I don't give a fuck either.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)
this is my favorite thread today
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 24 August 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)
my friend started that lou reed death hoax about five years ago
remember that, internet?
― cutty, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)
remember that, morbs?
― cutty, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)
and it's called ... bad luck
― sexyDancer, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:38 (eighteen years ago)
is not funny
― blueski, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.jefframirez.com/ilx/reed.bmp
― jeff, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:39 (eighteen years ago)
NEVER FORGET
http://dangerbird.tripod.com/reed/loucover/mistrial.jpg
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/day/05_09_2001.html
― cutty, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:40 (eighteen years ago)
I'm currently watching season 2 of Suddenly Susan and can't believe how good he was. RIP
― brownie, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:42 (eighteen years ago)
CNN is reporting it was a strokes
― brownie, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:45 (eighteen years ago)
slip away
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)
the correct title of this thread would be "COME ANTICIPATE LAURIE ANDERSON BEING ON THE MARKET AGAIN"
― nabisco, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)
nabisco, nabisco mystic
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)
never got to play football for the coach ;_;
― ghost rider, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:54 (eighteen years ago)
hay morbs
i can't find this anywhere in the news. can you provide a link please?
― jeff, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:57 (eighteen years ago)
hee hee
― cutty, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/images/mzine/Cov2007_5.jpg
― kingfish, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)
www.perezhilton.com
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 24 August 2007 21:59 (eighteen years ago)
i'm sure lou is jammin with max roach right now in heaven RIP ;_;
― cutty, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:00 (eighteen years ago)
with fidel on the conga RIP
― jeff, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:01 (eighteen years ago)
if there's a band in heaven lou is replacing all of its members with yules right now
― ghost rider, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)
check out my gigantic dick 8===========================================D
― am0n, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)
OUT OF OUR LIVES BUT NEVER OUT OF OUR HEARTS
― max, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:02 (eighteen years ago)
NEVER FORGET 8/24/07 THE DAY WE LOST TWO AMERICAN HEROS
oh boy i'm laughing
thanks for being such a dick morbs
― cutty, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)
RIP THE ORIGINAL RAPPER
― ghost rider, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:04 (eighteen years ago)
<morbs>cubans don't play congas</morbs>
― cutty, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:05 (eighteen years ago)
EVERYBODY POST YOUR FAVORITE MEMORIES OF LOU REED HERE
― max, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)
#1. "THE VELVET UNDERGROUND"
#2. EATING A MARS BAR OUT OF MICK JAGGERS PUSSY
#3. "THE RAVEN" A++++++++++++++++++++++ WOULD LISTEN AGAIN
― max, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)
#4 8===========================================D
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 24 August 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)
#5. MY DAD LOVES LOU REED
#6. ALL OF THE MEMORIES OF LOU REED
LOU REED RUMORS FILL THE BROADWAY ARCADE
― Eazy, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:07 (eighteen years ago)
PUDDING FILLS PEREZ HILTON
― jeff, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:08 (eighteen years ago)
omg max do we have the same dad?!?!
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 24 August 2007 22:08 (eighteen years ago)
#7. THE TIME THAT LOU REED REVEALED THAT ALLY AND I WERE HALF-SISTERS
― max, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:08 (eighteen years ago)
i move we re-name ILX "THE LOU REED MEMORIAL MESSAGE BOARD"
― max, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:09 (eighteen years ago)
Lou Reed PWN3D
― jeff, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)
They say he didn't have an enemy His was a greatness to behold He was the last surviving progeny The last one on this side of the world
He measured half a mile from tip to tail silver and black with powerful fins They say he could split a mountain in two That's how we got the Grand Canyon
Last Great American Whale [x4]
Some say they saw him at the Great Lakes Some say they saw him off the coast of Florida My mother said she saw him in Chinatown but you can't always trust your mother
Off the Carolinas the sun shines brightly in the day The lighthouse glow ghostly there at night The chief of a local tribe had killed a racist mayor's son and he'd been on death row since 1958
The mayor's kid was a rowdy pig spit on Indians and lots worse The old chief buried a hatchet in his head life compared to death for him seemed worse
The tribal brothers gathered in the lighthouse to sing and tried to conjure up a storm or rain The harbor parted and the great whale sprang full up and caused a hugh tidal wave
The wave crushed the jail and freed the chief The tribe let out a roar The whites were drowned the browns and reds set free but sadly one thing more
Some local yokel member of the NRA kept a bazooka in his living room and thinking he had the chief in his sight blew the whale's brains out with a lead harpoon
Well Americans don't care for much of anything land and water the least And animal life is low on the totem pole with human life not worth more than infected yeast
Americans don't care too much for beauty They'll shit in a river, dump battery acid in a stream They'll watch dead rats wash up on the beach and complain if they can't swim
They say things are done for the majority Don't believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear It's a lot like what my painter friend Donald said to me "Stick a fork in their ass and turn them over, they're done"
― ghost rider, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:10 (eighteen years ago)
http://bobchaos.com/squeeze/mailedD1.jpg
― ghost rider, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:11 (eighteen years ago)
Eggplant, Rufus, Dummy-star, and The Glob.
― Eazy, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:12 (eighteen years ago)
FOR LOU REED RIP B. THE BEGGINING OF TIME - D. 2007
Goodbye Lou Reed Though I never knew you at all You had the grace to hold yourself While those around you crawled They crawled out of the woodwork And they whispered into your brain They set you on the treadmill And they made you change your name
And it seems to me you lived your life Like a candle in the wind Never knowing who to cling to When the rain set in And I would have liked to have known you But I was just a kid Your candle burned out long before Your legend ever did
Loneliness was tough The toughest role you ever played Hollywood created a superstar And pain was the price you paid Even when you died Oh the press still hounded you All the papers had to say Was that Marilyn was found in the nude
Goodbye Lou Reed From the young man in the 22nd row Who sees you as something as more than sexual More than just our Marilyn Monroe
― max, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:12 (eighteen years ago)
http://timesunion.com/photogalleries/pics_reagan2/images/6.jpg
― ghost rider, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:17 (eighteen years ago)
http://krant.telegraaf.nl/krant/ditjaar/hetjaar1999/fotos/jaar99.07.jul.088.089.johnjohn.jpg
― ghost rider, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)
"Of all the people I have known, he was the most...human"
xp
― kingfish, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:19 (eighteen years ago)
our world will never be the same
― max, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:21 (eighteen years ago)
Fuck this guy. I am trading him off of my team in Madden as soon as I get home.
― jeff, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:22 (eighteen years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/f123/katiezo/marchb/rrmoreheader.jpg I'd like to say a few words about a guy I know, a friend of mine. His name is Lou Reed, and he has the heart of a giant and that rare form of courage which allows him to kid himself and his opponent -- cancer. He has a mental attitude which makes me proud to have a friend who spells out "courage," 24 hours a day, every day of his life. Now, you flatter me by giving me this award. But I say to you here and now, Lou Reed is the man of courage who should receive this award. It's mine tonight and Lou Reed's tomorrow. I love Lou Reed. And I'd like all of you to love him too. And tonight, you hit your knees: please ask God to love him.
― ghost rider, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:25 (eighteen years ago)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4RBQ7D4s4qk
― sexyDancer, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:26 (eighteen years ago)
MODS: PLS MOVE THIS TO ILM WHY BECAUSE IT'D BE INTERSTING
― ghost rider, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:29 (eighteen years ago)
otm
― sanskrit, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:37 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.monochrom.at/english/pictures/zappa.jpg
It's very rare in life to know someone who affects things; changes them in a positive way. I've been lucky enough to have known some in my life: Andy Warhol, Doc Pomus. People whose vision and integrity was such that it moved the world a bit. People who, through the articulation of their talents and intelligence, were able to leave things better than they had found them. People who were not only not in it for the money, to paraphrase Lou Reed. Lou Reed was such a person and of the many regrets I have in life, not knowing him a lot better is one of them.
Whether writing symphonies, satirical broadsides or casting a caustic glow across the frontier of madness that makes up the American political landscape; whether testifying before Congress to put the PMRC in its rightful lowly place, or acting as a cultural conduit for President Vaclav Havel and the Czech government, Lou was a force for reason and honesty in the business deficient in those areas. As we reward some with money for the amusement they supply to the cultural masses, I think the induction of Lou Reed in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame distinguishes the Hall as well as the inductee. (applause)
Musicians usually cannot speak. That's why they communicate through their instruments. But Lou was one who could. And because music is pure, the musician is pure as well and when Lou spoke he demonstrated the power of purity. Who will do that now? I admired Lou greatly and I know he admired me. It gives me great pleasure to give this award to his daughter, Edie Brickell.
― Rock Hardy, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:40 (eighteen years ago)
We called the Miami Herald says it's all rumors and they've got nothing on the cops mobilising. US State Department also says its just rumors, in a nice bit of non-denying denial
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 24 August 2007 22:42 (eighteen years ago)
GREG FITZSIMMONS WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT SEEING LOU REED'S DICK N BALLS AT THE GYM ON THE RADIO
― chaki, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)
Cheney putting CBGB 2 into fast-track now
― jeff, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:45 (eighteen years ago)
as a result of am0n being a gigantic dick.
#63 - Mamie says:
If this is true,Perez will be the first blogger to unveil a international news. The death of a dictator. Something hidden by higher authorities. This is out of this worl news. Bravo Perez. How did you learn about this???
― max, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:46 (eighteen years ago)
Rock Hardy = echidnas_arf?
― jaymc, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:46 (eighteen years ago)
RIP Lou's mullet from late late 80s ;_;
― gershy, Saturday, 25 August 2007 03:03 (eighteen years ago)
The Nomorbius R.I.P.
― am0n, Saturday, 25 August 2007 03:19 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com/dead.nsf/rnames-nf/Reed+Lou
― msp, Saturday, 25 August 2007 03:20 (eighteen years ago)
as per his instructions, reed's corpse was mummified and displayed in a hotel lobby:
http://bp0.blogger.com/_X2vjbY82QcQ/RsmJlELhfAI/AAAAAAAAAIA/4d-qJfEL6Fc/s400/146524515_e84f88f346.jpg
― latebloomer, Saturday, 25 August 2007 03:23 (eighteen years ago)
NICO FOUND ALIVE IN JERSEY; LIVES WITH 16 CATS AND 4 GOLDFISH
― King Boy Pato, Saturday, 25 August 2007 03:42 (eighteen years ago)
can someone please animate this omg
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/images/mzine/LouReed_1.jpg
― the table is the table, Saturday, 25 August 2007 03:55 (eighteen years ago)
Lou Reed RIP
― Hurting 2, Saturday, 25 August 2007 04:00 (eighteen years ago)
yule be missed
― gershy, Saturday, 25 August 2007 04:04 (eighteen years ago)
loubot still with us i hope http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMIgZmmO1c4
― gershy, Saturday, 25 August 2007 04:07 (eighteen years ago)
Durnit! I had him in my Dead Pool (and got excited and sad at the same time).
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 25 August 2007 04:16 (eighteen years ago)
Max, I am in awe of your posts here. And ghost rider's photos followed it up beautifully. I think there's been a lot accomplished on this thread today. Well done, folks.
-- Eazy, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:07 (Yesterday) Link
-- jeff, Friday, 24 August 2007 22:08 (Yesterday) Link
These ARE supposed to be Mark E. Smith lyrics right??
― Bimble, Saturday, 25 August 2007 04:37 (eighteen years ago)
the fact that jimmy scott still lives while lou reed is dead is frankly, bullshit.
thanks for reading,
brownie
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/music/antonybackstage.jpg
― brownie, Saturday, 25 August 2007 04:52 (eighteen years ago)
I want to know if people frequenting this thread know that Tony Wilson has died and who he was. Thanx
― Ward Fowler, Saturday, 25 August 2007 06:17 (eighteen years ago)
Hey, you stole my line on the Daft Punk thread!
― Bimble, Saturday, 25 August 2007 06:46 (eighteen years ago)
:)
― Bimble, Saturday, 25 August 2007 06:47 (eighteen years ago)
lou reed did a good cover of that song that bruce sprinsfag is famous for, 'i'm goin down' but lou reed did it like a bad motherfucker, no joke-- i havent had this record for at least 8 years, if any1 could wifi it to me, i would rsvp. ttyl
― luriqua, Saturday, 25 August 2007 06:49 (eighteen years ago)
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/antonybackstage2.gif http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/antonybackstage2.gif http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/antonybackstage2.gif
― Edward III, Saturday, 25 August 2007 09:13 (eighteen years ago)
ok that is fucking awesome
― latebloomer, Saturday, 25 August 2007 09:17 (eighteen years ago)
shit gets weird over here at 5 in the morning
― Edward III, Saturday, 25 August 2007 09:33 (eighteen years ago)
HE WAS NEVER HERE
― sexyDancer, Saturday, 25 August 2007 13:50 (eighteen years ago)
holy shit
― Brigadier Pudding, Saturday, 25 August 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)
Durnit! I had him in my Dead Pool (and got excited and sad at the same time). Your Dead Pool to his Lou was such a perfect wit.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 25 August 2007 14:49 (eighteen years ago)
Our thread is very beautiful tonight.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 25 August 2007 14:59 (eighteen years ago)
Edward III, that is total awesomeness.
― Rubyredd, Saturday, 25 August 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)
what the fucking hell...
― pisces, Saturday, 25 August 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)
what do you do when you don't have a pipe or papers? make bong from drinking container?
― Maria :D, Sunday, 26 August 2007 02:20 (eighteen years ago)
that was totally on the wrong thread yo
― Maria :D, Sunday, 26 August 2007 02:21 (eighteen years ago)
yeah, lou's all about heroin, duh
― gershy, Sunday, 26 August 2007 02:49 (eighteen years ago)
Nah, I think Maria's got her heart in the right place. I was going to say that a drinking container is the correct answer to the question posed.
― Bimble, Sunday, 26 August 2007 03:43 (eighteen years ago)
r.i.p. guitar strings ;_;
http://www.gearwire.com/media/gg-may94-m-daddario-large.jpg
― gershy, Sunday, 18 May 2008 05:01 (seventeen years ago)
-- max, Friday, August 24, 2007 3:09 PM (8 months ago) Bookmark Link
this movement never got enough support
― max, Sunday, 18 May 2008 05:02 (seventeen years ago)
RIP big man
― strgn, Sunday, 18 May 2008 05:21 (seventeen years ago)
lol, my first response: "THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY LOU REED DIED WITHOUT MY EVER HEARING!!!!!!!"
Then I remembered that I had heard he just got married like two weeks ago or something.
― RabiesAngentleman, Sunday, 18 May 2008 13:54 (seventeen years ago)
He could still have died!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 May 2008 13:55 (seventeen years ago)
You're right! Didn't I read a tabloid or an issue of Bizarre once about someone marrying a dead woman?
That must be it.
― RabiesAngentleman, Sunday, 18 May 2008 14:04 (seventeen years ago)
yesterday i went to a see an important buddhist teacher whos never been to america before - before he came out to teach lou reed popped up on stage unannounced and played three songs o_O :)
― jhøshea, Sunday, 18 May 2008 14:07 (seventeen years ago)
Lou will die just after all the cockroaches, but before Keith Richards.
― snoball, Sunday, 18 May 2008 14:09 (seventeen years ago)
I spoke to him on the phone a couple of days ago; he was as cantankerous as I'd been led to expect.
― Stevie T, Sunday, 18 May 2008 14:11 (seventeen years ago)
well, calling someone in the middle of the night to sell time shares will do that
― latebloomer, Sunday, 18 May 2008 14:15 (seventeen years ago)
ZING
― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Sunday, 18 May 2008 14:21 (seventeen years ago)
ha ha!
I want to know, though, what Lou said.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 18 May 2008 14:23 (seventeen years ago)
AUTHOR / ARTIST
― the pinefox, Sunday, 18 May 2008 14:24 (seventeen years ago)
-- jhøshea, Sunday, May 18, 2008 9:07 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
o_O_o_0_D_@_;_0_o !!!!
― RabiesAngentleman, Sunday, 18 May 2008 14:24 (seventeen years ago)
one day Lou Reed will be really dead, and all of you will regret posting on this thread!!
(or will you...)
― Zeno, Sunday, 18 May 2008 14:52 (seventeen years ago)
No, no...
― RabiesAngentleman, Sunday, 18 May 2008 14:52 (seventeen years ago)
Yes, yes, he will haunt your soul!
― Zeno, Sunday, 18 May 2008 14:53 (seventeen years ago)
Looking at the photo upthread, I wonder if Bette Midler discussed Doc Pomus at all with Lou and Jimmy Scott?
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Sunday, 18 May 2008 15:34 (seventeen years ago)
jho !!!! :D :D :D
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 18 May 2008 18:20 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/93557/2
― edible wife (gnarly sceptre), Thursday, 5 March 2009 11:24 (seventeen years ago)
god you people piss me off.
― kenan, Thursday, 5 March 2009 12:18 (seventeen years ago)
but it's a lolsworthy thread when it's about fidel castro!
― LOLBJ (Eisbaer), Thursday, 5 March 2009 12:35 (seventeen years ago)
Lou is really looking like a leather Willem Dafoe in a wig these days.
― ╓abies, Thursday, 5 March 2009 14:18 (seventeen years ago)
Say that three times fast.
thatthatthat
― Mark G, Thursday, 5 March 2009 14:22 (seventeen years ago)
oh gosh, not another one!
― tehresa, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:32 (sixteen years ago)
wot, again?
― kingfish, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:34 (sixteen years ago)
Tza!
― \(^o\) (/o^)/ (ENBB), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:35 (sixteen years ago)
rip
― tehresa, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:35 (sixteen years ago)
what a disaster for headless guitar manufacturers
― old chisel (haitch), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 05:45 (sixteen years ago)
This and the Lisa Kudrow thread always throw me for a moment.
― lolsbury hill (Trayce), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 06:48 (sixteen years ago)
fuck this thread
― master of karate and friendship for everyone (musically), Wednesday, 8 July 2009 06:51 (sixteen years ago)
that's no way to talk about someone who's passed.show some respect.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 06:52 (sixteen years ago)
fake death be not proud
― velko, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 06:53 (sixteen years ago)
Not long now, look at that terrible picture of him: http://www.tmz.com/2010/09/08/susan-boyle-lou-reed-perfect-day-americas-got-talent-walk-off-show/
― StanM, Thursday, 9 September 2010 16:03 (fifteen years ago)
I hope you're proud of yourself, Susan Boyle.
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 September 2010 16:11 (fifteen years ago)
dunno, aside from being all leathery-skinned, i bet lou is in the shape of his life these days. all that tai chi, you know? http://www.loureed.com/new/news/imgs/kungfu.jpg
― tylerw, Thursday, 9 September 2010 16:14 (fifteen years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/tomasutpen/album6/simonreed.jpgWould you be able to do something like that, Paul Simon?
― Redd Cadillac & A Blecch Moustache (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 September 2010 16:25 (fifteen years ago)
Susan, if you're reading this do a cover of 'I Keep a Close Watch', just to piss Laughing Lou off.
― State Attorney Foxhart Cubycheck (Billy Dods), Thursday, 9 September 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)
Okay seeing that cover with Lou, the sword and 'The secrets of hung men' together = WTH.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 September 2010 16:26 (fifteen years ago)
Not sure if I should read that literally or as some classical Chinese philosopher's name.
― whyte mayne (corey), Thursday, 9 September 2010 16:33 (fifteen years ago)
I just saw your comment on the also revived Susan Boyle thread and I hope you're proud of yourself, Mark G.
― StanM, Thursday, 9 September 2010 16:40 (fifteen years ago)
lol @ Lou making Susan Boyle cry
― Dr. Lol Evans (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 9 September 2010 17:08 (fifteen years ago)
lou has always fiercely protected that song from inferior cover versionshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uN90xB7DswE
― tylerw, Thursday, 9 September 2010 17:15 (fifteen years ago)
C'mon Lou, that sweet sweet Hallelujah money can pay for a llooooooot of tai chi lessons
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 September 2010 17:35 (fifteen years ago)
maybe she should offer to have his instructor do moves during her performance?
― da croupier, Thursday, 9 September 2010 17:36 (fifteen years ago)
She should just do Leonard Cohen's "One Of Us Cannot Be Wrong," which I've always thought "Perfect Day" rips off.
― Olde Executioner 8hundo (Eazy), Thursday, 9 September 2010 18:41 (fifteen years ago)
Yes, Lou had to specifically give permission for that one as well, which he did.
And then said he wouldn't have if he'd known it was"English"...
jokingly.
― Mark G, Thursday, 9 September 2010 18:47 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XdmWa0aGu8
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 9 September 2010 18:56 (fifteen years ago)
tho to be fair, lou may be a gretchen bleiler fan.
― a tenth level which features a single castle (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 9 September 2010 18:58 (fifteen years ago)
If someone had just told Lou that Susan was a dude...
― Olde Executioner 8hundo (Eazy), Thursday, 9 September 2010 19:22 (fifteen years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/tomasutpen/album6/simonreed.jpgYou're gonna reap just what you sow, Lou Reed
― Redd Cadillac & A Blecch Moustache (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 September 2010 22:55 (fifteen years ago)
So, did he give permission for Robbie Williams to do "Walk on the Wild Side" last night?
― Mark G, Monday, 13 September 2010 08:20 (fifteen years ago)
squeeze's cover >>>>>>>>> all other vu covers
/my week of being a contrarian
― a hoy hoy, Monday, 13 September 2010 09:18 (fifteen years ago)
uhhhttp://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/11/lou_reed_apologizes_to_susan_b.html
― tylerw, Monday, 8 November 2010 16:28 (fifteen years ago)
hahahahaha
― the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 November 2010 16:43 (fifteen years ago)
lou is a funny guy
― tylerw, Monday, 8 November 2010 16:46 (fifteen years ago)
So, he directed this video without leaving NY, right?
― Mark G, Monday, 8 November 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
was totally waiting for her to walk off the edge of that pier tbh
― the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 November 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
q: do artists have any control over releases a cover of a song they have written?
― jed_, Monday, 8 November 2010 16:48 (fifteen years ago)
No, unless it's altered significantly. Unless the alteration is parody, which is covered by the laws of free speech.
― Mark G, Monday, 8 November 2010 16:49 (fifteen years ago)
ah right cheers.
i know tom waits has tried to suppress covers in the past, presumably even "straight" ones.
― jed_, Monday, 8 November 2010 16:56 (fifteen years ago)
huh, really? i dunno, it seems like a weird thing to do -- having someone cover you song is easy money, right?
― tylerw, Monday, 8 November 2010 17:01 (fifteen years ago)
Yeah, but the particular cover that he blocked was for an advert.
Screaming Jay Hawkins did "Heartattack and Vine". It was still issued as a single tho.
― Mark G, Monday, 8 November 2010 17:04 (fifteen years ago)
Robert Smith blocked an e.p. by Terry Edwards, who did 3 cure songs with his trumpet.
I guess it was significantly different enough. Or maybe he was able to just be plain awkward to delay it coming out...
― Mark G, Monday, 8 November 2010 17:06 (fifteen years ago)
Tom Waits blocked Frito-Lay from having a fake Tom Waits do a fake Tom Waits song.
― no place running the schools (Eazy), Monday, 8 November 2010 20:50 (fifteen years ago)
http://images.derstandard.at/2010/11/03/1288665900861.jpgyikes lou is looking old these days. also looking scary.
― tylerw, Monday, 8 November 2010 23:38 (fifteen years ago)
amphibian
― haute couture wolf gang frill them all (samosa gibreel), Monday, 8 November 2010 23:40 (fifteen years ago)
also looks like my grandma!
― I love you girls but that music is for radical faeries (Matt P), Monday, 8 November 2010 23:41 (fifteen years ago)
http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/1982_Blade_Runner/982BLR_Joe_Turkel_002.jpg
― omar little, Monday, 8 November 2010 23:41 (fifteen years ago)
gollum with glasses
― the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 November 2010 23:47 (fifteen years ago)
also: Show me some men who look like old lesbians!
― the Whiney G. Weingarten Memorial 77 Clique (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 November 2010 23:48 (fifteen years ago)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2Bwjo%2BYTJL._SS400_.jpgi guess she's doing another of lou's songs on this album?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 9 November 2010 18:40 (fifteen years ago)
i've been away from the board for the last week, but in case this hasn't been mentioned? Exclusive: Metallica and Lou Reed Join Forces on New AlbumIt was an improbable match: Lou Reed's cutting-monotone voice and explicit stories of desire and despair, lashed to Metallica's apocalyptic charge. It is now a perfect fit. In a recent rapid series of sessions at Metallica's studio north of San Francisco, the New York king of avant-rock and the world's bestselling thrash-metal band have recorded a new studio album together that is unlike any either artist has made before. The record, not yet titled, features 10 songs composed by Reed with significant arrangement contributions by the band that suggest a raging union of his 1973 noir classic, Berlin, and Metallica's '86 crusher, Master of Puppets.
"A marriage made in heaven," Reed says in his first interview about the project, in the studio lounge during a break. "I knew it from the first day we played together: 'Oh, man, this is perfection, right in front of me.' "
"I don't think we've ever felt this free," Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich says, sitting next to Reed on a couch. "There's nothing that's totally outside of the boundary for us, nothing that feels like 'Oh, what happens if we go there?' The strength of us" – he gestures at Reed – "is it feels like we cannot land on a wrong place."
"They're bringing Metallica, with all that power," Reed confirms. "And because they're pretty sophisticated, wherever I go, they're still with me."
Reed and Metallica first played together in October 2009, at the 25th Anniversary Rock and Roll Hall of Fame concerts in New York. Ulrich, singer-guitarist James Hetfield, guitarist Kirk Hammett and bassist Robert Trujillo backed Reed on two of his classic songs. "We knew from then," Reed says, "that we were made for each other." He and the band first planned to cut an album of his older material, "fallen jewels that no one remembered," as Reed puts it. That changed a week before Reed showed up at Metallica's studio. He called the band, proposing a record of songs he'd written for Lulu, a theatrical production of stories by the German author Frank Wedekind, directed by Robert Wilson and currently running in Berlin.
"Lars and I listened to the stuff," Hetfield says of Reed's demos, "and it was like, 'Wow, this is very different.' It was scary at first, because the music was so open. But then I thought, 'This could go anywhere.' " Metallica started writing parts built from vocal rhythms and electronic patterns on the demos.
The result is at once unpredictable and viciously tight. "Pumping Blood" opens with a drone that breaks into a crunching march, goes into speed-metal gear and breaks into free-fall sections – all over seven minutes, cut live in one take. Another track, "Mistress Dread," features Reed singing across a relentless staccato riff played at manic velocity. "It doesn't feel like we're his backup band," Hammett claims. "It feels like we're a different band, in a situation we've never been in before." And, Trujillo notes, "it's making us a better band."
Metallica: Three Decades of Metal Mayhem
Ulrich says the album is "90 percent" finished. But there are no release plans yet. Reed does not have a record deal, and Metallica are no longer on Warner Bros. "We are free to go wherever," Ulrich says. "I'm obviously psyched for people to hear this, in whatever way we feel is right."
Hetfield has one condition. "I told Lou I want to be there when people hear it," he says, grinning. "I want to see their faces."
― tylerw, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
oh yeah, it was mentioned
― lots of janitors have something to say (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)
this is just getting ridiculous with the revives now
― thomp, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)
Lou Reed/Metallica Collabo Anticipation Thread
― Pleasant Plains, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)
i've been away from the board for the last week, but in case this hasn't been mentioned?
― The Narcissism of POLL Differences (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:45 (fourteen years ago)
(xpost obv)
― The Narcissism of POLL Differences (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
Surprised PP didn't post Jackie Harvey image.
― The Narcissism of POLL Differences (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:50 (fourteen years ago)
sorrrrry, i see it has been discussed extensively. anyway, RIP.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 16:55 (fourteen years ago)
On that day no prisoners were taken
― The Narcissism of POLL Differences (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 17:09 (fourteen years ago)
i wonder who's ass Lou Reed thinks he could kick
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Friday, 2 September 2011 13:05 (fourteen years ago)
I have been made to understand that his music is infused with the New Yawk attitude.
So that's something to reckon with.
Plus his tai chi is fairly bad-ass at this point, if you ask the women from the Senior Center that he does push hands with
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 13:08 (fourteen years ago)
I notice he had a question and answer forum on his website - I wonder how long before he got so freakin sick of answering questions. Plus no one can ever work with him for long before they have a falling out - whats his problem
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Friday, 2 September 2011 13:10 (fourteen years ago)
Now, this may be sheer projection on my part, but I think he is still p.o.'ed about the, what's the word? oh yeah, "shit-ass" level of carbonation in his Diet Slice that he ordered in the early nineties at nathan's
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 13:18 (fourteen years ago)
were you the server or witness to this shitass declaration?
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Friday, 2 September 2011 13:45 (fourteen years ago)
ok, i'm not sure how much personal detail i should go into, but remember that movie like water for chocolate, about the irascible pushing-forty mouse who becomes a godiva addict against the backdrop of an erotic thriller setting in bogota? well, it was like that but replace the magical realism sense of whimsy with garden variety despair in a friendly's restaurant circa '91. all the reeses pieces in the world are not going to make that sundae any brighter. lou was wearing a leather jacket. i can tell you that. with confidence. he had some generic brand of reeses pieces bedazzled onto the arms and shoulders iirc
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 13:57 (fourteen years ago)
Checked out Lou's Q&A page.
He answers with great forebearance from 2007 to 2008, but there's 6 pages after that to the current day without any answers.
I guess it seemed like a good idea at the time...
― Mark G, Friday, 2 September 2011 14:09 (fourteen years ago)
lol - he was like WTF this sucks why did I think tihs would be a good idea
dell - did you become erect?
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:11 (fourteen years ago)
i'm going to be honest with you-- after they had that sea-change in uniforms at friendly's circa early '89 i have never achieved tumescence in one of their restaurants, try as i might have
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:16 (fourteen years ago)
pizza hut is a different story i guess tho. something about the introduction of the "hand-tossed" concept just got my blood flowing
also it was around the same time they started adding msg to their oregano shakers, so you can likely guess what that added up to
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:18 (fourteen years ago)
AHA! SO Lou Reed was WORKING at Friendlies - that makes sense, he was hard up for cash that year
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:20 (fourteen years ago)
yeh he tried to introduce a "songs for drella" patty melt, but the mgmt weren't having any of it
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:21 (fourteen years ago)
"Song for Patty Melt" would have sold more copies
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:22 (fourteen years ago)
yeah, as likely as not
he did achieve some unsightly rash from standing too close to the steam coming out of the electronic dishwashers, though
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:23 (fourteen years ago)
Then he sued them for stealing his Sundae Morning idea, and that was the end of that.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:24 (fourteen years ago)
pretty much, yeah
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:24 (fourteen years ago)
The person who made this Happy Ending had no pride:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.slashfood.com/media/2009/05/icecream5.jpg
― esteenban HOOTez (kkvgz), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:25 (fourteen years ago)
HE did get the idea for "Egg Cream" there which was originally titled "Lookin' at the Shift Manager's Ass While I Make Sundaes"
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:25 (fourteen years ago)
yah could be just me but imho a comely derriere is fairly approximated by the just the right proportion of seltzer and chocolate syrup
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:28 (fourteen years ago)
If I recall Van Morrison also worked there at the time as the dishwasher and they would have argument allot and try to out-do each other. Morrison could never make a good enough "happy ending"
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:30 (fourteen years ago)
yeah well when you hand the job to the wrong fellow it just gets messy, like spilling an egg cream all over your distressed khaki jorts. truly, what can one do?
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 14:44 (fourteen years ago)
Have a Danish
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:38 (fourteen years ago)
one time lou lined up all these egg creams and then went around to all his co-workers, pointing to his handiwork and doing his best "mr. gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL" gipper impression
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:43 (fourteen years ago)
yes, Arle Gourndon was not pleased - she was the night manager - a woman in her 50's , led a life of many defeats, one divorce, and addicted to hostess Ding DOngs
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Friday, 2 September 2011 15:47 (fourteen years ago)
smooth creamy filling . the urge. it's a disease, ppl just don't get it
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:13 (fourteen years ago)
You should have given him a mayonnaise soda.
― esteenban HOOTez (kkvgz), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:25 (fourteen years ago)
you gotta understand, this was n.e., not the j.d. southern states
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:27 (fourteen years ago)
senator you polish a turd
― calstars, Friday, 2 September 2011 16:27 (fourteen years ago)
that whole southern sequence of states is confounding | feel like they are all drunk on sweet tea, cypress and backhanded compliments?
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:29 (fourteen years ago)
truly, is that any way to run a confederacy?
I wish I was in the land of cotton, bad times there are not forgotton!
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:36 (fourteen years ago)
those generic reeses pieces go down easily enough, but you're inevitably knee-deep in regret two days later ime
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:39 (fourteen years ago)
maybe i'm just getting old, but i feel okay in standing up in a roomful of dignitaries and saying that i don't need anymore of this "mac and me" dandruff
speaking truth to power
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:41 (fourteen years ago)
they banned red dye #2 for a reason ppl . it's not "natural" for your mcnuggets to spontaneously transform into peeps
― dell (del), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:42 (fourteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNkcJhFxD-Q
wtf I thought this song was about being Irish and called the wearing of the green
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Friday, 2 September 2011 16:52 (fourteen years ago)
i would like to announce, in this very thread, that i will be touring w/ metallica in lieu of lou
― markers, Friday, 2 September 2011 18:14 (fourteen years ago)
we will miss u
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 2 September 2011 18:18 (fourteen years ago)
no worries, i'll regularly be posting "i miss you" to ilx on stage
― markers, Friday, 2 September 2011 18:24 (fourteen years ago)
please store a cash of reeses in your colon as a tribute
― Birth Control is Sinful in the ILE Marriages (Latham Green), Friday, 2 September 2011 18:30 (fourteen years ago)
Lou Reed recovering after liver transplant:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/jun/01/lou-reed-liver-transplant
― thirdalternative, Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:09 (twelve years ago)
yeah, that was a lived liver.
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:10 (twelve years ago)
are you looking forward to his death
― ghosts of erith spectral crackhouse slain rudeboy (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:12 (twelve years ago)
More sensational, but this has more quotes from Laurie Anderson
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/rockandpopmusic/10092969/Lou-Reed-saved-by-liver-transplant-after-years-of-drugs-and-alcohol-take-their-toll.html
― thirdalternative, Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:14 (twelve years ago)
No I am not looking forward to his death.
But again, I am reminded:
Is life worth living? Depends on the liver.
― thirdalternative, Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:15 (twelve years ago)
yeah, without your liver you're fucked imo
― floored character (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:16 (twelve years ago)
good comments in the telegraph piece
― ghosts of erith spectral crackhouse slain rudeboy (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 1 June 2013 16:19 (twelve years ago)
what is this about quotes from loni anderson?
http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/27/2773/AELTD00Z/posters/loni-anderson.jpg
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:22 (twelve years ago)
Lou was big on WKRP.
― Mr. Mojo Readin' (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:41 (twelve years ago)
Nice how the Telegraph can't bother to get the name of The Cleveland Clinic right despite four tries.
― Huston we got chicken lol (Phil D.), Saturday, 1 June 2013 18:56 (twelve years ago)
Man poor Louie Anderson
― some dude, Saturday, 1 June 2013 19:00 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCq4SqGStzE
― markers, Saturday, 1 June 2013 19:11 (twelve years ago)
the best thing he ever did
oh, state of grace. awwwwwww, state of grace.
Lulu vs. The Velvet Underground & Nico: The Poll
― markers, Saturday, 1 June 2013 19:12 (twelve years ago)
wake up, the dream is over
― markers, Saturday, 1 June 2013 19:14 (twelve years ago)
get the coffee, turn the lights on
Here's some awesome Lou none of that fake shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IUgz-rZuRc
― waterface, Saturday, 1 June 2013 20:05 (twelve years ago)
Just trying to negate the last few posts
― waterface, Saturday, 1 June 2013 20:06 (twelve years ago)
Hope you're OK Sweet Lou
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH9X1sm4Uv8
― waterface, Saturday, 1 June 2013 20:13 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JucJAuDKqKw
― markers, Saturday, 1 June 2013 20:21 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNqwSwEtEVg
― waterface, Saturday, 1 June 2013 20:24 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf2pF5oMdP4
― waterface, Saturday, 1 June 2013 20:28 (twelve years ago)
wow markers waterface showdown
― too busy s1ockin' on my 乒乓 (wins), Saturday, 1 June 2013 21:48 (twelve years ago)
http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/brk2ifurinmilwke/nerdfight.gif
what is the starting bid for lou reed's liver on ebay?
― the strange and important sound of the synthesizer (Treeship), Saturday, 1 June 2013 22:16 (twelve years ago)
lou and michael bloomberg have the same accent.
― calstars, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 21:27 (twelve years ago)
http://www.theonion.com/articles/new-liver-complains-of-difficulty-working-with-lou,32669/
― iatee, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 21:28 (twelve years ago)
i just want to hear lou sing that he is the table
― steening in your HOOSless carriage (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 21:29 (twelve years ago)
Lou is his own best friend
― calstars, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 00:25 (twelve years ago)
RIP.
― Geoffrey Schweppes (jaymc), Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:20 (twelve years ago)
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/lou-reed-velvet-underground-leader-and-rock-pioneer-dead-at-71-20131027
gd
― Paraoxonases in Inflammation, Infection, and Toxicology (nakhchivan), Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:22 (twelve years ago)
whoa
― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:25 (twelve years ago)
Damn. RIP, Lou.
― EZ Snappin, Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:26 (twelve years ago)
Unexpected!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:26 (twelve years ago)
he's literally come out of nowhere to die there, Alfred
― little busquets made of tiki-taka (imago), Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:27 (twelve years ago)
any other sources?
― zanana rebozo (abanana), Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:28 (twelve years ago)
at least he lived long enough to get a gently waspish valedictory swipe from ilx' most august man of letters
― Paraoxonases in Inflammation, Infection, and Toxicology (nakhchivan), Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:29 (twelve years ago)
http://en.mediamass.net/people/lou-reed/deathhoax.html
― zanana rebozo (abanana), Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:29 (twelve years ago)
ignore that
― zanana rebozo (abanana), Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:30 (twelve years ago)
RIP :(
― Remember! The cormorant is a big brrd. It has got a long neck. (unregistered), Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)
this still hasn't been confirmed by nyt, bbc or any ned raggett social media platform
― Paraoxonases in Inflammation, Infection, and Toxicology (nakhchivan), Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:42 (twelve years ago)
RIP
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:47 (twelve years ago)
welp, i always assumed this was true whenever the thread got bumped. Sorry Lou.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:52 (twelve years ago)
so you're saying now you give a fuck.
― stylings (Matt P), Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:53 (twelve years ago)
I believe this was started in response to the RIP Fidel thread, which i tot believed. anyhoo...
― ghost rider, Friday, August 24, 2007 6:02 PM
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:55 (twelve years ago)
wow. RIP.
― rip van wanko, Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:56 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jTkTukfjZM
― how's life, Sunday, 27 October 2013 17:59 (twelve years ago)
he signed Mistrial for me, and was pleasant about it.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:00 (twelve years ago)
He taught me what the colored girls say.
― Aimless, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:00 (twelve years ago)
He scowled at me once.
― Jesus (wins), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:02 (twelve years ago)
Did not see this coming. Damn.
― a fifth of misty beethoven (cryptosicko), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:02 (twelve years ago)
Only seeing it reported by RS at the moment ...
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:03 (twelve years ago)
he was a complete nonentity in my life but his passing seems to affect many people so rip guy, if you are really dead this time
― sleepingbag, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:03 (twelve years ago)
Huffpo reporting it too
― Jesus (wins), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:05 (twelve years ago)
This is awful news. Reviled as Lulu was, Reed cared a lot about the project and I think to the end he remained a dude who wanted to create music.
― (emphasis Treeship's) (Treeship), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:05 (twelve years ago)
Guess he's up in heaven now, arguing about amphetamines with Lester Bangs...
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:05 (twelve years ago)
Was worried about this when he cancelled his tour a few months ago.
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:05 (twelve years ago)
I guess thats another way of saying "too soon." I liked his review of Yeezus a lot.
― (emphasis Treeship's) (Treeship), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:06 (twelve years ago)
Sorry xp
Gonna miss this irascible loony
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:06 (twelve years ago)
Huff Post cited RS as source.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:07 (twelve years ago)
xpost Every single place reporting this links to the RS article. No other confirmation yet. Which does not negate its veracity, but ...
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:08 (twelve years ago)
Anyway, watch your back, Iggy!
c'mon guys the Daily Mail has it! Must be true!
― kate78, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:09 (twelve years ago)
Holy crap! RIP
― StanM, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:11 (twelve years ago)
If this is true, I mainly feel sad for Laurie Anderson.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:11 (twelve years ago)
An old friend died a couple of weeks ago, someone I remember spending a lot of time with at university, a lot of it playing Lou Reed and Velvets records while off our faces at like 2am. It was only last week I put Berlin on and pretty much lost my shit at the last four tracks, devastating. RIP.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:12 (twelve years ago)
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When Vanity Fair magazine asked him to give his definition of abject misery a few years ago, Reed's response was simply: "Being interviewed by an English journalist".
rip lou
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:15 (twelve years ago)
the fuck is actually rn
― Paraoxonases in Inflammation, Infection, and Toxicology (nakhchivan), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:16 (twelve years ago)
like is every media outlet phoning RS, getting told yeah its true, then waiting an indeterminate length of time before conceding RS aren't making this up
― Paraoxonases in Inflammation, Infection, and Toxicology (nakhchivan), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:17 (twelve years ago)
Yes they are all getting on their phones and calling Rolling Stone.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:21 (twelve years ago)
blow me you landill shithead
― Paraoxonases in Inflammation, Infection, and Toxicology (nakhchivan), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:22 (twelve years ago)
landfill oy
srsly like really given the number of journalists here can someone explain what the protocol is when a single source is claiming something like this?
― Paraoxonases in Inflammation, Infection, and Toxicology (nakhchivan), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:23 (twelve years ago)
Here in the big city we got a wordFor those who would bed their beloved big birdAnd make a mockery of our freedomsWithout even using a condomWithout even saying " no "By god we have a name for people like thatIt's - hey motherfucker
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:25 (twelve years ago)
now it is.....foxnews
― Paraoxonases in Inflammation, Infection, and Toxicology (nakhchivan), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:26 (twelve years ago)
xposts I'm sure they're all trying to confirm independently. But I can also imagine that that's hard, especially on a Sunday, and it's not hard to believe that RS happens to have sources on this that others don't have easy access to.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:27 (twelve years ago)
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1498177.1382897594!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/spl563730-005.jpg
― brimstead, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:28 (twelve years ago)
John Cale's last revenge: being the single source for Jon Dolan.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:28 (twelve years ago)
"I get scared in Sweden."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xduERw9BSns
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:30 (twelve years ago)
IMDb's headline: "Lou Reed, 'Walk on the Wild Side' Singer, Dead at 71"
I guess, but still, *sigh*
― a fifth of misty beethoven (cryptosicko), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:32 (twelve years ago)
Better than "Beloved Honda scooter pitchman."
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:34 (twelve years ago)
Still no story in the New York Times. That will be the nail in the coffin, so to speak, for me.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:34 (twelve years ago)
"Recent Metallica Collaborator"
― a fifth of misty beethoven (cryptosicko), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:35 (twelve years ago)
beloved Metallica collaborator
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:35 (twelve years ago)
guardian confirming it now as well. RIP lou
― sonderangerbot, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:35 (twelve years ago)
his agent confirmed it to the Graun a couple of minutes ago
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:35 (twelve years ago)
Re Blue clip about his Dodgers departure trauma, I always took him for a Mets fan, cuz first time I saw him live (Capitol Theater, Passaic NJ, 1984) the crowd chanted "Looooouuu" and he said "That sounds like you want Mookie Wilson."
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:37 (twelve years ago)
So wait, this weekend Arthur C. Danto and Lou Reed, two guys with a strong Warhol connection. Who is the third one who should be running scared?
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:37 (twelve years ago)
Iggy?
Yesterday the woman who voiced Mrs. Krabappel died.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:39 (twelve years ago)
aka Carol the Receptionist
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:40 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, Guardian cites his agent, though no story yet ...
:(
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:40 (twelve years ago)
legit sad abt this regardless of the inevitability
― Paraoxonases in Inflammation, Infection, and Toxicology (nakhchivan), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:40 (twelve years ago)
I'm mostly glad I went to see him a few times when I had the chance. Got to hear Laurie playing the Cale part while he sang "Venus in Furs," that counted as a lifetime musical highlight.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:44 (twelve years ago)
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:40 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and elite match game panelist.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:44 (twelve years ago)
last great american whale
― buzza, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:45 (twelve years ago)
i just loved the way in which he was just so straightforward about stuff (his way of writing a song and his subject matter). no bullshit, i mean people may say he glamorised a certain seediness but that was his life
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:47 (twelve years ago)
If you tie a contact mike to a new-born baby and spin it by the umbilical cord, think of the sound.
― ogmor, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:51 (twelve years ago)
Lulu-Last great american album
― nostormo, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:51 (twelve years ago)
The British rock band The Who took to twitter, "R.I.P. Lou Reed. Walk on the peaceful side."
― buzza, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:52 (twelve years ago)
Each band member wrote a word
― nostormo, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:53 (twelve years ago)
OK, now it's on the Times site.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:55 (twelve years ago)
Whether we're talking about music or attitude or leather jackets or lifestyle or whatever, if it weren't for Lou Reed, so many people wouldn't have had stuff to like. RIP, you old grouch.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:55 (twelve years ago)
Was Lulu his last release? That's up there with Transformers The Movie being the last performance of Orson Welles.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:57 (twelve years ago)
I am in the laundromat but when I get back upstairs I'm gonna play waves of fear
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:58 (twelve years ago)
fuck
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Sunday, 27 October 2013 18:59 (twelve years ago)
lol matt i also thought of orson welles when i realized lulu was his last release
― balls, Sunday, 27 October 2013 19:01 (twelve years ago)
actually fuck that "junior dad" is amazing
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Sunday, 27 October 2013 19:02 (twelve years ago)
phaps Chaplin & A Countess From Hong Kong is more like it
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 October 2013 19:02 (twelve years ago)
The liver takes it all
― nostormo, Sunday, 27 October 2013 19:03 (twelve years ago)
Sober since the 1880s and a practitioner of Tai Chi, Mr. Reed had a liver transplant in May 2013 in Cleveland.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 27 October 2013 19:12 (twelve years ago)
Was his last official released anything his Peter Gabriel cover?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 October 2013 19:17 (twelve years ago)
I used to see him and Laurie eating sushi all the time in midtown in the mid-90s at our favorite spot, but I never said anything because, you know, that's Lou Reed. He's got more attitude than anyone in Jersey.
"I'll be the wind, the rain and the sunsetThe light on your door to show that you're home."
RIP good sir
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 27 October 2013 19:26 (twelve years ago)
ugh, just found out
RIP lou reed
― reckless woo (Z S), Sunday, 27 October 2013 19:32 (twelve years ago)
now it's all up to max
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 October 2013 19:34 (twelve years ago)
Only just starting to shake off a bastard of a hangover, I'm supposed to be going to a party now and all I really wanna do is drink wine and bump drella velvets mmm even transformer for the 1st time in about a decade; at least I know what my comedown music will be tomorrow.
Enjoying the idea that the big storm rattling the UK tonight is Lou's wrathful spirit
― Jesus (wins), Sunday, 27 October 2013 19:38 (twelve years ago)
yes
― Paraoxonases in Inflammation, Infection, and Toxicology (nakhchivan), Sunday, 27 October 2013 19:41 (twelve years ago)
Someone just mentioned that it was almost 44 years to the day after the Live 1969 shows in San Francisco.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 27 October 2013 19:45 (twelve years ago)
Is the 3CD version of WL/WH still happening in December now?
― StanM, Sunday, 27 October 2013 19:56 (twelve years ago)
Lou wasnt about the drink and drugs yknow, sometimes he just wanted to play football for the coach too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwLlvcDi4PQ
― subaltern 8 (Michael B), Sunday, 27 October 2013 20:05 (twelve years ago)
oooh .. that picture with laurie.damn.
i only have the one vu album, vu + nico, playing it now.it encapsulates so much of what i love about music.always been worried about getting more that i would be disappointed given how special the debut is.a weird reaction i know, but thats the way it is ..
rest easy fella ..
― mark e, Sunday, 27 October 2013 20:55 (twelve years ago)
you should really listen to all of their studio albums plus 1969: VU Live and the compilation titled "VU". they are a different band without Nico but not a worse one. each of the albums is different, in my view, and special in its own way
― (emphasis Treeship's) (Treeship), Sunday, 27 October 2013 20:58 (twelve years ago)
you are missing out on some of the best music ever if you've never heard that stuff
― (emphasis Treeship's) (Treeship), Sunday, 27 October 2013 20:59 (twelve years ago)
i guess squeeze isn't up there with the immortals. that's their only subpar release
― (emphasis Treeship's) (Treeship), Sunday, 27 October 2013 21:00 (twelve years ago)
hat trick
― rip van wanko, Sunday, 27 October 2013 21:02 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDRjsKcFC9g
― pplains, Sunday, 27 October 2013 21:04 (twelve years ago)
― they're not chanting Lou, they're calling you 'boo' (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 27 October 2013 21:17 (twelve years ago)
― Jesus (wins), Sunday, October 27, 2013 7:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol. maybe the incoming transport issues will prevent a musician from having to talk to a journalist
― when I was Ted Croker man I couldn't picture this (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 27 October 2013 21:21 (twelve years ago)
btw : why is this thread on ile ?
― mark e, Sunday, 27 October 2013 21:21 (twelve years ago)
Many of the group’s themes — among them love, sexual deviance, alienation, addiction, joy and spiritual transfiguration — stayed in Mr. Reed’s work through his long run of solo recordings. Among the most noteworthy of those records were “Transformer” (1973), “Berlin” (1973) and “New York” (1992). The most notorious, without question, was “Metal Machine Music” (1975).Beloved of Mr. Reed and not too many others, “Metal Machine Music”
Beloved of Mr. Reed and not too many others, “Metal Machine Music”
nytimes insightful as ever
― Paraoxonases in Inflammation, Infection, and Toxicology (nakhchivan), Sunday, 27 October 2013 21:22 (twelve years ago)
oh I do believeif you don't like things you leavefor someplace you've never been before
oh I do believeyou are what you perceivewhat comes is better than what came before
― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Sunday, 27 October 2013 21:25 (twelve years ago)
i like the anecdote about the club manager who threatened to fire them if they kept playing "The Black Angel's Death Song".
― (emphasis Treeship's) (Treeship), Sunday, 27 October 2013 21:42 (twelve years ago)
psychic savagery.
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Sunday, 27 October 2013 22:04 (twelve years ago)
the man finally turned up for him then.
― For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Sunday, 27 October 2013 22:30 (twelve years ago)
Just got in the house after a long car journey..
Weird: I was playing the "Who loves the sun" single off a cdr I'd made of recent purchases, and after the b-side had played I turned onto R1, and they'd just played "Walk on the wild side", and were talking about his legacy. I wondered why, and then I wondered no more..
"Say a word for Lewis Reed..."
― Mark G, Sunday, 27 October 2013 22:50 (twelve years ago)
Not feeling the need to play his music, to be honest. His death feels like a famous building that's been torn down.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 October 2013 22:58 (twelve years ago)
Mo Tucker reminiscing on CNN by phone!
RIP, so so obviously
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:16 (twelve years ago)
glad to know there's already an RIP thread for my man. Why the fuck do people around here feel the need to augment thread titles with RIP whenever somebody dies?
― brimstead, Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:24 (twelve years ago)
Because they're dead?
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:31 (twelve years ago)
This one was pre-augmented.
― Victor Immature (WilliamC), Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:39 (twelve years ago)
can some mod please go and add RIP to every thread about a person who is no longer alive?
― brimstead, Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:41 (twelve years ago)
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:41 (twelve years ago)
Why the fuck do people around here feel the need to augment thread titles with RIP whenever somebody dies?
The best way to honor Lou is to get cranky about stuff
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:42 (twelve years ago)
hell yeah
― brimstead, Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:42 (twelve years ago)
I remember an essay from about 10 years ago by a woman who was in a Yoga class with Lou. The instructor tried to adjust his positioning and he screamed out in pain.
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:45 (twelve years ago)
brimsteadYou hit me with a flower
― buzza, Sunday, 27 October 2013 23:47 (twelve years ago)
buzzaI'll put my band on your dick
― brimstead, Monday, 28 October 2013 00:19 (twelve years ago)
hand
Apologies if anyone has already linked this, but it's great
http://oh-whiskers.tumblr.com/post/65264191945/lou-reed-dispels-rumors-of-his-death-on-snl-may
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 28 October 2013 01:12 (twelve years ago)
― luriqua, Saturday, August 25, 2007 2:49 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― flopson, Monday, 28 October 2013 01:43 (twelve years ago)
and Lou Reed did a fanfuckingtastic cover of Dylan's "Foot of Pride"
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 01:45 (twelve years ago)
Uncle Lou!
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 28 October 2013 01:49 (twelve years ago)
Apologies if anyone has already linked this, but it's greathttp://oh-whiskers.tumblr.com/post/65264191945/lou-reed-dispels-rumors-of-his-death-on-snl-may
I was looking for the actual clip earlier today...NBC had it up on the SNL page, but perhaps they pulled it today because the page won't load properly...one of the first things I think of whenever his demise was rumored.
Listening to Live 1969 now after having avoided music since hearing the news, which is finally hitting me and sinking in. RIP
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 28 October 2013 02:00 (twelve years ago)
Chrisgtau's obit, correct to single out his last thirty years.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 02:04 (twelve years ago)
"This kind of rock and roll proved more malleable than it first seemed — in 2006 I triangulated my favorite current American band, yclept Wussy, as merging the Velvet Underground and the Flying Burrito Brothers."
what the hell is that? a google search for it brings back this very article as the first result!
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 28 October 2013 02:09 (twelve years ago)
let us now kiss the culprit!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 02:10 (twelve years ago)
Glad xgau brings it. Well done.
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 02:25 (twelve years ago)
Whoa.http://www.timesofisrael.com/lou-reeds-contradictory-jewishness/
He had a more recent Israel connection, though: Last year, a new genus of velvet spider found living underground in Israel’s south was named after him. A team of researchers from the US and Europe named the spider Loureedia annulipes after finding the species in sand dunes near Halukim and Nitzana in the Negev desert.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 02:32 (twelve years ago)
The sand dunes near Haikunym and nabisco
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 02:35 (twelve years ago)
Apologies if everybody else already knew about that velvet spider.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 02:36 (twelve years ago)
psychic savagery.― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:04 PM
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:04 PM
it made me dream of nosferatu trapped on the isle of doctor moreau in the dark of the moon
― markers, Monday, 28 October 2013 02:44 (twelve years ago)
― socki (s1ocki), Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:09 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark
lmao
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 28 October 2013 02:44 (twelve years ago)
yclept Wussy.
I never said I was yclept!
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 02:48 (twelve years ago)
yclept Jean
― flopson, Monday, 28 October 2013 02:49 (twelve years ago)
yclept palate
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 October 2013 02:52 (twelve years ago)
Lol james
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 02:54 (twelve years ago)
ycleptɪˈklɛpt/adjectivearchaicadjective: yclept
1. by the name of. http://bnreview.barnesandnoble.com/t5/Rock-Roll/The-Many-Reasons-to-Love-Wussy/ba-p/7259
― zvookster, Monday, 28 October 2013 02:57 (twelve years ago)
pretty good band name
4 Hungry4Ass 2 pee on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xq1CJp_lgM
― buzza, Monday, 28 October 2013 03:00 (twelve years ago)
For those who missed the first time around: In Praise Of...Lou Reed "Take No Prisoners"
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 03:10 (twelve years ago)
Being a permalink to the spot on that thread where tylerw linked to an incredible 1979 radio broadcast from WPIX-FM in NYC in which Lou was guest DJ and John Cale came by to visit.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 03:13 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, that's the way I continue to remember him, often ornery or grouchy, but more often a pussycat who cared.. It was always surprising that he did things like that radio show but his enthusiasm for rock&roll was something he protected, and kept all his life.
Also seek out his guest spot on Elvis Costello's tv show.
― Mark G, Monday, 28 October 2013 07:26 (twelve years ago)
(xp) Yeah, good work James Redd and tylerw and all the other Lounuts on here, love you guys. Yesterday afternoon I saw Joe Boyd talking about how peoples' lives had been changed by Elvis... by Dylan... even by Syd Barrett! But I've never believed any of that romantic hyperbole... then I went to meet some old skool ILXors for some FAPing and that's when I heard Lou Reed was dead. I still don't believe Joe Boyd but Lou definitely had the greatest effect of any singer/songwriter/whatever on me, didn't change my life but changed something. Anyway, I was going to lapse into some maudlin reminsicing about my sister bringing home the 1st Velvets LP when I was, what, 13 or 14 and me sneaking it out in my schoolbag one morning to play in the school common room (I played "Heroin" of course!"), but I won't, even tho I just have. RIP Lou.
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2013 09:02 (twelve years ago)
(Is it weird to wish I could read what Bimble would have to say about Lou right now? Probably)
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2013 09:03 (twelve years ago)
that christgau piece is excellent
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Monday, 28 October 2013 09:13 (twelve years ago)
Alfred's piece might be better
― they're not chanting Lou, they're calling you 'boo' (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 28 October 2013 09:58 (twelve years ago)
(def ends better imo)
― they're not chanting Lou, they're calling you 'boo' (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 28 October 2013 09:59 (twelve years ago)
I was intrigued to learn in the Metro this morning that Lou had collaborated with Lulu (they've corrected it on the online version)
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Monday, 28 October 2013 10:12 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, Alfred's is the keeper of all the pieces I've seen so far.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 October 2013 10:56 (twelve years ago)
gee, I guess I need to listen to Ecstasy at some point
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 October 2013 11:30 (twelve years ago)
Alfred's piece is excellent!
― Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Monday, 28 October 2013 11:48 (twelve years ago)
I've come out of my closet, out in the streets, and am wearing my Sally Can't Dance t-shirt in work today
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2013 12:10 (twelve years ago)
After Sid Vicious of the Sex Pistols died of a heroin overdose, bandmate Johnny Rotten observed: ‘I blame it on too many Lou Reed albums.’Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2478118/Paul-Dacre-enjoyed-VERY-debauched-walk-wild-excess-caught-him.html#ixzz2j1FsI4PY Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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― Mark G, Monday, 28 October 2013 12:31 (twelve years ago)
Would have posted his final "door" pic, but Facebook has it on secured, and the only not-sec one was a DM pic, so..
― Mark G, Monday, 28 October 2013 12:37 (twelve years ago)
Thanks, stevie and everyone!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 12:55 (twelve years ago)
So the DM chose to venerate Cory Montieth because of his many accomplishments, yet attempts to tarnish Lou Reed's legacy. Lou must be laughing from beyond.
Also, my conclusion: Lou Reed glamorised drugs because he lived to the age of 71.
― Mark G, Monday, 28 October 2013 12:57 (twelve years ago)
Spin piece is surprisingly comprehensible for someone yclept Christgau.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 October 2013 13:45 (twelve years ago)
Door pic?
http://i.imgur.com/lwCOlRq.jpg
― pplains, Monday, 28 October 2013 13:49 (twelve years ago)
Was that photo posted on Twitter before he died? Was it intended as some kind of final image?
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Monday, 28 October 2013 13:54 (twelve years ago)
Saw it on Facebook.
― pplains, Monday, 28 October 2013 13:57 (twelve years ago)
Alfred and John Doran's pieces are the two best I've seen thus far.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 28 October 2013 14:20 (twelve years ago)
poll
― socki (s1ocki), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:25 (twelve years ago)
I just don't think about music that deeply, and have to date ignored all the solo stuff until The Blue Mask. Sorta similar to my interest in Neil Young's career.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:27 (twelve years ago)
(obv I've heard some of the '72-81 stuff, but never sought it; maybe I own Berlin, don't remember)
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:28 (twelve years ago)
the blue mask is so great.
― scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 14:29 (twelve years ago)
mm, except I have literally ignored the entirety of Neil Young's career.
(except two things, a "Decade" CD I got from Fopp for £5, never played, and the "My My/Hey Hey" single what I have.)
― Mark G, Monday, 28 October 2013 14:30 (twelve years ago)
last album i bought was new york. i didn't care for it at the time. haven't listened since. saw him on that tour and he made you sit through the entire new york album before he played other stuff. which was kind of a bummer at the time. the feelies opened up though and that made up for a lot. the new york tour show was kinda like chamber rock. so refined. like, this is "serious" rock.
― scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 14:32 (twelve years ago)
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/810311-velvet-underground-horrifies-psychiatrists-1966.html
"a short-lived torture of cacophony ... a combination of rock 'n' roll and Egyptian belly-dance music ... it seemed like a whole prison ward had escaped."
― dmr, Monday, 28 October 2013 14:35 (twelve years ago)
ha I remember when during an interview with Nick Cave, Jim DeRo went off unprompted about Lou Reed live shows being like "chamber rock" and I thought Cave was going to kill him. "He's a genius! Who are you to question him?"
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:38 (twelve years ago)
what is he trying to do with that "faulty map that brought Columbus to New York" line anyway? parody historical ignorance?
After hearing "Walk on the Wild Side" I think my second exposure to him was his really good villainous performance in the Paul Simon movie.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:41 (twelve years ago)
mine second was 'the doors' movie
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:43 (twelve years ago)
i mean "my"
maybe he was talking about Columbus Circle
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:44 (twelve years ago)
are people serious about the blue mask? i mean... "i love women! they are great! so soft, so nice! the world would be terrible without women! ps no homo" and singing maybe every ninth note in tune, if we're being charitable. i dunno. i always read such great things about this record and it just sounds dreadful to me.
new york was the first lou reed record i ever knowingly heard, and i only got it because there was a video for dirty boulevard on MTV. i loved the hell out of that record. i listened to it a LOT. i had no idea who the velvet underground even were. i probably wouldn't have liked them very much.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:52 (twelve years ago)
Alfred and Doran's are both great, Christgau's is terrible. As an ilxor said on twitter, paraphrasing here, it was nice of Christgau to spend a few pages of his autobiography mentioning Lour Reed.
― JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:52 (twelve years ago)
Tracer: concentrate on Quine's work.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:54 (twelve years ago)
i love the blue mask. its magic and has magical healing properties.
― scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 14:54 (twelve years ago)
i mean you could call the blue mask chamber rock too but the tone is soooooooo perfect and i don't think he ever got such a perfect sound again. or i missed it if he did.
― scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 14:55 (twelve years ago)
currently enjoying the lengthy sister rays on the quine tapes
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:58 (twelve years ago)
― scott seward, Monday, October 28, 2013 10:32 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
New York was also my last contemporary Lou purchase, but I dug it at the time; the sound mostly, as he'd finally gotten away from his failed attempts at drummachinery. But I haven't listened to it since 1989, and I don't see myself revisiting it.
Also saw him on that tour, but I was into the record, so I didn't mind that he played the whole thing. The drummer was fucking fantastic; I still remember him lurching into "Romeo Had Juliet" like it was yesterday. Can't remember his name, though (different drummer than on the record). I don't remember Lou taking many, or any, solos, and his lame guitarist lamed up the joint by playing the "Walk On The Wild Side" saxophone solo note-for-note on guitar.
All I remember about the Feelies' set was the sound was muddy.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 15:03 (twelve years ago)
full disclosure: I haven't listened to The Blue Mask in at least 20 years, so ymmv. (and the only lyrics i recall well are "The Day John Kennedy Died," wtf with that one)
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 28 October 2013 15:07 (twelve years ago)
Just listened to it this morning for the first time in (counts on fingers, counts again to make sure, fuck, that's a long time) 23 years. It more than holds up, but yeah, the Kennedy song is kind of goofy.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 15:10 (twelve years ago)
Goofy Lou is almost my favourite Lou
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Monday, 28 October 2013 15:12 (twelve years ago)
Yessssss
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 15:16 (twelve years ago)
btw, brilliant piece, Alfred.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 15:19 (twelve years ago)
Aw guys
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 15:21 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, 2nded, 3rded, 4thed -- terrific piece. I think you're right on about what made him great and what didn't. (Also right on that I gave Berlin the dutiful couple of listens when I dutifully bought it years ago, and have rarely returned to it.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 28 October 2013 15:22 (twelve years ago)
Coley
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 15:35 (twelve years ago)
ha. me too. first was REM covering "Pale Blue Eyes" on Dead Letter Office although I guess I had probably heard Walk on the Wild Side by that point too.
― dmr, Monday, 28 October 2013 15:59 (twelve years ago)
so funny talking to christgau last week at harvard about byron. they have never met in person. i don't know why i thought that was strange. always feel like everyone must know each other. but byron always proud of his lone wolf status. xgau still kinda peeved about byron and the sonic youth song-title thing. which i admit i kinda thought was funny. that he was still a little mad. in my old age i get along really well with byron AND the dean.
― scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 16:09 (twelve years ago)
Alfred's piece is good, but I dunno, it doesn't mention Wussy at all, what's up with that?
― some dude, Monday, 28 October 2013 16:16 (twelve years ago)
I had probably read about the Velvet Underground in CREEM or RS, and I found a cheapo compilation LP used, maybe 1982? It had "I Heard Her Call My Name" on it, which hooked me right away - could not believe that solo. I somehow convinced my mom to buy me the $18 copy of WL/WH that was on the wall of a local record store - this was an unheard-of sum for an album in 1983/84, but the records were all out of print and hard to find until the '86 reissues. I found a French pressing of the 3rd album used somewhere later that year and then I think I found VU and Nico last. Lou's solo work was pretty much a given then, lots of people had copies of Transformer and/or R&R Animal. New Sensations was also big then.
This was my gateway record:
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/25300000/Velvet-Underground-the-velvet-underground-25381527-399-400.jpg
― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Monday, 28 October 2013 16:19 (twelve years ago)
Blue Mask is great though "Women" isn't a strong track. The way into the album is the slow-burn raveup that leads out of "My House" imo
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 28 October 2013 16:20 (twelve years ago)
So Byron's writing for Arthur mag these days. Hadn't read him much in ages, but used to read he and the Dean both.
The Legs Mcneil obit of Lou was much more about Legs than about Lou, and not very insightful about either.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 28 October 2013 16:23 (twelve years ago)
Byron's been writing for Arthur since it began
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 16:24 (twelve years ago)
haha that times piece on the warhol/shrink party from '66 doesn't even mention reed, calls cale the VU's "leader"
― goole, Monday, 28 October 2013 16:28 (twelve years ago)
My wife is very bummed. Lou Reed was her one big idol who lived a long time, but she never had a chance to catch live. She's turned me on to some of his later albums like Set The Twilight Reeling and Songs For Drella, which I didn't catch when they first came out. Lotta good stuff there that's maybe not as well appreciated as the classics.
― Moodles, Monday, 28 October 2013 16:39 (twelve years ago)
― some dude
wussied out
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 16:46 (twelve years ago)
His article was the ycleption in that regard.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 28 October 2013 17:04 (twelve years ago)
I know right? Found that article via the Times' Sam Sifton on Twitter btw.
― dmr, Monday, 28 October 2013 17:15 (twelve years ago)
first was REM covering "Pale Blue Eyes" on Dead Letter Office although I guess I had probably heard Walk on the Wild Side by that point too.
I am trying to remember how/when I encountered Lou beyond "Walk on the Wild Side," which was in regular rotation on my local rock station in the early '80s. I'm pretty sure my dad picked up a copy of The Blue Mask used, out of curiosity, but I don't think he liked it because I don't remember ever hearing it. I just remember the cover. Dead Letter Office was almost certainly the first place I heard "Pale Blue Eyes," and Sister Lovers was where I first heard "Femme Fatale." Then suddenly in 1985 they were being talked about everywhere, because of VU and also because of Psychocandy. JAMC is the first (of many) bands that I remember being tagged as Velvet acolytes. Anyway, at some point in there I bought the whole run from Nico to Loaded and figured out what the fuss was about. But it's funny to think that there was nearly a 20-year period when they really didn't get talked about very much outside a fairly small critical circle.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 28 October 2013 17:20 (twelve years ago)
1993 was my year: three different Velvets covers, peaking with Bryan Ferry's "All Tomorrow's Eyes," then downhill with Duran Duran ("Femme Fatale") and Billy Idol ("Heroin"). Intrigued, I bought Words and Music of Lou Reed, which for many of us was the only way to hear the big VU songs before the mid nineties remasters.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 17:25 (twelve years ago)
The hard one to track down in the mid-late '80s was Loaded, which iirc was not reissued when VU came out. (The first three were, I think.) After months of trawling I finally turned it up in a used bin.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 28 October 2013 17:35 (twelve years ago)
Weird, because I remember Loaded being the only one in print in the US when I bought it, which would have been summer of 1980.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 17:37 (twelve years ago)
Loaded was on a different label than the others
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)
Oh, Cowboy Junkies doing "Sweet Jane" (on MTV no less) was another profile-boosting moment. At a time that Cowboy Junkies had a higher profile than VU.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 28 October 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)
Sister Lovers was where I first heard "Femme Fatale."
huh, that's interesting. I didn't hear Big Star until several years after I had first heard VU. Sister Lovers in particular was hard to find for a while iirc.
― dmr, Monday, 28 October 2013 17:47 (twelve years ago)
Yes, Loaded was after they got signed to the Atlantic subsidiary Cotillion. The others were on Verve.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 17:54 (twelve years ago)
xpost Yeah, that was a fluke purchase for me. I'd heard Big Star touted as this power-pop legend and went looking for their records. The only thing I could find in print at my local store was a copy of Sister Lovers, in one of its forms (don't remember the label). It was not at all what I was expecting, but I totally fell in love with it. I didn't hear #1 Record and Radio City until several years later, when they came out on a combined CD.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 28 October 2013 17:56 (twelve years ago)
Was Lou Reed the first out rock star?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:00 (twelve years ago)
I bought Loaded new in 1985; wasn't particularly hard to find, and I don't know if it ever went out of print between 1970-1985.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:03 (twelve years ago)
First memories of Lou Reed was "I Love You, Suzanne" and him holding the Atari joystick.
That Honda commercial was on all the time and even today when I see a photo of him -- even that door one upthread -- I hear his voice in my head say, "Don't settle for walkin'."
There was this brief period where I was discovering that all these 80s rock stars were also big in the 70s. Oh wow, Robert Plant used to have really long hair. Freddie Mercury's in a leotard!
And somewhere along the line, I saw the cover of The Velvet Underground and thought, Whoa, so that's what Lou Reed's eyes look like.
― pplains, Monday, 28 October 2013 18:10 (twelve years ago)
I had a hell of a time finding Loaded in 1989. Ended up ordering it on CD and receiving vinyl instead.
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:11 (twelve years ago)
I found 1969 Live and The VU & Nico (still sealed) at Vinyl Solution in Tuscaloosa in 1982, and Loaded not long after that. 2nd & 3rd albums didn't happen until the 1986 reissues, but some songs from those two were available on the 1980 comp Rock and Roll Diary 1967-1980.
― Victor Immature (WilliamC), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:12 (twelve years ago)
how available were the RCA solo albums in the mid eighties?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:15 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm8n0vhVJcg this is how i'll remember him
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:15 (twelve years ago)
Alfred - used LPs were cheap and plentiful back then, but I never saw the 1st one for some reason.
― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:20 (twelve years ago)
I'd guess the RCA albums were generally in print? You'd have to order them, of course, in most stores. A store like Tower might have kept certain titles in stock.
― timellison, Monday, 28 October 2013 18:22 (twelve years ago)
Only RCA title I saw new in the 80s was Transformer. The other RCA titles were used (and insanely expensive, particularly at a notorious suburban Chicago record store), except for Rock 'n' Roll Animal, but that had gotten the RCA "Best Buy" half-assed pseudo-reissue treatment.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:28 (twelve years ago)
Yup. Some of us bought a few of those RCAs on eight-track, a format we might have otherwise shunned.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:34 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, I remember seeing Transformer a lot, that's pretty much it for that era.
The Lou Reed album I remember seeing most at record stores was Mistrial, because by 1987 it was in every remainder bin everywhere.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:34 (twelve years ago)
Now that I think about it, that definitely sounds right. When I bought a used copy of the first album, I remember thinking, "You never see this."
― timellison, Monday, 28 October 2013 18:36 (twelve years ago)
I'm thinking he got higher promo budgets b/w New Sensations and Magic and Loss.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:37 (twelve years ago)
when he did the amex magazine ad my local record store taped it to the plastic divider in the vinyl bins and wrote SELLOUT on it in sharpie
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:37 (twelve years ago)
that was raven records in knoxville, tennessee, fact fans
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:38 (twelve years ago)
https://twitter.com/GaizkaMendieta6/status/394837463531012096/photo/1
― Paraoxonases in Inflammation, Infection, and Toxicology (nakhchivan), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:42 (twelve years ago)
I bought Coney Island Baby in the late 80s. Transformer was definitely around. NEVER saw the 1st one either, still don't really. Rock n Roll Animal also really common.
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:50 (twelve years ago)
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Bought the cassette on release day. First song: "Neat!" Every song thereafter: "uh...oh..."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:57 (twelve years ago)
"Metal Machine Music" was pretty hard to find (paid $40 for the first copy I saw, in '89)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 28 October 2013 19:02 (twelve years ago)
yeah was gonna mention that, I never saw a copy of that until a few years ago.
― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Monday, 28 October 2013 19:12 (twelve years ago)
I remember Loaded being available as a mid price lp in the 80s. I think that cover was well known though I don't think I was familiar with the record until a while later. THink I came to the s/t 3rd lp a while later too, though I think it was that record that a lot of 80s Australian & possibly NZ bands were being compared to. I was familiar with & Nico in my early teens and used to go around at school singing what I knew of Waiting For The Man. Think I got WL/WH a year or so later but got it with the UK cover.
I also remember that there was a Velvets history in NME in '79 or '80 when I think the 1st lp was reissued. Wishing I'd made sure I had the gatefold sleeve version of the lp when I picked it up in 81 or 82 cos it does add to the cover. THink it may have been a couple of £ more expensive at a time i didn't have oodles of money though.
― Stevolende, Monday, 28 October 2013 19:30 (twelve years ago)
Save Mistrial for the sake of "Tell It to Your Heart" and "I Remember You."
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 19:31 (twelve years ago)
"I bought Loaded new in 1985;"
same here. or maybe 1984? it was perfect for all the acid i was taking. and i bought new sensations when it came out. and i had growing up in public on tape. dollar cut-out. i also had some Pear Records budget double album that had stuff from the first album and live stuff from Lou Reed Live on it. i played that thing a zillion times. my brother had all the lou solo i think, but i didn't really listen to his copies. got everything else bit by bit as the years went by. i don't remember when in the 80's i got the rest of the velvets stuff.
― scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 19:33 (twelve years ago)
oh and the live at max's album. bought that new around the time i got loaded. those two you could find.
Yeah, I bought New Sensations around the same time, on cassette. I remember seeing the video for "I Love You, Suzanne" on an ABC Saturday morning video show aimed at kids, hosted by Wolfman Jack.
Lou in the wild: last Friday I heard "New Sensations" on the local "classic rock" station. This is one of those "classic rock" stations that's far more likely to play Warrant or Whitesnake than Humble Pie or Bad Company; as such, the likelihood that you'll even hear "Walk On The Wild Side" is zilch. "New Sensations" was a serious left-field pick.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 19:40 (twelve years ago)
Cardinal Ravasi's homage to Lou Reed: https://twitter.com/CardRavasi/status/394756812576006145
― c21m50nh3x460n, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:08 (twelve years ago)
you're going to tweet just what you post
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:14 (twelve years ago)
xpost -- Well I didn't expect THAT.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:14 (twelve years ago)
"New Sensations" wasn't even a single!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:20 (twelve years ago)
I remember seeing the video for "I Love You, Suzanne" on an ABC Saturday morning video show aimed at kids, hosted by Wolfman Jack.
Yes! I remember this show too. It's where I saw "What's Love Got to Do with It" by Tina Turner for the first time.
― pplains, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:24 (twelve years ago)
NYC eateries talk about Lou's change to a macrobiotic diet:http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/28/dining/for-lou-reeds-chefs-a-walk-on-the-mild-side.html
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 28 October 2013 21:06 (twelve years ago)
http://www.missionmission.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/giffer.gif
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 21:06 (twelve years ago)
(Osage St in the Mission in SF)
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 21:07 (twelve years ago)
I mean this in the best way possible: It's no surprise that this is easily the most entertaining RIP thread I've read this year.
― pplains, Monday, 28 October 2013 21:10 (twelve years ago)
i would like to thank my local libraries for having some of the recorded output of VU and Lou Reed. Otherwise I don't think I would have ever heard that stuff in high school. IIRC there wasn't much solo Cale, but there was Eno and Cale bc I distinctly remember liking "Spinning Away".
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 28 October 2013 21:13 (twelve years ago)
Yeah I got Velvet Underground & Nico from my local public library.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 28 October 2013 21:15 (twelve years ago)
good ol' geeta:
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2013/10/lou_reed_s_metal_machine_music_the_artist_was_a_rock_god_he_was_also_a_big.html
― scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 21:28 (twelve years ago)
ann powers:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/therecord/2013/10/27/240841092/what-lou-reed-taught-me
― scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 21:29 (twelve years ago)
carl wilson:
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/music_box/2013/10/lou_read_obit_an_appreciation_of_the_velvet_underground_frontman.single.html
I love Rob Sheff's, particularly for explaining why Lou was an awesome guitarist.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 21:40 (twelve years ago)
x-post- My university radio station in 1979 was run by Radio/tv/film majors who wanted to get jobs at top 40 stations and believed that the university's am carrier current station heard only in buildings on campus and the low-watt FM station should just imitate commercial top 40 radio of the time. But they let us djs get a few token choices of our own per hour on the air. Freshman me found the Velvets back in the record library, and played "Heroin" in the wee hours on the AM station. The program director later disdainfully asked why I would choose to play a song with that title. She then listened to it, and said "sounds like that guy is on heroin." I forgot how I responded, but she dealt with it (she was a graduating senior), and eventually me and others transformed the Fm station into a free-form one where such a question was never asked again.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 28 October 2013 21:41 (twelve years ago)
What a shitty excuse for a program director!
― Victor Immature (WilliamC), Monday, 28 October 2013 21:49 (twelve years ago)
I wanna talk to that program director, she threw a cup at curmudgeon.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 21:58 (twelve years ago)
http://www.theonion.com/articles/today-particularly-rough-day-for-east-village-junk,34367/
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 October 2013 22:00 (twelve years ago)
Does anybody know where I can find that 1979 WPIX radio show with Lou and Cale? The link for it on that tumblr is gone.
― Fetchboy, Monday, 28 October 2013 22:22 (twelve years ago)
So, older people, did "I Love You, Suzanne" and "No Money Down" get daytime MTV play? Their respective album's chart positions suggest he was actually selling records, peaking of course with New York (certified gold).
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:24 (twelve years ago)
tylerw has it
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:25 (twelve years ago)
Seem to remember "Suzanne" being played a lot, vaguely remember there being a video.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:25 (twelve years ago)
So, older people, did "I Love You, Suzanne" and "No Money Down" get daytime MTV play?
I had a cassette "Best Of" of Reed's 70s solo stuff and got "New York" when it came out, but I didn't hear any of his other 80s records until I got to college and plundered the radio station. vague recollection of some late night performance (Letterman?) of "Joystick" or something like that.
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:27 (twelve years ago)
looks like that was "Video Violence" actually, 1986...?
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:29 (twelve years ago)
I just saw it. Eek.
"My Red Joystick" got play too apparently.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:34 (twelve years ago)
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier)
oh, thanks! Hadn't dug deep enough into the other thread.
― Fetchboy, Monday, 28 October 2013 22:35 (twelve years ago)
Lou did an in-store signing at Tower Records on W4th in support of that album. I went and remember being surprised when my friend from Canarsie asking him which of his albums was his favorite. I tensed up a little in anticipation of the response which turned out to merely be "I like 'em all."
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:43 (twelve years ago)
"Suzanne" and "No Money Down" were in regular rotation on MTV, but the former more than the latter. The live "Video Violence" (1986 Giants Stadium Amnesty Int'l show) was shown a lot, too (VJ Dweezil Zappa called it "the worst guitar solo of all time").
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:44 (twelve years ago)
(not nearly as notable as getting Iggy Pop's signature at the Tower in Austin)
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:44 (twelve years ago)
Just saw a piece on Lou on NBC news. Clips of "Heroin" and Metal Machine Music were played. On national network TV.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:45 (twelve years ago)
and by Brian Williams himself! He sounded moved.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:47 (twelve years ago)
and he mentioned Vaclev Havel!
I didn't say I liked the Art of Noise, I said I liked the sound of it. People I like are Afrika Bambataa and Soul Sonic Force. Rikki Lee Jones. Run DMC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=6-Nnq8BQ86M
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 22:47 (twelve years ago)
i have one of those cringeworthy memories of doing an oral report on heroin for my american studies class in 1985 and turning all the lights off and putting the shades down and playing "heroin" for the class on a boombox. i was trying to be deep.
― scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 23:01 (twelve years ago)
lol
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 28 October 2013 23:11 (twelve years ago)
oh Scott that's excellent. I did mostly the same with the Cure's Killing an Arab in my English class (we were reading The Stranger or Outsider or whichever one that was..)
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Monday, 28 October 2013 23:13 (twelve years ago)
My greatest record find of all time was finding the 8-track of Metal Machine Music at a truck stop in Barstow. Probably had been there since the release.
VU&N and WL/WH were pretty difficult to find in the early 80s. I found both of them used at Rhino Records in Claremont - the banana had been peeled, but even then finding an intact one was cost-prohibitive.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 28 October 2013 23:23 (twelve years ago)
I found both of them used at Rhino Records in Claremont
!
this was my record store as a young'un
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 October 2013 23:28 (twelve years ago)
I had Patti Smith's Radio Ethiopia on 8-track. It was so hard to find music I liked on used 8-tracks back in the early 80s (wasn't going to buy new just for the car).
I remember the VU 3rd being hard to find one in the 70s, with WL/WH being the easiest, and VU&N being not that bad. Don't remember whether Loaded was easy or not.
I bought MMM when it came out; when in high school a department store near me (Two Guys) kept the Billboard top 200 LPs on display (and on sale - $3.99 for single-LPs), and believe it or not MMM made the cut. Some pretty obscure stuff will show up in the top-200.
I also found great stuff at the Claremont Rhino.
― nickn, Monday, 28 October 2013 23:51 (twelve years ago)
luc sante:
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2013/10/lou-reed-gardenia-and-snowflake.html
― scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 23:59 (twelve years ago)
SFJ:
The famous quotation, widely attributed to Brian Eno, that “only a thousand people bought the Velvet Underground’s début, but they all started bands” is not wrong; if anything, it is conservative, though we have to range over many albums to size up Reed’s impact. “What Goes On” gave us the Feelies; “Sister Ray” gave us Spacemen 3; the third, self-titled Velvet Underground album gave us Galaxie 500, and maybe a chunk of the independent rock music made in New Zealand during the late nineteen-eighties. Reed’s tendency toward structural simplicity married to noise, and a faith that no word was above his listener’s head, is at the root of so much music that I am scared to make a list, in fear of the counterlists that will point out everyone who is missing.
On the Pixies’ 1987 début, “Come On Pilgrim,” Frank Black sang, “I wanna be a singer like Lou Reed.” That’s a fairly solid citation, so we’ve got one, for sure. We could venture further and say that David Byrne, Pavement’s Stephen Malkmus, and Ian Curtis would have thought very differently about music if not for Reed’s existence. The real list of who loved Lou Reed songs is probably something like “everyone,” though that doesn’t do much for anyone looking to find something to listen to right now.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:03 (twelve years ago)
i can't remember ever reading lou talking about dylan or dylan talking about lou. in an interview or whatever. like, what did lou think when he first heard dylan?
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:32 (twelve years ago)
Think they decided never to talk to or about each other because of Nico. Cherchez la femme.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:34 (twelve years ago)
In the mid-1960s, when the Velvet Underground was first trying to make it, someone, possibly Andy Warhol, was trying to get Dylan to see Lou Reed's young band. Robbie Robertson went to see the Velvets instead, and was not impressed. Referring to Reed, Robertson said, "That guitar player, he ain't nothin' ". Reed retorted by saying that Dylan's songs were "marijuana leftovers", and something like "Dylan is the type of person you'd want to punch out at a party."
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:37 (twelve years ago)
Reed praised Dylan at length in RS' '89 cover story -- said he made his assistant buy Down it the Groove so he could listen to "Rank Strangers to Me," as if working for Lou wasn't penance enough.
And he did a ripping job of covering "Foot of Pride" in '92.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:40 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIvfgVCJm4A
gaizka mendieta obviously has a lou reed story too https://twitter.com/GaizkaMendieta6/status/394837463531012096/photo/1
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:46 (twelve years ago)
i can't remember ever reading lou talking about dylan or dylan talking about lou. in an interview or whatever. like, what did lou think when he first heard dylan?iirc according to the transformer bio lou felt slighted that his songs weren't revered as much as dylan's.
― fit and working again, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:01 (twelve years ago)
i can't remember ever reading lou talking about dylan or dylan talking about lou. in an interview or whatever. like, what did lou think when he first heard dylan?― scott seward, Monday, October 28, 2013 5:32 PM (35 minutes ago)
― scott seward, Monday, October 28, 2013 5:32 PM (35 minutes ago)
Take a listen to the Peel Slowly & See demo disc...
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:09 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9xQ-xwz6lM
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:12 (twelve years ago)
Prominent Men, I guess, but the other demos, Albert R? Maybe I just don't remember them correctly (the lugubrious Cale ones I am thinking of...)
― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:14 (twelve years ago)
but that's not Lou, duh--sorry, disregard (sleepless)
Yeah I need to revisit them, but I remember there were some alt. takes or demos that sounded just as Dylan-esque as "Prominent Men".
I imagine it would be time-consuming to isolate the takes within the long unindexed tracks.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:18 (twelve years ago)
Maybe this one too?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmmMy-712ZA
Kinda reminds me of "These Days".
Speaking of the Nico+Dylan+Lou connection, didn't Lou play the guitar on Nico's "I'll Keep It With Mine"?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:22 (twelve years ago)
love that version
― iatee, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:26 (twelve years ago)
Nope. Wiki informs me that Jackson Browne plays on that track.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:26 (twelve years ago)
Run Run Run is pretty Dylanesque in the verses!
― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:35 (twelve years ago)
i have no doubt that a fiery pissed off jew storming the barricades of pop music in the early 60's influenced lou in a big way! i mean everyone took from dylan. in dress or attitude or song. and i know they were apparently friendly in the 80's? just never actually heard lou say anything about him later. but maybe he didn't want to remind people of dylan when talking about his own stuff because HE was the genius.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:50 (twelve years ago)
i mean they have always reminded me of each other.
this is pretty rocking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUH8VrIC1j8
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:51 (twelve years ago)
great sound and video on that clip too.
"tatters" one of those songs i don't know cuz i never listened to that album and now of course i want to listen to that album.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:53 (twelve years ago)
scott, you need Ecstacy! If you see a copy in your store, give it a listen.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:54 (twelve years ago)
btw Dylan said he wished he'd written "Doin' The Things That We Want To."
Lou Reed appeared at the Bob Dylan 30th Anniversary Celebration Concert at Madison Square Garden, October 16, 1992. Although "Tangled Up In Blue" was allegedly considered, Reed covered the relatively obscure "Foot Of Pride", a 1983 song finally released in 1991. It was widely praised as one of the highlights of the evening.
"I chose 'Foot Of Pride' because I just got back from an eight-month tour. Once a day I would listen to it and just fall down laughing. I always go out and get the latest Dylan album. Bob Dylan can turn a phrase, man. Like the album Down In The Groove, his choice of songs. 'Going Ninety Miles an Hour Down A Dead End Street' - I'd give anything if I could have written that. . .
"That was as much fun as I could ever have, as much fun as anyone could legally have."
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:56 (twelve years ago)
yeah, lou's foot of pride is great. gives me chills. they should have done a duet at some point! ah, well.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 02:07 (twelve years ago)
punk magazine #1 interview w/ lou reed - worth hunting around for a copy of? i was surprised it wasn't easily locatable online
― Mordy , Tuesday, 29 October 2013 02:07 (twelve years ago)
they were only a year apart age-wise. dylan a year older.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 02:10 (twelve years ago)
I was on that Tower autograph line too, Redd.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 02:54 (twelve years ago)
Did you go to the Film Forum later? Was that when it was still on Watts Street?
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 02:59 (twelve years ago)
the byron coley obit is pretty good
― flopson, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 03:04 (twelve years ago)
heh i don't know, but it was. I got Iggy and the Ramones too, prob also at Tower. xp
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 03:04 (twelve years ago)
that tatters clip is a+ thanks scott
― everything on layaway (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 03:15 (twelve years ago)
This story is great: https://www.facebook.com/coveredwithstars/posts/10201200272501581
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 04:04 (twelve years ago)
https://twitter.com/ValEKilmer/status/395030630586523648
― goole, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 04:24 (twelve years ago)
late to the pile-on but Alfred that obit was fuckin lovely
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 04:59 (twelve years ago)
If you have 75 minutes to spare...Lou Reed - American Masters bio/doc:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjPuF-CYuic
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 06:07 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awKdDIw504E
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 09:51 (twelve years ago)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl
thanks!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 11:43 (twelve years ago)
By a "pointless" reunion tour, you obv meant bcz the VU didn't play New York.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 12:09 (twelve years ago)
or Hialeah.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 12:12 (twelve years ago)
I always thought Lou thought Dylan was the bee's knees like everyone else in the 60's. "What Goes On" in particular struck me as very Dylan-like. "Baby be good, do what you should" just imagine Bob Dylan singing that.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:10 (twelve years ago)
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, October 29, 2013 8:09 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I can't find the exact quote, but I seem to remember the only thing Cale and Reed agreed on for the US leg of the tour (which was obviously cancelled when they fell out again) was that they wouldn't play New York. Reed said something like, "Fuck that place; they didn't want us then, so they don't get to see us now."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:35 (twelve years ago)
Hey Lou, I wanna boogie wit choo, I wanna boogie wit choooaaooowwww
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:38 (twelve years ago)
Baby be goooooodDo watcha shouuuuuld
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:39 (twelve years ago)
Well, at least they played in Kansas, that time..
(actually, srsly, Why is Max's called "Kansas City")
― Mark G, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:46 (twelve years ago)
According to http://theboweryboys.blogspot.com/2009/03/maxs-kansas-city-new-yorks-celebrity.html?m=1
The mysterious name purportedly comes from one of Ruskin's more famous clients from the Ninth Circle, poet Joel Oppenheimer . According to a documentary on Max's Kansas City, Oppenheimer heard Ruskin wanted to open a steakhouse and claims, "When I was a kid, all the steakhouses had Kansas City on the menu because the best steak was Kansas City-cut, so I thought it should be 'something Kansas City.'"
Although people have suspected the 'Max' comes from fellow poet Max Finstein, Oppenheimer claims a more logical origin. "Wouldn't you eat at a place called Max's? I said, 'Mickey, believe me, it's Max's Kansas City.' Two days later, he called back again and said, 'I don't know why, but I mentioned the name to some people, and they all loved it.'"
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:52 (twelve years ago)
Great promo photo of Lou rocking the back-to-front trousers look, a look that sadly never caught on afaik.
https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q73/s480x480/1236804_10151878793040953_858584813_n.jpg
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:53 (twelve years ago)
http://s2.dmcdn.net/e0SE/160x120-0CT.jpg
― pplains, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 14:04 (twelve years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/1ZzIx3X.jpg
http://www.maggiesfarm.it/talking156d.jpg
I wore back-to-front trousers one day in 1980. There were witnesses.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 14:11 (twelve years ago)
Reed said something like, "Fuck that place; they didn't want us then, so they don't get to see us now."
Too bad the pricks didn't know half the haters had died in the interim. Still I would've traveled to see em, maybe.
I don't understand the whole "asshole or not" thing when a star dies. I'm a big fan of many jerks, and a friend of mine has been in two of the worst movies I've ever seen.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 14:20 (twelve years ago)
my friend matt krefting is THE number one lou fan i know and this is really good and sweet:
http://kreftingmoondawn.wordpress.com/2013/10/29/how-do-you-think-it-feels-and-when-do-you-think-it-stops/
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 14:33 (twelve years ago)
That Krefting-piece is beautiful. The Letterman-performance he mentions was incredible!
― Mule, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 15:27 (twelve years ago)
yeah, i esp enjoyed the pizza place coda. never read so many obits for the same person.
― ogmor, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 15:28 (twelve years ago)
from the electrical audio boards:
"In the mid- and late-Nineties, my wife worked at a place owned by a guy named Tony. Tony is a famous artist, and is/was good friends with Lou Reed (as well as a wide variety of other personalities). Aside from being his master printer, my wife's responsibilities included answering the phone when Tony wasn't around. She was always terrified that it might be Lou Reed calling, as even Tony would say that Lou was a difficult person and hard to talk to.
So the phone rings and my wife answers. Long pause. "Is Tony there?"
"Sorry, he's not here. Can I take a message for him?"
Long pause.
"Yeah. This is Lou. Say, I just got my wife these doves. I dunno what to feed these fucking things. Does Tony know what I'm supposed to feed these fucking doves?"
"Hi Lou, I don't know, I'll ask Tony to call you when he gets in."
"Do you think they want some steak? I've got some meat. I'll see if they want some meat. Have Tony call me."
Lou bought Laurie some doves and then fed them meat.
Resquiat, sir."
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 16:59 (twelve years ago)
I wanna talk to that Reed, man, he threw a dove at his Laurie.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 17:13 (twelve years ago)
Herbie Flowers on composing the "wild side" bass line:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBXUP5GqYJs
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 17:41 (twelve years ago)
^ blew my mind. I always assumed it was two overdubbed acoustic basses, not an acoustic and a Fender Jazz.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:08 (twelve years ago)
thats great.
― will.i.an (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:10 (twelve years ago)
I wonder what Herbie Flowers makes of Can I Kick It
― will.i.an (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:12 (twelve years ago)
MTV staged/taped for later airing a series of concert shows in '84-85 called "Rock Influences," and Reed headlined the show I saw on the New Sensations tour. NYC theme; openers included Jim Carroll, and Run-D.M.C., who got booed off the stage in about 10 minutes. (Passaic NJ, def not by the ppl who lived there)
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:44 (twelve years ago)
Lou Bega insists that Lou Reed died, not Lou Bega
― a fifth of misty beethoven (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 01:45 (twelve years ago)
i do think there's a huge swath of people who think of lou reed as some guy who had one memorable ditty (walk on the wild side) once upon a time, like he was david essex or something.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 01:55 (twelve years ago)
listening to new york, remembering that WXRT played the shit out of this, deep cuts included, not just when it came out but for a few years after. in 93 I had a English professor who insisted upon playing songs from this and discussing them like poetry and the experience was so embarrassing that I never thought I'd come back to the album. it's not bad really.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 01:57 (twelve years ago)
there's this whole thing about lou being a prick to journalists but if you read his Invisible Jukebox in the wire he comes across as like this affable excitable nerd "omg this miles record!!" and it made me lose all sympathy for any interviewer that he ever treated like shit cause like, all he wanted to do was talk about records! And surely this was plain! and if you can't do that, you don't deserve the job.
― Jesus (wins), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:05 (twelve years ago)
yeah, he only got pissed off when people would ask questions about his public image, or how he felt about how certain of records were "perceived" by different sorts of audiences, etc. after forty-odd years journalists should have gotten the gist.
― (emphasis Treeship's) (Treeship), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:07 (twelve years ago)
Also bristled at questions about his personal life. Presumably because he was smart enough to know that shit didnt matter.
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:10 (twelve years ago)
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:11 (twelve years ago)
heh in the UK we used to have this carcrash called "the culture show" and I remember the host flirting w reed and basically asking tough questions like "why are you so great" and "why do your toes taste so nice" and at the end of the interview lou said "just so you know, there is now one english journalist I like". The scoundrel!
― Jesus (wins), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:11 (twelve years ago)
From earlier this year, and worth noting:
http://dangerousminds.net/comments/rachel_lou_reeds_transsexual_muse
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:11 (twelve years ago)
but Redd, we're in New York.
I was just about to ask why is Rachel such a big unknown this far on.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:13 (twelve years ago)
thanks for that Ned
― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:15 (twelve years ago)
"why do your toes taste so nice"
pretty sure Lou would have answered this
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:19 (twelve years ago)
At least I knew the name Rachel if not much else but Bettye Kronstadt I never heard about at all until I read the Luc Sante thing.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:19 (twelve years ago)
xp I'm paraphrasing I guess
― Jesus (wins), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:21 (twelve years ago)
Thread reminds me that I once played in band with fourth-rate Lou Reed imitator and when he gave me a tape to learn tunes off it was recorded over cassette version of Michael Franks album with "Popsicle Toes."
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:23 (twelve years ago)
bum bum bum popsicle toesbum bum bum popsicle toes
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:31 (twelve years ago)
I guess result of my poll was that older people at the very least knew the big songs off Loaded and the first Velvet albums as well as some of the solo stuff whereas the discerning youth of today know all the Velvet Underground albums as well as some Factory anecdotes and other biographical material. But yeah, after all it is New York City which is the place where.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:32 (twelve years ago)
Reed answered questions about his appearance in the commercial, telling the students that Honda was supporting him more then he was supporting the brand, and Bob Dylan, saying that everyone was lucky to be alive on earth with Dylan, among others, recalled Gass.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:44 (twelve years ago)
my straw poll, first Velvets album
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 03:29 (twelve years ago)
I knew Walk on the Wild Side and that was about it, and then in college I read a book that mentioned the song Venus in Furs, so I went out and found a used copy of Velvet Underground & Nico, my first Lou/Velvets purchase. And then I read the Venus in Furs book and came to the realization that I would have been more content just knowing the song but it was an educational excursion. And I fell in love with Nico for a good while as a result so I owe Lou quite a lot.
Anyone dip into his photography at all? I have his New York book of photos, I dig it.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 04:09 (twelve years ago)
The final interview, apparently: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/oct/29/lou-reed-last-interview
― hatcat marnell (suzy), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 05:40 (twelve years ago)
This is me, pretty much. I've never cared for classic rock or punk rock, so I couldn't really name any other song by the dude than "Walk on the Wild Side" (which I prefer as the Finnish-language cover version done by the great jazz/pop singer Lasse Mårtenson) and "Perfect Day" (which I wouldn't know if it wasn't for Trainspotting). I'm not trying to be willfully ignorant, and I recognize that a lot of people were influenced by Reed, but IMO in the year 2013 his legacy is so far in the past, and/or heard in such marginal genres, that even someone quite knowledgable in pop music might not know him for anything else than those two hits, unless he was specifically into the specific subgenres of rock where he might still be valued highly.
That said, I've nothing against the dude, just wanted to point out that people who know him for only one or two tunes aren't necessarily ignorant. RIP.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 08:04 (twelve years ago)
p
― buzza, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 08:06 (twelve years ago)
wow tell us more about not liking rock music tuomas never heard that before what a fascinating posting style keep upthe good work
― buzza, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 08:08 (twelve years ago)
Haha, from that interview story:
"Don't mention David Bowie's album," his publicist warned, half-jokingly, as the interviewer before me left. "The last guy who did that got the wrong side of Lou."
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 11:59 (twelve years ago)
When I was kid all I knew about Lou Reed was this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2JXy1Z9ovs
― kirti madam you're not a gag mrs thatcher eighty advantage and myspace (soref), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 12:06 (twelve years ago)
Does Perfect Day ever get performed on X Factor or similar shows?
― kirti madam you're not a gag mrs thatcher eighty advantage and myspace (soref), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 12:09 (twelve years ago)
Tuomas only mourns true musical visionaries and legends:
Scatman John: C/D?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 12:16 (twelve years ago)
well lotsa ppl just like horrible contemporary pop
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 12:20 (twelve years ago)
I had no idea the amount you mourn a musician should be proportionate to his historical importance. It's sad that both of them died, but Scatman John's dead made me sadder than Lou Reed's, because his music meant more to me personally, and because he was only in his 50s when he died.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 12:36 (twelve years ago)
Thread taking inevitable turn here
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 12:43 (twelve years ago)
― buzza, Wednesday, October 30, 2013 4:08 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 13:14 (twelve years ago)
the Fresh Air retrospective began with Gross saying that she once tried to interview Reed, but he walked off after several minutes, annoyed by her questions.
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 13:17 (twelve years ago)
"Don't mention INSERT_RANDOM_TOPIC_HERE," his publicist warned, half-jokingly, as the interviewer before me left. "The last guy who did that got the wrong side of Lou."
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 13:23 (twelve years ago)
Also, feel like Lou might have been won over by Tuomas's charming naivetee- he wouldn't know enough to ask the kind of questions that bug Lou. They could have bonded over free jazz.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 13:25 (twelve years ago)
It's not all that charming to continually trumpet one's well-manicured ignorance as a kind of virtue
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 13:29 (twelve years ago)
Also, feel like Lou might have been won over by Tuomas's charming naivetee-
Tuomas, a Doug Yule for the new millennium
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 13:30 (twelve years ago)
first velvets album was the whole peel slowly and see boxset. got it from the BMG music club for something like 15$.
after that, first lou album was a compilation, then set the twilight reeling (both used).
after that, a taped c90 with transformer and berlin. i used to play the shit out of that.
then i was given a collection of classic records by someone who outgrew their record player including MMM.
after that, pretty much everything else.
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 13:48 (twelve years ago)
How are you all ignoring the elephant that just got released into the room?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC3108hKNZA
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 13:52 (twelve years ago)
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, October 29, 2013 9:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ugh, fucking XRT drove "Busload Of Faith" into the fucking ground so much so that I grew to despise that song. It's pretty much the only reason I haven't revisited that record since '89.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 13:56 (twelve years ago)
first velvets album was the whole peel slowly and see boxset.
I remember buying this and one of the discs was just a bunch of 90s R&B slow jams, though the label said VU. I took it back to the store and got this incredulous clerk who refused to believe me and claimed that it was an outtakes disc so the music was naturally going to sound different from the main albums, you dummy.
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:15 (twelve years ago)
the Cale-Reed demos on the first disc are horrors.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:18 (twelve years ago)
but the VU stuff ("I Can't Stand It," "One of these Days") has never sounded better.
Gross saying that she once tried to interview Reed, but he walked off after several minutes, annoyed by her questions.
*stands and applauds* Weekend Edition also played a clip of him sassing Boring Bob Edwards. "Well, I suppose I could write a song about this CHAIR, that'd be interesting..."
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:21 (twelve years ago)
good lookin out pp
― goole, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:22 (twelve years ago)
I wish they had played the few minutes Terry Gross got with Lou. It's always a treat to hear her fall into incoherence when someone isn't entirely pleasant.
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:26 (twelve years ago)
"fall into"?
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:28 (twelve years ago)
Drummer/Producer Fred Maher's email to Bob Leftsetz re working with Lou
Subject: RE: Lou Reed
Lou Reed.
Bob, I co-Produced and played drums on Lou's "New York". I did some half assed engineering too. I met Lou (Prior to "New York") through Bob Quine. I played drums on a couple of his albums, Legendary Hearts & New Sensations,did a bit or touring with him and, then I went off to be in a POP Band called Scritti Politti.
After the 18 month rush of Scritti Politti I came back home to NYC and Lou called me to ask if I would play drums on his next record that would become "New York". I told him that I would be happy to. I was all of 23 or 24 at that time and was looking to become a record producer. I never thought I would end up Producing "New York" with Lou. It was going to be another gig with someone I knew and felt comfortable with. He liked my playing because it was simple. I was NOT a prodigy. I was just a guy with a decent sense of what was needed from a drummer.
So, Lou starts asking me (the young guy) "Who should I get to produce thisrecord?" I blurted out the usual suspects of that that era, Bob Clearmountain, Scott Litt and so on but, no one was interested. NO ONE. The thing that is important here is that Lou had just been signed by Seymour Stein to SIRE / Warner Bros. And he essentially had, as usual in those days of WB, total artisticcontrol!
After several weeks of Lou searching for someone to produce, I (brass balled twenty something year old) suggested that I produce the record. He said "What the fuck do you know about recording guitars?... All you've done is "synth pop" crap. My response was "Lou, book ONE day in a studio and let's see what happens"
He did, and that ONE day at the legendary Media Sound on 57th street changed everything. I was so cocky, I didn't even hire an engineer... I would just do it myself! Long story short, we recorded and mixed the opening track of New York, "Romeo Had Juliette" in that single day.
He called me the next morning and said "I sound like Lou Reed again for thefirst time in years... Let's do this". What we did that day ("Romeo Had Juliette") IS the first cut on "New York". He did not want to change a single thing about it. No remix, no overdubs, nothing.
Although I was a child and fan of technology, I knew that this record would best be served by using NO modern appliances. No drum machines, no automation assisted mixing, nothing. My main inspiration was the recently release Leonard Cohen record, "I'm Your Man". It was my first time hearing ANY Leonard Cohen but, what struck me was the level of the vocal. It was LOUD. soaring above the music. Yes, the underpinning "score" of "I'm You Man" was synthetic but, The song, The Lyrics were the thing.
Having been "just the young drummer" on two previous Lou records, I suffered through and producers and engineers trying to get Lou to "sing". Observing the relentless desire of those producers and engineers to DELIVER a new Lou Reed hit. Lou was not a singer per se. He was a Pre-Punk Punk. Spoken, half sung words and "sort of" melodies were his strength. Raw, in your face story telling was the conceptual lynch pin of New York.
I suggested that we take it one step further and have no piano, organ or any other kind of keyboards on the record. I'm not sure how long it was from his initially contacting me to play on "his next record" to actually starting in the studio but, the whole thing took Six weeks. The funny thing about that time was that while we were recording New York, I was having my first major radio and sales success with a record I had produced a year earlier, Information Society. So, from that moment on, my fate was sealed. I would never be "That Producer" with that "Go To" Sound. I didn't get many gigs from the "Big Time" Success of Information Society but, I did get lots of work and respect from Lou's New York.Lou Believed in me. Lou gave me one of the biggest breaks I ever had and will always be grateful.
Rest in peace Lou.
Cheers - Fred Maher
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:34 (twelve years ago)
aw, I had no idea Maher was that young back then!
― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:38 (twelve years ago)
My point was that if you aren't well-versed in alternative rock canon, and/or if you weren't alive in the 70s, it's quite likely you know Lou Reed only as the guy who did "Walk on the Wild Side" and "Perfect Day", the only lasting hits he's had. Just because ILX is full of people who know their canon from A to Z doesn't mean that people who aren't that familiar with that canon are guilty of ignorance. It's not like he's Mick Jagger or Paul McCartney, an artist who's legacy is commonly known even among people who'd never listened to his records.
Like, if Herbie Hancock (one of my favourite musicians) died today, I would be immensely sad, but I wouldn't expect some random person who's not into jazz to say anything more than "Oh, wasn't he that guy who had that tune with scratching and robot arms in the video?".
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:41 (twelve years ago)
doesn't mean that people who aren't that familiar with that canon are guilty of ignorance
This is the definition of ignorance. Ignorance just means not knowing about something. So if you don't know the canon, then you are ignorant of it.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:44 (twelve years ago)
Well yeah, but I meant ignorant in the general sense, not ignorant of a particular canon. If someone doesn't know who Barack Obama is, I'd call him ignorant. If he doesn't know who Lou Reed is, I wouldn't (especially if he's in his 30s or younger).
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:46 (twelve years ago)
in the year 2013 his legacy is so far in the past, and/or heard in such marginal genres, that even someone quite knowledgeable in pop music might not know him for anything else than those two hits, unless he was specifically into the specific subgenres of rock where he might still be valued highly.
you weren't talking about "random people" here, but "knowledgeable" pop music fans. Ignorance is not bad, since there will always be stuff you haven't heard, but someone who has no familiarity with the Velvet Underground is almost by definition not a knowledgeable pop music fan.
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:48 (twelve years ago)
I'm having lunch with my 64-year-old dad today. He was 19 in 1968, big Beatles fan, lived in Memphis, could name every No. 1 song of the Nixon Administration... and I don't know if he could name one Velvet Underground song.
He likely knows about the Velvet Underground, about Andy Warhol, but does he know "What Goes On" off the top of his head? I don't think so, but I'll find out.
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:49 (twelve years ago)
Hi,
This thread is on ILE.
thx.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:49 (twelve years ago)
We are lucky to have pplains' dad, the ultimate measure of average musical knowledge, as a resource.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:51 (twelve years ago)
He will happily tell anyone about the time Elvis took his sister to ride the ferris wheel at Libertyland.
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:54 (twelve years ago)
"But wait, Elvis didn't have a sister," you say...
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:55 (twelve years ago)
I know it's kind of pointless to argue with you, Tuomas, but wouldn't you think people would at least know about Herbie Hancock's association with Miles Davis and some of his better known tunes such as "Watermelon Man," "Cantaloupe Island" and "Maiden Voyage" as well as the albums they might have been on?
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:55 (twelve years ago)
Yeah. I consider myself to be a big pop music fan, and I've learned that VU were an important band by reading some books and hearing people talk about them, but all I know about them beyond that is that one of their album covers was designed by Andy Warhol, and that they have a song called "Heroin".
Velvet Underground had no hit singles or albums, Lou Reed had one or two. So it shouldn't be surprising if a pop (as in "popular") music fan only know those records and nothing else.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:56 (twelve years ago)
Elvis story just made this whole derail worth it.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:56 (twelve years ago)
This is like what happens if you try to request a VU song from a Classic Rock station: "we only play songs that hit the top 40"
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:59 (twelve years ago)
there is a similar topical thread on ILM, Mark G, except I was hoping this one would be more about Lou the icon, as I started it 6 years ago to join the fun of joke obit threads about icons like Jennifer Aniston and Fidel Castro.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:59 (twelve years ago)
trainspotting made most people know who he was, and the re-release of that awful cover of "perfect day", at least from a european perspective. i would consider someone p ignorant if they didn't know who he was on the back of that, even.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:03 (twelve years ago)
I mean, I know you all know how much I love playing Capt Sav-a-Tuomas here, but yeah, President Keyes hits it. I spent so much time answering phone calls at the classic rock station, taking requests from people who wanted to hear "Baby, Take a Walk on the Wild Side" by David Bowie. Lou Reed was to many some sort of David Essex, one-hit wonder.
If you think that's sad, then you'll really not want to know how many songs the average classic rock radio listener could name by T. Rex.
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:03 (twelve years ago)
Hi, dr.
My point was that people on this thread should not assume (or insist) musical knowledge on any contrib, as this is not ILm here.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:07 (twelve years ago)
Well yeah, I'm sure most European people who were aware of pop music in the 90s would know the song, but not necessarily anything else about the guy. As Pplains says, they might just think he was an old one-hit wonder who got to remake that one hit with the UK stars of the 90s.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:08 (twelve years ago)
And it is those people that the DM are telling, that he was a big drug user who encouraged everyone else to do likewise, and that Sid Vicious died because of him.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:09 (twelve years ago)
Sid Vicious the wrestler?
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:10 (twelve years ago)
which has contributed more to the world: lou reed or finland?
― iatee, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:11 (twelve years ago)
xpost thread's in ILE so we should only talk about Reed's acting and political views here
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:11 (twelve years ago)
Feel like this example has finally enabled me to understand in detail what is so annoying about this shtick of Tuomas's but I can't type it into my phone right now.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:18 (twelve years ago)
/fermats_last_theorem
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:19 (twelve years ago)
best film appearances:
1) dick producer in One-Trick Pony2) those monologues in Blue in the Face3) keeping me briefly awake in Faraway So Close!
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:22 (twelve years ago)
Fred Maher, who was in Scritti Politti, makers of "synth pop crap."
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:23 (twelve years ago)
tuomas otm except, admittedly, for the 'knowledgeable pop fan' thing
― drugs/lies: poll (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:26 (twelve years ago)
I mean maybe if it was still the early eighties and you still had to go to Bleecker Bob's to get your VU or you were an Onion Area man stuck in the 80s, but all the intervening decades of Tower and Virgin megastores, deluxe box sets reissues, MTV, cable television, streaming services, PBS documentaries, Trainspotting, Doors Movie cameo, Wes Anderson movies, entire generations of bands citing them as an influence, generation that would know who he was all grown up and running things, the Czech's naming a revolution after them, the Israeli's naming a spider after him. My dad, like PPs, wouldn't know who he was, but he wouldn't be able to name a Beatles tune either. Not a good sample set.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:27 (twelve years ago)
Forgot to mention shelf full of books like Please Kill Me, From Velvets to Voidoids, Uptight, recent coffee table books devoted specifically to the VU.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:30 (twelve years ago)
I never know how to gauge these things, who's gonna who what about whom. But I was completely stunned and shocked to hear, along with the usual "Walk On The Wild Side," clips of "Heroin" and Metal Machine Music on the NBC News piece on Reed the other night. I don't know if there's someone at NBC News who's a huge Reed/Velvets fan, or if it was an accurate reflection of what most people know about Reed.
I mean, jeez, even our local newscasts (upstate NY) did stories about Reed's passing that highlighted the Velvets.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:34 (twelve years ago)
On the other hand, I'm a total moron and I know lots of stuff about VU/Lou Reed.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:36 (twelve years ago)
and here's some less important stuff about Lou
More email to Bob Lefsetz:
tour manager Bert Holman says in part:
Lou and I bonded on tour late night playing pinball in hotel children's game rooms to the point that I carried $50 in quarters where ever we went. I was mandated to book hotels that had pinball machines. He was a master of the slanted table and each players turn could take 10 or 15 minutes while the other remained a spectator and we chatted about life.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:37 (twelve years ago)
Czech's naming a revolution after them, the Israeli's I knew in my phone-posting fury I would be drawn into making some egregious typographical error.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:41 (twelve years ago)
"Egregious," for those without the benefit of a Long Island education, means...
Most people in my work only know "Walk on the Wild Side" and possibly "Perfect Day". One girl had never heard of Lou Reed (she is 22 and from Bulgaria though).
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:47 (twelve years ago)
I'm pretty sure the Czech revolution was actually named after the house music producer Green Velvet. It was time for the perculator!
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:47 (twelve years ago)
this is beyond stupid. if anything, particularly in America under-30s might recognize Lou/Velvets from the copious use in films (which was def the case with my top-40 loving teenage niece, who knew the Velvets' songs from the fucking Juno soundtrack)
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:49 (twelve years ago)
"Heroin" was in that terrible Denzel drunk pilot movie
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:50 (twelve years ago)
Andy's Czech
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:50 (twelve years ago)
do not feed the Tuomas
― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:52 (twelve years ago)
lol @ pplains
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:59 (twelve years ago)
Praguey Notion
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 16:02 (twelve years ago)
"we're gonna Havel a real good time together..."
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 16:10 (twelve years ago)
this thread is about a great man not some tuomas faux-naif passive aggressive trolling bullshit
shut the fuck up tuomas to to threads about shit you do care about and talk about that
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 16:11 (twelve years ago)
heh in the UK we used to have this carcrash called "the culture show" and I remember the host flirting w reed and basically asking tough questions like "why are you so great" and "why do your toes taste so nice" and at the end of the interview lou said "just so you know, there is now one english journalist I like". The scoundrel!― Jesus (wins), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:11 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Jesus (wins), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:11 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2d8t6_lou-reed-berlin-interview-2007_music
Laverne's questions are fairly innocuous but she does the right thing in asking him about the music which always seems to be the one thing he's happy to engage in.
― grown-arsed man (onimo), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 16:11 (twelve years ago)
Interesting!http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/10/29/how-many-albums-did-lou-reed-and-the-velvet-underground-really-sell/
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 16:15 (twelve years ago)
more like poo peed
― ienjoyhotdogs, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 16:19 (twelve years ago)
http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/stop-the-presses/lou-reed-most-cited-influence-rock-n-roll-234749432.html
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 16:56 (twelve years ago)
is there anyone Bono hasn't been influenced by?
― Number None, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 17:25 (twelve years ago)
Tuomas.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 17:26 (twelve years ago)
loool
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 17:28 (twelve years ago)
from that Wall Street Journal blog
Since then, “The Velvet Underground & Nico” has sold 558,000 copies, more than any of the band’s other releases.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 17:34 (twelve years ago)
that's not really a surprise, "Heroin" is far and away their most notorious (and probably well-known, again thanks to film) song
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 17:38 (twelve years ago)
man Oh! Sweet Nuthin's been used a lot too:
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0892754/filmoyear
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 17:41 (twelve years ago)
Banana album had sold 400,000 by the time of Rolling Stone's 20th anniv. issue in '87, I remember. ("Trout Mask Replica" 50,000; "Modern Lovers" all of 5000.)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 17:52 (twelve years ago)
I think VU & Nico had even outsold Music From Big Pink by that point, if I remember my RS 20th anniv. numbers correctly...also, Astral Weeks was in the high four-digits.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 18:00 (twelve years ago)
ME: So, what do you think about Lou Reed?
DAD: You know, I liked that song when it came out even though it was "different." It was his big hit, but you probably know this, he was the "cult" guy. Had a whole other career.
ME: Did you ever listen... to the band he was in?
DAD: The, what, the Hot Pepper?
ME: Velvet Underground.
DAD: "Hot Pepper?" Yeah, the Velvet Underground. No, I never listened to them. Were they played on Dr. Demento or something?
ME: Well, maybe an FM station at 3 in the morning.
DAD: I never heard anything else of his besides that one song, but everybody says he influenced a lot of people. How many records did he make?
ME: I dunno, a dozen? 20?
DAD: Really? That many? I know all his stuff was about the shady side of New York. Kind of his thing, right?
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 18:52 (twelve years ago)
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/metrics-emily-haines-pays-tribute-to-lou-reeds-integrity-and-humor-20131028
this is just... i cant...
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 18:55 (twelve years ago)
ME: Well, yeah.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 18:56 (twelve years ago)
haha
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 18:56 (twelve years ago)
My girlfriend, who's younger than me, was surprised to learn that there was ever a time when VU wasn't super-famous. The way she learned the '60s as a budding 1990s hipster, England had the Beatles and Stones, and America had the Velvet Underground.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:02 (twelve years ago)
does she think the Beach Boys were french or something
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:04 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, I don't know. Those are the three bands she mentioned as being on the same level, in her sense of the era. (I'd put the Beach Boys down on the next rung too, tbh.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:06 (twelve years ago)
Michel L'amour
― buzza, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:06 (twelve years ago)
But anyway my point is that it's not surprising even the mainstream obits talk about the Velvets -- they've been successfully retroactively inserted into the timeline as a major force, even if most people still haven't heard them.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:08 (twelve years ago)
Also see: the band the Box Tops guy formed in the 70s.
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:13 (twelve years ago)
eh I dunno if Big Star is *quite* on that level. I mean CNN didn't cover Chilton's death
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:14 (twelve years ago)
Don't think Big Star nearly as famous. No Andy Warhol connection for one. Bet a lot of people who watch That 70s Show don't even know where the song came from.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:15 (twelve years ago)
RIP heaven needed
http://img1.etsystatic.com/030/0/6276524/il_570xN.518555379_exud.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:17 (twelve years ago)
re dadsMy parents did not have a Velvet Underground album but my dad went to see them in Cleveland and said it was the "worst concert [he] he ever seen" and he walked out and then complained about it for the next 45 years. He hasn't mentioned it recently, but I'm sure I could get him going on how terrible it was just by mentioning Lou Reed.
― La Lechera, Monday, January 30, 2012 10:01 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark
Did your parents have a Velvet Underground album?
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:17 (twelve years ago)
Naw, I don't mean to say Big Star's as well-known as Velvet Underground. I do mean that they're a band most people have heard of, rather than have actually heard.
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:18 (twelve years ago)
http://img1.etsystatic.com/030/0/6276524/il_570xN.518555379_exud.jpgPoor Ernie HudsonIggy Pop.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:19 (twelve years ago)
I don't think that's true pp
― iatee, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:19 (twelve years ago)
like if you're the type of person who's heard of big star you're probably the type of person who's listened to big star
― iatee, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:20 (twelve years ago)
VU crept in at the edges of my awareness circa 1973 via thumbing through other people's record collections in college and hearing Heroin played on FM, back when AM ruled the airwaves and FM was an obscure backwater that drew 1/20th the audience of AM.
― Aimless, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:22 (twelve years ago)
By the eighties people who liked music assumed you would have heard and liked the VU
By the nineties the VU were canonized. That's when I started seeing people actually owning their albums or their stuff on sale at Best Buy or Camelot.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:24 (twelve years ago)
oh fine if you wanna bring facts into it
I guess I retconned in the flirting based on lou's final remark but the qs are total "plz talk for ten minutes about how you are a neglected genius, starting... NOW" fluffing (which is SOP for UK chat shows granted but for that to get a "now THIS english journalist is one of the good eggs" response is still pretty lolsome)
― Jesus (wins), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:26 (twelve years ago)
Not sure what the original point about Big Star was, but at least since the late 80s Lou was playing places like Radio City Music Hall, whilst Alex Chilton could be found at Tramps and Coney Island High.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:28 (twelve years ago)
I do like his marked preference for female music journalists, though. xp
― hatcat marnell (suzy), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:29 (twelve years ago)
Who topped, him or Bowie?
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:30 (twelve years ago)
> ME: I dunno, a dozen? 20?
i was browsing amazon the other week and noticed he had *4* of those cheap 5-album cd boxes available, the ones with the facsimile cardboard covers. all going for about £13
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Original-Album-Classics-Lou-Reed/dp/B0018BF1J0/ref=sr_1_1
― koogs, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:38 (twelve years ago)
Big Star has not been parodied in a Scooby Doo episode. game-set-match for Velvets imho
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:57 (twelve years ago)
omg, just read description of that and other episodes. Awesome.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:02 (twelve years ago)
LL's dad story is hilarious
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:05 (twelve years ago)
Scooby Doo episode is linked to one of the Velvets threads somewhere
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:06 (twelve years ago)
http://i.imgur.com/wAVzbnG.jpg
― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:08 (twelve years ago)
All valid points.
Again, not trying to say Big Star is as well-known as VU. Hell, even though the guy had a No. 1 song, I'd maybe wager that more people know who Lou Reed is than Alex Chilton.
My point may have made more sense before the internet. I used to buy these picture books ranking the Top 100 albums of all time, where Sgt. Pepper would always be No. 1. Blonde on Blonde would always be No. 2. And in the Top 10, you'd eventually see that Warhol banana with a summary of how no one heard this record, but they all become nuclear physicists or whatever. How Nico's voice and John Cale's viola and Lou Reed's guitar and songwriting was this mysterious force that shaped rock and roll in more ways than anyone could imagine or even be aware of. Of course though, I had never heard any of this music. My parents didn't have any VU albums. Magic 105 didn't play the Velvet Underground. MTV didn't have it. It wasn't until I was 17 or so that I finally found a friend who had one of the records.
And the same goes for Big Star. Somewhere in the higher numbers of the list, there'd be the Eggleston photo of the ceiling fan. And the summary would say something like "Without this band, there'd be no R.E.M." And I wonder how in the world the deep-throated "Letter" guy inspired Michael Stipe.
Obviously, if I was reading one of those lists today, I'd hit up YouTube, or if they were really obscure, dailymotion, and find a damn tune to hear. But there are still many, many rock fans aware of the canon who still haven't done so. The people who know Walk on the Wild Side and nothing else. The people who snap their fingers to That 70s Show theme, not knowing it was written by a guy who also sang something called "Holocaust". They've heard of these bands, but asking them to name a song might be a little much.
I know, from the comfy confines of ILX, it sounds impossible. But man, 3.5 million people bought the last Eagles record released five years ago. Sincere rock music fans used to call my station and ask for crazy shit like "For All That It's Worth" by Buffalo Springsteen. Even if it's just because there's still a grocery store chain down here called Big Star and people know some band took their name from it, I'd say there are plenty of people aware of what Big Star was without having heard a song.
But no, I agree. There are far more people who know about Velvet Underground.
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:13 (twelve years ago)
Gosh, you can hardly see John Kale back there behind his keyboards.
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:14 (twelve years ago)
My dad remains incensed that he was subjected to such "pointless noise". From the day he told me that, I've realized that this is a fundamental difference between us -- I like chaotic noisy things, he does not. He will never see my side, and I will never change my mind.
But that brings me to my other point about the aftermath of LR's death -- it feels like a big family reunion prompted by a funeral where the thing we all have in common is the considerable legacy of the VU. I'm enjoying asking my friends about what effect his death has had on them.
For me, I've somehow tapped into long-buried teenage feelings and energy that I haven't felt in ages. That and being made extremely aware that I am one of those people whose entire life was changed by this band. It's not unpleasant!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:16 (twelve years ago)
it feels weird to me to say a band "changed my life", I mean my life changes all the time... otoh the very first multi-part harmony I ever figured out how to sing (and record) was Femme Fatale, so
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:19 (twelve years ago)
But they really did change the course of my young life. In 1988-89 I hated everything and was super bored, and then my bff and I went to the library and got the best of VU (that's what they had, we were REM fans and wanted to hear the originals). We dressed up like beatniks and sang. Even though I had been reading about this band, once I heard them I realized that they weren't as far out or experimental as I thought they were. We were 13/14.
They came along at a pivotal time when I was ripe for liberating sounds and opened my world. That's life-changing.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:30 (twelve years ago)
I mean who cares, that's just my personal experience, but it's not unlike a lot of other people's experiences and those people are my people! I never had people before that.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:31 (twelve years ago)
sorry to get mushy-- that's just what listening to all the VU has done to my brain
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:40 (twelve years ago)
no worries, I get it, I was just speaking for me personally
I didn't really have anyone to share VU with (apart from my brother, I guess), it was like a foreign world to me. albeit one I found v engaging
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:42 (twelve years ago)
I feel like I have a good handle on how obscure VU and Reed are to the general public, but I'm still shocked that the best selling VU album only sold 500k!
― wk, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:45 (twelve years ago)
like if you look at their lastfm stats, VU has 1.6 million listeners, but the first album only has 482k listeners. Who are these million VU fans who don't listen to the first album!?
― wk, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:47 (twelve years ago)
Words and Music of Lou Reed listeners
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:47 (twelve years ago)
nope, only 11,000 of them
― wk, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:50 (twelve years ago)
my friends and i listened to them a lot. and my brother too, of course. we were all fans. and we all did a lot of drugs. but i don't know if it was the drug part we liked. it was just cool music. man, when that album came out with foggy notion on it? how cool was that!? more VU! they played that stuff soooooo much on the local college station. i always think of summer when i think of the velvet underground.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:50 (twelve years ago)
often "Foggy Notion" is my fave VU jam -- and makes me think they were a better band with Yule.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:53 (twelve years ago)
That (VU) was the first one I heard. To say it blew my 12-year-old mind is something of an understatement, but middle school was a pretty lonely place for a Velvets fan. Trying to pry my friends away from Huey Lewis records was a losing battle.
(I also heard the MC5 for the first time that same week. That was a good week.)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:54 (twelve years ago)
middle school is a lonely place for everyonei was never into drugs, i just liked the sound/groove and lyrics that weren't extra super stupid
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:59 (twelve years ago)
Is it wrong that I kind of want that Iggy Pop shirt?
I've always wondered about the album sales of acts like the VU, Big Star, Eno, Ramones and the like, massively influential cult acts who likely sold a pittance, assuming anyone was even keeping count. You'd think the sheer number of words written about each would pump up the bottom line a bit, but who knows. I was shocked when I learned it took the Sex Pistols album 25 years to go platinum in the US, given it's just, like, one record from one notorious band that sparked an honest to goodness before-and-after revolution. You'd think over the decades more than a million curious people might have picked it up.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 21:01 (twelve years ago)
I want the Iggy Pop shirt that just says "Rational" on it.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 21:08 (twelve years ago)
I'm sure I bought the OOP banana album during college from St Marks Sounds' used bin, probably for the princely sum of $10-12.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 21:16 (twelve years ago)
I got mine in the early days of ebay.
Think it was £50 or thereabouts. Reasonably intact banana.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 21:18 (twelve years ago)
I can't remember where I bought it, didn't seem as hard to find or expensive as the second and third albums. Banana not peelable though, just a picture, not a stick on.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 21:21 (twelve years ago)
cassette - Hannukah gift from my brother when I was 13. he gave me the third album too.
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 21:25 (twelve years ago)
When I got into them, I think the studio albums were all out of print, and all I could find on CD were those VU and Another VU comps which were expensive iirc, and the 2 separate discs of 1969 which were cheap, so 1969 Vol 1 was my first VU.
― wk, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 21:27 (twelve years ago)
http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/2013/10/30/quine.jpg
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 21:30 (twelve years ago)
fun fact -- the woman on the right in this photograph was involved in local politics where i grew up and is related to robert quine (aunt maybe? not his mom, but related) bonus: her name was jane
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6p23avsDm1rzge1ho1_1280.jpg
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 21:32 (twelve years ago)
Found my cassette in a bin of $5.99 tapes in early '85, just after they were rereleased. (Also bought Scorpions' "Lonesome Crow" from the same bin lol).
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 21:33 (twelve years ago)
lol La Lechera is that you on the left
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 21:33 (twelve years ago)
lol no, i was an infant!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 21:36 (twelve years ago)
sorry for excessive pics, that's me on the righthttp://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6p1xyQNSp1rzge1ho1_500.jpg
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 21:37 (twelve years ago)
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it's crazy, this is happening to me too. at first i was jaded 'who gives a shit' then i started reading all those pieces talking about stuff that i guess i take for granted as mattering. i'm not even that big into vu and have heard barely any solo lou reed. the whole zeitgeist prompted me to do a sappy declaration of love on the phone to my boyfriend on monday night, surely not very lou reed-esque, at least the blubbery way i ended up doing it.
― forbz (Matt P), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 21:45 (twelve years ago)
Nah Lou was corny you did right by him :-)
― Jesus (wins), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 21:51 (twelve years ago)
it needed more hip-shaking
― forbz (Matt P), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 21:53 (twelve years ago)
I've always wondered about the album sales of acts like the VU, Big Star, Eno, Ramones and the like, massively influential cult acts who likely sold a pittance, assuming anyone was even keeping count.
The thing about Big Star is that the first record was barely distributed, and Radio City, iirc, never even left the warehouse (aside from review copies). I don't know how their Ardent stuff would even be accounted for.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:00 (twelve years ago)
yeah, on sunday morning when I heard he'd died I started thinking of various lyrics of his that seemed fitting and it made me weirdly unexpectedly emotional. the more I thought about it, the more I realized that all of the lines that hit me the hardest were lines that related to who I am in ways that I could never really explain or admit. I'm not much of a lyrics guy or an emotional guy so it was surprising to me to realize how much his lyrics actually spoke to me and for me in a way nobody else ever did.xp
― wk, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:03 (twelve years ago)
Drella is a bit too real
― Jesus (wins), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:09 (twelve years ago)
I hate Lou, I really do
― Jesus (wins), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:10 (twelve years ago)
i actually wonder if folks born after the baby boom are more likely to know the VU's music than boomers (or at least folks born 1940s–1950s). of course, boomers are pretty damn likely to have heard of it, especially if they were into rock music at the time. but we're talking about albums that in their first years of release sold not-that-many copies.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:14 (twelve years ago)
oh yeah for sure!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:14 (twelve years ago)
unless you're David Fricke.
of course, I don't want to generalize about generations b/c my milieu is generally 20- and 30-something college grads who to differing degrees can be characterized as "intellectuals." so of course lou reed and the VU have a pretty high batting average among people I know.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:18 (twelve years ago)
my father (b. 1952) gave me his vinyl copy of VU & Nico. Contra Eno, he never formed a band.
― I like to think I have learnt a thing or two about music (Neil S), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:23 (twelve years ago)
Neil weighs in:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFaTN9V833o
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:44 (twelve years ago)
They should have let EC take a verse.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 23:14 (twelve years ago)
The hippie guy seems to be paying more respect to Doug Yule than Lou.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 23:19 (twelve years ago)
fans with bad tags
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 23:22 (twelve years ago)
Have any obits mentioned this forgotten track? I almost did in mine -- a throwaway on an '83 soundtrack, boasting a fabulous long solo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exr90v_FraA
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 23:33 (twelve years ago)
Lou at his sweetly autobiographical best
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 23:36 (twelve years ago)
a throwaway on an '83 soundtrack
I guess it's a throwaway in the sense that it isn't on a record, but Lou is so central to that movie.
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 23:41 (twelve years ago)
My memory was that was a kind of lightweight enjoyment music biz movie with that song coming at the end and kicking it up a notch. Was also a little surprised because I thought he might be singing the similarly titled tune by his old buddy we have already touched upon, Doc Pomus.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 31 October 2013 00:01 (twelve years ago)
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/oct/30/metallica-lars-ulrich-lou-reed-rocknroll-poetry
Really nice remembrance by Lars Ulrich
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 October 2013 01:37 (twelve years ago)
yeah i shall put Get Crazy as his #3 film performance
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 October 2013 01:53 (twelve years ago)
If they'd both been plugged in, it would've been a monumental feedback titan summit for the ages. As it was, a very sweet moment:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AgsCTz144g
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 31 October 2013 02:03 (twelve years ago)
Morbs, would you recommend One-Trick Pony the movie?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 October 2013 02:03 (twelve years ago)
I haven't seen it since '80 but yes.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 31 October 2013 02:13 (twelve years ago)
One Trick Pony is great
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 31 October 2013 02:19 (twelve years ago)
Not Bowie's finest hour:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeL5RcbpiM8
― Bailey (Collins) Lover (Eazy), Thursday, 31 October 2013 02:27 (twelve years ago)
You guys, please don't post that really cringeworthy Elvis Costello/Lou video...
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 31 October 2013 02:32 (twelve years ago)
I don't mind their "Queen Bitch" and WL-WH at all.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 October 2013 02:36 (twelve years ago)
Bowie and Reed's that is
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 October 2013 02:37 (twelve years ago)
the lou/vu tracks i put on my podcast tonight. didn't expect this to go in such a sad direction. "adventurer" is happy tho i guess.
Lou Reed - Wind Coda Lou Reed - Halloween Parade Velvet Underground - Some Kinda Love Lou Reed - Downtown Dirt Lou Reed - Andy's Chest Lou Reed - How Do You Think It Feels Lou Reed - Kill Your Sons Lou Reed - The Bells Velvet Underground - Here She Comes Now Lou Reed - Bottoming Out Lou Reed - Ride Into The Sun Lou Reed - Think It Over Lou Reed - Adventurer Velvet Underground - Foggy Notion (Quine Tapes/Family Dog version)
― oxnard christian soldiers (get bent), Thursday, 31 October 2013 06:01 (twelve years ago)
This is a Nico song about Andy performed by John, nothing to do with Lou, but perhaps everything to do with Lou:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_sNGnEjvyA
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 31 October 2013 06:05 (twelve years ago)
He was very open, he would say, "Lars, I love you", and text me a heart.
aw
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Thursday, 31 October 2013 06:14 (twelve years ago)
. Ten minutes before the crash on European Son, you can hear Reed signpost his love of Motown by opening There She Goes Again with a musical quotation from Martha and the Vandellas' Hitch Hike.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 31 October 2013 09:50 (twelve years ago)
That means it is right then.
Admittedly, that would depend on which record Lou had, Marvin's or Martha's.
― Mark G, Thursday, 31 October 2013 10:30 (twelve years ago)
Maybe he got it from The Rolling Stones version, like Johnny Marr.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 31 October 2013 11:15 (twelve years ago)
open letter from Laurie Anderson - http://easthamptonstar.com/Obituaries/20131031/Lou-Reed
― Merdeyeux, Thursday, 31 October 2013 19:44 (twelve years ago)
Crying.
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 31 October 2013 20:03 (twelve years ago)
taken down?
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Thursday, 31 October 2013 20:07 (twelve years ago)
I think the site's just being slammed.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 October 2013 20:08 (twelve years ago)
yeah I imagine so
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Thursday, 31 October 2013 20:09 (twelve years ago)
c/p?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 31 October 2013 20:09 (twelve years ago)
Thinking the same thing, for the good of the intranetz.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 31 October 2013 20:11 (twelve years ago)
For Lou Reed| October 31, 2013 - 2:15pmTo our neighbors:What a beautiful fall! Everything shimmering and golden and all that incredible soft light. Water surrounding us.Lou and I have spent a lot of time here in the past few years, and even though we’re city people this is our spiritual home.Last week I promised Lou to get him out of the hospital and come home to Springs. And we made it!Lou was a tai chi master and spent his last days here being happy and dazzled by the beauty and power and softness of nature. He died on Sunday morning looking at the trees and doing the famous 21 form of tai chi with just his musician hands moving through the air.Lou was a prince and a fighter and I know his songs of the pain and beauty in the world will fill many people with the incredible joy he felt for life. Long live the beauty that comes down and through and onto all of us.— Laurie Andersonhis loving wife and eternal friend
To our neighbors:
What a beautiful fall! Everything shimmering and golden and all that incredible soft light. Water surrounding us.
Lou and I have spent a lot of time here in the past few years, and even though we’re city people this is our spiritual home.
Last week I promised Lou to get him out of the hospital and come home to Springs. And we made it!
Lou was a tai chi master and spent his last days here being happy and dazzled by the beauty and power and softness of nature. He died on Sunday morning looking at the trees and doing the famous 21 form of tai chi with just his musician hands moving through the air.
Lou was a prince and a fighter and I know his songs of the pain and beauty in the world will fill many people with the incredible joy he felt for life. Long live the beauty that comes down and through and onto all of us.
— Laurie Andersonhis loving wife and eternal friend
― Merdeyeux, Thursday, 31 October 2013 20:12 (twelve years ago)
Thanks M.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 October 2013 20:17 (twelve years ago)
can hear her saying that
― Jesus (wins), Thursday, 31 October 2013 20:24 (twelve years ago)
Lou's last public appearance...?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di_2U23NA6A&feature=youtu.be
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 31 October 2013 20:49 (twelve years ago)
Sunday morning, praise the dawningIt's just a restless feeling by my sideEarly dawning, sunday morningIt's just the wasted years so close behind
Watch out, the world's behind youThere's always someone around you who will callIt's nothing at all
Sunday morning and I'm fallingI've got a feeling I don't want to knowEarly dawning, sunday morningIt's all the streets you crossed, not so long ago
Sunday morningSunday morningSunday morning
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 1 November 2013 01:08 (twelve years ago)
A guy I know did this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/gypsyfrocksbedlam/Pumpkin_Lou_zps30e3c13e.jpg
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 1 November 2013 02:23 (twelve years ago)
Aaaand I've got a new Facebook profile pic.
― pplains, Friday, 1 November 2013 02:26 (twelve years ago)
Some reminiscences of Lou by Hoboken musicians:
http://www.nj.com/hobokennow/index.ssf/2013/10/progenitors_of_hobokens_music.html
― o. nate, Friday, 1 November 2013 02:45 (twelve years ago)
I love the image of Lou doing tai chi on his last day
That obit is so simple & beautiful, man I'm getting sad all over again.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 November 2013 03:44 (twelve years ago)
I always figured it was Marvin Gaye's Hitch-Hike by way of that Rolling Stones song that likewise nicked the same riff and whose name I am forgetting.
beautiful letter from laurie a.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 1 November 2013 05:49 (twelve years ago)
The Rolling Stones song would be "Hitch hike". It's on Out of our Heads.
― glumdalclitch, Friday, 1 November 2013 06:10 (twelve years ago)
Only two bands ever heard the Rolling Stones' "Hitch Hike" but every one of them wrote a song that nicked the intro.
― Waiting For The Ufas (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 November 2013 11:16 (twelve years ago)
Should someone tip off this Etsy vulture trying to cash in on Lou's passing that something is very wrong with this shirt?
http://www.etsy.com/listing/167282687/rip-lou-reed-shirt-silver-shirt?ref=sr_gallery_5&ga_search_query=reed&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_ship_to=US&ga_search_type=all
― Lee626, Sunday, 3 November 2013 12:13 (twelve years ago)
"Velvet Men" seems like a tipoff that it's maybe not genuinely accidental
― some dude, Sunday, 3 November 2013 12:23 (twelve years ago)
Singles Jukebox reviews an unexpected miscellany of Lou tunes: http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/?p=8234
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 November 2013 12:32 (twelve years ago)
I've always wondered about famous folk who get called tai chi masters or black belts or some other top level of something. So this is interesting:
http://www.examiner.com/article/lou-reed-a-highly-celebrated-tai-chi-practitioner-and-promoter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNSQ-R_HxTM
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 November 2013 13:01 (twelve years ago)
By the eighties people who liked music assumed you would have heard and liked the VUBy the nineties the VU were canonized. That's when I started seeing people actually owning their albums or their stuff on sale at Best Buy or Camelot.― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:24 (4 days ago) Permalink
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:24 (4 days ago) Permalink
If we're talking about the critical canon, though, I'd say VU were firmly in it by the early eighties if not earlier. VU & Nico was already being included in lists of greatest/most important albums by then, and anyone looking for godparents of punk/new wave was pointed in their direction.
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Sunday, 3 November 2013 14:47 (twelve years ago)
Watched the Transformer doc the other day and this clip transformed (sorry, I had to) the way I listen to 'Andy's Chest'. I've never really picked up on devotion of those lyrics. I'm gonna miss him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf4UItTOpZo
― Mule, Sunday, 3 November 2013 17:00 (twelve years ago)
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/03/opinion/sunday/when-backstage-was-no-big-deal.html?_r=0
― socki (s1ocki), Sunday, 3 November 2013 17:14 (twelve years ago)
I've been listening to "The Bells" a lot, cos of Disco Mystic. Cool, weird album!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 November 2013 17:29 (twelve years ago)
xp just another month at the Boston Tea Party:
http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/gallery/abb/stuff/memorabiliaposters/allmans%20boston%20tea%20party%2069.jpg
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Sunday, 3 November 2013 18:36 (twelve years ago)
(incidentally I work just a block away from the building that used to house the BTP)
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Sunday, 3 November 2013 18:39 (twelve years ago)
http://www.berkshirefinearts.com/uploadedImages/articles/277_The-VU-on-View411065.jpg
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 November 2013 18:58 (twelve years ago)
proto twee
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 November 2013 19:00 (twelve years ago)
This must have been a mindmelter...http://images.wolfgangsvault.com/the-velvet-underground/poster/memorabilia/BTP680322-PO.jpg
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 November 2013 19:03 (twelve years ago)
that May BTP calendar above is just unbelievable
― sleeve, Sunday, 3 November 2013 21:15 (twelve years ago)
And the shows were probably like 5 dollars at most.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 November 2013 22:48 (twelve years ago)
depends what show
The Who were probably more expansive
― nostormo, Sunday, 3 November 2013 22:54 (twelve years ago)
"ehhh, I saw Led Zeppelin last night, gonna skip their 2nd night and save my money for the Velvet Underground"
― sleeve, Sunday, 3 November 2013 22:54 (twelve years ago)
i wondr if there were fans of both at the time...
― nostormo, Sunday, 3 November 2013 22:55 (twelve years ago)
Nico recorded with both Jimmy Page and the Velvet Underground, was she a fan of either?
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:03 (twelve years ago)
I wonder how many VU fans were perplexed by those hairy guys with two drummers and 30 minute blues jams they had as openers. "The All what Brothers or something?"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:06 (twelve years ago)
i wonder who were The Food Family
― nostormo, Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:07 (twelve years ago)
poco and family?
― nostormo, Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:08 (twelve years ago)
ah ok
― nostormo, Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:09 (twelve years ago)
also check out Roland Kirk opening for The Who
― sleeve, Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:15 (twelve years ago)
...and Joe Cocker! He must have been in for the week.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:17 (twelve years ago)
nothing's perfect
― nostormo, Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:24 (twelve years ago)
The Page-era Yardbirds covered "I'm Waiting For The Man" throughout 1968. Supposedly, the Yardbirds were the first band to cover VU.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBRmpNXQF4w
(little bit of "How Many More Times" at the end)
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:34 (twelve years ago)
I would have loved to have seen every single band on that Boston Tea Party flier. Even Zephyr.
― Lee626, Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:39 (twelve years ago)
<i>The Page-era Yardbirds covered "I'm Waiting For The Man" throughout 1968. Supposedly, the Yardbirds were the first band to cover VU.</i>
I think the first VU cover on record is this mid-1967 45 from Dutch band the Riats. The flip side is "Sunday Morning"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voV_e0IKwzs
― Lee626, Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:55 (twelve years ago)
The Riats are like the friendly VU
― Moodles, Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:58 (twelve years ago)
Love the Tommy James & The Shondells sound on that!
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:58 (twelve years ago)
We did the earliest Velvets cover thing on another thread recently. This was recorded before the first album had even been releasedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPwCSem3cUQ
― Number None, Monday, 4 November 2013 00:03 (twelve years ago)
That's a cool one. We're they a British band?
― Moodles, Monday, 4 November 2013 00:07 (twelve years ago)
ok, apparently the first VU cover record ever: The Electrical Banana (sometimes just The Banana) "There She Goes Again", from January 1967. Only ten copies were printed; David Bowie owns a test pressing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuRd7czXHis
Just after the Electrical Banana scored a nationally-distributed record contract, frontman Dean Kohler got drafted and sent to Vietnam, where this was recorded. Here's his memoir.
― Lee626, Monday, 4 November 2013 00:10 (twelve years ago)
so they saw VU live before they recorded the first LP and covered it?!
― nostormo, Monday, 4 November 2013 00:23 (twelve years ago)
Evidently. Apparently through the Bowie connection - he had that acetate from before the record became available.
http://www.deanelliskohler.com/record2.jpg
― Lee626, Monday, 4 November 2013 00:29 (twelve years ago)
Google Books excerpt, discussing the Electrical Banana's maybe-first-ever VU cover
guy has a website with a "contact me" link, maybe he can fill us in on the story....
― Lee626, Monday, 4 November 2013 00:36 (twelve years ago)
The bulk of the songs that would become The Velvet Underground & Nico were recorded in mid-April, 1966
― sleepingsignal, Monday, 4 November 2013 00:36 (twelve years ago)
The album, save for "Sunday Morning" which was added later in a genuine effort to have a radio-friendly single, was in the can for about a year before it was released. Remember they didn't have a record contract yet; it took awhile for Andy Warhol to shop around and get them signed, and also some time for the pressing plants to gear up to produce the peelable-banana album cover.
― Lee626, Monday, 4 November 2013 00:40 (twelve years ago)
Supposedly Zappa and Herb Cohen talked Verve into focusing all their attention on Freak Out!, which delayed the release of VU & N for a few months.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 4 November 2013 00:41 (twelve years ago)
http://www.billboard.com/files/media/velvet_undergound_510.png
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 4 November 2013 00:42 (twelve years ago)
don't know if this is mentioned upthread, but Lou guest DJ'ing on WPIX in 1979 is possibly the greatest thing ever...http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/43079765584/fuck-radio-ethiopia-this-is-radio-brooklyn-my
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 4 November 2013 00:47 (twelve years ago)
some good info here - http://www.richieunterberger.com/vumyth.html
― balls, Monday, 4 November 2013 00:51 (twelve years ago)
"Nico sounded like a Bedouin woman singing a funeral dirge in Arabic while accompanied by an off-key air raid siren" (the Detroit Free Press)
Ahaha that's a great quote
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 4 November 2013 01:25 (twelve years ago)
wow, that was great, balls--thanks for sharing
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 4 November 2013 01:26 (twelve years ago)
http://www.popspotsnyc.com/lou_reed_velvet_underground/
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 4 November 2013 01:36 (twelve years ago)
that is amazing, elvis, thanks. at my first job in NYC in 1990 I used to go to that deli every day. so weird that it was max's, apparently the walls were all the same...
― Iago Galdston, Monday, 4 November 2013 01:51 (twelve years ago)
Also, from the Donald Greenhaus photoshoot, the band was photographed about 2 blocks away in an area called "Five Forks" where 5 streets come together. (I did this search after a website called Flaming Pablum challenged its readers to find the site.)
― Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 November 2013 01:53 (twelve years ago)
For me, the first "VU" cover would be the Downliners Sect "Why don't you smile now", but that's a fairly obscure source song..
― Mark G, Monday, 4 November 2013 07:07 (twelve years ago)
Ok now i have a strong urge to make a 60s VU covers comp. Any more good ones?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 November 2013 15:36 (twelve years ago)
FEELIES
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 4 November 2013 15:42 (twelve years ago)
(i know they are not 60s but the passing of lou reed has led me into the welcoming and familiar arms of the feelies)
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 4 November 2013 15:44 (twelve years ago)
multiple x-post from that NYT backstage with the VU at Boston Teaparty article:
But Lou was gracious and kind, talking about everything from a weird diet he was thinking about — eating nothing but lettuce — to his love of Dion and his total dislike of Frank Zappa.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 4 November 2013 17:09 (twelve years ago)
Long essay/letter just released by Joseph Arthur, who I guess was a good friend of Lou's. It ends with this:
Another story I have to share is walking with a group of usincluding Lou in NYCin the early eveningand passing an apartment whereI heard them playing “Pale Blue Eyes” on the stereo thru the window. I stopped Lou and said, “Come here and listen”We stood outside and listened to his, and perhaps anyone’s, most beautiful song. Then I urged him to knock on the windowI said, “How funny would it be if you did that?”He smileda smile that said,“Not a chance”and kept walking.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:29 (twelve years ago)
Zerberts VU listener on the belly: "No one will ever believe you."
― pplains, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:31 (twelve years ago)
xpost he could have signed a napkin...
― Mark G, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:36 (twelve years ago)
Loureedia is a genus of velvet spiders that live underground...
― Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:43 (twelve years ago)
Laurie Anderson's extended farewell
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/laurie-andersons-farewell-to-lou-reed-a-rolling-stone-exclusive-20131106
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:43 (twelve years ago)
We made up ridiculous jokes; stopped smoking 20 times; fought; learned to hold our breath underwater; went to Africa; sang opera in elevators; made friends with unlikely people; followed each other on tour when we could; got a sweet piano-playing dog; shared a house that was separate from our own places; protected and loved each other.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:53 (twelve years ago)
jeez that made me cry all over again
― sleeve, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:00 (twelve years ago)
^^this
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:21 (twelve years ago)
Me too. Since he died, I've only been listening to The Blue Mask, which I'd known for years, and Berlin, which I'd never heard before. I feel like I've gotten a perspective I never had before, something more intimate, by obsessively crawling through these records, and reading Laurie's remembrance just now hit me harder than the initial news of his passing.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:30 (twelve years ago)
fourthed
(the crying, that is)
― Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:40 (twelve years ago)
fifthed
so beautifully written
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:43 (twelve years ago)
Having watched my dad die (the literal moment of it) in hospice years ago I feel like I dimly dimly understand what she is saying about the numinousness of that moment even though I didn't and don't have the spiritual tools to apprehend it clearly
― Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:49 (twelve years ago)
i need to take up meditation again ffs
Sounds like had a beautiful life together. I like that she is letting people in on what I imagine is only a tiny portion of that good feeling.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:51 (twelve years ago)
THEY had a beautiful lifei am too post hasty all the time
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:52 (twelve years ago)
the last moments of my mother in law's life, her youngest son was holding her in his arms & her husband was holding her hand
laurie reminded me of how much love we witnessed & I feel v lucky in retrospect to have been a part of it
i am glad lou had that
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 19:01 (twelve years ago)
yeah. what a way to live, what a way to go. holy shit.
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 19:02 (twelve years ago)
Average Guy is a serious earworm, been in my head for days
― Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 20:16 (twelve years ago)
man, that was really beautiful.
Another little thing i noticed relistening to Sister Ray - at around 13:00 when he slows down - "IIIIII couuuuuldn't hiiittt iiittt siiiiiideways" - oh look it's the Tall Dwarfs.
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 22:34 (twelve years ago)
That's an amazing piece of writing.
― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 7 November 2013 00:00 (twelve years ago)
Beautiful piece. I love that their first date was to an audio engineering trade show.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 7 November 2013 06:52 (twelve years ago)
also her relative ignorance about the VU in '92
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 November 2013 12:46 (twelve years ago)
Might not have worked out otherwise.
― Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 7 November 2013 12:54 (twelve years ago)
Dave Marsh's Lou obit.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:04 (twelve years ago)
the not knowing about VU thing really puzzled me. and that the art/fashion/music worlds were so separate in nyc in the 90's. if ever there was a place where all worlds collide i would say it was new york. i mean you would have thought she would have known about VU just because of the nyc art world connection!
― scott seward, Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:31 (twelve years ago)
but i guess she keeps to herself. even though i have always thought of her as one of the most connected art/world/fashion new york people who has ever lived.
― scott seward, Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:32 (twelve years ago)
Wonder if Lou put on a British accent at first to keep her liking him.
― pplains, Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:34 (twelve years ago)
I mean she was recording and hangin out with Burroughs in '84, you'd think there'd be some overlap.
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:47 (twelve years ago)
When Alan Licht played Lou a track of Burroughs singing for an 'Invisible Jukebox' feature in the Wire a few years ago, Lou thought it was Lord Buckley
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:51 (twelve years ago)
He'd have been a hoot in the 'next line' round...
― Mark G, Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:57 (twelve years ago)
Richie Unterberger's VU myth page points out that the Velvets only played in NYC a handful of times (only three documented instances) from '67-'70, so conceivably even Anderson's earliest NYC acquaintances wouldn't necessarily have had any first-hand connection/overlap with the Velvets.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:57 (twelve years ago)
Just read that Laurie Anderson piece; wow.
― Nhex, Thursday, 7 November 2013 17:47 (twelve years ago)
James Wolcott, 1976:
Lou Reed survived and parodied Death on the Installment Plan. “Heroin,” for example, was a song which was dropped from the Velvets repertoire for a while because too many people embraced it as being pro-smack, when in fact Reed intended the song as a sort of exorcism. Yet only a few years later Reed would not only perform “Heroin” in his solo act but would take out a syringe, wrap the microphone cord around his arm, pretend to shoot up, and hand the syringe to someone in the audience. When Cher said that the music of the Velvet Underground would replace nothing except suicide, she was unknowingly anticipating the rue-morgue antics of Lou Reed and his progeny. Just last week I heard one of New York’s underground bands, the Miamis, do a song glamorizing the La Guardia bombing incident, and at one point the lead singer proclaimed, “There’s no such thing as an innocent bystander!” Maybe he and Reed should take a ride in De Niro’s taxi. . . .
Where Lou Reed used to stare death down (particularly in the black-blooded “Berlin”), he now christens random violence. Small wonder, then, that his conversation ripples with offhanded brutality: though he probably couldn’t open a package of Twinkies without his hands trembling, he enjoys babbling threats of violence. One night, when a girl at C.B.G.B. clapped loudly (and out of beat) to a Television song, Reed threatened to knock “the cunt’s head off”; she blithely ignored him, and he finally got up and left. No one takes his bluster seriously; I even know women who find his steely bitterness sexy.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/doubleday/lou-reed-rising-dfcu
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 November 2013 18:04 (twelve years ago)
OK, that Dave Marsh piece hit the bullseye for me because1) His Lou Reed is very similar to my Lou Reed2) Perfect you-are-there-in-rock-and-roll-history moment featuring Mitch Ryder and Johnny B.
― Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 01:31 (twelve years ago)
I have to say, I've been waiting for Marsh to weigh in, for a few reasons. I've read very little (or he's written very little) of his stuff about the Velvets, and the most extensive Reed piece of his I've read is what amounts to a takedown in the New Rolling Stone Record Guide (1983, blue cover). Highest rankings went to Rock and Roll Animal and Street Hassle (and maybe Coney Island Baby...or was it Rock & Roll Heart?), which got four stars each. Bewilderingly, Legendary Hearts and The Blue Mask got one or two stars each. Reading that obit, Marsh either changed his mind, or the star rankings in the book were a typo. He ends the RS piece saying Reed remains barely a minor artist. I think he meant to caution against overrating Lou, and wound up underrating him.
But then ("a commercial hustle", "not particularly witty") as now ("a hoax"), he's dead wrong about MMM.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 8 November 2013 01:46 (twelve years ago)
Am I the only one who likes Legendary Hearts better than The Blue Mask? Despite being a Quine fan, just think the tunes are better on Legendary Hearts.
― Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 01:53 (twelve years ago)
Somewhat surprised Marsh didn't bring up BRUUUUUUCCCCE's cameo on "Street Hassle".
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 November 2013 01:54 (twelve years ago)
He didn't want to overplay his hand.
― Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 November 2013 01:55 (twelve years ago)
He also didn't bring up any duets with Pete Townshend.
Ha, I remember thinking at the time, "Hm, wonder why Marsh thinks that's the lone bright spot in Lou's late 70s run?"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 8 November 2013 01:56 (twelve years ago)
(the Townshend duets didn't happen until 2007)
Legendary Hearts IS a better song record but it's so austere about its flourishes it's downright Presbyterian; when a solo shows up on "Make Up My Mind" or "Home of the Brave" it's like a favorite aunt serving you wine.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 November 2013 02:14 (twelve years ago)
wasn't quine on that but they took him off? if so, a shame. hate to think even a second of robert quine playing guitar didn't make it out. :(
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 November 2013 02:57 (twelve years ago)
He's mixed so low that Reed could be standing on him.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 November 2013 03:00 (twelve years ago)
http://www.emusic.com/music-news/spotlight/lenny-kaye-remembers-lou-reed/
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 10 November 2013 17:53 (twelve years ago)
Wonderful version. Goes well with Laurie Anderson's beautiful words on Lou. I'm wrapping up the mourning-period now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUr8oRfG1AM
― Mule, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 16:21 (twelve years ago)
RIP, Butch. http://www.nyrock.com/lou_reed.htm
― Pazz & Jop 1280 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 14 November 2013 13:29 (twelve years ago)
Joel Meyerowitz @joelmeyerowitz 10 Nov
In 1968 I took this casual shot of an interesting looking guy, only to discover later it was Lou Reed & John Cale.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYwn8feCcAA7kdR.png
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 15 November 2013 16:51 (twelve years ago)
haha yeah, i've spent wayyyy too long staring at that picture in the last couple of days
― tylerw, Friday, 15 November 2013 16:55 (twelve years ago)
Florsheim Shoes!
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 November 2013 16:59 (twelve years ago)
oh man they both look so cute!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 15 November 2013 17:18 (twelve years ago)
that is such a fantastic pic
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 15 November 2013 19:33 (twelve years ago)
They're like a couple. Check out the body language.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 November 2013 19:35 (twelve years ago)
They look nothing like a couple. You're insane.
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Friday, 15 November 2013 19:48 (twelve years ago)
deeply nerdy/obsessive observation but it seems as though it's the same day as this pichttp://werksman.home.xs4all.nl/cale/img/cale_reed_wilson.jpg
― tylerw, Friday, 15 November 2013 19:49 (twelve years ago)
i just gis'ed all of john cale's hairdos so hey you're not alone
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 15 November 2013 19:51 (twelve years ago)
are you going to do a poll?
― tylerw, Friday, 15 November 2013 19:55 (twelve years ago)
no because i think it would give me a heart attack
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 15 November 2013 19:56 (twelve years ago)
Tom Wilson in that photo?
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 November 2013 20:14 (twelve years ago)
First photo looks like Kirk and Spock.
― Spencer Chow, Friday, 15 November 2013 20:16 (twelve years ago)
Tom Wilson in that photo?yeah they're recording this classic interview. what a well-documented day for lou and john! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Cyw9yhkMs
― tylerw, Friday, 15 November 2013 20:19 (twelve years ago)
Thanks. Have you guys seen the recent Tom Wilson website?
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:11 (twelve years ago)
http://www.producertomwilson.com
yeahhhh, it is great! what an amazing guy.
― tylerw, Friday, 15 November 2013 21:12 (twelve years ago)
Seriously, I mean, he was there for the recording debuts of Sun Ra, Cecil Taylor, and the Velvets; in other words, the seeds of maybe 2/3rds of late-20th century Western music history.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:22 (twelve years ago)
..on the phone to his gf
― Mark G, Friday, 15 November 2013 21:26 (twelve years ago)
he worked with a singer songwriter by the name of dylan too!
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:33 (twelve years ago)
every picture of tom wilson i've ever seen he looks like the coolest dude ever
Believe he worked with that one guy with the soul patch too.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:50 (twelve years ago)
that little folk-singing duo with the short dude and the one with the funny name.
― tylerw, Friday, 15 November 2013 21:51 (twelve years ago)
I love that he grafted electric guitars and drums onto "The Sounds of Silence" without consulting S&G. Dude knew better.
Also, somewhat mind-blowingly, he did the overdubs on the same day as the "Like A Rolling Stone" session:
On June 15, 1965, immediately after the recording session of Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone", Wilson took the original acoustically instrumented track of Simon & Garfunkel's 1964 version, and overdubbed the recording with electric guitar (played by Al Gorgoni and Vinnie Bell), electric bass (Joe Mack), and drums (Buddy Salzman), and released it as a single without consulting Simon or Garfunkel.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 15 November 2013 21:54 (twelve years ago)
haha, is that right? dude could've retired right then and there.
― tylerw, Friday, 15 November 2013 21:55 (twelve years ago)
Awesome
― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 November 2013 11:21 (twelve years ago)
Wow... that makes the song esp the drums
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 November 2013 14:19 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJdCqZJWQxI
Ah crap I forgot to include "Families" from "The Bells".
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 16 November 2013 16:42 (twelve years ago)
Poll fail
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 16 November 2013 17:36 (twelve years ago)
Actually I was a poll faulter.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 November 2013 17:42 (twelve years ago)
I'm curious why Lou Reed is carrying a Qantas flight bag (in the Meyerowitz photo)
― Josefa, Saturday, 16 November 2013 18:33 (twelve years ago)
they were all the rage
― Mark G, Saturday, 16 November 2013 18:39 (twelve years ago)
Dunno. But just realized there is a parallel between the way the VU songwriting team met and the way the creative principals of Steely Dan met, working in some kind of hit factory and then deciding they had other material they wanted to share with the world.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 November 2013 18:40 (twelve years ago)
Then when I searched for Donald Fagen and Lou
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 November 2013 18:41 (twelve years ago)
Found out about some bizarre but believable and touching anecdote that Donald has been telling. Someone posted it in the comments to Alex in NYCs blog among other places.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 November 2013 18:43 (twelve years ago)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-U5s7yVD6aAc/UCvtQRKtNrI/AAAAAAAAACc/Hz8BEMgr3Po/s1600/smails.jpg
― pplains, Saturday, 16 November 2013 18:50 (twelve years ago)
donald fagen went to see a matinee of terms of endearment on a wednesday. lou reed walks in sits in the row in front of him. death scene comes lou reed starts bawling. fagen thinks 'wtf'. he tells it better.
― balls, Saturday, 16 November 2013 18:52 (twelve years ago)
It's a pretty good story although I think I prefer his reminiscences of watching Levon Helm play.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 November 2013 19:04 (twelve years ago)
It sounds like an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm.
― pplains, Saturday, 16 November 2013 19:56 (twelve years ago)
Reminds me a wee bit of a certain Delmore Schwartz story.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 November 2013 20:46 (twelve years ago)
Great thread. The only Delmore Schwartz story I've read (by him, though it may also be about him) is "In Dreams Begin Responsibilities." Hope a Lou song with that title comes to light (according to Rolling Stone, he'd been playing with something called the Metal Machine Trio, and another one which included Laurie Anderson and John Zorn---let the box sets continue, and Bootleg Series begin). Anyway, I liked the story. Lots of good LR comments, memoirs etc. linked from rockcritics.com. Here's one such: "Lou Velvet(Or, Longtime Companion)(Kinda)" http://thefreelancementalists.blogspot.com/2013_11_01_archive.html
― dow, Saturday, 16 November 2013 21:49 (twelve years ago)
Found out about some bizarre but believable and touching anecdote that Donald has been telling. Someone posted it in the comments to Alex in NYCs blog among other places.― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, November 16, 2013 1:43 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
what's the name of Alex's blog?
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 16 November 2013 22:26 (twelve years ago)
Flaming Pablum
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Saturday, 16 November 2013 22:27 (twelve years ago)
thanks
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 16 November 2013 22:50 (twelve years ago)
Thanks for the link, dow. That guy is a great writer, I wonder if he posts on ilx?
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 November 2013 22:56 (twelve years ago)
The only Delmore Schwartz story I've read (by him, though it may also be about him) is "In Dreams Begin Responsibilities."
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 November 2013 23:00 (twelve years ago)
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, November 16, 2013 5:56 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is joek?
― lollercoaster of rove (s.clover), Saturday, 16 November 2013 23:44 (twelve years ago)
greg proops did a long bit dedicated to Lou Reed in the new episode of his podcast, goddamn it got me teary all over again
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 November 2013 23:46 (twelve years ago)
this is joeksquarepusher theme
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 November 2013 23:49 (twelve years ago)
Sorry link I meant to post was Defend The Indefensible: Elvis Costello's "No Action"
Meaning yes.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 November 2013 23:57 (twelve years ago)
In fact, I posted that as soon as I saw the byline and scanned the first paragraph. Now that I've read the whole thing I would like to say something like: Don, that was really great and may be your best yet, which is saying something.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 00:16 (twelve years ago)
Thanks, James. Sorry if anybody's already posted this, but worth the risk: Reed's prose poem to Schwartz, published last year (check the comments too, esp. the sixth one, by Lote Tree)http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/article/244148#article
― dow, Sunday, 17 November 2013 01:02 (twelve years ago)
James Atlas biography of Delmore was very good. He also shows up to great effect in Anatole Broyard's When Kafka Was The Rage. Apparently he was one incredibly gifted raconteur who could weave together these fantastically long stories featuring famous people and all kind of incredible detail that would go on for hours or even days that, however preposterous, were also at the same time somehow plausible and believable.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 01:12 (twelve years ago)
He's pretty much the center or off-center of Humboldt's Gift too. And a lotta links here (great pic of DS w the Agees, also on the cover of a posthumous Schwartz comp) http://praymont.blogspot.com/2013/11/delmore-and-lou.html
― dow, Sunday, 17 November 2013 01:19 (twelve years ago)
Hey, one of the authors linked to on that page once "borrowed" some Delmore Schwartz books from me. In quotes because I had to remind him that they were mine and take them back off his shelf.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 01:28 (twelve years ago)
What are the essential Schwartz books? Or if correct answer is "All of 'em", what should we start with?
― dow, Sunday, 17 November 2013 01:33 (twelve years ago)
Wasn't crazy about the portrayal in Humboldt's Gift, seemed to be too much about the decline, although the sequence in which the Bellow standin (Charlie Citrine?) sees his former mentor looking demented holding a paper bag of groceries and passes up what would have been his past chance to talk to him is kind of unforgettable.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 01:39 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, that's almost the only thing I remember about it! Also, think Citrine glimpsed him from RFK's limo (as Kennedy was tersely grilling him about essential info on Spinoza or some other pillar of Western Civ)
― dow, Sunday, 17 November 2013 01:52 (twelve years ago)
Definitely read In Dreams Begin Responsibilities and Other Stories, for the other stories as well as the title one. That poem by Lou is the preface of the latest edition, which also contains intro by Atlas and the original afterword by Irving Howe as far as I can tell. See if you can find a collection which has his most famous poems, like "Plato" and "Socrates" for short, might find them in a general anthology, or just go for Summer Knowledge. Also definitely try to get a hold of some of his criticism to really see how he put language and ideas together. I never owned any of the last, just used to stop off and read some at the Mid-Manhattan Library, which is now up for sale, on my commute home from high school.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 01:56 (twelve years ago)
Hey, check these out. I don't have a subscription so I can't read the whole articles don't know if you do, but even the free teaser parts are informative:http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/1966/sep/08/delmore-schwartz-19131966/http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/1971/may/20/delmore-schwartz-the-paradox-of-precocity/
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 01:59 (twelve years ago)
will get the books, thanks (o but Amazon, be ye not quite so damned convenient)
― dow, Sunday, 17 November 2013 02:01 (twelve years ago)
Feel like the perhaps excusable failure of SB to acknowledge his friend is overtaken by his inability to bring him to life on the page and show what a large shadow he really cast in his heyday- perhaps some kind of anxiety of influence. Maybe the reason Anatole Broyard was able to capture Delmore so well was that the two of them were kind of similar characters in that they both lived for literature and could thereupon expound wittily and endlessly but in the end never came near their potential, albeit for different reasons, so that in the end the biography is almost as and in the latter case more interesting than the work.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 02:06 (twelve years ago)
"the latter"---Schwartz's life more interesting than his work, or do you mean Broyard's? (mostly remember AB as gadfly reviewer, but All The Rage sounds good)
― dow, Sunday, 17 November 2013 02:15 (twelve years ago)
Broyard's life more interesting than work, Delmore's life almost as interesting but work still in the lead. I guess you never read the Skip Gates article on AB or his daughter's book or at least a review of it.
Too bad I don't have my copies if the books anymore- maybe I should have left one on the guy's shelf after all- or I might have just sent them to you. In any case you can read some of the poems through google books or even here: http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/171344
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 02:19 (twelve years ago)
http://web.princeton.edu/sites/english/NEH/GATES1.HTM
Yeah, don't want you to go crazy buying books but you should definitely read When Kafka Was The Rage.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 02:25 (twelve years ago)
Used to think Lou made too much of the Schwartz connection but I guess at this stage it is reasonably clear that there were many times when he WAS channeling the guy.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 02:28 (twelve years ago)
Need it be added that the guy was also silent film-star handsome in his day.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 02:31 (twelve years ago)
And that his shade flickers through the aperture at screenings of Zelig?
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 02:34 (twelve years ago)
Which just led me by a commodius vicus to this: http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/music/115016/lou-reeds-rabbi-2?all=1
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 02:40 (twelve years ago)
If that's too compare-and-contrast for you, you can just go directly here: http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/74715/growing-pains
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 02:44 (twelve years ago)
And then read the bio at the Poetry Foundation page: http://www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/delmore-schwartzand then this poem: http://www.poemhunter.com/best-poems/delmore-schwartz/tired-and-unhappy-you-think-of-houses/
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 03:11 (twelve years ago)
And the bio over there as well: http://www.poemhunter.com/delmore-schwartz/biography/OK, I'll stop. Sorry it took a while.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 03:12 (twelve years ago)
Hm. That last website is kind of cheesy. Some stuff on it though.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 03:16 (twelve years ago)
Basically what it seems to add up to was that the guy was a poet's poet's poet's poet.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 03:20 (twelve years ago)
Holy shit, just finished reading the princeton.edu re Broyard. I'd heard about some of that, but not in depth, incl.lingering questions (balanced by many accounts of the price he and others quite evidently paid). Leave it to Gates! I'll have to get his whole book, and see how this fits in. Thanks for all these links.
― dow, Sunday, 17 November 2013 03:30 (twelve years ago)
Sure. But Gates didn't write a book, just the article, as far as I know, Broyard's daughter wrote one pretty recently called One Drop. Believe she was annoyed that Gates wrote the article because she thought he was going to leave it to her to do it.
― Into The Disco Mystic (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 November 2013 03:35 (twelve years ago)
I took it as the one piece about Broyard in a collection of essays and/or profiles, since the site cites:Henry Louis Gates, Jr., "The Passing of Anatole Broyard." In Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Black Man. New York: Random House, 1997. Pp. 180-214.
― dow, Sunday, 17 November 2013 03:41 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, now I see references to O.J. and other subjects in its reviewers' descriptions---gotta get it.
― dow, Sunday, 17 November 2013 03:44 (twelve years ago)
Lou Reed Remembered will air at 9pm on BBC Four this Sunday (December 15) and will include contributions from Reed's former Velvet Underground bandmates Mo Tucker and Doug Yule plus Sonic Youth's Thurston Moore as well as Boy George and Debbie Harry. Berlin guitarist Steve Hunter, novelist Paul Auster and photographer Mick Rock will also speak about Reed while Trash actress Holly Woodlawn, referenced in the opening lyric of The Velvet Underground's 'Walk on the Wild Side', will also appear.Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/lou-reed/74328#PvwITO08ZC0xUx98.99
Berlin guitarist Steve Hunter, novelist Paul Auster and photographer Mick Rock will also speak about Reed while Trash actress Holly Woodlawn, referenced in the opening lyric of The Velvet Underground's 'Walk on the Wild Side', will also appear.Read more at http://www.nme.com/news/lou-reed/74328#PvwITO08ZC0xUx98.99
Can you spot what's wrong with the above? NME did not.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 14:54 (twelve years ago)
"Walk on the Wild Side" was by the Stooges
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:01 (twelve years ago)
Paul Auster didn't play on Loaded
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:04 (twelve years ago)
Yay, Doug Yule
― Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:11 (twelve years ago)
Thurston Moore isn't in Sonic Youth?
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:18 (twelve years ago)
*facepalm* got it now.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:19 (twelve years ago)
Still, a bit better than the Evening Standard having "Jerry Dammers sang about Nelson Mandela"
― Mark G, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:43 (twelve years ago)
Lou Reed Remembered will air at 9pm on BBC Four this Sunday (December 15) and will include contributions from Reed's former Velvet Underground bandmates Mo Tucker and Doug Yule plus Sonic Youth's Thurston Moore as well as Boy George and Debbie Harry
Where was Doug Yule then? I was like, "... Dougie must be up next... is that him... when's Dougie coming on..." And Victor Fucking Bockris was on it! Almost blubbed at Mo's bit though, I must admit.
― Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Monday, 16 December 2013 09:01 (twelve years ago)
I missed the first half but was John Cale featured at all? Hope it gets repeated when I can see it.
― Stevolende, Monday, 16 December 2013 09:05 (twelve years ago)
No, didn't expect him to be on it anyway.
― Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Monday, 16 December 2013 10:04 (twelve years ago)
If you want Doug's take (from a few years ago), you really should read this. He went up a few in my estimation for this..
http://freakytrigger.co.uk/hate/2000/12/advent-calendar-of-filth11-doug-yule/
― Mark G, Monday, 16 December 2013 10:19 (twelve years ago)
apparently Paul Simon sang "Pale Blue Eyes" at the memorial the other night
would've liked to hear that
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 December 2013 00:18 (twelve years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ-FLp9YVd0
― Number None, Thursday, 19 December 2013 00:23 (twelve years ago)
He introduced it with "Here's a song I wrote in tribute to Lou."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 19 December 2013 00:24 (twelve years ago)
all the vids are compiled here:http://www.daysofthecrazy-wild.com/?p=3166
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 19 December 2013 00:26 (twelve years ago)
awesome thx!
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 December 2013 00:40 (twelve years ago)
that simon clip is very sweet
― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 19 December 2013 18:28 (twelve years ago)
bbc doc was fantastic. it's still on iplayer for 4 more days.
― piscesx, Thursday, 19 December 2013 18:33 (twelve years ago)
at that memorial, they played lou's original 1965 pickwick demo for "heroin" too! never bootlegged afaik.
― tylerw, Thursday, 19 December 2013 18:51 (twelve years ago)
WANT
― sleeve, Thursday, 19 December 2013 18:59 (twelve years ago)
PSSST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Wie9U7ggM&t=28m10s
― you are kind, I am (waterface), Thursday, 19 December 2013 19:07 (twelve years ago)
Moe's looking old in that doc. Hadn't seen her since the VU reunion.
― Mark G, Thursday, 19 December 2013 23:40 (twelve years ago)
Can't stream the BBC doc in the US but found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZOoxCd43X8
― The Glam Of That All The Way From Memphis Man! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 20 December 2013 14:05 (twelve years ago)
you can break the region lockout on the BBC player with a Chrome add on called "Hola" - easy and works well
― My Chief Keef Keef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 December 2013 15:28 (twelve years ago)
http://ajournalofmusicalthings.com/lou-reeds-estate-selling-lot-gear-ebay/
http://stores.ebay.com/Lou-Reed-Archive
― Brio2, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 18:55 (eleven years ago)
this was interesting and very sad
https://medium.com/cuepoint/a-family-in-peril-lou-reed-s-sister-sets-the-record-straight-about-his-childhood-20e8399f84a3
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 16:00 (ten years ago)
that picture at the top is pretty chilling, when you read the caption for it (at the very bottom of the article), knowing his history
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 16:02 (ten years ago)
Pretty moving, poor Lou.
― Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 16:12 (ten years ago)
My mother came into my room and told me that they thought he might have schizophrenia. She said that the doctors told her it was because she had not picked him up enough as an infant, but had let him cry in his room. She sobbed. “The pediatrician told me to do that! He said that’s how you teach a baby to go to sleep.” It was a belief and a burden she took to her grave.
so sad, god that poor woman.
― sleeve, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:14 (ten years ago)
yeah, that jumped out at me too.
my dad was a social worker who dealt with a lot of schizophrenic teenagers and I remember him bitterly complaining about the shit shrinks dumped on the mothers of schizophrenics - and this was in the 80's, must have been much worse in the 60's.
― Brio2, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:30 (ten years ago)
I had no idea he'd gone through ECT or any of that. Sad.
― akm, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 19:25 (ten years ago)
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/apr/20/david-bowie-lou-reed-masterpiece-metallica-lulu
― You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Monday, 20 April 2015 15:49 (ten years ago)
the problem is "reading" the lyrics
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 April 2015 15:51 (ten years ago)
Will Hermes told me this weekend that according to a number of sources Reed's relationship with is dad was no more fraught than any father-son relationship and were actually quite close. When I saw the photo of his parents in that terrible Victor Bockris bio in the nineties, it seemed obvious to me from the body language that they were OK.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 April 2015 15:52 (ten years ago)
Twenty-five years from now, you’re going to have millions of people claiming they owned the record or loved it when it came out,
lol Lars
that Bockris bio is a mess even when the material is compelling. too bad Reed hasn't gotten a decent bio (probably never will at this point)
― Οὖτις, Monday, 20 April 2015 15:56 (ten years ago)
Hermes is writing one.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 April 2015 15:57 (ten years ago)
This article from Lou's ex-wife Kronstad was also mentioned over on ilm
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/bettye-kronstad-speaks-for-the-first-time-about-her-marriage-to-lou-reed-fame-is-a-fiend-it-turns-people-into-monsters-10166659.html
― curmudgeon, Monday, 20 April 2015 17:07 (ten years ago)
yeah, cautiously optimistic about the hermes Lou bio. bockris one is just lame in a lot of ways (even though i loved it when it came out).
― tylerw, Monday, 20 April 2015 17:14 (ten years ago)
I enjoyed it's trashiness but it just isn't well written
― Οὖτις, Monday, 20 April 2015 17:20 (ten years ago)
Only five hundred people attended EMP 2015, but every one of them managed to have a conversation with Will Hermes about his upcoming Lou Reed bio.
― You Play The Redd And The Blecch Comes Up (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 April 2015 17:21 (ten years ago)
haha. is there a publication date for that thing or what? this year? next year?
― tylerw, Monday, 20 April 2015 17:24 (ten years ago)
was no more fraughtOh, please. The next thing you are going to tell us is that his real name wasn't Louis 'Butch' Firbank.
― You Play The Redd And The Blecch Comes Up (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 April 2015 17:41 (ten years ago)
Wasn't it?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 April 2015 17:43 (ten years ago)
Alex Skolnick from Testament has a good piece on LULUhttp://alexskolnick.com/?p=2047
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 15:32 (ten years ago)
Finally saw that guy live last month after years of hearing about him. Interested to see what he has to say.
― The Stan-Reckoner (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 April 2015 16:31 (ten years ago)
Set the Twilight Reeling is a great record
I was angry this morning, got the aggressions out through "Egg Cream" and then cooled off through "NYC Man" and now just enjoying all the small stories. I've a bit of aggression left for "Sex w/ parents". Some day I'll probably pay 70 euros for the vinyl.
― niels, Friday, 18 September 2015 10:50 (ten years ago)
"Sex w/ parents (motherfucker)" Lou was always hot on that one..
― Mark G, Friday, 18 September 2015 11:01 (ten years ago)
It's my favorite record b/w New Sensations and Ecstasy.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 September 2015 11:04 (ten years ago)
UNDAH THE WHEELS OF A CAR. ON CANAL STREET.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 September 2015 11:05 (ten years ago)
haha, gotta love his delivery
― niels, Friday, 18 September 2015 11:46 (ten years ago)
does anyone know the original source of Lou's famous "One chord is fine. Two chords are pushing it." quote?
― alpine static, Friday, 29 July 2016 01:32 (nine years ago)
The Gospel According to Butch
― Zing Ad Hoc (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 July 2016 01:45 (nine years ago)
Lincoln Center Library gets Lou archive, to be open to the public
http://www.npr.org/2017/03/02/518150352/lou-reeds-demos-papers-and-record-collection-soon-to-be-public
includes his Max's bar tab
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 March 2017 02:17 (nine years ago)
so i could make photocopies etc
― Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 3 March 2017 17:58 (nine years ago)
My rankings. He should avoid seriousness.
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 01:49 (seven years ago)
I think Berlin and New York deserve some historical attention even if they don't work in the end. New Sensation and Ecstasy are my favorites as well.
― gospodin simmel, Monday, 10 September 2018 10:40 (seven years ago)
New York is perfect
― niels, Monday, 10 September 2018 11:53 (seven years ago)
Did you guys see that big write-up about the recording of Street Hassle a few months ago? Think I posted link on the Take No Prisoners thread.
― St Etienne Is Real (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 September 2018 11:59 (seven years ago)
I love New York but perfect is the last word I would use to describe it
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 September 2018 12:01 (seven years ago)
No New York, no Metal Machine Music, no Magic and Loss, no Music for Drella, no credibilty.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 10 September 2018 12:04 (seven years ago)
"New York" is the most boring album he ever put out imo.
― Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Monday, 10 September 2018 12:05 (seven years ago)
it's so weird how overlooked his first album is
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 September 2018 12:06 (seven years ago)
Agree with both of these last two
― St Etienne Is Real (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 September 2018 12:09 (seven years ago)
New York" is the most boring album he ever put out imo.
― Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.),
until 1992
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 12:26 (seven years ago)
"New York" vs "I Love You Suzanne"
― Mark G, Monday, 10 September 2018 12:29 (seven years ago)
xp hmm maybe perfect isn't the best word, just meant to say that it's an outstanding album and the solo reed I've listened to the most
I like most of his stuff anyway
New Sensations is an OK album
― niels, Monday, 10 September 2018 13:00 (seven years ago)
i have always enjoyed listening to new york. that is something i cannot say about a lot of albums by him. i like the journalistic aspect of it. it must be his wordiest album, he talks and talks and talks. i just love to listen to his voice. especially on take no prisoners...
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 10 September 2018 13:17 (seven years ago)
It's not a bad album it's just the Lou Reed album I'm least likely to listen to.
― Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Monday, 10 September 2018 13:24 (seven years ago)
New York starts out so incredibly strong w/the first three tracks that it can almost convince you it's a great album, but there's a lot of dross there
though i love a lot of it
New Sensations is one that I was surprised how good it was
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:13 (seven years ago)
Same. It would be in the lower reaches of a top ten. I love the opening trio, "There is No Time," and "Dime Store Mystery."
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 14:15 (seven years ago)
you have a higher tolerance than I do for fretless bass and I would've included Take No Prisoners for the laffs
― Οὖτις, Monday, 10 September 2018 15:13 (seven years ago)
"Lou Reed wanted to be normal" really does encapsulate him well tho
We are all normal and we want our feedback.
― St Etienne Is Real (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 September 2018 17:11 (seven years ago)
I've been listening to New York a lot and I really like it.
"it's so weird how overlooked his first album is"
that's because it was out of print for ages and he allegedly didn't like it.
To me the indispensibles are Transformer, Berlin, Blue Mask, New York, Magic, and Drella.
― akm, Monday, 10 September 2018 20:16 (seven years ago)
if you love those I'm p confident you'll love Set the Twilight Reeling and Ecstacy
I like Coney Island a lot, but title track is by far the best thing on it
Street Hassle I only put on for the title track
I listen to my (imaginary) Lulu EP every once in a while, it goes:
1. "Brandenburg Gate"2. "The View"3. "Iced Honey"4. "Junior Dad"
― niels, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 06:45 (seven years ago)
"dragon" or gtfo
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 13:40 (seven years ago)
alfred's convinced me i need to spend more time with new sensations
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 13:41 (seven years ago)
yeah and that's totally fair it's perhaps an underrated record, just personally, and I know it's nagl to second guess other peoples' taste, but I think you shouldn't need to pretend it's the best Lou Reed album to convince people to revisit it
I know some of you love that 80s production and so yes if that's your favorite sound then OK maybe somehow New Sensation becomes the best Lou Reed album but I think most Lou Reed fans, it's not their fav sound and not what they go to Lou Reed for
― niels, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 13:56 (seven years ago)
will have to give Dragon another listen...
― niels, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 13:57 (seven years ago)
I love it in spite of the production. These are the songs Lou Reed should've been writing in 1984, extensions of what he attempted on The Blue Mask.
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 14:46 (seven years ago)
idk every Lou fan I know loves NS.
I don't think I've ever actually listened to the entire thing tbh
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 14:53 (seven years ago)
The outro of "New Sensations" kills me. It honors the terrific line, "I want the principles of a timeless muse."
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 15:03 (seven years ago)
"Hey bro' what's the woyd, talkin' 'bout my friend Geo-eo-eo-rge"
― Scottish Country Tweerking (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 15:47 (seven years ago)
shit he died again!?
― Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:03 (seven years ago)
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 16:20 (seven years ago)
5 years today.
― greta van vliet (morrisp), Saturday, 27 October 2018 15:49 (seven years ago)
Miss u boo
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 27 October 2018 16:11 (seven years ago)
been listening to those 1970 demos he did after leaving the Velvets a lot over the last couple of weeksalso this clip of him talking about hearing the Ramones for the first time in 1975 is great (starts at 1:20)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-f2rz2G9AI
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 27 October 2018 16:44 (seven years ago)
That is fantastic!
― JRN, Saturday, 27 October 2018 18:48 (seven years ago)
love Lou's line there: "They are their own dream."
― tylerw, Saturday, 27 October 2018 18:48 (seven years ago)
He was at his best talking about music, for sure.
― Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 October 2018 18:50 (seven years ago)
where’s the Will Hermes bio?
― Tales of Jazz Ulysses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 03:52 (six years ago)
I saw on a social media site that Will Hermes mentioned spending time in November at a secluded writers retreat place. Maybe we can presume he was working on the book. He’s still writing for Rolling Stone on occasion.
There’s a book out now that consists of Lou Reed interviews from the 1970s and later, called My Week Beats Your Year
https://hatandbeard.com/products/my-week-beats-your-year-encounters-with-lou-reed
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 22:51 (six years ago)
I was at this residency with Will and we roadtripped to Liberty University (!) together for a bizarre tour.
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:01 (six years ago)
I shld clarify that this was *last* November and he was still working on it.
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 23:03 (six years ago)
8 years gone today.
― Mule, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 21:53 (four years ago)
It doesn’t feel like that long ago!
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 21:55 (four years ago)
There's a bit of magic in everythingand then some loss to even things out
― brimstead, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 22:05 (four years ago)
Love this from 2009 with Laurie A and John Zorn.
― Mule, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 22:06 (four years ago)
I remember it like it was … several years ago.
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 22:24 (four years ago)
It kinda feels about 8 years ago tbh
― Mule, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 22:33 (four years ago)
Yep
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 23:13 (four years ago)
Weird, I didn't even know the anniversary was coming up and got a compulsion to listen to New York last night. And then the Blue Mask.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 23:15 (four years ago)
Was there ever a source for the Donald Fagen/Lou Reed story other than the comments section of Alex in NYC's blog?
― Build My Gallows Hi Hi Hi (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 03:56 (three years ago)
Hmm. Upon further inspection, hat post seems legit.
― Mr. Art-I-Ficial (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 04:28 (three years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dok5uv9HrT8
In fine form here, even between songs. Fucking nuts version of Street Hassle here.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 09:13 (three years ago)
New Sensations!
― Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Saturday, 30 July 2022 22:34 (three years ago)
his post "wild side"/pre "street hassle" remarks in the video lamanti posted three weeks ago are honestly profound
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 30 July 2022 23:33 (three years ago)
this might get interestinghttps://loureed.bandcamp.com/album/the-power-of-the-heart-a-tribute-to-lou-reed
― corrs unplugged, Sunday, 31 March 2024 16:08 (one year ago)