Is this the worst (britishes) summer ever?

sheeeeeit, my folks are going to that part of oxfordshire today!

i think it's the worst summer ever, yep.

We had a vaguely satisfying group rant about it on the 'another hot summer' thread yesterday. But yeah, it's the worst I can remember.

I can't recall a worse one. Still plenty of time for it to piss down in August, too, yet.

i like it. it's still warm yet not so sunny that i get burnt quickly. also, storms are cool.

TRUCK fest is off.

http://www.nme.com/news//29821

(and the fourth wettest ever)
as in since 1908 or what?

that unusual April heatwave seems a long time ago. last Summer was mega-hot but i read somewhere it was only the hottest since 1998 or something - it will probably end up being the hottest this decade tho.

gloriously random

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42463000/gif/_42463752_rainfall3_416x251.gif

wow august 2004 was some shit huh?

I remember August 2004 sucking enormously.

possibly the best month of my life.

I can't remember anything at all about August 2004.

Oh, that's because I was watching Olympics a lot. Don't remember particularly crappy weather?

i moved house, don't remember it being partic hot. whereas august 2003 was the hottest i can remember it being, ever. anyhoo: YES britishes summer weather be random, but this summer has been unusually consistent in its shittiness.

as in since 1908 or what?

Since 1914, apparently. Obviously this isn't as bad as the ice age.

At least you're not having the ZITTIEST summer ever.

I think the Britishes might have had other things on their minds in 1914.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curragh_Incident

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_Alliance_(1914)

I was visiting a friend in London in June and they shut down the Circle line for an entire weekend. Friend seemed to think it was to repair heat damage. Melting tracks?? Really?

Top five wettest years in England in my life : 2000, 2002, 1998, 1999, 1974. The first six months of this year put it on target to come top.

Top five hottest years in England in my life: 2006, 1990, 2002, 1999, 2003. The first six months of this year also put it on target to come top.

Seems like it's getting hotter and wetter. This is the worst combination. No barbecues, no fun, just humidity. I'd happily take a bit of a cold summer if it was sunny all the time.

i wish people would stop saying britishes

/\ typical british reaction

It took me 11 hours to get from Wiltshire to Leicestershire yesterday (taking in a stop for some quite decent chinese food in Swanage) so it could have been worse. Also I saw the man from Bargain Hunt in the chinese restaurant so all was not lost.

That should be Wantage.

Not Swanage.

this has definitely made moving to chicago much, much easier. and then some.

It's all the fucking pagans fault.

spoke to parents in Tewkesbury today. worst they can remember it (no doubt not helped because they built an asda and several housing estates on the flood plain, duh!). brother slept in car on friday night because he couldn't get home from work.

basement flat here (W12) got flooded out as well, high water mark is 1/4 of the way up the back door. similar scenes all up the street, at least those houses with basement flats.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44014000/jpg/_44014086_glo_sun_aerial.jpg

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44014000/jpg/_44014078_worcs_sun_caravansfloat.jpg

I;m really hoping the witch downstairs is going to get flooded out, but SE24 remains dry.

I am leaving for two weeks walking and camping in pembrokeshire on friday. Wish me luck.

friday = wednesday

i have sung in that abbey 8) big centre page spread in todays guardian taken from the other side. (airspace above tewkesbury must be full of helicopters what with photographers and rescue choppers)

and why are so many caravans caught up in the flood? they are on wheels.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,,-6806361,00.html

The three months from May to July have been the wettest on record even before July is over, the Met Office has revealed.

Figures show that 387.6mm of rain have already fallen across England and Wales, making it the wettest May to July since records began in 1766.

...and still it rains... :-(

This flooding is God's punishment on Britain for having too many caravans. It's true! He told me so.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=4583

so is this the end of the rain

(actually looking further north of britain the rain makes a comeback this weekend so "no")

So....

2007: unusually hot April, followed by three months of torrential rain and huge floods

2011: the hottest April ever (probably - http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/apr/24/april-warmest-britain-sun), followed by...?

The last couple of weeks have been absolutely fantastic and I've loved it. I just thought I should put that on record because I've been moaning about crap English summers for the last four years.

I'm considering buying a dehumidifier on Wednesday, so it'll probably be a complete washout from here until September.

Yeah, past 3-4 years have been blazing in April or May, then rained through the summer. Almost ready to think it is our new ~climate pattern~ but I'm sure that's a little premature as yet.

(I am a wimp and don't like anything above about 28 degrees, so if we do get a hotter summer than this I am going to be grumpy as hell all over ILX)

i've been thinking along the lines of yr first sentence meself

yr second sentence can do one tho

Britain's new climate pattern = "we don't know what the weather's going to be like from one week to the next" = Britain's old climate pattern

It's been very wet recently. Just saying.

it was the best april ever, though. and may was very good. im quietly confident.

I don't mind the rain. The post-rain humidity is pretty obnoxious, though.

It's a bit better today. I think people exaggerate the shitness of summers anyway. everyone seems to say that we get a great april and may and always a bad summer now but it's not really true. there was a heatwave for about 3 weeks in June last year, hottest Wimbledon ever etc. I don't remember any shortage of hot days last year.

It's been pretty warm despite the heavy showers.

I'm OK with this tbh. But that's cos I am with spacecadet:

(I am a wimp and don't like anything above about 28 degrees, so if we do get a hotter summer than this I am going to be grumpy as hell all over ILX)

Manchester has been disgusting. Dunno how much worse than the rest of the country it is but fuck this town

try living in fucking scotland

I don't think I'll be doing that, no.

I have cycled more miles in the rain in June than in the rest of the year put together. Haven't actually minded it that much but I would rather like it to stay blissfully sunny for the next week or so. A wet Glastonbury is an overrated thing.

21-23 degrees, chance of a shower, sunny spells = perfect summer.

fair point, cozen, but manchester cf. glasgow does have similar or slightly worse avg. rainfall stats apr-aug

personally my view is the hotter the better, i like absolutely scorching weather, it makes me feel alive.

rainy/hot/rainy/hot/rainy/hot

I like it this way

sorry that should read rainy/hot/rainy/hot/rainy/hot/rainy

apols vasco, wasn't aiming any ire at anyone in partic, just frustrated w/~rain~

a proper summer would be nice

i think the stop-start shit is what i hate most - either RAIN or DON'T RAIN stop fucking us around with bright blue skies one minute and torrents the next

makes it impossible to plan a damn thing

emerged from my bathroom into the hall just now, was pitch fucking dark. thought it was the apocalypse.

i'm with LG - hotter the better. if it's too hot, do less.

but the rain cools you off when you're hot! Then the sun dries you out when you're wet!
also it smells good after it rains when it's hot. Actually usually it does, it just smells like sewers in east London.

hit by a little June hail there. Lovely.

I think people exaggerate the shitness of summers anyway. everyone seems to say that we get a great april and may and always a bad summer now but it's not really true. there was a heatwave for about 3 weeks in June last year

Yeah, 2007 was the only complete washout, the last few years have seen some good weather at times in June or July. My problem is that (working in education) I have to have my holiday in August and August has been wet and grey and shite for the last four years running.

I don't care about the temperature (within reason), I just like sunshine. A sunny day at 22C is far better than a rainy day at 30C. If we have to have rain (apparently plants and reservoirs need them, or something) I'd rather it fell entirely at night, or when I'm stuck at work all day.

Also getting wet in the rain makes you look sexy.

Why, thank you

you are entirely welcome

Sat outside eating and drinking in Manchester atm after a bike ride, all's well here.

there's nothing good about british rain tbh

apocalypse, I hear you. I was trying to watch Frasier and it was hailing so hard the satellite dish stopped working.

Also getting wet in the rain makes you look sexy.

you have to already look sexy for this to really work

Love stop-start rain and sunshine. But it should rain and sun at the same time. Bit too grim at the min.

Also getting wet in the rain makes you look sexy.

no it doesn't....it makes my hair plastered to my head

I have an umbrella, protects me from looking even sexier.

there's nothing good about british rain tbh

http://www.thetraveldepartment.co.uk/scotsman/getattachment/d7ff8a1c-662c-4c57-af28-a929364b1756/UK-Cotswolds-British-Countryside.aspx

though today, I guess the showers are annoying...have adapted my step ladder as an airer, so I can get my jeans in from the garden more quickly.

try living in fucking scotland

― rolling stupid fruity crazy vag cru (cozen), Saturday, 18 June 2011 10:51 (5 hours ago)

cloudy with a chance of hitler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2USUxuy_9w

Worst snow for 20 years in December, hottest April ever known, coldest August since 1993, and now from nowhere it's turned into the summer we never had just as we're reaching October.

Just think how nice it will be when they finally install that Global Warming they keep talking about...

meh, this is all normal imo. somehow Britishes people brainwash themselves every year into thinking it's gonna be sunny in August, when it blates never ever is.

I remember more sunny Sep/Octs, it's true.

The voice of doom returns. The wettest April on record: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17897982 and May's been pretty shit so far (apocalyptic hailstorm a couple of hours ago).

Well, the UK could do with the rain.

^^^ raining here now

it's possible to have rain without it being 10 degrees with gusting winds

yeah true but i hate that warm, muggy air you get when there's loads of moisture in the air.

there's also the selfish shit factor of crap weather = fewer tourists wandering around aimlessly on my route to work.

anyone else still got the heating system and extra fleeces on standby ?

f*ck the need for water in reservoirs, i'm fed up with this shit.

Oh yeah, we've had the heating on several times in the last few weeks. I also keep thinking it's time to break out the warm weather harrington, but random, heavy, regular rain means have also been rocking the Berghaus for about a month longer than normal.

Sigh....

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51SoDcgf0%2BL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

Was seriously considering wearing my wellies to go to a gig last night

The Wurzels was it?

how many days of unbroken actual hot sunny weather do we get a year these days? seems like way fewer than when i were a lad; can't be more than 15 days max.
should be used to it now i suppose but the UK is basically freezing, pishing, cloudy, cold or gloomy for 85-90% of the year.

Don't think this is as bad as 2007 yet but its got time to get there. I remember 2009 being a decent summer, but I don't think we've had a proper long hot summer since maybe 2006? Definitely remember there being at least two glorious ones back in the mid-00s.

The Wurzels was it?

Haha no, it was the ironically named Sunn O)))

More like Rainn :((( amirite etc

I quite like this weather

Yeah, a couple of the mid-90s ones were proper pipe ban worthy.

Umbrellas seem to have declined severely in quality: just disposing of a broken 'tote' (£4.50 from tesco) which lasted less than a week and itself replaced a boots umbrella (£10) which last 2 downpours.

I refuse to use the anti-social golf/bankers unbrellas, but they seem to the only ones manufactured to a reasonable quality.

I quite like this weather

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I like the weird atmospheric effects aspect- the BT Tower is almost entirely invisible from my 6th floor office vantage point- it's just walking around in it that's the problem.

Don't think this is as bad as 2007 yet but its got time to get there

They're* working on it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/11/uk-weather-unsettled-next-month

*'they' being the secret evil people in the sky who send endless rain in my direction

this is depressing even when i don't have to leave the house

I JUST WANT TO BE WARM IS THAT SO HARD

no i don't want to be warm i want to be REALLY HOT as I SHOULD BE IN THE SUMMER

soon as my parents die i'm emigrating tbh

This sodding weather has made me ill again. I feel like kicking the sky.

Heard someone talking about the Euro Monsoon the other day. Is that a thing?

It does seem to completely shit it down for at least some of every June.

Kinda relieved there's no Glastonbury this year.

nah june's been great in recent years - last year was the first year the wimbledon roof was really needed and even then it was only for a couple of days iirc

whereas right now there are four separate tennis tournaments taking place in four different locations across europe and it's pissing down at ALL of them right now

You youngsters don't remember '76. To my 7-8yo brain, the heat went on forever. Enough blue skies to last a lifetime.

(Mind you, I think it's fair to say that, aside from about May 16-30, it has rained semi-continuously across most of GB since late March. Which is pretty amazin').

tbh i prefer the continuous drizzly grey right now to the incredibly frazzle-inducing uncertainty of BRIGHT BLUE SKIES for two hours followed without any warning by MISERABLE PISSY RAIN which abruptly switches back to BRIGHT SUNSHINE MAKING YOU UNCOMFORTALY HOT WHEN YOU DRESSED FOR THE RAIN and then GALE-FORCE HAIL, which is the mark of the british spring ie the worst of all seasons

British spring > British summer the last few years. Feels like a decent spring followed by a pissy summer followed by hot September is the natural way of things in Britain nowadays.

late March/early April = nice
Late September/early October = nice
everything inbetween = pizzling slipper weather

it's been like this for years

I think we're trying to impose a fixed order on something inherently chaotic - I known some bad March and Aprils.

Are the Met Office still peddling the 'still lower than average for year so far' line?

i think a lot of these reminiscences are amiss somehow and that the pattern over the last decade or so is just greater polarization & unpredictability

like between the current weather pattern and the dull/crap weather of april-early may there was about ten days of very settled weather

the transition from winter to spring was really abrupt, about a fortnight of the tempreature hovering around freezing and then 16 degree days in late february

the end of last autumn was really strange, i remember it being about 26 degrees in the evening in early october, high summer weather with autumn light

i think every month from september to march had below average rainfall in london, significantly below average in some instances but because you don't tend to notice rainfall levels as much in winter when it is dark and cold anyway as in say june

This seems to suggest the 70s/80s were a blip

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/actualmonthly/14/Rainfall/UK.gif

Quite a lot of rainy summers at the very end of that graph though.

Relatively okay weather during WWI then, don't know what they were all complaining about with that trench foot shite.

the end of last autumn was really strange, i remember it being about 26 degrees in the evening in early october, high summer weather with autumn light

that was amazing. was still swimming outside in October. Those times, where the light has implicit in it all the sensory and emotional content of one season, or micro-season, but the atmospheric conditions are redolent of another are extremely peculiar and delightful to savour - like having a vivid memory that is not your own. you feel but loosely anchored to yourself, or a sudden sense of fictionality.

June and i'm sitting here in a fucking cardigan

it was quite nice in london today! went to the shops in just a t-shirt, have window open atm etc

dare i hope this lasts

Oh god 76 was just too bloody hot. Remember spending about half of it on a canal boat on the Upper Thames just dying of heat.

i sunburned my legs in 76 - maybe 77 - so badly i couldn't walk for a day

I was born in June '76 and apparently didn't wear any clothes for the first two months of my life. Wait. That can't be true, surely. Will quiz my mum on it next weekend for our joint birthday celebration.

that was amazing. was still swimming outside in October. Those times, where the light has implicit in it all the sensory and emotional content of one season, or micro-season, but the atmospheric conditions are redolent of another are extremely peculiar and delightful to savour - like having a vivid memory that is not your own. you feel but loosely anchored to yourself, or a sudden sense of fictionality.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6050/6246370869_fd7127eb08_z.jpg

oct 15 2011

i moved down from scotland late last september, where we were having iirc a standard scottish early autumn. would hardly have been more of a shock to the system had i moved to venus.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST JUST FUCK OFF, WEATHER, JUST FUCK OFF

Must be time to dust off my long-standing conspiracy theory that our education system is deliberately crap at teaching people foreign languages, otherwise most of the UK population would pack up and move to sunnier, dryer climes.

(And UK Governments deliberately encourage a housing market/mortgage system rather than a more flexible rental market which would also see people bugger off abroad for years, if not for ever.)

1 month of rain in 1 day http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/24/flooding-northern-england-river-calder?newsfeed=true

local outdoor gigs being messed up and called off left right and centre up here too, although tonight's Paul Weller gig at Jodrell Bank is also off so it's not all bad.

thats a shitty thing to say.

will no-one think of the aging mod tards?

How's the Hackney Weekend holding up? Holding a festival on a fucking marsh never seemed like the most sensible of ideas.

h8 the way the festival's encroaching on one of the most unspoiled areas round here as if the scorched earth approach to vicky park wasn't enough

no idea how it's going, was out of london yesterday, hopefully it's so muddy that everyone's put off making it happen again

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18653274

Officially the wettest April-June ever (and June isn't even quite finished yet). Ironically, in the middle of all of this, I managed to get hopelessly sunburnt on Tuesday in London.

I got slightly sunburnt standing at Preston station for 3 hours waiting for a replacement bus service to take us past the floods and landslides and up to Carlisle so I could get to Glasgow. No buses. Taxi to Carlisle, no trains there either. Weather + rail chaos, the most britishest things of all?

This week:
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r299/crunchydog_2006/rain.jpg
and beyond:
UK Outlook for Sunday 8 Jul 2012 to Tuesday 17 Jul 2012:
The generally unsettled picture is expected to continue throughout the outlook period. Although all areas are prone to showers or longer spells of rain, initially the focus of the most persistent rain is likely to be across central, southern and eastern Britain, while northwestern areas probably escape the worst of the weather. Through the middle of next week, conversely, the wettest conditions look likely to spread to northern and western parts, with some drier and brighter spells in the south and east. Any rain could be heavy and thundery at times. Continuing changeable right through to the middle of July. Most areas becoming breezy after this weekend, especially in northern and western parts, where there is a risk of coastal gales at times. Temperatures often rather cool in rain.

It's so unfair.

fully expecting the government to intervene in advance of the olympics with some sort of secret rain-busting technology,but i'm kind of getting into this cloudforest vibe at the moment. put on some popol vuh, make more coffee, watch the raindrops dripping down from the leaves

i am just acting like it's proper summer. may be going slightly mental.

lay in bed listening to it piss down for much of the early morning, contemplating the strange, non-season weather.

cos basically it sounded like September out there.

It's horribly humid. I wouldn't mind the rain if it had the decency to go for the full autumnal vibe and be cold as well.

Getting kinda disappointed in my BritILX peeps, when the only regular BritILX thread going is complaining about a summer full of rain, which happens like clockwork, every damn year. But no one is debating or saying interesting things or making points about the unholy plague of banking scandals right now, which happen like.... oh.

Never mind.

if it helps I did also lay in bed contemplating the grotesque manipulative greed of the banking system, where absolute moral collapse and widespread systemic criminality is somehow seen as normal, justifiable, free of consequence, which also is indicative of the total separation of those who control financial forces (forces that, like the weather, are everywhere, and affect everyone all the time) and the successive governments that connived in their criminality, from the general populus, ie those for whom a bank is basically a cashpoint and a perspex encased teller.

I woke up quite early.

I was almost going to put an addendum after that post to say "that was a pathetic attempt at a joke, BTW, not a carp or a condemnation" but I thought any joke which needed to be flagged as a joke probably isn't funny.

Rain in June and political/economic scandals, the great inevitables? Probably not funny, I suppose, even for dark humour.

when i was a child the summers were sunnier and the banks were less bent tbh

May and June are normally OK for weather; July and August have been ropey as hell the last few summers though, iirc. This year is just a complete washout though. Two good weeks in March, two in May. I've barely ridden my bike because it's just depressing.

Are these like the fabled sunny British summers of the 80s that I missed while I was out of the country, like the fabled era of Thatcher prosperity?

i seemed to spend a lot more time playing out with my mates than wd be practicable today

it doesn't rain every year, 2010 was awesome. 2009 had a massive heatwave for weeks too.

do ya remember 95 eh, eh?

remember making my confirmation

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r299/crunchydog_2006/summergraph.jpg
How good/bad our summers have been recently AS PROVEN BY SCIENCE!

This looks at a combination of temperatures, rainfall and sunshine hours and how much higher/lower than average they were. A figure of zero means it was pretty normal, anything above means better than normal and below means worse. So 2003 was great, 2005 was good, 2006 was mostly brilliant, the last five summers have been mostly shit (except 2010 started off well) with some spectacularly poor Augusts. This is using data for Heathrow.

we've still got time!

#prayforsummer

three months of record rainfall following seven months of below average rainfall

hmmn

Today was nice. I got a little sunburnt while gardening in Hackney.

today = shit though.

Nice weather for ducks

sense of smugness at having pre-emptively rejected every festival going this weekend :)

yday was nice, lovely evening. you take what you can get now in these end times.

you take what you can get now in these end times

Oh great, looting has started and no-one told me...

the bbc has a 10 day forecast now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2643743

it looks like much the same as recently, but warmer

hot and wet but not in a good way

oh, i like that average-weather chart down the bottom, that's a neat corrective to fantasy summers past.

oh, i like that average-weather chart down the bottom, that's a neat corrective to fantasy summers past.

Not really - it just proves that this is much worse than actual summers past. That chart says the average rain for June is 45mm. We had well over double that last month. The met office report for June:

The weather was dominated by low pressure over or close to the UK, with associated weather fronts. These brought rather cool days, some very large rainfall totals and also some strong winds early in the month. There was an almost complete absence of warm, settled spells.

The UK mean temperature was 0.3 °C below the 1971-2000 average and it was the coolest June since 1991. Daily maximum temperatures were well below normal, particularly in many central and eastern areas, with few warm days. Almost all areas were much wetter than normal, especially across much of England and Wales, southern and eastern Scotland and Northern Ireland. It was the wettest June across the UK in the series from 1910 (wetter than June 2007), and the equal-wettest June in the England and Wales series from 1766 (shared with June 1860). Only the far north-west of Scotland was drier than normal. Almost all areas were duller than usual, and it was provisionally the second dullest June in the series from 1929.

xp Oh, that must be a London-only thing. The Met office has some nice graphs compared to past averages too:
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/anomalygraphs/

I find this thread funny because my personal idea of how summer is different now than during the 80s is p. much the opposite of everyone else's. It may be wet this year but it's still not cold. I find summer too hot these days and don't remember doing so as a kid (admittedly probably because I wasn't quite so fat as a kid).

If we were at primary school now we wouldn't even be considering this the summer - that was basically the six weeks off school, which hasn't even begun yet. Worth bearing in mind next time someone at work starts off on rose tinted reminiscing.

time was we used to learn our timetables in class and not worry about what the temperature was, now its all concept games to learn the real values of integers and how they relate to the physical world around us, just last week the little woman's son from her first marriage was left alone on the beach at rhyl to learn the true meaning of sunburn, wouldn't have happened when i was locked underground by my abusive old dad

I have a really vivid ie possibly inaccurate memory of it raining every single day in June 1990 and being utterly enraged wondering what kind of god would allow this

otoh there were World Cup games every evening so it wasn't a big deal, it was just the PRINCIPLE

IIRC 1990 was a scorching summer but then I was in London/Oxford.

Matt DC - Scottish schools used to break up at the beginning of June and not reconvene until mid-August. No idea whether they still do but they were bumper summers for sure.

that's a neat corrective to fantasy summers past.

Not really - it just proves that this is much worse than actual summers past

um. my point was that it gives us actual summers past to compare to, not whatever imaginary version we hold to (which could be positive or negative).

and that having it right on the page with the forecast means idle curiosity might lead people who, like me, think "well 21 degrees is cold for july" to discover that actually it's not far off the average.

in other news, the Heath was utterly gorgeous yesterday afternoon, and surprisingly uncrowded.

IIRC 1990 was a scorching summer

I remember July/August post-end of term as being really, really hot and sunny and I was filled with resentment because I spent most of the time working in Fads (decorating shop) or having driving lessons.

last evenings london forecast = rain clearing away early in the morning, dry with sunny spells and abt 22c

today irl = like being inside a greenhouse in december

August 1990 saw several places in Scotland have their hottest day on record. I certainly remember Dundee being almost Mediterranean like.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/interesting/aug1990/ 37.1C at Cheltenham.

tomorrow according to the Met Office it will be wet and 19c tops.

Fucking tipping it down in Manchester, on and off, for the whole day, mostly when I step out of the office. Going to housewarming BBQ tomorrow, oh daer.

Beautiful sunshine in London at the moment after being pretty grey and drizzly for most of the day. I think we've missed the worst of it so far this year.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/interesting/aug1990/ 37.1C at Cheltenham.

Oh, I remember that now. I thought it was '87 or '88 though but I often find out my childhood memories happened 2 years after I thought they did.

I spent all day whining about it being too hot to my parents, who were trying to have a barbecue and were distinctly unsympathetic, and then when it was declared the hottest day evar on telly I felt vindicated. We didn't live in Cheltenham but it was not very far away and my Nan lived there so it was clearly incontrovertible proof that it had been too hot in our back garden for a barbecue

yeah it's looking nice in london now

The entire stock of a Liverpool chocolate factory melted and at Stansted Mountfichet Castle, Essex a waxwork knight melted into a puddle.

it's had a nice habit of raining while you're at work then clearing up come the evening

in london that is, if you live in manc i don't know how roo feel

I'll take that for now.

Raining so hard here now...not sure I'm going anywhere today.

the forecast for the next month is pretty bad

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/uk_forecast_weather.html

Met Office, uhhhh, Schmet Office

the forecast for the next month is pretty bad

Yeah, I think once the jet stream shifts downwards (as it has done this year) then that's it - you basically get 'unsettled' weather for the whole summer. It's just a question of making the most of any brief dry/sunny spells.

The forecast for today showed very heavy rain showers coming in from about 11 or 12 onwards. I set off at 9.30 on a bike ride, hoping to get a couple of hours in before the rain came. At 10.15 near Theydon Bois I was nearly drowned by a 15-minute cloudburst - it was like someone emptied a bath over my head. The road was an inch or two under water and I could barely see anything - I only knew when cars were coming towards me because they had their headlights on full.

the met office rainfall radar is neat

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/se/se_latest_radar.html

tho obviously it is better for following southwesterly rainfall bands where you can estimate their arrival quite accurately wrt the wind speed, rather than the sort of chaotic squally showers of recent times

This is exasperating. If there was any light at the end of the tunnel it wouldn't be so bad - if they said "you've got two more weeks of this shit and then the sun will officially put his hat on" I could live with that.

It's warm and sunny in Cardiff right now, not expecting it to last though.

some tropical monsoon shit going on over lewisham right now

the sky has actually broken

If it was 3pm and I was watching Carry on Abroad or something this'd be perfect Sunday weather. As it is I'm lying in bed with a horrible hangover ruing agreeing to DJ at some shitty venue on Brick Lane where I got shouted at for 'playing old fucking shit' by the bar owner despite it being a disco/funk/surf/shoegaze night, rather than going to rhythm factory and seeing FlyLo (hanging out with Venus Williams) or Actress in Peckham, so FUCK THIS RAIN.

Venus Williams went to XOYO?!?@?!?!>!

actress is good music for when you're having coffee on a grey damp shit fucking sunday morning in london

i just hope people recognise that this is all the ConDem's fault when we get to the next election

Taking you up on that, nakhchivan. Ran a few errands, and am now sitting here damply, like a dog. Still something about the regular swish of traffic outside that isn't entirely unappealing, but it's near as high summer ffs!

not that we don't moan phatically about the weather in lieu of whatever more purposeful discourse happens in other countries....but months of this is actually very dispiriting

i don't think i have seen a shadow for weeks now...everything is murky, half-lit

It is relentless.

Leaving for work this morning at 1am I opened the front door and the rain must have been chucking it down so rapidly that it was faster than the human eye. I could see a torrent coming from the top of our front porch and 'cos I couldn't actually see the rain I thought a pipe had burst or some such. Took one step outside and still couldn't see the rain clearly, but judging from the fact that I was soaked to the skin within 5 seconds I trust that it was in fact raining.

It was crazy then, got a taxi home for what would normally be a leisurely 10-minute walk. It was so wet I had to stop for cans on the way and invite 30 friends over.

my brain has actually broken

About half eleven the rain had eased off to just a light splattering, so I thought I'd take a chance and try and squeeze in another bike ride. I got absolutely drenched again. The country lanes basically had streams running down either side of them and one point I had to ride through a giant puddle that was more than a foot deep (totally submerging my feet and bottom bracket). I'd had enough of this, so thought I'd head home on a main road instead, only to find this:
http://youtu.be/WXH9R0E-1v8
I tried walking down the grass verge for a couple of hundred yards but it ended up with a stream that had burst its banks and there was no way through. I had to go on a massive detour and ignore a load of 'road closed' signs to get home. My saturated cycling shoes are smeered with something indescribable which might be bits of dead slug.

for all the doom and gloom, i have just managed to cut the grass in lovely sunshine.

that said, yesterday was truly dreadful, and no doubt it will go off in the next hour or 2, but still ..

that monsoon's turned up in lewisham again.

OK, I take back what I was saying earlier about British summers always being this rainy.

This weekend has seriously got past the "just a British summer" territory into "holy shit will the rains ever cease this is the end times!"

How can there be that much water in the sky? For so long? Doesn't it ever run out?

y'know that large watery thing just to the left of Ireland?

Cornwall?

200 people are being laid off from a local caravan company but i think they're missing a trick, they could repurpose the statics as arks

Hurrah! The drought is over!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-18764953

rather than going to rhythm factory

700 strong queue apparently so was prob for best

I CANNOT DEAL with the way this weather is so changeable

torrential downpour
bright sunshine
torrential downpour
bright sunshine

all within a two-hour span

MY BRAIN FEELS SO FRAZZLED

like if you're going to rain just fucking RAIN and be grey and miserable all day

my mood is just swinging horribly because of this

I've been wondering about this for ages, but do you guys have air-conditioning in your homes? It seems like almost a mandatory installment here on the Gulf Coast.

lol

I take that as a "NO! IDIOT!" then. I suppose it's all mad dogs and Englishmen then, as regards to heat.

What is this 'heat' of which you speak?

given that most of us are holding our fingers over the 'on' button for the heating in sodding july, then you read LGs answer correctly.

f*ck this summer.

xpost.

Well, you know, not now. But surely there has been some summers where it hits 35-40+? Right?

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/long-hot-summer-the-great-british-heatwave-of-1911-408738.html
80°F? Ok then! Fuck this shit.

There was that one summer recently that it got so hot that train tracks melted and warped? When was that, 2003?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5193486.stm

Yup, that was the one.

Blood-flavoured ice lollies. Mmmmm. Keeping Britain's vampires cool since 2006.

It basically never goes above 35 (I remember this happening once in my lifetime and it made the news). We might get a couple of days around 30-32 in a "hot" year. PS 30 is way too hot for me so I'm not complaining about that.

In general some workplaces have A/C but I don't know anyone with A/C at home.

PS 30 is way too hot for me

It's the humidity that really makes it miserable though. Seems to be higher on average in the UK compared to the US.

I don't know anyone with A/C at home.

My parents have a small-ish portable AC on wheels, but it doesn't get used that much, even during a hot year.

I bet the rest of the world is really looking forward to coming to this soggy shithole of an island next month.

Just got caught in the heaviest downpour I have ever seen. Thank fuck I had an umbrella.

You have enough 35+ days, and even a soggy shithole of an island looks appealing. Hell, I'd be in Seattle if it wasn't for my irrational fear of Mt. Rainer exploding.

The eyes of the world have already seen the morose jubilee floatilla in the endless grey pissing rain, soggy Wimbledon in the same, and next The Olympics (if we haven't been completely submerged by then). Instead of showcasing the city to future tourists, we'll be sending out the message that London is a miserable place where it always rains. Only freaks will come to visit us.

Sounds like a winner. Tourists? We don't need their scum.

http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/8/8b/Piett_btm.jpg

Not a bad likeness tbh.

Just roof the fucking place already Boris

You mean put the whole of London under a William Gibson style geodesic dome?

I'm up for that. Like The Truman Show, but without the cameras.

get norman foster to design it

in yr face astana

Or everyone else secretly being an actor.

Don't like that idea. They'd only really roof Central London and the outer boroughs would end up getting drowned in the runoff.

Sounds like a winner. Outer boroughs? We don't need their scum.

No dome anywhere the riots happened. Rioters don't deserve domes!

make the drainpipe empty out on to the london "pleasure" "gardens", may as well put it to some use

Just got caught in the heaviest downpour I have ever seen. Thank fuck I had an umbrella.

ha... then you, my friend, can appreciate what it was like to be in a vest and shorts, out running, during said downpour. i have never been so soaked in my life. joggers were sharing mutual wry laughter as they passed. if i get away without a cold or chest infection it'll be a miracle.

Sounds like a winner. Joggers? We don't need their scum.

i lived in a house with air conditioning

you'd probably get 10-20 days a year when it might be useful

probably about 2 days so far this year

that was when i was a kid so i don't think air conditioning was a big priority

Something dreadful's happened - the sky's gone a terrifyingly blank and gaudy shade of blue, of all colours.

THERE'S A FUCKING BURNING ORB OF FIRE IN THE SKY! WTF IS THAT! IT MUST BE THE TENTH PLANET THAT THE MAYANS AND NIC CAGE PREDICTED WOULD WIPE OUT CIVILIZATION! WE'RE ALL DOOMED!

Yellow burny sky-ball! Sighted in air above Croydon! It burns, it burns, my flesh, it burns!

Going into vitamin D shock... must find darkened room...

haha the weather wuss on 5 Live this morning going all Gerard Manley Hopkins about "burning orb of July sunshine illuminating our crops and souls" etc. and then creeping in afterwards to add "btw, by teatime it's going to be pissing down again."

I've never known such accusatory weather in any other country. Even the rain here falls in a manner that suggests: "It's all your fault."

Actually I should modify that by saying "in any other place." It really is an urban thing and probably a London thing.

So, the age-old dilemma raises its head: beach or barbecue?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqp6q2LZp3w

Drinking even more than I would be if it was sunny.

sun was out earlier when i awoke. after reading tons of ilx in bed, the sun has now fucked off. only myself to blame.

i take so much care to avoid situations where i end up having to exist outside in the rain - blanket no-UK-festivals policy for instance - and yet it appears that tonight i have to go to somerset house for an afrobeats gig

it will be outdoors

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>:(

Been working some saturdays this summer which makes weather seem ok

Apparently the end is nigh:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18868494

http://cs10634.userapi.com/u141430490/-14/q_10a79534.jpg

no rain on the 10 day forecast after today

typically i'm going on holidays in 8 days. it'll prob rain there.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20America/Rock-n-Roll/party.gif

http://geeksontheinside.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/dancing-bear.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNowU63PF5E

Just as I was reaching the point where I had just about forgotten summer and had finally accepted this eternal cold grey twilight world.

Still a big fucking raincloud outside my window.

The only silver lining I'd seen around the eternal British cloud was that the Olympics was gonna get rained on. Now I don't even have that small comfort!

Not even going to go outside today.

LOL massive downpour in SE London all of a sudden. It's mid afternoon and it's so dark in my living room (it's south facing! and usually really bright!) I'm tempted to turn the light on. A+ work, weather

its just the right temperature now

This is the summer we've been waiting for since 2006.

I think we just had a record broken for the last 25 years and then the weather changed slightly. Wasn't as brilliant sunshine today, looked a bit overcast buit felt humid when I was out in it.
But it had to last up to yesterday and then the record was broken. In Ireland at least, I think.

Post-8:30pm it's been marvellous; great skies too. It's funny that my elder daughter is the same age as I was in '76. She's running around Brockwell Park, shirtless, having water fights with her pals - 8yo me had to keep my jumper on.

Anyone who starts barbeques at this hour deserves to be forced to rim David Cameron for life.

It has been incredible in dublin, thirty or thereabouts for the full week and hot til late in the evening

sitting outside watching it get dark drinking wine is the best thing

it's amazing - went running tonight and there's a primal buzz out of how hot it is and having an ice cold shower after. (lol catholic.)

ice cold showers sound fairly protestant

ideally it should be -3 outside for full muscular xtian soul-purging effect

haha, have also done this. both extremes enjoyable. rain less so.

the lowest temperature tonight is forecast to be 22/23c, the highest overnight low ever recorded in england was 23.9c

32.3 °C

went for a 13k run at midday today, it was intense

32 deg C here, but the humidity is only 45% and the pressure is dropping, so it's not too bad out of the sun.

32.8 °C at 6pm at heathrow

the meteorological office no longer do realtime updates for any of their inner london weather stations so thats as good as u get

Much more civilised today :)

Humidity could do with being a bit lower - it's 80% here.

twelve degrees

Don't.

If we keep quiet it might get better.

This weathers actively makin me feel like a mouldy bag of potatoes.

This is just a blip, folks. A horrible blip, particularly ill-timed to coincide with the half-term break, but just a blip.

:/

You would appreciate this ceaseless rain if you lived on the dreadful pacific coast shithole of California ;)

beautiful south of the Liffey today, and better out west I'm told

I am making my first britishes trip in July & I hope the weather is awful in the way referred to here, after even just a few days of the dank scrotal heat here in the central USA

i like some of this grotty dull weather sometimes, nearly dark at 6pm, good bottle of heavy red wine, satie and sad aphex twin, otherwise just rain falling

but its usually better when it is 16 or 17 degrees rather than 12

anyway, tomorrow will be 16 so in that sense nb&s is correct, things are improving

on the plus side everything is wicked green and the ground makes a good noise when you walk on it

also good for ducks and the like

I have 4 hours to kill today, on my own and in a provincial town centre with limited options and a forecast of endless rain, Wetherspoon's afternoon sesh is totally out of the question. Will end up sitting in a cineplex to keep dry, toss up between Postman Pat:The Movie and that latest X men drivel. This weather doesn't exactly encourage cafe culture.

recommend Postman Pat

uggggh this fucken island

lovely in dub I'll put kettle on?

not until hull freezes over.

waheyyyyy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2582354/Amazing-video-man-singing-Let-It-Go-Frozen-21-different-Disney-characters-including-Mickey-Mouse-Winnie-Pooh-Pumbaa-Jack-Sparrow.html

uggggh this fucken island

???

I'd be the first to complain, but so far this summer's been pretty good, just with a few bad days like this

has it?? where do you live?

Is this the worst (britishes) summer ever?

Amazing how this question may be legitimately asked every year and each time it merits serious consideration.

It's possible that says more about British ppl than British weather, as nb&s says this has actually been a decent summer. I'm walking to work in glorious sunshine, which is fairly typical of the last couple of months. T-shirt weather at 7am is good going imho.

It did piss down at the weekend tho. I've few complaints. Were on course for a nice early harvest this year B-)

don't feel like it's got hot at all yet, whether this is local climactic blip, misery of work or demanding the unreasonable i don't know. suspect the first.

We've had tons of hot days in east anglia, even muggy energy-sapping heat. I went to the big cereals event near duxford for work the other week & forgot to take sunscreen; 11 hours standing in a field, I was a bloody chicharrón by the end

didn't think there was any need for that language tbh

Sorry man its this heat

I was gonna say, this is the summer I've spent the most time working outdoors in a garden, and the weather has been lovely!

But then I remembered that I've already suffered heatstroke three times so far this year and it's only June so yeah, I guess it is a bit warm.

Have to admit that in Glasgow it's been pretty good. It took a while to come, but we're actually enjoying something that resembles a summer (though nothing like last year's heatwave). Today looks like another great day.

I've spent the past week in 30+ weather and cannot wait to get back to the britishes summer.

today is beautiful in london

My sunburn's peeling.

I'm into my second week's sunburn in Fife. But then, I'm ginger, at that happens pretty much any time I'm made to stand outside for a few hours, any time of year.

my brother got sunstroke in overcast 12 degrees once

Even when the met forecast is 23 degrees and sunshine, all you see in Yorkshire is the same variable N Atlantic grey sky that has probably reigned for last 40 thousand years. Can count the cloudless days on one hand up here.

http://www.lightningmaps.org/realtime?lang=en shit's p wild out there

In London at least this is actually been a pretty great summer. Apparently I slept right through one crazy thunderstorm last night but it's all back to sweltering again now.

it's been amazing this week (also had no idea about the thunderstorm!) but lol @ the deluges forecast for the WEEKEND ONLY

i'd been looking forward to lovebox and the lambeth country fair :(

My summer has been improved no end by the emergence of the pistachio Magnum.

The whippetlurcher has been staying over all week and spent about half of yesterday laying on his side, with a very cool/damp tea towel draped over him. This weather is not that great if you're a 17-year-old dog.

Got woken up @ 5am by the loudest thunderclap I've ever heard in my life.

there's something in the air

Am having trouble getting it together right now tbh.

I was vaguely woken up last night.

Love a thurnderstorm. Really looking forward to playing some corrosive noise while that's going on @ the weekend.

Posts very much in character.

came here to post exactly the same thing as Tom D: 5am, thought it had maybe hit my flat

loved it though - had the windows open and lay there in this half asleep gauzy fug listening to the rumble

All for the corrosive noise - but not when I'm trying to get some kip 'n have work in the morning.

I completely forgot about the Lambeth Country Fair!

There were some pretty amazing photos of the storm when it was Cornwall going around. I'm just surprised it made its way up country so quickly!

It's also Italian festival in Clerkenwell on Sunday, complete with saints and Jesus cosplayers on floats.

I'm community gardening on Sunday (Christ I hope the heat breaks before then) but do you want to come to the Lambeth Country Sow with me on Saturday, Suzy? (overground from Farringdon to Herne Hill; really easy for you)

the emergence of the pistachio Magnum.

Oh god, yes.

Oh, are those good? They were on sale half price at Sainsburys just now but I kinda side-eyed them due to the colour and went for the double caramel (my endless summer questing beast)

I haven't forgiven them for discontinuing the coffee ones

(although Waitrose do a v good equivalent)

was awake all night listening and watching. tired but it was a roiling and glorious heavenly battle that was taking place. actually felt mildly alarmed at thunder/lightning for the first time since running out of a pub playing bohemian rhapsody aged 16.

have been completely incommunicado for the last month or so, but feel I shd reveal my giant forms to the public (to use blake's phrase) for the Lambeth fair this weekend. with an umbrella.

do magnum do flavour flavoured things again now, last I looked they were all flavoured with abstract nouns like nostalgia or despair

Oh I forgot you lived in Herne Hill now, Fizzles. Afterparty at Fizzle's flat! Woo! THE BLACK KNIGHT COMMANDS IT!

The Seven Deadly Sins Magnums were a couple of years ago IIRC. But I would totally eat "Nostalgia of Despair" flavoured ice cream. Any day.

i think we've had enough good weather now for this to be an Officially Good Summer, which makes two years in a row.

Yeah this is a proper summer, not up to the level of last year (which was glorious) but still better than... pretty much any summer from 2007 to 2012.

If we have a shit spring we tend to have a good summer, and a lovely spring usually indicates a summer of pissy rain. No idea why.

Magnum 3s are £1.50 in Waitrose right now.

Not the best pistachio ice cream thing I've ever had, but that's £4 and a queue of people-in-my-way at Scoop, so...

Yeah this is a proper summer, not up to the level of last year (which was glorious) but still better than... pretty much any summer from 2007 to 2012.

If we have a shit spring we tend to have a good summer, and a lovely spring usually indicates a summer of pissy rain. No idea why.

I know! plus v hot couple of weeks in September/October. seasonal shut sandwich.

yeah thanks iphone.

Working in an air conditioned office but then having to walk a mile to the bus station is kind of like stepping out of the space capsule to walk across the surface of Mercury. To catch a bus. Which this evening had malfunctioning electrics ('Pleaze to stop this bus ktnx' bell kept ringing over and over despite no-one pressing the buttons) and was driven by a white Australian with the most serious tan I've seen in a long time.

stuck on the central line behind a defective train. not feeling very jolly. badly need a beer.

and yes BwaB! HH party time! <draws curtains, bolts doors and tells brother to remain vigilant>

if people are around tho be good to catch up/get together. not sure exactly what plans are at the moment but I'll certainly be having a wander round over the weekend.

i am coming to london on the 27th. is it going to be miserable?

adore this weather. want all the extremes together and never numb overcast nothingness

phenomenal level of electricity in the air. it'd turn milk sour.

Just been standing on my balcony watching the sky flash to the northeast. No rain here, no thunder audible, just the sky lighting up briefly every few seconds.

Seems to have gone north without going overhead but feels like we'll get a storm soon. Last night's was amazing to listen to in bed. I closed the window down as far as I could stand in the heat (open about an inch) and the rain still sounded like it was coming in (it was not).

It has been nice in West Yorkshire today. Totally overcast but still in the low 20's and warm and humid. Beautiful refreshing breeze.

A drop of rain today if I'm not mistaken.

http://static.bbci.co.uk/weather/0.5.291/images/icons/individual_32_icons/en_on_light_bg/30.png
lol

annoying presenters but good programme about how weather works, why british weather is so weird, and why it's gotten weirder:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04b763n

So fed up with this weather. Maybe I should move to Alaska or something if living in the UK is too hot for me, I dunno.

One thing hot weather does: makes it more likely that a bumpy cut will get infected somehow, giving the cut owner a whopping case of cellulitis.

All I have done for the past 10 days or so is elevate my fucking leg while popping penicillin like it's Smarties. I'm so desperate to leave the house for something other than a short hobble to the shop for some milk. *cries*

So fed up with this weather.

uokhun?

I'm in the process of getting lots of insulation done in the house and new radiators and I can't work up the slightest motivation to pay money for all that

saw a thing y'day about a music venue in Bristol winning a big part of its pre-emptive battle against flats that are due to be built nearby, leaving them vulnerable to noise complaints

one of the main conditions is that the flats have to have "permanently fixed-shut windows" and I felt like maybe this wasn't a great time to give people cause to mull that over

Ugh, I have "permanently fixed-shut windows". It doesn't absolutely nothing about the noise from the fucking pub, but it does turn my bedroom into an inferno-like hellhole in summer.

was that the Fleece?

seems like there wd be far better solutions to this kind of problem, like ignoring noise complaints from people who move next to a pre-existing music venue for example

^

dumb to make them residential in the first place tbh
you have to have the flats be livable in

idk, what if you're happy with one level of noise but not another? cf Night & Day
(not that I understand why anyone with good hearing would want to move next to any music venue)

uokhun?

I am now I've been sat in an air-conditioned office for a few hours. My colleague is complaining it's too cold in here.

Can you condition your body to get accustomed to different climates? Coming in to work dripping with sweat every day is getting a bit boring.

"In addition, given that The Fleece has been in operation for some time, any noise complaints received from future residents of the site regarding noise impacts from The Fleece or other neighbouring uses on the balconies or habitable rooms (when windows are in an open position) of the development will not be upheld"

oh, there you go

So many music venues round our way closing down because of new dwellings being built around them. Makes me extremely sad...

^ my favourite place for punk gigs closes this week due to swanky flats being built across the street :(

really? I'm slightly dubious that this actually happens despite people putting all sorts of hyperbolic petitions online. Would have thought planners might have some modicum of sense and the venues would have some rights to carry on as long as they're not breaking the law/changing what they do?

I mean, "happy" to be proved wrong but the few I've looked into have had other contributing factors.

Since when do planners give a shit about anything apart from £££

I'm in the middle of finding out if they give a shit about being fined for breaking their own laws

Can you condition your body to get accustomed to different climates?

I got so fed up with sweating all the time during the summer that a few years ago I decided to acclimatise myself to warmer weather by wearing more layers of clothes during spring/autumn/winter than were really necessary. It took a couple of years, but I can sit around in 30degC heat in trousers and a shirt and feel OK, as long as I'm in the shade.

"snoball", huh

The disadvantage is now I'm that annoying guy who, when people say "WOOOOOOAAAAAAARRRRR isn't it hot?!" replies "yeah I guess, a bit".

^ my favourite place for punk gigs closes this week due to swanky flats being built across the street :(

― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, August 1, 2014 10:39 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this wd be the Grosvenor presumably? really liked that place, it was 'the good kind' of grotty and dead cheap by London standards iirc

Noise complaints, I'm sure, aren't the only reason places get closed down but they certainly catalyse them. I know of several long-standing venues who receive complaints from, for example, a lawyer who lives up the road and who sets the wheels in gear to get them inspected for everything possible. This has the knock-on effect of getting them to eventually shut up shop because the demands become unworkable.

That's the one. I'd been going there for years, went every week for a few years just for drinks/pool/etc as well as the gigs so it's a real bastard for me.

xpost

the Adelphi in Hull, which is a national fucking treasure basically, was subjected to a load of noise complaints at one time. local authorities tend to react to complaints of any kind far quicker than they respond to people not complaining about things they like.

Speaking as someone brought up in Australia, it is not hot in London at the moment. Not even close. It is pleasantly warm, that's all.

Not today anyway, or the rest of the week really.

Must just be something wrong with me then

I have a fan oriented at my face 24/7, tho tbf my attic room is a few degrees warmer than everywhere else.

And yeah it's shite that the Grosvenor is going. I'd go along to https://www.facebook.com/events/316662941836598/ but really I should be staying at home writing and melting.

a few years ago I decided to acclimatise myself to warmer weather by wearing more layers of clothes during spring/autumn/winter than were really necessary. It took a couple of years, but I can sit around in 30degC heat in trousers and a shirt and feel OK, as long as I'm in the shade

Not sure this works universally because I spent my 20s wearing more layers of clothing than necessary all year round because I hated my body and when I reached my 30s it was like a switch was flipped (possibly the switch labelled "being really fucking overweight", ahem, itisamystery.gif) and now I sweat and feel like death on any moderately warm day even in thin short-sleeved tops

(although it may not help that I still find the concept of bearing any part of my feet horrible and wear socks and trainers all year round)

I got a rash last week which the doctor said was "photosensitive dermatitis" and told me to wear a fully-buttoned-up long-sleeved shirt (which I already had been doing to cover the rash) and a sun hat. After 3 days of wearing that in the sunshine I decided that any amount of itchy bumpy red rash and people staring was better than being that hot.

I get terribly sweaty if I'm even moderately warm, but I'm just plain super yicky in this weather. So much so I'm on the verge of asking for a new office chair just cos this one must have soaked up litres of perspiration by now and I just don't know if i even want to touch it any more, not even with my arse

iirc it's 26 degrees?

I love this thread (posting from the south of France where it's 23 degrees right now fwiw)

fuckin mental round here atm

nearby village had 68.8mm of rainfall in 24 hours, today a fb friend of mine posted that her gazebo was blown away & solid oak picnic table lifted off the ground by wind

Where I live 55.23° North latitude, 3.77° West longitude and 72 meters elevation above the sea level, banditry takes more from the garden than the elements.

I rode 103 miles on my bike yesterday, at least 60 of which was in relentless insanely heavy rain with the roads turned into muddy rivers. My iphone died in the process.

this is the first summer since i've been living in london where you've been able to wear just a t-shirt AT NIGHT

Keep getting caught in the rain this summer.

Amazing how inaccurate the forecasts are.

Just had 20 minutes of torrential rain/thunder/lightning. Now it's sunny again.

Described as "partly cloudy" or "light shower" (30% probability)

quite enjoyed watching the torrents of hailstones careening down my neighbours' roofs a while back there

feel like the dream is over - definitely a chilly autumnal breeze in the air a ltitle this week

Just had my internet router totalled by a rogue lightning bolt. Unimpressed

Lol it's like god wants you to stop posting

The ultimate temp ban?

Still got my dicky 3G that only works intermittently coz this is a basement flat, fuckers!

awesome week for rainbows - have had three in four days, two of them clear doubles

today feels kind of like a 'that's it, that's the end of summer' day; which i realise is actually a bit daft and evidently all in my head seeing as it's only mid-August and festival season is still in full swing. must be a post-holiday come down.

nearby village had 68.8mm of rainfall in 24 hours, today a fb friend of mine posted that her gazebo was blown away & solid oak picnic table lifted off the ground by wind

― noballs (wins), Sunday, 10 August 2014 22:22 (1 week ago)

this is the sort of post that, were it to be posted on one of those innumerable british vbb forums that appear unsolicitied in search results, would be followed by someone saying 'that must be the most middle class metereological event i've ever heard of!'

"Fuckin' pishin' it doon, so it wis, an' blawin' a gale an' aw. Ah looks oot the windae an' next hing ye know ma fuckin' gazebo's daein' certwheels acroass ma gairden, ah'm like, "Whit! Here! This must be the worst (britishes) summer ever!"

Is that any better?

...and not only that, but Sainsbury's had run out of artisan crafted pesto.

Really loved my two weeks in London (ending a week back). Gross on the non A/C tube lines but perfectly nice outside. Southbank was a lovely to walk along, and see people enjoying the weather and kids wading in the disgusting Thames as though they were in the tropics.

Cleanest city river in the world, dude!

(Which might not be saying much).

yeah I know, the murk is sediment. It was pretty clean, rubbish wise.

It did kind of surprise me, on Bankside yesterday, underneath the Blackfriars rail bridge, to see a gate open at high tide. You could've just waded in - it was splashing over the top flight of steps.

ugh i find this stop-start sun-rain-sun-rain weather so much harder to deal with than just consistently crap weather

not very impressed with autumn starting already

lots of doom and gloom about a fortnight of cack weather coming up but today seems alright(ish) and my weather app says consistent highs of 21 degrees. Maybe not scorching but could be worse...

It was bloody cold in Exeter first thing. Well, not bloody cold, but noticably several degrees cooler than it has been at the same time last week. Could have done with gloves for my ride to work.

I'm wearing a spring coat and long sleeves today. But also Ray-Bans, so...

This is our new weather system. August is always full of storms and the Septrmber will be bright and warm and clear.

kinda glad i'm in the mediterranean until the 30th then /lex

16 degrees, just about, damp in the air and westerlies gusting to 30mph, realness

Loving this.

I was daydreaming today during a heavy rainfall whilst getting soaked wading through long grass. how sweet must have Britain looked during the mesozoic? Even it's current grimmest provinces looked like the Maldives back then, even if they were still volcanically active in places.

a fine thought but I am v fond of english greenery & the weather which it depends upon

As much as we moan about north atlantic weather systems they have kept us ticking over!

Each geological era has its charms

fucking north wind in august tho

I'm frozen rn ffs

first wear of a lined m&s lumberjack shirt bought on sale in summer tho so mint obv

got back from oz earlier in the week to find it unexpectedly autumnal - went for my regular swim in the serpentine at about six in the morning and it was beautiful, with a clarity of light you often don't get in high summer. it was also a bit parky.

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n601/gamalielratsey/45af2349-c0b2-40b5-a11f-1b2f7c55f32a_zps53bb9d28.jpg

Yesterday was mostly lovely though, apart from one big downpour. I wonder whether the vestigial hurricane Bertha just unsettled and churned everything up for a week or so.

yep, especially with the warm septembers and even octobers we've had in recent years.

mostly lovely though, apart from one big downpour

Britishers now so forelocking-tugging and downtrodden and suffering such collective low esteem, that they think one autumnal-like day with a 'big downpour' is all they're entitled to for a summer Bank Holiday. Mustn't grumble.

What we need now is a CBI press release saying that Bank Holidays cost us £6bn a time and there's a real risk we are turning into France with a summer of inactivity.

We had a good run.

Had planned to go to Hunstanton today. Rather glad I didn't.

What we need now is a CBI press release saying that Bank Holidays cost us £6bn a time and there's a real risk we are turning into France with a summer of inactivity.

A MILLION TIMES OTM

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/public/weather/observation/rainfall-radar#?map=SatelliteIRAndRADAR

BUMP.

Today and yesterday have been grim. Tbh my main memories of late August are coming back from holiday and finding London grey and drizzly but I don't remember it ever being this relentless.

It tends to brighten up in September and it's nice until my birthday in early October and then it goes to shit quickly after that.

Looking at the forecast, there's barely any rain predicted for the next ten days.

Sunny in Fife...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6kHSHQO1IQ

bit shit this morning though...

23 degrees and looks like it will stay warmish for the next week or so too

apart from a crappy week or two at the end of august its been fairly consistently good for the better part of four months

p much, and I was in Sardinia during those exact two weeks B-)

Which means that a 'worst drought in 100 years' warning must be imminent

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ACTIVATE HOSEPIPE BAN

I'm sick of the humidity. So ready for winter.

Are you sure you don't have a cold or fever?

Humidity was about 85% today.

Ugh, it's supposed to be 89% tomorrow during rush hour. Tube will be fun.

unseasonably mild this evening, 17 degrees at 4am

not minded to start an is this the most unseasonably mild autumn thread though

Predicted to be in the 15-18 degrees range into November.

Hate it, my winter wardrobe >>>>>>>>>> wardrobe for rest of year

otm. So many fancy coats and jumpers going to waste.

Haven't had to use my scarf much yet.

I can't afford to heat my house, so I've been using my scarfs, hats and fuzzy jumpers indoors. Win!

I'm too pregnant for a coat so this is good

Somebody please make this stop

This is against nature

why do you want it to 'stop'? Tell me its sarcasm.

Sick of turning up to work dripping

it's nice enough it's just a bit strange.

is definitely not nice

guys, it was mild until halloween last year too. it usually is.

"can't wait for it to be bitter cold again" - actual human beings, apparently

lol otm

yeah, srsly what are you?

If it's cold you can just put more clothes on. Fuck all you can do if it's too hot. I'm still all sweaty now.

TBH my discomfort is probably mostly due to sadism by TFL and their lies about being unable to turn off the heating.

you can take your clothes off?

although i do agree about the trains.

Pretty sure you can't take your clothes off without getting arrested, but ymmv

It is not "too hot" outside at all, although it's perfectly pleasant it's still sleeves weather at this point. Not got the Tube in a while though.

got some issues if you're sweating in this

srsly this is str8 fire beautiful autumn weather & this thread is for summer anyway wtf

many beautiful trees in the country

I'm still boiling, I think my office has the same heating issue TFL has.

take your jumper off man

Grrr

can I just check whether you have considered removing one or more item of clothing?

it's not THAT hot. it's long sleeves and cotton jumpers weather.

T-shirt, cotton jumper and overcoat here. I'm on a train and all is well

Ive moved into a cafe and its very warm when the sun shines in, but because of the cloud this is somewhat intermittent

It's a glorious sunny day and I'm off work. I've just been out for a bike ride in shorts and short sleeves. It's also autumn, nearly November. I feel my thread is being misused.

relatively toastie in the office. mind you the temperature is automatically regulated.

it's getting warm in here
so take off some of your clothes
i am getting so nice and warm
i'm gonna take my jumper off

ooh, slightly too warm now. thinking of ringing workplace management

Omg it's fucking glorious here, might have to abandon my plan of seeing The Innocents this afternoon. Far too nice to be indoors all afternoon.

I live in a valley with steep sided hills and i was too hot when walking up the hill but later on i felt more or less the right temperature again, but im not sure who long this will remain so

Update: still pleasant

fucking happy now, poo

I am, looking good is more important (who said Mod had no influence?)

Much better thanks imago

this is ghastly. even without the wind and rain, this time of year always seems to herald bad skin, achy hands and permanently damp-feeling shoes/feet. Very unpleasant.

OH MY ACHING DOG. Just had a complete mare with walking ageing arthritic whippetlurcher who kept sitting down and giving passersby his best 'call the RSPCA' face about every 20 metres. He loathes rain, which is a factor today, but spins like a dervish indoors when food's on offer. Sighthounds generally prefer standing to sitting, and laying on beds and sofas to any upright option, so he must be in pain if he keeps sitting down on walks. We just switched his painkillers to Tramadol because the ones he took before were affecting his kidneys, but they don't work as well on the pain and make him incredibly woozy.

:'(

I think it's the humidity I can't handle. Am not usually a hypochondriac but I am wondering if r|t|c is right, after sitting on train next to people wearing coats and I'm sat there wearing a baggy cotton shirt and I'm sweating like a bastard.

Only a few more days to suffer. Should be in the 10 degree range from Monday apparently.

hooray

Dog decided to walk around Bloomsbury for almost two hours today, didn't need cajoling to go anywhere. RESULT.

The best.

It can't 31st October.

Lets bump this when its -5 in April.

srsly

I saw a fucking butterfly earlier

Glasgow 19 degrees earlier. Grey but 19 degrees. The perfect life.

jaysus lads

where are the usual miserable fuckers who hate sunlight

beautiful full moon tonight as well.

pushed buggy 30 mins uphill at midday
tomorrow I am not leaving the house

tube was stuck for 10 minutes at temple today - horrible - so i decided to get off at monument, get some water, and walk home to bethnal green. which completely made up for it.

40C tomorrow in Paris, city of plasma more like

where are the usual miserable fuckers who hate sunlight

o hello

my ginger flesh, baked to crackling

drinking wine outside at 10pm pretending i'm not in england

it's so shit

Got up, got a through draught going, working in the dining room in the middle of the house with occasional forays to get a drink and put ice in the kitty water, sorry LJ but fuckit.

glorious weather, love it. did the complainers enjoy shivering through the endless miserable bastard winter? this is our REWARD

i need to get some hot weather underwear tips, my gusset's so swampy you could grow cress in it.

I'm stuck indoors! :-( Working all week. Band practice for the next two evenings and then playing a gig in a dark room (with doubtless no audience as they'll all be in the pub gardens) on Friday.

wooly fabric on my office chair is definitely not helping things, i might start standing at my desk xp

it's over 30 degrees in the office and every time we open the windows the travellers camping opposite start a bonfire and burning tyre smoke comes in and we have to shut them again

also hardly anyone is here but all the people who are here are packed into one corner of the office. but then that always happens

seems like you should be dispensing the tips rather than requesting them Nick xp

cockroach problems of cockroach england itt made the clouds come back :[

my gusset's so swampy you could grow cress in it

the word gusset induces an irrational nausea in me and this may well be the most disgusting sentence i will ever read

Great idea to introduce a fleet of buses that you can't open a window in, cheers for that, Boris.

I just keep rotating bottles of water into and from the freezer, where they part-freeze.

Freezing your water bottle overnight is classic, especially when the melting starts and the iceberg in the middle of all that cold, cold water can only be described as a 'chilldo'.

the last time i heard a "word" like that it was slightly different and about a particular midweek club night in berghain

XXP - Yeah, those routemasters are supposed to have some kind of working air con I presume, caught one from Knightsbridge to Bond St yesterday and it was so damn hot upstairs, and they *still* smell of sick for some reason (new-ish moulded plastic?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rog8ou-ZepE

just had a meeting on the roof terrace in work - that is some of the hottest weather i've ever experienced in the uk. the air is thick.

a) commiserations to everybody made ill or miserable by this heat

b) god i fucking love it

b) otm, will get back 2u on a)

I won't wear shorts at work so I won't pretend this was the most comfortable day but yeah, it's great

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v472/birdnestsoup/map.jpg

whereabouts on this map did you say you were again noodles vag?

orange cusp of the red bit!

wd've worn shorts today but i was presenting an awareness sesh and felt too shy

36.7C at Heathrow - think that's an all-time July record. Still going to be 25C at midnight. Good for failing to fall asleep in front of the women's World Cup.

Can't wear shorts at work, wish I could.

It is amazing, let's have a summer of this please.

Just spent all day at work schlepping computer equipment in an office with broken air conditioning. Fuck this weather.

ah, with my windows open i can hear the first bellowing indeterminably, crockery-smashing dude meltdown of summer

truly the dog days have arrived

My train home was cancelled so I had to walk from Liv St to Old St to get home. Now I'm sat in my pants dripping all over my sofa.

You people are fucking insane. If this kept up all summer I would probably kill myself. Or maybe move to Norway.

a lot of trains in Paris have been down this afternoon because the heat is bending the metal of the tracks. it is nuts here. still 37c at 9pm

actually too hot for my baby to sleep in his room
only fans left at Maplins are desk fans ffs

Went golfing at midday today. Glorious. Only time other than teeing off before 6.30 in the morning where I get the entire golf course to myself.

Sleeping is tough though cos I work nights and bedtime for me is 5pm-midnight. Can't have the windows open because of the noise of kids playing in the street. Sweltering.

Flood warning as heavy rain forecast for England and Wales
Thundery downpours expected to deliver upto a month’s average rainfall over two days

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/aug/12/flood-warning-heavy-rain-forecast-england-wales-weather

I think Ireland's had it worse than the UK. I think we've had a couple of good days here and there but temperature hasn't massively risen and it has only been 2 or 3 days in a row with a lot of rain at the rest of the time.
Actually felt cold in bed last night under a duvet, not just the cover which I'd normally be using at this time of year.

from speaking to my parents i believe ireland has had it a lot worse, it was pretty sunny even a few weeks ago here.

this grey weather is terrible though. still not a particularly bad summer though.

Not the worst summer by any means, but has turned out to be a bad choice for a week's 'austerity' holiday at home.

fuckin pishin doon

My cricket team has had one match rained off all summer, and it's the one I missed by being in Scotland.

It's been a great summer.

In Glasgow, looks like it's going to be a nice, warm, sunny day. Can barely believe it. This has been the worst summer of my life, weatherwise.

Thundery downpours expected to deliver upto a month’s average rainfall over two days

sounds ideal, well predicted weekday rain getting it all out of the way at once, blazing sunshine for the rest of the month. no possible downsides.

my o/h is at a festival this weekend. kind of a bit concerned for her(!)

been putting off going out and the deluge still hasn't started, so it will definitely begin when i step outside, right

Getting quite hazy now in Glasgow. Looks like the wait for a full day of summer continues.

imago otm, (acknowledging my southern privilege of course but) a couple of stormy days per month as the price of a summer of fuckin Mediterranean weather is not a cause for complaint

In fact where I am it's nice and warm and sunny RIGHT NOW despite pissing down at the same time

(I do complain about the weather but only insofar as it interferes with the harvest)

I went to Scotland for a week and the weather was lovely there too. I don't get it. Is Glasgow just a rainy place by dint of its Western location?

Try being here more than one week.

Its pretty good today, its never like that for a whole week.

in Edinburgh.

Yeah again I do realise that the south ≠ Britain & not trying to say that anyone whose home has flooded should dealwithit.gif or whatever, just that for those that do live in these parts as I'm p sure some itt do, this has been a good summer as a point of fact

Oh, it rained at points, but the rain was light and fleeting. I was just East of Edinburgh. Even the 'bad weather' didn't feel that bad. And I got to see some sandpipers.

Good of you to put up with it for the one whole week.

?

very weird post.

east coast of scotland def less rainy than west. though colder. glasgow is the second rainiest city in britain, after cardiff. glasgow is top for number of days of rain, with almost 1 in 2 days bringing precipitation. also id bet the rainiest place in Britain is most definitely in western scotland/the highlands.

i once spent a fortnight in july staying at my grandparents' caravan on loch lomond, it rained every day, generally very heavy rain.

i live in vancouver now, a very rainy city. doesn't come near glasgow, and the rain, unlike in glasgow, tends not to be attended by a gale force wind.

also there's a definite summer here, every year!

Been listening to magic radio at work (mor station, based in London I believe but broadcast digitally across uk), the other day the presenter was like "it's so lovely to look at the weather map and see nothing but sunshine!........ Well, except there always seems to be rain in Scotland....but...uh...I suppose that's the beauty of it"

No idea what she meant by that, if she was just trolling scots or what

I like it when the weather is so bad it becomes a real social occasion

my summer anorak has turned out to be a wise investment but I could really do with some waterproof trousers

Its gonna rain here all day.

But that one week I was here was fine k tx bye.

The Great Manchester Sinkhole has caused a lot of excitement & managed to grind the entire traffic system to a halt, mb I should go and pay tribute and hurl an effigy of one of my enemies into it

It's got to be up there with the crap summers of bygone years.

Even if it wasn't a complete washout, there was often a horrible dullness from no sun/heavy cloud.

Yes, my impression is that (in London at least) it's been two days of sun, followed by four or five of heavy cloud, recurring almost as some kind of pattern. To be fair, not a great deal of rain, but today the classic bank holiday washout.

it is absolutely chucking it down, indeed.

it's sunny in glasgow! it's not a bank holiday here tho so i guess that explains it

It was alright until a week or so into August, then it just turned shit

My only problem with this weather is that although it's raining, it's still actually quite warm, so wearing a waterproof jacket results in a good deal of sweating.

the sweaty-when-youre-moving, dank-and-chilly when you're not is awkward it's true.

i have made plum crumble and am having sausages this evening. it's almost comical as late summer bank holiday weather.

At lunch I had strawberry ice cream for pudding. While it was wazzing down stair-rods outside.

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Clocks go forward for British Summer Time tomorrow, and predictably it's raining so much it's like living inside a car wash.

my shoes are making that sweet squelching sound that tells me (britishes) summer is right around the corner

Violent hailstorm here

Was lovely here an hour ago, people in shorts &c. Now pissing down & dismal

and High Rise is at a cinema near you.

Snowing where my sister stays (Lochwinnoch)

I agreed to cover my friend's farmer's market stall while she's in France, and wound up getting twice-lashed by horizontal rain and the aforementioned hailstorm. Not ideal on a bread stall - many soggy croissants sacrificed to the rain gods.

walked across the downs to my mum's house. v beaitiful mainly. then your horizontal rain lashed against the back of me while front remained dry.

Going to cinema with friend - sunny, why have I got a winter coat on?

Walking back to the tube - friend pulls out umbrella so we don't get drenched and winter coat decision justified.

Come on guys, bst or not March has never been summer

didn't go outside all day, I win

Went out twice. Got mildly rained on in the morning. Afternoon was worse as it alternated between slashing down with freezing rain and then howling cold winds.

It's barely Spring

Yeah - this may be more for the 'miserable pissy rain' thread, which often seems to be relevant on UK public holidays.

hung washing out today for first time, all was ok

xp Ah, that's what that thread was called!

Definitely seems like Spring today. For the first time this year.

It's lovely. I'm hanging something chronic today, wishing I hadn't come out in a coat

Lock it until June ffs

Freezing cold and drizzly where i am (dingy south coast seaside town), miserable pissy mist seems to be moving in off the sea. I'll have yr coat wins

Threatening to rain here, which it probably will do by later this evening.

I know it isn't summer yet but it shouldn't be snowing outside.

it's freezing

h8 spring so much, season of total bullshit

At least once a day over 25 years of London living, I need to tell myself, 'don't like the weather? Wait 30 minutes.'

i don't understand what everyone's going on about. it's been lovely and today is just normal.

You missed the snowstorm an hour or so ago then?

You can't escape from Prince these days.

AAAAAAAAAARGH, THAT SONG IS ABOUT MINNESOTA, NOT LONDON

bunch of eejits

there was some hail this end of the country. don't worry, it's been shitting it down practically every day since I moved here.

probably wise of prince to change the song name from 'it often shits it down in april'

'sometimes it shits it down in June / sometimes the sun goes round the moon'

This is unacceptable

cold/sun/rain/sun/rain/sun/rain/rain/rain/cold

Is it true that London was warmer on Christmas Day than it was yesterday? I think I can actually believe that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9RCyiC6odY

Is it true that London was warmer on Christmas Day than it was yesterday? I think I can actually believe that.

There was a day during Christmas holiday, maybe Boxing Day or the day after, that they said was warmer than the August Bank Holiday Monday had been. Maybe we've lost our seasons.

https://youtu.be/hsCdlX-5UjE

going to be a iffy year for tree fruit pollination, bit on the cold side for the flies to do their buzzy business

Christmas Day before last was very sunnny in London, easily comfortable enough for the outside seating at Starbucks Edgware Road to be very busy.

There was a weekend last December (19th/20th) where it was ridiculously warm, and I very much enjoyed the Hilton's Skylounge terrace in Tower Hill for late night cocktails.

/Is it true that London was warmer on Christmas Day than it was yesterday? I think I can actually believe that./

There was a day during Christmas holiday, maybe Boxing Day or the day after, that they said was warmer than the August Bank Holiday Monday had been. Maybe we've lost our seasons.

i went outdoor swimming in london on the 29th december and it's colder now than it was then.

I've had my heating on all day ffs

does feel slightly warmer this evening, but otoh i) I think I'm coming down with something, ii) my umbrella just snapped

It is impossible to get out of debit with your energy company when it is this cold in April ffs. I can cope with unseasonal coldness and still go for greenbelt walks in shit weather, but when it starts eating into my beer and wine budget it can get fucked.