body Double (also DePalma) is about an obsessed guy with a telescope.

Is this his Rear Window or his Vertigo?

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

The website for the Chicago Reader sorts apartments by price and location. You're pretty much looking at either Hyde Park or the South Loop/West Loop/Pilsen. Bridgeport can still be very cheap but would be isolated without a car.

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

south loop sounds good for your purposes.

can't help you with the apartment websites though. i usually rely on craigslist and walking around the 'hood i want to live in.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

Very much his Rear Window, J. An Indian with a chainsaw starts stalking the woman he's spying on.

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

There's a funny scene on the set of an x-rated movie set to "Relax" by Frankie Goes To Hollywood.

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

If I lived in the South Loop I wouldn't drive to UC. I would take one of the express buses or the Metra... but we've been through this already.

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

stingy, Is there any way you could come up for a few days to visit places? You could get a much better feel for different neighborhoods and line up a whole bunch of apartment viewings in a row.

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

yeah we might have to do just that (come up and visit). when it comes to going to UC, i think the thing is that residents work all these wack hours, so even if there are buses and such, it's much better to have your own car. but then i realize paying for parking at your place stinks too.

― stingy, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

but then i realize paying for parking at your place stinks too.

?? You have to pay something like $100 for a city sticker every year. (I don't know the exact figure, since my car is technically still in my mom's name and thus has a Willow Springs ticker in the windshield. I could potentially get a ticket for this, but I've been here for seven years, and no one's looked askance at it.) But unless you're super-concerned about the safety of your car and want to use a garage somewhere, you don't have to pay for parking. Most people just park on the street.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

Oh really, I didn't know that. I figured that people park in garages that are in their apartment buildings. At least this was the case for my girlfriend's older brother, who lived in Lakeview, I think.

― stingy, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

that's a swanky setup, garage in the building and all.

there are signs all over - "Parking space for rent, $125/mo." Stuff like that. But I don't know anyone who would do such a thing. Nobody I know really loves their car that much.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I only know of one person who uses a garage, and she lives in a condo. I don't know what she pays for it.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, guys. I have 30 minutes left, but I'm feeling that trhilling weekend sensation, so I'm going to start closing everything down and pretend that means I get to leave sooner.

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

TRHILLING!

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

one of our condo buildings had a promotion recently: Free Parking space with the purchase of a 3-bedroom condo! A $48,000 value! And I was like, phew, you're kidding.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

Our spaces generally go for $80,000.

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

By that I mean my company's spaces. Nick and I have a free space behind our apartment, but it isn't covered or anything.

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

It's nutty. That's a house!

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

Also, is it ok for me to hate superrich people today? I'm in a great mood, just a little hateful. :-D

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

Aside: What does the acronym SDER stand for?

― KitCat, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

It's the best part of not living in a big city, plentiful parking as far as the eye can see.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

Dunno, Sarah.

Parking isn't horrible in my neighborhood, but if I'm trying to park any time after 8 or 9 at night, I definitely have to circle around several blocks to find a spot. At Kr's old apartment, there were always spaces right in front of her building, but that's because there weren't any large multi-unit complexes on the block, just single-family houses and three-flats.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

I know this doesn't apply to Stingy, but I think the best part of living in a city is not needing a car and so being able to ignore the fact that there's no parking in my neighborhood.

But yeah, your parking situation is going to depend a lot on your living situation. Some places have attached garages, some have spots like N&S's place, other times there's just street parking in your neighborhood. If the latter, you might have to purchase a neighborhood sticker along with your city sticker but you don't have to purchase either if you avoid getting in state tags. We had NC tags on our car for at least a year, and for about eight of those months, the NC tags were expired. Never had any problems. Note: That is not legal advice.

The problem with street parking is that one, your car will get beat to shit. Obviously this only matters if you care about your car, but even if you don't, it's still kind of jarring to find your side mirror sheered off or your bumper cracked down the middle and dangling half off your car. Two, you might have a hard time parking near your apartment. In our old place, on off hours, we could almost always get a spot right in front or at least within a block of our crib. Late weekend nights could get drastic sometimes, though, and we'd have to park pretty far away. That could be a concern for your SO if she is going to be coming back from UC late and tired and then have to drive and drive to find a place to park and then walk a half mile to your apartment.

Oh and if you end up in a street parking situation, be sure to have a way to communicate to each other (and yourselves) where you parked the car. It sucks to lose your vehicle.

― Jenny, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

Stingy, if you pull up the earlier threads where we were giving advice, there is lots of detail there about the South Loop vs. other neighborhoods.

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

More than once I walked around a four block radius of our old place hitting the panic button on the keyless entry thing to find the car.

― Jenny, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

best part of living in a city is not needing a car

This does not apply to drummers.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

anything going on tonight chicago? anyone want to catch beers later?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

What, you don't just take the bus while wearing your bass drum?

― Jenny, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

Obviously that post was to Kevin.

― Jenny, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

I got shitfaced at the mentors reception thing last night and then went out for more beers and I feel craaaaaapy I've got to go to Tulsa tomorrow morning so I don't think I'm going to do anything tonight.

― Jenny, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

and that was an xpost to Jordan

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin, I sorta want to do something but I'm still feeling rather crappy. What did you have in mind?

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

Actually I've taken the subway with the bass drum, but for a kit it's hopeless.

Rushed unloading while the meter runs on a cab (and inevitably leaving some little bit of gear in the cab) is almost worse.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin, I think the FFs are at the Beat Kitchen tonight. I'm pre-drinking at Huettenbar, then having dinner at Cafe Selmarie, not sure what I'm up to later.

Unfortunately, what Jenny said is true about your car getting beat up. With this car, it's just a lot of bumper-scratching from parallel parking, but I had a car a couple years ago that did have part of the bumper knocked off by a garbage truck making a sharp turn out of the alley next to which my car was parked.

― jaymc, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

i don't know, maybe heading uptown, maybe not. i probably shouldn't go out but i know i won't feel like staying home either.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

hey, FF's at beat kitchen? what time? who else? i guess that's what the bk's web site is for?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

dan, i think i'm heading to the beat kitchen then maybe going to HC. i'd say i'm about 75% firm on this. i need to do laundry this weekend and should really do it tonight so i can have clean towels so i'll see how i feel when i get back from the laundromat.

i'm changing my mind, i'm like 95% that this is what i'm doing. i'm reserving the right to not go to uptown however.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

OK dude. I'm 68% sure you'll change your mind at least twice more, but that's cool. :D Might see you (and others, I assume) at Beat Kitchen if I feel any better.

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/23965909_0156ba3e38.jpg

This is what happens to your car when you park it on the street.

― Jenny, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

The guy in the pic is leaving a note. We thought it would be funny to replace it with a different note that said, "Nice door, asshole."

― Jenny, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

A friend and I walked by a disastrously wrecked parked car at the same moment the owner was discovering it. The driver's side door was crumpled in and it had streaks of paint all down one side of it that did not originate from the same car. There was a note on the windshield. (Hey, at least the guy left a note.) Anyway there was much cursing, and, man, you just GOTTA feel bad for that dude. That SUCKS.

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny, had the man in that picture just run into the car with a giant can opener?

― kenan, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, at this point I'm just waiting for my co-workers to leave so that I can leave, since I got here well after them this morning.

You're all in bars already, aren't you.

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

Not me, but I kinda wish I was.

― dan m, Friday, 16 March 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

Another Cococ0ma review at Dusted

― Jordan, Friday, 16 March 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

I'm working on editing a transcription of a conference call by a prominent retailer we all know from the mall. Will be finished in a few hours, then to the BK. Maybe something before if I get done in time. Me hungry.

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 23:14 (eighteen years ago)

Brighton MA is at the D-Door, but the BK is two blocks away and it's the FFs. What time are you guys on?

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 23:16 (eighteen years ago)

Ooh, ooh, I thought there was a band The Bl1sters playing tonight, but at BK it's actually the Bl1ssters, which is J. Tweedy's kid's band. Very fun kids. So Tweed may see the FFs.

― Eazy, Friday, 16 March 2007 23:57 (eighteen years ago)

OK, so it's not the Tweedy kids. Some other band.

― Eazy, Saturday, 17 March 2007 01:57 (eighteen years ago)

NICE DOOR, ASSHOLE!!!!

― Jesse, Saturday, 17 March 2007 04:06 (eighteen years ago)

The guy in the pic is leaving a note. We thought it would be funny to replace it with a different note that said, "Nice door, asshole."

Oh....I missed that on the initial scan....

I'M NEVER POSTING HERE AGAIN, FUCK YOU ALL!!

― Jesse, Saturday, 17 March 2007 04:12 (eighteen years ago)

My work. It's being watched over by the angel of death! Since mid-December these are the deaths:

-my dad (12/06)
-server's grandfather (12/06)
-server's grandmother (12/07)
-server's close friend (1/07)
-busser's unborn baby miscarried (2/07)
-server's father has cancer, 1 month to live (3/07)

Really, WTF.

― Jesse, Saturday, 17 March 2007 04:17 (eighteen years ago)

They always say, these things come in sextets....

― Jesse, Saturday, 17 March 2007 04:18 (eighteen years ago)

Shortly after the first door, we saw this one too:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/18/23965912_d4623cf234_o.jpg

― Jesse, Saturday, 17 March 2007 05:03 (eighteen years ago)

People Die: Film @ 1:43 AM

― dan m, Saturday, 17 March 2007 06:43 (eighteen years ago)

Dan: BEEF CARPACCIO
CAPERS
TRUFFLE OIL
SOME KIND OF CHEESE
MMMM
EAT THAT SHIT UP
1:57 AM on Saturday

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Tonight my bar crush was a guy at T's who my friends thought was either a pale Puerto Rican or black Irish. He had tattoos on his neck.
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I think this car looks like me

http://www.dodgeforum.com/models/magnum/images/2005-Dodge-Magnum-2.jpg

Ask me to do my impersonation of it.
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I bought a pinot grigio that was $10 a bottle at the little food store on Clark. Normally I will spend maybe $6 or $7 on "nightcap" PG since I know I can chill the shit out of it and it will taste like water. I was taken with the label and the price, and I was fooled.

This shit is so bad that I put ice in it and I expect I'll be using the rest for cooking.

The description on the back reads

Bocce wines reflect Cesare Mondavi's involvement in California wines. The label [featuring a mustachioed man apparently aggressively assailing enormous foregrounded white grapes with bacce balls] is a close replica of the one used on wooden grape crates shipped from CA to Italian immigrant home-winemakers who could not be without wine on their tables during Prohibition.

You know, Georgia Moon's bottle (Mason jar) is also reminiscent of Prohibition-era distilling, but you don't see that being touted as a draw for a finer product.

― Jesse, Saturday, 17 March 2007 07:21 (eighteen years ago)

http://home.nc.rr.com/bobbyjones/triplet.gif

― Jesse, Saturday, 17 March 2007 07:30 (eighteen years ago)

http://giardini.sm/pics/animalie/witkin_Cupid_and_centaur.jpg

― Jesse, Saturday, 17 March 2007 07:35 (eighteen years ago)

I'm flying NWA airlines to Tulsa.

― Jenny, Saturday, 17 March 2007 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

It's a hangovery kind of day.

― n/a, Saturday, 17 March 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

Bolla is a tasting and cheap corner-market Pinot Grigio.

Last night (when I was all mellowed out after a long nap - sorry FFs, but I'm glad my posse made it) I was checking on the bottles in my closet and found one of them had leaked - a 1993 Trimbach Cuvée des Seigneurs de Ribeaupierre, an Alsatian gewurtztraminier. (Found it on sale at Binny's a few years ago for maybe $8.99.)

Decided to open it, figuring it hadn't made it through the 100-degree days in my closet last summer. Opened it - the cork was soaked through and a little moldy in places. First taste - the wine was musty and bad. And then, after a minute or so, flinty and flowery and very lychee and a little sugar cane, like a Riesling and not bad at all for a 14-yr-old white wine.

― Eazy, Saturday, 17 March 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

"...is a good-tasting and cheap..."

― Eazy, Saturday, 17 March 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

Best thing that's happened so far today: Reckless had copies of the new RTX album for sale even though it doesn't come out until Tuesday. I don't think I'm strong enough to listen to it yet though.

― n/a, Saturday, 17 March 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

I've been napping today.

― Jeff, Saturday, 17 March 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

Free samples of whiskey at Jewel.

― Jeff, Saturday, 17 March 2007 23:32 (eighteen years ago)

http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000FG15JE.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Jeff, Saturday, 17 March 2007 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

WHO WANTS TO GET DRIZZUNK

― jaymc, Sunday, 18 March 2007 00:33 (eighteen years ago)

Nearly every bar I walked by today, people almost out the door. And not enough people had proper winter coats on.

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 00:37 (eighteen years ago)

Their Irishness will provide all the insulation they need.

― dan m, Sunday, 18 March 2007 00:40 (eighteen years ago)

I'M SERIOUS. WHO WILL GO GET DRUNK W/ME.

― jaymc, Sunday, 18 March 2007 01:19 (eighteen years ago)

okay.

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 01:25 (eighteen years ago)

Who am I to deny a man who is serious about his drinking?

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 01:25 (eighteen years ago)

OK WHERE

― jaymc, Sunday, 18 March 2007 01:32 (eighteen years ago)

Sandusky, Ohio

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 01:37 (eighteen years ago)

― jaymc, Sunday, 18 March 2007 01:43 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.greatestcities.com/0692pic/394/CP3394.jpg/WickedTwister.jpeg

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 01:48 (eighteen years ago)

I haven't even showered today, I can't ride roller coasters.

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 01:48 (eighteen years ago)

Have you been drinking John?

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 01:53 (eighteen years ago)

No! That's what I'm saying! I want to be!

― jaymc, Sunday, 18 March 2007 01:59 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13442226/

Take this test, I missed 2. That is surprising. Usually, I'm not good at things.

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 02:02 (eighteen years ago)

OK, what bar should we go to, if none of y'all are accompanying us?

― jaymc, Sunday, 18 March 2007 02:07 (eighteen years ago)

Town Hall

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 02:09 (eighteen years ago)

That's in the middle of drunksville.

― jaymc, Sunday, 18 March 2007 02:10 (eighteen years ago)

John, I just left you a voicemail.

― dan m, Sunday, 18 March 2007 02:12 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, you're right. I don't know then.

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 02:12 (eighteen years ago)

Did you leave me one?

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 02:12 (eighteen years ago)

No, because I didn't think you actually wanted to do anything. Do you? That'd be awesome.

― dan m, Sunday, 18 March 2007 02:13 (eighteen years ago)

I don't like the way I am. I am a man of inaction.

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 02:15 (eighteen years ago)

You guys go ahead and make plans and I will inact accordingly.

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 02:16 (eighteen years ago)

You got it.

― dan m, Sunday, 18 March 2007 02:19 (eighteen years ago)

...

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 02:38 (eighteen years ago)

We're meeting up at Ricochet's on Lincoln. I guess if it's full and/or sucks, we'll go somewhere else.

― dan m, Sunday, 18 March 2007 02:52 (eighteen years ago)

Why don't more chilxors where hats?

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 03:23 (eighteen years ago)

WEAR

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 03:39 (eighteen years ago)

I'm watching the Soul Train Music Awards.

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 03:55 (eighteen years ago)

I'm watching Room Raiders.

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 05:12 (eighteen years ago)

What a great fucking first gig. Fun playing, lots of people, good money. Mojitos and chocolate martinis. We need a gig in Chicago, since three out of five musicians drove here from there.

― Jordan, Sunday, 18 March 2007 07:20 (eighteen years ago)

When I was cooking for a living I wore a baseball cap a lot. I still have it, it smells really bad.

― dan m, Sunday, 18 March 2007 08:11 (eighteen years ago)

I was thinking about hats last week because a lot of the women at my work wear really dumb hats, like newsboy caps or this weird stocking hat with two floppy spikes coming out of the top like a jester's hat, and I realized that I don't find women attractive in hats at all. PREEMPTIVE STRIKE: I realize that people don't just wear hats for attractiveness's sake, sometimes they wear them to keep warm.
I think I look dumb in hats because I already have kind of a big head so making it look bigger is a bad choice. Plus I usually have a lot of hair which makes things even worse.

We saw "The Host" last night. It was good. Basically an above-average monster movie with heart. Top-notch special effects.

― n/a, Sunday, 18 March 2007 12:41 (eighteen years ago)

Nick, you are welcome to dislike hats on people all you like, but do keep in mind that stupid winter ski things with like tassels and funny shapes, and newsboy caps or whatever ill-thought-out fashion disaster is in this year are not good examples of millinery, nor indeed haberdashery. When a hat is worn well, it's like the KO punch! You're like "haaaaay that guy's kind of cue--OH SHIT." I recommend a fedora or similar brimmed hat at a jaunty angle for best effect, maaaybe a pork pie. Not much of a fan of the Homburg but I have seen some v natty ones on older men on Sundays.

For women, sadly, the much wider array of choices and colors means primarily that there are more horrifying mistakes to be made, altho of course something that would look RETARDO on me is AWESOME on the lady with the perfectly matched red dress etc etc.

So yeah, not for everyone, but sometimes so assertively incredible, the punctuation to a person's whole public appearance.

― Laurel, Sunday, 18 March 2007 13:05 (eighteen years ago)

The thing is, my dad is a hat guy, which means I can never wear hats without turning into my dad.

― n/a, Sunday, 18 March 2007 13:08 (eighteen years ago)

OOHH, yeah, I do see that. My dad didn't start wearing a hat until we were already grown, so that's not a worry, and West MI isn't really the kind of place where people wear hats to church, so my mom's given up on them. We are free to find our own way.

Maybe at some point you'll be okay with turning into yr dad?

― Laurel, Sunday, 18 March 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

I've now been looking at hats online for like 40 minutes while ignoring the dirty snow and ice outside. SUMMER, PLS!

― Laurel, Sunday, 18 March 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

I wear baseball caps.

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

I would like something like this though:

http://www.millerhats.com/productimages/245.jpg

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, something more like this:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/185/425387492_0bad626006.jpg?v=0

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

I want to see a movie today.

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

i did well on that us citizenship test jeff posted.

i have an awesome new mac laptop and now i have lots of music on it without having to sort through my nightmarish mess of music on my old PC laptop. yay for kenan's ipod.

(when he was trying to transfer files last night though, there was a problem file called OUFU)

― JuliaA, Sunday, 18 March 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v616/j_bdules/DSCN0747.jpg

that's orpheus among shoes.

― JuliaA, Sunday, 18 March 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to see 300. Wish me luck.

Cute cat. Looks like Francie.

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

Hahah, so many pairs of black trooper boots on one shoe-stand. Classic.

― Laurel, Sunday, 18 March 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

Got drunk.

Went to Smith & Wollrensky. The bartenders were wearing kilts. The restaurant supplies them. Then went to Nick's Uptown and hung out next to a couple that was doing some aggressive making out. I suspect they were actually sucking out each others' fillings.

Jameson. Bushmills.

― Jesse, Sunday, 18 March 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

I'm convinced that 300 was funded by the U.S. government and military and is to be used as a recruiting video.

― Jeff, Sunday, 18 March 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

sounds lovely.

― kenan, Sunday, 18 March 2007 23:00 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, Jesse, S&W is having their 10-wines-for-$10 dollars lunch week this week. Want to? Anyone else want to play hooky and have steak and vino?

Saw Little Miss Sunshine last night, finally, and liked it.

― Eazy, Sunday, 18 March 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

BAH

― kenan, Sunday, 18 March 2007 23:37 (eighteen years ago)

LMS followed screenwriting-class structure to the T (a hero's journey; the family discovers that, despite its internal conflicts, it gets from strength from within itself than outside - something I don't really connect with), and I mostly admired it in a detached craft kind of way. The subtle use of the eye chart and the dirty magazine to advance the story later was good craft, as well as that by having to run-start the van meant gave the characters a way to physically pump up their addrenaline. And the actors were funny.

― Eazy, Sunday, 18 March 2007 23:43 (eighteen years ago)

The grammar in that post is atrocious. Or are you bahing steak/wine lunch, K.? Can't you have an afternoon "doctor's appt." one day this week?

― Eazy, Sunday, 18 March 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, Eric, I would like to do that v. much. I think I'm free Wednesday....I'll let you know for sure tonight or tomorrow.

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 00:28 (eighteen years ago)

and all that jazz

― Latham Green, Monday, 19 March 2007 01:00 (eighteen years ago)

Borat DVD deleted scenes were good.

I make romance explosion on my stomach when I make hand party.

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 03:10 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.dumpr.net/cache/02/46/1275297d0e5f/small.jpg

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 04:00 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.dumpr.net/cache/05/4f/e6c2b4329a27/small.jpg

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 04:02 (eighteen years ago)

Disturbing!

http://www.dumpr.net/cache/00/41/29da29db47cb/small.jpg

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 04:04 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.dumpr.net/cache/0f/49/b44ff8d59300/small.jpg

dumpr.net

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 04:06 (eighteen years ago)

[image]http://www.dumpr.net/cache/05/45/e8ff80cebc0f/small.jpg[/image}

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 04:07 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.dumpr.net/cache/05/45/e8ff80cebc0f/small.jpg

http://www.dumpr.net/cache/02/4e/40892d841e28/small.jpg

http://www.dumpr.net/cache/0c/4c/488420e3af64/small.jpg

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 04:15 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.dumpr.net/cache/05/4e/30918f6d1dd7/small.jpg

OK, I'm done.

Let's see some of yours!

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 04:17 (eighteen years ago)

I joined iGo. I really wish I could have joined Zipcars, but there are no cars north of Irving Park. Their cars are cooler (Minis, BMWs!) and it seems cheaper ($9/hr as opposed to iGo's $6.50/hr + .50/mile). Though iGo does run monthly specials and Zipcars yearly fee is $50 instead of iGo's $25.

So I guess it's six of one, half-dozen of the other--except the coolness of the cars.

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 04:51 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.dumpr.net/cache/0e/4c/8fca1de6b4c1/small.jpg

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 04:57 (eighteen years ago)

hi all. Jesse, those are awesome. Especially "A Dick".

― kenan, Monday, 19 March 2007 05:59 (eighteen years ago)

I mostly admired it in a detached craft kind of way

Really? I found the "craft" to be... well... schlock. Recycled, even.

― kenan, Monday, 19 March 2007 06:02 (eighteen years ago)

If you want a cool car you should just buy one.

― Jeff, Monday, 19 March 2007 11:35 (eighteen years ago)

I only wish iGo had trucks.

― Jeff, Monday, 19 March 2007 11:54 (eighteen years ago)

I had a dream last night that I went to visit my sister, and she was renting a room in a house owned by the Melvins, who of course didn't look like the Melvins do in real life. When I first came in, they were practicing, though their guitarist looked sullen and was slumped on a couch. Their drummer was rocking out, and the bass player, who looked like a joker, tapped on the drums with his hands and made a goofy face. Since the guitarist wasn't playing, I picked up the guitar and played a little. Then I went up in the house to see my sister's room. She was staying in one large room with like 4 or 5 other girls. However, each of the Melvins had a beautiful master bedroom of their own, filled with leather chairs and weightlifting equipment.

― n/a, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

If you want a cool car you should just buy one.

Nonsense. I can't afford a BMW --except for the kind I had before, which I would actually love to have again. Borrowing a cool car would be fun.

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

This one is my favorite.

http://www.dumpr.net/cache/00/41/29da29db47cb/small.jpg

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

Happy Monday, kiddos. I'm not going to work today, and my high school and college friend Les is crashed out on the sofa. I say "high school and college"... sounds weird. Like we stopped being friends since then or something. But anyway, I've known him for a good 14-15 years. He's real good people. Last night we hung and talked, ordered a pie, and I played him some of the "How to Talk Hip" record that I've been geeking over all weekend, and then we went to Laurie's Pizza and Liquor for rolling papers at about one in the morning, which he declared "one of the scariest places I've ever been." I feel that.

Don't just put your laptop down on top of the mempry foam on your bed, btw. That stuff is made to trap heat, and your computer will get mad hot. I have ol' Lappy propped up on my alarm clock now, to create some space for the fan to do its thing.

― kenan, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

Not that you care, but Les is doing very well for himself. He's got a job that affords him the opportunity to travel a lot, since it a) pays well and b) doesn't care where he does the work. He telecommutes much of the time. He's doing that today, actually. I mean, he's at work today, on my sofa. That would be nice, no?

I still get a little gleeful frisson when someone tells me that they live in a smaller place than mine, in Queens, and they pay $1400 for it. Ha! We talked about real estate a good bit last night, actually, which happens every time I talk to anyone who lives in New York. It's like a rule.

― kenan, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

Good morning, Kenan et al. I'm glad you have a buddy visiting. Sounds funzone.

I was completely useless all day Saturday - well, until around 3pm. I was 100% hungover FROM ONE F'N BEER. It was only a miller highlife! WTF?! The rest of the weekend was pretty good though. Oh, and some folks took turns taking video of our FF show Friday, so you can find Krakatoa on youtube, should you feel like it. No comments on my outfit though - Ben kept saying I looked like a grandma.

― KitCat, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

Also the story of Jason amused me, another guy I know form wayback (he sold me my first bag of weed!), who makes almost $90k and just got priced out of Carroll Gardens, which is a nice neighborhood in Brooklyn, but not premier or anything. Man alive! If I made that much in Chicago, I could live at the top of a high rise with a lake view.

― kenan, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah -- you're a lightweight, is the problem. You should drink more. ;)

― kenan, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

I started watching Krakatoa, but I realized that I need to shower before I can listen to the rock and roll.

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

The Sun Times needs to be more serious with their weather forecasts.

I had a group of drunken Irishmenandwomen at my table Saturday night. They emptied the water from the vases of flowers and told me that they drank it. I think they may have because I couldn't see where else it might have gone.

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:53 (eighteen years ago)

Irishmenandwomen search results

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

Saturday was weird. At 4 in the afternoon, I swear everyone I saw was drunk already. Especially the homeless. I saw two heated bum arguments in six blocks.

― kenan, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

That would be a good name for a band: Irishmenandwomen.

― n/a, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

Saturday was weird, but it was more because of the aforementioned hangovers, which meant I slept until noon, which I never ever do, and then didn't really leave the house until like 3 p.m.

― n/a, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

That Krakatoa video looks great in black and white.

― Eazy, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

heated bum

L.

Nevermind 4 PM, people were drunk at 9 AM on Saturday.

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

There was a deleted scene on the Borat DVD that showed their run-ins with the police (and Secret Service). The police in Dallas were jerky, telling them "I understand this (run-ins with the law) has happened to you before--well it's gonna keep on happening."

Borat asks, "Why?"

"Because you're in America, and that's how America is."

It went from funny to poignant.

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

i spent st. patty's day listening to records and watching weird youtube shit. also, after two weeks of watching this stuff we somehow got his cell phone number (after calling his sister, who called us back to give us the correct number) and called him to try to get him to come to chicago. any of the videos from 2002 on are amazing. my favorite i think is "also watched" which my friend bill says is bold for it's apparent lack of rhyme scheme or meter. there was a fierce debate about whether this dude is a genius or perhaps mildly retarded.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 19 March 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

lol at dallas police

― kenan, Monday, 19 March 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

Hi everyone!

(don't have much else to say besides that)

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

Hi. I am feeling kind of woozy. Not sure if it's the weird sleep I got last night or the supersweet Slimfast breakfast bar thing I ate this morning. I need salt, that's for sure.

― n/a, Monday, 19 March 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

Good morning y'all. I am feeling really good (possibly because I skipped my morning meeting in favor of more fun things and just got to work now).

― Jordan, Monday, 19 March 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

hi all.

― kenan, Monday, 19 March 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

wow i'm back! I was banned for a while, thanks to weirdness with ilx changes, i guess.

― kenan, Monday, 19 March 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

Banned?

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

in favor of more fun things

:) :)

― Eazy, Monday, 19 March 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, banned, totally locked out, off the grid. it was weird. But i'm back.

― kenan, Monday, 19 March 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

― Jordan, Monday, 19 March 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

;)

― n/a, Monday, 19 March 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about.

― n/a, Monday, 19 March 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

8====> ~~~(-:

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

NSFW!

― Jordan, Monday, 19 March 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

lol @ ascii art

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

Or whatever that is...

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha.

― n/a, Monday, 19 March 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

ATTN LAUREL: Some of my U.P. friends are going to be in and around NYC soon and want to know of cheap bars and fun places to eat. Got any suggestions? They're staying in Williamsburg at least part of the time and are not averse to adventures.

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

john wit teh nasty ascii facial.

hooray!

― kenan, Monday, 19 March 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

Dan, that's really a noise bored question! The only things I know about in Wburg are the ones everyone knows about, because I don't live there and don't get up there very often. Want to start an NB thread?

― Laurel, Monday, 19 March 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

Enh, I thought about it, but I've got better things to do than be zing bait.

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

Last time I was in NYC, I got drunk at noon for pretty cheap at the Levee.

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

Peeps be quiet today.

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

I've just been tired and out of it all day.

― n/a, Monday, 19 March 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

Battling the conflict between wanting to go home early because I'm not feeling my best and wanting to work more hours so I get more $$$. Probably as a compromise I will work close to exactly 8 hours. Which means I get to leave around 2:15.

― n/a, Monday, 19 March 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

It's super nice outside, I wouldn't mind going home at 2. It was hard to drag myself back inside from my walk around the midway.

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

I thought it was supposed to storm today...?

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

OH John, I just realized that bar you linked to is the old Kokie's. Hah. Is the wall of the back room still painted in awesome horizontal stripes like a roller rink?

― Laurel, Monday, 19 March 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

i think the weather is supposed to go to hell this evening. i know tomorrow is supposed to be brisk again then it gets warmer and wetter as the week goes on.

no puns with the forecast, please.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 19 March 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

I don't remember a back room; in fact, the place was fairly small.

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

Indian buffet urgghhhhhh

― Jordan, Monday, 19 March 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

Wow. It's feast or famine on Chilx.

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

Quick, post some doctored photographs!

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

DAN, NNOOOOOOOO

― Laurel, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

Yeh, I am disappointed that you all didn't dig into your Flickr and contribute some fun stuff.

Get to work.

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

Wow.

We need some action around here.

How do you feel about tipping? Is it OK to take pictures of your waiter without his or her knowledge?

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

my favorite annecdote regarding the start of phil spector's trial today:

Leonard Cohen would later recall how on one occasion in the studio Spector approached him with a bottle of Manischewitz (Jewish ceremonial wine) (!!!!!!!!!!) in one hand and a pistol in the other, placed his arm around Cohen's shoulder, shoved the gun in his neck and said: ''Leonard, I love you.'' Cohen, with admirable aplomb, moved the barrel away, saying: ''I hope you do, Phil.''

― chicago kevin, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

lol

― Jordan, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

If you need some action or distraction, this footage from the set of I Heart Huckabees, not unlike the Spector/Cohen scene, shows the crazy underside of show business.

― Eazy, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

Dan: puns are great

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

[image]http://farm1.static.flickr.com/173/427062637_722a84d4f2_m.jpg[/image

in ur bathroom
watchin u brush

― Jordan, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/173/427062637_722a84d4f2_m.jpg

― Jordan, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

I want to watch that clip later--no headphones.

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

me: you don't know what a man pussy is?

Dan: enlighten me

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

Sure, don't post the part where I'm hilarious.

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

If you need some action or distraction, this footage from the set of I Heart Huckabees, not unlike the Spector/Cohen scene, shows the crazy underside of show business.

Was about to post something, then thought better of it.

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

Regarding a certain someone from a certain band?

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

The footage feels a little invasive, even if they are movie stars making a movie. I'm most fascinated by how Hoffman, Huppert, and Mark Wahlberg all just keep themselves calm and centered in that little car.

― Eazy, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

jesse: my man pussy is sour

(above referenced exchange occurs)

jesse: a man pussy is just what you might think it is if you tried to imagine for 1 second...
me: throat?
me: nose?
jesse: no....
the other end
me: ah
jesse: yes, the nose, ding dong
me: yeah that was the thing that confused me
how do you know it's sour
unless you can... taste
me: hence mouth/nose
jesse: i was thinking sour more in terms of emotion
me: ahhhh

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I missed the first video on the page, which it now says is unavailable.

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

Motherfucker. That video was available a couple minutes ago! Now it's down.

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone job hunting? A decent editor's assistant position was just posted here for one of the history journals.

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

It's pretty remarkable. The first clip is of Lily Tomlin chewing out David O. Russell for several minutes with a long stream of profanity, and the second clip is Russell basically doing the same to Tomlin but also throwing props around and resorting to the c word as well.

― Eazy, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

I saw the second one.

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

I still haven't seen Three Kings, though a few folks I know have it on their best-ever list.

― Eazy, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

I suppose I should see it again, but the first time I saw it, it didn't hold any interest for me whatsoever.

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

(Now preparing for hail of insults.)

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

Isn't that the Desert Storm movie with George Clooney and Ice Cube? I've never seen it, though I do have a soft spot for anything involving Cube.

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

Btw, I'm pretty much all caught up on BSG season 3, so we can discuss spoilers on this thread now.

― Jordan, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

Is Jenny in Oklahoma?

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

(j/k Nick lol)

― Jordan, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

Huh. I guess Jenny must be in OK. She didn't even say goodbye!

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

SPOILER ALERT: BSG is boring.

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

I can't stop all y'all from discussing BSG but I'm waiting until season three comes out on DVD, I think. Without my own computer, I'm just not sufficiently committed to download all the eps to my work machine.

― Laurel, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

SPOILER ALERT: BSG is boring.

Vindication for my prejudice!

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny returns from OK tomorrow.

Last night's BSG was good. Jenny hasn't seen it yet though, so no discussing yet.

― Jeff, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

me: jenny is in OKlahoma, right?
Laurel: no idea!
me: it's spring break, right?
Laurel: no idea about that either!
columbia's was last week, that's all i know.
me: oh
what about depaul?
Laurel: HOW SHOULD I KNOW?
me: you don't know your school's spring breaK?
you're not in school?
OMG
OMG
Laurel: god jess, i'm not in school!
me: i thought i was iming someone else!
Laurel: you do know who you're -- ahhh there you go.
[smile]
Sent at 3:36 PM on Monday
me: jesus.
you're Laurel and i thought you were Leslie
Laurel: that's correct, I am laurel.
me: I saw an L and stopped reading

― Jesse, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

Hahah, and my next line was "you should resume it."

― Laurel, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

I think I am going to start watching what I say in GChats with Jesse if it ends up here that quickly.

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

My tummy hurts. Could an overripe avocado cause tummy-ache?

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

i loved three kings. (yes, it's the clooney/ice cube movie)

― JuliaA, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

lol, I don't think Julia and I agree about *anything*.

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

Doesn't a cow get blown up in that movie? (never saw it)

― KitCat, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

According to IMDB, yes.

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

I bought two plane tickets in the last week and both of them were under $200! I'm going to Charlotte (actually a few hours west of Charlotte, thank gad) for a wedding and then I'm going to Oakland to visit two of my oldest besties since one of them is pregnant and this is the last time we will get to hang with her all together before she becomes a parent.

At first I was apprehensive about buying plane tickets since I don't like to spend $$$ on anything, but now I am EXCITED. Getting out of town = TOPS. Cannot wait.

― La Lechera, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

Getting out of town = TOPS. Cannot wait.

muthafuckin' WORD.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

ps my friends are not old like elderly, they have been my closest friends for 17 years --that's devotion.

― La Lechera, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

I feel like getting out of town will make me feel like a viable human being again instead of a dumpy teacher.

― La Lechera, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

I say this as i drink instant coffee and grade midterms.

― La Lechera, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

That's like my AK friends! One of them I've known for like 27 years. I love those kinds of visits. I'm jealous of travelling people.

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

Heh, funny you should post that, since I'm in the midst of trying to decide whether I should go to Seattle in a few weeks, and part of what's stopping me (apart from being begged not to) is that plane tickets plus three nights in a hotel won't be cheap.

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

But if you need to get out, you should get out. Esp. since you travel for the band, you should go somewhere just for you. This is part of the pleasure of not having kids. We get to go on frivolous trips.

My non-stop, round trip ticket to CA = $179. Not bad.

― La Lechera, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

I know. I feel like I've frittered away my 20s not travelling.

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

(Band trips sometimes count and sometimes don't, usually depending on how long I have to actually enjoy being where I am. We played a show in Pittsburgh, but all I saw of the city was the block the club was on.)

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

Band trips for me are always a fucking blast, but I'm really horrible about taking non-band trips. I should work on that, but I don't really have anyone to travel with/visit. All my friends are in Minneapolis, Milwaukee, and Chicago.

I am looking forward to "frivolous" band trips to Philly and Maryland this year though, the kind where we're going to play friends' weddings and parties just to break even and have a good time.

― Jordan, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

I always came to Chicago on vacation. Now that I live here, I have little desire to go to any other American city. Overseas, that's another story. Hopefully within the next two years we'll be traveling to Japan.

― Jeff, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

Well, sure! The only reason I want to go to these places I'm going is 1) there's a wedding there and 2) there's a pregnant friend there. Otherwise I don't strongly desire to visit NC (lived there, been there) or Oakland (meh.) Internationally, sure -- SIGN ME UP. Currently saving up for trip to Mexico.

― La Lechera, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

I would like to visit some national parks in the US, though.

― La Lechera, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

I just calculated that Seattle would cost me about $600, not counting meals/misc. expenses. I'm supposed to make up my mind by tonight.

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone should go to Alaska, it is great. I'd almost rather go back there than about anywhere else in the country.

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

i would think alaska would be a pricy trip. awesome, though.

john, you should go to seattle if you can possibly afford it! the pacific northwest is great.

― JuliaA, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)

26 places I want to go

― Jeff, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

haha cedar point

― La Lechera, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

i can tell you: it's pretty great. if it's still open, there's another amusement park nearby called geauga lake where i almost died on a rollercoaster when i was 8.

― La Lechera, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:12 (eighteen years ago)

I wanted our honeymoon to be at Cedar Point. Didn't work out though, maybe one day.

― Jeff, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

A guy can dream, can't he?

― La Lechera, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)

lol Madison

― Jordan, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:16 (eighteen years ago)

Still haven't been there, only around it.

― Jeff, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

I've been to Seattle once before, when I was 14, and I enjoyed it. This time I'd be going mostly for the EMP Pop Music Conference, but I'd hope I could check out some of the city while I was at it.

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

Traveling alone: classic or MOST classic?

I have a special fondness for traveling alone. I know it's not exactly social (or marital, ahem), but it makes me feel like a real person to be walking around in a strange city, navigating a place I've never been all by myself. It's like I can hear things I have never heard and see things I would not otherwise see because people would be talking all of the time. I love it. One or two people are fine, but more than three and I'm not interested. I've never been part of a large family and large groups traveling together would suck the life outta me. In fact, it sounds awful. To me. Not for other people, obvs.

― La Lechera, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:28 (eighteen years ago)

I even actively like being alone in airports.

― La Lechera, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:28 (eighteen years ago)

I love being alone on this thread.

― La Lechera, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:29 (eighteen years ago)

I like walking around cities alone, and I've done it a fair amount, but at night I feel like I'm missing out on fun while everybody else is hanging with their friends.

― Jordan, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:31 (eighteen years ago)

That's a good point. As long as the trip isn't too long, it doesn't really bother me though.

― La Lechera, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:37 (eighteen years ago)

My 2-week jaunt through Europe was perfect in division between alone time and social time. I flew from Manchester to Paris, then spent the next day in Geneva, the day after in Florence, and the day after that in Rome, where I met up with a high-school friend for a couple of days. After that, it was off to Nice, then Barcelona, then back to Paris, where I met up with friends from college. Then back to London, where I wandered around for a few days before my dad showed up.

<EMBED victor_in_europe_(rules_of_attraction).mpeg>

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

I went to Seattle for a week with my fiancee last fall and it was a wonderful trip, probably the best vacation I've ever been on in my life. The weather was about 75 and sunny the entire week, while Chicago was stuck back in the rainy mid-50s (so much for the shitty weather theory). I'll try to restrain myself, but I can't emphasize enough how great of a city it is. First city I've ever travelled to that I could honestly see myself living in. I love that its such a walkable city with so much going on. Oh, and being able to drive a couple hours out of the city to hike on a real mountain! Classic. You should definitely go if you can swing it.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

You heard the man. Now go to Seattle.

― La Lechera, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

I am leaning toward that right now. Of course, in a couple hours I have to tell that someone who really doesn't want to hear it.

― jaymc, Monday, 19 March 2007 23:02 (eighteen years ago)

I'd like to go back to Seattle too. Washington state in general, actually.

― dan m, Monday, 19 March 2007 23:53 (eighteen years ago)

Hey Dan - can you email me about that job please?

Also PLEASE no BSG discussion on this thread. I am behind on season 3 but also its tedious for nonfans.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

I respect the former, not the latter.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 00:06 (eighteen years ago)

no insults. waste of energy.

hey, what can i do to post to chilx blog again? their new google login thing messed me up.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 00:36 (eighteen years ago)

lol, I don't think Julia and I agree about *anything*.

jaymc on Monday, March 19, 2007 3:48 PM (3 hours ago)

come on, you know you can both agree i have a nice butt.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 00:38 (eighteen years ago)

ps my friends are not old like elderly, they have been my closest friends for 17 years --that's devotion.

i have known my best friend jon since 1978 when we started kindergarten together. we see each other rarely but when we do it takes 15 minutes for it to seem like only it's only been 2 weeks instead of 2 years have gone by. the last time we were together we were in a bar in streeterville (he was in town on work) and we got into a heated politcal debate. he is the only republican that i don't automatically despise because i know somewhere within him is a lefty that used to be there that probably wants to come out but because he's married and has two kids now yearns for the safety that the gop promises yet never delivers.

come back jon, before you lose your soul.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 02:28 (eighteen years ago)

ok, that was a little gross, and i retract it.

les just called me from outside quimby's, and he was like, "so what's going on tonight? should we meet somewhere? what what?" And I'm like, dude, it's Monday night, and this is not New York. Come back to my place, we can watch a really loud and violent movie. That's as exciting as shit gets in Chicago on Monday night.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 02:29 (eighteen years ago)

and yes, i'm drunk. $1.50 domestic bottles at my local get me on mondays.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 02:30 (eighteen years ago)

note also: Les does not drink. Otherwise, we'd have a bunch of options.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 02:31 (eighteen years ago)

I've never known any one, for more than like 6 years.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 02:56 (eighteen years ago)

I burn all bridges between phases of my life.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 02:57 (eighteen years ago)

Hey peoples, I made a new blog:

chilxorz

The login is chilxorz at gmail dot com, the password is the same as the old blog password. Email me if you can't remember the old blog password, I guess.

I posted a song to get things rolling.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 03:58 (eighteen years ago)

What about the old one? I can still access it.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 04:17 (eighteen years ago)

I can't take all these changes in my life.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 04:23 (eighteen years ago)

turn and face the strain

People couldn't log into the blog because I accidentally changed the login and password by signing in with my Gmail account. Can you still log in? If so, what are you doing with my Gmail password?

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 04:27 (eighteen years ago)

all of my blogspot accounts are tied to my gmail accounts. If you go to http://www.blogger.com/start click on switch your account to the new blogger, it should work fine.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 04:29 (eighteen years ago)

Now someone explain to me why twitter hates my phone.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 04:32 (eighteen years ago)

I'm confused. Someone else (think it was Nick) couldn't log in because the old chilx blog asked for my Gmail account password. I couldn't figure out how to change the account back to the way it was or switch it to a new Google account I made. So, I made an all new blog. If there was a better way of doing this I'm all for it, but I'm going to bed now.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 04:34 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, once you convert the blog to the new blogger, you can't go back. All participants would have to switch their accounts to the new blogger as well. I"M JUST SAYING.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 04:39 (eighteen years ago)

Short ribs and syrah - gooooood night.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 05:08 (eighteen years ago)

Traveling alone: classic or MOST classic?

NO. I hate travelling alone. As with most other experiences, for me travelling barely even counts unless I have someone to share it with. Same with TV and movies. I love TV, but it's not nearly as much fun alone.

Really I think lack of a travel partner is the single biggest reason I have not left the US (except to go to Canada with my parents).

On my travels around the US I have always found someone to go with me. It doesn't even have to be a S.O.--sometimes it was a person I could barely even stand, but I brought them along just so I would have someone there with me.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 05:24 (eighteen years ago)

I'm on the new Gmail-oriented Blogger. Does this mean that I could've been posting the CHILX blog this whole time? I must confess, I never even bothered checking because I thought Nick fuxxored the whole thing up.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 05:50 (eighteen years ago)

my understanding is that if you had your own login to the old chilx blog, you're gold. But if you were logging in as chilx all along, as many of us were, you would actually have to BE chilx to log in now, and as we all know, only one little lady is the original chilx.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 07:29 (eighteen years ago)

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 11:31 (eighteen years ago)

Or 10 hours in an arcade.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 11:33 (eighteen years ago)

Ahhhh yes. That's what I'm talkin' 'bout. 5 hours at the flea market, followed by a leisurely stroll.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 12:36 (eighteen years ago)

I like traveling together too. I do. It's just different.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

I think traveling alone would be great. We're always overly concerned about how the other person is feeling about a particular situation. Are they tired, hungry, bored, etc. So much that we would rather make it miserable for ourselves rather than express an opinion on what to do.

I know this feeling too! Actually, this reminds me how annoying it was to travel with my boyfriend as opposed to with a friend. But I think that had more to do with being incompatible travelling partners than anything else. My SUPER Classic would be travelling with a compatible travel partner. ULTRA Classic would be having an SO who is also fits that bill.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 12:50 (eighteen years ago)

I no longer require sleep, and it's making me irritable. I think I'm hypo-manic and this is the light upswing phase--I can't stop working, I'm getting about 4 hours sleep a night, and I'm in a burst of getting a lot of shit done.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 12:53 (eighteen years ago)

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:09 (eighteen years ago)

Hey Jeff (and everybody else)-- Shirts Off Sheffield is having an incredible clearance sale. All their clearance stuff (shirts, sweaters, jackets) is marked down to $20! And they have some nice looking shit. Even if you just bought shirts, it's worth a look.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

I really want to see Seattle someday. It was a close honeymoon contender. I guess that will be our vacation next year. SEATTLE 2008, BABY!

Also, I was going to say that I prefer shared experiences. I don't really like going places alone. Also, Nick is the perfect travel companion for me because we both love going off the beaten track and doing a ton of walking and exploring. As much as I loved seeing the south of France the Christmas before last, traveling with my entire family was LAME.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah, do you guys like long walks on the beach? How about pina coladas? Getting caught in the rain?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

Yes.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

Today is an important day: after a lifetime of wearing a half-windsor knotted tie, I have decided to make a change to the four-in-hand. Hopefully this will flatter my thick neck and round fucking face.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

Someone do this with me

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

I don't even know what knot I use.

I shaved off my beard yesterday morning in a fit of beardlessness. Now I badly need a haircut to match.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha ha ha ha no.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

That was an xpost to Jeff.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:52 (eighteen years ago)

I would do it.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

I was just reading about the return of the Windson knot, and in reading about it I suddenly understood why collars were wide in the 1970s: to fit the big knot. More recently, I was wondering why Jeremy Piven's ties looked so thick on Entourage, and now I realize it's because his ties done in a Windsor knot.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

10 miles.... No.

Note I said HALF-Windsor!

I feel like I was born knowing how to tie a tie. My dad must have taught me, but I think he wore a Windsor.... I guess my brother helped?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

Apparently I do use the 4-in-hand (worth 2 in the bush) knot!

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

I like the 4-in-hand because it gives off a sort of easy confidence or something. I recall seeing on the owner of Tizzi Meloul's he was wearing it with a nice suit and a dress shirt with the collar slightly open, the tie very loosely knotted. It was immediately alluring.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

And googling that saying brought up this

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe I'll just start wearing an ascot. Or a bola tie.

Someone photo-shop me wearing a bola.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

Yesterday I walked to Sarah's work to meet her and then we both walked home. According to Mapquest it's 1.88 miles to her work from our house, though they mapped a slightly more direct route than I walked, so I'm guessing I walked 4 miles yesterday. I can't imagine running more than twice that far. I could probably walk it though, I'm a prety good walker.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

WHOA. xposting over myself back to Jordan. (The link to Amazon.com-- quasi-SFW)

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

I'm a prety good walker.

You're the best darn walker I know.

Use this http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

[2 stars]
My friend Dale advised me on this book. Was very dissapointed there wasn't anything on triple or quadruple fisting inside. Maybe in the revised edition when it comes out.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

I would be lying if I said that did not love fisting....

Spread legs. Insert fist. Twist around for 15-30 minutes or until orgasm. Remove fist. Wash hand. Repeat upon request.

But now that I've discovered Ms. Addington's fantastic book with it's detailed descriptions and explanations, I am a changed man. Can I get a witness? Praise Jesus!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

fist kills thread. fist at eleven.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone's just been fired as their managers collectively look over their shoulders to see what's on their screen.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

I knew you would like the fisting book, Jesse.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

(sorry for not really work safeness)

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone's just been fired as their managers collectively look over their shoulders to see what's on their screen.

I was thinking that everyone was busy clearing their histories.

You know, the book is fine, but the comments are the pay-off.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:19 (eighteen years ago)

I am not clicking on a url for Hand-Bush-Fine-Vaginal-Fisting

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

not at work, anyway. Though I must admit, I'm dead curious now.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

It's not that bad really. It's to Amazon's page for a book called A Hand in the Bush: The Fine Art of Vaginal Fisting.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

The title of the URL sounds like one of those old-timey remedies that would sponsor radio shows. "Yes, folks, it's time once again for the HBFVF Radio Hour. First, this. Say, do you ever get, you know, uncomfortable? Stuffed up?"

― Eazy, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

I feel your fiiiiiist
and I know it's out of love
I feel the whiiiiiiip
and I know it's out of love

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

You ain't even SEEN stuffed up yet.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

Eric, I think we should all go to a coffee shop and have you read aloud to us from this book.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, and if you can make reservations for the wine lunch on Friday, I will go!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, a very quiet coffee shop.

By the way:

http://img.slate.com/media/1/123125/123051/2133658/2148178/060908_MB_RedstoneTN.jpg

The article I read about Windsor knots cited Sumner Redstone (Viacom/CBS chairman) as someone who always wears one.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

Whatever, Dan, Nick, all you white guys look alike to me.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

I think Friday's good, Jesse - if so, any time good for you?

― Eazy, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, any time is good for me.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

NEW YORK â€“ Idaho resident Kathy Evans brought humiliation to her friends and family Tuesday when she set a new standard for stupidity with her appearance on the popular TV show, "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire."

It seems that Evans, a 32-year-old wife and mother of two, got stuck on the first question, and proceeded to make what fans of the show are dubbing "the absolute worst use of lifelines ever."
After being introduced to the show's host Meredith Vieira, Evans assured her that she was ready to play, whereupon she was posed with an extremely easy NEW YORK â€“ Idaho resident Kathy Evans brought humiliation to her friends and family Tuesday when she set a new standard for stupidity with her appearance on the popular TV show, "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire."

It seems that Evans, a 32-year-old wife and mother of two, got stuck on the first question, and proceeded to make what fans of the show are dubbing "the absolute worst use of lifelines ever."
After being introduced to the show's host Meredith Vieira, Evans assured her that she was ready to play, whereupon she was posed with an extremely easy $100 question. The question was:

"Which of the following is the largest?"
A) A Peanut
B) An Elephant
C) The Moon
D) Hey, who you calling large?

Immediately Mrs. Evans was struck with an all consuming panic as she realized that this was a question to which she did not readily know the answer.

"Hmm, oh boy, that's a toughie," said Evans, as Vieira did her level best to hide her disbelief and disgust. "I mean, I'm sure I've heard of some of these things before, but I have no idea how large they would be."

Evans made the decision to use the first of her three lifelines, the 50/50. Answers A and D were removed, leaving her to decide which was bigger, an elephant or the moon. However, faced with an incredibly easy question, Evans still remained unsure.

"Oh! It removed the two I was leaning towards!" exclaimed Evans. "Darn. I think I better phone a friend."

Using the second of her two lifelines on the first question, Mrs. Evans asked to be connected with her friend Betsy, who is an office assistant.

"Hi Betsy! How are you? This is Kathy! I'm on TV!" said Evans, wasting the first seven seconds of her call. "Ok, I got an important question. Which of the following is the largest? B, an elephant, or C, the moon. 15 seconds hun."

Betsy quickly replied that the answer was C, the moon. Evans proceeded to argue with her friend for the remaining ten seconds.

"Come on Betsy, are you sure?" said Evans. "How sure are you? Puh, that can't be it."

To everyone's astonishment, the moronic Evans declined to take her friend's advice and pick 'The Moon.'

"I just don't know if I can trust Betsy. She's not all that bright. So I think I'd like to ask the audience," said Evans.

Asked to vote on the correct answer, the audience returned 98% in favor of answer C, 'The Moon.' Having used up all her lifelines, Evans then made the dumbest choice of her life.

"Wow, seems like everybody is against what I'm thinking," said the too-stupid-to-live Evans. "But you know, sometimes you just got to go with your gut. So, let's see. For which is larger, an elephant or the moon, I'm going to have to go with B, an elephant. Final answer."

Evans sat before the dumbfounded audience, the only one waiting with bated breath, and was told that she was wrong, and that the answer was in fact, C, 'The Moon.'00 question. The question was:

"Which of the following is the largest?"
A) A Peanut
B) An Elephant
C) The Moon
D) Hey, who you calling large?

Immediately Mrs. Evans was struck with an all consuming panic as she realized that this was a question to which she did not readily know the answer.

"Hmm, oh boy, that's a toughie," said Evans, as Vieira did her level best to hide her disbelief and disgust. "I mean, I'm sure I've heard of some of these things before, but I have no idea how large they would be."

Evans made the decision to use the first of her three lifelines, the 50/50. Answers A and D were removed, leaving her to decide which was bigger, an elephant or the moon. However, faced with an incredibly easy question, Evans still remained unsure.

"Oh! It removed the two I was leaning towards!" exclaimed Evans. "Darn. I think I better phone a friend."

Using the second of her two lifelines on the first question, Mrs. Evans asked to be connected with her friend Betsy, who is an office assistant.

"Hi Betsy! How are you? This is Kathy! I'm on TV!" said Evans, wasting the first seven seconds of her call. "Ok, I got an important question. Which of the following is the largest? B, an elephant, or C, the moon. 15 seconds hun."

Betsy quickly replied that the answer was C, the moon. Evans proceeded to argue with her friend for the remaining ten seconds.

"Come on Betsy, are you sure?" said Evans. "How sure are you? Puh, that can't be it."

To everyone's astonishment, the moronic Evans declined to take her friend's advice and pick 'The Moon.'

"I just don't know if I can trust Betsy. She's not all that bright. So I think I'd like to ask the audience," said Evans.

Asked to vote on the correct answer, the audience returned 98% in favor of answer C, 'The Moon.' Having used up all her lifelines, Evans then made the dumbest choice of her life.

"Wow, seems like everybody is against what I'm thinking," said the too-stupid-to-live Evans. "But you know, sometimes you just got to go with your gut. So, let's see. For which is larger, an elephant or the moon, I'm going to have to go with B, an elephant. Final answer."

Evans sat before the dumbfounded audience, the only one waiting with bated breath, and was told that she was wrong, and that the answer was in fact, C, 'The Moon.'

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

Whatever, Dan, Nick, all you white guys look alike to me.

Haha is this perhaps an xpost??

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

OK sorry I don't know why that posted twice.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

Now I'm having flashbacks to the hot lesbian sex that I am now hearing most every weekend. It was uncomfortable at first, because you hear those kind of shenanigans going on, and your first thought is, "WOW is that ever not my business." But it's so frequent now, and so persistent, that I've relaxed about it. "Hey. They're doin' it again. Check it out."

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

that's a huge xpost, btw

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

http://www2.goldmansachs.com/our_firm/investor_relations/financial_reports/annual_reports/2002/images/letter/chiefs_216x219.jpg

See also: Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson (right)

New Mexico Declares Official State Tie: Bolo

Tue Mar 13, 2:54 PM ET (Associated Press)

New Mexico got an official state neckwear Tuesday. Not one of those pretty little silk numbers, but a real Western icon: the bolo tie.

It's "our bipartisan fashion statement," said Gov. Bill Richardson, who wore a large, Indian-made bolo inset with turquoise and other stones as he signed the legislation.

The Legislature voted to add the bolo to a long list of official symbols in state law, including the state cookie, the bizcochito; the state bird, the roadrunner; and even a state question — "Red or Green?" an inquiry about chili preference.

Bolos, also called bolas or string ties, feature a sliding clasp on a thin cord, often made of braided leather. Slides can be large or small, metal such as gold or heavy silver, and plain or heavily decorated.

They may be worn with everything from jeans to tuxedoes.

Arizona adopted the bola tie as its official state neckwear in 1973.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

Ask Jenny sometime about how much lesbians like fisting.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

John, that story seems suspicious. What is your source?

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

Haha is this perhaps an xpost??

I was responding to the last thing I read before I left for work. Don't be so chatty while I'm commuting.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

John, that story seems suspicious. What is your source?

Some stupid e-mail forward. Snopes has debunked it.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny, how much do lesbians like fisting?

― Eazy, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

Kenan, how much do, etc., etc.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

I only know what I hear. There are no confirmed cases of fisting.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

"confirmed"

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

Hey Nick & Sarah, what's that place where you got your bicicletas? Somewhere on the South Side, I think?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

I once read a poem in a book by a lesbian poet that began with lines about how the fist being like a blooming flower inside, or something like that.

I'm heading out, but:

[image]http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5766/captsgekyc88070906062846photo00photodefault510x512oo3.jpg[/iimage]

More windsor knot from our Secretary of the Treasury.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

I am making a tour of the balkans to promote this

― Ed, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5766/captsgekyc88070906062846photo00photodefault510x512oo3.jpg

(see above)

― Eazy, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

Here you go:

http://img201.echo.cx/img201/3692/batshark9wi.gif

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

John: Working Bikes Cooperative. It's on south Western somewhere.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

Would I like Amy Winehouse?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

I think you two are made for each other.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

Stop being a pussy and just ask her out, already.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

She probably has a boyfriend.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

The two Amy Winehouse songs I've heard are just okay. "Rehab" is kind of catchy, but sometimes I get annoyed by white chicks trying to get all soul goddess. Or at least, I preferred Christina Aguilera's "Ain't No Other Man."

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Amy Winehouse mention reminds me of another funny NPR popular music story. They were doing their SXSW coverage a week or so ago and their resident popular music dude was talking about bands he was excited about. Mostly they were typical NPR bands: Shearwater, Amy Winehouse and some whispery female singer-songwriter. But his "rock and roll" choice? Andrew W.K. They played some of "Party Hard" and then the female announcer who was asking the questions said "Well, everyone here in the studio certainly is bouncing around in their seats." I like Andrew W.K. but it seemed like an odd choice for 2007.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Oh NPRpaws.

I have never heard of Shearwater but it's a horrible name.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

I still have never heard Andrew WK. I have a feeling I'd really like him, so I'm not sure what I'm waiting for, exactly.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

I like Amy Winehouse. and I get the impression that her voice is just her voice; it's not an affectation.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

What's the music like, is it nu-soul or neo-soul?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

I saw Shearwater once. For such a folky band, their drummer looked like some kind of mid 80's metalhead unfrozen caveman. They were OK.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan, her first album is jazzy and and the new one is more girl-group wall-of-sound-y. I don't know that I'd consider either of them "neo-soul," though I think the first one is a bit closer to that. I don't know what nu-soul is!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not really trying to diss any of those bands. It's more that NPR is so predictable in its popular music choices, and even their behind-the-times "unpredictable" ROCKANDROLL pick is almost sweetly predictable.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

Or rather, the fact that they are 5 years behind is what's predictable. I still think the choice of Andrew WK is a little WTF though.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

NPR in middle-of-the-road shocker

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

Makes me wonder if the commentator was someone who graduated from college in '01 and hasn't really bothered to update their musical tastes since then.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

the gender politics on amy winehouse's first album are kind of bad, though, fyi. it always bums me out a little.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know what nu-soul is!

That was my shorthand for electronic vs. acoustic, I guess.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

tell me more about these gender politics. It's not as annoying as Nellie McKay, is it?

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha, Pitchfork reports that these are lyrics from Mastodon's contribution to the Aqua Teen Hunger Force movie soundtrack:

If I see you videotaping this movie
Satan will rain down your throat with hot acid
And saw your testicles
And turn your guts into snakes

This is a copyrighted movie for Time-Warner
If I found you sold it on eBay
I will break into your house and tear your wife in half

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

oh! electronic, then, mostly. but like I said, it's a very self-consciously retro sound.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

I had no idea Amy Winehouse had an album before the one that's currently being promoted. I thought "Rehab" was her debut single.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

"I will eat your children"

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

I posted a dress on ebay yesterday, but there are zero bids so far. Le sigh.

Those lyrics are amazing.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

Also, who is going to see Bjork with me?

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm reading lyrics looking for gender politics, and the biggest problem I have with them so far is that they're incredibly trite.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

Winehouse, i mean.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

I was just thinking about that. I would like to see Bjork.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

Also, this probably goes back to our argument about the use/value of music critics, but I find it hard to sniff at NPR covering Amy Winehouse when the only reason I know about her is because of British people at Stylus and the occasional mention on Pitchfork. She's not exactly a big star.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

Makes me wonder if the commentator was someone who graduated from college in '01 and hasn't really bothered to update their musical tastes since then.

I thought your point was that they were covering Andrew WK as though he didn't already have his moment in the sun 5 years ago?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

It's not about how popular she is, it's just that her music seems so typically NPR. Based on the 20-second sample I heard. Of course, there's no reason why NPR shouldn't be reporting on the music that its listeners prefers, I just think its amusing how safe and predictable they are in the popular music they report on.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

amy winehouse gender politics, horseshoe's issues with:

1) song: "Stronger than Me" this is a song sung to a beloved (man) who's too much of a pussy. it's cleverly written, honestly, but the content of it is pretty traditional gender roles-y, and sometimes it's funny and tongue-in-cheek, and sometimes it seems a little too serious.

2) song: "Fuck Me Pumps" a song mocking women who pursue wealthy soccer players in England, I guess? it's really harsh on them, not at all harsh on the men in question, and is particularly cruel about them "aging" (read: "pushing 30," as the lyrics go).

those songs are both on the first album. she was 19, so I think she's very possibly grown out of it. it's annoying, though, because they're two of the better songs on the album.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

first album: Frank, came out maybe 2005?

I don't think her lyrics are trite! awkward sometimes, but not trite!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

I just think its amusing how safe and predictable they are in the popular music they report on.

You could say the same thing about Pitchfork.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

oh I totally lied. Frank came out in 2003, though probably later in America.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

YOU ARE TOTALLY RIGHT, IT WAS NOT AN AMUSING ANECDOTE AT ALL

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

You could say the same thing about Pitchfork.

I think you are wrong, but I am not defending Pitchfork on the Internet.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

aw, it was amusing! or at least, wtf-y!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think her lyrics are trite! awkward sometimes, but not trite!

I dunno, maybe trite is not exactly the right word. Heavy-handed? Anyway it makes sense that she was 19 when she wrote all that. The word "insightful" does not leap to mind.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry, I just take issue with all the "ho ho NPR is so middlebrow, we know WAY more about music than they do" attitude that permeates this message board.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

NPR and Bitchfork report on the same music. See: Clipse, Thunderbirds Were Then!

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

well, she was 19 when the first album came out. she's 23 now. I don't know which album's lyrics you were looking at.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

Or maybe I've just heard enough lyrics about gender politics already, and I never want to hear any more. It could totally be that.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not sure I believe what I said about Pitchfork, I just wanted to throw that out there. Actually, I might believe it if it were in reference to Pitchfork pre-2003.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry, I just take issue with all the "ho ho NPR is so middlebrow, we know WAY more about music than they do" attitude that permeates this message board.

Jeez, John, you also know way more about music than NPR. Is this like how you get all testy when people describe things as Midwestern?

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

well none of her lyrics are about gender politics! she just evinces bad politics in some of them. anyway. no one cares about this but me.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

well, I did not mention Nellie McKay idly... she was 19 when her first record came out, too, and it's similarly leaden and kind of a little bit, like, insufferable.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

Of course I know way more about music than NPR! I just don't see the point of feeling smugly superior about it. NPR is good at what it does.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

ho ho NPR is so middlebrow, we know WAY more about music than they do

Which part of this is untrue?

I don't think it's a bad thing that NPR is middlebrow. But that doesn't mean that I can't affectionately make fun of them for it.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

Like, imagine if Sinead O'Connor made her first album again with 1/3 of the talent.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

Any venue that you are familiar with, NPR, message boards, websites, becomes predictable in their choices. It's just the way things go.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

xpost to myself

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

You have to admit that there's a certain range & style of new music that is likely to get on NPR, and stuff which definitely won't. Kind of like how it's easy to pick what cds will show on spinners in Starbucks (a lot of which I actually like!).

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

I agree that NPR is good at what it does. I wish that its popular music coverage were more relevant to me, but I understand that would not be convenient to most of its audience.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

I stand by my posts on this thread:

[Removed Illegal Link]

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

this one

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

Huh, I just realized that the guy who writes the crossword puzzle for the Reader posted on that thread.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

I wish that its popular music coverage were more relevant to me, but I understand that would not be convenient to most of its audience.

Yeah, but how much of the NPR audience is scrambling for more music reviews, anyway?

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

I would say ... some.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

"This just in: amazing old black dude rediscovered, released record. Some chick sings jazzy crap about her vagina. Tune in next week."

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

I can't believe I have over an hour left until lunchtime! SO! BORED!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

Some chick sings jazzy crap about her vagina.

!

I think I'm going to buy music today. I want that Powerhouse Sound album, and something else. Maybe LCD Soundsystem (who I've never actually heard)? Winehouse? That Four Tet + jazz drummer thing?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

a perfect NPR record

I mean, who would dare to give that a bad review? Who even knows enough about that kind of music to even BEGIN to give it a bad review?

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

Don't get the new wilco, um, if you even can.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

Wouldn't dream of it.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

Personally, I'd recommend the new Blonde Redhead 23, Of Montreal, and RTX Western Xternminator.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

loving the new Blonde Redhead, excellent recommend.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

I back up Sarah's choices and add:
Jesu - Conquerer
Deerhunter - Cryptograms
Panda Bear - Person Pitch (if it's out yet)

Of those, I would imagine Jordan would like Jesu the most, since it's semimetally.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

RTX is hair-metally.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

Goddammit, Orbitz is being dumb.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

The same dude who burned me Field Music gave me a Blond Redhead album, I liked it but didn't really feel the need to listen to it again.

since it's semimetally.

What kind of metal?

Maybe I'll sneak out to the record store over lunch.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

The Four Tet/Steve Reid stuff is pretty cool.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

Is it free jazzy? I'm anti-free jazz at the moment.

I'm so excited for Bjork and Timbaland albums coming out. It's like '00 all over again!

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

It's kind of slow, shoegazery metal from a dude who used to be in Napalm Death and Godflesh. I feel like I shouldn't like it but I keep wanting to listen to it.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

I dunno, I suppose it's free jazzy but there's something not too "free" about lining up samples and shit. I liked the bits that I heard.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

I remember that slow doom metal stuff that you were playing at that Halloween party, whenever that was. It sounded awesome at the time but these days I can't picture myself listening to it at home/in the car much.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

This isn't as heavy as whatever I was playing at Halloween. It's prettier and has melodies and keyboards but is definitely rooted in metal. Anyways.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

I was probably playing Sleep at Halloween.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

is field music at the bottle tonight?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.taxi-driver.it/img/copertine/jerusalem.jpg

That album rules.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

Field Music is at the EB tonight. I now doubt that I will go.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

Oh man, I haven't heard Sleep in a long time. The metalheads I knew back in college loved the shit out of that band.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

Also: In Flames

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I'm going to be at the Field Music show tonight. Anyone else? Should I get tickets in advance? I feel like that Menomena album's gotten a lot of hype.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

OOIOO is tomorrow night at the bottle.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

and you will see me there, because i wouldn't miss that shit for the world.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

And actually, Jesu and Isis are at the Metro on Thursday, though tickets are $16.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

Not a vast amount, I realize, but more than I would normally pay, and I would have to deal with Ticketmaster because that will probably sell out.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

Should I OOIOO or Girl Talk this week? I'm already Bulls/Nuggeting it.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, IS-IS.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

I now doubt that I will go.

:(

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

FUCK I AM REALLY ANGRY ABOUT SOMETHING.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

(NOT ABOUT NICK NOT COMING TO THE EMPTY BOTTLE. ABOUT THE SEATTLE THING. GODDAMMIT.)

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

yelling gets you no where. Unless it's on the phone with a utility company.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

I missed this. Were you planning on just going to Seattle alone on vacation or with someone? Are you mad because Orbitz is being a biotch.

I'm angry too.

Firstly, I suddenly feel like I'm coming down with a bad cold.

Secondly, one of my coworkers just asked me to come help her with Outlook. She said all her contact lists were doubled. Should she try deleting the doubles? I said, I have no idea. Sure, try it. So she did. It seems fine. Then she deletes one of her two Contacts files and loses everything she had for an entire project (all contact names/addresses). She complains OMG! Now I'm going to have to retype the whole thing! (about 50 contacts with info). I say, no you don't. Just print out your excel listing with the contact info and put it up near your desk for when you need the emails. Then she says, What are you doing this afternoon? I ignored her and walked away. Is there an easy way to restore the lost contacts??? PLEASE?

Thirdly, another coworker has a tendency to hold things and then dump them all on me at once, so she just handed me a huge pile of stuff. Then I went to my inbox and she had filled it TO THE BRIM.

Sad.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

People who randomly delete things from programs need to learn the magic that is ctrl-z.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

Also, I hate Outlook. Word, too. A manager here asked me to convert an InDesign file into a Word document. Not like re-make the file as a different kind of file, he wanted me to use COMPUTARS to magically make this file transform. This is, of course, impossible. Although I did entertain the idea of printing a PDF, then using our POS scanner/copier/fax machine to scan it and do OCR on the PDF, then feeding that into Word. I bet it'd look FANTASTIC.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

Too late for that. I had her go to Edit but she couldn't UNDO.
WTF does this have to be my problem?!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

I really don't want to spend my entire afternoon doing f'ing data entry for her.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

I guess it's possible we might still go to Field Music but I'm really tired and I'm having trouble imagining that they're going to be really amazing live.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah you are not getting sick.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

Drink some Emergen-C.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

Hm. I don't really know how it'd be done, Sarah, but if your company runs a Microsoft Exchange server for email, it's possible it's backed up somewhere on that server. This looks like a job for IT drone #3568817-A Niner!

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

View by folder list (not mail, not contacts, tasks, etc, the very last option at the bottom of the folder list pane) and check the deleted items in there. You may need to expand it. I'm almost sure they would be in there.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

Were you planning on just going to Seattle alone on vacation or with someone? Are you mad because Orbitz is being a biotch.

I was planning on going to Seattle alone, but meeting up with people at the EMP Pop Music Conference. I am mad because someone feels so strongly about me not going, he is willing to pay me $150 not to go. I am mad at myself for possibly caving and feeling like a chump.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

Ooh, sounds like a lawyer or two has deleted their contacts before.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

Also, to access folder list: Go, Folder List. If you can't find it on the screen.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

I'll try that Jeff! Thanks!

Also, sorry, I'm grumpy about some other dumb stuff too.

John, that's irritating. Who are you most excited about seeing at the conference?

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

This is, of course, impossible. Although I did entertain the idea of printing a PDF, then using our POS scanner/copier/fax machine to scan it and do OCR on the PDF, then feeding that into Word. I bet it'd look FANTASTIC.

dan, it winds up looking like a charcoal sketch of the original document. trust me on this.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

I'm interested in seeing presentations from Mike Powell, Mike Barthel, Robert Christgau, Jonathan Lethem, Michaelangelo Matos, etc., and hanging out with Alfred Soto and whatever other ILXors show up (donut bitch, Ned, etc.)

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

John, GO! GO! GO! Do not pass go!

Jeff, that worked. I KISS YOU KISS YOU KISS YOU! (not literally)

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

The pot has been sweetened somewhat for me to stay.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

The kind you smoke?

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

I know this is kind of old news, but I hadn't seen the picture yet...

[image]http://www.hanzismatter.com/tattoo_chi-tonw.jpg[\image]

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

Shit, once again, image as a LaTeX tag...

http://www.hanzismatter.com/tattoo_chi-tonw.jpg

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

John, you should go and miss the gig.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, no. Just something that makes staying more favorable -- part of which is that I wouldn't really be "staying" here, just "not going" there. I know that's vague, whatever.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

ok wtf is with misspelling a tattoo? that badly? that's amazing. who could do that?

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

So, road head?

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

(xpost)

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

Deliberately Misspelled "CHI-TONW" Tattoos Are The New Trend In Chicago

March 14, 2007 9:14 a.m. EST

Nidhi Sharma - All Headline News Staff Writer

Chicago, IL (AHN) - A Chicago area tattoo artist who was sued last month by his customer over a misspelled "CHI-TOWN" tattoo claims he has many customers flocking to him who are now asking for the misspelling deliberately.

Tattoo artist Sam Hacker garnered media attention last month when a customer named Michael Duplessis sued him after Hacker accidentally made a tattoo that read "CHI-TONW" instead of "CHI-TOWN."

Following the incident, Hacker claims about 20 people have received "CHI-TONW" tattoos and more requests are pouring in. The Chicago Sun-Times quotes Hacker as saying, "I feel really good about my friends standing up, and the family of tattoo artists."

Hacker himself has a "CHI-TONW" tattoo on his leg. Many of his friends stood up in his support by first getting them tattooed with "CHI-TONW" when the suit was filed against him.

Showing off his "CHI-TONW" tattoo, a 19-year-old student Kyle Ward of Addison said he got his on Monday, above an ankle. "Each letter is an individual piece of art.'' Hacker claims to have three more "CHI-TONWs" this week at Rising Phoenix.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

One more quick outlook question.
How can I make it so that when she goes to compose an email and clicks on the TO field, she can access all of her Contact folders and not just one or two?

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

lol

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah, I don't know, maybe "Show Names From -> Global Address List"? I've never really dug into Outlook. I just start typing in the contact name and if it doesn't completion match right away I press ctrl+k.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

mmmmmmm wasabi peas

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not going to Seattle. I think I'm OK with this.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

"think" ... regrets suck, man.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

Are you playing some superawesome show instead? Making pop music instead of hearing other people talk about it?

I want to play some superawesome shows.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

You'll have to e-mail me for any more than that.

I can go to the conference next year.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

I am back from Tulsa. Unless you're best bud and her three year old daughter are temporarily trapped there and you miss her and want to hang out, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND GOING THERE.

So many rednecks. So many churches. So many dream catchers danging from the rear view mirrors of trucks.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

YOUR

This is what happens to normal people who go to Tulsa.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

Welcome back, Jenny!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

Breathe in the nice city air!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

I'll take Tulsa off the list.

My mom has called me twice today to tell me to marry a Jewish girl. Did you know that Jewish girls don't cheat? WTF moms.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, not even open spaces and quietness and cleaner air and 70 degree, sunny weather was enough to make me think anything good about Tulsa.

Jordan, tell yr mom that it's not that Jewish girls don't cheat; they're just better at sneaking around. She'll like that.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

eatin' ain't cheatin'

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

ahaha moms. my mom once told me indian men don't cheat.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

WAIT. I went to a restaurant called the Flying Roll that served delicious fried chicken and all you can eat green beans, fried okra, corn, mashed potatoes and gravy PLUS amazing hot yeast rolls that they threw at you from the center of the restaurant. That was something very good about Tulsa.

Note: If anyone ever has to entertain a three year old, I highly recommend going to a restaurant where they throw rolls.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

I think the logical loophole goes something like "if they cheat then they're not good Jews anyway"

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

I am going to feed tonight. I will eat all this chicken, okra, mashed potatoes etc.!!!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

Right click on the contacts folder (in the contacts view), select properties, Outlook Address Book tab, make sure that Show this folder as an email address book is checked. I think that is what you are looking for.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

Oh btw, horseshoe, I really liked The Namesake. There were a couple of characters that were sort of one-note caricatures, but the whole movie was pretty entertaining and, in some places, lip-quiveringly poignant.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

John ... "lip-quiveringly poignant"?

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

;_;

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

haha jaymc, I actually came onto the thread just now to ask you whether you liked it and then got distracted by okra/good jewish girls. I love Mira Nair, even though she's hit-and-miss. good to know; I will try to see it.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

The only other Mira Nair film I've seen is Mississippi Masala, and I saw that when I was like 13 or 14.

"Lip-quiveringly" = I didn't cry, but I came very close several times.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

mississippi masala is a medium nair effort, I think. classic because of hot people having sex.

i found "lip-quiveringly" as a review helpful, because lipquivering for normal people means I will cry.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think my lip has ever quivered.

― n/a, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

monsoon wedding is so so so good. I still haven't seen her 9/11 movie and would really like to.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

you are a cold man, Nick.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, did I see The Perez Family? I don't remember. Whenever people talk about movies coming out at the same time about the same topic, they always reference Armageddon and Deep Impact, or Volcano and Dante's Peak, or A Bug's Life and Antz, or Capote and Infamous. No one ever mentions The Perez Family and Mi Familia (both 1995).

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

i always forget that she directed the perez family. i should see that some time.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

(Pretty sure I saw Mi Familia.)

I think I might have cried if I wasn't with my dad.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

i have seen bits of hysterical blindness on tv from time to time, but the cognitive dissonance of uma thurman as jersey girl always weirds me out a little too much to keep watching.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

kama sutra is so so so bad. so bad it cannot be saved by hot people having sex. :(

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

Volcano has been getting pretty heavy advertising on AMC. God that movie sucked so bad.

Papillon, on the other hand, rules.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

hi today is the day I hijack the chicago thread to talk to myself about stuff!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

Missississippi Masala was appealing to me as a 13-year-old because I was kind of obsessed with interracial relationships. As in, I didn't just watch Jungle Fever and Flirting but also examined my library's microfiche archives for articles on the subject and sent away for a transcript of a Jenny Jones episode addressing white men who love black women.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

did any of y'all see her vanity fair? I heard it was awful, but Mira Nair + Reese Witherspoon=love! I can't believe I haven't seen it.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

(Haha, too many S's. Mississississississississippi.)

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

Flirting is a great movie!!!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

I used to have a mean crush on Noah Taylor. where did he go?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

Also, the weird thing about my obsession with interracial relationships was that it was prompted by a dream I had in 7th grade, in which I kissed an African American girl in the boiler room at school.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

sent away for a transcript of a Jenny Jones episode addressing white men who love black women.

whoa dude.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

IMDB says that Noah Taylor has been in a bunch of movies I've seen, but the last one I actually remember him being in was Shine.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

okay, judging by the photo that pops up on his IMDB page, I still have a mean crush on Noah Taylor.

I cannot see Shine due to a being grossed out by geoffrey rush problem.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

OK that's weird.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

what, being grossed out by geoffrey rush?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

also, whateva, mr. sends-away-for-Jenny-Jones-transcripts!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

I can see it.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

That is a problem, Geoffrey Rush rules. He was kind of gross in Quills, though.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

Gene Wilder kind of grosses me out. Maybe that's not the right word, but I just can't stand looking at him or hearing his voice. This sucks because it ruins a lot of Richard Pryor stuff for me.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

He was kind of gross in Quills, though

you mean, he was kind of geoffrey rush?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

SNAP

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

also, whateva, mr. sends-away-for-Jenny-Jones-transcripts!

It was in the pre-Internet days! What was a poor adolescent in 1992 supposed to do?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

did u see Noah Taylor as young Hitler? wasn't cute there.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sort of lying, because I love pirates of the carribbean, but that's some brilliant casting of geoffrey rush. it's like, because you are the grossest dude on the planet, you get to play the grossest dude on the planet.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, I don't really want to see my beloved noah taylor play Hitler. I think I'll avoid that movie.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

But you'll miss John Cusack saying "Cmon Hitler, I'll buy you an ice cream." (not joke)

I couldn't make it far enough into pirates of the carribbean amusement ride to see Geoffrey Rush. EJECT

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks for mentioning Infamous, John, I was trying to remember what that movie was called.

Today's adds to ntflx queue: Infamous, a bunch of Bjork live dvds

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

Don Rickles gives me the creeps like that.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

But you'll miss John Cusack saying "Cmon Hitler, I'll buy you an ice cream." (not joke)

hahahaha

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

What's that movie called -- is it Max?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

yes.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

okay, I love him and everything, but noah taylor could seriously use a sandwich.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

I once did a Google usage survey on "eat a sandwich/someone give him (or her) a sandwich/seriously needs a sandwich" versus "burger" or "milkshake" or whatever. I probably posted it in this thread. I don't remember what I found. I do wonder how "sandwich" came to be the most prominent example of something that skinny celebrities should eat.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

i think i started using it after reading it on television without pity a lot. a sandwich seems more nourishing than a milkshake.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha ha
A company wants to do a "Lunch & Learn" here about MOLD & MOISTURE. Yum!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

The sandwich is universal to all cultures.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

also, sandwich is more of a category than a specific food? lots of things could qualify as a sandwich.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

i wish i had a sandwich. specifically a turkey club from flat sammies.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

I had a roast beef, pepperoncini, and mozzarella panini for lunch, it was delicious. The cafeteria in my new building is right.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

Sandwich disclosure time!

I had black forest ham, swiss, and honey mustard on a croissant. With tomato/onion/lettuce/sprouts and a pickle.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

dudes I had a pastrami sandwich for lunch but they put MAYO on it!!! who does that? I had to scrape it off. :(

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

I once did a Google usage survey on "eat a sandwich/someone give him (or her) a sandwich/seriously needs a sandwich" versus "burger" or "milkshake" or whatever. I probably posted it in this thread.

You totally did, or I just got the strongest deja vu in my life ever.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder if I could mail noah taylor a pastrami sandwich. pastrami=fattiest deli meat, right?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I can't find it through Google, though.

I love sandwiches. They're kind of my default meal.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

Does a wrap count as a sandwhich? I had a whole wheat tortilla with mixed greens, shredded carrot, moz, raspberry vinaigrette, and avocado. VOILA!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

I had a great idea for a t-shirt that says, "I fucking love sandwiches." I even got my graphic design friend Scot to make a sandwich graphic for it. Then I went to law skoo. The end.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

SANDWICH IS TASTY BUT ALSO HEALTHY.

"Give her a cake" or "Give her melba toast" would be too much in either direction.

And sandwich is generic enough that she could choose exactly what kind of sandwich she wanted, so it's not like "give her an omlette" or give her something she might not like. Everyone likes some sort of sandwich.

That said, you did write about your googling of this phrase in a long-age Chicago thread, J.

P.S. It's one week later, but you wouldn't know that at the Clark Street Best Buy service dept.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know, Sarah. nothing is really sandwiched between two things in a wrap. the duality seems key.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny, you could be a lawyer + sell that T-shirt!!! I'd buy it.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

dudes I had a pastrami sandwich for lunch but they put MAYO on it!!! who does that? I had to scrape it off. :(

Deli ineptitude pisses me off. You do not put mayo on pastrami, and you do not put tomato or (gah!) iceberg lettuce, either. In fact, I might go so far as to say that you do not put iceberg lettuce on anything.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

All of you really have to try the new Serrano ham and cheese from Hannah's. Spectacular. Unless you don't eat meat.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

I haven't had pastrami in 10 years, so I need to ask -- why can't you put mayo on pastrami? Because it's no longer kosher?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

it just tastes wrong, John. its blandness neutralizes the pastrami flavor somehow. mayo is fine on many sandwiches (turkey, for example).

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

Jeff's tales of Hannah's kind of make me wish I worked in the Loop again, just like my roomie's tales of Jerry's kind of make me wish I worked in the West Loop.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

it hadn't occurred to me that it made the sandwich not kosher, but I guess that's true, too.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

dudes I had a pastrami sandwich for lunch but they put MAYO on it!!!

Gross. Mustard or nothing, or death.

Is pastrami significantly more phatty than ham, salami, etc.? I haven't given it much thought.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

i guess i assume pastrami is the fattiest bc it is like crack to me--if i buy it from the grocery store i eat it all in 5 minutes.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, you CAN put mayo on pastrami, but it's not only non-traditional, it's just not right.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

Last week I went to the deli and got a sandwich and half a pound of sliced ham, to be used for lunches and snacks for the week. After work I started snacking on the ham in the car...it was gone before I got home.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

pastrami is the most sensual of the salted, cured meats

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

and yeah, it's very fatty -- it's from the abdomen part of the brisket, which is the fatty end

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

haha

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

Vocab section of midterm. KOSHER is a vocabulary word. HALAL is also a vocabulary word

Directions: Write three complete sentences using at least one vocabulary word in each sentence.

Answer I actually received:
Karla and Jose weeding to religion halal god.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

I simply cannot give credit for this answer.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

That's very similar to the wording of Jeff and my wedding invitations.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sorry. Weeding invitations.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

hahahaha! aw, Amanda, maybe you could give a little credit? it seems like the student kind of knew the ballpark of "halal." religion+god, after all!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

All this talk about pastrami reminds me of an old episode of the Ed Grimley Show in which Joe Flaherty alleged that Amelia Earhart crashed because she was choking on a pastrami sandwich.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

Oh dear. BTW, mayo is totally kosher on meat, it's not considered a dairy product. In fact on a platter of kosher meats and pickles and sliced onions mustard and extremely strong tastes, without the option of cheese or butter, I find that mayo is often the only softening, gentle taste available to lighten up the mouth experience! Sandwiches need cheese, this is non-negotiable.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

Wow. Paula Deen is fucking insane. What the hell is wrong with that woman?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

My favorite answer from the vocab section, though, is this:

(student answer in bold)

When the doorbell rang I thought I was going to get flowers, but I got a octogenarian. instead.

(correct answer: subpoena)

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

oh, I didn't know that, Laurel! (about mayo not being considered a dairy product.) my pastrami sandwich had swiss and I was fine with that part.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, I was *just about* to post, not two minutes ago, "Isn't Laurel an expert on kosher practice? I've always meant to ask her why, since she's not Jewish."

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

HAHAHAHA

I hate it when I get an unexpected octogenarian.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

not all sandwiches need cheese. Deli doesn't necessarily need cheese. Witness:

http://static.flickr.com/82/258103297_04f43a4a29.jpg

Pastrami stands alone, I think, on rye with hot mustard. Same with corned beef. Roast beef can have a little cheese, ok. Ham demands cheese.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

what did Paula Deen do, Jenny?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

It was like Mad Libs up in that midterm. Unbelievable.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

goddammit, Kenan. STILL SO HUNGRY YOU GUYS!!!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

sorry. :(

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

Who's Paula Deen?

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

She's talking to a fucking pork chop. And she's making "sunny sunshine cake" for our troops, to whom she is very grateful for the free country in which we live.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

no, I mean, it's okay, that's a beautiful sandwich, but it's not in my hands!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

http://pauladeen.com/http/images/other/opening_flash_endpix.jpg

― Jenny, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

I'm guessing, based on that post, someone on the Food Network? Actually, that's a good guess for most celebrities I've never heard of.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

she has the crazy eyes in that picture.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

Karla and Jose weeding to religion halal god.

This sounds vaguely prophetic and frightening.

I don't know if mayo is kosher or not, but it's just so...white? It's kind of the opposite of pastrami on rye. I don't know, I never ate it before college (another discussion I think we've had before).

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

She's a completely fucking insane woman with a cooking show on the food network. She makes good looking southern food and drinks melted butter and talks to pork chops.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

okay, but that makes her sound awesome, Jenny.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

LOOK AT HER EYES.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

paula deen is KRAZY EYEZ KILLAH

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

She just said, "Wow kabow!" About a cake. Also, she genders her food, as in "Look at how light and fluffy he is. He's just kind of jiggling on this plate." Also about the cake.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

i keep staring at the sandwich Kenan posted and trying to will it into my life.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know if mayo is kosher or not, but it's just so...white?

No need for the question mark, my friend. The History of White People in America showed that the typical American family has several jumbo-sized jars of mayo in the fridge, one for each family member.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

Any regular on that channel who isn't named Mario Batali, Masaharu Morimoto, or Alton Brown is an assclown IMO. They've started doing meta-shows about their stars... "Cheftography". WTF, most of those people are NOT CHEFS.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.getswayzee.com/crazyeyez.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

Also, she genders her food

A couple of years ago, I was sitting in Cafe Selmarie with a cup of coffee, and within a span of like 10 minutes, two people came in and, gesturing at the pastries behind the counter, said "I'll have one of those guys."

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

JAYMC YOU HAVE ALREADY TOLE US THAT FACTIOD.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

Oh man, Kenan, that made my afternoon thus far.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

not that factiod

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

the one about mayo

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

you know what really blows me away is that rachael ray DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO COOK. It's amazing to watch the woman. Hipnotic, even, the gleeful ineptitude.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

Which one? I've probably told both of those!

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

mayo

and yes she does know how to cook, just not to your exacting standards, mr boloney sandwich

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

OIC

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

it's like watching Kevin Smith try to direct a movie.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I'll back up Rachel on the cooking knowledge. All the pre-cut this and EVOO that gets really annoying, and fuck her stupid talk show... but she can actually put together some dishes. The Iron Chef where she paired up with Batali was really kind of surprising.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

whatever, the woman is a scourge, i have to stick by that

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

MY SANDWICHES NEED CHEESE.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, if she doesn't know how to cook then I don't either. And I'm pretty sure that I can cook as well as any untrained bozo with a chef's knife.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

I like Rachels recipies. We've made several and they have been tasty.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

nay, better.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

gesturing at the pastries behind the counter, said "I'll have one of those guys."

Were they ladyfingers?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

What kind of cheese would match with pastrami anyway?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

nothing really matches, I guess, but the swiss was fine. argh. I so want a do-over of that sandwich.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

I've never had pastrami. Swiss?

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

I should have ordered a reuben.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

no cheese can stand up to something as salty and fatty as pastrami, i don't think.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

Whatever, Kenan, do you have anything in your refrigerator besides a box of baking soda and a PBR tallboy?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

why can't I shut up about delicious sandwiches that are not available to me right this second?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

Were they ladyfingers?

roffle

― jaymc, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

reubens are good! also an obvious exception to the cheese on salted, cured meats rule.

("rule")

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

HORSESHOE GOTO JERRY'S

(sometime, maybe not today)

http://www.jerryssandwiches.com/

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

reuben=my all-time favorite sandwich. platonic ideal.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

yay I will, Dan!!! not today because I'm getting dinner in a matter of hours. wtf is wrong with me?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, I am a lover of sensual pastrami but this is enough to put me off meat for a week. It's eating that helpless little piece of bread!

http://www.guyarts.com/pastrami-4eg.jpg

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

Whatever, Kenan, do you have anything in your refrigerator besides a box of baking soda and a PBR tallboy?

I have juice and soy milk as well, i'll have you know. :)

Yeah, there is a real difficulty with me and cooking right now, in that I cannot get my stove gas turned on unless I pony up $600 for gas that I never used to begin with, from that old deathtrap apartment. I lived without heat most of the winter, but the gas for the whole rest of the building was billed to me. It's kind of fucked up. But I digress.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

there is something really pornographic about that image. :(

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

(I am sorry if I am grossing out vegetarians, by the way!)

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

oh, that sucks, Kenan! is it people's gas? can they be reasoned with?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, but if that gas bill were worked out you would give RR a run for her money, eh?

Hmph. Whatever dude. The arbiter of taste has spoken.

Is that pyramid of meat supposed to be a sandwich? Yuck.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

Jerry's menu is interesting. The sandwiches are named, but really mundanely. "Eric B." It's like Memento. "The sandwich's name is John G. Find him and kill him."

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

ps yes it does suck about the gas bill, that much is true.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

I am very surprised at the love for RR I am hearing here. I can't stand the woman.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

it doesn't seem like anyone loves her, though. all anyone said is that she can cook.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

I read a really neat article in Harper's a while back about "food porn". They involved a woman who had edited/directed/worked on (not that way) a bunch of porn movies and shoots and she commented on different aspects of FoodTV programming. It was tied into a greater thesis that people watch more and more of such programming as they cook less and less for themselves.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

i don't like her either! she's really really annoying! but she can cook. saying she can't cook is ridiculous. she can obviously cook a decent meal -- one that you would be impressed by if you ate it. i'm not saying she should own an empire, but she's not that bad.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

Just because someone is annoying doesn't mean they can't cook.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

(xpost of course)

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, Emeril is a clown but the man is a fucking master, there's no denying it.

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

i am getting testy because you sound like my dad, who sits on his g-d rocking chair and criticizes people on the food channel but never bothers to step foot in the kitchen.

meanwhile, i do not watch food channel and cook every single night.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

^^^^ THESIS CONFIRMATION

― dan m, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/memento.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

my dad: "incompetent! who is this clown?"

me: "I just made a salad with peanut-sesame dressing and soba noodles -- want some?"

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

Guy Pearce needs a sandwich, I have to say.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

that and to lay off the Miss Clairol

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

guys, which aretha franklin albums do I need besides i never loved a man, lady soul, + spirit in the dark?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

(that's what i was doing while you were busy being tired of my ass)

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute.... are you telling me this isn't a dude?

http://pauladeen.com/http/images/other/opening_flash_endpix.jpg

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

(I'm actually not a completely terrible cook, you'll be shocked to know)

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

lol @ Guy Pierce, sandwich investigator!

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

did you get a sandwich, Kevin?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

seriously, (s)he looks like (s)he probably played on the detroit lions defensive line in the mid 60s.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

no, no sandwich, although there have been some food-based emails bouncing around. i am making brownies for desert tonight. or maybe lemon bars. but probably brownies since i only have to buy sugar for that and not lemons, sugar, powdered sugar, and something with which to grate the lemon peel.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

brownies are better anyway.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

i think (s)he just stepped out of the world according to garp or something.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

i think it is that very artificial angle at which her head is cocked.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

re:Aretha -- check out some of her gospel records.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

brownies are better anyway.

otm but i've already made them and i want to try something new. that's my main point in my recent cooking/baking experiments/adventures.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

oh, cool! I find baking experiments very soothing. what else have you cooked/baked?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

if not gospel (if you're like me, songs about jesus can get ooky after a little while), check out Soul '69.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

you need the first atlantic record. the shit on columbia before that was mersh pap.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

I love gospel, so maybe I should get Amazing Grace? what is the first Atlantic record?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

Get Aretha Live at the Fillmore West.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

I thought the first Atlantic record was I Never Loved a Man? which I have. maybe I will get Amazing Grace + Live at the Fillmore West.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

[]oh, cool! I find baking experiments very soothing. what else have you cooked/baked?
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a lot of poultry. all sorts of bird. jenny's chicken soup, i still haven't gotten around to making amanda's chili (i have all the ingredients and the recipe but i never have beer and ground beef in my house at the same time). i made meatballs this weekend and cooked them in an awesome bbq/grape jelly sauce (everything is better w/bbq sauce). after i get back from new york i'm going to try my hand at making pies.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

fuck.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

I think I Never Loved a Man is the first Atlantic record. (?)

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

xpost, obv

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

mmmm, pies!

I Never Loved a Man is indeed the Atlantic debut, so I will get Amazing Grace + Live at the Fillmore West. thanks, guys!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

never loved a man the way i love you. i think rhino re-issued it. it's all-star top to bottom, chips moman on guitar, spooner oldham and dan penn writing and producing.

also, unforgettable, her tribute to dinah washington is pretty f'ing awesome. more blues, less soul than her later stuff, less calculated show tunes than her previous stuff.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever even heard her Columbia stuff.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

You guys are ridiculous. over 50 posts in 15 minutes? And where are you when I need you?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

dreaming of sandwiches, obv!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

classic or dud: when "Coat of Many Colors" comes on on your iTunes party shuffle and you get all choked up and distracted from sandwich-dreaming.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

I'm tired of the working. The end is in sight.

I'd like to switch my schedule around and be off tomorrow night so that I could do trivia.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

you need a vacation, Jesse! are you going to have one for real?

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

But work's been so fruitful and I have goals!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

also, re: 50 posts in 15 minutes, I had a lot of coffee today, guys. shocker, I'm sure.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever even heard her Columbia stuff.

a lot of people didn't, that's why she was $80,000 in debt to columbia by 1966. jerry wexler thought she had been handled wrong by columbia so he bought out her contract, took her to muscle shoals and they cut that first single. then they brought the moman, penn, oldham, donnie fritts, and the horn section to nyc to finish the record.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

I don't understand this "work ethic" people have.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

man, I just love the place name "Muscle Shoals." so awesome and beautiful and weird.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

the first single being "respect", i assume?

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

I think the first single was "I never loved a man the way that I love you." (most times I've ever typed that title in a day for sure!)

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

What I need is a massage. I've never had a real massage.

I've said it before, but I want to say it again because it's kind of crazy--I've had 2 days off since the 3rd. I am off on Saturday and I forced myself to take off Friday too so that I could have off 2 days in a row. But I feel guilty when I think about not working.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

a massage while on vacation!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

in nw alabama, about 150 miles ese of memphis, tn. due west of huntsville.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

Soon enough my Latin work ethic will re-emerge as the dominant one and the German will be put down for a nap.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

I heard King Curtis Live at the Fillmore West before the Aretha record, and that's basically her band doing a mostly instrumental opening set. Bernard Purdie, Billy Preston, all these studio dudes doing Led Zep and Stevie Wonder jams.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

a massage while on vacation!

horseshoe on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 4:12 PM (49 seconds ago)
in nw alabama, about 150 miles ese of memphis, tn. due west of huntsville.

chicago kevin on Tuesday, March 20, 2007 4:12 PM (23 seconds ago)

I choose to read these as related.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

Can't. Keep. Up. With. Thread.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

sorry, Sarah! coffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to see David Sedaris at the Chicago Thtr on Easter Sunday.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

i need claritin and a sandwich.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

Gross. Somone is drinking tea that smells like cloves. Fucking gross.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

Bye Chicago. Time to work.

Me chinese, me play joke....

― Jesse, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

Me confused. What are you talking about, Jesse?

Today has been DUMB. I'm so glad I'm leaving in 10 minutes. I mean, work has been dumb, not you fine folk.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

I just burned good by an old ex that I sent a myspace friend request to. She wrote me back with the subject line, "Really?" and the message was only, "I find that rather odd." Hoooo-kay. Tell you what, I'm just going to leave you alone. Here I was assuming that "myspace friend" is the absolute smallest amount of commitment you can have to another person.

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

I just listened to a little of the Arcade Fire and I don't get it at all. Boring melodies, boring lyrics.

Rachel Ray + Alanis + Me + Weekend in Vegas = ?

― Eazy, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

FUNZONE

― kenan, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

I haven't heard the new AF album. I didn't especially like their last album - didn't hate it, but didn't love it either. However, I will say I was impressed by their SNL performance. They seemed very intense in a genuine way. And dude smashed his guitar. Which usually seems lame but he pulled it off.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:05 (eighteen years ago)

I got that Amy Winehouse album, they didn't have any of the other stuff I wanted (well, they had LCS Soundsystem but I want to hear a little of that first).

It's one thing to sample old r&b/soul records for hip-hop beats, but it seems weird to do it for an actual throwback soul album. I like that she swears a lot, though.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 00:15 (eighteen years ago)

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 05:06 (eighteen years ago)

what? i didn't say that. i mean i didn't say that NOW.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 05:07 (eighteen years ago)

me chinese. ME FUCKING CHINEEEEEESSE!!

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 05:24 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/147/428724845_314b4f5ebf.jpg?v=0

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 05:29 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/175/428724349_950c2b5520.jpg?v=0

WTF. Could I look ANY WORSE?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 05:30 (eighteen years ago)

This morning I saw a CTA worker standing with his leg up against the third rail. Then he walked over it as the train approached. So I got down and licked it and it felt like a 9 volt battery.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 06:05 (eighteen years ago)

Dear Chicago,
Pls to make 1,000,000 less stupid drivers. My commute time should not be tripled due to a light rain.

Love,
Me

P.S. Good morning Chilxors.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

I emailed this to some of you last night...

Did you know about Ridefinder? It shows the location of taxi cabs on the road in real time.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

Happy Wednesday, Chicago!

http://myspace-017.vo.llnwd.net/00406/71/09/406529017_m.gif

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

Dr. Huxtable makes everything better.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

We need a gif of him dancing.

Chicago, I'm wearing a sunshiney yellow today. BASK IN MY GLOW! DO IT!

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

Fine....

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

This is as close as I could get

(x-post)

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

Good try, Jon. :-D

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

Hey guys-
New Chicagoean here. Is this the cool kids table?

― Devin King., Wednesday, 21 March 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

Welcome.

Tell us a little about Devin King.

And give me your lunch money.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

I'm the coolest guy around, my mom told me so!

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

I had to pick up my mom's cat from the vet this morning. They injected him with a bunch of fluid under the skin for him to absorb, so it's like it's got a fake breast flopping around on his shoulder.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

Hahaha, we're not cool.

Drinking during the week is killing me. I went out for drinks with co-workers last night, and we didn't leave until 10:30. I only avoided a hangover because I was assiduous with the water-drinking once I got home.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

hi Devin.

me too, John. I have a hangover. it's Wednesday. this is no way to live.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

(I didn't go to the Field Music show because it was sold out. I was going to buy a ticket yesterday, but I checked the Empty Bottle website at 6:30 and it didn't say SOLD OUT, so I thought I'd be okay. That'll teach me. I've been really lazy about buying tickets lately.)

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

I thought it may sell out, since Menomena was headlining.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

I know. Menomena didn't sell out when we opened for them, but people seem to be going nuts for this new record.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

Hahaha, we're not cool.

Speak for yourself, nerdlinger.

Hi there, Devin.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

Menomena! I have to put that on my list. I hear very good things, but just haven't thought to snatch it.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

*adds to list*

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

The best thing about Menomena is that their first album, I Am the Fun Blame Monster, is an anagram for "the first Menomena album."

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

I hope that's not the best thing!

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

I have not been impressed by any of their songs that I have heard. The big deal about them is that they assemble their songs from samples of themselves playing their instruments, but the thing is, you can tell. The songs are disjointed in an unpleasant way, and you can totally see the seams.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

Uh...all I've got is this bag of cheetos. But I can bring you a quarter tomorrow, I swear!

I moved here from Boston in January for the writing program at SAIC. Because of various costs, I'm living out in the suburbs with some friends of the family, but the small amount of tooling around I've done outside school has been seeing Lindstrom at the Funky Buddha Lounge, checking out the Green Lantern Gallery in Wicker Park, and a very long night involving Tequila tasting in the loop somewhere, followed by mv+ee at the Empty Bottle.

So yeah. That's a quick round up.

― Devin King., Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

I've got a poker hangover. No alcohol involved, but a short night of sleep and pockets are a little lighter.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

Now I kind of want to hear it. It seems like if you're going to do that you should make it really obvious and creative, otherwise it's a fine line between sampling yourself and pro-tooling your shit together.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

hm. Sounds interesting, actually, if not pleasant. Now I HAVE to check it out.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

I only had one beer last night, but I have a chicken wing hangover.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

xpost Jordan and I think alike. :)

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

Hello, Devin King. Writing school at the SAIC is the good life.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

No, that's what I'm trying to say ... those tools could be used in an interesting way, but I don't think Menomena succeeded in doing so.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

NO ... DON'T ... LISTEN ... TO ... THEM!

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

You'll recover.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

At this dinner on Monday night, one of my friends there made a passionate defense of Laura Brannigan's "Gloria" as great pop music. I don't know if he's right, but now I've got the damn song stuck in my head all week.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

in my head now, too, Eric!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

I'm kinda interested in how the production was put together on that Amy Winehouse record. Some of it is obviously old samples, but there are a lot of live musician credits in the booklet and it all sounds pretty seamless. I only know Salaam Remi from Nas records but he seems like a serious dude.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

The word "Menomena" makes me think of this ridiculous children's TV show theme from when I lived in Australia. It was all nonsensical, and the same sort of sound started off the song.

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

I kinda wish I had gotten the LCD record though, because I can already tell that I'm going to put three tracks on my ipod and then not listen to the cd much.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

i went to club foot then rainbo last night. head hurts today. i lost (as in dropped) about $30 at either of those two places or somewhere in between. or from rainbo to my house. it doesn't really matter where i guess, the gist of it is that i had it, didn't spend it, yet still came home without it.

devin, where in boston did you live? i spent a fair amount of time there.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

"Mah Nà Mah Nà" is a well-known pop music song, written by Piero Umiliani. It was a hit in many countries, including the USA, in 1968–1969. The song's lyrics contain no actual words, only nonsense words resembling scat singing. The original version interpolates melodies from "Swedish Rhapsody" ("Midsommarvaka" ("Midsummer Vigil")) by Hugo Alfvén, "Santa Lucia", "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy", the jazz standard "Lullaby of Birdland", and others.

"Mah Nà Mah Nà" debuted as part of Umiliani's soundtrack for the Italian softcore pornography movie Svezia, Inferno e Paradiso (Sweden, Heaven and Hell) (1968), a pseudo-documentary film about wild sexual activity and other behavior in Sweden ("Mah Nà Mah Nà" accompanied a scene set in a sauna). A soundtrack album, "Svezia, Inferno e Paradiso" was released in 1968. The movie was also released under the English title Sweden Heaven and Hell.

In 1969, Henri Salvador recorded a variation titled "Mais Non, Mais Non" ("But No, But No"), with lyrics he had written in French to Umiliani's tune.

The song became familiar to many from its renditions by the Muppets on national television. On November 30, 1969, "Mahna Mahna" was performed on the The Ed Sullivan Show by a Muppet also known as Mahna Mahna, and the Snowths. Also in 1969, "Mahna Mahna" was performed on Sesame Street by a character that was later known as Bip Bipadotta, along with two Anything Muppet girls.

Huh, I assumed it originated on the Muppet show.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

GLORIA! I think they've got your number! I think they've got the alias!* That you've been living UUUUUUNDERRRRRR!

You don't have to answer. Leave them hanging on the line.

*I always thought she said "area," as in "area code," but a search of the lyrics suggests that I was wrong wrong wrong.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

wow!

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

xpost ... or was it?

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

I would like to see this "pseudo-documentary film".

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

My co-worker Katie's friend last night was extolling the virtues of Amy Winehouse. She made me listen to a couple of songs from her iPod shuffle. I said, "Wait, how are you cueing it up?" She said she just kept pressing skip until she got to an Amy Winehouse song. I forget that the shuffle only holds like 20 songs.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

What's that damn commercial that has "Every Day is A Winding Road" in it? The commercial is on every ten minutes, it seems, so I get it stuck in my head every ten minutes, which should be considered cruel and unusual.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

thanks jenny.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

The Prince version of that song is awesome.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't even know there was a Prince version!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

Want.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

Wait... a Prince version of what song? Gloria or Winding Road or Muppets?

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

Winding Road. It's on Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

a lyric search of Gloria confuses me. What is the errant behavior Gloria is involved in, and what is the singer imploring her to do instead? It's all very muddy.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

OH. I am less excited about a Prince version of Winding Road as I have an irrational Cheryl Crow hate that I think not even Prince can remedy.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm not feeling the Crow, either, which is why that commercial is mad sand in my vagina.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

Cheryl Crow gets the GAS FACE

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

I don't like her either, but it would be a grave mistake to underestimate what Prince can do with a song.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

I started assembling a "best-of the first quarter of 2007" mix the other day, but then when I listened to it it kind of sucked. I am limiting myself to the length of an audio cd, which meant I had to cut stuff (goodbye Times New Viking, for example), and since it's so rock-centric, it's hard for me to fit any electronic music on there without totally disrupting the flow (goodbye the Field, Pole). Still, I'm hammering it out and will hopefully make it available to those who are interested. I might just give up worrying about flow.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

SHERYL CROW people

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

Listening to the 4 songs on Amy Winehouse's myspace page.

"Back to Black": After hearing Holly Golightly last week and now this, I wonder if the Spector girl-group (aren't the Pipette's like this too) is going to be the garage rock of 2007. Not bad, but almost too good of an homage - makes me want to listen to the songs it's imitating.

"I'm No Good" is such a Chipotle song (and I love Chipotle).

"Rehab": Something about those claps takes away from the live-ness of the performance. Production too Beck-y for me (the layers of production sound pasted together in a distracting way).

"I Heard Love Is Blind": Bet this is good live. Bet I'd like all of these more in performance. This song reminds me of the internet cafe on Barry just off of Broadway, where they're always playing the XM "Chill" channel, which is nonstop Dido and Mutations and all of these songs that are depressed but lush.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

[image]http://www.costumedogs.com/images/03-14-2006.jpg[/i]

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

Though now I'm listening to the TNV album and reconsidering my decision.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

(addendum: "I'm No Good" is such a Chipotle song, and I will enjoy it at Chipotle.)

― Eazy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

Nick, I would very much like a copy of that, whatever else you decide.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

Damn. That makes me want Chipotle.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

Is Holly Golightly new, though?

Prince's version of Joni's "A Case of You" is not that good.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

Instead, I will be having tomato soup and a side salad with roasted garlic crackers.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

Has anyone checked out the new Adult. yet? I'm liking it.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

Also, new Ponys. A whole lot of good records came out yesterday!

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

I've heard the Ponys album, it's not bad, but I've never really heard their other stuff so I don't know how it stacks up.

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, yesterday was not good on my wallet. Even with cashing in two gift certificates I still managed to spend $35 on new tunes. Ted Leo, El-P, J Dilla, Ponys, Panda Bear, LCD, Andrew Bird... loads of good stuff.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

OK. Well there's still another week in Q1 2007 so it'll be at least that long until it's ready.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

I'm curious if anyone downloaded the song I put on the nu-chilx blog the other night, and if so, your opinions. That band has really been stuck in my head the past few weeks.

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

I might give Ponys another try, but the one time I heard them, a few years ago, I found them unbearable.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

Of course you did, John! hee hee :-D

I like them, but I miss 1AN's vox. He was the glue.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

No one has bid on my ebay dress! FRACKERS!

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

I love hot, sticky rain weather. I just poked my head out the door and took a deep breath. Aaahhhh... yes.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

Which one is it, Sarah?

― Eazy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

The dress? It's just one I bought on ebay that didn't look the best on me.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

Your bid doesn't end for almost 5 days ... be patient.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

WHY I OUGHTTAA!

I have had alot of sugar & liquid this morning and nothing of substance.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah, have you sold on eBay before? People don't start bidding till nearer to the end of the auction. If you want I will place a bid to get the ball rolling.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

The one and only time I ever put anything on eBay it had no bids until about 2 hours before the end time, and then they more than tripled my reserve price with bids. So, that was good.

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

Does that hurt anyone's ethics?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

WHY I OUGHTTAA!

I found this extremely funny.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

that's a really pretty dress, Sarah. why are you selling it?

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

It'd be pretty funny if you ended up with her dress

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

No thanks, Jesse. I'll wait and see what happens. Unless.. are we the same size?

I haven't sold anything on ebay since college, when I sold a bunch of cds and lost money thanks to understimating postage.

Speaking of losing money, I need to take a walk between Club Foot and Rainbo tonight, Nick. Wanna come?
That sucks, Kevin.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

I wouldn't BUY the fucker. But it would suck if I won because then Sarah would have to pay the seller's fees. I think she could always re-list it (does that need a hyphen?).

What is the reserve price on it?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

Why are you selling the dress? It's pretty?

I need to sell a bunch of shit on eBay and Amazon.

Books, CDs, DVDs, leather pants, green Doc martens.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

(strike that 2nd "?")

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

L., it is very pretty in person too! I just felt - as I relayed in my listing and probably shouldn't have - it was too high-waisted on me. It looked like I was wearing a gorgeous dress, but I was.. making it look bad?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

The reserve is $25. I don't know. I paid @$50 for it so thought I should at least try for $25. I could relist it if I need to, or try selling it on craigslist.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

Let me bid on it! I really want it!

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

I understand that. you don't want to look like the dress is wearing you.

I'm sure tons of people will bid on it, honestly. it's gorgeous.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

Then I can leave hilarious feedback.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

Do you know what really bugs me?
OH PLEASE TELL US.
I hate having to input my password for anything online. It's a pain in the ass. I always without fail forget my password, spend a while trying to find it in old emails, and end up having to reset it.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of losing money, I need to take a walk between Club Foot and Rainbo tonight, Nick. Wanna come?
That sucks, Kevin.

starting from club foot, walk on the north side of augusta to damen; walk up damen on the east side of the street to division. at division go to the chase atm but don't go inside (i was smoking while N withdrew $$$). walk the south side of division, cross damen, and enter rainbo.

it was the first time in a long time that i was in there and it wasn't packed.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

I think I'd really like that place if it wasn't always packed.

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

Sometimes you have to say fuck everything, I'm having a pico de gallo burger + fries for lunch.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

I hear you Sarah. What makes this a problem is that different sites have different criteria for their passwords, so I do variations on my across the board standard password (instead of 1234abc I will have to do 1234accd) which confuses me more than having a completely different password.

To make things worse, I have slight variations in my username too jesseck and jesseck1 for example.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

Club Foot still has a pinball machine, doesn't it?

― Eazy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan's post has me drooling, that sounds like an excellent lunch. Too bad I'm stuck out here in suburbia and get to choose between McDonald's, Subway, or Jimmy John's. Well, I suppose I can drive a bit and go to Chipotle.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

yes it does eazy, right next to the tetris game.

right now i'm eating the brownies i made last night. they're pretty fucking good if i do say so myself. better than the last batch but i'm not sure what i did different.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

Pico de gallo burger? Is the pico on top? That sounds watery. I am dubious.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

I have the boringest lunch of all ... peanutbutter+honey sandwich and pretzels. I feel like I'm 8 years old.

I think when I get home I might make potato leek soup so that I have something fun to eat for lunch tomorrow.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

jimmy john's ain't a bad option, considering.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

CONSIDERING ALL THE STARVING PEOPLE IN AFRICA

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

There is cheese on top of the burger, and pico on top of that. The pico is a little watery but not too much, and the cheese provides a relatively stable foundation.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

There is peanut butter on top of the bread, and honey on top of that. The honey is gooey but not too much, and the peanut butter provides a relatively stable foundation.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

HI I AM ANNOYING

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

I love watching the cafeteria cycle of life in action. Today, cheeseburgers. Tomorrow, cheeseburger soup.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

BIZARRO I'M HELPING, BIZARRO I LOVE YOU

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

You know what I hate? When the honey gets on the bread and turns all crystalized. It ruins the whole texture profile with an unpleasant soggy near-crunch. GODTHATMAKESMEMAD

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

man, jimmy john's beach club on wheat, with avacado and sprouts... that's a fine sandwich.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, Jimmy John's wins out too often. Problem with this area is that there are far, far too many places for upper management types to gather and take thier clients for lunch and very, very few quick, cheap, and good lunch type places.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

my favorite sandwich might be pb & banana on wheat.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

When folks get jimmyjohns at my office, they prefer THE SKINNY. I laugh at THE SKINNY.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

Today, cheeseburgers. Tomorrow, cheeseburger soup.

This would be a good t-shirt. A spinoff of Jenny's sandwich t-shirt.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

too much Chili's and Appleby's, not enough Mr. Delicious Greaseman. I understand.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

You know what I hate? When the honey gets on the bread and turns all crystalized.

I enjoy this.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

xpost to jon

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

BIG NEWS IN PEANUT BUTTER

First off, I really hate that natural peanut butter. Besides the seperated oil, I don't like the taste or texture--it's overly rustic. But last night I tried Simply Jif which is very smooth peanut butter that doesn't seperate, and which contains very little malarky--no corn syrup, etc. I had been buying low fat PB because it's lower in calories, but then I see that the Simply stuff has the exact same calorie count.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

The skinny is ridiculous, because they don't take off the meat, they take off the veggies and the condiments! WTF??? I know we've talked about this before. I guess it's like the Jimmie John's equivalent of the dollar menu.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

I enjoy this.

We're not like sisters.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

Someone remind me of Jenny's sandwich T-shirt.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

OTM, natural pb sucks, low fat pb tastes like chalk

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

Someone remind me of Jenny's sandwich T-shirt.

Wasn't it I FUCKING LIKE SANDWICHES?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

Do you guys mean the Plain Slims? Yeah, those things are hilarious. Meat and bread. A spartan, unfriendly, almost surly version of a sandwich.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

I like ultra supremo xtreme crunch pb.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

Btw in case anyone was wondering, my broken link upthread was a picture of a dog in a Darth Vader costume.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

Also, they cut out the inside of the bread on the SKINNYs to make them less carby or some crap but I love bread.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

"Grr. No mustard! You don't deserve mustard! And tomato? Who do you think you are, bub?"

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

OTM, natural pb sucks, low fat pb tastes like chalk

See, I didn't mind the low fat stuff, but the natural--blech. I grew up eating this shit and when I moved out on my own and bought my first jar of Skippy, I was in heaven.

I don't mind the skinny sandwiches (at Potbelly anyway) because I like the bread to insides ratio better that way. I like bread too, but sometimes a sub is too breadful.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

Doesn't JJ's cut out the bread, anyway? I remember Kelsey always used to tell the sandwich-makers to keep the bread in.

I know someone who, whenever he orders from JJ's, gets like three Plain Slims because it's a better value that way or something. Could be, but I actually enjoy lettuce and tomato and mayo.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

Which is the main reason I hate Quizno's.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

My friend Michele (who came to Galway for trivia) just put up this photo of her cat. It's like ready-made for the internets...

[image]http://www.sisuphoto.com/window.jpg[/images]

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

sigh

http://www.sisuphoto.com/window.jpg

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

I thought they always did that, so the sandwich can close and form a sleek submarine shape w/all the toppings?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

hey what time is trivia @ galway arms?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

"I'm in ur blindz, scaling ur windoze."

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

That cat looks like a dumbed down version of my cat.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

I grew up eating this shit and when I moved out on my own and bought my first jar of Skippy, I was in heaven.

Me too! I would have cut a dude for some Jif as a kid.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

A spartan, unfriendly, almost surly version of a sandwich.

I get the plain slims. I've always liked spartan sandwiches. I don't like goo.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

SPAAAARRRRTAAAAAAAA!!!! SAAAAAAANDWHIIIIIIIICHEEEEEEESSSSS!

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:19 (eighteen years ago)

Do you guys mean the Plain Slims? Yeah, those things are hilarious. Meat and bread. A spartan, unfriendly, almost surly version of a sandwich.

That almost sounds good, or would if it had cheese. Kind of rustic (word of the day, apparently).

It reminds me of a scene in Twin Peaks in which the hotel owner has a friend over who has just flown in from France and has a brie sandwich in his luggage.

He picked one up and started to unroll it. "Brother Ben, this is the best dam sandwich I ever ate. It's a baguette, with brie and butter. I had four of these damn things every day I was there. You gotta try this."

Ben's eyes lit up as he looked across the table at the sandwich. He waved his brother over and Jerry handed him the sandwich. "Here. Go ahead, eat it. Go ahead...go ahead," he said excitedly, bouncing back to the stack of sandwiches. He unrolled himself one as Ben sniffed the food and said, "Oh, yeah."

Ben took one side of the sandwich, and bit into the bread. Overjoyed, Ben said, "Mmmmm..." with a slight bit of laughter in his voice. He took another bite, this time larger while Jerry sat down at the blazing fireplace.

"Uhm, this is incredible, Jerr." He took another bite, this time even bigger. Sylvia shook her head, embarrassed. She covered her eyes as the two men talked between themselves.

"You know what this reminds us of," Ben said.

"Mmm?" his brother asked.

With his mouth food, Ben barely got out the words, "Remember when we were kids."

"Mm." Jerry took another bite.

"It reminds us of Jeanne and Jenny down by the river. Do you remember? Hmm?"

For a split second Jerry had to search his memory banks but then pulled up a steamy picnic when the two boys were in high school. They had taken Jenny and Jeanne out to Pearl Lakes for a picnic high up in the mountains. They found a nice out of the way spot where they laid out a blanket and started eating sandwiches the girls had made for the picnic. They had been delicious and soon led to something even more delicious. They pulled out a few bottles of alcohol and before long, the four teens were skinny dipping in the lake.

"My God, you're right!"

Ben replied, "Am I right? Am I right? Hmmm?"

Jerry laughed. "No wonder."

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)

I lurve goo.

Also I much prefer natural peanut butter, prolly because my peanut butter experience went backwards -- I was fed the smoothest, sugariest pb my mom could find when I was little, and was ecstatic to find out that there was more than one kind of pb in the world.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.kcchronicle.com/content/articles/2007/03/08/lifestyle/movies/film/doc45f0ae100e6f7701611907.jpg

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)

My dad was big into natural foods. He made (or had my mom make) pie crust with whole wheat. Now when I say whole wheat I want you to understand that he milled this at home (my mom still has the grinder) and it had ALL of the bran. It wasn't just brown and sort of hearty--it was gross.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

Is that a novelization of Twin Peaks?

I was just thinking that I would like to watch that series again. At first I was daunted by the prospect of watching all 26(?) episodes, but then I realized that I don't have to do it the way I did it the first time, when I watched all of them within like a week or two. I could watch it like I watched Lost or Arrested Development -- i.e., an episode per night, before bed.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

Also, Kr has never seen any David Lynch, and I figure it's a good place to start.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

"It reminds us of Jeanne and Jenny down by the river. Do you remember? Hmm?"

For a split second Jerry had to search his memory banks but then pulled up a steamy picnic when the two boys were in high school. They had taken Jenny and Jeanne out to Pearl Lakes for a picnic high up in the mountains. They found a nice out of the way spot where they laid out a blanket and started eating sandwiches the girls had made for the picnic. They had been delicious and soon led to something even more delicious. They pulled out a few bottles of alcohol and before long, the four teens were skinny dipping in the lake.

Huh. In the TV show itself none of the 2nd paragraph is available to the viewer, so I always understood that the smell of the cheese, butter, and bread reminded the guys of Jenny and Jeanne's pussies.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, Jesse.

lol @ cat burglar

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

brie tastes like brie. pussy tastes like pussy. and if you're lucky, never the twain shall meet.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

pussy that tastes like bread = one hell of a yeast infection. "I'm telling you man, there were loaves up in there!"

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

aaaaand scene.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.pbfcomics.com/archive/PBF214-Hard_Read.jpg

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

Truffles, on the other hand...

― Eazy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

Is that a novelization of Twin Peaks?

I guess it is. It's from twinpeaksgazzette.com. IT INCLUDES TWIN PEAKS AND QUANTUM LEAP SLASH FICTION.

So the 2nd paragraph is just this guy's addition (with not much regard for perspective, I think).

So I stand by my first idea. The brothers are being crude, taking deep sniffs, the smell reminding them of Jeanne and Jenny. In the show it is the smell, not the taste that reminds Ben of the girls.

I would say that there are some parallels between the smell of cheese, butter, and bread and the smell of sex (male of female): they are both rich and tangy, and sensual.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

Season 2 of Twin Peaks is STILL not available on legitimite DVD, by the way.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

I think Blue Velvet would be a good starting place for Lynch.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

I heard it's coming out real soon, though?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

isn't it about to be, though?

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

If Kr has any aversion to sadistic id characters, then start with Mulholland Drive or, you know, The Straight Story.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

I find a lot of parallels between food and drink and sex.

In Tom Robbins' Jitterbug Perfume a character is said to be "hiccuping the mushroom scent of his spurt ." Semen smells and tastes nothing like mushrooms (not to gross anyone out, but I had a boyfriend who tasted of cucumbers. ALSO--it is NOT EVER salty! I hate it when people say that it is) but this is OTM anyway.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

I would say that there are some parallels between the smell of cheese, butter, and bread and the smell of sex (male of female): they are both rich and tangy, and sensual.

Yeah, I can totally see that.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

I regret parts of that post.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

I cum across poorly in it.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

I like my women rich, tangy, and sensual.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

I think season 2 of Twin Peaks has been "about to come out on DVD" for like 5 years now.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

You do not, either. Cucumbers, you say? Sounds like he had a healthy diet!

I haven't checked, but I would not doubt I taste like the proverbial ashtray.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

Tang-y. Like the drink.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

I like my women like I like my coffee. In a plastic cup.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

AMAZON HAS TWIN PEAKS SEASON II SCHEDULED TO BE RELEASED APRIL 3!!!!

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

I like my women like I like my coffee--ground up and in the freezer.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

I told you!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

I like my women like I like my coffee--ground up and in the freezer.

Jesse on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:48 PM (2 seconds ago)

I told you!

horseshoe on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:48 PM (1 second ago)

Not such a bad xpost.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

That the freezer keeps women fresh is a myth. Once you grind them up, you should use them right away. That's why it's better to grind a little at a time.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

it was unfortunate.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

Rich, jangly, and consensual.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

Young Boy with Coffee: Excuse me, I happened to be passing, and I thought you might like some coffee.
Little Girl: Oh, that's very nice of you, thank you.
Young Boy with Coffee: Cream?
Little Girl: No, thank you, I take it black, like my men.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

Little girl??

Also, LOL to Kenan.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

Haven't you ever seen Airplane?

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

Oh. Not in its entirety.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

Male announcer: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in a red zone.
Female announcer: The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in a red zone.
Male announcer: The red zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in a white zone.
Female announcer: No, the white zone is for loading. Now, there is no stopping in a RED zone.
Male announcer: The red zone has always been for loading.
Female announcer: Don't you tell me which zone is for loading, and which zone is for unloading.
Male announcer: Look Betty, don't start up with your white zone shit again. There's just no stopping in a white zone.
Female announcer: Oh really, Vernon? Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion.
Male announcer: It's really the only sensible thing to do, if its done safely. Therapeutically there's no danger involved.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, do you like Gladiator movies?

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

Amazon says April 3rd for Twin Peaks

xpost no doubt

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

I've never seen a gladiator movie. Why do you ask?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

more quotes from Airplane.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

I want to get those dvds since I originally saw season 2 on really degraded VHS tapes, but it would be way weird to jump into it without watching season 1 again.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

Captain Oveur: You ever been in a cockpit before?
Joey: No sir, I've never been up in a plane before.
Captain Oveur: You ever seen a grown man naked?

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

Part of that first quote is a direct rip off from Airport, I never realized that until now.

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.wondermark.com/comics/282.gif

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

Randy: Excuse me sir, there's been a little problem in the cockpit…
Striker: The cockpit…what is it?
Randy: It's the little room in the front of the plane where the pilots sit, but that's not important now.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

TRIVIA IS TONIGHT AT 8 PM

TONIGHT AT 8 PM IS TRIVIA

COME ONE, COME ALL

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

The first time someone posted that cartoon I had to sit on my hands not to respond "Perhaps the problem is expecting girls to look like goddamn boys in the first motherfucking place? Try women, dear." because it would look catty and defensive. But I can't resist twice.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

A PLEASANT BOYISHNESS? OMG WTF ETC

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

nope, still sounds catty and defensive. :)

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

I've never thought that dude hipsters look like women. They just look like really shitty dudes.

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

You know, not EVERY Wondermark strip has to be posted on ILX.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

but I think that's part of the joke, Laurel! i.e. hmmm, are you sure you're into chicks?

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

I just noticed that the word bubble is coming right from his crotch on the last panel.

I have a problem with girls who look like boys. Laurel knows this. Baby dykes look like hot young guys if your contacts aren't brand new.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

The other thing that sucks about Wondermark strips being posted is they always seem to take f o r e v e r to load on refresh.

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

Considering that the posts keep coming at a good clip, that Wondermark will be lost into the middle link in no time flat.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

Laurel, that's the joke. The other dude is like, "pleasant boyishness?" because he doesn't see there can be such a thing. But see, if we get into this, we might get into gender roles a little more than I want to this afternoon, because while I much prefer a pleasant womanliness nowadays, I won't deny that I have been attracted to the boyish in the past, and such a thing certainly exists. Hell, lesbians are often attracted to outright manishness.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

In other words, don't take it personally!

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

You know, not EVERY Wondermark strip has to be posted on ILX.

I know, I know... but that one made me chuckle extra.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yes, it's deffo part of the joke! But you know, there are TONS of girls here esp among the early-twenties set who haven't got any rear view and they take all the prizes for hot, at least publicly, and whatever fashions are currently hip are always meant for that type. So I give up and go with being old and much less cutting edge.

Unfortunately Chris Rock was RIGHT last week on Conan when he said "[Anna Nicole Smith] had curves only a black man could love. White women don't even need scales, man, they know it's time to get to the gym when the brothers start paying too much attention." I may be paraphrasing slightly.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

curves r grebt

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

speaking as a man who lived with a pear-shaped woman for 5 years i will concur, hips are hot.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

:( Laurel, I think that's partly an east coast problem. the midwest is a bit more forgiving of the female form.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

New York vs Chicago, I guess! I can't help it, the Midwest is the homeland of my peasant-stock people -- plus where I come from, no one has that Eastern European shape where the weight is in the middle body and the arms and legs are slender. Here it's everywhere.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, xp.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

I often wonder what to make of the idea that it is wrong to be attracted to certain things. I mean I completely understand that it is fucked up for men to expect women to be supermodels and only want an unrealistic standard of beauty. But what if a guy is really only attracted to that type? What can he do? Just correct his ways stop being attracted to that type?

But what got me was that in a gender and culture class the professor (and the material we were reading, and the students--everyone except for me, it seemed) were decrying the term "straight-acting." A paper we read suggested that it is a sign of self-loathing amongst gay men, and called for abolishing it in singles forums.

I suggested that perhaps the term "masculine" might be more appropriate, but this was shot down, since that too was heteronormative. So now I just say that I am not attractive to swishing nelly queens. Why is that a bad thing? And what am I supposed to do? Suddenly love guys who act like parodies of pre-teen cheerleaders?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

No, Jesse, you're right, it oughtn't to be indefensible to like what you like! Which is why I'm being a giant bitch right now. But in my defense I do feel surrounded by miniskirts and leggings and thigh-not-having-ness and ARRRGH!

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

You like what you like.
Also, THE HEART WANTS WHAT THE HEART WANTS.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

i think my type is "english speaking and showing even a passing interest in me".

the english speaking part is not a deal breaker however.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

you're not being a giant bitch, though, Laurel. I don't think the issue is what individual people are into, which of course, shouldn't be policed unless they're hurting people. it's more when some disturbing groupthink seems to develop about what's attractive--something really exclusivist that seems less like individual preference and more like widespread conditioning.

this is a complicated conversation to have.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

(I went to college on the east coast, Laurel, and I know the vibe you're talking about. It's a real thing.)

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

And then the exasperating conversation that goes, "Oh, well, what does 'straight-acting' mean?" There are straight guys who act effeminate--so does that mean that femmes are also straight acting?

"And what about masculine? Masculine refers to men, and plenty of men are prissy, so why are we using the term to only refer to the dominant ones--the straight men?"

It's infuriating. You can deconstruct things till they stop existing and it's helpful only up to a point! After a certain point however it becomes an excercise in ontological onanism.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

Like.. the curvalicious eighties and the Kate Moss nineties...

Right now, I feel like short, semi-curvy women are considered attractive in our society, which sucks for me.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

heh. what society are you living in, Sarah, and how do I get there? maybe this is just about the universality of female insecurity. :(

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

Yes and you know I should REALLY know better by now and my daily life is more or less unaffected because wtf am I doing to do about it, anyway? Nothing. But I am literally brought to tears if I think too much about how value accrues to women who can get into Built by Wendy jeans. Kind of trying not to cry now. Shit.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

SARAH OBV WE MUST CHANGE PLACES COME TO NYC

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sorry, Laurel! you know, I'm not saying you need to leave New York permanently but maybe a vacation would do you good? like I said, this stuff is real.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

I am not defending heteronormativity or unrealistic ideals for female beauty on the societal level. And I think it's a good idea for everyone to deconstruct their ideas about what is masculine/feminine/beautiful/etc.

I guess I'm still nursing a beef with the Religious Studies Dept at UNCG (aka the LGBT Dept.). A lot of the guys there had huge chips on their shoulders about being sissies (a term that was actually used as a compliment, especially when referring to Jewish intellectuals).

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

Probably.
I was watching the Pussycat Dolls show last night and realized almost all of the ladies are short with tight, muscular bodies.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

(ha ha nursing a beef)

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

xpost to horseshoe

Cheer up, Laurel! I feel like anything I could say would just come off as corny...

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

Probably.
I was watching the Pussycat Dolls show last night and realized almost all of the ladies are ~~short with tight, muscular bodies~~talentless trollops.

fixed.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

True dat.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

now I'm going to be bitchy for real. Sarah, if they look anything like the pussycat dolls, then those women are totally busted.

also, Laurel, I've seen your picture in WDYLL threads, and by any reasonable standard you're quite slim. not that there's anything wrong with not being slim. but you are. it's just science.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

something something beauty, something something beholder

something something be-holdin' you

I don't know how it goes.

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, it's super annoying now too because I'm online dating again and a great many people specify that they're looking only for someone slender/petite/athletic and like fuck you, dude.

Sarah, I'm sorry it had the exact same effect on you that I'm sad about today, but I actually kind of love the Pussycat Dolls show for that reason? I saw it once, it made me happy.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

I like pleasant boyishness.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

God, having said nursing a beef, now I really want some steak BAD.

And I have a new skillet that I have been seasoning....

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

I'm online dating again and a great many people specify that they're looking only for someone slender/petite/athletic and like fuck you, dude.

ugh. this is a big reason I stopped online dating. that and 40 year old dudes looking for 20 year old women.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

It's ok. I wasn't that upset about it. I've just been noticing alot of petite ladies in pop culture these days, from pop stars like Christina Aguilera to movie stars like Kristen Bell & the Olson twins to basically every wife in every TV sitcom. I will never be petite.

That said, I enjoy being tall, especially when it comes to going to concerts.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

I do have a big beef with movies like Lost in Translation, Shop Girl, etc in which the young gorgeous girl gets together with an old, tired man and rejuvenates him. Fuck you.

(I loved LiT, btw!)

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

part of that, Sarah, might be that everyone associated with Hollywood seems to be wee. men and women. tall women rule, though.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

Me too, Jesse!

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

Why is that do you think?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

I had a date last night with a girl who is 5'0"!

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

You too what?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't take that away from Shop Girl at all. I thought the movie pretty well understood that the Steve Martin character was a bit on the manipulative side and really had no business with her.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

I honestly don't know. they are like micropeople (says the short girl)!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

It's really hard for me to imagine that there are vastly different standards for beauty from one urban area to the next, but that's partially because it's hard for me to imagine a city having a particular standard of beauty in the first place. Aren't cities made up of lots of people, with different tastes? I know you'll probably decry this as another faux-naive jaymc post, but I'm genuinely curious about this. Do I just not pay attention? Is it because I'm a man?

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

there is an east coast vibe about skinniness, I swear! I was only able to fully identify it in retrospect after I moved to Chicago.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, I'm definitely talking within a social group delimited by class and probably race a bit, too. but I do think it affects everybody.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

Maaaybe it's because you're a man... I know that I love visiting NYC but by the end of the week, every time I visit, I end up feeling like a huge FATTIECAKES 5K. This was more the case when I was 40 pounds heavier, but still... There is definitely this weird feeling there that you have to be bone thin and even more of a buttless wonder than I am.

Jesse, I was refering to you not enjoying movies in general in "which the young gorgeous girl gets together with an old, tired man and rejuvenates him. Fuck you."

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

buttless wonder=new favorite phrase!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

i lived for 25 years on the east coast, i would say, in general (and it's a BROAD generality here) that people in the midwest are a little heavier (i think it's all the cheese) than the east coast so it may be normal to be more attracted to what you see more of? does that make any sense? am i going into my post lunch coma?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

Also, when Nick and I went around visiting different cities, deciding where we wanted to live, we were both impressed by how "natural" and "real" most Chicagoans looked, which I'm sure is/was due to a combo of the larger Midwestern body type but mostly due to a relaxed feeling.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

no, I think that's right, Kevin. also the east coast doesn't=NY. NY and LA it sort of makes sense for there to be a fashion-related premium on extreme skinniness.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

and then I think the fashiony premium filters down into sex which is insidious, it seems to me.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

buttless wonder=new favorite phrase!
Also, one of my mom's nicknames for me. * eye roll *

am i going into my post lunch coma?
Did you eat alot of cheese?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

I think it's because old, tired producers get to decide which movies get made and they like this fantasy. Sure, Scarlett Jo-H gets something out of it too, and I loved the movie and thought they were great together. My problem is that there is so much of this--tired old men and gorgeous young women. Sure you have Harold and Maude and The Graduate, but these are sort of freak shows.

And John, just look at LA's reputation. I've never been, but I have it on good authority that the reputation for being blonde, fake-boob town is well-deserved. And girrrrl, let me tell you, Charlotte, NC has a stringent standard of beauty that you don't find in Chicago. Courtney can vouch for this. It's all blonde, tan, pointy shoes down there. It's like LA or NYC, but more insecure about itself.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

Did you eat alot of cheese?

turkey and provolone on wheat.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

dudes this thread is making me feel really good about Chicago.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

And compare to the Pacific NW.

Even standards of male dress and beauty are different by region.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

you're the one for me, fatty!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

Good! It is Chicago. It is food. It is normal and varied body shapes.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

this thread is making me wish tomorrow were the 29th already.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

It is dogs wearing costumes. It is kittens that has flavor.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

Uh yeah if I wanted to date black West Indian men or maybe Brooklyn Italians, I would be totally in the money! Sadly I want to date people with basically my taste in music, and, while nobody would ever be like "god you are huge and matronly, get away", those guys are way more into tall and skinny in skinny punk jeans or miniskirts and torn up leggings.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

Wait. Is that when you go to NY?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

the ex put my dog in a cowboy outfit for halloween (which is also his birthday) this past year and i will never forgive her for that. sleeping with other dudes, breaking my heart, fine, shit happens. dressing my dog in a cowboy hat and fringed vest? BLOOD VENDETTA.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

There's nothing more you can leave behind
So forget about seeing, get into your mind
Everything looks better when the world is black
Grab a fork, make the first attack
Lights out!
Poke poke, poke your eyes out
Lights out!
Put a pen in your hand, poke your eyes out
I can't see too well, what's it all about?
Well I dunno man, did you poke your eyes out?
Sure thing, I did it today, startin' to get hip to the lights out way
Lights out!
Poke poke, poke your eyes out
Lights out!
[Put yourself on the floor], roll all about
If you poke too far you reach the front of your brain
Fork in your mind can drive you insane!
Don't worry much, just let it rip, today your eyeballs do the lights out trip
Lights out!
Put a pen in your hand, poke your eyes out
Lights out!
Poke poke, poke your eyes out
Lights out!
Put an ax in your head, poke your eyes out!

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

I want to cover that song

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

Wait. Is that when you go to NY?

more to the point, IT'S WHEN I GET OUT OF CHICAGO.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

Bbut Chicago is voluptuous.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

Nick, could that be our song?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

Angry Samoans are pretty great. I've been listening to a lot of old-school punk today. 7 Seconds right now.

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

i'm just feeling the itch sarah, it seems like things are stagnating so i've got to shake it up, even if it's just for a few days.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

Do I just not pay attention?

Probably you are not paying attention. Which is not a criticism.

This reminds me--I was reading about how to build a decent wardrobe, and it was saying that if you live in the Midwest, don't make the mistake of wearing a West Coast suit b/c you'll look plain silly. Same thing for New Orleans and the North--there are few places in the country that a man can wear a white or beige linnen suit and look GREAT, but NO happens to be one of those places.

Plus think about the difference between panty hose in the North and South. Down south if you wear panty hose at your office people start asking what you dressed up for. Contrast to |WJ's office up here where they are part of the dress code.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

Angry Samoans are ~~pretty~~ great.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

god, panty hose are so stupid.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know any AS other than that song.

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

when we are talking about the general difference in sizes between cities, are we talking mainly about white girls you are likely to run into at the kinds of establishments you frequent, or just all women in general?

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

are we talking mainly about white girls you are likely to run into at the kinds of establishments you frequent, or just all women in general?

don't know about the rest of you but i am talking about women, in general, that i would be attracted to. race has less to do with it than age.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

I may have already told you this, but Courtney was telling me about how some ways that Charlotte is more stringent than NYC in its standards. In both places Coach bags are fashionable, but in NYC people buy knock-offs, but in Charlotte you have to have the real thing. It's the insecurity.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know if I was talking about actual women at all; just an ideal that's internalized.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

i think i would either love charlotte or it would kill me in two days. i don't think i could just live there and be oblivious. it would either be me revelling in tweaking the insecure or being totally crushed by their insecurities.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

It's kind of bad. There's no venue for tweaking. Except Starbucks. It's a bizarre place. There are literally ZERO non-chain places to eat or shop. Except for the independent kiosks at the mall, I suppose.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

Except for the independent kiosks at the mall, I suppose.

ok i guess it would kill me in two days then.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

Kenan, kind of both! Yes, first of all it's an ideal, but second I have DISTINCT recent memories of being at shows in MI in the last few years and even the barely post college-aged girls are hippy and sturdy there! And look like me! Whereas here rock shows are populated by skinny hipsters in skinny jeans and little layered, reconstructed tops that make them all look even skinnier and more fragile. It is real. Plus that kind of thin-ness seems to connote youth so everyone wants it, whereas I come across like someone's midd-aged MOM, which is CRAZY because why are we STILL glorifying the undeveloped when we (and our peers) are 30+?!?

Black women, however, not so much -- three years in Crown Heights taught me NOTHING if not to respect the bubble. But that is so not my scene, it doesn't really have anything to do with me.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

I feel like short, semi-curvy women are considered attractive in our society

I know they're considered attractive in MY society. And how.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

I can definitely understand how seeing a lot of people that don't look like you can make you feel self-conscious about the way you look. I don't think I've ever felt like that, but maybe I just haven't spent enough time in places like NYC or LA or Charlotte.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

Ooh! Thunder!

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

I heard it, too!

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

yay I love thunderstorms.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

IM SORRY IS IT TIME FOR MY NERVOUS BREAKDOWN ALREADY? WILL SET ALARM FOR THE NEXT ONE.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

hit snooze

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

aw man, going out tonight is going to be a damp experience

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

I'm getting a little confused with how to respond to this conversation because I don't know if this sense of feeling out of place is in relation to other women, or to potential male suitors (although I assume the answer is both).

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

i have been so consistantly disappointed by almost everyone for so long that i don't really take other's opinions about me into consideration. it's hard to take anyone seriously when almost everyone's preferences have been so discredited.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

Thunderstorms are great, though! When you get where you're going you feel so sheltered.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

aw man, going out tonight is going to be a damp experience

sounds like my...

where the hell's jenny anyway? she's the only one who laughs at that joke.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

aw Laurel. this stuff sucks. I'm sorry it's getting to you. it gets to everybody!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

Uh yeah if I wanted to date black West Indian men...

I once asked a friend of mine why it was that West Indian/Caribbean asked me out on dates so often and he said, after a moment's consideration, "You look like you could make it through a long winter." Jackass.

Plus think about the difference between panty hose in the North and South. Down south if you wear panty hose at your office people start asking what you dressed up for. Contrast to |WJ's office up here where they are part of the dress code.

Wha-a-a-a? Is that a joke? Tights, maybe, when it's cold, but I just don't see the pantyhose/WJ connection. It's a non-profit, man! Women be wearin' jeans.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

I heard that Dunkin' Donuts is giving away free iced coffee in Chicago today. Someone save one in the fridge for me, mmkay?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

We should be drinking together, because then just before Kevin gets to use that line, we could all raise a glass and chime raggedly "THAT SOUNDS LIKE MY PROM NIGHT" and it would be hilarious.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

LOL @ Kevin's prom night.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin, I think I used "sounds like my prom night" a couple weeks ago! You might have been gone or something...

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

clearly we should be drinking together!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

We should be drinking together, because then just before Kevin gets to use that line, we could all raise a glass and chime raggedly "THAT SOUNDS LIKE MY PROM NIGHT" and it would be hilarious.

Someday you will come to Chicago, and we can do exactly that. :)

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

Here is an interesting stat (that may or may not be totally accurate as she was quoting from memory and now I am quoting from my memory of her memory, so consider it representative and maybe John can verify, as he is my fact-checking cuz) that my friend Christy shared with me re: regional beauty standards and Oklahoma in particular: Something like 8% of the total US population of women use hairspray on a daily basis but 30%+ of women in OK use hairspray on a daily basis.

Also, in OK, all of us would be dangerously thin.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

"Sounds of Prom Night" might make a fun field recording.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

dude awesome I am moving to oklahoma!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

it really does get to everybody. i've been all sorts of skinny and curvy but there's always something that gets to me appearance-wise, no matter how i'm shaped. meh.

kevin, others might be laughing at that and not admitting to it.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

I like you better curvy. When I met you you were thinner, but somehow you could kinda tell that you were not the size you're meant to be.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

But we would also have many children and be confined to very narrow, stifling gender roles, not to mention victims of domestic violence (Christy said she knows of many two women in relationships whose partners don't beat them) and probably have to go to a crazy church, not to mention be totally unable to have a drink in a bar without a male escort without getting severely harassed (as I found on Saturday night) so I'll take feeling bad about my weight and living in Chicago.

Speaking of my weight and feeling bad about it, I decided to go back on Weight Watchers since my stupid suit doesn't fit again. Three cheers for counting points and self-deprivation.

*sigh*

― Jenny, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

i am a slooow poster.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

i've been all sorts of skinny and curvy but there's always something that gets to me appearance-wise, no matter how i'm shaped. meh.

ME TOO. I blame the patriarchy.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

well, obv. (re: the patriarchy)

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

i'm kinda wondering if we should have another chilxor chixor clothing exchange sometime--i was trying some things on last night and realized that i'm a different size than i thought i was.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

I was skinny (for me) before I ate that burger + fries today.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

i finally had the perfect bra for this cute cute tank top and tried on said tank top and it was not so cute anymore. cycling back toward curvy. pass the cheese.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

Mmm cheese.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

I am ready for a clothes trade!

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

Christy lost a bunch of post baby weight and handed me down some of her fat jeans. Which are now my fat jeans. None of my bras fit right anymore, either.

If all clothes had elastic waists or we just wore shapeless mumus and bras were more adjustable, I'd be able to cope with all this weight stuff much better.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

I know! I am on my "fat" jeans right now, and I cannot afford a new wardrobe, so I'm a little stressed out.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

Wha-a-a-a? Is that a joke? Tights, maybe, when it's cold, but I just don't see the pantyhose/WJ connection. It's a non-profit, man! Women be wearin' jeans.

Ch@re5e told me that K|m B0b0 told her that women were to wear hose.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

It's too bad women to wear pantyhose to the office hear, I need a pop filter for a mic about an hour ago.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

too bad women DON'T wear pantyhose to the office HERE

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

i am going to eat a cheese burger stuffed with bleu cheese with a gigantic side of fries and drink several pints of beer tonight. had i known trivia started at 8 i might have gone but as it is now i am meeting someone for dinner and drinks in my/our neighborhood.

unrelated: to the north the sky is slate grey but to the south it's almost SUNNY!! there was thunder not more than 15 minutes ago.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

i am eating my lunch at 3 pm. i approve of miso spinach soup.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

mmmm

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

ugh there's a chance i may actually fall asleep face first in my french fries tonight.

all of a sudden i'm waaaaay sleeeeeeepppppyyyyyyyyyyy.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

In honor of Weight Watchers, I'm going to eat some Zero Point Soup for lunch. And skip dinner so I can drink beer.

THAT'S RIGHT. WEIGHT WATCHERS IS A HEALTHY WAY TO LOSE WEIGHT.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha. I convinced my mom to try ww. She's keeping up with it, but it's only been a month or so.
What constitutes a zero point soup?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

aren't veggies zero points?

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

netflix really needs to have a function: if you put something on your queue that you've rented before, they ask you if you really want to see that again or if you're just being a forgetful dumbass. i am frequently the latter.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, I just read in today's Sun-Times that Borders is looking to close its stores in 1) Uptown; 2) Clark/Diversey; 3) Hyde Park if it can find another store to lease these spaces.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

What? Why would they do that? I don't know how the one in Uptown is doing, but the Clark/Diversey one is always mad busy.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

the one on north avenue is closing too.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

mad busy but margins for book stores don't keep up with the overhead for a place that huge in that part of town.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Zero point soup is basically vegetable soup. There is a specific WW recipe, but I generally roll my own as I find the WW version unnecessarily bland.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Every time I've been by the HP branch it's been deserted. Of course, this is always in the morning or at lunchtime.

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Other zero point foods: wish sandwich, ricochet biscuit.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

JENNY YOU HAVE TO EAT MORE TODAY THAN VEGGIE SOUP. THAT IS STARVATION. I SAY THIS AS YOUR YOU-APPOINTED MENU GURU.

You must eat something to absorb the beer.

I feel bad about my body often. We all do. I don't know that it ever changes, does it?

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

Also, hi everyone.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

Hi, AMAAANNNDDDAAA!

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

Oohhhh.. sun.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, that's true, Jenny. you will get crazy drunk off one beer if you only have soup.

hi Amanda!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

Turned in midterm grades today and feelin' fancy free.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

seriously, i want to run outside and frolic.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

zero g soup

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

I often get the urge to roll around in the grass, even if it's wet.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

But not if there is dog poop in the grass.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

I got drunk last night because my dinner was literally peanuts. From the bar. Then on my way home I ate an apple that I forgot was in my bag, and then stumbled into Dunkin Donuts for a toasted coconut donut.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

Bitches, when are we going to karaoke again?!!?

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

I often get the urge to roll around in the grass, even if it's wet.

two peas, one pod over here.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

Do you do it? I check for poop first, then I do it.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

Bitches, when are we going to karaoke again?!!?

yeah when. i'll try to say this as non-creepily as possible, i like to watch.

also, i love finding a lone claritin in a blister pack at the bottom of my bag when i'm having a horrible allergy day. that has made my afternoon. BREATHING!! EYES NO LONGER BURNING!!! HUZZAH!!!!

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

YES KARAOKE BITCHES!!!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

Do you do it? I check for poop first, then I do it.

i throw caution to the wind usually. i suppose it wouldn't hurt to look but it would ruin the spontaneity of it.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

I am free the weekend after this.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin, you should be in an allergy med commercial which involves you rolling around in grass.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

jaymc, you is DECADENT

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

Poop on my back = major dud. A cursory check prevents ruining of 100% fun.

I am free many weekends, so just tell me when (pref. a Saturday) and where (pref. HC because I feel comf singing there and not so much in hipper places) and I will be there.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

sarah, SIGN ME UP.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

Should I get the new LCD Soundsystem or the corporate branded one?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

makin' potato soup

― n/a, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

I heard "Under Pressure" in a commercial for Propel sweetened water yesterday and almost cried. Songs in commercials don't normally upset me, but this one did. I mean, that's just uncool. FLAVORED WATER? That song is too big for goddamn H2O with Splenda.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, that's an odd commercial, too, with the guy who starts out as a giant hunk of metal and people and weirdness, and as he runs things fall off of him until he's just a guy again. Weird because there's another commercial out now, for car insurance, I think, that is an homage to Katamari with a huge ball or wreckage rolling around and picking up cars and people and such. They look so similar that at first I thought they were part of a series, but no. Totally different companies.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

when moving my desk today i found the apples in stereo "science faire" comp and am listening to it right now. i forgot how much i used to like these guys. fuzzed-out sugar pop with shimmery harmonies, perfect for the impending spring!

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

I only read quickly upthread, maybe someone has mentioned it, but today is the first day of spring, technically.

Spring is my FAVORITE SEASON, Y'ALL.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

NOT THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

I don't.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

I'M GONNA GO OUT AND LIVE IT SISTER!!!

I'M TOTALLY GONNA CELEBRATE SPRING.

by sitting inside a bar drinking beer and smoking cigarettes.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

Hmph.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

but before i get to that bar i will DELIGHT IN THE BOUNTY MOTHER NATURE IS PROVIDING FOR US!!

unless that bounty includes more rain, then i'll probably just go home and get my mail before heading out.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

I might celebrate it by going to Freddy's where I will drink and read and alternate with smoking. Hey, it's a living.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

Good lord! I have eaten more than vegetable soup today. Never fear, friends. I might not have the healthiest relationship with food, but I am certainly in no danger of succumbing to anoxeria or any of its companion EDs.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

i was doing that monday which was good because a) $1.50 domestic bottle night at my local; b) only other regulars were dudes i don't really like; and c) i'm digging that soul music book so much i didn't want to put it down. i've blown through 150 pages in like 3 days worth of commuting and one night at the bar.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

er, xpost.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, when I pay attention to calories in food, it's to make sure there are ENOUGH. When I'm hungry, I'm hopeless.

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

guys I just ate a raw clove of garlic. why did I do that?

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

the guralnick book, Kevin? I was thinking of buying that the other day.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

mmm... garlic...

― KitCat, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

Awesome! I grab every copy of his books that I run across, even though they're not really my thing -- because my friends like them and the covers are great! Happy to oblige.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

Uhh, horseshoe...email me.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

Ha, I've done that before. Sometimes it's just to see if I can handle it.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

Peter "Mystery Train" Guralnick?

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

srsly, Laurel?

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

horseshoe: you ate garlic to ward off the hyde park vampires. yes the peter guralnick book, my best friends own it and i always look at it when i was over but never borrowed it then lo and behold in came in the post for me. i HIGHLY recommend it.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

jaymc, i thought mystery train was griel marcus? guralnick was an old fart music wag in boston for ages. probably still is actually. i used to read him all the time growning up.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

You're right, Kevin. I was thinking of Guralnick's Last Train to Memphis.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

hey chicago, was there food on the southside?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

THIS IS JESSE

Did you eat the clove of garlic on its own? And why DID you do it?

/JESSE

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

Um.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

I did eat the garlic on its own! Kevin's explanation seems as good to me as any. there are vampires in Hyde Park.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

we prefer "creatures of the night"

― kenan, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

I still don't understand. Did you think that it would be a good idea for some reason? Did you pop the whoel thing in your mouth or bite it off bit by bit? Did you salt it? Did it seem appealing in some way before you did it? did you enjoy it? These are things you need to tell us!

― Jesse, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

oh, Jesse, have you never done something on impulse? say, licked the third rail of the CTA? I have no idea why I did it! I popped the clove into my mouth. it was over in a second. I salted nothing. it all happened too quickly for me to have had any cognition about it beforehand. it was like fire in my mouth afterwards, but delicious garlicky fire.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

I made hummus this weekend and used too much garlic/didn't soak the garlic in the lemon juice long enough. It was slightly too astringent-y for my tastes. Fresh toasted and ground cumin in there is the bomb ass shit, however.

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

oh i love cumin.

that sounds wrong. but it is a great spice.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

2 times. Apparently putting it in hummus is the "Egyptian style" -- and after having it that way I don't ever, ever want to go back.

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

my fave hummus recipe lacks cumin. i might have to amend that and try out egyptian style...

turmeric is another great spice. we made an aloo ghobi recipe with garam masala and turmeric that was pretty simple, ingredient-wise, so i was worried about how it would turn out. but it was good once the flavors had a day or so to meld.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)

Oooh, very nice. I find that most curries I make taste better after they age a bit, too.

― dan m, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:08 (eighteen years ago)

Turmeric has a flavor? I thought it was mostly used for color, to get that authentic VERY YELLOW look. Maybe I've been using bad turmeric. Mine is sort of flavorless.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:13 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.fromnaturewithlove.com/images/TurmericPwd.jpg

I HAS A FLAVOR?

― jaymc, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

ha! yeah, I don't think of turmeric as having a flavor either. saffron, neither, even though it's so freaking expensive.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:27 (eighteen years ago)

I always felt like saffron does have a flavor, though -- it's just very s/light. you can get it rill cheap at trader joe's. i got a little jar for $2.99. I put some in the rice cooker and poof! Saffron rice.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:29 (eighteen years ago)

really? I made paella recently and I swear I couldn't taste the saffron at all. you must have a more refined palate than I.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:36 (eighteen years ago)

eh, it's probably just because paella has other flavors and they drowned out the delicate saffron; i can only taste it when it's just saffron and white rice.

turmeric i can't taste at all, but then again i have never made turmeric rice.

what happened to the weather? it's totally cruddy up here.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:39 (eighteen years ago)

i've always wanted to make paella. was it difficult?

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:39 (eighteen years ago)

ps ladiez i am up for a clothing swap too. i also have some smells i need to get rid of because they make the mister sneeze. :(

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

there is some crazy weather happening right now!!!

Amanda, I made crazy adulterated vegetarian paella, so it was super-easy. lots of veggies + olive oil + saffron rice. it was more assembly than it was cooking. I wanted to make the normal seafood version, but my sister hates seafood.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:43 (eighteen years ago)

We've got some nasty t-storms rolling through the North burbs right now.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

hey nick and sarah I saw you're going to be in st louis! let me know if you need anything!

― teeny, Thursday, 22 March 2007 00:00 (eighteen years ago)

Hey! I don't think we need anything, our drummer's parents live there so we've got somewhere to stay. Maybe we'll see you there though?

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 01:25 (eighteen years ago)

SHIT! sold out. The OOIOO show, I mean, by the time I got there, at around 11. I did not imagine they were popular enough to sell out. Basically, I did the same thing John did last night. I think of the Empty Bottle as a neighborhood bar that does mid-level business at best. Not always so, it seems.

Ah, well. I was so upset that I treated myself to a cab home, which would have cost the same as the beers I would have had, so I figure it's a wash. Still, it sucks hard. I was really excited about that show. (But apparently not excited enough to show up early.)

Anyway, I have lots of new music to occupy me. Nick, I am not feeling what you are are feeling about Menomena. I like it a good bit, the new record anyway. I do not hear "seams"-- maybe the vocals smooth them over on this album a little more? I see how it can sound clipped, but that doesn't bug me. I have some problems with it, but I'll get to those tomorrow. Hint: they have to do with some lame-o radio-ready songwriting and a few really painful lyrics. Anyway.

Ponys, kind of the same thing, kind of. I agree with Sarah about Ian being missing, but mostly the record sound just so much more inoffensive than it should.disgu

The Adult. record is my shit right now. A little schitzo and a lot disgusted. I'm ill, and this record is for me.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 05:01 (eighteen years ago)

inoffensive than it should.disgu

heh. I am still bad with a touchpad.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 05:04 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah: you like Andrew Bird, right? Go ahead and annoy Nick with the new one. It's good. :)

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 05:09 (eighteen years ago)

Patrons of the Green Mill take notice: if you happen to use their ATM, the $1.50 withdrawal fee will take over a month to show up on your bank statement, marked simply "ATM Withdrawal Fee." This will concern you, as you see no accompanying withdrawal. You will call your bank who will tell you that the ATM is listed as existing in Sacramento, CA, a town you have never visited and could not even pinpoint on a blank map. You may become paranoid and believe that someone in Sacramento is testing the waters with your bank info. A protracted conversation with the nice Indian man on the phone will finally reveal the ridiculous truth--that you were had a yen for a taco and Miller Lite, so you withdrew some cash from this half-assed ATM.

Perhaps I'll put my pants on and head down to the GM to punch the ATM.

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 06:06 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think that hearing your ATM card was used in Sacramento and panicking is really paranoid. I'd do the same thing.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 06:31 (eighteen years ago)

I agree!

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 07:16 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, srsly, that shit is as real as skinny girls in new york city.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 07:21 (eighteen years ago)

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 07:22 (eighteen years ago)

why is everything so spinny?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 07:39 (eighteen years ago)

sounds like a zen koan.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 07:50 (eighteen years ago)

why is everything so spinny?

I don't know why this made me chuckle. I guess it was the visual of Kevin at homo, belly full of PBR, trying to figure out why the spinning. Or very sober, contemplating the spinning.

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 07:55 (eighteen years ago)

And then I thought of how my cat, with all her idle hours, must at some points of her day think this same thought.

OH--"homE" not "homO"

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 07:56 (eighteen years ago)

I loved I am the fun blame monster. Haven't heard the new one.

― Jeff, Thursday, 22 March 2007 11:43 (eighteen years ago)

Trivia was fun last night, I just didn't know that many answers. I request more science, math, and IT questions. Less history and geography.

― Jeff, Thursday, 22 March 2007 12:09 (eighteen years ago)

an era ends

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 12:55 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.omnium-gatherum.org/wp-content/images/2005/1954-Popular-Mechanics--The-Home-Computer.jpg

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 12:57 (eighteen years ago)

CS110 - Fortran was the first class I took in college where I experienced the phenomenon of "this instructor does not speak English -- uh oh, I'm screwed" that was semi-common at my university.

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 12:59 (eighteen years ago)

why is everything so spinny?

more serious answer

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 13:06 (eighteen years ago)

ok, that's not a direct answer. but it touches on it, at least.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 13:11 (eighteen years ago)

This morning my bus smelled like pee, shampoo, and minty gum, in that order.

I've decided to be very unproductive at work today. I need to just reeeelllaaaxxxxx.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, horseshoe, please to be putting your paella recipe on the blog.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

Kenan, I liked Andrew Bird at PF and the song or two I've heard, but I never had any of his albums. Please to be YSIing.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

it was a belly full of high life by the way. champagne of beers.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 13:45 (eighteen years ago)

You inspired me, BTW, Kevin. I made brownies last night. Nick took the rest to work with him today though so we wouldn't each eat half a brownie pan.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of beers, I wanted to go get a beer after band practice last night, which we never do. We were going to go to Whirlaway, but then Ben said he hadn't had dinner yet and was hungry, and Sarah wanted a margarita instead of beer, so we decided to go to El Cid instead. However, it was packed, so after waiting 15 minutes for a table to open up, we ended up just going home. So disappointing.

Lost was good again last night though! The third strong episode in a row. It's getting intriguing again finally.

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

I am enjoying this new El-P album. Is that so wrong?

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think loving El-P is wrong. And if it is, I don't want to be right.

Check, Please featured an Ecuadorian restaurant in Roger's Park some months ago with cheap and delicious paella and I want to go real bad because I do love paella but doubt I could pull it off as well at home.

― Jenny, Thursday, 22 March 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

I used to LOVE the vegetarian paella at Kuba Kuba in Richmond.

Traditional Spanish rice dish with artichoke hearts, roasted red peppers, asparagus, tomatoes, potatoes, peas, and spinach.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

They also had great dolce de leche cake.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

Kuba Kuba was pretty great.

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

the whirlaway is pretty much in my backyard!

I can totally put the paella recipe on the blog, but how do I get to the blog again?

― horseshoe, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

Peruvian! Not Ecuadorian. http://www.tasteofperu.com/

― Jenny, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

Ahhhh moms you are so fucking unreasonable (that it makes me actually say that to your face)

― Jordan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

also, I adapted the paella recipe from Moosewood's lowfat cookbook. I find their lowfat cookbook to be kind of insane. they have a chili recipe that uses no fat of any kind. no oil!

― horseshoe, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

Hmm... That link was on this page but I guess it's somewhere in those 3000 skipped messages.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

High Life is great. It makes for a surprisingly refreshing breakfast.

― Jordan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan, What are you talking about?

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha. I like High Life too, but that's what I had Friday night that left me for dead most of Saturday.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

Horseshoe, we should have a TT or a T-someotherday at Whirlaway sometime then. I know it's convenient to Dan too.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

those are the things that I put in my veggie paella! well, no potatoes or spinach, but that sounds good, too.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

I've been told that a High Life mimosa is surprisingly delicious. I'm game to discover this for myself one of these days.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, High Life is pretty much my favorite cheap beer.

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

It's always something with this woman. She picked up her cat this morning, and that led to "you are coming to Milwaukee for Passover on a Monday night until midnight," and I said I couldn't, and it turned into "then I am coming to your apartment, oh but I will have to come the day before and throw out all of your not-kosher-for-Passover food and stay two nights, it is my duty" and then I get angry and eventually agree to what she originally wanted. Like usual. It makes me feel like I'm fifteen.

I've only ever had High Life for breakfast in Chicago, in a hotel with Erik.

― Jordan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

it is my preferred beer to accompany football watching.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

The only thing calming me down right now is the O'Jay's greatest hits.

High Life mimosa, wow...do you mean just HL and OJ?

― Jordan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

that's what I hear, Jordan! I know, it sounds gross, right?

― horseshoe, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to make one the next time I go out to brunch at a place with a bar, it'll blow minds.

― Jordan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

Sounds pretty refreshing and good to me, actually.

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

It is, as previously mentioned, the champagne of beers, after all.

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

for cheap beer i prefer pbr (union made after all) but my local only has it on tap and i don't trust most bars to keep the lines of their taps clean. i sure as hell don't trust my local to do so. if anyone want's to grab some high life's tonight, they are the special at HC. of course that "special" price is $3.00 which is rediculous.

sarah, how did the brownies come out? i ate one with my coffee this morning at my desk. more than 80 minutes sleep would've done me well today.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

They were really good. I baked them in a smaller pan because they usually end up too stiff and thin. This time they were very moist. Thanks for askin'.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

80 minutes sleep? That's ridiculous. Why did you bother sleeping at all?

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to make my own High Life mimosa tonight = High Life + O'Jays

― Jordan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

sarah what are we doing tonight? We should probably go to the gym, but maybe if it's nice maybe I could just walk to your work and we could walk home again.

Is anyone doing TT tonight?

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

Jeff and I are going to a Bulls game w/ Magnum O'Shea.

― Jenny, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

Who are they playing?

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

Or to be more specific, who are they losing to?

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

ZING

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

Kirk Heinrich is crying in his High Life mimosa right about now.

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

Nick, walking sounds great.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, this is the most pretentious album title ever:

Artist: Valerio Tricoli

Album: Metaprogramming From Within The Eye Of The Storm

― Jordan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

Bulls may not lose, they have generally have been good this year, with a few missteps. 9 games over .500!

― Jeff, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

vs. the Nuggets tonight.

― Jeff, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

80 minutes sleep? That's ridiculous. Why did you bother sleeping at all?

i wasn't going to as if it's less than 2 hours it doesn't really help anyway but i fell asleep in spite of myself.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

That is an awesome album name.

But Sarah, what are we going to DO tonight?

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

Um... LAUNDRY??!

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

the whirlaway is pretty much in my backyard!

I can totally put the paella recipe on the blog, but how do I get to the blog again?

As noted previously, the Whirlaway is quite close to my house, too.

I still don't know if people can access the old blog or not. I thought I totally screwed it up, but who knows. The new blog is chilxorz.blogspot.com, and the password is the same as for the old blog (email me if you didn't know it).

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

^^^login = chilxors (at) gmail.com

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

FUCK, I can't type. chilxorz (at) gmail

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

Ok, so my boss is nuts. Not my immediate boss, I love her. But the head of the marketing department. The "Honey With Colts" guy. Yeah, that's him. He has this idea in his head that everyone loves printouts. For every weekly sales meeting, he was having us design and print out hundreds of flyers and handouts that we all knew were about as useful as the handouts you get on the street. (Was it Seinfeld that said it's like somebody saying, "Here, throw this away for me.") Finally someone said something to him about it, and appealed to his budget, saying that it's a waste of money to use this much paper and ink. Which it is, but it's also a waste of human resources.

Anyway, so the day before yesterday, yesterday, and then finally this morning he was having me take a massive spreadsheet, about 50 pages worth altogether, print it out, and then TAPE THE PIECES OF PAPER TOGETHER TO MAKE ONE BIG SPREADSHEET. OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I have taped this same piece of shit together three times, and it takes HOURS, and it's for the purpose of handing to executives to show them how great this spreadsheet is. Can you imagine? Can you imagine if some nutter handed you 50 sheets of paper taped together? How is this useful? He insists, of course, that he knows what these people like, and what they like is paper. This despite the fact that they have already told him to stop using so much paper. Not to mention the fact that I have gone through three rolls of tape on this hilarious boondoggle.

And I have real work to do, that's the funny fucking thing. Does he want me to do my job or his bidding?

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

Yes. This guy is clearly insane.

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

this is on the dl, so shhh, but two andrew bird albums for sarah

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

t...ape?

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

crazy boss kills thread

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

I hope you can at least listen to music while taping, K.

― Eazy, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

i can't, because it's always a frenzy with him standing over my shoulder and telling me he needs it yesterday. when in fact i know that he needs it never.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks, Kenan!

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

welcome! Others may also partake, of course, if they don't already have Weather Systems and The Mysterious Production of Eggs. (I only have the new one on my iPod, so no uploadsies.)

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

Peruvian! Not Ecuadorian. http://www.tasteofperu.com/

Kr really wants to go to this place. Shall we make a date of it sometime?

Also no talking about L O S T except in the most general terms, b/c I haven't seen it yet. (Will prob watch late tonight on ABC.com.)

― jaymc, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

LOCKE DIES

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

Uh.

― jaymc, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

WHO ELSE IS GOING TO PONYS/BLACK LIPS NEXT SATURDAY?!?!?!

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

Only if you paid me.

― jaymc, Thursday, 22 March 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

Um, let's see if this works.

Video about Black Lips on NYT

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

WHO ELSE IS GOING TO PONYS/BLACK LIPS NEXT SATURDAY?!?!?!

I could be easily talked into this.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

Talk yourself into it and buy a ticket.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

Once you have a ticket, you'll have to go.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

plus, it won't be sold out

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

My co-worker Katie wants me to go with her to see A-Trak and Flosstradamus at SmartBar in a couple weeks. It's going to be a HIPSTER DANCE PARTY.

― jaymc, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

Ooh. What day?

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

Friday, April 13.

― jaymc, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, that sounds aiight. I'm not mad at that.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

plus, it won't be sold out

it might be, last black lips show at lsa was packed. this one is ponys rec. release show.

i won't be there ;_;

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

i have almost nearly accepted mashups as a legitimate art form. what can i say, i'm old.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

no i mean, if i buy an advance ticket, it won't be sold out for me.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

ah ha. reading comprehension? out the fucking window.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

out the fucking window.

What do you guys think Sonic Youth is going to do for "Providence" when they perform Daydream Nation live? Play a recording? Get Mike Watt to come and talk into a distorted mic?

― jaymc, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

you only got 80 minutes of sleep. it's ok.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

Get Mike Watt to come and talk into a distorted mic?

That's the dream.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

daydream nation was on the bartenders ipod last night, it must have plopped itself into my subconscious.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

mike watt is three years younger than my mom. that's all weird and shit.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

mike watt looks about 30 years older than he is.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

meaning he looks 80?

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

kim gordon is OLDER than my mom, which is fucked up about somebody i used to have dirty thoughts about.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

at leasat 80. dude should be a mid to late round draft pick in next years dead pools.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

quick, make up a story about this picture:

http://www.beatsupernovarasa.com/thebeats/wattmike.jpg

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

MIKE THAT"S NOT ICED TEA DUDER

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

if that's piss, it's some seriously drunk and dehydrated piss. Your piss is only that color when you seriously need to drink more water.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

okay, guys, paella recipe is posted.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

We pee econo.

― Eazy, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

chicago seems tired today.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

Obligatory weather talk: it's really, really nice out.

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, no joke. i want to go eat lunch again, and do it outside this time.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

thx 4 a.bird, kenan

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

oh, anytime

I'm going to have to listen to something else, because one of my coworkers has been playing "traditional japanese music" ALL MORNING, and it feels like an incense shop or a massage parlor in here. I've gone from mellow to indifferent to annoyed.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

I put a link to the new 3l3ctr3lan3 album on the bloggzor.

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

Last vet visit for awhile has been taken care of.

When I picked up my mom's cat at the vet school yesterday I talked to a really cute vet tech for awhile, thought "I should've gotten her number" afterwards and forgot about it. But it turns out my co-worker's girlfriend is a vet tech at the same place (and I definitely was not talking to her!)...hmm.

― Jordan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

I hope you can at least listen to music while taping, K.

TAPING IS KILLING MUSIC

― Jordan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

lolz

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

You should Scotch tape that guy's office closed.

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

There's an Office Space joke somewhere in the midst of the taping story, but I haven't been able to dig it out yet.

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

Man, that Ronaldinho thread...

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

right? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!!!

― horseshoe, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

It's mean to make fun of someone's bigass teeth, but I don't think it's racist. Dude is the most popular player in the world, and he's got some mean fucking chompers. There's gonna be some caricature going on.

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

because of the way people in that thread are reacting, I buy that that bottle-opener could have been made with a certain clueless lack of bad intentions. but it fits so perfectly into a huge tradition of racist iconography that it's amazing to me that the person making it never had a second thought. and it blows my mind that people on ILX don't see it as problematic. seriously, you click on that thread and there is a huge exaggerated black face, complete with gaping grin staring at you! I was not expecting that. and then further not expecting people to be talkin about how they'd like to own it.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

I called in sick to work today...

― Courtney M in Chicago, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

Hi Courtney!

― Jordan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

dan and horseshoe... take it back to the other thread

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

or YOU GONNA GET RAPED

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

Oh please

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

hi Courtney!

― horseshoe, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, hi Courtney!

(Unless you are just Jesse posting from Courtney's computer and forgot to log in again, in which case, learn to remember your password!)

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

dan, do you doubt my ability or intention to rape you? you will get the bagtagging of a lifetime, my man.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

Ha! My arms are longer than yours. You're done, son!

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

i just got yelled at because apparently i was keeping time to the apples in stereo with my foot against the back of my desk. i didn't realize it was that loud.

courtney, i will be in your neighborhood tonight, you and jesse should come out for drinks with me.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

I hate everyone that's not you guys today.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

i'm seriously crashing right now, on the ropes hoping to make it to the end of the round. c'mon bell, ring dammit, ring!

coffee isn't keeping me awake anymore. i'm looking forward to sleeping on the bus and train. not looking forward to getting robbed while asleep however.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin, you're going out again tonight? Way to live life, dude.

I just found I have a gig right after work. Playing happy birthday for a hundred bucks? This I can do.

― Jordan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

i don't believe in the birthday song. it's the closest thing i have to a dogmatic belief.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

tonight, tomorrow, two shows saturday, rest on sunday, show on monday night (free show at the bottle, 2 good bands [i've never heard the 3rd]), rest on tuesday, regular wednesday night get together, fly to NYC on thursday and it's off into oblivian at the powerpop fest.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

Hardly anyone can sing it confidently, which makes for many very mumbled office birthday songs.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

It exists, I can prove it.

― Jordan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

People who vehemently don't believe in the birthday song are just as annoying as those that do.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

I know somebody who's getting a cowbell solo the next time he comes to the Green M1ll, whether it's his birthday or not.

― Jordan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

My sister went to a lecture on black history for work this morning and the whole thing was everyone getting screamed at about Jesus and how he saved the black man and can save you too. I don't envy her.

― KitCat, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

It is Courtney - where are drinks?

― Courtney M in Chicago, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

I'm guessing Holiday Club. I might be down, too.

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

i just can't do it. i can't sing the birthday song. it's just too dumb. plus, it's a really bad song.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

maybe if it had a tune! you know, something you could at least hum.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

yes, HC, back bar 10 pm to ???

i will eat pizza and pizza will recharge me and see me through the night.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

yr new birthday song!!!!

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

TODAY AT WOrk:

A group of 4 business people dined in my section. A guy at the table paid, and when I picked up the check, he had tipped $41 on $120. When I removed the CC slip I saw a card. But it wasn't his credit card, it was a key card for a room at the Westin. T0ny C@rb0ne is staying at the Westin, waiting for me to earn that 35% tip.

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

ooh smooth pickup!

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

That's about the level of class I would expect from someone named T0ny C@rb0ne.

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

BECAUSE I HATE ITALIANS

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

Sometimes I feel like the Sam Kinison of CHILX. :(

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

Fat, screams punchlines and has covered "Wild Thing."

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

THAT IS SO FUCKING COOL AND/OR REPULSIVELY SMARMY!!!!

my friend amy told me a story about a 55 year old airline pilot who tried (and almost did) pick her up at an airport bar when she was a flight attendant. it was pretty funny. i'll never be that smooth but i'm ok with that.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

"So... wanna fuck in the bathroom?"

Never fails.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

I could NOT remember what Tony looked like for about an hour. But then I remembered his shirt. I still don't remember his face very well, but I think he was about my height, stocky, with dark hair and nose, eyes, and teeth. AND THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME!

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

tune in tomorrow for the next installment of "Kenan at the Des Plaines Oasis".

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

And hey, I'm not above going to someone's room for no-strings slap 'n tickle, but I think he needed to go one step further by leaving a note or something. I mean what does he expect, that I'm going to just show up and ask the front desk to show me to his room? I could lose my job if I did that to the wrong person!

Anyway, I don't know if I would do it even if he had given me more info. But if any of you decide to try this, be aware of this pitfall.

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

Even a note like "Thanks Jesse" would be sufficient.

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

The real question is: How is he going to explain the loss of his room key to the hotel?

― Jenny, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

I'm guessing he was given multiple key cards. They do that sometimes.

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

Or he's just going to say "Hey, I lost my keycard. Give me a new one."

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

ITALIANS ARE SNEAKY

― n/a, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, they always ask how many keys i'll require when i check in.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

Or he's just going to say "Hey, I lost my keycard. Give me a new one."

then jesse's key wouldn't work.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

jesse's going to get to the room only to find tony soprano waiting for him.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sure if he had any foresight at all (and Italians are known for nothing if not their foresight!) then he asked for a couple of keys when he checked in. OR he could say, "Oh, poop! I left my key card in my room. Could I get another?"

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

No, I mean when he checks out. They are going to want all those keycards back but if you don't go to his hotel room with the keycard, he won't be able to return it!

― Jenny, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNN

― Jenny, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

i never EVER return my keycard. your credit card information is on there.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

if you used a credit card to secure the room.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

jesse that poor poor man will be trapped in that hotel room forever IF YOU DON'T GO LET HIM BLOW YOU! This is a moral imperative, son!

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

No, I mean when he checks out. They are going to want all those keycards back but if you don't go to his hotel room with the keycard, he won't be able to return it!

I have lost a billion key cards and never got charged. He's fine. ONE BILLION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(I'm turning into Nick)

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

Isn't it pretty standard to get two keycards when checking in? I can't think of the last time I stayed in a hotel for more than a day or two when I didn't misplace at least one of them. Unfortunately mine were all misplaced due to my own stupidity and not in a non-subtle attempt to wrangle a hotel tryst with a cute server.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

jvc, same here but i am totally going to try to add this to my repetoire.

look for me to wind up dead in a hotel room at the hands of a waitress sometime soon.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

What? Your CC info is on there? Are you sure of that? Even if it is, they reprogram (re-program?) them afresh for each guest and the hotel employees have access to your CC info anyway.

I'm dubious.

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

wrangle a hotel tryst with a cute server.

Awww... *blush* Are you calling me a cute server?

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

no, he's saying that's who *he* would pick.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

;)

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I read that as wrangle a hotel tryst with a cute server such as Jesse

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

Ugh I have to work tonight...I close, but I may join you fux for some Holiday Clubbing.

Tonight I'm going to go open a bottle with my enormous teeth.

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

I figured it was a fair shot since 96.7% of all servers are cute. Maybe I'm just biased from having been one for several years. I never got the hotel key thing, but I used to get notes left by high school girls all the time. A particular favorite that got big laffs in the kitchen:

You're cute, call me sometime. XXX-XXX. but not after 9:00, my dad gets mad.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not cute. I'm fat and my breath stinks of the Jersey shore at low tide :(

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

That's why I work at a seafood restaurant.

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

That's how I met my husband. I was his waitress.

(Full disclosure: he was friends with someone I worked with, but the first time we spoke and I became enamored of him, I served him manicotti with extra bread, because he was CUTE.)

― La Lechera, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

And I wanted him to like me.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

I guess it worked.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

way to cost the restaurant precious bread money, yo!

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

Then you gave him a key?

― Jesse, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

but hey, worked out for you.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

Extra bread would have done it for me. I prefer meeting my future spouses in gay bars, if I'd only have known that was the trick earlier in life.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

I like it when my server says, "Wanna fuck in the bathroom?" Works every time.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

No key, but I gave him a yo-yo.

(Not a euphemism -- an actual yo-yo.)

All said, it was pretty g-rated. I'm just saying that I was his waitress and that's how we met.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

Or walk-in cooler, adds a little spice to the line.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

Now you know what that side towel is for.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

Exactly. That pouch isn't just for extra order tablets.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

Amanda's husband is a numba one stunna!

― Laurel, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

I certainly think so.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

I also have to tell you all that free vodka got the best of me last night. There was a little party after the reading I went to and I ate tons of unhealthy food for pizza and drank vodka and soda. TODAY I HAVE THE HEADACHE AND BARFY FEELINGS.

Guess how many drinks I had. Just guess.

Ok, I tell you.

TWO. WTF is my problem?

― La Lechera, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

You don't drink enough?

― Laurel, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

But I drink wine ALL THE TIME. Virtually every night, for the most part. At least a glass. I mean, at some point during the day, I usually have one alcoholic beverage. I don't usually have more than 2, but that's because I'm more of an everyday-type person. Two vodkas should not send me over into painful territory.

I feel ridiculous.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

Ridiculously SHITTY, that is.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

Oh! I didn't realize you were hitting the wine, sorry! I knew you weren't a big fan of teh drinkins to excesses.

― Laurel, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

Right -- I am a more of a regular tippler, not a guzzler. So two drinks should be nothing to me. but here I am, feeling like someone whacked me on the head.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

Cheap vodka? That gets me every single time.

― dan m, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

That's probably the culprit. It's never hurt me before in this way, though. Ugh.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

Cheap vodka is reaaaaal hurty.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

I guess that's it, then. Never again!

― La Lechera, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:00 (eighteen years ago)

I'd say a good rule is never anything below Absolut, and higher if you can afford it.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

Avoid plastic jugs of vodka. It presumes imbalance on the part of the drinker.

― Eazy, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

Jesus H -- I got these drinks from a nice restaurant. I hope they weren't using plastic jugs. I feel like a dumbass for not knowing this.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)

I got a headache and barfy feelings because I'm too dumb to know that if someone else is paying for the drinks, ask for the nice vodka. Oh well. Guess I should lie down.

I don't even want to eat the NCBBQ I made. ;_;

― La Lechera, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:08 (eighteen years ago)

It presumes imbalance on the part of the drinker.

haha If not now, soon enough.

― kenan, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)

I will eat it, Amanda, don't worry. I'll e-mail you my address so you can forward the BBQ.

It took three hours but I finally put my bed together all by myself, like a big boy. I've never felt so masculine.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 02:14 (eighteen years ago)

Also I got paid $10/minute to play happy birthday today, and was paid by the owner of a chain of sub shops.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 02:15 (eighteen years ago)

*Warning: boring, selfish personal post below, skip if you hate that sort of thing*

So, for about two and a half years now, my fiancee and I have been talking about taking a tip to San Francisco. It's somewhere we've both always wanted to go and, unless certain things hadn't come up that made it very attractive for us to go to Seattle last fall, that would have been where we went instead. In fact we had already done some preliminary research and made a list of all the stuff we wanted to do while we were in San Fran. Anyway... yesterday she found out that her company is sending her to San Fran for a week-long conference in May. So she was all excited last night telling me all about it and then she started naming off all the stuff her and her co-workers were planning to do when they weren't going to be in the conference, and it's pretty much the same as the list we had made. So now she's expecting me to be all thrilled and excited for her to be making the trip which, quite honestly, I just can't be. Am I wrong to feel kinda bitter about this? I mean, she's going to be out there doing all the things we were planning to do together and now it's unlikely that we'll ever make another trip out there.

*End boring, selfish post*

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 12:27 (eighteen years ago)

Can you go out there at the same time?

Sarah and I are going to San Fran for our honeymoon in approximately 2.5 months. I am psyched. Though I had a dream last night that we forgot the bring the rings to the wedding.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 13:06 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, no, Nick! You're having wedding nightmares!

Jon, Yeah, maybe you can go at the same time? I've heard of people doing that, traveling with their s.o.'s when the other person has to travel for work. She might have stuff she has to do during the day, but you could do your own exploring then. Maybe you should ask if anyone else is bringing someone? If not, it doesn't mean you can't EVER go there with her. When you do go, she'll be proud to show you the favorite spots she found, I'm sure. But also, just tell her how you feel.

― KitCat, Friday, 23 March 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

I was thinking about the idea of going out there with her at the same time, but I won't be able to get that time off of my job because of a couple big deadlines that week. Ah well.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

What I would do then is plan a MANLY WEEK by yourself, full of pizza and action movies and beer and trying not to feel lonely. That's what I do when Sarah goes out of town.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe you two should get busy planning a vacation together somewhere so you have one to look forward to as well?

― KitCat, Friday, 23 March 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I mean we are planning our honeymoon... which will be our next vacation. I guess I'm just bummed because the most exciting place my work has ever sent me was Waukesha, Wisconsin for a two-day conference four years ago. And because we decided to forgo a vacation this year to save for the wedding, so now she gets a sorta vacation for free. I'm just full of sour grapes about it, I don't know.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

When's the weddin'?

― KitCat, Friday, 23 March 2007 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

June, '08

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe you could plan a road trip before then? Might I recommend Wisconsin?

― KitCat, Friday, 23 March 2007 13:52 (eighteen years ago)

HOUSE ON THE ROCK!!!

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

It's the official vacation destination of Chilx couples.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

So we went to see the Bulls game last night and it was v. good because: 1) Bulls won; 2) it was a really close game and so was very exciting; 3) we all got Big Macs (even though I never actually redeem my coupon. I just like to know it happened); and 4) I won the coffee.

BUT during half-time, two basketball teams from the Special Olympics came out to play on the court and one player fell and had a seizure and they had to take him off the court on a stretcher and that was really sad.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

:(

I flipped over to the game for a couple of minutes last night but I didn't spot you guys in the audience.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

Also Violet Palmer was one of the refs last night and every time she'd make a fucking call, the crowd would erupt with boos and calls of "YOU SUCK VIOLET." Not when either of the male refs made calls, though. People just kind of let those slide, even when they were against the Bulls. That was making me pretty furious.

I'm going to send her a Halmark Card. It's got to be hard enough to be a ref because whenever you do your job, somebody is going to get angry about it. But with Palmer, people were angry at HER. Not at her calls.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

We were way up in the top tier, section 301. We never get t-shirts or TV time up there.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

They had some really bizarre time-out/half-time entertainment at the Bulls game we went to. There were these twin Asian dudes in spandex outfits that did this routine jumping in and out of tubes, a performing dog, and a dude with bicycle horns strapped all over his body who would play tunes by squeezing different ones.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I like basketball and all, but Bulls games are fun for the utterly absurd spectacle of it all.

Oh yeah, we also won a gallon of water. WHOOOOO GALLON OF WATER!

Here's a good blog post about Violet Palmer. The comments are, as is often the case, painful to read.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

Nick and Sarah, I just got your wedding invitation, and I LOVE it! Art deco peacock! Really very cool.

I will be rsvp-ing in the affirmative.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

Wow. The internets be full of morons. I've found most 'comments' sections on any website to be where the most ignorant people are to be found.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

Especially popular, non-specialized, non-moderated comments. You Tube comments are invariably priceless.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

i mean popular non-specialized WBESITES with non-moderated comments

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

Popul WBESITES?

I'm a short timer today because I'm leaving at lunchtime. Then I have Monday off. HAPPY DANCE!

Yesterday after work Nick and I went to M00nshine and I got this delicious drink with mango and cherry juice in it.

― KitCat, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

Popul?

― KitCat, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

I only mention that drink because I loved it and would like more, please.

― KitCat, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

wbesites

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

YES. Vacation day on Monday. I am not looking forward to the amount of driving I will be doing this weekend (especially tomorrow) but other than that I am looking forward to the minitour/vacation. Sat.'s show in St. Louis should be good, playing with 8unnygrunt and we got some publicity for it (thanks to ILX connections, actually), and although Sunday's show in Urbana is a little iffier, it's at a decent-sounding venue with some other bands that seem good (ie, the R3cord L0w, who are headlining the Metro sometime soon). Plus, it means a short week next week.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

Ugh, I know this is the wrong place to out myself as a Pumpkins fanatic, but it looks like Billy Corgan is picking Virgin's festival in Baltimore over Lolla this summer. Doesn't make much sense to me.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

You are not alone on this board in your Pumpkins fanaticism.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

Have they announced who's going to be in the band other than BC and JC at this point? I guess it doesn't really matter. I was a big Siamese Dream fan, and a fan of MC&tIS to a lesser extent, but I really have no interest in seeing them at all. Sarah was/is a pretty big fanatic.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

There's a female ref in the NBA?? That's pretty cool.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

I already saw them live at lolla 94, I think. They were pretty epic. But that was... 13 years ago? Is that possible? Holy moly.

Anyway, SD is one of those albums I pull out once a year or so, and dig it, but I am not excited about seeing them live again.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

It's harder for me to listen to his singing these days for some reason, even on the older albums.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

I know the chances of it not sucking are very, very slim, but I have to admit I'm kinda excited by the prospect of seeing some of those early songs live again.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, that breathy thing he does does not date well. And yet, that big-ass Boston-inspired arena sound never fails with me.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

His singing on Gish and SD is better than on later albums, when he got squealier.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

HEY GUYS I AM READY FOR WEAKENED

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

Pumpkins: POX

Drown
Hummer
Starla
Rhinoceros
Suffer
Frail and Bedazzled
Cherub Rock

...and I can't think of any more. Those are not in any order, anyway.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

I like that song on the Singles soundtrack. That's Drown, right?

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

It's like their "Diamond Sea."

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

Drown is likely my #1. Yeah, Singles soundtrack.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

In retrospect, the Singles Soundtrack was kinda remarkable, even if there was a lot of filler. It featured my fave SP song, and really good songs from bands I would never listen to otherwise now, namely Alice in Chains and Pearl Jam.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think of myself as loving the Pumpkins, but there are a bunch of Pumpkins tunes that I really like. It's weird.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

hey look what i found

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

I was thinking about the Jerky Boys movie soundtrack the other day. The only bands I remember being on it are Collective Soul and Superchunk.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

Oh god the Jerky Boys... CRAZY SILLY GUMBY GOLD

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

also Helmet and Green Day.

I was thinking about Helmet the other day, and nearly dl'ed Meantime. But... then I didn't. Should I? Is it as good as I remember?

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

1 Accordions & Keyboards Johnny Brennan
2 Gel Collective Soul
3 2000 Light Years Away Green Day
4 Dial a Jam Coolio & The 40 Thevz
5 Shallow End Superchunk
6 Four Fly Guys Hurricane
7 Are You Gonna Go My Way Tom Jones
8 Hanging on the Telephone L Seven
9 Beef Jerky House of Pain
10 Symptom of the Universe Helmet
11 Dirty Dancing Wu Tang Clan
12 You Got Me Sick as a Dog Jerky Boys

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

pretty decent collection actually. That Green Day song was good.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

Both the Pearl Jam songs on Singles are so good I want to hear them right now.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

[Removed Illegal Link]

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

Crap.

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=29703

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

strongo otm

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

JUDGEMENT NIGHT

oh man, torrent plz

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

haha I was also reminded of that thread

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha I LOVED the Judgement Night sdtk.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

One of my first intertron screen names ever was AnotherBodyMurdered.

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

Oh no.

Part of what was fun about that soundtrack was trying to figure out who did what. Like I still can't figure out what Teenage Fanclub actually did on their collabo with De La Soul.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

50% of my freshman year HS listening was probably soundtracks that I got for cheap. Judgment Night, Tales from the Crypt presents: Demon Knight, Beavis & Butthead, the Crow, Airheads, etc.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

I think I had all of those soundtracks! Except for maybe Airheads.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

I feel like I got a mix tape at Taco Bell at some point that I listened to like crazy that had Juliana Hatfield on it...

― KitCat, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

Airheads OST

1. Born to Raise Hell - Motorhead/Ice-T/Whitfield Crane (!)
2. I'm the One - 4 Non Blondes
3. Feed the Gods - White Zombie
4. No Way Out - DGeneration
5. Bastardizing Jellikit - Primus
6. London - Anthrax
7. Can't Give In - Candlebox
8. Curious George Blues - Dig
9. Inheritance - Prong
10. Degenerated - The Lone Rangers
11. I'll Talk My Way Out of It - Stuttering John
12. Fuel - Stick
13. We Want the Airwaves - Ramones

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha Stuttering John. No, I didn't have that one.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

Who is Whitfield Crane?

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha ha.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

Ugly Kid Joe

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

whitfieldcrane.com breathes life once more

Cool. Now I take this off my nightly prayer list.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

Judgment Night soundtrack! Ha! I had that. I was also a huge fan of sdtk to All Over Me:

1. Hello - Babes In Toyland
2. Ellen And Claude Jammin - Original Motion Picture Score Composed By Miki Navazio
3. Shy - Ani DiFranco
4. Hole In The Ground - Helium
5. I Wanna Be Your Joey Ramone - Sleater-Kinney
6. Game Song - Tuscadero
7. Jackie Blue - The Ozark Mountain Daredevils
8. Claude Sees Ellen And Mark - Original Motion Picture Score
9. Squeezebox Days - The Murmurs
10. Dragon Lady - The Geraldine Fibbers
11. Dynamite - Alison Pipitone
12. Empty Glasses - The Amps
13. Descent - Remy Zero
14. 6 a.m. Jullander Shere - Cornershop
15. The Kiss - Original Motion Picture Score
16. Dimming Soul - Michelle Malone
17. Pissing In A River - The Patti Smith Group
18. Superglider - Drugstore
19. Finale - Original Motion Picture Score
20. Something's Burning - 12 Rounds

The Murmurs song was my fave. I also liked the sdtk to My So-Called Life because it had Spin the Bottle by Juliana Hatfield and I lurve that song so much.

There's a female ref in the NBA?? That's pretty cool.

It is! From what I've read, the NBA hired two women refs, but VP is the only one left. She gets a lot of crap for being terrible (which in parts seems to stem from an unwillingness to take any shit from players) but I think there's a good argument for stereotype bias having a role in that. Just the fact that she got called out by name constantly by fans while male ref's calls went by without comment was pretty telling to me. Anyway, she's like my new hero and I'm seriously going to write her a fan letter.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

Do you know what I hate?
When you are handed a problem that is NOT YOUR JOB and you try to give it to the correct person who then asks why you didn't do it yourself. When you explain you did everything in your power, they then say then tell person X to do this... GRRR. Just deal with it!

Happy news - leaving in 30 minutes.

― KitCat, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

I liked the Singles soundtrack because of Wood by Alice in Chains. I hate Alice in Chains except for two songs, Wood and Them Bones (Dem Bones? I can't remember) and I love those songs to pieces.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

Hey FFS - in case I forget - have a good time on your minitour!!! YAY!

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

It's called "Would?", actually.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

IF
I
COULD
WOULD
YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU?!?!?!

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

I keep reading that 'FFS' different...

"Hey, for fuck's sake, - in case I forget - have a good time on your minitour!!!"

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

90s soundtracks should be my Jeopardy catagory because I worked in a record store for a lot of the 90s and we'd get ten promo copies per movie, it seemed like.

But to go back one decade, I nominate Repo Man for if not best then at least top five best 80s OSTs:

1. Repo Man - Iggy Pop
2. TV Party - Black Flag
3. Istitutionalized - Suicidal Tendencies
4. Coup D'Etat - The Circle Jerks
5. El Clavo Y La Cruz - The Plugz
6. Pablo Picasso - Burning Sensations
7. Let's Have A War - Fear
8. When The Shit Hits The Fan - The Circle Jerks
9. Hombre Secreto (Secret Agent Man) - The Plugz
10. Bad Man - Juicy Bananas
11. Reel Ten - The Plugz

That soundtrack was FORMATIVE for me, people. Formative.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

Ha.

If I could wood you?

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, that would be my #1 80's OST, for sure.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

If I could wood you, I'd die a happy man.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

If you see Kay, tell her I love her.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks, Jenny!

Hey, I've griped about work today.. Wanna hear me gripe about a relative for just a second?

I suppose I shouldn't care and I should just let everyone believe what they believe, but my sis just pointed me to a cousin's blog and I think she might be loco. Every single entry (one a day at least) is a Christian hymn followed by a sermon-like explanation of what this means to 'us' as Christians. Apparently, she's going to seminary soon. Anyway, also my sis had suggested Time Traveler's W1fe to her and cousin loved it. Sis told me - see? look. She's not so crazy. But then she also pointed me to said blog today in which cousin goes on and on about how good it is because it is obviously REALLY about how as Christians 'we' should be sure that Christ will come again. JEEZ.

― KitCat, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

See you next Tuesday!

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

Pretty in Pink OST belongs on some kind of list, too:

1. If You Leave - OMD
2. Left Of Center - Suzanne Vega/Joe Jackson
3. Get To Know Ya - Jesse Johnson
4. Do Wot You Do - INXS
5. Pretty In Pink - The Psychedelic Furs
6. Shell Shock - New Order
7. Round Round - Belouis Some
8. Wouldn't It Be Good - Danny Hutton Hitters
9. Bring On Dancing Horses - Echo & The Bunnymen
10. Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want - The Smiths

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

That was an xpost.

Sarah, I'm just going to validate your belief that your cousin is crazy.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

It's like she enjoyed something SECULAR and now must rationalize to herself that the reason she did so was because it's really an allegory for god's plan.

― KitCat, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

If it ain't about Jesus, it ain't about shit.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

I bet she doesn't even listen to good gospel music, Sarah.

I don't think I should talk about what I eat for lunch anymore, because this crazy-ass company cafeteria is just going to make me sound like I'm bragging. Okay, last time: Moroccan almond-encrusted salmon w/couscous and butterscotch oatmeal cookie.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

That's pretty crazy. I'm going to go get a burrito from a new Mexican place.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

I had the Repo Man soundtrack on vinyl but one of my college roomies BROEK it in a drunken tumble.

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

Oooh, lunch...

Actual manuscript title, just submitted today: "Feedback and its Feedback Effect on Feedback"

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

LUNCH IS HAPPENING SOON. HAPPENING AGAIN!

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

I'm finna have a turkey sandwich with mustard and avocado, grape tomatoes, and an apple for lunch. EIGHT POINTS.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

yum.

― horseshoe, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

And gnocci with turkey sausage and spinach for dinner. Points TBD. Probably around ten per serving.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

I still like EZ's idea of a night where bands perform covers of songs from '80s soundtracks.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

Leaving me five points for either desert or beerz.

I could eat a lot more if I drank less.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

EZ should cover When the Shit Hits the Fan.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

I think I may have a French dip with frites. How many points is that? I need more points, man boobs be damned. I'm hongray.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

EZ should cover When the Shit Hits the Fan.

TOTALLY. On solo piano, natch.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

Feedback and its Feedback Effect on Feedback

lol

Jenny, that sandwich sounds good.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

Depends on where you get it from. Fries are like nine points per serving, generically. A small sub roll is three, roast beef can range from four to seven or so, depending. Au jus is probably a couple. You're probably looking at around 15 - 17 points, I'd guess, roughly. For comparison, I get 24 points for a whole day.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan, it's roasted cajun turkey or something like that, even. The tomatoes are a side item, in case that wasn't clear.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

That sounds even better. Mustard and avocado, aw shit.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

My favorite soundtrack (cassette I wore out in high school, with New Order Brotherhood on side B is from Jonathan Demme's Something Wild. Other than New Order, I never got into any of these other bands, but I liked these songs.

1. Loco De Amor (Crazy For Love) - David [Byrne] Y Celia
2. Ever Fallen In Love - Fine Young Cannibals
3. Zero, Zero Seven Charlie - UB40
4. Not My Slave - Oingo Boingo
5. You Don't Have To Cry - Jimmy Cliff
6. With You Or Without You - Steve Jones
7. Highlife - Sonny Okossun
8. Man With A Gun - Jerry Harrison
9. Temptation - New Order
10. Wild Thing - Sister Carol

― Eazy, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

I love that the menus on menupages are careless scanned in, resulting in items like:

Reuben Corned Beef with superkrunt, swiss dresse and house island

SUPERKRUNT!

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

Brotherhood is my favorite NO album. I had an Oingo Boingo phase in jr. high school, and I still love Jimmy Cliff.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

I'd like to cover "TV Party Tonight" too.

(Hey, by the by, I'm playing a show tomorrow night. I'll send out an e-mail in a bit.)

― Eazy, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

Superkrunt!

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

Can somone start a new thread? Too long.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)

is kenan on weight watchers too?

― sweet tater, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)

bye

― KitCat, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)

I am not on weight watchers. I was just idly wondering if you can assign points to what is obviously not a weight watchers lunch by any stretch.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

bye sarah! have a hootenanny of a time!

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

Have you guys been to Pho 777?

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

YES. Tank Noodle is my fave, but 777 is pretty good. Avoid 888, though. It's run by elementary school children and smells... suspicious.

Points values are based on some complicated calculation involving fat, fiber, and calories so you can figure out the points of any food, as long as it has fat, fiber, and calories.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

Sad truth - cajun roasted turkey breast is too salty and spicy in an inelegant, overpowering way and thus not so great on this sandwich. Live and learn!

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

Dammit Jenny. I'm a'tryin' to chat with you!!

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

I spilled most of a huge bowl of Pho onto my lap at that place.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

Did you know you can get an unsecured wifi signal at the Sheridan train stop?

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

I seem to be unable to use gmail chat at this time.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

I would like to hear some Smashing Blumpkins. I don't think I still have a copy of Siamese Dream. Boo.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

(I say, that blumpkin was first-rate-- smashing!)

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

I've never had Vietnamese in Chicago, mostly because I was afraid that there'd be fish sauce in everything. But now that I eat seafood on occasion, it's no longer an issue -- although I'm still a little hesitant, because I don't know how to trust that I won't find random unwanted fish bits in whatever I order. This is borne mostly of prejudice, but I know that a lot of Argyle Street destinations serve some pretty weird stuff. Anyway, Kr wants to have Vietnamese tonight, and it seemed like Pho 777 and Tank Noodle were the best-reviewed.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny, let's just chat here then.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

John--how about dinner in MILWAUKEE? Beans and barley is smashing.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

Beans and Barley.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

That was a very disappointing burrito.

― n/a, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

Tank Noodle might be closed - they were going on an extended vacation but I can't remember when it ended.

Both Tank and 777 will accomodate vegetarianism, and they both have vegetarian sections on their menu. If you go to 777, I highly recommend the lemongrass tofu. At Tank, I recommend the vegetarian spring rolls. Holy shit those are amazing.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

(I would like to have dinner, but don't think I will be joining you if it's Vietnamese.)

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

At Tank you can get rice noodle soup with tofu if you want a pho-esqe experience without the meat. I usually ask for the pho side-fixins (limes, basil, that other thing that I don't know what it is, and bean sprouts) and just fix up a little dish of hoisin/siracha and dip the tofu just like it was beef. Works really well, tastes delicious.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

if man is 555
and the devil is 666
THEN GOD IS 777

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

Disappointing burritos are disappointing.

Found while looking for something to do on Saturday night:

[i/Madison Area Overeaters Anonymous Meetings
Health Daily until 12/31/69 [/i]

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

If Krista is not dead-set on Pho, maybe we could do Glenn's! That more dericious than Pho.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

If Krista is dead, can we go to Glenn's?

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

That more dericious than Pho.

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m134/johnjusten/rcstcat.gif

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

Hahahaha I love that gif.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

I think we're going to do Vietnamese. What is Beans and Barley, though?

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

It's a granola-ey restaurant in milwaukee that Chris and co. and I went to. 'Twas good.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

jenny, hold off on the fan letter, violet really is a terrible ref. not as bad as say, dick bavetta or jess kersey or ed rush but she's inconsistant and that "doesn't take shit" attitude ALWAYS sucks in a game official. once the ref takes an active part in the game they've overstepped their role.

dan & jesse, thanks for coming out last night. the bartender was not looking hott but looking good none the less. i was confused by the hot topic goth/mall punk look she had going on.

mcdonalds on chicago & state, i love that you're open 24 hours so that i might take solace in 4 a.m. cheeseburgers.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

Even I like Beans & Barley.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

Was that Justin Timberlake on the bartender's shirt?

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

Glenn's Diner finished third in the Restaurant Club Best (and Worst) of Year Seven poll that I conducted. The first-place winner was an "underground" restaurant (as mentioned in this WSJ article), so it probably wasn't totally fair.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

I am eating a freshly cut papaya. Now THAT'S a sexy fucking food. Cutting papaya is a sensual fucking experience. Though that opinion may have to do with the memories eating a papaya while tripping. I was too fucked up to peel it so I just smashed my face into it.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

Was that Justin Timberlake on the bartender's shirt?

probably, i know her & her friend katie (who was at the other end of the bar) went to see him.
who was that girl you were talking to at the end of the night? the one i'd met before but whose name i forgot? because i forgot her name again.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

not as bad as say, dick bavetta or jess kersey or ed rush

That's kind of my point. She might not be good, but she's not the only bad ref in the NBA and yet, you don't hear "YOU SUCK DICK BAVETTA"* at games the same way people yell out "YOU SUCK VOILET" when she's officiating. Even conceding that she is a bad ref, and I don't know enough to make an independent judgment for myself, she gets less leeway to make bad calls than male refs do.

This sort of ties in to a theory I have that true equality only comes when dominate society doesn't pounce all over your jock when you fuck up.

*Well, maybe in our house.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

How do I find out who the other two refs were at the game last night?

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

This guy link wants]http://dating.personals.yahoo.com/profile?cmd=view&adid=personals-1022641348-244887&src=wvm&done=http%3A%2F%2Fpersonals.yahoo.com%2Fwvm%2Flist%3Fpagenum%3D1[/link] me. What do you think.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

I think you're terrible with the faux-BBCode.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

:( That makes my mangina bitter.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

jesse he's a cutie!

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

I'm surprised anyone knows the names of any refs.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

jenny, i think you're off the mark. dick bavetta is hated by fans, columnists, players, coaches, and announcers and takes far more shit than violet does. i'm also not ready to say that she gets less leeway to make bad calls. every ref takes a ration of shit for the calls they make, maybe you notice violet taking more shit because you notice violet more in general.

i'm not saying that she isn't in a really tough position or that her gender never comes into play, i'm just saying she's a lousy ref undeserving of a fan letter. i know she's blazing a trail but i wish she were better at it is all.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

How do I find out who the other two refs were at the game last night?

box score in the newspaper usually has it. i didn't buy a paper today though.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

No! I'm not off the mark. Dick Bavetta was one of the refs last night (#27 Dick Bavetta , #12 Violet Palmer , #60 David Guthrie) that never once did I hear anybody yell shit to him. There were choruses of "YOU SUCK VIOLET" coming from the stands, though. Bavetta might have gotten a boo or two but NOTHING like the whole arena booing him, at all. The fact that I didn't even know he was officiating until I just looked it up just now supports this. Jeff will confirm it, too, as would Magum O'Shea, who was also in attendance and remarked on the phenomena as well. The guys behind us shouted insults at her the whole game: Go home, Violet. You suck, Violet. etc.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

Blazing a trail sideways, into that (very contemporary) time when no one trusted women to call sports games.

(Note: I know nothing about this argument.)

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

xpost - Aye! Box score on the Bulls website, too. :)

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

Bavetta and the other guy got the generic, calls against the home team responses. Palmer got personal insult shouted at her from the stands. That speaks to a lot more than fans taking issue with her capabilities.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

i guess those dudes were taking a break from their normal thursday night activities of smacking around bartenders. that sucks jenny.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, even odds you were sitting in front of off-duty cops.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

God, I was talking about that story with my coworker at lunch. He said he wouldn't have stepped in either! WTF? The cops are a gang, sure, but I still don't think I could have kept myself from smashing a chair over his head.

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

You would have been in far worse trouble than him if you did that.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

those dudes were taking a break from their normal thursday night activities of smacking around bartenders.

Ha! Those dudes and 10,000 of their closest friends.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

Waht?

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

My understanding is that the cop turned his rage on the bartender because she stepped in to prevent the the cop from wailing on the guy who just stood by and watched her get her ass kicked. Classy!

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)

here Jordan

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

I might have been in more trouble, but at least I wouldn't have done nothing.

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

Holy shit I just watched part of that video for the first time.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

I couldn't watch the whole thing. I feel kind of sick.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, damn.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, that video is something else. It's got that authentic vintage Rodney King vibe. Only maybe even worse, because dude is PUNCHING A WOMAN IN THE HEAD REPEATEDLY, AND THEN KICKING HER WHILE SHE'S ON THE FLOOR. It's like, holy shit, dude. That's some real-ass violence right there.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

she broke up a fight with the cop then the cop ordered a beer and she shut him off. he said "nobody tells me what to do" then pummeled her. in the video you can see a guy making a cell phone call. he wasn't calling 911, he was calling one of the cops other cop buddies to come get him and smooth things over.

it's so fucking disgusting. if that happened in front of me i would've taken a beer bottle to the guys head. and if it happend at my local or at HC i would've taken a beer bottle to the guy's head then slit his throat with the broken neck. then i would've been carted away by the cpd and made to disapper like they were the ton ton macoute or something.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

xpost.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

Conversation last night:

Magnum O'Shea: Can you believe that people like that carry badges and guns and have police authority?
Everybody else at the table: Ummm... yeah?

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

I am not a violent man, but I am a large man (bigger than that piece of shit, I might add) and I cannot imagine acting in such a fashion let alone sitting by and allowing someone else to act that way towards a much smaller, innocent person.

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

Yes indeed you would have.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

xpost to kev, i mean, about being made to disappear

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

he was calling one of the cops other cop buddies to come get him and smooth things over.

That gives me the rage on so many levels.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

Magnum O'Shea: Can you believe that people like that carry badges and guns and have police authority?
Everybody else at the table: Ummm... yeah?

hahaha NO SHIT. In fact, I have a really hard time believing that all cops are not "people like that," though I have heard rumors to the contrary.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

That guy is not a beat cop, he is a "tactical officer" meaning SWAT or some other "specialist" group.

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

beat cop

Horrible (even for me) unintentional pun, there.

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

Me, too. And I know, cops have one of the hardest fucking jobs I can imagine and I know cops personally who are nice people and who got into it to protect citizens and put bad guys in jail but but but but... Yeah.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

And I know, cops have one of the hardest fucking jobs I can imagine and I know cops personally who are nice people and who got into it to protect citizens and put bad guys in jail but but but but... Yeah.

i think it's kind of hard not to give into the temptation to paint all cops with a broad stroke. it will be the same thing when you pass the bar jenny. i know you're COMPLETELY different, so different that it's bizarre you're even in the same profession, but a small part of me automatically equates lawyers with peter francis gerace.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

BUY MY INFO TAPES.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

lol

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

I kind of love Peter Francis Gerace because he's so flipping weird, but then again, I'm not convinced he's a real person, much less a lawyer.

I think part of my inner conflict re: cops is that out of the times that I've had to interact with the police in a duty-related situation, only once was the cop NOT an officious, condescending prick. And that was a really nice Oregon state trooper, so he was probably high. But the other times, whoa. It's the kind of attitude and tone that makes me immediately angry and defensive.

A good friend of mine is a Philladelphia city attorney and defends cops in a lot of civil suits and it's interesting to hear things from his point of view, too.

Free Mumia! Heh.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

I kind of love Peter Francis Gerace because he's so flipping weird, but then again, I'm not convinced he's a real person, much less a lawyer.

i don't remember the specifics now but his divorce was chock full o' wtf's. something about him rooting through garbage and spy cams and restraining orders, the dude is a total fucking nutter.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

jenny: some video that will piss you off amazingly

So what happened was, this all went down more than a month ago, and the police saw the tape at that time. They still decided to charge the dude with misdemeanor battery. Here's a lawyer explaining that it's because he didn't break any of her bones.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

Holy fucking...I don't watch the news, so this is the first I've heard of something that apparently broke open two whole days ago (more ribbing from my boss about my obliviousness) but WHO ARE THOSE MEN WHO DID NOTHING?????

― Laurel, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

xpost to myself: the arresting officers didn't even cuff the cocksucker.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

and said cocksucker, after he sobered up, came back and tried to bribe the woman not to press charges

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

HO MY GOD THAT NEWS BROADCAST

― Laurel, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

CPD takes care of their own.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

I'm only learning about this just now, too. Laurel, I think you're excused because it's a Chicago story?

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway, the bar looks depressing as shit, who do you have to be to even DRINK there? Answer: apparently you just have to be Andy Havian's friend AND A GREAT GUY, REALLY, I MEAN, HE ISA POLICE OFFICER, THAT'S A STRESSFUL JOB.

― Laurel, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

Right. And fuck everybody else.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

xpost to jenny

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

jaymc -- with video that compelling (if that's the word for something that gives you knots of rage in your stomach), it's a national story.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

I keep thinking of that knucklehead cop(s) in the Wire.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

haha Which one? The bald meathead?

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

If you google "bartender police attack chicago," you get a site that's hosting the video, and then reports from Channel 5, the Tribune, Channel 2, and the Sun-Times.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

So ... not exactly national.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway, the bar looks depressing as shit, who do you have to be to even DRINK there?

i know where it is (belmont & central, pretty much for chilxors), it's in a very blue collar area of chicago called belmont-cragin and is still home to a lot of shitty bars like that one. there's one corner around there (it might be belmont and laramie or belmont & central) where all four corners are taken up by dingey sports bars.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

Okay but my boss knew about it and so did the other two colleagues I just queried and all were amazed that I DIDN'T. So based on my anecdotal evidence it's at least coastal/urban in some way. And the bar still looks like shit.

― Laurel, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

XP :D

― Laurel, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

I can see where this should be national news, and I have cynical suspicions why it's not, besides the standard "horrible shit happens every day in other places so why should our horrible shit be any more important" reasons.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

washington post update from yesterday

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

jenny, no reason to be cynical before we dispel the idea that john doesn't know how to use google news

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

haha Which one? The bald meathead?

Yup, that dude. The desk-mover.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

haha yeah. That's a great scene.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

Cynical is my natural state of being. And be nice to John. It's almost his birthday.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

I am so tied-up with anger. I couldn't even finish my bacon.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

That's pretty fucking angry.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

I can see where this should be national news, and I have cynical suspicions why it's not

but it IS a national story. the video wasn't shown on chicago tv or hosted by any local papers until a station in SLC had it on there site. it became a bigger story in chicago after the video came out in utah.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

LOL, no shit. What kind of thing is that to say?

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

And be nice to John. It's almost his birthday.

:) Ok. Hugs, John.

(but srsly: "view all 377 news articles »")

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

"Haha, what the fuck, I'm sitting in a bar called O'Malley's on the northeast corner of Belmont and Harlem -- this is either Chicago or Elmwood Park ... What a crowd here -- young guys that remind me of guys I went to high school with, with long hair and Sox caps and -- I don't know: actually, they're hard to describe, because they're all pretty normal-looking, but you know they probably, like, listen to Pearl Jam and maybe they have a soul-patch and a tattoo ... just something so SUBURBAN I can't quite put a finger on ("You Shook Me All Night Long" just came on the stero) ... okay, and then there's this older guy like in his 50s -- in a shirt and tie -- and I don't know, probably something he said, but I have this impression he's a high-school teacher, he was asking the kids next to him at the bar where they'd gone to high school ("Oh, you're like my wife and got a GED? ... I've got a master's degree, my wife has a GED") ... some dude wearing a black belt with denim shorts. Oh and good luck getting a PBR around here -- though I'm set with my Old Style ... (Last two musical selections: Black Crowes, "She Talks to Angels," and Rod Stewart, "Maggie May" -- again, this is sort of perfect.)"

-- my journal, May 24, 2006

Later, there was a bar fight. Some dude was talking to a 30s-ish woman at the bar, and then the next thing I knew, she fell off her stool and an older woman (50s) interceded and was yelling at him to get the fuck out of the bar and never come back. And the woman at the bar was crying, and the older woman kept telling her that she had to file a report with the cops, that she shouldn't stand for this, and somehow along the way I picked up that it was an ex-boyfriend that wouldn't leave her alone.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

I know how to use Google News. I use it all the time.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

Note: I was assuming it wasn't national without checking on it based on Laurel not knowing about it and John's post. I was wrong and I take it all back.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

However, I had no idea this was a national, or even local news story until a half hour ago or whenever you guys started talking about this. I don't watch local TV news, and the only newspaper I read is Red Eye once or twice a week. Forgive my ignorance.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

"Good luck trying to get a PBR around here"

Irony.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

WALLOW IN THE CONTRITENESS!

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

belmont and harlem used to be a really really mobbed up area in the 60s to the early 80s.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't knwo anything at all about this until today.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I read the Red Eye allllll too often. There's just enough time on the way to work to read it cover to cover. Which gives you the paradoxical feeling of being less informed than when you started reading the newspaper.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

this story was on the cover of the Red Eye Tuesday, I think.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

i think the red eye actually does make me stupider.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

god, that NBC anchor.

"unfortunately for him, he's had 12 years on the force, and now almost certain termination".

oh, THE POOR GUY.

i'd been avoiding watching the whole video because it makes me sick.

― JuliaA, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

This was on the same page as the Trib story.

http://snsimages.tribune.com/media/photo/2007-03/28580603.jpg
Area Man Is Outraged by Police Beating and Cover-up

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

I had confirmation of similar suspicions when I sat next to a mentally challenged fellow (the sub-four-feet-tall guy who started rubbing himself in the seat next to me, for those that remember that CTA tale) who had a Red Eye with him.

I've taken to just buying a damn paper instead. Although I'm not sure the Sun-Times makes me feel any less stupid.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

I am a big fan of the Chicago Public Radio archives for local news. The best local news stories from 848, etc, are up usually the same day that they're broadcast, and you can pick and choose the ones that you find interesting.

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

how can we forget that tale, jenny? you seem to encounter allll the crazies on the CTA.

― JuliaA, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

Am I the ONLY person who has never seen trainsturbation?

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

I think what this cop needs is a session with Bud White, the Russell Crowe character from LA Confidential who gets a sadistic thrill out of beating up wife beaters.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

i absorb local news from tv ads and scanning tribune headlines--i should start looking up stuff on the npr site.

― JuliaA, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

You are not missing anything, Jesse. Believe you me.

― sweet tater, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

:( I think we can all agree that violence just begets more violence?

― horseshoe, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

― horseshoe, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

oh DUDE. i like that idea. (bud white)

― JuliaA, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

Though I'm not normally a fan of vigilante justice, it seems to me that the only way this guy is going to get what's coming to him is for civilians to beat him about the head. It's more of a direct action.

Still, the part that really drives this home is the subsequent cover-up attempt.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

oh, hey horseshoe, have you gotten my emails? i wasn't sure if i had the right address.

― JuliaA, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

Whoa WTF. This is the first I've heard anything about this story as well. That video makes me sick.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

:( I think we can all agree that violence just begets more violence?

No, of course. Fortunately Bud White is a fictional character.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

yes, Julia, sorry! I will respond as soon as I figure out my stupid schedule!

― horseshoe, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

I like the idea of banding together as citizens and demanding police accountability on this matter. And others (like the bi-polar lady that the cops let lose in a bad area who subsequently was raped and jumped out of a building, for example) while we're at it.

No violence, just hold the god damn CPD accountable for their thugs.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

i hadn't heard of the story until now & cannot bear to watch much of the video. my heart breaks. it is so unbelievable.

― sweet tater, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

Is the CPD jealous and trying to strive to reach levels of LAPD + NYPD douchebaggery?

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

We will NOT be in 3rd place!

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

I think the CPD has been there and done that, frankly.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

The other thing that freaks me out is that it's not too hard to imagine this kind of thing ending up with him shooting someone. The first month I lived in the city an off-duty cop was mugged or otherwise attacked by at least two guys about a block from my house, and he blew one of them away. This is just about the only thing that would make me think twice about stepping into a situation like what happened in the bar.

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I mean that the CPD hasn't exactly reached Rodney King/Amadou Diallo levels of national media exposure for this type of shit. Not just yet anyway.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

i wouldn't think twice about it. that woman was someone's daughter, someone's wife, someone's mother and there is no fucking way i could watch that happen in front of me and not do something.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, you're right

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

In other news?

A funny bit of Spanglish from restaurants-- "set-upear" (pronounced set-up-ay-ar), meaning "to set up." Conjugations:

yo set-upeo
tu set-upeas
usted/el/ella set-upea
ellos set-upean
nosotros set-upeamos

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin OTM. Not quite to this same scale, but I was at a bar in college and jumped in when I saw this dude punch his girlfriend in the face. I grabbed him and swung him around... before I could even throw one punch about 6 of his frat buddies were on me and beating the shit out of me. I ended up getting thrown out of the bar (two of his frat buddies were employed there), getting two black eyes and a bloody face. Best part? The girl who got punched spat at me outside the bar and told me to mind my own fucking business.

But you know what? If I saw another dude punch a girl right in front of me, I'd do the same thing all over again.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

At least it's regular.

― Laurel, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

― Laurel, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha Laurel

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

Nice non-sequitir.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

The girl who got punched spat at me outside the bar and told me to mind my own fucking business.

Oh Stockholm syndrome... Still, good job and keep up the good work. You might end up saving someone's life that way, and I am not being dramatic.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

More work story:

Last night I had a table of 4 people who I immediately knew were "industry" because they were young and ordering campari and soda and beautiful and expensive wines. Turns out the host is the manager of that fucking delicious Morroccan restaurant where I had my date. They spent $400 and tipped me 50% (!) and then the guy gave me his card and said "stop in and ask for me", so I have a contact at one of my favorite restaurants.

The weird thing is that they stayed 2 hours after closing. That's not a very "industry" thing to do!

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

Not if Starbucks take over everything there won't.

― gatinhaaa, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

did the 50% tip make up for that over sight.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

er, oversight and question mark.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

Hmmmm.... I don't understand?

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, I'd stay two hours late for a $200 tip. Shit yeah.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

^^^ that's what i meant. did the tip make up for them over staying their welcome?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

Two months until the farmers' markets start!

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

70 minutes until my weekend starts!

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

btw: i think jesse's right about a new thread, but let's wait until monday morning.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

Not if Starbucks take over everything there won't.

I don't understand. Fucking no xpost notice.

They tipped that before they stayed late.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

And yes, I was happy to stay.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

I think the Starbucks comment was from someone who got lost and posted in the wrong thread.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

Got lost. That's kind of absurd.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

What great and awesome thread title will we have next?

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I'm trying to find the thread about independent coffee shops, and they're talking about tipping, but I really have to say this, so what the hay.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Meat Renaissance!

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

That's good, but we need Greater! Awesomer!!

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

how about Chicago: The CPD Started Whalin' On Me!

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

I TOOK A PICTURE LAST NIGHT OF THE ATM OUTside OF the Holiday Club. Someone had punched a hole in the "Stop punching me" sign, and punched the screen too.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

(Ramones tribute)

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

Apparently they put the sign up because people repeatedly break the ATM. The owners tried to charge the HC for the damages.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

I repeat my personal favorite "Chicago: Do you want tamales? Tamales?"

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

I like the "stop charging me" response to the "stop punching me" entreaty.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

OK, one more work post and then I'm done--

I'm going to now bitch about people (mostly skinny women) who are competitive about not eating.

It happens all the time. You get a group of women at a table and they race to see who's most anorexic.

Last night it was 4 women. One woman said repeatedly that she had been looking forward to coming to Catch all week because she just loves the Australian lobster tails, and OMG I'm going to get the grilled lobster tails, this is going to be so great, etc. The other women asked me about the Sea Bass and I told them it's the chef's specialty. They seemed sold.

So I brought them cocktails and I heard the skinny bitch at the table say "Wow, I can't believe you are going to order that. It's so much food! I could never eat all that. I'm just going to get an appetizer." Sure enough, one by one, they ordered less and less. They were going to have soup or salad to start, and then entrees, but by the time the skinny bitch was done, 2 of them got mussels appetizers and one got a SALAD. Guess what the fucking skinny bitch did. She ordered an entree.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

I think I'm going to swing by Border's on the way home and pick up The Watchmen.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

haha

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

I'm actually supposed to borrow the books from a co-worker soon!

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

Sounds like the skinny bitch outsmarted them.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

Hey FFS - in case I forget - have a good time on your minitour!!!

I know this is old news, but I read this as
"Hey, for fuck's sake, have a good time on your minotaur!"And I thought, that would be no fun at all.
http://aom.heavengames.com/hg-aom/pix/news/minotaur.jpg

Guess what -- I'm still sick today! Something tells me the shitty vodka had nothing to do with this.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

OH. And she also talked them out of a bottle of wine! She used the same tactic--"Do you really think we need a whole bottle [you raging alcoholic--how can you imagine 4 people can drink a bottle of wine?]--I'm just going to have part of a glass...."

It's not even about trying to make a sale. When I go out I hate when someone else eats or drinks way less than me. I feel like a drunk pig.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, prolly not, not from two drinks. But on my last (and likely last ever) run-in with the plastic jug vodka, I imbibed quite a lot of it, and I was sick for two day. The next day I was just DESTROYED, like dry heaves and such. The day after that was a persistent headache, muscle aches caused by dehydration, flu-like symptoms. On day three I regulated.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

The shitty vodka is so relieved! Now you can drink it with impunity next time, since you know it's not the hangover...or not JUST the hangover. I'm sorry, tho, for sickness -- I'm looking forward to being 100% well again this week and it will be AWESOME.

― Laurel, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

I am not looking forward to working tomorrow, from home or otherwise. :(

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

Those women in the restaurant should be chastised for being so easily influenced by their alpha female. That's shameful.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

Amanda, cheap vodka lives in the wells of many nicer restaruants. My work has decent well (Absolut, Tanqueray, Dewars, Meyers Silver) but our sister restaurant has some scary fucking bathtub shit. You know a liquor is bad when you seem the same name brand on 5 different types of booze! Their marketing is not the only way they cut costs.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

So what's in it? Poison? Would two drinks of this swill make me sick for two entire days?

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

Straight up grain alcohol. A lot of those cheapo well/rail boozes are just grain alcohol + whiskey/gin/rum/whatever flavoring.

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

Sometimes I want to order less, but feel I will be looked at askance by my friends, most of whom are dudes (and ladies) who know how to eat.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

Amanda -- there can be all kinds of nasty in improperly distilled vodka, but the one that gets you is methanol. That's antifreeze to you and me.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

Jesus. I really did not know that. It explains a lot, though. I just have a hard time believing that it could make me sick for two days? I'm not that tender a flower.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

also these

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

God, that's just disgusting. It really is poison.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

Yep. I mean, you could argue that ethyl alcohol is also poison.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

Such a liquor may be referred to as rotgut.

Ah, gotta love Wikipedia

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

When I go out I hate when someone else eats or drinks way less than me. I feel like a drunk pig.

i was taking it kind of easy last night but still put away a number of beers. the number i was charged for? 2.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

I doubt it would make you sick for 2 days.

As for those women, in this case there was a clear leader, but plenty of other times it's a round-table effort. The competition doesn't stop when the food arrives. I've seen a crab cake sit for 15 minutes before they even looked at it (literally, as far as I could tell). Then sometimes people will cut off tiny, tiny pieces of improbably things like sashimi or sushi rolls.

I hate people.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

This is semi-related to the topic and goes back to whoever was talking about dirty tap lines yesterday, but the rumor flying around Champa1gn when I was down there at school was that K4m's (this uber-shitty Greek bar) had a six foot tapeworm in their line when it finally got cleaned out. Probably not even possible, but it wouldn't have surprised me either considering how nasty the rest of that place was. Either way, put me off tap beer for quite some time.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

I love sushi rolls.

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

I was charged for a bourbon, a beer and a burger. (Well, actually a portobello sandwich, but I hated to ruin the alliteration.)

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

I feel like puking.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

Ha! That same tapeworm rumor circulated around a nasty bar in NC called College Hill. You could easily get a draft beer with... particles... floating in the bottom of it, though. Gah. Also their bathrooms were easily the worst thing I have ever seen. Ever. Across all catagories of things that could be bad.

When I go out I hate when someone else eats or drinks way less than me. I feel like a drunk pig.

This is why we make such a good couple. It's like a race to the bottom of drunken piggery.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

manda: You may want a nice vodka tonic someday, and I don't want to scare you off all vodka! So I always recommend this stuff. It's super-distilled, clean as a whistle, tasty, and best of all, not terribly expensive! If it's not the cleanest vodka you can buy, it's certainly the cleanest for $25 a bottle.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

I remember when Jenny, Jeff, Courtney and I went out to one of our regular bars in Gboro NC that smelled of vomit and smoke. We had a newbie friend with us who ordered a beer on tap. We all watched slack-jawed as he did so. But we didn't stop him. We just told him after he paid.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

But I also love sushi rolls.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

Amanda, I hope you feel better soon! That's such a nasty feeling. I've had a stomach virus tag along on the heels of a hangover before and it just sucks.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse's post is about the same bar as my post!

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha - xpost about College Hill bar

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

It's just hard to know if this is my fault or not, y'know?!
I am ashamed to admit that in spite of this I am not scared off of vodka. It has never treated me this badly in the past. If bad experiences with alcohol led me to stop drinking a particular beverage, there would be nothing left to drink.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

Hahaha. Weirdly enough, I'm still thirsting for an ice cold beer right now.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

Amanda, maybe you got what Courtney had. Did you guys make out recently?

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

We totally did.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

They had pretty enthusiastic karaoke, though. I sang Love Will Keep Us Together there once and an old drunken bum regular joined me on stage, which was fine with me, but then kicked him out in the middle of my song.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

Sometimes I go out to a dive and order "a gin and tonic" and then I quickly say, "NO! Wait! I want a Tanqueray and tonic!"

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

I always ask what the well liquor is before ordering well liquor. Sometimes they'll surprise you with a high-quality well.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I learned quickly to specify that Tanq every single time.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

And, of course, overcharge you for a bigger name. For instance, if the well is Ketel One, don't bother paying more for Absolut! Ketel One is much better!

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

I think there's something about ordering a name brand that puts me off, which is why I tend to order "gin" or "vodka." I realize that this is stupid, but mama didn't raise me to buy name brands.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

Unless I'm buying the whole bottle and then I know that I get a good drink-to-dollar ratio.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

one of the bartender's at the bottle hipped me to the fact that tanq and tonic is only $0.50 more than the shitty cheap gin they use. god bless him.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

Now I know.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know of any establishment anywhere that has Ketel as their well.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

I feel uncomfortable about specifying brands, too, but I don't think it's about the "name brand" as much as just not wanting to appear fussy.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

About the only time I specify liquor brands is when I order martinis and that's because of a rotgut cheap gin martini phase that nearly killed me and surely contributed to the wearing away of my stomach lining, the after effects of which still plague me today.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know of any establishment anywhere that has Ketel as their well.

I swear, I've seen it!

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

I don't feel too fussy specifying a brand, though. Pouring you a Ketel One and tonic is no more trouble than pouring you a well gin and tonic. And as a former bartender/server, I loooooved people who specified the good schtuff because then I was likely to make more money off them.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

It always surprises me when people order a gin or vodka martini without specifying brands.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

The upcharge is only .50 between Absolut and Grey Goose at my work, btw.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

omg! Absolute is a step above plastic jug vodka, imo, and Grey Goose is incredibly good.

Ah, the French.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

Some people say that ordering a name brand and tonic is silly because the tonic water is going to overwhelm the badness inherent in any crappy booze. FWIW.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

sapphire tonics c/d

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

For flavor, I can see that. Also overwhelms the goodness, probably. But it's not going to remove the impurities that will make you hurt.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

Part of it's that I don't always know what brands bars have. I'm not really a liquor drinker -- I only really ever drink gin, and so all I really know is that I like Bombay Sapphire. I can't tell you what other gin is considered good.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

I always liked them. But I have had my share of Gordon's as well.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

Some people say that ordering a name brand and tonic is silly because the tonic water is going to overwhelm the badness inherent in any crappy booze. FWIW.

This was the case with a plain "gin and tonic" that I ordered at Hothouse the other night.

Do you say Bombay and tonic or Sapphire and tonic? Or Bombay Sapphire and tonic?

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

"Sapphire Tonic" will be fine, I'm sure. Bartenders are busy. What do they need with conjunctions?

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

I also think that if you drink enough of any booze, you're going to feel like shit the next day. And if you don't drink much rail booze, the impurities aren't going to do you that much harm. Basically, it doesn't matter.

I would probably not get a Sapphire and tonic just because it doesn't seem cost effective. But I'm all into gin rickies these days anyway.

Mmmm... rickies...

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, this is why I like to make drinks at home. I know what I'm getting, I can add whatever I want and it doesn't cost $9 a pop, so I can afford it.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

Grey Goose is incredibly good.

man it's not. my ex loves it and it's the preferred brand of my wednesday night drinking companion but it's all hype.

sapphire tonics c/d

dud, sapphire makes a great martini though. my thursday night bartender drinks sapphire & tonic, i prefer tanqueray.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

There's Bombay, then there's Bombay Sapphire.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not big on gin, but I do hear the name Boodles sometimes, along with some grand string of superlatives.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

So have we concluded that my stupidity in ordering two drinks made with well vodka did not make me sick for two days?

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

Why is it "vodka tonic" but "gin AND tonic"? Answer me that, Mr. Cheever!

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

Boodles sounds like an inane children's cartoon character.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

Saphire:Bombay::Tanqueray 10:Tanqueray.

Tanqueray 10 is too smooth for a Martini for me. Unless you stir it, but that's too high-maintenance for me to order.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone ever had this?

http://www.shakersvodka.com/main/index.html

Very good, quite cheap iirc, and MADE IN 'MERICA!

(Jesse this is the stuff I mentioned last night, from MN)

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

It's "voda tonic" because of the vowel at the end. If it was called "gin-o" it would be a gin-o tonic.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

but it's all hype.

See, I was suspicious of it, too, because *too* many people had told me how good it is. So there is some hype. But I think it's also really fine -- very very low on the solvent taste, with a hint of... berries? Something sweet. Delicious.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

There's Bombay, then there's Bombay Sapphire.

I had no idea!

What is the reputation of Beefeater? Kr bought a bottle recently, and I made myself a gin and tonic. I thought it was giving me a headache, but I may have had the headache already.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

I say "sapphire tonic". But for some reason I cannot say "tanq and tonic", it's "tanqueray and tonic."

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

Good God.

The Holiday Club had an Italian vodka. The pour spout was shaped like a snake's mouth.

And someone at the bar had a toy snake.

And I was horny. For trouser snake.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

hahah You're no beefeater.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

beefeater:gin::smirnoff:vodka

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

I love Beefeater. I like my martinis to have a little kick to them, and as I said, T10 is too smooth.

Trouser beef.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

which isn't much help, i don't guess. It's mid-range to low-mid-range.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

beefeater:gin::smirnoff:vodka

That doesn't mean anything to me.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

i hear some people LOVE beefeater for that very reason, jesse. It has a whoop-ass flavor.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

It's hard for me to shake the feeling that I'm paying for the label, not for the quality.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

amanda -- you are. But aren't you usually?

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

A rep was telling us the Secrets They Don't Want You To Know.

Apparently Gordon's Gin is rebranded Tanqueray. And William's Is Rebranded Glenfiddich.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

And he told us that trouser snakes are just rebranded regular snakes.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

oooh, i haven't had a tanqueray 10 since the summer! i might stop off for a burger and a beer instead of a slice on my way home.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

Well, usually I do not buy the expensive label of anything, so I don't even think about it. But if the cheaper version will actually make me endure physical pain/illness (not the case with off-brand cereal, for instance) I will spring for the good stuff. But not if I'm paying for a marketing campaign.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know, I can tell a huge difference between Gordon's Gin and Tanq.

My fiancee swears by Effen vodka, but I'm not a vodka guy so I don't really know.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

For Kev: UMass defeats Clarkson 1-0 in OT.

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

Amanda -- I feel you. I wish I had better recommendations, but I really have only one little-known-vodka up my sleeve, and I am faithful to it wherever they have it. When you find something that's good and you don't feel like you're being TOLD to drink it by somebody else, you get a special little tingle and more brand loyalty than you would otherwise. It's The Marketing of No Marketing.

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

I usuall spring for better booze at home because I'm not in college and I don't have to buy Popov anymore.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

ok guys, i'm out of here. Anything huge happening tonight?

― kenan, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

Exactly!

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

oops that was for yenny.

it's why i was going to buy that fancy whiskey in scotland, but didn't and regretted it. now i can't even remember what it was called. oh well.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

Since I didn't really drink in college, I missed out on the fun of drinking cheap-ass swill because that's all you can afford. The first time I got drunk was on red wine and Guinness. The first beer I ordered in a bar was Sam Adams Cherry Wheat. I am sure I have shared both of those factoids before.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

I'm kind of over the whole super premium vodka thing. I mean there is room for craft in anything, but really I think the biggest reason it hit big with vodka is because most people drink it shaken to shit, or covered up with mixer, so all you can taste is smooth, and there is a huge market full of those now.

That said, Ciroc is a nice vodka.

I'm hoping for some craft rums to start appearing. Ten Cane is awesome. It's got more in common with tequila than with typical rums.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

GO MINUTEMEN!

they have a really awesome rink out there dan, they didn't even skate until about 10 years ago, then they played two seasons as D III and a year or two as D I independant before joining hockey east. they were cellar dwellers for two years then a middling team now they're one of those teams (with providence, unh, northeastern) who from year to year challenge the entrenched powers that are bu, bc, and maine.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

Oooh, see I like rum. Mmmm.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

What's a good mixed drink with rum besides a Cuba Libre?

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

Mojito?

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

I like to sip it plain, but MOJITO springs to mind. Also toss a little mango nectar and lime into a rum + soda mixture and you have ambrosia.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

Or rum + fruity soda water (like la croix) and fruit nectar of any kind is good too.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

Pina coladas?

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I like mojitos.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

Amanda, try Ten Cane on the rocks, or straight up (not to be confused with neat).

Mojito
A caipirinha can also be made with rum.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

Also toss a little mango nectar and lime into a rum + soda mixture and you have ambrosia.

I want this.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

Whatever happened to daiquiris? Do people still drink them?

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

Fruity people do.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

Also: Notre Dame leads Alabama-Huntsville (or, "Team WTF" as I like to call them) 2-0 in the first.

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

i am going to be drinking pbr tonight at the bottle but something with fruit and rum and tropical-ness sounds great. we should really make plans to go to hala kahiki and i mean make solid plans. me and john have brought this up before but we really should.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

Caipirinhas are good, too! Jesse, do you remember when you and me and Jeff went to that new "Latino Fusion" place on clark st. and I drank two of those and a mojito and was really bizarely chatty with the waiter? That was a fun and different kind of drunk than what I'm used to (which would be more of a mean and maudlin kind of drunk).

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

weren't we talking about uah last night?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

Southerners be hockeying.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

i rember in the 80s looking at their schedule and their closest away game was in columbus ohio.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:00 (eighteen years ago)

that's a motherfucker of a bus ride home when you lose.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:00 (eighteen years ago)

MMMm I had a YUMMY drink at La Fonda that was passion fruit nectar (maracuya) and aguardiente. MOTHER that was good.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:00 (eighteen years ago)

Whatever happened to daiquiris? Do people still drink them?

GO TO NEW ORLEANS.

People from out of town comment on how funny it is to see straight--even burly--men drinking daiquiris. But these are no girly drinks--they're made with 151 and/or Everclear! Plus Ernest Hemingway used to drink daiquiris.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

i prefer daiquiris to margaritas.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

I like margaritas when they're not frozen.

― La Lechera, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, we were both expressing disbelief at how they made it into the tourney, when they would be pwned by any random mid-pack WCHA team (well, the second half was my opinion).

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

This double-barrelled conversation is making me dizzy.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

I want to go to New Orleans soon. Who's in?

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse OTM, those daiquiris will fuck you up. And you can get them via DRIVE-THRU.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to put Is This It? (Strokes) into my CD player and glue it shut. I love this! How did I miss this album until this week?

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, I'm going the first weekend of May.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

Dude, those daiquiris are strong enough, but when you mix in some Xanax jimmies, you're in TROUBLE! (True story.)

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)

we'll take mojiiiiiiiiiiiitoooooooos/somebody buy the band a drink/we take mojiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitooooooooooooooooos/somebody buy the band a drink

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)

God damn, I've been whining about how slow today has been for hours and it's been 5 pm for over five minutes now and I JUST NOTICED!

I'm out of here. So long, suckers.

― Jenny, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)

COWORKERS, WHY WON'T YOU LEAVE?

I want to go home, but I can't leave earlier than them every single day, esp. when I come in later.

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, we can listen to Is This It? on the way to MILWAUKEE tonight.

― jaymc, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:12 (eighteen years ago)

http://chicagoburgerproject.blogspot.com/

― Jeff, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:18 (eighteen years ago)

The dude with the glasses looks familiar.

― dan m, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/163/431816841_695dc727de.jpg?v=0

You guys aren't seriously going to Milwaukee, are you?

― Jordan, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:33 (eighteen years ago)

Yes. Why not?

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:39 (eighteen years ago)

Yay for listening to Is This It. I was going to ask you if we could.

The Burger Project needs to go to McClanahan's.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

I'm confused by the English school system. I know that "public" schools are for the rich. But what are comprehensive and grammar schools? And then they talk about "private" schools too.

I'm watching the "21 Up" DVD of the 7 UP series.

― Jesse, Friday, 23 March 2007 22:46 (eighteen years ago)

21 up is good. So is 28. 35 and 42 were weak points for me. 49 was pretty good.

― Jeff, Friday, 23 March 2007 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

uh... hi. Is anyone left in Chicago?

― kenan, Saturday, 24 March 2007 02:51 (eighteen years ago)

I'm still left in Chicago. Just got done watching Half Nelson.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Saturday, 24 March 2007 04:41 (eighteen years ago)

My Goodness.
My Guiness.

So here's the run-down:

Drove to Milwaukee in a hurry because the place (which had earlier said they never sell out) said they might sell out, so get there early. Got there at 9-ish. No danger of selling out that early.

Saw a hipster girl whose likeness surely could be found by GISing "blonde redneck woman." She had feathered and sprayed dingy, brassy dyed hair with roots; trailer-trashy outfit of tight stone-wash jeans, loose jacket; and a necklace with her name rendered in twisted brass wire. The absolute topper was her eyewear--HUGE 80s welfare glasses (big frame with the arms coming from the lower quarter of the frame).

Girl Talk came on at ass o'clock. I texted my favorite wonderful Catholic interns who go to school at Marquette and they wanted me to come by at around 1, but the act didn't start until around 12 (slated for 10:30).

The show was great! I was dancing like I'd never danced before. (Anytime I hear Maniac I sing "She's dancing as though she's never danced before.") Something is different in me these days because I never danced so actively and enjoyably as I did last night. (I kind of suspect some weird unconscious process of change is taking place as a response to the recent loss in my family.)

Anyway, I left the spot where John, Kr ("") and I were standing in broken stemware and danced on the back of the stage where it was at least 10 degrees hotter than the rest of the steamy bar. Watching Mr. Girl was interesting. He hunkered over his laptop with a constantly scrolling screen and danced in place. The group fucked up the power strip and there was a scurrying to keep the show going.

The opening act was DJ Juicebox who kept shouting, "Hey Chicago!!" As Krista pointed out, this didn't seem odd since it seemed like we were in Chicago.

On the foggy ride back home we stopped and peed on the Mars House of Cheese. Then we took a moment to stop and get a snack and do this
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/182/432282371_c3e6b8a283.jpg?v=0.

Then at 3 AM I went to Uptown Lounge where the first thing I saw was a cocktail waitress and a patron lying on the floor laughing, surrounded by a lot of broken glass, ice, liquid, and a cocktail shaker.

― Jesse, Saturday, 24 March 2007 12:11 (eighteen years ago)

(That used to say "SPEEDY REWARDS EARN FREE STUFF")

― Jesse, Saturday, 24 March 2007 12:12 (eighteen years ago)

From my mother's sleep I fell into the State,
And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
Six miles from earth, loosed from the dream of life,
I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.

This poem has been running through my head over the past day or so. It ('The Death of The Ball Turret Gunner" is the title) is one of my favorite poems. It's by G'boro native Randall Jarrell who taught at UNCG, and who died at his own hand by walking in front of a car in Chapel Hill.

― Jesse, Saturday, 24 March 2007 12:23 (eighteen years ago)

And this poem is fucking amazing too

Wilfred Owen

"Dulce et Decorum Est "

Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame; all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of tired, outstripped Five-Nines that dropped behind.

Gas! GAS! Quick, boys! -- An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time;
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime . . .
Dim, through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under I green sea, I saw him drowning.

In all my dreams, before my helpless sight,
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues, --
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

― Jesse, Saturday, 24 March 2007 12:30 (eighteen years ago)

And RJ's son works at Simon's doesn't he? Or there is some RJ connection to Simon's, if you'll recall.

You're up really early for having not gone to bed until awfully late. Also, I'm glad you guys had fun! Yay for dancing!

― Jenny, Saturday, 24 March 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

morning chicago.

i looooooove animal collective.

― kenan, Saturday, 24 March 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

I just realized that I had a dream about Jessica Simpson last night. WTF.

― Jenny, Saturday, 24 March 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

ok, so these shure earphones sound amazing! very very impressive sound from such tiny things. Really natural, no "bass enhancement," none of that shit. BUT... here's the issue. They're also earPLUGS, which means they isolate any inside sounds as well as excluding external sounds. Which means that between songs, you can hear yourself breathing. If you make any sounds yourself, it has that boomy inside-the-head resonance. Worst, though, is the sounds you make when you move. They of course have wires, and when those wires move, it makes a sound in the earplugs, which means that for optimum sound, you should be doing what I'm doing now, sitting and not moving at all. Walking makes two sounds that interfere with the music a good bit: the sound of the wire moving, and the boom of each footstep as your foot hits the ground.

All that said, these are the best earphones I've ever had audiophile-wise. I can hear the difference, maybe for the first time ever, between mp3 bitrates. The sound is just beautiful.

― kenan, Saturday, 24 March 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

oh noes jenny is MEDIA SATURATED

― kenan, Saturday, 24 March 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

these people annoy me

― JuliaA, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

but i am kind of delighted that i managed to post a link.

srsly, i wish the media could discuss ways that an average person could be more environmentally conscious, rather than portraying ultra-extreme people who decide not to use toilet paper to save the trees.

― JuliaA, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

And they have not had the heart to take away the vacuum from their cleaning lady, who comes weekly (this week they took away her paper towels).

Wow. I don't even know what to say to that sentence, except that their cleaning lady ought to find another job.

― Jenny, Saturday, 24 March 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

And RJ's son works at Simon's doesn't he? Or there is some RJ connection to Simon's, if you'll recall.

No. You're thinking of Fred Chappell.

― Jesse, Saturday, 24 March 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

By god, you're right. I am thinking of Fred Chappell. Dave's brother.

― Jenny, Saturday, 24 March 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

Did John have his birthday yet? I just wanted to pop in and say hi to you all and happy birthday to John. Hope you're all doing well, KIT, BFF, etc.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 24 March 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

John's party is tonight, but I don't know if today is the actual birth day or not.

― dan m, Saturday, 24 March 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

Some Like It Hot. Funny.

― Jeff, Saturday, 24 March 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

His birthday is tomorrow.

― Jeff, Saturday, 24 March 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

Someone give him the appropriate number of birthday spanks for me, thanks!

― Casuistry, Saturday, 24 March 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

Hi Chris!

Yeah, Jeff is right: my birthday is tomorrow. I just took a nap and I'm about to shave.

― jaymc, Sunday, 25 March 2007 00:15 (eighteen years ago)

I also just did my yearly duty and revived Ronan's birthday thread.

― jaymc, Sunday, 25 March 2007 00:17 (eighteen years ago)

Potential David Caruso CSI line:

[finding big hairy dead guy in a sundress]
"Apparently...
[puts on sunglasses]
some like it dead."

― Eazy, Sunday, 25 March 2007 00:38 (eighteen years ago)

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW

― Jenny, Sunday, 25 March 2007 00:40 (eighteen years ago)

Somebody had to do it.

― Jenny, Sunday, 25 March 2007 00:40 (eighteen years ago)

Happy birthday jaymc. Celebrate lots, just avoid the bars where off-duty cops like to congregate.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Sunday, 25 March 2007 02:32 (eighteen years ago)

Who needs friends when you can eat sushi by yourself?

Actually, it would be nice to have gone with a friend or two.

― Ivan, Sunday, 25 March 2007 04:06 (eighteen years ago)

Dag, then, email us. We like sushi.

That's the royal we.

To all the girls: Jeff is OOOKay. He's making cheese toast.

― Jenny, Sunday, 25 March 2007 07:00 (eighteen years ago)

Happy birthday Jaymc. The smoke was killing me but I was glad to make the tail-end of the party.

― Eazy, Sunday, 25 March 2007 08:04 (eighteen years ago)

I like sushi rolls. And butter rolls.

― dan m, Sunday, 25 March 2007 09:42 (eighteen years ago)

Just to all the girls?

― Casuistry, Sunday, 25 March 2007 09:50 (eighteen years ago)

Hey dude -- I'm v. sorry I did not make it to your party. It just wasn't gonna happen. Hope everything went well.

Nice day today, huh?

― La Lechera, Sunday, 25 March 2007 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

I was using "girls" in a gender neutral sense.

― Jenny, Sunday, 25 March 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

I've got a hell of a neck ache.

― Jeff, Sunday, 25 March 2007 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

:) :)

― Jordan, Sunday, 25 March 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

Guys, my pussy is on fire. I must have slept on it funny.

― Jesse, Sunday, 25 March 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

Dulce et decorum est my mangina.

― Jesse, Sunday, 25 March 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

My mangina is sweet and proper.

― Jesse, Sunday, 25 March 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

(C/D: referring to one's mangina in gustatory terms)

― Jesse, Sunday, 25 March 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

DUDE, WAY CLASSIC!

― Jesse, Sunday, 25 March 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

Hi Jesse.

― Jordan, Sunday, 25 March 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

Observed at: Hill Farms, Madison, Wisconsin
Elevation: 930 ft / 283 m
[Scattered Clouds]
80.1 °F / 26.7 °C
Scattered Clouds

80? 80?!?!?

― Jordan, Sunday, 25 March 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

Whoa. Holy shit. I just noticed that it's 76 here!

― Jesse, Sunday, 25 March 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

I enjoyed last night's comedy (and boobs). I liked the joke that went sort of like this "people often mistake me for a lesbian. Lesbians look and me and want to move in with me...buy a house...build our own furniture...have opinions....

I also thoroughly enjoyed the facial expression of the woman dressed as a bumble bee.

― Jesse, Sunday, 25 March 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

And Kenan was a part of the show, handing the MC his fifth of Jim Beam and cutting up.

― Jesse, Sunday, 25 March 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

Comedy boobs?

― Jordan, Sunday, 25 March 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

happy bday jaymc, i spent all weekend helping my sister move.

― t0dd swiss, Sunday, 25 March 2007 22:28 (eighteen years ago)

My neck still hurts. Did someone get a better view of exactly what I was trying to accomplish before I smashed myself on the ground?

― Jeff, Sunday, 25 March 2007 22:50 (eighteen years ago)

As near as I could tell, doing an impression of someone slipping on a banana peel.

― dan m, Sunday, 25 March 2007 23:48 (eighteen years ago)

Body Worlds was weird as hell. I touched a human kidney and liver.

― Jeff, Monday, 26 March 2007 00:33 (eighteen years ago)

Today was great. A couple of hours sitting in the open front windows of Nick's drinking lots of Blue Moon, followed by grilling and a nice dinner... this is how all Sundays should be.

But now I sit here reading all the follow-up stories on these two Chicago cop stories and I find myself getting more pissed and more discouraged. One, I hope that this city loses the Olympics for this shit and two, I wish there was something I could do to fight this bullshit. I've never been so disgusted in this city.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 26 March 2007 04:29 (eighteen years ago)

Today:

-I saw a guy on the train with a hot pink button affixed to his WGN tote that read, "FUCK YOUR GOD."

-There was a guy beat-boxing at the Belmont train stop. He was amazing. His name is Jasper, and he was really friendly and talented.

-I discovered that there exists in this crazy, mixed-up world a fountain that dispenses Scope.

-I ate mussels and there was a bad one in the batch. :(

-I drank some Scope.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 March 2007 04:57 (eighteen years ago)

Ask A Faulknerian Idiot Man-Child

Dear Faulknerian Idiot Man-Child,

Because of a job promotion, my husband and I recently moved from Boston to Louisville, where I don't know a soul. I don't want to stand in the way of my husband's career, but I miss my friends back home terribly. Any advice?

—Lonely In Louisville
Dear Lonely,

Through the fenceposts on the hill I could see them hitting, across the pasture towards where the flag was. Me and Cornpoe was looking for to find some balls that had gotten lost so we could get a nickel, but I wasn't looking too hard on account of it felt so nice to see the men there on that bright green field, and Cornpoe was just sniffing in a bush not saying nothing because she ain't but an old hound. I sure did love that old dog, but that was before the truck come down the road and I yelled for Cornpoe to come back, but she didn't hear and the noise from the motor was so loud it filled my head up with the roar and then it was too late, too late. And the crash, and the noise from the horn blowing, like it was saying Yah. Yah. Yaaaaaahhhh.

Dear Faulknerian Idiot Man-Child,

I have had it just about up to here with our new washing machine! We paid top dollar for it, and it's under warranty, but every time the repairman fixes it, within days it's broken again. It has never worked right, and they can never figure out what the problem is. I want my money back! Am I being unfair?

—Irritated In Erie
Dear Irritated,

I done told that old nigger that I weren't allowed to go out in the rain, on account of my needing my medicine-pills and my coat being none too dry, but he just kept on saying Don't you know we got to Go. Go and saddle up old Bess and get on our way Right Now Boy there ain't no time. I said no no no and then he made like he was about to commence to beating on me and I started cryin' and then I looked up and he was cryin' too. His face went all soft and he said goodbye and take care of your sister like a good boy. As I watched him and Bess going on up that road in the rainy night I kept thinkin' how it dint need to be this way, it could've been diffrent. Lord knows it could've been.

If anyone can find me the "Ask a Traffic Cone" one, I'd like to read it. I can't find it myself.

― Jesse, Monday, 26 March 2007 05:21 (eighteen years ago)

WOWZ. Lost is good again!!

― Jesse, Monday, 26 March 2007 06:25 (eighteen years ago)

Is it a bank holiday or something today?

― Eazy, Monday, 26 March 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

New thread, dog.

― Jordan, Monday, 26 March 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

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