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http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/6879/storyvk8.gif
― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 1 June 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)
Oh Charley, you're the robust predecessor of all my heroes.
― Abbott, Saturday, 2 June 2007 01:24 (eighteen years ago)
The critics rave:
The atmosphere grew so tense that actor Nick Kroll, who plays the sardonic caveman Nick, aimed for something between comic relief and gallows humor."I was told there was gonna be a laugh track here," Kroll told the mostly stone-faced press tour crowd, "but I guess that's not the case."
"I was told there was gonna be a laugh track here," Kroll told the mostly stone-faced press tour crowd, "but I guess that's not the case."
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 July 2007 12:44 (eighteen years ago)
Now if this show is going to be all about a bunch of cavemen who get a show and everyone hates it, I'm watching.
― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 26 July 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)
i re-watched the coneheads movie a month ago... it's so much better than it has any right to be. really quality stuff all the way through.
― get bent, Thursday, 26 July 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)
Another report:
Eight white men onstage told TV critics, columnists and reporters that the new sitcom "Cavemen" -- in which the cavemen are depicted as great dancers, naturally athletic and able to drive blondes crazy with their sexual prowess -- is not, as one critic suggested, "the series about black folk that ABC was too scared to make.""In terms of them standing in for any one group, that's not our intention," executive producer Josh Gordon said in response to the question posed by Eric Deggans of the St. Petersburg Times. Deggans, who is African American, based his comment on the pilot episode, which will not be the first episode of the series after all, critics were told. It will air later in the show's run -- after it's canceled, if we're all very good and eat our vegetables."We're aware that the pilot seems to lean a little bit more in that direction," Gordon said. "But in the episodes that we're sort of coming up with now, we never saw them as, again, a stand-in for one group."The critics didn't buy it. One noted that in that pilot there "weren't a lot of stereotypes of other ethnic groups.""You just loaded up on one particular one. . . . How could you have thought that wasn't going to be a problem?" the reporter asked.Here's where the executive producers began to talk about the show being "subtle" and "about acclimation."The critics: still not buying it."You said you want it to be subtle -- the show we saw is anything but subtle," one said. "It's not going to be about black discrimination, but that's the only thing the show we saw is. What are some of these episodes going to be if they're not going to be an allegory for racial relations and you say they're going to be subtle -- what can we expect?"Don't worry, they were told. It will all become much clearer when they see the new episode in which one of the cavemen is shown to be -- very lazy.
"In terms of them standing in for any one group, that's not our intention," executive producer Josh Gordon said in response to the question posed by Eric Deggans of the St. Petersburg Times. Deggans, who is African American, based his comment on the pilot episode, which will not be the first episode of the series after all, critics were told. It will air later in the show's run -- after it's canceled, if we're all very good and eat our vegetables.
"We're aware that the pilot seems to lean a little bit more in that direction," Gordon said. "But in the episodes that we're sort of coming up with now, we never saw them as, again, a stand-in for one group."
The critics didn't buy it. One noted that in that pilot there "weren't a lot of stereotypes of other ethnic groups."
"You just loaded up on one particular one. . . . How could you have thought that wasn't going to be a problem?" the reporter asked.
Here's where the executive producers began to talk about the show being "subtle" and "about acclimation."
The critics: still not buying it.
"You said you want it to be subtle -- the show we saw is anything but subtle," one said. "It's not going to be about black discrimination, but that's the only thing the show we saw is. What are some of these episodes going to be if they're not going to be an allegory for racial relations and you say they're going to be subtle -- what can we expect?"
Don't worry, they were told. It will all become much clearer when they see the new episode in which one of the cavemen is shown to be -- very lazy.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 July 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)
This kind of thing becomes less bewildering to me when I think about the people I've met who've expressed the desire or intent to move to LA and write for television comedy.
― nabisco, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)
http://telemaniac.free.fr/rodriguez.jpg
― Phil D., Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)
this show sounds like a stunning analysis of racial relations in Atlanta, what with widespread concern about black cavemen stealing our blonde white women with their sexual prowess
― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)
I absolutely LOVED Slowpoke Rodriguez when I was a kid. Some part of me still objects that he was not stereotype-related and was just the natural counterpart to Speedy. Also I related to him way more than Speedy, but I guess that's just because I'm non-white and honnnngry.
― nabisco, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:10 (eighteen years ago)
critics: black people are like THIS stoner writers: waht?
― gabbneb, Thursday, 26 July 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)
Some part of me still objects that he was not stereotype-related and was just the natural counterpart to Speedy.
Oh, I liked Slowpoke too, but this here kind of forces the question as to why Speedy was funny in the first place. (If you think he was.) i.e., "A super-fast Mexican? Ludicrous!"
― Phil D., Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)
mouse on speed shouting Spanglish at high volume = funny!!
― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)
I never really thought of Speedy as funny! He was just a straightforward hero, traveling around Mexico providing cheese to starving villagers. All the humor came from cheese-guarding cats getting screwed -- same way the roadrunner is completely humorless, but Wile E. Coyote getting screwed is hilarious.
― nabisco, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:20 (eighteen years ago)
Interestingly, "He was just a straightforward hero, traveling around Mexico providing cheese to starving villagers" is the logline for Jared Hess's next movie.
I disagree about either Speedy or the Road Runner being humorless, but I find humor in them outside the narrative but in the poses, characterization, etc.
― Phil D., Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:24 (eighteen years ago)
Speedy's fairly benign in terms of racist cartoon caricatures (of which there are MANY)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:26 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah, Speedy makes me feel the same way as Apu, where i thought they were funny before i was even old enough to totally understand/recognize the stereotype the character parodies or personifies. So i keep wanting to put the genie back in the bottle and just enjoy them as a funny cartoon character with a funny voice that just happens to be a caricatured accent.
Also the Roadrunner TOTALLY is funny, with or without the context of Wile E. Coyote chasing him. For shit's sake, his only line of dialogue is "meep meep."
― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:32 (eighteen years ago)
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― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)
WHAT???? The second, "Mexican Boarders" (1962), revolves around Speedy trying to protect Slowpoke from Sylvester the cat, but in the end, Slowpoke demonstrates his ability to hypnotize Sylvester into becoming his slave. This short (which was later edited into Bugs Bunny's 3rd Movie: 1001 Rabbit Tales) contains a possible allusion to a marijuana habit when Slowpoke sings La Cucaracha. English Translation of what Slowpoke Rodríguez says: "The roach, the roach, can't walk any more, because it needs, because it needs, marijuana to smoke"
― mizzell, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:38 (eighteen years ago)
serious question: do cavemen drink Moolattes?
― kenan, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)
For shit's sake, his only line of dialogue is "meep meep."
He also does that tongue-waggling noise thing, which is hilarious.
― Phil D., Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:43 (eighteen years ago)
Oh yeah, I thought about that one! Great stuff.
― Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 26 July 2007 19:46 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Nr4xnx8xs
― and what, Thursday, 30 August 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)
hahaha
― latebloomer, Thursday, 30 August 2007 16:54 (eighteen years ago)
Ugh. Now I feel like I have to retroactively hate the original commercials, which I liked quite a bit.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:32 (eighteen years ago)
i don't see how you could not get this from the commercials
― tremendoid, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)
(crazy pills wearing off...sigh)
Wow, I never saw that Slowpoke Rodriguez one before. The twist ending is pretty fabulous, if the Cavemen show was out of left field like that I would actually be sort of interested.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 30 August 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)
thing is, if it were actually about black people, it still would be too obvious to be funny. The only way this could work is if the cavemen had specific caveman problems, like having a really weird diet or not understanding how modern tools work, etc.
― kenan, Thursday, 30 August 2007 18:02 (eighteen years ago)
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/images/2007/09/28/cavemen.jpg
The latest BS:
ABC’s new sitcom, inspired by the Geico insurance ads, is scheduled to debut at 8:30 p.m. Tuesday, but advance copies haven’t been made available to critics, leading some to suspect the show is DOA. Not true, says an ABC spokesman. Copies haven’t gone out because they’re not done. “They’re not ready,” the spokesman said. “They want the finishing touches” completed before critics take a peek, and that won’t happen before the premiere. “That’s all there is to it.”The show revolves around a clutch of hairy, prehistoric men who struggle to be understood in the modern world. It got a cool reception at the Television Critics Assn. press tour in Beverly Hills this summer for playing too much like a clunky racial allegory. Since then, one of the leads has been recast and the pilot reshot. New writers and consultants have also been brought on board.ABC will find out soon enough whether the revisions work. Working heavily in the show’s favor: No other new program has such instant recognizability thanks to those TiVo-defying Geico ads.The ABC spokesman has seen a rough cut, and admits to being biased, but says that naysayers may be surprised: “I think it’s funny.”
The show revolves around a clutch of hairy, prehistoric men who struggle to be understood in the modern world. It got a cool reception at the Television Critics Assn. press tour in Beverly Hills this summer for playing too much like a clunky racial allegory. Since then, one of the leads has been recast and the pilot reshot. New writers and consultants have also been brought on board.
ABC will find out soon enough whether the revisions work. Working heavily in the show’s favor: No other new program has such instant recognizability thanks to those TiVo-defying Geico ads.
The ABC spokesman has seen a rough cut, and admits to being biased, but says that naysayers may be surprised: “I think it’s funny.”
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 September 2007 19:33 (eighteen years ago)
I didn't know "clutch" is the group noun for hairy, prehistoric men.
― Abbott, Friday, 28 September 2007 19:36 (eighteen years ago)
Fun fact: one of the lead "cavemen" played a thinly veiled hybrid of Ryan Schreiber and Brent DiCrescenzo on Human Giant.
Seems fitting.
― Melissa W, Friday, 28 September 2007 19:39 (eighteen years ago)
"Tivo-defying"?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 28 September 2007 19:40 (eighteen years ago)
Does tivo refuse to fast forward through them? (See: Tuesday's Colbert Report)
― Abbott, Friday, 28 September 2007 19:41 (eighteen years ago)
This eyeroller is finally premiering tonight. I do think the first episode will get decent ratings just on the watercooler factor alone.
― Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:27 (eighteen years ago)
Apparently a "clutch" is a term for chicks (as in birds (not as in girls, as in the real kind)), not cavemen. I'm just saying.
― Will M., Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:34 (eighteen years ago)
ILX needs a bookee. Anyone giving me 2:1 on this getting renewed for a second season is on.
― wanko ergo sum, Tuesday, 2 October 2007 22:36 (eighteen years ago)
woah terrible. so hard to watch.
― chaki, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 03:18 (eighteen years ago)
You're a far braver man than I, sir.
― en i see kay, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 03:21 (eighteen years ago)
i do my own version of best week ever in my basement. i need to know this stuff.
― chaki, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 03:24 (eighteen years ago)
Which of the cavemen is the funny caveman?
― Clay, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 03:30 (eighteen years ago)
This was a lot better than I would have thought it would be. I'm not saying it was great, but it wasn't really all that horrible, and certainly better than say oh "Back to You" or "According to Jim."
― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 03:55 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah, not as horrible or cheap-looking as I expected (lighting-wise it almost looked like it was shot as a drama).
― Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 04:03 (eighteen years ago)
"Back to You"
The amount of side-of-the-bus ads I've seen for that thing with Kelsey Grammer's evilly grinning mug and Patricia Heaton looking tart make me want to kill all the white people.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 04:26 (eighteen years ago)
WELCOME TO MY WORLD NED RAGGETT
― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 04:27 (eighteen years ago)
LET US MURDER TOGETHER
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 04:31 (eighteen years ago)
uh ned?
― Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 04:36 (eighteen years ago)
I thought you just said you wanted to kill all the white people too!
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 04:40 (eighteen years ago)
Is this srsly the only way for white guys to publicly talk about race?
Gill's right about the lighting, though -- it's nice.
― vermonter, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 05:13 (eighteen years ago)
Is the Geico sitcom the only white guy method of discussing race, or mass genocide:?
― Abbott, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 05:18 (eighteen years ago)
why do they have to mutually exclusive?
― max, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 05:49 (eighteen years ago)
So then was it rong to laugh when the caveman fell into the bourgie country club fire and enacted the caveman stereotype?
This seems to fall into the 'queasy racial comedy' category, along with 'Black Knight' and 'Bringing Down the House.'
― vermonter, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 05:51 (eighteen years ago)
it was terrible. the lighting looked like geico commercials. wtf you guys are dumb. even nick swardsen wasnt funny.
― chaki, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 05:56 (eighteen years ago)
i watched this for one minute. unfunny and lame.
― omar little, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 06:29 (eighteen years ago)
I actually had some hope for this. Somehow, someway, I think it could be pulled off. But from watching last night, it seems that the creators decided to go lowbrow.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 11:14 (eighteen years ago)
And why are there so many cavemen?
― Jeff, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 11:15 (eighteen years ago)
look! cavement texting. craaaaaaazy.
― Jeff, Wednesday, 3 October 2007 11:28 (eighteen years ago)
who the fuck thought it was a good idea to make the gecko switch to full-on cockney? he sounds like nigel tufnel
― kingfish, Monday, 25 August 2008 03:14 (seventeen years ago)
i kind of like the cockney. don't like this crap with the faux nature show guy following him though.
― latebloomer, Monday, 25 August 2008 04:44 (seventeen years ago)
I first saw this one when I was traveling through Prague.
― soup kitchen electro (omar little), Friday, 12 December 2008 21:43 (seventeen years ago)
unsurreal!
― Aimless, Saturday, 13 December 2008 02:02 (seventeen years ago)
may 2007? weird. this seems like it happened like, 3.2 years ago.
never saw a bit of this.
― extremely intoxicated & uncooperative outside a Hסּסּters in Winston-Salem (will), Saturday, 13 December 2008 02:08 (seventeen years ago)
Hoping for DVD set in my stocking this Christmas.
― өөө (Pleasant Plains), Saturday, 13 December 2008 03:51 (seventeen years ago)
misread: A Sitcom about Geir Hongro
― M.V., Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:56 (seventeen years ago)
Also: Am waiting for Geico mashup wherein cavemen eats gecko.
― M.V., Saturday, 13 December 2008 04:57 (seventeen years ago)
Maybe the cavemen could also eat anyone who's been to fucking Jared.
― Bill Magill, Saturday, 13 December 2008 20:04 (seventeen years ago)
I didn't mind the commercials much at first, and even the show was kinda-sorta OK, but after its failure it seems kind of ridiculous that they're back to making cavemen commercials again. Those dudes need to just go away.
― Piney G. Pinefoxen (some dude), Saturday, 13 December 2008 20:20 (seventeen years ago)
not to be the antagonist, but I absolutely love those cavemen (and I hate the lizard). The caveman at the tennis match - classic. The caveman at the airport where I first heard the royksopp song - classic. Whatever the hell this one is that I just found on youtube - fucking class act.
I think what I dig about the caveman is that:1) He's a caveman2) He is living in another era3) He is pissed off and so stupid that he doesn't even realize he is losing his tennis match to billy jean king by 665 points (take a gander at the scoreboard)
hilarity ensues, yada yada yadas, I wonder if the actor really has extremely hairly legs...
― ❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Saturday, 13 December 2008 20:41 (seventeen years ago)