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― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:17 (eighteen years ago)

I love you all so much!

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

PIZZA! (eventually)
SUN! (now)
WEEKEND (almost)!

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

You're all very nice people with pretty hair.

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

And I have a beautiful voice.

me: i was waiting on a table of leo burnett people and they told me "you have a great voice--we work with talent and you should be on the radio."
Jen: oh good grief
me: ha ha!
Jen: when does your new career in radio start?
me: then THEY ASKED ME TO SING!
Jen: now i'm going to have to hear how you have a great voice for radio for the REST OF MY LIFE
me: and they signed me to a major label
it's not the first time! people have said this at least on 2 other occasions

Jen: hold me closer tiny dancer
me: and they said i danced like the wind too
Jen: and fucked like a tornado?

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of parties, Nick's bday is May 15th. We should do something.

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

Mine is May 12th!

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

so close to hugglez and polar bears

― g-kit, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny's ***** is on M*y 11!

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.bbspot.com/Images/News_Features/2005/01/unicorns.jpg

― La Lechera, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

Brunch this weekend! Sayjal's play tonight! I will be done with law skoo forever by Jesse's birthday!

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)


We should start a new thread every 100 messages just to piss them off.

-- kenan, Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:51 PM (Yesterday)


Well, we unintentionally accomplished this....

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

I am missing a birthday party AND graduation party? THIS BLOWS.

In other news if anyone wants to see The Thing join us at the Hideout tonight.

― La Lechera, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.setzler.net/images/prints/nature/NW13-RiverOtter.jpg

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

I want to rename this thread "An Otter Named Thanatos"


WHOA!!XPOST!!!!!

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

FREAKY!

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

'Sup.

http://www.fws.gov/littlependoreille/Otter.JPG

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

In early mythological accounts, Thanatos was perceived as a powerful figure armed with a sword, with a shaggy beard and a fierce face. His coming was marked by pain and grief. In later eras, as the transition from life to death in Elysium became a more attractive option, Thanatos came to be seen as a sea otter who brought delicious mussels and clams to parties.

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

In other news if anyone wants to see The Thing join us at the Hideout tonight.

This sounds kind of fun. However, I only slept like 4 hours last night. So it probably won't happen.

I'm going to jump back to the evil Chicago thread to complain about something.

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

Well, off to edit on Wikipedia's "Thanatos" page....

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

¿QUE?

http://www.eco-pros.com/images/WaterDwellers/Photos/44150_OTTER%20SPOT.JPG

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha-- I like splitting into Chicago Light and Chicago Dark.

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

Otters have been my favorite animal since like forever, so I appreciate the flood of photos. I think -- honestly -- but otters were the first thing I ever did an image search for.

― La Lechera, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

Otters are fine, but they're no sloths.

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

I, too, have an abiding love of otters. We have been watching the Planet Earth series on the Discovery channel and there were some river otters giving a big old crocodile the business and OMG CUET and now otters are my new sloths.

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

Dude, river otters will gang up and fuck with a crocodile. They would totally ruin a sloths day.

Wait, should we take this to the other thread?

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

ps i am not talking about butt otters. just regular ones. i don't know where that 'but' came from.

― La Lechera, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

are you referring to Mats Gustafsson's The Thing in that earlier post? Man, I wish I could see that! If only it was NEXT Friday instead.

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

YES I AM!

― La Lechera, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

Stingy when do you get into town?

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

Ok I go to work now, but I want you to know that thanks to otters, I am in GOOD MOOD. That, and sunshine.

― La Lechera, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

butt otters? wrong thread, ma'am. allow me to direct you to the "i have, like, no gay friends in this town" thread. there is a lot of talk of otters there, and it's safe to presume they are of the butt persuasion.

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

jenny and courtney and i are going to a show at 2nd city's 2nd stage tonight. our friend sayjal produced it and is starring in it.

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:36 (eighteen years ago)

I wish the Hideout had a mailing list or rss feed. I never know about their shows early enough to plan. I hate having to wade through poorly designed websites. I just want the content delivered to me.

― Jeff, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

I tried to deliver it to you a couple of weeks ago! They're playing tomorrow night too, if you can't make it tonight. It's just that we're going to be there tonight, and well, I dunno. Could be fun.

― La Lechera, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway. To work.

― La Lechera, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

next Thursday at some point in the day. I forget. Afternoon. I'm bummed that I'll be missing the last night of Super Trivia here, but I guess I didn't think my team would still be in contention. We tied for the best score last night, with rounds about River & Joaquin Phoenix, The Simpsons, and a round where you had to guess the top 10 US retailers in terms of sales, AND put them in order (that was really tough).

Anyway, I'm sure I'll have a blast up in Chi-town. I noticed that the head dude from Tigersushi records is going to be playing Emtpy Bottle on Sunday, along with that Brightblack show on Friday. Plus I hope the Bulls are still in the playoffs (although they really hurt themselves losing that last game vs New Jersey).

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

Guys I really really love the new album by the National, which is called "Boxer." It's just, you know, kinda mellow sad bastard indie rock but with nice low vocals and a neato drum sound and good songs that aren't too long. More "subtle" than the music I usually love but hey it's really good, take my word for it.

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:44 (eighteen years ago)

KEnny just said something new! He's in his cage chattering away and he said, "blah blah blah blah blah."

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

Punch him.

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

I was just looking at the Hideout's website. It says that tonight there will be DJ sets by Mats Gustafsson ,Paal Nilssen-Love, and John Corbett. Is this the same John Corbett from Sex and the City and Northern Exposure?? That would be really odd. The dude does have an album though. Check this:

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000E5KTZW.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_SS500_.jpg

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha, what a dork. Can you imagine the photoshoot for that album cover? John Corbett wildly thrashing around with his guitar in a field somewhere.

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

psh, look at you guys, stealin DC's otters

― pretzel walrus, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

(actually - not sure yet, but i might be swinging into yr burg in early august for a conference, in which case brodowns should totally happen)

― pretzel walrus, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

Amazon also suggests that I buy his album alongside Toby Keith's "White Trash with Money."

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

I thought it was weird when I saw Kenny again just for a second the other day, and he immediately made a sound that I taught him. Little dude is creepy smart.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

Ok, it looks like it must be [Removed Illegal Link] John Corbett instead, bummer.

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

crud. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Corbett_(writer)

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

Can you imagine the photoshoot for that album cover?

I just did, and it made me lol.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

Kenny kinda freaks me out. It's the cold, cold eyes.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/220/466142391_c3d4911369_m.jpg

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

So how long do you think we can keep good & evil Chicago threads going before other ilxors start freaking out? :>

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

Ooh, someone sent me a zip of that National record but I haven't put it on my iTunes yet. I wasn't that into their first one, but the consensus is that this one is way better.

― jaymc, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

Chicago Thread and Mr. Hyde

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

It doesn't feel like Friday.

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

It will in a couple of hours I bet.

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

(especially for you since you finish so early on Fridays)

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

The other thread has river of Ghostbusters II slime under it, you know the shit that makes you all angry for no reason.

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

it feels like saturday. WTF am i doing at work?

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

Oh water, water, I crawl toward you across the burning sands of my headache....

― Laurel, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

oh laurel, did you do in your head last night?

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

Not SO badly actually but I'm also wearing my not-right contacts today so that's giving me eyestrain. More water can't hurt.

― Laurel, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

What does "cockaigne" mean when applied to food?

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

('cause it sounds like 18th century gay drugs)

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

The Corbett writer is a good guy. I don't know him well, but I ran into him on the street one day downtown and he told me that Vandermark was going to be playing in the library at the schoo of the art institute the next day, and so I went there the next day on my lunch hour and bam, free jazz in the library.

Champagne cocktail?

― Eazy, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

free free jazz?

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

"chicken soup cockaigne"

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

it's like champagne, only very naughty

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Cock·aigne (kŏ-kān')
n.
An imaginary land of easy and luxurious living.

[Middle English cokaigne, from Old French, from (pais de) cokaigne, (land of) plenty, from Middle Low German kōkenje, diminutive of kōke, cake.]


!!!

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

cockaigne is my new favorite place

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

It's 4/20!

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

international cockaigne day

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

We're not living in Cockaigne, bro.

― Eazy, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

when I went to Chicago in summer '05, Fred Lonberg-Holm had a weekly jazz thing on the back porch of the modern art museum near Northwestern, which was free. I happened to catch some of that, it was quite pleasant.

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

Fred Lonberg-Holm had a weekly jazz thing on the back porch of the modern art museum near Northwestern, which was free.

is that on mies van der rohe drive?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

yep, that's the one. and come to think of it, mies van der rohe was the answer to a trivia question a week ago, in a category all about the letter M.

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

i am lost, who is stingy?

and it it pronounced like selfish, or like stingray death?

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

He (he?) answered this a few weeks ago - stingy with money, pronounced -jy.

― Eazy, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

oh, kenanpaws

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

He is a dude who is moving to chicago next week who has asked for advice on various chicago things a few times.

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

He is a dude who is moving to chicago next week who has asked for advice on various chicago things a few times.

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm actually not moving for real until June 1, but will be in town next Thurs-Monday trying to find a place to live. We are looking in South Loop. My gf is going to be a resident at U of C hospital. I don't have a job lined up yet, but would like to work at a label or booking agency or somesuch. I used to be music director at WXDU here in North Cakalak.

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

oh, yeah, I remember you!

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

It's 4/20!

haha

I think 4/20 should be retired, because it's police code for pot. So it doesn't mean it's time to smoke pot, it means it's time to get arrested for smoking pot. And that's sad face.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, J. Kidder - a guy I knew in MN as a teenager, wrote me to say he played me on his show at WXDU.

― Eazy, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

This dude who I don't like (Republican) sent out a mass e-mail this morning, all "hmm, I found some interesting reading on the internet" and linked to the Snopes page on 420, lolz. :>

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't know him personally, but definitely recognize the name J. Kidder from our listserve. What's your band, Eazy?

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

i would reply to all "WHY ARE YOU SEARCHING ABOUT MARIJUANA?"

― chicago kevin, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

actually, dude, that page IS interesting! I assumed it was police code, which is one of the many untrue assumptions they debunk.

* 420 is the penal code section for marijuana use in California.

Nope. Section 420 of the California penal code refers to obstructing entry on public land. The penal codes of other states list different entries for 420, but none of them matches anything having to do with marijuana.

However, on 1 January 2004 the Governor of California signed that state's Senate Bill 420, which regulates marijuana used for medical purposes. This bill comes years after the term '420' was associated with marijuana and indeed its number likely was chosen because of the existing pop culture connection. This is the tail wagging the dog, not the other way around.

* It's the Los Angeles or New York police radio code for marijuana smoking in progress.

It's not the police radio code for anything, let alone that.

* It's the number of chemical compounds in marijuana.

The number of chemical compounds in marijuana is 315, according to the folks at High Times magazine.

* April 20 is the date that Jim Morrison, Jimi Hendrix, or Janis Joplin died.

Though these performers were strongly identified with drug use during their brief lifetimes and the emerging drug culture after their demises, none of them kicked the bucket on April 20. Morrison died on July 3, Hendrix on September 18, and Joplin on October 4.

* The 20th of April is the best time to plant marijuana.

There's no one "best time" — that answer would change from one part of the country to another, or even one country to another.

* Albert Hofmann took the first deliberate LSD trip at 4:20 on 19 April 1943.

This was indeed the case — his lab notes back this up. But this wasn't the source of "420," just an oddball coincidence. (For the pedants out there, Hofmann's first LSD trip, which was accidental, took place on 16 April 1943.)

* It's the code you send to your drug dealer's pager.

Yeah, right. All drug dealers recognize a '420' page as "Please be waiting on the corner with my baggie of wildwood weed."

* When the Grateful Dead toured, they always stayed in Room 420.

Untrue, says Grateful Dead Productions spokesman Dennis McNally.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

IT'S HITLER'S BIRTHDAY, YA'LL, THIS CALLS FOR A PARTY!

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

I can totally picture any number of squinty-eyed dreadlocked unwashed hippies I knew (read: tolerated long enough to buy w33d from) in college saying most of those things like they're the gospel passed down from heaven.

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

that's how I heard them!

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

It's like "What? What?? I don't know man, that sounds made up. OK, whatever. See you later."

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

Hi Chicago. Jenny your facebook cat is tres cute.

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

Ok. What was better, Notes on a Scandal or History Boys? It's movie night.

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

Jocelyn, HI!!

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

Remind me what you're up to these days. :-)

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

Who is KitCat now? I haven't been on here in ages due to no internets at work.
I totally want to see History Boys.

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah a.k.a. Sarah McLusky.

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

a.k.a. Sarah Johnson

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

Oh hello! I thought so.
I just got dumped on my ass last night so I came here for solace and otter pics.

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

Oh no! I'm glad you came here though.

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

:(

Hi Jocelyn

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

It's okay. I watched Golden Girls and ate some cheesy pizza.

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.otter.org/Harris%20Otter2.jpg

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

he's cute, but something about his expression makes me think he may be a little bit evil

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.myspaceantics.com/images/funny/bud-light-otter.jpg

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, but not the "Light" part.

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

OTM

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

otters are the intellectual property of DC threads, YOU GONNA GET SUED

Hi jocelyn!

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.fellowmortals.org/gallery1/BabyBeaverFeeding.jpg
Baby Beeaaavveeerrrr...

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

xpost DC thred = Google Image Search now? hunh.

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

GIS result #1 for DC thread:

http://www.crabsodyinblue.com/butthead.jpg

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

How about sea lions?
http://www.thenursery.tv/img/blog/Bucket.jpg

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

we have the rights to those, too.

― Mr. Que, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

HATERS

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

how are we haters

― Mr. Que, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

http://l.yimg.com/www.flickr.com/images/spaceball.gif

Bring your Baby Beaver to Work Day.

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gleam26/19182563/

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

lol baby pine marten is hueg

http://www.homestead.com/NATURESEYEPHOTOGRAPHY/files/pine_marten__1-8.jpg

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

Ok. Pine martens win.

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

whatever, anyway, with your otters and bucket-having things, Chicago gets the most beaver

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

blow up dolls are not beavers

― Mr. Que, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.juliesjungle.com/pictures/frostykids.jpg

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

xpost no, THIS is beaver, mofo

http://www.kdwp.state.ks.us/var/news/storage/images/hunting/fur_harvest/furbearer_gallery/beaver_castor_canadensis/11744-2-eng-US/beaver_castor_canadensis_imagelarge.jpg

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

Why are all these pine martens pictures so big? This one takes the cake.

http://www.wildernessclassroom.com/www/schoolhouse/boreal_library/animals/photos/pine_marten.jpg

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

xxpost Alone on a hill with a lonely goat/Yodelay yodelay yodelay hee hoo

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

Takes the cockaigne, you mean.

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

xxpost Alone on a hill with a lonely goat/Yodelay yodelay yodelay hee hoo

Harry Connick version of that tune rulez.

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

i do not share your faith in the ability of harry connick to rule

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, what? DC thread owns otters? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Wait - sea otters or river otters? Maybe DC could have sea otters and Chicago could have river otters? There is enough cute to go around!

PLEASE DON'T TAKE AWAY THE OTTERS!

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

I'm liking this Handsome Furs record this morning.

xpost: but we have MARTENS

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

Harry ain't nothin' to fuck with, all that Will & Grace bullshit is just a front.

(seriously, his new album is really good)

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

also, Aston Martins. I claim those for Chicago.

[ing][Removed Illegal Link]

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

you get the idea.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

The Oh My NOLA album?

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

AMANDA WHER ARE YOU THERE ARE PINE MARTINS HERE

― Laurel, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

alright fine i will download some harry connick, jeez

I downloaded some later-period George Carlin albums last night, and MAN ALIVE I got depressed. Here is what I learned form his 2006 effort: human life is meaningless, we are all at the mercy of nature, and if not that business interests, nothing is ever going to get better, there's no point in caring. THE MAN DOES 25 MINUTES ON SUICIDE. SHIT IS NOT FUNNY, IT'S JUST SOOOOO FUCKING GRIM.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

hooray for martens! my brother is up in the Alaskan wilds researching the wee little beasties. Here is one's 15 minutes of fame. They quite like the traps...warm and cozy, I guess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lFgXK2WltM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9uewuu-XbE

― sisut, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

Cute!

My adrenalin is up because this old lady just yelled at me for a while. She came to talk to someone in the office that leases from us, but no one is here. So I said I'd pass on this paper she gave me. But I knew the convo wouldn't go so well when she started by shaking and yelling, "SEE? SEE? NOW DO YOU SEE???" as she thrust the paper in my hands. I gently explained I had nothing to do with that company, but would relay her message. She responds by yelling, "YOU TALK TO MY BANK! YOU SEE! I THOUGHT THIS WAS ALL A PRACTICAL JOKE!..." I seriously told her four different times I had nothing to do with it and couldn't help her. She was shaking and yelling so much I felt like I was supposed to do something, like slap her or hug her. As she walked away I sort of inadvertantly said, "It's okay. It's going to be okay."

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

Shit. I should have said something assertive. When will I learn? I should have at least asked her not to talk to me in that tone of voice or said there's no need for yelling.

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

When will I learn?

Hahahha aww Sarah. It sounds like she's having a REALLY bad day.

― Laurel, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

IT'S ALMOST FUCKING NOON ON FRIDAY!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S FINALLY HERE.... POST-WORK BEERS ANYONE???? LATE LATE LATE SHOW TOMORROW IN WICKER PARK, 1 AM TO 5 AM. SUNDAYS ARE FOR SUCKERS.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

We might go hang out in the park after work. That's kind of like post-work beers.

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

yes, if post work beers were utterly disappointing.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

How is hanging out in the park on a beautiful day disappointing?

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I know. That lady's life is probably horrible, or at least she thinks it is. It still isn't fun to be on the other end of someone's rage against the world though.

I can't believe it's here either! I'm psyched for the park. I'm going to white hen first to get something fun to drink and a trashy mag.

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

no no, it's not disappointing if you're going out for a day in the park but if you're going out for beers it's utterly disappointing. i loved my saturday/sunday morning trips to the park last summer. a book, my cigarettes, an iced coffee... awesome.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

The Oh My NOLA album?

That's the one. I know he has another new one too but I haven't heard it yet.

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

WELLLLLL some of us are going to see Sayjal's show tonight:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/208/453933074_c9a7be629c_o.jpg

9 PM at Donny's Sky Box Theater on North Ave and Wells. Tickets $10/$8 for students. I don't know what's going on before/after that. I have class until four and then I need to go home and drop off my books/computer because I am totally over going to social events with my fucking backpack in tow.

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

dang, norah's working. who wants to find a new bar with me somewhere in the uk village/wicker park area? i think i'm going to need a new regular place.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

Who is Norah and why does that impact what bar you go to?

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

she is a friend of mine who lives close to where i work, we occasionally get together for dinner and drinks. but i need to find a new local anyway because the early shift bartender is a nice guy but a nice guy with lousy taste in music.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)

so since she is working i won't be going out here for drinks and instead will start my quest for a new local. early contender is rainbo because it's on the way home.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)

FYI, I'm probably going to wake up in Milwaukee tomorrow, and I just might make the rest of the trip to Chi then. We will see.

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan, get it over with and move here

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin I will go to all these W.P./U.V. bars as long as they are not super crowded.

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

I know, right.

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

hey speaking of blow up dolls there was this guy at the bar last night that put a shot in a blow up SHEEP's butthole and then drained it.



foul

― river wolf, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.novelty-gifts-heaven.com/acatalog/dollysheep.jpg

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

that's the one

― river wolf, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

oh no, srlsy?!

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

hey speaking of blow up dolls there was this guy at the bar last night that put a shot in a blow up SHEEP's butthole and then drained it.

They had these at the NOFX show I went to when I was like 15.

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

Because they were touring behind this album:

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc800/c806/c80632c8vjp.jpg

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

Opening bands: Snuff and the Lunachicks.

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, the Heavy Petting Zoo album cover. I had that and thought it was soo risque at age 14. Ah Youth!
I wish I was in Chi tonight. I think I need to move.

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

When I lived in Scotland those "Dolly" sheep were very popular at batchelor parties.

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

re: sheep -- someone was at Friar Tuck's last night! Or, wait, they might have a cow there.

― Eazy, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

EVERYONE MOVE TO CHICAGO

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

k

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

cool

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

Appropos of nothing, I would pay upwards of five American dollars to have this on my iPod right now.

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/B000025GN5.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

I think I have been saying for 3 years that I need to move. I also think this is normal post-breakup have to get out of town now behavior.
xp Free your mind, Jordan, free your mind.

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

I watched that video last night (got the Mark Romanek dvd from ntflx) and it made me as happy as I've been this week.

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha:

http://thecodefactory-data.org/journal-media/fake-fictions-at-darkroom-04-19-2007.jpg

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

WHAT IS UP WITH MY HEAD, GUYS?

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

Looks like massive sunburn + glittery eye makeup?

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

However, this photo is evidence that Sarah is cute in her glasses despite her protestations.

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

It is also evidence that I have no neck and red eyes.

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

agreed XPOST

― river wolf, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.top50singles.co.uk/2001/images/cover_1476.jpg

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

Nick kind of looks creeped out by something, while Sarah's laughing it off.

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

I am about to leave work and go bask in the sunshine, but I'll leave you with this discussion topic:

Glasses = cute, yes or no? (Not just on Sarah, on people in general)

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

you know my vote

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone says I look better/younger/thinner without them. So I guess on me, no. But definitely cute on some people.

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

CUTE. Especially on guys.

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

yo n/a to clarify: you met me at black lips, and pete when he stayed with you in chicago. i've never even been to chicago!

― pretzel walrus, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

Glasses are great, no arguments.

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

girls w/glasses = *swoon*

― chicago kevin, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

(my t-shirt courtesy of Jenny)

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

Somehow Nick's expression and his t-shirt make it look like he's doing a Jesse impersonation.

Sarah = cute glasses indeed.

Me in glasses, not so much (though for years when contacts were more expensive and there weren't the disposable kind available, I wore 'em a lot).

― Eazy, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

Actually I do think I look a little better without them, but I like glasses, and I'm sure as fuck not going to deal with contacts.

Girls in glasses are the best.

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

A truck just drove by blasting Chicago's "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?" which seems just right for the gorgeous day outside my window. I'm editing a transcript by a southern U.S. bank CEO today, so staying in but with the window open.

― Eazy, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

xpost yes girls in glasses are better than girls not in glasses almost every time

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha I just went to look for a similar pic of Jesse on flickr and almost all of my contacts' recent photos are for the college WDYLL thread.

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

http://img.slate.com/media/59/020606_lew_wasserman.jpg

Seems like a few times a year there's a reason to post a photo of Lew Wasserman on here.

― Eazy, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

It's so pretty out that I am driven to listen to one of my favorite records: Tears for Fears "Songs From the Big Chair". Laugh if you must.

I bought books at Borders. I got that on about the trees, and my heart leaped with joy when I saw that there are maps in the front of it. Every time I see a map in the front of a book, I feel like I'm a kid reading Lord of the Rings again.

I also bought the newest issue of Bust because Charlotte Gainsbourg is on the cover, and also because I have a vagina.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)

Record reviews in Bust: A+

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)

Just because you have a girlfriend doesn't mean that etc.

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

that I have a vagina?

Ok, I have a mangina.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

I work at Br0ders, and give Bust an A. I read a lot of magazines while on my break.

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

brodown at broders

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

Broders in Mpls. is a delicious pasta bar. If The Hold Steady makes three more records, I bet Broders will get name-checked somewhere.

― Eazy, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

All the kids left city center/
Dehydrated and broke/
Said Border's ain't much of a scene/
But the pasta might save your life

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

(or similar)

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

I like Bust. I also like Tears for Fears Songs from the Big Chair! Kenan and I are sisters.

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

Exactly. Broders is near 50th and France, which is in one of those songs...

― Eazy, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

I just made a UP thread for me and the ~3 other people who read this board who are from there.

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

Friends: We're meeting at the Clark St. Ale House at 6:30 for beerz and foodz before Sayjal's show so join us.

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

I believe fake Hold Steady lyrics could be a fun game.

Hold Steady mad libs, maybe.

[girl's name] didn't think she'd make it
after all the [drug] she had
she said, "I may not get out of [Midwestern city]
before the [alcoholic beverage] kills me."

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

I may or may not go to the show, but Clark St Ale House is a short walk away from me. Maybe I'll stop in and say hello.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe you will. Maybe you're pie. Pie be you're pie, Kenan.

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha. What is that from?

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

Or is that you just being loony?

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/202/466376305_6ba00d6471.jpg
Loony with glasses, as of 5 min. ago

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

Your wall is pixelated, you should maybe do something about that?

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

oh wow, when did you get that beautiful?

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, Kenan, you're totally going to get thumped in the haid.

― Laurel, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

Am I wrong?

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

"When did you stop beating your wife?"

― Laurel, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

I like my pixelated walls. They are cozy.

― jocelyn, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

i think it's the glasses. :)

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

It's getting to the point where I assume that any ILX gal I haven't seen before looks exactly like that, and it's a good look.

― Eazy, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

Laurel OTM

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

Every woman at the table was wearing glasses at the Duke of Perth during Kels visit back to Chicago.

― Jeff, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

There was at least 5, I think.

― Jeff, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

This is why I am on ILX, to surround myself with the lovely and bespectacled.

mwah, Jocelyn, sorry that came out wrong! I've been off my game all week. :(

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

That's right! It was pretty neat. And none of the dudes were wearing glasses.

Sarah, that's from the Simpson's. Homer says "Pie be you're pie, Lisa" to Lisa after she accuses him of not listening to her but thinking about pie instead.

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

xpost to myself Chilx needs to band together and beat me about the face and head with whiffle bats, and then I will learn my lesson.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

Okay. I will see you at 6:30!

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

:)

yes you will.

Hey feel free to get there earlier, because i can leave at 5 if i want to, and it's about 4 blocks away. I don't like killing time alone.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, of course, Jenny. I am so very ashamed.

― KitCat, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

NO SHAME!

NO FEAR, EITHER.

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.snowdesign.com/img/pf_nofear2.gif

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.michaelkrolczyk.com/images/upload/fearflea.jpg

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

Lee Ving is trying too hard there

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

Finest moment:

http://home.earthlink.net/~joeythorne/clue02.jpg

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

Mr. Boddy kills thread

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

appropriate?

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

Man I'm tired of working, only 40 minutes left! God bless Eastern Standard Time!

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

2 hours + :(

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

FYI, Plan 9 From Outer Space is going to be on TCM late tonight. I've never seen it, but my gf's mom's cousin co-wrote the Ed Wood movie with Johnny Depp, so I definitely want to see the real movie.

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

man I love Ed Wood. The movie with Johnny Depp, I mean.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, I really liked it too. have you seen Plan 9?

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

I have not.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

I's rather see Glen or Glenda, but I've never seen an Ed Wood movie at all.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

true, Glen or Glenda definitely sounds great. they're showing another one tonight as well, Bride of the Monster. also has Bela Lugosi

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

Plan 9 is pretty unwatchable. We checked it out at some point and couldn't finish it. I mean, I knew it was going to be bad, but COME ON

― n/a, Friday, 20 April 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

ok, THIS looks great

http://www.darkonthemovie.com/darkon_video.html

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, well I'll check it out over the weekend. I saw Superstar by Todd Haynes last weekend, that was pretty amazing. Anyway, it's 5:00 here so I'm gone! Have a good weekend gang!

― stingy, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

later mang

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

Hi.

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

get working on getting me a ticket, and I don't see any hors d'ouevres

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

Glasses are great and all, but some of us don't have vision problems. Should we wear fake ones in order to be cuter? No. There is no solution to this backwards problem.

Wait, there is a solution:
weasels
http://www.mirandala.org/images2/weasel.JPG
And DC thread "owning" otters is the dumbest thing i've heard in a long time, and i've heard a lot of dumb things lately due to the 'argumentation' segment of the semester.

the end. hail the martins. martens. whatever.

― La Lechera, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

la di da di weasels like to pati

― La Lechera, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

pati = how one of my students spells "party."

― La Lechera, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

wtf it is 4:15 on a friday? i feel like i woke up and zoomed through at least three days today.

― La Lechera, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

Stop flaunting your genetic advantages, Amanda.

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

that is an awesome weasel

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

that's what SHE said!

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

All showing off, looking at stuff from far away...

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/CCcard/FN-391-200~Short-Tailed-Weasel-Posters.jpg

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

i'm just sayin that everyone can agree at this point that girls with glasses look cute. i mean, everyone knows that, right? some of us don't need glasses and are therefore vision-gifted, but cute-disadvantaged. overall, though, it would be way less cute if i wore fake glasses, so i am at peace with this. it makes me want to pati.

― La Lechera, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

you are not cute-disadvantaged.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

what's up bitches, i can totally read that sign!
http://www.wildlifetrust.org.uk/cheshire/IMAGES/watch_weasel.jpg

― La Lechera, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/shop/images/weasel_photo3.jpg

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

You can wear fake glasses, just don't tell people they're fake.

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

Girls w/o glasses can be just as cute as those with. Don't believe the hype.

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

obv what amanda needs is some wicked shades

http://fabsugar.com/files/images/sunglasses.jpg

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

minks have little eyes
http://www.borealforest.org/zoo/mink.jpg

you should see my RIDICULOUS shades. they are hueg and leave an awful red mark on my nose. how to avoid that?

― La Lechera, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

chew gum, stick on nose

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

ok --time to go. have a good weekend dudes. look for me at hideout tonite!

― La Lechera, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

CHANGE OF PLANS

CHANGE OF PLANS

We will NOT be going to Clark Street Ale House because it is NOT NEAR ENOUGH to Second City. We will be at Old Town Ale House http://www.yelp.com/biz/dGUjOqWlsitxWGivmd58pw At 219 W. North, right across North Ave from 2nd City.

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

I was wondering why you were going to walk 10 blocks from the ale house, but I thought, well, maybe they have really good burgers or something.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

Ooh, old town ale house! pinball!

What time are you going to be there?

― Eazy, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

they say 6-6:30, but I'll be there earlier, probably reading a book.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

Come one, come all.

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

I doubt it will be THAT exciting.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

i'm just waiting to the newest, coolest term from the gay thread:

OTTERTRAP

― Jesse, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

They got books on the bookshelves there, y'know. I think I can make it.

― Eazy, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

I never understood pictures like this:

http://static.flickr.com/46/138535216_e339724fb0_o.png

That's a balanced breakfast. A bowl of fruit, a couple scrambled eggs, hashbrowns, bacon, sausage, some kind of breadsticks, biscuits and gravy, two muffins, a giant slab of coffee cake, a glass of orange juice, a glass of cranberry juice, a cup of coffee, a container of yogurt, and a bowl of Total.

THAT IS NOT A SINGLE MEAL BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION, GODDAMNIT, YOU FAT FUCK, CONTROL YOURSELF.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

what is that, 3000 calories in that picture?

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

aka "what I want for brunch, pls" (just lose the cereal)

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

breadsticks = FRENCH TOAST STICKS???

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

it looks like crazy bread from Little Caesars. There are also two medium pepperoni pizzas just out of frame. That's lunch.

― kenan, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

mmm. french toast sticks. i would eat my arm right now, though.

― sisut, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

That's called wanting to get your money's worth at the buffet.

― Eazy, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

There are happy frat boy-types out in our court yard playing music and a game that involves bean bags. I want to ruin their fun.

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

Are they CORNHOLING?

I'm at work foreveeerrrr :(

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know. I don't really want to ruin their fun, either. I just want to open my window without their fun spoiling the beautiful nature sounds that I would normally hear during spring in Lakeview.

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:18 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, that must be cornholing.

― Eazy, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

They'll probably toss rocks in if you do.

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

http://jmatt.net/blogpix/cornhole.jpg

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

There is nature in Lakeview?

― dan m, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, I hope this will be another text-less album cover of yours, Jordan, along with the long shot of you playing basketball.

― Eazy, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:22 (eighteen years ago)

There is a whole lake!

― Jeff, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

And we can view it! Hence.

― Jenny, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:26 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, I can't believe you remember the basketball, Eazy. I had forgotten that there was a pic of that.

― Jordan, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:38 (eighteen years ago)

i has a haircut

― Jordan, Saturday, 21 April 2007 01:08 (eighteen years ago)

i has a hangover.

Sayjal's show was really good, though.

― Jenny, Saturday, 21 April 2007 12:32 (eighteen years ago)

I am buying a coffee maker today. Here's what I want in a coffee maker:

1. 12 cup capacity. I don't have time for less.
2. Thermal carafe. I like to drink the coffee all ding dong day.
3. An easy place to put the water that doesn't leak.
4. An on-switch.
5. Availability at a local retailer.

Things that I do not want in a coffee maker:
1. Timer
2. Auto anything
3. Water filter
4. Built in grinder

I long for a time when home electronics were simpler. I think that's why I love the laundromat, especially the Mudroom. They have giant industrial washers with big buttons that you push for HOT WARM COLD and that's it. If you want to overcomplicate your laundry, you can just go fuck yourself. I don't need a coffee maker that tells me the weather or has a built-in mp3 player. I just need one that makes tasty coffee and won't break when I try to clean it.

― Jenny, Saturday, 21 April 2007 13:03 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone is laughing, riding and cornholing...

― Bill in Chicago, Saturday, 21 April 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

We just use a B0dum french press. It doesn't meet your requirements, but it IS very simple.

We watched History Boys last night. It was kind of weird, but entertaining. I suck at reviewing movies. For anyone who has seen it, I mostly loved watching the one kid sing. In fact, I would like to see a musical that takes place in the 30s and involves this guy singing the whole time.

I want Nick to wake up because I'm all pumped for going downtown this morning.

(Also, I LOVE cornholing)

― KitCat, Saturday, 21 April 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

The two problems I have with a French press are that it doesn't make enough coffee and it gets cold too fast. But those might be solved with this little beat: a 12-cup insulated press pot. And although it's not cheap, it's certainly a lot cheaper than a drip pot with a thermal carafe.

― Jenny, Saturday, 21 April 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

What are you kids doing in the loop today? I am hungry like the hungover wolf and keep wanting to go make some food but then I remember I'm meeting Emily for breakfast but NOT FOR AN HOUR!!!! :((((((

Sarah, Courtney told us of a magical brunch place where for $15 you can not only get all the brunch you can eat, but also four alcoholic beverages. WOW!

― Jenny, Saturday, 21 April 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

If you're in the neighborhood:

http://www.derekerdman.com/ilovemilkshakes/april2007/great_secret/LAW.jpg

― A Derek Erdman, Saturday, 21 April 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

And what a great day for an art walk it is! Wowie zowie.

― Jenny, Saturday, 21 April 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

In case anyone wants more info about the brunch place, ask Sayjal, not Courtney.

As for the beverages, you can choose from mimosas, bloody marys, and LITs!

― Jesse, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

bci
There are happy frat boy-types out in our court yard playing music and a game that involves bean bags. I want to ruin their fun.



Those are probably Abercrombie boiz.

― Jesse, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

ignore that "bci"

― Jesse, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

wait you hate playing bean bag games? you can go straight to hell. TO HELL.

― river wolf, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

I have a hangover. No. I have The Hangover. The primordial hangover. The fountainhead--the one from which all the rest of the world's hangovers derive.

Work is gonna be something special.

― Jesse, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

It wouldn't have been so bad, but I went to bed without drinking water, then I got some water at 9 AM, had a sip, set it down, and next thing you know the cat's got her face in it, so I just gave up.

When I woke up I was in bad shape. I have tasted bile.

― Jesse, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

oh yecch, you're going to give ME the Hangover

― river wolf, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

haha Jesse, primordial hangover. I know you're drunk when you're lying prostrate in the back of a taxi and trying to convince me to go drink more.

btw, jesse and courtney, don't sweat the cab fare. I have three fancy new stolen pint glasses, and that makes us all even. :)

― kenan, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

Spring is a time for opening all the windows, cleaning, and listening to your favorite records of all time. In my rotation today:

Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
John Lennon - Shaved Fish
Miles Davis - On The Corner
Television - Marquee Moon
The Best of Cymande

― kenan, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

kenan 808080808080808080808080

god i wish i had rumours on my computer right now

― river wolf, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

wait you hate playing bean bag games?

No way! I love playing bean bag games. I just don't like listening to obnoxious college bros playing bean bag games.

Naw, Jesse, I can tell the difference between an A&F boi and a ding dong frat boy and these were definitely the latter.

I know you're drunk when you're lying prostrate in the back of a taxi and trying to convince me to go drink more.

HILARIOUS.

xp - OMG Cymande! I *heart* them. I mean HEART them.

― Jenny, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

I have just been told by a lawyer lady that I have an "impressive" resume and that she is confident that I will land a great job and that makes me feel happy and optimistic about my legal career.

― Jenny, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

highfive Jenny.


Work Experience:

Jam Band Singer

― river wolf, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

HA. I like to leave that one for the interview.

Jesse, post that OMGLOLOLOL photo of me and Jeff and Kenan shaking our heads around.

― Jenny, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

haha that was a moment, no doubt

― kenan, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny I just discovered a photo of me from when I played SAXOPHONE in a BLUEGRASS BAND that did covers of, like, "Africa."

― river wolf, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)


god i wish i had rumours on my computer right now

yeah, there are a coulple treacly Christine tracks that I skip, but "Lay me down in the tall grass and let me do my stuu-uuuuu-uuf" IS SO FUCKING GREAT.

Fuck it, I'm never going back agin.

― kenan, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

jenny, we share too many thoughts. it's weird sometimes. cut that shit out.

― kenan, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

THINK DIFFERENT.

― kenan, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

I don't wanna work.

I'll post that picture Later.

I don't wanna work.

― Jesse, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

Work would be bad enough, but I'm a fucking cocktailer tonight and that's gonna be a lot of running around for less $.

― Jesse, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

:(

― kenan, Saturday, 21 April 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

I was not hired to ever be a cocktailer. But then about a year ago they enacted a policy that every server would have to cocktail, regardless of seniority, etc. So now about once every 2 weeks 1 regular shift is taken away and replaced with a cocktailing shift. Need Union.

― Jesse, Saturday, 21 April 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

what's the rationale for that?

― kenan, Saturday, 21 April 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

i mean, how does that even help the business?

― kenan, Saturday, 21 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

I have an "impressive" resume

i told you that, jenny! you do!

cocktailing when hungover sounds like utter hell.

― JuliaA, Saturday, 21 April 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

So many beanbags, so many frat boys. Stealing my sunshine.

― jocelyn, Saturday, 21 April 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

I did get free breadsticks and pizza from friend though at her pizza place, and friend had been talking to ex-b(?) and explained situation. Basically he has very little relationship experience, I have a lot. He got scared and bailed because he is convinced he was making me unhappy and didn't realize it was other normal life stress. I hope we can work things out, if not I'm going to start training as a supervisor at work and look at transferring to wherever I want in the US.

― jocelyn, Saturday, 21 April 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

I will get Sarah to ask Jenny to ask Sayjal about the brunch place once she (Sarah) wakes up but I have a feeling she (Sarah) really wants to go to Victory's Banner.

It's nice outside. We went downtown to get our marriage license and then sat in Millenium Park and read for a while, then walked up Michigan to the Virgin Megastore and H&M and ate lunch in the fancy foodcourt place in the basement of Water Tower Place and then Sarah shopped some more while I got tired and then we took the bus home. What now? Nobody knows. Is anything going on 2nite?

― n/a, Saturday, 21 April 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

Ha, Nick, I was down there this afternoon with K@tie and her cousin. We went to H&M and other assorted stores. I got some bitchin' new shoes and jeans (though not from H&M because I am too freakishly big for anything they have to offer). Lots and lots of people out down there today, for sure. I don't have any plans for 2nite but had considered going out later on.

― dan m, Saturday, 21 April 2007 22:22 (eighteen years ago)

Victory's Banner is closed until the 23rd or so.

Brett's Cafe Americain, also on Roscoe, is turning into an Orange in a few weeks, yum.

Jesse's saying Those are probably Abercrombie boizreminds me of a skit I came across earlier this week when we were talking about Alanis:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2yEZamZMvoM

― Eazy, Saturday, 21 April 2007 22:27 (eighteen years ago)

Uh oh, VB is closed? Sarah will be in touch with alternate plans for tomorrow.

― n/a, Saturday, 21 April 2007 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

guys I'm such an asshole but I think I am going to have to flake out on brunch tomorrow. work-related panic attack.

I miss you guys, though; one day I will see you again!

― horseshoe, Saturday, 21 April 2007 23:12 (eighteen years ago)

Ok! Alternate brunch plans: WE will meet at Joey's Brickhouse at 1258 W Belmont. Courtney said it was good. BE THERE! SUNDAY! (sorry, horseshoe :-( )

― n/a, Saturday, 21 April 2007 23:39 (eighteen years ago)

I am now the proud owner of an only slightly over-designed 12-cup thermal carafe coffee maker. I just made an inaugural pot and it makes coffee weaker than my old pot did. But we're just getting to know each other. We'll adjust. We'll persevere.

― Jenny, Sunday, 22 April 2007 02:40 (eighteen years ago)

HELLO, CHICAGO!!!

I might visit you uh in a few months. Around Labor Day. At least, if someone is willing to let me crash on their floor or whatnot for a few days. (B. will no longer be living in Chicago then.)

― Casuistry, Sunday, 22 April 2007 02:51 (eighteen years ago)

Go Bulls.

― Jeff, Sunday, 22 April 2007 03:19 (eighteen years ago)

Have fun at brunch, you guys. BTW I don't understand the whole timer on a coffee pot thing. I do in theory, but not in practice. I think I need to rekindle the french press flame.

― jocelyn, Sunday, 22 April 2007 03:38 (eighteen years ago)

The timer is so people can program the coffee pot to come on and start a'brewin' before they get up. I never feel like fucking with it the night before so I think I've only used that feature on the old stupid broken pot maybe once.

I looked for the awesome insulated press pot but they did not have it.

I sure am awake now!

― Jenny, Sunday, 22 April 2007 03:56 (eighteen years ago)

And jocelyn, I am sorry about your breakup. This kind of shit -- He got scared and bailed because he is convinced he was making me unhappy and didn't realize it was other normal life stress -- makes me just so mad! Grow up, duder.

― Jenny, Sunday, 22 April 2007 03:58 (eighteen years ago)

Our windows are open on this warm spring night in Lakeview and we just heard some of the nature sounds to which I was referring earlier, namely slurry drunken jocks yelling:

YOU BOTH SUCK. FUCK YOU.

― Jenny, Sunday, 22 April 2007 04:11 (eighteen years ago)

Or it could have been a slurry drunken gay guy. It's hard to tell from up here.

― Jenny, Sunday, 22 April 2007 04:11 (eighteen years ago)

Or a slurry drunken gay jock. Or a jocky drunken gay slur.

― Jenny, Sunday, 22 April 2007 04:12 (eighteen years ago)

I'm home.

Work was HARD. It was monumentally busy and I was rundown. I made a significant mistake that had two blond So. Cali. women upset with me. Then I made it better and they loved me.

― Jesse, Sunday, 22 April 2007 04:59 (eighteen years ago)

Couple of asshoes, sounds like.

― Jenny, Sunday, 22 April 2007 05:02 (eighteen years ago)

OMG HEY GUESS WHAT!?!?!?

I just finished my paper. I still have to proof it but all the hard work is TOTALLY FINISHED.

This means I have 2 (two) take home finals and 1 (one) regular in class final and I am DONE WITH LAW SKOO. Oh wait, I have to write some bullshit for my externship about what I learned and what kind of meaningful tasks I completed after "at least one hour of thoughtful consideration" but I am unconcerned about the difficulty of that particular project.

― Jenny, Sunday, 22 April 2007 05:44 (eighteen years ago)

"Jenny: I'm afraid this paper only shows forty-seven minutes of thoughtful consideration. We cannot count the five minutes you digressed into thinking about how bees get it on. I'm afraid I can only give you a B-. Please follow all instructions next time!"

― Casuistry, Sunday, 22 April 2007 05:48 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse,

So Cal people suck. They don't know how to walk. If you take your kids to the park to get fresh air, and it's more than 100 meters away, you drive. All joking aside. I don't want to say that everything about San Diego and So Cal was lame, but there's a reason that a friend made us tshirts that read: real boobs rock.

― sisut, Sunday, 22 April 2007 07:56 (eighteen years ago)

Is it time for brunch yet?

― Jesse, Sunday, 22 April 2007 09:19 (eighteen years ago)

I would think that I would feel drunk, considering what has transpired* over the past few hours, but I'm not.

*beer, margarita, jello-shots, shotgunning a beer (setting aside false modesty for a moment, I want to share the fact that I BIT the hole in the side of the can), and more beer

― Jesse, Sunday, 22 April 2007 09:22 (eighteen years ago)

where are you kids going for brunch?

― chicago kevin, Sunday, 22 April 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

i've got a couple of hours before the sandman can take care of me.

― chicago kevin, Sunday, 22 April 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

http://centerstage.net/restaurants/joeys-brickhouse.html

― Jesse, Sunday, 22 April 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

I think I am going to have to ask for a rain check for this brunch breakfast. I worked last night, and work tonight,and was up late so 10:30 is equivalent to like 7:30 AM for me. Plus I'm still full from eating last night and I don't feel like drinking since I will be working tonight.

― Jesse, Sunday, 22 April 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

i went to breakfast about 3 hours ago but i could eat again. i don't think i will go to brunch however because i'm running on fumes at this point and fully expect to pass out at a random moment. and i'd prefer that random moment to be within the confines of my apartment rather than two bus rides and a train ride away.

― chicago kevin, Sunday, 22 April 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

Did I just imagine I was drinking last night? I didn't feel drunk and now I don't feel hung over (though I do feel generally dirty and cranky). Did my liver kick into turbo, or what?

I'm so annoyed--my blinds broke and the neigbors are being noisy, so I am awake. Plus the windows are open and Kenny has decided to imitate only the most primal, unmelodious bird calls he hears.

― Jesse, Sunday, 22 April 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to expose Kenny to rooster crows. On the one hand it would be funny, on the other hand I think I would regret doing it. But it's just the sort of jerky sound that he gets off on.

― Jesse, Sunday, 22 April 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

two hours later, caught a second wind. going out for more eggs and mimosas.

― chicago kevin, Sunday, 22 April 2007 17:31 (eighteen years ago)

OK, I'm ready now.

― Jesse, Sunday, 22 April 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

TOO LATE.

I have confirmed that the people in the courtyard are, indeed, playing cornhole.

― Jenny, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

wost game name ever

― dan m, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

woRst

― dan m, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not talking about the beanbag game, either.

― Jenny, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

It is boystown after all.

― Jesse, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

I feel weird. Like I missed a couple of doses of Paxil. I think it's cuz I feel asleep watching Lost and thinking that I had to make sure I woke up in time to get ready for work, so I stayed kind of awake.

― Jesse, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

There was a guy at Courtney's work friend's party last night who started speaking in tongues. Not like some of us do when we're wasted or angry, but he was making Hebrew-sounding noises, and we couldn't make him stop.

― Jesse, Sunday, 22 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

Did you try slapping him a couple of times?

― Laurel, Sunday, 22 April 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

How did people get so tan so quick?

― Jeff, Sunday, 22 April 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

At that 24 hour tanning place near the Second City theater.

― dan m, Sunday, 22 April 2007 23:43 (eighteen years ago)

I need a tan.

― Jeff, Sunday, 22 April 2007 23:59 (eighteen years ago)

People have been tan under their clothes all winter. Now they are just exposing the tan parts.

― Jenny, Monday, 23 April 2007 01:00 (eighteen years ago)

The Planet Earth Drinking Game

Whenever Ms. Weaver says:
• "The largest/tallest/coldest/most beautiful on Earth," drink once
• "...on planet earth," drink twice
• "The first time this has ever been captured on film," drink twice
• If an animal eats another animal, drink once
• If an animal tries and fails to eat another animal, drink twice
• One drink for cute, two drinks for impossibly adorable

Add your own fun rules!

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 01:02 (eighteen years ago)

I ended up watching Planet Earth after brunch! It was the one with the great white eating the seal in slo-mo, but there was some other crazy shit too. This was followed by "Fat Pets" on Animal Planet, aka fat, unhappy British people who overfeed their dogs.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:16 (eighteen years ago)

I'm tired. Work was silly--same old story: crazy gangsta busser and his two friends, one of whom lives with the general manager get away with murder. Assistant manager has to call GM before she can send the one guy home (he is high, calling me names, going "BAA" like a sheep to one girl in a weird form of sexual harrassment, and he threatened to punch me in the face). The GM hears all this and say, no, don't send him home, but you can write him up. She says something about how you have to remember that a lot of Latinos have substance abuse problems, so we need to be patient with them WTF.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:25 (eighteen years ago)

In brighter news, I got a call from Eye-Double-U-Jay on Friday telling me that they have a position for me. It's temporary, but may become permanent. I don't know if I have to come in and interview or if I'm in or what.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:27 (eighteen years ago)

Last night that gangsta busser disappeared for a long time,leaving his server to fend for herself on a really fucking busy night. When I went to the basement to change I found him, puking in the sink in the prep area. He said it was because of his blood pressure. Then he laid down on a bundle of tablecloths for a while.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 03:30 (eighteen years ago)

Planet Earth was pretty awesome, it would have been better to see it not opposite the Wings playoff game.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 04:48 (eighteen years ago)

How was Joey's? I've wanted to give them some business ever since the Reader article about them a month or so ago.

― Eazy, Monday, 23 April 2007 04:52 (eighteen years ago)

Not very impressive ... turns out the all-you-can-eat deal is Saturday only. Service was pretty bad and my food was mediocre.

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 12:23 (eighteen years ago)

Uncle Fun was awesome though.

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 12:24 (eighteen years ago)

Oh man, Lawrence was awesome this weekend. SO MUCH record shopping. I spent, like, way too much money at Love Garden. The dudes there were super nice and super friendly though, one of the guys is friends with the couple that runs Permanent Rex so we chatted about Chicago things. Some nice local brews in that town too. Way not what I expected Kansas to be like, what with the Earth Day parades and stuff. The wedding was fun too. And then I get back to work this morning to find the Gui Boratto and Justice CDs I ordered waiting on my desk, along with the vinyl version of Arcade Fire.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 23 April 2007 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

Gui Boratto: nice.

Lawrence is not Kansas in the same way Austin is not Texas. It's a great little town.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 12:48 (eighteen years ago)

I'm with Nick, the food was pretty bland but Uncle Fun was uncle fun.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

I'm more tired this morning than I was last night. :(

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

Kind of the same here. I slept and slept, but I think it'll take another day of reasonable sleep schedule to feel back on top of the world again.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

The staff at Joey's seemed kind of dumb. Also, the food wasn't the greatest. That said, I liked how our table was by open windows and the smooth live music (and the people I was eating with).

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

I liked how Sarah gave up half of her giant pancake.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, as a member of the food industry, you will appreciate this I think. I ordered a pancake that was supposed to be topped with 'berries and banana.' It came with exactly one strawberry on it and 4 tiny slices of banana. I said, excuse me, may I get some more fruit please? The lady brings out this little premade fruit cup with a wee bit of horribly unripe honeydo melon and a slice of dried out orange. So, they were out of strawberries, right?

The pancake itself was pretty good.

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan - she was all full on the mounds and mounds of fruit that came with it.

Listen here: Jesse has kindly set up and sent out an evite for my graduation party in May and I have been sending it to more people as I remember them because my initial list was incomplete. There is no definitive invite list and, as far as I can tell, no limit on who can come so if any of you that I have invited have noticed that there is someone else that I didn't invite but should have, tell me or Jesse so we can invite them. Or maybe just invite them yourself if there's an "invite more people" link on the side.

This also applies to ILXors whose email addresses I don't have. I'm looking at you, Jon Via Chicago.

― Jenny, Monday, 23 April 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

Tweet is liberal with their application of toppings.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

Condimentally liberal, socially conservative.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

jon 8 3 0 (at) yahoo, without the spaces.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 23 April 2007 14:19 (eighteen years ago)

Next brunch: Tweet. I am all about this idea.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

And after that, we can go to Early to Bed again.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

I learned a lot about Chicago geography this weekend (incl. a new route to Lawrence's Fisheries that's going to change everything).

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

I love those moments, where you might be in a new area, recognize its relationship to what you're already familiar with, and all of a sudden a large swath of city is filled in.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

Well since that killed the thread I'd like to reiterate that this may be one of the greatest images on the internet:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/469985411_f71bbb7fd1.jpg

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

Thinking about Mr. Boratto again: Saturday, Chromophobia was good for cleaning, and then by the time the album got around to "Beautiful Life," I was ready to nap in a beam of sunshine. Which turned out to be perfect. :) :) :)

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.suck.com/features/archive/images/19980213.gif

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone know who did that Michael Jackson-produced one hit wonder, with MJ on backup vocals?

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

Also: I did feel a bit gypped on brunch. $12 for steak and eggs sounds like a good deal, but the menu did not point out that the steak was actually skirt steak, and not much of it at that. (I really should ask about these things.) I would never have ordered it rare had I known that. There was a huge amount of chewing involved in my breakfast.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan: "Somebody's Watching Me" by Rockwell?

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.80smusiclyrics.com/artists/rockwell.htm

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

That's the one, thx! I heard it on the radio w/Courtney and we couldn't come up with dude's name.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

I don't like to regret food already eaten, but yeah, I couldn't really taste their "homemade salsa" on the "cajun scramble" and had to drench it in hot sauce. That free banana bread was the best part by far.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe I'm beating a dead horse here but if you haven't been to Wishbone you should try it sometime (esp. Jordan).

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

They have shrimp & grits and corn cakes = yes, I think I can do that.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

BORED

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

Why do I have to be at work?

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

capitalism

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

Kind of tempted by free Empty BOttle show tonight: Red-Eyed Legends (who are awesome) and Birds of Avalon (who look interesting). Unfortunately, Gays in teh Military, who I have no interest in seeing, are playing first.

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

So arrive late?

― Laurel, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

you guys may have seen this already, but I just saw that pitchfork announced its other 2 acts for the friday don't look back thing - gza doing liquid swords and slint doing spiderland. pretty solid. most hip hop shows that I've been to over the years have either had too much bass, or too many towel-waving hype men, but maybe this will be different.

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

Birds of Avalon are from Raleigh!

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

I saw Psychadelic Horseshit and Times New Viking last night, liked both v much! Expected to HATE the former but was totally won over (helpful that they are neither psychadelic nor shit). TNV were enjoyable, about what I expected ie didn't blow me away but still am glad I went.

― Laurel, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, maybe the answer is go to bed at 8:30ish and sleep for an hour, then wake up and go to EB. But that is insane in the membrane?

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

I saw Red-Eyed Legends open for Hot Snakes like a month after I moved here, I don't remember much of their set, though. There was a Billy Bragg-esque opener to that show who was kind of awesome but I don't remember his name.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

Not insane, it's a disco nap!

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

I've seen Birds of Avalon several times. They have 2 people who used to be in Cherry Valence, if you ever heard of them.

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

Are they any good?

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

This is all probably moot since I'll most likely complain about being too tired and not go, but I'm leaving my options open.

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

SHRIMP AND GRITS AND CORN CAKES??? Why am I not there right now?

― Jenny, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

I have eaten at Wishbone before, it was pretty good. We ended up there with my dad once when Cafe Tapatio was too busy to accomodate us.

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

they rock it pretty well. twin guitar attack. maybe a little psyche-edge, but not too much. they have toured with oneida though.

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

is anyone going to see konono no. 1? i see they are playing tomorrow. i'd be going if i could.

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

We should have brunch there the weekend of the puke party. Or Tweet's.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

Unfortunately, Gays in teh Military, who I have no interest in seeing, are playing first.



have you seen gitm before? i think everyone should see them at least once. saturday show at the note? crazings. started at 1:30, busy signals went on around 3, left around 4:30 for after party, left after party around 7:30 and walked from bucktown to logan square for breakfast at the cozy corner on milwaukee and california. absolutely rediculous night. i would really like it if late shows at the note became common because i'd much rather go see a show at 2 a.m. than go to the continental or estelles or nick's tool box or whatever your 4 o'clock bar of choice is.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

Is brunch good at wishb0ne though? I know dinner is fine, but dunno about their brunch. I vote for Tweets that weekend.

It is cold in this durn office. Also, there are construction guys working in our sales center and the whole front area smells like strong glue.

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, big nature news: 2007 is the spring/summer when cicadas come back to Chicago.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

See, Kevin, I got to the part about breakfast before I realized you were talking about a show that started at 1:30 AM and not PM.

― Jenny, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

xpost Sometime in may, the swarming should begin, and go on all summer. They are loud and irritating, so I understand.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

If people are going to be in town especially for puke party that weekend, maybe we could do something to celebrate my bday too. That would be kind of crazy though.

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

I think all of your May birthdays cancel each other out.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

cicadas are in chicago every year kenan. but this is the year we'll have thousands and thousands more because it's the year one of the broods of 17 year cicadas will hatch here.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

We had cicadas in Maryland when I was a kid. We would pick them up by the wings and throw them at girls.

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

I love the disco nap! Not insane at all.

― Laurel, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

jenny, my sleep schedule is all fucked up from pulling an all nighter friday then waking up at midnight saturday and going to the show. i'm absolutely out on my feet right now.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

Nick: Maybe we can make it a graduation/birthday party! Then we can have pizza and beer and CAKE. I will do all the partying in the world between May 10 and May 23, FYI. I am ON THE PARTY TRAIN.

― Jenny, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

oh man but i did go to the best record store in chicago on saturday! beverly's rare records on 116th and western. absolutely PACKED with stuff. my friend bill got about 10 7"s, i got two lps, jeremy got about 4 records and a couple of singles. it was overwelming but next time i go back i'll have a plan and a list.

also, i'd never been to beverly before and it was strange. it's like it's not even a part of chicago. the houses, the spacing, the douchebag kids and the strip-mall feel all made it seem like it was some suburb somewhere.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

cicadas are in chicago every year kenan.

Yeah, in small numbers, and apparently a few more than usual were confused in 2003 and came out early. But yeah, this is the year of massive swarms and (allegedly) delicious cicada recipes.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

:(

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

Cicada toppings at Hot D0ug's maybe?

Kevin, I tried (emphasis on tried) to drive my Dad out to explore Beverly with him when he was visiting one time, but only because I heard there were lots of pretty old houses there. Instead, we got horribly, horribly lost.

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:54 (eighteen years ago)

One of my aunts is named Beverly.

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

before i moved here and was coming out to see jen every weekend i used to love walking back from the ridgeland green line stop at like 9:30 on friday nights in august. the cicadas were always so loud and there were a lot more of them out there than there are in the ukrainian village. i'm sure that has to do with there being fewer trees in the city. anyway, cicadas remind me of that, walking back from the green line.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

One of my aunts is named Beverly.

I too have an Aunt Beverly.

― Jenny, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

Sometime in may, the swarming should begin, and go on all summer. They are loud and irritating, so I understand.

was anyone else on this bitch in chicago in 1990 (hi john)? because they were DISGUSTING and swarmy and uggggh. unreal numbers of bugs, falling in your hair as you walk down the street, dead ones piled around trees like massive snowdrifts.

― JuliaA, Monday, 23 April 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

I was in on a cicada swarm in NC but I don't remember it being that bad. That might have been because it just wasn't that bad as far as cicada swarms go.

Cicadas make me think of the Exorcist II.

― Jenny, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

My other memory of Maryland cicadas was coming home from school, being at home for like an hour before I touched my head and realized there was a huge dead cicada in my hair.

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

my high school girlfriend went to college in beverly, ma.
beverly the neighborhood did indeed have a lot of nice houses. we went straight down western, it appears the neighborhood starts somewhere south of 95th st? we ate at a place at western and 100th, it was definitely in the 'hood.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

xpost to Nick: AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

― Jenny, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

unreal numbers of bugs, falling in your hair as you walk down the street, dead ones piled around trees like massive snowdrifts.

I know I'm ill, but I'll be really excited to see this. I seldom anything that can be described as "biblical."

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

i seldom SEE etc

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

beverlycrusher.jpg

Cicadas freaked me out as a kid. Maybe I won't come to Chicago this summer.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

I know I'm ill, but I'll be really excited to see this

me too, i've been looking forward to it for five years when i first heard about the 17 year cicada.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

i was in hs and kids would fill up lunch bags with dead cicadas and throw them across the cafeteria.

i'm hoping it's not as bad this year, because maybe it's not as bad in the city as the suburbs, or because of the 2003 thing.

i did a lot of walking that summer and constantly had bugs in my hair. it was gross.

― JuliaA, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

I have never experienced the cicadas either. In MI the big swarmy bugs were tent caterpillars.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/334643,cicado041007.article

"It's on the same scale as a blizzard or a flood. It's the stuff of folklore," said Tom Hahn...

"They're actually the noisiest insect on earth," Senf said, adding that those planning outdoor weddings or concerts during the emergence period may want to keep that in mind...

"This summer, there will be cicadas everywhere," she said. "In 1990, we had up to one and a half million cicadas per acre."

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.nopuedocreer.com/quelohayaninventado/wp-content/images/2006/09/umbrella-hat.jpg

― JuliaA, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

I'm so grossed out by all of you right now. GROSS GROSS GROSS

XP: hahahaha Julia

― Laurel, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

xposts Not that they were large, just big-time masses of caterillars on every tree in sight.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, the unbrella hat is actually not a bad idea! I will wear such a thing unironically after my first giant-ass-bug-in-the-hair experience.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

as long as you don't wear it with that look on your face.

― JuliaA, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

I can't promise that.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

:)

― JuliaA, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

I like Beverly the few times I've been there, mostly sticking to 95th Street. I'd like to check out that record store.

― Eazy, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

haha

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

eazy, go with a list if you're looking for singles. they aren't filed alphabetically, they're filed by chart position. they have volumes of books that are the size of the yellow pages that have every single you could possibly imagine. then there is a number listed for each record, you go to the corresponding box to see if it's in there. it's kind of like the dewey decimal system except for records.

great store, makes me wish i had a car so i could get there. the 49 bus only goes as far as 79th st. i think there's a pace bus that goes south from there (349?)

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

lol

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

I was actually going to ask for good TAL episodes to listen to in the car, for lack of any other non-musical ideas.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

They recently had one that documented 24 hours at the Golden Apple, an all night diner in Lincoln Square. That was good.

― Jenny, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

That sounds so cool, Kevin.

Oh, and I had a fantastic breakfast at Wishbone on Lincoln a few weeks ago, eggs and crabcakes.

My friend Alec is blogged this weekend about the TAL backlash.

― Eazy, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

"is blogged"? Blanket apology for typos for the month of April. New apology coming May 1.

― Eazy, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

. What’s with all the speech impediments? Every single one of the correspondents has some weird quirky vocal handicap; they might as well call the show This American Lisp. It’s cute and endearing at first, but after awhile it’s just, you know… Dude, you’re a radio presenter. See a speech pathologist already.

haha

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

oh! and they had a two copies of an lp i wanted to get but i forgot to go back and get it because i found a willie alexander & the boom boom band lp. i was so psyched to find it i forgot to go back and the get the easy beats lp. :-(

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

The only time I have ever listened to TAL was on Ben's iPod when we were driving to New York. Maybe I should download the podcasts, but I mainly listen to my ipod when working, and I can't listen to talking then, too distracting.

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

Same here, I only ever listen to podcasty stuff on long drives.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

I'm still a TAL fan. Haterz to the left.

― Jenny, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

I like it, too, but you can't deny the hilarity of the Onion.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

I like it, too, Jenny. But still... haha.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

XPOST

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

OMG SISTERS!

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

I tried to dl a few episodes before leaving on Friday, but my computer crashed (as it does when I try to make it do things). I've got them now, though, prepped for the puke party.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

Jeff has just informed me that we have, indeed, eaten at Wishbone, but not for brunch. I think the dinner was good. I mostly remember this cute little white fluffball adoradog at the table next to us who kept scooching over to our table for affection.

The Onion article is hilarious. I meant my comment more in terms of the "backlash."

― Jenny, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

OMG SISTERS!

Sorority sisters.

PILLOW FIGHT!

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

Hott.

― Jenny, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

Bros Gone Wild

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

Let's not get carried away here

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

i briefly dated a waitress at the wishbone on washington.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

A large plate of their red beans and rice with two over easy eggs would be v. v. nice right now.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

that sounds awesome.

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

Mmmm... maybe I will make some beans and rice for dinner tonight.

― Jenny, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

I am a beans and rice FANATIC!

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

It is freezing cold in my office. My coworker just checked the thermostats and found they were set to 50 degrees!

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

Which is not technically freezing, but whatevs.

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

RealFeel(TM)

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

Hi. I woke up in Omaha this morning. I'm at work now.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

Wishbone is good. I second Joey's Brickhouse not being that great. Somehow it won Restaurant Club best-of-the-year two years ago, and when I went for the anniversary dinner, I was unimpressed.

I only vaguely remember the cicada invasion in 1990. I remember being on a field trip to some nature center where they talked about it. (I was in 6th grade.) I mostly remember the noise more than the bugs themselves.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know how much I trust the validity of that 1.5 million cicadas per acre. Doing some rough calculations, that's going to come to about 300 billion insects. Is that even possible?

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

I asked this question on another thread, but didn't get much response (except from jaymc, who therefore rulz), so I'm gonna try again here. My gf is moving to Chicago (from New Haven) for grad school at some point over the summer, and she is looking for someplace to live that is relatively affordable and safe. I assume this exists in Chicago, but I am not sure. She won't have a car, so public transit is key...I guess her school is somewhere near the loop. What neighborhoods are good? Would it be completely foolish of her to try and get a place without actually visiting chicago first?? You chicago folk are obviously very bright and kind, so I thought this might be a good place to check this out. Thanks.

― askance johnson, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

What is your idea of affordable?

― Jeff, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

What is the school?

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

The school is the Erikson Institute, which apparently nobody has ever heard of. Afford = something like $750 for a 1 bedroom. Is that possible???

― askance johnson, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

That's just a teensy bit more than what I pay for a 1BR.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

Interesting. Our idea of a big city = NYC, so we are having some difficulty figuruing out chicago's prices.

― askance johnson, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

Yep, that opens up a large area of possibilities. I would say that plays into seeing the town before moving here.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

Well, to be more precise, I think $750 is the max she is willing to spend, not the average...though she just got a full scholarship, so I think she might be more willing to go toward the upper end of her price range now.

― askance johnson, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

askance, chicago is insanely cheap compared to the east coast. she should be able to find something in that range in a lot 'hoods. she should check logan square or ukrainian village/east village or noble square. also whatever the neighborhood south of the uk village is called, around superior or huron and anywhere from ashland to grand.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

420 N. Wabash? Anything right near her school would be pricey, but it's near the Red Line, so anywhere on the North Side along the Red Line would be worth looking at. That's Lincoln Park, Lakeview, Wrigleyville, Uptown, Edgewater, Rogers Park, Evanston (though those last two would be a longer commute).

― Eazy, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

xposts

Looked up Erickson Institute, and it's at 420 N Wabash. (Right behind Trump and the IBM building.) So the good news is that that's so public transportation accessible it ain't even funny, which means that she can live off of any train line she wants to and get to school very easily.

And $750 will do that for her in MANY parts of town.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, she's talked about roger's park before...how long of a commute do you think that might be, on average?

― askance johnson, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

interesting. Thanks Kenan (and everybody else).

― askance johnson, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, she's talked about roger's park before... how long of a commute do you think that might be, on average?

Upper end. That's as far north as you can go and still be in Chicago. Amanda can tell you more about that neighborhood, but my thoughts on it are that you do not want to take a place there sight unseen. There are parts of it that are fantastic, tree-lined, well-lit, and cozy, and parts of it where I would not feel safe walking alone at night. (Here is where Amanda calls me a pussy.)

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, that's good to know...she is a bit a concerned about being female and alone in "the big city." Though New Haven could very well have a higher crime rate than Chicago, so who knows.

― askance johnson, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

Start in the Chicago Reader Spacefinder:

http://classifieds.chicagoreader.com/chicago/Results?subsection=oid%3A122

We would be happy to encourage/ward you off certain parts of town.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

I was going to say the same as Kevin but didn't want Amanda to kick my ass. Plenty of nice places up there, but wouldn't pick one sight unseen.

― Eazy, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

From my experience looking at places in Roger's Park, kenan is dead on. That neighborhood can vary so much from block to block.

Also, use craigslist (if you haven't already) once you've narrowed down to a neighborhood. Next best thing to just walking the area and looking for signs in windows. Those big-name apartment search websites are absolutely worthless, unless you want to pay much, much more than you need to.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

jvc2.0 OTM. I just looked at the listings for $700 and under places in my 'hood (Logan Square) and there were dozens. In parts it can be kind of rough, though as a large man I have not ever felt threatened anywhere.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

(listings on Craigslist, I should have said)

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

thank you all I will look around and then talk to her tonight. I may be back! Now I am off to class.

― askance johnson, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

The first listing on the Reader site is 2 blocks from my old apartment, and a steal of a price for that neighborhood.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

Neighborhoods along the Red Line = basically what I told Askance the last time he posted about this.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

I live in Logan Square and don't feel unsafe in any area, though I generally try to avoid walking alone at night regardless of neighborhood. I'd also recommend parts of Humboldt Park, but it's not really train-line accessible.

― sisut, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I know you guys like to stump for your 'hoods and all, but you have to consider the public-transportation angle.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

OMG. I just ate entirely too much whoopie.

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

Yep. And if you divide your search between red, blue, and brown lines, she can easily find a place for that money within a couple-few blocks of a train station.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

Original posts:

Hello. I have another, slightly similar, question about moving to chicago. My girlfriend is planning on going to grad school for early childhood education this fall, and, so far, she seems to be leaning towards going to the Erikson Institute in Chicago. Neither of us has ever been to Chicago, so it is a bit hard to make this decision (I would not be moving to chicago w/ her, at least not for another year).
So is anyone familiar with the Erikson Institute, especially its early childhood masters program? I guess it's a really small school, so this may be a long shot. But if anyone has any knowledge of it all, I'd be interested in hearing anything about it -- pluses, minuses, types of students, etc.
My second question is, inevitably, about where to live. Erikson is, according to its website, in the "river north district". I gather this is "downtown" i.e. centrally located. I guess it's near a lot of train lines...does this mean she can live anywhere? Does chicago have any affordable yet still nice neighborhoods (this is its reputation, but we are from the east coast so this seems sort of unimaginable)? Thanks.

-- askance johnson, Monday, March 19, 2007 10:58 AM (1 month ago)
I've lived in Chicago for over six years and grew up in the suburbs, and I've never even heard of the Erikson Institute! (Which you shouldn't take one way or the other, but I'd wager that other folks are not likely to have heard of it, either ... although maybe I'll be surprised.)

River North is more or less downtown, you're right. Looking at Erikson's website, it appears that it's only actually super-close to the Red Line stop at Grand. But since it's only a few blocks away from the Loop, where most of the city's train lines converge, she'll be well-served by public transportation, even if she has to transfer trains, or take a bus somewhere along the way.

That said, it would be marginally more convenient for her to move to a neighborhood somewhere along the Red Line. Lucky for her, this is the longest train line in the city, and covers a diverse stretch of neighborhoods, from wealthy to bohemian. As one might expect, the more inexpensive places are likely to be the furthest away from downtown (like in Rogers Park or Uptown), but these are still relatively nice neighborhoods.

-- jaymc, Monday, March 19, 2007 11:15 AM (1 month ago)

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

Logan square is highly accessible via train! And, I think most people seem to be defining public transportation as the el, alone. HP is quite handy if you're willing to take the bus.

ooh! also handy (train and bus) and cheap...Pilsen.

― sisut, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

public transportation includes the bus you know. the #56 milwaukee bus will get you to michigan avenue faster than the blue line except at rush hour.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

katieburger OTM.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

it makes me laugh every time.

― sisut, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

And also the Blue Line is not under construction for the forseeable future, unlike the Brown/Red.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

Eatin' Whoopie

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

Or she could live in Uke Village and take a bus.

Ha ha. Great minds think alike (xposts)

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

Katie I want to steal yr apartment

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2004/11/09/inside-peewee.jpg

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

woah wrong thread

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

OK, never mind, you guys are right. I guess I don't really ever consider buses because I live too far north for them to ever be a viable option for commuting to downtown.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah--I promise you will be the very first person I call when we move out of there. Seriously, it will be soon, or my cousin will kill me.

― sisut, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

I read too quickly. nick, YOU will be the first person i call.

― sisut, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

I guess we should find out what would happen if we break our lease. What usually happens if you break your lease?

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

I can't get into it, but it involves a vice.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

It probably spells it out in the lease. I know that for ours you can opt out by paying one month extra rent.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

depends on the landlord (xp--yeah, and the lease). sometimes it's no problem, sometimes it involves a lot of money.

― JuliaA, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

I looked through my phone this morning and discovered a picture of Jesse shotgunning a Bud Light from Sat. night.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

He took his fake tooth out and used it to pierce the can.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

I still want Jesse to post those weird pics of us doing unusual things with our heads.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

you may have an easier time w/it if you can help the landlord find someone to take over your lease...

― sisut, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

WFMU is playing Centerfold by J. Geils Band at half-speed right now. It's endlessly amusing.

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

I just remembered the text that Kelsey and I sent Jordan at like 3 AM on Friday night.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

aanggelll innn a ceeentttterrrffoooolllld

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

:) :)

xpost

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

(sorry for that interruption)

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

aw I missed it. Supernaut is ok, though.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

I've never heard of this band Supernaut, just the Sabbath song.

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

hooray RTX!

I missed J Geils, but I think you for reminding me that this station exists.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

I THANK YOU

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

lately I've been doing all these transcriptions of audio interviws and couldn't listen to anything at work, but they just gave me a new task of making superscripts on a document, so now I can listen to stuff. I was actually going to try WHPK at first, but I couldn't find a listen online link. Do they not have that feature?!

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

no fun fest having merzbow and keiji haino!

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

Hi dere chilx. Would anyone like to meet me for drinks on SUNDAY (4/29) sometime after 7 p.m.? Alas, it is my only free evening, as I have meetings Monday p.m. and head back home to DC on Tuesday.

I will be in the vicinity of 505 N. Michigan Ave for work but am happy to hop some sort of transportation to wherever.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

Also chicago kevin rumor has it spousage has ur e-mail addy--I will have him send you my cell # for contactual purposes.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

uh sure

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

that is a good, if somewhat unenthusiastic, answer.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

I stand by my previous assertion that I will have drinks with all these DCilxors. Or all this, as the case may be.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

i'm always up for drinks. yr spouse does have my email addy. i'll likewise send along a phone number but, realistically, my phone will probably be turned off before then as i haven't paid the bill this month and don't plan on doing so until my next paycheck (5/4).

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

No way they turn it off after only a month.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

uh, ya way dude. it's happened before.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

Due to system upgrades that will deliver improvements to I-PASS, ordering transponders online will be unavailable over the next few weeks.

:(

I borrowed a friend's i-Pass for the weekend and it was pretty much the best thing ever, I got back to Madison in ~2 hours.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

No way they turn it off after only a month.

you bet yr butt they do, then charge you another $40 to hook it back up.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

Are you talking cell phone or landline?

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

celly

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe I've just gotten lucky then, or maybe it's one of the few bills I haven't slacked on at one point or another.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

cell but i never have had to pay a re-activation fee.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

Cingular was very insistent on this point.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

I'm totally down with QuincieDrinx, provided I don't get too drunk at cousin's wedding the night before.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

Man, not showering, even for a single day, really makes me feel gross.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

Funny, your mom said the same thing.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

zing fails to revive thread

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

I smirked

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

wtf, why can't i post?

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

huh, ok let's try that again... ok, it appears i can't use the quote tag or the italics tag without getting an error.

what's wrong with this? from cnn:

"Then grab a cab to visit the architecturally impressive Tribune Towers (435 N. Michigan Ave.). When you're done, take the stairs down to the Billy Goat Tavern for a $3 "cheezborger"--the inspiration for the famous Saturday Night Live skit.

Back above ground, head north on Michigan Avenue--a.k.a. the Magnificent Mile--for world-class window-shopping. Finish at the John Hancock Observatory (between Chestnut and Delaware). The skyscraper was invented in Chicago, and you'll see some of the finest examples glittering below. "

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

oh, wait, you know what's wrong with that? i'm a fucking moron that's what's wrong with that. i forgot which was north for a second.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

i am confused

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

I was going to say, isn't the Billy Goat over towards the United Center?

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

I'm listening to some tracks from Joakim's LP Monsters and Silly Songs. He's playing this coming Sunday when I'll be in town. Sounds pretty cool to me so far. As I had mentioned previously, he runs that Paris label Tigersushi (they put out that Optimo Hang the DJ album, for one thing). Anyway you can check out the clips at www.monstersandsillysongs.com.

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

dan, the original billy goat is on the lower level of michigan ave directly across from the tribune tower. i spent a lot of time waiting there when jen worked at the tribune. but i swear i forgot that 875 n michigan would be north of 435 n michigan.


i need sleep.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

i meant to add that the billy goat on the west side (i think it's at ashland and ogden?) opened later.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

I was going to say, isn't the Billy Goat over towards the United Center?

There might be one over there. There's one in Merchandise Mart, there used to be one in Wrigleyville. The original one is still on N. Michigan, though.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

Also one on Navy Pier.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

I've played at the o.g. Billy Goat.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

According to the Billy Goat's website the original tavern was across from the Chicago Stadium, and the place moved to its present underground location in 1964.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sure their food is fine and all (I've only ever grilled cheese there), but I sort of hate the touristification of the Billy Goat. Not that I was around to enjoy it pre-Belushi or anything, but it was probably a quirky, divey burger joint that's now not much more than a commercialized representation of the city's local color along with Da Bears and da blues.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

john, wouldn't you say the "touristification" probably started before you were even aware of the place?

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

you know what, it doesn't matter.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sure their food is fine and all

not... really.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

Totally, Kev. That's why I said "it's not like I was around to enjoy it pre-Belushi." I guess part of what annoys me is that it's always mentioned in dumb "guide to Chicago" articles, when it's not anywhere I would even consider directing visitors, unless they're like huge SNL fans or something.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

Ditto Navy Pier, which is just depressing. At least Fishermen's Wharf has seals.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

Exactly... it's a tiny little hole in the wall with shitty burgers. I mean, especially that location.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

Navy Pier is for children. Much like hell.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

the album i was listening to on my itunes just finished and when the music stopped i realized i had been listening to it a really inappropriate volume. luckily, i don't give a shit.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

Guys everyone on the DC thread died. Can I hang out here?

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

speaking of touristy eateries, has anyone gone to that hot dog place that was featured on the comedy central show insomniac several years ago? it was this place where the staff yell obscenities at you, and you're supposed to do it back to them. i think.

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

Note: I have nothing of particular value to contribute. Also: wtf is "merch mart" anyway? Some lady at the sold-out hotel tried to get me to stay at some "sister hotel" down the way and when I was like "lady where is this place" she's all "above the merch mart" like I have any fucking clue what/where that is.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

holy crap i can't wait to get home and collapse in my bed. between last week's insomnia and this weekend's, uh, festivities, i can't wait to establish a semi-normal sleep schedule again.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

Merchandise Mart is a big ol' convention/expo center just north of the Loop.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

WEINER CIRCLE

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, stingy, we were just there the other night. Assuming you're talking about Weiner's Circle.

Q: "Merch Mart" = Merchandise Mart. I work like a block away from it.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

merchandise mart:
http://www.igougo.com/photos/journal_photos/7e484439ef274937a0987cea2deb41ab_prefRes.jpg

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

big xpost

To Billy Goat's credit, that location seems pretty authentic to me. I mean, it's still too tiny to do much group hanging out in, and it's very hidden unless you already know where it is. It's usually quiet and kinda empty. But I did go there a lot at lunch or after work when I worked right across the street... it's a place for a cheap bite and a beer. Which is exactly what the Tribune and Sun Times reporters used it for back in the day (and prolly still do).

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

Oh OK. I have been ordered to eat a "Superdawg." Should I obey?

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

"Where's my fuckin tip?!"

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

are they really that intimidating in person as they looked on the tv show?

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

i suppose that would depend on how easily intimidated you are.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't exactly enjoy the yelling, but it bothered me way less than paying $8 for two shitty hot dogs.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

fuck a place like that

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

will they refuse to serve you a la the soup nazi?

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

The Lady Ms. Q: I've heard nothing but good things about Superdawg, but it's pretty far off the beaten path, like about 10 miles northwest of downtown and not close to any trains.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

Merchandise Mart is a big ol' convention/expo center just north of the Loop.

I don't know if you'd call it a convention center... I mean, I'm sure there are some big conference rooms, but really it's just a giant fuck-off office building. Four million square feet of office space. (The Sears Tower has 4 1/2 million.)

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, they acted like they weren't going to give me my food until I tipped.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

The yelling didn't bother me, since I know it's their shtick. The racial dynamic (all-black employees serving drunk white Lincoln Park fratboys/Trixies) made the yelling more interesting, though.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

My ex-gf was quick to point out Superdawg the one time we were up in that region. I'd never heard about it before and have had no reason to go back there since. I don't see how it could possibly top Hot Doug's.

xpost: Conference/convention... is that really so different?

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

So do I have a right to be totally fucking irritated by the fact that TWICE in the past couple of days strangers from out-of-town, when I have inquired as to their hometown, have said "I'm from the city."

I mean presumably they mean NYC, yes? Guess what, "I'm from THE CITY" ppl: you are douchebags.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

I mean really, "the city"? Like you're not fucking talking to me in, you known "the capital"?

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

CAPITAL CITY

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

I'm a city guy

― Mr. Que, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

Merch Mart has lots of retail space, too. And at least a couple radio stations (like Q101) broadcast from there.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

i think if someone says something as douchey as that you are like required by law to say "wow, you're a long way from culver city" or whatever.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

By "I'm a city guy," MW is referring to his cousin, who grew up outside Juno and went to school in Fredricksburg, VA; he was later caught saying to someone, when asked where he would move after graduation, that he grew up "a city guy."

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

I mean come on, JUNO?

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

Juneau, AK?

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha KLG powned by spelling!

― Mr. Que, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

yes, Juneau AK

― Mr. Que, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

Huh I know that didn't look right. HELLO DERE I IS EDITOR BY PROFFESION

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

wait no. not Juneau. Kodiak Island which is even more isolated.

― Mr. Que, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

what is a Trixie?

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah totally major city.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

huh. speaking of fredricksburg i hear the points have a record coming out on in the red or swami or some shit? i'm eager to hear this.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

The yelling didn't bother me, since I know it's their shtick.

Yeah, see, I think I would have the urge to throw my hot dog back in the face of that staff. "I'm sorry, I did not order a side of loud, mean bitch. Can you not charge me extra for that?" That was a place in Austin that pulled that shit, too... their "thing" was that the staff was allowed to act as aggressively toward the clientele as they goddamn well pleased. Every time my friends wanted to go there, I would try to talk them out of it. "I know it's supposed to be all punk rock and don't-give-a-fuck, but don't you understand that the downside to that is that they don't give a fuck?"

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

Also: when I asked said cousin where he liked to go when visiting DC, he responded "all my friends are gay or lesbian. So I, like, go to clubs."

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

a trixie is a socially ambitious woman who lives in/around lincoln park. she will eventually morph into a yuppie. the male counterpart is called a chad.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

xxpost Also -- place was dirty. Which is also going to happen when you don't give a fuck.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

Richmond has what MW and I refer to as "Craigs"

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

To an Alaskan, Juneau is very much a city.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

Well so is Fredricksburg, VA for that matter!

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

OK so yeah maybe guy is OK.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

yeah yeah sorry about all of that. he never lived in Juneau.

― Mr. Que, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

ARE YOU APOLOGIZING FOR ME? STOP THAT RIGHT NOW.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

Also, from wiki:
"A Trixie is a generally derogatory slang term referring to a young urban white woman, typically single and in her late 20's or early 30's. The term originated during the 1990's in Chicago, Illinois. The term was further popularlized by a satirical Website dedicated to the Lincoln Park Trixie Society, a fictional social club based in Chicago's Lincoln Park neighborhood.

Trixies are typically depicted as "social climbing, marriage-minded, money-hungry young ladies that seem to flock to the upwardly-mobile neighborhood of Lincoln Park."[1] Another description calls them "the women with Kate Spade bags for every day of the week; the ex-sorority girls still lusting after big, dumb jocks; the women who go to law school to find husbands."[2]

As such, "Trixies" are not unique to Chicago but representative of a stereotyped subculture in contemporary America. According to National Geographic, this stereotype describes a "blond, late-twenties woman with a ponytail who works in PR or marketing, drives a black Jetta, gets manicures and no-foam skim lattes."[3] The equally stereotyped male counterparts of Trixies are generically given the name "Chad.""

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

Kodiak is where that girl had her mom murdered, right? I seem to remember that being a big story for a minute.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

"According to National Geographic"??

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

I know, rite?

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

"according to National Geographic" :)

xpost lol

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

Wiener's Circle is stupid .

Speaking of Richmond, though I don't know if you were talking abotu Richmond, VA., that new issue of Bust with Charlotte Gainsbourg on teh cover has an article on how AWESOME Richmond is, and all the places it highlights are the same places we used to go 5 years ago. Which proves we were right to move, since it is never going to change.

― n/a, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

xpost Come on dudes, this world has many unique species that should be documented. Even the nasty, annoying ones.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

Apparently so...

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

yeah n/a we saw that, it seems to spend a lot of time talking about Carytown though?

― Mr. Que, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

I liked Richmond quite a lot but could do without the Craigs. Chapel Hill also had a lot of Craigs. I think I actually prefer DC hill staffers to Craigs, unless the staffer in question actually is a Craig, which would be DO NOT WANT

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

Explain this Craig.

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

Ummmm shortish (as Southern dudes tend to be, imho), duck head pants and those bucky shoes (don't remember their proper name), kinda good-ole-boy in training, date the Southern equivalent of Trixies.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

Catching up

Regarding the blue line not being under construction like the Red and Brown-- the construction on the Red and Brown has actually somehow paradoxically made the trains run on time, cutting a significant amount of time from everyone's commute! The only problem is that on the weekends the northbound Red line subway is rerouted to the Brown line tracks, making the ride home from work longer, but more scenic.

Regarding posting those pics-- soon.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

More on Craigs: Works for Chase bank or whatever, aspires to move to Charlotte. Went to UNC-CH or UVA or really, really wanted to go to one of those but ended up at Wake or URich or something. Golfs.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not sure I have a good bead on Craig musical tastes, but I bet MW does.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

HOOTIE

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, hootie nails it.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

they don't work for chase they work for Cap One. they listen to DMB, Rusted Root, etc.

You are Craiging up the Chicago thread!

― Mr. Que, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

Why is it OK to refer to annoying white urban females as "Trixie" but it is considered verboten to call an annoying African-American female "Shaniqua"? Discuss. Fight.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

I live in Chapel Hill and I definitely know what you are talking about.

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

i'll go out on a limb and say a craig prolly digs DMB or some shit.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

"aspires to move to Charlotte" so OTM

― Mr. Que, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

beartrap to Jesse: roffles

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

oh, i guess i should READ the xposts first...

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

Ok, gotcha.

Somewhat related: One of my sister's went to UVA. I remember one time in particular walking around campus to meet her. There were students swarming all around me, in between classes or something, and I suddenly realized I was the only person in view wearing jeans. Every single guy was wearing khakis and the ladies all had black skinny pants. It was weird.

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

Discuss. Fight.

or... don't.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

Emphasis on skinny.

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

stingy where are you in chapel hill? I lived there in the mid 90s. Actually Carborro, before Carborro had anything other then Weaver Street types.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

Wears Reef sandals with khakis, has a tattered baseball cap (possibly pre-stressed at the factory), and has Croakies for his Oakleys.

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

I was at UNC during an unfortunate period in which the "frat-boy tuck" prevailed. It may still, but I really hope not.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

holy crap this record from the pack is insane. i can't stop listening to it.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

I live in Carrboro, actually. Right by Weaver Street in fact!

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

I'm glad I'm not from the south

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

whoa is that the German Pack kevin?

― Mr. Que, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, see, I think I would have the urge to throw my hot dog back in the face of that staff.

Haha, this reminds me: so last night, I'm parking in front of the club in Omaha. The lot is full, so I pull up on the street right in front of an SUV. Matt gets out to ask the cops loitering about whether the spot is legal (it's pretty close to a stop sign), and this woman comes charging at me and yells, "Hey! That's my car! You better move it, buddy!" I infer from this that I'm too close to her bumper. I raise my palms as a conciliatory gesture, as if to say, "Hey, cool, I'll move, just give me a second here." She screams, "MOVE!!!" I lower the window and yell out, "Dude, calm down" and then proceed to inch forward. (The cops said it was legal.) Only when she finally turns around do I see the big SECURITY logo on the back of her sweatshirt: she's working the Saves the Day show in the auditorium above the club.

Whatever. I lug some gear inside, but when I return I hear her muttering about "blah blah telling ME to calm down," so I go up to her and try to defend myself, saying that I didn't realize I was so close to her car, but had she asked nicely, I wouldn't have yelled at her. She said, "How dare you to speak to someone with my authority in that way?" It's true that I might not have been so forward had I realized she was security, but I also don't regret saying what I did. She continued, "You are a rude individual. You are extremely rude." Which I had to smile at, because, ha, I'm not the one who's foaming at the mouth here. She said, "I'm glad you find yourself so amusing." I said, "No, actually, I find YOU amusing." There was also a bit in there where she claimed that I hit her car once again with the merch basket in my hand, but since, in her apoplexy, all she said was, "And you nailed it again with that little picnic basket of yours!" I had no idea what she was even talking about and told her so.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

frat-boy tuck

is this an olympic dive or a verbotten sexual maneuver?

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

so I take it you are familiar with Pantana Bob's and Cafe La Rez?

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

mr. que, YES!!!

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

oh my god kevin, that record is a MONSTER

― Mr. Que, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

I left Greensboro, NC in 2004, and the frat boy tuck was in full force. Gay boys liked to do it a lot.

When I think of Chapel Hill I don't think of Craigs--I think of indie-er-than-thou, Cat's Cradle-frequenting kids who drive VWs, Civics, and who are vegetarian.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

I am very familiar with both those establishments, stingy. Although I was generally found at 506 or Hell, occasionally the cave. Pantana Bob's was a popular spot with one lab I did a rotation with--we'd go Friday after work to sit on the porch.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

Frat boy tuck is the shirt (usually polo) tucked in only in the front. It supposedly shows off your cockage. At least that's why the gay boyz do it.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

Oh and I lived on Oak street, down past the hairy titter a few blocks. Rode bike to campus on the bike path. Was hit by a car at the intersection there by Weaver Street.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, my friends band started covering "nobody can tell us" so i asked about it and found the record and my mind has been blown. again, i wish i had a car so i could listen to this while driving. of course i'd wind up going like 120 mph before i realized it and would then crash and die but damn, this shit is good.

beertrap.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, Hell is having their 10th anniversary month right now! good times. I live on North Greensboro Street and also ride a bike.

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

An important corollary to the frat-boy tuck is the woven belt dick extender. Like the belt would be big and instead of sticking the excess in a belt loop it just kinda flopped forward like a second penis.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

hahaha. the record cover alone of that PACK record is amazing. like they're just hanging out in some snack bar/break room? with their instruments? awesome.

― Mr. Que, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

Frat boy tuck is the shirt (usually polo) tucked in only in the front. It supposedly shows off your cockage.

oh, see, i just do a derek smalls and keep a zuchini wrapped in aluminum foil down there.

"we've got armadillos in our trousers. it's frightening, really."

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

The Chapel Hill Craig vs. Richmond Craig thing is interesting--same species, but with different varietal character.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

An important corollary to the frat-boy tuck is the woven belt dick extender. Like the belt would be big and instead of sticking the excess in a belt loop it just kinda flopped forward like a second penis.



TWO FLACCID PENISES, NO WAITING.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

5:00, I go home. If anyone wants to listen to my radio show on wxdu.org, it's tonight from 6-8 eastern time. bye bye everybody

― stingy, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

i guess the singer dude from the pack is in jail for murder? was this '78 or '79 that it came out?

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

Btw, why do slutty college girls dress so horribly? I don't think this is restricted to the Univ. of Iowa sidewalks the other night that inspired this comment, but it's like: jeans, heels, and some big swoopy blouse? I don't get it. If the point is to dress up, why are you wearing jeans?

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

What would you prefer they wear?

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

I mean more or less slutty???

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

sluttier things

haha xpost

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty more or less slutty

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

moral? less slutty.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

i don't know kevin, i haven't been able to find out much about that band, but yeah i think i heard that somewhere

― Mr. Que, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Moralless, slutty.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

i must be a prude because i can't believe college kids wear sweatpants/pajamas to class.

― Mr. Que, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

If the point is to dress up, why are you wearing jeans?

I don't think they're exactly going for dressing UP, so much as dressing provocatively. Plus, jeans are (usually) designer items that reflect a lot of status.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

Well, not they're doing anything for me, but I just think they'd be cuter if they didn't try so hard. Keep the jeans, lose the million layers of makeup.

We totally convinced the ridiculously cute barista in downtown Omaha to come to our show last night. We put her on the list. Her name was Char1ty Wagg0ner. I thought she was like 21, but apparently she came with her husband of four years (not that those two things are exclusive, necessarily).

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

xp Girls in pajamas are hot.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

must be a prude because i can't believe college kids wear sweatpants/pajamas to class.


horseshoe and i are of the same mind on this, i think we both want to slap people who wear pajamas to the airport. i'm willing to extend that to "anywhere in public" but i will make exceptions if you are too sick to get dressed and need to run out for something and won't be gone long.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

Girls in pajamas are hot.


yes, IN BED. at the airport? not so much.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

Tiny children (around 4 or 5 years old) on cell phones seems weird to me.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

Why is it the most comfortable of pants are the most maligned? Speaking mainly of the sweat- and pajama- varieties here.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

yeah it's just a weird thing for me. like i can understand, it's not that big of a deal, but I mean, you're in public, you can't find a pair of jeans?

― Mr. Que, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

I fucking hate people in pajamas in class. Even sweats is kind of annoying. This is particularly annoying because the kids who wore them at my college were the M@ry F@ust Residential College fuckers who were coddled and encouraged to just get comfortable and casual in class. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of them kick their heels up on the table and brush their hair. Fuckers.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

ok, good it's not just me.

― Mr. Que, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

I was going to defend the jeans-wearing, but now I see that wasn't John's point.

Personally, I am guilty - this very day in fact - of wearing heels with jeans. I don't know what a swoopy blouse looks like exactly though.

In my office anyway, we're encouraged to wear jeans which look nice, as opposed to skirts or suits or what-have-you. I tend to wear dressier shoes than my officemates just because I like cute shoes.

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

Jeans are kind of dressing up in certain situations. There are dressy jeans.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

Depends on how they are incorporated into an outfit, in my very humble opinion.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

I can't put on heels with jeans without my mother's voice popping into my head telling me I can't do that, I look like a tart.

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

I guess to clarify my answer: personally, I would prefer less slutty, but understanding what they're going for (dressing "provocatively," as Jesse puts it), I would say more slutty, since I think it would enhance, or at least provide some uniformity to, the overall look.

I don't know what I mean by a "swoopy blouse" either. Just a top that's sort of loose and amorphous. I don't really know what the difference is between a blouse and a shirt and a "top."

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

For a guy, I think that nicely fitting, wrinkle-free jeans with a blazer, nice shoes, and a good shirt is hot. For women, with heels and a blouse. I'm picturing a certain silky wrap blouse that I've seen Courtney wear.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

Also it's totally subjective. I have a pair of dry clean only, non-denim trousers that happen to have jean-style pockets on the ass. These were a definite no-no during my business casual temping days. However, I had a pair of brown denim twill "chinos" or some shit (that I happen to be wearing today) that were perfectly fine. The moral? Temping sucks.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

I would never have worn pajamas or sweats to class (I don't even have any, really), but on girls it was, yes, kind of hot.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

These are the shoes I have on today. It's not like they are bright red with a huge spiky heel.
http://sc7img.dillards.com/is/image//DillardsZoom/swx990_zi?layer=comp&op_usm=2.0,0.5&&rgn=0,0,1760,2040&scl=6.666666666666667&fmt=jpeg&id=1QyOt3TXJK10ti8fyqpQ03

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

I like jeans with a blazer.

Anyway, I don't want to be dogmatic about this. The point is, I just wanted to be able to ogle some hot college girls, but most of them just made me cringe.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

I want to be able to do jeans & a blazer too, but my real suit blazer is too big and doesn't look good with jeans. I need a cheap, cool blazer.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

Also, I have learned that I shouldn't talk about fashion when Jesse is in the room, so I'm done here.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

I'm scared--There is a good chance that I'll get this job at |WJ. I've had very little experience in an office setting, except being in NO this summer, and even that was as much field work as office stuff. My other office experience was mixed with other things (floral design, retail management). What if I hate it, etc.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

Blazer + jeans, without fail, always makes me think of Hank Scorpio or any number of early 90s sitcom "hip and cool" dad characters. DUD

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

John, your description of the college girls sounds like what most women are wearing nowadays, either that or I just dress like a college girl.

My fingers are crossed for you, Jesse!

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

Also, I have learned that I shouldn't talk about fashion when Jesse is in the room, so I'm done here.

Ha ha. I'm sorry. I really have no business being dogmatic about fashion, considering how I put fashion into practice.

I LUV the deconstructed blazers/suits that are in style these days.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

My friend Erik can pull off jeans, blazer, + pink shirt like a motherfucker.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

Honestly I much prefer my isolated office environment to any job in which I'd have to interact with the general public. I mean obviously this makes me a huge snob and all, but when ppl are all "oh my god I could never do the sit-in-front-of-a-computer job thing." Good: more jobs for me!

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

um ok that was beartraps to jesse, and poorly written at that. Time to go home!

― quincie, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

I want a deconstructed jacket to wear with jeans. But not so much deconstructed that it will not have lasting classic appeal or whatever. I don't know if that's possible.

― Jesse, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

there were a lot of blazer/$300 jeans combinations at darkroom for the fake fictions show last week. also, apparently there was a brawl there friday night? 30 people got arrested, bottles being thrown around the room, women hiding under tables? wtf??

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

AAAHHHHHH sweats in public NO NO NO. And no velour leisure/track suits, either. I mean, to the deli across the street, fine. People didn't do that at my college, though, and they don't do it much in Manhattan unless yr, like, at the park or a pedestrian greenway -- basically a work-out & leisure area.

Sarah, I wish they WERE red with a big heel! :D I lurve jeans with heels, altho yeah the proportions have to be right. Or rather, "not wrong", because there're plenty of options that are fine but a few that are either too "cheap" or too rave-y or blah blah.

― Laurel, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

With the exception of one summer in college, I've pretty much only worked in offices since I was 16.

John, your description of the college girls sounds like what most women are wearing nowadays

I guess I didn't explain it well, because it doesn't sound like anyone I know. Like even a tightly fitted shirt would've looked much better on them!

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

Deconstructed = cut-off sleeves, metal style?

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

I can only hope

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

beartrap to self: I mean, it didn't LOOK like anyone I know.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

Let me know when you find that jacket, Jesse.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

Laurel, perhaps that's true, but also this is something I'm wearing to work. ;-)

― KitCat, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

i'm the only one on this floor of the building right now. tunes = cranked!

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

Haha I work in the same building as InStyle magazine (until we move on Thursday), women here wear ALL KINDS of crazy stuff. I mean, it's not like the offices of Vogue or anything, but it leans in that direction.

― Laurel, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin, me too! PSmith sent a US DIY comp today, good times.

― Laurel, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

From walking down Michigan on Saturday and watching Entourage last night I discovered that gaudy sunglasses on men are a big deal in 2007. And then I read an article in the weekend Wall Street Journal about how sunglasses are now the lowest-end of the high-designers Gucci/Prada/etc. line, and so folks who don't want to spend $1000 on a purse are spending $300 on them.

On Michigan I saw the many guys with sunglasses, the kind with rims so thick that a logo can fit on them.

Jesse's right: if fancy jeans mean status, then jeans mean dressing up.

I think John means those camisole-lacy-shiny tops that college gals and Division Street clubgoers wear, unless he means those very loose blouses.

― Eazy, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

i've got the cococoma record playing. i finally know which song is about me.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

"Crawling Out Of Tuman's"?

― Eazy, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

For the record, I was imagining John meant those blousy or flowy peasant tops, possibly empire-waisted, possibly with puffed sleeve caps and deep V-necks or off-the-shoulder.

― Laurel, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

AAAHHHHHH sweats in public NO NO NO. And no velour leisure/track suits, either.

I adhere pretty much to this rule, unless I'm on the way to the gym and nowhere else, or on a bike ride with no destination, or etc.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

if i had a velour track suit i'm pretty sure i'd wear it about 6 days a week.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

I wear pajama trousers to Jewel. and slippers.

― Jeff, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

Sure, I find guys much less guilty of the "PJs in public" than girls. Men, if I see them in nylon shorts or sweats, I assume are somewhere between home and gym, or basketball court, or soccer game. Women, though, took on the matchy-matchy tracksuit as a matter of ass-clinging pride. In Crown Heights, at least. I think it's dying out a bit, I'm thankful to say.

Hahha xp to Jeff

― Laurel, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

I kind of love matchy tracksuits.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

Do sweats with text on the ass count as sweats? I mean, those are made to be worn outside, right?

― Eazy, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

those are made to draw attention to the wearer's ass.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

I like peasant blouses!

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

oh god, text on the ass.

i have a skirt that's ankle-length and made of cotton sweatpants material.

― JuliaA, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

Matchy track suits are either really really ghetto-slash-Jersey or really really Trixie, here. I can't think of a type in-between who wear them.

― Laurel, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

Julia, just like a good Orthodox girl should.

― Laurel, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

incidentally, i don't know what the fuck is up with me today, i don't know if it's the weather or what but some really strange stuff going on here.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

xxxp They're quite charming and girlish and hippie-ish.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

if i had a velour track suit i'm pretty sure i'd wear it about 6 days a week.

I have velour track pants, and they are regular housetrou.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

wow, i don't own velour anything.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

Velour is awesome. I have a couple of velour items.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

i have not owned velour since the 70s. (well, probably early 80s).

i had an orange velour shirt. and probably other things.

― JuliaA, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

Matchy track suits are either really really ghetto-slash-Jersey or really really Trixie, here. I can't think of a type in-between who wear them.

I don't know if it's in between, but that sounds like drug kingpin wear, as well.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

my 2nd grade picture i'm wearing a velour striped shirt. i loved it, i was always very tactile, even back then.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

xpost I only say that because I saw it on the wire. When Avon got out of prison, the first thing he was given was proper clothes. A white track suit.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

SPOILER

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

Matchy track suits are either really really ghetto-slash-Jersey or really really Trixie, here. I can't think of a type in-between who wear them.

Ha, this is true. I'm thinking of Julie Cooper on The O.C. as embodying the latter camp.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

xpost Oh, I guess it is. I REPENT.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

j/k (I've seen it anyway)

I googled "Julie Cooper tracksuit" and got the picture of the bunny stealing the cookie?

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

the bunny stealing the cookie should be a top result on every gis.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to keep talking about The O.C. as if you guys have seen it.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

Like we talk about The Wire. Fair's fair.

― kenan, Monday, 23 April 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

i will never see either so knock yourselves out.

later gators.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

You read The Wire and listen to Wire and watch The Wire. And then talk about Wire and The Wire and The Wire.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

You drink OJ and wear OP and watch the O.C. And then talk about the OJ and the OP and the OC.

― Eazy, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

http://slimages.macys.com/is/image/MCY/products/7/optimized/257047_fpx.tif?bgc=255,255,255&wid=273&qlt=90,0&layer=comp&op_sharpen=0&resMode=bicub&op_usm=0.7,1.0,0.5,0&fmt=jpeg

― Eazy, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

My ultimate goal in fashion is to dress like an old man, and I'd like to do that as unironically as possible.

However, my default causal outfit always ends up being jeans, American Apparel hoody and a threadless shirt. Old men don't wear those things. It's comfortable though.

― Jeff, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

Men's track suits can be divided distinctly into athletic and un-athletic.

― Eazy, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

Oh I had a work-related question for Kevin.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:13 (eighteen years ago)

Re tracksuits, I keep thinking of the Michael Lerner character in Safe Men.

― jaymc, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:16 (eighteen years ago)

I think I need to buy some new shorts. Yes, I love wearing shorts.

― Jeff, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

Take that sweaty shin hipster.

― Jeff, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

A Fish Named Wisconsin

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

(is who I will be fishsitting this week)

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

2x shorts love

I recently made a shorts run to TJ Maxx. Big score on DKNY shorts, and one pair ain't even cargos!

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 23:14 (eighteen years ago)

I don't wear shorts.

― Jordan, Monday, 23 April 2007 23:16 (eighteen years ago)

You sweaty shinned hipster.

― dan m, Monday, 23 April 2007 23:27 (eighteen years ago)

RE: sweat pants with writing on the butt --

As I said at brunch on Sunday, I'm going to make a pair of sweat pants that says "BROWN" across the ass. Or "GO FUCK YOURSELF."

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 00:25 (eighteen years ago)

PEOPLE GUESS WHAT I came home and my coffee from this morning was STILL WARM.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 00:29 (eighteen years ago)

Those would look good on the ass of a pair of sweatpants.
PEOPLE GUESS WHAT or STILL WARM.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 02:19 (eighteen years ago)

PEOPLE GUESS WHAT is pretty awesome. I think I can make that happen in an afternoon.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 02:48 (eighteen years ago)

Tonight was awesome for walking. Went for a quick walk that ended up over 3 miles long and ended with a grilled cheese at Mac's. And I realzied that I'd somehow never been down Evergreen to see the Nelson Algren sign.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 02:51 (eighteen years ago)

uh

I made a batch of hummus* tonight.

There is a small flat spot on the end of my thumb, but it didn't bleed.

I must have nicked myself at some point, I'm guessing while cutting the garlic.

I don't know where that little flap of skin went!

*the story aside, it's really really reaaally good

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 02:53 (eighteen years ago)

Also, what target audience does Q101 have in 2007? This is the line-up for this year's block party. WTF?

"June 15th we have Godsmack, Buckcherry, Taproot and Finger Eleven.

June 16th is Good Charlotte, Sum 41, Violent Femmes, The Bravery, Shiny Toy Guns!"

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 02:55 (eighteen years ago)

Ha, I don't know who three of those bands are. I'm looking forward to the day when I recognize none. I'd see the Femmes though.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 03:06 (eighteen years ago)

So tired, so hungry. I am too embarrassed to wear my velour pants out of the house, unless it's to Walgreens at 2 am to get cough medicine, because I just kind of feel like a hooch in things like that.
I have a coworker who intentionally wears too-tight track bottoms with the frat boy tuck. It's quite creepy, especially when we're trying to focus on making Last King of Scotland displays.

― jocelyn, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 03:47 (eighteen years ago)

I don't wear shorts.

Why the hell not?

I have yet to wear shorts during the warm days we've been having since I've been going to work every day, but soon...oh, soon....

I have nice legs, so I think it's my obligation to wear shorts. I think my ass is holding up all right too, but I sometimes wonder since I haven't had any compliments recently and I kind of miss them. (If you happen to find yourself thinking I have a cute derriere, a verbal would be appreciated.)

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 05:10 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.suntimes.com/news/transportation/355051,cst-nws-bus24.article

― Jeff, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 11:33 (eighteen years ago)

!

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:28 (eighteen years ago)

That could potentially be useful.

Yesterday, we bought a desk off of someone on craigslist, only to find that it would not fit in our car. So I had to carry it home. Fortunately, it wasn't that heavy and I was only carrying it from Milwaukee and Evergreen, but it was still a chore. Anyways, now our second bedroom finally looks decent.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

Shout-out to Sarah for spending a long time cleaning and working on the second bedroom (previously the "guitar room," now more of an office/guest bedroom since most of our music stuff is at the practice space) while I passed out on the couch after carrying the desk home.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:44 (eighteen years ago)

I am listening to Steely Dan.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 12:44 (eighteen years ago)

I don't wear shorts.

Why the hell not?


have you ever seen my legs? it's not something the general public needs to be subjected to.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:06 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.suntimes.com/news/transportation/355051,cst-nws-bus24.article

Good! I was afraid they would just abandon this. The time to get a Blackberry draws closer!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:07 (eighteen years ago)

Wait. I thought it was Jordan who didn't wear shorts. Ottertrap.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:07 (eighteen years ago)

Is it because your legs are skinny? Or white?

I think I'll hit the tanning bed this afternoon.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

i will go beyond skinny and say "spindley". and beyond white into "translucent". i'm like one of those sea creatures that lives at the bottom of the atlantic in depths so deep that sunlight can't penetrate it. i've taken on coloring heretofore unseen in nature.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

The first routes to be added will originate from the North Park garage as dozens of the routes operate throughout areas that are most impacted by three-track operation. Bus Tracker will be operational throughout CTA’s entire bus fleet early in 2008.

Later this year, customers will be able to find estimated arrival times for the following routes:

• #11 Lincoln/Sedgwick

• #22 Clark

• #36 Broadway

• #49B North Western

• #93 California/Dodge

• #96 Lunt

• #97 Skokie

• #X98 Avon Express

• #125 Water Tower Express

• #135 Clarendon/LaSalle Express

• #136 Sheridan/LaSalle Express

• #143 Stockton/Michigan Express

• #144 Marine/Michigan Express

• #145 Wilson/Michigan Express

• #146 Inner Drive/Michigan Express

• #147 Outer Drive Express

• #148 Clarendon/Michigan Express

• #151 Sheridan

• #152 Addison

• #154 Wrigley Field Express

• #155 Devon

• #200 Main Shuttle

• #201 Central/Ridge

• #205 Chicago/Golf

• #206 Evanston Circulator

― Jeff, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

That's like every single bus I take.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

that's exactly no bus i take.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

Yay for Broadway bus being on that list.

Since I need to replace my phone anyway, I would like to get a web-enabled device, and this would be wonderful to have at my fingertips.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

LITERALLY

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

Oh breakfast panini, how could they have done you so wrong?

Burnt bread, barely cooked bacon, ice cold peppers and cheese. :(

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

No #2, no credibility.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

I need to time how long it takes me to get from our apartment to the closest Broadway stops so I can know when run outside.

I got another idea for sweatpants text:

NOW HEAR THIS

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan, I am sorry to hear of your breakfast problem. Nobody should have to face a bad breakfast.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

DO NOT ENTER


xpost.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

I don't wear shorts.

Why the hell not?

1) I'd need to buy sneakers and non-black socks
2) big hairy legs
3) only own 1 pair

I shouldn't make such blanket statements, I'll admit I usually take my one (1) pair of shorts to New Orleans.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:53 (eighteen years ago)

Thank you Jenny, I know you are a woman who aims breakfast.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

favorite thing i've read today, from a review of the penetrators re-issues on swami (which i still need to get, all i have is the kings of basement rock lp):

"Rock 'n' Roll Face" and "Stop Action" suggest the Rolling Stones on Cheetos and beer instead of heroin and blowjobs.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

I can't figure out if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

it's an awesome thing.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 13:59 (eighteen years ago)

This is somewhat related to Kevin's post, but also to a problem I face when talking about music with "normal" people.

When you are talking about a band that you like, is it better to a) assume that your listener doesn't know who they are and give a detailed explanation of who they are, what they sound like, what kind of music they play, etc., or b) give them the benefit of the doubt and just start talking about the band like you're sure they know what you're talking about? I feel like neither is perfect, as a) can come off as condescending, but b) is presumptuous and forces them in an awkward position if they don't know the band you're talking about.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

who the fuck is calling me from new mexico?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

1) I'd need to buy sneakers and non-black socks
2) big hairy legs
3) only own 1 pair

1. I wear casual shoes with short black socks with shorts
2. you're a guy, hair legs are the norm
3. buy more

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

nick, unless it's someone who has similar musical taste in mine i assume that they will have no idea of the band i'm talking about and probably won't like it anyway. but i've been surprised before.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

as mine. i'm fucking up left and right this morning.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

When you are talking about a band that you like, is it better to....

Preface whatever you have to say with "Have you heard of ______?"

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

have you head of shostakovich? yeah, the penetrators are nothing like that.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

Stick to bands on the radio when talking to normal people about music.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

eazy, that would limit me to dick biondi's record library. i only listen to the radio when i'm washing the dishes or making dinner or breakfast.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

I'm always surprised at the things people haven't heard of. I mentioned Radiohead at work the other day and a couple of the servers (in their late twenties, white) didn't know who they were. One of the people working thought I was talking about Portishead, and that opened up a whole new round of "Who?".

That guy Patrick who I went on a couple of dates with also had no clue who Radiohead is. He's my age.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

or john 'records' landecker. that dude isn't even trying anymore, i'm disappointed.

xpost.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

The thing is, he's otherwise pop-culture savvy. On his Yahoo Personals profile he says he's "not into music--more of a movie guy" which is an odd thing to say.

ottertrap

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

Preface whatever you have to say with "Have you heard of ______?"

Except if they have heard of it, you sound like a condescending jerk. "Umm, yeah, there's this band, mmmmaybe you've heard of them ... THE BEATLES?"

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

I do not believe it ever gets hot enough here for shorts. I believe that the only place that men should be seen wearing shorts are either on a quarter mile track or the surface of the sun.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

Find a U2 record you don't mind and talk about that.

I'm kidding about all this. Nick's dilemma reflect why I like one-on-one conversations more than three- and four-way ones when it comes to talking about anything with a specialized angle.

I admire that personals guy's spartan tastes. Not really into music. Better than a guy not into music spending $1,000 on faddish CDs to try to be into music.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

I disagree.

ottertrap to Nick

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin, we should experiment with various self tanning lotions this summer.

Jordan, get thee to a tennis shoe store. Tennis shoes rule. I'm wearing my fancy Nikes today.

I prefer to wear skirts in the summer. I mean, us womenfolk have the option of fresh breezes down there, so why pass it up? However, I did invest in one pair of shorts thanks to Pitchf0rk last year.

xpost I don't understand all these traps. Are they just xposts?

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

lolol

ADMINISTER FREQUENT, SAVAGE BEATINGS. I am shocked at the number of times this was suggested. For shame, sisters. I know it can be truly frustrating when she will not stay and listen to all you say, but we are nuns! Nuns!

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

i just came across this dude's want list at a hardcore/garage/punk msg board and he's willing to pay way too much for a bunch of oop lps that i own. i wish i wasn't so irrationally attached to my records because i could use the money.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

I hope they get this at our local (video store).

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin, we should experiment with various self tanning lotions this summer.

sarah, we really really shouldn't. i'm fine with being pale.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

bbbut we could be ORANGE!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

As I'm sure I've mentioned (or you have all simply witnessed), I only have two colors, white and red. There is no pretty in-between.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.infendo.com/wonka_oompa_loompa.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

I just think it seems odd for someone of our generation who lives in teh same world as me (public school, going to bars, spending time on the internet, listening to unavoidable radio (I mean who hasn't heard "Creep" on the radio a million times?)) could not know who Radiohead is?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:19 (eighteen years ago)

Nick, do not talk to normal people about music geek bands.

(I'm working on this)

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

dude, it was a pizza place, you could have ordered extra sausage.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

ok Chilx, I turn to you in an hour of need. I don't know where to go with this mix.

1. Monkey Business - Skid Row
2. Too Young to Fall In Love - Motley Crue
3. Ain't Talkin' Bout Love - Van Halen
4. Round and Round - Ratt
5. Nighttrain - Guns N' Roses
6. Round and Round - Aerosmith

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan, get thee to a tennis shoe store. Tennis shoes rule. I'm wearing my fancy Nikes today.

No. Don't encourage Jenny to wear her stupid white sneakers with jeans. They're comfortable, but they're athletic shoes. Don't give NYCers a reason to make fun of us.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

I downloaded some Metallica last night, and apart from not fitting at all on that mix, I really just can't stand it. They think they're real deep, don't they? Grrrr.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

ok Chilx, I turn to you in an hour of need. I don't know where to go with this mix.
1. Monkey Business - Skid Row
2. Too Young to Fall In Love - Motley Crue
3. Ain't Talkin' Bout Love - Van Halen
4. Round and Round - Ratt
5. Nighttrain - Guns N' Roses
6. Round and Round - Aerosmith



the dumpster would be my suggestion.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

If you want to bring it down a notch before a full-throttle third act, "Slow 'n' Easy" by Whitesnake and/or "Last In Line" by Dio.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

I downloaded some Metallica last night, and apart from not fitting at all on that mix, I really just can't stand it. They think they're real deep, don't they? Grrrr.

Ha ha-- I was in the bathroom at Argo Tea yesterday and I thought, "You know what band I like? Metallica."

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

Then I thought, "Guess what? Chicken butt."

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

guess why? chicken thighs.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

DIO! Yes. Thank you, Eric.


pbbbbbbtthhh, Kevin.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

In high school I looooooved Metallica

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

Things I have learned from Metallica:

1. War is bad
2. Death is, like, totally heavy
3. Girls are not worth writing songs about

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

In high school I looooooved Metallica

heh. Yeah, me too. That's exactly the right age to fully appreciate it.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

http://lifesonglyrics.com/pics/Metallica.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

7. "Talk Dirty to Me" - Poison (?)

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

Which is my favorite song maybe.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

Probably not.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

Also needs "Cherry Pie" by Warrant

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

These guys are totally listening to Metallica.

http://smv.berkeley.edu/features/2005/t17.jpg

Also, they are wearing shorts. So not gonna happen.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

Nick, you are a genius.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

Nick, here's the roundabout answer to your question. If Jesse and I were at a table and talking about Edward Albee's plays, what would you want us to do? Stop talking about them? Compare them to something you like? Or go into detail? Whichever answer feels right is the answer to your music dilemma.

I liked the Metallica movie. In high school I felt like I should get into them, but whenever I heard their songs (sometimes after having read the lyrics on notebooks or BBSes) they never blew me away. I guess I liked the poppier metal and then scarier stuff like Joy Division, and they were kind of in between.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

Needs more Whitesnake

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

I tried "Here I Go Again," but I discovered that unlike what I have so far, I don't actually enjoy listening to it. (I anticipate this problem with "Cherry Pie" as well, but I don't want to knock it till I've tried it.)

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

Cherry Pie is so good. It's such a well-constructed and fun pop song.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

Oh! Oh! I downloaded Aerosmith "Pandora's Box" last night, too. I had this in high school. Me and a friend each bought a copy, and obsessed over it. It's still fucking awesome.

xpost I will give it a chance, Nick. I promise.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

Where th fuck is Jenny? She could totally help.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

Ugly Kid Joe
Skid Row

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

I got Skid Row as the first track, yo! Man, that dude can scream.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

I would throw in some she-metal, like RTX, L7, and Silverfish. (or, maybe those are all more she-punk than metal...)

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

Oh. Well then maybe some Motley Crue?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

Goattrap

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, man. Now I feel like listening to H0le. How uncool.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

No. Don't encourage Jenny to wear her stupid white sneakers with jeans.

HA. Guess what I'm wearing right now?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

Yeaaaahhh I really want to I really want to.. I really dooooo

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

I'd drop it back for some early '80s Maiden or Priest somewhere too. I'm thinking either "The Trooper" or "Living After Midnight". And maybe something recent-ish, maybe a DragonForce guitar fest.

But thats just me.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

Def Leppard - On Through the Night

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

Judas Priest - Living after Midnight

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

Oh. Well then maybe some Motley Crue?

haha I think you're kidding. I mean, I can only assume.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

Whoops, yeah like Jon said.

The Trooper is good, too.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

btw, you ppl should go see Offside at the Music Box (girls try to sneak into big Tehran soccer game against the theocrats' ban). Just cuz it's Iranian doesn't mean it's difficult.

You may resume yr popmetal musings.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

Oontag-eegan-glauten-glowten + cowbell

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, man. Now I feel like listening to H0le. How uncool.

:( You just reminded me that I forgot to put Hole's discography on my iPod.

I'll just watch Lost instead on my way to work. I realized recently that I never saw the season 2 finale episode--the one where the sky turns purple. That explains a lot of gaps in knowlege.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

Quiet Riot - Metal Health

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

Accept - Balls to the Wall

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I downloaded some Quiet Riot, too! I think "Cum On Feel The Noize" is the way to go, though.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

Rainbow - Since You've Been Gone

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

Something about someone shouting "BANG YOUR HEAD" just screams awful cheeze. And say what you want about the tracks I picked already, but they are not cheezy. I will fight over this.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41YD1PZBN0L._SS500_.jpg

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

Mayyyybe.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

judas pries- you got another thing coming
ac/dc- whole lotta rosie
ozzy- suicide solution
sammy hagar- your love is driving me crazy
tesla- little suzi
w.a.s.p.- animal (fuck like a beast)

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

first person to mention dokken gets hit in the mouth with a wrench.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

w.a.s.p.- animal (fuck like a beast)

You're kidding... that's a real song? That is beyond awesome.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

you've never seen the album cover?!?!??

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

What are the boundaries of your theme? 80s metal that's more testosterone than hairspray?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

off to do a quick google image surf, be right back...

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

I was thinking Dokken "Into The Fire" when I was away a few minutes ago...

I like how the TS logo seems to be a distorted version of the Frank Lloyd Wright font.

And then "Stay Hungry" is whatever font was used for Thanksgiving in Grindhouse.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

I ALMOST MENTIONED DOKKEN. But I was going for something off the first record.

xp - Eric, that's the very song I was going to suggest.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

And for ac/dc, I was thinking of either Dirty Deeds or something off of High Voltage.

80s metal that's more testosterone than hairspray?

I knew you would understand. Blooze is not out of line, either.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/413EYNTC1GL._SS500_.jpg

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

Ah. A tender, attentive lover.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

blackie lawless used to wear that codpiece on stage. fucking hilarious. as is a grown man going by the name "blackie lawless".

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

He's dark, AND he's dangerous. Don't believe him? IT'S RIGHT THERE IN HIS NAME.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

Blackie Lawless vs. Lucy Lawless.. FITE!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

On those thematic TV comps there's always one totally random song that doesn't quite fit... For this comp, I suggest Journey.

xp - Wow. I am actually disturbed by that album cover. I also like how the implication that he just sawed into a woman's vagina with his circular saw crotch (ie all the blood) is okay but the word "fuck," well, we gotta censor that!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

No shit, that's like something out of the movie Seven.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

how does one get a seat on the bus wearing something like that?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

xpost His sin was Rock.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

The highlight of my drive home on Sunday was Paradise City on the radio, cranked.

xpost, haven't you guys seen Decline of Western Civilization pt II?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

They're comfortable, but they're athletic shoes.

Haha, in college I had this edict that I would never date anyone who wore athletic shoes as her primary footwear (i.e., she could have a pair for jogging, but not as an everyday shoe).

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

how does one get a seat on the bus wearing something like that?

veeeeery carefully.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

i kinda want to hear that sammy hagar song i mentioned up there, i haven't heard it in a while but i remember it as being a pretty poppy little song.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

do you think he'd write off "carbide circular saw blades" on his tax returns every year?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

It's such a fine line between clever and stupid.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

as long as there's sex and drugs i can do without the rock 'n' roll.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

A good (the only good?) Twisted Sister choice would be "The Price", the ballad single from Stay Hungry. It's kind of their "Turn The Page".

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

Kenan, do you want to cross over into Megadeth/Slayer/Testament territory with this mix?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

Marty DiBergi: "This tasteless cover is a good indication of the lack of musical invention within. The musical growth of this band cannot even be charted. They are treading water in a sea of retarded sexuality and bad poetry."
Nigel Tufnel: That's just nitpicking, isn't it?

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

boy, i picked a good day to try to get you clowns to go see an Iaranian film.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

What about Anthrax?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

Kenan, do you want to cross over into Megadeth/Slayer/Testament territory with this mix?

I only know one Megadeth track, and it's that one... you know, the one that's awesome. With the bassline.

Slayer and Testament are devil music, so I am unfamiliar.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny OTM, I should make a thrash mix. I couldn't stand most pop metal in middle school/high school, it was all about the Metallica/Megadeth/Slayer/Maiden/obscuro prog-thrash bands.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

SHIT SANDWICH

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

Listen here Morbius, I could drop all this cock metal chatter and go enjoy that Iranian film without blinking an eye. And enjoy the hell out of it, it sounds like.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

MANOWAR

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

MACABRE

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

If those girls were sneaking in to see the Scorps, Mobius, that'd be a rockin movie.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

Metallica/Megadeth/Slayer/Maiden/obscuro prog-thrash bands

As I touched on upthread, I think my problem with this stuff is it's one-two combo of "political" (STOP IT YOU'RE BLOWING MY MIND) and it's total lack of interest in getting laid, which I cannot even begin to relate to.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

See, Steven Tyler... he gets laid.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

I have nothing to add to this metal mix.

I think I do a pretty good job with being able to sense what a person might or might not be familiar with. I had a girlfriend once in college, though, who, when I explained things I thought she might not know, got all incensed and was like, "God, John, I know who Stan Brakhage is." But yeah, if I'm not sure, I'll preface it with, "So do you know that band Xiu Xiu?" or whatever.

I do think it's weird that someone our age who knows Portishead wouldn't know Radiohead, though. I had a (gay, Cuban, mid-30s) co-worker who was familiar with Radiohead, but only as that horribly depressing band that sings about being a creep all the time.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

That's part of why I liked it. I mean, I was interested in getting laid, but I couldn't have everyone know it, right?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

metal is played out

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

What isn't?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

If those girls were sneaking in to see the Scorps, Mobius, that'd be a rockin movie.

That would be something that we could all really get together on, I agree.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

xpost shorts

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

Both the "Creep" guy and the Portishead guy heard music in their early 20s, when MTV identified the band and song name, and never had post-1996 Radiohead directly marketed to them, except somewhere like the Gap where it wouldn't be identified.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

familiar with Radiohead, but only as that horribly depressing band that sings about being a creep all the time.

Also known as the Radiohead I liked.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

who had the more offensive/misogynistic/hilarious album covers, whitesnake or the scorpions?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

Abbäs Kiörastämi, Taste of Cherry Pie

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

and i insist whenever you say "the scorpions" you pronounce it like klaus meine and say "DAS SCOHRPY-YAAAAHHNSSZZ!"

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

except somewhere like the Gap where it wouldn't be identified.

Who was talking about that line of jackets that were named after Radiohead songs?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

oh and shit, the scorpions "no one like you" should be on there.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

I always found this one hilarious:

http://www.foothillcougars.com/justforfun/classicrock/kiss/Love%20Gun.jpg

xp to Kev re: No One Like You - YES IT SHOULD.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

Cod pieces, penis metaphors, female sex slaves in Kiss makeup, rock hard marble pillars...

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

[i]who had the more offensive/misogynistic/hilarious album covers, whitesnake or the scorpions?[/]

Definitely Scorpions... see one Virgin Killer, one Animal Magnetism, and one Lovedrive.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

WHOA Virgin Killer! I'd never seen that before (thank you mom for keeping an eye on what records I bought when I was a kid). That's really bad!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

holy crap, no way I'm going to post that image here. Distuuuuuurbing.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, that is pretty awful. whitesnake's "lovehunter" seems like a bad tattoo by comparison.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

FOOLISH AHMERICANS YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE METAL

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

THE RAMPAGING TEUTONIC FORCE THAT IS SCORPIAHHHHNS

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, Virgin Killer for the offensive, Animal Magnetism for the misogynistic, and Lovedrive for the hilarious. I mean, honestly, who thought this said "metal"?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/65/Scorpions-album-lovedrive.jpg

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

TO A CHERMAHN IT IS POPMUSIK

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

OK I'll stop.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

Someone pls to post jpgs of early Pantera album covers (Power Metal etc.)

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/aa/PanteraMetalMagic.jpg

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cb/PanteraIAmTheNight.jpg

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

:)

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha those are terrible

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

That Lovedrive cover is reminding me of something, but I don't know if it's a genuine Cover Connection or if I'm just thinking of similar suits employed on the covers of Trans-Europe Express and The Pleasure Principle.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

Those album covers were originally drawn on a geometry book

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

I like the backwards-facing ax that the demon thing is carrying. Careful there, tiger.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

It looks disturbingly like digital furry art.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.lawrencesim.com/fanta7.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

dudes, you're just a coffee shop. unbunch those undies.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

They're going to change the fuckin' world maaaaaaaaaaan.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

And, y'know, make a tidy profit in the process.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

Ha, I walked by Blend last night and there seemed to be some seriously intense meeting of the minds going on in that circle inside.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

Knowing that, there is no progress without struggle. The story of this beautiful struggle is still unfolding in this Urban Fairytale. The future is not predictable:

Characters yet to be seen

Challenges yet to be overcome

Mysteries yet to be solved

Lives yet to be changed

Villains yet to be thwarted

Heroes yet to be discovered

Masterpieces yet to be created

Their journey continues today

Perhaps you are part of this story unfolding in the midst of History.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

There's an article on Journey's Greatest Hits on Stylus today.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not drinking coffee made out of a love for God. I mean, COME ON!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

I like my coffee pagan.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

Who writes that bullshit, and are they laughing their ass of while they do it?

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

ass ofF

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

Sadly, I doubt it.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

Villains yet to be thwarted
Villains yet to be thwarted
Villains yet to be thwarted
Villains yet to be thwarted
Villains yet to be thwarted
Villains yet to be thwarted

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

Change the world. Buy this $5 cup of coffee.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

i will still be going to letizia's except in cases like last sunday when i was coming back from ashland & division at 8 a.m. actually, i did stop by letizia's because it was the first place i passed that was open that wasn't named milk & honey.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:54 (eighteen years ago)

xpost Toto, I don't think we're in the Left Bank anymore.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

hey, i totally just stole this from salon but it's good reading:


Tuesday April 24, 2007 08:11 EST
David Halberstam, patriotism and courage
Halberstam's September 2004, essay in Vanity Fair (not available online) powerfully examined how the two concepts of "patriotism" and "courage" have been converted from meaningful values into crass political weapons by a political faction led by individuals who possess very little of either:

Who is a patriot today-someone who immediately puts a small American flag in his lapel, but sacrifices nothing in his own lifestyle, or someone without a pin, but who favors a dollar-a-gallon gas tax, because in the long run that will make us less dependent on a volatile, essentially hostile part of the world? Maybe they're both patriots, for who will ever know?

The truth is that the nature of patriotism changed dramatically in the years after World War II. Because we had the atomic weapon, America seemed invulnerable to foreign occupation. Its wars were now less about survival than about something abstract like collective security (Korea), or something which was quite possibly politically dubious (Vietnam). The path for the ascending governing class was now paved with easily attainable deferments.

The new post-A-bomb definition of patriotism was suddenly very different. The children of those who had volunteered immediately for World War II found no compelling reason to sign on for these new wars. Others could go in their place. This was true across the board politically, left and right. . . .

I cannot imagine this happening at another time: an assault on Kerry and his war record being orchestrated by men and women who did not go, who did not pay that terrible price physically and psychically. But this is clearly a different and more careless America. Reality is ever more fragile these days, placed as it is in the hands of the ever more skillful reality managers of both political parties.

Increasingly well financed, they excel at creating a reality that's better and more comforting than the old kind. How else could a president who did not fly in combat during a war when he had the chance choose to imitate a fighter pilot by landing on a carrier in full flight regalia to pose under a triumphant banner reading, mission accomplished? . . .

I should point out that the patriotic fault line is on occasion nonpartisan, although always ideological: the hard-liners and the neocons, who always seem to know who is a patriot and who is not, were convinced that Ronald Reagan, who did not serve in World War II, except to make propaganda movies in Hollywood, was a war hero, whereas the more moderate George H. W. Bush, who had signed up as a naval pilot on the day of his 18th birthday, was, as a Newsweek cover story suggested, always associated with the Wimp Factor. (Most of the Newsweek editors, as I pointed out in one of my books, had never heard a shot fired in anger.)

To my mind the original point man for the new superhawks, whose words are greater than their deeds, was Newt Gingrich: he became the leader of a new generation of Republican conservatives, who praised the cause of Vietnam and who were steadfast in attacking those who felt it was a terrible miscalculation. But Newt, like many of the other new superhawks, never went himself. (He used to brag that his stepfather had fought in Korea and Vietnam.)

To the new superhawks an America engaged in a worthy war of self-defense and a neo-imperial America engaged in a war that is a significant miscalculation of policy are the same thing. For them there is no right of dissent, no right to change your mind and protest a war, to say that your early support was based on inadequate evidence and the government's manipulation of the sacred trust between it and its citizens.

The superhawks' prototype is no longer Gingrich, now retired to the vastly more profitable world of lecturing and writing bad novels. Their new poster boy is the vice president himself, a man of great certitude, not just about Vietnam but about Iraq as well-his confidence and certitude hardly born of a life experience.

Richard Cheney received five-yes, five-deferments, a record that would make most men modest about speaking out on Vietnam and related subjects. He had not gone to Vietnam himself, he once famously told The Washington Post, because "I had other priorities." His confidence in the wisdom of the Vietnam War, however, remains unshakable. It was, he has said, a noble cause. . . .

I know that Dick Cheney is a shrewd and able man and that almost no one, not even Don Rumsfeld, is more skillful at operating in a bureaucracy, but I am inclined to think there is a terrible gap in his education, and I wish dearly that he had gotten one less deferment, had gone to Vietnam, had earned the C.I.B., and had used his high intelligence to learn about Vietnam as he seems to have learned about working in a bureaucracy. I think we'd all be better off for it.



In a November 2005 Vanity Fair essay, he examined the related theme -- how concepts of American "strength" and "power" have become wildly distorted beyond all recognition:
The collapse of the Soviet Union did not mean, ipso facto, we were a good society-because being better than a crude and brutal dictatorship is not good enough. But since we had won, we strutted.

We strut, all of us, too much. Our weaponry is so exceptional that our political leaders need no allies-they dictate our plans, and if the allies do not agree with us, they are called cowardly. Our businessmen are brittle, ever more sure of themselves and their deals and their right to prosper on an ever grander scale, whether or not they are competent at their jobs, even as they produce less and less in terms of real goods. Our celebrities, so loudly heralded in this entertainment age for what are often marginal talents, are more arrogant and more self-indulgent than ever. Our athletes, when they go overseas for international competition, are all too often an embarrassment in their personal behavior.

When did all this happen? What are the roots? As we achieved greater affluence in the 50 years after World War II, did we steadily become more arrogant than our parents and grandparents, more convinced that we were special and apart from other nations? Where is the country I thought I knew? Where did our modesty go?

One of my favorite speeches is General Dwight Eisenhower's Guildhall address, which he delivered in June 1945 in London, after being made an honorary citizen of that city. Beautifully written and infinitely modest, it is a magnificent speech, made all the more memorable by the moment it represented-the transfer of leadership from one Western democracy, in decline, to another, younger and richer, just beginning to ascend. It contains the words of a man who, though he commanded a vast army, knew that the sacrifices had been made not by himself or the politicians but by the young men and women who had fought and were not coming back.

Eisenhower's voice that day was nothing less than America at its best-thoughtful, tempered, respectful of others, including those whose histories and sacrifices were greater than our own. His was the voice of a generous and confident man who spoke for a generous and confident nation. I read it often and still take comfort from it. It is a long way from the current cockiness of a man so full of braggadocio that he can say of a conflict with a new kind of extremely dangerous adversary, Bring it on. Are we so strident now because we are less sure of who we are and what the real sources of our strength are?


-- Glenn Greenwald

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

My coworker who I was annoyed with last week for handing work off to me is married to a pastry chef. Awhile ago, she said her husband and his buddy were looking at buying Alliance, but apparently the owner was asking too much. However, she told me a couple of weeks ago that the buddy went ahead and bought it. I was saying they shouldn't change too much about it because it's really popular. She said, well there were some things that they didn't like about Alliance that they were going to HAVE to change. One of those things apparently is the chocolate-chip cookies. "He just doesn't do things like that," is what she said. I don't know exactly what she meant by that, but I think it's at the root of why I am annoyed by this coworker.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

Is *what* she meant by that the root of why you are annoyed, or is it the fact that you don't *know* what she meant by that?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

oh, pastrychefs

My friend Sam works at Alliance, I wonder what he thinks.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

speaking of insane prices, ronny's is up for sale. asking price = $1.2M

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

Hmmm... I think I would be annoyed by what I perceive as the "what" of that sentence: that chocolate chip cookies, one of the finest things ever invented by human beings, is somehow below him as a pastry chef/bakery owner.

I just looked at this evite and Jesse neglected to invite Kenan and Eric and Horseshoe. I have remedied the situation.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

Did she mean that the cookies are sub-par, or that the idea of cookies is laughable in and of itself?

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

I have always wanted to won a bar. Let's pitch in and buy Ronny's and rename it THURSTY THIRSDAY'S.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

Is that the bakery that you guys played at?

I won a bar in a drinking contest once.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan = Bill Brasky?

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

Pointless pretension makes me furious.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

i already have detailed plans for several bars but i'm sure we can develop a TT's plan as well.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, there's no need for a whole new plan if you've already got several cooking. I'm happy to be a silent partner. Can I bartend a couple nights a week?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

I can do free legal consultations while I'm at it. I'd like to cater to a clientele who would find happy hour specials and free legal advice to be a useful combination.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

My plan is to open a bar called DUMB BAR.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

The Full Bottle

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

Nick and Sarah say the word "dumb" a lot. Not to make you self-conscious or anything. I think you've mentioned how you say "weird" a lot, too.

In spoken conversation, I totally say "totally" all the time.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

You totally do.

I say "cool" too much too... and "awesome."

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

I think my bar will be called Hootie McBoob's.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

and "actually"

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

I saw "awesome", "nice", and "sweet" a lot. :(

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, my bar will be The Dead Armadillo (known as The 'Dillo to regs) and this will be our mascot:

http://www.auralfixation.net/da/armadillolrg.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

At least those are all positive words.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

beartrap?

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

kenan, rethink it, everyone will call it "the dill hole".

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.achewood.com/shop/rsrc/img/mousepad_dude.jpg

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

xpost Is that a reference to A Prayer for Owen Meany?

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

I do use "weird" too much. I use "dumb" a lot because I like it. As I've noted, I also equivocate way too much ("kinda," "I think," etc.).

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

You know, "The Dill Hole" isn't bad as a bar name.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, "The Dill Hole" would make a great pickle specialty store.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

Equivocation is a good thing IMO. (see?)

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

Are there laws about naming businesses with profanities?

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

Well, more that qualifying things as one's opinon is a good thing.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

I kind of equivocate a lot in writing, I think, but I'm trying to stop. Not so much in real life (I think?!).

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

Refusing to equivocate is one of my less attractive personality traits.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

WTF?! It's only 11:25?!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

I just ate lunch, and I'm still hungry.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

I think I'm going to see Hot Fuzz tonight. It looks great.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

Equivocation has it's place.

I'm about to start making some red beans and rice, people. I am very excited about this.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.voidspace.org.uk/images/silly_cat.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

Gimme.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

To quote myself:

better wait and see how it turns out
i have a spotty track record with these things

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

Don't forget hot sauce.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

DUH

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

http://scheize.de/pics/japan-house.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

on my way down to beverly on saturday we passed a bar at 66th & western called the sexty sex lounge. we weren't sure if it was as strip club or what.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

Sexty?

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

Geddit, cuz it's on 66th.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

Ahhh...

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

ok, remember this? I wonder if Uncle Fun still has that. I need a place for my change.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, btw, may not be SFW. It's the magical haunted bloodsnatch.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

I am one hungry hungry hippo.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

X...post?

― Laurel, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

heh

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

I think I may have killed every thread on ilx at the same time.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

me reviving a thread about periods is just BEGGING for it, isn't it?

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

I think I may have killed every thread on ilx at the same time.

And with the same image!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry, that image is k-classic, if only so you can shake your head and say, "What the fuck is wrong with the Japanese?"

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

hey, my upstairs neighbor is a week overdue for having her baby so they're going to induce labor tomorrow at noon. what would you buy a couple who are having their first kid? i asked my sister what she would've wanted from a neighbor when she had her kid last july and she said "cook them some meals and offer to do laundry". since i can't manage to do that for myself let alone my friends i think i'll buy something but i don't know what that something should be. little help?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

what i don't know about buying gifts could fill libraries

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

mike, susie, i got you guys a carton of luckies and bottle of bushmills. enjoy.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

It would be so fun to send press packets to the Red Eye announcing the simultaneous openings of Hootie McBoob's and Dumb Bar.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin, Do you have any idea if they are having a baby shower? Anyway, one thing I've learned is that the couple tends to get inundated with cute little teeny tiny baby clothes. If the baby can even fit the newbie clothes, he/she outgrows them really quickly. So the lesson is to get them something for a 6 month old (doesn't always correspond to age either).

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

Or just go with something like this:
http://www.psychobabyonline.com/site/largepics/533/28972/179947/249172/ramones_onesie.jpg

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

or this
http://www.psychobabyonline.com/site/largepics/533/43034/169318/234332/jpg_led_zeppelin.jpg

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

Grups go home.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

ramones are overplayed

http://www.babywit.com/images/stock/ACDCINFANTLG.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

and won’t shut up about the latest Death Cab for Cutie CD

kill him

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.babywit.com/images/stock/MOTORINFLG.jpg

This is almost enough to make me want children.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

haha

http://www.babywit.com/images/clip/ARF124.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:31 (eighteen years ago)

Ear hats

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

And it's never to early to give a kid books.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

The two co-ed baby showers I went to last year, I brought those little stuffed birds that make the appropriate bird call when squeezed.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

The Brothers Karamazov

― Jeff, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

John: I identified with that Journey article in a big big way. I just went to Jewel and they were playing Dreamer by Supertramp and I was unreasonably happy about that.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

WAIT! I am 30 and I like to wear jeans and listen to an iPod! Holyfuck, call the trend police.

I better never have children.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

I identified with that Journey article in a big big way

I thought you might. I was interested in the discussion about the regionalization of radio, which, along with my age, might explain my ignorance of AOR.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

turkey BLT, cup of "beanie weenie", pickle, and a little bit of organic beef jerky, good lord

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

PBH, "Tokyo Mix," orange La Croix, plum. Still hungry :(

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

PBR, dude.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

PBH?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

Acronym Definition

PBH Peak Busy Hour
PBH Plowing, Broadcasting, Harrowing
PBH Prefeitura Municipal de Belo Horizonte (Brazil)
PBH Priced By the Hour
PBH Primitive Binding Handle

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

Peanut Butter Ham

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

Peanut Butter Honey.

I love the ear hats. :-D

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

Peanut butter + honey, you morans

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

I really enjoyed the Grup article. Thanks, John. I'm not anti-Grup though.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

peanut butter hand

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

i dunno, the grup article seemed like a collection of hip references itself, way more annoying than the people it was supposed to be about

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

peanut butter haddock

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

I can see how Grups are annoying but I'm not sure what the alternative is ... force yourself to stop listening to indie rock and forcefeed yourself with Lawrence Welk instead? Self-imposed "maturity" via signifiers isn't maturity.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

peanut butter hammock

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

peanut butter hamhock

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah i don't understand how anything in that article points to an unusual or new demographic. People who read magazines and listen to rock? Would it still be a story if they read the Bible and listened to country?

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

peanut butter ham sock

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

holy shit people in their 30's buy cars and have babies, better write an article about that pronto

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

And it's never to early to give a kid books.

her mom is a children's librarian so i think she'll have that covered. it's got to be something i can pick up in the city. thanks for the suggestions though.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe i'm just annoyed because the people in the story *aren't* that interesting, are being spoonfed "culture" through sliiiiightly different media than they were a couple weeks ago, maybe. Bloc Party does not make you cool, ppl.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

WAIT! I am 30 and I like to wear jeans and listen to an iPod! Holyfuck, call the trend police.

That's the problem with articles like that. They make normal people who are comfortable how they present themselves feel like total assholes.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

Just go to Uncle Fun.

xpost

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

How about a cute stuffed animal puppet? Such items are available at most bookstores, toystores, or department stores.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think that the grups themselves are what's interesting. What's interesting is grups as a cultural phenomenon, which does seem unique to this day and age.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah i don't understand how anything in that article points to an unusual or new demographic. People who read magazines and listen to rock? Would it still be a story if they read the Bible and listened to country?

As I understand it, the demographic is people who read the same magazines and listen to the same rock bands as the generation below them. The article positions itself as an obit for the generation gap.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

True, true.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

Johnny Space Commander Mask.

http://www.whiterose.org/pete/blog/images/dan.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway, I haven't even re-read the whole article yet. But the Ramones babywear reminded me of it.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

My kitchen smells amazing. I'll be people going to Jewel are like, "Holy shit, what smells so good around here?"

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

The answer is RED BEANS AND RICE.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

Did you guys see this: "This is Why Africa is Hot" (MIMS/Toto mashup? It's pretty good, but they cut the chorus of This is WHy I'm Hot, which is the best part.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

The new JoJo song samples "Africa."

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

What should I eat as my second lunch, you guys?

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

But they kept the chorus of Africa, which is also the best part. I'm kind of surprised at how much I like those songs together!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

This will revolutionize music. It's like Aerosmith and Run DMC all over again!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

I really wish I liked the new Feist album more than I do. She's ditched all the smooth-jazz songs like "One Evening" and "Inside and Out."

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of "grups," I have thought about this before. Let's say Jeff and I have a kid. Having a kid is unlikely to make us stop paying attention to music, or make us suddenly start liking Phil Collins. So when the kid gets older, instead of having a cool older sibling in college to turn her on to Pavement, say, she'll have us. And then what? Will the fact that her parents like indie rock make indie rock defacto unappealing?

xp - I really like the new Feist. I think I am just in love with her voice.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

xp to myself - and so then who will turn kids on to what kind of music that they'd never heard of before? Is it going to be all stuff like My Chemical Romance? Because surely that appeals to noone over, say, 20.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

Let's start a new buzzword by referring to condoms as ham socks.

On Sunday I talked with a kid who was probably 13 or 14 and plays guitar in a band that, from his description, has four guitars and a drummer and their songs are all originals but are "Vietnam-era rock." So all hope for the future is not lost.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

I love Feist's voice, too, but without the eclectic arrangements, she's no better than Cat Power.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

That article is worthless. Cultural theory masturbation of little to no use to anyone in real life.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

And My Chemical Romance sounds like Queen these days.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/breaking/breaking-fire-at-the-dark-knight-shoot-in-chicago-254897.php

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

Yay Dan!

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin, I was going to suggest Dr. Seuss books but I forgot she was a librarian.

As such, my second honest answer is: A savings bond.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

When I was driving home yesterday, there were a couple of teens in a car next to me singing along to "Date Rape" by Sublime, and I was wondering how Sublime got passed down to the new generation. Older brothers are to blame I guess, but I'm sure Rolling Stone and Spin are still big-upping Sublime, right?

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

And what about Kevin's kids? They're going to almost have to get into boy bands or smooth jazz to get out from under their father's musical tastes.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

lol @ ham socks definition

The Bee Gees cover was my favorite song on the Feist album, which made me think I should probably just listen to disco.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

Rolling Stone and Spin write about music?

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

i'm never having any kids. i'm pretty sure i'd have to have sex again at some point for that to happen.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

I always try to imagine what kind of new music could be invented that would sound abrasive and offensive to my ears.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

Nick, I think frat boy culture is not advancing as quickly as you might think.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

like rap or heavy metal to my parents

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

(Sorry guys, I don't know what's gotten into me but I am super-duper cynical today. Must be the enlightening conversation I had over lunch with my old boss about the destruction of my entire department at work...)

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

Though as I've said before, the only music I ever listened to that my parents complained about was "Ventalin" by Aphex Twin (which is pretty obnoxious).

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

But these weren't frat boys, they looked like high school kids.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

Nick, I think our parenting style should involve alot of noise music.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

That's it, fifteen minutes of timeout! Go to your room and turn on the Merzbow!

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

Seriously, though, I would like you to expand on that. For one, I don't really understand "cultural theory masturbation": did I miss the multiple references to Baudrillard and Deleuze? As for "little to no use to anyone in real life": "real life" as opposed to what? And since when did we measure cultural journalism by how practical it is? I do have misgivings as to how pronounced of a trend this actually is, or whether it's another case of hipster writers writing about other hipsters as if they represent the entire world (let it be remembered that this appeared in New York Magazine, however) -- but I do think that the larger point about the generation gap narrowing (perhaps as a result of a postmodern crisis in which there's a lack of innovation in art) is a good and interesting one.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

Wouldn't the generation gap narrowing be a GOOD thing?

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think anyone argued otherwise...?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

Well, the tone of the article is pretty negative about the Grups, so if you consider the Grups as an indication of the narrowing of the generation gap, ergo the author of the article thinks the narrowing of the generation gap is bad.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

I know I used ergo incorrectly there, I just wanted to use it.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

haha Nick, when I read your first post about annoying music, Ventalin was for real the first thing I thought of.

So when the kid gets older, instead of having a cool older sibling in college to turn her on to Pavement, say, she'll have us.

No way, he will not need you. he will spend all his time suspended in a viscous nutrient jelly that will download all the music in the world directly into his brain.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

(I wish I had a John around to talk for me whenever I needed one...

Me - blah blah blah blah Dumb Awesome blah blah blah I was entertained...
Other person - ?
Me - John?
John - "Seriously, though, I would like you to expand on that. For one, I don't really understand "cultural theory masturbation": did I miss the multiple references to Baudrillard and Deleuze? As for "little to no use to anyone in real life": "real life" as opposed to what? And since when did we measure cultural journalism by how practical it is? I do have misgivings as to how pronounced of a trend this actually is, or whether it's another case of hipster writers writing about other hipsters as if they represent the entire world (let it be remembered that this appeared in New York Magazine, however) -- but I do think that the larger point about the generation gap narrowing (perhaps as a result of a postmodern crisis in which there's a lack of innovation in art) is a good and interesting one."

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

Hmmmm, I didn't pick up on the negative tone you did, Nick, although I was skimming it this time.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

I totally just accidentally repasted your statement into a g-chat with a practical stranger, John!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

I only read the first page, but the tone seemed pretty mocking.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

I Jon-ed it up (and John-ed it up).

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

Read the whole thing when you get a chance, Nick.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe two people who have actually read the complete article recently should be having this discussion.

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

SOmeone link again pls.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not really into "whole things."

― n/a, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

Jeff: http://nymag.com/news/features/16529/

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

That's it, fifteen minutes of timeout! Go to your room and turn on the Merzbow!

That would have made me behave. And how.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

I think the tone is one of skepticism (which is one thing I like about the Didion omnibus I'm now reading), and the author explicitly implicates himself in this graf:

Oh, and there’s one more thing I learned, in answer to my opening questions: If being a Grup means being 35, and having a job, and using a messenger bag instead of a briefcase, and staying out too late too often, and owning more pairs of sneakers (eleven) than suits (one), and downloading a Hot Hot Heat song from iTunes because it was on a playlist titled “Saturday Errands,” and generally being uneasy and slightly confused about just what it means to be an adult in these modern times—in short, if it means living your life in fundamentally the same way that you did when you were, say, 22—then, let’s face it, I’m a Grup.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

I'll wear headphones on my pregnant belly and play Kid606 and the baby will come out all pissed off and twitching.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

My mom just emailed me to ask me a workers' comp question! I don't know why but that made me feel good.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

why can't social scientists just let people wear jeans and listen to music without it being a phenomenon?

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

you could snort rails of meth for the same effect jenny.

xxpost.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

why can't social scientists just let people wear jeans and listen to music without it being a phenomenon?

8080808080

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

Probably because my mom is a nurse with an MJ in healthcare law and is 1000000000x smarter than I am and I'm flattered that she thinks I would know something that she doesn't.

HAHA Kevin. Or do both and give birth to a SUPER VILLAIN.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

The NYTimes did a good job of inventing the word "metrosexual" a few years ago.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

HAHA Kevin. Or do both and give birth to a SUPER VILLAIN.


jenny's obstatrician: "i've never seen a baby born WITH a pacifier. and where'd he get that glowstick?"

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

besides, it's not about oldsters acting younger, it's about everyone's leisure time *still* increasing to the point where it overlaps work, and the availability of culture and information reaching the point that everyone has easy and instant access to most things. This trend will continue. It is not baffling, at least not the concept of it. Living in it can be a little spinny, but fer chrissakes, it's not because we're refusing to grow up or something. We do what's expected of us.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

can I just say that I absolutely adore tuna salad?

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

Everything is a phenomenon, people.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

What I mean is, OMG WHAT AM I GOING TO DO MY PARENTS DIDN'T ACT LIKE THIS AT MY AGE is some old, moldy-ass news, isn't it?

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

Que OTM, except calling that guy a scientist is like calling me a software developer.

John, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to explain myself. I will say that I believe people should be allowed to live as they please without some jerk trying to co-opt and "explain" their lifestyle for the purposes of an 8 page fluff piece to load up with references to prove how "with it" said jerk is.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

besides, it's not about oldsters acting younger, it's about everyone's leisure time *still* increasing to the point where it overlaps work, and the availability of culture and information reaching the point that everyone has easy and instant access to most things.

This is actually a really great point.

This trend will continue. It is not baffling, at least not the concept of it. Living in it can be a little spinny, but fer chrissakes, it's not because we're refusing to grow up or something. We do what's expected of us.

Is it not worthy of a magazine piece then?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

OMG WHAT AM I GOING TO DO MY PARENTS DIDN'T ACT LIKE THIS AT MY AGE

OTM

I keep imagining anything in caps on here on the back of a pair of sweatpants.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

I will say that I believe people should be allowed to live as they please without some jerk trying to co-opt and "explain" their lifestyle for the purposes of an 8 page fluff piece to load up with references to prove how "with it" said jerk is.

yep. ^^

Is it not worthy of a magazine piece then?


Nope. But seriously, c'mon. "Magazine piece?" It's NY Mag. It's one step up from People. You're smarter than that. Don't get sucked in by the tractor beam of hype.

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

Is it not worthy of a magazine piece then?

There's an interesting subject in there, maybe, but mainly I balked at all the names-of-bands dropping. Like, who is this guy, Cameron Crowe? Ok, ok, you're cool. Relax.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

Nobody's preventing anybody from living how they please! Where are you people getting this idea? I mean, if I didn't know you, I'd almost think that you're saying there are some aspects of life that are so sacrosanct that analyzing them is out of the question.

New York Magazine is one step up from People? OK, I mean, I only read it when I see an article linked -- have probably only thumbed through an actual print copy once or twice -- but David Edelstein is their film critic and I love him, whereas I don't give a shit about Leah Rozen.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

Edelstein is grebt, it's true.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't say anyone was preventing anyone from doing anything. Stop making shit up.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

FITE

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

These grups have a lot more money than I do.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, I'm not saying that this particular article is totally awesome and spot-on about everything. I think it has some definite holes, which Kenan has rightly identified. What I'm trying to defend is the practice of cultural/sociological journalism, which you all seem so opposed to as a matter of course, and to be honest, I'm kind of baffled by this attitude, which strikes me as anti-intellectual.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, I am imagining OTM on the ass of some sweatpants.

Also FITE.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

Grups find kids to be perfect little Mr. Potato Head versions of themselves

That would be the main reason I would want to have a kid!

― Jeff, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

I am imagining OTM on the ass of some sweatpants.

ok, I think I would wear those.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone has kids to make little mini-me's, don't they? I mean, isn't that kind of the underlying biological drive?

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

cultural/sociologial journalism really rubs me the wrong way, like i don't see the point? so maybe i should just shut up.

I also think Didion's writing is miles and miles above this person writing for NY Mag.

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

Dan, you said this:

I will say that I believe people should be allowed to live as they please without some jerk trying to co-opt and "explain" their lifestyle...

So people are living as they please without interference. Then someone interferes. Therefore, he prevents them from living as they please without interference.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

I keep imagining anything in caps on here on the back of a pair of sweatpants.

This did, and will likely continue to, make me rofl.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

i don't see the interference part of that equation?

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

cultural/sociologial journalism really rubs me the wrong way, like i don't see the point? so maybe i should just shut up.

I also think Didion's writing is miles and miles above this person writing for NY Mag.

I don't see how you can like Didion at all if cultural/sociological journalism rubs you the wrong way. That's kind of like the essence of most of her nonfiction.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

Ass text:

ROFL

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

What I'm trying to defend is the practice of cultural/sociological journalism, which you all seem so opposed to as a matter of course, and to be honest, I'm kind of baffled by this attitude, which strikes me as anti-intellectual.

I mean stop treating it as if it is some fucking revelation! Kids are different from their parents? Oh, really. The sky is blue? Hmm, hadn't thought of that. If there is anything anti-intellectual it is treating this kind of crap as anything more than some aging hipster trying to make deadline by writing about his own midlife crisis.

xpost: I have actual work to do so I'm shutting up about this.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

Whenever I read "grups" I think of the movie Metropolitan. "Urban Haute Bourgeoisie" or "uhb." Pronounced "uhb."

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

MW: "Interference" = "some jerk trying to co-opt and explain blah blah blah."

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

<ass>

LMAO

</ass>

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)


I mean stop treating it as if it is some fucking revelation! Kids are different from their parents? Oh, really. The sky is blue? Hmm, hadn't thought of that.

If all you got from the article is "kids are different from their parents," you should go back and re-read it, because you're totally missing the point. It's not just an unnuanced reading, it's close to the opposite of what he's saying.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

<ass>

LMAO

</ass>

Ok, that would be priceless on someone with a narrow little white ass.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

<ass>

RTFM

</ass>

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

I don't see how you can like Didion at all if cultural/sociological journalism rubs you the wrong way. That's kind of like the essence of most of her nonfiction.

I said her writing itself--her tone, her voice--is miles above the writing in NY Mag. Her tone, voice, style, lexicon. Her subjects? I'm up or down on. If writing is good enough, I can read about practically anything.

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

Who was it that said the asspants should said STOP LOOKING AT MY ASS?

Dan, did you learn anything at all promising about your job?

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

<ass>

TTYL

</ass>

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

<ass>

STFU

</ass>

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

Didion and Tom Wolfe aren't writing about marketing niches. Malcolm Gladwell does it in a way that seems more sociological than business-centered. (I haven't read this article, but most NY-based cultural criticism is about this.) I like cultural criticism, but I don't like cultural criticism that is about creating demographic stereotypes (maybe because I don't like simplifying people into Chads and Slackers and Yuppies any more than I like simplifying people into Women and Blacks and Jews).

An article about tracksuits, though -- I'd read that.

OTFM.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

I don't like cultural criticism that is about creating demographic stereotypes (maybe because I don't like simplifying people into Chads and Slackers and Yuppies any more than I like simplifying people into Women and Blacks and Jews).

Ahhhh yes, OTM, exactly, etc.

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

I will make nabisco some sweatpants that say OTFM on the butt.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

best part of my day today? jesus freak closed a drawer on her finger and she said (under her breath) "god damn it!"

NOT SUCH A BLESSED DAY NOW, EH CHURCHY?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

xposts

Grups drive like this

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

i would like some sweats with OTTO on them.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

Have I discussed how disgusting it is to see a woman with JUICY written on her ass? You just want to hand her a wet nap.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

uh, really? that's the first thing that comes to mind? huh.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.avatarrecords.com/nwh/xtras/album_straightouttadabutt.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.avatarrecords.com/nwh/xtras/album_p_u_s_s_why.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

(lots of beartraps) Even if the article itself is off-the-mark, the article's existence, and concomitant dissection of the article on blogs, message boards, etc. legitimates the trend, which is itself fascinating. Eric claimed upthread that the NYT helped "invent" the word "metrosexual," and so there are really two stories there: one, the changing gender attitudes of American men, and two, the remarkable traction with which the term gained favor with the public.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

somehow I don't think "grups" is going to catch on. It sounds stupid, and it's a star trek reference.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah. No one I know uses the word metrosexual except as a joke. It doesn't legitimate the trend if no one believes in it. I mean, grups?

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not a metrosexual, but I do wax my asshole.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

xxp You're right, it's not. "Yupster" seems more promising.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

Which would look better across somebody's ass?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

THIS IS MY ASS

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

I think you've misconstrued my point, though. I'm not claiming that something similar is going to happen with "grups" as what happened with "metrosexual" (although I do think that "metrosexual" is an incredibly useful term, even though it sounds kinda silly). I guess I'm just saying that there are interesting things about this kind of trend-reporting in general, one of which is the ability to legitimate a trend that barely exists. And by "legitimate" I don't mean create a whole demographic of people out of thin air, but to create an active discourse around it.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

^^oh okay, gotcha. I see now.

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

OK, the NY Times didn't invent the word, but here is the article that brought it to prominence and is exactly the sort of demographic "Meet Ken" profile I dislike so much.

I was a kid, but I remember that the first version of Yuppie was Yumpy, which meant Young Upwardly-Mobile Professional.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

I won't read the article or discus either the article or any phenomenon it might reference, just because I think it will irritate me. I'm happy to sit around unpacking certain topics to death, but pop-cultural studies is the least interesting possible topic for me, I think.

Wait, it's more than just not-interesting, I am actively REPELLED by micro-analyzing it becuase people's personal issues & self-definitions come into play way, way too much and it often feels like everyone is really just talking about him- or herSELF and not about an objective "phenomenon" at all, and I'm not interested in arguing with people who have their own images most at heart. Or being that person, either, which is a fine line, I find.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

Also, all this stuff reminds me of that "How To be A Preppy Handbook" when I was in grade school, a book I think was a joke? But now it seems to be something people study?

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, it's really easy to do, because the issues & questions being asked are about things that are so much IN DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW and in a lot of cases it's some demographic we belong to that's pushing them...so it's hard for it not to be about us...but I think it's easy to over-identify and it brings out the worst in people a lot of the time.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

And you know, I've actually had conversations about grups/yupsters/whatever with several groups of people, usually inspired by watching 30-somethings with strollers in Lincoln Square and Roscoe Village.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

why not just call them parents?

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

well, they could be kidnappers mr. que.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

I really do like the idea of a cultural history of something like tracksuits -- where they first appeared, who bought them originally and what movies/books/ad campaigns/designers made them popular with different demographics. But that's different than pigeonholing people.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracksuit

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

During this period tracksuits were manifactured from a mix of triacetate and polyester making them extremely shiny on the outside - ideal for breakdancing on smooth floors and yet fleecy on the inside ensuring comfort for the wearer.

Yeah, that's fascinating!

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

I never thought of the breakdancing connection. Or that it might be easier to conceal a gun.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

Someday we'll find it
The breakdancing connection
The poppers
The lockers
And me

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

I guess what's now dawning on me is that maybe people are against these sorts of articles because they themselves don't like being categorized, whereas I am forever wondering why I like the things I do, why I make the consumer choices I make, etc. -- even as I realize that I can never be pinned down satisfactorily.

Summing it all up with a nickname like "grup" or "soccer mom" or "bobo" can kind of dumb sometimes (it's mostly a marketing tactic), but I always enjoy seeing a sharp writer tackle the sociocultural phenomena in question. Even when David Brooks's smug rhetoric bothers me, I'm interested in what he's driving at in Bobos in Paradise, which is the way Baby Boomers have merged and reconciled their 60s ideals with their 80s- and 90s-developed wealth.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder if maybe the grups are partially a result of that generation's upbringing. The hippie parents wanted to do things differently than their own parents, so suddenly you have all this emphasis on the children, encouraging creativity and hopefulness in them. Now those sort of spoiled kids are grown up - or older anyway - and think their passions are the most important things in the world.

One thing I don't understand is how there can be enough cool jobs to go around, that there are that many people who can afford $200+ jeans without succumbing to the yuppie lifestyle instead (by which I mean standard upward-climbing office job).

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

I'd never heard of the Dres in Poland, either.

I think you're right, John. It's just the moral issue I have with stereotyping combined with a defensiveness from not wanting one detail of my life leading to some broader generalizaiton or judgement.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder if maybe the grups are partially a result of that generation's upbringing. The hippie parents wanted to do things differently than their own parents, so suddenly you have all this emphasis on the children, encouraging creativity and hopefulness in them. Now those sort of spoiled kids are grown up - or older anyway - and think their passions are the most important things in the world.

See! I think this is a really interesting point!

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

I dunno... I thought it was the 90's parents that were supposed to be so new-agey and alternative-0education-y and playing mozart to the unborn and shit. In which case those kids would still be kids. Anyway, I think it's a stereotype -- for every coddling hyper-sensitive parent, there are two who smack their kids around and ignore them most of the time. In any generation, I would imagine.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

combined with a defensiveness from not wanting one detail of my life leading to some broader generalizaiton or judgement.

I guess I dislike that, too, when other people (not me) do it. I guess I've never actually felt personally implicated in any of these articles, though. I think I left college right before David Brooks's "The Organization Kid" was printed in The Atlantic.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't like to encourage myself to focus on MYSELF that much -- not objecting to it in the sense of keeping my inner life going and examining my actions + motivations to try to consistently being a Laurel that I want to be, but that only takes so much introspection, and I don't consider, for instance, particular consumer choices to be in that hierarchy for me as much as my actions toward other people, or my emotional equilibrium, or my contributions in putting certain desirable things into the human stew. If that makes sense.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

I knew if I waited long enough, somebody else would say what I was thinking. Thanks, Laurel.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

It does make sense, L., that you aren't what you buy, and better to focus on your actions and feelings than whether shopping at a particular store makes you a particular kind of person.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

I don't consider, for instance, particular consumer choices to be in that hierarchy for me

Yes, but it's a genuinely interesting product of the 20th century that many, if not most, people in America *do* consider what they buy as an extension of their personality.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

In fact, that's how most things are sold!

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I really feel like NOTHING MAKES YOU A PARTICULAR KIND OF PERSON except what kind of person you are. I am not THE KIND OF PERSON who likes kung-fu movies any more than I'm THE KIND OF PERSON who has two X-chromosomes, at least not in the sense that the categorization carries any weight outside of its very narrow apparent truth. This is another problem with the identification issue.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

I am not my appalling white sneakers and jeans.

xp - I think that's a (intentional) side effect of capitalism. You have to get people emotionally invested in what they buy or else they'll select for practicality, quality, and repairability instead of trend/image, thus bringing the engine of capitalism to a grinding halt.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

It's probably something I thought more about on an introspective level when I was younger (like "oh no, I wish I was more 'indie'"), but I still find it interesting as an object of intellectual inquiry. The Stylus article I wrote about my participation in the ILM/blog/webzine hivemind was definitely inspired by that kind of musing.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)


Dan, did you learn anything at all promising about your job?

Sorry, I missed this earlier. Not really, just some background on why things happened the way they did but nothing positive about the future.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

i am, however the pants i'm wearing. ill-fitting, frayed at the ends, broken in, and every fibre black to the very core.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

I'm here way to late.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

I occasionally murder puppies, but that doesn't mean I'm the *kind* of person who murders puppies.

I think that's a (intentional) side effect of capitalism. You have to get people emotionally invested in what they buy or else they'll select for practicality, quality, and repairability instead of trend/image, thus bringing the engine of capitalism to a grinding halt.

Mostly otm, but I am not convinced that consumption based on abstract feelings is necessary in order to make industry and commerce necessary. It wasn't until after WWII that anyone even *thought* to sell anyone anything based on anything but practicality et al.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

I'm here way to late.

Haha, maybe it's better this way?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

It's probably something I thought more about on an introspective level when I was younger (like "oh no, I wish I was more 'indie'")

This might also be part of my knee-jerk distaste for this type of sociological classification/analysis. I spent an inordinate amount of my youth worrying about whether my style/attitudes/musical taste matched whatever sub-group I wanted to align myself with at the time, and looking back, I think that was a sad waste of energy. Not to mention self-defeating and possibly even psychologically bad for me. Now that I'm older and am more comfortable with all the outward aspects of myself, I resent any attempts to take people who organically share certain tastes with me and cram us all into one group and name us something. It belies the honest-to-god individuality that I finally achieved by ceasing to worry about where, how, and how well I fit in with an existing group.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

You're the type of guy that can't control your girl
You try to buy her love with diamonds and pearls
I'm the type of guy that shows up on the scene
And gets the seven digits, you know the routine
You're the type of guy that tells her, "Stay inside"
While you're steady frontin in your homeboy's ride
I'm the type of guy that comes when you leave
I'm doin your girlfriend, that's somethin you can't believe
Cause I'm that type of guy

You're the type of guy that gets suspicious
I'm the type of guy that says, "The puddin is delicious"
You're the type of guy that has no idea
That a sneaky, freaky brother's sneakin in from the rear
I'm the type of guy to eat it, when he won't
And lick you in the places that your boyfriend don't
You're the type of guy to try to call me a punk
Now knowin that your main girl's bitin my chunk
I'm the type of guy that loves a dedicated lady
Their boyfriends are borin, and I can drive em crazy
You're the type of guy to give her money to shop
She gave me a sweater _kiss_ thank you, sweetheart
I'm that type of guy


I'm the type of guy that picks her up from work early
Takes her to breakfast, lunch, dinner, and breakfast
You're the type of guy eatin a tv dinner
Talkin about... "Goddamn it, I'ma kill her"
I'm the type of guy to make her say, "Why you're illin, Bee?"
...You're the type of guy to say, "My lower back is killin me"
...Catch my drift?
You're the type of guy that likes to drink Olde English
I'm the type of guy to cold put on a pamper
You're the type of guy to say, "What you talkin bout?"
I'm the type of guy to leave my drawers in your hamper
I'm that type of guy

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

Post WWII was the cold war when American sought to define itself by an ideology that could stand in opposition to communism - individualism via consumerism ie modern capitalism.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

Can I say something off topic? (Answer: yes, I definitely can.)

LOST SEASON 2 SPOILERS AHEAD




I saw the season finale of Lost Season 2 (Live Together, Die Alone) and WOW DID I MISS A BUNCHA STUFF. The people in Antarctica calling Penny Widmore after Locke lets the computer go, the thing about the observation station people sending their observation logs through the pneumatic tube that leads to nowhere, and lots of et cetera. This will make further viewing more satisfying!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

When I was a kid (like 8 to 12) I was always bummed out that people liked things and had favorite things. I could never like anything much at all. I don't know if it was because I lived in a rural area, or didn't have cable, or something else, but I just couldn't develop any strong feelings about anything. Music, television, movies, books, radio, nothing would stick. It's not that I wanted to be like my peers, I wanted to have strong opinions and preferences.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

I spent an inordinate amount of my youth worrying about whether my style/attitudes/musical taste matched whatever sub-group I wanted to align myself with at the time, and looking back, I think that was a sad waste of energy.

some people never learn this... maybe that's what a "grup" really is. Someone who not only owns more sneakers than suits, but feels the need to point this out to others.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

I am quirky! I own more sneakers than suits! LOOK AT ME AND MY SNEAKERS!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

I dislike the idea of being reduced to a category or sub-group based on my interests and consumer choices, but at the same time, I think what I buy and what I like says LOTS about me and whoever else also buys and likes those things, and I enjoy reading cultural analyses derived from that premise.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

<ass>

LOOK AT ME AND MY SNEAKERS!

</ass>

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

wise man once say: you are not what you own

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

Well, that's a good symbiotic relationship, John. I'll keep on keeping on, somebody will write an article about a particular consumer taste or political affiliation that I and a number of other people have in common, and you can enjoy reading about it. :)

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

xpost OTM, put that on a sweatpant ass

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

wow, i am reading a positively HILARIOUS flame war that some metal dude started with my friend eric. it's painfully funny to read this shit.

Hey Bob,

Way to sidestep those questions and fold under a blowhard argument that you started. People like you are my carpet.

And if you want a blowjob, just ask.

Eric

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: I gave you my heart... and the Clap.
Date: Apr 24, 2007 12:16 PM


Dude, I didn't even read that whole diatribe, better things to do with my time. That song on our page is not the ONLY song we have, dip-shit. Unlike your band, we vary our sound.

"By the way, pussy -- I'm getting paid to write this right now."

Impressive. You can suck dick and type at the same time.

-Bob
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: The Busy Signals
Date: 24 Apr 2007, 01:41 PM


So you play prog-rock? Hm. Then enlighten me. Tell me what makes you guys a prog-rock band. Not even a good prog-rock band, but just a prog-rock band. Tell me what about the song on your MySpace page is prog. Come on, you simpering twat, let me hear it. I'm not asking for that much. Actually, fuggit -- tell me what makes you guys a metal band. What's your favorite NWOBHM group? What's your take on Sir Lord Baltimore? (These are rhetorical questions, of course, because you don't know shit.)

Your lack of knowledge is written all over your defeated crybaby face, your long-winded, ignorant diatribes that only you find to be interesting or humorous, and, yes, you got it, your fucking ridiculous band in which the drummer actually equates his gimmicky and childish ass-backwards drumming "technique" to HIS OWN PERSON ZEN GARDEN. Read that again: A ZEN GARDEN. Hysterical. If I walked out to Vernon Hills Lane Park Village Grove, I could toss one of your band's shitty and altogether ignored demo CDs about two feet and hit fifty more of you. But I don't have time to do that. I'm too busy having fun with my awful band while mealy-mouthed cocksuckers like you wait on the sidelines, wearing your ass up to your wrist like a worn baseball mitt, waiting for people to invite you to play at some shithole club in Chicago so you can try to use it as leverage for landing a diseased cunt in an even less impressive bar years later.

The day you're qualified to tell me how well anyone "plays punk" is the day you cease to be one of a million simple, bloated, docile and wholly unintimidating smarmy suburbanite retards who talks a lot, yet says and knows very little. The day someone whose idea of the natural lineage of r'n'r includes fucking PRIMUS lets me know how I'm doing in my band and I take it to heart, whooo, wow, holy shit. At that point, I'll gladly get aborted.

But I don't want you to get aborted. I want the opposite. I want you to procreate. I want you to meet a girl who's just as unimaginative and boring as you are, and I want you to have children, and I want you to sit in a campfire circle with your family, and I want you to play them a Rage Against the Machine CD and make the most obvious, safest social-political observations about George Bush and other surface-deep pop-politics, just waxing poetic about the good ol' days, when men knew that playing rock music was about over-processed digital half-stacks amps and PRS guitars, and adding the "edginess" of turntables, and wearing cargo pants, and trying to harness some sort of "chaotic" imagery when everything intrinsic to the music itself is beyond safe and predictable, and I want you to, more or less, bring more lackey shitheel motherfuckers into this world so that they can try to assert themselves and berate me and I can wipe their faces with my lily-white ass.

By the way, pussy -- I'm getting paid to write this right now.

Eric

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

http://movies.israel.net/fight/c44.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

I pointed this baby chair out to Nick yesterday in the window of a fancy kids boutique in our hood. I feel like it relates to the mysterious Grups.
http://www.grow-kids.com/fresco_orange.jpg

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

that is one rockin high chair. I should have a chair that cool.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

I pointed out that if you buy that chair you can't possibly live without this chair too, for the sake of the decore.
http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/evofurniture_1931_1480816

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

Vernon Hills Lane Park Village Grove

LOL

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah there's a fine line here between making thoughtful choices (ie buying "green") that you believe will contribute to a world you want to live in, overall, and coming to see that...branching tree of choices as an identification of its own.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

And then, OBVIOUSLY, someone needs to come along and design a kid-sized one too so you can both sit in your own little spheres listening to music.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

I want to know what prompted Eric's diatribe, otherwise he sounds like an asshole.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

And it's REALLY hard not to be sucked in when the groups become "people who are careful to make choices that contribute to a world they've thought about living in" and "people who consume in a way that I find detrimental to us all and don't appear to have thought about it at all". Altho I guess I'd have to put Mr Bungle fans in that latter category, so your mileage here may vary.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

I want to know what prompted Eric's diatribe, otherwise he sounds like an asshole.

this unsolicited email:

Dearest Busy Signals,

In my time thus far, I have seen many bands in Chicago and beyond, from the sublime to the horrendous. You, however fit into neither category. You, my friends fit into a third category best described as an aural holocaust. During your tone-deaf, off-kilter, why-the-Hell-even bother-tuning set, I learned a new definition of the word "pain." It felt the way I imagine being raped to death by a cactus must feel like. I'm sure Anne Frank enjoyed her final moments more than I enjoyed your concert.

Let me be very clear: You make me hate music. The fact that a band like yourselves can get shows and, God forbid, get paid for it, ceases my belief in a kind, just God. I would pray for mercy on your souls if I thought it was deserved. You've done to music what can best be described as Audio terrorism. I've never seen a band that made me want to inflict physical pain on them, and myself. The fact that you breathed the same smoky, stale air as I did makes me feel like less of a human being.

Usually when I speak to a shitty band, I suggest quitting music. You, on the other hand; should quit breathing. You should really consider offing yourselves before you procreate.

Hugs and kisses,
Bob and Curtis

here is his page address, this is funnier if you see the guys face..
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=9667117

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

What's wrong with Mr. Bungle fans? I've never actually heard them myself (although I've been wanting to hear California for a while, because I think I might like it), but most people I know that have been into them have been pretty decent dudes.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

hah. not me. they're total weirdos in my experience

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

Wait. Why is it signed both Bob & Curtis?

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

Running joke, John. I hate Mr Bungle due to an ex and his friends.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

by the way, he was one of the douches yelling "LEARN TO PLAY SOME CHORDS, FAGS" at screaming yellow zonkers (who were flat out amazing). i will be sad when colin moves to new haven because they are now my favorite band in chicago. i've seen them four or five times and half their set is brand new every time. really prolific, really good, and it will be a real shame if they wind up breaking up.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

Wait. Why is it signed both Bob & Curtis?


because apparently it took two retards to write that letter.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

oh, and they (SYZ) are playing for free on saturday at the bottle as part of the brian costello show with brian costello.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

Nice little shout out to Anne Frank in there...

― KitCat, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, nothing like comparing a pop music set at 3 in the morning to the final days of the third reich.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin: Opinion revised. Not an asshole in the slightest!

beartrap ... wait, does "learn to play some chords" mean "learn to play more than the three rudimentary chords you know" (which is a dumb thing to yell at a punk band) or "learn to play some chords and don't just play single-note lines or arpeggios" (which is a dumb thing to yell at anyone)?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

actually, they both sound like assholes, but one of them was begging for it.

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

That's the second time today I've read a random Nazi reference in a music-related comment. The first was in the comments to that Journey piece wherein the poster compared Journey fans to Germans under Hitler.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

http://a697.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/57/l_f615b057664d252eb3e2218a7e1835f0.jpg

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

Bob and Curtis' band really, really blows

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

i think metal dude was pissed off at colin's chaotic and spastic guitar sound.

Hard to place it. Repetitive and droney at moments, spidery guitar lines intersecting the racket, but then it's spazzy at the same time. It's like psych for people with ADD. But not really.

someone else said it better than i could.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

Nazis are so hot right now.

http://www.movievillains.com/images/mugatu.jpg

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

hey, if you were leaving work and going to the grocery store in 6 minutes what would you buy?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

oh, and then had to walk a mile home, so don't say you'd buy like an 80 lb side of beef or whatever.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

Best's kosher hot dogs, buns, veggie chili, veggie burgers, pancake sausage on stick, smoked turkey wing

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

chickpeas
lemon
garlic
parsely
tahini
cumin
pita bread

I assume you have a blender or food processor. I am a hummus addict lately.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

oooh hot dogs!

and shit, how could i forget hummus?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

ok, looking at my list i have more stuff than hands with which to carry it home. wish me luck.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

Herbed goat cheese. Good luck!!

― Laurel, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

Man, both guys in that flamewar come across like huge assholes. The initial e-mail was completely uncalled for (ignore the band if you hate them so much, duh) but his response was a little ridiculous too. Of course it might just be me knee-jerk reaction to people who hold use the blanket term "suburbanites" to represent all that is evil in the world. Such a stupid, not to mention lazy, argument in any kind of pissing match.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

Dan eats finger hummus.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

xpost olives

― kenan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

Whoa, typos galore.

me = my, obvs
nix that "hold" in the third sentence

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

I just remembered my crazy-ass dreams from last night. Why you marry me, unknown azn girl?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

Oh wow, my college house is for sale...

http://www.uparidx.com/idx/kewee/douglass/residential/propview.php?view=217647

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:12 (eighteen years ago)

It's like, damn. I took a lot of drugs in that house.

And $65K! You couldn't get a house that big here for less than what, $1.2M? Let alone with an actual yard... I think we paid $475 a month, split 4 ways, and even that was a little dear compared to some other places.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

Whoa, it always blows my mind to see prices for non-Chicago area houses after I've been sifting through condo listings.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

Four bedrooms, four of us pay our Chicago rent for a year and a half or so, we own the place. TELECOMMUTING BROS AND SISTERS.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:16 (eighteen years ago)

Sounds like a reality show that I would not watch.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:18 (eighteen years ago)

WHEN PEOPLE STOP BEING POLITE, AND START TELECOMMUTING

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:29 (eighteen years ago)

ok, time go home now

― Jordan, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:29 (eighteen years ago)

Haha I have cool friends who live at the other end of the block, and the local brewery is a 2 block stumble away. It'd be crazy to carry out EZ's idea but you guys would of course hate the winter.

― dan m, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:40 (eighteen years ago)

A stumbling distance brewery addresses one of my concerns about buying a house in a wee UP town.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:42 (eighteen years ago)

And yeah, I know not that wee but smaller than I'm looking for at this point in my life.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:43 (eighteen years ago)

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAH, I have a lot to tell you. It will be summed up thusly:

1) I don't -- and wouldn't -- recommend renting in RoPa or anywhere else in Chicago without seeing the neighborhood. I will not kick anyone's ass...yet.

2) Last night we went to the Hopleaf and I ate my first mussels.

oh



my



god

they were so good. I also ate their mac and stilton, which is a total steal for $5 and delicious to boot. I am open to eating mussels now and forever.

3) We had to expel a violent student today. It was scary.

4) If I didn't know that a grup was invented by some bored freelancing bozo in New York, I would think it was a variety of ugly, poorly designed particleboard bed sold by Ikea. And I would hate it for different reasons. But at least I would see its purpose and absolve its design sins on that basis. There is no mercy for the shithead who brought us "grups."

5) I don't want to ever EVER hear any of you discussing grups again! Am I making myself clear? NEVER! That is cause for an asskicking. I promise.

6) It's almost May 1 and I want to have a party but I am so busy that I could barf. I should be working right now but I had to take 1 hour off today before I get back to my crap.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:45 (eighteen years ago)

7) I am still actively sad that I am missing the Great Birthday-Graduation Party of 2007.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:46 (eighteen years ago)

8) Oh yeah! It's another year and again it's time for me to support the wearing of shorts. I like seeing men's legs in shorts.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

I hope you're proud of yourselves. Now go to your room.

Oh wait. You probably already have. It's almost 6pm, after all.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:50 (eighteen years ago)

Grup.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:52 (eighteen years ago)

WHAP

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:53 (eighteen years ago)

Yay for fabulous mussels! Did you dip the bread into the broth? That's my favorite part.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:56 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, indeed we did! It was a truly revelatory experience for me. I've been thinking about them allllll day. And the fries. Perfectly salted.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

I think that from now on when I read "grup" I will imagine a cute little frog making that noise.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 22:59 (eighteen years ago)

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/NIM/AF581~Frog-Posters.jpg

GRUP!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:00 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.bcps.org/offices/lis/models/lifecyc/images/frog.jpg

Dude, wait. Grup?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.ageconcern.org.uk/AgeConcern/Images/frog1.jpg

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

That frog refuses to be categorized that way.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

http://andreaplanet.ngi.it/image800/1_a_frog.jpg

Grup. Yup.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:02 (eighteen years ago)

the lovers, the dreamers and this little prince:
http://www.show.me.uk/dbimages/chunked_image/FrogonFinger.JPG

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:03 (eighteen years ago)

I like frogs.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:03 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.currumbin-sanctuary.org.au/graphics/popups/wildlife_Amphibians_splendid_frog.jpg

Soooo... Grup?

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:03 (eighteen years ago)

The wee frog is WEE!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:03 (eighteen years ago)

Grup.
http://www.santacruzpl.org/tutorials/graphics/frog2.jpg

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:04 (eighteen years ago)

That's like a frog's senior photo.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:05 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha, Kevin! The caption to photo is "Pet Frog A perfect baby gift ?"

http://www.gifttrap.com/images/Frog_2x2.jpg

xpost - LOL. Wise frog is wise!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:06 (eighteen years ago)

I kind of have a love/terror thing with frogs. All the frogs posted here are great, but some of the frogs that come up on a GIS of "frog" make me want to hide somewhere dry and sterile.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:08 (eighteen years ago)

Amanda - there is a thread here about the love of black licorice!

― Jenny, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:09 (eighteen years ago)

Dream interpretation request:
I had a dream last night that I had this plant growing inside my head, like in my sinuses. And I pulled it out through my nose and it was like the roots of those houseplants that you can grow in water, all spidery and disgusting. It even started to grow before my eyes and then it turned into a green bean.

I wonder if there is anything over there that hasn't been said. I do love black licorice.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:10 (eighteen years ago)

No one had mentioned aguardiente, so I did. I only like to post to threads like that when I actually have something to say aside from "yum i love that."

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:14 (eighteen years ago)

Ok well I guess that's my "fun" for today. Laterz.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

i made a huge fucking list, tore it out of my notebook and promptly lost/forgot it. i came home with toilet paper and stuff to make a salad. but no salad dressing. i suck.

but that said, i really love when people call me by pet names. even if it's people who are really bad for me it's still great. or even total strangers.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:25 (eighteen years ago)

I'm creating a custom style sheet for ILX. It's called "plain as fuck".

― Jeff, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 23:57 (eighteen years ago)

OK, going back to being called out by John today...

My problem with writing like that is not that it exists, I guess, but that some people take it so seriously. It's so subjective! "Yeah, I know this guy, he does _____________ and wears _______________ and listens to _____________ so he's a 'hurbier'." or something equally stupid-sounding.

To me the only reasonable place for this kind of writing is, then, an editorial column or a similar personal review. Which, in retrospect, this is. But, it comes with trappings of pure pulp infotainment, in this case the sidebars ticking off the necessary points of grupdom. The associated namedropping (as noted before) reminds me of a pfork review gone horribly awry. (And also, for some reason, of the story of that newsmag, Newsweek I think, that printed a list of grunge slang terms that were totally made up on the spot by some Sup Pop employee in an interview.)

Anyway, I've gone on far too long, but I think it really boils down to me preferring much more objective writing, especially about actual people doing actual things in real life. Anthro 4 life!

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 00:08 (eighteen years ago)

Yikes, that's long and ranty. No worries, John, just so's you know.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 00:08 (eighteen years ago)

OMG sisters!

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 00:09 (eighteen years ago)

One thing that this discussion has led me to discover is "subjective nonfiction". Which, judging only by those two words, could be the most horrifying literary concept I can imagine... maybe I should check out some Farley Mowat.

xpost: SQEEEEEEE

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 00:14 (eighteen years ago)

kevin, if you have the ingredients, make a simple vinaigrette. i had a salad for lunch today and was lamenting the store-bought mediocrity of the dressing--homemade is SO MUCH BETTER.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 00:51 (eighteen years ago)

i do not have the ingredients.

urelated, best headline of the day.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 00:54 (eighteen years ago)

Possibly of ever!

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 01:35 (eighteen years ago)

Dan, I feel you on your frustration with the article. I guess I feel like any trend-piece is necessarily stabbing in the dark for most of the time, because culture can't readily be quantified. But I appreciate the stabs because I think the subject matter is interesting enough to warrant analysis.

I also agree that a lot of pieces like this tend to be lazy and subjective. It'd be great to see more empirical data on trends, rather than a series of half-baked conclusions based on a single conversation with the reporter's boss's teenage daughter -- but again, this is hard to do with burgeoning cultural phenomena. Plus, as I said upthread, sometimes the fact that something feels like a trend, even when it lacks empirical proof, can be interesting in and of itself.

But yeah, stuff like this probably shouldn't be taken very seriously at all.

One thing that this discussion has led me to discover is "subjective nonfiction." Which, judging only by those two words, could be the most horrifying literary concept I can imagine...

What would you consider "subjective nonfiction"? Because what springs to mind most immediately when I hear that phrase is, like, memoirs or music reviews or pretty much anything written in the first-person that provides opinions and/or feelings.

Ha, and it also reminds me of when one of the profs in the English Dept. who wasn't my advisor read my senior thesis, which I had written as a form of "subjective" or "autobiographical" criticism (an idea I'd co-opted from various literary theorists I admired) and he said, "It's good, but I have to disagree with this characterization of Raymond Carver's work." And my advisor said, "See, but that's the beauty of writing autobiographical criticism, though, you can't really argue with John on anything, it's all just his perspective!" She was half-kidding -- I mean, it probably wouldn't have hurt to have done a more rigorous analysis, bearing the other prof's points in mind -- but since the larger point of the piece is what Carver meant to me, and what I got out of it, it ultimately wasn't as important as if I'd been writing a scholarly paper. I hope it was still an entertaining and insightful read, though.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 01:44 (eighteen years ago)

Your senior thesis was a blog entry!

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 01:49 (eighteen years ago)

everything sounds better when you add "with a burrito in pants".


i give you peace, my peace i give you.
with a burrito in pants.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 02:00 (eighteen years ago)

"Subjective nonfiction" came to me earlier this afternoon while thinking about the article, I don't know why. I googled it and found a bunch of stuff about college English comp. courses and some mentions of Farley Mowat, who I know my parents have read but I haven't.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 02:05 (eighteen years ago)

Your senior thesis was a blog entry!

A 120-page blog entry!

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 02:11 (eighteen years ago)

<ass>

WITH BURRITO IN PANTS

</ass>

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 02:14 (eighteen years ago)

Nice.

The <ass> tag is cracking me up.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 02:17 (eighteen years ago)

Thank god, because it's killing me, which immediately raises suspicions that I'm the only one who finds it funny.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 02:43 (eighteen years ago)

Test

-- Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 02:43 (1 hour ago)

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:13 (eighteen years ago)

A-ha!! I have been thinking that something was awry with the time stamps on nu-ILX!

I copied and pasted "-- Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 02:43 (1 hour ago)" which is what showed up as the last post when I checked this thread. Then I posted.

The same post's time stamp now reads "-- Jenny, Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:43 PM (1 hour ago)"

So only during a certain period of active posting and/or refreshing does the time stamp remain accurate.

Has anyone else noticed this?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:17 (eighteen years ago)

OK, so I was on the treadmill at my Yuppie gym watching The Shield (fantastic), and I realized the real problem I have with this kind of lifestyle article is that it's fucking pejorative. I've never met anyone who wants to be called a Trixie or a Metrosexual or a Yuppie.

Ice-T talks about gangstas and describes their lifestyle, but a gangsta might be OK calling himself a gangsta. These other labels, they're like epithets. And for marketing people to use epithets to describe a phenomenon...well, it just reminds me too much of the worst parts of ad-agency culture, where everyone is a bit jaded from creating stuff that they themselves aren't going to like but their target audience will.

P.S. Brew and View this week: Smokin' Aces and Black Snake Moan. Who's in?

<ass>ASS</ass>

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:18 (eighteen years ago)

Brew and View this week: Smokin' Aces and Black Snake Moan. Who's in?

Why do you hate us?

btw: Hot Fuzz is high-larious and clever as all hell. Go see it.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:25 (eighteen years ago)

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― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:27 (eighteen years ago)

P.S. Brew and View this week: Smokin' Aces and Black Snake Moan. Who's in?


Courtney and I were going to see BSM, but it is the 10:00 PM show, and she gets up at ASS:00 AM, so we skipped it. But yeh, I would go.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:29 (eighteen years ago)

0 Ass-hundred hours.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:30 (eighteen years ago)

WARNING: Unprocessed HTML characters detected.
Context:
<ass>

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:43 (eighteen years ago)

btw: Hot Fuzz is high-larious and clever as all hell. Go see it.

I am trying to get a certain lady to go asap.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:46 (eighteen years ago)

I'm just going back to comment on everything everyone said. It's because I'm waiting for my clothes to finish in the dryer.

These other labels, they're like epithets. And for marketing people to use epithets to describe a phenomenon...well, it just reminds me too much of the worst parts of ad-agency culture, where everyone is a bit jaded from creating stuff that they themselves aren't going to like but their target audience will.


OTM! I mentioned the article to M@tt tonight and the first thing comment he had was about identifying a target market.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:50 (eighteen years ago)


I am trying to get a certain lady to go asap.

oh my... I think I'm sleepy. I read this as "I am trying to get a certain lady to go to bed asap."

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:56 (eighteen years ago)

Not even in a sexy way, I just need to go to bed.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:56 (eighteen years ago)

Has anyone else noticed this?

It's on Britisher time until you log in, when it gets set to your time.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 06:08 (eighteen years ago)

This is a really annoying thing to say and I don't even want to talk about it but: All nonfiction is subjective.

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 12:23 (eighteen years ago)

In fact, I haven't really thought about it but I'll go ahead and say that objectivity doesn't exist, except as an abstract concept.

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 12:35 (eighteen years ago)

On a different note: Are we submitting anything to the ILX comp? Here are some options:
1) try and meet up soon (like this weekend?) and do more recording and hopefully get something good
2) submit one of the recordings we already made (I'm in favor of using the remix I did, but I am obviously biased)
3) say "fuck it" and people who want to submit their own projects can do so

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 12:38 (eighteen years ago)

Extra annoying thing to say, but I actually mean it: "subjective" is relative. There are other such concepts (eg, fairness, equality, cruelty) that mean 10 different things to 10 different people, but, to paraphrase George in WAoVW-- subjectivity/objectivity: we must carry on as though they were really different.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 12:46 (eighteen years ago)

Since everything that is ever said comes from the viewpoint of 1 person, however 1 person can work to expand the scope of their statement beyond the narrowest confines of their own understanding, in an attempt to acheive "objectivity." I think the result of such an honest effort deserves to be called "objectivity."

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

I don't want to talk about this either, but I can't seem to stop myself.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 12:53 (eighteen years ago)

Let me stop you.

STOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOP
STOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOP
pleaseSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOPSTOP

Not that I don't agree with you -- I do.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 12:59 (eighteen years ago)

I think we're saying almost the same thing anyways, just approaching it from different sides.

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:03 (eighteen years ago)

btw: Hot Fuzz is high-larious and clever as all hell. Go see it.

I am trying to get a certain lady to go asap.

-- dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:46 (8 hours ago)


me and a certain lady are going to see it tonight but i don't think i'll have as much fun as dan and his certain lady. :-(

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

dang, i wish you could edit posts because i now realize i should have said "me and an uncertain lady".

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

P.S. Brew and View this week: Smokin' Aces and Black Snake Moan. Who's in?

For my own sanity, and the sanity of my friends, no. I do not want to go see a movie where a religious man finds a gang raped and beaten woman on the side of the road and chains her to a radiator to cure her of her love of sex. Thanks, but no.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

Whoa, is that what that movie's about? Which one?

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

Yeh, Nick, I think we agree on our premise, but maybe not on the conclusions we draw. al;ekjgagiji

God I hate hearing/reading myself sometimes.

I'm going to listen to Amanda now STOPITSTOPITSTOPIT

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

Black Snake Moan

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

I want to see the movie before I make up my mind. Just because what Jenny mentioned happens to be what goes on in the movie, it could be presented in a million different ways. From the review I read in either the Reader or the Onion, the movie goes into how fucked up both What's-his-name's and What's-her-name's characters are.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

The first poster I saw had SLJ holding a panty-clad Christina whatserface at the end of a leash and my first thought was, "What could this be about to make the selection of that particular image for a movie poster okay?" And so I read a lot of reviews and yeah. She's a "nymphomaniac" and when her boyfriend goes into the army she goes crazy with her fuckwant and gets gang raped (which obviously is her fault, see, because she likes sex) and SLJ finds her and decides the best way to cure her of her demons (being raped was her fault/something she wanted to happen, remember) is to chain her like an animal to a radiator. Oh and he's a failed blues musician and she cures him of his inability to sing. I haven't been able to find out what happens to her, but I really don't think it matters.

This is brought to you by the same guy who made Hustle and Flow, the sympathetic portrait of a pimp trying to make it in the recording world.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

Don't really think it matters in the resolution of the movie, not that I don't think it matters to me. What happens to her in the end could make all the difference, but from what I've read, she kind of leaves the situation in about the same way she came into it.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

I heard Hustle and Flow was really good!

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

pimptrap

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

Whoa, killer commute this morning. The outbound Edens developed a monster pothole, probably 10-12 inches deep right in the center lane. There were EIGHT cars right after the pothole with flat/shredded front driver's side tires. I hit it myself, but luckily traffic had slowed enough that I didn't fuck up my tire. Still, sucky.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

Hustle and Flow was ok. Well, it was a mediocre and corny movie made better by a strong lead performance and some exciting rap performances/sequences. Also, Ludacris was in it.

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

Hm. That sounds awful, but -- and I don't even know if there's a "but" here, but -- well, I don't have a way to end this sentence. That sounds terrible.

It's hard out there for a pimp, tryin to get money for the rent.

On a daily basis, potholes scare me way more than pimps do.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

BSM sounds awful, I mean.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

I wish Christina Ricci would chain me to a radiator.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

Also, Ludacris was in it.


also, partly filmed in and around memphis, tn.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

Hustle and Flow got a lot of critical recognition. As you should well know, that doesn't mean it's exactly brimming with feminist sensibilities or even that's it's good. Any movie that lionizes a pimp is going to raise a few red flags for me. That said, I'd be willing to watch Hustle and Flow. I am not, however, willing to pay money in support of a movie in which a half naked woman, abused woman is chained to a radiator as a plot device.

xp - right. "Hard Out Here for a Pimp." Hookers, on the other hand, have it easy what with all the beatings and the rapes and the drug addiction and the homeless and the total lack of control over their own live and bodies. But pimps, pimps you should feel sorry for.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

Whoa, killer commute this morning.

from the western/290 blue line stop heading west to forest park my train passed THREE car accidents. the worst was just after california, looked like a roll over and the drivers door, hood and roof were all buckled and all the windows were shattered. and the sign for the police hq at 26/cali was destroyed. then there was another just east of cicero and a third just west of oak park ave.

good day to be on the train actually.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

Off to work. I hear traffic is awful on LSD so I am driving all the way down Western to 26th. Wish me luck.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

PS please not to post scary car accidents

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

But, but, but it's the Brew 'n' View.

I didn't think of seeing either of these two movies in Evanston at the multiplex.

Films I've seen at the Brew 'n' View: Con Air, Bean, Hollywood Homicide. I think that's it. I think these two films belong in the company of those three.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

The bus was the hottest it's ever been this morning, and not in a good way. It was stuffy and claustrophobic-freakout worthy.

I don't feel a need to see BSM. I do, however, want to see Hot Fuzz because Shawn of the Dead was a very fun movie.

I've never been to a Brew & View! I still want to eventually.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

cars are rubbish and for twats

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

jesse's contracted angloitis.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

Eh, I think I made my point. I'm not going to look askance at anybody for going to see BSM, but I like myself too much to subject me to something that I know is going to upset me.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

NOW! I will go see Hot Fuzz at the Brew n' View! That movie looks high-larious.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

Brew and View advice-- snag a table in the downstairs area. The balcony was tempting, what with the loftiness, but it's far away (from beer) and very dark and steep.

(dark+steep)*beer = Ouch

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

Eric, I also watched the Shield on the treadmill last night (part of it anyway). I hadn't seen it before and it seemed cool, but I dunno...I think the problem was that I'd read that Shield vs. the Wire thread so I was constantly comparing it to the Wire. It felt like the Wire without likeable characters (and more speed)?

many xposts

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

my angloitis comes from the "I don't love cars" thread. That was someone's repeated statement about cars.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:45 (eighteen years ago)

Admission is $5.00 for everyone
For the movies

Sorry no group rates...
(Senior Citizens go pound sand)

awesome.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

something keeps happening when i try to use the quote tag and it's pissing me off. it won't let me post a message.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, did I not tell any of you about the crazy car accident I saw on Sunday?

I was driving down Lake Shore Dr. with Courtney and traffic basically stopped, we couldn't see why. Cars ahead of me were getting out of the lane and then all of a sudden there is a completely smashed-up convertible in front of me, headlights pointing right at me, wipers still going. The other car was up ahead and there weren't really even any cops around, it must have just happened.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

Also I really want to see Hot Fuzz. And a bunch of other movies. Maybe I'll just take myself on a date tonight.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

So Best Buy had an awesome deal on a 500GB external hard drive this week so I picked one up. Seven hours of messing with it last night and nada, none of the three computers I hooked it up to would recognize it. Then come to find out that there are complaints all over the net about how horrible W3st3rn D1g1tal drives are. Of course Amazon had all five star reviews.

Any suggestions for affordable external drives?

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe I'll just take myself on a date tonight.


you know what this sounds like.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, I know how to treat a guy right (when he's me).

Truck accident covers Chicago Skyway with mozzarella
April 22, 2007 - The eastbound lanes of the Chicago Skyway were closed near the toll plaza Sunday morning because of a truck accident which has spilled a large quantity of cheese across the roadway.

Police say the accident split open the trailer of a semi hauling mozzarella and caused the cheese to spill out across the pavement. No one was reported injured in the crash, but emergency workers had to close off the lanes to clean up the mozzarella.
(Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:53 (eighteen years ago)

Jeff has a hueg Western Digital external hard drive. I don't know how much it cost, but it's saved our bacon a couple of times when his computer has gone tits up for one reason or another.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan, I'd only seen a few random episodes of The Shield but started watching this new season over the past few weeks. From what I've seen, I'd compare it more to The Departed than The Wire, as far as the suspense coming from the double-crossing and the characters' moral ambiguity.

And Jenny, I totally see where you're coming from.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

I've got a Maxtor (?) external that I got online for cheap (got the drive and the enclosure separately), 200 gigs, been working great for a few years.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

when i used to work with hard drives all the time the ones with the longest mtbf in my experience were seagate. western digital were always shit.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, this thing was $149 on sale, obviously too good to be true. I was considering exchanging it for another one to give it another try, but all the bad reviews I'm reading are giving me pause. One guy that worked for a computer store said they sold twelve of the WD MyBook drives and ten of them were returned within a week.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

I want to see all the movies this weekend.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

I was looking for one like the one we have, but I can't find a picture. This is a few years old, I think.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

quantum made some decent stuff for the home market, they were among the first to market NAS devices direct to home users.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

I have a Seagate HD. I got it at that huge computer store in the strip mall where the Cub used to be over by the Target near Western Ave. It was CHEAP at the time. The thing is, I hunted, and hunted, and hunted until I found a good GB:$$ ratio. I found a sign on the shelf with no HD, and then the guy hunted in backstock for a long time. It was a great deal.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe I'll get this one instead.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

MICROCENTER!!!!

xpost to jesse.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, Microcenter. That read like directions to pirate's treasure.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.knowledgerush.com/wiki_image/a/af/Nas.jpg

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

I don't get it.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

I have no interest in seeing Hustle and Flow, ever, and BSM looked good until I found out what it was about and that the glowing reviews were coming from the direction of that idiot man-child Richard Roeper. Oh, and I think Kevin Smith liked it, too. Well, just go ahead and give it the Palme D'Or!

And has anyone else noticed that Smokin Aces has resorted to using a corrosively negative review in the TV ads for the DVD? Desperate measures.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

i do not care, i wanna see hot fuzz! i loved shaun of the dead, IT SPOKE TO ME.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

A couple of shining Richard Roeper moments: the time he wrote a column about how the Dove billboards have got to go, because nobody wants to see fat chicks. And the time he wrote a column for Maxim extolling the virtues of being single, and included in the list things like not having to put away all your sports memorabilia, and, I quote, "Women. Plural."

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

xp!

idiot man-child Richard Roeper

Although he dislikes more movies than Roger Ebert, which I appreciate, as I think the Rog likes a lot of crap, I have to give you an OTM here. I was watching Ebert and Roeper one day and they reviewed some crap movie with Lindsey Lohan in it and he made some of the fucking creepiest statements about LL... he sounded like a perverted uncle waiting patiently for a chance to be alone with his blossoming niece. Also, he hated the Dove ads featuring "real beauty," not because of their inherent hypocrisies, but because he was offended by the site of women above a size 2 in their underwear.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

that dude sucks as both a reviewer and a columnist. he used to be good when he was on one of the local morning shows (it was either cbs or nbc) because he was never fully awake and would always let something inappropriate slip when one of the idiot hosts would make an idiot comment. it was just to early for him to humor them and it made for great morning tv. so of course they fired him.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

If only it had been Ebert & Royko at the movies.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

I miss Siskel!

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

Black Snake Moan may be horrible, but tell that to my teenage crush on C. Ricci.

Those Dove billboards were GREAT.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

Those Dove billboards were GREAT.

haha I didn't want to be the one who threw that into a discussion of how creepy Roeper is, but... yeah.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

awesome, my sister just sent me more books.

big chief elizabeth: the adventures and fate of the first english colonists in america and the john adams book by david mccullough. i love coming home and finding books in the mail. almost as good as records in the mail.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

Roeper is an idiot, QED.

Siskel wasn't a great critic, but he was a great foil for L'Ebert.

I kind of want to see Black Snake Moan, and in part because it does sound so exploitative: I'm curious to see how the film works that angle. It sounds more interesting to me at least than 2/3 of what comes to the multiplex.

Also I liked Hustle and Flow. It's kind of a cheesy, familiar story, but it's immensely entertaining. I just remembered, I went to see it with deej!

I have a Maxtor external hard drive, never given me any problems.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

Black Snake Moan may be horrible, but tell that to my teenage crush on C. Ricci.

8080808080808080

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

If you have a crush on a woman, why do you then want to see her gang raped and chained to a radiator? It seems more logical that if you have a crush on someone, you'd rather NOT her her abused and exploited, no?

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

Roeper freaking out about homoerotic Oshima samurai movie = klassik


Also, if you HAD a teen crush on Ricci, best time to let it go b4 u turn into Vincent Gallo.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

it would have been completely inappropriate for me to have a teenaged crush on christina ricci.


xpost- If you have a crush on a woman, why do you then want to see her gang raped and chained to a radiator?

you mean HER CHARACTER don't you?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

She's a celebrity. I find her attractive (or at least I used to before she got all skeletal) and compelling to watch. I don't have the same desire to protect her as I do if she was someone I could conceivably date in real life, especially not protecting her from a fictional scenario.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

It's going to be a fun day on the Chicago thread.

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

Whatever you do, don't answer my question about what we're going to do about the ILX comp.

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

For what it's worth, I'm one year older than Christina Ricci (b. February 12, 1980) and I think Jordan is one year younger than her.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

Nick, I've kind of lost interest in the ILX Comp. I liked jamming out with you guys -- and we should totally do it again sometime -- but I don't really care what happens to the recordings. And I'm at a wedding this weekend, anyway, so I can't be there for more rehearsal.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

I liked her in Addam's Family.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

Of course I mean her character.

I'll rephrase: If you have a crush on an actress, why do you want to see her play a character who is abused and imprisoned against her will?

I'm not asking anybody to justify wanting to see the movie. I'm just curious how having a crush on the actress playing the lead character, who is subjected to some serious brutality, plays into it.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

But mostly I just liked the soundtrack.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

If you have a crush on an actress, why do you want to see her play a character who is abused and imprisoned against her will?

so she can show a range as an actress?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

I understand where you're coming from, Jenny, but it totally reminds me of my Dad. He loses all respect for an actor/actress as soon as they plan a bad guy role.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

i mean, i like willem dafoe (though not in the same way as jordan and john like ms. ricci) but i have no problem watching him get hunted down like human quarry by tom skerritt (sp?) at the end of platoon. that last scene of the helicopter pulling away, leaving him there? fucking powerful and his character is made to suffer a pretty horrible fate.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

If you have a crush on an actress, why do you want to see her play a character who is abused and imprisoned against her will?

Oh, it's not that simple, and I think you know that. It's acting, and there are stories that have purpose that can involve such ugliness. But here, I get the impression that it's exploitative and offensive for it's own sake, as if the movie was specifically designed to push Jenny's buttons just for the sake of doing it. Which is a stupid, childish, and reactionary thing for a filmmaker to do.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

For what it's worth, Jenny, I don't think I would want to see Christina Ricci gang-raped in real life.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

Why are you using qualifiers there, John? ha ha

― KitCat, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

but you're still on the fence, eh john?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

Well, obviously I'm not going to say I have a desire to see her abused. But I haven't seen the movie so I don't know if it's handled well or if there's any artistic merit.

Maybe if she was being all sexy in some other movie that did not involved being chained to something I would see that instead, but since there's not, I might see this one.

(also I don't even know if I have a crush on her anymore, I haven't seen her in anything for years)

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

My crush on her started with The Ice Storm, built to a peak with Buffalo '66 and Pecker, and started to taper off around Sleepy Hollow.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

There's a new set of those Dove billboards in River North off of the Brown Line -- "pro-aging, not anti-aging" is the concept.

Ricci was good (though pathetic) in Monster.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

beartrap I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH QUALIFIERS.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

She was really good in the Ice Storm, but there was no attraction there. She played underage way too well.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

Well, she was 17.

The Ice Storm was sort of made for me: desperate suburban anomie, plus Christina Ricci and Katie Holmes.

I still have copies of Interview and Rolling Stone circa 1998-99, with Ricci on the cover, in my closet at home. This is how I learned many things about her, such as the fact that she smokes Parliaments because the recessed filter helps her not light the wrong end.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

xpost jordan admit it, you know you're a virgin killer

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

Oh you did not.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not judging CR's decision to appear in the movie, and I quite like her as an actress AND had a pretty solid crush on her myself around the Buffalo 66 era. Also, I am not suggesting in a bazillion years that John or Jordan want to see CR get ganged raped in real life or are pro-rape or pro-chaining women to radiators and I am honestly sorry if any of my comments suggested that. I think you are both ace dudes.

But here:

i mean, i like willem dafoe (though not in the same way as jordan and john like ms. ricci)

and here:

Maybe if she was being all sexy in some other movie that did not involved being chained to something I would see that instead,

The fact that BSM sexualizes violence against women makes having a crush on the actress who plays the abused woman part of the draw to the movie. Her character is portrayed as "being all sexy." That's pretty much the point I am trying to make here, that BSM makes this type of violence sexy, making people who are (or were) sexually attracted to the actress want to see it despite the violence.

And Kenan, make a mod request to take my last name off ILX, please. I have to go take a shower and go to class.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

...I just liked that it was $5 for two movies with good actors...

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

And I'm kind of curious about this too: I kind of want to see Black Snake Moan, and in part because it does sound so exploitative: I'm curious to see how the film works that angle.

Basically I desperately want the movie to redeem itself. So let me know, John.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

From the reviews I read, it sounded more about rehab than sex (albeit trashy as well).

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

That's pretty much the point I am trying to make here, that BSM makes this type of violence sexy

well that makes a lot more sense than what you said the first time. i can understand that.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

although, having not seen the movie, i don't know if bsm actually does this.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

NEWS FLASH: NONE OF US HAVE SEEN THIS MOVIE

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

xp - I was making a mistake that I find myself making a lot in conversations about controversial topics with others lately, and that's getting people to sort of find the point I'm trying to make via questions instead of just, you know, making the point I'm trying to make via statements. I blame law school - it's basically three years of training on how to manipulate people into making your point for you. That's not a nice way to treat people in a debate, I don't think. So I'm sorry about that.

And finally, and then I'm out of here, like I said: I don't want anybody to not go see it. I just hoping that when you do go see it, go in there looking critically at the way the movie glorifies violence and exploitation. If you see it and think, "Nope. Jenny was totally wrong. That was good. He did a good job," then that is fine!

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny, how do you feel about Lars Von Trier films, the majority of which (Breaking the Waves, Dancer in the Dark, Dogville, etc.) are about abusing women, if not physically then emotionally?

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

And Kenan, make a mod request to take my last name off ILX, please.

D'oh! I'm sorry. I'll do that now.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

It's definitely a valid point, Jenny. The movie might be indefensible, but I don't want to make that call without seeing it.

I think my crush was circa Buffalo '66/Pecker/Opposite of Sex too.

xpost

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny, how do you feel about Lars Von Trier films

I don't know about Jenny, but they almost always make me hate myself and want to die.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

And finally, and then I'm out of here, like I said: I don't want anybody to not go see it.

well i won't be going to see it because it just doesn't look interesting, it's got nothing to do with the sexual politics involved.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

What was the thread where we had this whole discussion like two weeks ago? Horseshoe was involved...

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

also, this cococoma record is REALLY HARD TO LISTEN TO without turning it up all the way. this is gonna be a killer record.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

It was a movie thread, but now I'm totally blanking on which movie it was.

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

I Spit on Your Grave?

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

Wasn't it a Tarantino/Grindhouse thread?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

Damn refresh...

Breaking the Waves made me cry harder than any movie I have ever seen before in my life. I saw it a long time ago, before I had the vocabulary to really articulate any objection to it based on feminist theory, so it's hard for me to say. I do know that I definitely don't ever want to see it again.

But I almost brought up that movie - I was going to say that you definitely don't hear people saying that they want to see Breaking the Waves because they have a crush on Emma Watson.

xp to Kenan - HAHA. Shit. You funny.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

Was it Grindhouse? I thought of that but it didn't seem right.

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

Ebert's review makes it sound worth seeing as a curiosity and as the tail end of a double feature.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, and the ILX comp: I like both those raw versions and Nick's remix.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

I still haven't seen Dancer in the Dark because I don't want to be that depressed by a movie, even though I really like Bjork.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

Emily Watson.

Having a crush on Emma Watson is still a little creepy, even though Ebert called her a "babe in training" and she looked sort of cute in that photo where she was drunk on Corona.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

Dancer in the Dark put a damper on my will to live. That said, the musical numbers and scenery were wonderful.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

Having a crush on Emma Watson is still a little creepy

Well, she just turned 17, so she's in that grey area. She's make a hell of a prom date.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

And the way she looked was way beyond compare.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

I am reading a book about foreign policy.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

i'm reading a foreign policy about books!

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:54 (eighteen years ago)

I'm reading some bullshit on an internet message board.

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

I will be finishing A Walk on the Wild Side today, then I'll be starting Neo-Bohemia.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

I'm reading a message on some bullshit!

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

I'm messaging shit on a reading bull!

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

I need something new to read.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

I just finished Never Let Me Go.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

It was good, but a really quick read.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

will be finishing A Walk on the Wild Side today

aw, poor ol' dove linkhorn.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

Haven't quite finished it yet! But I like how there's all these scenes that tie back into his short stories from Neon Wilderness. Kinda glad I read that one first now.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

well, i mean, it's algren. i don't think i'm giving anything away when i say he's not in for a happy ending.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

I finished World War Z, meh. Tonight I'll start on DFW 'A Supposedly Fun Thing...', Walk on the Wild Side, or the Paul Feig book that Courtney lent me.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

i didn't dig "a supposedly fun thing i'll never do again". is it a new paul feig book??!?!? i loved kick me and superstud. the latter, especially, was a painfully honest book.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

I figured so Kevin! Just trying to avoid any other spoilers.

I'm curious about World War Z, but I'm afriad it won't live up to what I want it to be.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

I don't understand why I seem to be constitutionally unable to read fiction.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

Unless it's in comic book form.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

The book I'm reading I borrowed from M@tt -- Second Chance by Zbigniew Brzezinski. I had to Google his name to get it right.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

Should I read Kick Me, Superstud, or neither?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

Supposedly Fun Thing is great. There's some subjective nonfiction for ya.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

xxpost And guess what he says in the opening chapter?!? After outlining the purpose of the book and the methods used to come to its conclusions: "This book is thus a subjective statement"! :D I don't mind it when people are honest about it, I guess.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

I figured so Kevin! Just trying to avoid any other spoilers.


no, i wouldn't do that. because even if you had finished it i would be very surprised if EVERYONE on the chilx thread has read it and maybe they'd WANT to read it at some point. unless some douchebag like me starts giving away the ending or something.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

sarah, kick me comes first chronologically. i'd start there. if you like it move on to superstud.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

Kick Me, Superstud

In a perfect world, this would be one book title.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

<ass>
KICK ME, SUPERSTUD
</ass>

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

It's Superstud.

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxpost

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

Oh that reminds me of the rofflelicious one I came up with yesterday in gchat with Jenny:

<ass>
MY BUTTHOLE
</ass>

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

oh man that was a hard book for me to read.


in other news i just begged off going to the movies at webster place tonight. i don't want to get caught in the rain because nothing will put me in a foul mood faster than going home alone all cold, wet, and miserable.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

World War Z = dude thought out the angles pretty well, but the actual writing annoys me a lot. Most people seem to like it though, so don't let me dissuade you.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

RE: Concerning rape/exploitation in film

Jenny and I have talked about this a lot and we do have slightly differing points of view, but here is my take on it. The question I ask is should such things ever be used in a movie and does it use only serve to perpetuate society’s already disrespectable view women’s sexuality?

The problem with this is that the films that do this run the gambit from horrible exploitation films, to films where it is more artfully (I use this, for lack of a better term, I shudder to call any sort of violent act as artfully) done. I really have no desire to see BSM, I think it falls more toward the exploitation end of the spectrum. However, I feel that I would be able to see a scantily clad CR in a BSM situation and remove her from that context and put her in a more appropriate situation for my fantasies. Do I think most people can do this? Hell, no. I can’t control if movies like this are made, but I can encourage people not to see them. That is all I am willing to do. I’m not really a good dissenter.

I do not think that rape/murder/violence/torture should be totally eliminated from movies. I don’t think they contribute much the perpetuation of the women’s sexuality stereotypes. In fact, I believe culture has only a small role in this, but that it can be reduced to something much more fundamental that culture has minimal effects on. I realize that a lot of people can’t remove culture from this equation, but I think in order to address the problem here, you should take a bottom-up approach. My approach is probably a pipedream, at least within my lifetime, but I think trying to censor all these images or change the publics perception in another way is just as much of pipedream. So no one wins and everyone blows up.

Back in the culture context, I think such images can be profound/moving/devastating in movies. Again, there is probably more crap out there than stuff that is “artfully” done, but I don’t know who would determine what is okay and what is not, as far as censorship goes. I thought movies like Monster, Irreversible (I know some of you disagree), Breaking the Waves, were well done, and they should definitely make more films that address such subjects in the future. You can’t hide it, the reality is that it does exist and I think that it should have representation in film.

Arguments against me you may use: Censorship of other taboos, such as pedophilia in film/media or something that a lot of people would consider worse than rape or murder. I can’t defend the censor/don’t censor it, but I do have mixed feelings, which I can’t articulate at this time.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

http://nosefrida.com/ordernow.html

― Jeff, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

THE SWEDES ARE LIGHTYAERS AHEAD OF US!

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

ok now why did you link to that? I am baffled.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

Damn! I really want to hotlink those pics of happy Swedish babies with tubes up their noses, but I can't.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

I do not think that rape/murder/violence/torture should be totally eliminated from movies. I don’t think they contribute much the perpetuation of the women’s sexuality stereotypes.

You can argue that... but what about porn?

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

http://nosefrida.com/images/babies.png

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

Ahaha thank you!

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not even going to touch that one kenan. It's definitely complicated, and not something I really want to discuss on internet message boards.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

i just noticed my first grey hair in my moustache. there are a lot of light colored ones in there but this one is definitely silver, not blonde.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

xpost Understandable.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/214/472572162_87d5a4798f.jpg

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse. completely off topic. you are right, there are no words to describe the mussels at tizi melloul. some inappropriate vocalizations, perhaps, but no words. yum.

― sisut, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

speaking of inappropriate vocalizations, i got a cheap thrill on my walk home yesterday. this girl was jogging down the sidewalk breathing heavily and making (almost cooing) these "uhhh, uhhh" sounds.

it was a great random moment on my walk home from jewel.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

reading that, i once again wish you could edit posts because now i realize you really had to be there.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

or be me.

neither of which anyone else was.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

I've been there.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

some jogger (female) flashed me and my cousin the other day as we drove up damen. it was delightfully random.

― sisut, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

girls are pretty.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

I think seeing the Woody Allen movie with C. Ricci would be creepier than seeing Sam Jackson sing to her.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

With the American Pie due? I saw that in a hotel, I actually liked it. It's not like she was doing Woody or anything.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Events/2080/JasonBiggs_Vespa_1402366_400.jpg

He's got a bit of the Jeff Koons going on here.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

As long as he's not doing her.

I can only think of a few movies that have really offended me. The remake of Cape Fear and Requiem for a Dream. That might be it.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

some jogger (female) flashed me and my cousin the other day as we drove up damen. it was delightfully random

dang! my encounter with the jogger was on damen too, just south of division. just past rainbo, actually.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

I just now got the mental image of K@tie and @pril rolling along Damen, hanging out the window throwing Mardi Gras beads and yelling "show us your tits" like a couple of frat boys. Weird!

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

Don't hate, Dan. That's what we like to do on Tuesdays.

― sisut, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

Tits Tuesdays

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

hey, what the hell are "soft bread crumbs" and how do they differ from regular bread crumbs and if i don't know the difference do you think it will matter to the meatloaf i'm gonna try to make?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

katieburger better be calling me next tuesday.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I want to know how that went down, actually. Was she just like, "I'm going to lift up my shirt for these girls now"? Was she smiling? WTF?

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

xposts I would say they are made with non-stale bread.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

Also... jogging braless? Is that doctor recommended?

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)

I have only this year discovered the joys of meatloaf.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

We were driving along Damen, woman was jogging toward us...looking like a typical jogger....then she lifted her shirt, showed us some lady parts, and continued jogging. the end.

― sisut, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

did she show them specifically to you?

I mean, I'm just curious as to what got into her. I have never heard of a woman deliberately exposing herself to strangers.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)

Kr and I watched Sherrybaby the other day. Not good. Pretty much every male character in the movie -- social-service employees, her own father -- wants to fuck Maggie Gyllenhaal, and whether she obliges or not (sometimes she initiates, sometimes she runs away), these scenes are always presented so abruptly that the nudity feels super-gratuitous and the film's attitude shallowly cynical.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)

xpost Well... I mean... not while jogging. :)

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

I had a woman flash me on Clark across the street from the Landmark. She was drunk and with her boyfriend and was trying to make a point of some kind.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

i saw some flashing during st. pat's day and i really wish i hadn't. it did lead to my friend lisa openly mocking the flasher while seated about 3 feet away from her. so that was fun.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

Soft breadcrumbs = specifically not stale or toasted, ie the bread should be fresh and pretty soft. One way of making this work out is to tear yr bread into chunks and soak it in a few tablespoons of milk, then squish it up.

XP I <3 Lisa.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

She deliberately flashed, and I'm pretty sure it was directed at us. She did not appear to be drunk and it was in the middle of the afternoon.

― sisut, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

thanks laurel. what kind of bread would you reccommend? 'cause i only have this 7 grain shit with oats.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

Oh so my answer didn't cut it, eh? u_u

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

I would guess that the 7 grain would work fine, I'm guessing it's in there to provide texture/consistency to the loaf.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

guess guess guess damn it

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

A Portugese roll, or white or wheat bread, or a hoagie bun, etc etc. Something white or wheat and y'know...bready. I think 7grain might be pushing it a little...? But you don't need a whole loaf, just one or two deli rolls should do it.

XP Hahah aww, Dan, sorry.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

i like a nice glaze on a meatloaf.

― sisut, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

Remake of Cape Fear was pretty offensive.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i'm going to try this brown sugar glaze thing.

i suppose i should taste this stuff before i bring it to my neighbors? it would be awful to poison them.

sorry dan, didn't see your response.

thanks laurel, i'll go with some sort of roll.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

No worries dude, I just wanted to use the emoticon.

And yeah, taste the stuff, that's how you know when it's right! Of course with something like a meat loaf it's kind of hard to test it out and be able to effect any meaningful change if it is not to your liking.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/43/119591234_1b67b4617c.jpg

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

I don't actually...like meatloaf. And what's that white stuff??

― Laurel, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

that beer thread is making me wanna say "fuck grocery shopping, grab some beers!"

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

Cheese, I hope!

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

The restaurant I used to work at had a meatloaf sandwich on the menu that was very popular, and the best part about it was the recipe came straight off an old Quaker Oats can!

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

i guess i'm glad i can't see images.

i'm not a huge fan of meatloaf either but i've never made one and want to do something new. i suppose i could make meatballs but i figured i could make some garlic mashed and some greenbeans and all mike would have to do would be to microwave a plate for him and the little woman. ease of use is a big factor in this.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

Where is beer thread?

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

Ha. My local deli has a pretty great meatloaf sandwich. I had one at the cafeteria last week too, but meatloaf + salami was a little much, even for me.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

I had tuna again. And a salad with mixed greens, broccoli, cukes, cherry tomatoes, avocado, cheddar cheese, blue cheese, caesar dressing, and crutons. And I said to myself, "This is really good."

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

From a txt message last night: "Dude, I am making rabbit & sausage gumbo right now"

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

ooohhhh

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

How long has it been since you listened to Heaven or Las Vegas?

Well, that's too long.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

Bit of a pretentious question, that.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

What I mean is, I don't know who made the record.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

oh sorry. Cocteau Twins.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

There I go assuming again. And you know, that makes an ass out of uma thurman.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

</ass>

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

<ass>

ASS U ME

</ass>

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

you know what band popped into my head last night? lush. probably haven't heard them in 12 years.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

<ass>WIPE</ass>

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)

<ass>( | )</ass>

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)

I always think of this line from Fresh Prince of Bel Air, something that the basketball coach says to Will: "You made an assumption. You know know what happens when you make an assumption? You look like an ass, and the ump will shun you."

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

<ass>

;_;

</ass>

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

^^^I think I'd wear those

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah I just scrolled by this in my library and didn't even realize it was in there. And I was like, omg warm fuzzies.

Lush! I wore the grooves out of Gala and Spooky back in college, and I had them on CD.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

maybe get some sweats and sew a length of white fabric in the seat to resemble TP?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

gala, that was good.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

<ass>

8======D

</ass>

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

Carlton: For a long time it gave me nightmares... witnessing an injustice like that... it's a constant reminder of just how unfair this world can be... I can still hear them taunting him... silly rabbit, tricks are for kids... I mean, WHY COULDN'T THEY JUST GIVE HIM SOME CEREAL?

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

Jazz: Making a baby truly is a blessed event.
Will: Don't you mean "Having a baby"?
Jazz: Trust me on this.

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, Jazz. You were wise beyond your years.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

SHE GETS HEAVY! (hold's too tight).

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

!!!!! coming to me i have the following bootlegs:

Graham Parsons – four different cds live and recorded stuff

Television – demos, CBGB’s ’75, studio stuff ’75 and First Farewell Show NYC ‘78

!!!!! cannae wait!

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

the television stuff was all i asked for but there's some muddy waters and dylan stuff too.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

^
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oo

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

(I am experimenting with emoticocks.)

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

William Shatner: [as Captain Kirk] What happened? The bridge looks so different. Spasers on spun. Ow, my tooth.
[to Will]
William Shatner: Bones, help me.
Will: Dammit Jim, I'm a black boy from Philly, not a doctor.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

Will: Girl, you look so good, I would marry your brother just to get in your family.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

^
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oo

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

how much longer 'til kenan sends spam along the lines of:

"i've noticed increase length and sturdiness in my emoticons"

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

Phillip Banks: Carlton, will you relax? My money makes money. We're rich!
Carlton: That's right, we are rich.
Will: If we're so rich...
[Camera pans up to reveal the studio lights]
Will: ...why we ain't go no ceiling?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

There are some pretty good meta jokes in there.

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

Word: Yeah, you remember Omar Phelps?
Carlton: Who's Omar Phelps?
Will: That's the dude who would be spinning me over his head in the opening credits.

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

:>

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

Aye- yie yie...

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

I downloaded a rip of a Wilderness 7" recently and I listened to it today, which led me to listen to their other two records. I want to be in a band where I can play drums like this dude.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

You mean slowly?

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

imperceptably. you can just sit back there and smoke cigarettes and sip a pint and maybe read the paper or something.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

When the FFs break up, I am going to form Vice President, which will consist of two drummers, four guitarists, and a horn section. It will play instrumental stoner rock. This is incentive for FF to never break up.

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

that actually sounds like an awesome idea nick.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

but then again i have remarkably shitty taste so... yeah.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

stoners don't like horns.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

(I have no idea what that is supposed to mean, except that I like reinforce non-existent stereotypes.)

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

Cat people have less body hair than dog people.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

Jews love pleated pants.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

I am the counterexample to that stereotype.

xpost, and that one

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

the exception that proves the rule!

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

Black people hate bay windows.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

You mean slowly?

Nope

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

I mean precise, cascading fills, off-kilter patterns, and generally anything that is not a boring, tired, 4/4 backbeat while still maintaining a high enough level of restraint to avoid D@m0n Ch3 land.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

Workers get lezzy when they are not supervised.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

When they are not supervised, workers get lezzy.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

I want to work where you work.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

Did you hear about the massive immigration raid at the mini-mall?

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

Yes! At first I thought it was going to be the DISCOUNT MEGA MALL down the street from my place, but then they said it was in Little Village.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

That is an actual question. One of my students was there and she was telling me all about it. She said that she saw a bunch of dudes in green suits with giant guns jump over the fence behind the mall and then they stormed the place.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

We have a mega mall too! I love those places.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

Did you hear about the massive immigration raid at the mini-mall?


not an immigration raid, it was a forgery raid. 22 were arrested for forging immigration documents.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

Oh right, BUT my student said that before the media got there they were grabbing everyone and requiring to see a valid photo ID.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

I dunno. Either way it sounded scary.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

yeah it's one of the things police do when securing a crime scene. it's happened to me.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

thank you, captain smartass. i wasn't aware of that.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

General feedback seems to be that it was a forgery raid meant to intimidate the bejeezus out of everyone in the neighborhood. There was no clear reason why these people couldn't have been arrested at their homes. Also, jumping fences with giant guns?....perhaps a little bit of overkill for forgeries...did they have giant guns when they went after Lay and Skilling?

― sisut, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

There was no clear reason why these people couldn't have been arrested at their homes

except that it's safer and easier to coordinate one raid rather than 22 seperate ones?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry I mentioned it.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

I suppose. But I think the likelihood that it wasn't a calculated effort to scare and intimidate people is slim.

― sisut, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

i think more likely is it was a calculated effort to arrest as many forgers and counterfitters as possible. i mean, why wait until they split up when you have them all in one place?

and i don't doubt there was an effort to scare people, fear is a great motivator to obey the law.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

I believe their contention was they the police were trying to scare them out of a planned May 1 protest, right?

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2007/04/25/federal_raid_triggers_chicago_protest/

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

according to neighborhood activists who surely have no agenda of their own in this.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

wow, good money in counterfeit social security cards, that ring made $2.5M if the feds are to be believed.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

I should get them to counterfeit me up one, the last time I dragged it out it almost decomposed right there in my hand.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin, I wonder if you're playing devil's advocate just to keep us from automatically assuming that the cops are in the wrong. We had this same fite when they shut down Boston because of a Lite Brite.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

kenan, pretty much. who else is gonna take this position?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

http://members.tripod.com/Tiny_dancer/samflag.jpg

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

;)

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

I LOVE SAM!!!

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

See?

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

also, i have a new desktop wallpaper.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

That is an awesome pic, for sure.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

Who will speak for the police?!

http://www.hbo.com/thewire/img/episodeguide/season02/ep14_mcnulty_on_boat.jpg

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, where's his bottle of booze?

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha

― KitCat, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

Hi dere Jimmy.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

he's on duty, duh

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

i just found a 7" i've been looking for forever and it's only $126.50


;_;

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

McNulty got all rapey in 300. I don't think I can trust him anymore.

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO TRUST YOU, MCNULTY?

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

i don't know what a mcnulty is.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

You could NEVER trust him! Especially if you're a woman and he's knocking on your door at 3am.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

Holy shit, what band that I've never heard of put that one out, Kevin?

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

actually, i'm sure you've heard it dan but it's not important.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

xxpost They're the ones who let the bastard in.

I love that exchange where he asks the prosecutor lady, in so many words, if it was good for her, and she says, "Like you care!"

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

What the fuck did he do?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

I love the scene where he and Kima are in the hotel room and he just kinda puts it out there. AWKWARD.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah. He's trouble with a capital T and that rhymes with P and that stands for police. "natural po-lice"

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

But I still liked him. He has Heart of Gold(TM).

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

I used the past tense there only because I haven't seen beyond season 3 and I feel like the show is over. Until season 4 comes out.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

1) I am not a stoner
2) I love horns, and I want more bands to incorporate them

The general idea is that all four guitarists and all the horns would only play single notes, which combine into chords.

― n/a, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

) I love horns, and I want more bands to incorporate them

2x

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

Who was that was talking about the Getatchew Mekuria/the Ex collaboration? Because that description sounds an awful lot like that record.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, who's alderman now in Rogers Park?

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

And is Jarvis still going to smell like pee?

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-electionmap070131-rdhtml,1,7578280.htmlstory?ctrack=1&cset=true

― KitCat, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

THAT WAS ME TALKING ABOUT THAT RECORD. We got it and it's AWESOME.

Joe M00re, the incumbent, won by less than 1%. He insulted his opponent's manhood for requesting a recount.

Jarvis smells more like pee than ever before.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

...and will continue to do so as the weather warms up, I'm guessing.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

Doesn't anyone want to jibjab about pee, aldermanic manhood or guitars-n-horns?

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

I am in awe of the Kuma's burgers pictured here: http://chicagoburgerproject.blogspot.com/ !

horns > guitars

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

I've been thinking about going to Kuma's for a while, it's not far from my house.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

Whoa that shit looks good. I is eating a cucumber. It's alright, but it's not a fry-burger.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

I don't even know how I would start eating that bitch.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

I have to run an errand in Andersonville, so I'm getting me some falafel at Taste of Lebanon.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

xpost Gently at first.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

Step one: dislocate jaw

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.dormwars.com/thumbs/460x340/372.jpg

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

I like the pile of pickles on top.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

Prediction: that turns into goatse before long

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

Pickles were never a major part of women's headwear.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

(the pic, I mean)

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

http://evany.diaryland.com/images/hamburgercakebig.jpg

― KitCat, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.sweetfactory.com/store/images/40126.jpg

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

burgertime.jpg

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

http://bigpicture.typepad.com/writing/images/big_burger_2.png

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

Kuma's Corner finished 10th in Restaurant Club balloting this year. That was mostly on the strength of one person's #2 vote, but everyone I talked to that went there had nothing but great things to say about it.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

she doesn't look near enthusiastic enough

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

And apparently all their burgers are named after metal bands.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

Fried pickles
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/69/219739766_2bc8f573b5.jpg?v=0

― KitCat, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

woah

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

Best Burgers In The City
* Choice of 1/2 Lb. Black Angus Burger, Chicken Breast, Garden Burger or Chicken Tenders. * served with Fries or Chips. Substitute a House Salad or Caesar Salad for $2. all Burgers served On a Pretzel Roll

" Our Famous Kuma Burger" bacon, cheddar, fried egg
10.00

Kaijo bacon, bleu cheese, frizzled onions
10.00

Black Sabbath blackening spice, chili, pepper jack, red onion
10.00

Yob smoked gouda, bacon, roasted red peppers, roasted garlic mayo
10.00

Iron Maiden avocado, cherry peppers, pepper jack, chipotle mayo
10.00

Slayer piles of fries topped with a 1/2 lb. black angus burger, chili, cherry peppers, andouille, onions, jack cheese
10.00

Neurosis cheddar, swiss, sauteed mushrooms, horseradish mayo
10.00

Metallica buffalo sauce, bacon, bleu cheese dressing
10.00

Melvins fresh basil, prosciutto, mozzarella, tomato, onion
10.00

Clutch cheddar, swiss, jack, smoked gouda
10.00

Mastodon BBQ sauce, cheddar, bacon, frizzled onions
10.00

Led Zeppelin pulled pork, bacon, cheddar, pickles
10.00

Judas Priest bacon, bleu cheese dressing with apples, walnuts and dried cranberries
10.00

Motorhead goat cheese, kalamata olives, oregano, tzatziki, onion, tomato
10.00

Mayhem sliced jalapenos, pancetta, pepper jack, giardinera mayo
10.00

Dark Throne chipotle pepper, goat cheese, fresh pico de gallo
10.00

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

Mmm, I want to try the Motorhead. Or the Neurosis.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

(I have not heard of two of those bands)

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

Pretzel roll? Say no more.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

Yob and Kaijo?

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

yeah those burgers sound pants-shittingly good

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, the Slayer is a burger with sausage on it?

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

I want to try the Clutch. It reminds me of the Ultimate Cheeseburger at Jack in the Box, back down south. Two meat patties, four kinds of cheese, mayo. That's it. 2700 calories.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

no wait... THREE meat patties.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

There is another question here, that being whether Clutch, the Melvins, and Led Zeppelin are actually metal. I am inclined to say no.

― dan m, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

Yob and Kaijo?

Exactly.

Wait, the Slayer is a burger with sausage on it?

No, the Slayer is a pile of fries with a burger with a sausage on it on it!

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

Mayhem sliced jalapenos, pancetta, pepper jack, giardinera mayo

COME ON!

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

I just realized something:

Black Snake Moan = BSM = Bondage/S&M

On purpose??

― Jesse, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 22:46 (eighteen years ago)

ok, my beef stew is in the crockpot. i don't think i screwed it up too badly except for accidentally starting to sautee the potatoes instead of the onions. but i realized what i was doing almost immediately and got the potatoes out of there. but i'd already thrown the onion in the pot so not all of them will be sauteed. i'll remember that for next time. i should probably turn off the music and focus on the food instead of the singing and dancing part of the meal making.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 01:17 (eighteen years ago)

Dude, once something is in the crockpot you can sing and dance (and sleep) all you want for the next 8 hours. The crockpot does all the work for you.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 02:45 (eighteen years ago)

I love my crockpot soo much. Especially when I come home and there's fresh potato soup just for me.

― jocelyn, Thursday, 26 April 2007 03:28 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, I actually typed out "BSM, more like BDSM, amirite?" earlier today, but then deleted it.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 05:39 (eighteen years ago)

Courtney, Patty, and I hung out tonight. The maybe-gay bartender at the Dr|f7ww00d (looks like Jake Gyllllenhaaal, is so fucking kind and friendly, gives free drinks, just got a haircut) is actually probably straight.

He's probably straight, but definitely ambiguous. Really, the fact that I have such a particularly strong crush on him means that he is straight. Usually my crushes are str8 boys who I wish could be mine. Blah.

Anyway, str8 or gay, he's my template for Jesse's Boy.

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 05:47 (eighteen years ago)

OTM JMC

BSMTRAP

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 05:48 (eighteen years ago)

Courtney is to fly out of o'hare tomorrow at Oh Anus hundredd, and she had my love at first sight got her drunk, so who knows if she will make the Steeple Chase or whatever it is that is taking place this weekend in Charlotte.

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 05:51 (eighteen years ago)

Is she going to a horsey event? So Southern.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 05:56 (eighteen years ago)

By the way, I think the purpose of those pickles on top of the burger is to establish a sense of scale.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 05:57 (eighteen years ago)

i was with the four best looking women in the bar tonight and it still sucked. that should tell you a lot about the shit-hole dive i was in. to quote stiff little fingers; gotta, gotta get away-ayy-ay.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 06:22 (eighteen years ago)

oh, also, i had to call 911 tonight. weirdness at ashland & fullerton. intersexual fisticuffs in the intersection.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 06:27 (eighteen years ago)

Fried pickles are good.

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 12:47 (eighteen years ago)

Had a disappointing experience last night - we spontaneously decided to drive down to the Harold Washington library and come back before Lost started. Took the expressway, got down there in 10 minutes, no problem, only to spend 20 minutes driving around and around looking for a space before giving up and driving back to our hood (and the lesser Wicker Park/Bucktown library). Was it dumb of me to think I'd be able to find a parking space in the south loop at 7:30 PM on a Wednesday? Guess so.

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 12:49 (eighteen years ago)

You should be able to get a pay one pretty easy.

― Jeff, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

Parking around HWL.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, but where were you at 7:30 last night, when I needed you?

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

so who knows if she will make the Steeple Chase or whatever it is that is taking place this weekend in Charlotte.

Uh oh.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

The more you drive, the less intelligent you are.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

Guys everything in my office is packed, including like my TAPE DISPENSER and all that's left is some books. This is NUTS!

― Laurel, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

OH NO FIRED

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

Shit, then I must be really fucking stupid.

I just think 93% of drivers have no fucking clue how to handle anything resembling damp roads.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

my office got packed (by me) in one day. less than one day.

infact there are still two boxes of shit under my desk that i never unpacked.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

oh, steak burrito heartburn.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

Last night the only food left in the house was some noodles, 3 yr white cheddar, and a can of tomatoes, so obviously I made baked mac & cheese.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

i made beef stew. my house smelled like a big batch of awesome when i got home this morning.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

Is beef stew what happens to failed meatloaf?

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

no, my neighbor's still weren't home so i decided i'd wait until tonight to do most of the cooking. beef stew always tastes better the second day anyway so i made that last night. i need to get some french bread from the bakery today.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

What happens to a meatloaf deferred?

Does it dry up
like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore--
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over--
like a syrupy sweet?

Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.

Or does it explode?

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

if I succeed in getting one Chicagoan to see the Iranian feminist soccerfan movie @ Music Box, hollah.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

Iranian feminist soccerfan movie

At the risk of sounding like a rube, I think I can wait for video on this one.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

I just think 93% of drivers have no fucking clue how to handle anything resembling damp roads.

-- jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:26 AM (14 minutes ago)

OTM. Also, drivers of Evanston, you don't need to come to a complete stop before making a turn, by the way.

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

Have you ever been anywhere where all the people say, "We have great drivers around here. The people in this place, they know how to drive. Boy, I tell you whut."

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

NO! You know why? Because nobody knows how to drive but YOU.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

</bad standup>

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

Morbs that movie sounds awesome, I wd totally see it.

― Laurel, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

Have you ever been anywhere where all the people say, "We have great drivers around here. The people in this place, they know how to drive. Boy, I tell you whut."


yes. portland, oregon. it freaked me the fuck out.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

that sounds like a nice place to be.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

It never occurs to me that other people are any better or worse at driving than I am. When people do stupid things on the road, I usually think, "Well, I've been there, too."

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

xxpost That's about as common, I guess, as people saying that the tap water is delicious. Which I think I can say about Chicago tap water.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

I remember some horrible drivers in Portland!

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

Seattle drivers seemed to be pretty good, maybe a little slow, but pretty safe for the most part.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

I think tap water is delicious. Fuck that Brita shit.

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

ugh, the pipes in my apartment are so old the tap water is gross. but back to the driving thing it was weird, people yielded at yield signs, came to stops at stop signs, actually let me merge when getting on the highway instead of speeding up to the bumper of the car in front of them then slamming on their brakes. growing up in boston then moving to chicago left me completely unprepared for that kind of thing.


xpost- jordan they've all either been relocated to seattle or taken to the woods and shot.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

Milwaukee tap water - awesome
Chicago tap water - doesn't bother me
Madison tap water - gross, I've never been able to drink it
West Bend, WI tap water - sulpherlicious

xpost that makes sense

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

i hear there's a town outside of fresno where champagne flows from the municipal taps. the name of that town is el dorado.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

I guess I forgot to sample the tap water during my one weekend in Milwaukee, but then I missed the Clown Parade too.

Alas Laurel, Offside is gone from NY already. I'm just trying to get jaymc & his gf to watch something besides The OC.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

i hear there's a town outside of fresno where champagne flows from the municipal taps. the name of that town is el dorado.

That sounds like a monkey's paw wish gone bad.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

"SO... THIRSTY..."

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

:)

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

When does Vict0ry's Banner reopen?

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, apparently we had a bomb threat here a couple days ago, but they didn't tell anyone so the police could track down and arrest the dude. It was an out-of-town guy who got turned down for a job. :/

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

I'm just trying to get jaymc & his gf to watch something besides The OC.

Haha! If it makes you feel better, Morbs, she attended two screenings of the Chicago Latino Film Festival last week.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

the OC sucks you should watch The Wire like the rest of us but OH I forgot shows like that make your pussy hurt. Ok, stick with the OC then, cause you're a nice lady and I don't want to hurt your feelings.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

</schoolyard taunt>

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

Huh.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

Kenan, did someone piss in your cornflakes this morning?

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

:)

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9712490-7.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=NewsBlog

― Jeff, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

dude, you never want to buy the first generation of a new storage capacity or form factor of hdd.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of drives, I returned the shitty W3st3rn D1g1tal one last night and bought a 500GB S3agate instead. Worked like a dream.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 575 for "blogga please". (0.07 seconds)

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

i caught a glimpse of myself in the mirror for the first time today and goddamn it! this is as good as i can look (except i need a shave). i wish i had known this when i left my house. for some reason there were three really attractive women on the bus today which is about 3 more than i see on the bus in a normal week.

OPPORTUNITY LOST.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

jon are you the one who lives on oakley or is that deej? or should i be asking john this?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

Posting a link does not indicate that I am buying it.

― Jeff, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

that was more of a general comment for anyone. i used the royal dude there.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

I just want a terrabyte ipod.

― Jeff, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

i'm waiting for the petabytes to come out.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

if i can't have not only every song ever recorded but every sound ever recorded then what's the point, y'know?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

No kidding. Suppose I want to hear a storm rolling in over the Tetons? WHAT THEN?

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

Let me go on like a meatloaf in the sun.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

I'm on Augusta, not sure where deej is.

(xpost)

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

lol @ "the royal dude"

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

2x

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

I see "terrabyte ipod" and I think of the computer built to answer the ultimate question.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

Sounds like a dinosaur.

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

The dreaded terrabyteipod.

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.qwantz.com/comics/comic2-1015.png

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

i am not going to read that

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

Those dino comics make me high.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

seriously, the best thing i've done all day is pound a bottle of pineapple-orange juice when i first got to work. i had to go find something in the files downstairs before i even sat at my desk and it took me a half hour to find. luckily there's a refrigerator down there that is usually stocked with stuff for meetings.

my gin-induced hangover was gone by the time i got back upstairs with the files i was looking for.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

That sounds yummy.




The gin, I mean.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

orange pineapple juice is a reason to believe in god

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:54 (eighteen years ago)

Re dino comics: Needs more TOMBOT.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

the gin was barely there. they use double highball glasses at liars club but only put in a regular amount of gin. what you wind up with is a very large but very week drink. i wound up having 3 before i watched the bartender make one and realized it wasn't a weak pour, it was just a big glass.

but then i got a burrito and everything was fine. oh, and there was a weird fight at ashland and fullerton where this woman started pounding on a car and screaming. then she tore open the drivers door and the driver got out and pushed her then the chick's friends came running down fullerton and started kicking the car (why kick a fucking steel automobile?) and pounding on the windows. then some more dudes showed up and cars started peeling out and there was a lot of screaming but i couldn't understand any of it.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

kewl

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

no, really not. i called the cops. the first time i've ever called the cops i think.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

i mean, big dudes pushing around women at 1 a.m. in the middle of the street just isn't cool.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

Man, it's been a long time since I've been to Liars club.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

oh i missed that it was a man shoving a woman... i though it was just a crazy bitchfight.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

mango oranch peach juice

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

Liars Club! I keep meaning to go back there. I had a great time the one time I was there, in October 2003. I was sort of new to the idea of "big popular songs are super-fun to dance to!", though.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

Now that I've iPod-J'd a couple weddings, the novelty has slightly worn off.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

John, send me some of yer wedding playlists, please. No reason.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

THERE IS NO REASON TO EVER GO TO LIAR'S CLUB. seriously it was bad. beyond bad, i wanted to leave but thought it was poor form to abandon my friends. so i sat there and made fun of everyone else in the bar (because, of course, i'm so fucking perfect i can afford to make fun of other people).

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

Yup, I was just going to say, the two times I went were because a certain katieburger was pursuing a bartender and a bunch of us got dragged along. It's defintely not the kind of place I'd want to hang at often, but adequate for drinking and laughing at people with funny haircuts.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

i was giving them all nicknames, there was q-tip (he looked like one), fatty, least successful baldwin brother, pauly ramone (looked like a cross between paul from moto and dee dee ramone), gollem, beardface, cue ball, tubby, fat ass(id) [wearing acid washed jeans, i shit you not], and toro (nose ring).

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

You guys and your bartenders.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

One of my many regrets is that I never tended bar anywhere. Of course I could probably rectify this but it would mean busting ass as a bar-back to pay dues and I don't really want to go through that.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

Aww. I just want a good, unpretentious place I can go dancing.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

neo.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

the friend i was out with last night will be there tonight for 80s night or some such. i politely declined that invitation.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

Hey wait, it's Thursday! Anyone feeling thirstay?

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

John, send me some of yer wedding playlists, please. No reason.

Sure. Part of it is knowing the crowd, though. If I'm at a wedding attended mostly by K College Class of 1997, then I kind of have to play "Seven" (Prince), "Groove is in the Heart" (Deee-Lite!), "No Diggity" (Blackstreet), "Laid" (James), and "Freedom '90" (George Michael). And even though all of those songs are pretty great, they've all become tainted by having to hear them over and over at various weddings, NYE parties, etc.

It's interesting to me what songs from this decade have entered the wedding-playlist canon. "Hey Ya" and "Crazy in Love" (2003 was a good year) are probably the top two. At the last wedding I went to, I also heard "Ignition (Remix)" and "SexyBack."

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

I've been to enough 80's nights in my life. Too many, truth be told. It's all about the DJ working the set up to a fevered enough pitch that he can get by with playing "Blue Monday," and then you all go home. It's bleeding boring. (Unless you have some cocaine.)

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

80s Night at Neo was OK when I went with Eazy and some other folks a few nights ago.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

And by "nights" I mean months.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

Jaymc OTM wrt the '00 songs imbedded in weddings, I heard all four of those mentions at the last two weddings I've been to. Also add "Get Low".

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha. I linked my mom the Grups article and in response she sent a really long email about how angry it makes her that these rich, self-centered kids are having babies while still living in their own Neverlands. And then they want to do whatever they can to keep the babies from being intrusions into their childlike lifes. Meanwhile, there are immigrant children starving...

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

lifes

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

"Get Low," wow -- that's a pretty raunchy song to play at a wedding. But then again, I've heard stories about grandpas dancing to "Strokin'" by Clarence Carter, so who knows.

It'd be nice to be able to get away with playing awesome songs at weddings that aren't such conventional wedding-playlist material, but sooner or later, you have drunk bridesmaids tugging at your sleeve, begging to hear Bon Jovi.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

Do you have it on hand?

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

NOT AT OUR WEDDING

This is the thread where you list songs you want us to play at our wedding, which you will dance to.

DO IT NOW

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

Haha... at the most recent wedding, the DJ followed up "Get Low" with "Pussy Control" (not sure if thats the actual name... my Prince is a little fuzzy).

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

"Get Low," wow -- that's a pretty raunchy song to play at a wedding.

well, you know what the rice throwing is supposed to symbolize.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

Otherwise I will only play this at top volume all night:

http://www.residentadvisor.net/images/news/2007/edbanger_vol2.jpg

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

"big popular songs are super-fun to dance to!"

no

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

I actually have no Bon Jovi on my iPod, but I've told myself that I'm going to have to download some for EL's wedding in September, because this scenario always happens, and people are always disappointed.

I do have lots of other stuff people want to hear, though, like Michael Jackson, AC/DC, Duran Duran, Young MC, etc.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, if I ever get married no one is allowed to take any requests from my sister, she likes nu-hippie shit. Bon Jovi is before her time, though.

― Laurel, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

i fear any and all music that may or will or could conceivably be played at a wedding reception.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

I suggest you play french and german house music all night, and not take requests from anyone.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

I've been to some pretty raunchy weddings, yo.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

"big popular songs are super-fun to dance to!"

no

I still think there's something exciting about the collective pleasure that happens when everyone's jumping around and singing along to Britney Spears or whatever, even if I go home and put on some obscure Krautrock band when I'm by myself.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

I like this essay on House, even though I don't watch it (or ER): http://jeremydenk.blogspot.com/2007/04/more-about-house.html

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

i'd be up for some tt action.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

This is the thread where you list songs you want us to play at our wedding, which you will dance to.

DO IT NOW

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

I thought there was a nonverbal agreement that nobody was to respond to anything posted by Dr. Morbius.

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

My request: "I used to Love Her" -- Guns n' Roses

(Funny backstory: A very prim and proper Methodist wedding I went to had a little game at the reception where instead of clinking glasses to get the bride and groom to kiss, each table of people would have to sing a snippet of a song with "love" in the title. So there was lots of cheesy stuff being sung, and we came up with the idea of singing that song... none of us had the balls to follow through, though. Then again, we did get the DJ to spin "Pussy Control" as the last song of the night.)

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

I actually like taking requests! I like being able to fulfill someone's spontaneous drunken desire and make them all happy. The requests themselves aren't always that interesting, though.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

LOVE SHACK BABY LOVE SHACK

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

handy guide for how raunchy a wedding should be

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/sexy_curve.jpg

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

jaymc the last pop song that was true of (that I know) is "Hey Ya"


kisses n/a

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

no, the nonverbal agreement was to pretend that iranians don't make movies, wasn't it?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, also for some reason, there's this weird thing at the K'97 weddings and parties I've gone to where the only Basement Jaxx song you can play is "Red Alert," and everything else is considered like hopelessly obscure. I think maybe someone was really into Rooty back in the day and got other people into that song, so now it's a staple.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry: Remedy.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

Hey Ya is definitely in the wedding canon. I've heard 'Rock Your Body' a lot too.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

There is not a single song that will make me dance at a wedding reception.

― Jeff, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

Oh I need to remember to add "Oh My Gosh." But I don't think it's on our computer anymore ;_;

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

I think the problem is that we've been focusing exclusively on love songs. We need to broaden our horizons to just generally happy-sounding music that can be danced to.

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

me and towga's wedding song = girl like you by the troggs. AWESOME SONG RUINED.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

Other '00s songs that are now wedding staples: "Gold Digger," "Toxic."

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

"Last Call" - Big Boi

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

Buffalo Stance
Something by the Cars

xpost Gold Digger would be too embarassing because it would remind everyone Nick's marrying me for my money.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

YOU HAVE MONEY!?!?!

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

Holy shit

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

I also have to sequence the playlist so it starts off with parent-friendly jams, probably mainly oldies, and gradually segues into more current stuff, before climaxing with "Just Fucking" by Audion.

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

"Buffalo Stance" would be awesome, I haven't heard that in a long time.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

"Now That We Found Love," Heavy D and the Boyz

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

Tamborine!

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

why don't you guys just play kenan's mix from the other day? every wedding should have w.a.s.p.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe I would dance to Fabulous Muscles.

― Jeff, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

The big question: do you go with "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" or "Wanna Be Startin' Something"?

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

depends how early/late you play it.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

We need a PM Dawn breakdown for the slow dancers.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

I guess when I think of dancing in front of other people, I just keep flashing back to middle school/early high school.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

When I was an exotic dancer.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah, I told you I'm not dancing at our wedding, right?

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

YOU WERE AN EXOTIC DANCER?!?!?!

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

- Holy shit

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

Nick,
This is the thread where you list songs you want us to play at our wedding, which you will dance to.

DO IT NOW

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

How do you think she acquired all that money?

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

Weird. It wouldn't let me post that without the dash in front. Kept saying it was a "duplicate message," even though I posted the same thing like 5 minutes ago.

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

Can we have "Talk Dirty to Me" at our wedding?

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

Later in the set, yes.

Is Barbecutie romantic?

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

I would dance to all this Michael Jacksons.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

Also Just the Two of Us is required.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

I demand "Barbie Girl," "Hobo Humpin' Slobo Babe," and "Cotton Eye Joe."

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

Most unfortunate song played at the wedding I went to three weeks ago? The Stephen Curtis Chapman cover of The Proclaimers' "I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)". I had to Google it when I got home because I was shocked that someone bothered to cover that.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

i dl'ed "talk dirty to me" last night. It's a partyin' song.

"Now That We Found Love," Heavy D and the Boyz

ok, that's just great. Yes.

Can I request "Ass and Titties" by DJ Assault?

soap soap soap soap soap soap soap soap soap soap soap soap soap

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

I would dance to "House of Jealous Lovers," except with overdubbed vocals so that it goes "HOUSE OF! NICK AND SARAH!"

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

yes but that would just be silly

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

do you go with "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" or "Wanna Be Startin' Something"

don't stop till you get enough is an engine starter, good lead-off track, that kinda thing. Wanna Be Startin is for later, I think, because it's just a fuckin' monster.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

I just bought a Pitchfork Fest ticket, before the hordes of rabid Yoko Ono fans jam the switchboard.

I really hope I'm in town that weekend and not on tour.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

hordes of rabid Yoko Ono fans

ha ha

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://vintagegirlwatchers.com/img/gw-1959-06-18.jpg

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

I just needed a place to post that, and it didn't fit anywhere else.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

Bands playing Pfork that I actually want to see:

Sonic Youth
Battles
Of Montreal
Deerhunter
Nomo
Cat Power (only so I can pelt her with marshmallows until she starts crying)

* note: I will still mostly likely go to the whole thing

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

crepey

xpost

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

I don't really know anything about Nomo but I bet they would be fun live.

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

Just like how I'm not really a huge Battles fan but I'm betting they can turn it on live (hello, John Stanier).

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

Nomo is indeed fun live. We played with them at Subterranean a couple of years ago (along with Saturday Looks Good to Me).

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

Have I mentioned that I once got a dollar bill signed by Helmet at Summerfest?

If I were going to go to this, which I'm not, I would see Battles, Ken Vandermark, and Craig Taborn (who would hopefully have Dave King with him). And Sonic Youth and GZA. If I were going.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

Nomo is grebt live. I need to go buy my ticket now.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

Who the hell is the Twilight Sad? A particularly morose Greg Dulli project?

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

I just got a spam e-mail from "Masturbated M. Contempt." LOL.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

haha

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

John, why do you always sound so indignant when you don't know what something is?

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

They are an indie rock band. I think they might be scottish.

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

"Masturbated" as a first name alone is cracking me up, the rest is perfect.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

HI DERE.

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

they are scottish, and the name fits them like a glove

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

John, why do you always sound so indignant when you don't know what something is?

Eh, I dunno, it's an act.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

charming.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, in this case, it's that I've seen the name multiple times in the past week and hadn't heard of them before that, so my question was really more like, "Who the hell is the band that everyone's talking about all of a sudden?" The first time I saw the name, I really did think it was a typo for "Twilight Singers."

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

I want to tie my coworker down and force chapstick on her dry, dry lips.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

I don't like to feel left out.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

The ads on pfork make me want to hurl.

John, there's this thing called google, you'll never be left out (for long) again.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

I do it all the time when in similar situations.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

THE WORLD IS AT YR FINGERTIPS

goddammit xpost

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

I'm trying to figure out how early I can justify leaving work. I have nothing to do.

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

(The same night I threw a beer at a friend of mine because she was trying to set up a friend of hers with a mutual friend of ours, even though I had a crush on her friend and thought I deserved to be set up instead. That part I do remember.)

-- jaymc, Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:17 AM (2 hours ago)

xpost

(sorry)

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

I want to tie my coworker down and force chapstick on her dry, dry lips.

...and beg her to call you "sir"?

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

I want to tie my coworker down and force chapstick on her dry, dry lips.

explicit!

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

haha xpost

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

I think I will leave - VERY SOON

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

One of my favorites was always http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

Oh that's okay, I want to do that to Ian Johnson all the time. Mundanities like chapstick do not concern him.

― Laurel, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

Obv. I can use Google, and do so on many occasions. The reason I ask you guys is because a) you might have a unique perspective on the subject in question, and b) I want to register my frustration/confusion/ignorance for all to see.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

P-Fork tickets = ordered.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

hey, i've got to get back to work but is anyone up for TT action?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry, can't tonight.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

I still am.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i can't either, i am promised to another

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

I am trying to be healthy, which is pretty lame, except that I do love all this stuff I got at TJ's last night.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

What stuff?

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

Fresh strawberries, bananas, Kashi cereal, Kashi granola bar, some kinda crazy trail mix, dried cranberries, low fat moz string cheese, and, not as fun, multivitamins. I haven't eaten all that today though. :-D I just aimed to get some healthy snacks.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

"NO LIMIT" - 2 UNLIMITED (for the wedding)

I was at TJs the other night and bought Kashi, b-monster, soy chips, nuts, um....

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

Now that I'm completely out of food (except for leftover mac & cheese) I might go back there, I liked the chili and the little pizzas. I guess I do still have some TJ frozen fish but I haven't remembered to thaw it in two months.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

"STRIKE IT UP" - BLACK BOX
"SAME SONG" - DIGITAL UNDERGROUND
"O.P.P. (Instrumental)" - NAUGHTY BY NATURE
"SHOW ME LOVE" - ROBIN S.

Bagels and preserves, which I had this morning, yum.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

when do they start selling one-day LOLpalooza tix? cuz even if I make it, Big Chicks bbqon Sunday might trump Yo La Tengo.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

Hey! It got sunny and fairly pretty out! What gives?

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

My only wedding request is that you don't play obscure songs that 3 people like; play songs that you're pretty sure everyone knows. It's waaaaay more fun that way. I appear like a spazzy antelope in too many wedding videos to deny that I love dancing at weddings. My date will not be dancing. He can keep the seats warm with Jeff.

In other news, we had a little party at school today and I enjoyed some Spanish-language religious pantomime. Eeee.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

Big Chicks has bbq?

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

I will largely be hanging out with the undancing husbands btw, except I will be drinking while doing this, and that may lead to dancing.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

I was looking up the 2 Unlimited video and found Bjork covering "No Limit" instead.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

The Undancing Husbands would make a pretty good band name.

I am often the only dude on the dance floor, it's true.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

well, in summer 2001 Big Chicks had a summer bbq! (not "barbecue" the food)

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

Eric can shake a leg.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

Nick better dance or the marriage is off (healthy way to start out).

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

No dancing for me was a condition for the marriage.

― Jeff, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

I danced with Jenny once at the Cove. I think we actually danced TO Nick and Sarah doing "(i had) the time of my life."

That song is a total 100% necessary song at your wedding, btw.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

shit, it's probably part of the ceremony, isn't it?

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

tell me it is

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

dan (and anyone else yet unheard from) where do you want to go?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

i was thinking mac's on division (division & wood i think, about 1800W-ish) because I have a hankering for mac 'n' cheese. it's only two blocks west from the division blue line stop.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

or we could go to rainbo for cheap beerz.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

Someplace that has beers. Green Eye was cool 'cause it's on my train but anywhere is fine.

xpost: those are cool too

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

i'm going to mac's then.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

Did my bloody mary pic post to the bloody mary thread? I don't know why I'm having trouble posting flickr images lately.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

xpost Sounds good.

I just posted a ysi link on the original chilx blog to a record of Detroit krautrockers Giant Brain. It's good stuff.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

I hate to do this every single Thursday, but was L O S T good this week? I want to have something to look forward to after band practice tonight.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

I missed it last night too (date! :D). Katie said it was good.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

It was pretty good.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

Date!

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

It is no longer beautiful outside.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

:D :D :D?

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

At the rist of jinxing myself: not yet, but soon.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, I don't know what that means. It was a good second date, and there are 2 more on the horizon.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

Where did you go, Dan?

(I used that emoticon last year when things were looking promising, like after a good date or an enthusiastic e-mail.)

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

oh, see, i thought that emoticon meant the deal had been sealed.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

i did too!

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

xpost yeah me too, then I thought better of it just now

A bar in L. Square, just up from the Old Town School. First one was at Lula.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

(D@i|y's)

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

beartraps No, it just meant I was very happy!

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

I always thought it meant that you got busy. Haha.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

At the time I found it a little strange you would mention it, but alright since you weren't being crude about it.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

If I got busy I wouldn't mention it here, I don't think.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't think so.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

WE WANT DETAILS

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

Gross.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

assuming it ever happens again i won't mention it here but i will direct you to the billboard on ashland & clybourn with all the pertinent details and information.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

Details:

I had a sandwich and fries, she had a burger and fries. We both drank beers. There was a really drunk doctor talking and swearing really loudly. I dripped ketchup on my shirt.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

I swear, if you go through the archives last year, you'll see that the smiley face does indeed connote action.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

Someone's trying to protect hisself.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

:| = no action, kinda disappointing

:) = hooray, nice time, got a kiss

:D = PHOAR WOW WE DID THE DEED AND MADE A MESS!

;) = wouldn't you like to know, you pervert

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

srsly, it didn't surprise me that i took something pleasant and gave it a pervy sheen but amanda and eazy? no, not buying it.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

0_o

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

:-O

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

i think that one is fairly self-explanatory.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

%) = got drunk, hooked up

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

eazy and i have as much pervy sheen as you do, jheri curl.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

0_o

what is this one?

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

Socked in the eye.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

High and outside, bro.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

one big eye, one little eye, kind of an arched eyebrow effect.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

Re grupdom: I have two kids. My wife and I are trying to strike a balance with our kids between a) exposing them to cool music/culture (with the understanding that they'll probably rebel later); b) save our own sanity by downplaying the crappy kids' entertainment out there; c) avoiding being "grups" at all costs.

(And yeah, I hate that word, too.)

― mike a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

I don't feel like reading the whole day's worth. QUICK SYNOPSIS ANYONE?

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

jheri curl? you haven't seen me in MONTHS have you?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

??http://members.aol.com/WernerVWallenrod/bass/3rd3.jpg

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

Yes I have seen you. I just wanted to think of the sheeniest thing I could think of.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

GASFACE EMOTICON PLZ

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

Ada, the 18-month old who was at the house concert here last fall and who is now more like 2 years, can sing all the words to Pavement's "Stereo". It sounds like a parlor trick but it's really cute.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

There is a dearth of Coming to America jpegs on these here internets.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

I don't feel like reading the whole day's worth. QUICK SYNOPSIS ANYONE?

blah blah meatloaf blah blah nick & sarah blah blah wedding music blah blah john's going to dance and there's nothing we can do to stop him.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

I have friends whose daughter can sing most of the words to several Neutral Milk Hotel albums.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

albums = songs

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

Did anyone mention me today, is I guess what I really care about? The rest of yous can go hang.

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

All y'all's kids are gonna be hardcore juggalos.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

blah blah blah dan had a 2nd date blah blah blah emoticons blah blah blah

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

No, Jesse.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, NO!

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

I have friends whose daughter can sing most of the words to several Neutral Milk Hotel albums.

oh wow is THAT kid gonna freak out a school psychologist.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

So she sings about ovaries and nazis?

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, I didn't realize 'til now that the Dems' first debate is tonight. Guess I'll have to put off the B movies til later (yes the BSM and the Piven are at the BNV all next week too).

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

"King of Carrot Flowers" is her fave. This is T0m@s' niece btw.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

Although ... :) :) :) :)

-- jaymc (jaymc), Friday, March 31, 2006 10:32 AM (1 year ago)

This was because I just got an e-mail from her that said, "Hey, I had a great time last night, thanks again for dinner."

We didn't even kiss until two days later.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

I was just like, What band is the Dems'? Welcome to duhsville, population me. I skipped over the word 'debate' completely.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

My oldest can sing "Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da," except she sings it "La la, how the Legos on." And she puts her hands on her head as if she's "putting the Legos on." I think I prefer it to the original.

She doesn't know any NMH.

― mike a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

The "I love you, Jesus Christ" part would pretty much freak out her Jewish family.

― mike a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

I'll say it again: when they're old enough to make their own decisions, all y'all's kids are gonna be hardcore juggalos.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

I was confused by your :) :) :), that's all.

-- regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, March 31, 2006 10:38 AM (1 year ago)

E-mails, dude. Makin' arrangements.

-- jaymc (jaymc), Friday, March 31, 2006 10:38 AM (1 year ago)

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

-- Laurel (Laurel), Friday, March 31, 2006 10:39 AM (1 year ago)

I don't know, Laurel. You tell me. ;-)

-- jaymc (jaymc), Friday, March 31, 2006 10:40 AM (1 year ago)

Fuck if I know.

-- regular roundups (Dave M), Friday, March 31, 2006 10:40 AM (1 year ago)

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

Dave-o! Davie-boy!

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

Juggalos. The only real way to rebel against parents with punk pasts.

― mike a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

That thread is great. I can't believe that on a single day I got a happy e-mail from Kr re our date the night before, had lunch with you guys at Hannah's Bretzel, and crashed a frat-party at U of C with Eric and Kenan.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

3/31/06 NEVER FORGET

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

Juggalos. The only real way to rebel against parents with punk pasts.


sorry dude but you're chasing your kids towards bland folk music. get ready for an adolescence revolving around the new christy minstrals or some shit.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

Dave. Dave if you are with us, knock twice.

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

I'm so glad you guys have a sense of adventure. A U of C frat party, Soundbar, etc.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

I just took a sleeping pill because I had caffeinated tea earlier and you know, look out, but I'd be remiss if I didn't post before going to bed:

:) :) :) :) (^a million)

-- jaymc (jaymc), Monday, April 3, 2006 12:17 AM (1 year ago)

OK, this is when we made out for the first time. Note the difference.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

Dave. Dave if you are with us, knock twice.

-- Jesse, Friday, April 27, 2007 3:06 AM (5 minutes ago)

Knock-knock.

― Dave_Man, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

NUH UH

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

What's up guys? Think I was gone for good?

― Dave_Man, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

We thought you were in jail.

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

It's John. Because John would say What's up guys?

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.ghostofaflea.com/archives/MaryJaneWatson.jpg

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

Guys, how do you feel about houndstooth?

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

La la, how the Legos on.

As far as I'm concerned, this is how the song goes from here on out until infinity.

Who is mike a? Besides some grup?

Man alive, I spent my lunch in a roundtable discussion with labor lawyers about how internet message boards work and I'm sitting there thinking, Oh wow if you all only knew...

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

xp - I like it. Herringbone reminds me of gradeschool because my uniform was herringbone.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

i am pro-houndstooth

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

Good for cook pants.

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

JENNY COME IM WITH ME NOWISH

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

Houndstooth is pretty neat. Houndstooth skirts are pretty. Houdstooth pants are fey, but if you can get away with it...

I wore me some houndstooth in high school.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

I'm thinking of houndstooth blazer. I love Jeff's tweed blazer.

Yesterday I saw a silk tweed blazer!

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

I have houndstooth jacket that I rather like. Also a vintage houndstooth dress that gives me pointy boobs.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

pointy juggalos

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

I like houndstooth.

I am not Dave Man. (I think the real Dave is too busy interviewing top-shelf indie artists on noted website Pitchforkmedia.com to bother with us anymore.)

"mike a" is some grup who lives in St. Louis, I think.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

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― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

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― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

I've never had menjesse. Is it like strudel?

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

no, but there is frosting.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, Nick and I met mike a. in st. louis. He is into the musics.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

http://991.com/newgallery/Style-Council-Internationalists-139835.jpg

I can't find a full-size reproduction of the cover of the Style Council's Internationalists, but the guy who isn't Paul Weller has some excellent houndstooth slacks.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

:) :) :) - gettin' some

:) :) - had a good time

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

When certain members of this page have written smiley-face smiley-face at 9 a.m., you know it's not about a date.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

http://images.overstock.com/f/102/3117/8h/www.overstock.com/images/products/P10224577.jpg

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

Look at my beautiful new sportscoat.

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

Are you a real estate agent or a hotel concierge?

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

Or a giant dork?

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

Is it true that "dork" used to mean "wang"? My parents always told me that it did. True?

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

That's right. WANG.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

I think so, yes. Which would be a hilarious thing to refer to a penis as nowadays.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

"So then I unzipped his pants, and he has this GIANT DORK in there!"

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

http://images01.overstock.com/images/products/P10464133.jpg

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

Famous actress: "I'm not cool at all. I'm a total dork!"

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

"Wolfman's got nards!"

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.geocities.com/ynot_tony.geo/Dork.jpg

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

That looks like the blue jacket I wore to Matt P.'s wedding last summer (look at John's myspace photo to see the back of it). Same color. Mine has one button, though. Got it at a thrift store in Tempe, AZ, in 1992.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

It is popularly asserted that the term originated as whalers' occupational slang for the penis of a whale, and by transfer became an anatomical insult, undergoing subsequent generalization and amelioration to its present meaning. The current state of evidence suggests that this is a case of folk etymology[1], as no solid documentation has been advanced for the use of the term in this context. One of the earliest documented uses of the word "dork" is a 1961 publication (referencing 1953), in which the meaning is clearly penis, but with no particular reference to whales[2]. Instead, the term may be merely a minced oath variant of "dick", a vulgar term for a human penis. Nonetheless, the origin of the whale-reference and its widespread credit remain unexplained, and the claimed derivation is best treated as unconfirmed.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

isn't there a scene in 16 candles where the younger brother meets long duk dong and says "he's named after a duck's dork"?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

yes

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

Moby Dork?

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

Moby DON'T.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

It feels like Friday.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

Calling all lurkers. Honestly.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

I have reason to be asking this. Suspicions. Good ones.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

me too.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

it's amazing what things come up in night time conversations hours after being discussed here.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

Mmmhmm. And emails. [cough]

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

Who's lurking? Sneed, I know you're there.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

Show your faces, lurker bitches!
(Note: I am not hostile)

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

Dave?

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

Not the one you're thinking of...

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

I'm confused

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not thrilled.

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

I feel a distinct sensation of unthrilledness.

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

so am i. People you know are lurking and... what... emailing you about things they would not know unless they read this thread?

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe. It's not a big deal. I just wanted to check.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

It's nothing to get worried about.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not worried.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

I want the best soup ever tonight.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

conversation at my table today:

"I just don't understand the strong anti-Bush sentiment. What good do they think it is going to do to put a limit on the length of time this war goes on?"

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I don't know, it might be good to lessen the number of people who die or something.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

Something like that. Maybe limit the amount of money we spend on killing those people.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

Why do you hate America?

― dan m, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

I AM LEAVING FOR BEERTOWN IN 35 MINUTES. ETA- 6 P.M.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

I have planet earth dvds now.

― Jeff, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Ooh.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGLSDJFLKSJDL:KSJDLKSDJKDKDKDKD

Who wants to come over and watch some AWESOME nature shows????

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Bought or rented?

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

I really want to see them, but also I want to see the Office.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

And I want soup.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

Those are my demands.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

i wish we were all dead

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe I was wrong about the lurking.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

jesse take that back NOW

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

NOWNOWNOWNOWNOW DO IT NOW

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

In return, I have a new cold to give out to anyone who wants it.

xxxxpost lovely

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

The 5 discs for Planet Earth: The Complete Collection have been added to your Queue starting at position 75.
This series' first disc has a short wait.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

<i>Who wants to come over and watch some AWESOME nature shows????</i>

:)

I do.

We can actually play the Planet Earth drinking game!

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

I will take it back, but there is a small restocking fee.

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

i will pay it my life is worth that

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

so is yours

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

Best soups:

clam chowder
tomato bisque
cheesy potato
butternut squash
anything gumbo-ish
???

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

i wish we were all dead except for amanda. i wish amanda would live forever. even after life is unbearably long, like it was for lestat or something.

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

no. i want you all to live. that was a plural "yours".

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

so ARE yours

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

you guys's

― Jesse, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

no dying
more living

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

One of my grossest memories in the last few years was sitting in front of my mom in the 'cafe' at Target while she ate a warmed up can of clam chowder. It wasn't that it was her. It was that it was clam chowder and I was in close proximity of said chowder. Ew.

I do love butternut squash. Also, I love things with potato and cheese in them. I keep wanting to try some sort of potato/veggie/cheese casserole or at least scalloped potatoes but Nick is too scared.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

Also, Mo' Money.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

xp - My chicken and rice soup

We bought the DVDs. Note: I am inviting people over at a later date, not tonight, if that helps with the conflicts in schedules.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

fresh, well-prepared clam chowder is a thing of glory. Canned, not so much.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

Poor Nick, who hates to eat.

Sarah don't let that ruin all clam chowders for you, it is a glorious food.

xpost lol

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

I can help out with you nature show habit, actually, and burn you copies of Life On Earth, if you like.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

Though I suppose anything cheesy = not healthy.

O_o

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan, I wouldn't eat it anyway because of DE CLAMS which are not vegetarian-friendly. They are vegetarian-mean.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

Goddam xposts! I want to agree with the good homemade clam chowder assessment. One of Jeff's aunts makes some KICK ASS clam chowder. Or maybe it's seafood chowder? Doesn't matter. It's kick ass.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

I find it possible that such a thing exists, but this wasn't it.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

It was just stinky.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

I keep wanting to try some sort of potato/veggie/cheese casserole or at least scalloped potatoes but Nick is too scared.

Surely I have a recipe for something like this somewhere that I can share with you. I live to find a way to work more cheesy casseroles into my life.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

I do not like craemy soups.

There is something sad about the eating areas in grocery stores and large department stores. It reminds me of the thanksgiving we spent at Olde Country Buffet. :-/

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

I think the something sad is that the food is just terrible and rushed and the lighting is bad and they are usually dirty and there's a lot of trash and very little love.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

Just like Olde Country Buffet.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

If it weren't for Nick (whom I just realized I've been mentioning an awful lot today), there would be quite the cheese shortage in my life. It would be a relative cheese scare, possibly at y2k levels. And yet... and yet he doesn't understand this whole casserole concept.

xpost - The other day, spotting a Taste3 fr33ze (the one in logan sqr) brought back sad memories for me. :-(

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

Isn't OCB the place that makes fun of other restaurants for selling seafood at "market price" on the menu?

Don't get ripped off by those fancy pants market price restaurants! Come to Old Country Buffet for all the reconstituted codsticks and fake crab meat you can eat for $2.99! Kids eat free!

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

Darn tootin!

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

I have some weird, unidentifiable and sort of melancholy memories about T.Freez, too. Thinking of it makes me feel sad and bored.

Dairy Queen, on the other hand, makes me think of the beach and chocolate jimmies.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

I miss TCBY.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

Friendly's in da house.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

TCBY = beach
Friendly's = shopping trips to the Dover Mall with my grandmother and FRIBBLES.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

hee hee
Yeah, Friendly's is good because you could get fried food and milkshakes in the same setting.

― KitCat, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

Fribbles fribbles fribbles fribbles fribbles fribbles fribbles fribbles fribbles

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

I remember one time my parents dragged me to Friendly's after they picked me up from the babysitter and I was wearing my pjs. I was SO EMBARRASSED to be in a restaurant in my pjs that I refused to eat. My dad got really mad and yelled at me for not eating.

OH and one time my mom told the people at the pick up window that they might have a rat problem (look at the droppings, ahem) and she was informed that they were jimmies. Not turds.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

We still laugh about that.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

Friendly's = shopping trips to the Dover Mall with my grandmother and FRIBBLES.


at one time there was not one, not even two, but THREE, count 'em, THREE friendly's in the little suburban town where i grew up.

and yeah, fribbles kicked ass.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

Mander's PJ trip to Friendly's reminds me of the time my (biological) father woke my step brother and I up at 3 AM and took us to the newly opened 24 hour Dunkin Donuts a half hour away from his house because, you know, 24 hour Dunkin Donuts!

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

and she was informed that they were jimmies.

A LIKELY STORY.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

The fuck are fribbles?

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

jenny, how long did your father have the coke problem at this point?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

I believe I would still enjoy a Shoney's breakfast buffet.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

fribbles are basically frappes.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

'manda, did you go to Ike's in Mt. Vernon? I went there all the time but only to Friendly's once or twice.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

I dunno Kevin. I started easing off on the weekend visits after that.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

I had a Shoney's breakfast buffet in New Orleans last year, it was...plentiful, at least.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

oh and jenny, your name came up last night when my friend jay asked if you were done with school. she kept yelling "SPRING BREAK, WHOOOO" every time she went to the bar. she is not looking forward to summer school.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

It was really weird seeing that Tastee Freez on Armitage a few weeks back. I thought that it was only a rural thing.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

“What’ll you have, red guy?”
“I’ll have a frappe.”

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

ez - I think I remember going there once or twice. I went to Friendly's more in gradeschool than college. My parents took me there because they thought I liked it. I only sort of liked it.

xp I drive past that Tastee Freeze 4x a week!

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

Jay is the law student, yeah? Is she in bar exam school this summer?

I had another attorney tell me that his summer of bar study was the best summer of his life today. Part of me welcomes this news, and part of me wants to cover my ears and run away hollering because I really don't need any encouragement to go easy on this bar prep nonsense, you know?

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

MAN you know what was awesome, though? That ice cream thingie they had in the shape of a watermelon? MOTHER that was good. The rind was lemon sherbet and the watermelon was watermelon sherbet with chocolate bits.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

That ice cream thingie they had in the shape of a watermelon? MOTHER that was good.


OH HOLY FUCK I HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT IN 18 YEARS!!!! yes, it was insane. oh goddamn, now i want to visit my parents this summer just to get one of those things.

or, y'know, go somewhere i WANNA go that also has a friendly's.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

I live by that Tastee Freeze!

guys I miss Friendly's something fierce now.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

I just learned, like as in a minute ago, that Stuckey's is a convenience store and not a Shoney's/Perkins'/Friendly's-esque restaurant as I had somehow been led to believe.

Sometimes I spoonerize "Starbucks" in my head, and, taking a little liberty at the end, it becomes Bar Stuckey's.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

OK, never mind, Friendly's is an ice-cream place. I don't know what I'm talking about. I grew up 45 minutes away from here.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

jenny, i don't think it's bar exam, she told me what classes she's taking but i could barely hear because it was so loud in the bar last night. i did find out that her dad is insanely rich. i knew her family was well off but i had no idea until she casually dropped into conversation an annecdote that happened at the oil field her dad owns.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, Perkin's.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

Oh wait, it is a restaurant...?

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

Is Stuckey's like a truck stop convenience store deal?

My mother would never let me get the watermelon slice OR the sundae with the clown face on it. She thought it was inappropriate to infantalize my food like that. She was so weird.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

Perkins and Embers were the ones I grew up with, and Pannekoeken Huis.

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

ice cream maker first, chain of ice cream stands/restaurants second.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

Her dad is JR!

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

stuckey's sells pecan logs. Near as I can tell, they do not do anything else.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

I AM LEAVING FOR BEERTOWN NOW!!! SEE YOU SUCKERS.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

I had breakfast on Sunday at a Village Inn in Iowa City, which was almost exactly like Denny's in every regard, from the laminated menus to the placement of the bathrooms.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

And Eazy, I thought of you when I drove past your hometown on Saturday afternoon.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

Did you guys play a show in Mpls.? Where did you play?

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

Denny's was for learning how to drink coffee and smoke and hanging out all night. Perkin's was for if we actually wanted to eat food (because it was good, and because they actually expected us to order stuff there).

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

OMG NO. Perkins puts CELERY in their omelette's. Or they did the last time I ate at the Perkins in Newark, Delaware, which would have been like 2000.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

Diners I went to in high school: Denny's, IHOP, Omega (in Downers Grove), Family Square (in Bolingbrook). For food, though, we went to Chili's.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

Really? I don't remember that, and I sure at a lot of omelettes and probably hated celery.

Pro: pancakes come as a SIDE! Also, the fried chicken w/pepperjack sandwich.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

Eric, we played at the Uptown Bar and Cafe, which was great because it's spitting distance from most of my friends that live there (including Kelsey).

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

Our real joint was a 24 hr Greek diner called Mykono's, with Debbie the Chainsmoking Waitress, until they closed. :(

Bottom of the barrell = George Webb's, although an ex lived by one and we went way too often.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

Unrelated: I have this friend from way back in the olden days of college who I was pretty good pals with even though he was kind of always an asshole, but you know, sometimes asshole friends are funny as long as you don't loan them money or try to date them or anything. Anyway, I added him as a myspace friend awhile back and his profile is like a fucking homage to porn and he's one of those douchebags who goes to porn star conventions and poses with women and puts all the porno myspace pages in his top ten and lists "beautiful women" and "fucking beautiful women" as his interests and it's just creepy and distasteful and he posted a bulletin about how he's looking for naked pics from women who want to be in his myspace top ten and I DELETED HIM FROM FRIENDS and now I feel better about life.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

Gross.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan, that might have been specific to the Kirkwood Highway Perkins in Newark, or maybe they ran out of regular omelet veggies and just threw in the mirepoix they'd prepped for dinner. WHO KNOWS? But it was gross and I never got an omelet there again.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

Has anyone ever heard all diners in Chicago referred to as "Greek" because Greeks own a lot of them? I've heard someone swear that this is a Chicagoism, and I'm just s stupid transplant. I have never heard this, and if I did I would be totally confused.

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

At a Perkin's in St. Cloud, MN, two of my bandmates convinced the waitress to take a chocolate (oreo?) shake and blend one of the chocolate chocolate chip muffins into it. It was epic.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

As in "I'm going to a Greek"? I've never heard that.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

A lot of the non-chain diners in Milwaukee are Greek. Besides being owned by Greek people they often have Greek names and decor, and a few Greek items on the menu (gyro omelette!).

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

I've heard people say, for example, "It's a Greek diner on Broadway and and Melrose" but that's it.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

The porn douche changed his name from something normal to something really, really fucking douchey and I want to tell you all so badly but I don't even want to put it on the internet googleproofed, JUST IN CASE.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

No, as in "Hollywood Grill is a typical Greek restaurant." Not because it has anything to do with Greek food. It's like saying, "I'm going to the Iranian convenience store."

― kenan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I think Greeks are known for their diners all over the country. Omega was a Greek diner, natch.

But Hollywood Grill is not a typical Greek restaurant. I don't know if it's a Chicago thing, but it's new to me.

― jaymc, Thursday, 26 April 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

Whenever I pass Hollywood Grill I get Beck's "Hollywood Freaks" in my head but as "Hollywood Grill".

Whenever I pass Wrigleyville Dog, I get George Clinton's "Atomic Dog" in my head but as "Wrigleyville Dog".

― Eazy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:00 (eighteen years ago)

Okay I can't take it anymore, I'm leaving to eat mac & cheese.

― Jordan, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah and I met Mike A. in St. Louis. He hit it off with Ben's dad's girlfriend. He showed us pictures of his kids. He reviewed the FF cd for the River Front Times. He is good people.

― n/a, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

I never found the "old" vegetable thins, by the way.
RIP, Vegetable Thins. You used to be good.
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/8/8d/150px-Vegetable_Thins.jpg

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

I always ate the round ones first and saved the celery and carrot shaped ones for last.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:23 (eighteen years ago)

Bell pepper shaped ones were in the middle. They were negotiable.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:24 (eighteen years ago)

Chicken in a Biskit crackers always freaked me out a little.

http://www.kraft.com.au/nabisco/images/products_inabiskit_chicken_200.jpg

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:31 (eighteen years ago)

Also: That's a nice drop shadow on that Vegetable Thins box. Good job, graphic designer.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:32 (eighteen years ago)

I like how it looks like a headstone.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:32 (eighteen years ago)

OH SHIT LOOKY HERE:

http://www.kraft.com.au/nabisco/images/products_inabiskit_vegemite_200.jpg

I want those.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

You're gross.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

But I love you anyway.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

On ChILX, we eulogize crackers.

Friends who loves us even though we're gross are the best kind of friends to have.

I'm going to cross stitch that on a sampler.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

You should give that sampler to N+S for their wedding.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

GHOST CHICKEN RIDE

http://theimaginaryworld.com/crk29.jpg

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:35 (eighteen years ago)

How about a cross stitch ghost chicken in a biskit box?

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:35 (eighteen years ago)

Those crackers look like inflatable rafts.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:35 (eighteen years ago)

Oh! I ate Flamin' Hot Cheetos for the first time today. They were...well, they tasted like cheetos with tabasco. In other words, they weren't THAT bad.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:36 (eighteen years ago)

I can't believe I saved that amazing nugget of vital info for after 6pm. What was I thinking?

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:37 (eighteen years ago)

I'm glad that I was here to share it with you.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:38 (eighteen years ago)

Did you get your BPAL order yet, Yenny? I recently ordered something that arrived today. Exciting. I smell good.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:39 (eighteen years ago)

You could probably smell me through the internets if you try hard enough.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:40 (eighteen years ago)

It just shipped, I think, so hopefully soon! Note: I am wearing Dormouse today

Were we talking about racial demographics and Red Hot Cheetos on here?

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:41 (eighteen years ago)

Because I swear I was privy to some conversation about race and Red Hot Cheetos (and ILX is a good guess as to where it would be) and there was a stupid column in the Red Eye that was supposed to be a first person narrative into the mind of a litterer who ate a bag of Red Hot Cheetos and threw the bag on the ground, and I was trying to figure out if that was racist or just stupid.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:43 (eighteen years ago)

I think so. But I tasted them today and they were red, marginally spicy and cheetoey. They're one of those foods that don't look edible, but are, if you're starving or in the mood for some spicy cheetos. They're really no better than Spicy Cheez-Its or something less red.

I dunno about the Red Eye thing.

re bpal: I had to replace the bottle of Death Cap that I spilled on FiL's bathroom floor.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:46 (eighteen years ago)

I meant no WORSE than spicy Cheezits.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:46 (eighteen years ago)

I have eaten Red Hot BAKED Cheetos and they were fine, although I had bought them by accident and was kind of bummed since I had a hankerin' for the regular cheese flavored ones. Most crunchy snack foods just make me feel sort of empty and gross inside, anyway. Which is good because there was a time when I could FUCK UP a bag of Cool Ranch flavored Doritos.

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 23:48 (eighteen years ago)

Let's talk about how some races deny that gravity exists.

― Jeff, Friday, 27 April 2007 00:27 (eighteen years ago)

OMG I just spent a half hour filing out the city's on-line job application NONSENSE in response to a posting about a sexual harassment claim investigator only to find that the position closed last September. Sheesh.

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 00:44 (eighteen years ago)

What about Chili Cheese Fritos? Truly the stoniest of stoner foods.

Oh yeah...

To: chilx
From: KR, DM
Re: TT

Weak ass bitches

EOM

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 01:53 (eighteen years ago)

Who is mike a? Besides some grup?

I live in St. Louis, but for some reason follow the Chicago threads and (very) occasionally post here.

― mike a, Friday, 27 April 2007 03:04 (eighteen years ago)

dan, it only got worse once you left. ugh.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 03:15 (eighteen years ago)

i miss chicago :(

― river wolf, Friday, 27 April 2007 03:16 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.kraftfoods.com/images/ocpimages/44000/00031cl.gif

Yum!!!

― Eazy, Friday, 27 April 2007 03:54 (eighteen years ago)

Oh! I ate Flamin' Hot Cheetos for the first time today. They were...well, they tasted like cheetos with tabasco. In other words, they weren't THAT bad.

Some of the Mexican folks at work douse their Doritos with either Tabasco or Cholula hot sauce (still in the bag) before eating. Or they use them to dip Thai crushed chili paste!

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 04:41 (eighteen years ago)

Hi, Mike! Are you the one who queried about the Bklyn Jewish err Children's Museum a while ago? Thought so.

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 05:59 (eighteen years ago)

I like Flamin' Hot Cheetos. I also like Chili Cheese Fritos, though did they totally replace BBQ Fritos? Because I never see BBQ Fritos anymore, and the taste sensation is pretty similar. Anyways, I am gross.

Did someone say they were goign to Brightblack Morning LIght at EB tonight? Jon-via-chicago? I am contemplating going to that show.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 12:43 (eighteen years ago)

BBQ Fritos were my favorite disgusting snack food for a long time. Then I stopped seeing them and now I think they have been replaced by honey BBQ fritos, which are inferior because they are shaped like rotini and therefore 15% more disgusting.

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 12:48 (eighteen years ago)

If you're gross, so am I. I eulogized a snack cracker, ffs.

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 12:49 (eighteen years ago)

dan, it only got worse once you left. ugh.

Wait, what? Did some weird drunk-ass married couple show up and start alternating hitting on/threatening you again?

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

Honey BBQ Fritos = too sweet. And yeah, the twisty shape is dumb.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

as snacks go, I never go much past potato chips. If I have my choice, I think I would have Wheat Thins every time. Cheetos have always grossed me out, even as a kid. Likewise wise Funyuns. Fritos are delicious when you dump a bunch of chili on top of them.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 12:54 (eighteen years ago)

I am serving orange juice and singing "The Rain" by Oran "Juice" Jones.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 12:56 (eighteen years ago)

Cheez-Its are like my No. 1 snack food of all time. Though we usually get Reduced Fat Cheez-Its as some sort of capitulation to propriety. They are ok if you have lots of water handy.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:00 (eighteen years ago)

Nothing beats Cheezits. I was just saying that I don't consider them even remotely disgusting compared to bbq fritos.

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:01 (eighteen years ago)

There is a huge difference between "snack food" and "disgusting snack food I only eat in airports or if I'm feeling low"

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:02 (eighteen years ago)

In other news, I discovered this morning that my pants no longer fit.
:(

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:05 (eighteen years ago)

In other news, I discovered this morning that my pants no longer fit.

i need smaller belt. or a bigger gut.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:09 (eighteen years ago)

i miss chicago :(

-- river wolf, Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:16 PM (Yesterday)

transfer to loyola. i can vouch that there is no shortage of teh hott ladiez among the loyola med students.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:11 (eighteen years ago)

IMPORTANT: Is anyone going to be pissed if I submit the remix I did of our CHILX jam session to the ILX comp? I won't be angry if anyone says they don't want me to submit it, I realize it wasn't a real song and we were just fucking around and people probably weren't really trying that hard. But I like the way it sounds and I want to submit something.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:14 (eighteen years ago)

If I can't submit that one, I'll have to send in my cover of "Any Major Dude Will Tell You." No one wants that.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

Now I feel like a jerk for asking.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

Nevermind, I'll just submit something of my own.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

I don't care if you submit the remix.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

I don't care either. I like that "Any Major Dude" cover, too.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, it'd be kind of cool to submit the remix if you credited us, too (even if it's just as the CHILX All-Star Band or whatever we're called.)

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

Mornin'. I'm loaded on cough syrup. This is one upside of having a bad cold. I loooovveee cough syrup. I totally should have been a raver in college.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

Nick, just submit both. One as your own project and one as a ChilXor project.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I would obviously submit it as a collaboration, not as my song. Well, if Eric's cool with it, I'll just send that in later today. What band and song name should I use? I like the "Chicago Board of Tourism Fight Song" or whatever as the song name, but I'm not sure about FUNZONE! as the band name.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:44 (eighteen years ago)

Knock you out, make you fall asleep when you're on them wheels
Ain't no doubt, hit me when I beep for this refill
Once again, on my wicked high, gotta have that drank
Heard my name, Gino, I feel like I'm gonna fucking faint


Sippin' on some siz-erp, sip, sippin' on some, sip

Sippin' on some siz-erp, sip, sippin' on some, sip

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:44 (eighteen years ago)

One of my ex-girlfriends introduced me to those old-school Vegetable Thins + cheese in a can, that was good for half a minute

I never keep snack foods around anymore, except for yuppie tortilla chips or a constant supply of Triscuits (without these, what would I put salsa and cheese on???).

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:44 (eighteen years ago)

I like Triscuits with sharp cheddar and a pickle slice on top.

Chips & Salsa is my go-to party snack.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:45 (eighteen years ago)

When I lived in Richmond and didn't eat so healthily, I used to load up on salt n vinegar chips, a dr. pepper, and a kitcat bar for every band practice.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

Now I eat yuppie trail mix.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

Not a fan of guppy trail mix though.
http://www.ausyfish.com/250%20guppies%20in%20bag.jpg

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

Sippin' on some siz-erp, sip, sippin' on some, sip

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

Ha.

I have a corn & black bean salsa problem.

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

That sounds relatively healthy.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

...with a bag of chips

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

That sounds good. I decided I don't really like red salsa, at least not the kind you can buy in the grocery store. I like:
a) mexican restaurant salsa
b) Frontera Grill green tomatillo salsa
c) pico de gallo (odd considering my aversion to tomatoes)

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:52 (eighteen years ago)

Talkin' about snacks

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:53 (eighteen years ago)

Jesus H.

I was awakened by the whole house shaking. Every 15 seconds or so there was a blow so hard that I could feel it in my bed and it made the light fixtures rattle.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

And it was??

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

I have a corn & black bean salsa problem.

-- Jordan, Friday, April 27, 2007 8:49 AM (6 minutes ago)

I was awakened by the whole house shaking. Every 15 seconds or so there was a blow so hard that I could feel it in my bed and it made the light fixtures rattle.

-- Jesse, Friday, April 27, 2007 8:54 AM (2 minutes ago)

Connected?

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

I guess there was construction going on. I walked into the living room and there is a huge boom right outside my window. A crane boom that is, not the onomatopoetic kind.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

What kind of cough syrup are you drinking, Sarah?

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

I hate cold medicine, so I can't imagine any of it being fun. As much as I like to alter my consciousness, cold medicine makes me feel so spaced out that I almost feel panicky. Like when you're tripping and you just want to get off the ride.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

I want to hear your Steely Dan cover.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

mail it to meeeeeee

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to see them next weekend.

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

good friends from hozac in the reader today.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

It's from a while ago, maybe last year sometime. It was on the old blog, I think. If it's not still there, I'll repost it when I get home.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, the old link is dead, so I'll reup it later.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:19 (eighteen years ago)

Hello, I would like to have an album put out by H0zac.

My BPAL fragrance of the day is King of Hearts.

I don't know what I drank, Jesse. Probably Waltussin? Jammerman household med of choice?

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

At my work we play the Rat Pack station, so I hear the song "I Wish I Were In Love Again" quite a bit, and I thought I was imagining these lyrics, but here they are in all their violence and surreality (or -ness).



I Wish I Were in Love Again Lyrics
Artist(Band):Frank Sinatra
Review The Song (1) Print the Lyrics

Send Frank Sinatra polyphonic ringtone to your cell phone


Writer(s): Rodgers/Hart


The sleepless nights - the daily fights
The quick toboggan - when you reach the heights
I miss the kisses - and I miss the bites
I wish I were in love again

The broken dates - the endless waits
The lovely loving - and the hateful hates
The conversation - with the flying plates
I wish I were in love again

No more pain - no more strain
Now I'm sane - but I would rather be punched - drunk

The pulled out fur - of cat and cur
The fine mismating - of a him and her
I've learned my lesson - but I wish I were
In love again

The furtive sigh - the blackened eye
The words: "I love you - 'til the day I die"
The self deception - that believes the lie
I wish I were in love again

When love congeals - it soon reveals
The faint aroma - of performing seals [WTF?] [WTF?]
The double-crossing - of a pair of heals
I wish I were in love again

No, no more care - no, no despair
Now I'm all there (now) - but I'd rather be puncdrunk

Believe me sir - I much prefer
The classic battle - of a him and her
I don't like quiet - and I wish I were
In love again - in love again - in love again

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

shit, that spider 7" is already going for $30??? i have a gold copy with the arm-band... for the second time this week i am kicking myself for being too attached to my records.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

lol

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

It has definitely eaten my brain though. This guy just came in to meet with someone next door, T. He handed me his business card. Then when I went to dial the extension to tell T he was here, I instead dialed the visitor's number off his business card. Grreeeaaattt.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

Hi, Mike! Are you the one who queried about the Bklyn Jewish err Children's Museum a while ago? Thought so.

Yeah, that was me. I was visiting NYC last year and was looking for decent presents to bring home to my kids. I never did make it to the Brooklyn Jewish Museum, although I did spend an enjoyable afternoon walking around Boro Park. Maybe next time.

Hi FFfolk!

― mike a, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

Hi, mike!

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

TO ALL OF YOU (JENNY) WHO WISH TO SEE MY PICS POSTED:

Flickr is currently unable to upload, and I will try again later.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

Some stupid motherfucker keeps leaving the outside door to our building unlocked and open. It's happened 3 times this week. Today I got fed up and left a note. Normally, I hate being "that person" but seriously, our building is old and vulnerable to break-in enough as it is. Stupid hippies and their friends forgetting to lock it up is not acceptable.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone who wishes to read about my semi-recent Orthodox Jewish phase is welcome to visit here. It includes a Shabbat my wife and I spent in West Rogers Park while in town to see Belle & Sebastian.

― mike a, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

I'm trying really, really hard to imagine the faint aroma of performing seals?

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

Righty, I know you! We've met, at some point, at a house-party at...Tami's?

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

indiejew.com

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

Oh shit. I have to go to the dentist. I almost forgotted.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

The Google search results for "faint aroma of performing seals" is surprising! Books, movies, lyrics.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=bkl&q=%22faint+aroma+of+performing+seals%22&btnG=Search

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

Righty, I know you! We've met, at some point, at a house-party at...Tami's?

You know, that kind of rings a bell. Was it in Hoboken or Brooklyn? Tami and I were roommates in 'boken. Or maybe one of the house shows in Westchester?

― mike a, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

Dan M, I am 'that guy' all the time around here, but I figure it's kind of my duty as general admin person. I even had to make one of those embarassing signs for the ladies room asking the womenfolk to please not flush sanitary... And this is a very small office with very wealthy - and I assume fairly well educated? - guests.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/images/leahy2004.jpg

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

WTF!??!?!? I thought it was supposed to be nice and sunny today!

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

Frank is singing about C-ing on Ts, and how when it's fun and all, but when the "love" congeals, well, it has a funk.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

So fucking romantic.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

I downloaded a million love songs this morning that I remembered liking when I was younger. Then I deleted about half of them because I realized they are truly horrible.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

semen stains the mountain tops, semen stains the mountain tops...

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

So fucking romantic.

Well, he's singing about black eyes too!

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

He's saying women smell like seals.

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

but when the "love" congeals, well, it has a funk.

and, i've heard, gets itchy.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

Gross.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

is this the day that NYC invades the Chicago thread? I don't think I'd mind that so much.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

Me either. Bring 'em on.

Hey, there are only two other people here.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

(in the office, I mean)

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

Mike, I think it was...in Manhattan? I only have a few snapshot-style memories of it, and I think there might have been roof access...and I still have a Poconos EP, I think T must have been giving them out!

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

Woah, that must have been like 7 years ago.

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

THINK ABOUT HOW YOUNG AND EXCITING YOU WERE SEVEN YEARS AGO.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

i was young-ish and excited seven years ago anyway.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

OK, that would have to have been Tami's apt. in Brooklyn. I remember her roof.

― mike a, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

I was a fucking SNORE seven years ago, I was useless at parties, easily intimidated, and generally barely a person. NYC has honed me to a RAZOR'S EDGE.

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

I was younger and excitABLE. I'm sure Laurel remember someone who was either inappropriately hyper or strangely quiet, depending on what time of the night it was and how much I'd had to drink. (I am a quiet drunk rather than a happy/zany drunk.)

― mike a, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, Horizontal Action is nicknamed "Hozac"? That's funny, because I know a couple who call themselves that, since her last name is H0ff and his is B3rz@c. Like, they're doing the Avon breast-cancer walk as "Team H0z@c."

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

(For you Chicagoans who weren't there: the Poconos was Tami's and my band. I'm sure Chris from Indiepages still has hundreds of those 7"s if anyone wants one.)

― mike a, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

WTF!??!?!? I thought it was supposed to be nice and sunny today!

Nah, dude, that's tomorrow.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

is this the day that NYC invades the Chicago thread? I don't think I'd mind that so much.

I don't see any other New Yorkers posting here today besides Laurel.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

Good ol' indiepages.

I was totally dreading calling this homeowner back and was thinking URGH! I can't DEAL with this! I'm high on the COCAINE! (I mean, cough syrup) But then when I got her on the phone she was just like, "Thank you so much, Sarah!"

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

Mike a. is from st louis, as we've mentioned.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

I still think of myself as a New Yorker, though. At least partially.

― mike a, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

yes, horizontal action has been hozac for years. also, if you can find it, that spider record is really good. it's erin wood, he's the singer dude from the spits, and his girlfriend. a side is lo-fi keyboard/guitar/drum machine dirty rock manna. b side isn't quite as good but still a ton.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

Someone explain brightback morninglight to kenan.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah is on the cockaigne.

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

Mike, your blog is pretty interesting. I have let-us-say issues with the orthodox, as I'm non-practicing and grew up reform but my mom is straight orthodox now.

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

The best salsa is Trader Joe's Mild Fresh Salsa. Usually I like-a the spice, but the spiciness of the Hot variety overpowers the fresh, natural flavor of the tomatoes, cilantro, onions, and peppers.

My brother sent me the Brightblack Morning Light record. I thought it was just okay. Maybe I should listen to it again.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

Now they are calling for 87 on Monday!

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

"They"!

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

(I am imagining a sinister cabal of weathermen.)

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

The powers that be.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Me too, Jordan. As is probably clear from the blog, it just didn't work for me.

― mike a, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Brightblack Morning Light is kind of psychedelic but in a light, hazy, spaced-out way. Kind of like Sunday morning psychedelic. They use a lot of Rhodes electric piano. It's nice.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

It was interesting going to a shul in a former pizzeria, though, which is what the West Rogers Park one was.

― mike a, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

That Sinatra song sounds awesome, btw. I think maybe I should get some Sinatra. I like the one that Junior Boys cover.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, wanna hear a pet peeve of mine? I hate it when someone says they are so blessed after receiving an award or because they have a bunch of money. It's one thing to feel grateful, but I feel like blessed connotes favoritism by God. So, are poor starving kids riddled with disease NOT blessed?

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

Brightback on cough syrup seems appropriate.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

In fact, I would listen to it now, but I don't have it on i-tunes at work. Instead, I'm listening to ArcadeFire.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

I had to make that all one word so ArcadeFire doesn't google their band name and see that I'm listening to them.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

What Sinatra song do the Junior Boys do?

I love 'Only the Lonely' (the album).

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

Junior Boys do "When No One Cares."

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

So, are poor starving kids riddled with disease NOT blessed?

You bet! They need to pray harder.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

This cover is perfect:

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― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

http://k-punk.abstractdynamics.org/archives/no-one%20cares_.jpg

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

Poor Frankie Machine Sinatra.

The cover of OtL is so bad/great:

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/41QNGVKCHAL._AA240_.jpg

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

This one looks good, too:

http://mog.com/images/users/996/1158388757.jpeg

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

I saw a SmartCar on LSD this morning.

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― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.moma.org/exhibitions/2002/autobodies/images/smartcar.jpg

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, hallunicinations are common on lsd.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

har har har

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

wait why is my computer melting

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

Did you guys ever use the expression 'my face is melting?'

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

What would be the context for that? In band rehearsal lately, Matt has been telling our new guitarist that on a few songs he can turn up and be more aggressive and, just in general, "melt our faces" more.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

only when i worked in a pizza place in salem, n.h. as a 17 year old. the hobart oven was a scorcher.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

That would be the context, John.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.officefinder.com/images/Office_space_Watercooler.jpg

"If you could just, uh, melt our faces more, that'd be great."

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

lawlz

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

have you seen these ads in the el for a brand of nuts called Everybody's Nuts, and the ad says, "Everybody's Nuts on LSD"? I don't know if it's lame, too much, too obvious, or what, but I don't like it.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

That sounds dumb.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

i think that's what it is.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

God damn, this is insane:

http://content.ytmnd.com/content/e/0/3/e035a08e616468d1b0500bc12dcc11e9.gif

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

Watching that while listening to Von Sudenfed is a trip.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

watching it at all is a trip! That is too damn cool!

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

That's one way to get rid of blue balls.

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

Also, watching that on Sudafed (or somesuch) is also a trip.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

Todays intriguing-sounding cafeteria menu item: "river dog"

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

gross!

Ok, so this hipster guy got on the bus this morning carrying a small dog purse and the small dog poking out of it was wearing a DOWN COAT WITH A FUR TRIM HOOD.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

UPDATE! Nick and I might not be going to the EB tonight, because there is a free show tomorrow night we'd rather go to because it will be rockin', as opposed to the one tonight which miiiight make me fall asleep.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

lol

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/08/doggybag24006_394x600.jpg

I have no idea what constitutes a river dog, but feel free to guess and I will verify in about 1/2 an hour.

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

Some sort of doctored-up sausage, I hope, for your sake.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

Running with your dog attached to you would surely shake around his little dog oatmeal brains, wouldn't it?

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

he looks thrilled!

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

WHEEEEEE BOUNCY BOUNCY!

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

Exactly.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

I wish this Bottle show tonight weren't at the Bottle because that club is not good for not-rock. I'd be more interested in seeing BBML in some other venue.

― Eazy, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

True.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

I went there a few weeks ago to see Azita, who was accompanied by Emmett Kelly (really good guitar guy, plays with Oldham, Beth Orton, etc.) and left halfway through the set. Even though there were about 40 people near the stage listening to them, they couldn't hear themselves well because of all the bar noise. And they've gotten rid of the pinball machine!

Maybe with a quiet headliner it's different, but even then there, but I don't know.

― Eazy, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

Emm3tt's sister is friends with Ben's gf.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

We have a very very loose connection to that dude. Ben's gf's best friend is EK's sister.

ha ha xpost

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

We both know someone who dates someone who knows someone who is related to someone!

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

this is where i'll be tomorrow:

The Brian Costello Show with Brian Costello @ The Empty Bottle
This Saturday afternoon at 3 PM The Empty Bottle (1035 N. Western Ave) will host another edition of the live talk show, The Brian Costello Show with Brian Costello. As always, admission is free and the bloody marys are excellent.

Guests to include Max Glaessner (writer and recovering Satanist), Chris Deguire (Wisconsin aficionado), and The Screaming Yellow Zonkers (Chicago rock and roll outfit). Sidekick, Matt Flaiz and houseband, The Tony Sagger One Man Band join Costello for an afternoon of candid interviews, hearty laughs and foot-tapping music. And bloody marys.

Says Costello, "If you attend just one Brian Costello Show with Brian Costello this year, this is the one to attend!"

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

EK's sister isn't the one who works on the Springer show, is she?

― Eazy, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

I thiiiiink soooo

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, the river dog is completely encased in a doughy shell, like a hot dog calzone. More as this develops.

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

I just did a dumb thing.
I opened the door for this guy without asking who he was. He asked where the bathroom was. I said, right over here, may I ask who you're here to see? He said, the bathroom! and ran in.

Then a coworker went in the bathroom and came back out a few minutes later. I asked him if there was a man in there. He said, I didn't see one. I turned the lights out.

So then I guarded the door. I heard the sink running for a while. Then finally he emerged and was pretty angry.

SOMEONE TURNED THE LIGHTS OFF ON ME!

Then he put his jacket back on and left.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

Nick, Hi.

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

I went to the Hollywood Grill with them the night we played at Cal's. I liked Ben's gf and her friend.

(Am I not googleproofing this enough?)

xpost- heh!

― Eazy, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

Hi Sarah. I am ready to leave work. I am just waiting for this one dude, the one dude who I am always waiting for.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

There is an interesting collection of items surrounding the sausage. Olives and...sauerkraut?

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

Would you say you are waiting for the dude, Nick?

Are you waiting for the man?

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

Do you think it's supposed to represent seaweed ... like might be in a river?

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

Pepperoncini?

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

Doughy crust = riverbanks
Olives, sauerkraut, pepperoncini = seaweed
Hot dog = river

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

Hmm, intriguing. Or perhaps the dough encasement is meant to protect the sausage from water-damage, during a day on the river?

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

Hi chilxors! Where will we meet (where meet = drink) on Sunday?

― quincie, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

The sausage itelf appears to be Italian in nature, containing pepper flakes and either fennel or caraway seeds. Probably fennel?

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know where we should drink. I will defer to others' wisdom.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

It's gone now, to the river of my digestive system.

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/358884,CST-NWS-zoobooze26.article

This would be great fun.

― Jeff, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

Didn't you link to that yesterday?

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe, I don't know.

― Jeff, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

I like that the URL contains the phrase "zoobooze."

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

Friday, April 27, Empty Bottle:

Undancing Husbands
w/ Zoo Booze

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:31 (eighteen years ago)

ha

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:31 (eighteen years ago)

I has a new temporary fake tooth.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

Don't eat anything.

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

I rented my first iGo car today! It was glorious. I rented it because I thought my dentist appointment was at 11:30, but it was for 10:30, so I rented the fucker and got there in no time. Then I bought a bunch of heavy groceries.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

I fucking rented that fucking fucker and fucking drove the fuck out of it.

I think I got a fucking ticket!! I was going through a yellow light and it turned red, and then I saw a flash of light and fucking fuck if I fuckingg don't fuckingg think fuck it was a fucking ticket fuck fuck fuckfuckfuckfuck.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

I drank free Starbucks Frappucinos at the dentist's office and then a bunch of Diet Coke. Sugar and caffeine---> WHEEEE!!!

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

stupid dead thread

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

You got a fucking ticket, fucker. Those cameras are installed near my house at California/Diversey and I see people getting flashed by them all the time.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

Piss.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

Your dentist hands out free sugary drinks? A stealthy business ploy?

― sisut, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

I just cut the waistband off a pair of pants and buttoned it around the dog. She's not amused, but I think it's kind of funny. Working from home today is going really well!

― sisut, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

Perhaps. They have a fridge full of beverages. Juices, Frappucinos, water. The Diet Coke was mine.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

WHAT SHOULD I CALL THE ILX ALLSTAR BAND?

a) FUNZONE!
b) Undancing Husbands
c) Zoo Booze

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

I just cut the waistband off a pair of pants and buttoned it around the dog. She's not amused, but I think it's kind of funny. Working from home today is going really well!

So that was a work assigment?

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

d) Jerkstore

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

Undancing Husbands & the Zoo Booze Funzone!

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

Call it what you want. I guess B is a sentimental favorite.

Any chance you could YSI the remix? I don't know what I did with it.

xpost: Or that!

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

ok need more pics of shi tzus.

http://www.demoorsemhoeve.be/Fotos/FGB%20Tapsy%20shi%20tzu%2001.jpg

this one has a basket.

http://static.flickr.com/49/144476580_a8d2de75df.jpg

this one has a ball.

http://www.hundetrend.de/billyklein.jpg

this one has a visor.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

I think the Undancing Husbands is my personal fave right this second.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i vote Undancing Husbands.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

GO HERE NOW

http://www.jowlers.com/

GO THERE NOW

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

gross

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

why are we not on there? Or anywhere, like we requested?

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

How about B Is A Sentimental Favorite?

Didn't you give it a name when you made the first MP3s, or were those just song titles?

― Eazy, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

I called the band FUNZONE! as a placeholder. But we can use that. I don't really care.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

Chicago Manpile Association

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

HI I AM IN MY SECOND TO LAST CLASS IN LAW SCHOOL EVER.

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

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― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

OK OK OK the remix AND my Steely Dan cover are both on the blog for downloading.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

zombie Jenny!

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

the NEW blog that is

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

My Flickr Uploadr is not recognizing my internet connection, which is annoying. How to fix?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41894171796@N01/?saved=1

More pictures there.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

AHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHA

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

jeff looks like something excruciatingly awesome is going on

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

that should go on the wdyll thread

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

lol

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/207/474741136_7ed971a7e3.jpg?v=0http://farm1.static.flickr.com/229/474741106_ec4a64337c.jpg?v=0
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/217/474741070_e26a0e212e.jpg?v=0

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

Courtney will not be happy about this, but she's in NC, so she can't stop me.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/231/474741062_de0be5b650.jpg?v=0

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

i think me and kenan are going out for teh beerz at my local after work if anyone else wants to join in the reindeer games.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

tuman's, that is.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

jeff looks like something excruciatingly awesome is going on

Yeah, either that or he's headbanging.

xposts I'm in, though I already told Kenan this.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

I miss you all soooooo much!

I think Dan said he'd drop by, too.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

Hmmm what time are you guys going to be at Tuman's?

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

I am going to ||0yd's for (i hope) free booze at around 4 or so. Then we will be meeting Jenny for more booze somewhere. Maybe our paths will cross.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

Sayjal's pic needs "Stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself..." for a caption.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

i figure i'll be there around 6-ish but that's dependant on the cta so anywhere from 5:50 to 7:30.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

OMG LIQUID JOWLING!

http://www.jowlers.com/jowlers/site/12/12/4581.jpg

that's my fist in the picture

fisttrap

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

me: you should have told her your IUD tickled

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

All of these photos are mindblowing. I don't understand them at all.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, either that or he's headbanging.

Yeah, Jenny, Dan, and Kenan need to start a band just so that first photo will appear in newspapers.

<ass>W.W.J.D.</ass>

― Eazy, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

i will be there by 6, barring unforseen work catastrophe, and probably even then.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

That is so Jeff and not me, although I appreciate the thought.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

crap, i need to go home first. i went to charge my phone and realized i have my charger but no phone with me. but it's only 3 blocks from my place so i won't be delayed long.


idiot.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

My fake tooth is not fun. Being that it is fake, there is no sensation. No likey.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

I have a meeting in Logan's Square at 6 pm, on Troy and... Diversey, I think? Where is that in relation to Tuman's?

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

Most awesomest!

http://www.jowlers.com/jowlers/site/0/0/461.jpg

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

haha

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

I have a meeting in Logan's Square at 6 pm, on Troy and... Diversey, I think? Where is that in relation to Tuman's?

That is one block from my house!!!

(Tuman's is at Chicago/Leavitt)

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

jenny it would be 20 blocks north and... i dunno about 6 blocks west? you'd be close to small bar though. like a block away.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

dan seems to have taken up residence at small bar logan square.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

It looks soooo retarded

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

jowltrap

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

pffft Small Bar is three blocks away, maaaan.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

<ass>NSFW</ass>

― Eazy, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, 26 blocks is enough to make me just go north east and find Jesse when the meeting is over.

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

Now I'm back to not knowing whether to go to the meeting or just go right for the drinking.

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

oh wow, this show is gonna kick ass:

SAT 5/12/2007
DOORS @ 9:00 PM | SHOW @ 10:00 PM | 18 & OVER
TICKETS: $10.00
THE PONYS
TIMES NEW VIKING
SCREAMING YELLOW ZONKERS

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

jenny, when in doubt go right to the drinking.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

So. What did I miss today?

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

Frank Sinatra thinks women smell like seals. Not much else.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

Snack foods, Jesse got a fake tooth, I describe my river dog in detail.

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

Where is that Ponys/Times New Viking show? That sounds pretty cheap, considering! Although I don't really like either of them. (Ponys have definitely improved on their new album from what I heard three years ago, but the TNV song that Nick put on the Q1 mix was pretty unlistenable.)

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

I got a fake toof and a fucking ticket.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

sub-t.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

syz is the reason to go.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

That'll sell out fer sure.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

I'm serious, what is going on in those pictures? Is there a industrial-strength fan in the background somewhere?

http://img.engadget.com/common/images/3060000000058568.JPG?0.466539582001809

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

Click on the jowler link Jesse posted above and all will become clear.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

Suppose a water dog comes down the tracks and sees you; what's he going to say about you, land dog?

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

Leslie took my water bottle and filled it with wine and is drinking the wine and now I'm thirsty because I don't have any water.

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

Or wine.

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

The Good Emily absolved me from going to the meeting. This might change everything.

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

john: you loosen up your jowls and shake your head like a maniac while someone takes a flash photo of you.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

unless you're jeff, in which case you clench your teeth like you're passing a turd sideways.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

Jeff also looks like he's wearing a toupee. What bar is that?

I wish I could join you guys for drinxxxx tonight, but I have a dinner date. I'm still in for Sunday, though, and we should probably pick someplace soon so that we can tell Quincie.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

stifled in class LOLZ @ Kevin.

So I guess they aren't really LOLZ, now are they?

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

LOQZ

I'm going to go shopping at Permanent Rex after work, maybe I should get some drinxxx.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

What bar is that?

it's across from Piper's Alley, kinda indistinct. You do not need to go there before you die.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

LD-L

― Eazy, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

The Old Town Ale House?

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

I used to go there after improv shows at Second City, and also once after Nick and Sarah and Renee and I saw I Heart Huckabees.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

They do have $5 chicken sandwiches sometimes, though. xp - not Old Town, but further... west? on North Ave. It's a sports bar. Pretty nondescript, just like Kenan said.

Where is PR, JVC? Where are you going for drinkxxxx?

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

No, it's further east than Old Town... kind of a sports bar.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

further WEST, jenny otm

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

Oh okay, cuz I was gonna say, Old Town Ale House has lotsa character.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

"lotsa" seems like something Dr. Morbius would say.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

further WEST, jenny otm

OMG That NEVER happens! GO ME.

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

PR is on Chicago, between Wood and Damen. No plans for drinxxx yet, but I want to meet some CHIlxors one of these days.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

JEFF JESSE AMANDA SARAH LOOK I WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE DIRECTION!

xp - yeah, you do. Come to my party!

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

Dude JVC, that's near where Tuman's is, which is where at least some of us will be.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

I'm hungry.

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

i'm gassy.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

I thought Tuman's was near there. Will you still be drinxxing around 7:30ish?

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

I would say the chances are very good we will, yes.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

I WILL BE THERE AT 7:30ISH I'M SURE.

uh, jenny stifled in class lolz at what?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

Oh. Sorry. I was laughing at Kenan. Two letters off.

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

IS JENNY COMING TO TUMANS!?!?!?

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know why I yelled that.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe if we all wish REALLY HARD at the same time.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

No. If Tuman's were next to where my meeting is, I'd go to my meeting and then go to Tuman's. But since it's far, far away, I am just going to have free beerz with Jesse and Leslie and Jen (a school chum that NONE OF YOU KNOW ABOUT) at Ll0yds Ll0yds Null and V0ids.

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

I want to go to a bar to watch the Bulls game tonight.

― Jeff, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

I hope I easily recognize you guys. I don't wanna walk into Tuman's all, HELLO I AM FROM THE INTERNETS LUV ME PLZ.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

Number of times westsiderz have gone north for FUNZONE: lots
Number of times northsiderz have come southwest for FUNZONE: 0?

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

(jus' sayin')

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

oh snap

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

And I think jaymc might be exempt. OK, it's all falling apart now.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

JVC, I will be carrying a copy of Pride & Prejudice and a red rose.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

jon, you know what we look like, right? Just waltz on in.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

And remember: there are very few situations that cannot be improved by a blowjob.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

You should all just wear your matching sweatpants.

<ass>
CHILXOR 4 LYFE
</ass>

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

hope I easily recognize you guys. I don't wanna walk into Tuman's all, HELLO I AM FROM THE INTERNETS LUV ME PLZ.


ask the bar tender for kevin, if he says which one say skinny guy, glasses. they'll point you in the right direction.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah and I MAY or MAY NOT show up. Sarah is sick again though, so we'll see.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

I have been to the West Side for funzone plenty!

jon, you know what we look like, right?

Bring that photo posted above.

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

I 'spose there was that time LAST SUMMER where we met up at Quenchers.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

MAN those photos are larf city.
I would looooove to meet you guys tonight but I have to go to an awards ceremony for work.

UPSIDE: I get to wear a dress
DOWNSIDE: Awards banquet for work

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

wait, remember when we had TT at small bar wicker park? or last week when we went to the green eye? or last night at mac's? there were plenty of no- OH THAT'S RIGHT.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

You're turning into Mayor May Not when it comes to going out drinking, Nick!

― Eazy, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

I thought we were going to go to free beer land and then Tuman's but what do I know.

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

I have an exclusive contract with Old Timer's.

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, and that place with the tacos. MMM.

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

Half price tacos, that is.

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

Dude, most of the time when I don't come to TT, it's because I have band practice or other plans. Location rarely factors into it.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

I WANT A TACO FOR MY FACE HOLE.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

And I think jaymc might be exempt. OK, it's all falling apart now.

-- dan m, Friday, April 27, 2007 2:46 PM (13 minutes ago)

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

I WANT A FACE FOR MY TACO HOLE.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

I love giving you guys shit about this.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

We never go drinking south of 95th.

― Jeff, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

I have come to like three TTs total, so it's not like anyone expects me to show up. It's usually a combination of
-have to work on something work-related
-too far from home

I am clearly not the target audience for TT.

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

yeah i'm just busting stones, it's all cool. kenan's been to my local before, john was at the green eye, la lechera rarely comes out regardless of where we go.

where's horseshoe these days? that's a west-sider who never comes out either.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

listen up y'all -- in two short weeks i will join you much more frequently as i will be on [cough] vacation. sort of. classes will be over. i will still have loads of work to do, but i don't have to stand in front of people and talk all day.

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

HUGGLEZ TO ALL REGARDLESS OF SIDE

I'd go down to 95th for beerz.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

no wai fuck the south side THIS MEANS WAR

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

There's a war going on between my stomach and my pants.

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone?

Pullman's Pub

611 E. 113th St.
773-568-0264

A classic Chicago pub built of brick and glass block, Pullman's Pub has been quenching blue-collar thirsts since the 1920s. It is trim, tidy and simple, with a basic beer selection (Old Style, Bud etc.) and ready supply of snacks and pizza. Diversions include pool and darts, along with televised sports. The White Sox are the clientele's team of choice during baseball season. The staff is small-town friendly, and patrons reflect the neighborhood's diversity. The interior of Pullman's Pub was also featured in the film "The Fugitive." Harrison Ford can be seen using the bar's corner pay phone before he hurries out the door and down the alley in pursuit of the infamous "one-armed man."

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

http://web.syr.edu/~rlriefle/Civil%20War%20Battle.jpg

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

Uh...

Big Chub Lounge

718 W. 119th St.
312-785-4328

While their sons, daughters, nieces, nephews and younger friends gather across the street at Butler's, this area's older crowd congregates at the smallish Big Chub Lounge. All the regulars here are on a first-name basis, but still willing to meet and mingle with new faces. Adolf the owner is always around, chilling with his friends. For this economically depressed Far South Side residential area, Big Chub's and Butler's are two of the places to drown sorrows in liquor and conversation with friends.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

i'm gonna beg off as anything south of 95th street would require me transferring to a pace bus and they run sporadically and not always late enough to serve my needs.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

Pullman's sounds aight.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

Crowbar

4001 E. 106th St.
773-768-6985

This long-established workingman's bar should not be confused with Crobar, the alternative dance club at 1543 N. Kingsbury, famous for its weekly leather night. It happens, though. "We get calls here all the time, people wanting to know what kind of music we play, wanting to know if there's a party," says owner Nancy Carroll. "We think they want to rent our banquet hall." Nancy and husband Patrick became so annoyed by the confusion that in late 1997 they successfully sued the owners of Crobar, seeking financial restitution due to damaged reputation and loss of catering business. They also forced the Near North Side club to change its name (it became "1543"). The main amusements at Crowbar are playing the lottery and watching baseball on the TV above the bar. Lots of union bumper stickers on the cars and trucks parked outside.

Hours: 10 a.m.-2 a.m. Monday through Sunday

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

Stick with what you started with.

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

is the sexty sex lounge anywhere in that refernce source john?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

Jesus, what's next - Springfield?

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

No way would I go that far for a beer. That's like taking a vacation and I would rather get a little further away from home if I'm going on vacation.

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

Fantasy Show Lounge

9942 S. Torrance Ave.
773-721-7964

This venue is owned by Hays Harris, Koko Taylor's husband, and has been a way station for music industry heavyweights (including Ike Turner and Little Milton) who come to visit when they're in town. The location, in a blue-collar stretch of the Far South Side, across from the Skyway Bowl and tucked alongside the steel mills, contributes to the atmosphere. There's no longer a blues jam session here, or any live music, but a huge mural with the name "Koko" in it hauntingly overlooks the stage. This friendly venue often has free home-cooked food within a few steps of the circular bar, and there's a general feeling of community.

Hours: 1 p.m.-2 a.m. seven days a week

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

Sexty Sex Lounge

6601 S. Western Ave.

A middle-age dance club with a lively and friendly crowd, Sexty Sex is a modest, cramped neighborhood bar turned party scene. On weekends a DJ plays contemporary R&B mixed with '70s soul and R&B. During the week the jukebox picks up the slack. Don't come here unless you are in the mood to dance and socialize.

Hours: 10 a.m.-2 a.m. Monday through Thursday; 10 a.m.-3 a.m. Friday and Saturday; noon-10 p.m. Sunday

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

AWESOME, THANKS.


where'd you find this?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

I dunno. Jeff&Jenny, did you find any fun bars in Springfield?

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

Metromix.

There's a place on 134th (with no description) called MUGS BUNNY.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

Bob's Lounge

10701 S. State St.
773-785-5676

Located in the midst of a residential area, Bob's is the ultimate neighborhood hangout. As the deejay spins a variety of R&B, 1970s and pop music, old friends mingle, chat, drink and play darts or card games. "Everybody knows everybody, and it's been like that forever," explains bartender Mary MacDonald. If you wish to test your spades or bid whist skills, Bob's is the place. Bring your best game, as some of the bar's regulars have been playing for as long as 50 years.

Hours: Noon-11 p.m. seven days a week

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

You're turning into Mayor May Not when it comes to going out drinking, Nick!

-- Eazy, Friday, April 27, 2007 2:58 PM (24 minutes ago)

Oh yeah, well you're turning into Mayor Never Comes and Hangs Out Anymore.

― n/a, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

OK, these all sort of sound the same after a while.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

Jeff&Jenny, did you find any fun bars in Springfield?

Nope.

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Hey Eric, speaking of Mayor May Not, are you coming to the Cottage this year? Because I think you're the only one who hasn't paid yet.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Big ups to my boss for letting us out at 3:30! See you suckers in beerville.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

woa. You lucked out.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sort of envious of people who get to leave early, whether it's being sent home or just choosing to go. I have to work at least 40 hours every week because there's always more work to do, backlog to tackle, etc., and I have to account for my time.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

one of my assignments from last week was to roll up a report for washington where we had to report IN INCHES how back-logged the medical centers were in one particular area. as in, how thick is that stack of claims?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

Oh shit, I'm coming to the cottage, not coming to drink tonight, sorry Nick too.

― Eazy, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

Paper claims are so last century.

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

the cottage?

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

GO HIPAA GO

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

I'm coming cottage cheese.

The 'nasta-related folks are doing a little weekend.

― Eazy, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

not hipaa, 3rd party billing.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

That's the most disgusting thing I've ever heard you say, Eric!

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

I know, I know, terrible, terrible.

― Eazy, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

John on the debit card. (OTDC)

There isn't any possible scenario that I could leave early without taking PTO or some sort of disaster scenario.

― Jeff, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

ew, you and jaymc both stop telling us about your unfortunately textured ejaculate.

have fun at the cottage, tho.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

No, but electronic claims are all HIPAAed up, aren't they?

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

Word. The cottage is pretty fun. I don't remember who's taking checks, it's either Matt or EL.

xpost I have unfortunately textured ejaculate?

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

Not third party billing, integrated billing software

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

Jeff OTM. All my early leavings are PTO. The boss hasn't let us leave early since NYE '04. For some reason he gets all fired up on Fridays and likes to work late, pretty much the opposite of most humans.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

PTO? HIPAA?
OTM? COTTAGE?

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

Do not want to go to banquet.

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

I can leave early if I come in super early or sneak out, but I have to account for my time as well.

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

BUKKOTTAGE?

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.thegamebws.com/pics/thegame/part1.jpg

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

<ass>
PTO? HIPAA?
OTM? COTTAGE?
</ass>

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

I have a shirt that uses that exact font, and it says, "I'm grumpy because you're dopey." It's from The Disney Store.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

http://shop.siccness.net/images/GAME.jpg

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

dan, i know you left already but i may not remember this later; the hockey player i couldn't think of last night is sergei samsonov. 8th overall pick of the 1997 draft.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.jnpp.ee/dvd/Pildid/DVD%2520PILDID/Game.JPG

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

pretty much the opposite of most humans.

maybe...

he's not human.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

poor normand leveille.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

I'm eating a pear! I haven't done this in a long time. It's good.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

At least Normand had 17 more NHL goals than I'll ever have!

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

Why have I never heard of the Chicoutimi Saguenéens before?

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

I ask myself that very question every morning.

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

there is not nearly enough friday afternoon dicking around on ilx today, not for my tastes.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

Amanda, that's impossible, because you would've heard of the Chicoutimi Saguenéens at least the day before, when you asked yourself why you hadn't heard of the Chicoutimi Saguenéens.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b6/Sparks_DA.jpg

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

I have a memory disorder.

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

Why do you think I enjoy talking about boobs every three weeks on ILX?

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

normand also had a stroke at 19 that cut short a promising career.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

I don't mind that my ancient work computer is slow sometimes, I mind that whenever Firefox takes too long, the OS automatically switches over to a different program. I'd prefer to wait, thanks, not have to click back from Outlook all the time. :/

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

I wasn't trying to make light of the stroke, moreso looking for the silver lining.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

xxpost but alas, he played hockey, so no one noticed.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

ah. well yes then.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

norm leveille is a folk hero in boston.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

him and ray borque were gonna be the cornerstones of the franchise for the next 20 years. they were half right.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Aaaaaaaaaaaaand law school for Jenny is...

OVAH.

Holy shit.

― Jenny, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

why would I have heard of norm leveille?

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

What's the difference between "sparkling water" and "club soda"?

XP

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAH JENNY

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

Holy shit!

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

CONGRATS JENNY! WOO!

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

JENNY MONEYPENNY IS A LAWYERER

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

YI{PPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
0_o

― KitCat, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

WHOOOO HOOOO!!!!!!

to celebrate let's all go out and get arrested then blow up jenny's cell phone sometime around last call!

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

goddamn you work banquet

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

JENNY YOU DA LAWYER NOW, DAWG

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

Does this mean that we have to call you Jennifer?

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7431/jasper4od.gif

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

jenny, i have a labor question for you. i'm looking to exploit some workers and am unsure about how to go about this. could you help me with that?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

Also I have just been soundly outvoted on most points of household law & upkeep by my roommates. :( I am angry to have lost on all fronts, and sad that my life will now be even more affected by the priorities of others than it already is. It reminds me of so bad situations and I'm feeling powerless, de-agented, even though I'm trying not to let the past get to my present.

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

What you talkin' bout, lady?

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

They don't want to pick up their undies from the kitchen floor o que?

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

They don't want to pick up YOUR undies from the kitchen floor??!

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

they are making laurel be a non-smoking neat freak, which is rather against her nature

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

Hahah. Yes, Kevin has it in two.

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

I'M GLAD I GOT TO SMOKE ALL THESE CIGARETTES IN THAT APARTMENT WHILE I COULD.

although now that i think about it, george smoked more of my cigarettes in there than i did and he doesn't even smoke.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

god why won't this fucking day end? 25 more minutes, just 25 more minutes...

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

It's hard to be in the debating position of arguing for LESS cleanliness, you know? Because it's almost a moral/guilt issue, that things should be as clean as you can humanly make & keep them even if you don't hit what you aim for, but I hate being on that particular treadmill. I spent a long time hating being powerless at my parent's house, then had some weird situations in college, and my house is not ME. No one wants to live in filth obv but standards being different doesn't mean, to me, that the person with the highest standards get the high ground automatically.

George is trying

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

Asking you not to smoke in the apartment, though, seems pretty reasonable to me.

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

also, i just bought $25 worth of records. including 1st 100 copies on white vinyl with endangered animal fur sleeve, 400 on
black vinyl with stock sleeve <--- that.

and a repress of an album that has that song from that 7" i found the other day for a hundred twenty five bucks or whatever it was. only 15 for the reissue!

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

George is trying


there are two ways to read this.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/217/474910621_b4e1e39256.jpg%3Fv%3D0

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry, G is trying to QUIT smoking, which is why I can't even sit on the windowsill and hold my arm outside anymore, because it makes him want one.

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

Did that show up?

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

Not for me?

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

laurel, really, it's better this way, and things will level out. I have had the opposite problem on occasion, living with people who were very messy, which made me think, well fuck it, I'm not cleaning up *two* messes. And soon enough I wasn't even cleaning up one mess. It brought me down to their level, and it was depressio. So it's better the way you got it. Because nobody wants to live in filth.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

lawyer cat

I don't know why my links to my flickr photos aren't showing up. That's half the reason I have flickr.

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I'm outta here. Time to whoop it up SAC-style.
Congrats, Jenny
Sorry about the anti-filth, Laurel
The rest of you: don;t get into too much trouble

― La Lechera, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

laurel, move in with ian.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

No, the problem is that NO ONE is really going to live up to the "rules" but as long as they're willing to pretend that those rules are the reality, I'll be the only one who thought they were dumb in the first place and I hate being pressured about it. Also, I think we're going to find that some people's idea of cleaning the bathroom is wiping things off, whereas mine involves total overhaul. I'll have to wait and see on that front.

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

beat 'em at their own game laurel! power to the people! don't let the bastards keep you down! etc. etc.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

from now on i'm referring to your room mate as negative t, or -t for short.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

although i kind of want to buy that painting she has in the living room. the heroin pizza party or whatever it was.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

ok, the bus doesn't come for another 15 minutes but i can't sit at this desk anymore. i'm out of here. hope you all have good weekends. congratulations to those with something to celebrate, buck up to those who are feeling down.

love you all.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

Well, whatever, wiping down the counter and stove top is every-day stuff, I'm talking about hands-and-knees floor scrubbing, oven cleaning, prying dried food out of the cracks with a paring knife...that stuff. The pantry shelves are covered in a layer of cooking grease & dust, I'm tackling those first.

Bye, Kevin!

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

i will text you 2nite laurel, expect it.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

I may get to leave early on occasion, but I would hazard a guess that I have the lowest salary of anyone with full-time work on this thread. Also, I busted ass today to get my work and the work of a vacationing coworker done. Also also: academia, bitches. Feel it.

― dan m, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to do some epic cleaning tomorrow. I'm kinda looking forward to it.

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i love doing that. I get in the mood once every couple of months, and I know that when that mood comes along, I have to SEIZE IT.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.itsmaid2perfection.com/

― Jeff, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

and then when I'm done I light up a smoke and collapse into the sofa and say to myself, "You're such a good boy!"

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

Hahah! See, I can't even do that anymore. :)

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

:(

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

Ha, exactly. I've been living a little disgracefully, too busy to clean on the weeknights and going out of town on the weekends while the cats destroy things, but ON APRIL 28TH A LINE WILL BE DRAWN.

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

tag line for a new movie?

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

alright shitbirds, i'm outta here.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sorry, I didn't mean that. You aren't shitbirds. I don't even know what a shitbird is.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/7/7f/250px-The_Wire_Carver.jpg

― Jordan, Friday, 27 April 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

YAY JENNY!
I am so hungry.I had the best pizza earlier this week. It had sweet sausage, rosemary, and onion marmalade. I want it again now.
My coworker/friend is moving to Logan Square very soon, so I am going to help/visit her a lot. Yay.

― jocelyn, Friday, 27 April 2007 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

Bulls win.

― Jeff, Saturday, 28 April 2007 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

Onion marmalade? KOOKY.

I'm drunk! Wheeee!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/167/475191260_f346a2d125_o.jpg

― Jenny, Saturday, 28 April 2007 04:09 (eighteen years ago)

Congratulations! Who got punched in the face?

― dan m, Saturday, 28 April 2007 04:37 (eighteen years ago)

Congrats Jenny.

I missed out on Tuman's tonight. Stuck at work until 7, then nearly two hours on the goddamn Edens. I was not ready for drinxxx by that point. Next time.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Saturday, 28 April 2007 05:44 (eighteen years ago)

that was fun. my cabbie didn't want to charge mefor my fare because i [had] "the music in me". it was absolutely insane and awesome. i think i gave him $20 for an 11 dollar ride. he deserved it.

fucked up.

― chicago kevin, Saturday, 28 April 2007 09:11 (eighteen years ago)

also, i shouldn't go out unsupervised.

― chicago kevin, Saturday, 28 April 2007 09:12 (eighteen years ago)

She's not bad.

― Jenny, Saturday, 28 April 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

1.
I'm coming cottage cheese.

The 'nasta-related folks are doing a little weekend.

-- Eazy, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:43 (Yesterday)

I once read an erotic story in which a guy's cum was referred to as "curds."

2. Sparkling water occurs naturally. Club soda has sodium bicarbonate in it.

3. I punched Jenny in the mouth and I still feel TERRIBLE about it. I was telling a joke about violence against women and then next thing I knew, I was socking Jenny in the mouth. It made an awful sound.

4. When I was working in New Orleans I invariably and by choice stayed late on Fridays. For me working late on a Friday is not so bad.

― Jesse, Saturday, 28 April 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

I can foresee a day when I will have a job that I like so much that I won't mind working late on Fridays. SO EXCITED YOU GUYS.

Also, Jeff and I have been searching FOREVS for two narrow bedside tables so he can have his own light and his own alarm clock and I think these will do the trick nicely. I'll have to paint them (I have an intense aversion to white furniture) but that's pretty easy to do since they come already in pieces.

I then have an amazing plan to convert our existing bedside table into an entrance table/charging station like so.

See, what is happening here is that I need to finish two take home exams so instead I am turning all my energy and attention to solving a few pesky household challenges that have plagued us since we moved into this apartment.

OH and I got my BPAL order and it is delicious. I think I'm going to get a big bottle of Lady of Shalott.

― Jenny, Saturday, 28 April 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

Also, it is okay about the mouth punching, Jesse. I know that you only did it because you love me.

― Jenny, Saturday, 28 April 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

I want to go to Ikea.

― Jenny, Saturday, 28 April 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

I just don't understand why people listen to music out loud in a computer lab. And talk loudly, as if they were at home.

― Jeff, Saturday, 28 April 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)

buckwheat waffles motherfuckers

― Jordan, Saturday, 28 April 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

I just achieved another law school milestone: I cashed in some of my West Law points for a leak-proof travel Thermos. Now if I can rack of 1000 more points before they deactivate my account, I can also get a 1 gig USB drive.

― Jenny, Saturday, 28 April 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

ugh, kenan, why did we go to three bars last night? weren't we drunk enough after the first one?

― chicago kevin, Saturday, 28 April 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

1,000,000 law points = get out of jail free??

― Jordan, Saturday, 28 April 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

I'll hold on to that card.

― Jeff, Saturday, 28 April 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

I just realized that every time I put R. Kelly on every time I clean the apartment.

― Jordan, Saturday, 28 April 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, every time I happen to clean, I end up listening to R. Kelly, not the reverse. If that were true I would clean way more often.

― Jordan, Saturday, 28 April 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

CONGRATULATIONS, JENNY!!!!!!

― horseshoe, Saturday, 28 April 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

ugh, kenan, why did we go to three bars last night? weren't we drunk enough after the first one?

Define "enough."

I still say you could have gone home with a vapid, pretty blonde last night. Dude, they followed us to another bar! Hello, signals!

Downside: they were a little annoying.

Oh, and YAYYYYYY JENNY!

― kenan, Saturday, 28 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

I ate at Hot Doug's today and fell off my new bike. over the handlebars and everything. it was embarrassing, but definitely a lively way to break her in.

― sisut, Saturday, 28 April 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

What did you get?

― Jeff, Saturday, 28 April 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

Is anyone doing anything tonight (that, um, could involve Nick and I)?*









* (not sexually)

― n/a, Saturday, 28 April 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah posting under Nick's login, obv.

― n/a, Saturday, 28 April 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

And sorry I didn't make it to Tumnnnnns. I wanted to finish reading The Accidental. Then I wanted to sit around doing nothing.

― n/a, Saturday, 28 April 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

Was that good, Nick?

― Jordan, Saturday, 28 April 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

IT IS SARAH!!! Yes, I enjoyed it. I was kind of annoyed at the writing style at first, but it was a very quick read (2 days for me, and I'm a kind of slow reader) and worth those 2 days.

― n/a, Saturday, 28 April 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, how I love melancholy dance music.

― Jeff, Sunday, 29 April 2007 00:32 (eighteen years ago)

Yawn. What's happening?

― dan m, Sunday, 29 April 2007 02:59 (eighteen years ago)

Dear kenan,

RE: kompakt DVD

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!
This is like having someone you've never met giving you a giant sack of gold doubloons. I owe you things, big things. I was just looking at getting some older The Field 12", but this, THIS is just amazing. A huge thank you -- this is just ridiculously awesome.

― mattttt, Sunday, 29 April 2007 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

Whoa is it really 10:30? Well... I guess that means we're chilling in tonight.

I can't believe it go so late so quickly! Weird.

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 03:22 (eighteen years ago)

I went to the Dr|ftw00d because it's Sat. night and my crush boy Keith sometimes works Saturdays, but alas, he wasn't there. So my friends from work and I drank beers and shots and now I'm home eating yummy food from Mr. Salsa right next door.

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 07:41 (eighteen years ago)

JENNY

Don't go to Ikea without me. You guys and Courtney and I will go and split an iGo. I need some shit.

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 07:43 (eighteen years ago)

They're not gonna get us, not now. I love you. They don't understand us.

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 07:58 (eighteen years ago)

NOT GONNA GET UUUUUUUSSS

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 07:59 (eighteen years ago)

I'm listening to Tatu's cover of "How Soon Is Now?" and it's OK.

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 07:59 (eighteen years ago)

I AM HUMAN AND I NEED TO BE FUCKED JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE DOES

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 08:00 (eighteen years ago)

I burned my hands on fireworks tonight.

Tequila + bottle rockets = funn

― dan m, Sunday, 29 April 2007 08:16 (eighteen years ago)

Good morning Chicago! I am on my way to you this afternoon. Not sure when/if I'll be back online, but Kevin has my # so pls to call/text if meetup shall take place. I'm out of class at 7 and know how to hail a cab.

Also, will someone pls expain to me "Evanston Express" and how I get on it Monday night.

― quincie, Sunday, 29 April 2007 13:07 (eighteen years ago)

That's the Purple Line. Where are you going from and to? You can catch it anywhere in the Loop and all the stops north to Belmont, at which point it runs express to Evanston.

http://yourcta.com/maps/maps/2007N.html

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

This is like having someone you've never met giving you a giant sack of gold doubloons.

No wai. If I gave you a sack of gold, then I would be short one sack of gold.

But you're very welcome. I have the same DVD for Jeff in my bag.

― kenan, Sunday, 29 April 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

It runs only limited hours. http://yourcta.com/maps/rail/purple/Howard.pdf

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

I have a large grocery bag full of Indiana fireworks. Let's shoot them off sometime. Where does one do that in the city?

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

Where are you going tonight and what time are you going there?

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know if I will be able to make it to hang with Mrs. Q, but I am interested so plz someone text or call me and let me know what is going on.

― dan m, Sunday, 29 April 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

I vote for somewhere we can sit outside.

― KitCat, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

Ditto. It's beautiful out there.

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

Where's Q staying? Somewhere Rush St. or Old Town or something?

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

lol @ drunk me, staying up until all hours watching Farscape reruns and "Operation Condor".

― Jordan, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

Put the word "near" or "around" or "on" in that last sentence I wrote so that it makes sense. kthxbi.

I'm going to go take my bike to the bike shop and get hollered at for leaving it outside all winter, but then I'll be around for the plannin'.

xp - haha Farscape yr a nerd.

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

I hadn't seen it for years, who knew that Fox shows it at 2 am?

(yes i am hueg nerd)

― Jordan, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

I work tonight. Work is ruining my life.

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

I am conflicted. I have a bike and I love it, but it is not super practical. Here is a pic:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/64/153409387_375da612e5_m.jpg

It has a short wheelbase, is quite heavy, has tall gearing and weak brakes. It's slow and not confidence-inspiring on the streets. The only thing it really has going for it is it looks cool.

The conflict is: do I keep it and not ride as much as I would another more practical bike, or sell it to some bike nerd for a decent chunk of money (maybe? I have no idea if this is realistic) and buy something bigger/faster/shinier? I really do think I would ride a lot more if I had something that worked a little better on city streets. I suppose I could have two bikes but I don't really need more stuff. Where is gbx? I need advice on this.

― dan m, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

Sell it and get a better bike. Ask Kenan, he'll tell you.

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

I saw another cute cheap apartment the other day. Right smack in the middle of Boystown, a large studio, very new, $500 a month. How do people get these fucking deals??

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

bikes are awesome.

I would also like to sit outside. I imagine that on a day like this, that will not be a problem.

What time are we thinking?

― kenan, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

Hey y'all. I'm quincie's lesser half. She probably won't be online any time soon, but she's done with her work at 7, and Kevin has her number. I can always give it to someone else as well. Hope all is well in Chicago. It is lovely here in our nation's capital.

― Mr. Que, Sunday, 29 April 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

My Stupid Neighbors

by Jesse Kehr

Why they gotta take over my side of the fucking fire escape when they have a large porch of their own? This douchebag has strung up a clothesline on which he is drying his boxers. Meanwhile I'm inside wanting to lounge in a state of undress while enjoying a little natural light and breeze, but I gotta close the curtains because they're outside of my window, sitting and watching his underwear dry. Fuck them.

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

shit. mod request to remove my name.

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

Oh come on, we already know what your name is.

― dan m, Sunday, 29 April 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.yelp.com/biz/OoKD3MWWADD6-yj59SRuMg

I'm house/cat sitting in Rogers Park. I'm heading outside.

― Eazy, Sunday, 29 April 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

HA HA!!

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

Buy my shit on ebay

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZgregorsamsa7QQhtZ-1

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

What's the point of having a bike is you don't ride it? Sell that weird looking thing and get something that is a joy to ride. It doesn't have to be super shiny and new but it should at least be useful.

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

Give me those green boots.

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

Really? But I've already listed them!

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, why are all your flickrs down all of a sudden?

― Casuistry, Sunday, 29 April 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

Or are they just down for me? : /

― Casuistry, Sunday, 29 April 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

hey kids, i just a gmail but i'm sure i forgot some of you so i figure i'll post something here too re: FAP w/quincie. i think she's somewhere around the mag mile? where do you guys wanna go and what time? i'm gonna be stepping out for a little bit in a few minutes so either email me or txt me or whatever.


I still say you could have gone home with a vapid, pretty blonde last night. Dude, they followed us to another bar! Hello, signals!

where did those girls come from? were they at the holiday club? i seem to remember a camera and perhaps some pictures. wtf? also i think they were interested in more beer than anything else.

― chicago kevin, Sunday, 29 April 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

Oh dear. No flickrs? WTF.

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

Uh did your lookalike get your account deleted?

― Casuistry, Sunday, 29 April 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

I think his lookalike got all his photos flagged as inappropriate.

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

I'm investigating bars near the Mag Mile. How about ESPN Zone?

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

Hooters on Eerie and Wells?

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.yelp.com/biz/t8AvP59-e51uhwc43G9i7w

― dan m, Sunday, 29 April 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

I like Streeter's. Rossi's is pretty a-ok, too - http://www.yelp.com/biz/6QT-YirAXDUyQL0ikTPywQ.

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

Rossi's is awesome. If you're going to Rossi's, I'm quitting my job and joining you.

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

Damn it, we're working opposite each other via email and ILX.

I voted: Hungry Brain, Village Tap or (long-shot) Happy Village. With Hungry Brain as my #1 pick, since I've never been there, it's reasonably convenient to everyone, and it has a beer garden.

― n/a, Sunday, 29 April 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

Rossi's looks ok but does it have outdoor seating? This is important to me!

― n/a, Sunday, 29 April 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

SOMEONE TXT ME WHEN YOU DECIDE WHERE YR GOING, I NEEDED TO LEAVE MY APARTMENT 8 MINUTES AGO.

― chicago kevin, Sunday, 29 April 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

Nick, I think we need to find a place that is close to Quincie's hotel, which is in the mag mile-esque area.

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

And Kevin didn't include me on the email, so next time somebody replies to all, throw my name in there please?

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

Oh I thought she said she was planning on taking a taxi. Well, looking for a place downtown or in mag mile is going to pretty much eliminate outdoor seating, which makes me sad. Who wants to sit in a dark bar on a day like this?

― n/a, Sunday, 29 April 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

I wouldn't mind it.

― Jeff, Sunday, 29 April 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to pout now.

― n/a, Sunday, 29 April 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

She doesn't get out of her class until seven, so it won't be a day like this for long after we gather.

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

It will be night, and that's when the monsters come out.

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

ALTHOUGH you are correct that the more pleasant bars are to be found outside of the mag mile and surrounding environs.

So whatever. Pick a place and tell me where to go and what time to be there. Tell John, too, since I got a text from him earlier and I don't know if that was just to me or to the whole gang or what.

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

What was that bar we went to with Tim and Bob that time. It was on Western, I think?

― Jeff, Sunday, 29 April 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

They had the giant outdoor area.

― Jeff, Sunday, 29 April 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Of course, that would be no where near the Magnificent Mile.

― Jeff, Sunday, 29 April 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know who Tim and Bob are. I feel bad enforcing my will on everyone, so I'm going to continue being passive-aggressive and wishy-washy until someone else decides something. Sorry guys.

― n/a, Sunday, 29 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

Pippin's, the bar where Jeff got Kravitzed that one time with Pete from DC, has outdoor seating and is close to the Mag Mile area.

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

Hi guys it is me. I am in fact on mag mile but happy to travel for outdoor seating or any other criteria deemed appropriate. Food would be good, as I do not think they will be feeding me. About to leave for class but will check in after.

― quincie, Sunday, 29 April 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

Parking will probably not be easy, though, so if you're going to drive, plan accordingly.

― Jenny, Sunday, 29 April 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/200/477683759_dc5e2742bc.jpg?v=0

― Jeff, Monday, 30 April 2007 03:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/168/477683955_1d51e07cd3.jpg?v=0

― Jeff, Monday, 30 April 2007 03:47 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/207/477682581_4fdc53678b.jpg?v=0

― Jeff, Monday, 30 April 2007 03:47 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/209/477663842_5e01604359.jpg?v=0

― Jeff, Monday, 30 April 2007 03:47 (eighteen years ago)

As you can see, no good came of this night.

― Jeff, Monday, 30 April 2007 04:00 (eighteen years ago)

ok good work you guys

― river wolf, Monday, 30 April 2007 04:01 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/439269400_5cab8ba7a7.jpg?v=0

― river wolf, Monday, 30 April 2007 04:02 (eighteen years ago)

it took almost FIFTY GODDAMN MINUTES for the chicago bus to come. which is unacceptable considering the chicago red line stop is closed for construction.

xpost- ok, that's just creepy.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 04:04 (eighteen years ago)

well yeah duh

― river wolf, Monday, 30 April 2007 04:06 (eighteen years ago)

Why do they even call the train that runs between Fullerton and the Loop during weekend construction the "Red Line"? It's totally the Brown Line, except that it runs clockwise once it reaches the Loop. Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's the Red Line!

― Jesse, Monday, 30 April 2007 04:32 (eighteen years ago)

By the way? SO JEALOUS YOU GUYS.

― Jesse, Monday, 30 April 2007 04:33 (eighteen years ago)

Tacos and Beer. Good Times.

― jocelyn, Monday, 30 April 2007 04:49 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry I missed it, you guys. Was right near there around 7 and then headed north, alas...

FRONT SPLITS METRO AREA: The metro area will sport two weather personalities with E winds and cloudy, cool air to the north and downtown, while sunshine and warm SW flow blanket the south and west. Highs: 50s to 60s north/downtown, mid to upper 80s south and west.

― Eazy, Monday, 30 April 2007 05:03 (eighteen years ago)

We just had a really quick storm. Lots of flashing, booming, wind, and rain, and then--calm.

― Jesse, Monday, 30 April 2007 05:21 (eighteen years ago)

May the godesses of federal grants have mercy on my poor mortal soul. There is a plane bound for Madrid on Friday evening, and I will be on it even if I must stay up for the next 112 hours straight to appease the Department of Health and Human Services.

― sisut, Monday, 30 April 2007 06:08 (eighteen years ago)

It is still stormy on the west side.

― sisut, Monday, 30 April 2007 06:09 (eighteen years ago)

grumble grumble

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 06:32 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, Kevin, we had to wait a while for the bus to come too. Not quite 50 minutes, but it took us an hour to get back to Damen and Chicago, thanks to the bus stopping at EVERY SINGLE STOP.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 12:22 (eighteen years ago)

Hey chilxors thanks for a lovely evening. You are all A#1 ultimate bros, even Kenan who kept trying to get jaymc and me to look at his cock. Also, you take phones in the mouth much better than those NYC wusses.

I believe pretzel walrus will be the next DC ambassador to visit you. Now if anyone wants to phone in a bomb threat to the Intercontinental hotel early this afternoon, that would be ace!

― quincie, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:02 (eighteen years ago)

i was lucky enough to get caught in the rain on my walk up leavitt from chicago to thomas.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:07 (eighteen years ago)

It was nice meeting you too. Sorry we couldn't stay out and rock and roll all night and part of every day.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:07 (eighteen years ago)

last night, that is.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:08 (eighteen years ago)

did my songs eventually come on the jukebox? because seriously, even for streeterville there HAS to be a limit of how much rhcp and srv can be listened to in one bar.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:09 (eighteen years ago)

Nope. Never heard them. I think RHCP were playing when we left.

― Jenny, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:12 (eighteen years ago)

Hey guys, I don't mean to alarm you, but I think maybe that bar sucks. </annoying>

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:12 (eighteen years ago)

although now that i remember it, that scandanavian girl asked me to play a rhcp song and i did so without hesitation.

xpost- mine started with motorhead and then was pretty much every stooges song that i could find.

xxpost- nick has grasped the obvious.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:13 (eighteen years ago)

dang, I missed out on the fun, as I wasn't looking at a computer during most of my trip. however i'm still here up in old town, leaving around 5:00 today. for our apartment search, we didn't like south loop too much so instead settled on a place in wicker park that seemed like a much more fun environment. hopefully it will all work out.

― stingy, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

cool, welcome.

where in wicker park?

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

it's a small street off division, very close to damen.

― stingy, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

it's pretty close to dusty groove, something that was very appealing to me!

― stingy, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

that's close to me, i'm on thomas (one block south of division) and leavitt (two blocks west of damen). dusty groove is cool but the guy who owns it is an a-hole.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

That is close to Sarah and I as well. We are a block north and two blocks west of the Damen/Division intersection. The West Side grows stronger, soon we will totally overpower all debates of where to meet and drink.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

Mwaah hah ha haha.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

That was supposed to be sinister.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

awesome that you guys are all so close by then! i assume everyone is at work now though and can't hang out. we don't know what to do yet today.

― stingy, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

this will only lead to the balkanization of chilx.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

is body worlds still at the museum of science and industry? i'd go to that if i had a day off. it was open 24 hrs this weekend, me and my friend amy were going to go after the show saturday but the show got cancelled and we forgot. my friend todd and his girl amanda went friday night at midnight in hopes of avoiding a bunch of kids but even at midnight he said there were little kids everywhere.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

i think with my gf about to finish med school, she's probably seen enough body insides already, but thanks for the suggestion! we'll probably just do more walking around and shopping.

― stingy, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

are there any good shoe stores either near old town or wicker park?

― stingy, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

I'm about three (four?) blocks south and one block east of Dusty Groove.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:36 (eighteen years ago)

There are some fancy shoe stores up near Damen/Milwaukee/North - Fluevog and the one right at the corner, which I think some punny name involving the word "Sole." For cheaper shoes, there's an Aldo outlet store over by the Division stop, and the creepy place up the street from Reckless.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

I get out of work around mid-afternoon, but I'm probably going to try and work a little extra today because I left early on Thurs and Fri.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

right on, we did stop by Fluevog on Saturday. I really just wanted to get some more New Balance's since mine are over a year old.

― stingy, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, Fluevog is dumb. There's also some crazy "sneaker boutique" on Milwaukee, down the block from Fluevog. There's a New Balance store near like Clark and Belmont I think?

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

The shoe store with the punny name is "City Soles". They have expensive trendy shoes.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:45 (eighteen years ago)

About the only reason to drop by Fluevog is to check out the small selection of concert posters they have for sale. Sometimes some cool stuff in there.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:45 (eighteen years ago)

I guess "City Soles" isn't really a pun.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

Or a very good one, at least.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

maybe i'll stop by aldo then if we're in the area. looks like the stuff there is really cheap.

― stingy, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

Aldo is ok, but they don't really have a tennis shoes selection from what I remember.

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

I like the waitress's expression in the pic of Nick and I.

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

I'm very impressed with y'all Chicago people and the phones.

You are all A#1 ultimate bros, even Kenan who kept trying to get jaymc and me to look at his cock. Also, you take phones in the mouth much better than those NYC wusses.


Kenan: you are a dead man.

― Mr. Que, Monday, 30 April 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

ok, good to know. might have to just wait till later then, unless i make it to the actual new balance location.

i like how all the bars are able to totally remove their windows. i've never seen that kind of thing anywhere. we walked by some place on state street last night that just had an enormous amount of people outside on the porch. it was insane. people really love the warm weather once it comes, i can tell.

― stingy, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

Good observation, stingy.

No offense to Kenan, but I am glad I missed out on that segment of the evening.

Nick and I waited FOR EH VER for a bus. Then Kev walked right by us, despite us yelling his name. Which stop were you going to? Or did you need to hit up McD0nalds first?

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

hey, we're flying out of Midway later, and I'm looking at the train map now. it appears we can take the blue line to clark and then get on the orange line to go to the airport. does this seem correct?

― stingy, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

I DID NO SUCH THING!

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

WTF GUYS!

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

That seems right, stingy. Did you look at the cta tripplanner site?

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

lol Chicago

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

Eat yr phone, Jordan! Everybody's doin' it!

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

I want someone with a camera phone to take a picture from the inside of their mouth.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

i think that would just be dark.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

Hells yeh, what a productive morning!

I woke up at 6:30 and couldn't sleep, so I balanced my checkbook, paid some bills, organized my desk a little bit, walked to Jewel and to Gethsemene Garden Ctr for some herb plants. Nice long walk. Now I'm going to iron and then go to work.

― Jesse, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

this is my image of the day. Enjoy.

http://www.blatherandbosh.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/perseus.jpg

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

ME=Harry Hamlin

YOU=Medusa

― Mr. Que, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

btw: i have no clue wtf is going on with me and making people look at my cock. i sincerely doubt this happened. pants? maybe.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

i do like these pants.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

There's a garden center named after the place where Jesus did his last tortured pleading that the cup of suffering and death be taken from him??>? Chicago is WEIRD.

― Laurel, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

Last time I hung out with Kenan he was wearing what someone (maybe I) dubbed "cock pants" because they were jeans made of a soft material that revealed his winker. He did not make any attempt to show it off though; quite the opposite, in fact.

― Jesse, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

What happens in Chicago stays in Chicago.
What happens in Kenan's pants stays in Kenan's pants.

― Eazy, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

COCKTRAP!

― Jesse, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

I'll eat my phone at the puke party.

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

Most Fluevog shoes are beautiful. I can't afford them, but I can't pretend to be a playa-hater either. When I met J0lie H0lland once, she showed off her Fluevogs and deserved too, they looked great.

― Eazy, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

Gethsemene Garden Center is AMAZING. I love that place. It's HUGE. It takes up MOST of one block, and they put a TON of shit on tall rolling racks on the length of the sidewalk. I could go there just to HANG out.

― Jesse, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

At the Fluevog store on Milwaukee one of the clerks is tranny with really blonde hair and a style that is sort of like 1940s vogue.

― Jesse, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

What happens in Kenan's pants stays in Kenan's pants.

I'm not sure this is true. It was definitely revealed last night that Kenan shaves his legs, though it's still uncertain why he does this.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to go wash it now.

― Jesse, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

Last time I hung out with Kenan he was wearing what someone (maybe I) dubbed "cock pants" because they were jeans made of a soft material that revealed his winker.

They are called "penis pants," get it right.

All pants from H&M fit like this for some reason. I don't mind it a bit. It's like a little athletic support built into your jeans.

It was definitely revealed last night that Kenan shaves his legs

I do not do this with any regularity. Think of it as burning a meadow to promote new growth.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

Then Kev walked right by us, despite us yelling his name. Which stop were you going to? Or did you need to hit up McD0nalds first?


that is EXACTLY what i did. i was so f'ing jealous of jeff's cheeseburger that i got a pair for myself. i didn't hear you call my name. where was i?

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

Ok, this is horrifying. What else did I do last night?

Shit.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

you told me a story you probably shouldn't have.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

Business as usual, then.

― Laurel, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

oh noes.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

also, if I did all this shit, how am I at work and in a perfectly good mood today? Shouldn't I be wrecked?

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

maybe you weren't all that drunk.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

do you guys get VH1 Soul? I had never heard of it until this trip. it looks pretty great. yesterday I saw 2 straight videos where the song was called "knockin' boots" or some variation thereof.

― stingy, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

maybe you weren't all that drunk.

if my pants and the contents therein became an issue, i was drunk.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

knockin' boots

please tell me one was the classic by candyman!


"ooh, boy, i love you so
never ever ever gonna let you go
once i get my hands on you-ooh."

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

Aargh! Why is this not showing on the Chicago PBS stations? Did I just not figure out the schedule right?

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

Did Chicago's vast Mormon population put together a petition?

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

I really want to watch that. ;_;

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

yes, Candyman was one of them! he and his cronies were wearing overalls (and not with one strap off, like was hip in the 90's). the other song was called "knockin' tha boots" i think, not sure of the artist. i also saw this crazy swimming pool video by female MC Antoinette.

― stingy, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

My laptop seems to have died AGAIN. I think I'm on a 1 motherboard/year cycle here. FUCK

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

Everybody, calm down. Kenan wanted to take me and Quincie to the Top of the Cock. Another time, we said, since it was late. Then Kenan and I got into a cab driven by a maniac. He did some usual ranting about Jesus, then, in a complete non-sequitur, yelled, "Name me four Aerosmith songs from the '70s!" I said "Walk This Way," and then turned to Kenan, because he has way more expertise in this area than I do, but I think he was too drunk to think straight, because he just whimpered, "Th-that's ... hard." The cabbie erupted into a demonic laughter and shouted, "You can't do it! I rest my case, I rest my case, I rest my case!" This became a mantra for later topics of conversation as well, and since he seemed to accelerate whenever he yelled "I rest my case!" Kenan had him pull over at Broadway and Lawrence. I walked home, I have no idea what happened to Kenan, but since he's posting here now, I'll assume he's OK.

― jaymc, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

Gethsemane Garden Center is awesome. In my last apartment, it was right under my bedroom window.

― jaymc, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

When I think knockin' boots, I think H-Town.

Mormons on tonight at 9. Preceded by Antiques Roadshow in Salt Lake City.

― Eazy, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

THANK YOU for alleviating my fears, Eric. I will have to tape it.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

omg I was drunk. I could name you twenty aerosmith songs from the 70's.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

THAT'S NOT HARD.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

THATS WHAT SHE SAID

― Mr. Que, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

SOUNDS LIKE MY PROM NIGHT

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

and

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

YOUR MOM

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

MY BIG TEN INCH RECORD

― Mr. Que, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

I read that too quickly as MY BIG TEN INCH LANDLORD.

― Eazy, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

jailbait
lick and a promise
nobody's fault
home tonight

that's four. boom. done.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

and i think three of those are off the same album.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

all the best bands have a song called "jailbait"

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

All the best people have bad lungs and brittle bones. It's all frightfully romantic.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

draw the line, their last good song.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

All the best people have bad lungs and brittle bones. It's all frightfully romantic.


HI DERE.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

Kenan have you had experience buying refurbished Macs? I think someone on here was talking about it, can't quite recall.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

I have no experience, it's just a plan I have.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

My lungs are ok, but my bones are pretty brittle, so I've got that going for me.

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

god, people, please stop asking me stupid questions. srsly, stop, plz.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

ok. sorry.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

Dream on, dream on, Kevin.

― Eazy, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

Ooooooooooooo! Crazy Mormon show! I am SO going to DVR that shit. So Nick, if you miss taping it, I'll have it at our place and we can watch it. I love Frontline.

Also I just want to speak out in support of all the Clash of the Titans references and graphics we can possibly cram into this thread. You people know that's one of my all time favorite movies ever, right? Not only do I have the DVD, but the last time I was home I found a CofT COMIC BOOK that I had acquired during my youth.

― Jenny, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

I HAD THAT COMIC BOOK OMG SISTERS

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

If we had a backyard BBQ party for my birthday on Sat. May 19 or Sun. May 20, would people come and have fun?

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

Meaning you people?

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

yes.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

I still have it. I rescued it and a book call "How to Win at the Video Games" (yes "the video games") from which I learned MAD CENTIPEDE SKILLZ the last time I went to my parents' house. They are both proudly displaced on our bookshelf.

xp - My parents are flying in on May 19 and I am graduating from law school on May 20 so Jeff and I won't make a bbq either day. This should not stop you from having it, though.

― Jenny, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

ok wtf you guys. STOP SHOOTING PEOPLE.

This fucking country, I swear.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

;_;

I can't have it the weekend before because of Jenny's party, Bjork show and possible FF show.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

CoTT rules.

I saw Hot Fuzz last night, it was pretty good. For awhile I wasn't sure how ridiculous it was planning on getting, and I was relieved when it shifted over into pure ridiculousness.

Also, is it just me or are the deaths REALLY graphic considering the tone?

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

but the tone is EVERY ACTION MOVIE EVER. It's only right that it should be graphic.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

I would probably go to that BBQ.

― jaymc, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

We'll have to get something together that will inspire more enthusiasm since only one of you went to Nick's party last year (shared with Ben) - was that last year?

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

It's ok, everybody's already coming to the wedding.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

That will be the party.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE BBQ FOR THE WEDDING??!?!? you guys are awesome if so.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

i will have bbq with all this ilxors.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

I do love me some bbq.

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, Jeff and my absence from a birthday 'cue is nothing to cry about, you dig?

― Jenny, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

guys I have these stupid exams to take on May 30th, so I think I am going to miss all this fun, including Jenny's party. /whine

― horseshoe, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

dan--i bought a refurb mac from apple recently.

― JuliaA, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

Horseshoe, I can certainly identify with having to miss fun due to academic commitments but you and me are going out for beers when you're exams are over, for real.

― Jenny, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

So I moved cubicles a couple weeks ago (not far, just about 5 rows), and for the last few days at work, it's smelled like frosting in the morning. It's kind of gross.

We'll have to get something together that will inspire more enthusiasm since only one of you went to Nick's party last year (shared with Ben) - was that last year?

I don't remember why I didn't come to that, but it should not be taken as indicative of any lack of love for Nick.

― jaymc, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

aw, Jenny, that would rule! I'm so sorry I have to miss your party, but you are totally an inspiration, in your graduating-from-law-school-ness, to me in my attempting-to-pass-these-damn-exams-ness.

we are going to drink so many beers when this is over, guys. I'm putting you all on notice.

― horseshoe, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, ditto re: the Nick love. NICK I THINK YOU ARE THE BEES KNEES. Given the timing of your birthday, I was probably doing exam-related things this time last year.

Friends, this round of May birthdays are the last birthdays that law school will ruin.

― Jenny, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

Julia: any problems or issues to report? Advice? I am thinking it might be time to replace the ol' iBook...

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

stingy, if yr still looking for something to do today, it's the last day of artropolis.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

I really wanted to go to Artropolis, but I got back from Peoria too late yesterday afternoon for it to be worth it. Maybe it was free, but I didn't want to pay $15 just to rush through in an hour.

― jaymc, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

I have been put in charge of finding a DJ for my sister's wedding! With great power comes great responsibility.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

Should I eat ribs for lunch?

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

It's the daily special at my local meatorium, and all this bbq talk...

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

yes yes yes you should eat ribs for lunch.

― JuliaA, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

ok

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

i've been eating cashews all damn morning.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

Niiice.

I'm sure everyone had perfectly good reasons for not being able to make nick's party last year. I'm just saying that if not enough people can come, there's no point in having one. It's a good thing to know ahead of time.

I'm feeling kind of grumpy right now even though I don't have much work to do. I think I have a case of the...etc.

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

herpes?

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

I keep telling you to go to the doctor, Nick.

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

haha

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

The office treat this morning was a bag of Neapolitan Hershey's Kisses. I had 2 and they are not very good.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

i don't know where i was last year; the only thing i can think is that i had limeys and a texan staying with me for the blackout. but i'd go to a bbq.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

Choc and vanilla swirls? No wait. Those are called Hugs...

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

Tell me they don't have strawberry flavor in them.

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

They do.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

I just might be in town that weekend. You better have the bbq just in case.

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

http://candyaddict.com/blog/candy_pictures/neopolitan_kisses.jpg

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

Great. Well, at least it's not goatse.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

Agreed.

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

On tap for lunch today:
Veggie Chilli
String Cheese

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

the difference between a fresh-made White Hen sandwich and a pre-made one is night and freakin' day.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

Those ribs were off the chain, and I don't even feel like I'm about to slip into a coma (yet). Sides of garlic mashed potatoes and fruit salad, it was like my own little bbq.

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

GARLIC. MASHED. POTATOES.

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

omg veggie lasagna with spinach and artichokes and fresh (frozen) basil and yellow tomato slices on top. and lots of cheeese.

― JuliaA, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

yummmmm Sounds better than what I had (botched chickpea salad).

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

my roommate's gf made this really odd pizza last night too that turned out really good--pizza crust brushed with garlic-infused olive oil, with ricotta and red onions (that kind of caramelized) and nectarines, which surprisingly worked. drizzled with balsamic vinegar.

i totally love when she cooks.

― JuliaA, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

Nectarines, innteresting. I think I mentioned that some of my friends went on their honeymoon to SF recently and had some sort of thistle pizza at a fancy-pants French restaurant.

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

drizzled with balsamic vinegar.

I am v. weary of things drizzled in balsamic vinegar. Balsamic vinegar is starting to feel like the sun-dried tomatoes of the 00's. STOP MAKING EVERYTHING TASTE LIKE VINEGAR, YOU MANIACS.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

Vinegars have many different flavors, especially balsamics.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

Also it is way way way waaay more classic than sun dried toms.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

I swear I am getting phantom whiffs of vinegar just thinking about it. Bleeech.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

I have some oregano-infused vinegar at home.

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

I don't really see why it's a huge issue unless you eat like every meal in some fancy restaurant that does these trendy things.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

Vinegar is for killing fruit flies and ants.

You know the saying about catching more flies with honey etc? It are not true. Nothing catches more flies than a little bowl of rice vinegar.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

1/3 balsamic to 2/3 extra virgin + fresh herbs (if possible), sea salt, and ground pepper is better than any salad dressing you can buy in a store.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

So do you just not like vinegar? Or are you mad because it is trendy? I don't get it.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

big mac drizzled w/basalmic vinegar

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

I don't really see why it's a huge issue

It's not. I just don't like vinegar. It stinks and tastes bad.

But: you drizzled it with vinegar = you eat it yourself, leave me out of it.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

Kenan, why do you hate flavor?

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

Vinegar is great.

I went to the store on Friday and felt like I bought a lot of food, but upon reflection I only got a bunch of kosher hot dogs, veggie chili, and frozen waffles? What a sad life I lead.

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

Oh wait I got chips and black bean/corn salsa, but those are gone.

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

And beer, which I haven't had at home for awhile.

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

I don't really see why it's a huge issue unless you eat like every meal in some fancy restaurant that does these trendy things.

Ding ding ding.

I just got back from a 2-hour meeting on how my company can integrate its services with MySpace and Facebook. I went in skeptical, but it was a pretty interesting discussion. Also, there was free pizza.

― jaymc, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

I hope you drizzled some vinegar on that shit.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

Chicago, the propensity of your buildings to catch on fire is v. entertaining for downtown visitors. Kudos!

For realz, there were actually flames and shit shooting out of this building, and about sixty bazillion fire trucks rushing to the scene. Traffic is fucked around here, ppl!

― quincie, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

man, wtf w/the fires? see morning edition of dc thread.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

Uh, maybe you didn't read the DC thread yet but the Eastern Market and the Georgetown public library both caught on fire today so I think you still have us beat.

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

The city has been under fire (get it) for its handling of previous high-rise fires, so now every one is treated really really seriously, it seems.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

also, fires in chicago are really a sore spot what with the city burning down 130 years ago and then the fire in the county building in the loop a few years back. cfd tends to react on the side of bombast.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sad about the Eastern Market building. I just went there over Christmas (in my sister's hood) and it made me so happy. :-(

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

It was kind of hilariously sad... last Friday I headed out of work to walk around at lunchtime, and there were two fire trucks with sirens blaring headed west along the Midway Plaisance. About 2 minutes later the same two trucks were heading east along the other half of the same street, sirens still on. Even the firemen have trouble driving in this neighborhood!

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

I would totally go to this bbq. I WOULD GO! I will go.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah, me too, if I'm around.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

I will even bring some foods.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

Alright well maybe it'll happen ... MAYBE.

Would people be pissed if we did like we did before, where we bought some veggie stuff to grill, didn't buy meat but set up an extra grill where people who wanted to could bring and cook meat? Is that "cool"?

― n/a, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

BYOM?

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

meat ghetto

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

that's more than cool, it's expected.

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

That is "cool". I will "man" the meat.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

Nick, what if we did it this weekend? I guess it's pretty early... just an idea.

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

I would be "cool" with that.

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

(not to mention short notice)

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

NO! Please wait.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, "Do what you want."

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

It's Nick's perogative
Its the way that he wantsta live
It's Nick's perogative
You can't tell him what to do

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

He don't need permission
Makes his own decisions (oh)
That's his perogative

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

pierogi-tive

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

peronitive

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

pepperonitive

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

pearogitive

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.comune.moncalieri.to.it/servizi/cultura/mostre/images/donna_peroni.jpg

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

Prerogative.

― jaymc, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

That's not funny.

― Jordan, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

pedantogrative

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

Nope. Not funny at all. Dan stole my joke.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

Dan stole my joke.

pilferogrative
pirateogrative

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

I don't need prosciutto
Cook my own menudo
That's my perogative

― Eazy, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

I don't need andouille
Vegan ratouille
That's my perogative

― Eazy, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

hahahahahaha oh, now YOU funny

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

I don't need a spell-check
JMC comes correct
That's my paragative

― Eazy, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

This thread is damn near unreadable.

― jaymc, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

He don't like our thread now
Thinks we're giant fat sow
That's his porkogative

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

Back to the topic: So when is this g-d bbq?

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

It is looking like it will be sometime the weekend first suggested (May 19th or 20th?).

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

May 19th would be Malcolm X's 82nd birthday.

― jaymc, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

xp - Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. That means I can attend.

Dudes, I am wearing these super duper old shoes and I can smell my own feet. They do not smell good.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

I promise not to mention them again.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

I have a pair of short boots like that. Every time I wear them, I dump a significant amount of foot powder stuff inside.

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

My boss cut his vacation short by a couple of days because he missed being in the office every waking hour. :-(

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

That is crazy lame.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

He does that almost every single time, so I should have anticipated it by being slightly less happy this afternoon.

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

bosses gotta make that chedda

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

So they can go on more vacations.

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

I worked for a guy once who bought himself a Harley with his bonus money and a year later realized that he had put less than 500 miles on it.

― Eazy, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

Cheddar sounds pretty good right now.

Gmail is being a bully.

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

Forward from my mom.

>"FRIENDS" VS. "SOUTHERN" FRIENDS
>
>FRIENDS: Never ask for food.
>SOUTHERN FRIENDS: Always bring the food. And lots of it.
>
>FRIENDS: Will say "hello".
>SOUTHERN FRIENDS: Will give you a big hug and a kiss. More than one.
>
>FRIENDS: Call your parents Mr. and Mrs.
>SOUTHERN FRIENDS: Call your parents Mom and Dad, and often.
>
>FRIENDS: Have never seen you cry.
>SOUTHERN FRIENDS: Cry with you. And for you.
>
>FRIENDS: Will eat at your dinner table and leave.
>SOUTHERN FRIENDS: Will spend hours there, talking, laughing, and just
>being together. Then do the dishes before leaving.
>
>FRIENDS: Know a few things about you.
>SOUTHERN FRIENDS: Could write a book with direct quotes from you. And
>most of the time know you better than you do yourself.
>
>FRIENDS: Will leave you behind if that's what the crowd is doing.
>SOUTHERN FRIENDS: Will kick the whole crowds' back-ends that left you.
>Then walk beside you in the front of the crowd.
>
>FRIENDS: Would knock on your door.
>SOUTHERN FRIENDS: Walk right in and say, "I'm home!" If you are not home

>they will wait.
>
>
> FRIENDS: Are for a while.
>SOUTHREN FRIENDS: Are for life. And then some.
>
>FRIENDS: Might ignore this.
>SOUTHERN FRIENDS: Will forward this to all their Southern Friends!
>
>"Life is Short ... Dance Naked & Wiggle Your Butt!"

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

So now you know.

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

unless your black, amirite?

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

man, that is one broad oversimpification that never goes out of style, i'll tell you what.

― chicago kevin, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

I have northern friends that do that stuff.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

Nonsense!

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

Impossible!

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

You callin' my mom a liar?

― KitCat, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

Tis true!

xpost Never!

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

True of Northern European vs. Southern European too. I always joke that we Minnesotans are like the Dutch: friendly as hell, but it takes about 10 years to get in our front door (though I hope I'm not as aloof as my bretheren).

― Eazy, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

haha I got that exact email from my brother yesterday! Except it was "TEXAS FRIENDS."

― kenan, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

EZ OTM Re: Minnesotans (see also "Minnesota nice")

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

Ah geez. I got one of these about Ohio too but it was more like "You know you're from NE Ohio if..."

Ugh. I am fully aware that I am from NE Ohio.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

we are passive-aggressive bastards and we call it 'nice' as one of those dry ironies we're famous for (beartrap to mn nice)

― ghost rider, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

V. v. nice girl I semi-dated who is from Minnesota said she liked me because I was "aloof". OTM regarding irony!

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

honestly all the minnesotans I have ever known have been the nicest. my sister went to college in MN.

― horseshoe, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of dates, how did it go, Dan?

― jaymc, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

Not exactly as well as I was hoping but good enough. I am afraid we are both too shy to ever get anywhere. :\

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

Or is that :/? Whatever.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

I hate to break it to you, but none of you are shy.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

At least not by my standards.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

Introverted, yes. Shy? No.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

Well then it was a very introverted date. It felt at times like an 8th grade dance where you want to make out with the other person and suspect they want the same of you but nothing ever happens because neither of you makes a move :(

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

I thought that's what alcohol was for.

― Laurel, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

No one spiked the punch, eh?

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

haha xp

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

sigh tell me about it

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

KISS HER, YOU FOOL!

― horseshoe, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

For reals.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

I tried! My timing was bad.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

aw. well, next time for sure.

― horseshoe, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

Hope so, or this one is gonna be one more in the "friends" pile.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:00 (eighteen years ago)

Almost all of my favorite dates have historically involved some sort of extended periods of walking-and-talking. Are you usually sitting during these dates? Maybe that is stifling the mood.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)

I'm shyly introverted.

― Jeff, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:08 (eighteen years ago)

I enjoy walks on the beach.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)

DRIVE-IN.

― Eazy, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

I am comfortable in a suit or in bluejeans.

― Eazy, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

Mostly sitting, but lots of good talking... Which is what bums me out! Lots of laughs, lots of found connections via conversation, why no sucking face?!

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

Less sitting, more moving! That way you can trip and fall on top of her or something. Smooching will be imminent.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

Amanda=genius

― horseshoe, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

Remember I am kind of a big dude so falling on people is prolly not good. She can fall on me, whatevs.

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

Trip her.

― Laurel, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

I know, but that's what makes the walking-and-talking easier. Your arm, her shoulder, etc. The static character of sitting makes any kind of motion more awkward, obvious, and less likely to occur, I think.

Gah, if only there were more roller rinks.

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

Sit her down to watch a movie and then slip in the DVD of the art project with you on the couch.

― Eazy, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:31 (eighteen years ago)

asdflkkjasfdl;kjasdfl;asd;lkadsf;lkjsadf;lkasd;kljf;ljasdg;lhg

― dan m, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:32 (eighteen years ago)

djfknighwnith 777

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:36 (eighteen years ago)

I bring you the pudu, a pygmy deer:
http://www.austral-adventures.com/image/Pudu%20macho.jpg

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

An extremely wee infant pudu:
http://www.ultimateungulate.com/Images/Pudu_puda/P_puda2.jpg

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

Body Length: 85 cm / 2.8 ft.
Shoulder Height: 35-38 cm / 14-15.2 in.
Tail Length: 8 cm / 3.2 in.
Weight: 9-15 kg / 20-33 lb. [

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:45 (eighteen years ago)

omg
http://www2.udec.cl/panorama/p384/pudu3.jpg

― La Lechera, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

pudu

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 00:23 (eighteen years ago)

WHADDA DAY!

I did all that shit this morning, then I worked, then I walked home from the Loop. I stopped and bought a shirt to wear to my job interview, then up the Lakeshore Path home.

And just now I cooked shit TON of "curry" for tonight's dinner, and for freezing for later. Pananang curry chicken thighs with somein noodles, elephant garlic and oyster mushrooms, gailan, with aspargus on the side. Also, soba noodles with peanut sauce and gailan.

Productive Jesse is productive!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 00:41 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=910386

My route home. 7.54 miles.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 00:41 (eighteen years ago)

Where are you all? I've missed you!

All by myse-eelf....

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 00:56 (eighteen years ago)

There were people lying on the beach in swimwear today. I was fucking freezing in my slacks and t-shirt, in the stiff breeze.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 01:03 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny-way upthread, but I saved a "Clash of the Titans" movie storybook from the discard pile at the library sort this weekend. It is now mine. Pictures might be imminent. Oh yeah, and I am planning on transferring to your fair city by August.

― jocelyn, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 01:32 (eighteen years ago)

Except for I am really poor. I don't need both kidneys, right?

― jocelyn, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 01:33 (eighteen years ago)

So ... you know how we were talking about fires? We went to have practice tonight and found that a building on the block where we practice had caught on fire, and the fire spread down to the building where we practice, and it caught fire too. They put out the fire before it destroyed the building, but basically all of our equipment is ruined, either from heat or from water from the firehoses. I picked up my guitar and water poured out of the jack. Everything is covered in dust and dirt and insulation. We spent two hours trying to salvage stuff, though it's all unusable. All our amps, guitars, drums, PA equipment, everything is ruined. I am going to take a bath.

― n/a, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 01:40 (eighteen years ago)

Hi jocelyn. Glad to hear you are moving to Chicago. Sorry to be a buzzkill.

― n/a, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 01:41 (eighteen years ago)

Whooooooa. That's awful. I'm really, really sorry to hear about the fire. I mean, thank goodness it's only stuff and not people, but what a giant bummer.

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 01:53 (eighteen years ago)

In other news, yay Jocelyn back from the ether and moving to Chicago. I thought you were in nursing school or something?

― La Lechera, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 01:53 (eighteen years ago)

fuck, sorry nick. you can have my jaguar for as long as you want/need it. was it the place on carrol? i know some other people who lost some stuff.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 01:54 (eighteen years ago)

Ugh, that's terrible, Nick. I read about the fire yesterday and noticed it was near your practice space, but since they said it was an abandoned buildig I figured it wasn't the same. Ugh.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 01:55 (eighteen years ago)

I sold some dirty boots!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 02:02 (eighteen years ago)

OMG.

I'm sorry Nick! How did I fail to see your posta? I'm so sorry to hear that!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 02:04 (eighteen years ago)

oh Nick. that sucks so bad. :( I'm sorry.

― horseshoe, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 02:25 (eighteen years ago)

Oh wow. Nick and Sarah that sucks. I'm so sorry.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks, guys.

My mom = no help
When I called her last night looking for comfort she immediately said that she hopes I learned my lesson finally, after having my car stereo stolen (again) and now losing all the band equipment to fire that INSURANCE IS IMPORTANT. Then she listed off all these horrible tragedies in the history of world and how they were all for a reason. And that the reason this happend/the good to take out of it is that I'll learn to take better care of my things by way of insurance/security systems/etc. THANKS, MOM!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, Nick & Sarah, I'm so sorry. :( Let me know if I can help, I've got some extra drums/gear if Ben needs to borrow some.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

Those pudus make me feel a littl better. Also, I'm so glad you are finally moving here, joce!

xpost - Thanks, Jordan. We might want to take you up on the offer! (Ben was mostly sad about his custom vintage telecaster though.)

― KitCat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 13:59 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, if anybody is interested in joining the May Day march today, I'll be at Haymarket Square at Lake and Des Plaines at 12:20 today, and then march to Grant Park from there.

xoxoxoxox

― Jenny, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

thanks but i work for a living.

get a job, hippy.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

also, i hate working for a living.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

What will you be marchin' for, Jenny?

― KitCat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

may day is the unofficial holiday of socialist and labor organizations.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/mongolia/mn04_03a.jpg

― Eazy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/riley/787/cuba/propaganda/Fidel1.jpg

― Eazy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

In memory...
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/54558406_9130f9e8a7_m.jpg

― KitCat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

:(

I liked Ben's drums, too. Were the cymbals okay? If anything was salvageable, I'd think they would be.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images2/may1_mayday05.jpg

That baby's scary.

x post - Oh, Sarah, so sad. Even the tambourine?

CHILX supergroup session is now immortal.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

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You know what? I don't know if I can do it! I have the time and inclination, but I walked/jogged a total of 10.5 miles yesterday, and didn't really stretch, so now my legs are completely straight, immovable sticks of pain. Shit. I'll go soak in a tub for a while.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

ahem

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― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, if anybody is interested in joining the May Day march today, I'll be at Haymarket Square at Lake and Des Plaines at 12:20 today, and then march to Grant Park from there.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

We grabbed a bunch of stuff and put it on a truck. The guys who were running the space are putting things in storage. We're about 100% sure it will all have to be thrown out anyway, but JUST IN CASE. We also put a few things in our trunk, but haven't looked at them yet.

I picked up this one maraca I found under a pile of debris. A bunch of water shook out of it but it still made that cute maraca sound. So one of us can play the maraca (singular).

Jordan, the cymbals don't look so good. Whatever the firemen sprayed in there made everything rust and warp pretty quickly. Of course, the fire itself wasn't nice our stuff either.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

And the march is for the immigrant law reform.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

Ok, I'll stop talking about it.... NOW!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, I am impressed by your walking skillz.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

Those pudus make me feel a littl better.


Well, try these on for size:

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― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

son of a fucking fsdal;kjfao;siodha[fin8

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

N & S, I'm really sorry. :(

― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

Those pudus make me feel a littl better.


WELL STRAP THESE ON FOR SIZE!!

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/174/2133/400/thumbelina.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3645/pigletuc1.jpg
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/174/2133/400/sloth-beach.jpg

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, you should run with me. We can race.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

FFs if you need to borrow drums my stuff is available. My sincerest condolences.

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, you should run with me. We can race.


I would love to run with you, BUT I would probably be running way behind you because a. I'm slow, and b. you are famous for not pacing yourself.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

On Sunday, while Shana was shopping on Michigan, I went into Ditka's sports bar to watch the end of the Bulls game, and this old woman came in and sat down at a table across from mine. She just started talking to me because she was by herself, and since she kept asking me questions I decided to sit next to her because I figured she was this nice old lady having a margarita. Well anyway, it turned out that she was this philosophy professor who was really educated, but also really opinionated and hateful on a lot of things. She kept dissing on both Clintons, Obama, Carter, Madeline Albright, etc etc, saying she used to be a Democrat but the only one in the field that she kinda liked was Biden. She had a canvas bag with an image of Reagan's postage stamp on it. Also kept talking about Arabs and how they vote Democratic and then the Democrats give them all this money, and how Pakistanis are the worst. She would get this kinda scary/evil face when she was really mad about something. I just wanted to watch the game but she kept talking and talking and made it hard to leave. Finally when the game ended I told her I had to go. Crazy!

― stingy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

Had she lost her mind, or was she just an extreme right-winger? Or simply eccentric?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

Or simply eccentric?

Nobody But Biden?

― Eazy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

She totally has it ALL FIGURED OUT, guys.

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

I guess a little of both. She was too smart for me to say she lost her mind, and I don't think she was totally right-wing, but maybe she was at this point. She said the turning point for her was around Adlai Stevenson. Also we were talking about Michael Jordan, and she said how he could leap like Baryshnikov, and I asked her if she had ever seen Baryshnikov, and she was like, OF COURSE!! I told her I was a sociology major in college and she said they were the dumb ones, but that I obviously had a brain and should do something with my life.

― stingy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

Also that Jimmy Carter was a moron peanut farmer who just used the Middle East for profit.

― stingy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

Wait. I assumed that this march today was in support of immigration law reform because all the Latinos at work were talking about it, but now I wonder if it is specifically this, or if it is straight up May Day thing? Maybe the two are one.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

dude, you weren't far from where we were on sunday. like literally about a block away.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

dang, we coulda had a throwdown at Ditka's!

― stingy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

I REMEMBERED MY PIN NUMBER!!!

― sisut, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

My grasp of politics is really poor, so I don't get into involved discussions. But I wanted to be able to engage this guy I work with after he said the following:

-Clinton only passed policies that had been floating around since the Regan administration, and then only 3 of them-- the Family Medical Leave Act, Minimum Wage increase, and something else.

-Clinton ruined the economy. I assume he meant that the surplus in the national budget and the dot-com boom were artificial.

Mostly I was unsure of how to address the "artificiality" of the economic advances under his administration.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

WTG Kates!

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

yeah I can't really help you there. maybe they think that the dot-com stuff woulda happened anyway under Dole, and maybe that's possible? but then of course Gore is the father of the internet, right?

― stingy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

That's crazy talk, Jesse. The late-90s boom was like any technological boom, like when railroads, radios, cars were invented and 1000 companies were clamoring to be the ones to last. But it was a real boom. And we weren't at war. And the Reagan defecit became a surplus.

And the philosophy lady sounds like she's a Rand disciple maybe.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

How about this? The economic decline that happened during Bush's first term was the result of a time bomb that Clinton set.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

I REMEMBERED MY PIN NUMBER!!!

wow, only took four days. impressive no need for cash!

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

And so the Bushes on either side of Clinton, what, didn't run up a defecit themselves? By sending each of us a tax refund in 2001, etc.?

― Eazy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

This is the same guy who claims to be all Liberal and Democrat, but I think that since the environment at my work is pretty damn liberal, he is hesitant to take on "right-wing" as an identity, despite holding their beliefs.

This is the same guy who after I was complaining about having to put my single bottle of hand sanitizer in a plastic bag, said, "Well, they have their reasons I'm sure, and they have more information about security than I do, so I'm sure it's for our protection."

Why is it that I feel like I'm the wacko paranoid-sounding one if I start talking about paternalism, and how the powers that be benefit when we are uneasy?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

Diamanda Galas screeches something about this in the Plague Mass when she says, Then they tell you you're insane when you call him by his rightful name, "Impotent, Coward, Homophobe."

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

Presidents bear too much of the brunt for cyclical economic downturns. Neither Bush nor Clinton were responsible for the recession of 2001, but Bush's economic policies in response to the recession were misguided. Similarly, Clinton probably gets too much credit for having presided over a financially rosy era that might have happened, anyway, but he should definitely be praised for having taken advantage of that moment of prosperity to bring about a budget surplus.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

Neither Bush nor Clinton were responsible for the recession of 2001

I don't know what talk radio you have been listening to, mister...

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

Let the cuteness wars continue... I give you Indian Running Ducks:

http://www.domestic-waterfowl.co.uk/images/runners/running.jpg

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

dudes, i forgot my wallet at home today. i didn't notice until i got to the front door at work and i didn't have my key card to get in. so no wallet equals no money which equals NO LUNCH which is a shame because i'm so f'ing hungry it's not even funny. lucky for me i have the walnuts left over from yesterday's cashew/walnut mix.

today, so far, blows.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

Uh Kevin, stop being ridiculous and ask a colleague for $10 until tomorrow? Forgetting wallet is one of things things that just happens.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry, one of THOSE things!

― Laurel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

Leave work and hop a bus over towards Hyde Park, we can drink our lunches at stupid-ass Bar Louie.

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

i wouldn't ask these people here for a glass of water if i was on fire, i'm sure as fuck not asking them for money. i'm just cranky because i didn't get coffee this morning. blue line = fubar this morning = me running to catch bus = no time for bus station coffee.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

How did you manage to get on public transportation without a wallet?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

Not even the cotton dresses of spring can raise Kevin's spirits.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

john, my cta pass is always in my left jacket pocket.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

oh, god, eazy, you just reminded me of a conversation from saturday.... it's either a huge awesome or a tremendous ugh.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

You don't have one single colleague with whom yr on good enough terms to be helped out for FOOD CONSUMPTION purposes? :(

― Laurel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

hey, what's a good gift for a 3rd wedding anniversary?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

can you get CTA passes that are at a reduced rate for residents? cuz I thought I heard that all you could do was add money to a card and with that you paid $1.75 instead of $2.00. is that all you get off, 25 cents??

― stingy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

There are 30-day passes for $75, there's the ChicagoCard, there are cash discounts for buying $10 or more in a single purchase at a CTA station...

― Eazy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

i have no idea what you're talking about, so katieburger off the money. i buy a 30-day pass for $75 and it's good for unlimited rides. i'd be spending $88 during the month just getting to and from work so it's a good deal for me.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

oh, wait, katieburger, if you use chicagocard or chicago card plus it's 1.75 then .25 for the first transfer whereas if you pay with the transit card it's 2.00 then .25 for the first x-fer.

i think that might be what you mean?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

but regardless, cta fare cards are not good gifts for a 3rd wedding anniversary. lil help?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

stingy != sisut

― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

shit, i gotta read more closely. or people need to change their names.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

i was just psyched to be able to say "katieburger" again.

cheap thrills.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

3rd WEDDING ANNIVERSARY
Traditional Anniversary Gift: Leather


this isn't a door i'm comfortable opening, i think.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

record an acoustic version of The Leather by The Oblivians for them.

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

i didn't want to get them booze because they're having a party and the booze would just get emptied that night but fuck it, i don't know what else to get.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

mr. que, have you seen the gonerfest IV lineup?

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

sorry for the confusion. I was just spending $2 each time over the weekend, and was hoping there was something better that invovled unlimited rides. sounds like there is. that's good.

― stingy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

Stinge, there are also 2-day and 7-day passes if you're just visiting here.

A saddle.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

yeah dude there are 1, 3, 5 (i think), 7, and 30 day passes. i don't know if there's a 14 day pass, i kinda doubt it.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

I love the 30-day pass. I love that I can be broke and still can go to Oak Park or Hyde Park or Evanston or Wicka Park or anywhere. Having a pre-paid CTA pass and a pre-paid gym membership is all I need, other than a quarter for a Nutty Bar.

― Eazy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:14 (eighteen years ago)

it's never a good day when speedway is my lunch source. especially not our neighborhood speedway. hooray for cheezits and coffee.

― sisut, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

A hand-tooled leather-bound photo album? It's a little cheesy unless you know they tend to use photo albums (some people don't esp in This Digital Age), but it could work.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

Or artsy leather wristbands to prevent guitar-burn, how about.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

lol nutty bar

― Jordan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

Someone find me a high-paying technical writing or QA job in Chicago, pls.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, we wanted to get the 5 day passes for $20 when we left Midway, but the one machine they had that gives those out was broken. So then we had to spend the $2 and just kept on doing it. I think it probably came out about the same though, since we did a ton of walking on the trip. Thanks for the info.

― stingy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

Why did you have to mention Nutty Bars? Next thing you know I'll be craving cheese fries and Mountain Dew again like jr. high lunch hour ca. 1993.

― jocelyn, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

Fake Fictions-I am so sorry about the fire. Let me know if there is anything I can do.

― jocelyn, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

Nick and Sarah, losing everything in the fire is terrible! I'm so sorry. And even more sorry that it took me this long to say I'm sorry. I think you deserve my apartment for that.

Kevin, I thought you were trying to use Katieburger in a non-specific manner to indicate some sort of quality or characteristic (say, inability to remember PIN numbers). It confused me.

― sisut, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

A hand-tooled leather-bound photo album? It's a little cheesy unless you know they tend to use photo albums (some people don't esp in This Digital Age), but it could work.

no, i think that would be the kind of thing they would both like. they have lots of photos. maybe i'll call canderson and see if i can use some of his shots of them to populate part of the book.

now i just have to find one, that should be easy. thanks for the suggestion.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

lunch = turkey blt, outside in the beautiful weather

― Jordan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

I had a bacon blt.

― jocelyn, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

bblt?

― Jordan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

Some that stand out in my search:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://loulousdecor.com/images/catalog/ALBFROLL4601.jpg&imgrefurl=http://loulousdecor.com/template2.asp%3Fproduct_id%3DALBFROLL4601&h=276&w=300&sz=36&hl=en&start=37&sig2=DoIeSOGUjJMBD3tdY1MzuA&um=1&tbnid=E57Cxb7izZuhIM:&tbnh=107&tbnw=116&ei=fns3RsLWLoWkhgT3wumyAw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dleather%2Balbum%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11515079/Leather_Photo_Album.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11515079/Leather_Photo_Album.html&h=512&w=704&sz=58&hl=en&start=98&sig2=aL6v4u2MFzSezlReI5vM3A&um=1&tbnid=pzMJiKLC2DvXQM:&tbnh=102&tbnw=140&ei=Wnw3Ro2gJqC2hQTQhKisAw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dleather%2Balbum%26start%3D80%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.leatherbooks.info/images/c608S.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.leatherbooks.info/pages/CustomDesigns.asp%3Fpg%3D12&h=199&w=200&sz=9&hl=en&start=144&sig2=4iJyeaGve2XlZCi34r10Jg&um=1&tbnid=MyxFWwWwyJ64WM:&tbnh=103&tbnw=104&ei=8303RsnXAYGYhATWycWcAw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dleather%2Balbum%26start%3D140%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN

― Laurel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

Oh fuck, sorry. I should have made those hyperlinks....

― Laurel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

The The Angels Angels

― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

i love them dearly but i just do not have $105.00 to spend on a present for a last minute party.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

also, john, check you gmail.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

ok, back to work.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

bacon bacon bacon bacon lettuce tomato

― Jordan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

I doubt anyone cares, but I figured out what was wrong with my laptop -- the hard drive is dying. So, hard drives being hard drives, I'm going to go pick one up at /\/\|(R0(3|\|73r (a bigger one, 120GB if they have one that will fit) and install the fucker myself. As of last night I could get my computer to run without stalling for short periods of time, so I had to back stuff up slowly but I have saved all the very important stuff and am now working on music. I will get through this, and I am actually very much looking forward to hacking the thing back together.

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

It should be interesting: http://www.faqintosh.com/risorse/en/guides/hw/ibook/g4hd/

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

The internet was down here for a very long time.

Then we had a "Lunch & Learn" about mold, which was actually pretty interesting, but there weren't any veggie lunches. I had a teeny tiny pasta side salad and 1 1/2 cookies. Ick.

Those running ducks need tall socks with stripes at the top.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)

So I work on Washington Blvd between Union Park and downtown. I just ventured out for lunch, part because I was hungry, and part because I was curious.

Best Tshirt seen(shittily translated from spanish): "Yeah, I'm an illegal. So what? Go fuck your mom." It had a really big middle finger right in the middle of the slogan too.

― mattttt, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

hey matttt, when you guys play soccer, what area is it in? now that I got an apartment, I can start thinking about these things.

― stingy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

We generally practice at either Union Park (by where we work -- West Loop) or Montrose fields (uhhh, Lakeview?). Montrose is fucking great -- it's on the lakefront, they have a ton of fields with goals and nets, including a turf field (that is almost always reserved). The best part about Montrose is its really really easy to just go down there almost any night of the week and get a pickup game with dudes from all over the world. If we play at Union it's pretty much always just whomever we bring out there (6-10 people usually). I usually play weekends at Montrose and weekdays at Union.

Our league is almost over, but we play in an indoor turf field and Mercy Boys and Girls Center on Adams. Our summer league will be at...who the fuck knows.

When are you moving here for good? I'm going to Spain this week and will be gone for two weeks, but I can let you know the next time we get together at either place.

― mattttt, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

So excited about going to New Orleans you guys.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

Moving June 1st to southern edge of Wicker Park. I think that's not too far from Union Park, so maybe I can come on down to one of those. Are you going to see any La Liga matches?

― stingy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)

Deez Thread EEez Dead.

― KitCat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

Hi!

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

On Flickr, are you able to set it so that nobody can hotlink your photos? Because there's a photo of me that somebody took that I want to post on ILX, but when I try to view Properties, it's giving me that dumb "spaceball.gif" URL. What am I doing wrong?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

I think you have to "view different sizes" and then it will give you the proper URLs?

― n/a, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

I am feeling a little better now. I want a slurpee though.

― n/a, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

Try right clicking on it, then "view image" then copy and paste the image URL from there, removing the last big after .jpg. That's what I always do at least. I have no idea if hotlinking can be forbidden.

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

just take a screenshot of the photo.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

last BIT after .jpg sorry

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

Try right clicking on it, then "view image" then copy and paste the image URL from there, removing the last big after .jpg. That's what I always do at least.

View Image gives me that "spaceball.gif" URL as well.

Where is View Different Sizes?

(Btw, it's just this one photo. I've never had a problem using View Image or Properties to extract the URL for any of my photos, for instance.)

― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

just take a screenshot of the photo.

I don't have image-editing software on this computer.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/433275354_818f753e4b.jpg

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

I just hotlinked to that off my friend 53th's flickr using the technique I described above. Again, I don't know if it's possible to restrict hotlinking, but it worked there.

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/250/461906728_30bc2b7773.jpg?v=0

― stingy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

I just did that off flickr as well, and didn't even have to erase the ?v=0

― stingy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

Where's the picture? I'll do it.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

Haha IT to the rescue! I was just about to offer to try.

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, Dan, I did the same from your account:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/469985411_f71bbb7fd1.jpg

― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

EXCELLENT CHOICE

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

I want a tshirt of that.

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

Photo is http://www.flickr.com/photos/hadleyphoto/471502775/.

Have at it!

― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/231/471502775_6679b7c7e2_m.jpg

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

Small, but usable?

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I wanted the larger one. Oh well. Maybe I'll just have Sarah e-mail it to me.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

I've been having a hard time linking to my flickr photos and I never used to have a problem.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

I mailed you a larger one.

― Jeff, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/42034.jpg

― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

Oh thanks Jeff. What did you do?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

There seems to be a setting in your user prefs that disables downloading images.

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)



Preventing people from downloading a photo also means that a transparent image will be positioned over the photo on the photo page, which is intended to discourage* people from right-clicking to save the photo, or dragging the photo to their desktop.

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

Gotcha. That makes sense, since she's a professional photographer.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

when they do that, you can always View Source and grab the url from there

― kenan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah, that never occurred to me. Anyway, I started a new WDYLL thread, so get used to seeing that photo for the next month.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

fyi, the picture i posted was from our annual kickball game vs. wxyc. i pitched a complete game with 2 strikeouts!

― stingy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

Nice photo, John!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

I think I'll wait until next month to post on a WDYLL thread, so I can post a cutesie wedding pic. (31 days, ya'll!)

― KitCat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

SO SOON!! Whoah.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks!

― jaymc, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

I think I just changed cable companies, you guys. An RCN salesperson called me and offered me all kinds of deals. $90 for top-o-the-line high-speed internet, plus basic cable with a cable box. That's $30 more than I'm paying now, but Turner Classic Movies comes standard with RCN, and that's what I want most of all. Comcast was trying to charge me $50 more than that to get a box and the channel I wanted. Comcast: you lose.

― kenan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

will you be getting VH1 SOUL??

― stingy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

oh noes WAHT WILL I DO WITHOUT VH1 SOUL??????

― kenan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

the guy I stayed with had RCN too, so maybe you'll be safe.

― stingy, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, Nick and Sarah, really sorry to hear about the fire. That's horrible. I would offer up my really shitty Johnson guitar for use, but I'm sure theres approximately 42 people on this thread alone with better equipment to offer.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

other news: The Washington Post is sending Jessa to Texas to cover the bomb that was set at the door of the same clinic she had an abortion at. I can't tell if it's going to be a news thing or a "think piece", but it's a story, either way. It's a big story, I think, that this kind of shit is happening again.

― kenan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

There is nothing shitty about any Johnsons. :-D (my last name)

xpost - How would they know where she had an abortion? Or is it a coincidence?

― KitCat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

She pitched it to them, and they ate it up.

― kenan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

Oh. Good for her!

― KitCat, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

OMG YOU GUYS IN TWO WEEKS I WILL HAVE TCM!

― kenan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

How about a story tone of: How the fuck can anyone set a bomb anywhere in this country and not be labeled a terrorist? It's almost as if we had some nutty evangelical unilateral crazy men leading this parade.

― mattttt, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

IT'S NOT TERRORISM, IT'S ABOUT LIFE.

― kenan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

Gotta be a "think piece", sounds like she's too intimately involved for a hard news story. Also Matt OTM.

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

matt is totally otm.

btw, she will KILL me if she knows i posted this here. So shhh.

― kenan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

hi guys, i am posting this from m@tt's wii. 'typing' on it kinda sucks but yknow, my computar is out of comission. i think i will play some excite truck...

― dan m, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 22:50 (eighteen years ago)

nick, sarah: i just got yr FF mail and wanted to say how sorry i am to hear about the fire. i bet you max et al will lend you stuff for gigs, though, if you need it!


...does practice space carry insurance??????

― river wolf, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 23:14 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse and I walked about three miles today. I am the tired.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

you should have The Nap.

― kenan, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

I will have the eight hour nap as soon as I clean the cat boxes and take the shower.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 23:48 (eighteen years ago)

OH I can't believe I didn't post this yet, since as soon as it happened my first thought was "I can't wait to go home and tell the internet!" but Jesse and I were at a bar on Broadway and Oakdale having a post-worker justice burger and beer. Seeking to pour some ketchup on his plate in which to dip his onion rings (I just typed union rings HAHAHA), tired, low-blood sugared Jesse mistakenly grabbed his $2 bottle of Bud Light and poured beer all over his plate instead. Then he laughed about as hard as I've ever seen him laugh for about ten minutes straight while I ate my burger.

― Jenny, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 23:52 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.pbfcomics.com/archive/PBF218-The_Great_Circle.jpg

― Jeff, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 00:06 (eighteen years ago)

btw, she will KILL me if she knows i posted this here. So shhh.


Isn't putting the name and abortion alongside each other kind of asking to get caught?

― Eazy, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:32 (eighteen years ago)

I had not eaten all day when I poured that beer on my union rings. I walked 10.5 miles the day before, slept 6 hours, drank 2 Diet Cokes and an iced coffee before marching FOREVER, so I was off my ketchup-grabbing game, and I was punchy so I couldn't stop laughing.

Then Courtney and I went out to scope out Konak's for the PUKEFEST and found it entirely ammenable. Then we went to the Hopleaf and had a not-great beer (Brooklyn Black Chocolate Ale--smelled OK, but tasted to o acidic and finished like a weak espresso) and then a Duchess de Bourgougne to cleanse our palates, then walked home.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/177/469985411_f71bbb7fd1.jpg

I want a tshirt of that.

-- dan m, Tuesday, May 1, 2007 2:46 PM (7 hours ago)


That is a Threadless T-shirt originally.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:41 (eighteen years ago)

J3554 is not the most common name....

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:42 (eighteen years ago)

my friend benny works there, at threadless

― river wolf, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:43 (eighteen years ago)

The rally was fucking HUGE. Links to images and stories would be mucho appreciados.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:54 (eighteen years ago)

This Mexican has a sunburn.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:56 (eighteen years ago)

The dumbass next to me in my training class today:

Him: "That's interesting."

Me: "What?"

Him: "Well, apparently thousands of illegal immigrants marched today. Wouldn't that just be, like, opening themselves up to being arrested and deported? You know, 'here we are'?"

Me: "Uh, that's not how it works."

:(

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 04:35 (eighteen years ago)

The Chicago crowd included the diehard, the offbeat and the angry. One man wore speakers around his neck that constantly blared a car alarm. Another blew into a conch shell to answer chants. Others spent part of the march doing the wave.
-CS-T

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 11:56 (eighteen years ago)

Four human skulls found in Wicker Park house

May 2, 2007
FROM STNG WIRE REPORTS
Police found four human skulls -- one boiling in a pot of water -- at a man’s home in the North Side's Wicker Park neighborhood late Tuesday.

A man looking to buy a department store mannequin visited the residence of a mannequin dealer in the 2100 block of North Damen Avenue about 11 p.m. on Tuesday. During the visit, the man looking to buy a mannequin saw two human skulls on the dealer's porch and two more inside the residence -- one boiling in a pot of water, according to Shakespeare District police Lt. Perry Nigro.


"He decides to leave and call police," Nigro said. "Police got there and, sure enough, he had a couple of skulls on the front porch, one boiling and another one [inside]. They’re all human.’’


The man buys the skulls from China and then sells them as medical models. He apparently was cleaning the one inside the pot, Nigro said.



"It doesn’t appear to be anything untoward at this time," Nigro said. "As weird as it is, it doesn’t seem like anything is wrong."


The skulls were sent to the Cook County Medical Examiner's office for examination.


Grand Central Area detectives have talked to the man and continue investigating, the lieutenant said.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 12:04 (eighteen years ago)

UH HELLO 2100 N DAMEN IS CLEARLY BUCKTOWN NOT WICKER PARK

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:07 (eighteen years ago)

Those wacky Bucktownians.

Wicker Park is wherever a realtor wants to tell you it is. A friend of mine from Georgia was looking at places and the realtor he contacted was trying to convince him that a place three blocks west of California was Wicker Park.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:16 (eighteen years ago)

In a way, we all live in Wicker Park.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:17 (eighteen years ago)

It's a state of mind, maaaaaaaaan.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

Speak for yourself.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

;)

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

So watching Planet Earth has now become my favorite reason for splurging on the HD TV.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

Those Bucktownians and their human skulls...

Jordan, that's like one of my coworkers yesterday.

Coworker number 1: Did you know they are saying that in this century the minorities in this country will become the majority?

Coworker number 2: REALLY?! That makes me SO ANGRY! You have NO IDEA how angry that makes me...

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

I am excited about watching Planet Earth!

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

You should tell your coworker to have more babies, then.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

I think she's old for that. BWAH HA HA.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

(too old)

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

Today's fertility drugs are very powerful.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha true

She did have three though back in the day, so she tried.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

NOT HARD ENOUGH!

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

Try harder, xenophobe!

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

See y'all later. I'm off to work now. Have a wonderful day.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

She needs to whip up a QUIVERFUL OF CHILDREN.

Jordan, given that ICE likes to carry machine guns to raid shopping malls and raid factories with a one-to-one swat cop to worker ratio, I can see why your coworker would find it dangerous for undocumented immigrants to come out en masse to protest. I know some people who didn't come out yesterday (and for other protests) for that very reason. The police aren't rounding up protesters, but if something gets wacky and the cops decide to do is corral everybody in a one block radius and take them all in, anybody without legal immigration status is going to be in some trouble (see Chicago, March 20, 2003).

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

god, sarah, i am so lucky i don't work where you work. because i'm sure i would have come back with some wisecrack about "next thing you know they'll let women vote and negroes eat in the same restaurants as us!" or something. and then i'd probably be fired.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

The police weren't rounding up protesters, I should say. The cops are generally pretty chill at these immigration marches. No riot gear, no lining the streets, and free access to and exit from the march at all points along the route. Totally different from peace marches.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:36 (eighteen years ago)

Christy from OK sent me a myspace bulletin that a racist Okie friend of her parents posted about how if white people wanted to march for white power or wanted to have white history month or the White Entertainment Channel*, they'd be called racists, and how that is like, totally unfair.

*I don't guess she'd buy my standard counter argument that every month is white history month and every TV channel is the White Entertainment Channel.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

Eh. Racists are everywhere. Film at 11.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

I've had two days of bike messenger interactions. Yesterday, I had a collision with a guy as I was crossing the street (no one hurt). Then this morning the bus I was on hit a guy (he seemed okay, but was holding his arm funny).

― Jeff, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

White Entertainment Channel

HI DERE NASHVILLE NETWORK.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

Every month is white history month!

― Jeff, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

ok amateur freuds, twice in the last week i've had dreams that have ended with me being chased by an alligator. what does this mean?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/7/77/Spike_tv_logo.jpg

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

oh, and the one on sunday i was alone but last night i was with someone. if the next one involes me and two other people will that make a difference?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

Was it an urban setting? Your disbelief in urban legends may be costing you.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

"I was born the second day of Shark Week, during White History Month. It was the day they covered the Nurse and Tiger sharks."

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

first one was in the town where i grew up last night was in bucktown/logan square area. western & milwaukee or maybe california & milwaukee.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

The police aren't rounding up protesters, but if something gets wacky and the cops decide to do is corral everybody in a one block radius and take them all in, anybody without legal immigration status is going to be in some trouble (see Chicago, March 20, 2003).


I think I mentioned it yesterday, but the building I work in is on Washington between downtown and union park. Yesterday during the marches, our building and a couple others got tagged with that acid glass-etching crap. Not only did the fuzz catch the guys who did it, but they found them almost immediately due to the fact that other marchers got pissed off and told police straight away.

― mattttt, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

Oh and today's highlight: Mike fucking Ditka is coming to my office to record lines for a demo we're putting together. This is the most excited I've ever seen my fellow nerd coworkers get about something that does not include the word "Galactica".

― mattttt, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)



Jim: [dressed like Dwight] Question: What kind of bear is best?

Dwight: That’s a ridiculous question…

Jim: False. Black bear.

Dwight: That’s debatable, there are basically two schools of thought…

Jim: Fact: Bears eat beets. Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica.

Dwight: Bears do not…what is going on?!? What are you doing?!?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

That bit was so goddamn funny it made my laugh to the point of involuntarily spewing fluid out of every orifice.

― mattttt, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, it was pretty hilarious, along with the callback at the end with Dwight pretending to Jim and making faces into the camera.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

Ooh I theoretically have all four hours of that Mormon documentary sitting in my VCR at home. I still haven't checked the tape to make sure it worked though.

LOL at VCR and tape, amirite?

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

I wanted to watch the mormon show at the gym but I was early, so I watched a Travel channel BBQ documentary instead. It was kinda wack (the Kansas City segment didn't do it justice and the taste test was stupid) but it made me hungry.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

From the Trib's Breaking News page. Daley gave a fiery speech. A speech which included a reference to the Olympics, of course.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

As in "We want immigration reform BEFORE THE 2010 OLYMPICS IN CHICAGO!"

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-05/29471596.jpg

I would like to see images from the helicopters.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

wow

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

LOOK LOOK!! THERE WE ARE!!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-05/29472476.jpg

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-05/29472430.jpghttp://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2007-05/29471592.jpg
http://www.innocentenglish.com/cute-animals/cute-baby-kittens-puppies-img/cutest-puppy-halloween-costume-pic54.jpg

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

I wanted to watch the mormon show at the gym but I was early, so I watched a Travel channel BBQ documentary instead. It was kinda wack (the Kansas City segment didn't do it justice and the taste test was stupid) but it made me hungry.

There's someting funny and primal about watching the Food Network on the treadmill. I've done it. I guess funny because it's not like you can eat and run at the same time.

I love that black-guy-in-the-office photo as a stock photo for "What the fuck's going on outside my office?" That should be on every company's webpage.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

I think it's pretty much agreed that the count was around 150K, but the NY Times is saying that that is smaller than last years march in Chicago which they report was 1/2 million. I thought it was only 50K last year.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

[Removed Illegal Image]

They should put it in a safety practices guide for what to do in the event of a protest outside: "Keep your head down and keep on working."

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

oops. that wasn't an image, that was a quote of what eric said.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, totally, Eric. I feel kind of embarassed when I do that because I feel like I'm coming of as some kind of "oh look, I run on an elliptical and probably eat clif bars while fantasizing about gourmet food" person.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

The first thing I ever heard that coworker say was that, honestly, she wishes she could live in a gated community like her mom with other white affluent people because she was tired of feeling unsafe all the time.

It makes me laugh and laugh when people think that because they preface something with 'Honestly,...' it makes it ok. It's up there with 'No offense but...'.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

Where is everyone?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

What the fuck is making her feel unsafe? Where does she live? She can go feel safe in Evanston or Naperville, can't she?

My fucking tooth fell out and won't go back in. Fuck.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha. She already lives in Evanston.

Oh no!

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

35 minutes until my morning STRING CHEESE snack.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

Are there TVs on treadmills at the gym? Like personal ones, where you get to choose the channel yourself? I don't understand.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

(South Evanston is full of darkies, fwiw.)

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

Oh.

I never watch tv at the gym. I don't wear my glasses while I work out and I don't have a radio to listen to them.

There are a whole bunch of them on different channels, at least at ours, so you could just try to score a machine in front of the show you wanna watch I guess.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

a radio to listen to them

This is even more interesting!

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

I usually try to get one near the Simpsons. The best was when I would go in the afternoon after work and get to watch Jeopardy! while on the elliptical.

Speaking of Jeopardy, I checked out the Ken Jennings trivia book John was talking about. I haven't started it yet, still working my way through The Executioner's Song.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't even know you could use a radio to listen, I always just read the closed captioning.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

There's a literal crack house right next door to my friend's house in Evanston.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha. I am fantasizing about what kind of new guitar I should get, when that is like the lowest-priority item that we need to replace.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

Still, it is the most fun for me.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

There is one for each treadmill at my gym, John (at least on some of the treadmills). So, in the same way that you lose awareness of your body while sitting and watching a good show, zone out in the same way, but while exercising.

2002-2004 were the golden years before Comcast cracked down, when my gym had HBO. Got through all of Pulp Fiction once while walking at an uphill incline.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

(It's built into the treadmill, so you can channel-surf, etc.)

― Eazy, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

Hmm... I just assumed you could listen to them via radio. How else could you? They don't have the sound on.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:jocohl9ecvyIoM:http://msnbcmedia3.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/051227/051227_diglife_norditrack_vmed.widec.jpg

There's a little remote-control size box that you can plug headphones into and adjust volume and channel.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

I think I still need to see a physical therapist before I destroy myself at a gym.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

The individual tvs are a godsend for me, because I don't think I'd want to convince the whole room to watch Charlie Rose or Louis Farrakhan or C-SPAN.

Nonesense, John, you can just take a brisk walk on a treadmill and it will feel fine. Zone out, watch Lost, and suddenly an hour has passed and you've burned 600 calories.

― Eazy, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

Really? A brisk walk or jog seems designed to exacerbate pain in my left ankle, just like a bike ride seems designed to exacerbate pain in my right arm.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

John, I think you will get over it. Maybe the elliptical will help ease pressure on your ankle or you'll learn better form or other muscles will get stronger.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

I'm no physical therapist, but I can't imagine how doing nothing is more healthy than doing anything.

― mattttt, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

True dat. You should at least schedule that doctor's appointment so you have something in the works.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

Please understand I am not trying to give excuses for not exercising. I just know that I biked a lot in the summer of 2005, and ever since, my entire right arm, from my shoulder socket to my wrist, gives me pain. I would love to be able to exercise, but I am afraid of doing the same kind of damage, so I would like to see a physical therapist to tell me which sorts of exercises would be good for me and which I should stay away from.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

(And it makes me sad, because the bike riding was going to be something I could do that wouldn't bother my ankles.)

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

John, do you have a regular doctor you go to who could recommend a physical therapist?

STUPID QUESTION ALERT!
I just got a quote on renters insurance. Would the premium most likely be the total payment for one year or a monthly payment? (premium was $184 fwiw). I will call Geic0 eventually to ask more questions, but first I'm going to check to see if we have a fire extinguisher and working smoke alarm since we could get discounts for those.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

I'm guessing that would be per year, based on my previous experience with renter's insurance. But I didn't even know G3ic0 had it, so maybe they are expensive.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

I can't remember how much ours is, but maybe around $280 every 6 months? That's through statefarm. I think we have contents covered up to 60,000, which includes anything we take out of the apartment too.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

We have our car insurance through them. That's why I thought it would be cheaper/easier. I'm almost 100% sure I'm right that it would be an annual payment or every 6 months (divided and up and thrown in with our auto insurance bill). I'll just ask when I call them. I'll also have to ask about band equipment and things we take out of the apartment of course... Le sigh.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

AND how to get a car stereo covered if'n we ever replace that.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

I'm on an HMO plan, so I have a designated GP, but we just changed carriers at the beginning of this year and I had to pick a new doctor who I don't even remember now. Anyway, yes, I have been planning to make an appointment for a routine physical for a little while now.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

I had one last year. I don't like blood tests. :-(
Actually, I kind of even hate having my blood pressure taken. I am wussy.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

Nick hasn't seen a doctor or dentist of any kind since before I met him (unless an EYE doctor counts). I am probably marrying a bag of diseases. Oh, Love. Whatcha gonna do?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

i don't think i've been to a doctor since i lived in massachusetts. i remember making an appointment for a physical while i still had insurance and a job.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

er, except the eye doctor.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway, please try to restrain yourselves from stealing anything from our place or voilating it in any way for the next couple of weeks.

xpost - Do you not go when you're really sick? Or do you not get really sick?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

And also "while I still had... a job"? What happened?

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

what sort of handlebars have you used, john? iirc, most exercise bikes have upright handlebars, which don't really need you to lean into them at all, unlike racing handlebars, which are on a lot of bikes.

also: swimming is awes for joint probs.

but yeah, you should probably get a referral to a PT.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

Because Nick rarely gets sick beyond the slight cold or headache. I'm pretty sure he's only thrown up once the whole time I've known him. (I probably average 3 x a year I'm guessing?)

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

while you still had a job in MA, do you mean?

i watched the depahhted again last night and was up way too late with images of exciting violence in my brane.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

(More if you count the multiple times per incident)

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

I am probably marrying a bag of diseases.

OK, let's talk about which one of us is rarely sick and which one is ALWAYS sick.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

I just want to jump in on John's defense about wanting to see a doc before exercising with an injury/unexplained pain. I developed some terrible knee pain about five years ago and decided to just tough it out and keep on running, which totally exacerbated the problem so that when I finally did go to a doc, the diagnosis was no more running and eventually surgery (I followed the no running but am not getting surgery any time soon since it would require not walking for three months WTF?!?! I live on the second floor of a no elevator apartment building FFS).

So, yeah. Sometimes exercising is worse than doing nothing.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

Ok, I'm a believer now.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

Also, yes, swimming = awes (John, I will totally take a water aerobics class with you OMG we could wear matching bathing caps!!!!!) (I am only half kidding here) for injured workouts AND Julia is correct in that a lot of gyms have recumbent bikes where you don't have to put any weight on your hands/arms/wrists but can just lean back and enjoy your People magazine.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny and John plz to purchase matching bathing caps!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

Coordinated swimming!

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

OH AND I have tried to workout with a trainer who disregarded my pleas to not incorporate any exercises that involved bending my knees with extra weight on them (she actually accused me of exaggerating the severity of the knee pain to avoid doing weighed squats, that asshole) and taken a bazillion yoga classes with (stupid) instructors who, after I do the right thing and tell them that I have "knee restrictions" still insist on putting me through cycles of poses that involve putting, like, my entire body weight on my knees so, yeah. I guess I'm just saying that it can be very frustrating to have a chronic joint problem and want to be active.

And then there's things like marching three miles for worker rights and not being able to walk down stairs the next day and feeling like an 80 year old woman, which is pretty disheartening.

WOW. That was really whiny. Sorry.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

Nick hasn't seen a doctor or dentist of any kind since before I met him

Whoa.

I've actually only been to a doctor maybe two or three times since I started this job in late 2004, but for the two years before that, I felt like I was going all the time, and for lots of different reasons: ingrown toenail, being fit for orthotics, weird rash on my arms, another weird rash on my arms, that mysterious illness I had where I had an accelerated heartrate and no appetite, urinary tract infections, other things you don't want to know about.

I need to make a dentist appointment, too.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

I have taken water aerobics classes and I just have this hilarious picture in my head of John and me treading water with empty plastic milk jugs in our hands.

http://glamourmag.typepad.com/fashionbeauty__insider/images/bty060717.jpg

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

that is totally the one you guys should buy!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

what sort of handlebars have you used, john? iirc, most exercise bikes have upright handlebars, which don't really need you to lean into them at all, unlike racing handlebars, which are on a lot of bikes.

Mine just stick out straight. They're not the ones that curve down.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

guys I hate reading maybe I should look into another line of work?

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

"work"?

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

Also, yes, swimming = awes (John, I will totally take a water aerobics class with you OMG we could wear matching bathing caps!!!!!) (I am only half kidding here) for injured workouts AND Julia is correct in that a lot of gyms have recumbent bikes where you don't have to put any weight on your hands/arms/wrists but can just lean back and enjoy your People magazine.

Both of these ideas sound fantastic.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

yay!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

Train conductor?

xp OMG YAY

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

you know, I have given thought to becoming a trucker, but maybe train conductor would be more fun.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.fotosearch.com/comp/BDX/BDX396/bxp133145.jpg

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

wow. I have never wanted a bathing cap before but now I kind of do.

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

xpost - Do you not go when you're really sick? Or do you not get really sick?

-- KitCat, Wednesday, May 2, 2007 10:48 AM (10 minutes ago)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And also "while I still had... a job"? What happened?



when i get really sick i don't leave my apartment.

while i still had a job = before i quit and moved to chicago.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

i haven't thrown up since my worst hangover evah in college, when i not-so-wisely decided to have a tuna fish sandwich.

i don't eat tuna fish anymore.

xposts
arrrgh jenny, that sucks. you really need to find PTs/yoga instructors/etc that respect your limitations, because yeah, if you push yourself through some illnesses/injuries, you can fuck your sorry self up bigtime. i don't have any experience with this, oh no.

xp again omg i used to do water aerobics and i totally should have worn a swimming cap like that.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny, it's not that whiny! Damage is damange, MANG. I have vague foot problems that mean I can't walk or esp stand for long periods and they are sore like gangbusters every morning when I get out of bed. I hobble around the apt and bump into things until they stretch out, it used to make my ex-ex accuse me of being terminally clumsy but it was just PAIN. And NO ONE takes you seriously when you say you can't or don't want to WALK PLACES or go to shows if you have to STAND. I don't blame them, walking is a human necessity, RIGHT?

That might be the seed of my bike-love, actually -- I'd rather carry bike up & down the apartment stairs and lock and unlock it to go four blocks than just walk there.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever seen a doctor in my adult life because I was *sick*, like with the flu or whatever, but I have had a lot of ailments. I am also a hypochondriac.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

Laurel, the books you sent came! omg you are the best, thank you!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

I like reading. Can I have your job, horseshoe? I am guessing that it pays A LOT!

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

YES TAKE MY JOB AND MY EXAMS NICK! I AM ROLLING IN THE DOUGH!

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

Being a trucker would be like my worst nightmare come true - driving all the time... gross.

GUYS I am so happy. I was supposed to have lunch with a T3amst3r lawyer and I like him and was looking forward to it and all but it was the only reason I would have needed to leave the house today and he canceled and now I can stay home and finish my take home and drink coffee all day.

xp - Laurel, I used to have a similar foot problem where every morning when I'd get up I couldn't walk and it turned out to be from the shoes I wore all the time. Maybe you need to reevaluate your footwear. It is frustrating though, and I hear you on the sit down shows. (Just ask Jeff...)

And Julia, I think what irks me most is the yoga people. It's really hard for me to raise my hand when they ask the limitations question, just because I feel like an asshole (and like people aren't going to believe me) and when I do and the teacher ignores me it just makes me furious. I actually don't take classes at the closest studio to my house because out of four instructors that I tried, none of them were willing to work with me in any way.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

Meaning that yoga instructors, of all people, should be sympathetic to people with chronic injuries, or just more sympathetic in general.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

Also, John, don't forget to stretch before you do shit.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

Spreadsheet tells me that Laurel was diagnosed with plantar fasciitis?

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

Does it tell you that Nick puked sometime recently, breaking his streak? I seem to remember that.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

I have probably a dozen pairs of shoes I wear in rotation and some are definitely not sensible! But even on errands-days when I wear sneakers with full arch support, I'll be worse the next day. It's just walking, period.

XP: Yes had PF for a few years from a fall down stairs. It's mostly gone, now I just have overall soreness in balls & arches of feet.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

now I just have overall soreness in balls & arches of feet.


me too but it's not the arches of the feet that keeps me up at night.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

overall soreness in balls

Sounds like my prom night.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, bummer, Laurel. Changing shoes would be the easy fix.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

Damn you dirty minded boys.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

XPOST OBV.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

I can pretty much puke on command.

― Jeff, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

Highland is not helping. Also, weighing 160 lbs is not helping. Also, living in NYC where walking and standing for 1hr+ at a time on the trains is a daily standard is not helping. Whacha gonna do?

― Laurel, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

I puke from drinking a couple times a year, but I don't think I've puked from illness (like stomach flu) since I was 14.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

and the chicago thread keeps on coming full circle with us hearing about otto's balls.

― JuliaA, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

HEY LOOK:

Rod the God is going to sign a state-wide smoking ban, in effect January 1.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

I think this is funny:

Steve Riedl, executive director of the Illinois Licensed Beverage Association, maintained a ban will send smokers fleeing across state borders. He said only homogenized corporate-backed establishments will stay afloat at the expense of neighborhood bars "with great personality and charm."


How many Chicagoans are going to go to Gary because of the ban? And if smoking is banned everywhere, why would people leave their beloved locals to go to Benigans? It's not like they can smoke at either place.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

I'd wager that the places with the money/space will build outdoor smoking areas, if that is a viable loophole.

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

Mmmm maybe.

Alls I know is I'm going to practically fucking live at Joe's on Broadway now. No school, no smoking... Sorry, liver. You lose.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

I like that bar!

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

That was the one time, Jordan! The time a bunch of us went to Big Ch1cks (last summer I think).

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

Tell me about Joe's. I have never been there. I think the first time you mentioned it, I thought you were talking about the sports bar on Weed St. where, like, Gary Sinise's band plays.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

It's on the other side of Jewel from us. They have a screen door.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks, Jenny. You've painted such a vivid portrait for me.

That was the one time, Jordan! The time a bunch of us went to Big Ch1cks (last summer I think).

Oh yeah, that's because I got you guys drunk at my place first.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

It's kind of New Orleans-y! Screen door, hurricanes, etc. I liked it because it was quiet. Cons: annoying drunk regulars, route to bathroom goes through dart game

xpost

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

I blame that puking on the wine. I don't really drink wine, let alone multiple glasses.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry John. I thought the screen door kind of spoke for itself. It's divetastic, full of surly yet endearing regulars, and it offers a nice view of the bus stop. They might have a big front window that comes out, but I'm not entirely sure. It's the kind of place that has a magnetic pull for me when I walk by.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

They have a juke box, and you do have to go through the dart game to get to the bathroom but they are the plastic darts so you're only looking at a soft tissue injury, not a serious puncture wound.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

I would drink more at all this Joe's.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

The biggest con for me is that it's so smoky that it's almost painful. So yeah. Come on January 1.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

I once got a dart thrown into my shoulder. It stuck there until I pulled it out.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

So excited about lunch you guys.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

Cool, thanks for the descrip.

Oh, I forgot to mention (and this is of special note to JESSE): Kr and I went to PIER 5736 last night, and it was pretty great. Our waiter was this old dude who was beyond friendly (when we left the restaurant, he ran out to the sidewalk because he didn't have the chance to say goodbye), and the fish was stellar, too. We paid about $20 each for our entrees (I had halibut, which is only in season for like a month, according to the waiter), but there was also a special (every Tuesday and Sunday) in which five entrees on the menu were only $10 each. Also, all wine is half-off on Tuesdays, so we had a nice Pinot Noir, ordinarily priced at $33, that we got for $16.50. Tasty and unpretentious; only problem is that it's pretty far away (5736 N. Elston).

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

I like eating.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

Off to put my words into action...

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)

my inbox just told me someone is making me lasagna tonight. good deal for me.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

Niiiice.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

I had to work through lunch so I just dashed out and got a ham & cheese sub. It was okay.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

I made some fake indian food from a box and ate it with mild hot tortilla chips (multiculti!) then went to 'bucks for a coffee because my head feels like shit.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe you should go to the doctor?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to the Dr at 4.30. :(

― Laurel, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

Awesome. I have delegated this set of nagging duties to our friends. :-D

xpost - Sorry, Laurel.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

College papers are funny: Spoon, an indie band formed in 1994 in Austin, TX, have garnered their greatest accolades in the past ten years. Though they are slightly less established than the Roots, third-year MAB chairperson Justin Fleming explained the organization’s choice of Spoon as a response to the group’s popularity among University students, a factor MAB had measured through both word of mouth and Facebook.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

ok, that's not funny.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

Yes it is.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

Seems like a boilerplate college newspaper article.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

That's what's funny about it!

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

$20 for staff?? Fuck that!

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

Like it's funny because it's soooo college newspaper?

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

I have occasionally been amazed at the shit quality of the Maroon, especially in the Editorial section.

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

But what do I know, I went to a tech school.

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

Ahhh,training class, stop talking about collecting sputum, I just ate mayonnaise!

(lol, funny article is funny)

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

It makes me think of an inquest where explanations are being demanded for the expenditure of funds on this "Spoon"

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

PS we are playing Summer Breeze. But the part where we are playing is during the day and outside, vs. the big bands (spoon and roots) who are playing inside at night. I hope we get in to see Spoon for free though.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

Oh man, maybe I will head over there and see what I can see.

Do you guys need to borrow equipment? My offer about the drums still stands.

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, we're getting together tomorrow night (avec Ben) to figure out what we need to borrow/buy and from whom in order to play our upcoming shows. It looks like we'll be able to practice a little at our friend Max's new space.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

The offer is much appreciated, by the way. Are you not playing them at all these days? What is your kit like? I mean, what pieces do you have?

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

I know Jordan has some too we can use, but not a full kit.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

I have a 4 piece Pearl, pretty standard. 22" bass, 16" floor tom, 14" rack tom, Yamaha Maple snare, Gibraltar hardware, 22" Zildjan A Custom "Projection" ride, 17" Zildjan A Custion "Projection" crash, 16" Zildjan A thin crash, 14" Zildjan A Rock hihats. The only thing that kind of sucks is my hihat stand, I wore out the spring so it doesn't open or close too easily.

Wow, I feel like I'm writing in to Modern Drummer or some shit listing all that stuff out like that.

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks, Dan. I just copied that all to Benhameeeen.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I have another ride, an 18" Zildjan K, that I don't really use because it is too quiet for my playing.

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

You mean because your playing is light?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone know what standard airline policy is for number of checked bags? Will they charge me for checking more than 2?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

I think so, Jordan -- I think two checked plus one carry-on is the limit.

― Laurel, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

xxpost

Well, not exactly. In order to get a good, ride-y response from it I have to play much lighter on the cymbal, which, due to the types of ensembles I tend to be part of, isn't really an option most of the time. If I were playing teh jass or used it as an accent/effect type cymbal it would be useful, but I don't have the stands or the right group to justify having it as part of the main kit. It's a nice cymbal, though, and (just like Clipse) I got it for cheap!

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

Don Larsen, chairman of legislative District 65 for the Utah County Republican Party, had submitted a resolution warning that Satan's minions want to eliminate national borders and do away with sovereignty.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

That Mormon program was pretty good btw.

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

Good one.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

There is a married couple in my training class and they hold hands when they walk down the hall on breaks. Gross.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:28 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

Hey dudes/dudettes, is anyone interested in either of these two shows?

TAPES 'N TAPES, HARLEM SHAKES, LADYHAWK
Abbey Pub, 5/12

ELECTRELANE, THE BLOW
Empty Bottle, 5/22

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

'Cause I am.

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

I'm interested in seeing Radio Birdman, but I don't think it's until July. I just saw about it yesterday.

― stingy, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

Does someone (Dan or Eazy) want to send me an Electrelane album? I like what I've heard so far...

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

Sure, John, I will.

For the first show I'm really only interested in Harlem Shakes, although I have heard some good things 'bout Tapes 'n Tapes.

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

I'd be up for the electrelane show, Dan. (Seeing bjork on may 12th)

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

I'm really curious to hear more Harlem Shakes, I've loved the two songs I've heard KEXP play. Do they have anything official out?

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, they have a 6-song EP out called Burning Birthdays.

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

It's on Amazon for $6.

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks. I suppose I could have Googled for myself, but I was under the impression that they hadn't released much of anything yet.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

That's all I know of. I only learned about them from a friend who saw them open for some other band down in Nashville.

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

Guys, you know in those movies when they bury someone alive by accident because - oh no! - they took that poison that only makes them seem dead? And, let's pretend that in those cases the people look like zombies? ie: they actually look dead??

Well, Nick is at home. He just brought in our guitars and plugged them in our wee practice amp and GUESS WHAT. They make noise. We don't know if they'll have tuning issues and they definitely don't look great, but we'll shine 'em up and try them at practice.

In conclusion, YAY.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

noise or notes?

because i had a strat once that was definitely able to make noise but apparently unable to transmit the sound of the vibrating string to the amplifier.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

Just like cell phones! Dry 'em out for a couple days and they're mostly cool.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

I'm guessing notes since Nick was optimistic. I'm crossing my fingers.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

Woohoo! Who knows, maybe they'll just need some new wiring or pots?

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks, Dan!

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

I hope that's it!

This makes me feel a wee bit guilty for lusting after Fender Mustang basses online, but only a wee bit.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

This makes me feel a wee bit guilty for lusting after Fender Mustang basses online, but only a wee bit.

lou barlow played one with dinosaur. i've wanted one for 15 years.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

belmont station house on the hoof.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

so nobody knows what the fuck was up with my alligator dreams, huh?

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

Dream interpretation is for hippies. Your dreams mean you are scared of alligators.

Yes, the guitars seem to be functional. I tested them really quickly because they are filthy and I didn't want to hold them. My Vantage, Sarah's SG and Sarah's Danelectro bass all worked. My guitar has a crack/dent where the neck meets the body in the back but I'm hopeful that it's just in the finish, not in the wood.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

that's really awesome news. amps still fucked though i take it? tolex isn't quite as protective as wood i'm guessing.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

Are the drums completely unsalvageable? I.e. beyond the help of new heads and new lugs/rims (and maybe a new wrap, although at that point why not just get a new drum I guess)?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

Well, we didn't even bother taking the bass amp out the space because it was mutilated. Nick's current amp had holes in it, but we put it on a truck to go into storage just in case (and because he hasn't even paid it off yet).

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

The drums were completely filled with water and the hardware was rusted over/ bent.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

The dudes from the practice space took the amps and drums off in a truck to a storage space somewhere. We abandoned the bass amp at the space, it was nearest the wall and covered in broken glass. The speaker cover on my amp was torn and I'm sure at least the tubes are all cracked, plus it was plugged in so if there was any weird electricity stuff it would have been fucked. I don't know anything about drums.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know nuffin bout no drums though.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha xpost

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

I'll bet the drums are at least worth taking a look at, but who knows.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sure Ben will check 'em out soon, especially since they were vintage and pretty.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

Of course, first we need to find out where they are stored...

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

Time to go buy some liquor for the day that is exactly a month from today.

― KitCat, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

BUY MORE GIN THAN YOU THINK YOU'LL NEED!!!!

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

just saying...

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

lol wtf how did I end up listening to Elliot?

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

I sent Jenny an email about this, but have not heard any response, so I will tell yous guys:

Courtney and I went to Kon@k Pukestub last night to check out accomodations for the party and the bartender named Uz ("ooz") was very nice and told us that we could have one side of the place. I asked if we could have the non-smoking area, but he told us that the non-smoking part of the restaurant/bar is also a part in which eating is forbidden, which I thought was kind of unusual. Anyway, we can eat and drink and be merry in one part, and simply drink and be merry in the non-smoking part in the other part, and puke violently in all parts.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

I have a question. What is the deal with us needing non-smoking areas (cf. the time we met up at Galway Arms that one time)? I don't mean to criticize, I'm just curious.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

"the time ... that one time" = you know, a few weeks ago?

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

It's Jenny's party and she wanted non-smoking. And at the Galway Arms Jenny wanted non-smoking too.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

And no one felt like countering her.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

I don't care about the party, or at least I've never said that I wanted a nonsmoking party. Although I find it way beyond bizarre that the part where you can smoke is only the only part where you can eat. Are you sure you don't have that backwards, Jesse? Because I think that the law is that a restaurant must have a nonsmoking area...

I wanted nonsmoking when we went to the Galway Arms because I was sick and didn't want to sit around breathing smoke all night, thus getting sicker.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

And yay for less damage than you thought! PHEW.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

OK, cool, thanks for the info.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

I need a baby. Or I need to look at a baby's feet. I'm trying to make booties for my friend Matt's new baby and I have no idea if this is right. It seems bizarre but babies are pretty weird so who knows. Maybe I'll go to Jewel and see if anybody will let me put my booty on their baby.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

I'm completely sure because I thought it was odd, so I asked him again. The smoking area has tables with ashtrays on them, but the clearly marked non-smoking area has couches. I'm assuming that's why you can't smoke there.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

OK, so about my tooth... It fell out again, which is not a huge surprise, but then it wouldn't fit in, though after a lot of cursing and pushing, I found out how it works, and it's back in, though not cemented. Anyway, I called the dentist this morning to stop in to have it replaced, and GUESS WHAT-- they are closed the ENTIRE WEEK. This is the same office that told me to come in at 1:30 and then left at 1:00 on a Friday (their regular hours are only till 2:00), then was randomly closed on a Tuesday last week. Do these fuckers ever work? It seems to me that they are like a boutique dentist or something that is happy to have only one DMD on staff, to have cute offices, and to keep luxurious hours.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

Why can't everybody have their babies from October through March so I can just make them all hats?

xp - that's fucking retarded. I'm calling the police on them.

xxp - the bar, not your dentist, but I might as well call the police on them, too, while I'm at it.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

I've only been to Konak once, so I don't remember what their deal is. No wait, TWICE -- I think I went there with Leeeeee after seeing a Neo-Futurists performance. How weird is that? Anyway, it's pretty funny how it's like not a bad bar at all, but because it's sandwiched between Hopleaf and Simon's, there's hardly anybody in there ever. Like, Hopleaf could be overflowing with loud, boisterous crowds and there'd be some random old dude watching the Cubs game next door at Konak and that's it.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

Oh! I think I've been to Konak. It was once last summer and all I remember was their beer was sort of overpriced and the place was fucking swelteringly hot inside. This was around the time of the Touch & Go fest.

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)

I would like to see some provision in the smoking law that allows for establishments that allow indoor smoking. A place in which the owners, staff, and patrons are all dedicated to the pleasure of cigarettes and/or booze, and/or food. Those who don't appreciate such things could go to another establishment that doesn't permit smoking.

Alternatively, I would to see smoke eaters being given a fair chance. If a smoke eater can purify the air to the point that it matches the quality of outdoor air, then where is the problem? The problem is that what's in motion is a big giant slippery slope of prohibition.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:13 (eighteen years ago)

Konak is BLUUUUUUE. It's the bluest place I've ever been. Blue walls, blue lights, blue accessories, and when you go to the bathroom, the toilet itself is blue.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

Why don't you march against it or something

― Jeff, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

lol

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)

Have you ever in all of your bar-going years seen a smoke eater that purifies the air to the point that it matches the air quality outdoors?

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)

After the smoking ban is in place Joe's will likely do what dive bars in other cities have done--break the law.

They could do it, from what I understand from the big smoke debate of last year, but no one has had any reason to install them.
smoketrap

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)

I would gladly march in defense of smoking.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:16 (eighteen years ago)

I would also as gladly donate time and funds to the defense of smokers' rights as I do to any other campaigns such as workers' rights or immigrant rights.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

That's too bad.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/3671/dsc01145fp1.jpg

Does that look like it would fit your average baby?

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

Hey that's almost true to size.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

Your average patriotic baby.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe I should put a little "Smokers' Rights" symbol on it.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:22 (eighteen years ago)

They have a symbol now?

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

Let me guess, it's Lady Justice with a few packs of Marbs and some lighters on her scales, and an unfiltered Camel drooping out of her mouth.

― dan m, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:25 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.smokershaverights.com/images/Style61.jpg

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:40 (eighteen years ago)

Bears eat butts

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:45 (eighteen years ago)

Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of the air outside, I went for a 25-mile bike ride on Saturday and by the time I got home, all parts of my body that had been sweating and exposed to the air were coated in black grit. And that's not even starting on what happened when I blew my nose. So I think Jesse's protest is, if not the whole story, at least not illogical. (The whole story being something like "well, if we CAN have cleaner air indoors, we should do it to at least MINIMIZE our exposure to pollutants.")

― Laurel, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:43 (eighteen years ago)

If anyone is interested, here's the full text of the bill as it stands right now (although what Rod signs could end up being different). They address the smoke eater argument in the "Findings."

― Jenny, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:47 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny and I just solved the smoking ban issue. It got heated, but we came to a surprising compromise! One that will never, ever come to reality.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:53 (eighteen years ago)

I'm tempted to go for a run...common sense says that excercise right now would put me over the edge into "excessive" and not be very good for my body.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:54 (eighteen years ago)

Then don't do it. Pace yo'self.

― La Lechera, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:55 (eighteen years ago)

Darling, I don't know why I go to extremes....

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:03 (eighteen years ago)

Because you're a piano man?

― La Lechera, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:04 (eighteen years ago)

You may be right, and it just may be a loooooonatic you're looking for.

I'm so sunburned. Oooh, speaking of which, I can't wait to go to a tanning bed to even this shit up.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:05 (eighteen years ago)

Join with me for a moment of prayer, "Dear non-specific Interfaith Deity, in one week I have a job interview. Please let me get that job or you'll find out what "God is dead' really means."

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:06 (eighteen years ago)

ugh i have to write 30+ more presentation evaluations tonight

tonight tonight tonight
whoa-oh

― La Lechera, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:09 (eighteen years ago)

I was listening to TAL and they had a thing about the suspension of habeus corpus at Guantanemo, and there was a British historian who was talking about the Puritans and how they tried to kill the king in order to hasten the 2nd coming and how their habeus corpus rights were suspended 300 years ago. Anyway, he said, "I know how you Americans think that the Puritans were fine folks who had dinner with Native Americans, but here in England we remember them as bastards." I found that surprisingly harsh.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:09 (eighteen years ago)

He called them "religious wackos" who went to America because they felt that their freedom to practice their religion was being restricted, but then he said that their idea of religion was to kill the king, etc.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:11 (eighteen years ago)

He is a tour guide at Westminster Abbey, and he said that he was leading American tourists around the graveyard and one saw Charles Darwin's tombstone and she spat on it.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:12 (eighteen years ago)

there was a really interesting looking girl on the bus this evening and for the life of me i can't tell if she was iconoclastic or just a junkie. either way it was the highlight of my day.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:23 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe she was retarded.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:27 (eighteen years ago)

no, we can pick each other out of crowds. we're clannish that way. junkie or trendsetter, had to be.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:31 (eighteen years ago)

Calculators are a lot better than now than they were when I was in high school.

― Jeff, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:38 (eighteen years ago)

ok, i'm looking alright, smelling good, and feeling ok. i'm off to get a bottle of wine and then eat some fucking dinner. wish me luck.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:51 (eighteen years ago)

Good luck finding some wine.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 01:31 (eighteen years ago)

Rather than taking a run I have used my energy to gut my closets and move the shit from my old dresser into my new but much older dresser that was my parents'. The new old dresser is not much to look at but I'm glad to have it because it is the one significant possession that my grandparents brought over from Germany in the 1880s, or at least the last remaining one that anyone is aware of.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 01:33 (eighteen years ago)

Can I tell you a Joseph-the-annoying flower-shop-boss story? OK--he met a guy online and they IMed and chatted via webcam. The guy was Indian and Joseph would tell me everything he said, employing the same stupid, creepy accent that he used when he talked to those for whom English was a second language: "I was telling him [insert officious, unsolicited advice/opinion] and he said, 'Yoo cood pees off Jesus' so I said, 'You mean that you don't think I really am Jesus?'"

After telling me this, Joseph paused, waiting for a reaction and positively beamed in a way that repulsed and embarrassed me.

You had to know him to understand why I felt sickened, but as context, I'll tell you, this is a guy who told me in hushed tones, as a means of seducing me, that a. as a child he had blown up an FBI computer with his mind while they held him against his will to solve murders with his psychic abilities, and b. when he didn't want to go on family vacation at age 13, his parents had locked him in the trunk of the car and driven him (400 miles) to the beach without letting him out. Keep this in mind when I tell you that I think he was so delusional that he was honestly trying to plant a seed to make me think that just maybehe might actually be the Son of God.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 01:56 (eighteen years ago)

If I had a blog, I might have posted that there.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 02:03 (eighteen years ago)

You deserve a blog, Jesse. Join the LJ world.

I used to go to Konak a lot when I lived in Andersonville. They have an excellent grilled chicken sandwich with fries. The mix there at least used to be Bosnians and theater people. I used to shoot pool there a lot, usually with a guy named 'toine/Twan who was an actor in Bad Boys, the Sean Pean juvie one, when he was a kid.

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 04:27 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, my high-school pal C. T@born is playing the Pitchfork Fest, nice.

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 04:47 (eighteen years ago)

Konak's hummus was good. You know what's weird? They had truly delicious celery sticks! And I hate celery. Now THAT'S weird!!!!!!!!

Did I tell you that I found out that my maternal grandfather and great grandfather were Freemasons? Mexican Freemasons, of all things.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 04:56 (eighteen years ago)

Also, I have a LJ account, as well as a Blogger account, and Blogspot too, I think. Plus Jenny bought me webspace for a year for my very own big-boy blog, but I let it languish and it went out with a whimper. My blogging takes place on message boards.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 04:58 (eighteen years ago)

i left home with an empty stomach and came back fed, drunk, stoned, with girl scout cookies and dvds and a copy of the television demo tapes and a lost pair of shorts. things could always be worse, i should remember that.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 05:07 (eighteen years ago)

Question: What is your definition of a "prophetic" or the word "prophetic"?

At God Camp last year this word was used a lot and they told us that a prophet is "one who speaks truth to power." And on the website for the New S@nctuary Movement they say that one of their roles is to provide "prophetic hospitality," to include food, shelter, legal help, and other tangible assistance.

This notion of prophecy is way different what I grew up understanding (and from what the dimwit religious nut intern thought too), which was that a prophet is pretty much a psychic for Jesus.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 12:33 (eighteen years ago)

sometimes words have two meanings </robert plant>.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)

I guess I will look it up (once I'm done watching Lost) but it sounded to me as though they were "reclaiming" a word, i.e., making it sound less nutty and more helpy.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know if they're so much reclaiming it as using it as a metaphor. Like you could call someone a "warrior" for surviving cancer without literally meaning that they went out and fought a battle with weapons and armor.

― n/a, Thursday, 3 May 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

god, i hate myself so much.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 13:53 (eighteen years ago)

I always think of nutty psychics for Jesus a la John who wrote Revelations when I hear "prophecy." This is probably because of horror movies.

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

i'm feeling pretty good, i ate well, fell asleep as soon as i went to bed, had no alligator-involved nightmares, woke up early enough to make some coffee (i'd programed it but my coffee maker was an hour behind ;_;) got to work early and have been getting shit done. i'm sorry to hear you're not feeling so hot kenan.

two more days 'til the weekend.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

Remember AMEDB? (African-Methodist Episcopalean DB? aka the bane of my existence in NO?) She said that a prophet in her church told her that she had the gift of prophecy too, and a prophet's gift is the ability to see things others don't, such as being able to see a person's true nature.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

I'm watching LOST, and I am very pleased that the show is finally getting out of its fucking rut.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know, Jesse, I think they're just wrong. Based on nothing more than my own feelings about the word and its use in godly circles and my general knowledge. I think they'd probably have been better off with some permutation of "disciple".

...oh, unless! well, it depends on whether "propehetic" is supposed to refer to the helping organization or the seeker of sanctuary. Maybe they mean that they offer the same kind of hospitality as the early church offered to prophets, holy men? But holy men took that aid as their due, in return for giving up worldly success and security...whereas people in need of food, shelter, and aid in these modern times are almost definitely GAGGING for worldly security. We're not so crazy about holy madness these days.

― Laurel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

I am goofy - I just realized that the day I had thought about having my birthday BBQ, May 19, is the day we're playing that U of C festival thing. So it's looking like Sunday, May 20, would be the more likely day. Would that generally work for people (other than Jeff & Jenny)?

― n/a, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

any day is a good day for a bbq.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

any day everyday is a good day for a bbq.

fixed.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

I know I'm not allowed to say much about LOST, but this is the first episode that put a tear in my eye.

At God Camp the standard definition of "prophet" seemed to be "one who speaks truth to power." I wonder if it's some kind of liberation theology thing. This really great Catholic Social Teachings speaker asked the room, "What is the definition of a prophet?" And there was chorus of, "one who speaks truth to power." Apparently this is what Daniel was supposedly doing, and not fortelling the future?

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

Back to LOST.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder if I woke up in the middle of weird Euro sex dreams because my cat was going nuts or if the dreams woke me up and then I couldn't get back to sleep b/c of the cat.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

I'm listening to this new brass band cd (one of the young bands bootlegging themselves really) and there are some hot versions of 'Night Trip' and 'Just My Imagination'.

I would have posted this on my blog except I don't post much on my blog anymore.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

I had an amazing dream that I wrote down--it took 2 pages. Mental patients in a below-ground 1800s mental institution were released when there was a fire, but the French launched rockets at them and 2 of them became ghosts and it became clear that they were lovers who were not crazy but just homos. Their ghosts transformed into spray paint cans, one black, one white, and they would spray each other while debating whether humans would make it in the long run--the white can of paint held that human reason was advancing all the time, the black one said that wars and inhumanity was advancing as quickly.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

You should make that into a webcomic.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

There were musical numbers in the dream. When I woke up the 2 guys had become TV sets and were pointing out their features, singing them to the tune of Built To Spill's "Sidewalk."

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

It was really a noteworthy dream. When I woke up I thought of Eric Z. and how he could adapt it into a feasible script.

This is what happens every time I take a dose of Paxil after missing a couple.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

It's Friday for me!

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

I gave up on those goofy looking booties and now I'm making these because they are more structured and while they look kind of granny pants in the pictured colors they are working up super cuet in that red/white/blue variegated yarn I'm using. Also I love that daisy stitch because you have to keep everything really lose and I am a tight and tense crocheter and it's forcing my hands to take a much needed break.

I really liked Lost, too.

And back to a totally different conversation... I can't find that Mormon Frontline episode on our cable. :( I can watch it on the internet, but still. :(

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

Kenan, Stop hating yourself NOW!

I am not a fan of cigarette smoke. However, I am not sure I understand why this issue is getting so much attention when there is so much pollution going on outside that we are seeing GLOBAL DIMMING. From what little research I've done, it appears that global warming & global dimming need to be tackled together or else working on just one might increase the other (ie: reducing pollutants in the air would increase temps because the sun's warmth would have less obstacles, if I'm getting that right...)

I don't think all smaller issues should be abandoned or aren't at all important, however.

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

Also, I love them baby booties.

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

Jenny, do you have a VCR? It looks like I succesfully taped the Mormon Frontlines. You can borrow the tape when we're done watching, if you want. Or you can watch it at our place.

― n/a, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

http://images.evalu8.org/images/maille_ancienne280.jpg

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

INT. DINER DAY

(JOE sits in a booth, speaking to LILY, who wears a Harley t-shirt and is watching half-and-half dissipate in her coffee cup.)

JOE: I had an amazing dream that I wrote down--it took 2 pages. Mental patients in a below-ground 1800s mental institution were released when there was a fire, but the French launched rockets at them, and two of them became ghosts, and it became clear that they were lovers who were not --

LILY: Joe.

JOE: What?

LILY: I told you not to --

JOE: Listen. Not crazy but just homos. Their ghosts transformed into spray paint cans, one black, one white, and they would spray each other while debating whether humans would make it in the long run.

LILY (tearing up): In the long run.

JOE: The white can of paint held that human reason was advancing all the time, the black one said that wars and inhumanity was advancing as quickly.

(WAITRESS arrives.)

WAITRESS: Eggs for you aaaand pancakes for you.

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

We do not have a VCR.

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

Also: LOL @ EZ.

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

Cooks' Illustrated did a test of a variety of Dijon mustards and the best ones in their test were American.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

Grey Poupon scored very high.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

I am making a doctor's appointment to tell him that I hate myself. And he will tell me that there's tons of sugar and protein in my urine, because my kidneys are slowly failing.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

What is that from, Eric? I like it.

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

We do not have a VCR.

I know, it's silly, right? If I had one, I could watch LOST the night of instead of the night after. Actually, I probably won't be able to watch it tonight, either, because we have a show at the ABBEY PUB tonight that you should all come to. But I'm taking the day off tomorrow, so I'll probably watch it tomorrow morning.

― jaymc, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah, read upthread (it's Jesse's dream).

― jaymc, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

I want Eric to write a play for me to star in. I decided I should be a famous actor, OK?

― n/a, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

Ooh. Starl1ght M1nts show? I really liked them at the wickrparkfest.

Riddle me this. Why are they planning on putting a black warning on anti-depressents that they might lead to suicidal thoughts? I mean, wouldn't people who are put on those be more likely to try to commit suicide anyway? How can they show that the pills might INCREASE that likelihood? (This coming from someone who was on Zol0ft then Pax1l for about 4 years)

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah. I seem to have not read Jesse's dream. Sorry about that.

That's a wonderful adaptation though!

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, Starrrrliiiight Minnnnts.

― jaymc, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

(I am glad to hear that LOST was good, though. It saves me from asking.)

― jaymc, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

You can star in Jesse's Dream, Nick.

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

I like St@rlight M1nts.

― n/a, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

Can I be "Waitress"?

― n/a, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

Oh fuck, I just found out that I offended someone "important" with an email, so much so that he went over my head to my boss to question my conduct. And I wasn't even TRYING to be testy, in fact I thought I was being kind of grossly cutesy (for me). Lesson #0854625 in the fact that my peers are inured to understatement and can take a hell of a lot more than people in the real world, especially the Real World as found in the Midwest.

― Laurel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

Now I'm mad. I was only raising one eyebrow when I sent that email, but NOW I'm angry. Jerk.

― Laurel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

More of a character-actor part, Nick, but you could pull it off.

You should perform your man-wakes-up story again sometime that you did at Squeezed.

xp - Interesting, 'cause I think of New Yorkers as loving conflict, but I guess they can't take it Great Lakes Style. (My stereotype of New Yorkers is that they're always fighting, like Capturing the Friedmans.)

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

xp: Laurel - What happened to addressing people directly? It wasn't cool to tattle in 4th grade, and it's not cool now. This is one of my all-time professional-matt pet peeves.

― mattttt, Thursday, 3 May 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

Eric, I think we're misunderstanding each other? This guy is in Indiana. My friends and colleagues in NY, even those a generation older than me, are either already down w/ sarcasm & directness, or have gotten used to it over the years I've known them. I suspect executives in Indiana are more likely to take umbrage if they think someone's not being sufficiently respectful, etc.

― Laurel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

I tend to tattle down the chain of command, not up it. When a boss pisses me off, I talk to the lesser boss about it. All I'm looking for is commiseration.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

Which I guess is not really tattling at all.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

It's true that I have this bad habit of being more considerate to my peers and those I out-rank than I am to anyone above me. I think I figure that they're already all IMPORTANT AN' SHIT, they can take it.

― Laurel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, Laurel, I had it mixed up, I thought the guy was in NY.

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

Ok, the new Dinosaur Jr. record is fucking awesome. Downside: it's also an open invitation to self-pity.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

ok where is everybody. the fifth element thread is dead, and i don't want to get into a "porn debate".

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

I am here. I've been hopping all over the office this morning. Not literally.

Bossman is in an awful mood because he just received a DHL bill from a partner company for $2800 for ONE MONTH. Ouch.

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

I just got out of a meeting. It was the quarterly Journals Divison meeting where the managers get up and talk about revenues and expenses and that kind of nonsense that no-one among the normal rank and file staff cares about. Then they touched on the fact that dozens of us are losing our jobs as a result of their mismanagment, and tried to smooth over the issue a bit. I don't think many people bought it, and in fact the most applause was given following a comment that was highly critical of current management. Too bad all this sentiment is coming out after the axe has already fallen on our livelihood.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

Hi dere. I had such a nice visit to Chicago--I wish I could have stayed all week ;__;

― quincie, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

it was a pleasure meeting you too. next time you're in town we'll go to a non-shitty bar perhaps. one with not so much rhcp maybe. or even one where someone doesn't pay $4.00 for a pbr. wtf?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I forgot - Jordan OTM re: mustard. That stuff's the bomb.

xpost: Yeah, next time I will postpone attempting to get laid and come out for the bro-down.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

I heard more rhcp that night than in the entire year prior. But I would drink all these beers with all of you anytime, anywhere!

― quincie, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sorry I couldn't make it to meet you, quincie. you should come back!

― horseshoe, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

awesome. i'm going back east again in the fall with some friends, if they play dc instead of baltimore this time i'll definitely let you dcilxors know.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

Laurel, I camouflage the Real Me AT ALL TIMES at work. Worth considering.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

note: "the Real Me" is morbs' nickname for his penis.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

that bar was terrible, but it was conveniently located. Next time we'll make everyone get on the train so we can go somewhere kiedis-less.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

Dan, that is the worst, THE WORST. Fuck that. All company meetings are that way, I think, altho sometimes minus the promise of layoffs (although there's often a sort of veiled threat of them, anyway). Our company meetings are always structured as "CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU ALL FOR YR HARD WORK, you exceeded projections for this quarter and we appreciate you, really we do. The bad news is that your insurance and other expenses are up, too, so you won't actually benefit from having exceeded projections (altho We the Executives sure are glad we're getting those bonuses so hey, THANKS!)."

Morbs, I am the Real Me at all times. It's why dating is such a pain in my ass, altho as my friend Carly says, "Being yourself is the best filter."

― Laurel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

WHAT YOU GOT TO GOTTA GIVE IT TO YOUR MOMMA
WHAT YOU GOT TO GOTTA GIVE IT TO YOUR POPPA

― n/a, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

WHAT I'D LIKE IS I'D LIKE TO HUG AND KISS YOU

― n/a, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah, that's much better

― n/a, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

anyone up for some mild TT action tonight? it's too nice to just go home and clean my apartment, and i think i could do a much better job of it if i had a slight buzz going.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

"Being yourself is the best filter."

not if you're an asshole.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

what's going on saturday? who wants to get together for drinks and derby? last year there was some extreme gambling going on at a venue that shall remain nameless that was a ton of fun but i haven't talked to anyone to see if it's happening this year.

if you want we can segue the derby into the test patterns/lynards innards show at ronnys.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

I think we're busy tonight. We're either going to be practicing at the Ice Factory or picking up our burnt and soiled equipment and taking it to Specimen to see what can be repaired.

Ben has already purchased most of a new drum set. He is crazy! Sarah is going to buy the same bass amp we already had, she is crazy too!

― n/a, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

Ha, Laurel, you're right, except we are not an actual company! Which of course makes it all the more distasteful to hear them going on about this crap. The only bright spot wrt layoffs is that they keep saying that the U is going to take care of us either with help/favoritism in finding new positions here, or with "generous" severance packages for those who stay on until the end. The U has deep pockets, of course, so we'll see how "generous" they really feel.

I could be convinced to mildy quench my Thursday thirst today... I have plans Saturday.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

A stupid fire won't get in our way.

It will be so bizarro suddenly practicing in a different space (looking this weekend) with different gear.

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

... and with insurance.

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

dan, tuman's patio is open if you're up for outdoor beer drinking.

xpost- there's a space at sacramento & carrol that a lot of friends use that's pretty big, very safe, FIREPROOF (allegedly), and relatively cheap.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

"mild TT action" is kevin's name for biting just hard enough?

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

mustard > bros > hos?

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

Last night I had dinner with some friends at a very German restaurant in Lincoln Square. Plenty of good mustard and horseradish was available. I had a Bavarian-style grilled meatloaf with a fried egg on top! Hello, expanding waistline.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

"mild TT action" is kevin's name for biting just hard enough?

titty twisting morbs, titty twisting.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

testes titillation

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

maybe I will just stay home

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

ok, no biggie!

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

I'm just sayin'... all I want is a beer or three.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

Do you ever find yourself listening to something really old that you used to like, and being suddenly embarrassed of your former self? I mean, seriously, Thievery Corporation?

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

hey man, i saw rush twice in high school. no sense running from the past, you are what your experiences made you.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:19 (eighteen years ago)

This is true. If I had never listened to lots of fake-ass acid-jazz trip-hop mellow-yellow bullshit, I might still think it's cool.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/219/482778658_bdfb8977ff_o.jpg

Where was I? Why buying that lovely cedar chest for $35 at the Brown Elephant. SCORE! Now who has a dolly I can borrow to wheel that fucker home?

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

I watched a Portishead dvd last week and then listened to the accompanying live album, which I already loved. I don't think they're bullshit though.

I listened to some really embarassing prog rock and metal school that I will not elaborate on.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

I do not regret any of my musical choices in life.

Jenny, I have a station wagon, but... will that fit? I can't say. You're welcome to try.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

Portishead holds up very well. As does Tricky and Massive Attack, none of that Bristol stuff is embarrassing. It's just that I spread myself too thin on one little corner of sound and thought it was representative of all electronic music, and ended up listening to some real wallpaper-y bullocks.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

Also:

1. RE: antidepressants. Certain antidepressants make teenagers/kids suicidal kind of like how ritalin, which is speed, calms them down. Oh brain chemistry, thou art complex.

2. Pippins isn't my favorite bar by a long shot but for the area I think it's pretty good. The jukebox is reasonable when not taken over by a raving RHCP fan and you can always get a seat in there.

3. "dcilxors" reads as "dick lickers" to me.

4. "...come out for the bro-down." ;_;

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

you're a #1 bro, too, jenny. Don't be sad.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

That chest is four feet long and 19 inches deep and we live three, maybe four blocks away from the Brown Elephant. If you feel like driving up here, I will make it fit and buy you beverages. However, I don't want you to put yourself out - we can get an I-Go car pretty easily.

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

jenny, tt action?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

girls can be bros

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

Why don't we all call each other sister, then? I like that better.

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

All the girls on this thread are bros.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

Let me finish this here take home, Kevin, and I will get back to you.

All the dudes on this thread are my sisters.

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:31 (eighteen years ago)

Que OTM. Didn't quincie call you guys #1 A+++ bros or something similar?

Jenny, just offering. I don't know if I could do it before the weekend, so whatever works.

xpost omg SISTAZZZ

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

oh my god, I downloaded a G-Stone records promo sampler, remember Kruder + Dorfmeister? Anyway, the whole thing is just unlistenable. It made me sad. Oh youth, where do you disappear to?

I'll stop being off-topic now.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

But enough about my opposition to male normativity in English usage.

LOOK AT MY $35 CEDAR CHEST!

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

I don't want to objectify your "cedar" chest.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

JENNY FINISH THAT GODDAMN TEST.

unless the take home you were referring to was pad thai or something.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

I don't want to objectify your "cedar" chest.

LOL!!

I have a number of tests, which is why it seems to be taking forever. This time next week? It will ALL BE OVER.

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

man, i've still got the mashed potato monkey on my back. i'm working a serious jones over here. it's like a nic fit but for spuds.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

Mashed potatoes are super easy to make.

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

not without potatoes.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

True. You would need to buy potatoes to make mashed potatoes.

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

yes, i didn't pick up any potatoes on my way to work today. ;_;

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

mac's has gmp but no outdoor drinking area. tuman's has outdoor seating but no gmp. club foot is midway between both and has neither.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

Kevin, go to Bu0n@ T3rr@ sometime and get the Pollo Afumicatto... it comes with pesto mashed potatos.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

GMP? Good mashed potatoes?

Who speaks Spanish?

Use agua tibia.
No exprimir.

I'm guessing that's "Use warm water" and don't... wring?

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, you got it.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

cheesy garlic mashed potatoes

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

hey dere fake fictions on chicagoist!

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

Do you ever find yourself listening to something really old that you used to like, and being suddenly embarrassed of your former self?

As I was going to sleep last night I was thinking about how I went and saw the on-campus ska band while in college ... multiple times ... and skanked. ;_; I got so embarassed with myself that I had trouble falling asleep.

― n/a, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

Hell, I was in the on-campus ska band, but I don't lose sleep over it. We made a lot of cash and played a lot of good shows, and oh yeah... the girls.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

ska band names please

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

not again

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

My high school ska band was Jumpin' Jupiter, not too embarassing

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

think again jordan.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

The one at W&M was the Velveteens.

― n/a, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

Skazophrenia

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

Well at least it didn't have ska in the name.

My abs are sore and it hurts to laugh.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

skacupuncture

― Mr. Que, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

Ska Capella

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

Ska'd for Life

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

I gotta edit some transcripts later today, so can't do TTs unless something gets cancelled. Free nights up ahead though, if we want to hit a beer garden when it warms up a little more.

In the way that the music on KCRW makes total sense driving around L.A., Thievery Corporation makes total sense in Washington D.C. International, a little polished/dull, a little catchy...(Though reading about electronica and ska regret makes me feel better about listening to Emmylou Harris during those years.)

The FFs should cover Blood Sugar Sex Magik in its entirety. I'd like to hear Sarah sing "Under The Bridge".

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

ska band names please

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=47026

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

And Nick changing the "Give It Away" vocals from dancehall to his semi-deadpan style would be a treat: "What I've got you've got to give it to your mother," etc.

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe Sarah could take a Slap Bass Theory course at the Old Town School first.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

K College campus ska band:

The Illustrious Skunk

Because, geddit, they combined SKA with FUNK.

― jaymc, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

I love me some UNDER THE BRIDGE.

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

There will be no slapping.

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.public.iastate.edu/%7Eparmen/pictures/Slap.jpg

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.fcps.edu/westspringfieldhs/academic/perf/theatre/Photo%2520Gallery/MooseSlapBass2.jpg

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

SUP

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

That guy is so mysterious, hiding under his cap like that.

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

Aw, goofy upright slap bass photo doesn't show. :(

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

My new online radio is youtube.

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

So I'm listening to underthebridge now. I had to g00gleproof that shit. You never know...

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

Someone pls remind me to take my pizza out of the fridge before I go home, it's my dinner and if I forget it I will be crushed.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan, please take your pizza out of the fridge before you get home. It's your dinner and you forget it you will be CRUSHED.

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

ok thx

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

Isn't it annoying when people do that?

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

Remind me never to do that again.

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

j/k

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

ha

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

I have to get up at 4:30 am for the airport tomorrow, and I'll probably be up until that time Saturday morning. PARTY.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.adaholic.com/fullaccess/315_I1.jpg

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.de-gaverhond.be/BeerDog.jpg

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

That second one is begging for a photoshopping.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

That second one is why we always put the lid down on the toilet. There's not much more upsetting than seeing your fluffy clean cat pawing at the toilet paper floating in the bowl.

*shudder*

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

I just flush.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

I float flowers in ours.

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

If it's yellow, etc.

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

you finish those tests yet jenny?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

I am dead-set against letting it mellow. It's urine, you filthy hippie. Flush it.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

Then again, I wash my hair with SLRs or whatever, and I do not wash my face with grease, so I could be wayyyyy off base here.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

Is SLR like PEE?

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

No, Kenan washes himself with cameras.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

SLR (SOLECTRON CP)

3.51 +0.01 (0.37%) May 3 3:05pm ET
Open: 3.51
High: 3.56
Low: 3.47
Volume: 5,763,715
Avg Vol: 11,902,000
Mkt Cap: 3.19B

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone could use more volume in their hair.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, it's sodium lauryl sulfate -- SLS. They were talking about it on the "Should you wash your hair" thread, because most shampoo on the face of the earth contains SLS, even though it is -- get this -- A MILD IRRITANT TO SOME TYPES OF SKIN. OH NOES LET'S GO HIPPIE BATSHIT CRAZY AND NEVER WASH AGAIN.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

A little patchouli under the pits is all you need.

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

Ten deep breaths, Kenan. This is not worth your ire.

― Laurel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

See if you can guess which person in this picture is me.

http://z.about.com/d/animatedtv/1/0/N/T/sp902_Die_Hippy_Die.jpg

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

But I don't see Big Gay Al anywhere...?

― jaymc, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

o snap

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

ROFL

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

No, it's not worth my ire, no. It's just that phenomenon that I believe Laurel touched on recently, where your new consumer fetish becomes seeking out and purchasing "safer" or more "natural" things, not because you're really arsed either way about, but because you, like so so many other people, derive part of your identity from the things you buy. And your identity in this case is "self-righteous."

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

"not because you're really arsed"

When did you turn Brit?

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

derive part of your identity from the things you buy

that would make me a bottle of pinot noir and a six pack of stella as that's all i've purchased in the last 3 days.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

I do like my new twisty fluorescent light bulbs, it should be noted.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

Dude, you missed the part where I was comparing notes with Jaq on the cooking thread that STARTED this discussion, and where we both list oatmeal, honey, and baking soda for cleaning & exfoliating various things. In my case it's because all those things are dirt fucking cheap and in both Jaq's and my cases, because we have ridiculously sensitive skin that breaks out from various mystery ingredients (which is why I don't use soap anymore, itchy rashes and whiteheads not being my preferred coloration).

― Laurel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

Ok.

Just as long as you flush.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

And your identity in this case is "self-righteous."

I was sort of with you up until this point. I don't think that people who buy natural/organic products always do so out of self-righteousness, even if their motivation has more to do with identity construction and affirmation than anything else. If I buy Tom's of Maine deodorant (which I don't, but just as an example), then maybe I just like thinking of myself as someone who avoids corporate deodorant, but it doesn't follow that I preach the evils of Right Guard to my peers, nor that I even care what they use themselves.

― jaymc, Thursday, 3 May 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

consumer guilt

― Jeff, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

The only really bad thing about corporate deodorant is that is has that aluminum shit that wrecks shirts. Unfortunately, this is the thing that acutally makes it work for its intended purpose, unlike hippie stuff.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

Man, bad luck for bands everywhere. Apparently Starl1ght M1nts had a bunch of gear stolen out of their van last night in Minneapolis, and so they're going to have to borrow some of our stuff for the show tonight.

― jaymc, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

but it doesn't follow that I preach the evils of Right Guard to my peers, nor that I even care what they use themselves

ok this is true.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

Really, it is time for a new thread. I've been waiting for a full minute for the 3599 hidden messages to load, and I think it's never going to happen. Now a minute and a half.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

that aluminum shit that wrecks the mind! Alzheimer's! Go gel!

Jesse, you must load the whole thing if you missed my dramatic adaptation of your dream.

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, I read that. I am afraid that I didn't tell you any of the part that actually would have made a good piece of drama, that being the way the two institutionalized lovers communicated despite being under supposedly constant surveilance, the lead watcher being Yul Brenner looking like Pharaoh.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

Uh pretty sure gel has it too. Aluminum salts are what make those things do what they do so well.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

Oh shucks.

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

I have met peoople who have told me that deoderant and antiperspirant is unnecessary unless you plan to do some sweating because normal everyday activity does not cause them to sweat enough to warrant its use. To that one person in particular--YES, IT REALLY, REALLY, REALLY DOES!

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

I wish I had written that as a Page Six Blind Item.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

I think this sounds like a really good idea.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

because normal everyday activity does not cause them to sweat enough to warrant its use

You ever notice how it's always STINKY people that say shit like this?

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, I have.

Ikea, seriously, why would you give dimensions ONLY in centimeters?

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

2.54 cm = 1 in.

Get convertin'.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

I'm American, do you really think that's gonna happen?

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

math is hard

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

I mean America makes up like 99% of the world's population, so we should get to see things listed in inches.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

Correction, since Sept. 11, we make up 110% of the world's population.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

You should borrow Jeff's high powered calculator.

Also, I thought you were Mexican a couple of days ago...? ;)

― La Lechera, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

I am still writing those evaluations. Will this ever end?

No.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

Americans are humans. Everyone in the world is human. Therefore, all the world is America.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

Well, it's depend.

― La Lechera, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

whoa faulty syllogisms! I'd forgotten about those!

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

From a single Ikea product Description

[Removed Illegal Image]

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

From a single Ikea product Description

Product dimensions
Width: 96 cm
Depth: 62 cm
Height: 149 cm
Max. load: 50 kg

Holds an up to 19" monitor.
Can be used with SUMMERA pull-out keyboard shelf to clear the work surface.
The table top can be mounted at optional height, from 25 5/8 to 38 5/8".

(From EVERY single Ikea product description: This product requires assembly)

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

This tabletop can be mounted from 25 5/8" to 96 centimeters.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

width: 37.8 in
depth: 24.4 in
height: 58.7 in
max load: ~22.7 lbs

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

Is that a desk? Which one?

― Jeff, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

i'll show you a max load

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

The conversion from kg to lb is not exact.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

Is that a desk? Which one?

I don't know. Just a random desk.

Actually, this one http://www.ikea.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?topcategoryId=15600&catalogId=10103&storeId=3&productId=58581&langId=-15&categoryId=16131&chosenPartNumber=30089086

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

Another bad thing about coroporate deoderant is that it wants to ... Wait... According to this random article I just pulled up, aluminum zirconium does not lead to altzheimers...

xposties - Oh no, John! I'm glad they can still do the show.

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

A friend of mine insists that the aluminum shit in deoderant is cancer-causing and now I feel guilty every time I apply my corporate deoderant.

xpost!

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

Jordan, don't forget your pizza.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks dude.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

I think I can get in a good, long life before I die of deodorant poisoning.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I have a friend who has caused me to be frightened by corporate deoderant. She's neither crazy nor self-righteous. I still use it, though.

― sisut, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

rj reynolds and the miller brewing company are going to get me before my old spice does.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

besides, cigarettes prevent alzheimers.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

IN YOUR FACE OLD PEOPLE'S DISEASE!!!

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

old spice?

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

if you're using old spice, i think you may already have old people's disease.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

oh noes now you got me whistling the old spice song.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

i change it up every couple of months, because i swear my body develops a resistance to deodorant. before my recent old spice swing it was degree, before that, speed stick.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

i honestly have no idea what brand of deodorant is in my medicine cabinet. It's... blue.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

Mine is by Dove

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

i currently have 3 sticks of old spice. one is my regular everyday one. one i bought when i was in nyc in november and realized i didn't pack my deodorant. one is one that i bought at work when i realized i had neglected to apply any before going to work. i was, uh, fragrant.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

I love the <a href="http://lifehacker.com/software/workspaces/hack-attack-the-cordless-workspace-sort-of-179911.php">Jerker</a> desk. Wouldn't really work in my environment, but it's so... addontastic.

― Jeff, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

Jeff, or Jenny--

That charging station you guys are doing--is it just going to hold all of your things you would normally charge in one spot, all attached to a power strip, or is there more to it than that?

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

I'm a Mitchum man.

― jaymc, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

How do you know? Have you taken the quiz?

http://www.mitchumman.com/

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

guess what song is in my head?

hint: it's not a song, it's a jingle.

answer: &#9834;&#9835;TRUST THE GORTON'S FISHERMAN....&#9834;&#9835;

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

it actually goes like that! "&#9834;&#9835;/trust the gorton's fisherman/&#9834;&#9835;

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

Nick just got here. His guitar would cost almost as much to clean up as it cost him to buy it originally. :-(

My guitar and bass are gettin' fixed up. It will be mucho dineros, but less than buying replacements. Cry.

― KitCat, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

Mine is by Dove

All girls have that deoderant.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

haha it's true.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

all REAL women, anyway

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

so did jenny ever finish her test or her pad thai or whatever it was she was working on?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.jeffpidgeon.com/uploaded_images/real%20women-789598.jpg

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

and oh yeah, is the LOW for tuesday really supposed to be 71 degrees? highs in the high 80s and humid? spring was what 12 days long this year?

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

:( I don't use Dove deodorant. unreal woman here.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

POD PERSON

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

Speed Stick man for years and years. The forest-y one.

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

Right Guard Sport - Powder Dry

― Jeff, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

man those dove ads. I totally forgot. "Don't feel bad about your bodies! As long as you have luscious hips, tight tummies, and big boobs!"

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

I have some Tom's of Maine shit, actually! No Dove here. Before the Tom's is was Almay gel for years and years, anyway.

― Laurel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

I dig those Dove ads! I should buy their soap or something, in support.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

tom's only works for about 4 hours for me. NOT COOL TOM.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

i am aromariffic, apparently.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

I think we only talked about this a couple days ago, but I am also how-you-say a fan of the Dove ads.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

No, still working on it. No TT for me tonight, sorry Charlies. Plus we're going to pick up that chest.

I use hippy dippy deodorant (Tom's, Lush, one of those rocks) in the winter/cool months but switch to something that causes cancer but prevents smell if I go out in public in the summer months because otherwise LOOK OUT CRITICAL DEODORANT FAILURE. I don't like Dove deodorant, though. I think I bought Arm and Hammer because for some reason, the Walgreens on Broadway and Belmont locks up most of their deodorant and I didn't feel like standing there waiting for a clerk so I could personally request the antiperspirant of my choice. Also I like unscented stuff and that was the only one they had, except for Mitchum, and I won't buy that because those Mitchum ads make me furious.

That is more about my deodorant buying habits than I have ever written in one place in my life.

Jesse - that's how I'm envisioning it, and no I can't see your Flickr pics.

Okay back to it.

― Jenny, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

xpost oh, i likee the ladiez, but the inherent wtf hypocrisy is so strange.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

Oh stop it, Kenan, ILX is pretty much the only place where I feel like hips get any love at all, and those ads aren't as disingenuous as all that (altho still advertising, granted!). Certainly my guy friends and people I know aren't going all "god that girl is so hot -- the one with the giant thighs, right over there". They're hitting on, and telling me about, hot Williamsburg things in stove-pipe jeans and miniskirts w/ knee socks. So pretty much all the women in that ad are bigger than the ones I feel are touted in my life as "attractive".

― Laurel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

I don't understand the hypocrisy? no one's in denial about what advertising is for, still, those are the only women in advertising I've seen whose bodies aren't along a size-2 standard who are held up as a attractive.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

I won't buy that because those Mitchum ads make me furious

Yeah, if you actually take the Mitchum quiz there, the more "manly" your answers are, the more clothes the spokesmodel removes. It's worse than Axe.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

xpost with Laurel

― horseshoe, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

oh good gravy, email in:

For anyone that wants to see me on the runway...

I'm modeling in a hair & fashion show this Saturday, May 5th at midnight at redacted in Wicker Park (formerly redacted) XXXX W North Ave. It should be fun(ny). Here's a link: http://www.redacted.com/

I have no idea what to expect. I'm getting my hair cut this afternoon. See you there...


i will be at my best friends party for their wedding anniversary. i'm thinking about sneeking out for a few minutes around midnight.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

I don't use Dove either. Secret. How many of our consumer decisions are dictated by what we used growing up. Secret and Crest, I don't think I've ever bought a different brand for either of those things.

― sisut, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

incidentally, the above is from the girl who was with me in my second alligator-dream.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

Certainly my guy friends and people I know aren't going all "god that girl is so hot -- the one with the giant thighs, right over there".

fucking hipsters

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

I KNOW, RIGHT?

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

I know, I shd probably hang out with more people my own age? But they're starting to have marriages and babies and want to stay in and be sober on weeknights. ;_;

― Laurel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

ok, have i linked this before? The carl's jr. ads are phenomenally disgusting.

http://www.carlsjr.com/

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

not least of all because the food itself looks disgusting.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

ANYWAY BABIES MAKE U FAT, AMIRITE?!

― Laurel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

I'M TALKING TO YOU, MR PERSONAL AD "TALL AND SKINNY A PLUS"

― Laurel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

i think it's a medical problem if they don't.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

Certainly my guy friends and people I know aren't going all "god that girl is so hot -- the one with the giant thighs, right over there".

fucking hipsters

uhm, while not using the exact phrase "giant thighs", this is actually quite a common expression in my circles.

budget rock enthusiasts have hard-ons for authenticity in music and hips on women, apparently.

i'm out of here, love you guys.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

No Laurel, just hang out with my bandmates.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

I choose to blame NYC, Laurel.

― horseshoe, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, Kevin, I noticed that. I could dig it, I think.

― Laurel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

If time spent checking out curvaceous women was record sales, we'd be triple plat.

(I'm guess C4n4st4 and FFs do not operate this way???)

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know anything about Mitchum ads, apart from ones that say if you do something manly, you're a Mitchum man, but if you do something a little less manly, or intelligently manly, you're a sensitive Mitchum man. Whatever. The deodorant works better than the hippie shit I had before.

― jaymc, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

There was one on the train not too long ago that went something like: "If you give up your seat for a pregnant woman, you're a gentleman. If you're careful about who you think is pregnant, you're a Mitchum man". Basic sentiment: no fat chicks.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

fat chicks need the exercise of standing

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

John reminds me that, a propos of Mitchum and also negative labels last week, a long time ago Esquire had Lyle Lovett on its cover and had a long article about the "post-sensitive man" -- which is to say, two generations after John Wayne and one generation after Alan Alda. Like Lyle Lovett. Wasn't a bad article.

I like happy big chicks and happy little chicks.

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

Oh man hahaha. The thing is that a friend of mine was OFFERED A SEAT on the train and she was not only NOT pregnant but also kind of slim? But had a childhood gymnast's habit of throwing her ribs forward so it gave her a belly if you couldn't see the arch in her back.

― Laurel, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

Eazy's next album: No Sad Chicks

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

xp: Well some dudes do offer them out of gallantry/chivalry/wanting to hit on them after they sit down and are cornered.

― dan m, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

You saddist.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

I think I've dated gals within a...maybe 130 lb. spectrum?

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 22:00 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, me too, probably. Sounds about right.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

That said, I don't think I've ever known the weight of anyone I've dated. I've never asked, and they didn't say.

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

Exactly.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

Is that because you're a gentlemitchumman?

xpost

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

I'm bad at equating weight in lbs to how someone looks.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

I'm a fan of women in general.

― Jeff, Thursday, 3 May 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

Yes.

― Jordan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

I'm a high night flyer and a rainbow rider, a straight-shooting son of a gun.

― Eazy, Thursday, 3 May 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)

I have some beefs with the Dove ads that I will try to articulate when my brain isn't all dead from alternative dispute resolution exam. It's not enough to not buy their products, just a general critique. Also, Dove comes from the same people who bring us Axe and those piece of shit advertisements so... yeah. My big thighs and I have a hard time buying into that particular brand image as a result.

Also, done with that take home. If all goes well, I'll finish my other one tomorrow, and then just have to outline and study for Prof. Hummingbird's final.

― Jenny, Friday, 4 May 2007 00:13 (eighteen years ago)

no one's in denial about what advertising is for, still, those are the only women in advertising I've seen whose bodies aren't along a size-2 standard who are held up as a attractive

Perhaps, and perhaps Roeper's commebnts on the ads bear this point out. Still, I see no reason not to be as cynical of advertising as it is of you. The Dove Self Esteem Program? Oh please give me a break.

Also, and I'm not a women's studies major or anything, but the slogan "Real Women have real bodies with real curves" has a kind of divide-and-conquer taste to it, doesn't it? What about spindly women? What about the outright pear-shaped? They are real. They exist. I have seen them. Seems to me that women need to stick together in this deal.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 00:25 (eighteen years ago)

I get an image of Weird Al in the video for "Fat." "YOU AIN'T FAT! YOU AIN'T NOTHIN'!"

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 00:27 (eighteen years ago)

All that said, as advertising, it's kind of genius.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 00:29 (eighteen years ago)

The interesting thing here is the risky bet Dove is making. Beauty-product marketing has almost always been aspirational: I wish I could look like her … perhaps if I buy this lip gloss, I will! But Dove takes a wildly different approach: That chick in the ad sort of looks like me, and yet she seems really happy and confident … perhaps if I buy this Dove Firming Cream, I'll stop hating myself!

In part, Dove's strategy is not unlike the Body Shop's old eco- and animal-friendly stance: Buy our products because you like them, but also because you're making a righteous statement. To buy Dove is to cast a vote for more "real curves" in advertising.

But there's a dirty little secret here. Because, in the end, you simply can't sell a beauty product without somehow playing on women's insecurities. If women thought they looked perfect—just the way they are—why would they buy anything?

Dove ad. Click image to expand.These Dove ads say it's cool to be round and hefty … so long as your skin is taut and firm and perfect. (And, in case you're curious, Dove says these photos were not retouched at all.) But what's that, you say? You love your real curves, but you've got a little cellulite? Girl, run out and buy our hocus-pocus cream right now! Those cottage cheese thighs are vile! Dear God, cover them up!

http://www.slate.com/id/2123659/

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 00:32 (eighteen years ago)

Okay I know this is kind of wack and I know Sarah and others who had the experience of being the tallest kid around and possibly flat-chested when other girls weren't, and possibly gawky, and possibly not being able to find jeans long enough at age 15, and all those things, will probably pitch their two cents in, AND THEY SHOULD, but from my point of view the "spindly", let's say ranging from "pretty slender" to "worrisomely thin", and especially the TALL, women are the middle-class white males of the other half of the population. They get long legs. They get prominent, sculpted collarbones and long fingers that can wear any ring. They get the stylish clothes and the best new trends (to the extent that off-the-rack clothing fits ANYONE, and I'm not fooling myself that even thin people are all shaped the same!) because more of the styles in circulation at any given time are tested/modeled on, and designed for, slender figures. They get the adjectives "willowy" and "coltish" and "ethereal" and "elegant" -- the short-yet-slender can be elegant with a lot of attention to detail, but believe me, a heavy-set woman is never described as elegant; maybe "handsome" or "welcoming" or "comforting" or "natural" but these are not in the same league as "elegant".

Ugh, I'm sorry, I need to stop! We ARE all in this stupid life together, and I like ALL KINDS of women myself, but I feel excluded by descriptions/expectations in life and fiction and that's kind of how it plays out in my thinking. FYI. Welcome to my head.

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:01 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, it's not just your head. If it was, this wouldn't be such a problem. And I thought of that, actually, that the "spindly" (though what was thinking of was more along the lines of "worrisomely thin") get all the breaks, and a little finger-pointing in their direction doesn't really hurt them. And it doesn't. But the issue is self-esteem, not equality per se. Does any of this Dove crap really make you feel better about yourself? The problem is systemic (and not just because of men -- women promote the current skinny model aesthetic just as ferociously, by, say, running fashion magazines -- but that's another thread). I feel like Dove is cynically exploiting what it hopes (hoped?) will be a trend, a bit of backlash against the super skinny.

Notice, too, that the women in these ads are not large by any real-life standard that I know of, they are all in great physical condition, they are *glowing*, and all significantly above the curve for what is considered pretty.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:13 (eighteen years ago)

maybe "handsome" or "welcoming" or "comforting" or "natural" but these are not in the same league as "elegant".

They are outside of ad copy!

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:22 (eighteen years ago)

It IS still an ad, that's not even being questioned -- in fact L and I were happy to point it out! But even if it only tackles ONE issue, that is to say, body type, and doesn't challenge facial regularity or skin texture or fitness level or whatever, it's still taking one big step toward an "average" body, a step that I'm not sure any other err, "appearance" advertiser other than those for specialty BBW-type products has taken. I mean, I think I have every issue of Mode magazine that was ever released, even though I wasn't even close to their target size at the time (which might have been 16-18-20+?), because it was such a pleasure -- no, wait, a RELIEF -- to see non-skinny women being treated as beauties, dressed in couture & luxury brands, portrayed as sexually desirable -- and they were all plus-sized MODELS, they were no "real people" with cellulite either! But surprise surprise, the mag folded in 2001 after I think less than two years of publication.

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:26 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, I mean, beauty products are beauty products; I would never claim they're feminist, but I like seeing images of different women on billboards/in magazines. that's all I'm claiming for the Dove ads, that they do that, they make some different-looking women visible. of course claiming any one body type is the really feminine one is destructive, though.

Laurel, I have had all of those thoughts.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:30 (eighteen years ago)

Man, society has really messed women up.

Obviously this is a problem I do not have in my own head and never will. I feel a little doughy at times, but that does not make me feel like a lesser human being.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:31 (eighteen years ago)

I am really interested in hearing your beefs with the ads when you get a chance, though, Jenny!

xpost, uh, thanks, Kenan. wtf?

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:31 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I didn't mean it like that. But obviously women are valued on a different scale then men, and I can't get inside of that headspace.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:36 (eighteen years ago)

oh, okay. fair enough.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:37 (eighteen years ago)

Which is why I'm trying to hammer on the "WTF it's advertising, it does not ever have your best interests in mind" angle. But when I think about it, advertising, especially for women's beauty products, can affect you profoundly.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:38 (eighteen years ago)

It's just so much closer to home. If I don't own a Volkswagen, fine, I'll cope. But if I'm being told I am not sexually desirable... well, that would be wayyy different.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:39 (eighteen years ago)

Or shit, not just that, not valued as much IN GENERAL because I'm not sexually desirable. A twofer!

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:40 (eighteen years ago)

you're all okay in my book

― river wolf, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:44 (eighteen years ago)

The people who said in that other thread that a woman's eventual peace of mind is her own responsibility were damn right, and I try to keep sources that will make that job harder out of my orbit -- ie fashion magazines, even though I like fashion; trying on clothing at chic places where nothing fits; going to clubs or other places where skinny glamour is the norm; certain tv and movies; things like that. But you still have to live in the world, y'know?

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:44 (eighteen years ago)

I guess, when I think of the Dove ads, my reaction isn't simply to them as ads. I'm not just thinking of advertising, but the related world of entertainment, and how certain women aren't visible in visual pop culture, or if they are, they're treated as somehow less-than. The first time I encountered the Dove ad, it was a billboard and it actually made me double-take, just because you never see women with bodies like that treated like they're sexy in movies/on TV/especially not in magazines. and there's something so weirdly false about it, that, like Laurel said, it's a relief when one of the distorting mirrors actually shows you an image that you recognize, that's been suppressed.

and then, when whoever it was in the Sun-Times wrote that "why do I have to see these hideous women?" editorial, I think that just firmed up my appreciation for the ads, because, you know, if it's gotten so that people think bodies like that are hideous, well, I don't even know what.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:44 (eighteen years ago)

whoever it was in the Sun-Times wrote that "why do I have to see these hideous women?" editorial,


okay wtf???

― river wolf, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:46 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know, "a woman's eventual peace of mind is her own responsibility" is true but then it's not. on some level this stuff is unavoidable and real and it affects you even before you know it has, i.e. really young girls.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:46 (eighteen years ago)

xpost yeah, river wolf, now I'm going to find the damn thing so I can enjoy my rage again.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:46 (eighteen years ago)

it's richard roeper. He's a top-ten all-time asshat.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:48 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't even realize Roeper had had that reaction, too! the dude I was thinking of was Guerrero, he of the "the only time I want to see a thigh that big is in a bucket with bread crumbs on it" quote!

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:50 (eighteen years ago)

these quotes were in.....a newspaper? and, like, a dude got paid to write them??

― river wolf, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:51 (eighteen years ago)

oh wow, that's even worse. Yeah Roeper wrote a column about how he just doesn't want to see that. I did a double-take myself on that one.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:52 (eighteen years ago)

there's something so bizarre about that reaction, past my irritation at it. like there are women who look like that walking on the streets 94/7...do you only object to it when it's in a magazine? wtf is that about?

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:52 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, to be fair, Guerrero's article was in the Sun-Times, which is a rag.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:52 (eighteen years ago)

"the only time I want to see a thigh that big is in a bucket with bread crumbs on it"

omg that's horrifying, dehumanizing (literally), and just nonsensical, especially since (as I said) the women in those ads are beautiful!

to be fair, Guerrero's article was in the Sun-Times

So was Roeper's!

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:54 (eighteen years ago)

They have their clothes on the rest of the time, I guess? And I think there's a feeling that averageness is okay as long as you have the grace to be slightly ashamed of it, you know, because you can't help not being more like the truly desirable people. But when you allow your image to be placed on a billboard, for the public to see and, by the aspirational and fucked-up language of advertising, presented as some kind of ideal, it's offensive.

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:55 (eighteen years ago)

well, it's also like, dude hasn't seen a great variety of thighs, then, because they get a lot bigger than that! but that's kind of off the topic.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:55 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, you're totally right, Laurel. which is again why I can't help digging those ads.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:56 (eighteen years ago)

there's something in here about how this ad campaign is an affront to men ruling the world as they see fit, but maybe i'll skip it for now.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:57 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.squeezeoc.com/blog/fashionfix/upload/2006/12/dovegirls.jpg

― river wolf, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:57 (eighteen years ago)

^^^^ and how is this remotely "hideous?"

― river wolf, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:58 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder -- and maybe this is an idle thought -- I wonder if these men would have reacted the same way if the women on the billboards were not perfectly normal-looking and quite pretty, but allowed to have stretch marks and lopsidedness and any of the other abberations that often come with having a human body. Would the criticism have been louder or nil?

and how is this remotely "hideous?"

no shit bro, i'm nearly thinking marraige.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:00 (eighteen years ago)

um... not to objectify or anything. ;)

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:01 (eighteen years ago)

okay, I think I originally found out about the "controversy" from [url=http://www.poundy.com/2005_07_01_blogarchives.html#112191780625206238this blog[/url]. awesome:

"Thank you, Sun-Times and Channel 2 fellas, for exposing those Dove billboards for the anti-erection propaganda that they are. That's right: in their menacing white panties, the Dove women are chunky size-ten threats to the fantasies that Chicago newsmen clearly feel entitled to enjoy at all times, or at least while commuting or running errands, or rushing out to cover a breaking story about a fire or a murder or whatever, or otherwise cavorting through the vast, roofless Playboy mansion that is our entire goddamn city. Because apparently it's bad enough that actual women are allowed to walk around Michigan Avenue or Navy Pier with their real live fleshy-flesh sticking out from under shorts and halter tops as if it were hot out or something, as if Richard Roeper's boner wasn't totally at stake. (Does he think it's like his thumb and that he gets to vote with it?)

Plus I love it when these editorials say stuff like "ads should be about the beautiful people" (see the second segment), and "if I want to see plump gals baring too much skin, I'll go to Taste of Chicago," as if it were all just a matter of venue--because, what, it's of great masturbatory importance to see chubby chicks in one place and not another? Like are there secret freaky Old Testament-style Jerk-Off Laws that prohibit getting off on "real women" when they're served up on the same platter used for taut model fantasy fucktoys? I know these guys are talking out of their asses, but there's a whiff of righteous outrage coming out of there, too, and it's creepy."

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:08 (eighteen years ago)

(Does he think it's like his thumb and that he gets to vote with it?)

hahaha classic

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:16 (eighteen years ago)

ManSociety, societyman has really messed women up.

― Jeff, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:19 (eighteen years ago)

certain women aren't visible in visual pop culture

I would think that this is the issue larger than just desirability. I read a great quote (that I can't find online) in The Believer last night from John Updike's (trashed) last novel, about how the reality of America is not in its TV shows but in its commercials, all the medical problems and all...anyway, it relates to this, and maybe I'll find it.

― Eazy, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:21 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, here it is, maybe it relates directly, maybe it doesn't:

"It’s slop…. But the commercials, they are fantastic. They’re like Fabergé eggs. When somebody in this country wants to sell you something, they really buckle down. They get intense. You watch a commercial twenty times, you see how every second has been weighed out in gold. They’re full of what physicists call information. Would you know, for example, that Americans were as sick as they are, full of indigestion and impotence and baldness, always wetting their pants and having sore assholes, if you didn’t watch commercials?"

― Eazy, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:24 (eighteen years ago)

My worry is that the ads ARE taken as feminist, at least to a degree. If the problem is that people too highly value an idealized female body, making that body slightly larger but still idealized is not progress.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:26 (eighteen years ago)

that seems true, although, in commercials for beauty products you can usually read what Amerian women are insecure about, not what they look like. the Dove ad is still probably aspirational, but it manages to strike a balance between aspirational and representative, which is nice.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:26 (eighteen years ago)

that was an xpost to Eric

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:27 (eighteen years ago)

does anyone seriously expect feminism from a large corporation that hawks beauty products?

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:28 (eighteen years ago)

and there's no danger that the bodies in the Dove ads are somehow going to displace the more standard beautiful bodies as idealized.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:28 (eighteen years ago)

I clearly can't shut up about this, but just to reiterate, my feeling about the Dove ads is that I'm glad they exist, because they exist in lieu of just another set of the same old images and they constitute, in a very limited way, a stab at diversity.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:32 (eighteen years ago)

xpost i know, that's why i think it's an empty and cynical gesture, not to be praised.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:33 (eighteen years ago)

It IS sad that women are so desperate for some kind of public affirmation, though -- the success and popularity of those ads shows that we're like, "just throw us a crumb, anything, we'll take it to our hearts even if we have to deconstruct and unpack it according to feminist theory or cultural criticism to protect ourselves from your agenda; we'll take anything." But the crumb is still nourishing, more nourishing than nothing at all.

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

i guess what i mean is, DOWN WITH ADVERTISING! I can always find another job. :)

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:34 (eighteen years ago)

women are so desperate for some kind of public affirmation, though

honestly, that's not how I read my reaction to those ads, or yours. it's just that relief you were talking about when you looked at the images in Mode, that a piece of the real world filtered into the crazy machine that is advertising. I don't think that blame can be placed solely on women for being desperate.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:37 (eighteen years ago)

blame is absolutely not on the women.

has anyone seen the movie 'holy smoke'? it was sucky and forgettable, except that kate winslet was curvy, in a relatable kind of way, and she has a nude scene. when i saw it i was amazed and really happy to see someone attractive and sexy and size 10ish--it was probably 10 years ago, but it made a big impression.

― JuliaA, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:41 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, no way! There's plenty of blame to spread around, I just want to take responsibility for MY OWN headspace so I'm maybe emphasizing the facets that I can control and adjust. And men really aren't exempt from lots of similar pressures, they just happen to mostly NOT be about men's physical appearances (not that men aren't subject to fitness standards, fear of balding, any insecurity companies can play on, but it's pitched in a different key and not as all-encompassing in your HUMAN VALUE, as Kenan said).

Oh fucking-A, Julia, not only does she have a nude scene but she urinates on herself, unashamedly, in front of her romantic interest/deprogrammer/power figure, and she's STILL HOT doing it and doesn't relinquish any human power by doing so.

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:46 (eighteen years ago)

guys i miss ladies

xp ok waht

― river wolf, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:47 (eighteen years ago)

heh. Guys run to thier Netflix queue.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:47 (eighteen years ago)

it's a fucked up movie, absolutely. and her character was not-so-feminist, to put it lightly.

but it made a big impression on me that she was attractive, and not movie-star-shaped.

― JuliaA, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:49 (eighteen years ago)

I only remember the bare bones but I think the whole movie plays on control issues, a person's right to their own mental space & beliefs, and what the boundaries of "self" are when someone powerful is determined to take everything over, even if for your own perceived good.

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:50 (eighteen years ago)

you know, wtf happened to Jane Campion? although I think we can all agree that Kate Winslet is the hotness, in whatever context.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:50 (eighteen years ago)

rw didn't you have a troupe of biker hotties staying at your place recently?

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:51 (eighteen years ago)

biker? Like, bicycle?

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:52 (eighteen years ago)

Bicycle races are coming your way
So forget all your duties oh yeah
Fat bottomed girls they'll be riding today
So look out for those beauties oh yeah

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:53 (eighteen years ago)

(sorry, I was listening to Queen earlier today.)

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:53 (eighteen years ago)

Interesting that I'm guessing the first time a guy gets lucky in his teens that it's not with someone "movie-star shaped" and it's fine and so we don't necessarily have those prejudices. I'm sure some of my bros do, but not the ones I know well.

― Eazy, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:55 (eighteen years ago)

It wasn't until after I was out of high school that I found out how many girls I knew thought of themselves as grotesque in one way or another, when that's not how the fellas saw them.

― Eazy, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:57 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, there's obviously a difference between public discourse on what's attractive and what individuals find attractive in their lives. but it's pretty much impossible for that public discourse to have no effect.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:58 (eighteen years ago)

Of course, plus in a normal life you don't even know what individuals think of you, whereas the public discourse is everywhere. On the whole I think I'm profoundly thankful that I don't know what imaginary activities I've been involved in in the minds of others, or what unspoken thoughts are conjured up, but the flip side is that you will only ever be affirmed in an intimate way by a statistically negligible number of people. The fact that personal association with those people gives their views way more weight than other kinds of input is probably the only hope for getting some balance.

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:03 (eighteen years ago)

Interesting that I'm guessing the first time a guy gets lucky in his teens that it's not with someone "movie-star shaped" and it's fine and so we don't necessarily have those prejudices

Indeed! Also kind of interesting, and I've noticed this before, that most of a guy's sexual proclivities (at least as he imagines them -- we can be trained) are based on past experiences. My first girlfriend was an Indian girl who was shaped roughly like the monolith from 2001 -- and damnit if I don't still have a little thing for Indian girls who are shaped like the monolith from 2001.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:04 (eighteen years ago)

Men are visual, it can be an obstacle.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:04 (eighteen years ago)

She was rectangular?!

― Jordan, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:05 (eighteen years ago)

Yes.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:06 (eighteen years ago)

1:4:9

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:06 (eighteen years ago)

me:i first wondered if i were fat when i was five years old

me:i was a normal skinny kid! i didn't watch tv! but there's something really pervasive about female body image in our society.

k:little boys do not do this

me:I KNOW

k: i always thought it was a product of puberty, at the very earliest

me:i remember it vividly--i was sitting on the bathtub rim, adn i noticed the way my thighs spread out
it's not my earliest memory, but within a year or so of it
i didn't know that was normal, and so blamed my inherent unattractiveness
that's seriously fucked up
it took me a long time to realize that i really was okay looking. like, til my early 20s

k: if you're a girl and you are never told you are pretty, you assume that you are ugly.

me: nobody ever told me i was pretty, growing up. of course my family didn't think that pretty mattered, but they didn't drive that home. just that i was smart

k:you SHOULD post something about that.

― JuliaA, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:32 (eighteen years ago)

it sort of blows my mind, wondering how i got to think that way even though i didn't watch tv (other than cartoons and PBS), and we didn't have magazines around really--not the sort that would influence concepts of attractiveness.

― JuliaA, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:39 (eighteen years ago)

I am tempted to resort to some kind of half-assed evolutionary psychology, but I won't, because it's a dead end in discussions like this.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:40 (eighteen years ago)

evolutionary psychology bah. I think it's ridiculous.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:41 (eighteen years ago)

xpost I.e. -- discussions of gender and sexuality in humans.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:41 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I don't think it's riduculous, but I don't think it's anywhere near comprehensice enough to explain something like human sexual behavior. I think it explains thinks like our propensity toward fatty foods quite well -- ancestral environment, scarcity, very neatly done. But the evolutionary psychology I have seen reduces sex to a business deal, instead of the incredibly complex social interaction that it obviously is, and possibly has always been.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:44 (eighteen years ago)

yes, that's what I meant. all the ev. psych. explanations I've seen attached to gender read like projections of cultural norms onto an imagined evolutionary path. I gather that there are more scientifically buttressed ev. psych approaches to other things, but I never trust them wrt gender.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:46 (eighteen years ago)

k: if you're a girl and you are never told you are pretty, you assume that you are ugly.

This is SO on. Unless someone specifically says otherwise, there's a part of me that assumes that my sexual partners are merely tolerating my appearance because they like me, the person, or because they're getting laid, or whatever. I mean, I know that's not healthy! But it's there.

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:49 (eighteen years ago)

For all the things that Freud got egregiously wrong, I will give him this: there is another self inside us that we do not understand, shaped by forces that come from deep within our childhood (or maybe even our genes), and figuring out what that self desires is a fundamental part of figuring out what YOU desire. And you can't control what you desire until you really understand what it is.

I am getting off topic a little, maybe.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:55 (eighteen years ago)

Sort of along the topic of gender, one of my coworkers the other day was talking about the new book about the expectations of women to work and be social and have families (the anti-Female Brain title) and she said it was all BS and we should just stay at home and raise kids and rely on our husbands to support us. I tried to argue with her that I want a fulfilling career and social life as well as family and she told me it was because I hadn't settled down with the right man yet who could support me. She also told my coworker who accidentally had a baby at 22 that she was a horrible person for going back to work. I tried to gently dissuade a customer I knew very slightly from buying "The Female Brain" the other day but she stared at me and gave me some excuse about how I had been brainwashed into thinking I had to have power by being masculine. This bizarre backlash :(
xpost-I was always surprised that my ex liked the things I saw as flawed about my body, he thought they were signs of uniqueness.

― jocelyn, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:02 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, we're burning the midnight oil here, eh?

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:03 (eighteen years ago)

I do not care to contribute, unless telling you that I'm reading (and enjoying) Portnoy's Complaint is somehow a contribution...

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:04 (eighteen years ago)

god, I hadn't even heard about this female brain book, but my god a version of that book just keeps being published. blech.

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:04 (eighteen years ago)

If it's the one I was thumbing through in the bookstore the other month, it was lollercaustistic.

Culture is the worst thing that ever happened to science.

― Jeff, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:10 (eighteen years ago)

I like Phillip Roth. I am reading the new Michael Chabon book, The Yiddish Policeman's Union, and it's...strange. Not bad, but I think he overuses the alternate history motif until it becomes alien and difficult for me to read as anything but sci-fi. The premise of Israel losing the 1948 war and Jews relocating to Alaska as Roosevelt suggested is interesting, but there is an overload of details by attempting to translate 1930s Jewish life into a modern day setting, as if by losing Israel, culture is frozen in the ghettos of Lodz, the pale of settlement is just the pale of Alaska now, etc.

― jocelyn, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:14 (eighteen years ago)

That may be part of his technique, but I'm not quite buying it. Or I might just be disappointed after Kavalier and Clay. Lethem disappointed so much with his new book as well.

― jocelyn, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:15 (eighteen years ago)

tried to argue with her that I want a fulfilling career and social life as well as family and she told me it was because I hadn't settled down with the right man yet who could support me.

YEAH, that totally ties in. This is exactly what an evolutionary psychologist would argue that your brain is trying to force you to do, But he would then puss out completely and say, "Well I'm not saying it's *right* or anything."

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:18 (eighteen years ago)

Tangential, but three of the 10 Republican pres candidates tonight said that they didn't believe in evolution.

I've loved most of Roth's recent novels, other than the novella The Dying Animal, which I forgot about as soon as I was finished. But The Human Stain is still probably the most satisfying novel I've read this decade.

― Eazy, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:19 (eighteen years ago)

xpost And of course have no social explanations, scientific or otherwise, of why your mind is your own.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:20 (eighteen years ago)

I think I might be done with Chabon for a long time. The Wonder Boys was great, but too much of a good thing was still too much.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:20 (eighteen years ago)

I did not really get much out of The Breast.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:21 (eighteen years ago)

Culture is the worst thing that ever happened to science.

Maybe, but a million miles away from vice versa.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:21 (eighteen years ago)

Which is the only other Phillip Roth I've read.

I think it would be interesting to do a comparitive analysis of the movie Short Bus and Portnoy's Complaint, looking at how each tried/succeeded/fell short of making something arty or literary out of really graphic subject matter.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:23 (eighteen years ago)

Ooops, Rothtrap.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:24 (eighteen years ago)

Tendertrap.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:24 (eighteen years ago)

The Plot Against America is some fine writing. Check it.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:26 (eighteen years ago)

BTW, I was hanging out with my friend Jen who is moving to Logan Square next month, and she said out of the blue, "I went to Hot Doug's on Saturday. DAMN that was a good hot dog." I thought of you guys.

― jocelyn, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:26 (eighteen years ago)

I read that plot book. I don't remember much, but I remember being disappointed in the end.

― Jeff, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:27 (eighteen years ago)

Plus I read it right after Cloud Atlas, which was pretty awesome.

― Jeff, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:27 (eighteen years ago)

uh... you did READ it, right?

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:28 (eighteen years ago)

OH I haven't read Cloud Atlas, but I head great things. I should put that on my fiction list. I am trying to read some fiction.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:28 (eighteen years ago)

I never told you guys this, and it's something you will enjoy or my name isn't whateverwhatever--

On Sat. night a youngish woman and her mother came into the restaurant to celebrate their birthday (they shared a birthday). They got drunk and then a L3o Burnnnetterrr bought them a pricey bottle of bubbly and they got tanked. The younger woman told her server that it was time for them to tab out, and pointed to her mother, saying "otherwise I will start making out with her" which they both thought was high-larious.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:29 (eighteen years ago)

I did read it, but I really don't remember most books I read. Sometimes I forget the beginning by the time I get to the end.

― Jeff, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:30 (eighteen years ago)

xpost omg that's so oogy.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:30 (eighteen years ago)

I want to read Absurdistan next as I loved The Russian Debutante's Handbook.

That's just icky, Jesse.

― jocelyn, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:31 (eighteen years ago)

I've tried reading other Roth novels from the 1970s and 1980s and never got into them at all. But I Married A Communist, The Human Stain, The Plot Against America...all have a similar construction, which has to do with storytelling and creating believable worlds and at the same time completely unpredictible characters (the transformation of the son in TPAM who goes off to fight and comes back to Jersey is so credible and unpredictible at the same time).

― Eazy, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:32 (eighteen years ago)

The server told that story at work and then at the bar later and each time it seemed that the world ground to a halt. A nation turned its back and gagged.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:32 (eighteen years ago)

Last night I had a dream that we all lived in North Carolina and were hanging out with Jon Williams, who spoke with an Irish brogue. He was mad about something pertaining to computers, but I couldn't really figure out what.

Goodnight, Chicago.

― Jenny, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:33 (eighteen years ago)

I have decided that tomorrow afternoon I will be taking apart my old dresser with the circular saw and rebuilding it as under-bed drawers.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:34 (eighteen years ago)

Good night Jenny. Good night forever.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:34 (eighteen years ago)

Difference I noticed tonight btwn Chicago thread and DC thread: ours is text.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:34 (eighteen years ago)

I don't wanna sound all ivory tower or anything, but I do prefer this.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:35 (eighteen years ago)

I'm kind of amazed when parents/kids or even siblings can talk about dirty things with each other, or make jokes like that. I'm not really judgemental about it but just have a hard time relating.

― Eazy, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:40 (eighteen years ago)

I had a dream this morning that my friend (for 13+ years) Kristin and I had to pilot the Millenium Falcon on a suicide mission directly into the moon because it had been taken over by evil slow-talking Teddy Ruxpin, and she had to do all these aeriels in a white catspacesuit. No more barbeque and Jack Daniels for me.

― jocelyn, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:40 (eighteen years ago)

jocelyn that is super-awesome!

― horseshoe, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:51 (eighteen years ago)

Is Lindsay Lohan hot, legal, and ready yet?

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 06:04 (eighteen years ago)

I woke up at 3:43am today. You?

― La Lechera, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:11 (eighteen years ago)

COULD NOT SLEEP. I read for a while and then got up at 5:15 to take the dogs out even though it was too early for them to even want to get up.

― La Lechera, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:12 (eighteen years ago)

I would start talking about body image, but it seems like that topic is all talked out, and I've been talking to myself (with varying degrees of acceptance) about body image since about 1982 or so.

― La Lechera, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:13 (eighteen years ago)

You guys were talking about Cloud Atlas ... David Mitchell has yet to write a bad book. If you like Cloud Atlas, please read his other novels. Ghostwritten, his first book, is similar to Cloud Atlas but (I think) better.

― n/a, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:21 (eighteen years ago)

I need to reread Cloud Atlas though. I have too much shit to read. Why does The Executioner's Song have to be so long, yet good enough to make me want to finish it?

― n/a, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:23 (eighteen years ago)

Depressing FF update:

I took our guitars to Specimen yesterday for cleaning and evaluation. Right off, he said it would cost at least $240 to clean my guitar and fix the crack in the neck, and that's if there was nothing wrong with the electronics or the rest of the structure. My guitar cost $300 when I bought it, so I said fuck it. I'm going to do my best to clean it myself and have it at home for recording and messing around. I left Sarah's SG and bass at Specimen, for which we're going to pay out of the ass.

We were supposed to practice at Ice Factory last night but when we got there it was locked and no one was home. So we went to Tuman's, where we ran into Dan and Kevin. Plus some of the Sharks came down because they spied us from Bridget's new place, which is next door to Tuman's. Then we went and looked at a depressing practice space, really dark and loud and creepy. Not a very productive evening.

― n/a, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:27 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry about your woes, FFs. Just remember that they're just things and it's just money and things will get taken care of one way or another.

BUT: Oooooh, I love The Executioner's Song! In fact, I have been looking for more books like that -- long, involved, true and actually interesting.

― La Lechera, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:31 (eighteen years ago)

I have recommended this book before, but I was going to mention it again since Jenny was disappointed she missed the Mormon PBS show - "No Man Knows My History" by Fawn Brodie. It's a biography of Joseph Smith and it's one of the most fascinating nonfiction books I've ever read.

― n/a, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:43 (eighteen years ago)

The dark/loud/creepy place was the Sacramento and Caroll one? That sounds pretty much right.

― dan m, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:47 (eighteen years ago)

ok -- will add to my wishlist! thankee.

― La Lechera, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:48 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah. The owner dude was really nice, and it seems pretty secure, but the building and neighborhood were a little scary. I don't know, it might be ok.

― n/a, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:49 (eighteen years ago)

Can I do strikethrough in MSWord?

― La Lechera, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

nevermind

― La Lechera, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

but the building and neighborhood were a little scary

the building is fine but the neighborhood is fucking dicey. in the winter it's not so bad but in the summer there are people wandering around at all hours and shit. i can remember catching a ride from dave after a HC show (the trade being a ride for help loading out) and getting there at about 3 a.m. and there was like a party going on with a bunch of 18-19 year old kids in the alley. if they had decided they needed some gear there really wasn't much we would have been able to do about it.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

I don't want the FFs to practice there. I will worry too much.

― Jenny, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sure the building is safe inside but it's still creepy and ominous - really big open industrial-looking spaces with dim lighting.

Anyways, on Sunday we're looking at a place in the southside and a fancier place that will probably be too pricey.

― n/a, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

did you guys go up the stairs? the lightbulb on the second floor landing burns out all the time making it extra creepy.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha. Did the whole Dove ad debate start because I mentioned I use Dove deoderant??

The jeans I have on today are size 10.

I have a wee bit of a problem with those ads. I feel like they make too big a deal about being plus-sized, which makes it all more 'in your face.' I think it would have been a more effective ad campaign if they had more of a variety of sizes represented. I did think it was cool though that the pix of individual women were so huge on the buildings downtown they looked like the 50 foot woman.

I kind of have a problem with any magazine geared only towards plus-sized women. I feel like it idealizes an unhealthy lifestyle, just as much as a magazine filled with anorexics. I'm not saying that anyone above a certain weight is necessarily unhealthy or that it is THEIR FAULT (just like how it is possibly to be naturally superthin and still be healthy), but I feel like these days in our society there is this growing feeling that you should be proud of being fat or that it is cool or feminist. Am I completely crazy?? Ideally, there would be more of a mix of sizes in all magazines, instead of it having to be segregated. Us women should be comfortable with whatever our own personal healthy size might be.

Let's talk about the lead singer for the G0ssip. She is awesome. She is a feminist pierced lesbian who belts out bluesy rock songs. I respect her. But she insists on her weight as being part of her identity. It is one thing to be comfortable with your body shape, but quite another to idealize something that is bad for you.

― KitCat, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

Unrelated, we were just totally spoiled at our last space with those huge windows, exposed brick, carpet, and soundproofed walls. For the same price at those spaces we saw last night, we'd have a space with subflooring, no windows, a 'window' ac unit, and a hole in the wall where the hot air comes in during the winter (which the guy told us we might prefer to fill with a pillow because noise comes in that way - though that would mean no heat...).

― KitCat, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I'm glad I didn't offend anyone too much with my whole D0ve bit.

I'm so glad it's Friday.

― KitCat, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

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― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:19 (eighteen years ago)

to hell with you. screw you AND your machine products, pal.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:19 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah, the thing is that I am a plus size some of the time, and so are a lot of your friends and loved ones, I'm guessing, even if you might not realize it. And you probably don't realize it! because the whole label system is STUPID anyway, and gets applied at a stupidly low level (ie for my height and weight I'm technically "obese", which is RETARDED), and our lives aren't any unhealthier than anyone else's (besides, like, marathon runners) who happens to have different genes than us, so why should we be blocked out of public view as if our bodies are bad and wrong? Please do not believe that, it really hurts me.

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

Interesting. There are two men in the middle of Argyle Street, one with a snow shovel, the other with a push broom. The shovel guy is scraping the dirt from the street and the other guy is sweeping it cleaner.

Actually, there are like 4 guys doing this. That's an odd way to clean the street.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

last august i was waiting for the bus at western and congress and saw a guy chasing and swinging a snow shovel at another guy in the middle of western avenue at about 1:30 a.m.

i remember wondering where he got a snow shovel in august.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder if your new creepy practice space will make your music darker. Maybe you'll write the next Pornography or something.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

I feel like these days in our society there is this growing feeling that you should be proud of being fat or that it is cool or feminist. Am I completely crazy??

I don't think you are, although this particular tack is bound to cause trouble. There is, I think, an element to all this that includes readjusting the normative standards for size not necessarily because models are too skinny, but because America is so bovine.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

Thank you, Kenan, for knowing and using the correct form/spelling of "tack".

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

last august i was waiting for the bus at western and congress and saw a guy chasing and swinging a snow shovel at another guy in the middle of western avenue at about 1:30 a.m.

i remember wondering where he got a snow shovel in august.

-- chicago kevin, Friday, May 4, 2007 9:24 AM (1 minute ago)



^^^That reminds me of this:


Passers-by (Kafka's Short story)
When you go walking by night up a street and a man, visible a long way off--for the street mounts
uphill and there is a full moon--comes running toward you, well, you don't catch hold of him, not
even if he is a feeble and ragged creature, not even if someone chases yelling at his heels, but you
let him run on.
For it is night, and you can't help it if the street goes uphill before you in the moonlight, and besides,
these Twohave maybe started that chase to amuse themselves, or perhaps they are both chasing a
third, perhaps the first is an innocent man and the second wants to murder him and you would
become an accessory, perhaps they don't know anything about each other and are merely running
separately home to bed, perhaps they are night birds, perhaps the first man is armed.
And anyhow, haven't you a right to be tired, haven't you been drinking a lot of wine? You're thankful
that the second man is now long out of sight.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

SRSLY I really appreciate that.

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

america is porcine! we're long pigs motherlover!

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think "plus"-sized women should be blocked out of public view at all! I just think it is a bit dangerous to go too far from being happy with one's healthy weight and being proud of an unhealthy weight. I don't really know how to say what I'm trying to say...

I do know it is possible to be a size 16 simply because that is your body type. And I do have relatives with weight issues...

I guess I'm just talking from my own personal experience. Five years ago I was 40 pounds heavier. I was convinced I was at my natural weight. It made me depressed to read C0smo. But at some point I decided, Fuck it, this is what I weigh so I might as well be proud of it. I made it part of my own punk identity I think.

But then a little later I tried eating healthier and actually exercising and not going to Starbuxxx every day... and I ended up losing all that weight. It was a huge shock to me. I thought I was stuck in "Big Girl" world the rest of my life.

I don't know. I guess I wish someone had come up to me and shaken me earlier and said YOU DOn't HAVE TO BE LIKE THIS! YOU HAVE TO TRY HARDER! And then I wouldn't had to have as many years captured in pix that other people don't even recognize as being me now.

End sob story.

― KitCat, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

I think marathon runners are about as healthy as competitive weight lifters. Running marathons ruins your body. We're not meant to do that!

I definitely feel more spry when I don't have an extra 30 pounds to carry around, but at the same time, I wonder whether it's better to accept it and love myself as I am right now (I am finding it pretty easy to maintain this weight, which is sort of a novel thing for me) or to gain and lose that same 30 pounds over and over while being obsessed with food and wracked with guilt and steeped in self loathing, which is my default setting re: my corporeal incarnation. I mean, in my adult life I have ranged from 120 to 220 pounds and all over the map in between. Neither one of those extremes were particularly healthy, but I think for my own mental health I would be very content to stick at 180 and learn to love my size 12/14 butt rather than keep battling down to an unmaintainable goal weight and then start all over again.

I don't know. I'm working on it. I'll let you know how it turns out.

― Jenny, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

I think Sarah's gist is that actively promoting ANY kind of body type is kind of silly. IE, instead of saying "hey, being plus-sized is AWESOME!" the better message might be "it doesn't matter what your body type is, as long as you're happy and healthy, because everyone is different."

xpost

― n/a, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

Yes.

― KitCat, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

Anywho, it's Friday.

― KitCat, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

of course, otm.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

Heh. I'm kind of the opposite of Sarah. What I weigh now is what I weigh when I avoid Starbucks (well, black coffee only) and walk three miles a day as part of my normal commuting routine plus additional yoga/bike riding/walking/what have you.

xp - I wonder if the "YAY PLUS SIZED! FAT PRIDE" thing is a natural reaction to the "fat women are not only less attractive but less capable, intelligent, and worth love" messages that we get as a society. Sarah, I agree with your point totally. I can also see where that chubby pride mindset comes from and why it might be necessary.

Did you know: overweight people, women in particular, make less money for the same jobs than thin people? And are more often passed over for hirings and promotions?

― Jenny, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

Did you know: overweight people, women in particular, make less money for the same jobs than thin people? And are more often passed over for hirings and promotions?

They also cost employers more in health care coverage, according to a study that came out a week or so ago. So, you know...

― n/a, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

Did you know: overweight people, women in particular, make less money for the same jobs than thin people? And are more often passed over for hirings and promotions?


that would make me the worst possible example of the word "exceptional".

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

Also, I used to have a t-shirt that said CHUBBY GIRLS RULE but my mother cut it up to use as a dust rag because she things that CHUBBY GIRLS ARE KIND OF EMBARRASSING. She also put me on a diet when I was eight.

THANKS MOM!

Enough therapy. I'm off to finish exam number two.

xp - Well, Nick, so do pregnant women and women in general and people with AIDS and people with cancer and people with allergies so should they make less money and be passed over for promotions and hirings as well?

― Jenny, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

I get that, Nick and Sarah, but there are very very few (if any?) images of average-sized women in public culture being happy, healthy, and sexy. What this discussion has mostly been about isn't whether it's better to be healthy or not-healthy(!), but whether there's any evidence in PUBLIC VIEW that like 90% of the female population weighs more than 122lbs. and does not have a 22" waist. Or whatever. We have a lot of ground to cover before a healthy size 14 woman can look around her and not feel marginalized by her environment.

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

Don't get me started on health care.

― Jeff, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

xp to Nick - I mean I understand there's a certain component of voluntariness in the argument, but to just assume that if fat people wanted to make more money or get better jobs, they could just lose some weight and get a raise over simplifies the issue.

― Jenny, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

And people with mental health issues, and people with autoimmune disorders, and clumsy people...

That's the whole point of group health insurance - to spread out the risks and costs posted by each individual in the group. It's a pretty communist idea - healthier people pay a little more than they would for individual health care so that people with more health problems can afford to have health care, too. That's how it's supposed to work. So I don't really by the "expensive health coverage" as an excuse to discrimination against people based on a societal prejudice.

― Jenny, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

"buy"

Okay bye.

― Jenny, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

Also my mother was a tall twig who didn't break 110lbs until she got pregnant at age 25 and is still convinced that her 50-some year old, 4-children-later body is ugly and makes her undesirable. I was never either tall OR thin to start with, so you know, baggage.

Haha, Jenny, get out of here.

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

hey, it's friday, can't we talk about tits or something?

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

Rebelling against a false norm is no excuse for being... you know... a big fatty. That's obvious enough. And I guess Sarah (and I, sometimes) are wondering if maybe someone somewhere is taking a shortcut to improved body image by just declaring that big is beautiful, without pointing out that big is only beautiful if you're also healthy and not just a big ol' Dorito eatin' mofo.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

Then again, I am NOT one to point this out, because I am a good ten pounds overwight and have no societal pressure to feel bad about this.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

Kenan, fuck you, you are not overweight.

NOTE I DON'T ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT OVERWEIGHT PEOPLE DESERVE TO HAVE LESS PROMOTIONS BECAUSE THEY COST MORE IN HEALTH CARE COVERAGE

― n/a, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

only because it's impossible to quantify what "overweight" is.

Smokers should pay more. That one's easy.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

fuck you fatty.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

~~~~~~~

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

Kenan, fuck you, you are not overweight.

Don't get me wrong, I am no oppressed minority, but believe me when I say that I have had too much beer and pizza and could look a lot better naked if I really wanted to.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

I am pretty cuddly, though. :) Maybe that's its own reward.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

If you're not the one to point it out, then don't.

XP: I think we're going to have different "caution" areas in this discussion partly also because of the geographic thing -- I do remember that I'm sort of shocked when I go home at how many people are...bigger than I expect. It's not like that here; not that everyone is model-material by any means, but that there's almost none of a certain kind of unhealthy-seeming...bloatedness. There are women with A LOT OF WOMAN packed solidly into some T&A, but that's as far as it normally goes.

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

That's why NYC suxxx.

― n/a, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

i've got sun dresses on my mind again.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Well, if you don't want to see fat people luxuriating in their bloatedness and using healthy, average models as a justification for that second half-gallon of Hudsonville, I'd say NYC is a GREAT place to be!

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

Hahha oh man I regret that post already.

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

My grandfathers were farmers. I got farming in my genes. I was built to work in a field all day. So when I guy like me gets a desk job...

Any time I've lived in a city with more hills than Chicago, I've lost a good 20-30 pounds fairly rapidly.

All that said, it's something I'm else self-conscious of as an adult than I was as a teenager, my blood pressure and cholesterol and all are excellent. Sure, I'd like to be in better shape.

― Eazy, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

But I'm also good with money and Nutty Bars are a quarter.

― Eazy, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

but that there's almost none of a certain kind of unhealthy-seeming... bloatedness

oh man, I'm from Houston, don't talk about unhealthy-seeming bloatedness. I thought that when I moved to Chicago I was going to see a bunch of great big fat people, because Chicago has that sausage-eating rep, but I tell you true, it's NOTHING like it is back home. Sausage-eating is no competition for DRIVING.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

I realized I needed to eat my snack. Apple consumed. Check.

― KitCat, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

You know that stock footage of enormous people walking down the street, with their heads just out of frame? That was all shot in Houston.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

Laurel, as I've mentioned before, I have a fondness for NYC, but every time I visit at some point it makes me feel fat and poor and unglamorous. I can't imagine having to deal with that pressure all the time.

― KitCat, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

Also, I'm lucky that my parents didn't give me any pressure about weight. When I wanted to diet in 8th grade (puberty weight! OH NOES!), my mom was adamantly opposed.

― KitCat, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

this is one time my general apathy/antipathy works for me. i just don't give a shit what other people think about me.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

Nick is like that. I mean, he's always telling me I care too much about what other people think.

http://www.bengal-katz.com/Woody%20at%20the%20computer%20005.jpg

― KitCat, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

Hugs, Laurel. :-D

http://aura.zaadz.com/photos/13/122394/large/kitten_on_computer.jpg

― KitCat, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

this is one time my general apathy/antipathy works for me. i just don't give a shit what other people think about me.

OTM, I've been doing this since like 9th grade and it hasn't failed me yet.

Also:

hey, it's friday, can't we talk about tits or something?

I like them.

― dan m, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

tits.jpg

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

THERE, YOU HAPPY?

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

I TAKE A BOLD PRO-BOOB STANCE ON THE ISSUE.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

does anyone here like television? this demo/live stuff is killing me. the songs on the demo sound TOTALLY different, like almost new songs. i'm loving it SO MUCH.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

ysi plz

― dan m, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

BOOBS ARE OK.

x- I like television!

― KitCat, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

WAHT DO YR BOOBS LOOK LIKE IN YR UNDERWEAR?

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.sendspace.com/file/mf6u7t

there it is^

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

Waht?!

http://www.petafoo.com/files/images/funny-kittens.preview.jpg

― KitCat, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

Some friends of mine did a Television cover set for this CBGB themed night they had at Cat's Cradle a few years ago. other performers were Richard Hell, Johnny Thunders & the Heartbreakers, and the Ramones. It was fun.

― stingy, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

I deal with the "poor" and "fat" in basically the same way, Sarah, which is to focus on picking up skills & capabilities & being equal to any situation in composure. As long as my body is strong and capable and enables me to live and have fun and learn things, it's good enough for me (if not necc for anyone else). And as long as my composure and confidence are enough to make me seem gracious & collected in a variety of situations, people who judge my financial status can go fuck themselves. Etc. There's a little reverse snobbery, mixed with a little exhaustion from having worn myself out giving a fuck and just not having time for it anymore, mixed with a few grains of ACTUAL patience & tolerance for the diversity of human experience. You try, y'know? :D

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

I want to know where these people get their kittens. Surely the number of kittens needed for all these internet pictures exceeds the number of available caretakers for grown cats.

― dan m, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

Also, I want a dog.

― dan m, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

THEY ARE ALL THE SAME KITTEN, DAN. Photoshop miracles.

― Laurel, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

i want a hot dog.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

and i need to find a second job.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

[Removed Illegal Link]

― Eazy, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.topiclink.com/gameshows/images/bobbarker.jpg

This is Bob Barker saying, please, if you love your pets, don't post pictures of them on the internets.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

aw great. NICE GOING ERIC.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

oh for fucks sake, this looks like a good time to start a new thread.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

This might be a good time for a new thread...

xpost YES

― dan m, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

yep.
someone else do it, i don't have any clever titles.

― kenan, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

http://members.cox.net/seanriddle/badcats.gif

― Eazy, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

new thread.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

[Removed Illegal Link]

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

Take that, new thread.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:31 (eighteen years ago)

I'm just kidding, I hope.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

SHIT!!!!!! I really really really didn't mean to do that!!!!!

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

How did that happen?

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

I hate myself so much.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

And I'm completely stupid.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

This is the old thread.

― Jesse, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)


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