UK Watercooler 27: Let's Get Cool In Der Pool, Let's Get HOTT In Zee Dancing Spot!!!

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I blame Emil.y for the title!

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 09:49 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/images/400/kennyeverett_1.jpg

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 09:51 (eighteen years ago)

I don't understand.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 09:59 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe I just need some more coffee.

They took our actual watercooler away today - I just hope they don't take the coffeemachine or I will die!

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:04 (eighteen years ago)

I was listening to "Cool in the Pool" when I was a lad and my brother came in and said, "He sounds just like Kenny Everett" and totally 'harshed my buzz'... because he did sound like Kenny Everett. I've never been able to hear a Holger Czukay album in the same way since.

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:04 (eighteen years ago)

I guess I'm lucky since I don't actually know who Kenny Everett is. So my buzz cannot be harshed.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:05 (eighteen years ago)

The similarity is uncanny

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:06 (eighteen years ago)

Flying to AMERRRRRRRRCA today!

G00blar, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:06 (eighteen years ago)

Argh, flying, eeep, good luck, bon voyage and all that.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:07 (eighteen years ago)

Are you ready to surrender your fingerprints at the border, g00bs?

mitya, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:09 (eighteen years ago)

Really? They doing that now for citizens?

G00blar, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

My green card has my fingerprints on it!

Yet another reason not to go to The Wedding, besides my crippling fear of flying.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:11 (eighteen years ago)

Not yet, just trying to scare people :)

mitya, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:12 (eighteen years ago)

Cheers!

G00blar, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:12 (eighteen years ago)

I think they start fingerprinting for all non-US citizens beginning in 2009 (or that's when they want to).

mitya, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:14 (eighteen years ago)

Bloody hell, my boss's assistant is a MICRO-MANAGER. She just gave me the disk ten minutes ago, and came over to my desk wanting to know if I'd done it. I WILL GET BACK TO YOU WHEN I HAVE DONE IT. DO NOT BUG ME.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:14 (eighteen years ago)

Tell her you're not in the office today.

mitya, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:16 (eighteen years ago)

Oh! I nearly forgot. I have agreed to go bike shopping with Emsk the weekend after I get paid.

They had a Tour De France themed bike festival on the Common on Saturday, with stunt bikers and French clowns on stilts. It was highly entertaining. I got a Tour De France souvenier pen.

Oh, and I found out I can get bike lessons through Lambeth Council. Hurrah!

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:19 (eighteen years ago)

French clowns on stilts. It was highly entertaining

Does. Not. Compute.

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:21 (eighteen years ago)

OK, I've just got asked what the heck I am using up SO MUCH BANDWIDTH OVER. For once, it's not the interweb, it's this stupid massive huge database I'm trying to download. Heh.

Better be careful, though.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:30 (eighteen years ago)

French clowns on stilts. It was highly entertaining

Does. Not. Compute.

-- Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:21 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Ha ha ha ha. Tr00.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:32 (eighteen years ago)

It was actually hilarious!

OK, maybe i was just really hungover.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:34 (eighteen years ago)

"De Subjectivisten" appears to be coming back to life, I wonder why?

Pashmina, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, they don't fingerprint you for entry to the USA (yet).

They do for entry to Universal/Disney, though.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

Please tell me you're joking about that Disney thing.

Database will not open. I wonder if I can ring back dude from sys admin since he winpopped me his direct line number.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yay, a new thread to coincide with my birthday! If only I were 27 too.

Archel, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:50 (eighteen years ago)

So Sunn o))) were good then? Did they have any special guests on with them apart from Atilla (vocals)? The 2nd time I saw them they had Justin Broadrick with them on guitar.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:51 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder if I can ring back dude from sys admin since he winpopped me his direct line number

i think you definitely shd, speshly with annoying micromanagers buzzing around.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:51 (eighteen years ago)

Happy birthday, Archel!

That is exactly what I did. I should have it in 20 minutes.

Now I wonder if I can go back to him to ask him if he can extract dronerock bootlegs while he's at it, hah!

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 10:54 (eighteen years ago)

I should never forget how much I love Quasi. They're helping me pack.

G00blar, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:00 (eighteen years ago)

i have no idea who was with them. it was dark. they were hooded.

emsk, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:09 (eighteen years ago)

Best review ever!

I have looked at the Tour De France flyer I got this weekend, and i feel chizzed coz they're not even going through our neighbourhood! bah!

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:10 (eighteen years ago)

You never can see the faces because of the smoke machine. I'll have a look on the SL board. Some guy was moaning about lots of nigel hipsters being in the crowd now since they got in the wire, pfm etc.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:18 (eighteen years ago)

couple of people posted about it here http://forums.southernlord.com/viewtopic.php?t=22633

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:19 (eighteen years ago)

I'm clearly a hipster kid who's not cool enough for the SL site.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:30 (eighteen years ago)

You're not a bearded doom metaller. Right age at least though.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:47 (eighteen years ago)

You know, I could try as hard as I like, but my beard never gets more than 2 hairs. :-(

Bloody Sys Admin said this DB would be unwrapped in 20 minutes, 2 hours ago. Still waiting...

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:49 (eighteen years ago)

happy birthday archel!!!!

nathalie, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:50 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone here have a beard?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:54 (eighteen years ago)

oh yeah Happy Birthday Archel!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:54 (eighteen years ago)

Kate I think you will like the Kinski and La Otracina albums.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)

Ed has a beard. TISSP! has a beard! Lots of people here have beards.

It's just rather anatomically impossible for me to grow a beard. I know that most people rather forget I'm a girl, but uh... I'd have to take hormone supplements to get one!

sorry, I can't d/l anything, the sys admins are on to me and watching my d/l today.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)

Ed's beard is esp. splendid

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 11:57 (eighteen years ago)

Mr Archel has a lovely beard.

Also I just saw one of my colleagues for the first time in six months and his beard has become positively Darwinesque in the interim, it's fantastic.

I used to be anti-beard but now I am definitely pro. Possibly because I'm getting OLD.

Archel, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:30 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone here have a beard?

as in facial hair or what? :-)

nathalie, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:41 (eighteen years ago)

...and now it's time for the post-lunch slump. :-(

Sudden burst of loneliness this morning, which went away when I got to work and got on the interweb, but now that's worn off and it's back. I suppose I'm just so un-used to having anyone around my flat. That it was really really great to have all these people round and lots of socialising and fun. and now it's kind of heightened the sense of loneliness that I feel all the time in everyday life.

I know it's sooo tedious to go "ooh, I'm so lonely" all the time and even more pathetic than *being* lonely so I've been trying not to do it. But it's getting to me at the moment. :-(

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:44 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, work has been slow around here for a while, which means I exhaust the internet quickly and start to think, "christ what else is there." idle hands make the devil's work.

mitya, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:46 (eighteen years ago)

I thought you liked living on your own. I suppose it's nice to have visitors but I bet you're glad they all go home and aren't there all the time.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:47 (eighteen years ago)

It's like the post-party blues. (Reason to get drunk - so you're too hungover to get depressed afterward.)

mitya, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:48 (eighteen years ago)

I've been spending a *lot* of time around couples recently.

And though they're nice couples, and I'm happy for them, and totally "awwww" about them, it does heighten my own sense of lonelines.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:49 (eighteen years ago)

Kate check out the pics of Boris

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:50 (eighteen years ago)

Sod it
ILX needs boris pics

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2954/img3269ys2.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7006/img3318fh8.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/7202/img3321ud3.jpg

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:55 (eighteen years ago)

http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/8620/img3356ms5.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/2569/img3370pn5.jpg

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:55 (eighteen years ago)

K-Rock Kookie winging its way to youse all

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:56 (eighteen years ago)

That gong is terribly amusing.

I can remember the first time I heard of Boris - went round Frances' house and she was interviewing them (not in person, obviously) and she was all "can't talk now, interviewing Boris!" but I thought she said "Forest" and she was all "got any questions?" so I said "Ask them what their favourite kind of tree is!"

I think she asked them, too. Cannot recall what their reply was, though.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 12:58 (eighteen years ago)

Nebula have a gong too. They set it on fire at the end of their set.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:00 (eighteen years ago)

Gongs, who mentioned gongs?

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-359415-1102780739.jpg

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:03 (eighteen years ago)

I remember standing in close proximity to the Flaming Lips' gong at [insert name of festival what I've forgotten here], and getting very sore ears.

We had a sound festival in Seaford recently with GONG BATHS, it was great.

Archel, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:06 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, it was T in teh Park.

Archel, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:06 (eighteen years ago)

I thought that was going to be a pic of

http://www.disco-robertwyatt.com/images/with_friends/images/WorldOfGong_big.jpg

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:06 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.planetgong.co.uk/images/Gong_classique/73_hillage_close-up.jpg

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:08 (eighteen years ago)

Going all the way back to the beginning of this thread, I must say that I can't dislike Kenny Everett, for I discovered many of my favourite songs through this album:

http://i21.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/a3/f7/a8aa_1.JPG

emil.y, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:11 (eighteen years ago)

I never said I disliked Kenny Everett! That album is a classic!

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:13 (eighteen years ago)

I liked Kenny Everett. Even if he was a tory cunt.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:14 (eighteen years ago)

ooh i was at that t in the park flips gig arch

emsk, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

Really? I was cold and grumpy but it was pretty good iirc.

Archel, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

yeh it was a wet festival i think
it was a GREAT show
was the first time i ever saw them. i remember walking out of the tent giggling and in tears at the end

emsk, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

Hurrah, We just hit 1000 friends on MySpazz. I don't have a clue who most of them are, they just seem to be musicians that are collecting friends. What is the point, I ask you?

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

Do you ever see a thread on ILM, have *no* idea what it's supposed to be about from the title, then open it, and have even *less* idea what on earth they're driving at?

(obv this applies only to people who read ILM)

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

all the time

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

is there another meta thread going on?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

This is why I prefer ILM polls to normal threads right now -- ILM polls are far less annoying than ILE polls coz you'll have Best Single by Duran Duran or somesuch that anyone can contribute to -- in other words, ILM polls are abt the same bands that ILM C or Ds were about in 2001!

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:44 (eighteen years ago)

yeah the polls are pretty much C or D but with an end result and lurkers are contributing in a little way at least. They're never gonna post but at least their opinions are being heard via a vote.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

WTF:

Gentrification, "Coffee Table", the 90s, Broadsheets, False Consensus and "The New Punk Rock"

What on earth is that thread about? Or is it just another bunch of wanna-be music crits slagging off the "established music press"?

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

It's a spin off from the mercury music prize where a discussion started on "coffee table music"

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

MMP thread that should say

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

Kerr, if "the lurkers" never post on poll thread, how do you know it's them clicking the button to cast a vote?

Kate, it's about some shite on the Mercury Music Prize thread about whether M People are crap or not because lots of stupid people who drive Ford Mondeos like them.

xpost

ailsa, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:53 (eighteen years ago)

OK, so self referential that no one else on earth is going to get it.

Does the MMP still happen? Is it in any way, shape or form relevant in any way?

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:53 (eighteen years ago)

Er, so self-referentially obscure that it mentions the origin of the thread idea in the opening post. And gentrification of music, perceptions of what sort of people like what kind of music, the concept of "coffee table music" etc are hardly so obscure as to render the thread unapproachable to the kind of people who give one flying one about it.

yes, MMP still happens. I'm one of those people who don't give one flying one, so don't ask me re relevance. Why don't you start a thread on ILM about it :-)

ailsa, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

I suppose that lurkers wouldn't bother signing up but there are people who have posted the odd time but lurk mostly and I think they will be voting.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

I bet the Lighthouse Family are mentioned on that thread.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

M People are one of the groups I hate most in the world (along with OCS) and i'll happily let everyone know of my hatred for both at any given opportunity. :)

MMP still exists and is as shit as ever. Not interested in these awards that have political reasons for award "its time for a rock/pop/dance blah blah turn"." this type of band won it last time so it cant happen this year" Either it's the best album of the year or not. And usually it's not the best album that wins it.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 13:59 (eighteen years ago)

It is now GG :)

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

Seriously, this DB is so large as to be effectively unusable. :-(

I started a query about 10 minutes ago and it's not even displayed the first page of results. 531,384 records.

Oh hang on, it's done something.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

M People make me want to check out Quando Quango and T Coy to see if they are any good or not, much as I want to check out the Mothmen coz the idea of ppl being in both Durutti Column and Simply Red is so intriguing.

TBH I quite like the original unremixed versh of How Can I Love You More; it's what M People became subsequently that I object to. "Search for the hero inside yrself" is one of the worst lyrics anywhere ever, incidentally.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

Add the fields to the key, then it won't have to look at the main data for your results.

Anyway, someone say: Are there loads of polls knocking around? I switched them off on my preferences, and would like to venture back...

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

Mothmen! Yay!

"DOES IT MATTER IRENE?????!!!!!"

Imagine Syd Barrett umm, that's it really.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

At least that song now reminds me of the father ted sheep competition episode.
x-posts

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

Bernard Manning, *Ian Brady, M People... Manchester's finest!

(*yes, I know he's from Glasgow)

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

And hello hello. So glad to hear those intros of mine went over a treat, rah!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

Manchester so much to answer for.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

the intros were great, Ned!!!

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

I just went with the bandlisting, the brief self(?)-descriptions and my own vision of the universe. And is now well known, I do not play Half-Life 2.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

Descriptions were all written by the band except Ken C, who didn't get his in on time. Quelle surprise.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

"The chances of anything coming from Ken..."

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

It was quite funny having to explain to Asia not only who Jeff Wayne was but also who Richard Burton was!

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

(if the Lex had been there I could have told him too)

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

Do you ever see a thread on ILME, have *no* idea what it's supposed to be about from the title, then open it, and have even *less* idea what on earth they're driving at?

-- Masonic Boom,


JINGS CRIVVENS! It's A Favourite BROONS Poll!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

the Broons are a Scottish cartoon family iirc. Expect a thread abt Oor Wullie shortly.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

It's a sair fecht

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I give up, I just don't understand anything around here any more.

:-(

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

Wee Eck.

Oh, and the last time we talked the Mothmen was: Your favourite Absurd Records release

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

Any Soapy Soutar lookalikes around here?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

My cousin Wendy.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

Oh dear

Did the lighthouse family ever get nominated? my god they were shit.

wait until you hear the indie band featuring one of the lighthouse family : Orange Lights

The Orange Lights feature vocalist Jason Hart (formerly lead guitarist with Spiritualized) and keyboard player Paul Tucker (songwriter, one-half of The Lighthouse Family). The Single and the album was produced by Ken Nelson (all three Coldplay albums), Chris Potter (The Verve's "Urban Hymns").

so dreary it has to be heard to be believed.

-- mark e, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 15:16 (28 minutes ago)

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:46 (eighteen years ago)

So, not even

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

Like that thread wasn't bad enough the first time round, do you really have to quote it over here?

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

Hang on, what's the point of starting the thread then carrying on all the discussion here instead?

xpost - or indeed, importing quotes from other threads in here?

ailsa, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

OK, OK, I'll switch "Polls" back on. Seems only fair.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, ANOTHER bad band with ex-members of Spiritualized? They should all go on a tour called "We All Fuckin' Suck."

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

"Ladies and Gentlemen, we are floating in Myspace"

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

Considering about 500 people have at one point been in SPZ*, it's not hard for most of them to suck.

*And most of the ones that claim on the connection are session players who were around for only late stuff anyway.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

LOLpine Howl

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

LOL, AIM message takes a while to reach me:

pfunkboy1973: [Offline IM sent 13d and 21h ago] back

Pashmina, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

you haven't been on for about 13 days? sounds about right.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

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Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.chroniclebooks.com/site/catalog/images/items/0735820/073582035X/073582035X_norm.jpg

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

I can't even do a freaking post right at hte moment. :-(

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

Hello.

*goes back to sleep, cos he feels knackered*

Forest Pines Mk2, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

I was trying to find you a 'cheer up' lolcat... but teh internetz eated it.

xpost

emil.y, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

I am so stupid I actually managed to lock myself out of the system.

It made me change my password this morning, and I could not for the life of me remember what I changed it to.

Some mornings I am surprised I remember how to breathe. :-(

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

I spent ten minutes trying to work out what I had changed my password to yesterday morning, you are not alone.

Ed, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, but you were ruined. I have no excuse.

So, it looks like we are doing Ghost School next week.

What have I signed myself up for? two gigs in two days?

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

The Sunn o))) line up was

SOMA - Guitar
Greg - Bass
Steven Stapleton - Guitar/noise
Daniel O'Sullivan - Rhodes/Moog
Attila - Vocals

The people on the SL board who were there said it was the best they had ever seen them.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, just make me feel worse about missing it, why don't you. :-(

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

Steven Stapleton as in Steven Stapleton?

Tom D., Tuesday, 19 June 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

Aye.

sorry kate.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

Morning. How is everyone else today?

I sat up and watched the rest of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and drew posters.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:09 (eighteen years ago)

Finns have stolen my voice.

Ed, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:12 (eighteen years ago)

Depp or Wilder?

Ed, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:12 (eighteen years ago)

Bad Finns! Tuomas, make them give it back!

x-post Depp, of course.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:12 (eighteen years ago)

Tim Burton is just a big old goff and I'm ashamed to admit how much I love his movies.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:13 (eighteen years ago)

Feel strongly that I. Should. Not. Be. At. Work. today. Bleugh.

Archel, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:16 (eighteen years ago)

Do we not always feel that way Archel? :-) I 'm hellatired. Pregnancy sucks the energy outa ya.

I'm going to make prawn curry. YUM YUM

nathalie, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:17 (eighteen years ago)

I feel that rather strongly, too, Archel. But I have no reason to feel like that.

At least there is shoegazing tonight.

Does anyone want to go to a psychedelic music festival with me? Late August. No idea where it is. All the usual bands that celebrate themselves are playing.

It's one thing to go to a club in Hoxton by yourself, quite another to go to a farm in the middle of an unspecified secret location. :-(

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:18 (eighteen years ago)

Kate, I'll join you in mind. I wish I could join you *physically* as well. But alas no. :-(

nathalie, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:22 (eighteen years ago)

It looks really good!

The Dream Machine

Date : Fri 24th - Mon 27th August 2007
Location : It's a secret.

Line-Up

The Early Years
Lab Partners
The Cush
Outrageous Cherry
yndi halda
The Asteroid #4
Je Suis Animal
Sunsplit
White Russians
First Communion Afterparty
Gilbert
Kontakte
Labrats

( plus a few more surprises )

It's gonna suck if I can't go. What are the chances I can learn to drive lefthand by August?

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:25 (eighteen years ago)

i MUST be getting old, never heard of any of these bands. :-(

nathalie, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:28 (eighteen years ago)

I know you've heard of The Early Years because I go on about them ALL THE TIME!!!

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

Hold on, I think I have heard OF Outrageous Cherry.And The Early Years. It's coming back! (Brain and memory.)

nathalie, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:30 (eighteen years ago)

And The Asteroid #4!!! I always used to put them on comps because they have a song called "Kate And The King" which is one of the few songs whiuch has my name in it that doesn't suck.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:32 (eighteen years ago)

ooh i have 1xtrack from yndi halda on a label comp it is ace

emsk, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:33 (eighteen years ago)

I know I have heard of Yndi Halda but not sure if I have heard them, but I have heard good things about them.

The festival is run by the Man With The Massive Beard who does the crazy lights for Teh Early Years. Every time Frances sees him, she wants to run up to him and run her fingers through his beard. It's quite impressive.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:35 (eighteen years ago)

Burton's Charlie And The Chocolate Factory has one of my favourite visual gags in it - the "Flags Of The World" bit.

Plus, it has Mark Heap and Kevin Eldon in it!

(having said that, the 1970s version has a Tim Brooke-Taylor cameo)

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

I just took the first of 2 second year electrician's exams - pass with credit. Cheers, cheers etc.

Pashmina, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:37 (eighteen years ago)

rats, I think that weekend I am in chicago.

Also Wilder PWNS depp. 'We are the music makes, we are the dreamers of dreams'

Ed, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

Hurrah for Pashmina! Hip hip HOORAY!

you are so wrong, Wilder is not as good as Depp. Depp is just... CREEPY on a Michael Jackson scale which is perfect. Much better than sitting around with bad hair quoting Shakespeare.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:40 (eighteen years ago)

Hurrah Pash!

It was reported that Depp did use Jackson as inspiration for his performance. But, does he have an office full of things cut in half? I think not!

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:41 (eighteen years ago)

The Asteroid #4 were really great at Sonic Cathedral the other week. Out of the other bands I only know Outrageous Cherry, and I can't remember what I thought of them. I think I like them.

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:53 (eighteen years ago)

Well done Pash!

Archel, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:55 (eighteen years ago)

Man, I had to miss that SC show because of my wrist. :-(

And I've just been told by my boss that there have been "complaints" made about my attendance, that I'm not working my full 40 hours. Uh, NO. I have not been working full 40 hour weeks the past month because I have had A MASSIVE PAINFUL CAST ON MY WRIST!!! Did you maybe not notice that? I could have been signed off work for weeks by my doctor, but I came in because no one else could do monthend. And now people are complaining that I didn't work my full hours?

Fuck RIGHT off.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 11:08 (eighteen years ago)

Bosses.... Then again, I would have appreciated that our employee called yesterday saying everything was alright with the baby instead of walking into the shop with a big grin as if nothing happened. A bit rude and thoughtless, did she not realize how worried we were? Guess not.

Pash, congrats!

nathalie, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 11:13 (eighteen years ago)

No, it wasn't my boss who said these things, she was just repeating what was said to HR. By some mysterious persons. In fact, I think I know who it was that said it. Cow.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 11:14 (eighteen years ago)

Well I hope HR/your boss told said cow that her complaint wasn't legitimate.

Archel, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 11:23 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder if I should just start looking for another job. I'm bored out of my mind here. Totally lost focus and sense of purpose. The reason I stay is becuase I like the people I work with and don't get hassled about petty stuff, but if that's going to change, maybe i should find something else.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 11:25 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, I didn't come in until 11 today. Not because I wasn't awake, but because I lacked the energy or the reason to get out of bed. I don't know if that's depression, or just total lack of engagement with work or what. :-(

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 11:26 (eighteen years ago)

Just make sure you have ILX access! :-D

nathalie, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 11:26 (eighteen years ago)

It would probably be better for my work focus if I didn't. :-(

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 11:27 (eighteen years ago)

On a lighter note, I'm really enjoying hte Thomas Dinger album.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 11:28 (eighteen years ago)

Work ethic be damned! :-)

nathalie, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 11:29 (eighteen years ago)

I kind of want a new job too since I'm theoretically able to command a professional librarian's salary now. But my current employer has been really flexible about letting me specify my hours and when I work them, which I doubt I'd get so easily in a new place...

Archel, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 11:39 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, the flexitime thing is a big bonus for me. But now there are all kinds of noises about wanting to regularise it...

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 11:47 (eighteen years ago)

Can I say "f*ckers" here?

Be passive-aggressive about it - get the doctor to sign you off for the rest of the recovery period and let them deal without you.

mitya, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 11:52 (eighteen years ago)

The recovery period is now over, so it's pointless.

It's not my boss, it's the jobsworthies in HR.

I should just start looking for a new job. I hate my life so much right now, this might be a hasty decision, though.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 11:54 (eighteen years ago)

Start looking now so that you won't have to wait around when you're REALLY ready to go.

mitya, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 11:57 (eighteen years ago)

mitya's right. look now. if you come across a good job, then take it.

stevienixed, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 11:59 (eighteen years ago)

I fear it's not my job that I hate, but my life. If I leap into a new job without sorting out the rest of my life first, then I'll be in a worse position.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 12:03 (eighteen years ago)

What would you like to change? I of course mean the things that are within your reach (?) to change.

nathalie, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 12:19 (eighteen years ago)

I'd like to stop hating myself so much, I'd like to stop being so hard on myself. I'd like to be happier with who I am, and stop comparing myself so much to people I see and things I wish I had.

OK, I also wish I were about 4 stone lighter and not so hideously ugly, but I'm too lazy and depressed to do anything about that at the moment.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 12:26 (eighteen years ago)

You should realize there are tons of people who are envious of your talents (and your stooges t-shirt).:-) I know that will only make you go:"But I am ugly and fat! blabla". Well, you're not. Stop being so hard on yourself! :-) *sending you some good hippie vibes*

nathalie, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 12:29 (eighteen years ago)

what nath said.

emsk, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 12:31 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry, it isn't working. I'm incapable of seeing myself through someone else's eyes. :-(

I have *got* to do something about the weight, though. I've been all "I don't care" for ages. And besides, food is one of the few sensual pleasures I actualy have left, of course I overindulge in it. But I have been seeing photos of myself - especially ones from Paris. ANd it's not the usual "ugh, I'm so ugly" but "OMIGOD, I AM REPULSIVE, I CANNOT BEAR TO LOOK!"

I wish I were capable of feeling love from other people. I just don't seem able to do it. It's like i'm missing some kind of sense.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 12:34 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sorry this is all going so navel-gazing. You did ask, Nath.

Now I will shut up and commence naval-gazing.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 12:34 (eighteen years ago)

Oh argh in web cafe and man next to me has zero concept of personal space. Yes, you to my left with your mouse and BOTH hands on it, please move the fuck over. And yes I do hope you see this over my shoulder, oxygen thief.

Kate, HR types drive me teh mad, they are empty inside. Do not let them ruin what is actually a pretty nice life.

suzy, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 12:44 (eighteen years ago)

xpost Kate, you're not navel gazing. (Typed naval gazing first. Wouldn'tr that be coolio to do today?)
I do understand you, but... I choose to ignore those emotions. I used to be like you but now I see how relative it all is. You *can* look through someone else's eyes. If not, then realize that your standards are probably much too high: most of us are *average*. You gotta focus on the positive. I'm rambling. Which is close to rumbling which is what my belly is doing (stomach and belly). ;-)

And just realize: if you think the other has it better, that's not always the case. That I know for a fact.

nathalie, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

Naval gazing:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/drama/totheendsoftheearth/images/photogallery/340x255/anderson.jpg

Archel, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

PHWOAR!

nathalie, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

Afternoon all.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking from personal experience, k8, you have a good point about sorting out life v. work - i suspect i'd've made different work choices if i'm been happier personally. at the same time, though, to the extent that you include your work in your idea of your self, the change may be helpful (although i'm guessing this is less true for you than me)

Also (cliche cliche cliche) I personally am always less morose when I've had some exercise, so the "four stone" and "lazy" may be a vicious circle.

Please note you can't be too horrible otherwise we wouldn't all hang out on your threads.

mitya, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

To divert discussion from navel-gazing for a moment, where should I go to see Tegan and Sara in August:
- Um, Nottingham (Social)
- Brighton (Komedia)
- Copenhagen (Vega)
- Berlin (Tacheles)

mitya, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

Yndi Halda? Great band. Anyway, carry on.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

Ugh, I've wasted over an hour chasing down a weird field which behaves like a datetime, but is actually a date field. Can't figure it out. I hate this system.

I *have* to be hyper-critical/hyper-proud of my accomplishments. They're all I've got. I don't get to have other things like normal human relationships.

Just realising that trying to explain my family and why we are the way we are to my sister in law has brought up a lot of crap. It explains why I am the way I am, but it makes me unhappy and bitter when I think about it. Which is why I generally *don't* think about it. Stirring shit up is a bad idea.

Also, I'm realising more and more that although crushes make me super-happy in the short term, in the long run, they are horribly bad for me. It's like crack, I need more and more to get the same result. And when it comes crashing down to reality, like it always does, I am left feeling even more alone and unlovable than before.

But really, how can anyone else ever love you, when you hate yourself as much as I do? It's a vicious circle, with no way out.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

smalldatetime fields are crap.

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Now I wish I hadn't bought an advance ticket for tonight, because now I feel so shit I don't want to go anywhere but home, to bed. and yet it was way too much money to just write off. :-(

And I'll go on my own and feel like a plank, and be weird if no one talks to me, and be even weirder if anyone does talk to me, and just feel shit.

Why do I have to go on feeling like this, again and again? It's so unpleasant.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, this is fucking shite.

I have been trying to find out how to go to this festival. Dude who runs it is ignoring my emails. Now I look up on his space, and there's this message going "it's a private party, only for friends of friends, like a six degrees of separation type thing".

OK, I guess I'm not cool enough to go to your party, then. What, am I supposed to list, like, six people we know in common? What a fucking load of toss. I'm very tempted to write him back and say so. And then unfriend the fucker.

So much for the fucking scene that celebrates itself.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

Six degrees of separation is basically a fancy-assed way of saying "a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend [or closer]".

Private party = not letting the plebs in. He might not be ignoring you so much as not actually be checking his emails right now. If you know people in/around any of these bands (you know TEY, right?), email them and ask if they can put in a word for you to get an invite.

ailsa, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

Also, chin up. Go home, look at your paisley walls, put on some cheery music. Stop over-thinking stuff right now.

ailsa, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

Thing about MySpace is, it tells you when people read your emails.

I know what six degrees of separation is. I am friends with a LOT of people in that scene. I think it's just pathetic that i would have to go "hey, I know Nat and Claire and Roger and Dave and Joel and Ian" to get in. I mean, the whole thing about MySpace is that they can just LOOK at your page, and see who's on your friends list, or see who's left you comments and see AT A GLANCE if you know anyone in common.

Fuck this elitist shit. If I'm just not cool enough for their festival, well, fuck the load of it. It's not like I am actually going to be able to go in the end anyway. And if it's going to be a bunch of people sitting around being snobby because they all know each other, it doesn't sound like a whole lot of fun anyway.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

Oh well, I tried :-/

ailsa, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 17:18 (eighteen years ago)

thursday, watercooler back to the top of the queue

mitya, Thursday, 21 June 2007 07:24 (eighteen years ago)

hey everyone

no festival is gonna top ILXfest anyway

RIGHT!?

H-ari A-shurst, Thursday, 21 June 2007 07:26 (eighteen years ago)

Kate, to quote a terrible song (hah!) "you do it to yourself." Stop worrying so much! Noone is gonna will all of the battles in life. I know from experience. So you just have to ignore the crap and focus on the good.

Another day, another chance to be happy. :-)

nathalie, Thursday, 21 June 2007 07:34 (eighteen years ago)

Six degrees of sep?

Man, that's everyone in the world!

I was at one point, four degrees of sep from George Harrison! It didn't mean I got to be on the Trav Wilbury's album tho.

Mark G, Thursday, 21 June 2007 08:24 (eighteen years ago)

i wore the same bunnysuit as justin timberlake but i am not britney spears

emsk, Thursday, 21 June 2007 09:20 (eighteen years ago)

Morning there. A database I thought was dead and buried has returned from the grave to haunt my working hours.

If you want to whinge about date and/or time fields: well, you know I've whinged before about the 'database' our accounting system uses, and its ODBC SQL interface. Said SQL interface has *no way* of converting a literal string into a date/time field. So there's no way of doing queries like "SELECT * FROM orders WHERE order_date > '2007-01-01'" - it will just fail and tell you it can't convert a string to a date. Wonderful.

Forest Pines Mk2, Thursday, 21 June 2007 09:32 (eighteen years ago)

Damnit:

Still not free of finns
I poured brandy in my laptop
the RDC server is dumping me out every 19 minutes

Ed, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

Morning. I'm in a slightly better mood this morning (couldn't get much worse) but now I'm slightly ruined. No more drinking on week nights. I can't hack it.

Sonic Cathedrals was strange. Luckily I ran into someone I knew (D, friend of a friend, 2 degrees of separation) and we bagged the good bench behind the soundboard. We assembled a gang of girls who had gone on their own, so it was good. Met a couple of people. Man With The Amazing Beard was doing lights, so I said hello and you don't know me but I know people you know and asked him about the festival. D also wants to go, so I suggested we get a car.

I was tired and hot and somewhat bad-tempered, so I didn't really have that great of a time to start with. Flowers of Hell were great of course, but the French Band really wound me up. The Clientele were lovely, just what I needed at the time - but these horrible hipsters kept TALKING TALKING TALKING all the way through. And someone smashed a bench into my calf. Ouch.

Dean and Britta went on and made everything better, though. Oh, the tremoloes. And Sonic Boom came out and played Omnichord with them. (Sort of a fucked up electronic autoharp.) Turned out one of the random girls played autoharp as a kid! Big Bloke told hipsters to SHUT THE FUCK UP and they went quiet and moved off. Hurrah.

We were all (about 3 or 4 girls) trying to balance on these 2 long, thin benches like planks. The bench starts wobbling like crazy and we all nearly fall off, and look back and see Sonic Boom balancing next to me on the end, gleefully and I'm all "don't upset the plank!" and he's all "ha ha! I love upsetting planks!" and hops across several of them like a lanky pirate to talk to the sound man, nearly scattering all us girls in the process. Quite bizarre encounter. I ended up in a bizarre conversation with him about autoharps by the end of the evening.

The end.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)

And Sonic Boom came out and played Omnichord with them. (Sort of a fucked up electronic autoharp.)

Always wanted one of those, yer average autoharp is too quiet to be much use.

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:46 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, he told me autoharps are much better than omnichords, but I was like "you can't play one live unless you stick a pickup in it!" But he said he just used them for recording.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)

They are great, you don't need to learn chord shapes or any of that stuff, just push buttons

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:51 (eighteen years ago)

No, I love the omnichord to bits (c.f. Pram).

emil.y, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:51 (eighteen years ago)

(The no bit was to autoharps being better, sorry.)

emil.y, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:52 (eighteen years ago)

we must have duel, kate on the autoharp vs Emily on the omnichord, this could be a concept album, St Claire vs Kawasaki.

Ed, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:53 (eighteen years ago)

That would be awesome.

I asked the girl from NYC if she fancied playing autoharp for us some time, too. Though she belongs to a dance troupe which is always off doing ballets out of town, so who knows if we could schedule it.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:56 (eighteen years ago)

The new version of "Reason" apparently includes a sound bank programmed by Sonic Boom.

Pashmina, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:56 (eighteen years ago)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Must. Buy. Reason. For the first time ever.

So, uh, Yndi Halda are playing Sat 23rd - Notting Hill Arts Club, London. I really really really hope thats an afternoon show so I can get back to South London in time for Long Swords.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:01 (eighteen years ago)

Hahaha, duel would be GRATE, though I fear Kate would win through superior playing skills. To be even-handed about this, I think my love for Omnichords is influenced more by associations and subsequent fetishisation than any thought-out comparison with the autoharp.... but I *love* them.

emil.y, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:04 (eighteen years ago)

You're assuming that I have the slightest clue how to PLAY an autoharp, Emil.y!

You press buttons and strum. It's harder than it looks. I think you will win coz an Omnichord is LOUDER.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:08 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.propellerheads.se/products/reason4/index.cfm?fuseaction=get_article&article=more

(scroll down to "Signature patches")

the new sequencer looks awesome, I think I'll take the plunge myself when it comes out.

Pashmina, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:09 (eighteen years ago)

I COULD HAVE THE SONIC BOOM WUB NOISE COMING OUT OF MY SHINY SILVER BOX!!!

How awesome would that be?

OK, my piece of shit non-updated Mac would probably refuse to run the new Reason. ARgh.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:13 (eighteen years ago)

I'd be interested in hearing the Plaid patch... and Morgan Geist, because I've forgotten who Morgan Geist is and it's really annoying me.

emil.y, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

The Richard Barbieri set is the one that's piqued my interest. The new synthesiser does look pretty great, too.

Pashmina, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:24 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha ha, I asked Nat about a song he played at SC last night, going "that's GREAT, I need to get it! what is it?" only to realise when he told me what it was, that I do already own it. I think.

My CD collection is out of hand.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:27 (eighteen years ago)

Morgan Geist - Plaid - Sonic Boom - Two Lone Swordsmen

Noooo, don't make me want Reason! I can't get on with the interface, it seems to work better for people who are more used to hardware than software. Does it load VSTs yet?

I saw an omnichord in a shop once and didn't buy it because it was a bit more than I thought it should be, though I haven't seen another since so I guess it was a good deal. I've been regretting it ever since. Though actually I hardly use the gear I do have (I realise now the rightful owner of some of it has started to talk about getting it back) so I guess it would just be another layer of clutter...

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:32 (eighteen years ago)

xpost I do that too, except I'm terrible at titles, so I still wouldn't know until I got home and looked it up, and then I'd only have the faintest nagging feeling that I'd bought an album which looked a bit like that. I have some dreams of selling the CDs I don't want so it's easier to find the CDs I do want, except I don't think it would work, and apparently The Kids do not buy CDs any more.

(vinyl is just a dead loss now the only flat surface for my router is on top of the record deck lid)

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:35 (eighteen years ago)

I don't entirely know what a VST is!

But yeah, it's really user friendly for people who are used to working with actual physical equipment, which is why I (and so many musos) love it so much. Especially that you can tab and see round the back of all the "units".

When I alphabetised my CD collection I was embarrassed to find I actually had doubles of some albums that I had forgot I bought and then bought again.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:36 (eighteen years ago)

Aww Kate that's great. I was cursing my timing when i heard that Dean and Britta were playing - i missed them by a couple of days. Does SB still look about 25? He did when i saw him last year with my doomed office crush.

leigh, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:41 (eighteen years ago)

Hey folks. I'm just going down the town. Big rainclouds forming though. I know 5 mins down the road and it will start pissing down.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:42 (eighteen years ago)

SB has cut his hair, which has aged him slightly. He now looks about 28.

Just the look of sheer *glee* on his face as he tried to pitch us off our blank.

OH NOES SONIC BOOM MADE ME WALK THE PLANK!!!

Hey, Kerr! Take an umbrella!

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:43 (eighteen years ago)

blank = plank, clearly. Arrrrrr.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:44 (eighteen years ago)

He tried pitch us off our blank

That sounds like some kind of weird slang expression

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:46 (eighteen years ago)

Say it in Terry Wogan's voice then get a c-lister to give you some comedy answers.

onimo, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:49 (eighteen years ago)

Does SB still look about 25?

YES, last autumn I saw SB + Piano Magic at a festival and thought "huh, he looks younger than Piano Magic... wait, he looks younger than most of the bands on the bill".

I also found a nice cosy spot at the back to sit down (this was after, oh, 6 hours of mostly standing?) and zone out under an overhanging piece of decor, got many looks like I was clearly out of my head, and had someone say hi to me that I babbled incoherently back at and later realised he was an ILMer. Heh.

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:50 (eighteen years ago)

Clister? 70s German band? (xp)

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:50 (eighteen years ago)

Does SB still look about 25?

Heroin is good for you!

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:51 (eighteen years ago)

(xp, that YES was out of gladness that someone else remarked on this and not because I think "last autumn" is more recent than Kate's "last night". Er.)

a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:51 (eighteen years ago)

Although I fear I may have my leg bitten off or something for saying this, he may look 25, but he looks like a 25 year old who has spent the last 20 years on skag. This surely is not a good look?

emil.y, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:56 (eighteen years ago)

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/17336.jpg

(sorry if the title of that album cover are illegible, it's supposed to be "Skag Heaven".)

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 11:58 (eighteen years ago)

He was playing with magnetaphone and king creosote when i saw him, must have been late april last year - i failed to recognise him at first because i assumed the guy on stage was much too young looking to be him. He was also the first person i saw flout the smoking ban - he sparked up and a guy from venue quickly went over and asked him to put it out.

leigh, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:01 (eighteen years ago)

That Sonic Boom, he's a rebel and he'll never never be any good.

He has been looking remarkably healthy in the past year or so.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:03 (eighteen years ago)

Smoking's good for you!

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:04 (eighteen years ago)

This day is completely utterly fucked. Hey tears.

nathalie, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:06 (eighteen years ago)

Oh no, Nath, what's the matter? What's happened?

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

What's happened, nath??

C J, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

I actually found that squirrelbait record in a second hand shop, i didn't buy it though.

leigh, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

Allee Waltzer by Thomas Dinger = best use of Rockenspiel, ever.

Hope yr OK, Nath, sending good vibes yr way. You know we love you here.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:24 (eighteen years ago)

I don't want to sit crying behind my comp (even tho I do). At least noone sees me crying. Wee.
Hey didn't I say this day good be GREBT? Well, not mine!

nathalie, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:36 (eighteen years ago)

Shit, why did I put foundation on today? WASTED money.

nathalie, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:37 (eighteen years ago)

Lonley teardrops. My pillow's never dry.

hahaha Shit, I gotta think of happy go lucky tunes.

nathalie, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:38 (eighteen years ago)

I'm gonna so regret having all this posted, right? RITE?

nathalie, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:38 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder if they are looking at me wondering "wimpy bitch, crying at your desk".

nathalie, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:39 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe I cn say it's just contractions and I'm crying for that?

nathalie, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:39 (eighteen years ago)

Hmm, maybe not.

nathalie, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:39 (eighteen years ago)

Hey look birdie.

nathalie, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:41 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry, I was getting lunch. What's the matter? I always hate crying at my desk. I have to go and lock myself in the loo. Sometimes just having a big weep makes me feel less shite, but I hate other people seeing me doing it.

I suppose it's different in an office than in a shop.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:42 (eighteen years ago)

Well, yeah. For one thing I can't control my tears as easily. Especially if a friend called and had a talk. My voice is way too loud. Everyone knows.

Hey look a BIG PINK ELEPHANT.

http://www.phsc.ca/Alf/pink-elephant.jpg

nathalie, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:48 (eighteen years ago)

Can I cheer you up with a LOLephant?

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/05/tirez.jpg

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:50 (eighteen years ago)

How about little baby LOLephants?

http://www.thelollies.co.uk/images/elephants2.gif

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

I have never cried at my desk, is it commonplace?

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:52 (eighteen years ago)

I think it's a girl thing.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:54 (eighteen years ago)

Shit, no, Tom. It's just... well, wrong isn't the word. It's just extremely uncomfortable for everyone involved. But heck, I'm pregnant, a woman (duh!),... And I can do the exception to the rule cause it's a freaking appropriate thing to do in the circumstances.

Still uncomfortable though. I hate doing it.

Kate, I had a good roffle at that!

nathalie, Thursday, 21 June 2007 12:54 (eighteen years ago)

I have just learned to be totally unapologetic about crying fits at my desk. I excuse myself and go to the loo until it's over. No use upsetting anyone else, or facing the questions of my colleagues.

I mean, in my case, it's one of the symptoms of depression, uncontrollable crying jags. But it's also a hormonal thing, at certain times of the month, or especially when pregnant, I would cry if I dropped a fork.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:04 (eighteen years ago)

Argh, these are the questions I am *supposed* to ask, as part of my job!

Do you really want to monitor these two independent criteria as subsets as each other (in which case, you'll be coming back to ask me for totals, I just know it) or do you want them monitored independently?

NO ONE BUYS SUB-PRIME BUY TO LET!!! It just doesn't happen. Why do you want to make me monitor it?

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

OK, I'm wrong. But there are only 101 cases in the entire database!

These are independent criteria, they are not linked.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

But heck, I'm pregnant

Now that is a girl thing!

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, that's sexist!

Oh wait...

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

Arnie was preggers.

I JUST TYPED PREGGERS.

nathalie, Thursday, 21 June 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

Eh, I just messaged one of the moderators on SoS forum, asked him to ban me from it. Being told to "get a life" by someone who's trademark is histrionics about "prolitical correctness" = the last straw for me. It used to be a cool forum, now it's just a load of whining as far as I can see.

Pashmina, Thursday, 21 June 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

WTF? What do rants on prolitical correctness have to do with Sound Production?

Anyway, I'm quite pleased as one of our marathon 2-gigs-in-2-nights has turned out to be doubled booked, so we've cancelled. I'm actually really relieved. I was wondering how on earth I was going to cope.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway, I'm pregnant. Wait.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 June 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

Congratulations! Dan must be so proud!

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha

onimo, Thursday, 21 June 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, it's the off-topic flamepit. I've seriously lost respect for a bunch of ppl who post there over the last month or so, it's like it's been taken over by daily mail readers.

Pashmina, Thursday, 21 June 2007 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

Congratulations! Dan must be so proud!

It's amazing how these things happen.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 June 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

YSI?

nathalie, Thursday, 21 June 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

short for you sperm it

nathalie, Thursday, 21 June 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

It's quite scary to find out what "normal, regular type people" actually believe sometimes. I always think of artists and creative types being quite liberal, and it can be shocking to find out that a great deal of them aren't at all.

x-posts

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

Nath - EEEUUUWWWW!

;-)

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha, I just got emailed a picture of my boss PACKED IN A MOVING BOX.

I have no idea when I'm going to pack. I suppose I should do it today to avoid doing it in a hurry tomorrow. Plus, I'm ascared I'm going to run out of boxes. And whatever I pack, I will need tomorrow. Argh!

Must remember to take all the crap out from under my desk and take home TONIGHT.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

I'm very tempted to post it,but I know it would be Lolcatted in a moment and end up all over the interweb and then she would KEEEEEEEL me.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

Hey folks. I ended up going into Glasgow. Bought some cds and an lp I didnt actually plan on buying. Damn you Monorailmusic.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

Well, what do you expect if you go record shopping, but to come back with records?

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

I was only really in a for a walkabout. But they had loads and loads of stuff. I got 4 cds on the Paradigms label. The last Guapo cd and a Sunn o))) spin off lp.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

Do you do anything other than listen to music all day?

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:27 (eighteen years ago)

It can take me weeks to listen to a CD!

Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

That's because you're too busy out in swinging london!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

I wish it were swinging that stopped me from listening to music. Unfortunately, it's my job that stops me, most days.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

I've just found out that listening to Dan Deacon on the way into work turns me into a grinning yet hardworking employee. I have four browsers open, three different messageboards and facebook.

Hot dankity.

Mister Craig, Friday, 22 June 2007 08:33 (eighteen years ago)

You guys don't me swinging swinging right?

nathalie, Friday, 22 June 2007 08:49 (eighteen years ago)

I love it when typos result from overexcited quick posting :-p

Mister Craig, Friday, 22 June 2007 08:58 (eighteen years ago)

Oh shit. Uh, MEAN MEAN MEAN.

nathalie, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:23 (eighteen years ago)

Nath, you're so mean if you know what I mean. ;-)

j/k, you know I love you!

It's Friday! Hurrah! I have a short day because the network is being switched off at 4pm for the move! Hurrah! We have just had a massive problem with the file I sent through last night which has to be DONE DONE COMPLETELY REDONE by 2pm. Boo.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:35 (eighteen years ago)

Love you too! Doobeedoo! :-)

nathalie, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:38 (eighteen years ago)

URg the fins are messing with me. They have booked me to go over for the first full weekend in july without specifying whether it is friday saturday or saturday sunday they want me and the have optioned me for the following weekend which is personally very important to me indeed. WOuld be fine if they confirmed because then I could work round that.

Ed, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:40 (eighteen years ago)

Heheheh! Apologies!

Mister Craig, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:40 (eighteen years ago)

Pfff as if you MEAN that. ;-)

nathalie, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:41 (eighteen years ago)

Morning folks, my mammy is getting her hip replaced right about now, hope it goes smoothly.

leigh, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:42 (eighteen years ago)

Hope yr Mammy is alright!

I am going bandage free for the first time today.

And I've cheekily asked if I can have the spot at Long Swords that someone dropped out of for Saturday. No time to assemble any music, I'll just set up some drones and wub. Especially since Ken C still hasn't claimed his microkorg. Heh. I'm sure she's found someone else, though.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:44 (eighteen years ago)

Ah well, looks like someone else was quicker than me. :-(

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:49 (eighteen years ago)

you were badmouthing the microkorg not so long ago.

Ed, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:51 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not going to look a gifthorse in the mouth!

The Microkorg is shit compared to the MS10 or the MS20, but I'm sure I could get some fun wub out of it.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:52 (eighteen years ago)

I've just found out that listening to Dan Deacon on the way into work turns me into a grinning yet hardworking employee. I have four browsers open, three different messageboards and facebook.

How does this make you hardworking?

emil.y, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:52 (eighteen years ago)

Posting to all those messageboards is hard work!

Speaking of which, I have got to get this thing sorted out. MUST GET OFFLINE.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:53 (eighteen years ago)

Multitasking my dear! I'm working too. I'll burn out by lunchtime though. Are we going to have bagel fun at lunchtime?

Mister Craig, Friday, 22 June 2007 09:53 (eighteen years ago)

Mmmm, bagels. I wish there were a good bagel shop near here. There's one on Leather Lane, isn't there? I suppose I can go there when we've moved.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:08 (eighteen years ago)

Gah, I dunno. I'm really tired and hungover, but I might make it out for 1. Probably. Possibly.

xpost there's a 24-hour bagel shop in Stoke Newington. Bagels!

emil.y, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:09 (eighteen years ago)

I Want More (Bagel Shops).

Mister Craig, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

There are no good bagels in Holborn. I have to make do with a Bap. But it's two more hours to lunch! Maybe I should just have another coffee.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:11 (eighteen years ago)

Are you guys all pronouncing it 'boigle' in your heads? It is the only true way.

emil.y, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:12 (eighteen years ago)

To be poyfectly harnessed....I'm thinking about the donuts.

Mister Craig, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:14 (eighteen years ago)

No, I'm pronoucing it "Beige - uhl" (as in the colour). Because that's how it's spelled in London. Beigel. I suppose they are kind of brown, but it still seems wrong.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:16 (eighteen years ago)

'Beigel'? Really? Is that a localised spelling or a common error?

emil.y, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:18 (eighteen years ago)

Beagle
http://www.poster.net/peanuts/peanuts-snoopy-roof-2410230.jpg

onimo, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:19 (eighteen years ago)

It's a Brick Lane thing, I think.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:21 (eighteen years ago)

'Beigel'? Really? Is that a localised spelling or a common error?

Buy-gel. It's Yiddish I think. That's how my friend David pronounces it.

Tom D., Friday, 22 June 2007 10:21 (eighteen years ago)

Bagel is for Gentiles

Tom D., Friday, 22 June 2007 10:22 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I'm certainly a gentile, now GIVE ME BAGELS.

Now I've got Jonathan Fire*Eater stuck in my head.

"Give me bagels
And make 'em 1 - 2 - 3!"

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:23 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, yeah, pronouncing it that way is cool, I just didn't realise the spelling changed. I mean, I think the 'boigle' pronounciation comes from the 'buygel', it's US Yiddish, isn't it?

xpost and now I have that stuck in my head too.

emil.y, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:25 (eighteen years ago)

US Yiddish? Just Yiddish!

Tom D., Friday, 22 June 2007 10:25 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, 'boigle' is US...

emil.y, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:25 (eighteen years ago)

"Buy-gel" just sounds like a bad 'Stenders accent to me.

x-post There are totally regional differences in pronounciation of Yiddish!

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:26 (eighteen years ago)

Given that no one else has bothered to turn up in today I am going to go and 'work' from home (also it is a public holiday in most of Europe and I have no customers to talk to)

Ed, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

OK, I've had to put a bandage back on my scary scar, as it's just too painful having it rub against all the wrist guards on my computer stuff.

What holiday is it in Europe?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:30 (eighteen years ago)

Do those hippies get the Solstice off?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:30 (eighteen years ago)

Hippies don't work!

Tom D., Friday, 22 June 2007 10:31 (eighteen years ago)

I mean I can understand Finns getting the Solstice off, becuase they're so high up near the Arctic circle that it's probably light for 20 hours a day and they're all bouncing off the walls going bonkers with all the sunlight and CAN'T work, but, like, most of Europe is further south than us.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:35 (eighteen years ago)

Let's have some pictures of hippies celebrating the solstice:

http://i.n.com.com/i/ne/p/2006/621stonehengecel550x363.jpg

http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/henge-84-solstice1.jpg

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.lugodoc.demon.co.uk/Druids/1993%20Dylan%20&%20Arthur.jpg

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:40 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.lugodoc.demon.co.uk/Druids/1905%20AOD%20Stonehenge.jpg

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:40 (eighteen years ago)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY'VE DISCONNECTED THE COFFEE MACHINE!!!!!!!!!!!

I'M GOING ON STRIKE TILL WE GET COFFEE BACK!!!!

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:43 (eighteen years ago)

XPost (I has a coffee :-p)

My one visit to Stonehenge was at about 5 am one Summer morn nearly 9 years ago. Me and a couple of mates were out 'shrooming at the Arbor Low stone circle in Derbyshire and an eerie orange moon convinced us to abscond, with a pretty much solely Led Zep soundtrack, down to Stonehenge. My erstwhile chum Lee drove through the night...we clippered the fence and ran into the circle...it was amazing.

A warden pottered over after about ten minutes and nattered with us, but was quite friendly and said he could only give us 20 odd minutes, and that was just down to his tosser of a boss. We went on to tour the stones of the south-west... wonderful days, met loads of absolute nutters from all over the shop.

Mister Craig, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:46 (eighteen years ago)

Despite all our megalith hunting, I've never actually been to Stonehenge!

Driven past it in a tourvan, but never actually stopped and gone to look. Compared to Avebury, it's just not that impressive.

We still need to do our tour of stone circles of the Peak District and go look for Barbrooke 1 and 2 and all.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:48 (eighteen years ago)

Now I am going to listen to the Sons of TC Lethbridge due to all this stone circle talk.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:50 (eighteen years ago)

The Nine Ladies in Derbyshire is/was my favourite, just that whole moor/park...magical. Stonehenge is awesome from within, not quite as wow from without.

Mister Craig, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:53 (eighteen years ago)

This is all the more reason for you and Emil.y to get your Krautrock club going, becuase then the Shimuras will come up to Nottingham and play, and we can take the next day off and go megalith hunting oop norf! This is the way we like to tour!

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 10:55 (eighteen years ago)

Compared to Avebury, it's just not that impressive.

Oh, it's still pretty impressive.

Tom D., Friday, 22 June 2007 11:03 (eighteen years ago)

Like most celebrities, it looks smaller in person! Who does its press?

Which reminds me I should buy Alex James' book.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:04 (eighteen years ago)

Afternoon all

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:04 (eighteen years ago)

Hahaha, Kate, you will *love* the guy who I'm supposed to be doing the krautrock night with, he is a big stone circle nut. I still haven't asked him about whether we're going to actually do it and if he wants you to play, though. I am teh rubbish.

emil.y, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:04 (eighteen years ago)

I should really think about getting the bus if I'm going to meet Mister Craig for lunch, shouldn't I? Gah.

emil.y, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:05 (eighteen years ago)

I think that working from home will include a lot of bellzouki and phaser playing.

Ed, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:05 (eighteen years ago)

Hey, Kerr! Been on any record shop binges today? ;-)

x-post ah, he sounds great. Krautrock and stone cirles. Why do they go together? It's not the Julian Cope connection, I think that's symptomatic rather than the root cause. Is it just a love of obscure and arcane things? Hippie-dom?

more x-posts

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:06 (eighteen years ago)

I should really think about getting the bus if I'm going to meet Mister Craig for lunch, shouldn't I? Gah.
-- emil.y, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:04 (5 minutes ago)

Yep. I'll head to the Malt for 1ish whatevers. I have an Indie, you can get the Grauniad if you read this.

Avebury's great...but having a pub within a circle isn't necessarily a wonderous thing. Sleeping in the henge and being woken by bleating sheep, however, is.

Mister Craig, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:12 (eighteen years ago)

Nope hehe. I did get the 2 Khanate live cd's I ordered last week from
Archive Recordings though. Great prices as ever.

Too busy arguing with The Lex about Hüsker Dü winning that The Seventh P&J Singles Poll! to listen to them though!

and HURRAH FOR GRANPAW BROON! emil.y did you make the mister vote for Horace? ;)

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:13 (eighteen years ago)

There should be more pubs in circles!

You know how I feel about drinking with megaliths!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/232/460638125_4c18489588.jpg

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:15 (eighteen years ago)

Frances is a megalith? ;)

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

Krautrock and stone cirles. Why do they go together? It's not the Julian Cope connection, I think that's symptomatic rather than the root cause. Is it just a love of obscure and arcane things? Hippie-dom?

No, that is Julian Cope. Don't call me a hippy!

Tom D., Friday, 22 June 2007 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

Hippy!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:17 (eighteen years ago)

She is indeed.

x-post Krautrock and Stone Circles had already become associated way before Copey! I blame Hawkwind if I blame anyone.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:17 (eighteen years ago)

Motorik has nothing to do with the past! The past is dead!! Year Zero!!! Stockhausen!!!! Etc!!

Tom D., Friday, 22 June 2007 11:20 (eighteen years ago)

Makes a change from you blaming hstencil.
x-post

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:21 (eighteen years ago)

x-post

It's all about getting in teh zone, isn't it, what!

Mister Craig, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:22 (eighteen years ago)

Vorwärts!

Tom D., Friday, 22 June 2007 11:22 (eighteen years ago)

You are confusing blaming and flirting.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:22 (eighteen years ago)

I am glad that I went to the coffee shop. They have put INSTANT COFFEE in the kitchen. What is the point of that, I ask you? JUST PUT A GUN TO MY HEAD AND SHOOT ME IT WOULD BE KINDER.

Instant coffee, a nonsense!

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 11:59 (eighteen years ago)

INDUSTRIAL ACTION TIME

tissp, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:01 (eighteen years ago)

It's the 70s revival! Krautrock! Hawkwind! Industrial Action!

Tom D., Friday, 22 June 2007 12:02 (eighteen years ago)

We have the same problem here, Kate. They took away our filter coffee and now we just have industrial vats of Nescafe Gold Blend :'(

I told the office manager the IT dept is on the verge of rioting but so far to no avail.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:03 (eighteen years ago)

Ted Heath might win the next election

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:04 (eighteen years ago)

I want Harold Wilson back. With Paddy.

Tom D., Friday, 22 June 2007 12:07 (eighteen years ago)

We don't have a 1st lady here.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:12 (eighteen years ago)

Paddy was his dog.

Tom D., Friday, 22 June 2007 12:13 (eighteen years ago)

a bitch?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:14 (eighteen years ago)

It's not permanent. It's only because we're moving this afternoon. We are being let off early (due to the lack of coffee situation... no, j/k)

At the new office, I might bring in mine own personal coffee maker. And plug it into the server, mwah hah hah.

IT and coffee! You just cannot separate the two! It's like Hawkwind and Stonehenge!

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:17 (eighteen years ago)

It's like Hawkwind fans and soap& water... no wait.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:17 (eighteen years ago)

Hush. I know I didn't shower this morning. AND I am wearing a Hawkwind shirt. But the two things are not related. It's sheer laziness.

I have eaten my lunch and had my industrial action coffee. Now back to work I suppose. Sigh.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 12:20 (eighteen years ago)

OK, I think I've done all the urgent stuffs... now to pack, and then I'm out of here for the weekend! Hurrah!

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 13:12 (eighteen years ago)

OK, I've got labels with my name on, on everything. Box. Computer. Monitors. Phone. They said not to tag yr mouse, but i'm really protective of my mouse. Maybe I'll just put it in the box. But hten no more interwebs!

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

And no more Fopp according to that ilm thread!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 22 June 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

Eh, what? What does my mouse have to do with Fopp?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 13:59 (eighteen years ago)

Oh noes, Fopp is going? It cannot be!

Where will all the cuet boys in Covent Garden work, then?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going down to the Reading one tonight. Just to check.

Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

Argh, I have to carry stuff home from work or else I'd check ours on the way home. Maybe I will anyway.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

I had turkey, avocado, cucumber, spring onion with dressing (olive oil, mint, honey) splashed over it. Not so bad. Didn't eat much though. Also had one spoonful of rice.

nathalie, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:03 (eighteen years ago)

Our one closes at six.

If it hasn;t closed already!! I'd have checked this lunchtime, but 1) got distracted 2) didn't know this news.

Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

Kontakte are looking for musicians again. I don't even know if I should be bothered volunteering again, as they've already said no before.

And you know, plus, I'm not a skinny indie boy, so bands never want me to join, regardless of my musicianship. :-(

And Ian wasn't speaking to me on Saturday, I'm presuming because they're still sore over me not namedropping them in that silly review I did of the 120Days gig. Sigh. ::rolls eyes::

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

Eh, what? What does my mouse have to do with Fopp?

You said no more interwebs!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

ONLY AFTER I UNPLUG MINE MOUSE!!!

Then the interweb go bye-bye. You know, like "fog in channel, Europe cut off".

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I volunteered. I'm only going to be shot down again, but I suppose it can't hurt.

FIFTY MINUTES TIL INTERWEB GO BYE-BYE! ARRGGHHH!!!

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

I wish I had known and went into FOPP yesterday.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

48 now

mitya, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:17 (eighteen years ago)

Happy 48th birthday Mitya ;)

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:19 (eighteen years ago)

There is faff now next to me, because just over half an hour to go, and the bank recc won't recconcile.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

Morning. Yay zucchini bread.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:24 (eighteen years ago)

OK, I WANTS TO GO HOME NOW!!!

I feel way too bouncey to be at work. I think it might have been that extra huge BUCKET of coffee was much stronger than the crap that comes out of the vending machine.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

I have packed everythign!

Even FRED, the Liberty Print Hippo!

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

I am now blasting Hawkwind as loud as my pathetic inbuilt speaker will allow me! Hurrah!

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

Finally got the ILX bucket page up!

Will add the front/back pics for the cover later.

Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

COUNTING DOWN, FIVE MINUTES...

Masonic Boom, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

Does anybody know any details about the Wire/Electra Fest thing in thart London in October? I've searched for details but all I can find is that Boredoms play on October 26. Neeed....Borreddommses...

Mister Craig, Friday, 22 June 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

have a good weekend, all!

mitya, Friday, 22 June 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

Ta-ra!

Mister Craig, Friday, 22 June 2007 15:02 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone's off having fun, but not me. Yet.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 June 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

Me neither. Emil.y is sitting in the pub with Matt out of Saint Joan and I'm stuck here at work for another hour. Gaaaah.

Mister Craig, Friday, 22 June 2007 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

I've had usual Friday lunchtime session, but have 90 mins before I can go home and continue it.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 22 June 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

Emil.y is sitting in the pub with Matt out of Saint Joan

Hey, cool! (In that I like me Saint Joan -- saw 'em last year at Terrastock and hope to be reviewing the new album for the AMG.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 June 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

Woohoo! Job offer!

G00blar, Friday, 22 June 2007 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

well done G00blar! where is it?

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 22 June 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

In my current department (you-see-el), just part time, but teaching the seminars that I was REALLY hoping to teach (Moderns 2, so I gets to pick 4 books from 1945-onwards, which is my period).

G00blar, Friday, 22 June 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

excellent! just the kind of news you need to kick of the weekend.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 22 June 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone's off having fun, but not me. Yet.

If you consider O havng an echo fun...

nathalie, Friday, 22 June 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

I am being taken on a STAG WEEKEND in like two hours. :)

G00blar, Friday, 22 June 2007 15:22 (eighteen years ago)

get drunk, dude

Ed, Friday, 22 June 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

New job, hurrah!

I have a new office, so for a bit, I feel like I have a new job.

Upside, no neighbor so I can spread my programming manual library all over the next desk.

Downside NO COFFEE MACHINE. I have to make mine own instant. Blech.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 09:55 (eighteen years ago)

I bought a one cup filter at the weekend and some strong ethiopian so I am very happy.

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 09:57 (eighteen years ago)

Install speaker towers and blast sunn((((o (or is that sunn o))))?)

(((1!!))!()

mitya, Monday, 25 June 2007 09:58 (eighteen years ago)

I was blasting Hawkwind for the last ten minutes in the old office. Don't dare try it here.

I've got a window - with a view of a construction site. :-(

I think I am going to have to bring in mine own coffeemaker. I've also been told that we are not allowed to eat smelly lunch at our desks - we have to go to the "breakout area!". OK... I will heat my smelly lunch up in our kitchen, then take said smelly lunch through THE ENTIRE OFFICE to get to the breakout area - and eat my smelly lunch right near the customer area. Yeah, someone hasn't thought this through.

Plus, well, no more people bugging me when I'm eating might be good. But it means no more surfing at lunchtime.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:01 (eighteen years ago)

I recorded the modular synthesiser & drum machine backing I programed for the ilx festival into the computer before I pulled all the wires out:

http://download.yousendit.com/11C548E92091FF9D

I was pretty loaded when I was doing it, so apols for amy mistakes/fluffs.

Pashmina, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:15 (eighteen years ago)

Awesome!

(though I've been having entirely too much fun with Ken's Microkorg all weekend, I'm going to have to sample that like crazy before I give it back - unless you're willing to lend it to me for a while, Ken?)

But argh, trying to get DDBs to give CREDIT on artwork you do for them is annoying... How hard is it to just put in "Artwork by Kate St.Claire" on something?

I did this Saturday afternoon. I also did some quite good stuff in the Windmill during NOTLS (during the bits that I wasn't getting in a fight wiht a drunken mentalist - do I have "attack me" written on my forehead or what?)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1312/620230997_64ba7febfb.jpg

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:19 (eighteen years ago)

Saturday was interesting. Had meltdown tickets and i walked us into the wrong venue, (had tickets for the QEH and we walked into the RFH) so instead of Andy Votel's lost ladies of folk we got Espers side project the Valerie project and Jarvis. I didn't really notice this I just assumed VP were supporting AVatLLoF. Came back in, had our tickets check for a second time, in and someone was sitting in our seats, we looked at the tickets and didn't notice the obvious mistake. So I ended up standing at the front with the photographers. Once Jarvis started everyone swarmed up anyway. Ended up dancing and chatting with an enthusiastic fan who turned out to be JC's wife. Spent most of my time ogling the gorgeous guitars and swirly phasers. JC almost broke my fingers with a mic stand which might have promoted some SC/JC beef.

The Valerie Project were the stars though, utterly utterly amazing. Live soundtrack to a bizarre czech film with salacious priests, nuns, vampires, people getting burnt at the stake, people turning into their grandmothers etc.

The after party featured a reformed Sheffield New Wave band called artery who were very very good, incredibly tight.

Good evening all round really.

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:23 (eighteen years ago)

put artwork by kate st claire and I myspazz link in the corner

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:23 (eighteen years ago)

I forgot to put "KMF" in the corner like I usually do. I just figure my artwork is pretty distinctive, so no one's going to try to pass it off as their own. Ah, it's OK, DDBs being floppy and useless, he just couldn't figure out how to do it. Bless. So I explained how MySpace works to him.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:26 (eighteen years ago)

How hard is it to just put in "Artwork by Kate St.Claire" on something?

Very easy indeed! (copy/paste as per reverse of ILX comp! you people!!)

Mark G, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:26 (eighteen years ago)

Gah, ineffectual human being. I could rule that scene with an iron fist what with my grasp of technology and everything.

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:27 (eighteen years ago)

The whole appeal of DDBs is that they are floppy and useless!

They resist technology they do not understand!

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:33 (eighteen years ago)

...except guitar pedals.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:33 (eighteen years ago)

Speaking of which, I am utterly failing to "get" Ulrich Schnauss.

It's like he took all the bits of shoegaze that I'm not really bothered about and mixed them with Eurotrance.

Though I did go on a bit of a CD binge at Rough Trade on Friday, and picked up some more Reigns (all their stuff is really good, not just Styne Vallis) and some Grails and the first Brian Eno and Cluster album which is AMAZING.

And got the best of Adam Ant (plus DVD) for £3.99 at Sainsburys! I don't want to talk about how many times I watched Stand and Deliver. Why don't modern bands make videos like that any more? They're so cheesey but SO GREAT.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:36 (eighteen years ago)

I rather get Ulrich schnauss because he appears to have mixed shoegaze with minimal german techno.

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:44 (eighteen years ago)

Morning all. I found out the Pastels were supporting the JAMC on Friday and in a fit of last minute impulsiveness managed to get a ticket right by the stage (must have been some returns as the gig was apparently completely sold out with tickets going for £££ on Ebay)! Hurrah!

Colonel Poo, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:47 (eighteen years ago)

that is one of the good things about the south bank - Returns

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:50 (eighteen years ago)

argh, I HATE YOU!!1 I wanted to go to that and couldnae get tickets. How were they? Chick who was playing at NOTLS (too drunked to remember her name) said they were really good.

US isn't minimal German techno, that would be fine. It's bad eurotrance. And too much HISNAMEISALIVEIFICATION. Man, turn that reverb down. Never though you'd hear me say that, did you?

have been playing with various pedals of Norman's. I still love Prunes and Custard, especially on keyboard. Still not sure about the Rising Sun, though, what all the knobs do. More than 3 knobs on a distortion pedal, I do not get. It has 5!

http://i13.tinypic.com/5zllt88.jpg

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:51 (eighteen years ago)

Haha Ed I'm going to mail Cam re. Dancing Grizzly Adams. She's ace, you can totally see why he married her. Favourite bit is she calls him The Cocker.

suzy, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:54 (eighteen years ago)

The new office is COLD like the old office was TOO HOT. Fortunately, my mum just mailed me a paisley jacket. She mailed it for my birthday - so how does it turn up at the new office when it never turned up at the old one?

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 10:57 (eighteen years ago)

JAMC were pretty good, I guess they were sober as they were all drinking water on stage! They didn't storm off stage mid-song like last time I saw them.

The Pastels I think had sound problems at first cos they were very muddy. They had 2 of Teenage Fanclub on bass & guitar. They played Nothing To Be Done, which made me happy.

Colonel Poo, Monday, 25 June 2007 11:25 (eighteen years ago)

And apparently it pays to complain! I phoned the council to get pest control out to sort out our rat problem, they told me 3 weeks, so I fired off a complaint email and they sent someone round today! Turns out it's not actually a rat, just a very large house mouse (I guess I've only ever had field mice before, cos they were tiny compared to this one). But they still carry lyme disease. Ugh.

Colonel Poo, Monday, 25 June 2007 11:27 (eighteen years ago)

Hurrah! I got tickets for JAMC in Brixton. A winner is me.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 11:29 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha, my printer is called Roger.

Field Mice in your house? Argh, get them out! Wibbling twee!

j/k but you were talking about the Pastels. ;-)

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 11:31 (eighteen years ago)

Artery have reformed? They were great, hope they make it up here.

leigh, Monday, 25 June 2007 11:32 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder if I can get Kaliflwr to come to England for this...

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 11:32 (eighteen years ago)

I do allow those Field Mice in my house, but only in small doses. I do like Sensitive though, fuck the haters.

Colonel Poo, Monday, 25 June 2007 11:34 (eighteen years ago)

Not sure if it was for keeps or just for Jarvis, but I would happily see them again.

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 11:36 (eighteen years ago)

I did this Saturday afternoon. I also did some quite good stuff in the Windmill during NOTLS (during the bits that I wasn't getting in a fight wiht a drunken mentalist - do I have "attack me" written on my forehead or what?)

From experience, if you attend a gig alone and you're female, then you don't need an "attack me" label on your forehead, they can smell you from a mile away, the pathetic losers. Sometimes I miss attending gigs, but 1 I don't listen to much music anymore and 2 I don't think these mentalists could take my attacks anymore. I mean, I do think I'd be even snappier than my old single self, probably coupled with a few slappings of the Gender Trouble book on their forehead. Re 1 I am trying to find a way to listen to more music. Yes, yes, I know, how hard can it be: just put a bloody record on! Well, uh, I sit in the living room most of the time and it doesn't have a turntable/stereo so I'd need to put a headphone on (attached to an ipod of course hah!) on but what if O would start screaming and I didn't hear her? Hmm. That said, I have downloaded the Gossip record and it ain't so bad. Now I only need to get some *proper* records and listen to music. I'll see tomorrow as a NEW YEAR with good (musical) intentions.

I did have a rather okay weekend. I feel a bit better all in all.

I also had mashed potatos. :-D And I made chocolate ice cream!!!

nathalie, Monday, 25 June 2007 11:42 (eighteen years ago)

It was with a woman was the awful part! It's always women that attack me!

I was sitting at this table in the corner, drawing. I'm well known at the Windmill for doing this, most people are tolerant or even encouraging, including the staff. I've never had a problem doing it before. It was NOT busy, there was loads of room.

This extremely drunken girl came and stood in front of the table. She keeps jostling into my table, knocking it about. The guy she's with is all "hey, be careful, there's a girl drawing at that table, don't knock it about." She then sits down on my table. I'm a bit worried, but so long as she stays still, fair enough. No, she starts dancing about ON THE TABLE, knocking my drawing everywhere.

So I kinda said to her "look if you want to dance, stand up. I don't mind you sitting on my table, but if you're going to sit here, please keep still. I'm drawing."

She immediately starts having goes at me going all "what the fuck are you doing drawing at a gig, anyway? ugh, your art is so awful, what are you, 17? you shouldn't be drawing, this is a gig."

I told her "look, I WAS HERE FIRST, this is my table, if you want to dance, stand up" and she wouldn't. I kind of knocked the table to try and get her off. She starts shouting, I start shouting back. Finally, I just reach out and push her off my table.

She turns around and grabs me by the throat. I suppose I deserved it, as I started it getting physical by pushing her, but seriously. I tried to get someone else to call one of the bar staff to get her thrown out, but no one would do anything. Finally she lets go and starts telling the guy I'm asking for help all about how it's my fault for drawing in a bar.

If I wasn't afraid that she'd steal my sketchbook (she was that kind of a mentalist) and do something with it, I'd have gone off and got the manager or something. But at least she spent so much time complaining to the other people in the club about how I was drawing on the table she was trying to dance on that she left me alone.

She later came up and tried to apologise, but I was like "whatever". The girls she had been talking to turned out to be really nice, they talked to me for some time, asked to see my sketchbook and were very friendly.

I still have a bruise on my neck. :-(

It's my fault for reacting, but what am I supposed to do? Just let someone else's assholish behaviour ruin things?

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 11:53 (eighteen years ago)

Also, Nath, can't you get little speakers for your iPod? I've got a pair of speakers for my laptop, they were only about £25 and quite good. That way you can listen to music without having to put on headphones. Also, I bet O would like some of your music! Start her early!

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)

Project O=dEUS fan must begin.

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 12:26 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I have just done the Walk of Shame, taking my smelly lunch all the way through the entire office to eat it at the "breakout area" with a whole new section of people to be annoyed by the smell. Rather than eating it at my desk with no neighbours.

Also, the breakout area has no rubbish bins or kitchen, so I had to walk the empty dishes still smelling of smelly lunch all the way back the same way.

And our boiling water dispenser has broken on the first day. :-(

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 12:29 (eighteen years ago)

And, I had to walk past people in sales eating STINKY MEAT SAUSAGES at their desks. That's far more offensive.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 12:31 (eighteen years ago)

Sounds like the new office needs a rusk and a chew toy.

This one cup filter is bringing me so much joy (and envy)

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 12:38 (eighteen years ago)

Need one. Office coffee BRINGETH THE SUX0R.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 12:38 (eighteen years ago)

Monmouth coffee 6 pounds, (could have got a plastic one cheaper).

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 12:39 (eighteen years ago)

That's actually really close to me now. Tomorrow lunchtime I will get one. Maybe.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

It thought you were chancery lane, is there one there?

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 12:42 (eighteen years ago)

Actually she's more keen on Dizzee's new record. She also has this cheapo keyboard I bought in Tokyo. I'm convinced she's going to be this Noise chixor: she likes to put the mike up in her mouth and make these growly noises. She also likes to stand on the keyboard! From time to time she also likes to thump the keyboard like a real Japo Noise PhR34k. Yes, I'm terribly proud of her already. dEUS fan? One is already enough. ;-)

I have speakers but they are standing in the *Smoking Room* (my husband smokes).But I am optimistic: he's said again that he wants to quit. Whjich would mean that the smoking room will be useless. Hence: speakers moving back into living room. HURRAH. :-)

Also I bought some fabric to start sewing. I am developing a PH34R of that secondhand sewing machine I just bought. Just bought? Shit, it's been standing there for a couple of weeks. Time to tackle the machine and my fear. ;-)

Kate, tahnks for reminding me why I don't attend gigs anymore. Shit, what a crazy woman. :-(

nathalie, Monday, 25 June 2007 12:55 (eighteen years ago)

So my co-worker had another breakdown today. This one precipitated apparently by a) the fact that he only worked on Saturday and not Sunday to finish a project for today, even though he hadn't actually been given a deadline for it; and b) his wife (who lives on the other side of the country) calling to say that she wanted to quit her job immediately (note that this is same wife who has goaded him to leave this job, which pays infinitely more than he will ever make there).

What shocks me about this whole situation is how someone who really is too fucked up to work manages to hold onto his job with little apparent problem, whereas other people get all kind of grief for well, pretty standard fuck-ups.

mitya, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:06 (eighteen years ago)

Nath, move the speakers! Hah!

Sounds like O has a real thing for the keyboards! You should totally encourage her. It would be so cool if she grew up to be a future musician. Start 'em young!

I am Chancery Lane. Where is it? Haven't been out of the office yet.

Mitya, that sounds fucked. I don't think I entirely understand what's going on there. But the reason that some incredible fuckups manage to hold onto their job is, if they have told their HR that they have mental problems, it would incredibly difficult to sack them without all kinds of disability claims and the like.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:11 (eighteen years ago)

Monmouth coffee is closer to you old office. Are you thinking of Konditor and cook which is close and will be good for brain melting carrot cake?

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:13 (eighteen years ago)

I am not thinking of anything! I'm asking you to tell me where it is!

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:14 (eighteen years ago)

Monmouth St, Seven Dials, St Giles

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:17 (eighteen years ago)

Oh! I was conflating Monmouth St with Exmouth Market. It's the Mouth thing. Yes, that's further away now. :-(

I* will miss lunchtime jaunts to Rough Trade.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

I'm going to explode with fury, one of my arsehole colleagues (why do I always get dragged into debates) is claiming that depression is made up - he says that the medical profession only class it as an illness because they stand to make money out of it!

I am furious, absolutely seething. I disliked this guy in the first place and I don't even know why I'm wasting my energy fighting with him, but I feel I owe it to myself, my friends and aquaintances who suffer with depression and my good friend Robert (RIP) who was unable to 'get over it'.

Fucking motherfucking fuckdog.

*rumpie*, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:30 (eighteen years ago)

"made up". Oh, FFS... People who think that mental illness isn't real becuase they've never experienced anything like it.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

This is why I use headphones in the office. SO I don't have to listen to my colleagues.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

I wish I could :(

I'd like to ignore him but he keeps taking my silence as proof that I've run out of facts. I NEED to have the last word gah.

*rumpie*, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

You don't need to have the last word. If he is baiting you, and you don't respond YOU win. If he blows your cool, he wins. :-(

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

Write "you are a twat" on a post-it and stick it to his head.

onimo, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

You don't need to have the last word. If he is baiting you, and you don't respond YOU win

this is the hardest thing to do, TBH. I agree with you 100% that it's the right thing to do, but god is it hard.

Grandpont Genie, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

Just say "you don't know anything about it" and repeat ala Paxman.

Mark G, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

Keep a little scorecard on your desk and write down a point every time you don't respond to him.

If he asks you what you're doing, just tell him "THE LITTLE MEN IN MY HEAD ARE MAKING ME DO IT!!!" since clearly he won't challenge you, as there's no such thing as mental illness.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 13:53 (eighteen years ago)

Though I did go on a bit of a CD binge at Rough Trade on Friday, and picked up some more Reigns (all their stuff is really good, not just Styne Vallis) and some Grails and the first Brian Eno and Cluster album which is AMAZING.

Which Grails?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

Burning Off Impurities.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:04 (eighteen years ago)

Rumpie, just tell him something like you hope that he never has to experience first-hand just how wrong he is, and then refuse to be drawn into any more discussions. Win through passive-aggressive niceness!

I was just about to type 'morning all', then I realised how very wrong I was...

emil.y, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:12 (eighteen years ago)

He seems to have shut up (for the time being). I told him ignorance is obviously bliss and that's why he's been to blissed out to be depressed.

I wish had some sort of inbuilt controversy filter.

*rumpie*, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:26 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha, good comeback.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

tell him happiness is made up."just look at you! who could be really happy in your condition, ie twatiness!"

nathalie, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

just stab him in the face

g-kit, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:48 (eighteen years ago)

Burning Off Impurities.

Ahh the new one. Excellent choice.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:51 (eighteen years ago)

Kate, you should take a look in the Leather Lane age concern as they have dansette record player in excellent nick in there.

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

Argh, I bet it will be closed by the time I get out of work and I can't take another break. :-(

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

tomorrow lunch?

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

Man, Adam Ant recorded some BAD songs in his time.

I mean, yeah, there are a lot of classics. But when he was bad, he was VERY BAD.

x-post I hope it's still there!

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:54 (eighteen years ago)

Denizens of LL not indie enough to want a Dansette quick sharp.

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

Well, now that you've just announced it on THE INTERWEB!

I wish today would end. This new office lark has worn off. I'm bored again.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

Oh wait, did I tell you about this yet?

NOTLS are doing a MEDIEVAL BARBEQUE next month. They will have Morris Dancers and everything. (I've warned them they better not have female ones, or it will rain and the bees will fail.) Some folk, some prog. The wearing of costumes and especially CAPES is encouraged.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

I will almost certainly be in finland :-(

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, yeah, there are a lot of classics. But when he was bad, he was VERY BAD.

SAVE THE GORILLA

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

Assuming I can come, Are we allowed to bring sticks and/or possibly vikings?

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

It's the Windmill, I would imagine you can bring anything you like.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

which day is it?

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:08 (eighteen years ago)

The wearing of costumes and especially CAPES is encouraged.

Did you see my mini-series of cape photos on flickr? We were rather drunk, but I actually like them, which is odd as I am TEH unphotogenic (Craig took the pictures, though, and he's pretty good).

emil.y, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

I did, they are good capes.

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

Sunday July 22nd
Night of the Long Swords Presents at The Windmill Brixton
A MEDIEVAL SUNDAY BBQ
Horses Brawl - The Laughing Windows - Telling the Bees - Rosie Meres (dancer) - Richard Olson (The Eighteenth Day of May) + more tbc
5pm 'til late. £5. Free BBQ at 5pm

One of the lovely Sunday BBQs we know and love.

x-post yes, I left you a comment about how cool yr cape was!

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:10 (eighteen years ago)

Save the gorilla?

Apparently Marco prevented Adam from releasing this, but let him auction one disc of it for the Grrillz.

Which was nice. And after they'd have had to pay for unsold copies, probably meant they made more money for them that way!

Mark G, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:43 (eighteen years ago)

i saw some morris dancers yesterday. at a folk festival. someone mentioned them a bunch of posts ago.

g-kit, Monday, 25 June 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

Was it fun?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 25 June 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

Clean desk policy. Two words: SACK ME.

Then you'd be fucked. I don't understand why this place is going out of its way to make this an unpleasant place to work.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

Hello. I'm scared.

I just managed to make it from the office back to my parents' house - there were a couple of points where the flood-water on the road was only just passable in my car.

Hull is, effectively, cut off by the weather. Large parts of it are flooded; and quite a lot of Grimsby is flooded too. The river through Grimsby is on the verge of bursting its banks.

Forest Pines Mk2, Monday, 25 June 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

Blimey! That sounds crazy! Isn't this the time of year for hosepipe bans, not flooding?

Hull is a drained swamp with a canalised river through, so I imagine that would be crazy in a flood.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 16:55 (eighteen years ago)

Yep.

Just been on the phone to the gf - the road by her office has been closed since mid-morning. Someone tried to give her a lift home - they had to abandon the car a couple of miles from her house, and she waded from there; the water almost up to her waist. It's just below the front step of her ground-floor flat; she's OK, so long as it doesn't rise more than a couple of inches further.

My parents' village is partly flooded - the stream that runs alongside one of the main roads has burst its banks. We're OK though, until the drains fail. That's what's caused most of the floods, though.

Forest Pines Mk2, Monday, 25 June 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

I have found us an autoharpist!

OK, that means I have to go and buy a tuning key tomorrow. Yay, a trip to Hobgoblin.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 25 June 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

Can you pick me up a 30 nickel wound guitar string as I think I might have solved my g string problem

Ed, Monday, 25 June 2007 18:08 (eighteen years ago)

And now pictures of the flooding in Grimsby
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j28/ocelot67/stuff/400190607fu3.jpg

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 25 June 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

Morning. Not drowned yet.

Forest Pines Mk2, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 08:27 (eighteen years ago)

Still raining?

Ed, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 08:27 (eighteen years ago)

God, that all sounds so awful! Here it's raining a lot as well tho...

nathalie, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 08:33 (eighteen years ago)

i guess it was ok but i wasn't into it. just made me wonder why our trad. dancing is so rubbish in comparison to like... every other country.

g-kit, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 08:34 (eighteen years ago)

plus they seemed to have like zero enthusiasm

g-kit, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 08:35 (eighteen years ago)

It's stopped for now, but the clouds look pretty ominous.

Plenty of roads closed in Grimsby still - in one of the suburbs a river has burst its banks, and that estate's been evacuated.

Forest Pines Mk2, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 08:35 (eighteen years ago)

GMTV were asking for photos.

I was going to send in a photo of our street, dry and bathed in early morning sunshine with a caption "Haaaaa!!!! Unlucky!"

Got persuaded against.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 08:36 (eighteen years ago)

FP I am driving to Cleethorpes on Saturday. Is that area badly affected? Can I expect all the problems to be over by then?

onimo, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:30 (eighteen years ago)

British trad dancing is some of the best going.

Ed, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:36 (eighteen years ago)

It'll be fine by then, I imagine, Onimo. What the hell are you doing down here, though?

Forest Pines Mk2, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:37 (eighteen years ago)

Going to a holiday park with my family.

onimo, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:38 (eighteen years ago)

It's the 70s revival!

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:39 (eighteen years ago)

If it's Thorpe Park: that was evacuated last night. So you might want to get in touch with them, see how things are.

Forest Pines Mk2, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:40 (eighteen years ago)

oh that's just great :(

onimo, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:41 (eighteen years ago)

on a lighter note:
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070626/capt.baf28579cbe143beab9ccb41108127ea.aptopix_paris_hilton_ksd101.jpg

mitya, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:51 (eighteen years ago)

yuk

Ed, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:52 (eighteen years ago)

I liked Beth Ditto's "Paris is going to Jail" dance on Lauren Laverne's prog.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:55 (eighteen years ago)

Who's that?

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:58 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, Paris.

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 June 2007 09:58 (eighteen years ago)

on a lighter note

Well, she did lose a few pounds, no?

nathalie, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:00 (eighteen years ago)

Beth Ditto did a different dance? wows.

g-kit, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:00 (eighteen years ago)

It was a different dance, yes.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:00 (eighteen years ago)

I liked Beth Ditto's "Paris is going to Jail" dance on Lauren Laverne's prog.

I'm looking forward to The Lex's "Paris is out of jail" dance

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:02 (eighteen years ago)

Morning all. I'm getting hardly any work done this morning due to extreme office crushing - why does he have to be so cute?

leigh, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:26 (eighteen years ago)

Post sneaky stalkerish phone pics, leigh!

(NB: this may well be an extremely bad idea)

Forest Pines Mk2, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:27 (eighteen years ago)

Just ask him, "Can I take a photo of you to post on the internet?"

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:30 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think his girlfriend would be very pleased about that.

leigh, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:32 (eighteen years ago)

Plus it's quite possible that i've mentioned ilx to him in the dim and distant past.

leigh, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

he could be reading this now.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:07 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe, hello Mr x if you are...

leigh, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:21 (eighteen years ago)

What, you don't know his name?

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:21 (eighteen years ago)

that IS his name.

nathalie, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:24 (eighteen years ago)

Metro Mr X?

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:26 (eighteen years ago)

1st name Malcolm?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:26 (eighteen years ago)

No, exene.

nathalie, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:27 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, i'm really going to post his name on a public forum...

leigh, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 11:30 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.intuitivemusic.com/images/ClassicRockcover1.jpg

“Classic Rock magazine’s special issue out dealing with the wonderful world of prog is out this week. With features on the likes of Yes, Genesis, Rush, Tull, Floyd, and more there’s also a four page feature chronicling the making of the first King Crimson album with contributions from Ian McDonald and Peter Sinfield.”

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 12:37 (eighteen years ago)

And?

Tom D., Tuesday, 26 June 2007 12:38 (eighteen years ago)

I thought Norman might have it and say if it's worth buying or not.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 12:46 (eighteen years ago)

Of course if you have it i'll trust your judgement too :)

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 12:46 (eighteen years ago)

I read it as saying 'with contributions from Jerry Seinfeld' and was wondering exactly what he knew about prog rock.

Any 'cooler folks in Sheffield? I fell asleep listening to the radio and the last thing I heard was about a dam near there about to burst...

emil.y, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 12:51 (eighteen years ago)

I know a few people in Sheffield but not ilxors.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:03 (eighteen years ago)

morning. brane still not functioning. glastonbury amazing.

i might be going to glasgow on friday night. a) it looks like all trains going thru the norf are fuxored though. i hope i won't have to fly :( and b) anyone up there fancy brunch saturday am?

emsk, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

I will have brunch with you emsk, if you fly to moscow. (but i like bacon, so you probably wouldn't want to come.)

mitya, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

I thought it was all steak tartar eaten off tiger skin plates with ivory cutlery with supple virgins for tables and chairs in Moscow?

Ed, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 13:53 (eighteen years ago)

and top quality vodka?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder what kate's thoughts will be on the verve reforming.

I can guess.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

Ooh, Emsk, I will have brunch with you. Email me at my first name dot my last name at gmail.com !

ailsa, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

(or get my phone number off someone who has it? Andrew F, maybe?)

ailsa, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

Why are you coming to Glasgow?

ailsa, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 17:40 (eighteen years ago)

YAY ailsa! i am definitely coming to glasgow! i have booked tickets and everything. i am getting in at 7.45 unless all trains are delayed. i am going to see some indie bands at tut's on friday night and may be up for some drinking/dancing later, but will def be up for brunch on saturday. train back is at 12.45. YAY! i am trying glasgow more!

emsk, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 17:50 (eighteen years ago)

i'm going to see a band i'm working with but haven't seen yet, and another band someone else here is working with but it sounds like i may be later on. come if you like!

emsk, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

good you back on saturday, what is going on on saturday?

also, are you too boshed to drink a beer on your way home?

Ed, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

(ailsa i have forgotten your last name...)

yeah ed back saturday, into kx 6.45, up to tottenham to see indigo moss (and maybe pete molinari if i'm there in time), then i think down to a housepartay. what y'up to? sunday early show at lumi then indigo moss again at 93.

i am not too boshed to do anything but i am not going home... i'll be at work as late as i possibly can then i'm going to see jay jay pistolet at proud. want to come? i have +1. jay is really good, he's both sweet and rude.

emsk, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 17:55 (eighteen years ago)

hmm, have appointment at 21:30 so may decline that one

Ed, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 17:57 (eighteen years ago)

for tonight, otherwise saturday plans sound good unless I can techno with 696,but may reconnect for IM on Sunday as I want to see the rest of them, (also they are nice and convivial drinking companions)

Ed, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

yeah he's on at 9.30, tonight no use. sunday the gig is free too.

emsk, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

so like bring ppl. it's a secret garden party warmup doodah.

emsk, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 18:05 (eighteen years ago)

I shall endeavour

Ed, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

Emsk, surname is w4ts0n, but less googleproofed. You could use nu-ILX webmail thingie, I guess. Anyway, would be good to see you at some point. King Tuts downstairs bar is a very nice place to drink, and I may well be out somewhere nearby anyway.

Drinking/dancing on Friday is probably National Pop League, which is hot and sweaty and horrible. I am an old fart and do not go out anywhere else, so you may wish to ask other, less boring, Glaswegians.

ailsa, Tuesday, 26 June 2007 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

Morning.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 10:23 (eighteen years ago)

good morning

Ed, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 10:24 (eighteen years ago)

morning! yow yow yow
i am all sunny again (stupid, sweet noyfriend)
GLASGOW! ok let me know where you are on fri night ailsa and i'll let you know where i am...

emsk, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, so you zub-conciously distrust zee penis, very interestink </freud>

Ed, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 10:34 (eighteen years ago)

I've no idea what the classic rock is like, Kerr, I haven't bought it. It's only like 6 months since the last prog rock special? Probably just more blether about how great spock's beard and porcupine tree are (except they aren't)

Pashmina, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 10:53 (eighteen years ago)

ANYWAY!!!

City & Guilds 2330-203 appl;ication of health & safety & electrical prinicples PASS W/Distinction 90%

Pashmina, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 10:54 (eighteen years ago)

Congratulations.

I am having a good deal of fun with your phaser, especially setting really slow gentle sweeps. Can you recommend a good non sprung expression pedal?

Ed, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 10:55 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not sure, I never used it with an expression pedal - I THINK you need one that ouputs 0-5v dc, rather than one with a resistor in it, but you'd best check first. Most/nearly all expression pedals should be unsprung?

Pashmina, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 10:59 (eighteen years ago)

Well done, Pash!

Things are drying up a bit here.

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 12:05 (eighteen years ago)

So I should be ok for Bradley Bear's Musical Funtime?

onimo, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 12:18 (eighteen years ago)

Hopefully - I'd still call them and check if I were you

Forest Pines Mk2, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 12:22 (eighteen years ago)

angry mitya today. somehow between other people taking vacation, new people starting, my crazy colleague being a) unreliable and b) departing, and merger-related "activity," there is no space for me to take vacation at all!! i am so f@@@ing effed!!11! (this is on top of me being told i couldn't even travel over the long Russian holidays in January).

plus it was all done in a wonderfully passive-aggressive way, so i can't really complain about it, ie., my boss essentially told me two weeks (ie., june 15) ago that he'd prefer I take vacation in june (i.e., the following week). "Can't say we didn't give you the chance..." (ok, i don't think they're being that evil on purpose, just kind of thoughtlessly making it impossible for me).

mitya, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

Well done Norman!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 14:20 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone else afraid to click on the Harry Potter thread for fear that some nasty ILXor will spoil it for you?

mitya, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

No. But then I've never read the books or watched the films.

Boris tonight in Glasgow!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

Had a look. No spoilers. Just anticipation. The whole thing is closely guarded isn't it? Probably wont even be leaked before it comes out. (Unlike music)

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

Well, there was that big scandal a few years ago where the NY Post got a copy a few days before street date and printed a scans of a couple of (irrelevant) pages. Rowling/her publishers sued and got a big settlement. So you can imagine the retribution that would be coming on this one.

Quiet date on the internet today, it seems. Or I'm just not saying anything interesting...

Where's my pizza already, christ!

mitya, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:58 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah it's damn quiet today everywhere. Not just on ILX. I'm leaving soon to see Boris!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

FP can't get ILX to work from his own pc still. Anyone got any ideas? he can access it from his dads pc.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:06 (eighteen years ago)

Hey guys.

Sorry I've been offline for a few days, I caught a chill on Sunday while waiting for teh sodding rail replacement bus and came down with the death flu. :-(

I've also had horrible news about a very good friend of mine which has totally destroyed my faith in the world. Or at least the male half of it. :-(

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

I've got no voice and lost partial hearing in my one good ear. Getting really terrified about the gig on Friday.

But what does it matter, it's not like anyone will be there. Wah.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

Hello there. As Kerr mentioned my ILX-at-home problems:

I upgraded my PC to Gentoo 2.6.20 on Sunday, and there's been some change, somewhere, to the networking in the kernel. Ever since, I've not been able to access ILX on my PC. The ILX server tries to send pages to my PC, but the networking layer in the kernel drops its packets.

*But*, it only ever happens with ILX. Every other website I use has no problems at all.

Forest Pines Mk2, Thursday, 28 June 2007 07:45 (eighteen years ago)

(my next diagnostic step: build a vanilla Linux kernel, to see if the problem is with Linux or with the Gentoo Linux patchset)

Forest Pines Mk2, Thursday, 28 June 2007 07:47 (eighteen years ago)

I wish I knew what FP was on about hehe. lets hope he gets back on ILX at home soon anyway.

Boris was great. Flood was amazing. They played about nearly 90 mins and Flood was about 40 of them. Great stuff.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 28 June 2007 10:07 (eighteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6247870.stm

However, more rain is predicted.

There is expected to be rainfall of 15-25mm on Saturday, although some places could see 40-50mm.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 28 June 2007 10:27 (eighteen years ago)

Oh dear.

Forest Pines Mk2, Thursday, 28 June 2007 10:33 (eighteen years ago)

Indeed. Get some sandbags!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 28 June 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

Just round the corner from my gf's flat:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42424000/jpg/_42424510_garage_hull_pa_416.jpg

Forest Pines Mk2, Thursday, 28 June 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)

(I think - garages are hard to recognise)

Forest Pines Mk2, Thursday, 28 June 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)

christ that's crazy

mitya, Thursday, 28 June 2007 10:52 (eighteen years ago)

We're just not used to rain in Britain

Tom D., Thursday, 28 June 2007 10:53 (eighteen years ago)

kinell.

However, my desk will soon look like that if my nose doesn't stop running. At least I've stopped running a fever, but alas no more hallucinations.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 28 June 2007 11:25 (eighteen years ago)

Kate/Ed do you have this?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 28 June 2007 12:01 (eighteen years ago)

you'd think they'd lower their prices a bit, no?

g-kit, Thursday, 28 June 2007 12:03 (eighteen years ago)

The petrol station or rise above?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 28 June 2007 12:08 (eighteen years ago)

The Litmus album? yes, I have a promo copy.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 28 June 2007 12:09 (eighteen years ago)

Any good?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 28 June 2007 12:09 (eighteen years ago)

petrol station

g-kit, Thursday, 28 June 2007 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, very good. A more metal version of Hawkwind. The 80s metal production bothers me in places, but you like metal, so you'll probably like it.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 28 June 2007 12:20 (eighteen years ago)

People should take the opportunity to fill up their motor boats direct from the pump tbh. Once in a lifetime opportunity rite?

g-kit, Thursday, 28 June 2007 12:23 (eighteen years ago)

omgz even the queen is shocked.

emsk, Thursday, 28 June 2007 12:46 (eighteen years ago)

i am gonna be trapped in scotlands on saturday innit

emsk, Thursday, 28 June 2007 12:54 (eighteen years ago)

Should be OK if you stick to the WCML.

Ed, Thursday, 28 June 2007 12:55 (eighteen years ago)

You can jet-ski back to London.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 28 June 2007 13:01 (eighteen years ago)

wouldn't really mind being trapped in scotlands, never get to spend enough time there anyway.

emsk, Thursday, 28 June 2007 13:05 (eighteen years ago)

You could watch loads of crappy scottish bands!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 28 June 2007 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, very good. A more metal version of Hawkwind. The 80s metal production bothers me in places, but you like metal, so you'll probably like it.

I hate 80s metal though!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 28 June 2007 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

It sounds like a load of other crap you love and I can't be bothered with, tho. :-P

Whoa, a concrete staircase just floated up outside the window. What the bejeezus?

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 28 June 2007 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

Sorry, have I mentioned it here?

The "Krautrock Kenickie". This makes me laff so hard.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 28 June 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

Is there a concrete body in it?

I can't find the litmus on the usual channels so i guess i need cookies..

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 28 June 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I'll bring it tomorrow.

There is a building site next door, odd things go sailing up past our windows.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 28 June 2007 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

Emsk, Scotland is not flooded, so you are more than welcome to stay here if you can't get back home through floods. Are you sure your train is going to get you here without having to turn into a James-Bond-style jetski-train or something?

ailsa, Thursday, 28 June 2007 18:52 (eighteen years ago)

yay :)

ed is correct when he says west coast mainline should be ok, and that is how i'm coming up tomorrow.

i am meant to be going back on sat on the east coast line though, which i like more because it goes past the sea and angel of the north and for some reason i find something comforting about gner but which also goes through the part of england that is entirely underwater.

maybe i will get trapped in the northeasts

i have a saver return ticket

i can use this on any train, i think, except like before 10am and whatever, which isn't going to happen anyway

emsk, Thursday, 28 June 2007 19:25 (eighteen years ago)

I like the East Coast Line too. Looking out over deserted beaches, Berwick and its swans.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:14 (eighteen years ago)

I finally got round to playing that Kraftwerk "Bremen" boot.

"Heavy Metal Kids" !!!

Mark G, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:18 (eighteen years ago)

It's great, isn't it?

mitya, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:45 (eighteen years ago)

It is, actually, yeah. The first album was my favourite, and it's bizarre hearing the crowd chanting "KrafT! WekK!" between tracks. Like they were "Slayer" or something.

Mark G, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:58 (eighteen years ago)

I need to get hold of this.

Ed, Friday, 29 June 2007 10:59 (eighteen years ago)

I have it somewhere. It's quite a headfuck when it comes on after komentenmelodie or whatever the song just before it is in my iTunes.

I am still ill. And got caught in that crazy 10 minute cloudburst.

And I am now officially at war with my neighbours. Today the fuckers took the full rubbish bins and just stuck them outside the front door to my upstairs neighbour's flat, blocking the way out of the house - AND LEFT THE GATE TO THE COURTYARD OPEN.

It is not our rubbish day. Our rubbish day is Tuesday. Not that they've ever bothered to find out when it was, or once put the rubbish out.

And leaving the gate open when someone in the building was only just burgaled less than a month ago? Fuckers! Then again, its' them that leave their crap all over the courtyard, so it's them that would be robbed. I hate them. Always smoking outside my windows. Leaving cigarette butts everywhere. Knocking my plants over and not picking them up. I HATE THEM.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 29 June 2007 11:40 (eighteen years ago)

Not to mention that there are currently FIVE adults and a baby living in the flat. That's got to be illegal.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 29 June 2007 11:41 (eighteen years ago)

God, you people always stop talking when I show up.

It's OK, I'm going away again now. :-(

Masonic Boom, Friday, 29 June 2007 11:49 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe they're away letting all their hippy commune buddies know they're breaking the law.

onimo, Friday, 29 June 2007 12:01 (eighteen years ago)

It's my day off, why am I at work anyway?

Oh yeah, unlimited interweb access.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

Why must work be so busy right now?

Ed, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

Mine is really slow. It's just before monthend. The calm before the storm.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 29 June 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

Hey all.
So FOPP has officially gone

Kate I found the Litmus album, if it's good i'll order from rise above along with that Winters album.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

See, if only you'd bought a CD or two from Fopp last time you were in Glasgow...

Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

It is thought the stores are closed temporarily and some may be re-opened once the administrator has examined the books.

So, who knows (as yet)

Mark G, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

Man, I wish I'd got to Fopp earlier the other day. :-(

Masonic Boom, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

You might have saved them!

Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

If only more people were like dada and bought lots of new music!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

The Brigadier Killed Fopp, I saw him.

Ed, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

You jammy Londoners
FRIDAY 13th July - OM play the Underworld - £12.50 advance

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

I think I'm going to see the Clorox Girls that night.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

OM?

Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, OM!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

Are you missing at T?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

I'd prefer it if Underworld were playing the OM, but hey.

Mark G, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

There'll be queues round the block for that one

Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

Om rule

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

Om Sweet Om

Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

Both Om albums are on Kate's dvds. Maybe she will send you cookies.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

Or not.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

"Heavy rock" is it?

Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

I don't actually remember what they are like. ;-)

Oh, it's 4. I want to leave work. Except where would I go, since Ed isn't going to be home? THis is not a good 'hood for shopping. :-(

Though I suppose I could go to the Age Concern on Leather Lane and see if they still have that Dansette!

Masonic Boom, Friday, 29 June 2007 14:56 (eighteen years ago)

It's just a bass player and a drummer playing lengthy drone rock pieces.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 29 June 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

Not Japanese I hope

Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

No, American. They used to be in Sleep

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 29 June 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

Om did a split 7" with Current 93.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 29 June 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

You're not selling them to me here

Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

Cookies on way anyway.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 29 June 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

Hooray!

Tom D., Friday, 29 June 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)

I've just realised what's wrong with my life, while taking a MySpazz quiz. I'VE GOT NO CRUSHES ON!!!

LIFE IS MEANINGLESS AND FLAT WITHOUT CRUSHES!!!

Argh! What am I going to do? Revive an old one?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 29 June 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

Will be about 55 mins
x-post

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 29 June 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

BRING ME CRUSHES!!! I DEMAND IT!!!

http://www.polarblairsden.com/superherowonderwomans1ep0512.jpg

Masonic Boom, Friday, 29 June 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

Aw, I should get out of here.

And I just saw the head of finance give me a LOOK when I said that. Lady, I came in on my DAY OFF to get stuff in order for monthend because I was behind. Don't you look at me like I'm skivving.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 29 June 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

20 mins til Om cookies.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 29 June 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone still here? Check emails etc

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 29 June 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

Lovely evening with Emsk yesterday - OMG THE WORLD IS SO SMALL! Seriously, we know so many of the same people, completely independently of each other. WEIRDNESS!!

ailsa, Saturday, 30 June 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

I noticed that Hull's Music Zone was closed today - I didn't realise Music Zone were owned by Fopp.

Forest Pines Mk2, Saturday, 30 June 2007 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

Aye, that was the start of it all going wrong. ILM thread is pretty informative.

ailsa, Saturday, 30 June 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

Are you still underwater down there? Is Onimo going to be paddling round his holiday park?

ailsa, Saturday, 30 June 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

He should be fine, I think. One road is still closed in Hull, apparently because floodwater undermined it - it's definitely not flooded - but Cleethorpes is OK.

Forest Pines Mk2, Saturday, 30 June 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

greetings all

mitya, Monday, 2 July 2007 09:20 (eighteen years ago)

Morning all. I'm in a bad mood as office crush boy is on his hols this week then i'm on leave next week to take care of my mum and her new hip.

leigh, Monday, 2 July 2007 09:31 (eighteen years ago)

morning!

boo that sux. offices need crushboy scenery.

emsk, Monday, 2 July 2007 09:40 (eighteen years ago)

Morning.

Forest Pines Mk2, Monday, 2 July 2007 10:24 (eighteen years ago)

(is crushgirl scenery an appropriate alternative?)

Forest Pines Mk2, Monday, 2 July 2007 10:24 (eighteen years ago)

yes.

emsk, Monday, 2 July 2007 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

On the upside crushboy will be tanned and even more gorgeous on his return.

leigh, Monday, 2 July 2007 11:35 (eighteen years ago)

btw has anyone heard this band the grams? i am seeing their name all over the place and wondering if they've made themselves in the image of the band from 'powder'...

emsk, Monday, 2 July 2007 12:25 (eighteen years ago)

Did they support "Grotesque" one time?

Mark G, Monday, 2 July 2007 13:21 (eighteen years ago)

Morning.

Everything's gone a bit shit here and it's not even monthend. I'm just unspeakably down. Started out reading this book on Saturday and it really unsettled and upset me and I've no idea why. Had a lovely day yesterday with a good friend who's been going through a horrible breakup, and though we had a nice time, it's still all really awful. It's really kind of shaken my faith in the human race, and re-opened all kinds of questions I thought were closed.

A lot of real existential type crap. I hate.

And to make everything worse, I got coffee and carrot cake at the local deli and both are rubbish. :-(

Masonic Boom, Monday, 2 July 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

Book, my fault, sorry.

I wish this miserable weather would end, although yesterday afternoon was nice enough.

Ed, Monday, 2 July 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

I think it was in the post before the book. I'm still trying to work out why it upset me so much. It wasn't just the unrelenting grimness.

At least the rain keeps my awful neighbours in the house, or at least down their end of the courtyard. But we managed to get in a good walk yesterday afternoon, at least.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 2 July 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

I was hopelessly optimistic this morning as the sun was out and decided that i didn't need to carry my brolly or wear a jacket. Needless to say it's pissing down now and chilly. I do have a cagoule in my desk but it's too small and doesn't zip up - guess it's better than nothing.

leigh, Monday, 2 July 2007 13:52 (eighteen years ago)

I took a jacket and an umbrella. So it is sunny.

It's all kind of pointless anyway. :-(

Masonic Boom, Monday, 2 July 2007 13:55 (eighteen years ago)

What was the book?

My top tip: stare at astro cat for a while. He will sing to you the symphony of space.

emil.y, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

The book was Beyond Black by Hilary Mantel. It was kind of a silly book, and it probably wasn't even what tipped me over. I was starting to get the existential angsts last week anyway.

I think this is beyond astrocat right now. :-( What I could do with is, you know... the point.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

I'm keeping myself going/torturing myself visualising office crush boy sunning himself on a balkan beach.

leigh, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

I don't even have a crush any more. What would be the point? It would only fall horribly flat, and become depressing and remind me of my own failings again and again.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

Oh Dear. Crushboy was essentially my work husband but since i quit smoking our paths hardly cross, i really miss it.

leigh, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:19 (eighteen years ago)

no idea what astrocat is but it sounds awesome

g-kit, Monday, 2 July 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)

like a cat in space or something.

g-kit, Monday, 2 July 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

Kate, sweetie, you need a big ole HUGGELZ. You probably hate the word, but I hope you like the gesture. :-)

Things are going okay. Feeling extremely tired and hence don't feel like working. I want to (work) but can't seem to drag my *phat*arse from the comp. bah! Went to sleep "early" (eleven-ish) but Ophelia woke up at around 5:20 AM! Let her in her bed for about half an hour. She didn't really cry, just moaned a bit. DH is gone to the doc with her. We thght it was the urinary infection again, but the doc says it's IMPOSSIBILE (she's Italian! But speaks fluent Dutch with a cute accent.). She thinks it's just *something* (like a cold)brewing.

I also went to buy some Pooh Potty. Potty training will commence shortly. WAH!

I'm reading Gender Trouble. Amazingly dense but still better than reading Dan Brown, no? :-)

nathalie, Monday, 2 July 2007 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

Crankiness count today:

-bloody neighbours left the gate open again. Do they WANT us to get robbed? I hate them.

-traffic lights out in front of the train station. It's the A23, no one bloody stops. I had to fix the next car with a steely gaze, stick my hand out authoratatively and stride across, hoping they wouldn't be bloody minded enough to hit me.

-fucker lit up a cigarette on the platform, despite all the NO SMOKING signs all over the place, the constant announcements about it being a non smoking platform. I shouted at him to put it out with the steely death glare. He gets all "why are you shouting at me, I didn't know!" - what, you think the announcements and the posters DON'T APPLY TO YOU?!?!?

-the fucking loo has only those awful towel roller things, impossible to actually wash your face and dry it properly.

GOD I HATE MY FUCKING LIFE. I'VE BECOME ONE OF THOSE HORRIBLE BITTER OLD LADIES THAT SHOUTS AT PEOPLE.

Everything is shit. :-(

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 10:28 (eighteen years ago)

"rock and roll stops the traffic"

I always think that when I have to stop cars with a steely gaze or extended hand.

For those of us who don't own our homes, it's easy to not realize how important your neighbhors suddenly are once the place is *yours*.

hi k8

mitya, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 10:33 (eighteen years ago)

That is a pain in the arse. Can you get the freeholder to install a closer on the gate? (alternatively you could just get one and install one)

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 10:35 (eighteen years ago)

oh come now, you're being hard on yourself. none of these things are your fault. try to greet each instance of someone else's idiocy with a smile in yr eyes and a song in yr hart (ppl do this for me all the time, bless them).
i'm giving up smoking btw, so i'll be with you all the way come lunchtime. rar? xp

g-kit, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 10:35 (eighteen years ago)

Hi, Mitya.

The problem is when you have a mix of renters and owners living in the same house/block. Renters just don't care. Owners *have* to care. So it feels like you have a gang of freeloaders living in your space when they don't do fundamental homecare things like, you know, put the rubbish out and CLOSE THE GATE.

Seriously, considering that our upstairs neighbours were just burgled a month ago, for gods sake, be careful! We have a fairly private courtyard which means in summer we can do things like leave windows and door ajar. Can't do that if some FREAKING IDIOT leaves the gate wide open and unlocked. Especially considering that my flat is the first any robbers would come to.

I mean, there are STILL fucking five of them living in that 2-room flat, you'd think at least one of them would have the sense to close the door behind them.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sorry, I'm in too bad a mood, and hating the universe to see minor annoyances as anything other than proof the universe hates me back. :-(

Good luck with quitting smoking, g-kit, I'm 100% behind you. Two of my friends who were crazy smokers tried zyban, and haven't smoked since, apparently it's The Thing.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 10:40 (eighteen years ago)

The Thing, aaaargh!

g-kit, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)

Who knew the world of gate closers was so diverse. You need a Dictator Direct GGC2000.

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 10:45 (eighteen years ago)

People who rent get burgled too

Tom D., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 10:48 (eighteen years ago)

Ack! Dozed off at my desk just seconds (I think) before the boss came around :(

mitya, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 10:52 (eighteen years ago)

Ha, Mitya -- I've done this twice, but not recently and not in full view of the boss. The second time it happened my colleague Keira yelled "wake up sleepyhead!" and sent me a picture from http://www.sleepychinchilla.com

http://homepage.mac.com/benjones/sleepychinchilla/images/sleepygallery/1.jpg

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 10:56 (eighteen years ago)

They've entirely filled up one bin, and started dumping their garbage in the other bin. We shall see if anyone puts the rubbish out by the time I get home tonight. Then again, usually the other homepwner beats me to it. (I know it's her doing it, because when she goes away, no one else does it. Yes, including me last week, but I was so ill last Tuesday I didn't actually leave the flat, in fact I barely left the bed, only to haul myself to the sofa.)

I know, I know, it's not becuase they're renters, it's just coz they're generally rubbish. I hate them. It's easier to find a completely ridiculous focus for your general hatred of the world than to just collapse into realising that it's every single part of your life that is rubbish and awful and hateable.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 10:59 (eighteen years ago)

THE THING.
http://www.biffjuggernaut.com/lovecrackedthemovie/lovecrackedgallery2/images/The%20Thing.jpg

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:03 (eighteen years ago)

The Thing looks awfully like a Member of SunnO))))

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:05 (eighteen years ago)

*shudder*

I had squatters opposite me until recently. I didn't know they were squatters until I came home one day and found a big fuckoff grey metal battleship grey Fort Knox style door in front of their real front door to stop them getting back in. Now that's the first thing I see when I open my front door each morning. Great.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:06 (eighteen years ago)

Squatters seems such a 70s thang

Tom D., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:06 (eighteen years ago)

or 80s

Tom D., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:07 (eighteen years ago)

People still squat. In Lewisham. Apparently it's the done thing. (Sorry, this is a long standing joke that I don't feel like explaining.)

At least last night I dreamed about the Jesus and Mary Chain. They were playing this weird festival thing in a park (with Victorian iron railings in front of the stage) with Marilyn Manson. (?) Kaliflwr got me backstage somehow, and I got conscripted as a roadie because for some reason I had all my gear with me. Except people kept moving and dismantling my gear. Grrr. So I nicked the instruction manual to Kevin Shields pedalboard (I have no idea why he was playing with them - though it was kind of half JAMC, and half Primal Scream.) And I was pissed off becuase people were treating me like I was in teh way when I was just trying to do my job, like they didn't want me to participate.

Jim was wearing a paisley waistcoat and was fucking about with pedals, making this great racket, so Wiliam got angry and stormed offstage and ended up talking with me, and was going all "argh, this is all shite grrr" and I told him, no, it's not shite, it means a lot to me, and telling him about how their first album changed my life. So he got in a better mood and was all "let's go see what's in the buffet" and we ate loads of green cheese and laughed at Marilyn Manson, standing in front of the stage in a stupid striped suit so he looked like a clown.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:13 (eighteen years ago)

I think I'd rather have squatters than buy-to-letters. Squatters actually have more of an incentive of keeping a place livable, becuase if they do it for long enough, they get to keep it.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:18 (eighteen years ago)

There are tons of squatters along the North Circular, although some of the houses have been torn down recently.

Our front garden seems to be attract litter at an alarming rate. I don't know why ours gets it so much more than any of our neighbours, unless it's on some freak windstream or something. It's always empty carrier bags.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:19 (eighteen years ago)

I might try it. I've got to find somewhere to live by the end of the month.

Tom D., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:19 (eighteen years ago)

I was always intrigued going to work along the North Circ on the bus, but I think I'd have a hard time convincing the wife to give it a try! A lot of them are in pretty bad state though, and every so often one gets bricked up.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:22 (eighteen years ago)

Argh, flat-hunting is the pursuit of the damned. :-(

At least I don't have a front garden for the fuckers to throw things in. I know they'd try it, I get enough crap ending up in front of my windows on the pavement. :-(

I am noticing the cigarette butts more since the smoking ban. This is one of my biggest reasons for hating smokers (oh you know, apart from teh smell and the cough0inducing smoke haze) is that they are such LITTERERS.

(Anyone who knows me know that's one of my weird quirks, I hate litter so much, I think littering should be punnishable by hanging or chopping the hands off or something. And smokers somehow thing that their ash and their droppings and butts and their non-biodegradable-made-of-glass-last-for-a-thousand-years filtres somehow just aren't litter.)

ARGH, I AM IN A MOUTH-FROTHING FURY TODAY.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:25 (eighteen years ago)

Argh, flat-hunting is the pursuit of the damned. :-(

Tell me about it. I've never done it in London before.

Tom D., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:27 (eighteen years ago)

Where are you looking?

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:28 (eighteen years ago)

You mean areas?

Tom D., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:29 (eighteen years ago)

AND EVERYONE'S ALLOWED TO EAT THEIR DISGUSTING MEATY YUCK SANDWICHES AROUND MY DESK, WHY AM I NOT ALLOWED TO EAT MY LUNCH HERE?!?!?

These thigns were sent to try us.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:29 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, areas

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:30 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha, they said "area".

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:31 (eighteen years ago)

Urgh, I burned my finger a bit. Why oh why does it have to hurt so much? It's just a small burn yet so painful. :-(

nathalie, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:33 (eighteen years ago)

Prob'ly Stokey/Dalston - that sort of thing. I'm bored of Tuffers now. (xxxp)

Tom D., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:34 (eighteen years ago)

But beggars can't be choosers!

Tom D., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:34 (eighteen years ago)

Small burns are the worst. Because you cook yourself, and the flesh blisters. It's something about the size of the blister and the surface area or something.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:34 (eighteen years ago)

I know. At least the lunch (courgette/toasted flaked almonds/cheese/olive oil pasta) was extremely yummy. I keep staring at my finger as though it's a pink elephant that will disappear.

nathalie, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:36 (eighteen years ago)

Never stare at a pink elephant! they won't disappear, they'll just START TO DANCE and then you are in trouble.

http://www.apollopony.net/images/sunra_pink_elephants.jpg

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:38 (eighteen years ago)

Urgh, I burned my finger a bit. Why oh why does it have to hurt so much? It's just a small burn yet so painful. :-(

Good job you're not an Islamic extremist

Tom D., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:39 (eighteen years ago)

I was looking for pink elephants, and found this. Really beautiful!

http://www.tinyshowcase.com/images/display/yasonet/670.jpg

Too bad the print run is sold out or I'd have one for my living room.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:39 (eighteen years ago)

Wow!

http://www.tinyshowcase.com/

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:41 (eighteen years ago)

Not staring at a pink elephant is as hard as not thinking about purple rhinoceroses.

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:41 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, the database was 2 years old yesterday and no one noticed. I just realised as I started the monthend recconcilliation.

It also means I've been here two years, but no one noticed that, either.

:-(
I need an elephant for my office.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:44 (eighteen years ago)

You can have mine. *YSI* ;-)

nathalie, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:45 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe the box of elephants I got in Paris would be good for that. It's a box with an elephant. My brother asked "what's in the box?" I said "ANOTHER ELEPHANT - and guess what's in that box?" My brother: "I don't know" Kate: "Another elephant! and guess what's in that box?" My brother: "I get the idea." Kate: "Another elephant! And guess what's in that box?" My brother: "ARGH, STOP!" Kate: "ELEPHANTS!!!!"

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:47 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder how much it costs to get screen prints done. I want screen prints of my elephants. Maybe that's what my project should be.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:47 (eighteen years ago)

My project? Sewing. That second hand machine I bought is the "elephant in the middle of the room" now. :-(

nathalie, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:48 (eighteen years ago)

posting madness today - sometimes it's so quiet and other times...

post-breakdown, my colleague is "enjoying" his therapy sessions so much that he now feels the need to come spend 30 minutes telling me about the previous hour. argh.

(also, i feel terrible because mostly i'm just thinking "you fucker, your stupid crisis is the reason i'm not getting any vacation." i mean, i didn't even like this guy when he was seeming on the straight)

mitya, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:54 (eighteen years ago)

I just found two grey hairs when i was brushing my hair at lunchtime - trying like mad to resist the temptation to pull them out.

leigh, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:57 (eighteen years ago)

You know, there's a REASON that therapy takes place in private. STFU about it, stupid colleague.

Don't pull out your grey hairs. I did, and then EVEN MORE GREW BACK!!!

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:58 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

(that really *is* a nice print - reminds me of the cover of the latest Tim Finn album)

mitya, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 11:59 (eighteen years ago)

Tell him there's a reason he's PAYING for the therapy sessions. That should shut him up. ;-)

nathalie, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:01 (eighteen years ago)

It's also very much in the style of the wallpaper that my sister-in-law wanted to get for her nursery. THey're going to have a hot air balloon theme, which I think is great. She's quite keen that it should be gender neutral.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:01 (eighteen years ago)

Good lord, I had to go to a bloody free download site to get one of my own songs! But I really wanted to hear "Elephants".

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:08 (eighteen years ago)

He's not even paying $40/hour - he probably barely notices.

mitya, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:09 (eighteen years ago)

Well, tell him to quit paying to see how much his therapist will isten to him. Or better, charge him 20 dollars!

nathalie, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

IN RUSSIA, THERAPY LISTENS TO YOU!!!

Oh wait...

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:11 (eighteen years ago)

Telling him that our boss yesterday asked me to check all his work because he was concerned that his mental condition was affecting his output would probably be more effective. :(

mitya, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:12 (eighteen years ago)

semi apropos of nothing, I am still unconvinced about the grebtness of system psychology. Eh, I looked it up on zee net and it gives me shit results. Maybe I invented this? Or would you call it behavioral psychology? (It basically teahces you to change your behavior to make yourself happy. Very simplistic explanation.)

nathalie, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:33 (eighteen years ago)

Cognitive therapy? Loada bollix, if you ask me

Tom D., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:34 (eighteen years ago)

Cognitive therapy = CBT? That was one of the more effective ones for me. Except the therapist who was doing it screwed up all the good work by reinforcing my own worst conditioning. :-(

I suppose it's good for me to get away from my desk for lunch, but it's fucking depressing to go to the lunchroom and be the only person at my table in a room full of full tables. Like freaking high school again. Except in high school, actually all the other loners started coming and sitting at my table. Until there was no space left for me. :-((((

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:44 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, that festival I was gonna go to? You have to pay for your tickets randomly - via paypal - and then "they will contact you".

This just sounds dodgier and dodgier.

1) I can't do paypal. I've never been able to get it to work.

2) I don't like buying things without receipts and confirmations and all that.

Sod this.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:48 (eighteen years ago)

I don't use Paypal either. It is v annoying and occasionally I get emails purporting to be from Paypal asking me to update my details which I instantly delete.

Grandpont Genie, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 12:55 (eighteen years ago)

Well, I was feeling more and more "of two minds" about this festival, so it's a good excuse not to have to go.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:02 (eighteen years ago)

I suppose lunch is now over and I better get back to work. :-(

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:05 (eighteen years ago)

If I didn't have Paypal, I'd probably be rich because I wouldn't be able to support my Ebay addiction.

I get those emails pretending to be from Paypal/Ebay as well but they all go in my junk folder. It's usually screamingly obvious it's a fake as well, spelling mistakes all over it etc. I got one just now for Co-Operative Bank.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:09 (eighteen years ago)

I just ignore ALL mail from eBay or Paypal as I know that I've not got an account for either. I'd be paranoid about them if I really had accounts.

Argh, I need happy fun dance music for after lunch, and I don't think I have any with me.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:12 (eighteen years ago)

The weird URL click throughs are a give away anyway.

However the biggest give away is that they are asking for details in emails which the real things never do.

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:13 (eighteen years ago)

fucking reflux. also forgot my anti-reflux bottle at home. :-(

nathalie, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

how to show screenprinting

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:45 (eighteen years ago)

damnit shot

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:45 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not sure that would work with patterns as complex as mine. :-(

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

Actually, I've had this problem with screen printing before. Unless it's done as a purely photographic process, my bits are too fiddly. (fnar.)

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

It think your work would linocut/woodcut really well

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

There's got to be a way to duplicate the colour washes of screen printing with gradients in Photoshop... I'm sure it would make lovely prints, but I don't have the patience for it! I've tried doing linocut before and it takes too long.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

could you scan in a colour wash and use the artwork as a mask?

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

You can just do colour washes in photoshop!

The problem with those really acidic screen prints is that my artwork has too many black lines - however, I suppose I could make a separate layer for black and white and colour wash each of them separately.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:53 (eighteen years ago)

I sure you can but by doing the wash analogue, surely you will get some interesting imperfections

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:58 (eighteen years ago)

ARGH, NO, THE WHOLE POINT OF DIGITAL IS NOT HAVING TO DEAL WITH IMPERFECTIONS ANY MORE!!!

Like I can fix my bad spelling and jittery hand in scans and stuff.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 13:59 (eighteen years ago)

Oh dear, something really weird is coming out of my scar. I think the missing stitch may be turning up. Where is the first aid kit? I think I need some tweezers and a bandage.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:25 (eighteen years ago)

hooray, the missing box going to finland has turned up, unfortunately it has turned up here in London, which is not so good.

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

FIRST AID_KIT RITE

g-kit, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

I just hope you have tweezers!

Yes, the missing stitch is making a run for it. Ugh! We have no tweezers, so I had to put a bandage over it and wait until I get home. I'm not even sure I have tweezers at home. I can't pull it with my fingernails, because the stitch breaks, and I don't want to leave any of it in there!

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

arr, i don't have tweezers

g-kit, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)

Hello all. Supersonic Festival 2007 looks really good. Esp the Arches stage on saturday.
Don't suppose anyones going? I doubt it would be emsk's thing.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

Happy happy joy joy. Happy 3rd.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:11 (eighteen years ago)

To be honest, I'd be much more interested in the talks than the music! (that's not a reflection on the music.)

the 3rd, Ned? Wrong day, surely?

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

If it's a weekend in july, which i9t is I am likely to be in finland

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

I thought the talks might interest you actually.
x-post

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

the 3rd, Ned? Wrong day, surely?

It's so dead here it might as well be a holiday.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

Flickr is telling me I need to eat Munkki ion Tampere.

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:17 (eighteen years ago)

And do you always obey random websites?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:19 (eighteen years ago)

when they are telling me to eat things of a doughnutty nature I will obey.

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

Did anyone get the Om cookies?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

Aregh, my wrist is itching so badly I don't think it is stiches coming out, but WORMS.

Finnish donuts? Want!

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

maybe it is an elephant leaving trunk first.

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:27 (eighteen years ago)

here is a finn frying Munkki

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:28 (eighteen years ago)

there are always a good 2 or 3 hours in the day when you guys seem to start talking in code. WHY.

g-kit, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

Now I've got "monchi-chi, mon-chi-chi, oh so soft and cuddly" stuck in my head.

Only Finns would call doughnuts monkeys.

Then again, maybe that's what the JAMC album of the same name is really about - DONUTS.

Argh, I hope it is not an elephant, I have quite enough of those, thank you.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

you're doing it on purpose ;_;

g-kit, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

Thinks to do in Tampere:

Eat Munkki
Sauna
Swim in lake
Eat obligatory post sauna sausage
Sit in sun
drink beer

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

Also maybe do some work.

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:45 (eighteen years ago)

Isn't it new month new thread time?

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

There's not 1000 messages yet.

Ha ha, as of this moment, there are 666 hidden messages, but I'm going to ruin all that by posting this. :-(

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

If I were in Tampere I would go looking for Tampere SS records, but I'm not sure if anyone else here is into Finnish Discharge clones.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

Argh, this month I have £3400 too much. I wish I got to keep this money! But it isn't real.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

I'll take it.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

Here you go, have it.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

Dude, it's still not gone! Why haven't you taken it?

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

I remember the days Kate would give the money to benjamin to get naked while she drew him.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.nndb.com/people/073/000039953/benjamin-sm.jpg

Tom D., Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

Special edition for tomorrow:

http://www.michaeldeas.com/Mike%20Deas%20Website/site_images/Ben_Franklin_510.jpg

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

Benjamin plays us some spacerock:

http://www.gigmasters.com/armonica/benfranklin.JPG

(but not too much, as that instrument has been known to DRIVE PEOPLE MAD!!!)

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

What instrument would drive people sane?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:24 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone going to Portishead ATP?
BORIS »
OM »
PORTISHEAD »
APHEX TWIN »
JULIAN COPE »
SPARKLEHORSE »
ONEIDA »
BLACK MOUNTAIN »
CRIPPLED BLACK PHOENIX »
FUZZ AGAINST JUNK »
SEASICK STEVE »
TEAM BRICK »
EARTH »
A HAWK AND A HACKSAW »
KLING KLANG »
LADYTRON »
THURSTON MOORE (SOLO) »

What a line up!

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not sure I can afford it, but I might try and go, it's not quite as great for me as the last Xmas one was though. I missed Boris play this month.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

FP doesn't like the line up.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

I must be getting old.

Forest Pines Mk2, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 19:04 (eighteen years ago)

Boris, Om, Earth, Portishead, Oneida and Aphex Twin and you're not excited?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 19:07 (eighteen years ago)

The reason I am getting old: I have never heard of most of the bands in the line-up!

Forest Pines Mk2, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

A lot of those bands are old though!

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

Hmmm. You have a point, I guess

Forest Pines Mk2, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 19:14 (eighteen years ago)

that looks immense, I'd be interested in going.

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 20:40 (eighteen years ago)

It does. Would kate and emsk go?

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

There's rumours Sunn o))) may be playing too.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

What Poo said, to the letter. Shite venue though.

ailsa, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 20:52 (eighteen years ago)

For Kate:

http://www.axeandyoushallreceive.com/images/shoegazer_150.jpg

Pashmina, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

We have seen one of those but are not sure what it sounds like, I can't even remember what sort of pedal it was.

Ailsa, would you and the Mr be interested in sharing a shack?

Ed, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

Hahahahahahahahaha

Sorry.

aldo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

You know I love you and N31l, obviously.

aldo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)

Venue much improved since last Christmas, too.

aldo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:05 (eighteen years ago)

(I have had a drinkie)

aldo, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)

Al, what are you on about?

Ed, I don't think so. We've just bought a house and money will be kind of tight this year. I'll ask him though.

ailsa, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 07:25 (eighteen years ago)

What instrument would drive people sane?

-- Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 3 July 2007 17:24 (Yesterday) Link

http://www.naxos.com/images/cds/555295.gif

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 07:33 (eighteen years ago)

I actually like that album but Kate is right, small measures only.

Ned Trifle II, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 07:34 (eighteen years ago)

kit @ atp in dec

g-kit, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 07:38 (eighteen years ago)

Al, what are you on about?

I WISH I KNEW.

aldo, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:05 (eighteen years ago)

Morning all. Never apply bright nail varnish in a hurry -my entire big toe is now a rather fetching shade of coral.

leigh, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:15 (eighteen years ago)

Eat obligatory post sauna sausage

FNAAARRRRR

yes i am interested in atp. as always.

emsk, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:16 (eighteen years ago)

hang on what's all this "room only" vs "self catering" bobbins?

emsk, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:17 (eighteen years ago)

"Self Catering" gets you a room with a kitchen.

"Room Only" gets you a kettle at best.

Mark G, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:21 (eighteen years ago)

that's shitty. i want to go back to camber sands.

emsk, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:22 (eighteen years ago)

you get a BED IN A BOX

tbh minehead >> camber but a lot of nostalgic bedwetters will tell you otherwise

g-kit, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:22 (eighteen years ago)

yeh but g-kit you didn't go to glastonbury bc it was a bit mucky, i am not listening to anything you say on the subject of bedwetters

emsk, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:37 (eighteen years ago)

where the FUCK can i buy shoelaces that aren't HORRIBLE. do john lewis sell shoelaces? john lewis seems to be the answer everyone gives me whenever i ask a q like this.

emsk, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:41 (eighteen years ago)

Gah, it's all confusing. I don't like festivals where you have to have friends to go, because I have no friends. :-(

I've been mucking about in colour. I'm not sure I like it, the colours don't look as good on this monitor as they did on the Mac. I think maybe it cheapens the power of the image.

[img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1136/713579659_5e461b7530.jpg";]

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:41 (eighteen years ago)

but i didn't go to glastonbury because i didn't want to sleep in a wet bed.

g-kit, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:42 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, wtf? What happened to the "i am stupid" codechecker?

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1136/713579659_5e461b7530.jpg

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:43 (eighteen years ago)

Emsk, let us pow wow on this subject. Kate interested in coming with? Might be able to rope Farmer James in as well.

Ed, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:43 (eighteen years ago)

g-kit is Brian off Big Brother AICM£5.

Minehead>>>Camber, especially now they have resolved the queuing problems.

aldo, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:44 (eighteen years ago)

Where/when is it? I'm rubbish at festivals. :-(

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:45 (eighteen years ago)

OMFG I LOVE BABE PIG IN TEH CITY

g-kit, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:46 (eighteen years ago)

Please stop. I have a headache.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:47 (eighteen years ago)

this is more of a 3-day gig than a festival, no?
it's 1st w/e in dec
wegottickets charge marginally less for booking than seetickets
i want to go, we don't have to name tix do we? i may attempt a cheapie one which doesn't give me accommodation, crash on a floor and make breakfast for everyone (no bacon)

emsk, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:48 (eighteen years ago)

This is where it all starts to go wrong, with the herding of cats, and you have to get people together and hope that they don't hate you by December, and then someone drops out and someone else decides they want to sleep on your floor and ARGH ARGH ARGH I'm stressed out 6 months before the festival even starts.

I want to go. But I am not built for this festival faff. So I end up not going.

And I'm totally down on festivals since we aren't getting to play any.
:-(

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:52 (eighteen years ago)

i can trump you by being down on gigs.

g-kit, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:53 (eighteen years ago)

but i'm still going.

g-kit, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:54 (eighteen years ago)

i'm 100% sure it's because we don't have a myspaec.

g-kit, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:55 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, but you have friends. Or at least people that *have* to go with you.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:55 (eighteen years ago)

See? Thread dead. Everyone hates me. Life is fucking shit. I'm going to get some coffee. And make some cake.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 09:59 (eighteen years ago)

kate, just tell ed whether you want to go or not and who you absolutely refuse to countenance even the idea of sharing a chalet with, then leave it to him. right, ed? er... ed?

emsk, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 10:05 (eighteen years ago)

I do want to go, but basically the conditions under which I would want to go would render it so unlike a festival (being sealed in a hermetically controlled soundproof box with no freeloaders, noisy people, arseholes, or ANYONE) that I might as well stay home and watch it on the telly.

Or perhaps I should think it over again when I haven't been in an utterly black mood for nearly a week. :-(

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 10:08 (eighteen years ago)

i'm so confused now.

plus it probably won't be on the telly.

g-kit, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

also kinda resent the idea that people only come with me because they HAVE to, wtf

g-kit, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

aw, g-kit, don't be confused. I hate everyone and everything, and everyone and everything hates me. Outside the hermetically sealed box of angst, life continues as normal for everyone else.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 10:11 (eighteen years ago)

Ah bollox. You can hate me as much as you want - and I would understand - but I flatly refuse to hate you. There. <3

stevienixed, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 10:13 (eighteen years ago)

Aw, Nath. I don't hate you.

I don't hate anyone as much as I hate myself at the moment, it's hard not to project.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 10:14 (eighteen years ago)

I thought it had finally lifted last night. It's back, like a fucking pickaxe through my frontal lobe. Depression so sharp it actually manifests itself like a headache, like a vice around your forehead.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 10:33 (eighteen years ago)

Is Ed aroun'?

What's happening with the ILXFest/Vol3 CDs?

I only ask as I don't know how this distribution is going, or should go.

I have a couple of addresses for contributors that want one, including myself. Possibly, quite a few are d/l from the page anyway, but I'm interested in seeing how the 'finished artic' shaped up. Also, send a few out to interested parties.

Mark G, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 10:48 (eighteen years ago)

http://timesonline.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/boris_johnson_4.jpg

Feel better soon

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 10:51 (eighteen years ago)

arggh

Sorry I am here and have been useless, really really useless.trying to work out when I have the time to effect distribution.

Ed, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 10:56 (eighteen years ago)

I will buy some jiffybags at lunchtime.

Ed, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 10:57 (eighteen years ago)

that could be a pic of the new london mayor
x-posts

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:10 (eighteen years ago)

If it is I am moving, he doesn't even live in London.

Ed, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:11 (eighteen years ago)

He does so live in London - he lives in Islington! Plus you should like him, he's a cyclist!

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:13 (eighteen years ago)

I thought he lived in Henley.

Ed, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:15 (eighteen years ago)

No one actually *lives* in their constituency.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:17 (eighteen years ago)

Boris's constituency is a weird shape; I can actually see parts of it out of my office window even though Oxford is 24 miles from Henley.

I'd imagine he has a house around here and a flat in London.

Grandpont Genie, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:24 (eighteen years ago)

They should.
x-post

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:26 (eighteen years ago)

even when the PM has a constituency in Scotland?

Grandpont Genie, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:27 (eighteen years ago)

Independent Scotland!

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:30 (eighteen years ago)

I'm sure Brown might be one of the few who does own a house in his constituency actually.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:30 (eighteen years ago)

Prescott has a house in his constituency, assuming she hasn't kicked him out.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:31 (eighteen years ago)

But my MP is some Blairbot who I seriously doubt has ever visited Hull.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:33 (eighteen years ago)

Oh dear, according the DASS and Goldberg tests I'm severely depressed, guess I can't stop resisting the happy pills any longer.

leigh, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:56 (eighteen years ago)

The pills made me feel worse. Pills without other therapy = shit.

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 11:59 (eighteen years ago)

The happy pills don't always work. As evidenced by what I'm going through at the moment. :-(

Pills can crack hard chemical depressions, but they can't actually give you meaning or purpose in your life.

Also, think very hard before you get on any SSRIs as they are addictive, and getting off them once you're on them is almost impossible.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 12:02 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, I casually mentioned to my (now ex-)therapist taht I would love to have some pills to *suppress* my panic attacks. He said they were bollox and would just worsen'em. "Well, WHY NOT FUCKING ADDRESS THE PANIC ATTACKS YOU BLEEDING BASTARD." I mean, I can understand his dislike but he never addressed this problem (hence me stopping with therapy altogether). When people tell me it's part of my personality, I agree up to a point. I know it is, but that doesn't mean I want to/could change that. Urgh. I hate panic attacks. I really do. Every single frigging evening I sit there thinking "What if everything just crashes into a messy debris (-> note lack of imagination)?" Now I *solve* this by just putting it in a drawer.

And now I read Gender Trouble. Maybe I shold quit pretending to be/strive towards becoming some smrat person and just read Virginia Andrews and Dan Brown books on repeat.

nathalie, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

Oh and Leigh, have you contacted a therapist? Sometimes one session can be enough to get you out of a *rut*.

nathalie, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 12:11 (eighteen years ago)

I've had problems with generalised anxiety and panic attacks over the last couple of years which has responded to CBT, because of this i've resisted SSRIs when they've been offered. This time feels different - I've had problems with generalised anxiety and panic attacks over the last couple of years which has responded to CBT, because of this I've resisted SSRIs when they've been offered. This time feels different -I feel like there's an invisible wall in front of me stopping me doing anything, I'm not sleeping, my appetite's shot and constantly feel listless and weepy.

It took visiting a friend in London who I only see a couple of times a year to suggest that I was depressed, I suppose she had the distance to see what was right under my nose. I did suffer from a very severe depression after my dad died and I guess cos I'm not feeling suicidal right now I didn't consider myself depressed. I just need a break from feeling like this to get back on a even keel and back to my old self. I was prescribed seroxat back in the day and didn't respond very well to it and that's increased my wariness.

leigh, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 12:19 (eighteen years ago)

Oh god, depression can manifest itself in various ways. Suicidal tendencies is just one of them. Leigh, please get help! If you don't feel that one therapist/drug helps you, then it's time to try something/someone else.

Personally I don't completely agree with the "part of your personality, so live with it" part. I mean, shit yeah, now it is part of "me" but I have had years of being blissful happiness without worrying about worst case scenarios. I do know what would help, but that's not going to happen anyway. So maybe I should just live with it (and stop reading *intellectual¨books). ;-)

nathalie, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 12:24 (eighteen years ago)

I've spent years trying to keep the black dog at bay but right now it feels like he's pinning me down and giving me big slobbery doggy kisses. I've booked an appointment with my lovely GP for next Tuesday so I've taken that first step. Therapy does appeal but I doubt that I'd get it on the NHS and I don't have the means to go private.

I only wish that my colleague would stop blasting out the Arcade Fire, am i alone in thinking they're totally overrated?

leigh, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 12:35 (eighteen years ago)

I also hate the new Arcade Fire album. :-( It sounds like Bruce Springsteen.

I have had carrot cake from Pret in my search for a replacement carrot cake, and it was better, but... glutinous and mooshy and filled with things that have no business being in carrot cake (coconut? pineapple?) and tasted vaguely of baking soda. The icing was as step up, though.

Oh, Leigh... I don't know what to tell you. You've been in your own head long enough to tell if something is worse than usual, or a different kind of bad. Trust your instincts over what doctors tell you. You live in your head, they don't. Short term SSRI courses are great for snapping you out of that "I'm down and I can't get up" depression, and kick-starting you back into life. If I had not started them two and a half years ago, I would not be here, I would not have a job and a flat and all these normal things that I've been able to carry on. It was like someone switched on a light, when I first started taking them, and I could see the Way Out and the stairs, so I started climbing out of the basement.

But here I am, two and a half years later, still on them, and they've not helped with the long term existential stuff that really needed *good* CBT to deal with. My CBT course was so crap, honestly, it reaffirmed every negative tape that plays in the back of my head.

Not all smart books are dull, Nath. If the book is dull, it is the fault of the author, I find. There are lots of intellectual books on intellectual subjects that make it seem far more clear - in fact, I think that's the mark of a really good writer, to take something insanely complicated and make it seem almost easy. That's why I love writers like Simon Singh.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 12:50 (eighteen years ago)

Also, you absolutely *can* get therapy on the NHS. You just have to be prepared to wait a bit. (And also, you don't always get to pick your therapist, or exchange them if you really don't get on with them.) Though here's a handy hint for queue-jumping - don't tell them that you feel like harming yourself, tell them that you are afraid you may harm someone *else*. When I was having really bad anger attacks I told them I was afraid I was going to push someone in front of a train. Got seen a lot more quickly.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 13:01 (eighteen years ago)

My CBT was essentially guided self help, I had an initial session with a clinical psychologist who assessed where the problems lay and what materials I needed then sent me off to put them into practice with two follow up sessions over a period of 3 months. It was very effective in heading off the acute panic/anxiety symptoms but did nothing to help the underlying reasons that make behave and react the way I do and requires a level of motivation and self control that I just don't possess right now. A more thorough kind of therapy (and the associated massive waiting list) was mentioned before, maybe that's the way to go.

I had macaroni cheese for lunch, best comfort food ever.

leigh, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 13:11 (eighteen years ago)

Thing is, sign up and get on the waiting list now. If you are feeling different by the time it comes around, you can always cancel it. Don't be put off by the length of a waiting list. It only gets longer if you dither. :-(

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, thanks Kate, I'd actually made an appointment to see my GP about 3 weeks ago - I was aware that something wasn't right but couldn't put my finger on it, but stupidly allowed myself to be talked out of it by a friend who really didn't understand how bad things were(not to mention i was feeling too listless to get out of bed in time for the appointment). Maybe if I'd gone I'd already be on the waiting list...

leigh, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

What is CBT, can I ask?

I always find these discussions quite interesting (sorry), because I am quite certain I am the most miserable person I know, and yet no one has ever suggested that I get therapy or go on happy pills. And then occasionally there are these moments when it seems like half the people you know *are*. And you think to yourself, why are all these happy people with friends, partners and social lives on drugs and in therapy, whereas I am apparently "normal". It's all very discouraging.

mitya, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

CBT is cognitive behavioural therapy - more info here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_behavioural_therapy

leigh, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 13:41 (eighteen years ago)

Mitya, you may be miserable, but you are functioning.

I guess?

I don't have a clue, actually.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

No, of course you don't have a clue. (Just because your Porsche starts, that doesn't mean its really *working* ;)

I would much prefer to be clinically depressed than just a miserable git, though.

Anyway, no judgment on anyone intended, I just find all this stuff interesting for a bunch of reasons I won't go into here.

mitya, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

Depression is the common cold of the psychological world.

But then again, in the same way that different illnesses share common symptoms, it could be anything from minor sniffles up to full blown pneumonia. You can't always tell by looking.

Oh, I don't know. I want to say something, but can't think of how to express it, and know it will probably be misinterpreted anyway.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

Kate OTM. It's when you cease to function that things go awry...

leigh, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

Misinterpretation is the hallmark of communication today!

On a lighter note, can I just say that I've been listening to a lot of that minimal techno stuff (or at least what I think is minimal techno) and I quite like it. Sort of the same idea as you listen to the tidal flows as waves of guitar wash over you. But quieter.

mitya, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

Mitya, at risk of even worse miscommunication, please feel free to email if you wanna talk about this stuff further. I've become wary of talking too much on ILX these days.

Please give some examples of what (you think) minimal techno is, because I'm quite lost there. I don't know anything about techno, minimal or otherwise. I'm listening to early Spiritualized rehearsal/demos and wondering where it all went wrong. Except now it's over, and I'm listening to Steve Hillage because that finished and it was what was next in the order.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 14:22 (eighteen years ago)

On a more London centric note, is anyone else going to see Cowboy Jim tonight?

Anyone else going shoegazing on Sunday?

I feel like I should make an effort to get out of the house. At least be miserable somewhere else.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

I won't suggest last.fm because you can't listen as I recall (not worth getting internet at home?), although that is actually a pretty easy exploration "channel."

I've been listening to a lot of groups that this group likes (although admittedly some of the stuff on the charts isn't, I think, actuall "minimal," e.g. Justice, Bjork, etc.). Basically it's anything released on the Kompakt label - The Field's From Here We Go Sublime is pretty interesting, although there's a certain shtick there; and Michael Mayer (he's a DJ)'s Immer mix/comp is pretty good.

I can send some goodies if you want.

mitya, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

God em-ef-ing reflux. I thought I was gonna go all Linda Blair when I was cycling an hour ago. Anyone have any tips? I have some sort of *fluid* but it tastes VILE. :-(

nathalie, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

Also, CBT stinks. ;-) I'm exaggerating, but I don't think it helps with miserable gits like me and you. :-D

nathalie, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

I did not know about cowboy jim and I am tidying tonight in any case, bum.

Mitya, check out Move-D Sheffield Dance, it is rocking my world right now.

Ed, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

New Racebannon is rocking my world at the moment.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

We discovered Veronica Mars. I wuv it.

nathalie, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 14:57 (eighteen years ago)

Kate check email for j spaceman cookies

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.last.fm/music/Spring%2BHeel%2BJack%2B%252F%2BJ.Spaceman%2B%252F%2BSteve%2BNoble%2B%252F%2BAlan%2BWilkinson
haha obviously noone has got onto the 2nd half yet.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

i have just come down with a case of the kicked puppy blues

emsk, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 16:42 (eighteen years ago)

Just when I thought life couldn't get any more shit... :-(

Just got in a major row with the head of Finance and nearly walked out of my job. Just a real "straw that broke the camel's back" moment. He was all "what are you doing?" because I was looking at MySpace. Then he gets all stroppy and goes "this is the second time in two days I've come over and you've been on the internet." So I said "yes, DAD" and went to put my headphones on, and then it just went pearshaped. It's the last freaking straw with the micromanagement CLEAN DESK POLICY, CAN'T EAT AT YOUR DESK, WHAT'S UP WITH YOUR FLEXI-TIME, YOU ARE OUT OF UNIFORM, WHY WERE YOU OFF SICK AFTER YOU HAD A MAJOR OPERATION crap that's been going on.

Spent half an hour in a coffeeshop with my line manager being persuaded not to quit. I basically said, everything that I *liked* about this job is being micromanaged away. All I care about is results. Do I get the job done competently or not.

Yeah, I know I'm on the internet quite a bit, but you know what? I'm an adult. I get my work done. More than competently. I work extra hours when it is required. The internet is the only thing some days that keeps me coming in to work. That's not a good sign, that I hate my job that much that only internet access keeps me here. I'm giving it one month to see if things settle down and then it's time to start looking for a new job that engages me more.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 17:13 (eighteen years ago)

aw fuck, kate :(
does sound like it's time to move on.

emsk, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 17:59 (eighteen years ago)

Oh Kate, I agree with emsk, fuck it, move ON.

stevienixed, Wednesday, 4 July 2007 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

(Doubt I'll be on much tomorrow, so I'll post this now, despite nobody being around to see it.)

Kate, it does sound like it's getting to you too much to be worth staying. On the positive side, though, at least you've got your line manager trying to get you to stay, which proves they do value you (and it won't be just because you're the only one who knows how to do it - jobs are not expected to last that long these days, so it really is proof of your value that they want you to stick around). As far as I can see it is worth letting people know, calmly, what is wrong with the environment, and then moving on to better pastures anyway.

On a completely different note, does anyone know anything about the Sadista Mika Band?

emil.y, Thursday, 5 July 2007 00:36 (eighteen years ago)

In order:
1. One of the more unlikely things I've read on the internet is Nath saying she's a miserable git.
2. Will seek out Move-D this week.
3. Veronica Mars is yet another one of those examples of TV writers somehow stumbling into a character that I feel in love with instantly. Absolutely unexplainable.

4, and most importantly: Kate, your task for the weekend is to update your resume and start sending it out. It's time to move on, and although emil.y is right about your line manager understanding your value, it will only get worse from here.

mitya, Thursday, 5 July 2007 02:50 (eighteen years ago)

(actually, wait, are nathalie and stevienixed two different people? i b confuzed)

mitya, Thursday, 5 July 2007 02:50 (eighteen years ago)

Am I the only person in the world that thinks if your boss tells you not to do something, you don't do it? I fucking hate my bosses and my workplace, yet love what I do. So I don't post to ILX at work, I turn off my mobile even though I'm waiting for important news from home, I go to compulsory staff "fun" things even though I'd rather be at home sticking rusty pins in my eyeballs. This is because it's part and parcel of what happens when someone is paying you for the use of your time. It's shit and boring and whatever, yes, but it's not unreasonable.

But, yeah, Kate, the fact that they've convinced you you are valued and want you to stay = a good thing. Start applying elsewhere if you're finding it hard to stay positive and motivated, but abide by their silly rules until you leave so that you leave on good terms and get a decent reference off them.

ailsa, Thursday, 5 July 2007 06:40 (eighteen years ago)

I don't disagree with with you, ailsa, but my sense is that a) people who are not kate's direct boss are the ones raising the issues, and b) they have somewhat changed the rules on her - things that were allowed/not an issue when she started are now not allowed/an issue.

I still think she should focus on finding something new, but in the interim, it sounds like the proper course of action would be to discuss all the issues with her boss and then have him/her sort out the company politics.

mitya, Thursday, 5 July 2007 07:13 (eighteen years ago)

Ailsa, I can def see your point. But if she's not happy and gets the job done, yet they complain? Depends onw how much Kate uses the internet and if that effects her work.

Mitya: stevienixed is my other account. I can't seem to log in - I R Moron - from other comps with my nathalie account.

nathalie, Thursday, 5 July 2007 07:18 (eighteen years ago)

Depends onw how much Kate uses the internet and if that effects her work.

No it doesn't, it depends on what the company policy is.

ailsa, Thursday, 5 July 2007 07:31 (eighteen years ago)

Well, yes, but they've caught her twice? That seems a bit stricts. And, yes, I know you are right.

nathalie, Thursday, 5 July 2007 07:36 (eighteen years ago)

Being caught once would tend to make me think twice about doing something a second time. But whatever.

ailsa, Thursday, 5 July 2007 07:39 (eighteen years ago)

Ailsa brings much truth to this thread. Big corporations have big corporation rules, which are pretty much enforced most of the time (ymmv, if your immediate management are as motivated as you are they'll probably get glossed over, if you have bright! young! thrusting! would-be climbers then they will be enforced to show how good they are and why they should be promoted). Ability of anyone not at board level to affect any part of company policy tends towards zero. You have to just comply with enough not to get you sacked, there's not much more to it than that.

aldo, Thursday, 5 July 2007 08:35 (eighteen years ago)

I think you can afford to bend the rules, but don't bend too many at once. If you want to doss around on the internet a bit, make sure you're squeaky clean on other stuff - like being helpful, being in on time and being nice to people you'd rather poke in the eye.

If you're caught doing something you shouldn't, the best thing to do is to apologize nicely and be ultra-helpful for a few days until its forgotten. Then you can do it again.

Ailsa speaks a lot of sense, - my own personal style is to deliver exactly what they want on-time, all the time. That gives me enormous leeway to pretty much keep the hours I want or work from home. It does help that I am not really supervised as such, and it sounds like Kate has people on her back much of the time.

Company rules like clean desk policy are just total arse, but if everyone else complies, you have to do it.

Dr.C, Thursday, 5 July 2007 08:52 (eighteen years ago)

clean desk policy = reserve one drawer just for shovelling desk contents into last thing before leaving at night, hauling it back out next morning.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 5 July 2007 08:56 (eighteen years ago)

OK, my bullshit buttons have just been pushed.

Someone wittering on about anarcho-syndicalism and all that crap - while using MYSPACE to organise their anarcho-syndicate and trying to get people to buy tickets via PAYPAL. A bit like decrying witchcraft while selling your soul the devil, I think?

I don't have a problem with people using the services that are available to them, but I do have a problem with the hypocrisy of using the very system you are trying to "overthrow".

People be idiots.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:17 (eighteen years ago)

There are still anarcho-syndicalists?

Tom D., Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:21 (eighteen years ago)

Grumble. I only just got into work. Stupid Victoria line, overland AND central line all fucked. Now I'm going to be in a bad mood all morning. Or at least until I can have some breakfast and coffee... my colleague who also lives in Walthamstow still hasn't got in yet, maybe she sensibly gave up and went home!

xpost lots of anarcho-punk bands have Myspace but I would think they'd excuse it as subverting the system from within, like Zounds said.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:21 (eighteen years ago)

I though "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" had done for them

Tom D., Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:21 (eighteen years ago)

I'm hungover like a bastard but I won £110 in a quiz last night, so I don't care - I had to pick one of three envelopes, one of which had a cash prize in it and I picked the right one, hurrah!

Tom D., Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:23 (eighteen years ago)

sweet!

mitya, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:28 (eighteen years ago)

Result! Any fun questions?

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:30 (eighteen years ago)

Which country drinks most alcohol in the world? (per capita I take it)

Tom D., Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:34 (eighteen years ago)

Russia?

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:36 (eighteen years ago)

Is it Czech Republic? I think that's the most beer, not booze in general though.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:37 (eighteen years ago)

No. That's what we put! (xp)

Tom D., Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:37 (eighteen years ago)

Finland?

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:39 (eighteen years ago)

OK, I've just googled it. Surprising!

ailsa, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:39 (eighteen years ago)

Not that suprising, but I suppose it won't stop the snooty bastards looking down their noses at us Northern Europeans boozebags - even tho they're so pissed it's a miracle they can see past the end of their noses

Tom D., Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:44 (eighteen years ago)

Hmm, aren't they in Northern Europe, or did my googling come up with a different result to yours?

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:46 (eighteen years ago)

Gotta be France?

If not, Ireland or Scotland?

Dr.C, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:46 (eighteen years ago)

France are nowhere near.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:46 (eighteen years ago)

Eh? Snooty? What answer did you get? xxxpost

ailsa, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:47 (eighteen years ago)

Luxembourg isn't that surprising?

mitya, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:47 (eighteen years ago)

Someone wittering on about anarcho-syndicalism and all that crap - while using MYSPACE to organise their anarcho-syndicate and trying to get people to buy tickets via PAYPAL. A bit like decrying witchcraft while selling your soul the devil, I think?

LOL. "We are overthrowing the system from within" probably. Idiots.

There are still anarcho-syndicalists?

I was an anarcho-syndicalist for years - Makhno & Bakunin my heroes etc. Charver culture caused it to die a hard death. Now I'm a left-wing authoritarian.

Pashmina, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:47 (eighteen years ago)

x-post : they are! You could get there in a couple of hours.

Dr.C, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:47 (eighteen years ago)

Aye, I'm talking about Luxembourg too. Fairly northern European, and not particularly noted for being snooty.

ailsa, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:48 (eighteen years ago)

aussie kate has some most delicious looking cakes on her flickr and now I am hungry.

I am somewhere on your trajectory, Pash.

I saw the most incredible mike burrows carbon fibre recumbant yesterday.

Ed, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:48 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, I was also talking about Luxembourg!

Har har, Doc! France were 17th BTW. We came in at 10th.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:49 (eighteen years ago)

I googled it as well. I also found a link to the WHO report from 2004, which breaks it down into wine, beer and spirits as well as piles of other interesting things with stats. It also suggests the correct answer is actually Uganda, but the lack of detailed knowledge of their home-made booze culture doesn't help.

http://www.who.int/substance_abuse/publications/global_status_report_2004_overview.pdf

aldo, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:51 (eighteen years ago)

10th? We have to TRY HARDER!

Dr.C, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:51 (eighteen years ago)

Nothing like setting people off on a google-search for information to liven up a thread ;)

mitya, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:52 (eighteen years ago)

I'm doing my best for Britain!

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:53 (eighteen years ago)

About the stuff from yesterday...

I don't even know if we have a clearly defined internet policy. If we did have a totalitarian one, you can be assured that I, as MI Manager for the company, would be involved in doing something about it. That's part of my job. I'm in a management role, I have a huge amount of responsibility, and, I have always felt, must be allowed a certain amount of freedom in order to exercise that responsibility.

There are two ways to approach one's employees/employer.

One is to take a very paternalistic, proscriptive, thou shalt, thou shalt not attitude towards them, to define their rights and responsibilities very closely, and to make them little more than peons or slaves in the service of the company.

The other is to treat them with a fair amount of respect and give them the freedom to get on with things, even if they may be unconventional. This requires a bit more trust, but the attitude is, that you hire the right people for the roles, and let them thrive.

In big corporations, there is often a great deal of the former. I don't respond well in those kind of environments. I don't deal well with heirarchies. Just because someone is higher up the chain and is paid more than me or has a bigger job title does *not* know that they know how to do my job better than me. I don't have an automatic deferential attitude towards "bosses" - I give respect to those that respet me. I have reached a point in my career where I have the skills and experience to expect that respect.

My attitude towards the employee/employer relationship is that a happy employee is a productive employee. If the work environment is pleasant, people will be happy to spend more time there. If it's not pleasant, they'll work their contract hours, find ways to dodge work, and dash out as soon as possible. Part of making an employee happy is understanding their work/life balance - that certain things like checking email are as important to this as cigarette breaks or chats by the watercooler or the occasional personal phone call are for others. If someone is abusing this trust, it will show up in their work quality. If their work quality is *not* affected, what does it matter?

That is the only criteria by which I judge an employee. If they get their job done. The rest of it is immaterial.

This is the way that this company was when I was hired, and it was the way that it worked for a couple of years. However, every single person involved in my hiring process has now either resigned or been made redundant. I feel like things are changing, and not for the better.

Especially since the office move, the head of Finance (*not* my line manager) has been doing all these little things for the sake of his keeping his department under his iron fist (even though the lines have of his department are now pretty arbitrarily delined - to the point where MI and Projects have been forcibly separated from IT and Central Support - conceptually and in terms of how we work, these should go together, but we've been separated so that Mighty Mouse can have his little kingdom - just as an example.)

As far as I'm concerned, this man is not my line manager. My line manager knows how much work I do, and how much "slack" I'm entitled to. The head of Finance doesn't even understand what my role is. This is in the same line as people complaining that I'm not working my full contracted hours when I'm come in specially against doctor's advice to do one specific thing.

The bottom line is not whether I'm "caught" on the internet. The bottom line for me is, am I so unhappy in my current position that I'm turning to the internet as an escape? If I am, it's time for me to leave, both for my own happiness, and the company.

Anyway, there's no need to reply to this or discuss this. Or tell me I'm a monster with entitlement issues because I expect to be treated with respect and freedom in a management role. I just needed to get it out.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 5 July 2007 09:56 (eighteen years ago)

Also, I may get a Roland Juno-6 out of someone else's divorce. I feel bad about the mess of dealing with the guilty partner, but what a great keyboard, it was my first synth when I was a kid.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:02 (eighteen years ago)

Har har, Doc! France were 17th BTW. We came in at 10th

What d'ye mean, it is France!

Tom D., Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:05 (eighteen years ago)

I said it was!

Dr.C, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:05 (eighteen years ago)

how can it not be Russia? Five year olds can buy beer there!

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:08 (eighteen years ago)

But the off-licences only have 7 bottles available.

Dr.C, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:09 (eighteen years ago)

They probably do not count all of the non-beverage alcohol they drink.

Ed, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:09 (eighteen years ago)

But I've just checked and it IS Luxembourg:

1. Luxembourg
2. Czech Republic
3. Ireland
4. Moldova
5. FRANCE
...

18. UK! (below the European AND EU average!)

Tom D., Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:11 (eighteen years ago)

I realise there's no need to reply or discuss, but I'm going to anyway because it interests me. Even in management, you are still part of the big corporate machine, people employed by other people to do something are subject to the rules and regulations and whims of the people paying them for their time and skills. If you feel that they are unfair and against what was in your contract of employment, then take it to HR and/or your union.

"the head of Finance doesn't even understand what my role is" wouldn't cut much ice with me as an example of someone being unfair to you, btw, as it can be pretty easily countered with a "well, neither do I, but I bet it doesn't involve fucking around on MySpace".

I check my email/phone etc on my lunch hour or before 9 or when I'm out of the office, because I got told the policy on these things and, fuck it, these guys are paying me lots of money and I don't want them to stop paying me it anytime soon. It's shit, but it's life. It has seriously not occurred to me to think that I can go about things my own way regardless of what those higher up think. It's kind of surprising to me that so many people on this thread (and others like it) think that it's OK and act all wronged when they get their knuckles rapped for it.

(did you really say "ok, DAD" to a top senior boss dude, then ignore him by putting your headphones on? RESPECT! I haven't done that to anyone since I was about nine. Obv, I secretly fantasise about being really rude and rebellious at work, but I am a great big feartie so never actually will do it)

ailsa, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:13 (eighteen years ago)

Where are you getting that from, Tom? Mine came from World Health Organisation 2007 study, as reported in the Economist.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:14 (eighteen years ago)

World Health Organisation 2004!

Tom D., Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:16 (eighteen years ago)

Poorly-researched pub quizzes are a pain in the arse. I was at one a few weeks ago where someone had written the answers for someone else and the question was "what is the capital of Uzbekistan" and when he gave out the answers he said it was "Pashkent" and about three people went "no, it's Tashkent" and he said "well, it looks like it says Pashkent here and that's what I'm going with" despite the fact that three separate teams had independently come up with the same "wrong" answer and no-one had come up with the "right" one. Bastard.

ailsa, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:16 (eighteen years ago)

wait, someone comperes a pub quiz from a *handwritten* sheet? Amateur.

I like pwning ppl on the music round in pub quizzes; I prolly need to play in one against ilxors, that'd soon wipe the smile off my face....

Grandpont Genie, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:23 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

I guess the question is whether something is formal policy or whether the person simply saw her on the internet and didn't like it. Given how long these threads have been around, I find it difficult to believe that she has ignored actual policy for that long and not heard about it before. We have no policy about the internet here, but I still do my best to only be seen on say, the FT website, something reasonably justifiable in the context of work.

I also think a lot has to do with the size and formality of the organization. Dr. C's "and then you can go back and do it again" is somewhat shocking to me, as well, but it totally depends on what IT is, what the company's like, what your position is, etc. etc. I mean, to me being told your mobile phone must be switched off during work sounds like either a) fascist environment #1 or b) you are working the cash registers at McDonald's or something that equally demands full attention and perfect presentation all the time.

mitya, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:24 (eighteen years ago)

x-post about wrong quiz questions.

Did you see that Bohemian vs Boffin quiz in the Observer on Sunday? There were two wrong answers in the Boffin part! Helium IS a flippin' Noble Gas!! I can't remember the other one - it'll come to me later. I scored 6/10 on each section, so I'm a bohoboff or something. Mrs. Dr. C got 5 (boff) and 9 (bohem) and my sister got 1 (boff) and a terrifying 10 (bohem).

Dr.C, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:27 (eighteen years ago)

And we were doing a school music quiz - they played songs from films and one was that bloody 'Mad World' cover. They said 'the artist was Tears For Fears'!! I stood up and protested that it was Gary Jules. They grudgingly said 'we'll accept either TFF or Gary Jules'. We still won.

Dr.C, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

I had one the other week where they got the Nobel Prizes wrong.

aldo, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:33 (eighteen years ago)

http://M.assetbar.com/uua9CMFJs.gif

Ed, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

I just got told a crap joke.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)

share

Ed, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:43 (eighteen years ago)

I thought of you this morning when I saw your name on a loaf of bread while I was making toast. Then I realised it said THICK CUT.

aldo, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:45 (eighteen years ago)

(crap joke that is, not insult at Ed)

aldo, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:45 (eighteen years ago)

ok blame ED for having to read this

A man goes to an exotic tropical island for a vacation.

As his boat nears the island, he notices the constant sound of drumming. As he gets off the boat, he asks one of the natives how long it will go on.

The native looks about nervously and says, "Very bad when the drumming stops."

At the end of the day, the drumming is still going, and it's starting to get on the man's nerves.

So he asks another native when the drumming will stop.

The native looks as if he's just been reminded of something very unpleasant. "Very bad when the drumming stops," he says, and hurries off.

After a couple of days with little sleep, the traveler is finally fed up. He grabs the nearest native, slams him up against a tree, and shouts, "What happens when the drumming stops?!!"

The native says, "Bass solo."

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:47 (eighteen years ago)

Not only crap, but ancient to boot.

Pashmina, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:48 (eighteen years ago)

Made me laugh.

Ed, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:48 (eighteen years ago)

I preferred aldo's one.

ailsa, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:50 (eighteen years ago)

I like pwning ppl on the music round in pub quizzes; I prolly need to play in one against ilxors, that'd soon wipe the smile off my face....

I pwned that Jeremy Beadle in this way!

Mark G, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:52 (eighteen years ago)

Some DVDs arrived from the states. At last I get to see not one, but two Norma Talmadge films - 1916 and 1918! One of them sounds great, the other one a bit lame. Also a Pola Negri film and a Louise Brooks film ("Beggars of Life", supposedly her best one)

Pashmina, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:52 (eighteen years ago)

The formal policy is along the lines of "we understand that people have lives, and we accept that people need to check their email during their work hours, like they need to take personal phone calls sometimes. We suggest that people maintain private emails addresses for these purposes so as not to expose ::company:: to liability or compliance issues if you use your official work email." But so long as it does not interfere with one's work, there's nothing prohibiting it.

Boss Dude has just seriously been up in my face recently. I have no idea what he's playing at, if he's trying to be down with his department, or if he's just micromanaging or what. The office plan has changed so that he comes and stands at my bank of desks whenever he wants to talk to the financial comptroller across the bank, coz he's lazy and can't be bothered walking all the way around to the other side. In the past week he has... 1) criticised my CD collection. I mean, actually went and dug through the CDs on my desk and picked up and put his fingers all over my Adam and the Ants CD. 2) complained that the beetles I was looking at (a friend sent me a link to the Horniman) were "gross". I had no idea that this was a criticism of my usage of the internet until he said something yesterday. I thought he was in his clumbsy way trying to be "matey" with the staff. But if this turns to micromanagement, he can fuck off.

I dislike him; it's hard for me to separate personality conflict from being actually unhappy with management styles.

Anyway, the result is, I'm now really busy as my line manager has just dumped a whole bunch of work on me - in retaliation, or what, I don't know. But at least I'm busy now. Gives me less chance to think about how much I hate this place.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:53 (eighteen years ago)

Not living in Glasgow, I miss hearing jokes - nobody seems to tell them in London.... well, there is one guy I know who does - he's Scottish, of course.... hold on, there's another guy too, and he's Scottish too

Tom D., Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:56 (eighteen years ago)

so there's a scotsman, englishman and irishman and only the scotsman tells jokes?

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 July 2007 10:59 (eighteen years ago)

That's how it seems. I regret missing all the Glasgow Airport Terrorist Attack jokes - the first one was probably made up DURING the attack!

Tom D., Thursday, 5 July 2007 11:01 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think i've heard any.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 July 2007 11:02 (eighteen years ago)

Singe Majeep?

Tom D., Thursday, 5 July 2007 11:02 (eighteen years ago)

no

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 July 2007 11:12 (eighteen years ago)

Kate> what cd's did you have on your desk?

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 5 July 2007 11:13 (eighteen years ago)

Only jokes i've heard have been the comedy Asian names ones "Singe Majeep" "Bashir Doorin" "Maheed Zonfire", that sort of thing. Plus car being in contravention of smoking in public places, ho ho. I work with humourless morons and haven't been in the pub enough though.

Last night my part-Iranian friend thought it would be hilarious to ask the barmaid to not let the bomb disposal unit take his bag away if he nipped out for a fag. And, yes, it raised laughs all round rather than anyone actually freaking out or anything.

ailsa, Thursday, 5 July 2007 11:26 (eighteen years ago)

I had an Eno/Cluster CD and a Jesus and Mary Chain CD and an Adam and the Ants CD. He was really dismissive about the others, all "no idea what this is". This is the same bloke who was going on about the Sex Pistols last month. I'm tempted to look up his birthdate in the database and come out with "dude, you were 12 when then Pistols broke up, STFU" next time he goes on about it. Ha ha, close - 13.

I can use my MI powers for evil, if I choose. Mwah hah hah hah.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 5 July 2007 12:31 (eighteen years ago)

Been looking up the bands from the rest of the lineup for that Festival, and it just looks better and better.

Dodgy politics, stupid paypal and convoluted hoop-jumping to get tickets aside, it really is a weekend of the kind of dronerock, shoegazing, psychedelia and kraut that I utterly love. And I'm getting more and more depressed at the idea that I just won't be able to go because of stupid, stupid reasons.

1) Because I don't have a Paypal account, mainly because I had incredible technical problems every time I tried to set one up, and tickets can only be bought throgh Paypal.

2) Because I've got fairly used to going to London gigs on mine own, I just kind of sit in the corner and draw. But it's quite another thing to go to a festival on mine own - sorry, I just don't have that kind of adventurous spirit any more.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)

Any tips on getting rid of post blub in the toilets red eyes without the aid of eye drops? I've got green eyeliner on which only serves to emphasise the redness.

leigh, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:12 (eighteen years ago)

xpost Buh buh I was a wee one when the Sex Pistols broke up as well! Then again, I never much liked'em anyway. (SHOOT ME!) I did once drag my mum inside a punk bar when we were in London. My mom was so scared but ten year old Nath didn't really get why. They did look rather strangely at us when we entered the bar. hahah Shit, now I realize that my mum was younger at the time than I am now. ARGH! Confrontation with age, never a good thing.

I'm fascinated with Calum Best. I don't know why.

nathalie, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:13 (eighteen years ago)

Just cold water on the eyes. Put some on a paper towel and make a cold compress out of it. Leave for a couple of minutes, repeat if necessary. If that doesn't work, take some tissues along with you when you go back to your desk, and sniff about some kind of allergens.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:14 (eighteen years ago)

I'm fascinated with Calum Best. I don't know why.

Seek professional help. Immediately.

Tom D., Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:14 (eighteen years ago)

Nath, I'm sure you don't wander about the office trying to prove you're still "cool" despite being a gold-playing accountant, by claiming to have seen a band who broke up when you were 13.

I mean, sure, I listen to a lot of music from the 70s, but I don't claim to have ever seen NEU! or Yes or anyone when I was, oh, 5.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:17 (eighteen years ago)

I'm currently sniffling into a tissue muttering about my hay fever (which i do actually have but never usually affects my eyes). Got the attention span of a particularly lackadaisical goldfish today.

leigh, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:19 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway, who am I kidding? I don't even own a tent, I'm scared of festivals and I hate sleeping in a field with people intent on larging it, rock'n'roll stylee. I can't drive, so it's not like I can even get there.

And what's more, I'm sick of always being the person who tries to round other people up to do stuff. No one else ever thinks to include *me* when they come to rounding up people to do stuff. (Except, OK, Ed trying to get me to go to ATP yesterday, but that's maybe why I'm freaked out about it.) :-(

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

Surely Nath's colleagues consist of O who isn't old enough to call her on it yet.

Ed, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

I saw the Sex Pistols in 1976! I had just turned 15.

Dr.C, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:31 (eighteen years ago)

ok kate. want to come to reading?

emsk, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:36 (eighteen years ago)

or southend

g-kit, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

No thank you, Emsk, though thanks for offering. That is exactly the weekend that I would like to go to the Dream Machine.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:43 (eighteen years ago)

how about southend though?

g-kit, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:46 (eighteen years ago)

Are you having any dronerock festivals? I'd love to go to a dronerock festival in Southend.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, the Juno is an eBay thing. I have to send him a cheque, and he will send me a synth. Argh. I have never eBay'd. I remain vaguely suspicious of it. (This is a sure sign that you are getting old.) I've just heard too many stories of people mailing off cheques and never getting any synth. And eBay/Paypal being NO HELP AT ALL in trying to chase the people down to get your money back. :-(

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 5 July 2007 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

i'm going to a festival this weekend. i wouldn't say it's specifically a dronerock festival, but i'm sure it will have an element of dronerock.

g-kit, Thursday, 5 July 2007 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

Let me pay by paypal, you give me money, you get the buyer protection then.

Ed, Thursday, 5 July 2007 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

Actually Ned's right, they're a bunch of stoners, and the whole thing will probably be one giant smelly smog of potsmoke and all kinds of other things I totally disapprove of, so instead of getting angsty about not being able to go, I should just rubbish the whole thing like sour grapes. Yeah.

Ed, it's already been set up to buy the keyboard that way, I can't change it. I'm getting it as part of the divorce settlement of someone who can't really afford to get it any more. But I still may need to get it delivered to your house as I've no idea what the policy of getting stuff delivered to the new office is.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 5 July 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

no worries, it can come to mine if I can play with it.

Ed, Thursday, 5 July 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

Ah no, I don't talk to my employees about music. It's very clear they don't know shit about it. Trust me, I'm not being snotty about it, we have talked about music vaguely. I rarely if ever talk (or talked) about music, it never appealed to me. And I would def never brag about having seen a band (esp when it's clear I couldn't have unless the band did a gig in the local kindergarten.)

Tom, I know, I really do need help. :-( But he has this bastardly good look.

nathalie, Thursday, 5 July 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

I'm lucky cos my colleague is really into extreme metal so we can talk about stuff like Slayer, Cryptopsy, Beherit etc and I've introduced him to Repulsion, Death's 2nd album, Melt Banana, all of which he's subsequently bought, and he's been educating me about all the Norwegian church-burning black metal. Plus since reading Lords Of Chaos he's interested in all the 80s hardcore punk I'm into.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 5 July 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

The only thing worse than people who go "eeuuw, I've never heard of any of that weird music you listen to" are the people who try to pretend they're, like, down with the kids because they can recognise the name of some CD I've got in my pile.

God, I just ... I was gonna say I hate this place so much, but right now I seem to hate every single aspect of my life. I have got to the point where I can't actually think of anything that would make anything more than a short term difference to my happiness or contentment. And even the short term stuff is getting harder to get excited by.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 5 July 2007 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

...just went to the watercooler, and watched a young woman walking up the street, wearing a huge headscarf, and a skirt that was slit up the back to just above mid-thigh. Am I getting old, or is that a bit of a contradiction?

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 5 July 2007 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

that sounds cool. wait - what sort of headscarf, like one to keep warm/dry or like a my-religion-says-i-must-hide-my-face one? cos the latter would be cool.

plus k8 you have tons of ppl what love you, with all your spikes and angles and all...

emsk, Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

Damnit damnit damnit, I have just been look at a friend's 4th of July coney island pictures, not a cloud in the sky, not one. Where the hell is our summer? I want to feel some warmth, sit in the sunshine and drink beer.

Ed, Friday, 6 July 2007 06:02 (eighteen years ago)

Uh, Ed, it was overcast all day in nyc on the 4th!

G00blar, Friday, 6 July 2007 06:30 (eighteen years ago)

At least one day this week it was sunny on coney island

Ed, Friday, 6 July 2007 07:51 (eighteen years ago)

i.e. more sunny than here

Ed, Friday, 6 July 2007 07:51 (eighteen years ago)

I think we had our summer in April. I shouldn't really complain as I hate hate HATE the heat.

nathalie, Friday, 6 July 2007 07:56 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, remember last year's "I can't stand it this hot" thread?

Should start one now, "I can't stand it this overcast"

Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2007 08:31 (eighteen years ago)

i like it overcast. I like it because it reflects my poor pitiful state of mind. Actually, I'm (half-)joking. I do have to say that teh weather really influences me much more than I like to think.

nathalie, Friday, 6 July 2007 08:33 (eighteen years ago)

i just checked out the weather foreast for rome. SUNSUNSUNSUNSUNSUNSUNSUN! whee!

emsk, Friday, 6 July 2007 08:34 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, about 35 degrees, right?

nathalie, Friday, 6 July 2007 08:40 (eighteen years ago)

28-32. CANNOT WAIT. DAEREST SUNSHINE, PLS TO BURN ME TO 1X CRISP.

emsk, Friday, 6 July 2007 09:09 (eighteen years ago)

Tampere is set for rain

Ed, Friday, 6 July 2007 09:23 (eighteen years ago)

It is better cloudy and overcast rather than too hot. However, I do feel silly being freezing cold because I neglected to bring a jacket in July.

I'm still sweating though. It could be below zero and I'd still be sweating. I'd sweat through a penguin winter.

Internal weather still terrible.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 09:28 (eighteen years ago)

Also, my bloody email is bouncing. Even if people were emailing me, I wouldn't get it anyway.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 09:30 (eighteen years ago)

cloudy, overcast AND too hot - shitty combination. i had to get the bus on saturday and the tube this morning. HOW DO YOU COPE PEOPLE.

how much money do i need for 48 hours in rome? am staying with the promoter so would be good to buy them dinner or sth.

emsk, Friday, 6 July 2007 09:31 (eighteen years ago)

Depends on how big of a habbit you have. ;-)

nathalie, Friday, 6 July 2007 09:34 (eighteen years ago)

ARGH FFS stop playing that Mika follow-up single on the radio. It's just HORRENDOUS.

nathalie, Friday, 6 July 2007 09:42 (eighteen years ago)

Well, at last something slightly entertaining. A link to downloads for every album in Copey's krautrock top 50. I can finally fill in the gaps.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 09:43 (eighteen years ago)

!!!

Any chance you could share that, Kate? :) I've got a few of them off Slsk already but it would save a lot of time...

Colonel Poo, Friday, 6 July 2007 09:47 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, stupid fucking file sharer won't let me download more than one since I'm a "free user". :-(

So much for getting happy.

Has anyone heard of ChargeTV? Is it real or is a scam? They asked me to submit video content. I don't know how to shot video.

Poo, it's here:
http://www.theforum.com/showthread.php?t=93840

Sssshhhhhhhhh.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 09:48 (eighteen years ago)

Posting that will probably violate the cookie rules. Feel free to delete that link, Pash, if it does.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 09:49 (eighteen years ago)

also, the top banner is nsfw in there.

Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2007 09:54 (eighteen years ago)

Is it? I didn't even see a banner. Crikey.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 09:56 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, that. Ha, it hadn't even loaded when I visited, I just scrolled down to the krautrock. Pictures of naked ladies are so boring.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 09:57 (eighteen years ago)

I have a room full of them. First time a friend came in, she thought I was lesbian. hahahaha

nathalie, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:00 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, apparently the BJM are touring England next week. I didn't even know. The most amazing thing to me was realising that I didn't actually care. Things and people slide through your life. Ten years ago, it mattered so much. Now it doesn't matter at all.

In another ten years, none of this will matter.

Why bother at all?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:02 (eighteen years ago)

Top and bottom banners on that link are both NSFW. (x-post it depends which naked ladies(nsfw), tho!)

Probably get away w/the cookie rules seeing as it's linking to another forum.

Baffled as the the motivation for that guy posting all those links, seems a bit of a wanky and egotistical thing to do to me? Downloading "paradieswarts duul" nevertheless.

Pashmina, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:05 (eighteen years ago)

Why are ppl still going on about Calum. Dude hasn't posted here in something like 2 years?

Pashmina, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:06 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks Kate! I don't dare look at the page now but it'll be in my history now so I can look at it at home. Except I won't be home til Sunday now. I wonder what the wifi reception is like in Worcester. Probably not great.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:06 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know what's with the rash of thread revivals. I suppose, thinking about it, it's kind of like a watermark of the change between old ILX and nu ILX, that old ILX could still actually be offended by dicks like Calum. These days that kind of behaviour is considered par for the course, and totally normal, even commendable or something.

When people still bothered calling out sexism on an industrial scale.

Is it ILX or is it society in general? I don't know. I don't get wound up any more, but I still twinge. When people can make statements about gender that if the same statement was applied to a race or a religion, it would never be accepted or published. But somehow it's OK to think these things about entire genders.

I just hate people. As a species. I wish the end time floods would hurry up and wash us all off the face of the planet. Enough already.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

I don't know what's with the rash of thread revivals. I suppose, thinking about it, it's kind of like a watermark of the change between old ILX and nu ILX, that old ILX could still actually be offended by dicks like Calum. These days that kind of behaviour is considered par for the course, and totally normal, even commendable or something.

Yeah, that struck me as well - Calum in full-on mode would probably cause barely a ripple if he turned up today.

When people still bothered calling out sexism on an industrial scale.

Is it ILX or is it society in general? I don't know. I don't get wound up any more, but I still twinge.

I think it's society in general. Shit was different in the '80's, but "we" lost, bigstyle. Lad culture, "loaded" and all that unbeleivably pathetic bullshit, endless bleating from reactionaries about "political correctness" et al. Swing to the right/anti-feminist backlash - It worked, unfortunately. All I can do is just not act like that myself.

Pashmina, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:16 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, but those 'offended' people are mostly still around, even posting on those threads now.

Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:18 (eighteen years ago)

Depends on how big of a habbit you have. ;-)

eh? habbit? what habbit? rabbit? i have none, habbits or rabbits. i want to wander around in the sunshine looking at stuff, drink lots of wine, eat lots of tomatoes, turn into a 14 year old boy while sy are playing, attempt to be marginally less terrified (in a good way) by kim gordon than usual, and do something nice for my hosts.

emsk, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:19 (eighteen years ago)

I'm still offended by him and his ilk. But I no longer encourage that kind of mentality by posting on the threads.

It's one of the biggest changes in myself over the past couple years, learning where my own "off" button is - if I don't respond to those kinds of people, I win.

I dunno, I was talking to F about science, and she was telling me about this article that she had read, about why science is no longer "big" in the UK etc. and it did have an interesting point, that disaffected weirdoes in former ages used to turn to science geekery, while these days disaffected weirdoes turn to pop culture for their geekery.

But she said that the author (and I'm just guessing from this that it's Patrick Moore because it seems like the sort of thing he'd say) complained that one of the problems was that there were "too many women in science these days."

Can you imagine that remark being published if he'd said "the problem is there are too many Jews in science these days" or "the problem is there are too many blacks in science these days"? It wouldn't get published. But somehow it's considered perfectly acceptable not just to hold but promote these kinds of views about women.

That really, really wound me up.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:24 (eighteen years ago)

Well, he said it, doesn't make it right or true though.

Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:27 (eighteen years ago)

Answer the question, though. Do you think the publication would have published it if he had said Jews or Blacks or Irish (or dogs) in the place of "women"?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:28 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think that is a new trend, that kind of article has never been out of certain newspapers as long as I can remember. I'm not sure society is getting worse, it's just frustrating that positive change seems to take so long. At least it seems to me that these kinds of prejudices are marginally less acceptable than 10 or 15 years ago, despite new-laddism etc. It's just too slow. Mind you saying "patience, dear, in 100 years maybe this won't be happening" isn't much help, I know.

Colonel Poo, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:31 (eighteen years ago)

Nathalie meant hobbit.

The whole nature of what constitutes geekery has changed, I think. There's been a semantic change. Words like 'geek' and 'nerd' no longer carry a burden or stigma of being outcast in the way they once did. Which makes comparisons difficult. But I can see where the article F cited is coming from and for once we can 'blame' the internet for the shift. In most cases 'blaming' the internet is a knee-jerk hurried ascription of a societal aspect to a medium when really it's been there all along and has just found a new way to express itself. However, the internet has enabled people interested in all kinds of media to feast on those media and information in a way they didn't before.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:32 (eighteen years ago)

the question, the answer, of course, is no.

Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:35 (eighteen years ago)

I wish I'd read the actual interesting, because it does sound like an interesting idea.

But I decry the lack of the whole culture of popular science. I can remember, even when I was a kid in the 70s and early 80s, that there was a culture where you would muck about with science stuff as a hobby or fun kids learning experience. Chemistry Sets and stuff like taht, the magazine "Popular Science" which would always have a section of things you could try at home.

But I suppose popular science has exploded to rapidly in development over the past 30 years that although yes, you can build your own rocket or internal combustion engine or crystal radio in your shed, the average science enthusiast doesn't have a hope in hell of building their own ... mobile phone in your own shed.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

"the more advanced science gets, the more indistinguishable it appears from magic" or whatever that quote is.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

When I was a kid, I had (among other things) a wooden rasp that made a noise when you dragged it against the tin toybox.

Therefore, when I looked closely at the grooves of a record, I could work out that the sound creation was basically the same principle.

However, being told that a CD is played by a lazer and the digital pulses are converted into sound, I have to just accept as fact.

Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:43 (eighteen years ago)

two main trends in technology - miniaturisation and falling production costs. Latter leads to falling costs to the consumer. The reason ppl built crystal sets in their sheds was coz actual proper radios used to be too expensive for most ppl to afford.

maybe the 'fun' aspects of science have gone out of science teaching in schools (and why you can't buy decent chemsitry sets for yr kids; I don't know that for a fact just guessing) coz of increased health and safety legislation and the march of the anti-vivisectionists. I cut up a rat for 'A' level biology, doubt if that's allowed now.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:44 (eighteen years ago)

Rabbits ate all of Jill's pea plants at the allotment :(

Pashmina, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:45 (eighteen years ago)

(satirical repost of that message on another thread in 5...4..) (xpost)

Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:45 (eighteen years ago)

Random thought on decline of fun popular science etc: hasn't much of this experimental/hobby/creative activity just moved from the macro physical world into the computer sphere? I mean, there are loads of individual and collaborative fun software projects going on everywhere all the time, from the useful to the destructive... Programming = inventing machines that can do anything! etc.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:54 (eighteen years ago)

Bloody rabbits! There's an article in Country Life last week about how they are TAKING OVER THE COUNTRYSIDE and, well, breeding like rabbits. And we need a good dose of myxamatosis to sort them out.

I had exactly ONE pea flower. I was so proud. It was the loveliest shade of purple. I expect the hail killed it, though.

One pea, one cornflower. It's a good thing I'm not a farmer.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 10:55 (eighteen years ago)

you never see rabbit in the supermarket anymore. which is a shame. i used to like it.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 6 July 2007 11:00 (eighteen years ago)

I blame Peter Rabbit. All those soppy bleeding heart childrens stories not realising that rabbits are HORRIBLE PESTS and should be hunted down and eaten like the vermin they are. Ha ha.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 11:01 (eighteen years ago)

Rabbit is always always at farmer's markets. I like the first few bites but then it always tastes to me like it's on the turn.

Kate is right about the 'women in science' comment - NO WAY IN HELL would P. Moore be allowed to vent any of his other reactionary views in print (and yes, he has them, esp WRT race). I guess it's OK to hold such views as an ancient upper-middle-class curmudgeon but I have always faced elderly bigots with 'ah no worries, your ignorant opinion dies when you do; please tell me what you've got is fast-acting and terminal.' I know it's OTT disrespectful, but fuck their misogyny and racism. Reminds me of the time during Riot Grrrl when J0hn Mu1v3y responded to criticism of his employers on the basis of their sexism with 'well what about racism?' What about it? I know that on television it's permissible to call a woman a bitch or a slut or a cunt or a whore or whatever but we don't tolerate racial epithets. Why is this?

There is a common meme amongst my friends which is 'you can't pole-dance your way to equality' and I LOVED when Zoe Williams wrote t'other day there was a big difference between being a feminist as opposed to a mere capitalist with tits. It's hard to hate other women for being compliant or ignorant or male-directed but I've just decided that the vast majority of the population, women included, have too much invested in traditional social models to want to change them or in fact to even know how, whether it's relationships, the ownership of property, the division of labour between men and women. I sit there watching certain social rituals with the most amazing detachment because with the tiniest examination, for me, they unravel into absurdity.

suzy, Friday, 6 July 2007 11:02 (eighteen years ago)

I'd rather ppl ate them than deliberately released a virus to kill them.

I think P Moore's detachment from academe, despite his obv erudition, is a factor in how he is able to make horrendous sexist remarks and get away with it -- the fact is that he is an *amateur* astronomer who was so good and so dedicated to astronomy that he got famous and a tv show that's been on for half a century or more, he does his bbc show then buggers off home to the telescope in his garden whereas if he was an academic researcher and lecturer who had to do his research alongside women and lecture to female students and was making his misogynist views known in that environment then ppl would be calling him on it the whole time.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 6 July 2007 11:09 (eighteen years ago)

On another topic, I wish the bloody people in my office would occasionally actually L@@K through the database and see if the report that they want ALREADY EXISTS before putting in another request to me to have such a report made.

Someone just asked for me to make a report on booking fee income. This report already exists. It's in there under the TOTALLY CLEAR AND OBVIOUS NAME of "Booking Fees Banked". How long does it take to actually click on the reports list and just page down to around "booking" instead of coming and asking my project manager to ask me to make a new report doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING?!?!?

It's not just Patrick Moore holding these stupid offensive misogynistic views (and I'm not even sure that it was him, it just sounds like something he'd say) - it's that the media feel perfectly happy to quote him and publish him saying these things without ever saying "hey, hang on a second..."

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

It's a bit like "UnPC things in an otherwise classic old film/TV show"

The perception being "OK, we'll put up with the bad stuff as on balance it's outweighed"

Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2007 11:18 (eighteen years ago)

AND ANOTHER ONE. This is coming from freaking Mighty Mouse, I know it. Maybe if you OPENED YOUR DATABASE, and looked under CONVEYANCE you would find no less then THREE REPORTS telling you all about CONVENYANCING?!?!?

Are you thick? Or just totally fucking lazy?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 11:21 (eighteen years ago)

easier to ask for a new report than look for the old one.

"woh, but it doesn't have the subtotal by..." etc.

Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2007 11:24 (eighteen years ago)

It wasn't even about the subtotals by whatever. He didn't even look.

I mean, if any of you lot wanted to know how many cases with conveyance on them had completed, wouldn't your first thought to be to open a report called CONVEYANCECOMPLETIONS ?

I mean, you don't even need an MBA to figure that out, do you?

You don't even need to know what conveyancing is, or what a completion is to figure out that a report called ConveyanceCompletions would be about them. Right? Isn't that what logic is for?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 11:27 (eighteen years ago)

Oh Kate, at this point LOGIC and REASON might as well only be music programmes. Perhaps if they were minding what's on their computers instead of what's on your browser...:D.

I know a science curmudgeon of similar vintage who gets around his loftiness by airily saying he's better than everyone regardless of class, gender or race (incidentally is not a racist and has done more for women than the majority of feminists). His wife then tells him he can get his own tea.

suzy, Friday, 6 July 2007 11:29 (eighteen years ago)

"Ello luv, stick t' kettle on and I'll initiate an equal pay structure at our place. Blimey, I'm great"

Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2007 11:31 (eighteen years ago)

OK, conflicting reports and rumours about this festival get weirder and weirder. I'm now not sure it's entirely legal. And having nightmares about getting stranded by myself in a field in Cornwall when the police swoop in to break it up.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 11:44 (eighteen years ago)

Kate, I need a report on the number of reports, when they were requested, and how often they are used. kthxbye

mitya, Friday, 6 July 2007 12:07 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone know if that Soulsavers & Mark Lanegan is any good? They are playing in a muddy field around the corner this evening.

nathalie, Friday, 6 July 2007 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

Yes! go! (I'm going tomorrow for iLiKETRAiNS and Mogwai & shit)

StanM, Friday, 6 July 2007 12:14 (eighteen years ago)

( four tracks here: http://www.myspace.com/soulsavers )

StanM, Friday, 6 July 2007 12:16 (eighteen years ago)

Mitya, I know you're joking, but there is already a report on that.

(OK, I haven't updated it in about 6 months, but it does exist.)

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 12:24 (eighteen years ago)

God i hate C0mp@ny Direct0rs, is there a more thick and lazy breed?

leigh, Friday, 6 July 2007 12:38 (eighteen years ago)

Indeed. Creme floats to the top. But so does shit.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 12:41 (eighteen years ago)

Should I maybe try Starbucks carrot cake now, to ascertain that it is, indeed, probably shite?

I WANT CAFE DON QUIJOTE CARROT CAKE!!!

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 12:54 (eighteen years ago)

There should be some sort of test for prospective directors. It's far too easy for thick as pigshit numptieheads to set one up then expect poorly paid civil servants like me to give a shit when they get all their statutory filing messed up through their ignorance of what's required.

leigh, Friday, 6 July 2007 12:59 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

that makes my joke even better, doesn't it, k8?

5:05pm and i am considering sneaking out. just can't be bothered today (not that there's really much to do anyway).

mitya, Friday, 6 July 2007 13:05 (eighteen years ago)

TWO POUNDS!!! For £2, I expect a solid gold carrot cake with platinum shavings on top.

It comes with more packaging than cake.

And it tastes... slightly burned.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)

...and a frankly bizarre aftertaste of orange marmalade. WTF?

Though they do get points for moistness. Not as good as Pret's. But better than the pale pasty dry thing I got at the local caff.

Why was I forced to move away from the gold standard of carrot cake that was Cafe Don Quijote?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 13:12 (eighteen years ago)

Yes! go! (I'm going tomorrow for iLiKETRAiNS and Mogwai & shit)

can't you find that in ghent? ;-)

okay, i'll tell my husband to go. i'm staying in. tomorrow i have to work, otherwise we could have, like met and shit. :-)

stevienixed, Friday, 6 July 2007 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

Ugh! Ugh! Ugh!

The weird orange marmalade flavour is coming FROM TEH ICING.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Carrot cake icing should taste of cream cheese. This tastes of butter and orange marmalade.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 13:16 (eighteen years ago)

so did you have a starbuxors one? i'm confused.

stevienixed, Friday, 6 July 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

:-) (xxpost)

StanM, Friday, 6 July 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, I got a Starfucks one. It was expensive and slightly disappointing.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

All I ask out of life is a good carrot cake, strong coffee, krautrock downloads on demand, effects pedals and hott dronerock boys. Is that really so hard to deliver?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 13:23 (eighteen years ago)

It still baffles me how much some people are addicted to Starbucks.

nathalie, Friday, 6 July 2007 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

(I say this after discovering a gazillion ME ADDICKTED TO STARBUXXXX groups on FaceBook)

nathalie, Friday, 6 July 2007 13:48 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, I'm not bothered about Starbucks coffee at all. I made mine own. I just went in search of carrot cake. And now I know, it's expensive and not worth it.

Full Truck line-up announced... wow, what they've done is get rid of every female artist who's not actually *on* Truck. Well done lads.

Why do I notice this kind of thing?

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 13:51 (eighteen years ago)

I should just give up. I should just call it quits and stop caring.

But without the music, I mean, really, my life is a fucking wasteground. I would really have to accept failure, then.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

Don't give up.

Hi everybody! Today's my last day in the states; am flying back to yookay overnight tonight. Two weeks+ is too long of a visit. Am ready to be back (especially because once I get back I have maximum words to write in minimum time. Fun!). I did purchase my WEDDING SUIT while home, which was sort of my top goal.

G00blar, Friday, 6 July 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

Further sign I may have stayed home so long I have gone crazy: this morning, whilst stretching, I inadvertently made a dolphin sound. This amused me to no end.

G00blar, Friday, 6 July 2007 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

Your clothes of wedding, v. nice.

Hmmm. Can I go home?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 July 2007 15:50 (eighteen years ago)

It's like 9am there! I've heard of summer fridays, but this is a bit much, no?

G00blar, Friday, 6 July 2007 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

It's VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRY slow at work.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 July 2007 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

It was, wasn't it?

Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

Ouch. TIME ZONE ZING!

G00blar, Friday, 6 July 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

Amazing!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 July 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

This train is amazing. Double deck with wee lifts so the drinks trolley can get betweem levels and the tv screens tell me we are travelling at 161km/h.

Ed, Friday, 6 July 2007 16:31 (eighteen years ago)

Everyone else has gone home, the office has been taken over by builders assembling things right next to my desk. Should I hang out here for another half hour and do nothing?

Maybe I should go round Plan B Towers and see if F can get off early and drink some beer before dinner. Or she might be setting a bad example for the staff if I turn up with a 6-pack.

I'm not even supposed to be drinking. I just want to go home and not think about tomorrow and anniversaries and things like that. :-(

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 16:52 (eighteen years ago)

I wanna go to Plan B Towers, if only because I know what it's actually like now.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 July 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

I'm @ my house, d/l'in 50 krock zipps!!!

Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2007 16:56 (eighteen years ago)

That reminds me, I need to put the Kraut I downloaded onto the Big Stick to take home.

I think I need to try a different Popul Vuh album but I've hit my limit of free downloads for the day. :-(

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

i gotta monthworth, got the harmonia and the first cosmic jokers one.

where next? I got most of kraftw/faust/neu anyroad.

got to be la duss I reckon

Mark G, Friday, 6 July 2007 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

La duss has been rocking my world recently, especially as I can now play spacezouki like them.

It is not rude to turn up at plan b towers with beer, so long as you bring enough for everyone and possibly some crisps as well.

Ed, Friday, 6 July 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

I cannot afford to buy beer for all of Paln B Towers. Just me and F coz we are the girls.

Also, I have been searching for this article, for ages, and Ampy just reposted the link. I want this article tattooed on my heart, word for word:

http://web.archive.org/web/20031002042645/http://www.punkplanet.com/archives/00000004.html

Except you can take out "emo" and plug in pretty much every genre of genre rock today.

Does that wine shop on Leather Lane sell good beer? Trying to think where there is on the way to get ale.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 6 July 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

Article cuts out for me:

Jawbox�s most popular song, �Savory� was about recognizing male normative p

Totally right on up to then though.

G00blar, Friday, 6 July 2007 17:22 (eighteen years ago)

Now I know I am in a civilised country. A recycling bin in the hotel room.

Ed, Friday, 6 July 2007 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

Where are you?

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

Having read the thread, I'd hazard a guess at Tampere. Amirite?

ailsa, Friday, 6 July 2007 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

welcome to the working week

mitya, Monday, 9 July 2007 05:59 (eighteen years ago)

oh, I know it won't thrill you..

Mark G, Monday, 9 July 2007 08:33 (eighteen years ago)

I am craving for some major sugar load as well as LOADS OF VERONICA MARS. Gawd, I'm hooked.
Also, migraine attacks suck big time.

nathalie, Monday, 9 July 2007 08:36 (eighteen years ago)

morning! lush weekend... i cannot tell you how delighted i was to find that everyone in rome REALLY DOES ride around on a moped and the guys REALLY DO go "ciao... bella..." when a girl walks past them and there are REAL LIFE NUNS just wandering around the streets and and and wow wow wow.

could never live there though, srsly i could NOT take the pace. everything takes about eighteen times as long as it needs to (except the yummy food which comes exactly when you want it).

and SUNSHINE, wow, little explosions going off in my skin.

and SONIC YOOF in the ruins of a fuckin 2000 year old amphitheatre - this mofo:

http://p.vtourist.com/692052-AMPHITHEATRE_IN_OSTIA_ANTICA-Ostia_Antica.jpg

AMAZING. did not want to leave.

emsk, Monday, 9 July 2007 08:43 (eighteen years ago)

God, it's quiet today!

Mark G, Monday, 9 July 2007 09:32 (eighteen years ago)

yes, it's because everyone is coming back from t in the park.

emsk, Monday, 9 July 2007 09:39 (eighteen years ago)

or, that's why it's quiet here, anyway.

emsk, Monday, 9 July 2007 09:40 (eighteen years ago)

ROMA!

G00blar, Monday, 9 July 2007 09:44 (eighteen years ago)

argh! Had a 'hoobs' flash back there!

Mark G, Monday, 9 July 2007 09:47 (eighteen years ago)

ROMA

YEH SRSLY...

emsk, Monday, 9 July 2007 09:52 (eighteen years ago)

Totally jealous--of the concert obviously, but I feel the same way about Rome: a wonderful, crazy, out-of-this-world place, but I couldn't live there. Everything full-on all of the time, SO BIG, total chaos etc.

G00blar, Monday, 9 July 2007 10:01 (eighteen years ago)

I hate Rome. I got an amoeba there when I was young and nearly died. And have hated the place ever since. Despite being obsessed with Latin and ancient Roman culture. Go figure.

I have a headache. I think it's a sugar hangover from spending my weekend in bed eating ice cream like Brian Wilson.

In the end, F was the only person at Plan B towers so we drank all the beer and ate all the curry and listened to A Sunny Day In Glasgow (worst band name ever, best music ever) and it was all good.

Ed, are you back yet? I have a drawing for you.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 9 July 2007 10:19 (eighteen years ago)

Remind us who the concert was again?

Funny, part of the reason I was/am so grumpy about vacation is because friends of mine from NY were in Italy through the weekend and they wanted me to meet them.

The scooters are the best part of Rome, IMO.

mitya, Monday, 9 July 2007 10:22 (eighteen years ago)

Remind us who the concert was again?

are you taking the piss or not? i can never tell.

emsk, Monday, 9 July 2007 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

Ha ha, Ed is really going to regret asking me to draw him, now he's been made poster boy:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1099/759879391_2681c30908.jpg

Dreamlocks are the most fun thing to draw in the world, ever.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 9 July 2007 10:42 (eighteen years ago)

Ack! Forced to scroll up!

Sonic Youth?

(When in doubt, assume that I am deathly serious.)

mitya, Monday, 9 July 2007 10:49 (eighteen years ago)

Oh no! up-scrolling!

Masonic Boom, Monday, 9 July 2007 10:55 (eighteen years ago)

Deamlocks?

What on earth is a dreamlock?

Sometimes I swear English isn't my first language. :-(

Masonic Boom, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:00 (eighteen years ago)

Tremendous, tremendous flyer.

G00blar, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:01 (eighteen years ago)

kate i just had indie carrot cake, from pain du jour on goodge st, it is teh num.

emsk, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:08 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, but num in what way? How moist is it? What kind of strange things have been put in it? What is the icing like? I am a connaisseur of carrot cake. If that's how you spell it, which is probably isn't because I can't even spell in English, let alone French.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:10 (eighteen years ago)

Nope, you spelled carrot cake correctly.

G00blar, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:12 (eighteen years ago)

And after all that, I didn't even go and look at the hot French men in tight shorts. What is wrong with me?

OK, several tourbusses full of hot French men in tight shorts drove up the A23, with a full escort of police cars and other cars carrying all their bicycles behind them, preventing me from crossing the road for a good few minutes. And I figured that was enough for me.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:16 (eighteen years ago)

Home, i love the picture a lot. I am bouncy, tired, the sun is shining, nothing is wrong with the world.

Ed, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:17 (eighteen years ago)

You freak. ;-)

Actually, little seems wrong with the world when I am listening to A Sunny Day In Glasgow. But it kind of removes all my desire to make music, because someone has already made the album I would have made.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:19 (eighteen years ago)

At work for a couple of hours then I shall slope off and enjoy the sunshine.

Ed, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:20 (eighteen years ago)

Ack! Forced to scroll up!

Sonic Youth?

(When in doubt, assume that I am deathly serious.)

sorry! i feel like i've been banging on about it for MONTHS so i thought you were being sarky...

it is moist yet satisfyingly crumbly - if you gather up some fallen crumbs and squish it together between thumb and forefinger you get a delicious melty thing - and well spiced, and has actual bits of carrot in it. the icing tastes like sugar and butter and sugar and something tangy and sugar. it tastes as though it might have been made in a kitchen rather than a factory.

emsk, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:27 (eighteen years ago)

Butter? The icing should taste like cream cheese. Other than that, the moistness sounds good.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:29 (eighteen years ago)

The flyer looks great!

We got some good music recording done @ the weekend, also I bought a brush cutter from B&Q & cleared loads of weeds at the allotment, which was pretty great.

There was a dedication ceremony for a new war memorial that's been built in the village - 2 guys from the village scored VCs in WW1, apparently. All the old soldiers from the village who'd been in WW2 and Korea were there, weirdly moving to see them all.

It was a pretty good weekend, all in all.

Pashmina, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:31 (eighteen years ago)

no, i love butter. i have only really understood this in the last 2 years or so.

emsk, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:32 (eighteen years ago)

Ack! Speaking of concerts, I totally forgot - I saw Primal Scream this weekend! (Not a good sign, is it?)

Bobby looks FANtastic, but he was completely disinterested in us. (When you're got the V Festival coming up, maybe 1,000 people in an overcast park in Russia probably hardly seems worth the trouble.

Which Scream song is like jazz, more interesting to play than watch?

mitya, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:35 (eighteen years ago)

I saw the photos on yr Flickr. Send Kevin Shields back to us, pls, we miss him at Sonic Cathedrals. I am surprised that Bobby didn't enjoy playing in Russia seeing how much he loves Communism and all that crap. Heh.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:37 (eighteen years ago)

He was actually thinking of a way to seduce Kate Moss. Now that she has dumped Petester.

nathalie, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:39 (eighteen years ago)

He's already been there. Eeeuuuuuw.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:41 (eighteen years ago)

lol - googling "katy england" comes up with lots of kate moss pictures

mitya, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:46 (eighteen years ago)

xpost so he knows what he's (not) missing. B ut did he really? I thght they just did a duet.

nathalie, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:52 (eighteen years ago)

considering the states they were both probably in, he may not remember ;)

mitya, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)

They are both drug sluts, I am sure it has happened. But then again, do I really care?

Was just looking at Bobby G's wedding photos and wondering what on EARTH I ever saw in the man. Need to watch early JAMC videos again to understand, I think.

Oh yeah, Douglas Hart's new band played last night, they were actually incredibly good.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 9 July 2007 11:56 (eighteen years ago)

Oh god, Existential angst is like an infectious disease. I thought I had finally shaken it, but I passed it on to two friends of mine - and now they are re-infecting me. Argh.

I have nothing to do at work today, which isn't helping. :-(

Masonic Boom, Monday, 9 July 2007 12:14 (eighteen years ago)

want to answer some of my emails?

emsk, Monday, 9 July 2007 12:35 (eighteen years ago)

I have enough emails of mine own to answer, and already in trouble for email this week. :-(

Masonic Boom, Monday, 9 July 2007 13:04 (eighteen years ago)

A blonde friend of mine was passing by a well-known studio place in Whoreditch when it was raining; she is model thin and was wearing a mahoosive parka and suddenly this scraggly guy goes "Kate!" and grabs her into an alleyway, hugging her. She knew the Scotsman in question so was not shocked, but as his assignation was interrupted, HE was.

suzy, Monday, 9 July 2007 13:26 (eighteen years ago)

lolz

mitya, Monday, 9 July 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

Yaaaaars, we had a very, very interesting conversation about what 'rock wives' put up with, especially the rock wife of the Scotsman (not only does this person turn a blind eye to assignations, she does the most popular girl's homework for her, if you know what I'm saying!)

suzy, Monday, 9 July 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

I don't even want to *think* about what that means in this case.

mitya, Monday, 9 July 2007 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

"Got any homework you need doing before youse go to bed?"

?

Mark G, Monday, 9 July 2007 13:52 (eighteen years ago)

Haha Mitya that time there was no innuendo, just another case of someone getting a shitload of money to do a particular job and getting their 'best friend' to do all the erm, gruntwork. Wonder what the hubby was doing when wifey was at her mannequin?

suzy, Monday, 9 July 2007 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

Which Scream song is like jazz, more interesting to play than watch?

If they move kill em? I love that song.

Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 9 July 2007 14:05 (eighteen years ago)

What instrument do you play on it?

Mark G, Monday, 9 July 2007 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

'Tis not "If They Move Kill 'Em"

I would play it on bass, but that's just my preference.Some people would like the guitar part.

mitya, Monday, 9 July 2007 14:28 (eighteen years ago)

I think I may be becoming addicted to ice cream. I just had to go and have a magnum double caramel.

Masonic Boom, Monday, 9 July 2007 14:44 (eighteen years ago)

Waaaah, collarbones...

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o125/wonderandlust/The%20Secret%20Machines/4-1.jpg

Masonic Boom, Monday, 9 July 2007 14:52 (eighteen years ago)

Swhirly music:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/21171554@N00/767990774/"; title="Photo Sharing"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1044/767990774_c5248c300f.jpg"; width="334" height="500" alt="Dirty World Colour" /></a>

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:06 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, fuck it. Click the link.

My boss has given up trying to manage my workload. She's just chucked everything over into my inbox. Suckage. :-(

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:08 (eighteen years ago)

"Image currently unavailable"

Mark G, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:13 (eighteen years ago)

IT'S A GODDAMN MUTHAFUCKING SWHIRLY, WHAT DO YOU THINK IT IS?!?!?

FREAKING FLICKR, I HATE IT!!! ARRGGGGHHHH!!!

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1044/767990774_c5248c300f.jpg

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:14 (eighteen years ago)

I wonder if the band that couldn't play on Sunday will actually be able to put everyone on the guest list for the show tonight. I hope so. I actually kinda wanted to go to the Bella Union festival show thing anyway. But I thought I'd see them in a smaller venue first. And then they couldn't play. So it would work out nicely if I ended up on the guest list for the RFH.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:21 (eighteen years ago)

k8 is that beach house? i am playing their myspazz right now. they sound like my morning jacket. i am going to the rfh gig.

emsk, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:23 (eighteen years ago)

k8 u have mail

emsk, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:24 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, it was Beach House (though the picture is of the support band, Sian Alice Group, who were amazing.) They had massive technical problems at the Social (quelle surprise) and so they said that if we put our names down, we could go to the RFH gig instead. I put my name down, but the list was, like, 25 people or more, so I hope they can get us all in.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:25 (eighteen years ago)

I'm currently completely utterly addicted to Veronica Mars. We both watched two eps last night, but after he left, I watched the last two (of season 1). I feel like a 15 year old teenager because I swooooon when I see Veronica and Logan together. I mean, shit, he's Andrew McCarthy with a (annoying looking) white bone necklace. If I had my way, I'd watch the entire next season ALL IN ONE FUCKING GO. Considering he didn't like me watching those last two eps on my own, I will not attempt to do this.

Also, I has me a headache. :-(

nathalie, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:26 (eighteen years ago)

I had a headache, too. I've had it for days. Annoying.

I feel like I'm missing a whole world of crushing through not having a telly. Or maybe not.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:28 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, it's not Buffy by any means (though I love it enormously for different reasons). I stopped watching CSI completely. When I do watch a rerun(or even a new ep) then I dispise it simple moralistic stance. This is probably why I like The Wire (more) at the moment.

Maybe it's something in the air. /phil collins

nathalie, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:35 (eighteen years ago)

Aaaah, I just heard there's a new forensic mystery program coming. Except the forensic dude IS a serial killer in his spare time. That's just... wow. I want to watch it. Now if only he were a VAMPIRE forensic serial killer. Then it would be like CSI: Forever Knight. That's a crossover that has yet to be done.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:41 (eighteen years ago)

sorry, i just came.

I mean, shit, I would watch that program on multiple reruns.

Also, I can't keep this out of my head.

nathalie, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 09:45 (eighteen years ago)

It really bugs me when people are certain that no one else understands how they do what they do, especially when part of your job is to tell them that what they've done, they haven't done correctly. When you think you're giving me the "Do I have to explain EVERYTHING to you" look, understand that in my language it actually "please strangle me NOW"

mitya, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

Um, I don't think I've understood that correctly. I'm not being funny. What's going on?

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 12:19 (eighteen years ago)

OK, so much for that stupid regulation.

I went to go and eat my lunch elsewhere... the "lunchroom" was totally full. With horrible conslutants. The breakout areas were full of people having meetings. I ended up back at my desk - only to find that everyone in finance are all eating their hot, smelly foods at THEIR desks.

Sod this wandering about the office at lunchtime lark. :-( I thought it wouldn't last long.

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 12:32 (eighteen years ago)

another quiet day?

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:08 (eighteen years ago)

so... sleepy... this morning...

emsk, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:12 (eighteen years ago)

I can't stop yawning today.

I'm sure it's annoying the hell out of my colleagues.

treefell, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:30 (eighteen years ago)

oh good not just me then.
i have attained banana and coffee and croissant which is helping
nf just pinched half the coffee grr

emsk, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:40 (eighteen years ago)

bella union do was good last night, not very full though. my latest novel have got 50x better than they used to be, both at writing songs and performing them, and they were ace already.

emsk, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:46 (eighteen years ago)

I went to see tSDoLE last night and really quite enjoyed them. I probably wouldn't have bothered if various Watercooler people hadn't gone on about them, so thanks for doing so.

aldo, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:51 (eighteen years ago)

hurrah!
i need to see them again...
i have got the new broken family band album. it seems they have grown up :/ bizarre... it's really really good though.

emsk, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 09:55 (eighteen years ago)

I have the new TSDOLE album at home but I've been too distracted to listen to it.

Ed, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 10:02 (eighteen years ago)

TSDOLE are playing on Thursday I think. Someone is opening for them who I'm supposed to pay attention, too. At the Metro? There's a million good shows on Thursday - Marnie Stern at Bardens, Chrome Hoof at the 100 Club.

I probably won't end up going to any of them. I seem to have a hard time enjoying things at the moment. It's the depression, I know it. Even when something is really beautiful, it just makes me feel alone and sad.

I should get some coffee.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 10:10 (eighteen years ago)

...OK, if there's gonna be no one around here today, then I'm just going to take my depression off the interweb. It isn't very good for me.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 10:30 (eighteen years ago)

It's one more quiet day on the ILX place.

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 10:30 (eighteen years ago)

Work is not being conducive to slacking off right now.

Ed, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 10:31 (eighteen years ago)

Just waking up. Groggy.

G00blar, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 10:37 (eighteen years ago)

Mr G00blar, are you coming to the gig on tuesday?

Ed, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 10:38 (eighteen years ago)

HUMAN TETRIS

xpost, yes, I believe so.

G00blar, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 10:39 (eighteen years ago)

Excellent, I have someone would like to speak to you about Phds and that.

Ed, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 10:40 (eighteen years ago)

Nice!

G00blar, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 10:41 (eighteen years ago)

The search for the perfect carrot cake continues. Today - Salad Factory - "Kate's Cakes" Carrot and Orange.

Quite thick-tasting. Nicey grainy quality, and I can feel the carrots in my teeth. Just on the right side of the dry/moist divide. But icing TOO SWEET and way too orangey.

They have two different varieties of carrot cakes, so I'll try the other one tomorrow. It is the "carrot loaf" which claims to have hints of spices, so despite not having icing, it might be nicer.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)

have you investigated Konditor and Cook yet? They have many many good cakes including a very very good chocolate and raspberry tart.

Ed, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 13:14 (eighteen years ago)

Where is Conditor and Cook?

So far Kate's Cakes is a front runner - and not just for the name. The texture is so lovely. On reading the ingredients, I realised it was not just the carrot that was nice and crunchewy but also ground up orange zest. Lovely. If it were a bit more cinnamonny and the icing less sweet and more cream cheesey, it would be perfect.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

Bottom of Grays inn rd so a little walk, but well worth it.

Ed, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

Bottom of Grays Inn Road (as in South end) is about 50 yards from this building. Wonder why I haven't seen it?

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

you have to walk past snow and rock, the bagel place and the key cutting place, so not right at the bottom.

Ed, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 13:29 (eighteen years ago)

But not all the way up to Theobalds Road? Still close. Maybe I will walk by there on the way to rehearsal. But then again, it will probably be closed, and you have FULE.

Argh, after saying I want to concentrate more on illustration and art, suddenly I find myself signing up to do loads of writing.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, Jesus...

depression often involves pushing people away, because they dont seem to care, so, you know, fuck them anyway...

(anyway, when people push you away, theyre really asking you to do the opposite a lot of the time, to show you actually give a fuck)

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

Lotta people be guessing.

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 15:54 (eighteen years ago)

it's not a guess, it's so true it makes me physically feel like throwing up. :-(

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

It's strange, this place has taught me more about 'd' that I can sort of recognise it more. Things where I could take more to heart previously, now I can rationalise things better. Suppose I didn't suffer it myself but was close to someone who did, and it affected me? not exactly the clinical definition, but feeling like everyone needs help and not being able to supply, and feeling almost suic about that!

(gibberishly typed on purpose)

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270142196831&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:uk

and no, I don't have that. Nor am I likely to sadly.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 12 July 2007 02:19 (eighteen years ago)

it's not a guess, it's so true it makes me physically feel like throwing up. :-(

the impossible difficult thing is, recognizing what's going on and trying to stop yourself from pushing people away. unfortunately there are few things so unattractive as a needy person...

in other news, i went a whole day without coffee and was quite proud of myself (a calm mitya is a happy mitya). but i couldn't stop myself today, even though the coffee in the office is terrible and we don't have any cream.

mitya, Thursday, 12 July 2007 05:31 (eighteen years ago)

quiet day part three.

Mark G, Thursday, 12 July 2007 09:25 (eighteen years ago)

Indeed it is.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 12 July 2007 10:06 (eighteen years ago)

I'm just off out to the fancy dress shop to get supplies for the 'take band names literally' party tomorrow night. Funz0r!

emil.y, Thursday, 12 July 2007 10:12 (eighteen years ago)

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b356/olem/frodogandalf.jpg

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 12 July 2007 10:29 (eighteen years ago)

methinks the fascist regime is inhibiting k8tzor's access to the interwebs.

we *finally* have a warm, no hot day here in moscow, for the first time since that freakish week in april. it was so nice to get outside and feel that, even for a few minutes.

mitya, Thursday, 12 July 2007 10:47 (eighteen years ago)

And if you don't get something you like you're going as Ghost?
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Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 12 July 2007 10:57 (eighteen years ago)

ooh that rhymes!

Mark G, Thursday, 12 July 2007 11:04 (eighteen years ago)

Hehehe, yes, Ghost is the back-up plan. But it was suprisingly painless and I think we've got everything we need now.

emil.y, Thursday, 12 July 2007 11:22 (eighteen years ago)

Cannibal Corpse? Zombi?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 12 July 2007 11:24 (eighteen years ago)

Nope. Not telling until after the party. I will link to pics if we don't look too stupid.

Ones we thought of but didn't use: Supertramp, Gogol Bordello, of Montreal, Panda Bear...

emil.y, Thursday, 12 July 2007 11:29 (eighteen years ago)

Is it twee?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 12 July 2007 11:37 (eighteen years ago)

Noooooooo...

emil.y, Thursday, 12 July 2007 11:38 (eighteen years ago)

Your fascination with twee, kerr, reminds me a little bit of those people who are always obsessed with exposing Gays, only for it to be eventually revealed that they themselves are gay.

mitya, Thursday, 12 July 2007 11:40 (eighteen years ago)

queens of the Stone Age would have been a good one. Or wou;d that be too obv?

Mark G, Thursday, 12 July 2007 11:41 (eighteen years ago)

Is mitya coming on to me?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 12 July 2007 11:48 (eighteen years ago)

victorian english gentlemens club

emsk, Thursday, 12 July 2007 11:49 (eighteen years ago)

Queens of the Stone Age has just the right amount of ease coupled with good imagery, so that would be good. VEGC would be rather spiffing also.

And yes, mitya is coming on to you, Kerr - he wants to skip through the fields singing Belle & Sebastian songs and eating ice cream with you.

emil.y, Thursday, 12 July 2007 11:52 (eighteen years ago)

But don't be too flattered, he wants to do that with everyone.

G00blar, Thursday, 12 July 2007 11:55 (eighteen years ago)

If I were going to emil.y's party, I'd dress as the jam.

G00blar, Thursday, 12 July 2007 12:06 (eighteen years ago)

As a jar of preserve or as a member of Phish?

emil.y, Thursday, 12 July 2007 12:09 (eighteen years ago)

The first.

G00blar, Thursday, 12 July 2007 12:10 (eighteen years ago)

*fingers crossed*

G00blar, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:21 (eighteen years ago)

Mitya's asked you out for ice cream and twee-pop?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 12 July 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

Well, in the continuing saga of my co-worker... Now that his departure date is set for September 7, *his* *vacation* is set for August 20-31, I find him once again taking on freelance editing work (and thus, when he gets near their deadlines and doesn't have someone breathing down his neck about his work here) not doing the work he is paid his salary for.

And while I appreciate his "commitment" to his work, it's the pressure of multiple commitments that has driven him to at least one of his recent breakdowns. The logic, I guess, is that in freelance work he is making a *personal* commitment to his client/employer, whereas he doesn't feel that personal connection as an employee (which is super-fucked-up given the ratio between what we pay him and what he gets for freelance editing).

I am so ready to see the back of all this.

mitya, Friday, 13 July 2007 06:15 (eighteen years ago)

*still crossed*

G00blar, Friday, 13 July 2007 08:30 (eighteen years ago)

You're going as Liars?

anatol_merklich, Friday, 13 July 2007 09:49 (eighteen years ago)

It is time...

UK Watercooler 28: A Bit Of A Blur

Masonic Boom, Friday, 13 July 2007 10:14 (eighteen years ago)


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