I Has A LASIK

i want a lasisks

i had it done and lost both eyes

sweet

well if it isn't old chaki no eyes

don't do it

i say do it

My gf had it done almost ten years ago and she she claims it really improved her life.

i'm thinking of getting mine done next week too. milo, where are you and how much (ballpark) are you paying?

see i'm going to toronto for a month or so and might get it done when i'm there - seems about half the price it is in the UK.

I'm in Texas, going to the Kleiman-Evangelista Center and paying $3790 total.

I heard if you get this stuff and then go deepsea diving your eyeballs will explode or implode I suppose

barring catastrophe, it will be a vast quality of life improvement - I didn't wear glasses until I was 18, can't deal with contacts and have never gotten used to glasses at all. I will be able to see a Leica/Canon viewfinder without getting angry again! I will be able to scope out pretty girls without squinting and looking creepy!

also I can finalyl learn to kayak (which is a PITA with glasses or contacts)

everyone i know that has done it has given it the thumbs up

oh it is U&K for kayaking

http://www.lasermyeye.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-629.html

they are rather adamant about not guaranteeing 20/20 now

I will be able to scope out pretty girls without squinting and looking creepy! ;)

milzo, that's fairly expensive - is that one of the more expensice options? i know there's a range of ways they can do it and a range of prices. i loathe wearing glasses now, i thinkk it's because my hair is going greyer and my skin is getting more liney and the glasses just add to the feeling that i'm losing it. i kinda dug wearing glasses when i was young and better looking.

milzo?!

good for you, milo. everyone i know who'd had a LASIK says A+++++++ would do again.

(not because it's, like, fun or anything. you might get a lolly tho.)

That is fairly expensive, but it's all laser (CustomVue or something like that) instead of the old style where they cut a flap manually.

The only places that seem to be much cheaper (locally) seem sketchy.

I'll do it for 50 bucks and a cold beer.

beer first, I hope

For you, yeah. A few pitchers. Then hopefully anything I do will seem like an improvement and you won't give a shit anyway.

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/health/lasik.shtm

Still, I wouldn't do it. I don't mind contacts and the side-effects worry me.

I was working on a project with a guy when he had it done then ignored all the things he wasn't supposed to do (drink, hang out in smoky places, get dehydrated). The day after he had it done we were all out drinking hard in a smoky bar and he was describing the whole deal to us while we were doing lots of tequila shots when suddenly he stops short and yells "O MY GOD I'M BLIND!!!!!!" because that was it, he couldn't see. We drunkenly got him to an ER somehow and they fluidized him back up and he was fine after that.

So, don't do that part, follow the directions afterwards.

u rich, milo

one friend of mine has had issues--after initial success, his vision has deteriorated and he has to wear glasses again (contacts will no longer work).

everyone else i know has been totally happy. and if you don't wear contacts anyway, then hey, free dummy.

my wacky uncle got laser eye surgery at the start of the nineties at a joint in Mexico and it fucked up his life until this past year when he finally got it redone in New York.
That horror story aside, I'm desperate to get this done myself.
Definitely pay for the best, tho'.

My guitarist had it done 7 years ago, and now he can't look at a computer display for an hour without getting a headache. He paid a premium, too, going to some Stanford specialist who was so in denial about his fucked-up surgery that he put my pal on zoloft for the problem.

done

2:15 went into office
2:20 receptionist put a bunch of drops in my eyes, gave me a hairnet
2:25 called into surgery room w/ surgeon and two techs
2:27 HOLY SHIT DO NOT LIKE BEING AWAKE WHILE A LASER RAISES THE CORNEAL FLAPS
2:28 compared to pressure and weirdness of corneal cutting, actual eye procedure is not so bad, except when surgeon mops the cornea
2:29 DONE
2:30 head home w/ ride, already seeing things sharp, but with a kind of post-op haze
2:45 home, pop Valium I was given to take before the procedure
2:55-6:30 zzzzzzzzzz
now I'm awake and see well enough to function but not enough to do anything or read or watch TV, but I have to stay awake so I can put in antibiotic drops every hour

When my brother got this done, he got a prescription for a week's supply of Vicodin. Not me. :(

Did you get a lolly?

more milo z lasiks diary I am intrigued

me too.

day 2:
went in for 7:30 day-after checkup, even with lazy receptionist not turning down lights I've got 20/25 in both eyes on the projected eye chart, doc comes in and looks at my corneas or something, tells me to come back in a week

eat @ Waffle House, get the stinkeye from a cop because my face is puffy from protective goggles overnight, plus eyes are bloodshot and have huge hematoma splotches. Fried eggs are too runny, toast is too buttery, bacon too greasy. I think Waffle House is only edible if I'm drunk.

go home, back to sleep until after noon

as of now, everything is less soft-focussy, but still looks a bit like Sky Captain & The World of Tomorrow. Vision in left eye takes less work, is excellent. Right eye takes a second to adjust because it was always my bad eye and currently resolves better than ever.

have to go back next Friday for my one-week check and continue wearing goggles to sleep until then

ooooh a rich tough guy!

how is i gong now, Milo?

they did both eyes at once? seems odd.

there's an advert on british tv that gives a price per eye. always makes me want to get one done and buy a piraty eyepatch for the other.

instead of the old style where they cut a flap manually.

I will wear any kind of glasses in the world, rather than have people cut flaps in my eyes.

Oh, I meant to add that I think you're very brave.

I'M BLIND OH GOD I'M BLIND

'bout the same. Tired of the sleep goggles, plus waking up at 3:30am to rewet eyes, but my eyes seem pretty close to normal - right one still 'halos' a bit since it had more work done.

as of today on my one-week checkup
left eye 20/15
right eye 20/20

saw a movie without glasses for the first time in four or five years - so incredibly nice

good shit. i talked to my optometrist this week about it and he said laser-only more expensive type may be marginally better than lasik but takes up like 8 months before your vision clears up. He also said there's a new thing coming where they put 'lenses' on top of your own lenses more or less permanently, though when I asked him he said 'no they're not permanent contact lenses, blah blah blah...' and i still think it sounds like permanent contact lenses.

i asked them how they stay on and he said they 'clip' to this little piece of meat on the side of the eyeball he showed me on a big chart. I'm glad that contact lenses agree with me, i might opt to never do any of this stuff.

'asked him'

hey Jed -- go here in Ontario. It's about a 3.5-4 hour drive, but more than worth it. The Dr. has been doing it forever. He did my eyes three years ago and without question it changed my life.

how is milo'z eyez?

Same. Very good, still some flaring at night but about half as much and it doesn't bother me. 8-week checkup on October 7th or something.

Probably also helping my eyes a lot to be able to wear good sunglasses all of the time now compared to when I had regular glasses (and didn't/couldn't keep two pair available at all times).

probably also helping your REP.

I'm learning the fine art of shade tipping.

I get waveguide lasik tomorrow. Wish me luck!

Good luck!

Don't lose any sleep over it, it'll be over before you know it.

I hope I'm up for drinking by nighttime

yr glasses will be so lonely :(

I'll sell them (Gucci frames)

don't drink and take vicodin or w/e they give you

i, for one, will keep my glasses, they are so much a part of my life i'd feel naked w/o. worn em every waking minute of my life since i was 6, save when i broke a pair and had to go 24h with -6 vision.

don't drink and take vicodin or w/e they give you

RONG

I wouldn't mind being able to wear sunglasses, but it's not worth $4000 and my eyes being getting peeled back.

DIY Laskis

PP, my health plan lowers the cost for normal-LASIK or PRK below $1000 an eye.

"Being able to wear sunglasses"?

he can't wear sunglasses because he's always wearing glasses

So he can keep track of the secrets in his non-dreams

Oh, I just put my sunglasses on over my glasses, what's the big deal?

How many pairs of socks do you usually wear?

Prescription sunglasses?

prescription sunglasses are lame

i just suck it up like the cavemen did, it's not like the sun is for looking directly at anyway. why did evolution invent squinting anyway?

I've been meaning to get some, but they're quite a bit more expensive than the Walgreens kind.

http://www.opt.pacificu.edu/ce/catalog/16554-GO/Fig20rev.jpg

And are these yours, gabbneb?

yeah, the sunglasses thing is annoying. i still wear them for normal walking around in the summer, i'm just half-blind when i do.

http://www.thesportstruth.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/kadeem-hardison-as-dwayne-wayne.jpg

get some dwayne wayne's

gabbneb:

http://www.oxygen.com/Press/Programming/ADifferentWorld/images/Kadeem-Hardison.jpg

lol

I've always wanted a pear of those.

haha I mean pair obv

prescription sunglasses are lame

why?

yes, that is me!

so you think carrying around two pairs of glasses is acceptable behavior?

sunglasses are meant to be lost within a week, so i don't want to pay $$$ for them.

have a case with one pair and pair on your face? seems ok.

I only lose cheap sunglasses.
The $ ones stick around...

don't wear yr expensive sunglasses on this:
http://www.cssd11.k12.co.us/wasson/Departments/Math/Sinusoids%20Step%20by%20Step/batman_the_ride_02.jpg

my expensive sunglasses have been run over by the subway and are still going strong

Well it's either
a) prescription sunglasses, regular glasses in a case - disadvantage: makes you look like a pensioner if you wear the case around your neck.
b) big dark plastic thing to go over regular glasses - disadvantage: makes you look like the Terminator...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Terminator.jpg/200px-Terminator.jpg
or c) wear a hat when it's sunny, which is what I do - disadvantage: people think you're bald, like Jason PEBKAC.

Gabbneb, are you excited for the second avenue line?

is jon allergic to Retinax?

Wear the case around your neck? Put it in a bag, or a pocket. Coat pocket's easier, of course, and some pockets are prohibitive.

some pockets are prohibitive.

Why, do you have a pocket pack of kleenex in there?

jon, I dunno if the 2nd Ave line is gonna reduce congestion, and it might increase mallification on the Far East side, but if I lived a 10 minute walk from the subway instead of around the corner, I'd be pretty happy about it. I probably won't be living here anymore when it finally happens, tho.

Where do you want to move?

xxp - why yes, yes I do. my case works fine in suit pants, but is too hueg for jeans.

save the vicodin + valium they give you, you won't need it anyway.

The process feels weird, but not painful - they put your eye under suction, you feel the laser cutting the flap, then they mop your eye with q-tips or something and then the laser changes your eye.

It is just about the most helpless feeling in the world, though, since you can't move (body or eye) at all.

my prescription is 8.5 in both eyes and goes up about .5 every 5 years. i think maybe i'm not a good candidate for this.

=(

btw i own prescription sunglasses (rayban wayfarers). i don't understand what's the issue people have with them?

are you myopic? the tendency w/myopic eyes is you tend to get worse until you turn 30 or so and then you level out and eventually start getting far sighted. don't worry about 8.5--i am -10 in both eyes. double digits!!!!

it just seems like a hassle, to carry two sets of glasses, but i wear contacts anyway so it doesn't bother me

20/15 ^_^

PP, the answer is 3

What about those glasses that tint up in the sun and return back to normal when you come back indoors? Is it a requirement to be a child molester to wear those, or can anyone use them?

You look like a CS major (helps if you try to dress like The Matrix) or a molester.

lol false binary

CS majors don't molest kids, they shoot up skools or have "literary" (ie fat and pale) girlfriends

You look like a CS major (helps if you try to dress like The Matrix) and a molester.

FIXED BUT SERIOUSLY OTM

oh xpost jw wins

also, those transition lenses seriously fuck up your eyes and brain's ability to process bright lights, i used to have them when i was ten, and if i ever took them off it would DESTROY me

the woman narrating the new transitions lenses commercial has a voice so low and inarticulate, i thought the voice was marlee matlin's for a second

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jd-seq-OdU

PP, my health plan lowers the cost for normal-LASIK or PRK below $1000 an eye.

-- Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, March 12, 2008 2:22 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

does anybody ever get lasik on just one eye

CS majors also are likely furries (had a furry lab partner and a gay furry friend!)

does anybody ever get lasik on just one eye

People with only bad vision in one eye?

Momus

browneye

I'm going to listen to streaming radio all day tomorrow so any rec's would be nice.

I am -10 in each eye too.

No you won't, you'll be sleeping thanks to the calming meds they give you to keep your eyes closed for half a day. (xpost)

my boss said he didn't sleep all day

and vicodin + alcohol = A++

want to come to RSB?

hi

i can sort of see shit

It's a start!

http://i27.tinypic.com/6ozqqg.png

If I take my glasses off, I can just about read that. "the city knows when a rocket ship explodes" or something like that...

so jealous i want all this lasiks!

Me too, except I need a corneal transplant first :(

I need several thousand pounds first, er, which I'd then spend on something else...

Nobody's going behind my orbs...

Will jw keep wearing decorative indie glasses for cred?

keep dreaming, big guy

ok CHIEF

(xxpost) Like those indie hipster glasses that have plain glass in them? Popular with early Morrissey fans, then there was a resurgence with Jarvis Cocker.
Or alternatively, these:
http://www.taylors-shop.co.uk/acatalog/21135-300d.jpg

I listened to an audiobook of White Fang and ate sushi

do you see big dark blurs or big light blurs?

i have some weirdness on my left eye but my right eye is seeing the best ever. light sensitive

Went to the doc today. 20/20 and improving!

Oh what I would give to have lasik eye surgery work for me.

> there's an advert on british tv that gives a price per eye. always makes me want to get one done and buy a piraty eyepatch for the other.

or a monocle.

(advert quotes £395 for one eye = cheaper than america by some way)

the advert is just to tempt you, you WILL NOT get change out of £1500. of course, to advertise it this way someone must get it for £800 but i'm not sure who those people are - possibly people who have had it done already and are having a top up?

incidentally, John got wavefront LASIK which will cost you considerably more in the UK than £1500.

i guess i need to focus my projector for dvds now huh?

JW and MIlo, how are you feeling about your Lasic ops now?

I don't even notice it. A little bit blurry drinking on patios with bright lights at night but I never even bother using eyedrops. I would say that I have effectively perfect (or better) vision with no annoyances. Best thing I ever did.

cool, i want this done so bad. what are the chances of you needing to wear glasses again in the next few years? i take it your vision will deteriorate to an extent?

They seemed pretty optimistic that I wouldn't notice anything significant until middle age.

Hmmm, I wonder how it would go if I didn't have the procedure done until middle age?

(PS, I'm already there.)

my friend and both his parents (in their 50s at the time) all had it done at the same time and none of them have had any real problems, all super glad they did it.

They seemed pretty optimistic that I wouldn't notice anything significant until middle age.

― html tarsier (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Thursday, September 11, 2008 8:26 PM (1 month ago)

so does the operation not provide permanent improvement? like does it only provide improved vision for x number of years before vision starts to deteriorate again? or is it just an individual thing?

You'll still (probably) develop presbyopia as you get older (LASIK doesn't do anything for that), and I guess there's always a chance of your myopia getting worse depending on the physical makeup of your eyes.

oh ok. i'm thinking of getting this done, so i'm just trying to figure out how worth it it is. how many years of "use" will i get out of it before my eyes go to shit again. how are your eyes nowadays, milo?

SHOULD I GET LASIK SURGERY?

my glasses are always smudged and i never have the correct cloth around so now they are scratched from rubbing it against my shirt. also the other day i was wearing contacts and i touched my eye after putting red pepper flakes on my pizza and must have gotten some red pepper residue in my eye. it was excrutiating and embarrassing.

also three times over the past year people have decided to draw pictures of me. in all cases i am just a circular cartoon head with enormous glasses. is that who i am?

so you'd rather be just a circular cartoon head? idk man

I think it would be cheaper to send those three people to art school.

i just kind of hate glasses but my eyes are much less tolerant of contacts than they used to be. even without red pepper flake exposure.

the worst is when i put them down in my apartment and can't remember where i put them. my vision is bad enough that i can't just scan the room -- i need to go up to each surface and squint and look closely to see if they are there. i am only 25. i should not be such an invalid. however, i've heard that there are complications of lasik and they worry me...

(apologies for using the word "invalid." that's not a good word to use.)

at the very least you should invest in scratch resistant lenses, Treeship. I knock my glasses off my face all the time, wipe them with tissues, etc., and they don't have a scratch on them after a year and a half of abuse. my previous (non-scratch-resistent) lenses all got very fux0red very quickly under the same conditions, so the $30-ish upgrade was definitely worth it for me.

that is good advice. i actually thought these were the scratch resistant ones, but they do have a few very distinct scratches that i can see while wearing them. these lenses are two years old at this point, so maybe it makes sense that they'd be a little scratched.

i don't really have money for LASIK surgery anyway. but i would like to get it. going blind in twenty years would be worth not having anyone ever tell me that i "look better with glasses" ever again, i think.

nb, i like my specific frames very much. but i don't like them being a semi-permanent feature of my face.

if anyone has experience hating glasses or getting lasik surgery i'd be interesting in hearing your thoughts

LASIK is the best $4k I ever spent.