Would You Date Someone Who Doesn't Drink?

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Option	Votes
Yes. What is liquor in the face of love?	35
No. Can you imagine all those boring nights?	18
Adam Schefter	14
Only if I thought I could mend their ways.	7

― jergïns, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

I turned down a set-up once already this year for this very reason. Well, he also didn't eat meat, which, Jesus Christ, why live at that point? Or as a certain perceptive correspondent responded, "What's next... No sexing? No laughter?"

― Laurel, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

I HAVE DONE THIS AND IT WAS A TERRIBLE IDEA.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

i'm gonna say hell no i won't go (on that date) as well

― jergïns, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, it would probably be good for me. Also, permanent desginated driver.

wait, does s/he not drink b/c s/he is a recovering alcoholic? Probably not then. If they fell off the wagon it would be messy.

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

haha i have trouble being friends with people who don't drink enough

― mookieproof, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

Also, permanent desginated driver.

OTM.

I guess I could do it if they didn't mind me drinking, but being drunk around sober people sucks.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

nah my wife doesn't care how much I drink. She does get annoyed if we're out somewhere and there's nothing non-alcoholic to drink a la Red Bull or something

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

tell her sparks is just an energy drink

― jergïns, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

ask them to make a cape cod without the vodka! It's a nice little non-drink drink.

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

what's in it? she likes ordering weird non-alcoholic things, the bartender's reactions are always illuminating.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

isn't that just cranberry juice?

i've changed my mind on this in the last month or so (when i decided alcohol should not be such a big part of my life) and decided i would date someone who doesn't drink. although it probably would depend on why they didn't drink, and what they thought of me drinking sometimes - it would be hard with someone self-righteous, disapproving, or religiously opposed, because I wouldn't totally quit drinking myself.

― Maria, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

but being drunk around sober people sucks

So does being sober around drunk people, obv, but that's another thread.

My wife drinks very rarely anymore, maybe one or two drinks a year. Not a problem, but it's not a dating situation. If I were starting over, it probably wouldn't be a deal-breaker.

― Rock Hardy, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

soda water, cranberry juice and a squeeze of lime. pretty simple. (maybe the cape cod doesn't have soda water but I like the fizzle of it)

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, I have a pretty sub-par alcohol-metabolizing system* and don't drink nearly as much as most people I know, and I'm still a little confused by people who haven't at least sorted out how to do it. (You know, apart from religious or health reasons.) But I feel bad reinforcing Thou Shalt Drink as some kind of cultural norm, so I try to suspend that confusion.

(* Seriously, I spend lots of time just marveling at the incredible alcohol-metabolizing abilities of some people and gene pools, cause even during periods of frequent drinking and decent tolerance, I have got nothing on the average drinker.)

― nabisco, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

I have friends who don't drink. Which is kind of like dating. Some of them are awesome, funny, even when you're drunk and they're not, and totally cool, and drive to boot. Others are whiny sticks in the mud about it and are totally lame to even have a single scotch near. So, it depends on the teetotaler in question.

― Will M., Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not sure what you're saying there Nabisco - confused at people that haven't sorted out how to drink...?

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

These days I'm often a tee-totaler when out with my guy. He has no ability to stop while he's ahead and I'm fond of getting us both home safely. More often than not though we stay home and drink, which is the new going out to drink.

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

Generally, my behaviour drives people to drink, so it wouldn't be a problem for long.

― John Justen, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

i dont drink :( UNDATEABLE

― sunny successor, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

More often than not though we stay home and drink, which is the new going out to drink.

also ridiculously cheaper!

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

i lived with a girl who RARELY drank (like only at weddings or what not) and it wasn't a big deal. she didn't like it when i drank a lot but she understood that i liked to drink just as i understood that she didn't. it wasn't a big deal.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

I think its weird to assume that someone who doesn't drink is either a) a self-righteous moralizing "I hate fun" type or b) in AA.

There are people who just don't like to drink, or for whom it is detrimental to their health.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

i HATE FUN

― sunny successor, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

meat and drink cause cancer, so you won't hafta bury them.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

shakey, I would not assume either of those things but I would want to know b/c those conditions would change my answer to this question.

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:11 (eighteen years ago)

nabisco, as someone who drinks only for effect (except maybe for Stoli Vanil) I envy your piddling metabolic abilities.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

oh yeah totally MM - anyone who's in recovery is obliged to let potential partners know the deal, I think.

I was just talking more generally - like, say, I'm at some office party with my wife and she's not drinking, someone will inevitably notice and make some (usually entirely inaccurate) assumptions about her.

x-post

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

yeah that shit's dumb for sure

― jergïns, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

I have friends I drink with (chilx, mostly) and friends I do not. The latter category includes my girlfriend, and almost all of my oldest friends. They just don't do alcohol. *shrug*

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

xxpost
like she's knocked up?

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

Shakey, I guess I'm thinking less of people who Just Don't Drink (every so often I'm totally one of those) and more of the small subset of people who seem slightly pinched, weird, or uncomfortable about it, and not for health or religious reasons. But like I said, I try not to think of it, because it's dumb to act like someone's abnormal for not wanting to drink! And people acting like they're abnormal is probably a good amount of why they might be pinched and weird and dogmatic about the whole thing.

Ha, just for reference, I'm not kidding about being equally in awe of people who can drink a ton. If it takes X units of alcohol for my brain to get woo-hoo drunk, it takes about X-1 for my body to make me regret it later, so any getting drunk I do stays toward the bottom end of the scale -- the fact that some people can get visibly super-drunk multiple nights a week and bounce back from it okay is totally astounding to me, like watching a snake dislodge its jaw and swallow an entire deer.

― nabisco, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

Love the booze math dude.

― nickalicious, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

i have friends i drink with and friends i drink heavily with.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

i don't care if people drink or not. it's a silly thing to get all worked up about, on either side of the argument.

― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

booze math: 5 half liters of schultheiss=start a thread!

― jergïns, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

i would swallow all these deers, drunk

― jergïns, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

the fact that some people can get visibly super-drunk multiple nights a week and bounce back from it okay is totally astounding to me

Wow, i don't think i know anyone who does that. That would be astounding to me, too, but more like witnessing a car wreck.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

One of my good friends does not drink at all, and I do admire his ability to stick to his guns while also not minding when his friends get wasted around him (and still have a good time).

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

I dated a wonderful woman who didn't really like to drink, but she would never talk about it and would always accept a drink and take small sips during toasts etc.

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

Uh, Kenan, I can think of people you know who do that.

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

really? visibly super-drunk multiple nights a week?

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

I suggest that such balls to the wall drinking does have negative effects, just not neccesarily visible to the casual observer.

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:22 (eighteen years ago)

I married a non-drinker who permuted over time into an anti-drinker who got all righteous if I had a glass of wine and who made sneering, embarrassing comments about "beer drinkers". Never again. ymmv.

― Jaq, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

well, twice a week is multiple if you want to get technical. and despite being in a bar every night of the week last week i have not been in one since sunday so cram it.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

wait, who's cramming what?

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe I just get the wrong impression via Chicago thread.

(some of my friends in Milwaukee definitely live like this, though)

xpost, haha, sorry Kevin

― Jordan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

jaq i <3 your divorce

― jergïns, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

I often go through phases of not drinking and people always think I'm pregnant. I wasn't drinking when I was thrown a going away party at my last job and the whole office thought I was knocked up! It's kind of annoying. When going through a period of sobriety, I think the people I've gone out with feel more uncomfortable about than I ever have.

― ENBB, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

no one is cramming anything. if i weren't flat broke i would totally go out for beers tonight. who's spinning at club foot tonight? jay's still on tour in europe i think.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

this thread has made me want beers tonight.

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

I go through self-imposed phases of not drinking to prove that I can, because 12-stepping sounds like a lot less than fun.

― kenan, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i just emailed my wednesday night drinking partner and she's up for beers if i am so i think i may hit someplace later this evening.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

!

Sorry, I didn't mean like every single week of one's life or anything. And I know those people aren't just popping out of bed all rosy the next morning. Just that if I get seriously stumbling drunk, I'm out of commission for like 24 hours and don't want to touch a drink again for the better part of a week. Some special folks can do that on Thursday, go to work on Friday, and then do it again Saturday. I also know multiple people who do the "quitting now and then just to keep sure that I can" thing, which is equally outside my world. All of this is fine except that I suppose I'm missing out on whatever awesome experience of alcohol precedes worrying about its role in your life!

― nabisco, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

i drink wine during the week and beer on weekends, but i have only been drunk twice in the past year and i think that was at least once too many.

also, blood diamonds: "if I get seriously stumbling drunk, I'm out of commission for like 24 hours and don't want to touch a drink again for the better part of a week. "

― félix pié, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

what is blood diamonds the new version of again?

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

I would not date anyone who didn't drink

http://www.calstatela.edu/library/mmc/100/days_wine_roses.jpg

― brownie, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

blood diamonds is the new 8080

― félix pié, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

blood diamonds is the new respeck nuckles.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

Sure. I drink relatively little as it is, due to pull-over paranoia. If I'm out, I'll do a shot or two to start and then just drink water - never got on board with beer or wine.

I probably wouldn't date someone who was avidly anti-drinking (and anyone anti-drinking probably has a host of other issues to bother me) or had a serious problem with it for the aforementioned reasons. But someone who just didn't drink because they don't feel like it, no problem.

― milo z, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

Blood Diamonds is a film starring Djimon Hounsou and Loleonardo DiCaprio

― nickalicious, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

a better question might be, Where would I MEET someone who doesn't drink?

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

if i go out, i don't drink more than 2 beers (or one large one) because of that pullover paranoia. if i lived somewhere with decent public transit, i might drink a little more.

― félix pié, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper657/stills/ko2rs72o.jpg

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

For Moribus

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

HAHAH Morbs OTM

― Laurel, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

Mass transit or living within walking distance of a decent bar would be nice.

― milo z, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

i can't fathom not being able to walk home or take public transportation from the bar.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

it makes drinking a completely different experience.

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

I wouldn't even ask someone out if we weren't both drunk already.

― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

"texas air conditioning" - cold beer held in crotch while driving

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

i can't fathom not being able to walk home or take public transportation from the bar.

actually, let me ammend that because there have been occasions where i couldn't walk home from the bar.

― chicago kevin, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

totally would

― homosexual II, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

the better question is would you date someone while you yourself were sober?

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

I'm married to a non-drinker - altho she did drink when we first met and for some of the time when we were dating. But she hasn't had a drink in like 8 years or something now. She has other vices that we share tho, maybe that "makes up" for it.

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:31 PM (1 hour ago)

http://pics.livejournal.com/azraelle/pic/000caza3

― and what, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

I was dating someone who could drink, but could not drive afterward and would have to drink in careful moderation. It had some weird moments, because I'd sometimes worry if she did drink -- she's epileptic, and even with medication the hangover effect could start a seizure.

So we'd go out and she'd sometimes have a drink or two, but often not. It wasn't that awkward for me.

― mh, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

And sadly, I've really kind of missed her lately so my first response was to think that yeah, I surely would if I could again!

― mh, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

I have a friend who doesn't drink whom I'd definitely date. Unfortunately, once I was quite drunk and thought I was subtly inquiring about his romantic status when really I was blatantly hitting on him, which I realized as soon as I was sober. Well, that didn't work. In fact, it probably gave him another really good reason not to drink.

― Maria, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

aw drunkgirlpaws

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

not drinking is worse than not eating meat unless either is for a medical reason

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

But the big get-out clause is that lots of non-drinkers will list "barfing" as a medical reason, and not let you do experiments to prove they can drink a bit without that danger.

― nabisco, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

Misery, there are plenty of Christian gay men in NY who can drink me under the table

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

Christian gay men

surely this shows they have some issues?

(pls not to start debate on homosexuality and chritianity. just being snarky)

― Ms Misery, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

i would think the non-drinker is always more uncomfortable with the drinker(s) than the other way around? When I drink slowly(i was gonna say "when i don't drink" but yahright) around people who're getting wasted they become 100x more tedious and annoying and I can't wait to leave. I don't know how non-drinkers can stand it in social occasion after social occasion but I guess that's why they're them and I need a drink.

― tremendoid, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

But the big get-out clause is that lots of non-drinkers will list "barfing" as a medical reason, and not let you do experiments to prove they can drink a bit without that danger.

If I drink too much (more than 3 beers, if I'm lucky), I get stupidly sick, i.e. migraine, barfing, etc. (gross). I didn't always have a pseudo-allergic reaction to alcohol like I do now, but given my enjoyment of the booze, I guess this is a good thing to keep me in check. Also, I don't think of myself as a non-drinker, just one who has to moderate so I don't end up with a blazing headache. If I were forced to give up all together, I would be bummed.

― molly mummenschanz, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

my wife is going to happy hour tonight without me

;_;

― mookieproof, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

I drink enough that a non drinker would have a problem with it, I assume. The guy I just broke up with was never much of a drinker around me but now we're just flatmates all of a sudden he's "wheres the wine!?" all the time which is kind of weird.

Nabisco/Kenan: Ive had sections of time where I've gotten *at least really tipsy* almost every night of the week for a week or 2, and still managed work and whatnot. Y'just get used to the bleariness. Its not at all good though.

― Trayce, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

My boy and I don't drink but for very different reasons. (One likes it too much, the other not at all.) We enjoy hanging out at bars with friends but it's nice having another clear head to relate to.

― lindseykai, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 23:33 (eighteen years ago)

I wouldn't rule it out, but since 90% of my social life revolves around drinking I don't see how it would come to pass.

― chap, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 23:50 (eighteen years ago)

You people are a bunch of drunks. I hardly drink at all (and that's been true, even during those periods when I've had a real life, over the past decade or so), so no, it wouldn't bother me. It would bother me to date someone who wanted to get drunk frequently.

― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 23:57 (eighteen years ago)

Ha, Trayce, I've had plenty of people tell me it's a tolerance issue along those lines, but seriously, people just have different abilities to metabolize alcohol. (Some of it even depends on where in the world you're from -- Euro/Caucasian folks seem to lead the pack in being able to metabolize lactose and alcohol both!) In any case, I am totally not sweating my body keeping me from drinking any more than a normal healthy amount of alcohol, or capping my potential drunkenness at once a week, which is seriously plenty. I guess I just won't be able to empathize with those Lifetime movies about collegiate binge drinking.

― nabisco, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 23:57 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, a couple bad hangovers is a pretty good trade for a built-in immunity to alcoholism.

― nabisco, Thursday, 26 April 2007 00:00 (eighteen years ago)

people just have different abilities to metabolize alcohol.

And of course metabolisms change over the years. Hello mid-forties, bleurgh.

― Rock Hardy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 00:04 (eighteen years ago)

Hahaha, lately I've been having conversations with people about how our lives revolve around what probably qualifies as low-level functional alcoholism. It's not that any of us get WASTED frequently, but I drink LIGHTLY probably about 6 days a week, "lightly" being between 1 and 4 drinks throughout the evening (it varies from as little as a beer with dinner, to as drunk as I can reasonably get on a night when I have work at 9am the next day).

Basically the sleep deprivation is hurting me SO much more than the alcohol, but it would still be weird to spend much time with someone who abstained during all that time that I was drinking.

― Laurel, Thursday, 26 April 2007 01:01 (eighteen years ago)

Hahaha, lately I've been having conversations with people about how our lives revolve around what probably qualifies as low-level functional alcoholism.

same, without the "low-level" part. N & L & i think it would probably be better if we cut down but, y'know, why? what's the alternative? would it positively or negatively affect our lives? positive in the long-term health effects was all we could come up with, negatively in almost every other aspect.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 01:04 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah thirded. Guh. I do try! But it isnt messing my life up, so... Idunno.

― Trayce, Thursday, 26 April 2007 01:11 (eighteen years ago)

lung cancer and misadventure will get me before the cirhotting (sp?) liver will.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 01:20 (eighteen years ago)

I am currently dating someone who rarely drinks (although "living with" is a more accurate description of our relationship). He'll have a glass of wine or beer with dinner every couple of months, but that's it. Having spent my early 20s in a state of almost constant drunkenness, with a group of friends who would not accept an alcohol-free Friday night for any reason at all, it is a lovely lovely change.

― franny glass, Thursday, 26 April 2007 01:55 (eighteen years ago)

^^Just think it and, you know, be it.

― Drooone, Thursday, 26 April 2007 04:37 (eighteen years ago)

[i]Misery, there are plenty of Christian gay men in NY who can drink me under the table[/]

yeah, most RC priests are both gay & drunks

― gershy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 05:24 (eighteen years ago)

AFTER SEVERAL HOURS IN A DORM HALLWAY LYING IN A PDUDLE OF MY OWN GIN-SOAKED PUKe I MAY HAVE TO RECONSIDER MY FEEELINGS OF MORAL SUPERIORITY TOWARDS NON-DRINKERS

― bernard snowy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 05:33 (eighteen years ago)

no no you were right to feel superior, i don't drink and i am dismal, you can be the lazarus of booze, have a little snifter and some fried chicken and you'll soon be right as rain.

― estela, Thursday, 26 April 2007 05:43 (eighteen years ago)

Laurel:
I turned down a set-up once already this year for this very reason. Well, he also didn't eat meat, which, Jesus Christ, why live at that point?

*SOBS*

― koogs, Thursday, 26 April 2007 08:35 (eighteen years ago)

"Date" ha ha.

But uh, yeah, I would probably theoretically date someone who didn't drink so long as they didn't make a fuss about the fact that I did. I mean, I've dealt with my mum and her "just doesn't like it" turning to "you're going to ALKYHELL!!!" if you have, like, 2 pints enough of my life.

― Masonic Boom, Thursday, 26 April 2007 09:54 (eighteen years ago)

I think my big problem here - which is a massive personality flaw I HATE about myself - is that I would feel judged, or disapproved of, every time I had a drink - I'd be constantly racked by guilt. And the very first time I made a tit of myself to this person while tipsy (i.e. the most inevitable thing ever), this feeling would magnify, permanently, tenfold. I really don't know if I could.

― Mark C, Thursday, 26 April 2007 10:57 (eighteen years ago)

no no you were right to feel superior, i don't drink and i am dismal, you can be the lazarus of booze, have a little snifter and some fried chicken and you'll soon be right as rain.

-- estela, Thursday, 26 April 2007 05:43 (5 hours ago)

I cannot figure out what "the lazarus of booze" means but I did spend most of last night feeling somewhere in between alive and dead

― bernard snowy, Thursday, 26 April 2007 11:28 (eighteen years ago)

It's where yr wings fall off and you descend into a sea of Watneys.

― Mark G, Thursday, 26 April 2007 11:33 (eighteen years ago)

Wasn't that Icarus?

If free, I would date someone who didn't booze, absolutely. I am thinking it wouldn't last though. It's not as if my whole life revolves around the booze but it's just that the pub/the late night glass of something/the occasional boozy lunch is great when you're both drinking, but would probably not be otherwise. It would depend on her attitude to drinking - if it was judgemental then obv a non-starter, if not then it *could* work, possibly?

― Dr.C, Thursday, 26 April 2007 11:40 (eighteen years ago)

If it takes X units of alcohol for my brain to get woo-hoo drunk, it takes about X-1 for my body to make me regret it later, so any getting drunk I do stays toward the bottom end of the scale -- the fact that some people can get visibly super-drunk multiple nights a week and bounce back from it okay is totally astounding to me, like watching a snake dislodge its jaw and swallow an entire deer.

Well, it's really just a case of the more often you do it, the easier it is to handle in the short term, although long-term effects are, of course, a different matter.

― braveclub, Thursday, 26 April 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)

Booze is such a socially plumbed in thing that I think I would also find this hard. Like Mark C, I feel extremely guilty generally if I am drinking and the other person is not, and share the embarassment fear. Generally I wouldn't drink either, or drink much much less than I usually would, which could be totally fine, but if I really wanted a drink could end up in resentment etc, also someone wanting to leave the pub much earlier than you do if you pub-socialise together lots...

Drinking at home though wouldn't usually be a problem as I don't really do this at all, and I think I would actually find it uncomfortable if someone did this around me to a really apparent effect! It's really the socialising thing, but I am sure that could be got round if you like the person enough!

Then again I am British = there are three people in any relationship I am in, ME, "BOYF" and BOOZE.

― Sarah, Thursday, 26 April 2007 12:07 (eighteen years ago)

Lazarus a guy who gets raised from the dead...that was a cute post!

― Maria, Thursday, 26 April 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

Don't cry, Andy. You'll outlive me by a couple of decades, I shouldn't wonder, and even my corpse won't be pretty by the time the chemo is done with me.

― Laurel, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

I neglected to mention that many of the Christian gay men in NY who can drink me under the table are called "priests."

btw, a study released this week said that 1/4 of NYC men are "binge drinkers." Their definition of that group is having FIVE drinks or more at a sitting ONCE a month. Hello, 25 Percenters.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:16 (eighteen years ago)

It's much more about the person's reasons for not drinking for me than whether or not they drink. If someone has silly, moralistic rationalizations and/or they're just afraid to let go, dating would not be much fun. But I'm not a heavy drinker myself (though I can hold my alcohol), and my wife is a complete lightweight, which is fine since it's easier on our budget.

― Hurting 2, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

Course the only reasons I can think of for NEVER drinking are either 1) moralistic/uptight/religous or 2) the person is a recovering alcoholic.

I would be slightly nervous about dating a recovering alcoholic.

― Hurting 2, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

BARTRIP Morbs, how is that not more like sixty percent?? Maybe if they included everyone over the age of puberty....

― Laurel, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:24 (eighteen years ago)

it's less the socialising-with-alcohol that i'd worry about - i've been in pubs with people who weren't drinking, this putative non-drinker would have been in pubs with drunk people, presumably both of us would have learnt to deal with it - than the, you know, one of the most lovely/intimate things to do with a boy is to get gently and gradually pissed and silly at home with them. not all the time obv but still.

also, not drinking AT ALL implies a rigidity of character i'd be uncomfortable with anyway. most 'non-drinkers' i've known do drink, just rarely and lightly.

― lex pretend, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

It could be a health-thing you know.

― Ms Misery, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

Naw, that's just silly.

― Laurel, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

Euro/Caucasian folks seem to lead the pack in being able to metabolize lactose and alcohol both!

Whoo! White Russians for all these white people!

― Jenny, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

Not as in choosing to be healthy but as in a health-condition that prevents you from imbibing.

― Ms Misery, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

i think the biggest detriment from drinking is that it frequently leads to early-morning burritos. did i really need a fried burrito at one a.m.?

wait, that's not a detriment. nevermind.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

Not to mention putting them in your groin area and asking women to touch them.

― braveclub, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

i use flautas for that.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

but Kevin, flautas are so much smaller and skinnier. You should at least go with a chimichanga. Don't sell yourself short.

― Ms Misery, Thursday, 26 April 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

oh wait, are we using food as a substitute for our genitalia? in that case i carry around a leg of lamb and ask women to touch that.

― chicago kevin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

I've not been a big drinker ever, and I don't feel awkward or put upon dealing with drunk friends. I like knowing that I can give rides at the end of the night and remember all the silly hijinx the following morning. My friends have never had a problem with it because I'm goofy enough sober and hey, free ride home.

I get something that looks like a drink or have soda. Sometimes I'll drink along, but it depends on medication/allergies/etc. My tolerance is super low, so I either nurse a drink all night or have one and then switch to non-alc anyway. I'll even buy a round for everyone, it's not an issue.

― patita, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

That's swell! :D

I've never had a pal or date who doesn't drink and I don't know how I'd find one! It was hard to meet le man who doesn't smoke an 1/8th of weed a day, tho, which kind of kills things socially & in bed (in my experience).

― Abbott, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

Huh. For me a little weed has always erm . . heightened things in the bedroom.

― ENBB, Thursday, 26 April 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

That's a personal thing though, not necessarily meant to imply that it has had a postitive impact on frequency or performance of partners.

― ENBB, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

No, this guy just got too stoned to want to fuck. :( It helpes me out too, leading to a frstrating heightened desire on my part & reduced on his. ===bad.

― Abbott, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I've been in that particularly unfortunate situation before myself. Not good.

― ENBB, Thursday, 26 April 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

It helpes me out too, leading to a frstrating heightened desire on my part & reduced on his. ===bad.

Socially, OK, I may get a little subverbal, but who doesn't get the horn when stoned? It's like the munchies but for pussy.

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

!!!!!

― Ms Misery, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

Michael, you're such a charmer.

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

Well put, MW, although I'd have expected a better euphemism from you.

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

Basically the sleep deprivation is hurting me SO much more than the alcohol

totally 8080... I could get shitfaced, but if I'm in bed by 11, I'm golden. Problem is, if I'm shitfaced, I'll be up until 3. Hey, don't want to miss any of the fun!

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

Michael, you're such a charmer.

*Bows and scrapes*

Why, thank you mademoiselle.

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

Ed, that's not a euphesmism at all, is it? It's merely the plain, unvarnished truth and while I'm at it, it sure smells better on your fingers afterwards than Doritos, doesn't it?

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

I don't feel especially horny when stoned. Not *especially*.

― kenan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

The plain unvarnished truth would be more biological. Surely there must be a turn of phrase from some latin erotic poetry that would suit, or maybe something from second empire france?

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

For me, it's far too early for such talk Michael.

― Ms Misery, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

jesus, michael.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 27 April 2007 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

How's this for euphemism, Ed?

Le cannabis tend à inspirer en moi un goût presque démesuré pour une collation de moule barbue.

Actually, I think euphemism grosses me out more than plain talk.

Sorry, ladies. My mind, as ever, is in the, uh, gutter.

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

no, no, it's quite alright, i was just stunned to read that so soon after waking up.

― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 27 April 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, that hardly conjures images of foppish 19th century love poetry to me.

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

Chick who doesn't drink dates dude who does drink. Chick sees dude all drunk and shit and can feel superior. Power shift to Chick! Dude can only get drunk and hit chick to regain control. all turns out wrong.

― Gukbe, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

For once I'm not sorry about my lack of French.

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

LOL hairy mussels

― braveclub, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

Ed, I know it's First Empire and not exactly foppish, but there are several love letters Napoléon wrote to Joséphine where he expresses a lively desire to revist her 'black forest', though according to everything I've read, Boney's technique was essentially rabbit-fucking.

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

YEs I don't associate him with the greats in the annals of sexual conquest. However The munchies and black forest [gateau] would work out quite well.

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://banquetexpress.com.au/banquet/images/imagecache/BlackForest1.jpg

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

Whoops, X-post!

― Laurel, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

Where oh where has this thread gone?

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

friday afternoon, that's where.

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

hangover prevents me from making a cherry-based joke.

― chicago kevin, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

Drinkin' island, already? Chocolate cake and the sexing habits of French emperors, oh my.

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

I love that everything I've posted so far this lovely Friday morning is about drinkin', smokin' or screwin' adorned with references to snacks, bivalves and baked goods. Bring on the weekend!

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

amen, brother

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

Mutter mutter mumffle, I'm not likely to have any of those things this weekend. Though Frances is coming round this evening and we are going to go to DRINKIN' ISLAND.

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

Michael, it's even earlier where you are than it is for me. You must be in quite a state today.

― Ms Misery, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

i might get drunk tonight :D

― lex pretend, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

Sam, I'm almost always in this state, I'm just too under-caffeinated to use my 'indoor voice' this morning.

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe we will GET DRUNK AND MAKE PROG. I think this may be the way forward.

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

damnit I'd like to be drunk in three places at once tonight.

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

A few years ago I'd probably have thought "no" to this question.

Last night I was DJing and some unholy fuckhead kept asking me if I could find him drugs, eventually, after politely telling him to ask people on the dancefloor or something. Then he started offering me cocaine, which made sense, presumably he wouldn't shut up cos he was so coked. He kept on and on, and on, and on, until eventually I just half shouted "I DON'T DRINK OR DO DRUGS OK?"

And then I saw myself. Felt very weird.

As I often say these days, not drinking and not doing drugs makes you feel far more unhinged and disconnected than doing so, at least when all your friends do both regularly.

― Ronan, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

sorry I can't post properly today at all...that sentence at the start makes no sense, that's another thing, I now know that the biggest cause of feeling shit is staying up late.

― Ronan, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

DRINKIN' ISLAND

Pray tell, what is this idyllic isle, this Arcadia, this elysian spot of which you speak?

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

Drinkin' island in side each and every one of us, my son.

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

ha ha, I forgot when I went into hospital this morning I still had my "welcome to drinkin' island" badge on. And one of the surgeons asked me about it. I had to kind of stutter it was a joke, and just a good luck token.

I NEVER DRINK OH NO NO NO, DRINKING IS TERRIBLY UNHEALTHY AND I AM PURE AS THE DRIVEN SNOW NOW GET THIS FREAKING LUMP OFF MY WRIST!

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/196/452330681_53383e0151.jpg

― Ed, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

"No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind..."

However, apparently, everyone has their own Drinkin' Island' in them!

Early morning alcoholic metaphysics!!

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

Kate, what happened that they had to postpone your surgery?

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

I now know that the biggest cause of feeling shit is staying up late.

otmfm

― lex pretend, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

I was assaulted by a random mentalist who scratched up the same wrist that was supposed to be operated on. They didn't want to operate for fear of infection until the wounds are healed over, as random mentalists what live on the corner of Tottenham Court Road have not the cleanest of fingernails.

I wish I could find the random mentalist magnet in me, I would turn it off if I could.

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

That's awful, Kate.

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

But I am looking on the bright side! I can drink this weekend, which I could not have had I had the surgery today!

― Masonic Boom, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

Silver lining!

― Michael White, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

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