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This movie is fucked up.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)

france is gay for sf

― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

Luc Besson wrote the original screenplay when he was in high school.

Yeah, no shit?

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

IT MUST BE FOUND

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

we just rifftrax'ed this movie. it wasn't so good.

― Ai Lien, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

best review of this movie I have encountered was "I have seen the future, and it is really skinny women."

― horseshoe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

IT MUST BE F5OUND

― Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

Police: Are you classified as human?
Korben Dallas: Negative, I am a meat popsicle.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

LUKE PERRY! is in this, for about 10 minutes, but gets really high billing.

― max, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

"I only speak two languages honey: English and Bad English"

― Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

Now I'm just thinking of the band.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.futurama-madhouse.com.ar/wallpaper/fifth_element-spb_petr-640.jpg

― Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:25 (eighteen years ago)

It's a silly movie. I liked it.

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:26 (eighteen years ago)

I liked that it actually looks like a Heavy Metal/Moebius comic. Everything else about it is so fucking stupid and obnoxious and wrong. Plus Luc Besson is something of an asshole.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

she saves teh world because of LUV!

― Gukbe, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

RONG:
http://www.kropserkel.com/Images/leeloocm.jpg

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

I was busy typing a response and, alas, could not rescue my eyes as they melted and ran down my face.

― Deric W. Haircare, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

it's less of a movie than it is a futuristic couture runway show, but I really enjoy its excesses and I don't really hate Bruce Willis in it

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:50 (eighteen years ago)

I love this movie and everyone who doesn't clearly hates fun and should be destroyed by Bruce Willis.

― jessie monster, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:51 (eighteen years ago)

are some of the extras famous in france or something? i remember getting a wierd feeling in some of the framing, like the way it would linger a little over a mechanic if he was played by a nascar driver.

― gff, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

Of all the art direction, really loved best the clockwork aliens right at the beginning; they look like they were unused props from RETURN TO OZ or something

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I kinda love this movie. Chris Tucker's finest performance.

― nabisco, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

gary oldman! w/ the plastic headpiece & iridescent waistcoat!

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:00 (eighteen years ago)

and the southern accent!

― jessie monster, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:05 (eighteen years ago)

it's basically a george w. bush accent ... prescient!

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

I just saw this for the first time. It's a glorious terrible mess.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:09 (eighteen years ago)

It's hard to gauge how much of the humor is intentional.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

I understand you kidz doting on awful movies that are brand-new, but why this?

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

I am not doting on it, I just think it's interesting.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

i like how colorful this movie is

― latebloomer, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:13 (eighteen years ago)

morbs 90s nostalgia is already in high gear

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

ah, like 80s nostalgia it's only gonna celebrate the shit

― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

that's why it's "nostalgia". otherwise it's "canon".

― latebloomer, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:21 (eighteen years ago)

Also, Morbs, notice all the things I confess to liking about this movie have nothing to do with the storytelling and everything to do with costuming and aristic direction.

It's not a "film," it's not even a "movie," but it's a hella good "flick."

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:29 (eighteen years ago)

It's funny.

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:30 (eighteen years ago)

I can't see how the narrative/storytelling in this are any worse than in any one of the million ordinary movies film-lovers on this board are content to enjoy -- am I missing something?

I dunno: I think it's funny, colorful, visually interesting, full of fun cartoonish characters and details, good with its action bits ... I suppose the ending is a bit cornball, but I'd say all that's really missing is painting Bjork blue to play the diva. It kinda reminds me of those "You Are an Intergalactic Spy" puzzle books I was talking about on some other thread a while back.

Am I missing some narrative issues here, or are people projecting some strange expectations onto this? E.g., speculating that the humor may be "unintentional" seems really off -- this spends like half of its time being a comedy! I mean, the monks are practically Three-Stooging it throughout!

― nabisco, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

I agree completely with elmo - it looks good (albeit completely borrowed from other non-film sources, but that's okay) but everything else about it is a disaster.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

i also kinda love this movie and have seen it a few times over the years and will see it a few times more. i really like bruce willis in it! in this awesome repulsion/attraction way

nabisco... otm

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:05 (eighteen years ago)

the first 45 min are the best though, esp the taxi stuff

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)

Seriously, details on the "disaster" part? Maybe it's just cuz I think 95% of major motion pictures are narrative-challenged, but I can't tell the difference between this and anything else of its type.

― nabisco, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not really bagging on the storytelling, nabisco, but the story is not why I'd choose to watch it again, the visuals are much more compelling for me.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

When Oldman forgets the stones on the ship and has to go back - that is funny.

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:15 (eighteen years ago)

I love when all hell is breaking loose after that blue woman thing got killed and Ruby is freaking out @ exploding grenades.

― nickalicious, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)

AUTOWASH

― nickalicious, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

MMMM CHIK-EN

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:17 (eighteen years ago)

Multipass

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

I did find it kinda hokey when Leeloo types in "W-A-R" into her mac book and the tear-jerking montage she pulls up culminates in an ATOMIC MUSHROOM CLOUD. I mean, we are many many centuries into the future here, surely more abominable means of mass murder have been perfected, right?

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

well nabisco a bunch of things I don't like about it have already been cited as other people's favorite so I dunno how productive its gonna be for me to say that I have never enjoyed Bruce Willis's smug-but-lovable-asshole routine in anything ever, or that I find Chris Tucker's emasculated-black-man-freak character just gross, or that the dialogue is all by and large totally laughable ("Me Leloo - supreme being!"), or that Gary Oldman as a sci-fi southern gentleman is unconvincing (what's the point of making him southern, again?), or that the plot's central theme of "love saving the universe" doesn't interest me in any way....

In a larger sense, maybe its that I like my sci-fi films to have some content that reflects on the present in some unusual or illuminating way. This one is just empty - a lot of eye candy and self-conscious dialogue about how ridiculous all the eye candy is and that's pretty much it.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

Mull - tee - pass

― zaxxon25, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha omg I'd forgotten about the WAR montage. This movie fucking rules.

― Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

btw shakey mo, don't ever agree with me again.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

okay

I mean NO!

I mean... uh

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

a sci-fi southern gentleman is unconvincing!

― RJG, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

hating on this film for its lack of a "sensible" narrative is like getting mad at the spice girls for not tackling serious issues of the day seriously enough (to keep with the '90s theme).

i mean, wasn't this set designed by or at least intentionally designed to look like a moebius (comic) strip? i feel like it's very obvious from the get-go that it's a comic send-up of sci-fi thrillers as much as it is one. i think it's really fun, though i am yet to dress up like any of the chracters for a sci-fi con. maybe next year.

what happened to chris tucker anyway?

and has anyone ever seen besson's first movie, 'the last battle' AKA 'le dernier combat'? i fucking absolutely love that film -- one of the best dystopic pictures ever and there are what, three lines of dialogue the whole time? in a different way, 'subway' is aces, too!

― Mike McGooney-gal, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

not if its Bones McCoy!

Oldman's schtick just seems pointless to me, like it was an afterthought added to give Oldman something to do.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:26 (eighteen years ago)

LILU DALLAS MOOOOOOLTIPASS

xpost yeah, the war/love thing is totally hokey and whatever, no question (though OMG has it got nothing on It's All About Love, now officially the worst film I have ever seen)

xpost - Hmm, aight Shakey, fair enough, though I'd offer that the reason I like Willis in this is that his routine is totally comic-book and over-the-top, as opposed to conventional films where we're meant to think of it as somehow ... realistically cool. (I'd also question calling Chris Tucker "emasculated" when he can make airline stewardesses have orgasms just by looking at them -- I'd read him as just a future-projection of someone like Prince!* Anyway the sound design during those first few minutes with him are my absolute favorite thing about the whole movie.)

(* = A lot of the "future celebrity" and "future fashion" projections are obviously the highlights of this -- something about the deaf-Beethoven guy is amusing in some peculiarly French way.)

― nabisco, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:28 (eighteen years ago)

btw Moebius did the set design and Gaultier the costumes - which is why it looks so great! Now if only Jodorowsky had written/directed it, then it mighta been something...

x-post

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

yeah I dunno, maybe emasculated isn't the right word - effeminite? his sexuality is obviously erm "confused". I dunno it just reminds me of the sci-fi version of that truism about every Hollywood film with a black man requiring a scene where he dresses up as a woman.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.got.net/~mmills/black/30_image/carolina.jpg

― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, it's a truism alright, that scene in training day where denzel tarts up is 8080 blood diamonds

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

i love this film, great take your brain out movie.

― not--goodwin, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

M!U!L!T!I!P!A!S!S!

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

this is actually the only movie I don't find Chris Tucker absolutely unbearable in.

Also it is a well-known fact that Gary Oldman is required by law to use a different accent for every role he plays.

― jessie monster, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:45 (eighteen years ago)

the fifth element came out on my birthday and I wanted to go see it but my friends made me go to austin powers instead.

― jessie monster, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

more movies should be so brightly coloured

xpost - i got free passes to this movie when it came out! i can't remember how

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

shoulda specified Hollywood COMEDY there sorry

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:47 (eighteen years ago)

in these threads i always just ctrl+f and look for the slocki post and he's failed me

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

FAILED ME

― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

yeah i love this movie

― river wolf, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

MUUUUUUULTIPASSSSSSSS!

― John Justen, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

Huh: I really like the sense in which Tucker is effeminate. It's not like it's played for laughs -- he's just the androgynous, fabulous, over-the-top mega-pop-star of the future. (I was about to say that maybe that's built on an 80s moment of effeminate male sex symbols, but of course it's not 80s limited at all, and runs back through Liberace to Victorian dandies and Elizabethan rakes and whatnot.)

In my fantasy world it's Tucker's character in this who sings Basement Jaxx's "Hot and Cold."

― nabisco, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:53 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimages/5e_037MultiPass.jpg

― John Justen, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

I expected/hoped for Chris Tucker to get punched out in his first scene. He bugs the CRAP out of me.

SPOILER ALERT!!!!

He's in the whole goddamn movie.

SPOILER ALERT NUMBER 2!!!!

The fifth element is LOVE.

― schwantz, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

and then the other main black character in the film is a hulking cross-eyed incompetent.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

and some of the aliens represent our deepest fears and strongest hopes

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

Fifth Element = Good DVD to showcase your home theater system. Nothing more.

― schwantz, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

uh, you mean the guy who plays the President?

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

Or did you mean Tricky?

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

Kind of like "Twister" in that respect.

― schwantz, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

(x-post)

― schwantz, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

uh, you mean the guy who plays the President?

yeah, the one who inadvertently brings on the unstoppable void threat-thing, if I remember correctly.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:01 (eighteen years ago)

YOU'RE FORGETTING TRICKY
AND THE ALIEN WHO TURNS INTO A BLACK MAN
SO THE OTHER BLACK PEOPLE ARE VILLAINS THANK YOU

Actually re: the president I was glad that actor got to play the president for once, and not just a scary guy! I dunno about "incompetent," either -- he has to sit around waiting for Willis to work, but he's all cool and commander-in-chiefy about it, and then there's that whole bit where he and Willis are all like "okay, let's cut the presidential stuff and get down to brass tacks." And he hangs up on Willis's mom.

xpost Wait, how does he bring on the threat? I don't even remember him appearing until midway through.

― nabisco, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

omg i forgot abt tricky!
(i remember when i really liked tricky)
xpost!

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

Any movie that has Tiny Lister play the president is automatically great. And I don't think he was incompetent at all! If anything he was very calm and stabilizing ... much of it was out of his control.

― zaxxon25, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

Also please note, Three-Stooges-wise, I'm not sure there's anyone in this who ISN'T an incompetent apart from Willis, Jovovich, and the Diva.

― nabisco, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

Well and the president, I guess I'm saying. It's a relative scale here.

― nabisco, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

its been a long time since I've seen it - isn't the president the one who orders to shoot the void, thereby making it stronger, etc.?

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

you know it's french b/c of that and b/c a swarthy white guy saves the world
xpost to incompetence

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

The president doesn't "bring on the threat," and he doesn't even really make it worse - he is about to shoot at it, the priest tells him that will just make things worse, the prez says to his general "I have doubts," the general says "I don't" and shoots at the evil planet thingy.

― n/a, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

okay never mind

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:06 (eighteen years ago)

maybe you want to examine the racial politics of Oldman's southern gentry accent re: black people? don't let me down, dude.

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

what is your problem? do you have some axe to grind with me? I don't even know who you are.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:08 (eighteen years ago)

god forbid I find the racial politics in a french film confusing lolz

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/images/fifthelement15.jpg

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

just a bit of fun

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:10 (eighteen years ago)

Check out that giant orange dong back there!

― nickalicious, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:13 (eighteen years ago)

god forbid I find the giant orange dongs in a french film confusing lolz

― RJG, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:14 (eighteen years ago)

Apart from the absolute most central roles, every bit of casting in this seems dedicated to getting as many cool- and/or different-looking people on screen as possible, hence (a) a muscle-bound odd-eyed president, (b) Tricky, and (c) countless minor tasks being performed by offbeat and/or ethnically indeterminate models -- e.g., that shaved-headed French model with the dragon tattooed on her scalp, or the Extreme Freckles black stewardess, or whatever. The whole thing's backed with surprising- or interesting-looking people, even the general, the monk's young apprentice, the giant robust Nordic-looking woman who's originally supposed to be going with Willis -- it's like a striking-people exhibition in all directions, which is probably a lot of why I enjoy it.

― nabisco, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)

you forgot Luke Perry

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

Upon watching this the second time, I realized I rather liked it.

― Michael White, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

Also the black guy that the lead alien turns into for "human form" is VERY CLEARLY some sort of male model, good lord -- which makes sense as a fake human form.

― nabisco, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

(multipass)

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

lol cosplayaz

http://images.cosplay.com/photos/70/708650.jpg

hint: if you are not milla javavavoom the bandages outfit kinda looks like a diaper

― elmo argonaut, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

Check out that giant orange dong back there!

haha OTM that was the first thing I noticed too

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l32/reschlymk/multipass9ju.gif)

― John Justen, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)

(i am glad it came to that)

― rrrobyn, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

I really enjoy this movie, but all the fun leaves when Gary Oldman's character gets iced. And Chris Tucker is sooo supposed to be the ultimate androgynous future popstar. Even Frank DeCaro called him "Space Prince!" back when the Daily Show used to review movies.

I like how Leeloo learned kung fu by shotgunning informational vids.

― kingfish, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

You people who dont like this film are ALL CRAZY. I love it. It is cartoonish and hilariously fun. Nabisco OTM about the monks Stooging it up all over the place. The ending is a little trite but it is just so much fun.

I kinda like Bruce Willis to be honest.

― Trayce, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)

It's pretty much classic.

For my purposes, this movie is to sci-fi what Busby Burkeley stuff is to musicals. Subpar by many standards, but I'll often choose it above other, more revered movies.

― en i see kay, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 22:52 (eighteen years ago)

this movie is great

― félix pié, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:03 (eighteen years ago)

has anyone ever seen besson's first movie, 'the last battle' AKA 'le dernier combat'?

Saw it when it came out. Still love it now.

I kinda think Besson has been on a downward trajectory since.

― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

Love this movie. Best part? Zorg's secretary.

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 23:14 (eighteen years ago)

yeah zorg's secretary is pretty foxy, with the hair

plus that confused looking muppet thing that just lives in zorg's desk, and how his whole speech to ian holm is basically knocked off the awesome monologue Ned Beatty does in Network

also the flying chinese restaurant house call! I would call that dude every other day.

and the completely useless scene where the rastafarians are clearing vermin out of the landing gear with flamethrowers, and there's weird space reggae playing, I love that.

the only part I don't like is when the opera turns into bad 90s dance mix, that still grates on my ears. but then everything blows up and chris tucker starts freaking the fuck out which is a great palate cleanser.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:45 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I even kinda like the space opera dance mix thing.

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:47 (eighteen years ago)

naw dude that shit's terrible

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:52 (eighteen years ago)

I kind of think sometimes casting bruce willis was because he's so BAD at mugging for the camera, so the few times when he does in the movie, it actually works, as opposed to a lot of other people I can think of who would have spent the whole film mugging one way or another or rather obviously trying NOT to in the face of all the ridiculous props and costumes. It's just too bad they hadn't invented Hugh Jackman yet

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 3 May 2007 00:54 (eighteen years ago)

the only part I don't like is when the opera turns into bad 90s dance mix

OTM, I am loving that song until it goes crazy ape bonkers with the sampled voice, it just sounds a bit silly. But the scene itself is fun.

― Trayce, Thursday, 3 May 2007 01:07 (eighteen years ago)

I remember specifically liking that song!!!

― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 3 May 2007 01:12 (eighteen years ago)

The dance mix annoyed me the first time I saw it but I've grown to love it.

This is a great film to show to friends who "don't like science fiction movies" (as long as they are into Gaultier which admittedly might narrow it down a bit)

― mrlynch, Thursday, 3 May 2007 01:27 (eighteen years ago)

The more I'm reminded of these bits from the film, the more I want to watch it again.

Haha, when the evil planet places a person-to-person call to Zorg and the black shit starts running down his face. "Mr. Shadow on the line for you."

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 3 May 2007 02:27 (eighteen years ago)

Seriously ace film.

Milla!

― SeekAltRoute, Thursday, 3 May 2007 03:12 (eighteen years ago)

what happened to chris tucker anyway?

okay lolzapalooza

btw, MULTIPASS

― HI DERE, Thursday, 3 May 2007 03:49 (eighteen years ago)

Hopefully it'll turn out he filmed Rush Hour 3 with the blonde penis-hair thing on.

P.S. His performance in this may actually be second to the part in that Gates tracing-your-ancestry thing where Gates pulls out a picture of 1930s Chris Tucker and says "look like anyone you know?" Plus his immediate family in that = awesome.

― nabisco, Thursday, 3 May 2007 04:14 (eighteen years ago)

gary oldman! w/ the plastic headpiece & iridescent waistcoat!

-- elmo argonaut, Thursday, 3 May 2007

he looks so... green in this movie!

― haitch, Thursday, 3 May 2007 04:45 (eighteen years ago)

do you mean "green" as "cool" like they use in the movie?

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 3 May 2007 04:55 (eighteen years ago)

i can't believe this movie is ten years old already

― latebloomer, Thursday, 3 May 2007 06:04 (eighteen years ago)

lolz "really green"

I love that a thread about a ten year old B+ Sci Fi movie took the fuck off today.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 3 May 2007 06:15 (eighteen years ago)

If you see it as a B+ scifi movie and not an A++ comedy then you are insane.

― Trayce, Thursday, 3 May 2007 06:32 (eighteen years ago)

It can be both.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 May 2007 06:37 (eighteen years ago)

A B+ is a fair opinion in general, really.

It's funny to think about the demands and expectations people have about sci-fi as a genre, though! I mean, apart from having a big cartoony interstellar-adventure plot, the primary reason this is set in the future is so there can be lots of cool costumes and sets and whatnot -- so when you get to the corny war/love ending, it's just, you know, a corny movie ending. I suppose if you had an expectation that sci-fi necessarily involves epic themes or high-level thematic commentary on contemporary ideas, that would be a pretty big disappointment. But does anyone seriously start watching this with that sort of expectation? Cause really, that'd be like criticizing the Jetsons for not properly interrogating 20th-century cultural norms.

― nabisco, Thursday, 3 May 2007 06:56 (eighteen years ago)

I really like it. On the strength of this, Luc Besson should have done the Star Wars prequels.

― Soukesian, Thursday, 3 May 2007 06:56 (eighteen years ago)

To be honest, I think a lot of why I like this is that it reminds me of cartoony Jetsony space stuff I liked when I was really young -- even a specific book, called (I think) K.L.U.T.Z., about a crappy old robot. Including lots of stuff like high-school kids trying out for the zero-gravity Moonball team. I dunno, I guess I kinda like cartoony funny futures where everything is the same, except with robots and flying and cool clothes.

― nabisco, Thursday, 3 May 2007 07:02 (eighteen years ago)

I suppose if you had an expectation that sci-fi necessarily involves epic themes or high-level thematic commentary on contemporary ideas, that would be a pretty big disappointment.

I want to work in some observation on how that strain of dramatized sf arcing via Straczynski/Whedon/Ron Moore seems to be a (if not the) particular contrast to the 'corny' approach you're arguing for, but I'm not sure how best to phrase it.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 May 2007 07:03 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not arguing for corny! I'm just content with some things being cartoony and others not, whether they're set in the future or not.

(Haha I would, however, argue for slightly more corny/cartoony historical dramas, that would be awesome.)

― nabisco, Thursday, 3 May 2007 07:16 (eighteen years ago)

Umm wait not "cartoony historical DRAMAS," that's all of them already. Just cartoony period pieces. Like Farrelly-brothers and Ben Stiller-type movie except VICTORIAN. Like There's Something about Hortence and Along Came Philomena.

― nabisco, Thursday, 3 May 2007 07:20 (eighteen years ago)

A few novels can get you partway there, but let's face it, Jane Austen and Stella Gibbons never delivered any good cum-in-hair jokes.

― nabisco, Thursday, 3 May 2007 07:23 (eighteen years ago)

THEIR ONE FLAW

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 May 2007 07:26 (eighteen years ago)

This is a great movie, kinda like a light-hearted 'bladerunner'

Who is Tricky in this?

Mull teee pass

― Ste, Thursday, 3 May 2007 08:31 (eighteen years ago)

"That's not possible. I'm the real Corbin Dallas!"

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 3 May 2007 12:35 (eighteen years ago)

I really like it. On the strength of this, Luc Besson should have done the Star Wars prequels.

-- Soukesian, Thursday, May 3, 2007 1:56 AM (8 hours ago)

hahahaha! YES

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

that song is cringey and embarassing and integral to this movie

tricky is a bad guy henchman in this

― rrrobyn, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, the techno breakout was off just enough to be cringeworthy.

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

MOST IMPORTANT TS EVER:

http://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimages/5e_037MultiPass.jpg
Multipass vs.
http://www.sea.fi/foto/total_recall.jpg
Twooooooooo weeeeeeeeeeeeks

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

multipass

you're all d0wnl0ading this right now right? okay

― rrrobyn, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

Arnold Sschwarzenegger as Leeloo. Works on a completely different level.

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

rrrobyn, yes! torrenting at home AT THIS VERY MOMENT

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 3 May 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

sweet. we are torrent friendz :D
xpost
thank you for the mental image of arnold in white bandages outfit

― rrrobyn, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

by which i mean do not want but have

― rrrobyn, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

YOU ARE STEALING FROM GAUM0NT AND NEWS C0RP0RATION

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

I own this on DVD and have since before the turn of the millenium.

― nickalicious, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

Plaaaze haaalp.

― nickalicious, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

"slightly greasy solar atoms"

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

The Fifth Element 153 new answers
Marlon Brando 29 new answers

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

Interesting contentious thread 153 new answers
Another stupid poll thread on a topic that's been discussed over and over and over again 29 new answers

― n/a, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

FUN 153 new answers
DEAD 29 new answers

― nabisco, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

Plus three of those new answers are yours, big boy.

― n/a, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

KATE GETTING BOYS NAKED 66 new answers???

― nabisco, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

MULTIPASS 153 new answers
NO MULTIPASS 29 new answers

― rrrobyn, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

That thread is probably about guys with bad fashion sense or something, but hell no am I opening it.

― nabisco, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

no, sadly, you are mistaken.

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

i wld rather be mistaken than know the truth

― rrrobyn, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:30 (eighteen years ago)

^^^^ that should be killfile motto

― jessie monster, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

Another stupid poll thread on a topic that's been discussed over and over

Mostly re fatness and Michael Jackson. You know, stuff ILE can get interested in.

With all the misplaced love for failed camp you think there'd be more sodomites here.

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWyznYNWeLs

The Ruby Rhod entrance! I had forgotten about the guy with the half-hair, the slapstick with the radio staff, the reversed filter ratio of his cigarette ... also, props to Gaultier for the fact that those "lactating stewardess" uniforms are way more flattering than you'd think.

― nabisco, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

Morbius, quit yr bitching and talk about what you think goes wrong with it! I've been sincerely curious all thread over why someone would actively dislike this.

― nabisco, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

its brow is all wrong

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

"misplaced love for failed camp"

this phrase nearly put me to sleep

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

COFFEE

I saw the clips and read the reviews when it came out, it features Chris Tucker, and it's 126 mins long. You surely don't think I've seen it?

― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha ha!

― n/a, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

classic film criticism

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

chris tucker is actually funny in it. That's right, it's chris tucker as you've never seen him before!

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

Bzzz! Bzzz-Zzzzzt!!

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

this is my best show ever

― Ai Lien, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

hey I voiced some of my specific objections to this movie, to no avail

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

You mean when you made up some shit about it being offensive to minorities or something?

― n/a, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

This has been my favorite film thread in a long while.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

i'm amazed at the hating! it's cartoon sci-fi JOY, and boy does it look purdy - and it's damn funny quite a lot. and MULTIfrickinPASS! Aw.

― CharlieNo4, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

I didn't "make up" anything so much as I couldn't remember what exactly the Tiny Lister-guy did. My reactions to Chris Tucker's weirdness were genuine, regardless of whether or not anyone's "offended", I don't care about that shit - I just find his character gross and unpleasant to witness. And that's hardly the main reason I don't like it - I mentioned the other actors I don't care for, the shitty writing, the lazy ending, etc. but no let's harp on the race thing - after all its ILE (where's ethan?)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

Shakey we all absorbed and discussed your objections politely! Unless by "to no avail" you mean "didn't convince everyone not to enjoy the movie."

Haha re: "gross" -- half the time during that first Tucker scene I wish I could BE Ruby Rhod. I am gross. :(

― nabisco, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

haha yeah nabisco its cool don't worry - I was just referring to my lack of persuasive powers.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

I guess I could make myself a cool mic-staff, but no way could I get into an outfit like that.

You know, that Gates/ancestry thing actually sheds light on Tucker's "effiminate" routine, in this and other things -- I think I remember a post-church meal at the Tucker household that reveals Chris as little brother to a long row of sisters.

― nabisco, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

holy shit i am checking this out tonight

― river wolf, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

And when you do, you might want to join this:

The Fifth Element may quite possibly be the best movie of all time.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

I am SO in.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

There appear to be about ten different 'we heart Fifth Element' groups if not more. Not surprising.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

this movie is rotten with halloween costume opportunities

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/58617976_2d11c1ac26.jpg

MULTIPASS METROCARD 8080

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

I love Chris Tucker's character and I think his performance was hilarious. Tucker plays a self-absorbed diva, but he pulls it off with boisterous naivety, and I totally identified with him through every WTF AAAGH I AM GOING TO DIE SERIOUSLY WTF IS THIS CRAZY SHIT THAT IS HAPPENING TO ME moment. Plus, he is really funny, and not because he is effeminate.

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

Bruce Willis aping for the camera: blame Moonlighting. Great show, but I don't think he ever recovered, stylistically.

― Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:56 (eighteen years ago)

haha omg

http://www.dragoncon.org/photos03/fans/image_data/fans130.jpg

― elmo argonaut, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)

where did she find that totally awesome blue vinyl jacket?

― kenan, Thursday, 3 May 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

MULTIPASS

― rrrobyn, Sunday, 13 May 2007 01:40 (eighteen years ago)

(i am watching this and eating noodles)

― rrrobyn, Sunday, 13 May 2007 01:40 (eighteen years ago)

it is right before the asskicking and dance party diva part

― rrrobyn, Sunday, 13 May 2007 01:43 (eighteen years ago)

Damn now I want to watch this again. I think I have the dvd somewhere.

― Trayce, Sunday, 13 May 2007 01:50 (eighteen years ago)

MULLLL

― Beth Parker, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:47 (eighteen years ago)

TEEEE

― Beth Parker, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:47 (eighteen years ago)

PASSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

― Beth Parker, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:47 (eighteen years ago)

I'm just remembering Ruby Rhod shreiking and freaking out when the shit is hitting the fan in the theatre and it is making me giggle. "Corbin! Corbin my man! eee!" etc. How can anyone not like this film, it is such over the top dumb fun :D

― Trayce, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:50 (eighteen years ago)

oh man yes the scene under the pool table with the shreiking is hilarious

the very end is also hilarious but in a dif way

― rrrobyn, Sunday, 13 May 2007 02:52 (eighteen years ago)

"tell me....pleeeeeasse...."

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 14 May 2007 00:27 (eighteen years ago)

i'm not a fun-hater, but i don't like this movie. and it might be chris tucker's fault completely. pretty much the ONLY sci-fi movies i don't like are this one and Gattaca. I like every other sci-fi movie ever made. even Freejack.

― scott seward, Monday, 14 May 2007 00:46 (eighteen years ago)

i consider it more a rompy, campy action-adventure than a sci-fi movie really

― rrrobyn, Monday, 14 May 2007 00:55 (eighteen years ago)

but it's still sci-fi, yeah

― rrrobyn, Monday, 14 May 2007 00:57 (eighteen years ago)

i used to hate the chris tucker character so much! but this time around i thought he was pretty funny!

― rrrobyn, Monday, 14 May 2007 00:58 (eighteen years ago)

i just remember being kind of annoyed by it. and chris tucker...

i've got nothing against camp. far from it. and i love bruce willis to death.

― scott seward, Monday, 14 May 2007 00:59 (eighteen years ago)

maybe i should watch it again. i saw it when it came out and occasionally i would glimpse it on t.v. but for real, i pretty much love ANY sci-fi movie no matter how crappy.

― scott seward, Monday, 14 May 2007 01:00 (eighteen years ago)

i think it does better on the small screen
and bruce willis is great in it - tough yet sappy, with blond hair!
and seriously, the ending is so terrible and lol and perfect

― rrrobyn, Monday, 14 May 2007 01:09 (eighteen years ago)

I like Gattaca as well!

― Trayce, Monday, 14 May 2007 01:39 (eighteen years ago)

i am trying to think of the crappiest sci-fi movie i like but i have a bad memory for these things. it's possible that it's this movie? prob not though. related: i just remembered that i never saw 'terminator 3'!

― rrrobyn, Monday, 14 May 2007 01:47 (eighteen years ago)

did you ever see enemy mine?

http://www.impawards.com/1985/posters/enemy_mine.jpg

― scott seward, Monday, 14 May 2007 02:11 (eighteen years ago)

or the last starfighter?

http://www.impawards.com/1984/posters/last_starfighter.jpg

― scott seward, Monday, 14 May 2007 02:12 (eighteen years ago)

or mac & me?

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000399WS.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― scott seward, Monday, 14 May 2007 02:14 (eighteen years ago)

come to think of it, i'm not a big fan of earth girls are easy. make that three sci-fi movies i don't like.

― scott seward, Monday, 14 May 2007 02:15 (eighteen years ago)

Guys I just spent 10 minutes of my life looking for a screencap of the GIMME DE CASSHHHHH guy with the wall-hat. He has been sorely neglected on this thread.

WHERE ARE YOU AND YOUR HAT MATHIEU KASSOVITZ

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 14 May 2007 02:16 (eighteen years ago)

i can say no mean things about 'enemy mine' and 'the last starfighter' because i grew up on those movies; they are a part of me. 'mac and me', however, missed me by a few years. comedy sci-fi is not truly sci-fi to me. oh, also in that list of sci-fi for kids/me: 'explorers'

crazy guy with the hat is total french film humour that i don't quite get and kinda cringe at really

― rrrobyn, Monday, 14 May 2007 02:27 (eighteen years ago)

LILU DALLAS MULTIPASS

― gbx, Monday, 14 May 2007 02:33 (eighteen years ago)

rrobyn, have you ever seen creation of the humanoids? it's one of the great stoner sci-fi movies. sooooo trippy. just in case you haven't seen it. i can't recommend it enough. it was supposedly andy warhol's favorite movie, if that means anything to you. it's so weird and trippy (and cheap, but cheap in a great way) and it's basically all about philosphy.

http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/images/creation_of_the_humanoids08.jpg

http://www.cyberpunkreview.com/images/creation_of_the_humanoids03.jpg

― scott seward, Monday, 14 May 2007 02:38 (eighteen years ago)

i will see this movie asap

― rrrobyn, Monday, 14 May 2007 02:42 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

Saw this last night having no idea what to expect and LOVED IT!

― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:47 (fourteen years ago)

This is really a pretty movie and the sfx hold up remarkably well for a ~15 year old movie.

I was surprised how intentionally goofy the film was.

― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:50 (fourteen years ago)

yeah the first time I saw it I was disappointed that it was so silly but now that is why I <3 it

― ullr saves (gbx), Monday, 24 January 2011 23:54 (fourteen years ago)

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:07 (fourteen years ago)

this is the best movie - gary oldman is so great in this

― dayo, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:21 (fourteen years ago)

this sci fi world ranks in my top 5 worlds I want to live in, probably

― dayo, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:21 (fourteen years ago)

Designs by Moebius, that's why.

― Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:22 (fourteen years ago)

dope, dope movie

― omar little, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:22 (fourteen years ago)

It's like Blade Runner if Harrison Ford was replaced by... Bruce Willis.

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:23 (fourteen years ago)

Moebius is far and away the best thing about this movie

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:23 (fourteen years ago)

haah I was just gonna post that this movie is like, there's no way we can outdo Blade Runner, so let's just go in the complete opposite direction.

― dayo, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:23 (fourteen years ago)

Milla Jovanovivivich's boobs rank up there imho. Damn, I had no idea she was so hot. Didn't Besson marry her after this?

― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:25 (fourteen years ago)

this movie is on the side of the light if only because it's a giant expensive sci-fi movie somebody made up inside his own head and worked really hard and obviously lovingly on, and even if everything else about it is terrible it is almost always imaginative. like, gary oldman's plastic head-sheath! bruce's blocky pistol! the now-actually-iconic bandage outfit! i still don't think the movie's all that good but i'd rather have it than 100 slightly better comic book adaptations.

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:29 (fourteen years ago)

I don't think this movie really has anything to do with Bladerunner? it's very European in its sensibility - it's basically just Metal Hurlant-as-film complete with gratuitous tittays, some clumsy scripting/dialogue, overt goofiness, and absolutely amazing design

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:29 (fourteen years ago)

(Bladerunner, by comparison, is VERY American)

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:30 (fourteen years ago)

flying cars, dude

― dayo, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:31 (fourteen years ago)

Guys I just spent 10 minutes of my life looking for a screencap of the GIMME DE CASSHHHHH guy with the wall-hat. He has been sorely neglected on this thread.
WHERE ARE YOU AND YOUR HAT MATHIEU KASSOVITZ
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, May 14, 2007 2:16 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark

still want to know this

― HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:32 (fourteen years ago)

Besson can't make a movie without getting the lead actress pregnant.

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:38 (fourteen years ago)

was just talking about this movie a couple of days ago for some reason
so many things to love about it

― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:38 (fourteen years ago)

Plaaaze haaalp.

― nickalicious, Thursday, May 3, 2007 12:10 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark

RE-LOL

― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:39 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsK/22459-23787.gif

― omar little, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:39 (fourteen years ago)

And I think both movies address the essential question of what it is to be mortal. And flying cars.

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:40 (fourteen years ago)

xp that's a very dangerous looking weapon

― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:45 (fourteen years ago)

fuck yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah xxp

― HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:46 (fourteen years ago)

And I think both movies address the essential question of what it is to be mortal.

oh come on this movie doesn't address anything beyond "ooh wouldn't it be fun/funny IF..."

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:46 (fourteen years ago)

seriously the fact that he was wearing a hat designed to look like the wall escaped me til like my 3rd viewing that is such a hilarious concept

― HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:47 (fourteen years ago)

OK, you got me, it's just the flying cars.

― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:49 (fourteen years ago)

shakey did it ever strike you that the pigs in this movie share a lot in common with replicants, doomed to live a half-life on this planet as outsiders...never to be accepted by real humans...

― dayo, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:49 (fourteen years ago)

i think what besson was attempting to convey with this film was a corrective to the usual dystopian view of future, often portrayed as a grim, bleak, blasted-out wasteland or a polluted worldwide red light district. no, i believe besson's optimistic view of humanity is seen in its fullest form throughout this picture. and so is milla jovovich, hello! O_O

― omar little, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 00:59 (fourteen years ago)

I posted this recently on FB but the diva dance/fight scene part is one of my favorite things. It just works so perfectly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ykH3EA_Zgk

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:02 (fourteen years ago)

love this movie l-o-v-e

― max, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:06 (fourteen years ago)

luke perry is in it wtf

― max, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:06 (fourteen years ago)

wait, what?

HE IS?!

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:07 (fourteen years ago)

yeah dogg hes the sketch artist at the beginning

― max, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:08 (fourteen years ago)

Saw this in theaters, loved it. Own it on DVD, watch it every couple of years. Still love it.

― that's not funny. (unperson), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:33 (fourteen years ago)

this is one of those movies that i dislike so much i kinda break out in hives when my wife watches it on TV, which she does often enough that it's intensified my dislike of it

― trv kvnt (some dude), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:35 (fourteen years ago)

moooooooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllltttiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii pass

― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 01:55 (fourteen years ago)

I don't remember Luke Perry at all.

SD how is that even possible?! Sometimes you make no sense at all.

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:05 (fourteen years ago)

it's just an irksome movie to me? i mean agree or disagree i don't think that's such an odd opinion to have, it seems kind of extreme and divisive to me.

― trv kvnt (some dude), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:09 (fourteen years ago)

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l32/reschlymk/multipass9ju.gif

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:13 (fourteen years ago)

Shakey so OTM for bringing up the Moebius/Jodorowsky connection. J actually was pissed at this movie, since it shares more than a few similarities with The Incal.

Has anyone seen Mathieu Kassovitz's Babylon A.D.? It's like his attempt to make the same movie, only not as well-done, and with Vin Diesel. I think there was some potential in there somewhere, but I really think he just thought he could make a halfass attempt and it'd work.

Oddly enough, he appeared in The Fifth Element as an actor.

― sectarian chicken (mh), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:15 (fourteen years ago)

ENBB gif otm

― sectarian chicken (mh), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:15 (fourteen years ago)

yeah the presence of lukey perry is one of the grandest small treats of this movie, right up there with the wall hat

also LEELOO DALLAS MULTIPASS

― HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:15 (fourteen years ago)

I feel like obv I must have known that he was in it but somehow forgot. It's been a while since I've seen the whole thing tbh. Gonna change that.

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:16 (fourteen years ago)

all I gotta say is

SMOKE YOU!!!

― =(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:20 (fourteen years ago)

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:21 (fourteen years ago)

This is really a pretty movie and the sfx hold up remarkably well for a ~15 year old movie.

you mean a movie that's ~15 years old or a movie whose screenwriter must have been ~15 years old?

― just johnin' (crüt), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:21 (fourteen years ago)

that wasn't a diss btw, I like this movie

― just johnin' (crüt), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:22 (fourteen years ago)

this movie is like, a crucial reference point for a huge amount of jokes between my friend and I

― =(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 02:23 (fourteen years ago)

i think i just realized that i like the wall-hat guy so much cause he's the only hint of ambiguously-latin we get in the movie

'.................you like it?'

― HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 04:09 (fourteen years ago)

'oh rad there are still mexicans in the future go us'

― HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 04:09 (fourteen years ago)

TS: Fifth Element vs. Total Recall

Multipass vs. Two Weeks

Goofy-ass teenage fantasy sci-fi that is much better made than it has any right to be, vs. loosely adapted Dick, ahead of its time almost just by virtue of who wrote it, turned into a Schwarzenegger movie that is also much better made than it has any right to be.

I think it's a fair fight.

― I am Woolen Man. The scarf and I are one. (kenan), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 04:29 (fourteen years ago)

Total Recall wins on story, Fifth Element on visuals.

― Rejoice that you weren't eaten (chap), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 11:38 (fourteen years ago)

better match-up is Dune, which has a similar European sensibility in its design aesthetic and a similar quasi-mystical cosmic angle - but Fifth Element is like the comedy/slapstick take on those angles and Dune is the "serious"/artsy one (Dune is better btw)

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 16:17 (fourteen years ago)

ye gods. fifth element over dune any day, and i'm a huge lynch stan. dune's got ideas for days and astounding visuals, but it all falls apart so horribly no matter which which version you watch. ending is unbearably cheezy, bad enough to be showgirls-style good-bad, but the rest is too long and plodding for that. bleck.

it's better than total recall, too.

― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 16:37 (fourteen years ago)

Dune is more unintentionally hilarious

― =(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDwFgSAOBLA

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 16:56 (fourteen years ago)

total recall's so much better than the fifth element, it's not even funny

― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

Dune is more unintentionally hilarious

― =(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 16:52 (7 minutes ago)

^^^

The Harkonnen are camped up as panto villians, Patrick Stewart is miscast as Gurney Halleck, Sting looks even sillier than usual (in one scene coming out of a sauna wearing only a huge codpiece in the shape of the Harkonnen eagle). But it's still a movie I'd watch again. Same with The Fifth Element. But Total Recall I saw once and don't care about seeing again.

― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:04 (fourteen years ago)

The elephant in the room: Demolition Man

― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:05 (fourteen years ago)

Total Recall is crap, snoball otm

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

even the most ridiculous things in Dune I find charmingly bizarre. every time I watch it I just marvel that anyone ever gave David Lynch that much money.

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:06 (fourteen years ago)

Dune's great to see once and go 'wtf' but you'd never get me to watch it again

― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

guess you guys cant help but j/o lynch over every turd he drops in your eager mouths tho

― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:07 (fourteen years ago)

The elephant in the room: Demolition Man

the rhino in the hall: judge dredd

the hippo in the bath: twelve monkeys

― nanoflymo (ledge), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:08 (fourteen years ago)

The gorilla in the conservatory: Minority Report

― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

guess you guys cant help but j/o lynch over every turd he drops in your eager mouths tho

eh not really. Wild At Heart is unwatchable, and I'm not really that into the Elephant Man

thx for the imagery tho

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:11 (fourteen years ago)

the fifth element is way more intentionally hilarious.

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:12 (fourteen years ago)

and I've never even seen the Straight Story

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:14 (fourteen years ago)

I should say in general I am a big fan of auteurs attempting to make genre movies - like, I wish Spike Lee would make the black sci-fi movie he's always threatened to. Or Polanski doing noir, Kubrick doing scifi etc

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:15 (fourteen years ago)

oh oh oh the flamingo in the allotment: Dino De Laurentiis' 'Flash Gordon'

― Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:16 (fourteen years ago)

flash gordon forever

― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:20 (fourteen years ago)

that is indeed a real thing but it sort of makes me kick at the idea of a "genre film" -- like, are 2001 and chinatown really genre films because they have spaceships and fedoras in them? are lolita and the pianist not genre films? is the fifth element a genre film? what genre is it in? probably not the same genre as 2001. the phrase "genre film" kind of implies a disrespected genre but it's 2010 and chinatown is a Classic and heath ledger won an oscar for playing a supervillain based on a playing card, so at the very least we aren't disrespecting the same genres we used to. i dunno. I DUNNO, MAN

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:22 (fourteen years ago)

Fifth Element and 2001 are both sci-fi films - they have SPACESHIPS and are set in THE FUTURE

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:24 (fourteen years ago)

He's more than dipped his toes in the genre (Existenz, various et ceteras), but Cronenberg's Total Recall is a great big "what if?"

― I can't wait to understand these arguments! (R Baez), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:25 (fourteen years ago)

Fifth Element and 2001 are both sci-fi films - they have SPACESHIPS and are set in THE FUTURE

right but like can you even think of two movies less alike than these? (probably but you get what i'm saying)

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:30 (fourteen years ago)

Cronenberg is more a genre specialist (almost all his films can be fairly classified as either horror, sci-fi, or I dunno, "psychological thriller" or whatever - with some exceptions, esp recently). with Dune Lynch was just dabbling.

right but like can you even think of two movies less alike than these? (probably but you get what i'm saying)

yeah I know, they are very very different in tone and construction and even just in the basic way they're shot, what they're really "about", etc. and yeah I was kinda being facetious/tongue-in-cheek pedantic with the SPACESHIPS/FUTURE comment but still... I do think those big signifiers mean something, they provide a common backdrop against which both films work.

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

A genre film is one that relates to the conventions of the genre, no? Even if ignoring those conventions is part of the point, as with 2001.

― 전승 Complete Victory (in Battle) (NotEnough), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:39 (fourteen years ago)

or dr strangelove being a comedy.

― 전승 Complete Victory (in Battle) (NotEnough), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

I guess the issue was what qualifies as a convention...? Like with Chinatown it's not just the fedoras, it's the backdrop of the political power struggle, the rich/decadent family with the dark secret, the femme fatale, the morally conflicted protagonist. all of those things are common to the genre, they're the building blocks (and then beyond that there are more stylistic conventions like how things are shot, lit, framed. Noir was always big with the light-through-windowshades thing etc.

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:45 (fourteen years ago)

Cronenberg is more a genre specialist (almost all his films can be fairly classified as either horror, sci-fi, or I dunno, "psychological thriller" or whatever - with some exceptions, esp recently).

see the only reason i'm pushing this is that i would say this too, automatically; i would say that spider and a history of violence and eastern promises are fundamentally different, less genre-y, from the brood or dead ringers or maybe even crash. i'm just not sure i can back that up -- isn't a history of violence a "psychological thriller", and isn't eastern promises a "gangster movie", and isn't the brood a drama about childbirth and dead ringers one about siblinghood? the only real serious difference i can be sure of between old cronenberg and new cronenberg is that new cronenberg is less obsessed with tumors. but that's really specific; obviously we can't divide everybody's work between tumor and non-tumor movies.

SO is a genre movie a movie that is at least partially/implicitly about other movies of its kind, like pulp fiction (xp -- yeah like notenough says)? is chinatown one of these, though? it seems to have too much else on its mind to really bother with french-critic-style cinema reference. there's the venetian blinds (xp -- haha) and faye dunaway's eyebrows, but every movie makes stylistic decisions and most movies are influenced by other movies.

maybe it has something to do with recontextualizing cliches -- maybe a genre movie is a movie full of cliches (rich family with dark secret, spaceship in search of intelligent life) that tweaks or plays with those cliches. but again, lots of movies are full of cliches. it feels like there are certain sets of cliches designated Genre Cliches and then there are just regular cliches, the way that certain book publishers claim to work with "literary fiction", and isn't this arbitrary?

i realize i'm not making any kind of argument here and also have derailed the thread, i am just unsure whether genre movies/ungenre movies is a useful dichotomy.

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:50 (fourteen years ago)

chinatown sure is gr8 though

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:51 (fourteen years ago)

it's an interesting question, but i'm not sure i have an interesting answer. you mentioned "disrespected" upthread, and that's a decent place to start. i think genres typically arise organically, in response to an audience's desires. the conventions of a genre emerge and solidify over time in response to the interaction of a group of writers and publishers with an audience. the readers of mystery novels, for instance, don't just want to read "a book." they want to read (and hopefully solve) a mystery. like western fans want horse operas about good guys and bad guys. like romance fans want stories about people falling in love and sci-fi fans want the delivery of technology's promises and threats. genre fans are often uninterested in the conventionally literary aspects of the storytelling and writing. they want clean simple prose and idealized characters with plots that race along to satisfying conclusions. these things help drag genre fans into the alternate realities they wish to inhabit. in this sense, most genre fiction is fundamentally escapist. this is why genres are disrespected, i think - because genres are adapted to such demands, because these demands are a sort of fetish that has nothing to do with the ways in which we typically measure literary quality.

― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 19:08 (fourteen years ago)

judge dredd is a fucking great movie until rob schneider shows up

― dayo, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 23:32 (fourteen years ago)

I think you answered your own question here - the way I understand 'genre' films like the ones you listed (2001, chinatown, etc.) is exactly in the way they play with and subvert common reference points found in other movies of that genre. being a genre film doesn't necessarily mean sticking to the conventions of the genre, but maybe is more about sticking it to the conventions of the genre.

― dayo, Tuesday, 25 January 2011 23:34 (fourteen years ago)

i dont think thats true at all

― plax (ico), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 23:39 (fourteen years ago)

like i would think that a lot of schlocky b-movies would qualify as "genre" pictures. I think it needs to be part of a genre w/ a heavily encoded type of signifier. I mean that seems to be what separates these noir-gangster or sci-fi movies (indeed westerns, musicals) genre movies need to be rooted in spec. traditions of movies that are strongly defined by a particular type of imagery or convention. I mean if people start breaking into song its a musical and in that sense its a genre picture in a way thats not so clear cut w/ for eg. comedies (a movie having jokes or funny moments is not by def. a comedy, a movie with a lot of stetsons and cattle is a cowboy movie)

― plax (ico), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 23:45 (fourteen years ago)

Total Recall is crap, snoball otm

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 17:06 (6 hours ago)

You can't see it because his fingers are all gnarled up, but Kuato is shooting the bird at you

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 23:52 (fourteen years ago)

http://goremasternews.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/kuato-in-total-recall.jpg

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 23:52 (fourteen years ago)

Someone kept saying "three shelves" in a meeting at work today and I kept hearing "three shells" and thinking of Demolition Man!

― sectarian chicken (mh), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 23:54 (fourteen years ago)

anyway, basically any movie that ends with the secret of the universe being "love" = fuck that movie in the skull, forever

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 23:54 (fourteen years ago)

"SO is a genre movie a movie that is at least partially/implicitly about other movies of its kind, like pulp fiction"

i'd be inclined to say that genre movies are just more appealing to directors like tarantino whose movies are really about other movies to an unusual extent just because their conventions are so sharply defined.

― plax (ico), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 23:55 (fourteen years ago)

loved demolition man when it come out

― ullr saves (gbx), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 23:55 (fourteen years ago)

demolition man's a stone cold classic - and it's actually aged pretty well

― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 23:58 (fourteen years ago)

judge dredd was a huge missed opportunity - great set & costume design, stallone's the perfect guy to play dredd in a way, but then they had to fucked it up by taking his helmet off - still notable for this exchange

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6cyDsuNx_U

― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Tuesday, 25 January 2011 23:59 (fourteen years ago)

then they had to fucked it up by taking his helmet off

for real. ruined it completely imo, it was like it was about a different dude altogether

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:01 (fourteen years ago)

can't have a Hollywood blockbuster where you never see the star's face now can you

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:02 (fourteen years ago)

yeah cosign the demolition man love

― dayo, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:03 (fourteen years ago)

can't have a Hollywood blockbuster where you never see the star's face now can you

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:02 AM (53 seconds ago) Bookmark

they're called animated movies now can you please jump into a vat of acid FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:04 (fourteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fwFnSi_esI

― dayo, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:04 (fourteen years ago)

plax I agree w/ what you're saying but don't see how it contradicts what I said?

― dayo, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:05 (fourteen years ago)

they're called animated movies

haha waht

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:05 (fourteen years ago)

the star in animated movies is THE ANIMATION

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:06 (fourteen years ago)

Have never totally understood the "Dune" hate. I've always seen the Director's Cut tho, so maybe that's the problem...

― Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:08 (fourteen years ago)

i would be totally okay with a judge dredd reboot, fwiw

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:08 (fourteen years ago)

plax I agree w/ what you're saying but don't see how it contradicts what I said?

― dayo, Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:05 AM (1 minute ago)

idk i guess i was picking up that you were implying a certain amt of reflexivity in genre pictures which i dont think is true but idk maybe i was reading b/w the lines too much

― plax (ico), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:09 (fourteen years ago)

well I was implying a certain amt of reflexivity but only in those pics which seem to be consciously playing around w/ conventions like 2001 and chinatown

― dayo, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:10 (fourteen years ago)

well i guess im not gonna get an argument here

― plax (ico), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:10 (fourteen years ago)

the star in animated movies is THE ANIMATION

I'VE NEVER SEEN A MOVIE WITH "THE ANIMATION" ON THE POSTER

VAT OF ACID!

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:11 (fourteen years ago)

u need a multipass for that

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:11 (fourteen years ago)

xp but w/e that works i guess

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:11 (fourteen years ago)

basically I think no art is created ex nihilo and all art on some level can be understood in how it conforms to/doesn't conform to existing conventions of the sphere it's working in

sue me

― dayo, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:11 (fourteen years ago)

it's when people start assigning intention to the artist that I get crazy. anyways, taco bell was the only franchise to survive the franchise wars

― dayo, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:12 (fourteen years ago)

while we're talking about 90s sci-fi movies, what about sphere

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

worst movie ever

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

oh that movie was so great/terrible!

― plax (ico), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

it totally flipped the script and conformed to YOUR expectations....and fears

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

"look its not reflecting us!"

― plax (ico), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

i would be totally okay with a judge dredd reboot, fwiw

― ullr saves (gbx), Tuesday, January 25, 2011 7:08 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

you're getting your wish, they're shooting it now in south africa with karl urban as dredd

― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

i would be totally okay with a judge dredd reboot, fwiw

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:08 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

yall know this is occurring, right?

― HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:14 (fourteen years ago)

The first image of Karl Urban as Judge Dredd has gone online. Actually, it’s the first image of Karl Urban’s lower-face an that’s all of his visage that you’ll see in the movie since the character won’t be removing his helm

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:14 (fourteen years ago)

iirc sandra bullock was pretty good in demolition man as well, kind of a decent amusing role.

― omar little, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:15 (fourteen years ago)

kind of a decent amusing role.

pretty sure this describes like 90% of her work, right

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:15 (fourteen years ago)

sandy's sort of underrated as an actress even with the oscar, luv her imo

http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/images/2010/11/judge-dredd.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2011/01/judgedreddcycle.jpg

― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:15 (fourteen years ago)

"look its not reflecting us!"

― plax (ico), Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:13 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

For crappy Crichton adaptations I'd rather go with Congo. Way sillier plus you can actually see what's happening in the movie.

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:16 (fourteen years ago)

The first image of Karl Urban as Judge Dredd has gone online. Actually, it’s the first image of Karl Urban’s lower-face an that’s all of his visage that you’ll see in the movie since the character won’t be removing his helm

will believe it when I see it.

I recall a huge deal being made at the time over Hugo Weaving not taking his mask off in V for Vendetta (movie still sucked btw)

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:16 (fourteen years ago)

oof those stills are kinda...80s looking.

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:17 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.toplessrobot.com/judge_dredd_1994_reference.jpg

― dayo, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:17 (fourteen years ago)

eh its not a big budget movie - the bike reminds me of mad max weirdly

― marios balls in 3d for 3ds (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:18 (fourteen years ago)

oof those stills are kinda...80s looking.

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:17 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i wouldn't have it any other way tbh

― HOOS the master?? STEEN NUFF (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:19 (fourteen years ago)

thats exactly what came to mind

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:19 (fourteen years ago)

yeah i think i might actually like it if its kinda budget/80s/non-CGI looking? the comics themselves are such a product of the 80s (at least in my recollection) that i'd respect an aesthetic choice that harkened back to a grungier look

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:21 (fourteen years ago)

yeah judge dredd wearing flannel & shit

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:21 (fourteen years ago)

that was the 90s.

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:23 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.carolineglick.com/e/loser.jpg

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:23 (fourteen years ago)

i was going with the "grungier look" part of your sentence jeez dude

plus Sub Pop/grunge got started 88-89

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:25 (fourteen years ago)

NOT THAT IT MATTERS

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:25 (fourteen years ago)

ps i know, guy

― ullr saves (gbx), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:26 (fourteen years ago)

what's your glitch, fellas

― omar little, Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:32 (fourteen years ago)

lolz

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 00:35 (fourteen years ago)

SO is a genre movie a movie that is at least partially/implicitly about other movies of its kind, like pulp fiction (xp -- yeah like notenough says)? is chinatown one of these, though? it seems to have too much else on its mind to really bother with french-critic-style cinema reference. there's the venetian blinds (xp -- haha) and faye dunaway's eyebrows, but every movie makes stylistic decisions and most movies are influenced by other movies.

i guess i'm still a bit baffled by this question. we know what genre films are, right? the one thing we can comfortably say about genres is that they are heavily codified and their conventions are a common language. because the formal rules that define these genres are so explicit and well understood, it's usually fairly easy to recognize the films that play with or within them. given a working familiarity with the conventions of noir private eye and science fiction films, we're likely to recognize that chinatown and 2001 do belong, more or less, to those genres. the fact that neither film is wholly confined by the usual concerns and strategies of its respective genre doesn't make make it a non-genre piece. it's not like chinatown and 2001 really explode or transcend the confines of genre, they simply think expansively within it.

you could look at this in reverse (as you suggest) and say that, yes, genre films are in a sense about genre, and about their precedents within the genre. in working within a set of formal conventions, genre films necessarily critique those conventions and comment on what it is to be a thing of that genre. this diminishes the distinction between "straight" genre films and revisionist pictures that make their critique of genre more explicit.

― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 02:10 (fourteen years ago)

i don't really wish anyone would jump into a vat of acid, for the record

― the size of Snow's skin pistol (latebloomer), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 13:01 (fourteen years ago)

Dune is more unintentionally hilarious

― =(^ • ‿‿ • ^)= (corey), Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:52 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Yes.

It is at least a little awesome though because it has a pug in it.

I don't know what's worse, the fact that OL might have used "glitch" as a Reality Bites reference or the fact that I know enough dialogue from RB that I either picked up on or read too much into it.

― ‎$^o$ (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 26 January 2011 14:29 (fourteen years ago)

seven months pass...

Just rewatched this again for the first time in who knows how long and basically had forgotten how ridiculously perfect it is. Also I'm very surprised nobody's singled out the lead general on the thread yet, in that he was played by Brion James...who played Leon the replicant in Blade Runner.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 11 September 2011 05:33 (thirteen years ago)

These were back-to-back on SyFy about a month ago and I watched them both without catching that.

― kkvgz, Monday, 12 September 2011 00:24 (thirteen years ago)

Aw I wanna watch it now.

― your mom the burrito (ENBB), Monday, 12 September 2011 00:28 (thirteen years ago)

yeah the fifth element is totally unfuckwithable

― dayo, Monday, 12 September 2011 00:29 (thirteen years ago)

best movie

― ice cr?m, Monday, 12 September 2011 00:32 (thirteen years ago)

It was on TV about 2 weeks ago and Just rewatched this again for the first time in who knows how long and basically had forgotten how ridiculously perfect it is. was pretty much the case.

I loved this as a serious action movie as 10 year old, detested it as a reactionary, destroy-all-mass-culture teenager, and as a 23 year old love it as an insanely fun and funny movie. In fact, I was thinking up all sorts of Flohston paradise references earlier today.

P.S. http://www.jimbo.info/weblog/2009/05/20/3358g1v.jpg.gif

― Pee Wee Hermeneutician (EDB), Monday, 12 September 2011 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

RUBY RHOD 4 EVER <3 <3 <3

― Pee Wee Hermeneutician (EDB), Monday, 12 September 2011 00:46 (thirteen years ago)

This is sort of hypnotic to watch, also:

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lli26ixjjM1qa6ql2o1_500.gif

― Pee Wee Hermeneutician (EDB), Monday, 12 September 2011 00:49 (thirteen years ago)

*_*

― ice cr?m, Monday, 12 September 2011 00:51 (thirteen years ago)

Quiver ladies, quiver... He's going to set the world on fire.

― Pee Wee Hermeneutician (EDB), Monday, 12 September 2011 00:52 (thirteen years ago)

s0 dope

― Lamp, Monday, 12 September 2011 02:00 (thirteen years ago)

Saw this in theaters. Fucking loved it. Own it on DVD - it was actually paired with Gattaca for like $8, in a bin by the cash register at a grocery store I no longer shop at.

― that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 12 September 2011 02:44 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

I just saw this for the first time!! SO MUCH FUCKING FUN

― walk in the room they throwin Sade left to right (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 3 June 2013 04:51 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

this movie is rotten with halloween costume opportunities

This is true. You all have a month and a half.

ANYWAY

http://io9.com/luc-besson-still-wants-to-make-another-fifth-element-1304352611

Not a sequel, just another film in the same vein.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 September 2013 02:41 (eleven years ago)

multipass

― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Friday, 13 September 2013 02:55 (eleven years ago)

three years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIGvm9zttV8&feature=youtu.be

― nomar, Friday, 16 June 2017 22:24 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIGvm9zttV8

― nomar, Friday, 16 June 2017 22:24 (eight years ago)

The Fifth Element 153 new answers
Marlon Brando 29 new answers
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, May 3, 2007 10:22 AM (ten years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

― sleepingbag, Friday, 16 June 2017 22:26 (eight years ago)

According to Napoleon Bonaparte, the fifth element is mud.

― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 17 June 2017 03:44 (eight years ago)

six years pass...

Uh-oh.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66407099

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 August 2023 18:47 (one year ago)

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