Explain hot dish

minnesotan for a casserole. potatoes and green beans are popular ingredients.

Lock thread.

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THIS IS A TRADITIONAL HOTDISH, SERVED "LUTHERAN BRUNCH MEETING" STYLE.

Don't let John fool you: those are actually Episcopalians, and that's a casserole.

"Hot dish" is supposed to have a can of cream of mushroom soup in it.

When I was served it was not potatoes but "tater tots". Haute cuisine it was not. Hell it wasn't even hearty cuisine.

A typical recipe. I found this is the First English Lutheran Church cookbook, from Cannon Falls, MN (the church my grandmother goes to). I will copy it exactly as written:

Chicken Hot Dish

2 c. diced chicken
1/2 c. diced onion
1 c. diced celery
Mushroom pieces
1 c. mushroom soup
Approx. 2 c. chow mein noodles

Combine all ingredients; add more liquid if it seems dry. Bake at 350 degrees.

Variation: Cashews or almonds may be added to mixture and/or sprinkled on top. Chow mein noodles may be added to top.

Is hot dish like hot lunch?

Is hot lunch a casserole with crm of mushroom/celery/chix soup in it? If so then y.

Otherwise, n.

No it isn't.

There are approximately 15 pages of recipes like the one I posted, all of which will come out tasting remarkably similar to one another - no matter what "cream of" soup you add or whether you are using chicken or hamburger.

Hell it wasn't even hearty cuisine.

Every time I have to eat hot dish, I wind up going home and eating something else afterward.

ha ha, no, "hot lunch" is totally different. Unless hot dish is on the menu.

I'm being snarky. I know. But that's what "hot dish" reminds me off.

I kind of want to challenge Ned to make hot dish and then post pictures to the cooking thread.

HOT DISH

http://mary-louise-parker.konta.waw.pl/galerie/IMAGES/mary-louise-parker-5.jpg

Please makes sure you don't accidently ask for him to do a hot lunch.

Even I would never go that far.

Astounding.

WHITE PEOPLE FOOD

Someone needs to make lutefisk hotdish.

lutefisk = fish jello

i like recipes that involve the phrase "combine all ingredients"

xp Oh I know what it is! :D

The college I went to has an annual lutefisk dinner that people actually pay to go to. I will never forget the smell of the cafeteria and the surrounding building. Very distracting right before finals!

wait, dan m, you're not a Minnesotan, are you?

No, I'm from MI, but I have some very very Norweigian Minnesotan friends.

I know what lutefisk is but unfortunately this is b/c I sometimes listen to Garrison Keilor.

hotdish does not sound very appealing to me :(

No, I'm from MI, but I have some very very Norweigian Minnesotan friends.

Everything is clear now.

chicken pasta hot dish (has cornflakes in it, even!)

i feel lucky that i never had to try lutefisk

The hot dish can be topped with Chow Mein Noodles or Durkee Fried Onions after 1/2 hour of baking time.

my Lutheran cookbook has a pizza hot dish that is essentially potatos 'n' ground beef (we use fake ground beef, sacrilege I know) and tomato sauce w/oregano and cumin, topped with cheese and of course baked at 350 for an hour

I KNOW REAL RECOGNIZE REAL

tastes about like any other food-extending all-in-one easy-bake casserole. the grand success of campbells was convincing people to use their condensed soups as a pre-made flavoring, spicing, and sauce for big meals.

its true Platonic nature remains elusive

Here we have the unanswered question. The soul of hot dish, its sine qua non is a certain bland satisfaction. The more deeply it dives into the subliminal, preconscious, mindless desire for belly-fullness, while still presenting to the concious mind (and tongue) a surface quality of blandness**, the more perfect the hot dish recipe.

**The concept of blandness, as used in this context, is not synonymous with lack of flavor, but more accurately denotes an equalness, or indistinguishability, among flavors, in rather the same way that a plateau may rise above a plain, while still resembling it in flatness.

the symbolic iconography of hotdish

btw Aimless I seriously think you have nailed something pretty key above

The dish is usually seasoned lightly with salt and pepper, and it may be eaten with ketchup as a condiment.

-_-

Cream of mushroom soup is so ubiquitous in hotdish that it is often referred to in such recipes as “Lutheran Binder,” referring to hotdish’s position as a staple of Lutheran church cookbooks. The soup is considered a defining ingredient by some commentators.[4]

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/Hotdish.jpg

,_,

hotdish and brett favre hatred are the only rational reasons why anyone would hate on MN AFAIC.

ugh cream of mushroom soup

i mean why

Aimless's post is a thing of beauty.

(Hotdish is not.)

xpost hot dish sounds like the devils vomit. please let's not discuss this ever again.

― everyone kills people (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Monday, January 25, 2010 12:01 AM (4 weeks ago) Bookmark

i can't believe it exists! i should have voted for a midwestern state in the worst state poll

Hotdish is an integral element of the book Hotdish to Die For, a collection of six culinary mystery short stories in which the weapon of choice is hotdish.

THNKNG U WIKIPEDIA

poisoning, poisoning, poisoning, bludgeon, poisoning, poisoning

poisoning, poisoning, poisoning, bludgeon, poisoning, poisoning

what, did they bludgeon the victim with a hot dish casserole dish?

oh ha no i just threw that in myself. i have no idea.

Bludgeoning wiht those tatertots perhaps, they look kind of deadly.

hotdish does not sound very appealing to me :(

― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, June 15, 2007 11:27 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^ I find it more appealing now btw

haha the chicken hot dish my family makes every holiday is really good! melted cheese, broccoli, chicken, and yes, cream of mushroom soup, I believe. the emphasis is on the chicken and broccoli and cheese; hence good.

For a Christmas dinner in London, the non-Minnesotan amongst us wanted green bean hotdish (hotdish is a compound word in MN) and I had to hoof it around the finer department stores (where there are American product sections for your Betty Crocker and Libby's pumpkin needs plus Kraft mac and cheese dinners for £3) looking for Durkee french fried onions. Despite seemingly offering all the other Durkee products (Fluff and similar) at one store, sales assistant was baffled at all these people wanting the french fried onions they didn't stock. SO ORDER THEM IN, NUMBSKULL smh at capitalism, British style. There's been a rise in expats who want to celebrate the holidays American-style so it seemed a no-brainer to have something in stock that thousands would buy.

hotdish is a compound word in MN

hahaha this explains so much about my childhood propensity for jamming words together

My mom did do the bean casserole every so often (no meat or canned tuna, puke) but preferred to 'help' her hamburger make a great meal.

See now, I grew up with creamy casseroles like tuna bake and things with crushed chips on top as a kid - but we didn't use canned soup - this seems to be a US thing. We always had it with bechamel made from scratch (or cream, or combo thereof), with added cheapy Keens curry powder, and often horrid additions like pineapple, apple or sultanas urghhh.

My mom would use crushed potato chips as a coating for "fried chicken" and I hated it. Also, pasta pie, for lazy/tired moms who don't make lasagna.

The aus version of that is crushed cornflakes. In fact I think Kellogs even make cornflake crumbs in a box for such purposes.

TS: hot dish vs. hot mess

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/80/Hotdish.jpg

This tots topping is blowing my mind.

tater tot hot dish is king of all foods

hot tot dish wish

or tot hot dish wish?

my mom cooked a lot of trad american food when i was growing up, but aside from baked mac & cheese i don't remember her ever making a casserole. this thread fascinates me.

cookin up a hot dish tater tot plot

haha the chicken hot dish my family makes every holiday is really good! melted cheese, broccoli, chicken, and yes, cream of mushroom soup, I believe. the emphasis is on the chicken and broccoli and cheese; hence good.

― Please Do Not Swagga Jack Me (Matos W.K.), Thursday, February 25, 2010 12:16 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark

this sounds like maybe it is chicken divan? my minnesota lutheran mom used to make this for dinner all the time, always a hit. you can top that bad boy with some crumbled up ritz crackers too if you've got company over that you wish to impress.

for the first time in my life i'm making something that is actually maybe akin to hotdish?!

root vegetables sliced thin and tossed in a casserole dish with melted butter
salt, pepper, chicken stock, cover, bake for an hour, remove cover then bake for another 10 minutes
...
???
PROFIT

without the essential cream of mushroom soup that "hot dish" kinda sounds more like a confit byaldi than a formal casserole

just wait for the hipster hotdish revival of 2011

Wild rice hotdish: it's already here.

ooh that sounds good.

from the Trinity Evangelical Lutheran centennial cookbook, for the inestimable joy of all who ever lived or currently live in any place where you might have seen such a dish brought into the Christmas potluck at work.

Shipwreck
Slice an onion into bottom of buttered casserole. Over this, arrange thin slices of raw potatoes. Add a thick layer of uncooked hamburger. Cover meat with a layer of uncooked rice, then a layer of chopped celery and a can of red (or kidney) beans. Season layers with salt, pepper and paprika. Top with tomato juice (amount varies depending on how much rice you use). Cover and bake at 350 for about 2 hours, or a little less.

what the

That's basically a Balkan moussaka, imo.

Minus the beans prob.

I'm a little crestfallen that there isn't a warning not to go overboard with the paprika

2 hours seems like a really, really long bake time for such a dish!

oh wow, I was so transfixed by the recipe that I didn't notice the alternate recipe for the same dish underneath it

Shipwreck
6 med. potatoes peeled
1 lb. ground beef
1 can porn & beans
1 can...wait for it...cream of mushroom soup
Layer in sprayed casserole dish in order given. Break up the raw ground beef. Bake at 350 for 1 1/2 hours.

well, fuck, I typed "porn" instead of "pork"

nice knowing you everybody

porn & beans

huh

mmmm porn n beans

"eat my porn and beans"

LOL

xpost

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I don't think these are Missouri Synod Lutherans.

brings a new meaning to "hot dish"

you guys are just begging for the "Brunch a la Ramon" recipe, from the reading of which you are not likely to recover

do it mofo

lay yr lutheran food pron on us, porkmaster

Wouldn't a "hot dish" be a casserole that has slipped down the edibility scale a notch or three?

no

(okay, yes)

Brunch a la Ramon
Sauté:
1/2 c. onion
1 T. butter
1/2 c. green pepper

Stir in 1 cup of ham (small strips), seasoning packet of Ramen Oriental noodles and 1 cup water; bring to boil. Break up. Add 1 package Ramen noodles; stir until soft. Add 3/4 cup grated cheese. Make indentation in noodles; break eggs into each hole. Sprinkle with extra cheese. Cook 5 to 8 minutes, or until eggs are done.

I think I just dogwhistled strongo hulkington with that one

Stir in 1 cup of ham (small strips)

wait

holy fuck

ONE CUP OF HAM

are... are there PICTURES of this thing

that is like an evil fritatta

Make indentation in noodles; break eggs into each hole.

literally roffling here

like how many eggs are we talking here, because there are a lot of potential holes in this dish

break eggs into each hole

^^good life philosophy, fyi

there are no pictures but there will be after I serve Brunch a la Ramon to 200 at Bats Day

I like how it starts so innocuously, the turns a corner and accelerates directly into a culinary brick wall with the cup of ham strips

It does seem like a dish that could be easily expanded to military-size audiences. That is the best thing I can think to say about it.

"Break up."

If someone served me this, this is exactly what I'd do.

also is the specifically the "Oriental" flavor of ramen noodles?

these are important questions

There's nothing wrong with cutting up sliced ham into strips, people.

I put it in quiche all the time if I'm too lazy to thaw and fry bacon.

I think if you're eating Brunch a la Ramon, the question of which flavor ramen you're using is academic

Ramon flavored Ramen

There's nothing wrong with cutting up sliced ham into strips, people.

there is kind of a problem with measuring ham by volume rather than weight, though

btw http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=Guj&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=%22Brunch%20a%20la%20Ramon%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw lol

googleproof brunch a ram0n, we don't people who'd eat it coming here

yes we do--think of the trolling we could do; we could BLOW THEIR MINDS

"ham strips" is such a wonderful phrase

I got one more for the day then I gotta actually figure out what I'm cooking for dinner

Runza
2 lb. hamburger, browned & drained
4 c. shredded cabbage
1 chopped onion
1 can cream of mushroom soup
Simmer 15 minutes. Put layer of crescent rolls (1 tube) into bottom of 9x13-inch pan. Put hamburger mixture on top. Spread 1 can Cheddar cheese soup over all. Top with layer of crescent rolls (1 tube). Bake at 350 until brown, 35 to 45 minutes.

after you eat Runza you'll probably get the runs-a

extrapolating from the Brunch a la Ramon recipe, I can only assume that Supper a la Ramon consists of a case of Hamm's

xp: okay wait just a goddamned minute

"ham strips" is such a wonderful phrase

ham strips
what a wonderful phrase
and it means no worries
'til the end of your days i.e. probably next week

Spread 1 can Cheddar cheese soup over all.

this is a coded militia instruction, right?

wait cheddar cheese soup isn't even in the ingredients

oh see now i am hungry thanks guys

that recipe makes no sense how am i going to make runza

cheese soup is always implied in a hotdish

"2 lbs. browned hamburger" is some new pavlovian thing i didnt even know about yet apparently

jjj, next time I come home I expect to go to your house and eat at least one of these

wait cheddar cheese soup isn't even in the ingredients

a lot of old recipes just list the ones you're going to start with and then just introduce the other ingredients in the narrative part, in my experience.

(quite honestly I was completely down with the Runza until it got to the can of cheddar cheese soup; like srsly why can't we just use ACTUAL CHEESE)

however, fewer old recipes feature two tubes of crescent rolls.

"2 lbs. browned hamburger"

Are you insane? Or are you mocking them for calling it hamburger instead of "ground beef"?

Because I mean there's ground beef in everything...isn't there?

no it is making me hungry and hamburger is yum

cheese soup is not ok tho

then just introduce the other ingredients in the narrative part

plot thickening

also a million xposts up to HI DERE, i think this can be arranged. also we should combine it with stunt drink night and see who is the first to die.

and then we make that dead person into a hot dish obv

cheese soup + tube bread + ham strips=food nirvana

wait you are combining recipes now

is the world ready for Brunch a la Runza?

jjj & hi dere you guys do the weekend and I will fax you your recipe for the night each afternoon, you will not know until middday how severe your experience will be

for example I just found one called Pineapple Casserole that would completely stop you in your tracks & make you doubt God

disturbing lack of tater tot crust in these imo

well you have to post that now

jjj you've got a webcam, right? because this seems like amazing ChatRoulette fodder

i do not have a webcam, spent all my profits on hot dish now all i can do is roll from side to side in my comically oversized chair

Mr. Que remember that you asked for it

Pineapple Casserole
Put in butter 9x13 inch pan:
2 (20 oz) cans crushed pineapple, drained (save juice)
2 c. Cheddar cheese, shredded into pineapple

Combine 1 cup sugar and 6 tablespoons flour. Add 6 tablespoons juice. Pour over pineapple. Stir. Top with 1 cup Ritz crackers. Drizzle 1/2 cup melted butter over all, and bake for 30 minutes at 350.

"buttered" pan, sorry

like it makes a difference

ritz crackers make their appearance at last

are you sure it is not actually a pan made of butter, because really all bets are off when it comes to these things

perhaps I will bring you a webcam as a belated housewarming gift

xp: what

fair point jjj - "serve in bowl carved from 6-ton block of butter" wouldn't exactly shock me

I was hoping you would be putting a 9x13 pan into butter

help

so is that in the dessert section, please say yes--does not explain the ritz crackers though

the pineapple one has actually made all traces of hunger leave my body

thing is, I am pretty sure I have actually eaten this before

like i think even my saliva has retreated to the back of my skull

2 c. Cheddar cheese, shredded into pineapple

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

http://whatspikelikes.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/toht.jpg

at a bare minimum I have eaten something that was, as far as I could tell, solely made up of pineapple and cheddar cheese

it was about as tasty as eating a sock

where did this thing happen to you

show us on the doll where the hotdish was served

I want to say Old Country Buffet...?

that is truly horrible

so yes it was entirely my fault for picking it up but in fairness I couldn't tell it was pineapple

condolences

molested by hot dish

so is that in the dessert section, please say yes--does not explain the ritz crackers though

I'm afraid not Que

it was in the salad section

btw that recipe actually makes me more of a believer in God because it can only be a product of Satan and I really have to believe there is an opposing force out there that can counter Pineapple Casserole

xp: OH GOD YES, THAT SHIT IS SERVED AS A SALAD

IT MAKES CELERY JELLO TASTE LIKE AMBROSIA

THE WHOLE TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE JUST CAME RUSHING BACK

BLEAH

Things made with hamburger that you might not think are:

Bolognese sauce
Beef stroganoff
Goulash
Tacos

salad with no vegetables is like some sort of lutheran voodoo

CELERY JELLO

details. . . ?

a nice, healthy salad

just the thing

Things made with hamburger that you might not think are:

Bolognese sauce
Beef stroganoff
Goulash
Tacos

uh, i kind of knew hamburger was in or could be in all of those things

I am pretty sure everyone on this thread knew that all of those things were made with hamburger and at least one of us (ie, me) has made all four

...with hamburger, sorry I didn't finish my thought due to pineapple casserole PTSD

Oh good because none of those things are "supposed to" be made w hamburger and I was worried I was the only one who thought they were.

This is all insane. The nearest I've got is this:

Empty a large tin of meatballs and a large tin of beans into a casserole dish. Top with a layer of instant mashed potato. Add a packet of crushed cheese & onion crisps. Top with a layer of grated cheese. Bake in the oven.

I mean I should have had more faith in a thread called "Hot Dish", but jj threw me off up there.

My mother-in-law (from the heart of hot dish country, i.e. Iowa) calls it "hamburg" rather than "hamburger", but I get what you're saying, Laurel.

celery jello = lime jello with chunks of celery in it

sometimes ppl get fancy and blend the jello with Cool Whip or cream cheese, then mix in the chunks of celery

made with hamburger

I once made kedgeree with fish fingers instead of smoked haddock.

in fact here is a pretty representative recipe:

GREEN MOLDED SALAD

1 lg. pkg. lime Jello
1 (8 oz.) can crushed pineapple
1 (8 oz.) pkg. cream cheese
3/4 c. chopped walnuts
1/2 pt. heavy cream
1/2 c. chopped celery

Beat cream until stiff. Dissolve Jello in 1 cup boiling water. Add cream cheese and blend well. Add pineapple, celery, nuts and mix well. Fold Jello ingredients into heavy cream. Pour in large mold. Refrigerate about 6 hours or until firm.

NOTE: If using large ring mold, center can be filled with crushed pineapple or whatever.

sometimes ppl get fancy and blend the jello with Cool Whip or cream cheese, then mix in the chunks of celery

other times people throw themselves from the roof of a building

NOTE: If using large ring mold, center can be filled with crushed pineapple or whatever.

love this so much btw

also, WAU @ history:

http://www.diet-blog.com/archives/2007/06/26/celery_and_tomato_flavored_jello.php

NOTE: If using large ring mold, center can be filled with crushed pineapple or whatever.

Or whatever--ham strips, bacon patties, Ritz crackers, tater tots. . .

^^^ that sounds like it came straight out of an early 70's ccokbook my mother (probably) still has. The colour pictures inside were so glossy and saturated that everything looked like it was made of plastic.

I typed in several wtf recipes from my wife's old church cookbooks on some other thread, can't remember which it is though

we've done these old card things i assume

http://wwff.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/ww.jpg

I am pretty sure I have encountered a variant of the celery jello dish that included cubes of ham

sometimes the midwest is a terrifying place to eat

(xpost) yes

hahaha "Convenience Fish"

FLUFFY MACKEREL PUDDING

starting a band called the Convenience Fish btw

every ingredient of that pineapple cheese ritz salad thing is just amazing. i mean, on top of everything else, what is role of the cup of sugar in that?

xp too late...

what is role of the cup of sugar in that

the final nail in the coffin, which leads to DEATH

Delia Smith's "One Is Fun" series is a goldmine for this kind of thing...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGrGJ0a4dSY

No see I don't even have to hit Play to tell that the Delia Smith thing includes at least one fresh vegetable which means it can't compare to things that can be made from canned goods stored on the back porch since last fall.

Dying of laughter over all this.

waiting for someone to out this thread as a hoax. i won't be mad and it won't be any less funny, but i will be relieved.

the Delia Smith thing includes at least one fresh vegetable which means it can't compare to things that can be made from canned goods stored on the back porch since last fall.

oh in that case try Delia's "How To Cheat" series...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIoeEJTPpQA
Shepherd's Pie is supposed to contain lamb mince, onions, Worcestershire Sauce, and then topped with mashed potato. And nothing else.

when it comes to food, a large chunk of upper midwest cooking appears to be based on a weird combination of dares, April Fool's Day pranks and overall contempt for the concept of eating

waiting for someone to out this thread as a hoax. i won't be mad and it won't be any less funny, but i will be relieved.

Stuff like this is very real:

http://abandonedbatonrouge.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ee90d24883401053621d987970c-pi

We've even talked about it before:

Betty Crocker has come back from the dead to ruin my life for an entire year

i feel like the free-wheeling insanity of midwestern cuisine is not getting its due here

No see I don't even have to hit Play to tell that the Delia Smith thing includes at least one fresh vegetable which means it can't compare to things that can be made from canned goods stored on the back porch since last fall.

well, but, at the risk of starting a war, those are English tomatoes, so...

blindfold yourself, open the cupboard and pick 4 cans at random, toss that shit into a pan with some cream of mushroom and cover it with a box of crushed old dutch potato chips and goddamn it now we got a fucking meal!

omg Ned I had forgotten about that thread

more importantly, I had forgotten about POW!

USA! USA!

"culinary MadLibs" is a very good way to describe midwestern cooking, now that I think about it

open refrigerator in dark kitchen. stand three feet from refrigerator. throw four darts at refrigerator; sauté in pan. add one can cream of mushroom soup and bake for two hours. serve on bed of ritz crackers or egg noodles, depending on which you have more of.

http://www.soft-go.com/game/Hot-Dish_366.html

Hot Dish Description
Go on a culinary adventure like no other in this gastric-busting Time Management game!

YAY

http://ohforfun.typepad.com/oh_for_fun/images/hot_dish_on_a_stick_booth.jpg

UffDa treat

oh no no no no mr que

hurts to laff more

okay I had a recipe for JAZZED-UP tater tot hotdish but it really can't compete with hotdish on a stick

"MPLS PIMP DADDY"

http://bloom.dj/wp-content/gallery/flyers/hotdish_3_6_10_jeff_bloom.jpg

http://tvbookshelf.ws/hotdish.jpg

at least the title is honest

wait, the UffDa Treat looks fucking TASTY

it's uff da hook

guy in left of frame later had to be asked to allow other customers to also enjoy Hot Dish on a Stick

it's uff da hook

this means war btw

Uffda Treat is a scoop of cheesecake filling in a krumkake shell, topped with a pecan praline sauce.

okay yes would eat all fucking day

at $4 a throw?

it's the state fair, live a little!

I mean, for $4 that thing had better be the size of your head...

i paid a dollar once at the state fair to see a snake lady--don't regret a thing

at any rate I am much more likely to eat an UffDa Treat than I am to eat a Fudge Puppy, which quite frankly just sounds obscene

snake lady=woman with a head coming out of a table, the table behind her was painted to look like a snake, woman wearing headphones

Dougal: A spider baby. It's like a freakshow thing. It's got the body of a spider,but it's actually a baby!
Ted: And how is it a baby?

also, looks obscene:

http://maddisonsmagical.com/fudgepuppies_hder.jpg

Pop N Floss?

iccccccccccccccccck

The whole thing looks like it's just been sprayed out of a can, and in a couple of minutes it will melt and collapse into a big mess.

explain fudge puppy

last time I was at the MN State Fair, a vendor rather aggressively tried to make me get a Fudge Puppy; maybe I shouldn't have said "a Fudge Puppy? I thought you could get arrested for that" but maybe shouldn't have said "you better come back here and get a fudge puppy"

(it's a chocolate-covered Belgian waffle... on a stick)

How could that possibly be bad???

basically it's something that could be really awesome with terrible presentation and the worst possible name you could imagine

more like fudge poopy

krumkakke

krumkakka

It's like when you've been dating someone for about a year and they tell you they have a particular sexual fantasy that they want to explore and you're all "yeah? what is it?" and they say "I want you to give me a fudge puppy" and you break up with them on the spot

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

http://commassets.kaboose.com/images/69430/fudgesicle.jpg

weeks later, you are still too grossed out to figure out exactly what a fudge puppy is, but you are certain it is something of which you want no part

hot dish on a stick in the bomb

hipsterfudgepuppies.com blog of the moment ya sure you betcha

Hot Carl on a stick

also krumkake is real nice

open refrigerator in dark kitchen. stand three feet from refrigerator. throw four darts at refrigerator; sauté in pan. add one can cream of mushroom soup and bake for two hours. serve on bed of ritz crackers or egg noodles, depending on which you have more of.

I meant to say earlier, this is a very good recipe for dart hotdish.

"yeah? what is it?"
"I want you to give me a fudge puppy"
"Explain fudge puppy."

*kramer storms into room*

okay I thought my brain was broken at brunch a la ramon but then I kept reading and yeah now I will never be clean again

"this isn't happening"

ok lol this thread has made me feel better about myself

And it is a screenname goldmine.

testing

http://www.midwestliving.com/recipe/meat/cheeseburger-and-fries-casserole/

* 2 pounds lean ground beef
* 1 10-3/4-ounce can condensed golden mushroom soup
* 1 10-3/4-ounce can condensed cheddar cheese soup
* 1 20-ounce package frozen, fried crinkle-cut potatoes
* Hamburger toppings (choose from catsup, pickles, mustard and chopped tomato)

(other recipes in this issue of Midwest Living include "French Spaghetti" and "Pizza in a Bowl")

I'm kind of bugged out at the idea of condensed cheese soup to begin with tbh

Let us consider anew.

There is hotdish and then there is...

https://twitter.com/keithellison/status/730443379918680064

lol

i had a friend who did the thing where you use 'borrow me a ____' instead of 'lend me a ____' and i thought she was just being dumb and didn't learn that it was a minnesotan thing until several years later after i fell out of contact with her

A new front:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/28/dining/amy-klobuchar-hotdish.html

Bold use of pepper jack, though as the article warns, maybe too spicy for Iowans.

Ilhan Omar’s recipe sounds wild.

Maybe this is why my mother’s a Klobuchar fan.

Hotdish came up in the livestream MST3K Q&A just now and the passionate arguments for what it constitutes reconfirmed the debate in this thread. The non-Midwesterners were very confused.

This makes the cold all worth it. pic.twitter.com/QD6Q8hc956

— Governor Tim Walz (@GovTimWalz) January 11, 2022

<3

In light of the Walz nomination it is important to see if there is new input on this grave matter.

https://www.kare11.com/article/life/food/recipes/rep-tim-walzs-winning-hotdish-recipe/89-107523676

Walz's winning "Turkey Trot Tater-Tot Hotdish" recipe:
1 pound of fresh green beans, chopped into bite sized pieces
4 slices of Hormel bacon
1 clove of garlic, finely chopped
6 tablespoons butter
5-6 tablespoons flour
2 ½ cups Whole milk
½ cup half and half
2 teaspoons salt
3 cups Kraft shredded sharp cheddar cheese
1 pound Jennie-O ground turkey
½ teaspoon sage
1 teaspoon pepper
1 egg
1 tablespoon olive oil
½ cup green onions
¼ cup chopped onions
1 ½ cup chopped baby bella mushrooms washed and well dried
1 package tater tots
Pre-heat the oven to 375 F.
In a medium bowl, mix turkey, garlic, sage, green onions, egg, pepper and one teaspoon salt.
Using a 10-inch cast iron skillet, heat the olive oil and then cook the turkey to the well-done temperature of 165 F and place in 9-by-13-inch baking dish. (Browning similar as you would for ground beef).
Blanch the green beans by dropping them into boiling water for 2-3 minutes. Using a slotted spoon, remove and plunge them into ice water. Once cool, drain completely and gently mix them in with the turkey in the dish.
Fry the bacon until crispy then chop into ¼-inch pieces. Add bacon into turkey mixture.
Heat 2 tablespoons of butter. As soon as you see that the butter foam has begun to subside, indicating it is hot enough, add the mushrooms. Stir continuously and gently with wooden spoon for 4-5 minutes or for about 2 minutes after browning point. Remove from heat and add to casserole dish.
In a sauce pan, melt remaining butter over medium heat. Little by little, sprinkle flour into the butter. Let cook for 2 minutes, then slowly whisk in the milk and half and half. Cook for 2 more minutes, add diced onions and salt and pepper. After a minute, stir in 2 ½ cups of cheese until melted.
Pour cheese mixture over the ingredients.
Scatter tater tots over the top and remaining cheese.
Bake 45 minutes or until golden brown.

The hero we need

idk man, fresh herbs and non-canned mushrooms in a hotdish??? liberal elitism knows no bounds

oh jeez that sounds good

I love how when I clicked on the link a video pops up showing Minnesotans how to make a Jersey breakfast sando with Taylor ham/pork roll.

personal lolz looking back thru the thread:

wait, dan m, you're not a Minnesotan, are you?

― Sara R-C, Friday, June 15, 2007 11:25 AM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

No, I'm from MI, but I have some very very Norweigian Minnesotan friends.

― dan m, Friday, June 15, 2007 11:26 AM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

now 11 years married to one of those friends :)

It's good to have friends!

now 11 years married to one of those friends :)

Awwwwww...

most of my father's side are MN Swedes

(^^^^^^ That is one of the most complicated recipes I've ever encountered)

Which is why you're going to start working on it now, for us.

Here's another Walz hotdish recipe:

What’s a hotdish you ask? Here’s an award-winning recipe of mine to get you started: pic.twitter.com/r9H2f1ntFu

— Tim Walz (@Tim_Walz) July 29, 2024

Now I wanna see Humphrey & Mondale's hotdish recipes, to see how they match up

I think the main thing I failed to understand about hotdish was that minnesotans get competitive about it.

Y’all. Check these out, especially Ilhan Omar’s recipe: https://assets1.cbsnewsstatic.com/i/cbslocal/wp-content/uploads/sites/15909630/2019/04/2019-mn-congressional-delegation-hotdish-recipe-book.pdf

Now that looks awesome

omar's looks very good and even kind of healthy! tater tots in a chaat is inspired.

I think the main thing I failed to understand about hotdish was that minnesotans get competitive about it.

― trm (tombotomod), Tuesday, August 6, 2024 1:06 PM (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Just imagine decades of Lutheran church basement potluck cleanup when some dishes are scraped clean and others have a few servings left uneaten

(^^^^^^ That is one of the most complicated recipes I've ever encountered)

― Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, August 6, 2024 12:33 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is my issue with Walz's hotdish, hotdish should not be complicated, it should be "do this, do this, throw this on top, bake at 350 for 20", it should never feature the word "blanch"

rampant foodism has crept in everywhere. used to be that "gourmet" just meant a recipe had capers in it

xp it looks like that recipe has been written by some ConAgra test kitchen, lots of brand names... I'll bet Walz would probably do it more like you describe

Wondering why Fargo never had any competitive hotdish subterfuge going on.

(The TV show I mean, in case that wasnt clear)

Might be time to rewatch this gem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiSzwoJr4-0

An overview of hotdish begins at just after 15 mins

Lovely Jurassic technology in that! Also the book is hilarious.

"bake at anywhere between 400 and 700 degrees" love it.

From a reader comment sent in to Defector on the upcoming Minnesota Vikings season:

The Vikings are like a Minnesota hotdish. The ingredients seem promising when you’re putting it together. Heck, it even smells delicious in the oven, building your appetite to a fever pitch in anticipation of taking that first, heavenly bite. But when it’s time to feast, it’s just undercooked tater tots and sadness underneath.

the vikings do indeed suck but it's definitely not fair to hot dish to be compared to them like that