I have, like, many gay friends on ILX.

Message Bookmarked

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Including you.

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 07:51 (eighteen years ago)

Better, Jesse?

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 07:52 (eighteen years ago)

Although,

A recurring gay thread is good, especially since I'm not sure how I feel about this thread's title--it seems like this is a refuge for alienated gays to find the gay friends they, like, don't have in town.

It's like that, except for the "wanting to find gay friends" bit. But it's fun to chat, sure.

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 07:54 (eighteen years ago)

― jed_, Friday, 27 April 2007 07:55 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not gay I'm just resting.

― blueski, Friday, 27 April 2007 10:09 (eighteen years ago)

― lex pretend, Friday, 27 April 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

What happened to the theban horde?

― Ms Misery, Friday, 27 April 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

this thread needs more chris pontius

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o223/clayton_wright/ththparty4xf1.gif

lol gifs

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 27 April 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

slightly hypnotising

― I know, right?, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

This thread needs me to turn off images again.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 27 April 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

I have, like, many gay friends on ILX.

Including you.

-- Casuistry, Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 AM (10 hours ago)
Better, Jesse?

-- Casuistry, Friday, April 27, 2007 2:52 AM (10 hours ago)

HA HA

I was wondering why the nogayfriends thread was so far down the line!

― Jesse, Friday, 27 April 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah can we keep this thread SFW? Pls oh pretty pls?

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

too late

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

I REQUIRE PIXURSZ!!

― Stevie D, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

Aw, I thought Chris Pontius' wiggling ass would be accepted with open hands :(

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

SHOW ME YOUR WEENIS!

― PappaWheelie V, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know who he is, but I'm not all that impresed or pleased by his ass shaking gif.

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know who he is

!!!!!

http://www.thefader.com/blog/files/jackass.jpg

― Ms Misery, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

And apparently I couldn't pick him out of a lineup.

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

but you know who those guys are, right?

― Ms Misery, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

took me a minute too recognize any of those guys but Knoxville's hard to miss

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

I could have picked a more well-known picture but the hot tub was too hard to pass up.

― Ms Misery, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

They're a bunch of white guys in a hot tub?

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

not just any white guys, JACKASSES. num.

― Ms Misery, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

no wee man no credibility

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

It was quite apt, Ms.ery

― Stevie D, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

oh wait there he is in the back, never mind

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

why you gotta dis wee man like that? implying he's so small he might as well be invisible?

― Ms Misery, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

You know, I would go for any of the guys on the right, none of the guys on the left, and mmmmaybe Steve-O if I was wicked drunk.

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

Ryan Dunn's hot.

― Stevie D, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

... mostly because I'm certain Steve-O would vomit on me. x asstrap

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

I used to watch Viva La Bam solely for the eye candy. Mostly for this guy:

http://cute-bubble-freak.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/raab4.jpg

― Ivan, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

that better be a picture of the fat dad

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

Aw, where did Raab go?

― Ivan, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

I wouldn't go for any of them. Jesus.

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

Raab Himself is a strange character. . .you should check out the CKY videos.

Ryan. . .he's looking too mountain man lately

― Ms Misery, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

Bam was hot before he went all goth rocker boy. bleargh.

― Ms Misery, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.geocities.com/viva_raab_gallery/

!

― Ivan, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

Ryan. . .he's looking too mountain man lately

roffle otm

― Stevie D, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

He needs a buzz cut though.

― Stevie D, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

pls let's not turn thread into SPLASH

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

Friends are over-rated. Or maybe I say that because I have, like, five in total.

― Ivan, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

do most of you younger ILX queers care anything for queer countercultures? Feel they are a thing of the past? Are you content with embracing queer images and causes in the aboveground media and communities, for integration's sake?

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

Wasn't that what the last thread was about? Kinda sorta?

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

Also "younger ILX queers" means younger than me, hurrah.

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

^^^ interesting question (beartrap to Morbius)

― jaymc, Friday, 27 April 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

is beartrap the new xpost?

You just have an old soul, Casuistry.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

I don't :(

(with regards to thread title)

Hi there!

I said this, not o-ess

slightly hypnotising

I did not say that.

Damnd shared computer.

― I know, right?, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

do most of you younger ILX queers care anything for queer countercultures? Feel they are a thing of the past? Are you content with embracing queer images and causes in the aboveground media and communities, for integration's sake?

Yeah I used to be, but I've been getting very involved with queer theory in college (following feminist and Marxist) and it feels much more relevant to me than I would have thought. Elaborating would make me sound like a twat.

― I know, right?, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Honey, go back and read the other thread.

Now elaborate, goddamnit.

― Stevie D, Friday, 27 April 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

"I know, right?", who if anyone were you on old-ILX? This new system is confusing as all get out to me.

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:04 (eighteen years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/2749/1632/1600/fox.0.jpg

― Stevie D, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:08 (eighteen years ago)

Hello boys!

― JW, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:17 (eighteen years ago)

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:17 (eighteen years ago)

yes , that's a weird one.

― jed_, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:19 (eighteen years ago)

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4300/matthewfoxbulgerp2.jpg

closeup

― Stevie D, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

FFS, Steve.

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

i like the idea of queer countercultures. i think they're kind of...still necessary? still potentially important.

but in reality they're all so. fucking. lame. (in london anyway.)

indie kids with even worse dress sense than str8 indie kids, playing patrick wolf and fox'n'wolf and a litany of awful girl rappers and le fucking tigre. gimme a hip-hop or r&b or proper house night over that shit!

also, i second the "who is i know, right?" qn.

also i would like a new celebrity crush (or even a real life one would do!) justin is smug and punchable these days and i'm bored of jake gyllenhaal.

also DRUNX :D

― lex pretend, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:21 (eighteen years ago)

you have a funny (and not unexpectedly completely ahistorical) idea of "queer counterculture"

get one Kenneth Anger
or John Waters
or shit even Oscar Wilde

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

also i would like a new celebrity crush (or even a real life one would do!) justin is smug and punchable these days and i'm bored of jake gyllenhaal.

Mark Ruffalo seems to be a popular crush round these parts...

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:23 (eighteen years ago)

what's this, bulge report?

― jed_, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:23 (eighteen years ago)

oh i missed that that was Lex's idea of gay counterculture, i thought it just a drunken non sequitur.

― jed_, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:26 (eighteen years ago)

"Queer counterculture" isn't really what makes any of those people interesting. (Obviously?)

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:27 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, I might take that back: It's possible that the only interesting thing about "Fireworks" is that it was made by a 17-year-old in 1947.

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

yes obviously but its a part of their identity and a part of their roots (what makes them interesting is that they were all great and sharp and smart about what they were doing) - I was just annoyed at Lex's typical obliviousness to anything pre-his birthday

(I was about to say pre-Paul McCartney but then remembered that even THAT's probably too old for Lex)

x-post

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah but Morbs wasn't asking about before Lex's birthday.

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

WDCLL 0407:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/127/350174469_7cb3d663d4_o.jpg

― Stevie D, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:49 (eighteen years ago)

Ick! Also, that's from 0107.

― Casuistry, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:54 (eighteen years ago)

I posted it in 0407.

― Stevie D, Friday, 27 April 2007 23:58 (eighteen years ago)

Also I think I just changed the setting so most people can't see it now.

Because, gack.

Nevertheless Stevie wants me to post a pic of him so here goes:

http://photos-306.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v67/9/14/8832499/n8832499_34273306_4608.jpg

Now can we get back to talking?

― Casuistry, Saturday, 28 April 2007 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

Insert "powerful tool" joke, if you must.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 28 April 2007 00:02 (eighteen years ago)

OMG that's the worst pic ever i can't believe you did that.

― Stevie D, Saturday, 28 April 2007 00:05 (eighteen years ago)

Sweet sweet vengeance. Except I like that pic. Although it is a little LOL COLLEGE.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 28 April 2007 00:08 (eighteen years ago)

I wrote a poem today for you Chris. It's called Untitled (Episodic Wanderings through the Alpha-Male Psyche)

words
words words

--Steve, 04/27/07

― Stevie D, Saturday, 28 April 2007 00:09 (eighteen years ago)

re: queer countercultures: i like that they exist even if i don't feel necessarily like i'm part of one

― impudent harlot, Saturday, 28 April 2007 06:42 (eighteen years ago)

also that pic of stevie rules

― impudent harlot, Saturday, 28 April 2007 06:43 (eighteen years ago)

justin is smug and punchable these days and i'm bored of jake gyllenhaal.

WHA?!?!

― Tape Store, Saturday, 28 April 2007 06:52 (eighteen years ago)

celeb crushes! i'm way into ryan gosling these days, even though i'm pretty sure i've never seen a single film he's been in

― impudent harlot, Saturday, 28 April 2007 07:20 (eighteen years ago)

HALF NELSON!!! Sexiest drug addict you will EVER SEE.

― Stevie D, Saturday, 28 April 2007 07:23 (eighteen years ago)

OK you ppls turns to post pix!

― Stevie D, Saturday, 28 April 2007 07:25 (eighteen years ago)

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6527/3666045781826929a15od3.jpg

this is because chris is a pooper and tore down the old one.

― Stevie D, Saturday, 28 April 2007 07:30 (eighteen years ago)

Well I've never posted to ILE before like yesterday, but I post on ILM from time to time. I had the unfortunate idea of going with the name "from The Ends of your Fingers" in what can only be described as a terrible Animal Collective obsession caused mistake. Hello.

― I know, right?, Saturday, 28 April 2007 09:06 (eighteen years ago)

Oh. Well, hello.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 28 April 2007 09:33 (eighteen years ago)

Oh! Wait, now I have made the connection to the pic you posted on the WDYLL thread. I guess I could have made approving comments about it after all.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 28 April 2007 09:56 (eighteen years ago)

There was a guy on campus today wearing an argyle-ish shirt, and I was talking to my other gay friend, and I was like, "his shirt is cuter than he is" and he nodded and I said "I mean I thought he might be cute too because he's kinda slouchy too but now that I've seen his face straight on he's maybe a douche" and he nodded and I said "still it's a really nice shirt, I don't know, maybe I am being too harsh on him, it's just that I had such high expectations, what with his shirt and his slouching" and my friend finished his cigarette and said, "well, that happens sometimes."

― Casuistry, Saturday, 28 April 2007 10:07 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

Oh, well I am sometimes on ILM but I'm pretty sure nobody who posts there remembers me. I had the name "from the ends of your fingers" for a while because I was having a very animal collective day (week, month year) when I signed up now.

― I know, right?, Saturday, 28 April 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

Hello!

― I know, right?, Saturday, 28 April 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

Celeb crushes:

-Brandon Flowers
-Eminem
-TR Knight

― Jesse, Saturday, 28 April 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

And OF COURSE Chris Pontius, Johnny Knoxville, and Bam Margera!!

― Jesse, Saturday, 28 April 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

And while I wouldn't call it a crush, I would probably sleep with Steve-O if I met him in a bar.

― Jesse, Saturday, 28 April 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

so i'm in the minority for preferring steve-o to bam?

― impudent harlot, Saturday, 28 April 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

OH I'd take Steve-O over Bam any day but I've a feeling it would be extremely underwhelming. He'd probably do it on a dare and, like, drink tabasco sauce while taking it in the ass at the same time.

― Stevie D, Saturday, 28 April 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

Caz, are you still learning Welsh or something?

― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 28 April 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

I'm gonna elaborate on what I said earlier about the queer subculture thingamajig here.

This is what I've read about it condensed into non-ass sounding as possible sentences that hopefully do not require me to use the word semiotics.

Marxist theory says that all art either supports or rebels against the ideology of its age.

Feminist art theory says "yeah, but like, what about the chicks?" (Feminist art theory is great, really interesting, but that's basically it in one sentence)

LGBT theory is basically lesbian feminism and says "yeah, but like, what about the gays?"

And queer theory is interesting because it says, queer is something transgressive, doesn't need to be gay. Queer theory is interesting because as soon as something becomes accepted by the ideology of its age it is no longer Queer and is always changing its definitions. So Queer means different.

"From when I was a little boy, I always knew I was different"

― I know, right?, Saturday, 28 April 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

Insert "powerful tool" joke, if you must.

I bought a drill today! I just want to fit in ;_;

― Mark C, Saturday, 28 April 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, I should still be in NYC this summer for to learn Greek.

Queer theory seems to start with this theory of difference, which I disagree with, and top it off with a smug insistence of "transgression". I mean, I also come from an "avant-garde", "experimental" art background, and it's the same annoying tendency they have -- the insistence that the work is transgressive, that there is a "normal" sphere of work that is not transgressive, and that there is something privileged about such transgression, rather than it being a byproduct of complexity and statistics.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 28 April 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

I thought you knew Greek already!

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 April 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

No, my self-study didn't get me as far as I wanted to go. I've been learning Latin lately.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 28 April 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

Christ, I haven't touched an irregular Latin verb since high-school -- I was really fucking good at it too, could very nearly sight-translate Horace, but my skills have atrophied and there's really no way to be a Latin hobbyist, is there?

But anyway. Hi dere, I is a drunk.

― elmo argonaut, Sunday, 29 April 2007 06:43 (eighteen years ago)

ULTIMATE CELEB CRUSH:

MIKE PATTON
OR MAYBE
XTIAN BALE

so hard to choooose

― elmo argonaut, Sunday, 29 April 2007 06:47 (eighteen years ago)

OMG MIKE PATTON ILY SO MUCH

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 07:49 (eighteen years ago)

My hot, hot, sweet ambiguous bartender was not at the bar tonight. I was sad, so I played some Tatu and Rage Against the Machine and drank tequila. I ordered my añejo as "pendejo" and thereby comforted myself.

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 07:50 (eighteen years ago)

I have told you about my bartender crush, right?

Searching through thread says apparently not. He looks like Jake Gyllenhaal, he's super fucking sweet, probably straight, but definitely ambiguous. I love him.

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 07:52 (eighteen years ago)

there's really no way to be a Latin hobbyist, is there?

I have friends who are. That's why Loeb Classics were invented, after all. But they certainly teach it so that you won't remember it...

― Casuistry, Sunday, 29 April 2007 08:38 (eighteen years ago)

And there was another guy in argyle at the coffee shop today working on math homework. And I couldn't tell exactly what sort of math it was supposed to be. And he was very cute. But I think argyle has become too popular maybe.

― Casuistry, Sunday, 29 April 2007 08:40 (eighteen years ago)

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e188/Xzombie_sweetheartX/mikepatton.jpg
http://www.tomajazz.com/perfiles/merino/14MikePatton.jpg
http://www.rockstar.it/public/mike_patton2.jpg

mike patton is dreeeeamy omg *dies*

― elmo argonaut, Sunday, 29 April 2007 08:41 (eighteen years ago)

Only because he kinda looks like Jesse in that last pic, if you squint.

― Casuistry, Sunday, 29 April 2007 08:46 (eighteen years ago)

WIRED: gingham
TIRED: houndstooth
EXPIRED: argyle

― elmo argonaut, Sunday, 29 April 2007 08:50 (eighteen years ago)

i totally just made that up, but i will nonetheless stand by it

― elmo argonaut, Sunday, 29 April 2007 08:51 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of people who look like me, a friend sent me this picture and it took me a couple of takes before I realized it was not me. NSFW, so let me know if you can't see it since I marked it as private.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/476741674_8f964027a6.jpg?v=0

I thought to myself, wow, when was I wearing a kilt??

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

And when did you get an extravagant piercing? Or, wait, is that part of the wooden box?

― Casuistry, Sunday, 29 April 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

I think it is a weight.

― Jesse, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

The weighting is the hardest part.

― Casuistry, Sunday, 29 April 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

I ran into the monorchid last night; AWKWARD

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 30 April 2007 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

I have a gay friend here in town who is a linguist type. Last I saw him he was sitting at his boyfriend's bar doing Thai calligraphy. You should meet him.

heh Jesse, I wanna see that bartender.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

"So... still no prosthesis?"

― Casuistry, Monday, 30 April 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

he's actually kinda cute, so I can't blame myself, really, but he's not cute enough

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

Not cute enough to make up for the lack of testicle?

― Casuistry, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

yes exactly. well, lack of testicle and a host of other intimate offenses

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

i mean, what good is being cute if you won't kiss?

balls to ye, repressed dude.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

pun slightly intended

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

I knew it wasn't about the testicle.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 30 April 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah a missing testicle is no big whoop. But refusing to kiss.

Which reminds me that it's very nice when a guy claims he's a great kisser and turns out... he kinda is!

― Casuistry, Monday, 30 April 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

the first guy i ever kissed said i was the best kisser he'd ever been with!

― impudent harlot, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)

(i should ask the guy i kissed last night for a second opinion on the matter HI-YOOOOO)

― impudent harlot, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/greys_anatomy/images/sandra-oh-3.jpg http://www.rockingham.k12.va.us/sound_sorting/initial_blends/sn/images/snap.jpg

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 00:24 (eighteen years ago)

Stevie's Big Gay Book Of Rebuses.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 00:31 (eighteen years ago)

Wow.

Why "heh" about my bartender, Mr. Dr. Morbius?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 01:01 (eighteen years ago)

Cuz if it's Jake Gyllenhaal he's taken.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 01:04 (eighteen years ago)

(alas)

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 01:04 (eighteen years ago)

He's like a regular-guy sort of JG. Like the casual-wear, everyday sort.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 01:08 (eighteen years ago)

Not a poor man's version, just a more wear-around-the-house kind.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 01:09 (eighteen years ago)

JG likes Starbucks and finds Reese Witherspoon = "regular guy."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 01:25 (eighteen years ago)

I mean to say that he looks like a more casual JG. No product in his hair, easy-going style, sneakers and jeans.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 02:22 (eighteen years ago)

It was just kind of a grunt/moan, Jesse.

being a great kisser > having a great "kisser"?

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

He makes me grunt and moan too.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

do most of you younger ILX queers care anything for queer countercultures? Feel they are a thing of the past? Are you content with embracing queer images and causes in the aboveground media and communities, for integration's sake?

I kinda don't really care. I've got major major problems with the smugness of trangression (not just in queer theory; it's also part and parcel of my alienation from all manner of alt.culture) I don't question their interestingness or validity or whatever, but they've never felt like they were ever mine and it would be unbearably pretentious of me to pretend otherwise. I mean, I come from an upper-middle-class family from the heart of darkest suburbia and however unlike I am to most people from that context (and the whole gay thing doesn't even account for about 30% of that unlikeness), it still feels a lot more like my context than the queer counterculture context.

I've also gone on record to say that I so fucking hate the word "queer" but whatever.

― Michael Daddino, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

That was my first post on ILx since the P&J Ottacular back in early February, but the HTML didn't work so I hate you all now. Please ask to be my myspace friend so I can reject you.

― Michael Daddino, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

I generally prefer homo, but was playing to (my perception of) the room.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

I prefer M2M.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

I like "homo" better than "queer." I don't remember anybody ever using the word "queer" when I was kid. When other kids wanted to make fun of my homosexualishness, they used "gay" or "homo," never EVER "queer." So it has no deepseated personal resonance to me at all and hence it's not something I need to reclaim for myself. It's always sounded very antique to me, very Tennessee Williams. Plus I've got other issues with it but I'm not going to get into that.

Actually I don't use "homo" either. I use gay primarily because I'm lazy. I don't want to have to think very hard about the terms I use.

― Michael Daddino, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

I insist my friends use "poof."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

cross-posted from WDYLL, because I am a glowstick:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/ephender/475247560_64f7171474.jpg

― Eric H., Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

Oh wait, this thread stopped being about pics since we got gay friends?

― Eric H., Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

Just for a bit! Nevertheless, you are a slammin' glowstick, my friend.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

I can see the MDMA in your tummy!

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

i can't wait until my bellyfat all goes away and I can post my abs like a camwhore

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

yes, let's all clone it OUT!

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

Whatever, I'm so fat.

― Eric H., Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think I could ever become a clone, as I own no A&F clothing. Besides, I'd rather be brawny than call myself a "bear" as an excuse to be fat.

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

Oh wait, this thread stopped being about pics since we got gay friends?

NO!!! These threads will always be open to pictures!!

(see:

I REQUIRE PIXURSZ!!

-- Stevie D, Friday, April 27, 2007 4:20 PM (4 days ago)

)

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

I'll be due for another when I take my next good photo... sometime in late '08.

― Eric H., Tuesday, 1 May 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

I'm totally down with pix of posters, I just find pix of random "OMG HOTTT" guys to be soul-crushingly boring. But I'm not in charge here, so.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 01:14 (eighteen years ago)

am i the only poster her with a current long term bf? i'm not showing off (at any rate a lot of you don't seem to want one) it just seems unusual.

― jed_, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 01:22 (eighteen years ago)

my last relationship went 2.5 yrs

― impudent harlot, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 01:30 (eighteen years ago)

now i am sitting on ILX eating cheese crackers straight out the box

(tbh i did this a lot when i had a bf too)

― impudent harlot, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 01:32 (eighteen years ago)

Can you post that pic of you and bf again? You guys looked adorable.

I do not have a bf. Portland, for all its charms, seems to be too small a city for me to meet someone interesting and interested.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 01:37 (eighteen years ago)

happy to! Portland must be around as big as Glasgow?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/colinohara/Photo60.jpg] http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/colinohara/Photo60.jpg

― jed_, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 02:06 (eighteen years ago)

oops

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/colinohara/Photo10.jpg

― jed_, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 02:07 (eighteen years ago)

No bf, also. Combination of crippling shyness and no one knowing I'm gay is not good for love life.

Most of my posts have been about how anti-social I am. I'll post happier stuff, I promise.

― Ivan, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 02:07 (eighteen years ago)

jed, you were the one who had a pic of yrself dressed as dean stockwell in blue velvet on a past wdyll thread yeah? cuz that was awesome

― impudent harlot, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 02:09 (eighteen years ago)

:-)

candy colored clown:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/colinohara/58206629_05e51b13b9.jpg

― jed_, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 02:12 (eighteen years ago)

OMG that's awesome.

Portland metro = 1.5 million, city = 500k+. I don't know how that compares to Glasgow but obviously there are other factors involved (functional ones, say) that might or might not make a difference.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 02:35 (eighteen years ago)

http://home.nyu.edu/~jg1058/papercut.jpg

this was on sunday, since which i have gotten a haircut/shave (and am the better for it)

― impudent harlot, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 02:55 (eighteen years ago)

er

http://homepages.nyu.edu/~jg1058/papercut.jpg

― impudent harlot, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 02:56 (eighteen years ago)

oh bloody hell (don't try html after drinking beerz, kids):

http://homepages.nyu.edu/~jg1058/papercut.JPG

― impudent harlot, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 02:58 (eighteen years ago)

guys i went back home to where i'm from over the weekend and an Old Friend who has hinted "jokingly" in the past that he could, in theory, play for the other team and may, according to unsubstantiated rumor, be like 70/30 on the kinsey scale kept being weird and intense and sexually charged w/ me, and i had no idea how to handle it! hetero fag breakdown, i only fuck people i don't know, m0rm0n repression lol, etc. i really like him too. argh what is wrong with me.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/struggin/boy.png

x-post hawt

― strgn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:00 (eighteen years ago)

I just went gay bar hopping in Providence with my only Gay Friends In Town, who are a couple. They picked up 2 guys and brought them home. I brought home zero. Whatever, I was indifferent with it except for the look of pity I got from my friends. WTF. :(

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 05:25 (eighteen years ago)

Also, ashamed to even say how long it has been since I was in anything resembling a relationship. Gah. PITY, PARTY OF ONE.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 05:27 (eighteen years ago)

"maybe next time?"

― river wolf, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 05:27 (eighteen years ago)

Also, ashamed to even say how long it has been since I was in anything resembling a relationship. Gah. PITY, PARTY OF ONE.

-- elmo argonaut, Tuesday, May 1, 2007 10:27 PM (17 seconds ago)

i will own you on that.

what's up, gays!

― river wolf, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 05:28 (eighteen years ago)

Elmo, your friends are selfish (and didn't invite you?).

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 05:33 (eighteen years ago)

ok, biggest group...

?

― strgn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 05:41 (eighteen years ago)

three

― strgn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 05:41 (eighteen years ago)

You know, they are kinda selfish! I'd be ok with sleeping with my friends if it meant a 5-way free-for-all. I think 4 is my personal best to date. Haha, "fourgy."

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 06:00 (eighteen years ago)

four on the flourgy?

― remy bean, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 06:04 (eighteen years ago)

You "think" four is your best?

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 06:06 (eighteen years ago)

haha, yes, I think so.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 06:08 (eighteen years ago)

Someday I want to hear that story.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 06:12 (eighteen years ago)

let's say there are gaps in my recollection. LOL college.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 06:14 (eighteen years ago)

I wish I did (was doing) that in college.

― Stevie D, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 06:14 (eighteen years ago)

why aren't you getting laid right now?? one of us should be, right?

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 06:16 (eighteen years ago)

Because I have a hard time finding guys I'm into that are gay. Any suggestions?

― Stevie D, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 06:23 (eighteen years ago)

It only gets worse.

(only sort of a joke)

Autonomy/singlehood has its merits, you know.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

For instance, you just feel silly when you forget your own birthday, but if your bf forgets it, you feel grumpy all day. And who needs that? So I recommend being single on your birthday.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

I don't understand how people forget their partners' birthdays and anniversaries. Even if you're not good at memorization, surely on the run-up to the date, it gets talked about an awful lot, as in "Hey, what should we do for our anniversary?" or "Oh God, I can't believe I'm turning 30 next week."

― jaymc, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

My ex-brother-in-law forgot his anniversary. Right after a trial separation from my sister. HAHA THE STR8s!

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

Now, I hate to get all jaymc.xls on your ass, because you know I don't play like that, but... maybe you aren't the best person to know what people are likely to forget or remember?

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

maybe true but no one forgets their own birthday, c'mon P1uma.

― jed_, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:28 (eighteen years ago)

Oh give it time.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:42 (eighteen years ago)

What I can't understand is how a partner would LET their S.O. forget. Which is pretty much John's point amounted to.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

I am not in an LTR. I haven't been since 2001! And not cuz I wasn't wanting one, and not because I wasn't willing to settle for a fixer-upper! No, it just seems that I am invisible on the dating radar.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:47 (eighteen years ago)

I spent a good deal of time whining about this on Chilx some time ago, but really, how is it possible that I've only had the opportunity to have 2 dates in the past 6 years? (Well, 2 plus one that was so disasterous that I have stricken it from the record--he was beyond fixer-upper and I knew it, but I was too weak or tired or something to say "no" to him--seriously bad.) You know what I think? I think a big reason for this is that I have, like, no gay friends in this town.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:50 (eighteen years ago)

In yesterday's enormous immigration march I looked back and there were a bunch of rainbow and rainbow-stars-and-stripes behind me, and a group carrying a "Gay and Lesbian Immigrants" banner. I got all beside myself.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:51 (eighteen years ago)

i seriously doubt that's a gay thing, jesse ; i'm notionally straight and i'm working on – minus a 6 week disaster last autumn – the exact, identical down-to-6-year schedule as you.

― 冷明, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:52 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I don't want to believe you, because if I stop believing that then I will start believing my bitchy co-worker who once told me that I was not ugly, but that my personality kept people from wanting to be with me.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:56 (eighteen years ago)

This was an unsolicited opinion from this bitch, by the way.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:57 (eighteen years ago)

My otter's ex, who is potentially going to be my THIRD gay friend in town, is adamant that [my, one's] lack of bf is completely related to not knowing gay friends in town.

Although Jesse, you seem to meet [cough] enough gay men, AND you're also absurdly boyfriendable, so I'm not really sure what's going on there.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:58 (eighteen years ago)

The thing is I "meat" these men in circumstances that are not really conducive to later dating. I go to gay bars to either get laid, run my mouth, or get drunk, and in reality, probably all three at once. I have never really made a friend at a gay bar.

That's sweet though. I'm not sure what "absurdly boyfriendable" means, but it made me feel good!

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:03 (eighteen years ago)

I've been single for a few years. In Miami.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:05 (eighteen years ago)

It means you're cute, fun, smart, relatively sane, mildly neurotic, and the sort of "good person" who is relaxed about it. That is basically what I mean by that.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:07 (eighteen years ago)

I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND, PLEASE TELL ME MORE

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:12 (eighteen years ago)

j/k

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:13 (eighteen years ago)

jesse k**hr

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:13 (eighteen years ago)

"Enough about me, what do you think about my eyes?"

― Casuistry, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:15 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to print out what you said and use it as a blurb on an online dating profile.

― Jesse, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:15 (eighteen years ago)

Send me link!

― Casuistry, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:19 (eighteen years ago)

Otter and Otter's ex wrote long personal ads for each other and posted them to craigslist. Now Otter has a new bf, but his ex (who does not want a bf anyways) didn't even get a good fuckbud out of it. Or even a fuck. Just a few sad dates. Oh well. Still it was adorable (and ex wrote a really good ad!).

― Casuistry, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:21 (eighteen years ago)

My otter's ex, who is potentially going to be my THIRD gay friend in town, is adamant that [my, one's] lack of bf is completely related to not knowing gay friends in town

of everyone i've been er "intimate" with only one of them was someone i met through another gay friend (and that ended up being a one-night stand anyway)

― impudent harlot, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, all my gay friends in town are taken, ex-dates that couldn't go further down that path, etc.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

Who's gay in NYC that we can all be friends and introduce cuet boyz to each other?

― Stevie D, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

It is, his theory goes, not so much the friends, but the friends of friends. If we would all just get to know more interesting gay people, we'd be able to be matchmakers for our friends.

I dunno, I'm not sure I'm buying it.

(Also, Steve, no one has any gay friends in town, remember?)

― Casuistry, Thursday, 3 May 2007 23:12 (eighteen years ago)

Okay.

I went out again to gay bar with aforementioned coupled gay friends in town.

They picked up another guy. I did not.

No fair.

I will pout about it now.

― elmo argonaut, Saturday, 5 May 2007 07:35 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sorry, that sucks.

My bartender is straight. I got confirmation from him that people tell him he looks like Jake G. all the time. Oh well.

― Jesse, Saturday, 5 May 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

may have date this wkend

― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 5 May 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

Well remember, Elmo, there are two of them, which doubles their chances even before you factor in threesome fun.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 5 May 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

I am gay in New York City but I feel any cocatenation of gay NYC Ilxors will probably involve awkward conversation and shifty eyes, not the introduction of cute (or cuet) (or suet) (or even Le Creuset) boys to one another.

― Michael Daddino, Saturday, 5 May 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

I have my first gay friend in town!

― Ivan, Saturday, 5 May 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

Is it your neighbor?

― Jesse, Saturday, 5 May 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Yes it is. We've been talking bunches lately, and it's been really nice. Also some light flirting goin' on.

― Ivan, Monday, 7 May 2007 02:46 (eighteen years ago)

Is he fuckable? Is he just an acquaintance or does this have potential to turn into something?

― Stevie D, Monday, 7 May 2007 02:50 (eighteen years ago)

Totally fuckable. Most of the flirting is coming from him, actually. I wouldn't mind it turning into something, but there's the whole "we're neighbors" thing in the back of my mind.

― Ivan, Monday, 7 May 2007 03:09 (eighteen years ago)

What kind of flirting? I wonder how I would feel about fucking my neighbor...

What's your main concern?

― Jesse, Monday, 7 May 2007 03:48 (eighteen years ago)

He's pretty touchy-feely, which I don't mind at all. He constantly tells me how cute I am (and I still haven't told him how cute he is back, the fool I am). Maybe it's not flirting at all and he's just being a nice guy. Since he's my first gay friend, I'm not sure how the dynamics of those friendships work.

And that's my main concern. It's been really great just talking with him all friendly like. What if something did happen romantically/physically/whatever and then it ended and we wouldn't be able to go back to being friends?

My roommates are rooting for us.

― Ivan, Monday, 7 May 2007 03:55 (eighteen years ago)

What if something did happen romantically/physically/whatever and then it ended and we wouldn't be able to go back to being friends?

Uh, the rule about this sort of thing only applies if you've been friends for years.

― Casuistry, Monday, 7 May 2007 04:15 (eighteen years ago)

Also I strongly recommend making a fool of yourself and making moderately rash decisions that lead to adventures which may or may not have been the best thing to do but give you the experience so that next time you'll be better informed rather than spending all your life preventing yourself from doing something foolish. Basically.

― Casuistry, Monday, 7 May 2007 04:18 (eighteen years ago)

I was going to say something about NOW being the time to make mistakes, when you're young.

(also, this is an xpost to what Chris said about being friends for years, etc)
True. But being that it's his *first* gay friend, I can see how this is important.

And

― Jesse, Monday, 7 May 2007 04:25 (eighteen years ago)

Oops. "And" nothing.

― Jesse, Monday, 7 May 2007 05:12 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, so I learned this weekend that a female acquaintance of mine actually hates me because I sonned her in a cute bi-boy crush beef.

Incidentally, I hung out with said bi boy on Drinko de Mayo after 6 margaritas and could barely hold my cards to play rummy, but at least I got to see his pants falling off his ass, eventually crashed on the sofa.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 7 May 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

His ass or you?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 May 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

I wouldn't mind having his ass crash on me, ha. But no, it was boozy me crashing on his sofa.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 7 May 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

What are the possibilities that you'll see his bare ass again?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 May 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

Slim, honestly. He's a nice repressed bi-curious Catholic boy who giggles nervously at gay innuendo. He may well be too much effort.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 7 May 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

elmo, don't even think about that level of effort.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 May 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, you're probably right Morbs, but you forget the fact that I am a fool and cute bi-curious boys are like kryptonite on my best intentions.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 7 May 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

I sympathize, Elmo – most of my guy friends have been deluded by bi-curiosity (and thus have deluded me).

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 7 May 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

I just need a way to get him into a compromising situation. One that does not involve putting ghb into his beer would good.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 7 May 2007 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

would be good^

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 7 May 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

I SOLD MY LEATHER PANTS!!

-- Jesse, Tuesday, May 8, 2007 4:28 PM (5 minutes ago)

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

RIP Jesse's Leather Daddy Phase.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

you mean his phase for leather daddies?

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

Today I got an invitation from my very first bf-type-person (we dated for about 2 weeks in the fall of 93) to go to his "senior voice recital" (I guess he has been going to some sort of voice school? or something?). It's in Brooklyn in maybe two weeks (so I won't be going). I haven't spoken or heard from him in, oh, nearly ten years, and with very little contact at all since, mm, 94 or 95ish.

So my question is, what's that about?

I guess it's time to googlestalk him a smidge.

Of course if he's googlestalked me here, then: Hi. What's that about?

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

That's sort of weird.

I wish I could find my first sorta-almost-boyfriend, but googlestalking is impossible--he has ZERO web presence. I wonder if he's dead. I remember hearing something about cancer, but that was back when I was stoned all the time, so I don't remember if that really was something I heard or if I imagined it, or a little of both.

I never wore those leather pants. I bought them back when I had a...sugar daddy of sorts to buy me things and he bought me those. They were distressed leather, like bomber-jacket material, so I think that gives me more cred than shiny black leather.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

You think the leather was distressed, you should have seen the cow!

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)

Wokka wokka.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

This thread title somehow depresses me more than the last one.

― Abbott, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 22:41 (eighteen years ago)

This is why I don't get to be cruise director.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 22:42 (eighteen years ago)

How about "Friends of Dorothy"?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

I guess here is the best place to tell you that I am going to do some waxing of weird body hairs. I have nothing against chest hair, but why is it only growing on the left side??

― Jesse, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 22:59 (eighteen years ago)

...

I can't find my wax.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 23:06 (eighteen years ago)

Eventually it will probably even out.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 23:34 (eighteen years ago)

It won't! It's been getting worse for 10 years.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 03:42 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe sleep on the other side of the bed?

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 03:43 (eighteen years ago)

On the topic of "manscaping", I've decided to trim my pubes again after months of no grooming. It's quite wild.

― Ivan, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 03:43 (eighteen years ago)

switch hands masturbating.

― remy bean, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 03:43 (eighteen years ago)

The warm weather has made the boys friendly! At the beach a guy flirted with me and we talked for a while. His name was Dan. Then on the walk from the bus to Courtney's house a guy and I did some winking and he put the phone aside to say hi. My ego is bloated. He walked backward for a few steps! Very flattering, even though he had detached sideburns.

-- Jesse, Tuesday, May 8, 2007 10:40 PM (1 minute ago)

I said this over in Chicago, but I wanted to tell you too. Nice boost!

xpost--

I hadn't trimmed for a while and did the other day. What a difference. I think the confidence showed through, causing flirting with me.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 03:47 (eighteen years ago)

what are detached sideburns?

― Eric H., Wednesday, 9 May 2007 04:16 (eighteen years ago)

How about "Friends of Dorothy"?

NO

― Stevie D, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 04:17 (eighteen years ago)

xpost is it bald head with sideburns?

― Stevie D, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 04:17 (eighteen years ago)

Some guys prefer wild pubes.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 04:39 (eighteen years ago)

Wild pubes couldn't drag me away
Wild, wild pubes, we'll ride them some day

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 04:42 (eighteen years ago)

TS: Detached pubes vs. Detached Sideburns.

He had a buzz cut, and at the sideburns there was a space beginning at the upper ear, and the sideburns resumed (fuller than the head of hair) about at lobe-level.

I really don't like my pubes to be wild, and I prefer guys with tamer pubes.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 04:58 (eighteen years ago)

Pubes on scrote are like a numbing agent. Bare skin gets the most sensation.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 05:00 (eighteen years ago)

best way to remove?

― Stevie D, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 05:11 (eighteen years ago)

Fire.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 05:14 (eighteen years ago)

No, it's pretty easy to shave off ball pubes. But ball scruff and ball itch and ball ingrown hairs are no fun.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 05:15 (eighteen years ago)

They are only a problem after the first big shave. After that they don't irritate for whatever reason.

NOTE: DO NOT WAX BELOW A CERTAIN AREA. I tried some scrote/taint waxing many years ago and it was very, very bad. Once you've applied the wax there is no going back, and I applied it everywhere. I had to take breaks to drink some liquid courage.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 05:31 (eighteen years ago)

You could have melted the wax, surely?

I dunno, I have never used wax. I gave up that sort of thing early on.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 05:42 (eighteen years ago)

Melted it with what? It's not like paraffin; it tuns into a very solid plastic.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 10:23 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, maybe yr sugar daddy should've sprung to have the chest hair evened out?

I haven't spoken or heard from him in, oh, nearly ten years, and with very little contact at all since, mm, 94 or 95ish.
So my question is, what's that about?

Nostalgia, probably? I initiated contact w/ my second sort-of boyfriend in SF two years ago after a gap of about 5 years. He's a big fan of Dubya and has written a novel about America's biblical role in bringing about the End Times, so it probably was not a good idea.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

Guess he took all that Sodom talk seriously.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

wdyll shitfaced on margaritas??

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/208/489426007_d9c3828f1d.jpg

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

the tiger makes you look esp powerful.

wdyll shitfaced on juleps holding yr losing bets?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/201/485989386_b20b74e274.jpg?v=0

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

The first guy I was ever sexually involved with e-mailed me last week. All it said was "i would like to stay in touch with you." We were pretty close for a long time (probably most intensely about 10 years ago) but sort of lost contact once he dropped out of school and became a nomad pothead. I think he's in an open marriage in Olympia or something now.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

jaymc, I'd guess that email is code for "I've been thinking about you when I jerk off lately"

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

I thought all marriages on Oly were open? By town statute or something.

Morbs, that pic looks more like you than any other pic I've seen, and you usually look fairly like you in yr pix.

I got a haircut today. WDYLL with short hair? Find out tonight!

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

Also I think Elmo proves that t-shirts > tattoos.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

I have a soul patch for the first time ever.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

it's an Obey Propaganda t-shirt and all these punk dudes at the bar were asking "OMG IS THAT A PROPAGHANDI TSHIRT??" Um, no. *drinks tequila*

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

Since I won't be able to buy it ever, I post shirt I want here:

http://joycart6.net/tailgate/data/img/1276_1_l.jpg
http://joycart6.net/tailgate/data/img/1276_3_l.jpg
http://joycart6.net/tailgate/data/img/1276_4_l.jpg

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

Also hilarious: The frontman for the alleged oi-punk band, after some joker in the audience took his glasses and was wearing them, started bitching "DUDE THOSE ARE $500 GLASSES. SERIOUSLY, GIVE THEM BACK." soooo punk.

Anyway, this was all just prior to hanging out with aforementioned cuet bi-curious boy.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

xpost reminds me of:

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/5/54/GreatGalleryedit.jpg

http://a813.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/36/l_526db871f0f339e9a59ad199bed79a7c.jpg

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, what are you talking about, don't you generally have a soul patch?

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

(although some would argue that he is not cute. he has been called 'potato-faced' by several of my friends. but i like that he looks kinda dumb and jockish but is in reality a grad-level math student @ br0wn.)

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

Who is dude next to Morbius in that photo?

― jaymc, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

I don't usually have JUST a soul patch, but rather a soul patch in conjunction with a goatee.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

jaymc, that is noiseboarder vic aka 'sleep.' also a certifiable studmuffin.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah, he's cute. Isn't he like 8 feet tall?

― jaymc, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

his afro is hueg

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

Vic is like 6'4" at least, I'm 6'2" and he makes me feel kinda short

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

btw, here is link to pic of cute math dude:

http://tinyurl.com/377227

yaaaaaaooww

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

Here's a shirt I really want but is out of stock in my size:

(from threadless)

http://www.threadless.com/product/719/The_Bad_Seed#zoom

― remy bean, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

err shirt is linked here.

― remy bean, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

Why on earth is Morbius drinking Miller High Life??? BAD FAG, BAD FAG!

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

elmo, Math Guy looks like Mark Ruffalo!

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

Vic is 6'5" plus afro

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

remy, that's the first decent threadless shirt i've seen in a long time

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

I drink High Life sometimes. As well as PBR and Old Style. Hell, I've been known to drink Schlitz and Hamms (the beer refreshing) too!

― Jesse, Thursday, 10 May 2007 02:56 (eighteen years ago)

I've got a sophisti-palate, alas.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 10 May 2007 13:06 (eighteen years ago)

cute math dude looks like a '70s TV detective getting bad news.

Alfred, when I've had 5 or 6 mint juleps, a good beer wd be a waste. High Life is $3. I usually drink Yuengling drafts or Corona.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 10 May 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

Don't get me wrong, I lurv great beer, but I will drink the working man's beers too when budget/circumstances dictate.

― Jesse, Thursday, 10 May 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

Fascinating factoid: There is no Yuengling in Chicago.

― Jesse, Thursday, 10 May 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

crosspost from oral sex thread.

What's LEFT?

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

Herdin' sheep?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

I am not a good shepherd.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 10 May 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

I should hope not, Morbius, The Good Shepherd was such a dreadfully boring movie.

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 10 May 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

If I knew a lot of older gay men with throat cancer I'd be worried maybe.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 10 May 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

Wow, I almost missed Morbs playing WDYLL upthread, it not being embedded and all.

― Eric H., Thursday, 10 May 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

Eh, I'll start embedding when you restart blogging.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 10 May 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

I'll restart blogging when ... well, let's say I can think of a few things I don't see happening soon.

― Eric H., Thursday, 10 May 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

but you changed your banner pic, teeze!

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 10 May 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

Eric, explain me "when canses were classeled".

― jed_, Thursday, 10 May 2007 23:52 (eighteen years ago)

fascinating factoid: there is no Yuengling away from the east coast :-( how do you guys survive?

― Stevie D, Friday, 11 May 2007 01:56 (eighteen years ago)

You wanna know what's weirder? We have no fireflies out here.

― Casuistry, Friday, 11 May 2007 02:06 (eighteen years ago)

wtf??

― Stevie D, Friday, 11 May 2007 03:23 (eighteen years ago)

no yuengling here either

― gbx, Friday, 11 May 2007 03:28 (eighteen years ago)

It's a spoonerism of when classes were canceled. Basically, it's an in-joke directed at one of the three people who probably continue to check it.

― Eric H., Friday, 11 May 2007 03:41 (eighteen years ago)

I still think fireflies > Yuengling.

― Casuistry, Friday, 11 May 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

I've never tried to drink a firefly, so I can't address this point.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 11 May 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

jesus, do you guys lack ladybugs and popsicles, too?

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 11 May 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

remind me what they only have in San Francisco so I can exploit every minute of my imminent trip. Beside the Eagle beer blast with the tamale lady.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 11 May 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

On the plus side, we have unicorns.

― Casuistry, Friday, 11 May 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

we all just told you it was a horse, chris. it was actually just a horse with a dildo strapped to his head :(

― remy bean, Friday, 11 May 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

(horse 1 = unicorn)

― remy bean, Friday, 11 May 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

I'm just saying it was fun to ride that pony into the sunset.

― Casuistry, Friday, 11 May 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway this was on WDYLL but Stevie likes pix on this thread so here I am with haircut and kumquat:

http://web.pdx.edu/~cp/ilx/kumquat.jpg

― Casuistry, Friday, 11 May 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

Also: Gay game night tonight! Apparently we've been threatened with Pictionary, which I guess will do.

― Casuistry, Friday, 11 May 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

CUET

― Drew Daniel, Friday, 11 May 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

lol cumquat

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 11 May 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

yums.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 11 May 2007 18:43 (eighteen years ago)

yumquat?

― Stevie D, Friday, 11 May 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

Elmo knows what I'm talking about.

Also, see, Morbs, I did too need a haircut!

― Casuistry, Friday, 11 May 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, I admitted so! very sleek.

monoquat?

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 11 May 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

I had multiple quats. Multiple kums, if you will.

― Casuistry, Friday, 11 May 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

Eric, i continue to check it

I will write about Inland Empire
I will write about Inland Empire
I will write about Inland Empire
I will write about Inland Empire

O RLY?

― jed_, Friday, 11 May 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

Haha. I just deleted that post last night. (And am in the process of getting rid of all those placeholder ones where I just found a Youtube clip and posted it -- especially since most of those clips have been removed.)

I'm in the middle of trying to go from b2evolution to Wordpress, because I am a Mac person and like the user-friendliness of the latter. When that happens, I'm sure I'll have something resembling a newfound interest in updating/writing et al.

― Eric H., Friday, 11 May 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

^upcoming Bart Simpson chalkboard opening^

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 11 May 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

haha

good news Eric.

― jed_, Friday, 11 May 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

I'd no idea you had a blog, Eric. Send me your address. We'll trade. Like girlfriends!

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 12 May 2007 00:18 (eighteen years ago)

I'd no idea you had a blog, Alfred. Post your address.

― jed_, Saturday, 12 May 2007 00:46 (eighteen years ago)

agrandillusion.com

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 12 May 2007 01:21 (eighteen years ago)

I is cansesclasseled.com

― Eric H., Saturday, 12 May 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

with noizerboard progenitor JW and pal PJ McG33 (HIGHSCHOOL BROS 4EVA) I attended a gay birthday party tonight with cuet math dude, then later moved on to loft dance party. good times & hip hop classics. math dude was dripping wet in a sweaty a-shirt and i had a real hard time keeping my hands off him. i got some dancing w/ him and hugs -- kissed him on the neck and slapped him in the face as i left. wtfffff need to mack it omggg

also, year-long long-distance backburner crush comes to visit june 1. somebody better institutionalize me cuz i am boy crazy right now

― elmo argonaut, Sunday, 13 May 2007 07:11 (eighteen years ago)

Gay guys at all gay guy party talking about how icky vaginas are for ten minutes: dud or dud?

― Casuistry, Sunday, 13 May 2007 07:20 (eighteen years ago)

That sounds obnoxious.

― Jesse, Sunday, 13 May 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sure there's not a whole lot to talk about... Right?

― I know, right?, Sunday, 13 May 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

I will never have a blog, or discuss the rumors I've heard about vaginas.

― Dr Morbius, Sunday, 13 May 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

I *so* want to give a presentation on behalf of the Vagina Marketing Board right now but out of respect for my guest status on this thread I won't.

― Mark C, Sunday, 13 May 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think you have to! I'm entirely pro-vagina, they just don't inspire me to, well, anything. But I can't imagine getting squicked out by them, and actually I think guys who do are kinda... dingbats. It's just a body part, get over it.

― Casuistry, Monday, 14 May 2007 01:17 (eighteen years ago)

Exactly!

― I know, right?, Monday, 14 May 2007 01:37 (eighteen years ago)

It's equally annoying when some straight guys talk about how the penis and/or balls are weird or gross and vaginas are like magical. It's a way of asserting your sexuality by negating the Other.

The Latinos at my work are all into this, saying that women are the most beautiful things God ever made and men are made to appreciate them, blah, blah, blah. One guy told me once that women are to be beautiful beings and a man is actually meant to be ugly. Another guy explained this further, saying that in Mexico there is a saying that a man is to be "feo, fuerte, y formal," "ugly, strong, and formal, or serious."

― Jesse, Monday, 14 May 2007 05:56 (eighteen years ago)

I think in an objective sense there are more things about a vagina that fit into common categories of "grossness" - the thing about male parts is that there's nothing (much) hidden, what you see is what you get, they're fully visible, firm (often) and dry (hopefully).

Also, to hate penises when owning one seems like a pretty unfortunate state.

― Mark C, Monday, 14 May 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

If thtis this vagina chatter goes on any longer I may visit a strip club.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 14 May 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

srch vintage Richard Pryor on "vagina chatter"

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 14 May 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

apologies for the intensely hormonal odor of my last post, i had just seen math dude and he gives me fever wicked bad. but srsly, i will tag that boy if it kills me.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 14 May 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

Elmo, you are hot and goddamn people like you – you will tag that four-pointer !

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 14 May 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

"four-pointer"? this term is new to me.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 14 May 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

http://residents.bowhunting.net/tracker/ct2001c.jpg

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 14 May 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, another animal metaphor. Of course.

― Casuistry, Monday, 14 May 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

haha 8080 young buck

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 14 May 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

Vagina Chatter summons up alot of visuals, none that picturesque. Have combined it with Muppets.

― o-ess, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 11:59 (eighteen years ago)

greedy bisexual pops up and says HELLOOOO! (please don't ostracise me for wanting to fuck everyone)

― lurex, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 23:41 (eighteen years ago)

Any ILX fagz or dykes in Minneapolis, do truck on down . . . sorry to cross post with noize too

My band is going to play at a night called "Matmos and Friends" at the Walker Art Center in Minneapolis. The lineup is Matmos, So Percussion, and Walter Kitundu and the show is Saturday, May 19th.

Then . . . if your bear realness extends to living in rural Montana

Matmos and So Percussion will perform at The Loft in Whitefish, MONTANA on May 23rd at 9 pm. 21 n up, alas.

― Drew Daniel, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 23:49 (eighteen years ago)

It's equally annoying when some straight guys talk about how the penis and/or balls are weird or gross and vaginas are like magical. It's a way of asserting your sexuality by negating the Other.

both attitudes have always struck me as totally dissembling... it seems likelier that somewhere in our individual development we specialize in the cultivation of a particular beauty aesthetic (largely reinforced or supplied by our romantic/partnership preference) that is, in many cases, gender-specific. to feel strongly that man-parts are great and woman-parts are nasty (or visa versa) seems, err, really fucking immature to me.

― remy bean, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 00:03 (eighteen years ago)

can i be gay?

― andi, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 00:04 (eighteen years ago)

what i mean is: why can't we admit that all genitals are a little freaky? and that we usually like one kind over the other, but mostly because we're more invested in fixating on them as objects of desire and potential pleasure than the other?

― remy bean, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 00:06 (eighteen years ago)

ummm. honestly. tell me honestly. does it make me freaky to be attracted to. . . girls, with it, on. . . (i'm a boy (you know?))

― andi, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 00:09 (eighteen years ago)

i mean trans.. they rock my world.

― andi, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 00:19 (eighteen years ago)

If I had the time I'd totally take the train out to Whitefish to catch a Matmos show. I mean, damn.

Fun fact: One of the last times Drew played in Portland, my ex opened for him. But I had a show that night and couldn't make it.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 00:30 (eighteen years ago)

Hi guys, I wanna roll deep with Elmo in my posse every fucking weekend!

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 00:34 (eighteen years ago)

because he takes flattering photos of you?

― remy bean, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 00:41 (eighteen years ago)

Because he puts out?

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 00:54 (eighteen years ago)

I want there to be an ILX thread called "gay.com:c/d" but I don't think it would be worth proliferating amongst the gen. population, but I do think it matters as a sub-thread.

So.

Gay.com: C/D?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 04:19 (eighteen years ago)

I've gotten laid there, but not for years. I'm considering it again.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 04:20 (eighteen years ago)

Gay.com circa 2001 = not classic but reasonable
Gay.com circa 2004 = utter dud

I actually had a bunch of gay friends in town once back when I hung out on there in 2000/2001. There were a lot of boring people to wade through but there were enough interesting people to make it more or less doable. Now, though, there seems to be nothing except the smell of despair.

Honestly Manhunt seems to be better for meeting people (both for hooking up and not) than Gay.com these days.

That said, I'm totally curiosu what your screen name is.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 04:46 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know what my real screen name is, so I couldn't log in tonight. But I created a new one (nunya) and went to the Chicago chat rooms and discovered that it's entirely too heavy on the bots and ads. I watched 1 episode of The Office and when I returned I had 8 IMs advertising porn.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 05:11 (eighteen years ago)

Ads advertising porn on a hookup site are kind of admitting defeat, no?

― Mark C, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

I think Jon wants me in his posse because I was telling him Saturday that his jeans made him look "crotchy."

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

It is a pretty decent place for meeting a robot.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

also a good place to meet 65 year old dudes posing as 18 year old dudes

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

That's the whole internet for you.

In other news, my summer plans just got completely fuxored. Now to figure out plan B. Also, now to go punch walls.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

better than meeting 65 year old dudes posing as 19 year old girls

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

I haven't bn on gay.com much since my last job, where I might get a lunch "date" 2 or 3 x a year.

Caz, that sux. :p I hope it can be salvaged?

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

does it make me freaky to be attracted to tranns.? y/n.

― andi, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

i think it makes you part of a rapidly growing minority.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

I don't find most actual transsexuals that attractive, but the idea of combining a cock with a woman's body is appealing.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

cio

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

I've had no luck on gay.com. My closest catch was some 21-y-old twink who liked Spoon.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

I was at a party Saturday w/ a trans-MTF who looked very much like a 5-foot Harvey Keitel w/ a bobbed wig and pedalpushers.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

i declare that,
whateves.

i don't care if i'm freaky. i'm still a nice boy.

even though, i'm willfully celibate, anyway! hard to explain. still attracted to certain things, though.

― andi, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

do you guys have FILFS?

― 696, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

hahahahahhahahaha

― andi, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

i might excelsior that if i wasn't drunk and lazy.

― andi, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

i'm attracted to certain things, too, e.g.: colanders.

― remy bean, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

haven't (actively) used online personals since 2002 or so, no intention of starting it again anytime soon

― impudent harlot, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

i'm just coming out! i mean, i'm celibate, but, i am attracted to. . . !

― andi, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

ghosts?

― Jordan, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

yeah. i'd fuck around in dirty, twisted sheets with a ghost-girl. i was only talking about that because i was trashed yesterday. i'm trashed, now. totally, though. i'm ssorry. slaughter me. i don't mean to fuck up a gay thread. i'm gving gays a silly name here or something. i'm sloshed again. i'll fuck a hott ghost or a bitching tranny-girlboy. i'm willfully celibate, though. it doesn't matter. i'm still a virgin. i wanna fuck a little before i die one slow suicide.

― andi, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

gggghosts?

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

we deserve the fucking world.

― andi, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

i'm sorry to mess this up. my name is andy alsup. i'm a goth. i was just dying to come out. i'm a goth. i know most gays aren't. i'm 60% gay. and, 95% goth. don't count me here. i'm just a slutty noise boy.

― andi, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

do you play in a band called cowpilot?

― remy bean, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:12 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe he ran track at Northeastern, or starred as Officer Dobbs in Slugs: The Movie.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

What?

I have no idea. I'll still be in NYC for at least some of June. Grrr.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:53 (eighteen years ago)

i'm sorry if i hurt this thread.

― andi, Friday, 18 May 2007 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

No, it's just, you can't be gay every day.

― Casuistry, Friday, 18 May 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

This is the special occasion gay thread.

― Jesse, Friday, 18 May 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)

It's for when you break out the fine gay that you got on your wedding day.

― Casuistry, Friday, 18 May 2007 22:16 (eighteen years ago)

"One fine gay..."

― Michael White, Friday, 18 May 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

remember when we were all like andi? or sort of? what's happened?

― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 19 May 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

I've never been:

a. goth
b. slutty
c. noise
d. 60% gay

― Eric H., Saturday, 19 May 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

all of the above, plus, i've gotten some

― impudent harlot, Saturday, 19 May 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

i love you guys.
haha, you know, i was the one who started the "i have never had sex" thread, a while back!

― andi, Saturday, 19 May 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

Slutty virgins are the worst kind.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 19 May 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

― andi, Saturday, 19 May 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

i think i was sluttier as a virgin than as a non-virgin.

― remy bean, Saturday, 19 May 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

Slutty vegans are not all that awesome either.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 19 May 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

cauliflower ear? that's nothing...

― remy bean, Sunday, 20 May 2007 00:32 (eighteen years ago)

ok, so I don't imagine this coming as a surprise to anyone, but I don't think I'm not gonna bother with math dude. Are bi-curious guys too much effort? Yes. I should have learned this by now.

― elmo argonaut, Sunday, 20 May 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

Are gay guys too little effort? Possibly.

― Casuistry, Sunday, 20 May 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

I was referring to andi's 'enthusiasm,' pretty much

― Dr Morbius, Sunday, 20 May 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

hunt & peck(er) school of typology

― remy bean, Sunday, 20 May 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

as long as we're all friends though, right?

― andi, Sunday, 20 May 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

elmo, wise move.

i'm 60% gay

Is that by weight or volume?

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 21 May 2007 13:12 (eighteen years ago)

ok, so last night when wasted and hanging out with my previously mentioned gay friends in town (who are a couple), I decided to get naked and see what happened. well, shit happened. lots of it. stay tuned to this space in the next few days to discover if I still have... GAY FRIENDS IN TOWN.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 21 May 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

Post the pictures first.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 21 May 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

haha, well... this is not from last night and i'm not pictured, but here's a pic of them:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/133/407462901_b3bc2a8832.jpg

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 21 May 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

by the way, where the hell is stevie d?? i feel like we haven't heard from him since the spring semester ended

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 21 May 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

The one in green is foxy.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 21 May 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

Dear gay people, this:

ok, so last night when wasted and hanging out with my previously mentioned gay friends in town (who are a couple), I decided to get naked and see what happened. well, shit happened. lots of it

is why straight people have this weird envy/jealousy thing of teh fags going on. Sigh.

― Mark C, Monday, 21 May 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

i feel like we haven't heard from him since the spring semester ended

if he's anything like me, he's too busy drinking heavily to post on ILX much

― impudent harlot, Monday, 21 May 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

Dear gay people, this: [...] is why straight people have this weird envy/jealousy thing of teh fags going on

i'm living the dream, ppl :\

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 21 May 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

Oh you are. Whether you like it or not :)

― Mark C, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

Also see: why my only one-night stand ever was with a guy I met at a gay bar.

― jaymc, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

WHORES THE LOT OF US.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

ok the hangover is really kicking in now and i think maybe i am starting to regret my actions

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

maybe

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

MANWHORES HAVE NO REGRETS

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

(imagine that guilt projected over twenty seven years and you'll have some clue of my broily inner state)

― remy bean, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

maybe all 3 of you can erase the night.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

I'm liking the look of those guys you hooked up with!

Last night I went to a co-worker's birthday bash at a gay bar and who should show up but the girl who I hooked up with a few months ago. It was burdensome because everyone kept teasing me and making the pussy-eating face (she was the first girl I ever went down on). However, I was vindicated when she told some of the straight guys that I was really good at it even though it was my first time.

― Jesse, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

good oral sex is a skill easily transferable across gender boundaries, i think!

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

So you could have contributed to the "vagina: c/d" debate already!

How did you find it, the going down? (I mean did you enjoy it, not how the hell did you know where to plunge, obv)

― Mark C, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, you are a ~~wild man~~ traitor.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

the vagina is not my favorite orifice, it's weird and kinda rubbery but whatever... when in rome, i guess.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

i don't regret my actions so much as dread the inevitable awkwardness when i see them again

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

Open with a joke.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

News that I learned last night: I am good at cunnilingus.
-- Jesse, Monday, May 21, 2007 4:23 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Maybe, but you can only improve with more practice. Besides, don't vaginas pretty much gross you out?
-- kenan, Monday, May 21, 2007 4:27 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
I'm sorry, I just had you confused with every other gay man ever.
-- kenan, Monday, May 21, 2007 4:41 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

― Jesse, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

i don't regret my actions so much as dread the inevitable awkwardness when i see them again

yours or theirs?

― remy bean, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

Elmo, I hope you weren't acting like such a tease last night.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

if you're focusing on the vagina, you're not doing it right!!

― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

er, in regards to oral sex on a lady, that is

― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

i don't have a problem with sleeping with friends, and many of my sexual relationships have been to that standard. that said, i'm worried about one or both of them not being ok with it, and the incident compromising the friendship and/or causing turbulence between the coupled friends.

i'm a tease now? great. :\

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

I found it...OK. Once I was into the act I was ready to be done with it but it was too late so I forged ahead. But really it is like when you're tripping on acid or shrooms and at some point you think, OK, I'm ready to stop tripping now, but there is nothing you can do about it.

I think the vagina is a lot like scrotum skin.

― Jesse, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

Dear girls,

Unless you want to provide a universal, non-profane word that encompasses the whole genital area, then "vagina" will have to continue to suffice.

Love,
Mr. Jeez, Stop Talking About Pussy On Teh Gay Thread

― Mark C, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

Uh, NO. Also, have you never heard the word vulva??????

― tokyo rosemary, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

I think the vagina is a lot like scrotum skin.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

fuck off CUNT

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

lovely lady lumps

― remy bean, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

Uh, YES (xpost). I didn't realise it was all-inclusive! But, thanks to the OH MY GOD NOT SAFE FOR WORK Wikipedia page, I have been corrected.

― Mark C, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

http://bean.plasmator.net/random%20pix/rat_computer.jpg

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

o jesus

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

Stevie D, for those playing along at home, is in Europe right now, and will be back in a few days.

― Casuistry, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

i hope he has stories!

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

Also, Elmo, they look like goers. Things will be only as awkward as you make them. I mean, the awkward question is "should we do it again?" I guess -- do you have an answer for that?

― Casuistry, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

Well, he's travelling with family, so I'm not sure his stories will be that awesome, but maybe, you never know.

― Casuistry, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

Elmo, which one was the best?

― Mark C, Monday, 21 May 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

I think I've provided enough details for now...

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 21 May 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

Obv Elmo was best.

― Casuistry, Monday, 21 May 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

LIVING THE DREAM

― andi, Monday, 21 May 2007 23:32 (eighteen years ago)

so I stopped by to see one of my friends at his work [the blond one] just to make sure we were still cool, and we are. and oh, how we laughed.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 21 May 2007 23:56 (eighteen years ago)

Which is more appropriate to make a private pic--your face, or your cock?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

so I stopped by to see one of my friends at his work [the blond one] just to make sure we were still cool, and we are. and oh, how we laughed.

No going back for seconds?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

Since it seems that everything is fine, can we have some details now?

We can has detailz now?

*sigh*

― Jesse, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

you can have one detail and one detail only: i got fucked for [only] the second time in my life.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 03:10 (eighteen years ago)

Gays can be really ungood at teh whole deferred pleasure thing.

― Eric H., Wednesday, 23 May 2007 03:29 (eighteen years ago)

... I'm not sure what that means?

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 03:49 (eighteen years ago)

Your detail brings up a question (besides the question, did you enjoy: is fucking--receptive or active--something you save for a special someone? For me if I'm naked and doing things there might as well be penetration, but for other guys its like they're saving it for marriage or something.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 05:09 (eighteen years ago)

I meant if that detail was meant as a tease, there's nothing much left unsaid.

― Eric H., Wednesday, 23 May 2007 05:18 (eighteen years ago)

Oh? I dunno...it might be a big one, but it's only a single detail and it creates more curiousity than it satisfies. I think we're looking for a play-by-play.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 05:20 (eighteen years ago)

or a blow-by-blow, if you will

― kenan, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 05:22 (eighteen years ago)

OMG SNAP.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 05:45 (eighteen years ago)

I have, like, a lot of gay sex on ILX.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 06:06 (eighteen years ago)

Is this the post-when-you're-drunk thread?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 06:07 (eighteen years ago)

Naive straight person question ahoy - I can only imagine that if I was enjoying regular manlove with a partner I'd want roughly 50/50 on the giving/taking - yet whenever I hear gay people discussing such things it seems most only tend to go for one or the other. What's up with that?

― Mark C, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 10:19 (eighteen years ago)

Depends on the partner, arrangement, etc.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 11:47 (eighteen years ago)

Mark, it means that many gays are more like boring missionary-position breeders than they will ever admit.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 13:16 (eighteen years ago)

Honestly, I've not really engaged in a lot of penetrative sex, but when it has happened, I've usually been the top. I think a large part of the reason for that is I'm a rather imposing physical specimen -- I'm a tall, broad dude [though getting less tubby, thank god], so I lot of guys I've been with quickly adopt a submissive role. Not that I mind, really.

The other part of the reason could be attributed to lingering issues with having things in my butt, but I've made some progress there.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

I call that lingering issue PAIN.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

I call that lingering issue OMG WHAT'S GOING ON BACK THERE I FELL LIKE I NEED TO TAKE A DUMP

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

Different people like different things. I'm pretty convinced that bottoms who really enjoy bottoming have way more fun than tops who really enjoy topping, but some people don't enjoy one or both of those roles.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

I'm pretty convinced that bottoms who really enjoy bottoming have way more ~~fun~~video head cleaner than tops who really enjoy topping

― strgn, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 23:30 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I've never been with a guy who was using that or anything similar, but I'm sure that makes it even funner, yes.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 24 May 2007 06:34 (eighteen years ago)

i am baffled that some of those nitrates are marketed as ROOM ODORIZERS. yeah, that's great if you want your room to smell like poppers. eugh.

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 24 May 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

bottoms who really enjoy bottoming have way more fun than tops who really enjoy topping

Intriguing thesis... Did you use a control group?

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 24 May 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

are poppers fun?

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Thursday, 24 May 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)

If you like sex.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 24 May 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

I've heard of one or two people who didn't like them, but mostly the answer is apparently "OMGYES".

― Casuistry, Thursday, 24 May 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

jon, i would honestly not recommend poppers to you, i think you would srsly pass right out

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 24 May 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

i think they can be fun but honestly they make me feel skeevy

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 24 May 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

i've never used poppers in a sexual setting but they're a fun rush for about 20 secs

― impudent harlot, Thursday, 24 May 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

(also rly bad for you so i never do them)

― impudent harlot, Thursday, 24 May 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

also, "topping" is a funny verb that makes me think of sundaes

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

Mm, now I want a sundae.

Yeah poppers are said to be very bad for you and also tend to make you into a boring person, as far as I can tell.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 24 May 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.zedelire.com/generiques/img/popples.gif

― remy bean, Friday, 25 May 2007 06:26 (eighteen years ago)

poppers are horrible. after we went out to a rave once we all went up on the moors, and there was this cliff edge, and for some reason we had to take toots on the poppers and then go and hang off this tree branch over the cliff edge, and each timme the next person had to do like an extra toot on the poppers than the last person. the sight of 20 or so people all still high on pills at 10am hanging off this tree branch over a cliffedge probably didnt make the local picnicers too happy

― 696, Friday, 25 May 2007 06:35 (eighteen years ago)

the drunk thread isn't on the main page so HI DERE GAY-LX

― impudent harlot, Friday, 25 May 2007 06:40 (eighteen years ago)

i covered all my bases tonight (beer/wine/whiskey)

we almost went to splash :o

― impudent harlot, Friday, 25 May 2007 06:41 (eighteen years ago)

A short rundown of the people I want to mate with:

http://style2ouf.media.free.fr/break-623.wmv

― Eric H., Friday, 25 May 2007 07:54 (eighteen years ago)

i've never used poppers in a sexual setting but they're a fun rush for about 20 secs

(also rly bad for you so i never do them)

Imp OTM in both cases. When I was a teenager I was terrified by anything that might be considered "proper" drugs, but was quite content to blow my head up with poppers. And, tbh, the first few times they were great - 30-60 seconds of feeling like your body is being stretched, accompanied by everything being INCREDIBLY funny, then back to normal.

But after a while, the headaches start, and once they've started, they seem to happen with every sniff. Probably a very sensible "stop poisoning me" signal from your brain.

― Mark C, Friday, 25 May 2007 09:44 (eighteen years ago)

ok so i think i'll finally meet my true love when we have sex to scott walker - 3

― strgn, Friday, 25 May 2007 10:25 (eighteen years ago)

WOW HI DERE DRUNK WHOOPSIE

― strgn, Friday, 25 May 2007 10:26 (eighteen years ago)

I always refused da poppers when anyone ever shoved that burning-tire scent under my nose, and my heart always sank bcz ppl who use them are generally only having sex with themselves.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 25 May 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, hey, that seems to be it exactly. Even just from the way people describe it.

― Casuistry, Friday, 25 May 2007 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

Wow! I have no idea what they are like

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Friday, 25 May 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

guys i don't even know what a popper IS

― river wolf, Friday, 25 May 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

Well, bend over and take a whiff of this and I'll show you.

― Casuistry, Friday, 25 May 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

o.O

― river wolf, Friday, 25 May 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)

poppers are amyl nitrate, which I think were originally used as a medication for certain heart conditions because it is a vascular relaxant(?). anyway, most poppers are not amyl nitrate but cheaper / more harmful nitrate compounds.

i'm not into poppers guys i just know these things

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 25 May 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

louis jagger has done poppers

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 25 May 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

xpost Real poppers are amyl nitrate, but those are hard to find and very expensive. The stuff you usually get is similar, but dirtier and not as strong.

When you do them while making sexy time they make you 1000% hornier and more into whatever you are doing, be that giving, getting, taking, or receiving, or just making out. But I find that afterward I feel headachey and not quite right.

Hey! It's International Mr. Leather weekend here in the Windy City!

― Jesse, Friday, 25 May 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

my popper used to turn into a football when i turned him inside out.

― remy bean, Friday, 25 May 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

If we're being anal (do you see what I did etc.) about it, it's amyl nitrite, not nitrate. They were certainly easy enough to come across (do you see etc etc.) in the early 90s in London, though you had to go to sex shops to get them.

I have to admit I never noticed anything happening to my libido during my amyl experiences.

― Mark C, Friday, 25 May 2007 22:36 (eighteen years ago)

When you do them while making sexy time they make you 1000% hornier and more into whatever you are doing, be that giving, getting, taking, or receiving, or just making out.

weed's not good enough for people anymore?

i've only done poppers once, running around london. fun, but dumb. very similar to wippets.

― jaxon, Friday, 25 May 2007 22:54 (eighteen years ago)

i have a question for the gays from a straight:

say you've got this really long train of dudes. like 5-10 deep. can you use momentum to make the sex sorta like a Newton's Cradle?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/e/e8/20060808122030!Newtons_cradle_animation_book.gif

― jaxon, Friday, 25 May 2007 23:01 (eighteen years ago)

O_o

― Steve Shasta, Friday, 25 May 2007 23:03 (eighteen years ago)

ppl who use them are generally only having sex with themselves.

otm

― strgn, Friday, 25 May 2007 23:05 (eighteen years ago)

Today, I learned that those things have a name.

(Newton's Cradle)

― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 25 May 2007 23:13 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, it took me, shasta, chaki, some super smart armenian dude and shasta's mom 15 minutes to figure it out

― jaxon, Friday, 25 May 2007 23:15 (eighteen years ago)

Um, are you talking about the name or the momentum?

― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 25 May 2007 23:24 (eighteen years ago)

ppl who use them are generally only having sex with themselves.

otm

Maybe in some cases, but even if you're giving head, for about 30 seconds it's like...I dunno, it's like you're diving in and giving it everything you've got in a way that you never have before. It's like whatever you're doing is air after you've been underwater for a couple of minutes.

That said, I have tried poppers during receptive anal sex and the result wasn't as dramatic.

― Jesse, Friday, 25 May 2007 23:55 (eighteen years ago)

I live down the street from the leather bar, and the epicenter of Int'l Mr. Leather, and we have had some leathermen walking from the El to the bar.

Last year a couple of leather guys were walking down my street, a guy wearing a collar, lead by another guy with leather leash. What was funny was that they were talking and their conversation was completely banal, "We need to go to Target tomorrow," etc.

― Jesse, Friday, 25 May 2007 23:59 (eighteen years ago)

Hi hi everyone. I seemed to have missed a lot :-/

― Stevie D, Saturday, 26 May 2007 00:17 (eighteen years ago)

But can elmo plz post a face pic of the hot guy in the green shirt?

― Stevie D, Saturday, 26 May 2007 00:17 (eighteen years ago)

oh i didn't say i wasn't a fan. poppers can be very uh relaxing.

more iml gossip! you should go to bar and report back. tho in my experience leathermen in general are kinda banal.

― strgn, Saturday, 26 May 2007 01:10 (eighteen years ago)

Not nec banal, but I find that after engaging in 'edgeplay' with a leatherman, walk into his bathroom and you will find a shrine to Judy Garland, or The Wizard of Oz in general.

Actually, banal.

I though the only sexy effect of poppers was to relax yr sphincter?

― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 26 May 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

Hmmm. In my case it only metaphorically relaxed my sphincter (ha ha--I started typing "sprinkler").

― Jesse, Saturday, 26 May 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

Jeff and I went to a 4 AM bar last night and it was pretty heavy on leather dudes. No real gossip. Just guys in leather drinking beer and looking tough but talking with lissp.

― Jesse, Saturday, 26 May 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

lisps.

― Jesse, Saturday, 26 May 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

for stevie:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/138/407462978_35beb13d9a.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/152/407462821_3a6400eb35.jpg

― elmo argonaut, Saturday, 26 May 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

Cute.

― Jesse, Saturday, 26 May 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

Please tell me Jeff was decked out in leather.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 26 May 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

Last year a couple of leather guys were walking down my street, a guy wearing a collar, lead by another guy with leather leash. What was funny was that they were talking and their conversation was completely banal, "We need to go to Target tomorrow," etc.

life imitates kids in the hall

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Saturday, 26 May 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

ah, I wish some of my distant ILX gay friends had been at the Kiki & Herb show the other night. so the Momus and Mt Goats covers would've approached "Total Eclipse of the Heart" in audience apprec.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

Morbs, I'm v sorry I missed it! Is this the end of K&H or will I have a chance to see them next time I'm in NY?

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

Meanwhile I was groped by an awful painter during a cigarette run. His boyfriend and some married friends were indoors talking about Amy Winehouse.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

Were you both getting cigarettes? I didn't know you smoked, Alfred.

xpost

Herb introduced Kiki as "For the last time in Twothousandand.... (silence)"

This was the last of six months of Sunday nights at Joe's Pub. Sorry elmo :(

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

Were you both getting cigarettes? I didn't know you smoked, Alfred.

I smoke a pack a week. I just, heh, went along for the ride, knowing full well what would happen (we'd hooked up, listlessly, a couple of years ago).

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to forgo some lame oral-fixation joke.

ohhh, 'listless hookup' is a bummer phrase.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

I think I may have a little problem -- since hooking up w/ my friends last week, the sexual tension between me & one of them [green shirt] has been constant & nearly unbearable. I DON'T WANT TO BE A HOMEWRECKER. :(:(:(

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

i don't think it will come to any point where it will threaten our friendship or their relationship -- we've talked about it at length -- but it's so frustrating to know when we are hanging out we are both thinking about it.

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

well, that's why one needs to be careful, per upthread warnings. :/

Find someone for a late-spring fling, fast!

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

haha, i actually have a long-time long-distance crush coming to visit this next weekend, i think that may help. wtf, when did i turn into such a man-slut?

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

at 14?

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

ha! my 14-year-old junior-varsity-wrestling self sincerely wishes that were true.

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

As do we all.

Morbs, which songs did they cover?

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

You mean, all 2-1/2 hrs of covers? It's not like I know even 2/3, ignoring so much pop as I have. This is their old cheat sheet, so it doesn't have Mt Goats' "No Children" or Jarvis Cocker's "Running the World" on it.

elmo, if you got to grapple with boys regularly under curricular auspices, no complaints pleez.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

Elmo, crabs are worse than man-lust.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

I don't understand what the problem is?? two words: causal sex

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

if i can get everyone involved to agree to some sort of polyamorous pow-wow to talk things through then maybe it will work out

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:34 (eighteen years ago)

TUOMAS-INDIAN.JPG

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

"causal" sex, Stevie? Hasn't it caused enough for poor elmo?

It's called CASUAL cuz you have it with sailors you meet casually.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

morbs <3s fleet week

― impudent harlot, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

haven't actually seen any super-hot arrivals yet.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:54 (eighteen years ago)

m4m missed connections disappointing thusfar

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 19:59 (eighteen years ago)

providence m4m missed connections == pathetic

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

I was the handsome weatherman in the bike shorts, you were the sexually ambiguous teenager in the bowler sitting outside Channels with your friend.

― remy bean, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

hahaaaaaa, remy dude, we ran into RJ @ the mirabar on Friday night, pathetic as ever

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

oh hey that reminds me

CONFIRMED/SIGHTED: cute nerdy guy of ambiguous sexuality from my film class making out with (not very good looking) dude at gay club on sun. night

― impudent harlot, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

RJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 20:39 (eighteen years ago)

RJ DOES NOT DRINK, FOR YOUR INFORMATION

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

^^^ saturday night, i mean, not friday. long weekend was a boozy doozy.

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 29 May 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

(I mostly just wanted to know the covers you mentioned. Or really just the Mtn Goats one.)

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 00:41 (eighteen years ago)

I think I would like to live in Boystown. I used to be averse to the idea b/c of all the annoying queens and the tendency of a lot of gay guys to be Northalsted-centric, but there is so much there there: restaurants, bars, Whole Foods, buses, trains, interesting people, video rental places.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 04:09 (eighteen years ago)

I often go to the Reckless near Boystown to see if any of the workers will compliment on a selection and then make a pass at me. Bad to assume they're gay because of the proximity, but it's nice to fantasize.

― Ivan, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 04:13 (eighteen years ago)

That never even occurred to me!

I went to the Brown Elephant today (go to Chicago thread for a picture of my outstanding purchase! Go now!) and the guy who helped me load my purchase was cuet (sort of indie-looking, scruffy face, in shape, canvas slip-on shoes, khaki shorts, plastic-framed glasses--yum) but I didn't want to make a big thing of it b/c I was hung over and hadn't showered, so I let it go. The end.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 04:21 (eighteen years ago)

I saw the hutch, nice!

― Ivan, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 04:23 (eighteen years ago)

I'm chatting with a dood right now. This hasn't happened in a while.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 04:23 (eighteen years ago)

Meh. I can't trust you fags to go look at my hutch, so I'm bringing it to you. I have another but I can't Flickr is down, so it'll have to wait.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/231/520669721_676d7a87a7_b.jpg

― Jesse, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 04:28 (eighteen years ago)

Update on the neighbor situation: invited me to watch a movie with him three weeks ago, he made a move, we fooled around/fucked for a week, he told me we were just friends, blew me off, haven't seen him in two weeks, haven't spoken to him in nearly one week, wrote him a letter on Sunday telling him how I'm feeling about all of this and it's still in his mail slot. Hoping to at least get a word with him so at least I can be clarified on his intentions, even if they are somewhat clear.

― Ivan, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 04:41 (eighteen years ago)

wtf is all on top of yr stove?

― Stevie D, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 05:16 (eighteen years ago)

You know, you people say you have no gay friends in town but this is a lie. Chris has gay friends in town and Jesse has gay friends in town and Elmo and Dr. Morbius and Ivan have gay friends in town. Even if it's not that many.

I have 2 friends (who don't know each other) who are bisexual, but they're both girls, and I think that's it. And both of them have boyfriends. I don't think there ARE gay friends in neu |8runsw1ck. What the fuck, people?

― Stevie D, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 05:21 (eighteen years ago)

wtf is all on top of yr stove?

Huh. Good eye I guess.

That's a bunch of crap that I was moving from out of an cabinet I was throwing away. Not that I don't normally keep shit on my stovetop, cuz lack of counter space makes the stove a catch-all. At another apartment I had the same problem, but I had to stop b/c I had an electric stove and I would keep my mail on the stove (??) and one day I bumped the knob and started a fire. This is not a risk with this stove.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 05:28 (eighteen years ago)

xpost: oh, i have several gay friends in town, i just barely do anything with any of them (except maybe one or two)

― impudent harlot, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 05:28 (eighteen years ago)

Who said I have gay friends in my town? I have gay co-workers who I hang out after work, and I have 1 friend who is gay but I have only talked to him briefly for 2 times in the past year.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 05:30 (eighteen years ago)

Kenan's kinda gay I guess....

― Jesse, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 05:30 (eighteen years ago)

(helps in my case that i went to a school with disproportionate amt. of gay students)

― impudent harlot, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 05:31 (eighteen years ago)

My hutch is my new best friend. A hutch is pretty gay, right?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/239/521019036_481381230a.jpg

― Jesse, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 05:33 (eighteen years ago)

I said I had "like, no" gay friends in town.

You've been avoiding the gay groups etc. so you haven't really had a chance to find the other gay guys who are avoiding the gay groups but will put up with them to find the other gay guys who don't want to put up with them. If you see what I mean.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 05:50 (eighteen years ago)

Also, you can't spell butch without hutch.

Or, just a dot of ink turns a hutch butch.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 05:51 (eighteen years ago)

I wish I was in Portland. Chicago is going into that other season it has--the sticky, hot, gross one.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 06:06 (eighteen years ago)

I'm tired of telling this story, but it's funny.

I was at a party thrown by a girl whose roommate is a really femme (he's a dancer and he wears thongs) Guatemalen gay guy with a strong accent. He was telling his roommate about something that our friend Molly did, but he mixed her up with our other friend Marie. When corrected he said, "Oh whatever, Molly, Marie--they're all the same--just poosies."

― Jesse, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 06:09 (eighteen years ago)

I wish I weren't going to the east coast for the summer, at least as far as weather goes.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 06:11 (eighteen years ago)

: (

― Stevie D, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 06:27 (eighteen years ago)

From the state poll thread:

I get to keep tabs on Idaho which has lots of pretty shit, but still, it's Idaho and is often quite baffling. They just elected a man named Butch Otter as their governor. Seriously. An adult man who goes by BUTCH OTTER.

-- joygoat, Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:25 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 07:20 (eighteen years ago)

Chris, has yr summer stay been restored to full length? It's sposed to be "sultry" in NY this weekend, but I'll be in SF.

Cosign what harlot said about hardly ever seeing my gay friends.

I didn't want to make a big thing of it b/c I was hung over and hadn't showered

He mighta wanted you dirty!

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

You don't understand. I don't keep well.

OK, so I'm chatting with Dood, but he's 6'3"! I can't date someone that tall, especially since I'm preeetttyy sure he's a bottom--that's square in Great Dane-Mini Pinscher territory. He's completely cute though.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

I've thought about this and I "don't keep well" sounds gross. What I meant is that I look grimy and greasy w/out regular washing.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

I'm 6'3".

My summer plans are entirely flexible. I get in June 12th and will surely be there for the rest of June at least. Really it depends on if I get any better offers? Something something something. The world is my oyster but I want to stay in my (air-conditioned) shell.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 31 May 2007 00:32 (eighteen years ago)

You're 6'3" and I would feel ridiculous fucking you.

― Jesse, Thursday, 31 May 2007 00:36 (eighteen years ago)

Especially since I'm not a bottom.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 31 May 2007 02:04 (eighteen years ago)

We would both feel pretty weird about it.

― Jesse, Thursday, 31 May 2007 02:07 (eighteen years ago)

Things are shaping up for a date with Stretchy McTall-Pants.

― Jesse, Thursday, 31 May 2007 02:11 (eighteen years ago)

Get him a copy of A Bottom's Guide To Topping.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 31 May 2007 02:40 (eighteen years ago)

Actually we were IMing last night and he made a joke like did I want a some German in me, so I guess there's hope yet.

― Jesse, Thursday, 31 May 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

It's time this thread and the kissing thread overlapped.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 31 May 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

I kind of have to avoid the kissing thread b/c bad kisses gross me out and make me really sad. And I'm concerned that I'm going to meet someone I'm really into and he's going to be a bad kisser--worst=little darting tongue, and the cavernous-mouthed face-eater. :(

― Jesse, Thursday, 31 May 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

I love this thread.

― Tim F, Thursday, 31 May 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks, sweetie.

― Stevie D, Thursday, 31 May 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

ok, so the dude RJ that remy mentioned upthread is a local tv meteorologist, probably close to 60 years old now? He's known for stalking around town in bike shorts and being creepy. but anyway, I learned last night he is kinda infamous in the gay scene here for propositioning young men for watersports. OMG 90% CHANCE OF GOLDEN SHOWERS LOL.

besides which, my friend R0bb1n once was at a party and offered RJ a swig of bailey's, to which RJ responded "no thanks, I don't do the hard stuff." LOL

and OMG remy, a google search of his name shows that he is AN ASPIRING SCREENWRITER

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 31 May 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

the dude RJ that remy mentioned upthread is a local tv meteorologist, probably close to 60 years old now?

You're dating Brick Tamland?

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 May 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/3664/butchotter2rz3.jpg

― Stevie D, Thursday, 31 May 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

g00gl3proof his name so I can see who this weatherman is

― Stevie D, Thursday, 31 May 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

Ned, I sincerely hope the part about me dating that dude was a lapse in reading comprehension and not a deliberate insult.

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 31 May 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

A lapse, of course. I save the deliberate insults for other times.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 May 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

Oh good. ;-) Just 'cause that dude is superlatively skeevy. Stevie, his name is RJ H31M.

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 31 May 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

I know; I found him like 2 minutes after I posted that. But thanks :-)

― Stevie D, Thursday, 31 May 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

-- joygoat, Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:25 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

OK, this is really weird, because I didn't even read that thread, and I was just about to post the exact same thing in this thread, since I learned it at work the other day.

― jaymc, Thursday, 31 May 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

Something tells me he might not be aware of the connotations...

― Stevie D, Thursday, 31 May 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

OK so we've talked about bears, otters, and other varmints, but now I wanna discuss a whole other gay beast--the pig. What are your impressions and opinions on pigs? Are you a pig (of any stripe)? Do pigs have stripes?

One time a guy called me a pig, and I was really surprised, but later he said it was not meant as an insult or a jibe, but as dirty talk because I was obviously feeling what was going on.

Where does being passionate overlap with being porcine?

― Jesse, Saturday, 2 June 2007 07:09 (eighteen years ago)

little darting tongue

shit is the worst

― river wolf, Saturday, 2 June 2007 09:01 (eighteen years ago)

The problem with getting into a deeply raunchy scene is the overwhelming desire to look at one's partner just after orgasm with a gleam in one's eye and say, "That'll do, pig. That'll do."

― Casuistry, Saturday, 2 June 2007 12:37 (eighteen years ago)

'raunch' is such a wide-open category.

― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 2 June 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

This IM from tallboy was on my computer when I woke up. It made me rofl.

Brian: MAKE ME BREAKFAST!
Sent at 8:21 AM on Saturday
Brian: I THOUGH YOU LUVED ME!! TYREL NEEDS FORMULA AND KIKI NEEDS NEW PRADA SHOES!! WHERE IS YOU WHEN YO BABIES NEED YOU
Brian: and Shinolvia want you to take her to chucky cheese
for her 17th birthday
remember her, she the lil retarded one

Also hilarious--a coworker who also works at the Cell Block was telling me that on Tuesday they had "International Mr. Leftover" night.

― Jesse, Saturday, 2 June 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

The problem with getting into a deeply raunchy scene is the overwhelming desire to look at one's partner just after orgasm with a gleam in one's eye and say, "That'll do, pig. That'll do."

And I deem this funny as well.

― Jesse, Saturday, 2 June 2007 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

guys -- 4-way with aforementioned out-of-town crush & aforementioned gay coupled friends: accomplished

a winner is me.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 June 2007 05:51 (eighteen years ago)

I can't even imagine the mechanics of a 4-way. How does the, uh, fun get shared equally? Isn't there a danger of people getting left out? How do you concentrate on it all?

But, at the same time, I am hugely envious. You lucky fucker.

― Mark C, Monday, 4 June 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

It was more of a leisurely, continuously reconfiguring pile of boys -- while there were many moments where all 4 of us were on the bed, everyone would now and then take a break to smoke a cigarette, use the bathroom, or to pull from a bottle of whiskey and enjoy the scenery. It lasted a couple hours, and ultimately nobody came -- we were all far too tired by the end of it.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 June 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

Attaboy, Elmo! So we ever gonna see this boy crush?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 4 June 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

The thing about 3- and 4-ways that a lot of people don't seem to get is that not every participant has to constantly be in play or the object of attention, if the others are involved in something where they are directing attention to each other, then the 3rd can watch, kiss, help, etc. It works fine. What could really mess it up (and thank god I've never had this problem) is if one person *never* receives any attention, or if that person tries to jump in and is shooed away.

― Jesse, Monday, 4 June 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

Never been in a 4-way; trying to be fair would make my head spin, as there's always one person you're least interested in. A three-way, however...

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 4 June 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

HIGH SCORE LIST BRO!!!

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 4 June 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

Alfred, there's really no need to be totally egalitarian towards everyone, as long as everyone is taking part to the extent they choose and enjoying themselves.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, it seems like you boys had a good system. For your next post, include a play-by-play.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

(liveb)log jammin'

― river wolf, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

sorry

― river wolf, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

Well, one of my friends was excusing himself to go to bed, and as he and my crush were giving each other a hug, I kinda... pushed them closer together and they started smooching. So I guess I made it happen, but it wasn't really planned or orchestrated.

Y'all can call me Svengali.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

So what happens now between you and #1 Crush?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

I dunno! The funniest part is, though -- he had never fooled around with another guy (beyond making out) until last night.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

Don't expect a call soon. He's probably going to gather tattered shreds of his bisexuality.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

Nah, he's actually staying at my house for another day or two. I don't forsee this causing a problem.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

I might add that there was also a camera in play at one point.

Don't get your hopes up, fellas.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

My hopes are a little up....

― Jesse, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

face pix? of any of them?

― Stevie D, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

Or you could put black bars over the faces if you want....

― Jesse, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

(I'm addicted to ellipses today....)

― Jesse, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

solar ellipses or lunar ellipses...?

― Stevie D, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

all my 3 some photos were deleted haha :(

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 4 June 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

I never had any 3-way photos. My experience is that sexy photos are not.

― Jesse, Monday, 4 June 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

And then I thought of a number of exceptions.

But photos of myself involved in sexytime is not something I really am interested in.

― Jesse, Monday, 4 June 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

photos of myself involved in sexytime is not something I really am interested in

exactly the reason why I said hopes should not be elevated.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 June 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

WDYLL IN A FOURGY?

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 June 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

I am really tempted to photoshop yr initials onto a high score list of a video game

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 4 June 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

yes but wdy parterns in the fourgy ll?

― Stevie D, Monday, 4 June 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

stevie, i linked photos of the two coupled friends upthread. don't have a decent photo of crushboy to post right now, tho.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 June 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

Best line overheard at SF Eagle beer blast: "Every time we go out for a tomato, we come home with a table."

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 4 June 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

http://tinyurl.com/236bft

^^^ crushboy shredding air guitar, not a v good face pic tho

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 June 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

Where do you find these guys? All the gay guys around here are either twinks/way too preppy, old and haggard, or just plain not cute. The other day at Crew I did see 3 guys hanging out who had this sort of look, but that was a rare, rare thing.

― Jesse, Monday, 4 June 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

I think you're hoarding them.

― Jesse, Monday, 4 June 2007 17:20 (eighteen years ago)

my gay coupled friends I met through a mutual friend who worked with one of them. the bi crushboy i found on okcupid about a year ago; we've met up a couple times before but this is the first time he's come to visit me.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 June 2007 17:37 (eighteen years ago)

Huh. I had never heard of okcupid.com

― Jesse, Monday, 4 June 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

so there was a 3way with the couple
followed by a 4gy with the couple + crushboy
and what will be next?

― Stevie D, Monday, 4 June 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

what other okcupidesque sites do you guys recommend?

― Stevie D, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

nerve seemed interesting. Chicago Reader personals too (not that that does you any good).

Tell me a little about okcupid. I mean I'm looking it over, but what is it known for?

― Jesse, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

ohh eugh nothing that costs money

― Stevie D, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

it's known for having a lot of freaky alternative / nerdy / pagan / bisexual types and also compulsive online quiz takers. but you don't have to take my word for it! </lavar burton>

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 4 June 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

You're not kidding about those quizzes.

― Jesse, Monday, 4 June 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

Oh! OH! I did sometihng for the first time today!

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 01:45 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know if I have anything to add about OKCupid except I sure with it had more than just those damn bisexual hippie pagans in it.

Actually I met the last guy I dated (a bisexual metalhead lawyer type) there, and while that didn't quite work out, at least he wasn't a generic gay guy!

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 02:14 (eighteen years ago)

What this thread needs is its own so not gonna happen moment.

― Eric H., Tuesday, 5 June 2007 03:36 (eighteen years ago)

Any photo with me in it.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 03:41 (eighteen years ago)

Oh! OH! I did sometihng for the first time today!

What? Why did no one else ask this yet? Am I missing something?

I should have said earlier--you also were not kidding about all the bisexuals. I will NOT date another bisexual, no fucking way. In fact even hooking up with a guy who I know is bi cuts the appeal to a degree.

My boyfriend of 4-ish years was bi and while he didn't seek out women, it was annoying, and he talked to me about having a 3-way with a woman on a couple of occasions, and I found it way annoying that he checked out women spent time with straight porn. (I really don't care at all if he a guy I'm with checks out other guys or looks at gay porn, btw.)

Anyway, bis are cloggin up my search results.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 04:17 (eighteen years ago)

You can exclude them, I think.

Most of the bi guys (and the straight guy) that I've dated have not been like that at all.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 06:05 (eighteen years ago)

the only bi guy i've had any run-in with started cuddling with me while my bf was about five feet away from me

he later told me he grew up on some kind of free-love commune

― impudent harlot, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 06:12 (eighteen years ago)

(this was after he hooked up w/ our female friend)

― impudent harlot, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 06:12 (eighteen years ago)

free love on the free love freeway
hot love on the hot love highway

― Jesse, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 07:37 (eighteen years ago)

http://uk.gizmodo.com/David_Brent_111.jpg

― Jesse, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 07:37 (eighteen years ago)

Caz, exactly how long did you date a str8 guy?

Best line addressed directly to me at SF Eagle beer blast: "You're bringing us all down. You need to go."

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 09:25 (eighteen years ago)

Steve what did you do for the first time?!?

I was cycling in to work today in muh hott lycra shorts and I got checked out by TWO men. I very, very rarely catch the eyes of gentlemen, but my thighs *are* kinda toned and I obviously look good in a helmet. So that was nice.

― Mark C, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 09:28 (eighteen years ago)

hey baybee

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 09:30 (eighteen years ago)

guys, mister crushboy had been staying at my house and discovered this thread due to my carelessness and an open browser tab. i was embarrassed and tried to explain that it was just getting out my necessary high-fives; he just giggled and kissed me -- he really didn't mind at all! i am convinced now that i am made of teflon.

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 11:59 (eighteen years ago)

choo choo!!!

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 12:13 (eighteen years ago)

It's kind of lame and not that big of a deal. I guess I just did it to be an asshole.

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 12:26 (eighteen years ago)

You still haven't told us! Dish.

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 12:31 (eighteen years ago)

Bi guys don't "giggle." He's a queero.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 13:04 (eighteen years ago)

I'm straight and I giggle.

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 13:06 (eighteen years ago)

Uhh well then you obviously have some unexplored sexual identity issues.

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.disney-vacation-time.com/img/snow-white/snow-white-4.jpg

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

Morbulent: About a year, thought it was a LDR.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

CHRIS get on aim NOW

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

It's kind of lame and not that big of a deal. I guess I just did it to be an asshole.

Now you are being an asshole. Or a tease at least.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

stevie wants to cybarsex

ASL????//

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

for real, i gave y'all news on a goddamn 4way, stevie, i think i deserve to be repaid in gossip! tell us & tell us NOWWW

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, out with it

― impudent harlot, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

[ADMIN: www.peteholiday.com appears to be another fucktard site that uses goatse/tubgirl as anti-hotlink image. How original, eh.]

― Jesse, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

Ummmm....

Apparently the image I was trying to post is not what you all are seeing. And if others are telling the truth, I probably need to just go back to bed.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 17:19 (eighteen years ago)

I would never lie about tubgirl. Tubgirl is a very grave matter.

― kenan, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

i was at lunch just now so i dodged that bullet luckily

― impudent harlot, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

What image was it? Put it on imageshack and then post it.

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

i've decided what i did for the first time is kinda boring. what should i do for the first time that would be more interesting (tho it won't compete with elmo i'm guessing)?

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

uhm... fist someone? or get fisted. your preference.

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

Intense.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

just a suggestion -- and definitely not boring.

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

But my fist is rly rly big :-( And my bum is rly small

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

That's the whole point, duder.

Try fisting yourself first.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:12 (eighteen years ago)

chris, one of my gay friends in town has once -- in defiance of sense, dignity, and topology -- actually fisted himself. no joke.

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

(this was neither of my gay coupled friends, to clarify)

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)

So, why is fisting considered a good thing if you're gay, but almost never comes up in hetero romance? Lack of imagination?

― Mark C, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 23:24 (eighteen years ago)

You're hanging out with the wrong heteros.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 23:49 (eighteen years ago)

fisting seems like too much damn work

― impudent harlot, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 00:41 (eighteen years ago)

yes, yes it does.

― Stevie D, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 00:50 (eighteen years ago)

so, pretty sure i'm not gonna be sleeping with my coupled friends again. i mean, it was awesome & fun and everything, but it's happened a few times in quick succession and things are have got just a little weird between us -- i suspect my participation may have dragged up some jealousy issues between them and that's not cool. we've talked about it and we all agree we don't want to make this a regular occurrence. fun while it lasted, though!

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

well, we're all vicariously relieved/exhausted.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

What about #1 Crush? Is he up for sodomy tonight?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

he's gone back to CT. :( :( :(

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

Dude gives me funny feelings. Like, queasy high-school butterfly squee feelings. It's kinda freaking me out.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/images/cupid.png

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

Scary.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

Those arrows hurt, dude. Keep the flying baby archer away. :( :( :(

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

Dude gives me funny feelings. Like, queasy high-school butterfly squee feelings.

i love these

― impudent harlot, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

(um not to get all cuddlestein mtn or whatever)

― impudent harlot, Wednesday, 6 June 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sorry I broke the thread. Come back?

― Jesse, Thursday, 7 June 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

didn't i do that when i invoked c*ddl*st**n?

― impudent harlot, Thursday, 7 June 2007 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

What we talk about when we talk about love.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 7 June 2007 18:59 (eighteen years ago)

love is over: gay edition

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 7 June 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

Whenever I've done "love," it's always queasy HS butterfly squee. Iz dere otherkind?

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 7 June 2007 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

does bromance count as love?

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 7 June 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, don't mess up the gears w/ your confusing nonparadigmatic polyamories!

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 7 June 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

Hi from NC.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 7 June 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

like, Chapel Hill?

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 7 June 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

CT dude emailed me the pictures he took from that night. I can honestly say I've never seen myself like this before. They were hardly as bad as I feared, some shots are pretty good, but so many are so hilarious and not erotic at all.

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 8 June 2007 06:29 (eighteen years ago)

You know you have to post them now. All of them (though you're allowed the little black eye boxes if you want).

― Mark C, Friday, 8 June 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

nothing doing. if you email me nicely and chat me up on AIM you might get to see one of my choosing, but no way are those things going public.

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 8 June 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

Good choice.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 8 June 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

Elmo just wants more threesome candidates now that his original troika has dissolved.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 8 June 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

Update on neighbor (again): We talked yesterday, he moved, I went to his apartment, we slept together, I stayed over, we text each other in the evening and agree that we have to hang out without having sex. So it's settled, we're friends. That's fine by me.

Dude's got a nice apartment.

― Ivan, Friday, 8 June 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

Hi, Elmo.

No, Outer Banks. Or as the t-shirts say, Outer Banx.

I am more or less bored out of my mind here. But I'm avoiding family and reading Wittgenstein.

― Casuistry, Friday, 8 June 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

smoking clove cigarettes?

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 8 June 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

No, but I've been trying not to start drinking until at least 11am.

― Casuistry, Friday, 8 June 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

I think I've had enough group fun for a while.

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 8 June 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

If you have enough solo fun your average will even out again.

― Casuistry, Friday, 8 June 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

i went to splash last night :o

― impudent harlot, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:38 (eighteen years ago)

some dude tried lifting up my shirt and i'm pretty sure these b&t asshats were making fun of my (lack of) dancin skillz

― impudent harlot, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:38 (eighteen years ago)

also i heard "umbrella" twice (once in orig. form, one dance rmx)

― impudent harlot, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:40 (eighteen years ago)

Here in Miami we used to have a bar called Splash. It was my first "gay experience" many years ago: flanked by a girl and my straight best friend, we gawked at the revelers like Lindsey Lohan at the cafeteria in Mean Girls.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:42 (eighteen years ago)

haha we watched mean girls before going out

― impudent harlot, Friday, 8 June 2007 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

Well done Ivan, always good knowing the limits (also that doesn't sound like a closed door). Uh oh, I've just outed myself as a lurker on this thread. You all disgust me. Not really. Just Elmo and his group lovin' ways...

― kv_nol, Saturday, 9 June 2007 00:11 (eighteen years ago)

Ach, I feel bad now. Sorry Elmo.

― kv_nol, Saturday, 9 June 2007 00:13 (eighteen years ago)

kv, no problem! i am in fact aware that i am a libertine. haha

― elmo argonaut, Saturday, 9 June 2007 07:55 (eighteen years ago)

kjfdkjnfjgf getting fed up w/ guy(s), srsly

― impudent harlot, Saturday, 9 June 2007 08:01 (eighteen years ago)

Right so. Glad no offence caused. Back to lurking... (xpost)

― kv_nol, Saturday, 9 June 2007 10:21 (eighteen years ago)

who did "Umbrella"?

Brooklyn Pride today, which I will avoid except for mayb a late bar sweep.

― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 9 June 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, I can steal internet at my dad's house. Who knew? Thank you, neighbors!

― Casuistry, Saturday, 9 June 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

The local free weekly (here in Myrtle Beach) had, on one page, a guide to Pride, and facing it, a top ten list why Harleys are better than "crotch rockets" or whateverthehell those other types of "racing bikes" are called.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 9 June 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

those topics don't necessarily clash!

i've never gone to a pride thingy, mostly cus i assumed salt lake's would be a little pathetic. i was planning on scoping |_./\.'s this weekend but i'd be alone and i was already alone last night at a lame gay bar w/ lame people. thousands of weho fags i don't know + parking nightmares = suddenly not very appealing.

― strgn, Saturday, 9 June 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

I would so rather go to SLC's than LA's.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 9 June 2007 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

Also: You're in SLC?!

― Casuistry, Saturday, 9 June 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)

i moved. but now i'd rather go to slc's than la's too. i've heard there's usually a sideline protester or two. and a decent tranny bloc!

i'd rather BE in slc than l.a. right now. mountains. fuck this city.

― strgn, Saturday, 9 June 2007 22:16 (eighteen years ago)

wait you're from p0rtl4nd rite? m.b. vacation?

― strgn, Saturday, 9 June 2007 22:18 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, visiting dad and then going up to NYC for a while.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 9 June 2007 22:35 (eighteen years ago)

I had some friends who went to Gay Disney last weekend.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 9 June 2007 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

best hook-up ride:

a. pirates of the caribbean
b. small world
c. space mountain
d. splash mountain

― strgn, Saturday, 9 June 2007 23:07 (eighteen years ago)

The correct answer is Snow White's Scary Adventures, dear.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 9 June 2007 23:44 (eighteen years ago)

tru. it would have been fun to go and tote along a few j's. right now though i wish i was on a beach. instead i will clean. :(

― strgn, Saturday, 9 June 2007 23:50 (eighteen years ago)

Chicago's Pride parade is the 24th. I think I'm going with some people from work. Should be interesting!

― Ivan, Saturday, 9 June 2007 23:52 (eighteen years ago)

guys i'm not really sure where to post this, sorry

http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_159222541.html

(CBS 5) BERKELEY A Berkeley watchdog organization that tracks military spending said it uncovered a strange U.S. military proposal to create a hormone bomb that could purportedly turn enemy soldiers into homosexuals and make them more interested in sex than fighting.

― river wolf, Sunday, 10 June 2007 03:21 (eighteen years ago)

This device belongs in MY hands.

― Jesse, Sunday, 10 June 2007 04:00 (eighteen years ago)

everybody on your knees, it's time for cake and sodomy

― Jesse, Sunday, 10 June 2007 05:36 (eighteen years ago)

Imagine the spinoff technologies.

― Casuistry, Sunday, 10 June 2007 13:17 (eighteen years ago)

Imagine the bomb test site.

― Casuistry, Sunday, 10 June 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

Imagine cleaning up afterwards

― Stevie D, Sunday, 10 June 2007 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

this has already been achieved bomb-free w/ the US Navy.

― Dr Morbius, Sunday, 10 June 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

villagepeople.jpg

― impudent harlot, Sunday, 10 June 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

I made out with a 43 year old dude last night and we also did some serious cuddling and it was great.

― Jesse, Monday, 11 June 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

and you're surprised?

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 11 June 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

No. Do I seem surprised?

― Jesse, Monday, 11 June 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

All I want to do is make out with this guy for like 10 hours. Which is pretty much what I did last night--actually for like 3. I went to work on 1 hour of sleep and it SUUUUUUCKED.

― Jesse, Monday, 11 June 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

I thot the age ref indicated zurprize, but modern science has kept us quadragenarians in decent shape for Cuddlestein Mt.

I hope you both have good moisturizers.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 11 June 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

Kissing is the most Classic that ever was Classic, don't you agree?

Actually I was surprised by his age, b/c he looks much younger.

― Jesse, Monday, 11 June 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

Is that what you told him?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 11 June 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

biggest age gap i've known: 36 and 64

(both incredibly super nice - not to mention handsome - fellows)

― impudent harlot, Monday, 11 June 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

Weird, my message got erased.

OK, so he told me his age and I said, "No way," and right at that moment the lights came up in the bar and I said, "Oh wait, now I see what you mean." Fortunately he found that funny.

― Jesse, Monday, 11 June 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

I find it endearing when guys 'fess up to being chicken.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 11 June 2007 21:41 (eighteen years ago)

Like how?

― Jesse, Monday, 11 June 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

Gore Vidal: "I simply had no interest in anyone over 30."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 11 June 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

Wouldn't that be being into chicken?

― Casuistry, Monday, 11 June 2007 23:48 (eighteen years ago)

yeah. vidal is a hawk.

― the table is the table, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 00:14 (eighteen years ago)

so's Jesse!

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 00:16 (eighteen years ago)

What are you talking about? He just made out with a guy over ten years older than him.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 00:23 (eighteen years ago)

I am not really at all interested in a man under 25. 30 is ideal.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 04:52 (eighteen years ago)

the lights came up in the bar and I said, "Oh wait, now I see what you mean."

I'm sure you put it charmingly, but that's a tad Stanley Kowalski.

Years ago I vowed not to "date" [boy do I hate that word] anyone who didn't remember Nixon. Now, they just have to have heard of him. (Which still keeps the pool somewhat restrictive.)

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

Tell me that that is not really true.

Stanley Kowalski. Heh. I wish.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

I meant the cruel sadist part, not the Brando-hot-in-a-wifebeater aspect!

oh, I hadn't taken a walk west on Christopher Street in awhile til the other night, and a queer black teen said to me as his posse approached, "How YOU doin' tonight, Daddy? YEAH!"

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 13:59 (eighteen years ago)

I remember him from a decade ago when I was walking along Christopher Street! His name is Trevor but he has a fierce drag name, you can be sure.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 12 June 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

Also now I am in NYC. Hi!

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 01:49 (eighteen years ago)

hi!!

― impudent harlot, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 02:09 (eighteen years ago)

how long are you here for exactly?

― impudent harlot, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 02:10 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know. Weeks and weeks, give or take a few side trips. Perhaps until Labor Day.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 02:41 (eighteen years ago)

Hi! Still not gay, you guys.

― Mark C, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 10:11 (eighteen years ago)

fin

― strgn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 10:34 (eighteen years ago)

69 new answers

― strgn, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

Is that some sort of request, Mark?

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

Welcome back to the post-great era of yr hometown, Chris.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

I miss Boss Tweed.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

I just got a gym membership. I'm gonna try again for that elusive Gay Male Gym Body that I learned about in Judaism class.

― Jesse, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

Get your dick clipped yet?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

How is it different from the straight male gym body?

― Jordan, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

xpost, oh

― Jordan, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

It was clipped long ago, sadly.

According to a couple of classes where Judaism came up, the Gay Male Gym Body is what you get when a gay guy makes it his business to look as perfectly Adonis-like as possible, in a way that straight men never really did before. Since this started happening, straight men have begun to imitate the gay man's impersonation of the their impression of an ideal body.

I think it came up in conjunction with Judaism because being muscley and butch is seen as crass in Jewish culture where male "sissyness" is valued. Being physical is seen as "goyim naches," or goy games.

― Jesse, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)

This is what religion classes taught me and Courtney.

― Jesse, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

the true Biblical origin of Tom of Finland revealed!

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

i just went to go pee, and i had a few specs of glitter on my penis.
i thought of this thread.

― andi, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

http://i15.tinypic.com/68c7pko.jpg

^ i am "bi curious" it seems!

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

You're plain curious. (Notice the srt8 women never check us out.)

Being physical is seen as "goyim naches,"

and Samson?

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 14 June 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

btw there is a pornstar pie-eating contest at Folsom St East this weekend.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 15 June 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

"pornstar pie" = goatse?

― Mark C, Friday, 15 June 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

Greenpoint is the epicenter of gay?

― Jesse, Friday, 15 June 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

That looks more like the Bedford L to me.

Morbs, the only women who check me out are 30+ :(

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 15 June 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

WTF? 30+ are HOTT.

― Jesse, Friday, 15 June 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

So. NYCGAYLXFAP?

― Casuistry, Friday, 15 June 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

btw guys, the Bagdad Cafe in SF's Castro serves something called a Bear Omelet. Lots of meats.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:52 (eighteen years ago)

I still have yet to solidify travel plans, but I am definitely down for the June 29 - July 1 weekend

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

No one in Chicago the weekend of July 27?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

I might be there the following Mon & Tues, if I don't have to move.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

I'll likely be around, if my band isn't out of town.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

Excellent. I may have to participate in one of the 12 million Chicago threads to plan a FAP.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Oh hush, there's only one.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

I could visit Chicago, but my place to crash is moving to Brooklyn next week, so someone would have to offer some floor/couch/whatever.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

So, counterclockwise?

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

God, even my hair whorl is asexual.

― Eric H., Wednesday, 20 June 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe it just means you can't be measured by normal standards.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

LOL, look at that gay little throwing arm.

― Eric H., Wednesday, 20 June 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

http://nymag.com/news/features/gaydar070625_4_560.jpg

― Eric H., Wednesday, 20 June 2007 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

I'm clockwise. And too tired to read the entire article right now, but I will.

― Jesse, Thursday, 21 June 2007 03:11 (eighteen years ago)

I went to Pride yesterday and I guess here is where we talk about such things, but I already posted to the Chicago thread, so I'll just copy and paste.

yesterday was my first Pride ever. I have been to Southern Decadence but that's really different.

Here's how it went:

-I started the day in a ferocious funk of depression and irritability after my long week helping my mom move, but Courtney's friend Melissa's outrageously strong Jello shots took care of that.

-There was a parade. Melissa lives on Halsted at Cornelia, so we divided our time between there and the street. Inside Brokeback Mountain played on a continuous loop. That seems like a weird choice of movie to play at a celebration. Why not Priscilla Queen of the Desert or something that doesn't make you want to open a vein?

-Melissa's friend Colin picked up a guy within 15 minutes of the start of the parade and took him up to the apartment for some chaca-chaca.

-Courtney, Helen, and Melissa sat on the window sill, pouring beer on the cars below, and throwing grape tomatoes at the cars.

-Colin brought a bottle of '96 Dom Perignon. Once it was empty we filled it with beer and drank from it for the rest of the day.

-We went to the Cell Block and were given go cups, but then the parade ended, so we weren't allowed to take them out, so Melissa put 2 beers in the Dom bottle and off we went.

-We saw an approximately 20 foot tall Jewel shopping cart with a souped up motor speeding down Broadway and into the Jewel parking lot by Jenny and Jeff's house.

-We ate sushi at the restaurant whose name we can never remember.

-We saw Colin's boyfriend (not the guy he hooked up with) walking down the street holding another guy's hand. Melissa was outraged that Colin's boyfriend was apparently cheating on him.

-The ladies left and I went to the Cell Block and made out with a really hot 48 year old. I asked him if he had a boyfriend and sure enough, he did.

-I went to Little Jim's where I was talking to a 6'5" guy from Michigan but then another guy who I had never met before came up and said, "Let's get out of here." So we did.

-- Jesse, Monday, June 25, 2007 9:24 AM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

-Somewhere in there the 48 year old made the following proposition, "I wanna rape your mouth," and interestingly, it was not a bad thing to say.

― Jesse, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Were you proud?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

Hey Jesse, I think I'll use that last line on girls. They're sure to love it too!

I have gay hair! Or, uh, I would have gay hair if I wasn't so fucking bald ;_;

― Mark C, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

"I wanna rape your mouth"

!!o_0)))??????

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

highlight of pride for me: my wasted ex-bf punching me and then asking me why i cheated on him

― impudent harlot, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

(which happened in november, and we broke up in january)

― impudent harlot, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

Damn you, Jesse. And just damn, ih.

My hair is so, ummmm, straight (and unruly), I'm not sure it has a whorl pattern.

I've been over NYC Pride for eons, you couldn't drag me there, so yesterday I

1) went to Mass (which, it being at a 'prophetic' progressive parish in Chelsea, featured a really horrid pride hymn after Communion -- why is it no US liberation movement since black civil rights has had good music?)

2) went to a Romanian movie

3) attended the free Superchunk show in Brooklyn.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

Miami has no pride.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

why didn't you come to my party morbz :(

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

that we know, but no Gay Day?

sorry J0n (you troll) -- I got home from other things around 7 and was just exhausted (the G train not running past Hoyt didn't help).

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

whtvs, new bf and i had a "gay apathy parade" (ie slept until 2, smoked and watched tv)

i caught superchunk's last 3 songs + the encore (i did concede to going to metropolitan's bbq, got there before they even had the grill lit)

― impudent harlot, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

they light the grill when, 5:30-6?

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

that we know, but no Gay Day?

Nope. I'm sure the bars and clubs hosted their own events, but nothing like Jesse's Decameron. I did have a date on Saturday night, though. We saw Oceans 13. I really must learn not to (a) go to the movies on dates so that (b) when asked what I think of the movie, I don't rant. Movies are worse than Italian restaurants.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

yeah i got there at like 4

― impudent harlot, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

Damn you, Jesse. And just damn, ih.

Damn me why?

It must be just that I'm getting older, but that guy did NOT look 48. He could have passed for 33.

highlight of pride for me: my wasted ex-bf punching me and then asking me why i cheated on him

Did he punch you hard? In the face?

― Jesse, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1162/622518303_b20f0d308b.jpg?v=0
Feckin' cute cop! And funny t-shirt.

― Jesse, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1078/623324636_a787576ab4.jpg?v=0
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1004/622514379_89b41c8617_o.jpg

― Jesse, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

for getting action, silly.

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

kinda hard, in the chest, apropos of entirely nothing

― impudent harlot, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

I have a rad new (gay) roommate and we're going to do gayish stuff together. I mentioned new wave night @ the metro but any low key str8 bro friendly gayish scenes would be helpful.

He's quite the photographer and took like 300 pictures of our party sat night. Also typographer.

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

Ask elmo how to post pictures on this thread.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

J0n, is he over 30?

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

Wasn't able to make it to Pride, but sounds like it was decent. Maybe next year.

― Ivan, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

jon has a crush!

― remy bean, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

I would be completely confused by the tales of Colin and his bf if they weren't gay.

― Casuistry, Monday, 25 June 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

I'm trying to think what you mean.

― Jesse, Monday, 25 June 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

Did Melissa know that Colin had picked up a guy that morning when she got outraged by his bf holding hands with another guy?

― Casuistry, Monday, 25 June 2007 21:43 (eighteen years ago)

Yes. She said to him, "Don't do anything on my bed!"

― Jesse, Monday, 25 June 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)

xp damn that cop is cute

― Surmounter, Monday, 25 June 2007 21:48 (eighteen years ago)

No kidding. I saw another gorgeous cop today walking around a store with his partner. He had the Southside accent and he was dressed in jeans, t-shirt, boots, gun belt, and kevlar vest. He filled out those jeans in a muscley way. There is a picture to follow.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 01:14 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1234/626537456_da51994f83.jpg?v=0

This is a really sad substitute for how hot he was. I was surreptitiously taking pics of him, so unfortunately I cut him off at the head which was a fine looking head!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 02:01 (eighteen years ago)

Morbs: New roommate is 22 and bearish beardo. He seems to think a lot before he speaks and is a freelancer. He is sleeping right now across the living room. Is new wave night at the metro this weekend? I am up for going. Also maybe bring $girl if date goes well (tentative).

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 02:24 (eighteen years ago)

Also I may own manpris now and my dad made a homophobic remark about them u_u

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 02:30 (eighteen years ago)

the gay dude i work with at the hospital occasionally is one of the funniest/best ppl i've met here

apparently there used to be a gay bar in town?????!!!!!!1111

― river wolf, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 02:42 (eighteen years ago)

the gay dude i work with at the hospital occasionally is one of the funniest/best ppl i've met here

Occasionally it skips a generation.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 02:50 (eighteen years ago)

"Morbs: New roommate is 22 and bearish beardo. "

mmm pic?

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 03:25 (eighteen years ago)

My friend has manpris and he wore them today and they just look so so silly.

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 03:26 (eighteen years ago)

But he makes amazing brownies.

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 03:26 (eighteen years ago)

I am not posting my roommate's pix on ilx! But if you guys want to im me (ASL?) I will show you. W1Z4RD1SHUNGRY

convert to non leet speak

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 03:28 (eighteen years ago)

wait do cutoff dickies for biking = manpris???

― river wolf, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 03:48 (eighteen years ago)

no those are cutoff dickies for biking.

Dickies are only acceptable looking on me as cutoffs

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 06:03 (eighteen years ago)

I met my on/off friend/fling last night for a nightcap; he'd just given walking papers to the guy crushing on him for months. A couple of vodka tonics and one strenuous makeout later, attempting to assuage his debilitating insecurities, I made the terrible mistake of saying, "I've always loved you" which he interpreted as "I've always been in love with you."

With rue my heart is laden.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:21 (eighteen years ago)

So have you always loved him, or what?

― Casuistry, Saturday, 30 June 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

Loved yes, IN LOVE, no.

He sent a text message and wrote an email yesterday to thank me for my admission. I'm terrified.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 30 June 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

That sounds like the feeling (such as it is) isn't mutual.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 30 June 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

DAMAGE CONTROL, Alfred.

wtf are manpris?

yes JW, n.wave is at Metrop but I will be in bbq party in NJ today, who knows in what shape upon return (around midnight).

elmo is a blast (great laff).

― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 30 June 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

manpris = capri pants on men.

― Jesse, Saturday, 30 June 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

manpris = o.O

― Stevie D, Saturday, 30 June 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

elmo & I did "Do You Know the Way to San Jose" duet at impromptu Tuesday evening karaoke.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

yes we did. and it was truly magical.

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

I finally found something where i didn't sound like a wounded animal, or at least a dying one ("Sliver," "Try a Little Kindness" etc).

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 5 July 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

Awww.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

Casuistry is generally anti-karaoke, I think.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

dr. morbius, "aging heartthrob":

http://gawker.com/news/field-guide/the-four-types-of-new-york-karaoke-performers-275232.php

― impudent harlot, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

oh hey my team and i are HOSTING trivia next weds., if yall feel like competing

― impudent harlot, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

does that mean you're composing the Q's and answering them?

I'm afraid I'm more like the Atonal ~~Hipster~~ Heartthrob.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

we're coming up with the questions and are making everyone else answer them (and grading them etc etc)

― impudent harlot, Thursday, 5 July 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

I'd rather make the questions.

I'm pro-karaoke, but for others, not me.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 5 July 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

Hi everyone. Just checking in. I'm still gay.

― Jesse, Thursday, 5 July 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

Apparently, GAYLX Summit in Chicago at the end of this month?

― Casuistry, Friday, 6 July 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

Oh? I didn't know anything about this.

― Jesse, Friday, 6 July 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

no, not clear. The only reason I may go (if I don't move that week) is I'll be paying a ridiculou$ amount (late booking) to go to St. Louis first. The only other out-of-towner I've read is going is Alfred.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 6 July 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

My karaoke type is the guy who really gets cheesy into it singing Daft Punk's "One More Time" after five or six people have just finished singing slow country songs.

― Eric H., Friday, 6 July 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

I'm the type who explains to my table that no, really, I never heard that No Doubt song before.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

Did you sing at the karaoke bar we went to that one time, Eric? I don't remember. I did a Lindsay Lohan song.

― jaymc, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

I'll be there July 27-30. Prepare the karaoke.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

Where are you staying?

― jaymc, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

It's a family trip: visiting my sis' in-laws. A couple of my nights are free.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

I remember you singing that.

― Casuistry, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

I couldn't bring myself to sing that night, I remember. I did sing at the U Otter a few months later, tho. "Don't You Worry Bout a Thing."

― Eric H., Saturday, 7 July 2007 05:59 (eighteen years ago)

alfred, that makes me sad: that's when i'll be in nyc.

― remy bean, Saturday, 7 July 2007 07:38 (eighteen years ago)

I remember when shitty pop wasn't "cool."

― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 7 July 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

I know you're not talking about Stevie Wonder.

― Eric H., Saturday, 7 July 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, is this the same karaoke night? I don't remember meeting Eric.

This post may come back to haunt me.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 7 July 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

No, this was in Minneapolis.

― Eric H., Saturday, 7 July 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

... Minneapolis, France.

― Eric H., Saturday, 7 July 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, that was a Golden Girls reference for the gay thread.

― Eric H., Saturday, 7 July 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

Muy chevre.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 7 July 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

I have been through Minneapolis on the train but I have never stopped to savor its flavor.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 7 July 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

wow, I had a hot lunch today. And I don't mean the food.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

Don't use so much wasabi next time.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

I love "Don't You Worry Bout a Thing." Back in high school, I had a tape with "Don't You Worry," "Golden Lady," and "Too High" on it, courtesy the public library's copy of Innervisions. I don't know why I didn't just tape the whole album.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, Chris, when did you see *me* do karaoke?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

Lame karaoke doesn't make you gay, jmc.

He didn't have wasabi on him.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

Do tell.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

and jaymc, I'm assuming you know where the Hot Gay Chicago Karaoke is to be found, no?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)

Desafortunadamente, the only karaoke bars I've been to have had mixed clientele.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

btw you will be in town, no?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)

Yes!

― jaymc, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

Sarah's birthday party, live karaoke, you did some ladypop song, all the 20something blond girls at the next table wanted to jump your bones, but you had your own ladyfriend with you that night. Last time I was in Chicago, last fall.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah, I forgot you were there. I did "Since U Been Gone" (Kelly Clarkson).

Why can't I find that one photo of me with the microphone, on which Jon W. superimposed the words "This one's for all the ladies"?

― jaymc, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

all the 20something blond girls at the next table wanted to jump your bones

Riiiight.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 22:20 (eighteen years ago)

this thread needs more pictures of bones being jumped, seriously.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 22:24 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.website.com/yourimage.jpeg

― Jesse, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

Uh...That was a SFW bone-jumping.

http://www.website.com/yourimage.jpeg

― Jesse, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 23:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.gaypornblog.com/archives/gay-porn-webcast-danny-roddick-alex-chandler-gay-kiss-pic.jpg

Oh well, this will do.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 23:46 (eighteen years ago)

OMG jaymc they so did. They had to get out the mop to clean up all that ladyjuice.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 01:55 (eighteen years ago)

I know I'm on the right thread, because I know who that couple is ... are ...

― Eric H., Wednesday, 11 July 2007 02:57 (eighteen years ago)

Likewise. Dudetube is my window to the gay porn world.

― Ivan, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 03:17 (eighteen years ago)

Dudetube? I just looked that up. Am I missing something? I know (and love) Xtube.com....

― Jesse, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 03:55 (eighteen years ago)

Pornotube I used to like but it started being quirky with Firefox so I said fuck it.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 03:55 (eighteen years ago)

Tomorrow I'm going away for a Big Gay "Weekend." I hope to spend most of that weekend naked in a hot redhead.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 03:56 (eighteen years ago)

Dudetube is just some guy that posts videos from Xtube/Pornotube, with other extra crap. Some comic book stuff, pop culture stuff, and porn stuff. I generally really enjoy the videos he posts.

― Ivan, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 03:59 (eighteen years ago)

Porn is so boring.

the only karaoke bars I've been to have had mixed clientele.

Thankk Christ... oh, the dirty looks I got for doing "Lithium" at the DC fag karaoke.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 13:38 (eighteen years ago)

not a "Papa Don't Preach" kind of cat, are you?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know if I agree that porn is boring. I mean a glass of water could be called boring too, but when you're thirsty, it hits the spot.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

I like porn, so I was gonna say -- porn is NOT boring! But on reflection, I guess I do find a lot of porn boring, mostly because there's rarely any connection or chemistry between the performers at all; faking is not sexy.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

Calling them "performers" sort of adds to that.

I have more opinions about porn but few that I'm willing to share online. (Also, I wasn't aware of Pornotube or Dudetube, but I've found some decent stuff on Youporn.)

― jaymc, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

I just can't get into voyeurism if the men look like types I almost universally find loathsome in real life. Weird, I know. Did you ever see the '60s/70s porn features where there's actual plot and character that is more than perfunctory?

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

also, extended close-up shots of penetration are tedious, not sexy.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

"an industrial film covered in fur"

(who am I quoting?)

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

EXTENDED close-ups of penetration are tedious.

One thing I like about porn is it gives me a chance to experience things that I think are hot and raunchy, but that I would not want to do, e.g., ass-to-mouth, heavy cum swapping.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

I'm trying to think of other things that I think are both hot/raunchy AND which I would not be interested in.... I'm having a little trouble with that list.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

Ooops. What I meant was "AND which I would not actually do."

― Jesse, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

I'm trying to think of other things that I think are both hot/raunchy AND which I would not be interested i

Tacos.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

WOOF!

― Jesse, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

I knew Jesse would come through.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know what you're talking about.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

I just meant that you'd, you know, address the topic frankly! Whereas I am definitely not going to debate one or two of your specific points, much as I'd like to.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

DR. MORBIUS, ARE YOU INTO HEAVY CUM SWAPPING OR AREN'T YOU???????????????

― Jesse, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

If I come to Chicago I'll tell you!

("swapping" ... like, in jars?)

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

like baseball cards or pokemons....

― Jesse, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

not like felching?

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, felching, but also snowballing. Felching (in porn) is iffy territory for me--kinda hot, kinda ewww.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

I have, like, many gay friends on ILX.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

xpost I can't believe I'm having this conversation on the internet.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

we can stop now! I will look up snowballing on my own.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

Remember the movie Clerks?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

I saw it in '95, so barely.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

When I watch porn (about one or twice a week, if that), it's mostly amateur porn. I'm not fond of the plotless, characterless, extended-penetration-shot rife porn. With amateur porn, there's really none of that. No posturing that there is any sort of depth, just straight-up wank material.

― Ivan, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

Word to that.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

When I was like 13 I read Tales of the City by Armistead Maupin, and was totally into this. I get so nostalgic about it all the time. Does anyone else have those "insight into gay life" like gay movies or anything from when they were younger that can still make them all mushy and stuff?

― I know, right?, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, hey! I forgot to mention that I am going to attend a GAY WEDDING! My first!

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

Where?

― I know, right?, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)

it's in CT. not an actual legal marriage service, as far as I know but a wedding nonetheless.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 23:08 (eighteen years ago)

for sure.

― I know, right?, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 23:13 (eighteen years ago)

My only imagination of gay weddings is exactly like Keith and David's in Six Feet Under.

― I know, right?, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 23:15 (eighteen years ago)

Does anyone else have those "insight into gay life" like gay movies or anything from when they were younger that can still make them all mushy and stuff?

I suppose Proust doesn't count.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 23:20 (eighteen years ago)

It depends on what age you were. I just had this idea of gay life I suppose in all its fuzzy cuteness, that those books gave me, and I was wondering if other people had similar relationships to books or movies or anything like that when they were younger. This romantic ideal that looks so cute and clueless now in hindsight.

― I know, right?, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 23:31 (eighteen years ago)

my Proust was Paul Lynde in the center square

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 July 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

There are a few specific moments in specific books or movies that I remember mushily I guess. There's basically only one "gay novel" that I read during my "gay culture intake" phase that I would bother with again -- David Feinberg's Eighty-Sixed -- and there are lots of little details of "gay life" from that book that I still think of from time to time. Although it is not quite the fuzzy cuteness book that you're describing.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 12 July 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

Also I've only been to lesbian weddings, not gay weddings.

Well, I've been to straight weddings too, they're also nice.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 12 July 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

I have Eighty Sixed on my shelf, haven't gotten to it (bought it way after pub).

QUENTIN CRISP: Marriage is a mistake. A shared territory will cramp your style in the end.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 July 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

See also John Waters's "summer boyfriend" meme.

Eighty-Sixed is a pretty quick-n-easy read but I have no idea if you'd like it. The first half is set in 1980 and is a light and fun romp; the second half is set in 1986 and is, as you might imagine, no fun at all.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 12 July 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

I went to a lesbian wedding in a synagogue a few years ago.

― jaymc, Thursday, 12 July 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

Also, I was reminded recently, when someone on the Chicago thread mentioned "cornhole" (which is apparently the name of a completely non-sexual game?), that I read Edmund White's A Boy's Own Story when I was 16 or so.

― jaymc, Thursday, 12 July 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.kinnisondesign.com/images/cornhole_shirt_large.gif

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

Also, the Christopher Street piers (and vicinity) are NOTHING like I remember them as being.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 12 July 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

The Christopher Street peers are exactly as I remember, though.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 12 July 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

Why can't I find that one photo of me with the microphone, on which Jon W. superimposed the words "This one's for all the ladies"?

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9452/ladies2zz.jpg

Not sure why I have a drowning witch on my hand.

― jaymc, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

I hope you don't mind me posting on your thread so much, GayLXors. A note, though:

Isn't J0HN M CUNN1NG H4M BI-CURIOUS?????
-- JW (ex machina), Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:08 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

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Is it still considered "curious" if you've actually had dudes' dicks in your mouth?
-- jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:12 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

― jaymc, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, that's curious, it's just not "straight-acting."

Chris, you mean with bike paths and all?

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

I'm looking forward to learning about the subtleties of his sexuality.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, with landscaping. And not sketchy.

I mean it's nice and all but it's not what it I grew up with.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

jaymc, of course you're welcome. any guy who likes dick should be welcome here.

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

Wha, I thought "straight-acting" was gay guys who didn't look or act like stereotypes?

― jaymc, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

Yay, Elmo. :)

― jaymc, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

any guy who likes dick should be welcome here.

OUR MOTTO. SET IT IN NEON – MAUVE OR FUSCHIA PREFERABLY

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

In my experience, "straight-acting gay man" is its own stereotype.

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

hello. last night i walked to the deli, and a cute man with blond hair did a really fun double take as i walked in.

he even got his friends, a decidedly attractive bunch, to fashion a glance over at me.

that made me feel good. the end.

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

If you loathe professional sports, elmo, you're automatically a straight-acting gaymale.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:34 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

I think Queer Theory 101 posits that swishing or smoking Camel Lights is no more "gay" than liking NASCAR and Westerns is "straight." All mutable constructs.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

the whole straight acting school is bizarrely annoying.

i didn't know camel lights was a gay thing... i thought that was just like a college thing

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)

Well, especially considering there area a ton of gay NASCAR fans.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

Don't make me link to the gay sports discussion board. (I'm almost as hated there as I am on Noise.)

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

Surmounter, I am disappointed. Your story should have gone on longer and involved more nudity with blond dude & friends. Work on that. :)

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:39 (eighteen years ago)

Elmo teaches by example.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

LEARN BY DOING.

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

I think quoting Queer Theory 101 is pretty gay, mutable construct or not.

― Eric H., Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

How is Camel Lights a gay thing? In my (mostly straight) circles, it's probably the most popular brand I see people smoke, a default for people who aren't particular about their cigarettes.

― jaymc, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

Since when are gay men particular?

― Casuistry, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

Don't make me link to the gay sports discussion board.

outsports.com?

The only time I've been there was to read about ~~Doug Glanville~~that closeted baseball player who was dating the editor of Out.

― jaymc, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

Scandalous.

― Eric H., Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

I could be wrong on the Camels, I just noticed for awhile it was the only brand I ever saw in bars (before the ban). Now I'm never around smokers.

Doug Glanville, mmmm

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

lol elmo, well, i do have other stories to share =P

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

What you did just there is not, technically, sharing.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

at least not "sharing with the class"

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha

well i'm waiting for the stories to share themselves, class

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

true tales have their own timing =P

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

hi everyone.

― Stevie D, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

what's shakin in Jersey?

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:06 (eighteen years ago)

not too much.

― Stevie D, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

Camel Lights = pretentious Lucky Strikes

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

rly i always felt the Luckies are kind of pretentious these days, no? kinda like em in any event.

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

has anyone ever seen a man smoke virginia slims? The thought is funny to me.

― Stevie D, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

i mean i definitely HAVE u know, but i've never had a pack... bummed em

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

or a capri... actually this is really not a bad idea. it would feel more healthy huh?

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:17 (eighteen years ago)

Virginia Slims taste of womankind.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

well that's of no fun to us gays

― Stevie D, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

on that note-- large, sassy black women: c/d?

― Stevie D, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

lol lol

actually i'm friends with a skinny sassy black woman here at work. she's like, not large

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

do you hafta ask?

This is Oprah's problem (if she has any) -- not enough sass or largeness.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

true O could use more sass

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

The faggotry on this thread today is totally out of hand. Never in high June!

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

(I am singing the Pointer Sisters' "Automatic" rather loudly at my desk)

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

lordy ; )

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

Love the green shirt you were kickin' in the July pic thread.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

I am going to a museum roundtable on 1947-57 New York baseball at 6:30, I hope I meet their faggotry quota.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 July 2007 19:55 (eighteen years ago)

aww shucks thx ; )

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

i kinda feel like an outsider among outsiders here, being from the UK, but i'm still reading.

btw, surmounter you are very pretty.

― jed_, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

Bearish glossary (bottom of page)

It's UK, but they're more fastidious about definitions.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

right jed?

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

Pandabear - a bear of East Asian descent.

wow.

― Eric H., Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

what's a bear of West Asian descent? endangered?

― Eric H., Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

Fetishized.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

More jed pls.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

Camel lights are in no way pretentious, you are dead wrong.

― remy bean, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

If there's an animal logo, it's pretentious.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

Morbs, i don't know much about bears! Casuistry thanks.

― jed_, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

aww thx Jed ;-)

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

let me break it down for you.

not pretentious:
http://bestuff.com/images/images_of_stuff/210x600/camel-lights-34110.jpg

pretentious:
http://213.189.222.60/04429.JPG

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

hell, i smoke GPCs that i order by color.

― remy bean, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:51 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.idambae.com/good_images/NA00100001m.gif

― Casuistry, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

i don't even kno if the Kamels deserve the label "pretentious"
it's just damn gaudy

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah, why isn't there an animal name for guys who fetishize smoking? Cigars esp. ewwww.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:56 (eighteen years ago)

pretentious:

http://queenloana.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/gitanes.JPG

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/10846465/French_Cigarettes_Gauloises_Blondes.jpg

― remy bean, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

gitanes are pretty cool tho ; )

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think any cigarette is necessarily pretentious, I'm just saying that Camel Lights are generally ubiquitous and unassuming. Luckies do have a boosted retro chic working for them, but they also happen to be particularly tasty.

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

i smoked those "mellow" camels last night. gay: y/n?

― impudent harlot, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

Hell, at least I don't smoke a pipe. Anymore.

Mellow Camels: v. gay

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

to be fair i only had one that i bummed (from a GURL) (figure that one out, queer theorists)

i reg. smoke camel lights

― impudent harlot, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

otm re: the camels/strikes, elmo

camel wides?

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

i'm mildly disturbed by camel wides tho i don't know why

― impudent harlot, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

*makes preemptive "but you've had wider things in yr mouth" joke before anyone else can*

― impudent harlot, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

oh, sometimes I will go in for a pack of camel filters or wides or whatever because i am a sucker for the insidiously appealing ART PACKS. pretty! oo.

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

Fag.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:12 (eighteen years ago)

Guys please, you're all fags.

― Eric H., Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

we smoke'em too, apparently.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

the wides are pretty disturbing

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

too wide = inconvenient

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

i love this packaging

http://www.tobaccoonline.co.uk/images/products/1010200430610PMDunhill-22.gif

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

CAMEL WIDES:

http://www.chromalark.com/images/big_fat_delicious.jpg

JUST PUT 'EM IN YOUR MOUTH ALREADY AND START SUCKIN'

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

dunhills be tasty.

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

faggiest ever:

http://www.natsherman.com/images/browse/L_62.jpg

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

omg YES

that's my birthday cigarette

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

come on those are actually like beautiful, in a totally valid way =P

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

i misread that as

come on those are actually like beautiful, in a totally vahid way =P

― remy bean, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

oh, they are the acme of spiffy product development and packaging design, but i don't really have the requisite coquettish flair to actually smoke them

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)

like, i would need a 14" ebony cigarette holder w/ nickel mouthpiece to smoke those

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

and a silk scarf

― remy bean, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

right. it's a bit easier to pull off when you're like 19 at vassar college, surrounded by insecurity cleverly disguised as coquettish flair.

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

v oscar wilde

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)

are those Nat Shermans cigarettes or chalk?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

Who else has never smoked besides me?

Lips that touch tobacco shan't touch mine. (lying)

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

haha, i kind of regret not having any pictures of my Wilde costume from last halloween. but it's probably better, since i've lost like 50lbs since. :/

i didn't have a cigarette holder, but i did have a violet ascot & mother of pearl cufflinks & a silver-topped cane, ha.

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

never never?! impressed

50 pounds! damn girl

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:35 (eighteen years ago)

it's a thin line between wilde and capote -- where angels dare to tread

― remy bean, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

Forster too.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

i think every major artistic collective should have at least one grand dame queer in that mold. at the very least it makes for a more interesting PBS special.

― remy bean, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

In the biopic the straight actior playing said queen would be the one to get the Oscar nomination.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

"Woof! - a greeting sometimes used when a Bear spots another Bear in public and wants to express physical attraction. He might make a growling noise ("Grrr!") or say "Woof!""

does this ever, EVER really happen?

― Stevie D, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:08 (eighteen years ago)

also how do we feel about http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ms/thumb/e/e5/Djarum-blacks-kretek.jpg/250px-Djarum-blacks-kretek.jpg's?

― Stevie D, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

Is that coffee or deodorant?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)

uhh that would be a clove cigarette.

― Stevie D, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:26 (eighteen years ago)

So a few months ago Chicago opened up this new "tobacco lounge" called Marshall McGearty's. I finally checked it out the other week and at first thought it was pretty awesome: it feels v. European, a cafe/bar with lots of retro furniture. They also have their own line of cigarettes, with about a dozen exotic varities (like Earl Grey) on sale for $10/pack. There's a ventilation system that filters the air regularly, so it never actually feels all that smokey inside.

Anyway, I was enjoying a Camel Light on a sofa near the window when one of their employees came over and wanted to conduct a survey, and foolishly, I agreed -- before noticing that he's got one of those electronic devices that scans your driver's license and sells the info to marketers everywhere. I still ended up with a free pack of cigarettes, even though I kind of chickened out of the survey, and they're definitely nice, but later I learned that the whole place is an arm of RJ Reynolds, which just leaves a bad taste in my mouth altogether.

― jaymc, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:30 (eighteen years ago)

yum earl Gray

um, so i was in a gay chat room (shutup) and some guy said like "X screename, woof!" - i'm forgetting what the person's screename was who he was talking to

anyway so i look at the picture of this man he's saying woof too, and thinking about it now, he was def a bear. at the time i thought he was making fun of him, but i guess it's just the lingo

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:37 (eighteen years ago)

i like the Blacks, btw.

oh and i just got a raise!

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:38 (eighteen years ago)

uhh that would be a clove cigarette.

Um, I'm aware of it, but that's a gross picture.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:49 (eighteen years ago)

lol with cloves seductively placed around the pack and cigarettes

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 22:52 (eighteen years ago)

Yes but like in person? Do people randomly "woof" each other at bars or in the streets?

And I also asked Casuistry this (and he says "no") but is it safe to assume that most, if not all, somewhat stocky middle-aged bearded men who unbutton their top button or two to show off their chest hair are gay bears? I'd totally think so...

― Stevie D, Thursday, 12 July 2007 23:10 (eighteen years ago)

In Miami most people speak Spanish; instead of "woof" it's "guau."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 23:15 (eighteen years ago)

or italian

(xpost)

― remy bean, Thursday, 12 July 2007 23:16 (eighteen years ago)

um i dunno, i mean, i would never feel compelled to like Woof at someone, even though I'm actually a really good barker...

― Surmounter, Thursday, 12 July 2007 23:26 (eighteen years ago)

The worst I've done is growl.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 23:30 (eighteen years ago)

I have mostly seen ironic woofs, so to speak.

Remy, if you're still reading this: Have you seen Brand Upon The Brain! yet? Because it made me think of you (or ideas you've brought up on ILX that are not irrelevant to this thread).

― Casuistry, Friday, 13 July 2007 00:56 (eighteen years ago)

wow, it looks great!

― remy bean, Friday, 13 July 2007 01:44 (eighteen years ago)

i've seen it!! Is v v good.

― Stevie D, Friday, 13 July 2007 01:59 (eighteen years ago)

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/347/638e1xr6.jpg

Martha Wash says "CARRY ON, BABYCHILD"

― Stevie D, Friday, 13 July 2007 03:02 (eighteen years ago)

Pls report back after you've seen it. I really liked it, but I'm a Maddin sucker.

― Casuistry, Friday, 13 July 2007 03:07 (eighteen years ago)

i missed it in LA :(

― remy bean, Friday, 13 July 2007 03:15 (eighteen years ago)

Jesus Christ, I leave town/internet for a day and there is a gayLXplosion.

hello. last night i walked to the deli, and a cute man with blond hair did a really fun double take as i walked in.
he even got his friends, a decidedly attractive bunch, to fashion a glance over at me.
that made me feel good. the end.
-- Surmounter, Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:33 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

PIC, PLZ!

Re Cigs

-I smoke very infrequently, but when I do, it's Camel Lights. It has nothing to do with trendiness, I just really like the taste--Marlboro Lights taste thinner/less rich and chemically, as do Parliaments.

-I had never thought of them as a gay brand. Nor a trendy brand either, until someone mentioned it a year or so ago.

-My first kinda-boyfriend-thing smoked VA Slims sometimes. He was the most effeminate goth-lite you ever saw. Usually he smoked Doral Menthol Lights though, until one day he switched to non-menthols.

― Jesse, Friday, 13 July 2007 11:32 (eighteen years ago)

-Nat Sherman Fantasias are amazing because, just as advertised on the package, they taste the same when put out and relit as they do fresh out of the package.

Re "Woof"

-I don't know about using it as a "bear call" but I have heard guys say this about another guy. I don't recall if they were bears.

― Jesse, Friday, 13 July 2007 11:43 (eighteen years ago)

I was in a mall in Georgetown yesterday when a decent-looking guy walked out of a store, made eye contact with me, looked right at my crotch, went back to my eyes and smiled. Does it make me desperate for approval that I felt sort of good about his objectification of my pkg? (I checked, and the pkg. was looking rather good :) )

― Jesse, Friday, 13 July 2007 11:45 (eighteen years ago)

Little did he know that it was only because I had just shoplifted a lobster.

― Jesse, Friday, 13 July 2007 11:48 (eighteen years ago)

Was the lobster sitting on your dick?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 July 2007 12:50 (eighteen years ago)

Lobster is the new cucumber.

Do people randomly "woof" each other at bars

Not randomly, but horny men say amazing things to each other. And just bcz there's irony involved doesn't make it less sincer/icky/astounding. (Like the guy who imitated Scarlett O'Hara while we were en flagrante.)

I would be up for more Brain! discussion (where da Maddin thread). He is the gayest str8 filmmaker of the moment.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 13 July 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

In that movie I was talking about some of the dialog seemed really, like, heartfelt, or from the gut or something--anyway, one guy said "yeh, cum on him, I need it, I'm hungry." (emphasis mine)

It was the sort of thing that might get said, but it could also be a sort of funny non-sequitir, along the lines of: "Oh yeh, do it, do it, [other hot sexy talk]. Nice weather, huh?"

― Jesse, Friday, 13 July 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, no it does not make you desperate for approval! He made eye contact and smiled, so it sounds like it was a genuine enthusiastic appraisal. Would have been much worse if he had sneakily ogled your crotch sidelong and then tried to avoid eye contact and been all crepey.

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 13 July 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

also, LOL "shoplifting a lobster" now added to crotch descriptor lexicon

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 13 July 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

smuggling a salmon

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 13 July 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

codpiece

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 13 July 2007 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

Imagine the stink.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 July 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

omg

Jesse wat u want a pic of (xp)?

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse puts a fish in his pants to smell like the big girls ;-)

― Stevie D, Friday, 13 July 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

this weekend is a good weekend, i think, for crotch-watching. also, butts.

... which reminds me, i need to get another pair of sunglasses. (i had a cheapo pair of red wayfarers that got passed around & lost at the club last night, prob'ly smashed to smithereens under dancin' feet)

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 13 July 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

omg i just got this pair of huge black Guesses - definitely a little too RoboCopish.

my BF is having his birthday party at the Brooklyn Bridge Park visiting beach tomorrow, so i have some major shopping to do: yellow swimshorts, brown shades and some bling.

gotta play glamorous girlfriend

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

btw, xp, totally agreed re: marlboros and parliaments. thin and chemically

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

Post pictures.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

I quit for a couple years and when I took it up again, I smoked Marlboro Ultra-Lights. But I also kept bumming Camel Lights when I was out from my friend Renee, and after a while, I had to admit they tasted better, so I switched.

― jaymc, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

Sur, what manner of bling? I can never decide on jewlery, though I love browsing the cheapo import store here. I normally go without. I'd like to wear something nice & understated, tho, but I haven't seen any silver pieces I like.

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.incompetech.com/gallimaufry/cigarette/camel_light.jpg

Camel Light: The Official Cigarette of the Gay ILX Community

― Stevie D, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

i dunno i have to browse... i have a left ear piercing, so something there. maybe a silver hoop? never really tried the hoop, always did the stud thing. i want something glitzy tho, and something on my neck or wrist.

if i could have a shimmery diamond bracelet on my arm i would die

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

Something like this?

http://www.mysticowl.net/Images/Index-Images/Stevie_113_no.jpg

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

lol but cheap and understated is nice too ; ) i tend to be a supporter of gaudy glam

HAHAH well, maybe for the after party!

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

haha Sur you should rock a single oversized bamboo hoop, you would be my hero

http://i16.ebayimg.com/04/i/000/a0/24/d751_1.JPG

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

omg, only with a cigarette holder, fantasia and a huge martini

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

i tend to buy cheap accessories out of necessity because i am careless and lose / break shit all the time (q.v. sunglasses). i can't have nice things. :(

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

oh geez i'm a big lose/breaker

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

I don't accessorize. (I do hv prescrip shades from last job's health plan)

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

WELFARE QUEEN

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

!!DO THE RICKIE VASQUEZ!!

http://www.mscl.com/pictures/rickie/cap0005.jpg

http://www.mscl.com/pictures/rickie/cap0088.jpg

― Stevie D, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

OMG awful, even tho i luv him.

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

I id'd more with B Krakow

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

I have a nifty scribbly wrist cuff I got from Etsy that i wear every now and then, but other than that (and a facial piercing) I do not rly accessorize either.

― Stevie D, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

I'm about 3/4 thru the entire run of the show. I don't know if I really id with any of them. I absolutely adore Rayanne though. And Sharon; I love how they become sorta pals towards the end.

― Stevie D, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

The only glittering prize I like to exhibit is beneath my cock.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

that episode with Juliana Hatfield is THE WORST

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

glittering prize wtf

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

yes, i love how sharon and rayanne get to be pals later on, so sweet. i've always identified with rayanne, having been the party kid back in the day. we should dig up the favorite angela chase quotes thread soon ; )

krakow's hot.

omg i was just listening to juliana. okay that's not the BEST episode but it still doesn't suck, for melodramatic moral-driven schmaltz.

lol i know alfred, wow =P

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

"I FROZE"

xpost

no "Prince Alfred"?

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

drinking Sprite Zero now and eating a piece of Tomato and Garlic pizza, which is great except not for the beach tomorrow. just FYI

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

I've been meaning to ask you guys about that British soap opera Hollyoaks. A friend send a YouTube link saying, "omigod best gay drama EVER" and it turned out to be a half season's worth of attenuated variations on Brokeback Mountain, except I'm always in awe that British kids get to drink beer in a high school drama.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:39 (eighteen years ago)

never seen Brokeback... crime or fine?

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

tame

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

yuck

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:44 (eighteen years ago)

You should read the Morbs-Alfred BBM stand-off which held ILX hostage for a few weeks.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, I couldn't quit you.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

ha...

um, just had a very bizarre work experience. this guy kept emailing and blaming his cat for losing his Membership card. so i was like, okay? i'll get you another one. but he like kept talking about the cat, saying he was gonna bring her in so we could let her play with all the Membership cards here (i know totally bizarre). anyway he just came in to get his replacement card and he bought me a canoli. and hugged me twice. bizarre!

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

hugged me twice

boundary issues!

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

ha i know!

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

i used to be an inappropriate hugger, but i was an awkward sophomore in high school and those days are LONG GONE, jeez louise thank goodness

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 13 July 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

well is he hot?

The Juliana Hatfield episode was wonderful up until the very very last second, where she flies away and her wings fly in front of the camera; that was painful and without a doubt the worst moment in MSCL history. I mean, it was totally predictable from the very beginning and everything, but apart from the wing thing it was good!

Oh I also like the lady opening the restaurant. She's swell.

Also none of the ppl on mscl are really hot. At all, really.

― Stevie D, Friday, 13 July 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

oh, Jared Leto has only declined since.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 13 July 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

oh she's great, lowenthal right? sally lowenthal? no, what was her name?

come on! jordan SO HOT, ANGELA so hot, rayanne so hot, sharon so hot, brian i'd hit it, GRAHAM! PATTY SO HOT

THEY're all effin hotTT!

oh and no he wasn't good looking. o gez it's friday the 13th, weirdness...

lol an inappropriate hugger huh? the appropriate factor really just depends on who it is...

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)

Hollyoaks is bad, poorly made teen/young adult soap drama. But I don't watch it enough to know what the gay deal is.

― Mark C, Friday, 13 July 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

except I'm always in awe that British kids get to drink beer in a high school drama.

Kids on The O.C. drink all the time. Marissa spent long stretches of that show with a flask in her purse. They also seem to be able to get into bars or order drinks at restaurants without getting carded, which I guess makes sense when they're also for some reason able to bartend while underage (cf. Alex in Season 2, Ryan at the beginning on Season 4).

― jaymc, Friday, 13 July 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

Blame my poor TV watching habits. I still remember when Aaron Spelling had to turn Dylan into a Byronic alkie to keep him away from bars.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 July 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse wat u want a pic of (xp)?

Whatever it was your admirer was admiring. Unless it's not something you feel you should post online. In which case, your face.

― Jesse, Friday, 13 July 2007 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

I just realized that earlier I referenced a post that I never made in the first place.

I saw a Tr3asur3 |sl@nd Medi@ porn and recognized one of the guys as he plowed away. He is the door guy at my local gay sport bar. It's odd to see him in that context, and to see BIG UNCUT WANG. In case you didn't know, TIM movies are very....uninhibited.

― Jesse, Friday, 13 July 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, Jesse that's pretty amazing. I've never knowingly met a porn actor.

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 13 July 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

Though one of my friends has recounted to me a v. disturbing "live show" / autograph signing by J3ff P4lm3r. I still shudder to think of it.

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 13 July 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

Live show? He was just dancing (and maybe playing with his junk), right?

― Jesse, Friday, 13 July 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)

uh... no.

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 13 July 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

Can I just tell you, that I'm as fed up with men as I am enthralled by them? I spent a couple of days with a guy, and I just don't understand at all how other people work. Why do I always wind up with men who send mixed signals? When it wasn't an option, I got a lot of, "I'm so worked up, I want you so bad" but when we got back home that stopped and was replaced by hanging-out behaviors.

I got something kind of similar from an ex as well--I would try to initiate sex, but he would turn me down, so I began to just ask; his response was, "You just need to TAKE CHARGE and take me." But if I did that, most of the time his response was that I was being too pushy.

MEN!

― Jesse, Friday, 13 July 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

xpost, over myself kvetching:

Where the hell do you get a live sex show? Is it underground?

― Jesse, Friday, 13 July 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

I am SO sexually frustrated right now, and I have over 6 hours of travelling to do. Mile High Club, please accept me today :(

― Jesse, Friday, 13 July 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

I honestly don't know how it came about, but (as the story goes) that everyone who got an autograph from Mr. P4lm3r also got to suck his dick for however long it took for him to sign the poster. I mean, holy gross.

― elmo argonaut, Friday, 13 July 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)

I'm as fed up with men as I am enthralled by them

dude, yer wise in your generation.

Here, fed up > enthralled

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 13 July 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

I'm at that point that I sometimes reach where I am at wit's end. What I want is NOT that complicated--I want to get along reasonably well with someone, have fun, be nice to each other, laugh, have mutual attraction, have hot sex, and just maybe, if it were to work out this way, actually care about the other person, and vice versa.

Why the fuck does being human suck sometimes.

At least there's food and wine to make up for interpersonal relations! :)

― Jesse, Friday, 13 July 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)

very much feelin' jesse's last few posts

― impudent harlot, Friday, 13 July 2007 22:25 (eighteen years ago)

At least there's food and wine to make up for interpersonal relations! :)

And Proust.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 13 July 2007 22:30 (eighteen years ago)

being a human sucks because we all have to think. it's our very own little prison.

and btw too many mixed signals are not that exciting, they're just a sign to move on, ya know?

okay so i did a little bling shopping, u know, on my own terms =P

http://s56.photobucket.com/albums/g192/rrawn/?action=view¤t=Photo5.jpg

that choker is CRAZY, the pic really doesn't do it justice. and i got a gold ring. okay so picture it, yellow trunks (small), those glasses, a smile and a fag (both kind). good beach ensemble?

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 22:45 (eighteen years ago)

aww, k i'll try it again

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 22:46 (eighteen years ago)

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g192/rrawn/Photo5.jpg

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

ha. okay so yes i need to shave

― Surmounter, Friday, 13 July 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

eww asshole at neighborhood bar sucked tonite. excelsior. ur supposed to be like, not hip, to go there. stupid fags.

― Surmounter, Saturday, 14 July 2007 05:57 (eighteen years ago)

The mixed signals...I only just met this guy recently. We met online and have been talking for a long time (he's been traveling so we couldn't meet earlier) and I think maybe he was being shy?

The thing is, we clicked as soon as we met and he did a lot of talking, but when it comes to action, he is not living up to his talk. Looking at things without the lens of sexual frustration and self-doubt I think he might be a little nervous? Who knows. I talked to him later and he was really sweet and complimentary. There's a conversation gonna hafta happen.

You know what's odd? He's 6'4" and a bottom and has mostly dated guys my height (5'6") and shorter.

― Jesse, Saturday, 14 July 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

DO NOT SHAVE!! Embrace your inner woof!

― Stevie D, Saturday, 14 July 2007 18:42 (eighteen years ago)

Surmounter, Excelsior used to be among my nabe bars til last year. I love the owners, but on weekends the clientele are increasingly not worth a visit.

― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 14 July 2007 18:49 (eighteen years ago)

I'd like to embrace a wolf.

― Jesse, Saturday, 14 July 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

word, the clientele sucked. management did seem very friendly, though, actually.

stevie maybe u should stick it out for a bit then, sounds like he's just confused/sweet?

i am so sunburned.

― Surmounter, Saturday, 14 July 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g192/rrawn/Photo5.jpg

LOL, people who can wear groovey bling neckwear to the beach. AKA people who live in real cities AKA people who do not live here

― I know, right?, Saturday, 14 July 2007 23:31 (eighteen years ago)

looks beautiful tho

honestly, i'm not used to the whole beach thing. i totally didn't even put on sunscreen til the very end. and i ended up having to wear those really short american apparel bathing suit things? intense. i feel like drugged from it. i really don't know how often i could do that. maybe a lot, actually...

BTW correction JESSE ur the guy with the new beau, not Stevie. it's the "ee" sound thing

― Surmounter, Saturday, 14 July 2007 23:37 (eighteen years ago)

LOL I got confused and thought you were saying the picture of yourself looked beautiful. It is very nice though. On the other hand, Limerick may be a lot of things but beautiful it is not.

Lying in the sun is something I find VERY boring. American Apparel are cool, but their shorts are yet another thing you could not get away with here. That is outside of the insanely cliquey (I swear, like Mean Girls) gay "scene".

― I know, right?, Saturday, 14 July 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

Depressing shithole is the term most often equated with it.

― I know, right?, Saturday, 14 July 2007 23:46 (eighteen years ago)

^^Yeesh, rant!^^
http://www.americanapparel.net/storefront/images/detail/serve.asp?media=1401_Gold.jpg

Anyway, like this?

― I know, right?, Saturday, 14 July 2007 23:55 (eighteen years ago)

okay KINDof, except these ones had like those SLITS on the sides that expose even more of ur thigh u know?

i mean, i really tried to play up the seventies bunny in the sun thing. i even trotted over to some hot tattood guy to bum a cigarette, all like kelly taylor style, u know. see something on the beach u want, go get it kinda thing. of course, i didn't look as good as she would have. what the fuck am i talking about

it's really wrong that that picture is turning me on. i love thighs

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

It's a good picture though.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

All this MSCL talk upthread has me marathoning it on Youtube. Some guy's uploaded every single episode. My inner depressed teenage girl is very happy. Or depressed or whatever.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

what that's so hot. i have most of them taped but i'm missig some KEY ones. like i don't even know if i have the boiler room episode on tape. u remember where they hold hands down the hall at the end?

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

Can you clue me in? What is MSCL? I tried to look upthread but just didn't see it.

― Bimble, Sunday, 15 July 2007 15:12 (eighteen years ago)

You just have to make friends with someone called tahsar and then you can watch every single one. I'm in the middle of four in a row.

My so called life. Please be as enthusiastic about it as you are about other things!

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

They're all divided into five parts and the last part is always so rousing you just have to watch the next one.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

best show ever (as far as dramas go)

hahaha

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

bizarre, just iafter i saw the picture of ricky upthread i searched for torrents of MSCL. first episode nearly through. can i really watch all 19 eps though? i don't want to completely regress.

― jed_, Sunday, 15 July 2007 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

by the way if you guys torrent you can get all the eps here: http://www.mininova.org/

― jed_, Sunday, 15 July 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

wow! But I don't really have the patience for that and this youtube thing is perfect. It's a work of art what they've done. each segment matches up perfect and they're all in order and all there. I've never seen anything like it!

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

lol u guys are so cute

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

You don't even have to torrent them, you can get the entire season on tv-links (dot co dot uk). You can even set them to download if you

click an episode to play
click the X button at the end of the seek bar/before the volume control
click Preferences
go to Downloads
click the folder button after "Download to:" and specify a folder
check "Auto-save all downloads"

now just open up each episode and wait til they load completely, and then you can watch them in your own player and they won't be stretchy-wide. You'll also be able to seek. This'll download any show on tv-links taht's hosted on Stage6

― Stevie D, Sunday, 15 July 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

You can also watch hundreds of other shows like Veronica Mars, The State, tons of old Nickelodeon shows, and VERONICA MARS!

― Stevie D, Sunday, 15 July 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

it's really wrong that that picture is turning me on. i love thighs

Lol I have a great pic of my thighs (my best feature I think) online - I think I posted it to ILX once, ages ago.

― Mark C, Sunday, 15 July 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

do it!

i kno my legs are def an asset.

so ya let's see ;-)

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

stevie. great link but i can't get the movies to play on any of my browsers. must be a mac prob :(

― jed_, Sunday, 15 July 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

Seriously, this is the only way to go I think

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 17:41 (eighteen years ago)

fucking amazing

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

"we'll always be able to spot you. in a crowd."

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 17:48 (eighteen years ago)

hahahaha! It hasn't aged a tiny bit. I get so fuzzy nostalgia watching it. Convince me not to watch my fifth episode today. PLEASE.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

Well its aged a lot actually, I love her ranting about Porno for Pyros and Stone Temple Pilots. Seems like yesterday.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

lol totally. Crowded House

WATCH A FIFTH EPISODE. i'm on my third 90210, i might have to do some MSCL tonight. in fact, i think that is perfectly in order.

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

I've already started. I need help.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

Sharon's tits paranoia is classic.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

HA!

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

i have never seen an episode of this show ever

― impudent harlot, Sunday, 15 July 2007 18:44 (eighteen years ago)

I love Claire Danes so much.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, hell yeah! It's the one with the hot English Teacher!

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 19:01 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah its the sixth one today. Yeah, what're you gonna say about it?

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

omg ima watch these while doing laundry

― strgn, Sunday, 15 July 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

I'd like to embrace a wolf.

-- Jesse, Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:36 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

o_O

― river wolf, Sunday, 15 July 2007 19:08 (eighteen years ago)

"Um, Excuse me, try your own conversation!"

"Plus a muscle relaxer!"

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHA t;hat line

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

and btw harlot it will change ur life

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

i mean really.

btw i met claire last year! she came to one of our gala's and i greeted her/walked her thru stuff

great.

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

it looked so maudlin to me at the time so i wasn't really interested

i ought to be looking for jobs right now instead of devoting whole days to watching entire runs of tv shows, unfortunately

― impudent harlot, Sunday, 15 July 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

it may be a bit maudlin but its strengths are key - the cast, humor and intelligence are unparalleled.

looking for jobs pisses me off

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

me to. the MSCLine helps me get through the day.

― Stevie D, Sunday, 15 July 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

it really is a very comforting show.

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

ought to be looking for jobs right now instead of devoting whole days to watching entire runs of tv shows, unfortunately

yes

― strgn, Sunday, 15 July 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

My job is up in the air at the mo. Hopefully they ring me on monday, or its back to CV hunting.

There's something about the half-crying/smiling face that Claire Danes makes almost every three minutes of this show that just gets me. Y'know?

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

lol that's her TRADEMARK face. she's all bout poignance

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

Did she do it at the gala? ;)

(btw wtf?)

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

I almost cried during the pilot when she apologizes and hugs her mother.

― Stevie D, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

um she actually really almost did do it at the gala

and i've definitely bawled at that part stevie

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

something something "looking for her family. i guess that's what we're all looking for."

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

pow

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

GAYMSCLFAP NE1???

― Stevie D, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, if only...

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, god. It's episode seven. This is too much.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

Is not!!! Consider it therapy

― Stevie D, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

absolutely

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

Is not!!! Consider it therapy
-- Stevie D, 15 July 2007 20:45 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Are you implying that I need therapy? : )

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

Um, sweetie, everybody needs therapy.

― Stevie D, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

This is some good therapy!

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:54 (eighteen years ago)

Is it worrying that I find Rayanne more attractive than Jordan?

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

Hey Surmounter! I get the Crowded House reference now! LOL.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

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HAHAHAHA!

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

"what is that - is that a Crowded House song, or something?" HA, with the face

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

I love the way character's in tv shows are always INCREDIBLY indecisive about what music they like. I remember Seth and Marissa being into The Cramps and The Sex Pistols in the first episode of the OC, a few shows later and he only likes Deathcab for Cutie and the Postal Service. She only listens to the Disney Channel from what I could tell towards the end.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

haha

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

There's a lot of Angela hate on these youtube comments. I love her. She is my teenage self.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)

I'll need therapy for this therapy! One more and then I'm quittin', I swear!

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 21:56 (eighteen years ago)

Is it worrying that I find Rayanne more attractive than Jordan?

-- I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 20:55 (1 hour ago) Link

Rayanne's more attractive than EVERYONE on the show. When I said no one was hot, i meant the boys. All the girls, though, are total hot.

― Stevie D, Sunday, 15 July 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

Its just, I might have those dreams again....

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 22:12 (eighteen years ago)

she is totally hot. some outfits are ridiculous. she was def some kind of idol for me

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

Right on schedule! How was it?

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

She is acting more and more like a crazy homeless old lady though.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 22:25 (eighteen years ago)

i'm actually now trying to record some music in this stifling warmth, but every tme i put my headphones on i feel like i'm going to suffocate, so i had to go out for an iced coffee

btw Angela rocks. who is? rayanne?

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 22:26 (eighteen years ago)

Yes Rayanne. She's doing this stilted hunched over mumble and eyebrow raise act. Its hilarious. She is shit cool.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 22:27 (eighteen years ago)

Praising Angela feels to me like boasting, Television has never created a character that feels so like me. Not that I act like that or anything.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 22:28 (eighteen years ago)

oh RIGHT - that IS a very cute act on her =)

― Surmounter, Sunday, 15 July 2007 22:58 (eighteen years ago)

Oh my god! Andrea from Sabrina?! This gets too good too routinely.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 23:49 (eighteen years ago)

I know a guy who talks in an extremely gay way but continually claims he's got a girlfriend/is attracted to women. What does this mean? It drives me insane, personally.

― Bimble, Sunday, 15 July 2007 23:49 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe it doesn't mean anything. The benefit of the doubt goes a long way.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 23:51 (eighteen years ago)

It's not as if cocksucking gives you a speech impediment.

― Casuistry, Sunday, 15 July 2007 23:54 (eighteen years ago)

Ouch, nice, I might use that.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 15 July 2007 23:56 (eighteen years ago)

well it depends on how vigorous you are

― Surmounter, Monday, 16 July 2007 00:03 (eighteen years ago)

accessorizing: it is fun [on acid!!? why, yes.]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1229/825586912_04c16ee2aa.jpg

the earrings are my friend's clip-ons that she made me wear because they matched my outfit (not pictured: bright chartreuse swim trunks & vintage pan-am logo flight bag). i was the hot neon mess at the music fest. picture is surprisingly good, considering how trashed i felt here.

― elmo argonaut, Monday, 16 July 2007 05:16 (eighteen years ago)

i really feel this is a look needing to be discovered

― Surmounter, Monday, 16 July 2007 05:55 (eighteen years ago)

u kno that feeling when u just can't believe there isn't one cigarette in the house for you to smoke? i'm having it

― Surmounter, Monday, 16 July 2007 05:56 (eighteen years ago)

a lot.

― Surmounter, Monday, 16 July 2007 05:57 (eighteen years ago)

Are you folks familiar with MC Cazwell? He's naughty. I can't believe I can't find lyrics online...

http://www.cazwell.com/index.php

― Jesse, Monday, 16 July 2007 06:39 (eighteen years ago)

you Chatty Cathys!

― Dr Morbius, Monday, 16 July 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

Am watching MSCL again. Just started ep 17, only 3 more, am so sad :-( BUT Claire Danes singing along to Violent Femmes is without a doubt, the absolute best MSCL moment of all time.

Period.

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 05:41 (eighteen years ago)

lol Chatty Cathys

i know it is sad. the saddest part is the show ends and u never kno if rayanne and angela make up

there was some script online a long time ago, supposedly what would have happened - something ridiculous about brian and angela getting together which just freaks me out

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 05:52 (eighteen years ago)

um BY THE FUCKING WAY, can we talk about The Weekend episode where Patty gets drunk and loses her shit? THAT might be the mest MSCL moment of all time period.

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 05:53 (eighteen years ago)

GOD. DAMMIT. I resisted for a long time. I avoided Tvlinks.co.etc, but now I've gone and clicked on it and I'm never gonna get to work on time tomorrow morning.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:07 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha i know i really should be asleep wtf

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:12 (eighteen years ago)

i know it is sad. the saddest part is the show ends and u never kno if rayanne and angela make up

OH MY GOD WHY DID YOU SAY THAT?!?!? I'M STILL ON EPISODE 17!!!!!!! THAT'S THE CLIFFHANGER?!?

!!OH MY GOD

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:16 (eighteen years ago)

That is like the absolute harshest cliffhanger ever.

oh.

my god.

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:16 (eighteen years ago)

I'm dumb.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:24 (eighteen years ago)

oh my god stevie i'm really sorry, i didn't mean to, oh geez.

oops. i feel really bad now...

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:24 (eighteen years ago)

OK, so it's another episode of Jesse Gets a Beau:

I asked Dude (who is out of town still, but returns tomorrow) about what was up with the mixed signals and was pretty direct, asking if there was a problem with our sexual connection. He said, "I'm just stressed out b/c of moving, looking for a job."

Since we're going to be seeing each other in a couple of days, and I hate to have A Talk, I left it at that, but that did not answer the question!

-- Jesse, Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:20 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:24 (eighteen years ago)

jesse shouldn't that be on the other thread? should i respond to it here or there?
-- Surmounter, Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:23 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link
OH SONOFABITH.
-- Jesse, Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:24 AM (42 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:25 (eighteen years ago)

hehe rite

um ok so he seemed like he was averting the question then right?

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:25 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know. It's hard to tell over IM, which is why I left it at that. But yeh, it could seem like that. But he is still using terms of endearment and saying "Hey handsome" etc.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:26 (eighteen years ago)

is he like a real busy type? always has things to do, not enuf time?

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:29 (eighteen years ago)

Um. He's unemployed at the moment and leading a life of relative leisure. Why do you ask?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:35 (eighteen years ago)

well i just wondered if his lifestyle made him like distant or whatever, which i know can happen. i mean, i also always remind myself (speaking of sex and the city), that it's always possible that a guy is just not that into you. i mean i alwaysh ave to keep that in mind. the worst is one i get the stories from my girlfriends and i just wanna be like "um maybe he's just not that into you" but i can't.

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:39 (eighteen years ago)

Secret other gay thread, hm?

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:44 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, dude is not being honest with you. Do you have a good guess as to what's going on? It doesn't sound like he's not into you.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:45 (eighteen years ago)

I am really fine with him not being that into me. Totally. But I want to hear it, not have to figure it out from fucking clues. It's way too early to tell, anyway.

On another topic, I don't know how to DATE. I have only either been a slut-monkey or have been in a relationship. These days however the fucking Boy Tsunami hit hard and I have a nice little stable. But I feel weird, like I'm cheating on all of them even though none of us are exclusive. But I wonder, if it works out with one of them, wouldn't it be weird to think, wow, during the earliest days of our relationship I was seeing a couple of other guys at the same time.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:46 (eighteen years ago)

Chris-- I don't understand the wording of what you just said.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:47 (eighteen years ago)

i was just bringing that up, u know not in like a personal way just as a constant reminder.

i have this one friend who always ends up believing that the men she gets involved with end up dumping her because they think they're not good enuf for her. ....

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:47 (eighteen years ago)

xpost Do you mean it doesn't sound like he IS that into me?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:48 (eighteen years ago)

dating is great. it's like, classy. at least compared to slutmonkeydom

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:49 (eighteen years ago)

yea that threw me to. i really can't tell cuz u say he's literally giving u mixed signals so u can't tell. but some people mistake negative signals for mixed signals cuz they like don't want to be rejected

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:50 (eighteen years ago)

His signals are solidly mixed. None actually negative. Anyway, I am pretty much done sweating it for now. If it continues then I'll put the kibosh things.

Am I paranoid for thinking, "What if he's reading this"?

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:53 (eighteen years ago)

OK, I just found this.

http://gaymagix.com/Images/Items/vggay6068.jpg
Disturbing.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:54 (eighteen years ago)

can we see a pictuer of him? oh wait that's probably like wrong of you

he won't read it! heh

eww, yah

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:54 (eighteen years ago)

It sounds like he's interested in you. Is he taking initiative? But he doesn't want to... I mean, I don't know exactly what he won't do with you, but he won't sleep with you or something. And you ask him why not and he says he's stressed out which is a fairly bullshit answer. So that's not it. So do you have a theory as to what it is? You know him better than me.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:55 (eighteen years ago)

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That makes things slightly better.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:55 (eighteen years ago)

eewwwwwwwww

i can't believe i actually use some of those words sometimes, when it's too hot out....

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:56 (eighteen years ago)

THE SPICE MUST FLOW.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:57 (eighteen years ago)

That is gross and creepy. The cover, at least.

And the name 'Brad Buff'

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 06:58 (eighteen years ago)

awful

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:00 (eighteen years ago)

I know I brought it up, but I don't want it to be a big THING. Anyway, here are the deets:

--Before we met we had a long period of just talking on the phone and exchanging pictures because he was travelling. We connected and it seemed clear that there was a mutual attraction. He is a kind of a freak, but I think he does not like to be the one to take charge, which is fine, I can do that, but I need at least a signal to help me do that.

We messed around, but it wasn't quite what I expected. He was definitely stressed, that part is true, and he also was not feeling well, but still you're right, that's not enough of a reason.

I think 1. he's shyer than he lets on and he was nervous, or 2. he's just notthatintome.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:02 (eighteen years ago)

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― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:03 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1351/595425602_3721d21c01.jpg?v=0

Wrong or not, here he is.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:04 (eighteen years ago)

I think he is all kinds of adorable.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:05 (eighteen years ago)

is cute. I wish i could give advice but have not enough experience. Well, at least with the dating thing.

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:06 (eighteen years ago)

Oh i love it when people employ "all kinds of"! Like "that bitch is all kinds of crazy"

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:07 (eighteen years ago)

Bah, I am fine. More getting things off my chest at least as far as Dude is concerned.

WRT to the dating thing though, I could use advice....

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:07 (eighteen years ago)

I lived in the foothills of NC during high school, and they have a lot of interesting colloquiallisms, including "all grades of" meaning "all sorts of." As in, "the food court at the mall has all grades of places to eat" and "he's all grades of cute."

Anyway, that turned into "all kinds of" and here we are today.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:09 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, my friend Liz got me into it. Do you know Liz? She is all kinds of amazing.

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:10 (eighteen years ago)

I'm tired. I think I'm going to go to bed and maybe jack my stick to a Frenzied finish!

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:10 (eighteen years ago)

I'm almost sorry I said that.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:11 (eighteen years ago)

ooh i'd totally hit it

maybe he's just not sure what he wants and doesn't want to be pressured, but wantst o keep up the fun thing u guys have started?

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:11 (eighteen years ago)

lol pleze don't be too funny

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:11 (eighteen years ago)

I am all for having fun, but the fun only goes as far as talking about it. I'm not trying to get all serious, which is why I would like less talk and more slap and tickle.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:15 (eighteen years ago)

rite HA

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:16 (eighteen years ago)

slap and tickle huh

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:16 (eighteen years ago)

Top GIS result for "frenzied Finnish"

http://www.jaxxroxx.com/images/Mika%20&%20Thomas%20with%20MTV3%20Finland%203-24-05.JPG

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:16 (eighteen years ago)

Seriously kids. Time to go to Finland.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:17 (eighteen years ago)

not so frenzied methinks

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:19 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.irintech.com/x1/images/jean/big_bags_finnish.jpg

i like these better

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:19 (eighteen years ago)

Seriously kids. Time to go to Finland.

Well.... is Tom there?

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:20 (eighteen years ago)

OMG JACK NANCE ON MSCL?!?!?

Wasn't this the EXACT same person he played on Twin Peaks? Did this just fucking turn into Twin Peaks?

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:21 (eighteen years ago)

who the fuck did jack nance play?

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:23 (eighteen years ago)

the same guy!!!

hold on screen caps coming

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:26 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.twinpeaksfest.com/prr/images/chars/petemartell.jpg

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:28 (eighteen years ago)

WHAT? what episode/context????

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:28 (eighteen years ago)

is this like the halloween episode or something...

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:29 (eighteen years ago)

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/174/snapshot20070717032844jb1.jpg

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:30 (eighteen years ago)

First is from Twin Peaks; second is from Weekend episode.

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:30 (eighteen years ago)

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'm such an idiot i was just talking about that episode

OH MY GOD stevie did u get to the scene with patty at dinner yet? this has to be one of my all time favorite episodes of anything

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:32 (eighteen years ago)

The scene just started ;-) They're passing around the ginger brandy stuff.

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:35 (eighteen years ago)

oh my god YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS the hooch

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:35 (eighteen years ago)

oh right and rayanne's chained to the bed

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:39 (eighteen years ago)

By far the farciest thing I've ever seen on this show.

amazing.

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:43 (eighteen years ago)

I WAAANT ICE CREEAMMMM JUST ONE SCOOP!

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:43 (eighteen years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA RIGHT??!!

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:44 (eighteen years ago)

omg when she takes off her shirt

"oh no, this is stained - better soak it!"

"oh, i know! somebody loan me a sweater!"

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:45 (eighteen years ago)

Hahaha YES!!

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 07:45 (eighteen years ago)

I saw that "Double Size" porno image and I thought, "When did Ellen Degeneres become a man, and why are there two of her?"

I'm still horrified.

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 13:44 (eighteen years ago)

Those eyes are from Village of the damned.

something ridiculous about brian and angela getting together which just freaks me out

:p on you!

I am terrible at dating, now too old for slutmonkeydom and haven't had even a 4-month BF in at least 6 years. What next? Monastery?

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

I like dating and do it often. Boyfriends I can't handle. You're expected to talk to them, to listen, and on Sundays the only thing I want to do is read by the pool.

Jesse, your boy's cute.

Surmounter, you need to tell us more about your Day At The Beach

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

Now, what is the point of dating, then? You spend more per sex act, and still have to listen, with less payoff.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 13:56 (eighteen years ago)

I dislike dining alone.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

The point for me is that, as I said earlier, I am enthralled by the men, so I like having them around.

So the Dude called me this morning at 8:30 just to say hi and ask me if I wanted to meet him at the airport tomorrow.

― Jesse, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

UM that is DEFINITELY a positive sign?

my day at the beach burned me so bad i don't know that i'll ever go back. no but it was really fun. will find a pic lata

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

i just came upon this pic of my boyfriend from college and just wanted to show off how frikin cute he is

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g192/rrawn/rycute.jpg

cream puff much??! ok ok i'm done.

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

Oh Delia, honey, you're in love with a FAG! Don't you remember your breakout Prom episode, where you danced with him at the end? NO STRAIGHT PERSON dances/can dance like that!

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

hahahaha... i love in that episode when Angela sees Jordan like across the gym or whatever, and that song starts playing "Release me... release meee"

so dramatic

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

OK Delia figger'd it out. I love this! Rickey's huge step (verbal acknowledgement) and Delia finally found her very inevitable role as fag hag (which, looking back, totally fit from the start)

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

oooh right at katimsky's. adorable scene. if i were into girls, i'd be into you...

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

AC:"I can't believe I fell for it. It's obviously a total lie..."

BK:"No, I meant every word."

:-((((

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

My god, what the fuck was that?? What kind of an ending was that? Who is responsible for the cancellation and what is their home address!!!

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

UGH RIGHT! JC: "your mom said it was okay"

i know, it's almost devestating

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

I believe there was some kinda deal to continue the show, maybe on cable? But Claire Danes said "I'm off to make R&J with DiCaprio, bye."

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah, she apparently really didn't want to continue the show, even though she pretended to try to save it.

bitch.

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

really??? too bad that movie wasn't so hot

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

lol leguizamo

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

I will never see that movie, esp after the same criminal did the headache-inducing Moulin Rouge! Like a bad drug.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

i haven't seen either but i refuse to believe he can do any good after foisting that wretched sunscreen song on an unsuspecting nation

― impudent harlot, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

Not to mention the flowered shirt he foists on Leo.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

No, R+J is pretty good! Anyway, I didn't watch it for a whole day (after nine in one, but god help me I'm about to.) Those twins are pretty horrible. Am I the only one really freaked out by the word "squirt" as applied in the way it was to them? YOU know. It's just a bit too onomatopoeic. I think it should make a sqeaking noise or something. Sorry about that.

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

By it I mean My So Called Life btw.

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

I just found out that E. Elias Merhige ("Shadow of the Vampire", the BRILLIANT AND INNOVATIVE "Begotten"), directed the new Interpol video. Which sucks.

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

The video (huge letdown) sucks, not the fact that he directed it.

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

i gues R+J wasn't AWFUL but i DEF remembering being disappointed. as with moulin rouge, though i think both could dow ith another viewing

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

no no no. NR! aptly described as "monument to ADD"

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)

MR!

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:21 (eighteen years ago)

xpost you're right, that video is horrible. I actually find it slightly offensive, kinda sexist. All that looking in the mirror instead of where she's going horribleness. Its just a bit too misanthropic, that little punchline is fairly nasty.

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:23 (eighteen years ago)

No, I'm not really there on moulin rouge. Mostly because of Ewan McGregor, everyone does that awful over earnestness that you rarely see outside children's theatre, but he's the sickliest of all. Nicole Kidman is amazing though, and the soundtrack is incredible and the costumes and everything. I mean c'mon, that beck Timbaland collab is better than anything on FS/LS.

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

I have shut all those horrible versions of (mostly) crap pop tunes they did outta my memory.

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry what?

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

*blinks*

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

Jim Broadbent singing Madonna, no thx

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:29 (eighteen years ago)

(and if only this was a world where their levels of fame were transposed)

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)

Okay, that was a good example. But there was some really good ones too!

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

I see that you agree with me on Last Days of Disco though. Now that is a soundtrack I'm sure we can agree on.

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

Not on the movie, alas.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, but you totally made me rethink my "Think about me" position on that Fleetwood Mac thread.

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, good! What do you think now?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

I have this whole stepford theory that shouldn't really be written down for being laughed at.

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

: )

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

I like it a lot more now. In fact I think its fantastic now. It just didn't hit me before. Y'know?

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

Am about to see SLINT tonight am SO EXCITED!!!

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 19:15 (eighteen years ago)

Lucky! I will be away when they play Dublin. They also played Brussels like a week after I left Belgium.

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

I will want to know how good it is btw.

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

I saw them during their tour in 2004 and it was so magical... I'm just so terrified seeing them again will make it less magical/less of a spectacle.

― Stevie D, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

I hear ya.

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 19:27 (eighteen years ago)

work is very slow 2day. i was typing "it was like" to a friend, and i fell asleep typing "like." so it came out "it was likkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk"

slow.

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 19:35 (eighteen years ago)

Moulin Rouge! was unbearable.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

lol leguizamo (again)

― elmo argonaut, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

esp as they never said who Toulouse-Lautrec WAS

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

oh yeah!

― I know, right?, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

i just went to pitchfork and the only thing i did was click on the american apparel link, and then i proceeded to get excited by the pics of men in shorts.

i don't know what that says about me or pitchfork.

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

surmounter you work at B4M rite? thinking of applying to a position there. (among other things, the commute would be GREAT)

― impudent harlot, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

Pitchfork cares not for man-sex.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

i do work at BAM - where do u live?? the slope? i live a block up from here. oh and what position? there's one open in my office hehe :-)

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

I go to BAM (like when they showed a print of "Vera Cruz" w/ the WRONG RATIO last week).

― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

that would be really funny if i like submit ur resume =)

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

i live in ditmas park, so, south-east-ish of the slope (about five stops down on the Q)

― impudent harlot, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:16 (eighteen years ago)

i saw a movie recently where they accidentally switched the last two reels around. confusing, to say the least

― impudent harlot, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)

Pitchfork cares not for man-sex.

Tim Finney and Drew Daniel each shed a single tear.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:23 (eighteen years ago)

um yea i would think so xp

well here's to ur search lemme kno if i can be of help =) all our listings are on the website, which i'm sure u know

― Surmounter, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:28 (eighteen years ago)

OMG SLINT!!!!

My fears of lost magic came true... until...

NEW SONG AT END!!!!!!! TEN+ MINUTE NEU! JAM!!!!!!!!!!!! OH. MY. GOD.

― Stevie D, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 07:58 (eighteen years ago)

MSCL is good, but man, the melodrama....if I see ONE MORE scene bursting ultra-significant silences and glances I'm gonna puke on my keyboard.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 13:08 (eighteen years ago)

And some of Angela's internal dialog..."OMG, like, how can we just walk around where other people can see us when we're like naked under our clothes????"

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)

That's how adults write teen angst. The alternative is ...Larry Clark?

btw, "Brian Krakow" is on some new cable series w/ Lili Taylor.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 13:12 (eighteen years ago)

i have a crush on a somewhat older gay man at work. he's such a patutey, and he called me at the office this morning, and we set up a tennis date. ! also he's totally like wayyy up there in terms of title, so it's all kinds of exhilerating

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

how old is 'somewhat older'?

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

I just watched the pilot episode of Felicity last night. I saw the show maybe two or three times during its run, but I'm afraid I might get sucked in now. After The O.C., Felicity's inarticulateness is, weirdly, a relief.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

x-post -- http://classic.mountainzone.com/climbing/2000/forbidden/photos/disp-photos/07-09-very-old-man.jpg

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

hmm... 35? it's tricky, he might could be a TOUCH older but he has one of those baby faces, and a really healthy, fleshed out but not fat build, and he keeps a stylishly bald head.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

the 1st 2 seasons of felicity are effing amazing. be careful if you have the DVD u won't be able to stop. i spent like 2 days watching that show.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

I saw the pilot. I had to admit, it was some kind of triumph that its writers presented this retrograde version of femininty to the "Sex and the City" generation; they'd gone back to thinking that all chicks do is make important decisions based on the imagined response they'd get from a guy or cut their hair in hideous fashion.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

Hmmm.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

I want a picture of your office date.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

why is Felicity gay topic?

hahaha, 35 "somewhat older," I am sick.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

lol older than ME. i'm 24, so that is somewhat older! not older as in gay scene verbage older

i would LOVE show you his pic but i swear i'd feel so wrong

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

I understand. Though I did do the same and two wrongs do make a right.... ;)

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

I knew that's what you meant, Surmounter, np. Have you ever been to Cattyshack?

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

Haha, I've never really watched Felicity except for that one episode where her boyfriend's alcoholic dad, played by beardo John Ritter, gets all weepy & inappropriately touchy & then tries to smooch her -- hilarious!!

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

stylishly bald head.

these days, isn't this redundant?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

haha, no, because you can't *style* hair you don't have

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:54 (eighteen years ago)

Clearly I need your advice every morning, Elmo.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

well i think some baldies don't carry it off as well

i have been to cattyshack, liked it was cute - other peeps say they're manunfriendly

lol i know two wrongs do make a right... yum bagel time

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, I do have lots of hair, but I'm vain. I just posted a recent pic in the July thread.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

i friggin love lots of hair

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

alfred u look totally different than what i had imagined

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

Uh oh.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

no in ag ood way! u look good!

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

then again, I'm a poor judge as to how my queer brethren picture me.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

aren't all queers -well i guess not all

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

alfred, i'm completely vain as well, especially about my hair, despite the fact i never do much to style it -- i generally let it do its own shaggy wavy thing and as long as it doesn't frizz too bad i'm happy with it.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

I never leave the house with at least 18 lbs of gel, thickly applied.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

never leave the house withOUT that u mean?

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

I think it's time for refresher Gay WDYLL, please.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/42/115152145_910b70ea6a.jpg?v=0

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

That's sort of a weird picture of me.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/2/3291645_a8ed307794.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/2/3291621_6a4e317cd0.jpg?v=0

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

i've been on a pomade kick but i can't put too much in otherwise i feel like one of those girls with the hair thats plastered to their head who u just want to wash it put some herbal essences in it and say "there now doesn't that look healthy?"

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

that's funny i was just gonna ask if we knew wat u looked like

the 2nd picture is really funny

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

well the third picturee really... um i love how ur shirtless in the first one, total manhunt shot

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

we still haven't viewed stills from Surmounter a la plage....

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

Haha. There are surprisingly few pictures of me shirtless. That picture was of my new haircut.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

OK, so I showed you mine, now it's YOUR turn, gentlemens.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

OOH!! You know what it's high time for? WDYourCockLL! :)

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1399/624512883_abd534ab77.jpg

yeeaaaaooooooowwww

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

so cute

beach, new hair 2
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g192/rrawn/chokerBeach.jpg

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

um yea my arm doesn't usually look like that? i actually have great shoulders. just the position... i think i was trying to sit so that my shorts didn't ride up my fucking crotch

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

Sur, did your swimsuit have that mesh netting? Obnoxious.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

It looks like your arm hyperextends or whatever. Is double-jointed. Mine does that too.

So, WDYCLL is a non-starter....

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

I guess I'll just sit around and stare at my own.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

that's not your natural color, right? I prefer a photo you ran last week.

I posted a recent pic the July look-like thread, Jesse. I'm unable to post that picture here now (different workstation).

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

I have no digital camera and other ppl don't take sexxxy ones of me.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

There's already a thread for it. Kenan shared, as I recall, but I didn't look.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

ooooh i JUST figured out what WDYCLL means!!! mine's nice

u know the suit did have that mesh thing but i needed it damn: showing off the burn

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g192/rrawn/beachBurn.jpg

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

Mmmmm....legs.

Mine is decent. I call it the Tuna Can.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

i dunno my color looked weird that day i hadn't been in the sun for that long in a while. lol wow, that's special

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

I'm a little boy crazy ~~these days~~.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

I am assuming you're referring to the Tuna Can when you say that's special.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

yay legs

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

hehe yes

i'm definitely boy crazy these days, it's like a disease, i hate it.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

I am loathe to admit it--in fact I WON'T admit it--but I got the term from a kind of lame has-been actor.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

i am very happy with mine, esp. since it's been showing a bit more length since i've dropped some weight

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not doing pics today.

― Eric H., Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

He was on Celebrity Blind Date and he said, "Do you prefer length or girth" and the woman answered, "Girth." He said, "That's great, because I'm 1" long and 6" around." The rest is cock nickname history.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

hahahahahahaha

so funny this whole thing. yea mine's pretty good. over the years i've realized it measures up quite nicely. i really think this has to stop. i'm at work dammit

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

i've gotten complaints about my excessive width. :( maybe i just need to find, er, more accommodating boys? ha

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

oh, the younger gayz and their sharing.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

omg

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha.

I would like to trade a little girth for some length. I could very gladly trade some nut-size for some cock. Seriously, I think it's b/c I'm a Taurus or something--and what a waste! What good do big balls do you?

Well, they make for a really substantial package I guess....

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

OK, sorry dudez. I'll stop now!

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

hey i would TOTALLY be sharing a lot more if i weren't at work

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

ok well maybe not a LOT more

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

lol jesse u make me laugh tho

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

Have any of you guys heard the dic(k)tum "It ain't the meat, it's the motion"?

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:01 (eighteen years ago)

I sometimes feel like my crotch should come with a disclaimer for any guy who thinks I'm swinging 8 I of LD or something: "CONTENTS ARE MOSTLY BALLS."

haha dicktum

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:02 (eighteen years ago)

This convo needs us all in a steamroom snapping towels at each other

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

Frolicking.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

jesus

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:07 (eighteen years ago)

Um, a fellow ILXor (str8) just now told me that his foreskin can make a farting noise.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

well, I think I know the one.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

i did not need to know that about kenan :(

xpost

― Jordan, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

Wrong.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

I just re-read the entire What do you look like in your underwear? thread.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

My foreskin was taken from me. :(

― kenan, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:26 (eighteen years ago)

Is this what you boys do on my lunch break?

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

i rly wish i were home.

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

Why is that?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:52 (eighteen years ago)

boys

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:53 (eighteen years ago)

sur is gettin' all bothered

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:54 (eighteen years ago)

lol i'm not the one started talkin trouble

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

MYSTERY, gentlemen -- cultivate it.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

That would be me.

You have boys at home?

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

xpost.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

lol mystery is tame yo =) jk

no i just have my very own computa

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

That reminds me: this is the porn guy I know from the gay sports bar.

http://www.bradmcguire.com/howblue1.JPG

SFW: guy in underwear.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:00 (eighteen years ago)

well the pkg looks good

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

bradmcguire.com

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

dude, is that br4d mcguir3!! you know him? he's MASSIVE. omg.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

massive?

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

also, he talks really filthy.

xpost yes, as in... big. i mean, not exactly a shock because he is in porn... um

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

mmhmm

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

Massive? Like a big star or massive dingdong?

He is the co-owner of Cr3w B@r and Grill.

http://worl dsgreate stbar.com/cre w%20home.htm

(remove spaces, duh)

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

i am not really a porn maven, but i did watch a porn starring him within the past week so it was easy to recognize him

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

good lord i stay away from ILX at work for four hours and now...

― impudent harlot, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

are u guys like just at home 2day? lol i'm so upset that i'm at this desk i kno i know i can't stop talking about it

lol i know harlot we need ur sense of reason

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

or y'know, ih's CLASS ;)

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

Jesse, is the Chicago Eagle bar any fun? (aside from SF, Portland & Seattle, they usu aren't)

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:14 (eighteen years ago)

I like his movies. Tr3asur3 Isl@nd M3di@ is pretty naughty stuff.

xpost--I'm surprised we haven't had a day like this before now.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

heh

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

The Egle is OK--it's not pure leather, so that's fun. The thing is I don't go there anymore b/c I had a run-in with one of the bartenders who was being a total dick to me. I could probably go back, but I still am displeased with him.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

He cut me off for no reason (seriously, I was so not drunk) and accused me of stealing. Turns out the guy I had been talking to at the bar was a known drug dealer and he thought I was buying from him or something--anyway he cut us both off.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

ok. Jackhammer is closer to where I'm staying anyway, and I think we will have 1 night of general (nongay-specific) drinking anyway. also I like Big Chicks.

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

So do I.

― jaymc, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

Me 3.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

Have you been to Jackhammer? It's OK.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

I think I went to Cr3w when I was in Chicago last year?

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)

I haven't. (I was last in Chi six years ago, so...)

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:31 (eighteen years ago)

http://photos-c.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sctm/v67/9/14/8832499/n8832499_33746558_607.jpg is flipped though; I don't know why. Weirdo cameraphone.

I love how this thread is 2 months old and has 1500+ msgs, and like a third of them are from the past week.

― Stevie D, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:47 (eighteen years ago)

i so need more piercings

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

Like you need a whole in your head.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

nipples

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:02 (eighteen years ago)

I'm content w/ my natural holes

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

i am devoid of tattoos & piercings

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

WDYHoleLL

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:23 (eighteen years ago)

NO!!!

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

love a good tattoo

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

I have been wanting another tattoo for a LONG time now. I have 3 designs, and one I want to commission from a really good artist, but his waiting list is backed up till December.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)

pics hello

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, his list to get on his waiting list. He is not even considering new bookings until November or December, and then I would get in around February.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)

wheres ur current tat

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

On my shoulder. Then there is the BIGGEST MISTAKE OF MY FUCKING LIFE on my left hip. I am so getting that shit removed.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)

aww what is it then

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:37 (eighteen years ago)

it's someone's name, isn't it

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)

oooo

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

or maybe it's calvin pissing on something?

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

It's a goddam mouse. Why? Because I was riding my bike past a tattoo shop and I thought "OHOHOH! I KNOW! I'LL BE SPONTANEOUS!!!! HOW ABOUT A FUCKING TATTOO OF A MOUSE?!"

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

On Jesse.

xpost, dammit.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

Is it a cute mouse? Or Mickey?

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

minnie

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

this is the reason you lie and create a bullshit story about how it's supposed to symbolize your great love of cheeses and holes or something, right?

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

It's an anonymous mouse. An anonymouse. Not only is it stupid, it's also a really poorly done tattoo that is fading in spots.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

u did not just call it an anonymouse

well can't those things be removed nowadays?

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

i slept with one guy (who lives in chicago, fwiw) who had a tattoo of this guy on his hip:

http://www.rdg.ac.uk/StUnion/Anime/p-chan.gif

it's P-CHAN!!! ^_^

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

Yes. But that costs the $$ that I don't have. Sometimes I think, "Huh, well I do own an orbital sander...."

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

no please don't do that

oooh it's expensive then

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

I would guess so. I dunno. I should find out. I would just get it covered up, but I don't want a tattoo on my hip at all.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

I have a thirst for ink though. I want.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:52 (eighteen years ago)

i think i just want someone else's

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

jesse, why not get a piece to cover the mouse? a decent artist can do that no problem, and it would probably cost less.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

b/c i don't want a tattoo on my hip

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

tattoos creep me out i just feel like i would keep trying to wash it off or something ridiculous

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

I think I'm gonna get a life-sized tattoo of an ass on my ass.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

fair enough

i've got an idea in mind for a tattoo, but i've not seen any tattoo art in the style i'd want, namely fine-line / stipple turn-of-the-century botanical illustration type style.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

how romantic sounding

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

Well get someone to design it for you, silly!

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

i want a pomegranate branch on my shoulder / back. in that style. maybe.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

These are drawings, not tattoos, but I want something like this, but it will be something like the Louisiana state flag--a pelican plucking flesh and blood from her breast to feed to her chicks.

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

oops

http://www.timbiedron.com/drawings.php

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.timbiedron.com/images/drawings/DRAWING_07.jpg

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.timbiedron.com/images/drawings/DRAWING_08.jpg

― Jesse, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

that's pretty rad, tho def slightly disturbing

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

omg 15 mins

― Surmounter, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)