Big Brother 2007 (UK) Thread 3: In the future, we will all be on Big Brother for 15 minutes each!

the clouds have lifted

so chanelle has actually walked then

haha The Long Goodbye

I bet she doesn't actually go at the end of all this.

Ziggy is always kind of amusing in these situations because he is painfully, acutely aware of how much of a cunt he's making himself look on national TV and yet is powerless to stop himself from doing so again and again and again.

why was carole being so dickish to chanelle btw? not saying it wasn't justified - i don't know - but it did seem to be of a piece with all of carole's previous "look, i'm just giving up on you/this"

She's still in the house on the live feed, talking about how she'll "just stay tonight, then see".

"this is my last ever post to ILX"

Next year they should institute a rule that the first time you go in the Diary Room and say "I want to leave" the door opens and they hoy you out there and then.

cathy told me chanelle had gone!! I was so disappointed

chanelle saying she wants to leave is much more understandable/excusable than ziggy doing it. and he has done is approx nine times

she would only be leaving because of ziggy complete lack of maturity/communication skills regarding his emotions and just cos he's a tosser like. I can't stand him! and liam massaging his ego all the time! they both think they are "good people" and "sound blokes", no doubt, but they are really bad. really really bad. she'd also be leaving because of carole's totally bizarre behaviour. like she did w/ nicky--cutting her off. a bit more understandable in the case of nicky since they had had a few proper clashes and nicky had been muttering about her, etc. carole's supposed to be caring but she just decides who she's going to like or protect (ziggy???? despite their numerous clashes. and charlie, because she said she liked her, in the fake eviction, but who still treats her like crap re: tidying up/cleaning, etc) and then ostracises everyone else. she's bad, too

I hope chanelle stays. I want her to have a proper eviction, at the very least

ziggy without chanelle in the house would be much less of a thing to see/enjoy than chanelle without ziggy

She has not gone, has she?

A bunch of cunts called C4 to complain that Zigguh was giving cunts a bad name.

no she's not gone

The BBC are still "waiting" on her decision...

.. and now she has!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6921397.stm

Heh, that's the same URL the BBC used yesterday when she "left", then again when she didn't.

Tracy's reading an announcement out to the house, it looks real this time.

Not that the housemates are bothering to get out of bed/stop sunbathing to come and listen to it, she's read it out about 3 times in different bits of the house.

ziggy the dick

well the number of housemates leaving this year really proves that BB needs to be canned now. not even the HMs can be arsed to stay in there.

it should really be zigggy leaving though - not chanelle. cant believe she thought HE deserves to be in there more. she clearly likes him too much, poor girl. i wonder what her view of him wil be when she sees some tapes.

Kara and David are going in to the main house.

Seems fair enough.

Wasn't two existing hm's supposed to be going?

Well they're not in yet, you never know, someone else might walk before then.

The other three are still there, Ziggy's living with them now and has to choose another housemate to go in with him tomorrow. After watching BBLB it doesn't look like they've decided where any of this is going yet.

God, Big Brother didn't half drag that out!

http://www.ravenmetal.com/images/closer.jpg
scene outside the diary room...

Jesus, anyone would think she was dying.

I've been on holidays for the last two weeks, and this is my first BB back. I miss Charley. She would have swept Chanelle out the door and pushed the door closed after her.

Dear god! What's that?

After watching BBLB it doesn't look like they've decided where any of this is going yet

bblb is just the show about the show

My guess is that the five halfways, and the two housemates (Ziggy plus one), get put up to the public vote and the top two get to go (back) in.

The public, having a sense of moral outrage, will vote ziggy out, and as they are sadistic basts, will vote Jonty as well. (Along with whoever also is in from the main house)

Jonty is awful! In fact, all of the halfway people are awful. Especially the tubby one who was lapdancing Brian and Liam. Do people really pay her for that? She is NOT attractive.

That dance was a pure "That'll get them voting for me" moment of wrongness.

It was awful! I felt a bit let down by her, too, because I was very proud of her for just whipping off her top when getting changed, like you just would, without any of that showering-in-your-cossie coyness that slightly annoys me about the British show (unless they're told to? Hmm, I never thought of that. Could be a watershed thing), but then she spoiled it with her strange wiggling.

Kara-Louise seems alright, but then again she hasn't really done much other than smile at people and be posh.

Last Updated: Tuesday, 31 July 2007, 07:14 GMT 08:14 UK

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New Big Brother housemates picked

David works in Ayr while Kara-Louise is a student from Harrow
Contestants on reality series Big Brother have chosen two new housemates from the five people who entered a so-called "halfway house" on Friday.
Student Kara-Louise Horne, 22, and store manager David Parnaby, 25, are now eligible for the £100,000 prize.

But participants also had to pick one person who would swap the main living area for the "halfway house".

And Ziggy Lichman - who saw on-off girlfriend Chanelle Hayes quit the show on Monday - then put himself forward.

"I wouldn't mind a bit of time, I'll do it," said the 26-year-old former pop singer and model. "Seriously, it can't get madder than this."

Later he told Big Brother in the diary room that he had had a bad day because of the departure of Chanelle, whom he described as "someone who I will miss a lot".

Ziggy and Chanelle exchanged insults during a row before she quit
Before she left the programme, Chanelle, 19, had explained how she felt she could no longer live in the same house as Ziggy.

"He probably deserves to be here more than I do," said the student, who wants to be a professional Victoria Beckham lookalike.

Ziggy now faces a battle against the three other contestants in the "halfway house", all of whom must compete against each other to try to stay on the programme.

He joins Jonty Stern, a 36-year-old who works in a museum; glamour model Amy Alexandra, 21; and Shanessa Reilly, a part-time care assistant who is 27.

Ah, it's the old style playoffs, innit?

Sounds like a straight swap, Jonty for Ziggy.

I think everyone still in the halfway house is going on Friday, plus one other.

Why? Why would they need to stay in the 1/2 house then?

Now Liam's in the half way house and Shanessa's in the main one.

Who's Sarah?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2003230001-2007320210,00.html ?

In February, he was reportedly dating Sarah Bosnich, 34, the ex-wife of former footballer Mark Bosnich.

Thanks V.

I lost all sympathy for Ziggy when he did that thing of trying to shout her down, then realising he couldn't, because she was louder and shriller than her, he tried to tell her to lower her voice and calm down. A tactic guaranteed to make me want to punch a bloke right in his stupid gob.

Big Brother's Big Mouth:

Charley and Chanelle sat next to each other, while the audience debate them both, right in front of them.

oh, and they've just told Chanelle who Sarah is.

i never thought i'd say it but this is shit now that chanelle and charley are gone

and tracey still in!!

boo

Oh, I thought you'd say it!

do you know charley?

Before she was yer man's cousin no less?

I am finding the diaries of Chanelle and Charley strangely rivetting.

Chanelle:

Then I went to a well-known store and I got loads of free clothes! Loads of free clothes that would have cost loads, for free! So that's good in't it?

Charley:

Tuesday

This morning I woke up cos I had to go and do a thing on a radio station -- so I went there and I spoke to I think it was like, 37 or something radio stations. It was meant to be 57 or a bit more but I only done those and stuff and then I left there with someone who works for my agent.

We went shopping in Bromley, me and my sister and my mum. It was too wild, you couldn't move, babe. People were coming up to me and literally crying 'Charley we love you so much and we're never gonna watch the show anymore' -- just so you heard that, I'm only joking, but no, they did. 'We not gonna watch the show no more blah, blah, blah' and stuff like that and you just couldn't move.

I went back home, tried on a few outfits and we had savaloy and chips, which was quite nice.

Oi oi saveloy!

P.S Is a saveloy just a smoked sausage with a fancy name??

;_;

NO! ITS NOT!

Smoked sausage >>> saveloy, though saveloy is still nummy.

Charley seems determined to believe she is the most popular BB contestant ever regardless of the evidence.

"iBB - How has being in the House changed you?

I still think Victoria Beckham is brilliant, but now I've been given the opportunity to create as much of my persona as I can and that's what I want to do. I definitely don't want to be a part of the pretentious life style that I thought I did. And that's a really good thing. I'm actually pretty OK ha ha!"

awww

hmm but then:

"Then we picked up a make-up artist up and then came here to meet Dermot O'Leary! (Chanelle screams with excitment) Oh my goodness! Crazy times!"

Something tells me she's not actually writing that diary herself.

(I don't envy whoever's transcribing Charley's diary)

RJG: no.

I don't know whether this has come up before, but am I the only person who's fascinated by Brian's hair?
He may be the first black man I've ever seen with a combover - and a good number of my relatives are balding black men.

Also, he seems to have his hair relaxed just to facilitate the combing over of his bald spot. I find this inexplicable. I know that a man's hair means a lot to him (especially a young man) but the standard method that young black men use to deal with male pattern baldness is to simply shave the lot off. Is he unaware of this or does he just refuse to be like the herd?

Just watching last night's show now. Ziggy really is the cnut's cnut, isn't he? To think I thought he was OK as well...

Ailsa, I wanted to kill him last night. Fucking kill him.

I don't know whether this has come up before, but am I the only person who's fascinated by Brian's hair?

It kind of makes him look like Nat King Cole.

accentmonkey, I'll gladly hold him down to make sure you get a good go at him. I'm still fairly limited in my overall sympathy for Chanelle, due to her avoidance of clanging great warning signs and willingness to keep going back for more, but holy shit, he's a great big steaming bag of dicks and proved it in spades last night and she'll be such a better person if/when she realises what a tit she's made of herself and how she's worth much more than being belittled by that arsehole.

You are right. Man, that douchebag better not be in Glasgow to see the Arcade Fire in October.

Dear God, I can't keep up with all this house-switching bollocks.

Also, how's nominations working this week? Have they decided, or are they fudging it until they work out how to put Charley back in or something?

They are so over Charley. It's all about Chanelle now.

Watch them go about getting her back in, somehow!

Brian singing "Fit But You Know It" was the sweetest thing since Thread 1.

OK, just seen on BBBM, they've got the last inhabitants of halfwit house (Liam, Ziggy, Amy, Jonty) to all go into the main house and choose four people to replace them, the four current halfwits are now up for eviction: Tracey, Shanessa, David and Kara-Louise.

DEAREST CHANNEL 4, STOP FUCKING ABOUT WITH THIS IT IS A SHIT IDEA AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

Right, the four in the halfhouse have swapped with four that they chose from the main house.

Zig, Amy, Jonty and Liam are now back in the house, David, Kara-Louise, Shanessa and Tracey are in the halfhouse.

Presumably they will be up for the vote for 'promotion'.

Presumably, Tracey will win.

xpost MY NEWS DAMMIT!

Mind you, she was furious.

Right, so the HHMs are currently David, Grinny, Shanessa and Tracey. I'M SO EXCITED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT.

Haha double xpost with the news.

This is ridiculous fannydangle. Thing is, the show was doing absolutely fine on the relationships between the various housemates in the first place. They didn't actually need five people AT ALL especially when one of them is Kara-Louise who has apparently done nothing all week.

I did enjoy Ziggy and Liam bitching about David though. This BB has been overdue a Jungle Cats moment.

I hope Brian and Amanda actually get it together. It would make me happy.

Brian too!

I missed this all week. Why were they bitching about David? xpost

I think they're all bitching about David because he seems to be, as I thought from the beginning, a bit of a cock.

This is a gem from Liam, and I struggle to think it's actually a term of endearment in the NE:

Later, Amy began to get tearful in the bedroom, causing Liam to insist: "Don't be upset - you crazy minge!"

Startled by his comments, Amy replied: "I don't know how to take that but I wont worry. I'm quite impressed though you managed a bit of sympathy."

At times I sort of think Liam is playing the kind of game Ziggy thought he was playing all along. Then I remember he's got all that money so can probably get away with relaxing and doing what the fuck he wants.

If he wins, does he get another £100,000?

He's not going to win, but yes, presumably.

Actually, he might win, if the racist Great British Public opt for him over Brian.

I think if there's ever a geordie (or thereabouts) housemate, they're always a hard one to beat (NE block vote plus the general 'people like the accent' supplement).

I think Brian might have actually achieved it though.

That's true but any NE block vote is going to be split between three housemates who are likely to make it to the final, and everyone loves the twins now.

Are the phonelines open at all this week? If not, I'm standing by my guess that everyone in the halfway house will be evicted on Friday. If it stays the same, it's a bit harsh on Tracey if she doesn't get a proper eviction interview but I can't imagine it would be exactly riveting anyway.

The twins aren't NE though.

I think Tracey will win through.

They're from Newcastle aren't they?

...under Lyme.

yes, under lyme.

South of Manchester. Nice place.

Sam and Amanda still haven't had a single nomination. Paddy Power is offering odds on who will be first to nominate them.

1st To Nominate Sam

Tracey 6 - 4
Carole 2 - 1
Ziggy 4 - 1
Gerry 7 - 1
Liam 8 - 1
Brian 20 - 1
Amanda 50 - 1

1st to Nominate Amanda
as above except
Sam 50 - 1

The twins actually hold the house together. This is the first year in ages that hasn't split into two bitterly warring factions (Charley and Nicky vs everyone else doesn't count) and I'm not sure whether that's down to the personalities involved or whether it's because everyone is in the twins' orbit all the time.

This is the first year in ages that hasn't split into two bitterly warring factions

We were saying this exact same thing last night.

but it kinda did - with charley, nicky and tracey (until the main two got kicked out).

also, what exactly is a 'jungle cats moment'? is it just two hugely unpleasant men sulking in a room, or something more profound than that?

I think it's more that it's two blokes who quite like each other having a laugh at someone else's expense.

And plotting to "get" them, without being specific about how they're going to achieve this getting.

Bros Before Hos.

Liam didn't really plot though, did he? It seemed to be all Ziggy to me, with Liam vaguely nodding occasionally (probably cos he mind was zoning into what he'd like to do to Amy, bless him).

I think he was trying to focus on knockers over spots.

I did love his "I can't bothered to be all Senor Smooth with ye the night". It was very clearly him saying "I'm desperate, you're up for it, please can we release my little troops now and chat later."

what about jonty and his v clever system to curry favour w/ each and every part of the british isles?

also,

suzy: wow

I was wondering about Jonty's t-shirts. I thought maybe Big Brother would warn him about sending messages to the outside world, or something.

Right, finally here we go!

In last night's shock twist, halfway housemates Amy, Jonty, Liam and Ziggy were given full housemate status - but then had to choose four unfortunate housemates to boot back to the hellish Halfway House.

They chose the three original halfway housemates left in the House - David, Kara-Louise and Shanessa - plus Tracey. These new halfway housemates will all face the public vote this week.

And we can reveal that tomorrow night will be a double eviction! The two halfway housemates who receive the most votes will face the chop.

Why the hell is Amy getting all the blame for that? It was Ziggy that suggested those three should go, and it seemed a reasonable reason for choosing them.

who are these cunts presenting bbbm?

BBC3 CELEBS

When I read this thread yesterday I thought that was kind of a rub twist but it did a pretty good job of stirring the house up. I presume Shannessa and David threw their toys out of the pram because they thought Amy should have stood up for them? And Jonty was too ineffectual to say much so he kind of got away with it?

David and Shannessa to go tomorrow I assume.

They're all mixing in the main house on the live feed at the moment, and they're talking about Amy and the other three choosing people. And they seemed to have worked out that Carole was lying when she said Amy had accused everyone of having gameplans.

would like david to leave

I think those two cunts presenting BBBM are the best ones so far. Pretty funny last night.

Why the hell is Amy getting all the blame for that? It was Ziggy that suggested those three should go, and it seemed a reasonable reason for choosing them.

Watching this now, I get the impression we didn't see everything that was being said, and also she didn't appear to put up much of an argument in favor of the people she's been living with for the last week or so.

i think i saw chanelle in a black cab this morning. dressed in all black with shades on.

I saw Glyn from last year's BB in Cardiff last weekend. I thought "I know him from somewhere", then I realised that the little Chinese girl he was with was Lisa, and then it clicked.

God, Lisa. Another one for my 'BB contestants I had forgotten even existed' list.

She was the proto-Tracey, really.

I think Lisa stopped being a mechanic and started being a plumber. Big Brother changed her life.

For a minute there I thought I'd clicked on the Simpsons Movie thread.

I am quite liking Tracey now she gets a bit more time on camera. Part of losing the Charley and Chanelle axis is that the others get a bit more screentime and you start to realise that eg the twins aren't just a caricature.

The higher the ratio of men to women in the house, the more comfortable Tracey seems to be. She genuinely seems to like the men more.

For first evictee:

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1049865

For Second evictee:

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1049868

Click if you want to know, and if you don't want to then, um, dont.

Thanks Mark!

Jesus, has my life really so few pleasures in it that I need to get a thrill from the uncertainty of the Friday night eviction? I guess so.

I will now stay off this thread until after the evictions have been announced, and you can all talk about the poll.

Thanks Mark!

Hmm. Meant sincerely, yet appearing sarcastic.

Not at all, not at all.

I'm on the train journey, so will miss it. But I kind of guessed who.

sredni vashtar?

You guys didn't even talk about it! I've been staying off this thread all afternoon!

Gah.

OK, so David and Shanessa are out. Tracey seems v popular with the eviction audience (boos for David and Shanessa, sort of meh noise for Kara-Louise, actual cheers for Tracey)

It's actually good just now. This what Matt said "Part of losing the Charley and Chanelle axis is that the others get a bit more screentime and you start to realise that eg the twins aren't just a caricature" is spectacularly OTM. I was watching earlier with the mister who doesn't watch or get Big Brother at all, and was trying to explain my own criteria for liking housemates, and started to realise I don't actually get a fair go at any of them any more, and haven't since the first series, when they tried to make it more like telly that'd get talked about and less like a social experiment.

(yo, my glasses are tinted rosy)

Holy god though, Brian's got a huge cock, eh? EH?

My uni flatmate J0e and friend V1ck1 will be in the audience of Big Brother tonight. I'm not gonna watch it, but look out for a 19 year old sunburnt girl who looks like Sharon from Eastenders who is clearly relishing every nanosecond spent on screen.

Oh aye, my first thought at Brian's cock was "I should be posting about this on the internet" which makes me the saddest person in the world (yet I regain non-saddo points by forgetting about it again until reminded). But really, that could actually do his knees some damage.

but look out for a 19 year old sunburnt girl who looks like Sharon from Eastenders who is clearly relishing every nanosecond spent on screen

Er, that's Samanda, innit?

No, no, "really" like her, as in, identical. Except her hair is darker.

Well, that was pretty unpleasant, wasn't it?

I suddenly feel fed up with all this. Of course, that won't stop me watching it.

I didn't watch the eviction interview. Was it awful? I am watching Last Comic Standing instead.

I am a bit fed up with it too. the halfway house thing has been rubbish. I wonder what they can do to make this interesting again.

To be honest, my sudden pro-Tracey stance is mostly due to:

Tracey: "I tell you what you wouldn't do"
David: "What?"
Tracey "Piss on Amy if she was on fire"

This has all actually served to galvanise the original group beyond all measure. I can't see them nominating anyone other than Amy/Jonty/Kara Louise next time round. It's uber-pally now.

sredni vashtar?

david turned into a real jerkwad didn't he?

this whole week was just a wash in the end. but it is strange what perspective can do. i never thought i'd see tracey as the adult, the sussed one.

it's too bad they don't just let them end it like this, it seems like they're all getting on really well.

i think liam secretly wants to join the circus.

liam's a fucking dick whatever I said so

I don't think I have ever seen a couple with less chemistry between them than Liam and Amy.

NEWS: THE TWINS ARE NOW ONE ENTITY!

The twins were transported back through time today, to Day 2 of their Big Brother Experience - and asked to make a very tough choice.

After travelling through the space-time continuum in the Diary Room time machine, accompanied by some very funky music, Big Brother played the twins a recording of themselves from Day 2: "We're just wondering if we're counted as one or two. Like, one vote, or two votes? Everybody keeps asking and we just don't actually know! So if we don't know now, would we know soon? It's confusing me."

The present-day twins laughed, listening to themselves. "I don't even know who's who!" they giggled.

"Amanda and Sam, you have just asked Big Brother whether you'd like to be treated as one housemate or two," Big Brother boomed. "Big Brother would like that decision to be yours. However, you must make your decision wisely, as both decisions come at a cost."

Big Brother then revealed that if the twins decided to be treated as one housemate, they would nominate together, be evicted together, and share winner status and money, should they win. But they would definitely face the public vote next week as one housemate.

However, if the twins decided to be treated as separate housemates, they would nominate individually, be evicted individually, and if either of them win, they would have their own winner's status and money. In a twist, the twins would have to choose one of them to face the public vote next week.

"Oh my God, this is evil!" the twins squealed, whispering for a while before agreeing, "100 per cent we do, don't we? Of course!"

Sam explained their thoughts in the Diary Room: "Big Brother, this is a bit obvious, because obviously we'd prefer to go up for nomination together than we would separate. I would never vote for her to go up for nomination, and she would never vote for me to go up for nomination, but even miss out that, we'd prefer to be as one anyway."

"I know!" exclaimed Amanda.

"I love it!" they yelled, squealing.

"Oh, this is so good! Please tell us this isn't a joke? We want it to be for real!" Amanda cried.

"Amanda, Big Brother is not joking," Big Bro confirmed solemnly.

I want to believe they thought the time machine was real, like they did with the psychic machine.

Probably the right thing, considering no one is ever going to nominate the twins and both would probably be hurt by a split vote in the final. They might win now, right?

Is this the smallest ever proportion of late doors housemates who were there right from the start? It's only Samanda, Carole and Tracey left now isn't it?

Tracey must be rivalling Ahmed for the all-time 'never supposed to have been in this long' award.

She's turned it around a fair bit recently. With Carole going off on one slowly but surely, she's become the voice of sanity. Ironically enough.

Reading a DS thread about Kara-Louise and somebody said she'll get to the final and "do a BB7 Jennie and get 2% of the vote". I actually had to google her as I had COMPLETELY forgotten about her.

DS thread OTM probably. Kara-Louise seems nice enough.

Poor lovely Jennie. She didn't deserve that. She was one of my favourites in that series.

So is next week the last week? God, the summer has gone by quickly.

WHAT IS THIS SUMMER YOU SPEAK OF?

It is the months when it rains and there are midges, as opposed to winter when it rains and there are no midges.

I have just looked it up and according to the BB8 Wiki there are three weeks after this one.

arr.

is this on?

The Daily star had it that Channel 4 were trying to get the Twins CHUCKED OUT!! by means of PUTTING THEM UP FOR EVICTION!!

Actually, they said they were up for nomination, didn't they?

Anyway, no-one will vote for them, and they might actually win!

their past separate votes must have influenced who was or wasn't nominated or evicted at least once

for them to be one drastically reduces their impact on noms obviously but it also kind of finally makes them a viable option for nomination since before people would have had to choose one and who really separates them other than brian and carole? and what is the likelihood that enough other people would want to nom the one you were nominating to make it a worthwhile nom? either that or if you really wanted one of them up for eviction you would have to use both your noms on them and that would look funny and feel like you were limiting the effect of your noms. now you could nom say ziggy and...the twins and get three for two

likewise people voting them to win of be evicted might have a sense that they are getting value for money on either direction of vote

I'm assuming C4 put them up for eviction by way of persuading the twins they were putting themselves at risk, when in fact they were doing no such thing because hardly anyone will vote for them. Especially when up against Amy (which they inevitably will be).

Ziggy OTM yesterday - "well whoever's up against them is absolutely fucked".

Except Brian.

would be good if knowing the twins were up made them all confident enough to nom people that the house think are well-liked outside but it'll probably just be the usual

any chance the twins won't nom carole and tracey?

none at all.

I assume they were in as separate all this time as Endemol were expecting the sisterly bond to break up at some point. That hasn't happened at all!

Gerry failed the History task....

Gerry and Jonty have returned from their Time Travel History Test Task in the Diary Room.

Did they pass? No. And Liam hasn't stopped teasing Gerry about failing.

"It must have been a bit of a kick in the gonads today Gerry," Liam blurted out, "failing the History Task."

"It was a big kick in the nuts," explained Gerry, "because I don't think it was a good combination."

"It's the thing that you've brought into the House and talk about the most, but you didn't manage to pass," Liam half joked.

"No," retorted Gerry, "because I don't think none of you would have done better. You'd have probably got four out of ten instead."

"The thing is you should have probably picked somebody who knew more about history," suggested Liam

"I don't think anybody will have done much better," said Gerry.

"I'm just winding you up," admitted Liam.

"It was so close," sighed Gerry, "it was just the last question. It was fifty-fifty."

"You were right about people failing stereotypes in this House," teased Liam, "if your stereotype is somebody knowledgeable about history you've changed that completely."

"What are the seven wonders of the ancient world," challenged Gerry.

"We talked about it only two nights ago," said Liam, "I was helping you out when you were saying them."

"I knew the seven wonders," protested Gerry.

"Well done. You got that right. What I'm saying here is," asserted Liam, "for somebody who's an expert in the subject you let yourself down. Not only did you let yourself down, you let the team down. How do you feel about that Gerry?"

"How could I know about Uruguay winning the world cup?" Gerry protested.

"I'm just kidding!" said Liam.

Fact or fiction... that makes, um, 'friction.'

Funnily enough, "Who was the first winner of the World Cup" was my triv question over the weekend. Which I got right, to general "How did you know that???" type responses.

Obv! I watched Big Brother IN THE FUTURE!!!!

jokes bruv

Liam OTM.

OK, Brian's so enthusiastic. What I like is that he's so unashamedly a *fan*. This OMG it's BB3, Spencer, man!" thing is brilliant, see also when they were on the phone to BB Australia and he knew who they all were and was shouting "google me, I'm Brian from Big Brother 8 UK!", bless his cotton socks.

OMG, actually, I went OMG myself at Alex and Adele, tbh.

OK, Brian now just a bit creepy.

good episode tonight. amanda was so cute when she was going "you're cringing me!" I hope this new brian/amanda thing doesn't end in tears. brian and kara going back to 2002 was brilliant!

OMG Mind blown.

Brian is a bit creepy, but I think it's the kind of overbearing sexdrive creepy that lots and lots of 19 year old men have, more a result of insensitivity and a blind rush for a perceived goal than anything. Watching him totally reminded me of being that age, on which basis I predict he'll be heartbroken to the point where he leaves the house within a week. Lol Kara-Louise's cynical attempt to become a celeb couple misfiring tho. Unless she's planning to score him on the rebound. Akshully that wd be genius. Les Liaisons Dangereuse a-go-go.

Heh, they've just shown Kara, Amy and Jonty tapes of them being nominated.

Brian was a bit teenage-creepy because he was HAMMERED but Amanda didn't seem to mind. Still, it made me happy, although for a second I thought he actually might chicken out and go for Kara-Louise (which admittedly would have been hilarious after her chat with Amanda in the bathroom).

It was all quite sweet really, this is the first time I think I've seen a BB couple that hasn't seemed boring, cynical, torturous or just plain wrong a la Pete and Nicky.

I just don't think they'll be a couple.

I know about uruguay

The Daily Star seems more out to lunch than ever..

Apparently, Chanelle is going back into the house after fans voted for her. The rest of the story is about how great an idea this is, and various texters (from where?) and their opinions.

Of course, by the end of the story, they state that none of this is confirmed and that Big Brother denies that this is even being considered.

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1050334

Tempty tempty.

Can anyone explain the Amy hate?

She doesn't seem to have done anything dramatically bad, anf yet "she's only in here to raise her public profile" yeah and everyone else is in it for purely artistic motives etc. "trying to cop off with Liam" umm she's not exactly been doing this full on either.

What's Kara-Louise smuggling under her skirt? Or is it some kind of bustle? I don't get why her lower half seems to protrude.

Has she been in the pool yet? That I can't miss.

amy really grates on me. she hasn't done anything to make me hate her, but the "I forgot to put on any knickers today" in her VT and "I've got a bit of a cheeky side" etc. was pretty vulgar. also watching her cavorting with liam despite them having no chemistry and no real interest in each other is all a bit nauseating (liam I think comes out of it worse, though). she just goes round calling everyone 'babe' and being kind of sycophantic as well. it will be interesting to see how she reacts to seeing people's noms.

it's funny how both tracey and ziggy said in their reasons for nomming her that they felt like she had 'replaced' chanelle and they weren't comfortable with it. I saw on digital spy that chanelle has been offered free breast implants, which she might accept. that saddens me.

I think Amy suffers badly from being late in to the show. She's possibly a perfectly nice person, but she doesn't have the WOW niceness of Jonty and Kara Louise (who, frankly, is so nicey nice that she's kind of cloying) and so she is less popular.

why will no one tell davina how to pronounce "bona fide"?

the WOW niceness of Jonty and Kara Louise!!!!

Why will no one tell Davina she's shit? (xp)

KARA-Louise describes herself as ‘extremely gorgeous and exceedingly bright’ and rates herself 10/10 for attractiveness.

Kara-Louise was privately educated and has says that when it comes to education, she believes that private schools are better than state schools. She also admits to having an issue with ‘common people’.

She is in her final year at university and says that in five years time she hopes to be working her way up the ladder in PR.

and jonty's just a bit mental

Here's hoping she doesn't fall off that "ladder"

the WOW niceness of Jonty and Kara Louise!!!!

By which I mean that they appear to spend 24 hours a day speaking in soft tones, agreeing with people, smiling, and generally just really trying very hard to be very, very nice.

I didn't say I liked them.

More twins should be made to skin and gut rabbits.

(Hopefully they'll show the bit that was on BBLB, where one of them says as a result of the trauma she's going to go vegetarian. For a week. Though she'll probably still eat chicken.)

These people got into university! To become social workers!

I know everyone thinks it's fun and hilarious, but I fucking hate the way Liam manhandles the women all the time.

OTM.

ziggy what a wimp that he has to tell gerry that he nominated him but he doesn't have to tell him that he's been talking about him behind his back w/ brian and liam and tracey and maybe others just earlier

I think BB has really shot itself in the foot here. The one taboo that they never broke was that they never revealed the nominations to people who were staying in the house. Now people will watch what they say when they go in to nominate, and the noms won't be as bitchy and fun.

Also, why is Carole wearing a bin bag? I missed that.

Jonty finally understanding that the HHMs should have stayed together as a power block might fuck up and future NEW HM insertions as well.

really enjoyed seeing liam having a tearful, funny-breathing kara-louise walking towards him saying "I'm sorry ... you find me ... boring" and "it's okay ... it just makes me feel ... bad ... about myself"

hahahahaha

carole is wearing a bin bag because she has repeatedly asked big brother for an apron, and when they finally put one on the shopping list it was PVC and £50.

Ah right. Thanks, Cathy.

Also I love Gerry going "there's a lot of hypocrisy here; I'm not calling you a hypocrite..."

So, UK BB evict a HM for the sort of racism the US gets het up about. The US fail to even show in the highlights, never mind act on, the kind of racism Europe gets het up about:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrotherintl/a70602/anti-semitic-outburst-on-us-big-brother.html

there are black people in the US and jewish people in europe

Well spotted.

thanks but I didn't know until you typed about it

You should get out more.

I get by

Good for you

I don't want to go out

I want to stay in

get things done

So, UK BB evict a HM for the sort of racism the US gets het up about. The US fail to even show in the highlights, never mind act on, the kind of racism Europe gets het up about:

But anti-semitism is more of a big deal in the US than in Europe surely?

What I mean is, they take it more seriously

now I don't know what to think

Let go

I'm not sure they do. I think they're more vocal about it when they protest, but I'm not sure their pressure groups like the ADL aren't necessarily more than Peter Tatchell being on Newsnight. I think anti-semetism is taken seriously at a public consciousness level far more over here.

xpost to dada

Maybe I'm completely wrong.

Either way, seems odd that they wouldn't even think it worthy of broadcast.

yes, it probably wasn't about worthiness

It's wise to distinguish between UK and Europe on this front (xposts)

I suppose so, yes.

was funny last night when jonty and gerry were having a quiet conversation just the two of them in the bedroom and jonty made a rubbish joke about magnate/magnet and then went off into his giggly giggly unstoppable moron giggles and gerry said "jonty, you have a wonderful way of shutting down conversations"

I won't be worried until you get out Monkity Tonkity.

um the reason it's not an issue is that nobody watches BB in the US

would still like to see them deal with it somehow

That last segment was pretty aggressively anti-Bramanda.

WTF is going on?

Liam and Amy just now NOT TALKING ABOUT ANAL SEKS was funny. But then "He goes in the huff if you're not talking about Mercedes' and cider" might have topped it.

http://www.welsh-forums.co.uk/fookinmama.png

Also, I can't understand what Brian says.

Brian is a bit like Wile E. Coyote at the moment, out in midair over the canyon with his legs still flapping and not quite aware that he's about to fall.

xpost Thanx for ruining that game for me :(

12!!!!

He's making it up as he goes along.

And what the fuck is Gerry wearing?

just moving it further down the page...

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1050334

The problem with BB (one of the problems with BB) is that the eviction nights where a late-joiner housemate is up for eviction are completely tension free. Obviously it's going to be Amy. And I have no interest in hearing what she might have to say. And, since we've already seen everyone who nominated her, there isn't even her reaction to the noms to look forward to.

A person might as well go out at this rate.

Amy's interview is going to basically consist of "THESE PEOPLE ARE NARROW MINDED AND NASTY: xxx,yyy,zzz,www,sss,(etc) (and these are alright, ddd,aaa,ttt)"

argh argh argh, went into newsagents, craptastic tabloids all full of Chanelle's imminent return. Showing them nominations then letting housemates back in (or in for the first time) armed with KNOWLEDGE = end times for Big Brother, surely.

Next year, they should put eight people in, give them fun, week-long tasks to do, then evict them regularly every Friday. Then watch them all go bonkers as none of them can suss that the twist is that there is no twist.

FFS I really hope that's just tabloid bullshit. It sucked when they put Nikki back in last year and it will suck again with Chanelle.

They should do one more year of regular BB, then have BB10 blowout, where they put the winners of all the previous BBs in for one last go round to decide the ULTIMATE WINNER.

Then they should stop.

Doubt it, because Chanelle is much less obnoxious than Nikki, and, well, she was never actually evicted. And it'll stir the whole thing up a bit.

xpost The Daily Star has already had their "BB WINNER TO GET ONE MILLION POUNDS" with that very um suggestion.

Every attempt at "stirring things up a bit" never actually works though. Just let the housemates get on with it. If they like/don't like the people they're in with, tough, stop flinging in more people to try and create more alliances/divisions. IT IS SHIT.

(but I still keep watching, what is wrong with me?)

Haha, this task designed to make them all look ridiculous, somehow makes Tracey look better.

Amy = OMG PUT THEM AWAY

Also, Brian's really good value as a judge.

(except for the whole "choosing Amanda's team" thing)

So, just me watching then?

Amy out. Of her dress, and the house.

Just you. I chose to watch the Stepford Wives on BBC 1. Man, was that a mistake. Worst. Film. Ever.

Okay, not quite, because Maybe Baby is still the holder of that title. But this one came close.

oh well

crosspost

britain never likes a slut

unless their fame is already established

Oh, Stepford Wives isn't on on BBC Scotland until 10.35 - I was going to watch it. Mostly because Ferris Bueller is in it. Is it really that bad? Even worth cringing at?

You're right about Maybe Baby though. Fucking appallingly bad. The book was actually funny and quite touching in places and it took all of that and turned it into a great stinking pile of kack.

xpost RJG OTM

britain never likes a ben elton

would like to flippin flip liam off a flippin cliff

Seconded. What a twat. I can't quite believe Amy is defending his twattishness.

By the end, I was sort of impressed by Amy's utter lack of emotional investment in the house or anyone in it. There was this steely "right, my career starts here" look in her eyes from the second she found out she was leaving.

I think Liam is fine, what exactly did he do that was so bad given that Amy wasn't exactly hugely arsed about him?

oh no it was just him always saying "flippin" that annoys me and him being a bit rubbish. nothing to do w/ amy, particularly

In all honesty, I think they're all basically alright. BB8 has been kind of disappointing in this regard. I remember watching in 2005 and hating every single one of them until Eugene turned up. That's what you want, really.

It was the whole bunch of clips they played back to Amy of Liam doing "wahey, I want to have sex with someone/her, I'd shag anything, me" etc just being blokey and annoying and she's all, oh well, blokes, huh? And didn't seem bothered about being a random bod used to satisfy Liam's urges, all "well, that's just Liam" and I think blokes acting like that are twattish and indefensible and if I found out someone was saying things like that about me then I'd be kind of upset. I thought she did look upset at one point, then brushed it away with a flick of the hair and a plastered on grin again though, but I wouldn't excuse Liam so easily, that's all. I think his little attempt at Jungle Catting with Ziggy isn't doing either of them any favours, just making them look small and petty and silly.

Well what he actually said was "I just want to have sex with her" which isn't any worse than Amy's "I just want to ride the fuck out of him". Neither of them were the slightest bit emotionally involved with one another.

Except Ziggy, every bloke in the house is practically dry humping the wall now. Gerry barely goes an episode without going "I need to have sex with someone". In any case Liam either decided against it or bottled out of having sex in front of millions of people.

Brian actually had us in tears during that Diary Room task today. "Woman... girl... vagina... vagina-person".

This is basically the Brian show now, isn't it?

Womb-having person.

sorry to interrupt, anyone know if ilx.com is dead? I have some threads bookmarked i cant access?

Yes we are waiting on the domain being re-registered. Use ilx.wh3rd.net or ilx.p3r.net instead.

Thanks, I take it all the old threads bookmarked are not available until the domain is re-registered.....

You could probably find them using the search button, or just change the address of your bookmarks to one of the working domains as the thread numbers will be the same.

e.g. Slightly mental question about dollar bills

:)

How very perceptive of you....Cheers. One more thing what the fu*k does the following mean? "tldr, nOOb"

"too long, didn't read, you talentless newcomer"

I thought masons were good at secret codes and stuff.

My idea of Hell, there, EVERY TEAM BUILDING TWATTING ABOUT EVER, ROLLED INTO ONE. Carole loving it, obviously, but she's done Native American Sweat Lodges and the like.

Jonty surprisingly looks exactly the part.

OH MY GOD TWINS ARE SO STUPID!

re. Gordon Brown being in charge of taxis, and giving money to the world, or is it the county?

um, country. I am not stupid, merely flummoxed by laptop with knacked screen and my inability to type.

but she's done Native American Sweat Lodges and the like.

Despite not being able to lie in a bit of fish juice for a couple of hours.

By the way, I don't want Reveal magazine.

Also, if I still have to watch my weight in heaven, I don't want to go there. Especially if it's full of blonde, bitchy angels.

Right, Brian's lecture on music was possibly the best thing ever on BB. I will not try and recreate the awesomeness:

People who are old will try and tell you that the Beatles were the best thing ever. They had loads of number ones and that and they was four geezers... Ringo Starr... and... and... three other geezers. But then after them came Mike Skinner and he does the Streets in the modern day and he is well good, the best thing out there. Christina Aguilera <writes Xtina on the board> redefined music because she said it was OK for women to be dirty and she was right cos she was well fit in that video. Then Beyonce <writes Beyonce on the board> took it to a whole other level and she was fit too. Then came Rhianna... <hooter goes to mark the end>

(he also had them all shaking their booties to Crazy in Love and whooping "it's OK to be dirty" to illustrate his points which only served to increase awesomeness)

Yes, that was brilliant.

Carole really took the hump when it turned out Jonty knew more about religions than her, didn't she?

I am still baffled by twins getting into university.

Gerry: "Leonardo da Vinci painted the Mona Lisa in the 15th century"
Twin (can't remember which one): "Is Leonardo da Vinci still alive"

Not being able to spell budget, despite it being on the case in front of them.

Editing so strongly in favour of stirring opinions of the "popular ones" Gerry, Liam, Ziggy, Brian and Samanda. We see so little of Jonty, Kara-Louise, Trayce and Carole, relatively speaking - I think it's quite poor form not to show their attempts at tasks too.

Um, Tracy, not Trayce, I have been on ILX for too long :-)

Ziggy is one of the popular ones?

Well, favoured more than popular. Same with Gerry. A favourite of the BB team for featuring in whatever light they see fit.

(I know they do this every year)

the twins got into university

That said I'm pretty sure they're engineering this guru task to make sure that all the housemates they want to keep in are saved for the final. I wouldn't be surprised to see the twins and Brian given guru status next.

Double Enlightenment
Day 76, 21:15

Sam and Amanda become twin Gurus as housemates fail to improve their bodies...

Following a second round on the assault course, housemates waited nervously to find out if they'd managed to improve their time by 10 percent.

The gang achieved a collective time of nine minutes, three seconds when they faced the course earlier. They were then given 30 minutes to improve their stamina and coordination before going round again.

They then gathered to hear the overall results...

"Housemates achieved a collective time of nine minutes and 17 seconds," boomed Big Brother. "Therefore, housemates have failed to improve and have failed the Body section of the Task."

As they got busy dissecting their performance, Big Brother spoke again...

"The housemate with the greatest body improvement - a mighty 46% - is Amanda and Sam."

The twins were completely shocked. "We've got the best improvement!" squeaked Sam excitedly.

"I get to make sandcastles," echoed Amanda.

And there was barely time for Guru Ziggy to offer his congratulations, before they were summoned to the Diary Room to accept their new-found enlightenment...

...along with two very fetching beards.

So how's brian going to win a 'self improvement' task?

i thought they'd engineered this task to stop the housemates just voting out the newbies - task based nominations gets rid of the popularity contest aspect, perhaps something they should've done last week.

way to win the 'mind' guru award - act dumb in the morning's test.

Yeah, I got the impression Carole had actually worked out that's what Ziggy had done - as soon as the improvement was announced, she quickly jumped in that it meant he had only got one right in the morning and three in the afternoon (two and six being pretty unlikely).

"What now?" asked Ziggy.

"Now?" joked Liam. "Now we dine in Sparta!"

According to BBLB its the gurus that decide who gets evicted this week

Is that the first time we've seen the twins have a disagreement?

OK, so the twins, Ziggy and presumably Gerry (lie detector test?) will decide to evict ....

Well, they wouldn't have the bottle to send Carole, and the twins would stick up for K, so I guess.... bye Jonty!

The twins nominated Kara last week though

And Tracy is the third guru, so maybe Gerry to go

hope not. hope ziggy would wimp out and go for jonty and that the twins like gerry enough and reuse their excuse for jonty from last week and tracey'll do whatever ziggy suggests

Yeah, still think it's Jonty that's vulnerable...

At least a double eviction this week surely? Probably Kara and Jonty to go I think.

Comes to something when Emdemol cnt be arsed to open the phone polls!

No money in it, is there.

The voiceover last night mentioned people being "up for the public vote". Could be a mistake, or maybe the gurus are just choosing from the two/three most hated. Or if it's a double eviction one could be voted out each way.

Aah

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/bigbrother8/a71793/big-brother-plans-guru-eviction-twist.html

At the end of the public vote on Friday, the two housemates with the most nominations will be revealed to the house.

Then it will be up to the Gurus to decide upon which housemate should be evicted during the live Channel 4 show.

I could see Carole going as a result of this, to be honest.

The twins will really struggle to decide who should go. I predict tears.

I wonder, is this a coincidence it comes so soon after Shannon Elizabeth said on BBLB that the way to make the show more popular was to adopt a more American take on it, with more evictions decided in the house than by the public?

Hang on, this could really backfire on Endemol. Let's say the public spend their hard earned cash on a vote to evict, and somebody - let's say Carole for the purposes of the argument - gets 60% of the vote. Everybody else gets more or less the same, but one HM gets 1% more - again, let's pick someone at random like Kara-Louise.

Which one are the gurus going to pick out of those two?

Public then feel like they've utterly wasted their money, less people vote, viewing figures go down etc.

yeah but you are not voting to evict

Erm... yes, you are. Voting to evict opens during BBLB tonight, the two with the highest number of votes will go in front of the gurus for them to decide which one of the two is evicted.

aldo possibly OTM. After last year's Nikki fiasco I thought Channel 4 would not get into a position where the public's vote did not count. This looks dangerously like a scenario that could happen.

Also, am I the only one who wants Carole out?

She has become hugely annoying, even when she has could reason to be angry, and her supposed 'revolt' against BB yesterday was actaully pretty pathetic.

Twins ftw, still.

...although, having thought about it, Endemol could argue that the sitution re: Gurus deciding was known to voters before they voted (as opposed to last year and Nikki being put back in).

you are voting for someone to be put before the gurus and possibly evicted

You're making Tuomas-like distinctions here, without the advantage of being a pervy nutjob Finnish.

I think the people who vote in BB have demonstrated on more than one occasion that they are too thick to feel cheated by this kind of stunt. They voted in droves to evict Charley even when they knew it wasn't a real eviction, for example. I don't think this will make any difference.

In fact, it might boost voting if people think that their vote is going to result in an entertaining dilemma for the remaining housemates.

Think of it as the public doing the nominations process but with the gurus granted immunity.

They did this kind of eviction a few years ago. The candidates ended up being Jade and mad scottish psycho woman. Now there's a parallell universe, if they'd chosen to evict Jade...

anyroad, it won't be Carole. My guess is Jonty vs Kara

I can see what you're saying, but I don't think the BB voting public are that thick.

The Charley non-eviction is different, that was a positive vote for a single person who the outcome of the vote would happen to.

I'm going to stick my neck out and say Carole vs Gerry.

But in Charley's case, the outcome of the vote was STUPID, and yet they voted.

Anyway, I think it will be Gerry vs. Kara Louise. I am sick of Gerry now.

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1051114

Here's some early doors...

ah, slightly later, um, doors now.

That lie detector task was some high-quality shit-stirring on Channel Four's part. A++. I did feel a bit for Gerry and Liam after that though.

Carole will be one of the two up in front of the gurus but there's no way that Ziggy will let the others stick the knife in (and I'm not sure they would, especially Tracey). Basically if any of the halfway housemates go up they're fucked, so it's bye-bye Kara I think.

I feel sorry for Carole as well every time there's a fite over food rationing. She's obviously trying really hard to help and doesn't understand why people might resent it.

I don't know. I find it hard to interpret her actions as helping, and see them more as controlling. If she doesn't even eat half the stuff she's keeping back from people 'for their own good' then why does she care? Let them figure it out for themselves. It's not her job to save people from themselves.

carole is mostly awful

She's to blame for the poor shopping budget this week, after they've penalised the whole house for Carole hoarding biscuits. Somehow, she is claiming this is Gerry's fault.

Also I hadn't realised she insists on organic veg, so she actually consumes far more of the shopping budget than she lets on. And since Jonty has joined the house she has insisted everything is Kosher, including the meat, even though he doesn't eat it. That hasn't come sheap either.

I also love her insistence on rinsing chickens under the tap, despite the fact that this practice went out with the ark and is in fact considered unsafe by food safety authorities.

oops

rinsing chickens under the tap

The rhythms of this phrase remind me of something

Oh no, Onimo is a CHILD POISONER!

"Don't rinse your chickens before they're, errrrrrrr, hatched"

I rinse everything I cook. Can't help myself.

As far as I know it's only considered potentially unsafe because of the risk of splashing bacteria onto other surfaces.

Bit of bacteria never hurt anyone. Salmonella builds character!

Bit of bacteria never hurt anyone

Try telling that to people who shop at Morrisons in Paisley

Oh my god, Carole's passive aggressive bullshit is unbelievable.

watching yesterday's show...

TRACEY MUST GOOOOOOOO (that's an elongated go not an elongated goo)

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1051114

ooh....

Who hasn't heard of Israel? She surely is putting that on.

TWINS = STUPIDEST PEOPLE ON EARTH x 100000000000000000000000000000

Twin: "ooh, it says Blackpool in the rock" *squeal*
Other twin: "oh, does it?"
Big Brother (weary with sarcasm): "that's because it's from Blackpool"

This amazement at EVERYTHING = dull dull dull dull dull

OK, I really really hate the twins. SO STUPID AND ANNOYING.

(I am drunked and hate wilfully stupid people)

Gerry does the decent thing and falls on his sword and tries to look selfless while Carole weeps like a great big bairn. Think he realises neither will win so he's looking better for doing this, at all?

Can't people just be decent?

Would have been better if gurus had been called to the diary room and allowed to decide without self-serving selflessness.

As in, I think Gerry is a tit, but was given perfect opportunity to look like less of a tit than Carole, and took it. Perhaps would have looked more tittish if evicted in a straight fight without getting to engineer it himself.

(that's Gerry's self-serving selflessness, not that of the gurus, who would have gratitude of remaining housemate whatever happened, but would have been funnier if Tracey had saved Carole anyway and left Zippy to think on his own)

hang on, got that wrong. Meant that twins would have saved Gerry without outside interference, I think, since Sam was on his side pre-eviction vote, Tracey would have saved her pal Carole, leaving Ziggy to make an actual deciding vote and given that he's been falling out with Carole this week, eviction might have been different.

Either way, twists are shite.

http://www.multinet.no/~jonarne/Hjemmesia/Favorittartister/the_alarm/the_alarm_3.jpg

Strange that so much money went on Gerry today.

I think Gerry seems a nice guy, really, but dear God, being on Big Brother not right for him.

(also, ha, he admitted fancying Ziggy)

Would have been better if gurus had been called to the diary room and allowed to decide without self-serving selflessness.

It's amazing how well Carole's passive aggressive bullshit has worked. Everybody voted to get Gerry out because she started crying. I kind of hate her now.

I'm going to stick my neck out and say Carole vs Gerry.

-- aldo, Wednesday, 15 August 2007 12:57 (2 days ago)

And Tracy is the third guru, so maybe Gerry to go

-- V, Tuesday, 14 August 2007 21:27 (3 days ago) Link

Well, I suppose I did say maybe

On the other hand, do I care in the long term.

bad

I hate Brian.

b

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Watching the repeat of last night's show leaves me amazed by how stupid these people are. I mean, I can understand not knowing this stuff, but not being able to learn it when you're given flashcards and you have NOTHING ELSE TO DO is pure stupidity.

I wondered if Tracey has literacy problems, she had problems reading even the simple words in the diary room and was very upset and unwilling to even look at the sheets.

I thought that too. Her reaction to the crib sheets was extreme. However, I don't think of Tracey as stupid as much as very damaged. I was thinking more of Brian and the twins. Tracey's reaction to this task is weird, the whole "I can't be myself like this" and getting upset about it. Jesus woman, play a game for a couple of days, it won't kill you.

I remember thinking something similar about the servant task in Celebrity BB earlier in the year. Ken and Leo were the only ones who were really willing to embrace the play-acting potential of the task at all. Everyone else was freaked out by the idea that they couldn't "be themselves" or "be real" in such a situation. It's very strange to me.

Does this end on Friday by the way? There appear to be rather a lot of housemates still and no midweek eviction in sight.

Next friday.

Good grief, Kara-Louise is one of the most inept flirts I have ever seen.

What is going on with her forehead? Port-wine stain?

LOL. My wife is always going on about her forehead!

isn't that a medical condition? not her fault.

BBBM last night:

bloke in crowd: "Don't like her"
Presenter: "Why?"
bloke: That mark on her face

Immediately, presenter leaves him.

Vitiligo, isn't it, also spread into her hair, hence white streak.

Of course it's not her fault! I hope I'm not guilty of the adult version of 'mommy, why is that lady fat?'

Watching the other night we were divided between vitiglio, port wine stain and some kind of burn scar.

Funny enough, I have the exact same white streak in my hair. Of course, my skin is pale, so you wouldn't be able to tell if it continues to my face. I wonder if it does?

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1051805

Oh, I didn't know it's a pair going on Friday!

Really? Kara Louise and Tracey to go, then.

aren't port wine stains usually coloured like the colour of port wine yes

It depends - I was born with one on my knee that faded by the time I was five.

On BBBM a few weeks ago, someone mentioned Kara-Louise's forehead, and the presenter said, "We're not allowed to talk about that" and quickly moved on.

She calls it a birthmark on the live feed, it does look like vitiligo.

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It's amazing that there's so few of them left, and yet they're still not really having any fun. To me it seems as though Carole and Tracey are kind of casting a pall over any possible exuberance (by which I don't just mean stupid food fights or screeching, but just having a laugh) because everyone has to walk on eggshells around them all the time.

eggcells, as gerry would say

^ See, that's the kind of joke you can't make with carole and tracey around.

Posted this on the Anne Widdicombe thread but it really belongs here:

Charley to be given own TV show
Thursday, August 23 2007, 11:53 BST

By Alex Fletcher

Former Big Brother housemate Charley has claimed that she has been given her own TV show called Charley's Angels.

Attending the MOBO awards last night, she told More: "Oh my God, I'm going to have my own TV show.

"I can't tell you much about it, but it's going to be called Charley's Angels and it's going to be wicked."

Talking about events in the house since she was evicted, she added: "I mean people slagged me off when I was in there, but I added that little something to the show - know what I mean?"

My only crumb of comfort is that the woman's grasp of reality is so tenuous this could all be bollocks.

Bored now, wake me up when we find out who's won.

Charley and Chanelle have won, in the same way that Jade and Nikki won. It's all about getting Deals.

I'm watching the repeat of last night's show now, and I honestly think if Carole tried to teach me how to fucking well wash dishes, I would not be as polite as Jonty.

And that's an understatement.

And the annoying thing is that the bloody woman is going to last until the final week!!

More than anything, though, their inability as a group to do anything that requires them not to "be themselves" for even a couple of hours, just astounds me. Playacting being posh for a little bit shouldn't be so hard.

And I hate Liam. Stop picking them up, you neanderthal gobshite! They're women, they're not fucking juggling balls.

And, oh great, Carole's crying again.

Carole's been a miserable cow since week one. I've no idea how she's still there.

I honestly think if Carole tried to teach me how to fucking well wash dishes, I would not be as polite as Jonty.

I once worked at a Little Chef in a motorway service station and the manager tried to teach me how to wash a knife. I used my best sarcastic voice and thanked him enthusiastically and asked if he could take time out later on for spoon washing lessons. He said it would be a pleasure and to give him a shout when I was ready!

:)

... imagining onimo as Thora Birch (is that her name?) in "Ghost World" in that scene where she has a job at a cinema

To this day I can still wash a mean knife.

I was more concerned with how filthy that sink was that Jonty was trying to wash the dishes in.

Paddy Power was running a book a few weeks back on "Who will be first to find the washing machine?"

Has this happened yet? Is there a washing machine to find?

(note that I've taken to watching BB via this very quiet thread plus the occasional glance at DS)

Ewwww, Jonty.

They haven't found the washing machine yet, I hope Davina tells Carole where it is in her eviction interview.

highlight (wrong word)

Jonty walking round in the nude, chatting to Kara-L

Carole's been a miserable cow since week one. I've no idea how she's still there.

I find her intriguing, because she reminds me of a guy I used to work with. He was middle-aged, anti-social, incredibly geeky-looking, and he used to work in the nuclear plant thingy near Oxford. So people assumed he must be really, really smart. Thing is, he was thick as a sack of really thick shit. Carole reminds me of him, because she has spent so much time projecting an image of herself as someone who is great in groups and can row in with anything that's happening that people believed her at first, and now she has her hooks into them and can ramp up the emotional blackmail whenever she feels threatened. She's fucking sly.

Hahaha NO WAY has there been a washing machine in there all this time that the housemates haven't noticed!

x2DC

People like that are a real pain in the arse and I usually make short shrift of them.

Yeah, she's definitely Activist Thicko, I'm surprised she hasn't started bleating on about having a quorum. Or have I missed that bit?

If she showed up to the emergency room the doctor would label her as GROLIES (Guardian Reader Of Low Intelligence in Ethnic Skirt).

Accentmonkey - well it's worked on Ziggy that's for sure.

And Gerry, he was all "I'll campaign for Carole to win on the outside"...

And changed his mind pretty quickly after.

missed gerry changing his mind

what a stupid gesture his idea of volunteering or sacrificing himself for eviction was

a fool

Gerry only said that so people wouldn't boo him when he left the house.

Accentmonkey - well it's worked on Ziggy that's for sure.

Yes, and he's only just realised it, and now he's pissed off about it.

Liam is too "quietly intelligent" and not enough of a geordie caracature to win the popular vote.

But, good for him. His "I feel you are a bit naive about Carole" to Jonty was classic. He basically explained what was going to happen, and all of it did.

Those virgin mobile/internet ad bits have proved to be quite non-irritating, havent they?

If you ignore the 'funny' subtitles, for the most part.

Yeah Gerry already knew he wasn't going to win due to that 'low public recognition factor' thing so he reasoned he might as well have gone out not being hated.

Makka Dun, man! Makka Dun!"

He basically explained what was going to happen, and all of it did.

Has he nominated her, though? He could argue that she doesn't bother him as much as she bothers the others, but she managed to reduce him to tears not long ago, I seem to remember.

Man, I'm arguing myself into really hating her now, when in fact she just needed slapping down (not literally) in the early weeks and maybe she would have shut up or walked.

carole's only a dick because everyone has let her and lets her be a dick

and because she wants to be a dick I suppose but she wouldn't have been able to be if people didn't allow it

You think it's possible to prevent dicks from being dicks?

No, but tearing them a new arsehole on national TV would be a LOT of fun.

How many arseholes does Charley have now?

Okay, I've just remembered something. Did anyone get Brian's joke? Could someone explain it to me?

Q. What do you call a member of Girls Aloud with a tenner on her head?
A. All you can eat for under a tenner.

wtf?

I don't get it.

How many arseholes does Charley have now?

One giant one that encompasses her whole being.

what's not to get? he wants to eat a member of girls aloud.

In other news, no CBB next year:

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/arts_entertainment/media/celebrity+big+brother+gets+channel+4+axe/719847

carole, on ziggy complaining about her "rules", on last night's repeat:

"if I've taken a position, it's because he (ziggy) has allowed me to. he's given me that role"

she's so unselfaware, though. complaining about ziggy being up and down and happy to laugh, one minute, and angry, the next. also, her continual attempts to seem wise or...astute. esp when it just upsets people (sam, when she was, weirdly, going on about how people will be interpreting how she and liam act w/ each other)

shame about the celebs

Bummer. I thought they were going to step it up with Paris Hilton, Hoff and Gazza.

xpost

carole saying she's "principled and fair". she has a lot of stamina for this type of chat

The last few CBB's (Burns/Galloway/Barrymore, Shetty/Goody/O'Meara) have been far more entertaining than this Big Brother and the last one. Plus it doesn't take up an entire season of your life. 13 weeks is far too long.

Listen, if you hate big brother, you hate the working class of england!

Not that I've had three pints or owt!

More seriously,

there was a big gap from the (second?) series of Celeb Big Brother and the third, so: who knows?

3 pints by half past two is quite impressive

ta. (zzzz)

WHAT!??!?!!!

WTF it's Friday, I feel like I've let the side down only have 2 pints!

having! I guess I'm a lightweight now :(

(ihad a bucket)

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1051805

See, the way I read this:

This poll is wrong, as people are not voting for the pair to go, but the individual.

So, the most popular pair to go is not the same as the pair that will go.

I can't explain further without making it obvious what the poll is saying. You know?

that poll is wrong

Either way, that's the result I'd like.

me too, I suppose

Add the percentages for each contestant, for each pairing.

xpost which?

I've jhad 5 pints this lunchtime and that poll looks damn right to me!

"jhad" is obviously a typo and not an Islamic thing. (Although there is nothing wrong with that, but not in the context of BB).

Look away, accentmonkey etc:

Jonty and Kara 35%
Kara and Tracey 49%
Tracey and Jonty 16%

Meaning:
Jonty = 35% and 16% = 51
Kara = 49% and 35% = 84
Tracey= 16% and 49% = 55

Make of that....

Yeah that poll is silly - that's not how the voting is working on the show, so why have that as the poll. Meh.

Meh indeed.

Big Brother is great.

I hate Brian. I actually dislike all of them. Especially Liam. And Ziggggggy and Carole. But mostly Brian and his fucking tiresome Forest Gump idiot man-child schtick, and the way he uses his pig ignorace as a bludgeon against anyone who remotely expresses a liking for anything 'grown-up', or for something that Brian doesn't have any understanding of. He's really intolerant and selfish. He's quite boring as well, really. One note.

annoying how little time kara-louise got. don't like her like but am farrrr more interested in her than in tracey

so it seems.

well, it's the run-up to the final day (The YMG was used up last time), and should we create a new thread? Hardly seems worth it. This week will be full of fond reminiscences, reminders of past housemates long forgotten (admit: Who comes to mind more readily, Andy from BB1 or Johnathan from this year?)

catchup: Channelle getting feltup by Ziggy, some singing/dancing, and Liam's "are you looking at me a bit funny, like?"

YMG? Young Marble Giants? Young Man's Goop?

(Yes, Young Marble Giants. Final Day. You know..)

quiz had some v funny and embarrassing moments

other than that, though, it all feels a bit dull and like it's all waiting. more so than previous years

was quite annoyed that they let ziggy talk to chanelle and everything. they should have had him touch and identify her and then whisked her away before he was allowed to take off his mask

Right, now see here: This poll is the "who is yr favourite housemate" poll. Later on, they are restarting/resetting this as "who do you want to win" ..

So, call this the "early doors" poll.

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1052268

Just saw Kara Louise walking up Camden Road, past the 24 hour Tesco. I could barely contain my excitement.

You should've asked her about her forehead.

Liam: "ahh, and we can have some mellow sounds, like. Some Queen, some Colosseum"

Colosseum? How old is he?

Old enough to remember Ocean Colour Scene.

he does act like a boring old cunt a lot of the time. think he idolises his dad and has chosen to inherit his "personality". think I saw the dad on bblb or something and he kept saying flippin, too

That would account for the Col love.

Not that I'm complaining, I'm selling 2 of their albums on ebay, so ta.

I have been catching up with Grace Dent. She's been on fire for the past couple of weeks - some highlights:

Admittedly, Ziggy did look quite desperate to get back together with Chanelle. Clearly he's forgotten what she's really like. He's forgotten that lurking behind the Heat magazine makeover is a limp-limbed sap, who spent weeks following him about nagging like a bipolar sat nav commentary.

"Don't smoke, Ziggy, don't smoke, Ziggy, move the bed, Ziggy, move the bed back, Ziggy. Ziggy, have you seen my stuffed bear as I'm only 20 and can't sleep without it? What are you thinking, Ziggy, NOW?!"
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The highlight of last Thursday for me was watching Jonty dry his testicles and willy (which is bizarrely of totally different ethnicity to the rest of his body) for ten minutes under the fixed hairdryers. I think that's possibly the saddest sentence I've ever typed in my career.
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According to Carole, she is the only one trying in the etiquette task. Why, Carole's even been correcting herself on her mistakes when she's been on her own in the toilet.

I quite like the image of Carole sitting on the loo berating herself to wee properly, then eventually crying and sending herself to Coventry shouting "I don't wanna talk about this no more, Carole! I don't wanna have this conversation! I'm not speaking about this no more!"
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Carole has been extra-ordinarily stab-able-in-the-forehead-with-a-fork-able over the past week as she's been forbidden from doing any household duties. This was as Kara-Louise, Jonty and Gerry were being punished for a rule-break incident involving a piece of paper, some pencils and a secret symbol, aka Pascal's triangle.

Basically the three biggest nerds in the house were given access to pencils, paper and privacy. Instead of whipping up an evil plot to forge their brains, ruthlessly conquer, then split the winnings, the nerds opted to teach each other about a complex geometric arrangement of binomial coefficients, which dates back to tenth-century Sanskrit.

Sigh. This is why governments aren't particularly worried about people like Sir Clive Sinclair, Stelios from easyJet and Bill Gates being friends. It doesn't matter how many millions of dollars they make, it's not like they're going to buy bloody plutonium with it. They're more likely to sit around at Clive's house drinking weak lemon cordial, swapping Ood stickers and talking about Pythagoras.
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Hours later the entire house is being punished on Carole's behalf. Their week's shopping budget is £78. More long-life bread, which they can obsess about day and night. Carole's worst crime was harbouring a packet of contraband biscuits. They were chocolate digestives, apparently, although it was clear when we saw them that they weren't good brand digestives, with the thick chocolate and crunchy biscuit, of which it's impossible to eat just one, so you eat ten then think, "Oh, well, never mind, may as well finish the packet" and the next thing you know you're in a changing room trying to get a pair of jeans higher than your knees, blaming glandular problems for your bum, which looks like Big Daddy's. Or maybe that's just me.

Anyway, they weren't good digestive biscuits, they were bad, cheap, supermarket-brand chocolate "flavour" digestives, where the chocolate-flavour coating is just icing sugar and cocoa and the biscuit is made of old floor sweepings, and they don't taste of much aside from Carole's 24-hour girdle, as she's had them in her pant drawer since just before Shabnam left.
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She's an unemployed sexual-health worker, which is bizarre as she's from a district of London so riddled with chlamydia that you could probably pick it up on the rush hour 155 bus to Walthamstow if you got wedged in too close to a teen with particularly baggy low-slung underpants (of which there are LOTS).

Why doesn't Carole work? She's clearly physically able as she's always on the go in the house. I'd love to earwig in on the Social Security meeting when they hand her a list of vacancies for knicker-manglers and cleaners in east London. Personally, I think she'd be good working for Rentokil. There is no-one more obsessed with uninvited creepy-crawly things than Carole.

Carole thinks the Disney film A Bug's Life is actually a true-life documentary. She believes that at any given time a bunch of anthropomorphised sugar-obsessed ants are in their secret war cabinet meeting pointing at maps and discussing the whereabouts of that box of Tunnock's caramel teacakes you bought from Lidl.
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Amanda is free now to concentrate on more important things. Hopefully including her Social Work studies, as my anxiety about Britain's dysfunctional families grows ever deeper as I watch her gormless, blank face every day.

Jonty tried to teach the twins geography the other day. "Which country's population is predominantly made up of Jewish people?" he asked. The twins didn't know. "I'll give you a clue," says Jonty, "It begins with I!" "Ireland!" hoot the twinnies, "Erm, no….OK, I.S…" "Isle….of…Island!? Isle of Man?"

Jonty sighs, "No…OK, another letter…I.S.R…?" "Israq!" shout the twins. "Is it Israq?!"

Israq? Where is Israq? How are these two going to be in charge of some sort of social care?

Actually, I hope they put them in charge of asylum claims. I'm going to pack in writing this column and say I need some money as I'm a political refugee on the run from YugoSpania.
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Anyway, Carole was happily making dinner. It was a tempting, succulent smorgasbord, bound to have the people of Britain casting aside their lazy ready meals and returning to good home cooking. Roughly chopped carrots fried in cheap margarine with a tin of supermarket-brand watery, acidic spaghetti in tomato sauce chucked in, with Dijon mustard and two-day-old bread served on a dusty dustpan, as it had been on the floor.

In fairness, Carole's dinner looked like something the BBC prop people mix up in bins before shooting a plot about Holby being struck by the Ebola virus. But it was made with love, and that's the main thing. OK, Carole's sort of love. Brooding, malevolent love that might send you to Coventry at any moment.
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Kara-Louise is just a massive pile of wet toilet rolls in a Monsoon shift dress.
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Amy's finest hour was possibly last Thursday when she cornered Ziggy and simpered about how he shouldn't be so strong and silent about missing Chanelle but should "talk about things". This was inspired logic, what with Ziggy having rambled on about his bloody emotions for 75 days without pausing, like Sir Cliff reading the audio book of James Joyce's Ulysses, while cobwebs grew in the nostrils of everyone in Britain as we waited for him to GET TO THE POINT.
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Carole isn't sad to see the back of Amy. Carole couldn't stand her. The more I look at Carole the more I vow to use a good moisturiser and to keep a close eye on my facial hair as the years pass by and I shuffle towards resembling Dickie Davies with his head stuck onto a large King Edward potato.

I imagine Carole looks how Anita Roddick from the Body Shop would look if she hadn't spent decades slathering mashed guava onto her cellulite, splodging vitamin-E cream on her eye circles and doing yoga in her Adriatic villa, and had instead lived in a one-man tent beside a lay-by in Greenham Common, washing her face in puddles, moisturising with Stork SB margarine and living on broccoli boiled on a Calor gas stove for three months solid.

He didn't say Colosseum, Mark.

My favourite Grace Dent quote: Carole looks like Don Letts after a three-day party.

Did he not? What did he say?

that grace dent thing was not funny.

maybe "world of lather" is not funny too. i used to think it was.

we still dislike grace

you're still, like, a disgrace

watching Jonty dry his testicles and willy (which is bizarrely of totally different ethnicity to the rest of his body) for ten minutes under the fixed hairdryers

ok wtf

jokes bruv?

Mark, he said "Keane, Ocean Colour Scene, Oasis". As is obviously screamingly predictable looking at Liam.

keane are better than queen, at least

Lies

Colonel Poo OTM!

Oh right, fair enough

They did the "movie" last night.

The 'dress up and imitate former housemates' task is always classic but the film worked less well than the play last year I reckon.

If you forget Charley, this is the tweest, touchy-feeliest BB since the first couple, isn't it?

It reminds me of the one Cameron won, the last couple of weeks of which featured Steph hoovering and... erm... Scott falling asleep. In fact, wasn't that a total love-fest pretty much after Fed went?

Brian was good value as Charley in the film, I thought. Liam was pretty badly edited last night, every shot he was in seemed to feature him brooding and staring at other people apart from wrestling Carole to the ground and dunking one of Samanda in the ice bowl.

We've really stopped caring about this, haven't we?

Anyway, I predict:

6th - Carole
5th - Liam
4th - Ziggy
3rd - Jonty (the only big surprise of the night)
2nd - Brian
1st - Samanda

Sadly, I have a feeling Carole may still be more popular than she should be.

I vote thuswise:

6th: Jonty
5th: Carole
4th: Liam
3rd: Brian
2nd: Ziggy
1st: Samanda

Nah I don't think Ziggy will beat Brian and Liam.

A bookie is paying out on Samanda already.

There is no way they won't win. I'm not even sure I can be bothered to watch it.

6th: Carole
5th: Jonty
4th: Ziggy
3rd: Liam
2nd: Samanda
1st: Brian

This is kind of wishful thinking, I think the twins will probably win. Liam might well do better than people are predicting due to NE bloc vote plus girls fancying him.

Liam was pretty badly edited last night, every shot he was in seemed to feature him brooding and staring at other people

This was the shot from behind, right? Where he wasn't actually brooding at all, because if you looked at it from the other direction he was sitting on the smoking bench in the way he always does?

I suppose you're probably right. I have lost interest so much I've failed to notice.

Does this finish tonight then? I might tune in.

6th: Carole
5th: Ziggy
4th: Liam
3rd: Brian
2nd: Jonty
1st: Samanda

you never know...

Even the end of this series is boring

Prediction:

1 Twins
2 Brian
3 Ziggy (even I'm warming to him now)
4 Liam
5 Carole
6 Jonty

Want:

1 Twins
2 Jonty
3 Brian
4 Liam
5 Ziggy (but he's still a blokey twat)
6 Carole

I'm still wondering how that guy Jay finished second in whatever BB it was he was in

Your want is my prediction! (xpost)

I think this series has actually been worse than the Cameron series

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/1052579

So, this is the actual "on the day" victory poll. Not to be confused with the actual voting. Click here for a surprise. or not.

Oh, and touring auditions for next year begin in November. So, what I said in post one could happen!

Man, Sam really ate all the pies while she was in the house, didn't she? Everyone else looks much the same.

poor old sam

ziggy's cunting microphone technique oh what a cunt

Well, that was a turn-up for the books.

oops, I am watching an hour behind

I'm quite surprised.

Not by you. By the result.

Oh my god, he's like something from Pipkins sometimes. In a good way.

Twins interview JUST NOISE.

Brian wants it so much, bless him.

so glad the twins didn't win

Aw bless, look at him crying looking at himself.

resolved myself, in the last seconds, that brian could win it

good that a big big brother fan won it I guess

oh well!!!!!!

I hate Brian. What a cunt.

This is the first time my favourite housemate has actually won. Damn, if only I'd got Carole and Jonty the right way round I would be cleaning up right now.

DavidM will be just as bad next year too is my prediction

Ah well,see youse next year.

Oh,Amber fully intends to do Big Brother 18, you have been warned!

Brian Belo (1409) 29%
Carole Vincent (156) 3%
Jonty Stern (217) 4%
Liam McGough (444) 9%
Sam & Amanda Marchant (1962) 40%
Zach 'Ziggy' Lichman (729) 15%

Sam and Amanda Marchant?

?

brian was quite funny when excited (which was often) during bblb on sunday.

gerry and charlie and satnav were complete camera whores during the final goodbye. no real surprise there.

there was no spooky final shot of the house with lights going off and spooky echo, which was disappointing. what should they have used this year? there's a new music sweeping the world and it's called indie?

yeah really missed the spooky end shots and voices!! disappointing

So who *wasn't* on the 'reunion' shows?

Emily, Jonathan, who else?

Emily, Jonathan

no talk of Ziggy's bewildering "trigger nigga" comment?

??

news of the world had a piece on sunday about ziggy's racist cover-up wherein bb allegedly didn't broadcast either the comment - "cheers, you're my trigger nigga" or somesuch - or the aftermath in which ziggy was up all night in the diary room apologising. it wasn't directed to/at brian, but he was "nearby" (WELL OF COURSE HE BLOODY WAS, THEY'RE ALL IN THE SAME HOUSE).

Big Brother producers reprimanded Ziggy Lichman for using a racially offensive word on Thursday night.

The former boyband star was drinking in the garden with his fellow housemates, when he said "trigger n*****" - a reference to a lyric by rapper 50 Cent.

Ziggy was called into the Diary Room and warned that he would be booted out of the house if he broke the rules again.

He then apologised to black housemate Brian Belo, who was present when he used the word. Brian told Ziggy not to worry, explaining: "We've lived with each other for 11 weeks and I know you're not like that."

A spokesman told the Sunday Mirror: "Channel 4 acted swiftly and appropriately to tell Ziggy that racially offensive language would not be tolerated under any circumstances. Ziggy was told that any further transgression would mean his immediate eviction.

"We gave careful consideration to the context of Ziggy's offence. Ziggy was repeating a lyric from a song and his words were not directed at anyone. Nobody in the house was offended and the incident was not broadcast, so no offence was caused to viewers."

Ziggy confirmed: "I apologised to Big Brother. It was purely lyrics from a song. It was never my intention to cause offence to anybody."