The Electric Watercooler Acid Test: Never Trust Anyone Under 30

Ed, we clearly need to get one of these:

http://www.echolog.de/img/pranksters.jpg

Also, Ed, I have your jacket to give back to you. It STINKS. Thank god I did not need to use it. ;-)

"Age and Guile beats Youth and a bad haircut!"

You know it's a bad sign when you are discussing DDBs with yr girlfriends and going "he's actually a reasonable age, he's like, 30!"

(This was the hottie from Mainline we were talking about, not the foetus S got off with... and may have accidentally split up with his girlfriend. oops!)

Oh god, that jacket is hanging across the room, and I can still smell it.

OK, my posters just arrived. They are *GORGEOUS*. But they are now totally useless. Sigh.

New thread new name

I wish you would sell'em, Kate. I want one in our studygaming room.

How strange. I'm still signed into ILM as Herman.

ilx.wh3rd on ILE and ilx.p3r on ILM solves that little mystery.

I think i'll have 2 different identities until next time I get signed out then

Happy b-day to your gran, Kerr!

I am selling my posters, Nath! I've got to figure out how to get a paypal or else use Sonic Cathedral's account or something. I'm gonna sell them for £5 mail order.

two people have just emailed me off MySpace wanting to know how to get one - and I just noticed that the Asteroid No.4 just cheekily stuck it up on their page, too, ha! So I guess there is some demand for them. I gave the proof I had to Rob Campanella last night, as he asked for it.

Hi guys,

I always find it easier to post at the start of these threads, cos one missed day and I'm completely lost. How is everyone? I am off to the theatre tonight to see a play with SHANE RITCHIE in it, which will be fun. The things I do for my job.

Sorry to go all The Lex, but who is Shane Ritchie?

Blimey, lots of people off the interweb want posters, I've had several orders already. How do I shot paypal?

Does this title mean I can't post any more?

who is Shane Ritchie?

http://www.hootie16.freeserve.co.uk/shanebio.htm

He's a terrible terrible comic, who then went on to act in Eastenders, now thinks he's a proper actor, and is appearing in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest. Which is THE most inappropriate casting I've ever heard.

don't forget his version of I'm Your Man. Or the Daz Doorstep Challenge.

You can post, Emil.y we just can't trust you, ha ha.

OK, that's more than I ever wanted to know about this Ritchie character.

I've been looking through all the Dream Machine photos on MySpace. What a load of drunken and drugged up fules! Ha ha.

don't forget his version of I'm Your Man. Or the Daz Doorstep Challenge.

I really really really want to see his film "Shoreditch"

When I watches Eastenders I quite liked his character. Hated him before that though. Don't watch it anymore. I gave up on the soaps a few years ago. Even aussie ones.

Did anyone d/l the SAHB stuff? Tom D will rep for it i'm sure!

OK, I've just had a seven steps madness moment. Dean knows this woman Flower, in LA, who is best mates with Rachel, the former keyboardist of ver Lollies. I KNEW BJM WORLD IS TOO SMALL AND YOU ALWAYS RUN INTO THE SAME PEOPLE, EVEN TEN YEARS LATER.

I have never heard the lollies.

you have missed out.

Neither have I. How does one go about hearing them?

You don't. I have destroyed all copies of all songs on a giant pyre in the middle of Stonehenge at midnight of the last solstice.

I will send you some Shimura Curves, though, Kerr. Maybe. BUT ONLY IF YOU PEOPLE ACTUALLY GIVE ME CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK.

Oh well, I'd have read answers to that question with mild scepticism anyway -- the last time I asked it was of Dr C, asking how to obtain that single they released. Was pointed to an webshop, duly ordered and after some days received a 3 CD set entitled THE GREAT INDIE COMEBACK VOL. 2! :o

Eh, what? I don't understand. I have a load of Lollies 7"s in my cupboard if anyone wants to buy one. But you really don't need to. The mini-album is still the best but I've no idea where that is.

Argh, I signed up for the Plan B messageboard under my krautrock name, and very clearly freaking Bumlove doesn't know it's me, and so is retreading the old boring indie = good, mainstream = bad crap and blaming it on "marketing" again.

It is so hard not to just answer him with YOU ARE AN IDIOT in 24 point purple letters. I refuse to get into a battle of the wits with an unarmed man.

Kate, where can I see the ones you are selling? Could I just send you some money???

Wait, what do you want to buy? Posters? 7"s? I'm confused! Email me. Yes, you can always just send me some money, people just keep telling me that it's easier to use paypal.

I have one Lollies 7", but it is mine and I am keeping it. You can all come round to my house and listen to it if you like.

I would like to have mp3s of some Shimuras stuff, I've listened a couple of times on myspace but their player is quite annoying.

Paypal is quite easy, but they charge. It's comparable to how much shops have to pay credcard companies for the facility. Naturally, Cheques/PO's are less costly, but Paypal has the benefit of being easy for buyers to 'impulse' buy stuff.

Oh, and don't forget about "sticky and brown" on the ILXVol3!

yeah, myspace sucks
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Alright, alright, I'll wrap up the rough mixes of the Shimuras album and cookie it. Maybe. I still have to figure out if I'm ready to let go of it yet or not.

I tried setting up a paypal account before, but it would never let me do it. I suppose I could try with a different email address, but I'm just suspicious of the whole thing now.

Oh, I need lunch.

Everyone should listen to SAHB instead!

Would've loved to see Alex Harvey. I don't fancy going to see the SAHB that tours now with an ex shamen guy on vocals.
hehe.

yay for shimura curves cookies!

Tom I don't suppose you would've been old enough to see the SAHB would you?

I keep thinking you are saying SHB, which is a very, very old crush indeed.

Discovery of last night: when there is no cigarette smoke to cover up the smell, some DDBs STINK. There comes a point where they stop smelling nice and just start smelling "FOR GODS SAKE TAKE A BATH!" like you might have to delouse them.

Not Dean, though, he had just washed his hair and was looking very fluffy, like a little chickadee. I kept hugging him because he was so soft and fluffy. I think he was too stoned to take it the wrong way. Some boys, you don't actually want to sleep with them, you just want to cuddle them like a stuffed animal. He's a bit too boney for that, really, but I like when his hair is soft and fluffy.

I downloaded SAHB! I won't get chance to listen to it til next week now though.

I have got to stop saying these kinds of things. No wonder people think I'm insane. Sigh. I've just had carrot cake, it's making my mind go funny.

I have just made some tea. Mmmmm, tea, this will help counteract the effects of the carrot cake. I'm so lucky, my send-me-off-into-the-stratosphear druX0rs are perfectly legal. tea and carrot cake, and i'm on the moon. Mmmm, the moon....

We haven't had a DDB for the day yet, have we? Here is today's DDTeapot.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1262/1257440014_b470497aaf_o.jpg

Yeah, the Asteroid No. 4, that's gonna make me feel less hyper and less drugged, YEAH. Bad choice. and by that I mean GOOD CHOICE. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah yeah yeah la la laa la.

BT can fuck right off.

BT as in phone BT?

This is why I don't have a landline.

Yep. Fuckers.

I don't have a landline either.

Yeah, neither do I. EVEN THOUGH I SORTED IT OUT LAST FCKING WEEK. IT WAS DONE. AND NOW, NO FCKING PHONE WORKY.

(Sorry.)

'SOK. I'm bouncing around to the Asteroid No.4 so nothing can bring me down. Oh yeah. (They are the campfire DDBs from the other thread.)

OK, it's nap time. I have got to keep going or I won't make it out tonight. More tea, or a nap under my desk? Forgot about the bad, bad carrot cake comedown.

I am not going to make it through the afternoon. Someone please suggest something to wake me up or I'm not going to make it to Sande's gig tonight.

Listen to SAHB! (or look at more DDB's)

I have run out of DDBs to look at. And I don't want to listen to SAHB, I don't like the idea of them. I am listening to the Cush at the moment. Or would be if I wasn't getting wound up by Bumlove on another forum. Step away from the internet... step away from the internet. Quick someone post a picture of a DDB.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1176/1250687986_7f0fe63927.jpg

Oh, much better. Dean's hair is like the ultimate stress reducing toy. I just think about it and go all "aaaahhh, fluffy bunnies, kittens, life is good."

That's like those pictures that play with perspective!

THE DRUMMER IS SINGING! But NO He can't be!

That's Ricky from the BJM. I think the Koolaids were the only band the whole weekend that he *didn't* sing with. I do like the clever perspective, though.

But mainly I just look at the pretty guitars. Oh yeah, and the hair.

Ha ha, a new online friend just totally demolished Bumlove in two paragraphs. Love!

K: Found an ebay for that CD you mentioned. See wattrGoog.

http://i21.ebayimg.com/05/i/07/58/e5/69_1_b.JPG

uh, was tryin to be subtle!

Whoa, that's not an original case. I hope it's not bootlegged. eBay is blocked at work, so I can't see how much it's going for (50p!?!? that's about as much as it's worth) but you might be able to get it here...

http://www.fortuneandglory.co.uk/index.htm?content/bandPages/lollies.htm~mainFrame

The other one is way better if you can find it - Bang! Bang! Bang! Lookout, Lookout, Lookout!

It's buy-it-now price is £2.99

There's no other info apart from all the terms and conditions of the seller etc.

Huh. That's not a bad price, I just wonder who's selling it - the record company or what. Because we were never able to squeak any more copies of it out of them at any price! If there's cutouts going, I wants some.

The place is called "Priceless Music" and seem bonafide.

Just went through some of their feedback items (3000 + to the good)

39p for a Bright Eyes single!

Priceless Music is UK based, supplying both vinyl & cd's. Specializing in 80's Vinyl. Combining quality products with a fast, efficient & friendly service. ** NEW Bargain Basement & Vinyl to CD service ** Sensible Offers welcome on most items

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Nope that's blocked as being eBay, too. Bah. I will never know. Well, not until 6pm tonight, anyway.

Enough about the past, though. More about the future! DDBs!

Damn, I've missed the post, haven't I? Those posters are not going to make it out today.

some post offices have a late collection between 6.30-7.30

I'm too tired to talk to the post office. I'm assuming the nearest late delivery would be Mount Pleasant and I don't know that I have the energy to walk to City Thameslink. ANd man, I'd have to pick up supper on the way home. What should I eat? I don't fancy anything, really. But if I walk in Sainsburys without deciding what to eat, I'll end up just getting crap.

Wow, that demo I got given last night isn't bad, actually. Some guy just came up to me as I got up from the door table, and was all "this is my kid's band, have a listen." I was all "yeah, right..." but it's not bad at all so far. Just weird; I would be totally embarrassed to have my dad give out demos at a club.

Even weirder to think that the original generation of shoegazers have kids old enough to be in shoegaze bands now... yikes.

OK, except it was all instrumental up until now, and now the guy has started singing, it's very obvious from the utterly dire lyrics that he's no more than about 16. Oh well.

YESSSSSS!!! Lydia from Sweet Jane got a picture of the tea cosy hat!

http://a620.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/104/l_051f83e0599364aeffd929f23f8565eb.jpg

I wish Aislinn Asteroid wasn't wearing that coat, so you could see her amazing paisley dresses. It's like a great "ladies of dronerock" pic. Since D insisted Dean looked like a little old lady with the tea cosy on his head. Especially when he was wearing that Indian dress thing. (I kid, I kid, I thought he looked totally hott, but D was doubtful.)

Oh my god, best gig poster, ever - I wish I'd thought of this!

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5340/pedalpu6.jpg

Don't talk... rest your head on my shoulder....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/ladygrunge/0004531T.500.jpg

Sorry for the picture spamming, but I want to be able to look at them while MySpace is offlimits.

Good morning! I feel like I just left here. Wait, I did just leave here.

I have caused a real concernation in the office this morning because I saw AN MOUSE last night. A really big one, too.

How is everyone today? It's Friday, please don't let it be slow coz everyone's on holiday. Or busy coz they're covering for people on holiday.

Good morning Kate! Ooh an mouse in the office, what are you gonna do?

I'm SHOCKED to read upthread that you actually want to turn DDBs into CDBs! :0

They're calling in the exterminators. I think that's kind of awful, I'd prefer something humane, but mice in the office? You just can't have it. And it's not like you can get a cat.

I don't want them to be *too* clean. I just want them not to smell quite like tramps.

and I've been reading T.C. Lethbridge... I really really want to do something special for bonfire night this year. Not even just a party or a gig but I want to BURN THINGS. And maybe some megalith hunting.

Ah, and now for another round of being misunderstood on ILX today. Fantastic.

I'm settling in for the (3? 4? More???) hours on hold with bt. Of course I can't call from our landline, because the reason I'm calling is 'cause they've cut off our landline. I've been calling from my mobile, but our signal strength here is totally variable, and yesterday I was on hold for a half an hour before the phone cut out urrgh. So today I'm just gonna sit on skype and hope the internets don't cut out.

Well, if you still have the internets, that's something at least?

God, this just reminds me why I don't have a landline. How can BT be so utterly useless and still stay in business? It amazes me.

I think it's time to start the morning tea drip.

It *is* amazing. Yesterday I did a google on the number I have to call, to see the hours it's open for, and I came across oodles and oodles of blog comments and msg board posts of people with horror stories of waiting for hours and hours just to speak to someone to sort out the simplest of problems.

(Someone just picked up! And has transferred me to "the correct department." So now I'm in another queue.)

How can they get away with this kind of incompetence? It's kind of amazing.

My little brother's blog about his experience conducting a study of adolescents and depression in Beijing: it's pretty fascinating.

Wow, that is cool. And wow, yr whole family is that skinny! Bottle and sell yr genetics.

You should see my mom.

She hasn't got a blog?

Haha, I'm waiting for my mum to get a blog! She has a mailing list for her church, but I'm the blog is coming soon. (Except she would have to do it under a pseudonym or she wouldn't be able to hide her ranting from The Bishop.)

She's just getting the hang of email; give her a couple years. xpost

My mum's fighting a losing battle with mobile phones at the moment, so I think the blog is some time off

Good lord, I'm downloading things and forgetting I've done it, I've got a backlog now! I'll listen to The Cush while I try to find them.

I'm waiting for my mum to discover MySpace, I think she'll get a Flickr soon since my bro got one. I'm surprised my dad doesn't have a MySpace, though!

I've just asked him if he has one, and told him to get one if he doesn't.

Oh you fuckers. I was finally speaking to someone when the call cut off! I just gave you my mobile number! Why wouldn't you call me back! You were in the process of trying to fix my problem; what, the line goes down so you just move on to the next caller????!?!! WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE???

Oh extreme ironing!

"Hey it's not our fault the line was cut off! Um wait."

ARGH, the idiots! Utter idiots!

However, ha ha, I just got in trouble on MySpace, I slagged off Rog's questionable taste in shorts on my blog, and he was caught me out, ha ha, oops.

I guess Goobs must have got his phone sorted? He's not been back here complaining about it.

Sleeeeepy. I need tea. And then to meet with my boss.

...who is not at her desk at the appointed time!

Hi dere, I have been pub. And I am listening to Yeti by Amon Duul II which I think might now be my favourite krautrock album.

You are not supposed to be pubbing!

Found tea. Found boss. Had meeting. Short and to the point, the way I like them. Now I shall listen to the Ladbroke Grove comp!

Naw I'm allowed now!! I even met Babs halfway through pubbing (she only gets 30 mins lunch, so I had a quick pint then went to meet her at 1:30, then decided I had time for another 1 afterwards, which turned into 2).

Now I shall listen to the Ladbroke Grove comp!

Eh? Wozzon'at? Quintessence? Mighty Baby? Sam Gopal's Dream?

All those things, plus the Pretty Things and Twink and Tomorrow and The Misunderstood and the Village and the like. (The like meaning, more of the same, not, like the band The Like.)

A lot of it is stuff I know from Nuggets/Pebbles and Electric Sugarcube Flashbacks and the like, but nice to have it all in context.

Wow, I was just guessing an' all! Quintessence are terrible tho, surely?

Haven't go there yet, I'm still enjoying Defecting Grey right now.

Can't go wrong there

Just really makes me wanna go get all my Electric Sugarcube Flashbacks volumes whatever out of storage at my mum's house. But then again, I'd have to actually get a turntable then.

Kerr can probably supply you with the mp3s!

You can pick up a 2nd hand turntable from Cash Converters for not much. I got a Technics one for £50 that did me fine for a few years until it fell on the floor and broke.

£20 to get only Volume 3 on the net! Wow! And Chocolate Soup or whatever the other comp was called. Want! Or rather, want back! This record shop around the corner from where I worked went bust when I was about 19, and I picked up as many of them as I could afford. I didn't even know what half of them were, I just liked the covers.

I've got all 20 volumes of Rubble on my iPod, as we speak! It's mostly rubbish but nonetheless...

Now I shall listen to the Ladbroke Grove comp!

Eh? Wozzon'at? Quintessence? Mighty Baby? Sam Gopal's Dream?

Now, where is disc 2, that's what I want to know. </ingrate>

I have trouble keeping up with all these cookies flying around

Yeah, by the time they got from Nuggets down to Pebbles down to Rubble there wasn't much good left.

But the Electric Sugarcube Flashback comps were mostly UK freakbeat and that kind of cusp where the British Invasion stuff started to go all flower power, but before they turned into wibbling hippies. It's my absolute favourite era garage/psych.

There's plenty of good stuff on Rubble, just not enough to fill 20 albums!

I used to have that Sam Gopal album w/Lemmy on it. It was actually pretty OK for the most part.

I listened to Steely Dan all last night and now I fancy listening to SAHB again

Oh noooo... I am NOT going to start getting into the Bomp mail order site...

http://www.bompstore.com/servlet/Detail?no=4591

WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT

I remember the Sands track was really good - I think that was the Sky Pilot take-off track with the WWI mid air battle in the middle of the guitar solo... I think? It's all a bit hazy, my youth.

hello. am feeling like absolute arse. was the same yesterday :( is lucky as am v busy today so that helps but still keep having to run off and calm self down between bouts of phonecalls. nothing is the matter, which makes it even more irritating. i looked on biorhythms site and my emotional cycle was at rock bottom yesterday OMGZ BIORHYTHMS MUST BE TRUE! i think i just want a touch of someone else's skin. but i'm too scared to ask anyone for a hug in case it properly opens the floodgates. please, someone, make me laugh?

GIRLS IN THE GARAGE VOLUMES 1 THROUGH 11... OH GOD, I ONLY HAD UP TO VOLUME 4... AAAAHHHH... WANT WANT WANT WANT

::explodes::

oh noes, Emsk, are you alright? If I were there I would give you big hugs, can I send you a virtual one? All I can do is post you silly 60s psych albums with bands with names like the East Wopping Boggit and Rodent Carpet Extermination Company.

Oh christ I'm on the Bomp mail order emailing list and it makes me want to spend all the money I don't have every time I get one. They are super good at getting stuff out fast and cheap when I have ordered from them.

Mr Bomp is dead tho, isn't he? :(

I'M SUPPOSED TO BE SAVING MONEY THIS MONTH BECAUSE I JUST BOUGHT A NEW PEDAL *AND* A WEEKEND IN THE COUNTRY... OH NOES....

x-post yes, Greg. He was friends with many of us here, he is missed.

Oh man, that's not cheerful

hehe you made me do a weak smile anyway which is better than what i was doing before. ARGH! my horoscope basically says "you're gonna have a shit day, grin and bear it" too. bizarro...

The stereo split on Tomorrow is doing my head in. Seriously. I keep thinking my headphones are broken until someone starts wibbling crazy shit in the left ear again.

Um, should I tell you brown and sticky jokes for an hour to cheer you up?

Oh wait, we made up a new one for what's brown in Bradfield but I have forgotten what it is.

i'm going to go away and confirm some shows, i can do that without having to concentrate or sound exuberant

Tom > is The Penthouse Tapes any good?

Never heard it. The later stuff is rubbish for the most part.

I only know Framed, Next , The Impossible Dream.

"Tomorrow Belongs to Me" is pretty good...

"Here this, the tale of the Giant Stoneaturrrrrrr..."

HA HA, Billy the Monster is possibly the greatest song yet. I can't believe I've never heard it before, it's insane.

billy... THE MONSTAH!!! billy... THE MONSTAH!!!

jeez http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6972548.stm

ow!

Better get bars on his windows in future.

anyone around still?

I had to do some work, but I'm still here.

I'm just waiting around til MySpace comes back on so I can hassle some DDBs.

When does it come back on?

18:00 ... and the rest of my office is leaving right now.

omg.
did a littel cry, had a little moan w a who is also feeling shit, went for a wander, ate some icecream, feel BETTAH...

Sometimes when you feel rubbish, the best thing to do is have a little cry. It releases hormones in your brain and makes you feel better, seriously. Glad you feel better.

I think The Deviants are my favourite thing on this album. Need to find more...

Ha ha, indeed, I have their 1st two albums, almost posted 'em to the Watercooler

Cookie those babies up!

Which reminds me, I need to grab that Asteroid#4 cookie.

Tom!! Have you heard the SAHB live UK tour 76 album? There's a version of Framed with Alex as Hitler. It's hilarious.

I is a goin' home. Have a good weekend, all.

It's been cookied!

bye kate!

Should employees be allowed to use social networks in the office?

helium kidz, i am back

first facebook and now (more upsettingly) argh! they have blocked flickr at my office (under the same general page as inappropriate content). wtf?

a little worried about how much longer ilx will last...

I found about a dozen snails in my frigging kitchen this morning, after having poured a massive amount of snail poison. URGH!!!! I feel so dirty!!!

Or slugs. Don't know how you call these things. I know you guys explained it to me. I don't care. What's in a name, right? Urgh.

snails has shells

But I read they can loose'em?!? Maybe they left it beneath the sink? :-) So slugs it is. Urgh. They said on the news there was a plague. I ph34r the plague is centered in our kitchen. :-((((((

Haven't pissed off any old testament prophets lately, have you?

slugs melt if you put salt on them

haha Ed, who knows!

Yes, Mitya, my husband showed this trick and the slug poison must contain salt as well since a few burst open. Ek.

I feel like a dirty housewife. :-(

are we leading into a porn movie here or something? (i think that's the only context in which i can imagine the phrase 'dirty housewife')

Pet fish died at the weekend. RIP wriggly, you were a good little panda garra. I was going to chuck it in the bin, but Adam wanted to bury it at the allotment. Poor little kid was heartbroken. It was a pretty cute little thing I must admit.

I'm bored out of my fucking mind and have a headache.

:( deadfish

fish are better when they're alive and wriggly; this is why i do not eat them.

i spent all day saturday and all day sunday tidying my bedroom... MAMMOTH task as i haven't been home apart from to sleep, shower and scatter cds, books, clothes, bits of paper, wristbands, tickets and magazines all over the floor for like 4 months

also fixing bike, v satisfying

and omg hott new laptop...

k8 are you coming to monday club. on wednesday? true, they are at hipster-central the old blue last, but ohwell... i think they are on first so it should be escapey if you need to.

also SONICK YOUTHS on saturday ahh ahh omg omg. and i got given a copy of the new thurston album which is... very tuneful and gentle... have been playing it all yesterday

Morning! Monthend, argh. Feeling very flustered. But MySpazz is busy at the mo, all these people reappearing out of the woodwork from the old BJM gang! Wow! I can't believe that people actually remember me. But they remember the drawings, and that I was the only person who actually called Anton on his bullshit, and argued with him and actually freaked him out instead of kissing his ass. Ah, the good old days. No, they were RUBBITCH, what am I talking about?

Oh no, Mitya - I couldn't live without Flickr. They can take MySpcae, but if they touch ILX, I'm gone... I was called by a headhunter this morning, but told them I had a job. Duh.

Slugs, argh! Dead fish, argh! New laptop, yay! Sure, I'll go see Monday Club, yay.

Anything else? I don't know. Confusement.

Where's Ailsa, is she still moving? Damn, it's dull with no one to argue with. ;-)

so, let's talk about work crushes, shall we?

You have a work crush now? I am oddly crushless. The last one was kind of ruined by too many pics of him with, like, teenage groupies. Oh well.

But on the other hand, who on earth are these 8 people who want to "fuk" me and why do they exist on the interweb, and not in real life?

More photos from the Dream Machine... I feel like Joseph and the Amazing Technicolour Dreamcoat next to all that black leather...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1173/1294362899_86e9afefd5_o.jpg

Arrrgh. Driving backwards and forwards to romford.

Think of your carbon footprint!!!!

Should I put my posters on this:

http://www.gigposters.com/index.php

Seems like an easier way to sell them than flogging them via MySpace.

1. Blonde girl who works in the next department over, who always kind of stands out in the crowd for me. Cute but sexy. Finally managed to talk to her a bit in an unobtrusive way last week. Don't know her well (and she's probably, um, 12 years younger than me). Her department is being downsized is likely to leave the company within the next few months, or be transferred elsewhere in the building. (Pretext for further chatting!) Let's call her, um, "Masha."

2. Woman who is I guess nominally a colleague, although she works on a different part of the floor. Although we have talked a bit over the last few months, I actually spent some extended time with her (albeit not alone) during our offsite and suddenly find myself test-imagining us cuddled on the couch reading the sunday paper after a really good post-coital brunch. Personality seems quite "sympathetic" to me, as they say here, although at this point I remain convinced that I absolutely fail to correspond to expectations of Russian women. Age parameter more appropriate, by my standards anyway (7 years). Downside 1: smokes like a chimney (previously a non-starter for me) Downside 2: best friends with head of dept, who... well, i can't say she dislikes me per se, but i am competition of sorts for her protege. so if things go wrong, it's not just potential work awkwardness to worry about, it's vengeful response of nominal boss' best girlfriend. Let's call her "Lena."

What's wrong with going out with women yr own age?

I mean, seriously?

I don't mean to belittle yr crushes or anything, but this winds me up. I mean, we've been having goes at Ampy for going out with much younger men, and she says "I DO want to go out with someone my own age, but where are they? Men my age want to go out with 25 year olds."

So it seriously depresses me. :-(

(This may be a reaction to the teenage groupie type photos.)

What's wrong with older blokes then?

I would want to go out with someone my own age, who has the same cultural and temporal reference points as myself.

http://www.studio52.gr/info_en.asp?infoID=000004f4

^ this record is beautiful

1. Setting aside the issue of choice, I meet very, very few people.

2. I prefer not to date a) married women (and, to be completely honest, b) divorced/separated women looking for a father for their child(ren).) People here marry fairly young: if you're an unmarried 27yo F, you're already looked at with some degree of pity.

3. (Continuing the honest theme) In some ways, I'm one of those arrested development types - frankly I'd be concerned that even the older of the two wouldn't have the patience for my BS.

Unfortunately no one here has the same cultural reference points as me, which is actually quite a big issue. And actually, in this sense, someone younger makes more sense, because we would be more likely - all other things equal - to find common cultural ground.

My work crush is absent today, I suspect he was at the connect festival, lucky bugger. He's five years younger than me.

I'm just gonna email Amp and tell her she's got the right idea, that she should just carry on dating younger men, in fact, does she have any 20 year olds that she can hook me up with?

Because if "I'm too immature to date women my own age" is an excuse for men, then it's fine for women, too.

Sorry, I'm not picking on you, specifically, Mitya, but you've hit a nerve today.

Record is out of stock, Gareth. What does it sound like?

That mp3 blog I mentioned to you in June, I forgot to email you about it. It's here:

http://vitaphone.blogspot.com/

if you're an unmarried 27yo F, you're already looked at with some degree of pity.

*sigh*. I was 30 yrs old. Now this is not frowned upon, but it's not that young anymore either. It all depends from what "social class" you are maybe? I personally couldn't be arsed to care (what otherts think). It completely freaks me out though, that I have people coming in YOUNGER THAN ME,sometimes by a DECADE, who sell their wedding bands. I feel much better cause at that age I wasn't divorced. :-) Nor married but I ignore that fact. ;-)

I used to (almost) exclusively date younger guys.Not by choice, it just happened that way. So I had this reflex that I expected every guy to be younger. haha To my husband:"Uh, I think I have to tell you something... I think I'm a bit older than you are." He practically roffled all the way outside the cafe. "No, I don't think so actually." hahaha

I used to always go for significantly older men but after a very annoying episode with a 47 year old at the beginning of the year i'm done with oldsters.

When i was younger I might have expected to be settled down with a hubby and kids by my age (32) but i can't say being single bothers me that much except for the lack of sex and help with DIY.

i think its from the 70s, its got lots of clarinet and is quite rich sounding, itd be good for drinking

How on earth do you think I feel, at my age? I actually found myself saying to my mum, without a hint of irony, as refering to myself as "post marriageable age". ARGH! What evil creature took over my mind and made me say that?

I don't even particularly want to get married any more - but, talking to a couple of girls at the festival who were the same age as me, a girl a bit older than me was saying "I don't want a boyfriend, but good lord, sometimes I just want to get *laid*" (she hooked up with a 22 year old at the festival.)

I mean, that's one of the things I like about that scene, that it's got a good proportion of people my age, it's not all kids. But the men the same age as us? Running around with 20 year olds.

I feel like a broken record. It's sad that I'm still able to beat myself up over this.

Why am I suddenly in a bad mood after being in a good mood for ages? Must be monthend. :-(

that site looks good norman, i'll be checking that out when i get home. i found a site with lots of interwar baseball songs on it too, that looks good

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No problem. Although I would note that the weighting on those three points was not at all equal. I really only mention the third because I'm neurotic after too many exchanges with younger women who clearly can't even seriously imagine me as a potential partner. Part of that may be maturity, and part of it is the very un-romantic approach most Russian/Muscovite women seem to have: considerations about what standard of living a boyfriend offers start a heck of a lot sooner than I've been raised to expect.

never really understood the whole getting married thing

lack of sex and help with DIY.

I think dildos are meant to be used on your own. Sorry. ;-)

I don't even know what I want any more. I keep joking that I want an indigant DDB to support, but honestly... what I want is equality, partnership, to be understood and accepted - that kind of thing just seems like it would be a lot easier to achieve with someone closer to mine own age, but maybe I'm expecting too much.

It's just frustrating, when you finally meet people who *are* what you think a suitable age or range of interests, and clearly you're not up to *their* standards.

I mean, any musician who doesn't have a girlfriend, honestly, it's because they don't want one, or there's something totally terribly wrong with them, such as a drug habit or being a wifebeater or something. Sour grapes, sour grapes. It doesn't help to look in the mirror when you're facing mockery from assholes.

It's one of the best sites I've found, I've had hours of enjoyment from the music I've downloaded off it. The picks from it for me are the Jazz party soundtrack from Colleen Moore's "Why be Good", a test radio broadcast by Rose Marie, and "The Song of the Gold Diggers" from "Gold Diggers of Broadway". The guy's commentary is v v interesting as well, I see a whole bunch of mp3 blogs where the guys are kind of egotistical about the stuff they present, this guy isn't like that at all. Interwar baseball songs sounds curious, do you have a link for that one?

Are you guys doing this deliberately?

Fuck it, I want to find a bonfire or something.

the same cultural and temporal reference points as myself

Kinda overrated IMO, and perhaps restrictive?

Well, you don;t get married and talk about Echo and the Bunnymen all night, right?

(Not that that's what Kate was saying)

Who am I kidding? It's all sour grapes. The truth is, that I'm a truly unlovable person, and it doesn't matter what my standards are or aren't, because no one has ever, or will ever actually love me.

End of story, let's talk about T.C. Lethbridge instead. I want to go megalith hunting again soon.

Hmm, and here I was thinking we might talk about my crushes a bit :(

Kate, I haven't dated anyone for nearly 10 years.

Sorry, Mitya, feel free to talk about your crushes.

I'm just feeling tender at the moment. It's somehow OK to admit that you're feeling horny, but not OK to admit that you're feeling lonely.

I'll shut up now.

ah, didnt mean to give that impression...i usually only post to this thread when i've found some record or other, so don't always get the tone right.

or rather, read it right

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wiltshire/6976158.stm

That's not THE Stephen Strange is it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Strange";>nope, he's 48

Teach people not to use sunbeds! What are they thinking, anyway?

That said, I kinda have a tan at the moment, after the Dream Machine.

Oh, is there any way to make this afternoon go faster? But that means I have to do monthend quicker. I cannot believe I forgot to bring chocolate to work.

Good afternoon.

I just listened to Je Suis Animal - I like! Did you manage to download Asteroid #4 in the end? It worked when I tried it.

No, I'll give it another try. I was just listening to the album I bought.

OK, it didn't like the #, but I renamed the file and now it's d/l.

Oh, I should know better than to go on Guardian threads. I cannot take the bitterness. I need some more tea.

I wonder if my boss is actually going to bring me back chocolate. I did ask, but I was kind of joking, but then she said "dark or light?" and I was all "DARK PLEASE!!!!" so maybe I will get chockers.

Someone has just reminded me. It is autumn. This should make me happy. I was noticing on the train this morning, that all the trees were starting to be slightly different colours. And the mad vine thing that I really liked the leaves of has sprung out in all fuzzy white feelers! I like the chill in the air.

I am listening to David Bowie today. That reminds me I haven't checked the cooler charts yet.

xpost

i do, too, although i am still feeling kind of cheated by the complete effing absence of summer.

haha I must be psychic. Bowie is joint 1st this Week on the watercooler chart
Nath's 3 accounts have got dEUS up there too..

YES SHE GOT ME CHOCOLATE, LIFE IS GOOD.

I hate summer, so I'm kind of glad there wasn't much of one. Much happier to just fast forward to Autumn.

It's the last hour of the day before Monthend starts that drives me buggy... can't start anything else because I won't be able to finish it. And the minutes tick by SOOOO SLOOWWWLY until I can get to work.

You need cookies

I am d/l Anton's cookies. I'm scared.

Argh, m4a files, argh.

OK, the first two songs I listened to were... uuhhh, wibbling rubbitch.

But the third one is really really interesting so far. Maybe because of the weird electronic wub/drone noise in the background. Or maybe because (so far) it's instrumental.

Wait all afternoon for MySpace to come back on, and then it's boring when it does! Bah! All the action was at the w/e. Ah, but more orders for the Peaclock poster, which is cool.

Why do people rip stuff in m4a?

Isn't it default iTunes setting or something?

yes, but it's easy to change. part of the "argument" though is that a 128kbps m4a is supposed to be higher quality but smaller in size than a 128kpbs mp3.

I think the director has gone home... does that mean it's safe to eat SMELLY CURRY at my desk? What do you think? I'm starving, but don't want to take time out and go all the way over to the breakout area to eat or I'll be here all night.

who'll ever know?

THEY WILL FIND OUT AND SHOUT AT ME SOMEHOW!!!

OK, the cleaner is their spy and will tell them. Before she left, my boss told me to get a taxi home to sidestep the tube issue, not realising that I get the overground anyway. I wonder if there will be cabs for love or money tonight...?

Hey, can someone who knows how to do this sort of thing please make this the logo for the Watercooler Cookies list?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/jcoombs/cookie1.jpg

Ken C is the photoshop maestro

Nothing to do with photoshop - can't you take that image and make it the avatar or whatever for the cookies list?

I'd know how to do it in Yahoogroups, I just don't understand Googlegroups.

God, I am turning into my own mum. By "don't understand" I really mean "I cannot be bothered to learn how to do". Tsk tsk.

Ahh ok, it's done.

When I went to use winzip, it came up saying my free trial had expired and I have to pay. Sod that.
So unless someone else gives me a simple way to zip files now, then it will have to be rar files from now on.

What are you using to make rar files? WinRAR can make zips as well.

Ahh ok. I just realised you can changed the settings from the default rar to zip. Thanks colonel poo!

I learn something new(that everyone else all knows) every day!

spoke to the IT people about flickr. according to their criteria (some system checks the site) it has the third and lowest security grade and therefore should be blocked unless you submit a specific business-related request to temporarily unblock the site.

kind of shocking, given that it's essentially yahoo. if they'd said, oh you have no reason to goof around on that site, i might've understood, but security!?

it's also clear that they are (now, if they weren't before) more actively monitoring what sites people visit and (systematically) blocking them (they took down facebook a couple of weeks ago).

the long and short being, if i disappear, one guess why... :(

Can you get online at home yet?

Morning all. I am actually at my desk today.

morning! ir getting lurgee i fear...

I watched this again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcgzKrDYc1M

i didn't know you had a desk, ed.

kerr, yes, at home i am 100% online (i think). unfortunately there is probably not much more than an hour a day that i am at home and not a) in the bathroom or b) in bed.

Bah, the day my work discovers ILX, is the day I quit my job. They're more concerned about bandwidth rather than security, and ILX being fairly low (mostly text based) I think I'm OK. Also, I believe I'm the only person in the company that uses it. It's not like Facebook or Photobucket which everyone is on all the time.

Don't disappear, Mitya!

Hi guys. Still no phone :( Must write final chapter by Sunday, not at all sure how that's going to happen.

Make a pot of esspresso. Yup, a whole pot. Sit down at work processor. Start drinking. Do not stop drinking espresso or typing until it is done.

None of my bandmates are returning my emails any more. I want a new band.

And I've just been stood up for dinner tonight. >:-(

Hello hello. Am back, and very tired. Amazing weekend, though - the wedding was awesome, and we managed to take in a jaunt to St Ives, a gig at the Cube, museums and record shopping on our way home...

I'll be in yr new band, Kate.

Awesome, Emil.y! When can we get together and play?

Your weekend sounds like fun. I want to go St.Ives.

I want to go St.Ives

This is a riddle or sumthin', innit?

And meet a man with 40 wives?

I was trying to remember that riddle, but couldn't quite get it right. Is it wives, kids, sacks, cats? I was sure there was kittens somewhere, too. Also, I disagree with the assumption in end, as you don't have to be going the opposite way in order to meet someone in the road. Especially when they have so much stuff - you'd be walking much faster than them, so falling into step as you all head the same way is totally possible.

There were kittens, yes, argh, it's all about chaos theory or complexity or something, the exponential increase of smaller and smaller quanities. Like a sipieriskie (sp?) sponge.

Man, 7 Wives, 7 Sacks (49 sacks), 7 Cats (343), 7 Kits (2401)

I'm still reeling from the lack of sleep at the weekend. Bastard third floor neighbours crashed in at 2am and then proceeded to play loud, bad music till gone 5. Banged on their door for 5 minutes but no answer. I rang the police (999) they told me to ring the council, but gave me the daytime number, tried to sleep rang the local station (wrong one as it happened), they said they would send round a car but then decided it was out of their area and gave me the number for my local police station, they said they couldn't deal with noise and to ring environmental health for which they gave me the out of hours number, but it had gone 4am by then and they had closed at 4. Sunday totally written off. It's not the first time either. I've written to their landlord about them. (Also I have found out where the main circuit breaker for their flat is).

Fucking coked up rich arseholes.

Sunday, flat 2 had a party, but they came and asked, and turned the music down at 11 which was fine and reasonable but after not having slept on Saturday was more than I needed.

3 slugs this morning. hoorah. hopefully none tomorrow?

Bah, that sucks, Ed. Flick the circuit breaker if they ever try it again. That is the problem with council noise nuisance lines - only open during the day, when noise is mainly a problem at night.

SO pissed off we only found it in the morning.

Lots of new people in my street and I don't like (the look of) any of them.

Now if only I could find the one for the bad neighbours round the back of my flat...

That said, they generally end at a reasonable hour. It's just irritating when I'm trying to do some recording.

Ugh, that's awful, Ed. I have the feeling we're the new bad neighbors in our building.

Ha ha, are you lowering the tone of the neighbourhood?

I feel invaded by suburbanites who look like james blunt or rugger buggers coming for their edgy london lifestyle.

We're trying! xpost

Ah now, Ed, don't be classist!

nothing personal, ed, but i think this whole desk thing isn't working for you at all. ;)

I made cookies last night mmmmmmmm--and have eaten 5 since midnight. How much is too much?

Nope, crankiness getting worse. Maybe cookies would help. I'm going to eat some curry.

Kick their asses, Ed.

goobs, a cookie every three hours is well within the legal limit, as far as i know. your stomach knows what best for you.

My stomach does not know what's best for my figure. :-(

I ate my curry. It was num. I put lots of ginger in, because, well, I just bought a new bag of ginger powder. Discovered that there is indeed a shop that sells cheap Indian spices in my hood, so I don't have to go to Tooting. Even though I really enjoy going to Tooting.

Oh, I wish you hadn't put the idea of cookies in my head. Damn.

Sorry. They aren't *that* good.

I am pre menstral and just find the idea of any kind of sugar, fat or chocolate utterly irresistable. More tea, I guess.

tea w/honey

Nah, I don't take sugar in my tea. My life is so much better and my brain so much calmer when I don't have sugars. (Yes, honey counts as a sugar.)

OK, there's nothing else for it. I'm going to have to do the DREADED PIPELINE RECC!!!!

::hides under desk::

pipeline???

http://www.hickerphoto.com/data/media/30/alaska-pipeline_T2171.jpg
I used to be of the opinion that sugar only spoiled the flavour of coffee, but now I feel that it spoils the flavour of tea too.

there are lots of fine teas in Poland, both normal and herbal. I came back from Gdansk with loads of them including one called Melissa.

oddly enough, just before I left for Poland I got invited to be on the scientific committee of a conference in Gdansk next September. I am excited and slightly scared about this at the same time.

I wish it were that kind of pipeline, that would be exciting. And might contain James Bonds. Alas, it is a money pipeline.

I don't dislike the taste of sugar - and I have to have it in coffee - I just know that it has unpredictable effects on my mood.

Though Polish tea sounds interesting.

This 2nd Pink Fairies cookie is taking ages to up.

I even like the name for it - herbata!

Heh my weekly chart makes me look like an old fart this week.

Wow, herbata - that sounds like something DDBs would be in search of.

Camel? Jesus. Family? Hooray! (xp)

Or a Polish tea, perhaps. xpost

If anyone wants some Family cookies i can provide!
Camel had a few really good albums, Tom! (the early ones)

I am down on DDBs this week. But I am always all for tea.

This morning, I was so sleepy I put 2 teabags in my teacup by mistake. Maybe that's why I was so grinning and happy on the train.

What am I going to do for supper tonight? I was expecting to go out for supper so I didn't plan any real food.

London needs a DDB Escort Agency for Gentile Ladies.

Something with mushrooms in.

Magic?

Gentile ladies? What, can I order a Jewish DDB? My mum would have kittens.

(Then again, my mum thinks that I am going to marry any boy I mention twice.)

mmmm, mushrooms, I have to think if I have any. Actually I do! And courgettes! Maybe I will make a mushroom and courgette and rosemary omelette. If I can persuade the massive friendly spider to let me get at my rosemary bush.

I was thinking more along the lines of a stroganoff.

Pot Noodle?

Ramen Noodles!

That's far too complicated for me! x-post stroganoff, not pot noodle.

Oh! I have beans, too. I should put beans in my omelette.

I need to tidy my flat and dig out wherever the JAMC ticket has got to. Meeting up with Dream Machine people to go to that.

I was thinking about making a wild mushroom risotto tonight but will probably just settle for a cheese toastie and the remainder of my butternut squash and sweet potato homemade soup. I made a curry last night for my brother and i which was yummy, kind of made it up as i went along.

That's the best kind of curry, the made up kind.

I'm really enjoying The Deviants. They make me laugh.

Deviation Street is actually making me cry real tears of LOL. I want to force every rubbish BJM fan into a room and play it for them at deafening volume.

Is that the "This is really reproducing the acid experience, man" track?

It's the kind of cut-up bits of random with fake hippies shouting silly things in the background and then random sitar music and a very stoned voice announcing that the patterns in his wallpaper have just told him he has attained complete humanhood track.

So I guess, yeah.

Awesome track

I must catch up on some of this this evening.

It's all very very good, but still nothing as insane as BILLY THE MONSTER just yet.

Oh wait, Garbage is getting there.

Need to do the second CFTMG disk too

You'll be singing "Let's Loot the Supermarket" all the way home

There's *more* CFTMG? Good lord.

ENOUGH COOKIES, I CANNOT KEEP UP.

I still haven't listened to the rest of the Je Suis Animal album that they sent me. (Still no track listing, bless. Though it came in a very cool green crepe parcel!)

OK, this album just makes me want to take acid.

BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD.

THE NOTHING MAN, ARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHH...

OK, my head just melted. This is the best album ever.

I wonder if Tom will like Pink Fairies. Kate will love the track Do It I'm sure.

I am d/l but probably will not get a chance to listen to until tomorrow.

TOO MUCH MUUUUSSSIC.

Hello, I can't get to the New Answers page today, apparently where I am they have a p*rn rating, and the NAnspage gets too much.

I did create a thread about it, but of course now I can't see it!

The search page works though, so here I am.

I'm the only person who posted on that other thread, FWIW. I think it's the whole popularity contest thread that edged it over. Maybe.

Argh, why did I click the Ethiopean Food thread? Coz now I want to eat that. I just want to eat the world today.

Not one vote did I get!

Colour me relieved.

OK, see, I thought the whole thing was hilarious. But now, apparently, it's not funny, it's creepy.

Oh, I do not understand this humour thing.

Billy... THE MONSTER!!! Billy... THE MONSTER!!!

Guess what? It's not balancing. I wonder if it's late enough to go home without worrying about crazy tubestrike madness.

one must always worry about crazy tubesnake madness

omg the traffics. fucking hell! i would say GET ONE BIKE PEOPLES (or GET ONE BIKE EACH, even) but a lot of the peoples did get one bikes and they are SO FUCKING SLOW and ALL OVER THE ROAD and NOT SIGNALLING BEFORE TURNING and grr grr.

no you were right the first time Emsk, they should all ride togther on a huge great long tandem. With a LONG VEHICLE fluorescent sign on the back, natch.

Goddamn office crushboy is looking so fine, even if he is wearing pink.

Morning btw.

Omg traffic is right--just hustled K to victoria in a cab (she packed WAY too much, and at the last minute) so she could get gatwick express and then fly to M-n-. Nightmare, 'though our crafty cabby did get us there in time (he cut through covent garden). Victoria and northern lines actually fine in getting me back home.

I guess no-one realised the Victoria line was running this morning because it was completely empty and one of the most pleasant commutes I've had in weeks :P

Admittedly I didn't know it was running either, I was going to get the overland but the underpass to the Liverpool St platform goes via the tube station at Walthamstow Central!

Why didn't you get the cab to farringdon and put her on the Thameslink? (cheaper and probablty quicker on aggregate)

New to the neighborhood and unaware of these new-fangled 'thameslink' things.

But will do that myself when I go next friday.

crushgirl #2 has been coming by my desk in the morning to say hello, but it may just be to practice her english (or even worse, because she just happened to be coming this way :(.

no you were right the first time Emsk, they should all ride togther on a huge great long tandem. With a LONG VEHICLE fluorescent sign on the back, natch.

haha i LOVE this...

there was a guy yelling at me for being in his way because he jumped a red light and mine had gone green, wtf? no wonder ppl hate cyclists...

Sssssshhhhh!!! Don't tell people about the Thameslink, I want to keep it a secret so it doesn't get nasty crowded. Like it was last night when I went home. It was nice and empty again this morning, though.

Someone was painting by my desk and it smells vile,though.

I wish the crankiness would go. It seems to have settled in.

I'm still trying to make up my mind about the new BJM album. It's very... murky. Like the sound quality is just terrible, and I'm trying to work out if that's deliberate, or an artefact of poor MP3 compression or whatever.

I'm not sure about the beginning or the end, but there are some songs in the middle I think I really like. (Could be because they are mainly instrumentals based on loops.)

OK, I need some advice. I know this is the last place to ask, but I'm gonna ask anyway.

After being so enthuasiastic about doing stuff a few weeks ago, it seems like Dean has now stopped returning my texts/emails. (OK, two texts unanswered, one email saying "let's get together and make some music" unanswered.)

Do I just write it off as one more experience with a flakey musician, or do I kind of pursue it and go "hey, what's up? You seemed so keen."

Or should I just forget about the whole thing, because any potential goodness of music made is going to be overwhelmed by my utter inability to deal with men?

Ha ha ha ha, the only person who answered my ad so far is Will.

HA HA HA HA HA, he told me to play a REAL instrument.

How long ago did you send the e-mails, Kate? Maybe he's busy doing something else - away from e-mails, behind with texts etc. Some people don't get back right away (er, me, for example..) but haven't forgotten. They're 'getting round to it'. I'd leave it a few days and then see.

I'm thinking about outting a new band together too....

Outting?

Yes, outting, what of it? :)

Nothing wrong with that whatsoever.

He's on MySpace 24 hours a day! I can see his little "online now" light up. I had to take him off my top 8 coz it was bothering me. And no, this is really unlike him. When he was doing stuff with the Shimuras, he was answering back quite promptly. I think he's being weird.

Ah well, maybe I can play bass for Will, a ha ha ha ha.

Maybe the texts are unanswered because his phone is flat (I am *forever* forgetting to charge mine up), and maybe the "let's get together and make music" email was sufficiently casual for him not to think it required an instant reply.

If he's online now, why not send him a quick message, along the lines of "Boo! I can see you! I'm online too - fancy a natter?" and see if he responds to that.

Most of the time, when people aren't responding to you quickly enough or enthusiastically enough, it's not that they're ignoring you or have any sort of problem with you .... it's just that people can have other stuff going on in their lives which preoccupies them etc etc. Give him the benefit of the doubt :)

Maybe because that was because that was something specific i.e. a gig, rather than 'working together' which is a bit more open-ended. Maybe he's thinking about it? If it's going to happen it will....

I meant putting, but maybe I should do some outting too? Have you heard that rumour about The Village People. You'll never believe it!

If he's online now, why not send him a quick message, along the lines of "Boo! I can see you! I'm online too - fancy a natter?" and see if he responds to that.

Ohmigod, if someone did that to me, I'd think CREEPY CREEPY ARGH STALKER, MUST AVOID MUST AVOID.

If I haven't heard from him by Friday, I'll just say "poke! dude, you seemed so keen a few weeks ago, are you just busy or what?"

I was pretty specific. I did ask "do you want to get together this weekend or next?" but I guess that's too open ended for DDBs. Wait, we did have this problem when I was trying to get him to rehearse for the last gig. We exchanged endless text messages, and then I had to wait for him to call me back, and finally I just had to call him back... at 10pm that night.

Maybe I just want a solo project that's *easy* - not one more thing of me constantly having to round people up.

Do *you* need a bass player, Dr. C?

this reminds me a little bit of the moment when i realized that the overwhelming majority of my human contacts were through e-mail, to the extent that - and this is actually still somewhat true - that I got uncomfortable about/required extra preparation for talking on the phone or dealing with people in real life. at the same time, however, e-mail is a substantially different communication medium and it's just not good in some ways

in this context, maybe texts/emails/myspace poking whatever is the same thing and perhaps it takes an actual call to pin him (someone) down.

all that said, my basic advice is not to keep poking, etc. leave him alone for awhile and if you don't hear anything, then just call and be very straightforward and concrete about it, e.g. "Hey i think I'm ready to do some recording on Sunday, do you have time then?"

Ohmigod, if someone did that to me, I'd think CREEPY CREEPY ARGH STALKER, MUST AVOID MUST AVOID

Really? I think it's nice. If you did it constantly that would be creepy, but as it is it's fine.

I need a singer first - without that it won't happen. I need someone who can throw themselves into garage rock, psychpop, pubrock and punkiness with a bit of conviction. It's not going to be easy to find someone. I might need a bass player too. I know exactly what the band will sound like - really tight, stripped back and blistering live (hopefully). It'll probably just be guitar, bass and drums. If I could find someone to play organ (Vox or Farfisa or the like) I'd consider it. It won't be in any way *cool* or original, just fun!

Man, this is a good sandwich.

I HATE when people do that "I can see you online! talk to me!" thing because I usually feel so so guilty that I haven't answered their last email or whatever (usually because I've been busy chasing down someone else who isn't responding to theirs, ha ha.)

xpost see that's the sort of thing where I go "Hell, I could do that!" but ach, it's hard enough to round myself up to do my own solo project!

I must write more songs! (i.e. more than one)

Now I'm trying to book a gig for my friend Anton (not that Anton, the other one) at the Windmill. Cowboy Jim said he might be up for it, maybe see if Sande will do a set as well (especially if that will help arm twist her into getting onstage with us again.)

Anton, who I've met, and seen on stage with previous SC lineup and Sande?

Yes, that Anton. Synth boffin from NYC/Berlin.

Not the mad spacerocker from LA with the massive sideburns.

We are looking at the middle week of October.

Would this be SC as well?

Now I can obsess about Tim not answering my emails, because I know if he doesn't read it, it's because he's massively disorganised and suffers from IRISH HEAD OH NOES not because he HAAAAATES me.

yes, hopefully. I'm just booking gigs and seeing who else turns up. If you can't do it, I'll chase Dean. If Dean continues to flake out, I'll kidnap Diana and make her take her Rickenbacker out of the cupboard and get onstage.

I am currently not due to be anywhere then, if we can fix a date then I can try and make sure I am not.

(Diana could give here ricken backer to me)

I have been trying to learn to play silver machine. It looks dead simple on a guitar/bass, but sucks arse on the mandolin.

If we play Silver Machine, we're doing it without their crazy weirdass tuning coz we have no sax or flute.

detuning by a semitone is not wierdarse, it's just folk, but we can do without it.

It's a pain in the arse is what it is, all Dean's guitars are detuned a semitone. Maybe you or Lisa should try emailing him and saying DUDE YOU ARE OUR SPARE, COME PLAY WITH US which takes the weirdness away since it's coming from the rest of the band, and not me.

detuning by a semitone is not wierdarse, it's just folk, but we can do without it.

The Velvets used to do it. Lots of metal bands too.

I like having guitars that are interchangeable quickly with other guitars. Bearing in mind what happened at the last Shimuras gig, I am very down on crazy ass tunings.

I ONLY play in a crazy tuning these days!

Well, you're SACKED!

Oh wait, you're not in the band, are you?

Well, yr sacked anyway! Hah! ;-)

So that was lunch. Now I have to go to the post office. I'm feeling kinda manic. Too much tea.

Detuning = constant over-bending until I get used to it. Half a tone shouldn't make a lot of difference, but I notice it.

U2 tune a semitone down IIRC.

I like open tunings like wot Keef Ricards uses.

magnum double caramel. oh heaven!

i been having more weird dreams. after the creepy one on saturday (where i had a baby called sarah which was v quiet and well-behaved even when i was in the middle of some big kickass adventure) last night i had one that involved a traffic accident stretching into infinity along a raised highway, a wailing woman in white behind a fence who my friend sarah was trying to give some food to, leaping skeletons that turned into dust, and a brother and sister in the rubble from the traffic accident. after i woke up from that one and went back to sleep i had another one where a dog kept sleeping on my face and i was engaged to this guy i hardly knew who did nothing but smoke hash and was really boring but everyone else was really happy about it. ??

am full of snot. just went and got thai takeaway from the place down the road with tons of extra chilllies but apparently it was not enough. snot enough, ha.

i will laugh at your joke if you xpost and laugh at my clever play on words from this morning

Strange! What's going on with Sarah that you are dreaming about her?

Infinite traffic accident sounds a bit J.G. Ballard. Stoner fiancee = ha ha ha, though.

Clearly you need more garlic in with the chillies to get rid of the snot.

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one must always worry about crazy tubesnake madness

What - I don't understand!

Wait, I have finished my magnum, now I have to have to finish this bloody monthend recc of there will be blood on the database.

You know, it's a bit like being the dancing bear in the circus.

People poke you with sticks to make you dance. And then one day, you get sick of being made to dance, so you think "fuck it" and instead of dancing when people poke you with sticks, you just shuffle off and find something better to do.

But for the rest of time, people talk about you "oh my god, it's the dancing bear!" and it takes on a life of its own. And people will go on and on about how you danced. And the talking about how you once danced becomes a bigger distraction than the dancing ever was. So it doesn't matter if you dance or not, people will believe that you are dancing from the talking.

That sounds like a Russian fairy tale or something.

i don't know what is a tubesnake!

i dunno what's up w sarah either. ain't seen her for ages as we are both so Busy and Important, but we were emailing last week and she seemed fine. omg wait she's in japan and there is a typhoon and the woman in white looked a bit like the one from the ring and that is japanese! er wait, that's bollocks.

kate you can have the stoner fiancee, he was sweet but boring. he had a red top on and floppy hair (haha nf has a new haircut it is a bit rub and i love it obviously).

traffic thing was weird... after the fence/woman bit we got a lift in a lorry and there were a lot of lorries on this highway, some cars and stuff too but mostly lorries, it was busy, we were driving along and our driver was cool, he wound his way in and out of the traffic then suddenly there was a lorry on its side across the road but he managed to avoid it, kept driving and there was more and more wreckage from accidents until the entire road (like 4/5 lanes in both directions, and all on this raised bridge going across dusty valleys, low blue sky, arid) was jammed with wrecked traffic. then it stopped being from my pov, like the camera pulled back, and you could see the highway stretching into the distance full of dead cars. camera stopped zooming out, there was a beat, that's when a load of skeletons leap up from all the cars and the road, hang in the air for a second and turn to dust.

No, that makes sense, if you know that she is in Japan and Japan is in danger. Thanks for the stoner fiancee ha ha, oh dear.

Wow, that sounds so cool. I would like to see a film of that, as made by Tim Burton in claymation.

Car crash ahead, but you keep going anyway, and you get in deeper and deeper and the crash gets worse and worse until you can't keep going. Is your subconscious trying to tell you something?

no kate, YOU are trying to tell me something! ;)

anyway our lorry didn't get wrecked, we were fine - we just had to stop driving...

Oh, so you're saying, you're, like, made of steel, and can drive through perilous situations that make EVERYONE ELSE crash, but you're safe, and it's only OTHER PEOPLE'S CRASHES that are stopping you from getting where you want to go, then? ;-)

I am listening to the whole album Je Suis Animal sent me. Shivers, down my spine. Seriously. I love them so much. I want to go and investigate spooky haunted houses with them.

I liked the sampler a lot.

Do you want me to copy the whole album for you, are or are you snowed under with cookies? I don't know when it's going to be finished/released so I feel a bit funny about sharing the whole thing.

http://www.spinner.com/2007/05/11/the-20-worst-band-photos-no-20/
Go through the top 20 and lets see if we can decide who is the worst.

Oh, so you're saying, you're, like, made of steel, and can drive through perilous situations that make EVERYONE ELSE crash, but you're safe, and it's only OTHER PEOPLE'S CRASHES that are stopping you from getting where you want to go, then? ;-)

YES TAHT IS ZACKLY WHAT I'M AM SAYIGN

nah... i dunno. it wasn't like *everyone else died*, there were people wandering around. but yeah, before going to sleep i was having one of my minor spazouts about the whole situ. woke up feeling well tuff this morning though, emotionally as well as physically.

No 18 is a definite contender

Um, whoa, don't click that link, it just tried to install something on my computer. STAY AWAY.

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Also, Kerr, what is this Warlocks cookies you sent me?

oh no A band inspired by Louis J!
http://www.spinner.com/2007/05/11/the-20-worst-band-photos-no-10/
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it did??? not here!

xx-post new cookies of something new...

Surely numbers 18 and 3.

No 5 maybe? http://www.spinner.com/2007/05/11/the-20-worst-band-photos-no-5/

Aww no, they're my favourite! You just know there's garage-rock monsters hiding in there!

Is this the same Warlocks? Bobby Hesckhler or however you spell his name?

Coz this just sounds like some boring post-rock band so far.

I'm waiting for someone to come along and say he sees nothing wrong with no 20.

It's the new one on Tee Pee Records. Apparently it's more like the 1st album than the crappy major label stuff that NME loved.
Not heard it myself. Their last stuff really turned me off them.

Tee Pee Records presents the latest dose of stoned majesty from The Warlocks
http://www.teepeerecords.com/bands/warlocks/images/heavy200.jpg
Eight electric tales moving from space-marooned heavy blues to angelic, opiated dream haze—all propelled via the crud-fuzz of White Light/White Heat Velvets and Jesus and Mary Chain and the sprawling, melted constructions of Spacemen 3 and Red Krayola. Out October 23rd.

Which was the crappy major label one?

The only one I've got is Phoenix. Is there another one? I'm so out of touch with BJM satellite bands.

x-post oh god, they've got breasts on their album cover. How subversive. Well, that's one I won't be buying.

Can you ever have a subversive nude breast?

Same label as
THE ASSEMBLE HEAD IN SUNBURST SOUND , Titan, Earthless, Cloudland Canyon, BJM etc
http://www.teepeerecords.com/

Oh wait, you're talking about "Rise & Fall" (Bomp 2000) which I don't have. Sorry, I only have the shite one. is the first one any good, then?

First album was great. the 2nd album wasn't so great and the 3rd was worse.

I thought this was their third? Oh, I know nothing.

http://wc01.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:dbfyxqtkldje~T2

Imagine that, me not being aware of the entire back catalogue of a band I don't even like!

I tried to erase them from memory too.

it's just really annoying, because it's turned out that they are a huge influence on the vein of DDB rock that I really DON'T like. I didn't even realise that's where it was coming from. I blamed the BMRC.

BMRC are to blame for a lot of things.

I once had one of their albums. But I think I sold it or maybe even gave it away, it was so so so rubbish.

But the Warlocks I kind of think I kind of should like.

1st album maybe. The others were more accessible, but then again maybe you wont hate that since you liked Phoenix.

I hated Phoenix when it first came out. It just kind of grew on me due to repeated exposure. I mean, it's catchy like that.

Like chickenpox

I was going to say mould,but yeah, chicken pox is also apt.

morning! quiet round here innit? I hope it isn't coz the Londoners are completely unable to get to work due to tube hell.

tubesnake hell is over

traffic is still insane though! this morning there were thousands of bikes too - more than there have been the rest of the week - not all wobbly ones, just LOADS of them. pretty much as soon as i hit london fields there were fleets of us the whole way into town. is there something going on?

I think it's a case of be careful what you wish for ;)

It's a nice day, people in the habit of cycling.

glad it's nice in London. wish it was here. one of those uniformly grey skies over Oxford right now. it makes the view from my office look speshly miserable on a/c of the fact that so many of the buildings are grey ie the whole Mini facotry, the David Lloyd sports centre, random chimneys and our car park.

I'm in Chester, Cheshire, hohum.

home of Hollyoaks!

Is there really no-one over the age 30 there?

... apart from Mark of course ;)

SHUTTUP ABOUT THAT!!! :{

(j/k)

I was in Chester once on a really hot day just before Easter. There was a display of chocolate rabbits in a sweet shop window that had all melted so there were heads falling off and eye sockets dripping down faces. It was like a Watership Down horror set.

Chester's nice to walk around, as cities go.

yeah, but you know: Spend 2 weeks working away from home, and for what?

Money?

It's a 'hire-out', I get expenses, to stay in a hotel (nice, admittedly), and free meals in nice restaurants. With a colleague who is a good laff etc, but hey I'd rather be w/Family, who I kinda like you know?

Morning! Busses back to normal, which is nice. COuld get a seat on the 25.

Had a lovely dinner with Frances last night, and got my staff copy of Plan B (yay, two pieces in it!) and had a good old gossip.

And this morning I'm filled with fire - I've been talking, on Flickr and MySpace to a couple of other artists and photographers who also work a lot in the music scene. And thinking we should start a zine... no, we should start a movement, no, we should start a GUILD of psychedelic artists or something. It would be nice to get in touch with other people who do poster art and stuff, exchange ideas, maybe even do a show... possibly even a combining art and music poncey pretentious thing with live action painting and stuff. WHo knows! I'm feeling quite manic today and it all seems like a good idea.

At the moment (well, not Right This Second, obviously), I'm reading the "Story of Crass" which has lots of stuff about the art movements they grew up from/with/through/out of. Interesting stuff...

That 20 worst band photos thing was bollocks. "lest find a bunch of people at the bottom of the heap, and piss on them still further". I (predictably) thought the goth girl band was hott!

let's, even.

When Kate said about the 'installing' software, kinda put me off it.

But, yeah, I guess what Pash said was what I was expecting.

I (predictably) thought the goth girl band was hott!

Word!

I think it's a case of be careful what you wish for ;)

am not complaining about this at all! was just... whoa, where did you all come from? and ewe've had plenty nice days recently and it hasn't been like that!

That 20 worst band photos thing was bollocks.

even the trio of 7 peeping through the haystack? with their teeth!

Yeah, that was a good one

At the moment (well, not Right This Second, obviously), I'm reading the "Story of Crass"

In similar vein there's The Day The Country Died by Ian Glasper which covers the whole early 80s anarcho scene.

Wow, I was thinking more about the whole 60s art/music thing - the way that the artists were so much a part of the whole Fillmore explosion. And the Ladbroke Grove bands were all intertwined with the free press of the period, and art/music happenings like UFO and the like.

I think that "installing software" thing was just an interstitial to get you to try and click on it, but it still freaked me out. it was just like Your Band Sucks but less funny.

I kinda liked the haystack teeth band, I'm sure they played Track and Field back in the day. ;-)

Psychedelic zine would be a great idea, music is very unidimensional with out, visual and literary art as well (the same goes for those too)

or rather music can be more multi-dimensional

something like that anyway

No, I know what you mean. I like music which has all those kinds of media mixed together, a whole package, a syllabus. Those are the kind of movements that really last.

Wow, I'm selling more posters, too, on the BJM board, which is great.

Excellent, did it cover costs, yet?

Nooo... not really, but I'm trying not to think about that.

Ooh, what's this about Circulus at Night of the Long Swords on Saturday?

ooh, I might be able to do this, I do have to be at gatwick at 8am sunday.

There are doing the spitz festival of folk I think as well.

tomorrow night

yes, they are playing the Spitz tomorrow but I am going to THE JESUS AND MARY CHAIN.

Looks like Jim has made an executive decision because I didn't want to have to, and now we're aiming at Thursday 18th October:

JIM CLEMENTS AND THE RIGHT TO DIE
ANTON SWORD
SHIMURA CURVES

Ed, do you think you can do that, or am I going to have to kick Dean until he snaps out of his stoner haze?

Also, might like to have a "special guest" in there but can't think of who could do it. I wonder how much Will would change to come down and ramble for half an hour!

I can do that, I will try and make sure that work does not fuck it up.

:( a parcel deliverer just rang, but it turned out to be for my upstairs neighbour ;_;

::bounce::

I am feeling way too bouncy today. What the heck is up with that?

Now I just wish I could direct some of the bounciness into actually WORKING for a change...

A big spider has colonized my balcony; I think I might just cede the territory and stay indoors.

It's a British spider, can't be that big

Spiders are OUR FRIENDS. They are on the side of good. I have a really cute big spider that has colonised my little back herb patch. I feel bad when I harvest my rosemary because it destroys a little bit of her home and she has to rebuild. But mostly I like her, she eats the bad bugs that eat my vegetables.

They may very well be on the side of good, but I do not want to spend time with them.

They're fine when they're outside. It's when they come in the house that they must be shown the door. Or the window as the case may be.

This year is apparently a bumper crop for spiders. Are you arachnaphobic or something?

A bit like the Metropolitan Police? (xp)

Exactly, Tom. Not Arachnophobic, no, just don't like bugs, 'specially big scary-looking ones.

the metropolitan police are arachnophobic?

i like spiders. inside, outside, whatever.

I used to be scared of spiders, until I found out more about them, and then discovered how cool they are. Now I'm semi-obsessed with bugs. Not as obsessed as Emsk or Frances, but I do like them.

The Metropolitan Police are well arachnophobic.

"urgh! ommfg a SPIDAH! save me larry! *squeals* shoot the fucker! BAM!"

You can't shoot a cop! Even if it's a spider one!

I like that he shouted "ommfg."

"Orwight, my son, you're nick, put yer 'ands up... all eight of 'em"

It's quicker to shout OMFUG then CBGBS! in a crisis.

OMFUG!!! C.B.HEEBIEJEEBIES!!!

I have mices again. A lot worse than spiders. They are nibbling the bait from the traps without springing them.

Bold mices. Get one cat.

OMFUG! Spiders give me the CBGBs!

I'd rather have a spider than a mice. (O, Dana!)

I was going to ask frances if she could loan for a few days.

There are horrible mices in the office. I saw one the other night.

Frances has a good cat, I'm sure she would loan. She only has 3 legs, though, so I'm not sure how good she would be against an eight legged arachnid.

Do I dare to eat a peach?

three legs is fine as long as he/she smells like a cat.

I would also settle for a mouse eating spider.

Cats aren't necessarily any good against mice, if the mice are smart they will stay where cats can't get them, i.e. in your food cupboard.

We got an ultrasonic mice repeller which seems to work, no evidence of mice activity since we plugged it in.

I hate spiders. We have fucking loads of them in our yard. As long as they stay there I don't mind. We had a fucking MASSIVE one in our lounge the other week though. It was about 3-4 inches long. I flushed it down the loo.

Aaah, crushgirl why are you not answering my email?

I need to change my login name I think - "i am the new k8" or something like that

Yr problems are solved!!! (look away now, Goobs)

http://www.copyright-free-pictures.org.uk/insects/red-kneed-tarantula.jpg

x-post that is mean, Mitya. :-(

we have one of those ultrasonic thingies, no mice action since we got it.

the nf had mice in his office bc he is an even worse packrat than i am.

ACH.

Patience, Mitya!

I can hear the ultrasonic things and they drive me away.

you can hear them all the time? wow. we can hear them when flatmate's son pushes the test button, which is quite a lot, and for ten minutes or so afterwards, but not the rest of the time.

Yeah I could hear it when I first plugged it in, and it was quite annoying, but in normal operation it's so ultrasonic even the cats can't hear it.

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all in good fun, k8. should make you feel better - we all have the same neuroses (neurosises? neurosi?)

(xp) Oh bastard, I was going to do a clever quote from an Incredible String Band song here but the animals (or the senses) are the wrong way round:

shall I now put lion's ears upon my ears
hear every sound as a roar
shall I now put mouse's eyes upon my eyes
gauge the moon for size against my paw

I'm sure that would drive me insane. My hearing is bad enough without some freaky ultrasonic noise driving me weird. it'd be like that bit in teh Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers where they fry the audience by mistake.

OK YOU GOT ME I CONFESS

I snipped the spider's web.

And I'd do it again if I had to!

Call the spider cops, he confessed!

"Ya didn't wanna haveta do that Goobs, now you're lookin' at five in the pen at least, see?"

Where's that thread about talking like you're in a 40s/50s gangster movie?

I have lost £941. Halp.

Woh!

Ask the mices.

Oh, I have found it. FP dead the same month as written, duh.

(It is accounting money, not real actual MY money or else I'd be screaming a lot louder.)

FP dead? :(

No, not that FP. Financial Planning.

You scared me there for a minute.

Wow, where did you pop up from? It's like we say your name three times, you appear.

I'm feeling quite hyper already, should I have some more tea?

I'm going to have some tea... and I'm having a "Bog Frog" to go with it

I don't know what that is, and am afraid to ask.

I would really like some chocolate, but took all the change out of my bag last night so I specifically couldn't.

It's some kind of chocolate thing from New England. My boss is from Bawwwwwwwwwwwston and brought it back with her... in the back of her caaaaahhhh probably

http://www.thefrogbog.com/images/tfbilogo.jpg

http://www.nantucketgourmet.com/catalog/images/Bog_Frog.jpg

Bit sweet, even for me

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c361/rjg42/Bog_Frogs.jpg
x-post damn you

I have to admit, I was tipped off.

I am eating crepes dentelle de Bretagne avec chocolat au lait, which I brought back from Paris last week. They are small crispy biscuits made from a sheet of dough folded over and over, so when you bite into one it shatters and bits drop all over the place.

Tom can you get a visual of those things slowly moving through your arteries right now?

... and dissolving the enamel in my teeth? I'll get on it...

Stop it, I'm not even going to have a cup of tea, because I'm too hyper and getting in fights with Bumlove again - he can't even have an argument properly, the dork.

Anyone voting for the 1st verve album on the NME/MM poll of 1993?

Tom, did you get that new Charles Mingus that just came out? I think it's a previously unreleased recording with Eric Dolphy on it.
It was made around the time Dolphy played on Point of Departure by Andrew Hill and his own Out To Lunch.
I can cookie it..

I don't actually like "Point of Departure" or "Out To Lunch"!

"Out To Lunch" is OK I suppose. I hate the trumpet playing on it tho.

You like Mingus?

Some. Not a big fan.

I don't like "clever" jazz much

http://www.doctorvee.co.uk/images/boosh5.jpg
http://www.nndb.com/people/687/000110357/julian-barratt.jpg

You guys are coming perilously close to violating the JAZZ RULE.

No discussion of JAZZ without posting accompanying pictures of Kate's lust objects.

x-post HA HA HA HA HA

hmm i think i am very susceptible to damsel in distress crap. how did that happen? i am supposed to be a (jerk)!

Oh stop it, just fight the stereotype, Mitya. Girls only pull that shit to get blokes to do the things they don't want to do. It fucks me off.

Cookie the mingus, I'd like to hear it.

Is danny richmond in jail or on the drums?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/430000/images/_430833_boosh150.jpg
The Wire review says it's the 1st earliest recording of the line up of the great sextet: drummer dannie richmond, pianist Jaki Byard, tenor saxophonist CliffordJordan, trumpeter Johnny Coles and Eric Dolphy on alto,flute and clarinet.

Ok, I'm listening to that first Warlocks album, and it's still rubbish. DESTROY ALL FAKE DDBs.

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it's funny because there really are people who think i'm a huge jerk, as far as i know.

i sort of noticed it in a particular unhealthy relationship (small r) that i've had for a few years, but now i also feel it going on with crushgirl #2, and i'm starting to worry a little bit whether it's working because i'm crushing, or i'm crushing (more) because it's working.

the thing is, i think, that toward me it is "honest," i.e. she is kind of stressed out and traumatized (and told me that on one level the solution was easy enough - just to go to our boss and cry a little). and i'm really not in a position to help, so it can't "work" on me

i am going to have some more COFFEE
this is so not what i need heheh
next 2 hours will be funs

(oi blin, my new colleague's russian is so non-existent, this is going to be so fun...)

babushka! briviet! spasiba! golubi yedut! paka...

I only know Nadsat

Marozhanaya. Mmmmmmmmmm.

RUSSKI yedut!

prospekt mira!

I can only swear in Russian. No idea on the spellings of this, but yup vas!

SLON

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/330500/330897AgIF_w.jpg

hm i don't know that one, but then i purposely avoid learning those words b/c i am guaranteed to use them in inappropriate situations.

BASTARDS xpost

err that was an eks-post

Ah, there it is. BEARTRAPS

OMG I SUMMONED THE RUSSIAN

after i wrote russki yedut, the russki yeduted

:-O

What does "yedut" mean?

is the Russki back from Russkilandia yet?

are coming. i'm sure i'm spelling it wrong.

yeah she is, she got back last week. she's coming to bestival this weekend. dear lord protect me.

Oooh, that could be very very fun or very very dangerous.

Teh Early Yares are playing at Bestival! Go and see them! And pinch Rog's bum for me. No, wait, don't do that. Say hello. And ask him if he's learned the words yet. ;-)

follow the Moskva, down to Gorky Park, listening to the Wind of Cha-ange!

I have friends going to Bestival. Meanwhile I will be in Birmingham at a programming conference. Fun!

yeah i will see the early years, they are highlighted in orange on my running order/

ARRGGHH GODDAMN BRIGHTON FUCKING MAFIA WHO THE FUCK AAGRH KILL YOU KILL YOU

Eh what? kill who? why? What whenwherehow?

You have been cookied.

i am going to fucking kill the brighton mafia

ahaha it's ok, they killed each other

Who are the Brighton Mafia? Name names!

Wow, we just got offered a gig supporting Kontakte next Thursday. I've just said yes, fuck it, I'll go onstage by myself if necessary. But see who else is around...

Who are the Brighton Mafia? Name names!

absolutely no way. not even in private.

I think I can figure out who you mean, but I want to know if I'm right. :-8

test.

Testing what?

::BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE BOUNCE::

Was having trouble posting on another thread--thought maybe ilx was fuXored. Turns out you cant put $ in a link title.

I thought he was testing the Mingus cookies.

Ed's in. Looks like Dean's in. Still haven't heard from the girls! This could be fun, 2 12-strings and no vocals.

Reasons I wish I still lived in NYC... Cavestomp

THE WAIT IS OVER... AND HERE'S THE WORD!

THE LINEUP (and ticket info) FOR CAVESTOMP!2007 -- "The GARAGE Rock Festacular!"

They said it couldn't be done (hell, WE said it couldn't be done) but... BASEBALL BAT BOMBASTIC-LIKE DRUM ROLL, PUH-LEEZ!....

STRAIGHT FROM THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST IT'S THE ONE AND ONLY...SONICS!!!!!

First time in 35 years! And these TWO nights are their ONLY shows!

Featuring original members: Gerry Roslie!!! on throat/keyboards, Larry Parypa!!! on guitar, and Rob Lind!!! on tenor sax! With Dave Rowland (of The Wailers) on drums!! And Don Wilhelm (of The Daily Flash) on bass!!

THE NEW COLONY SIX!!! Doing all their hits! "I Confess!!!" "At the River's Edge!!!" "Dawn Is Breaking!!!"

THE STRAWBERRY ALARM CLOCK!!! Performing their first LP "Incense and Peppermints!" in its entirety! (Complete with surface noise!) With original members George Bunnell, Lee Freeman, Randy Seoul, Mark Weitz, Gene Gunnels, and Steve Bartek!

And now -- the complete lineups!

FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 2

THE SONICS!!!!!!
THE THANES!!!
THE SATELLITERS!!!
THE OUTTA PLACE!!!
THE STAGGERS!!!

SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 3

THE STRAWBERRY ALARM CLOCK!!!
THE NEW COLONY SIX!!!
THE ALARM CLOCKS!!!
THE URGES!!!
THE HIGHER STATE!!!

SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 4

THE SONICS!!!!!!
THE FLESHTONES!!!
(support band to be confirmed)
THE WILDEBEESTS!!!
THE HALL MONITORS!!!

The venue: WARSAW! 261 Driggs Ave., Brooklyn NY! We can't prove it, but this is probably the first time you can get THE SONICS and kielbasa in the same place since 1964!!! And don't forget Polish beer by the barrel! (Smaller quantities available as well!)

Tickets are $35 in advance, $40 day of show, and THANK YOU JE-ZUS!! $90 for a three day pass!!!! Tickets are available NOW!! NOW!! NOW!! thru TICKETWEB at this direct link: http://www.ticketweb.com/t3/event/EventListings?orgId=20324

If you're in the neighborhood, pick your tix up at Ear Wax Records (218 Bedford Ave. in Williamsburg, Brooklyn) or Warsaw (261 Driggs Ave. Greenpoint, Brooklyn -- call (718) 387-0505) starting Wednesday, Sept. 5. Watch this space for more info!

A friend of mine saw a few garage bands in Portland a few weeks ago. electric prunes, chocolate watch band, strawberry alarm clock and the seeds were slated but only sky saxon came out.

Oh, come on people, get back to me. Argh. I am way too hyper.

Wait, yay! Lisa is up for it.

Argh, Bishi just posted that she's playing a free gig at the Metro tonight... but not until 10pm. Damn.

Ack, wondering why the promoter hasn't got back to me, and dang, they're doing a gig tonight, duh duh duh. Hope they don't book someone else on the spot while they're there. ARgh.

I think I can figure out who you mean, but I want to know if I'm right. :-8

i dunno if you do... i am kind of shocked.

I am so confused. Don't speak in riddles!

I am feeling way too hyper. It's a bit scary. I just want to organise things.

But! I have started a new zine, it is all go, this amazing artist chick Mia is going to do it with me, which is well cool. This is one of her DDBs - well cool!

http://a175.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/88/l_11283ded03104ab23079581dd140e136.jpg

See? I am totally hyper! Not only did I used the phrase "well cool" but I used it twice in the same sentance. Cannot concentrate. Feel a bit weird. Maybe I should stop even pretending to work and just go home.

DDB's look like Kurt Cobain now?

Ha ha, Aislinn from Asteroid#4 thought that too, and we were arguing about it. "Doesn't Sam look like Kurt Cobain?" Sam shoots me pained expression. "No, not at all."

sigur ros are great, aren't they?

Are they? I haven't really heard anything I liked since the first album. That blank album was kind of... blank. Is their newer stuff any better?

Oh boy, why did I eat the carrot cake? Druggy feeling, oh yes. I wonder if there's some kind of food additive that only gets in carrot cake that produces this reaction in me.

That said, I need something to calm down the HYPER of the past few days.

Have you been exercising a lot recently?

YES YES YES YES YES.

Maybe I should stop if this is what it does to my brain. I can't take being this hyper all the time. I feel so tired in the morning - until I get up and spend 20 minutes on the machine. and then I feel hyper. It's kind of awful.

But Frances asked me the other day "have you lost weight?" and I was surprised she noticed, but I have actually. It's a weird side effect, when what I really wanted was to get out of depression.

I JUST WANT TO FEEL NORMAL, NOT HYPER HYPER HYPER LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME. Can't I find a joyful palmreader?

Also, I hadn't had any tea this morning becuase I ran out. I am now rectifying this situation.

Dammit, the gig next week is cancelled because the promoter has been having problems with the venue. :-(

And it was going to be the first gig with a full house!

Bum

OK I've finally written the chapter outline I should have written, oh, two weeks ago. Now I have to write 2,500 words today if I want any hope of finishing the chapter by Sunday night. You guys have to hold me to this!

I will come to your gorgeous flat, drink your beer and beat you everythime you move from your chair, if you like.

GET OFF THE INTERWEBS!!! hide your modem if you have to.

someone text goobs and tell him he needs to look at this thread, we are giving him valuable tips on how to keep working productively and not get distracted

Sometimes I need the internets to do RESEARCH (I am an serious academic), and I can check in here. Thanks for the help.

(Ed, the door's open.)

Ack. Been pricing tickets to Cuba for November (since I have spent precisely the WHOLE DAY waiting for someone else to finish a task before I can do anything) and they are ridiciously expensive. At least it seems: J630 (see how I converted into pounds for you guys :)

Don't trust Ed! He will drink your beer AND TALK TO YOU!!!

Cuba? Are you ALLOWED to go to Cuba, Mitya? Don't you have an American passport?

Oh, what should I have for lunch today? I don't fancy any the usual. I kinda of want noodles. Where to get, in this neighbourhood?

What I really want is noodles, sesame sauce, cold hard boiled egg, and maybe some cucumber slices as a garnish. Where on earth does that come from? Have had it, at Pret or Eat or somewhere.

Can't face another eggy sammich, I had one for breakfast.

800 words down.

THAT'S THREE WORDS YOU POSTED TO THE INTERNET THAT COULD HAVE BEEN IN YOUR THESIS!!! BACK TO WORK!!!

::CRACKS WHIP::

xpost i am allowed to go to cuba, just not spend any money there :)

I have to go to amsterdam right now.

Hello there!

Right now? Damn.

Someone left an empty Fresh and Wild box in the trash, and now I want to know where it came from, because I want salady hummusy things for lunch.

Ed did you get the Mingus?

Would anyone camp in one of these? Imagine emsk camping in this at Bestival?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7421250@N03/1116162108/

damn it didn't post the pic. here's the link
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7421250@N03/1116162108/

lets try again
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=1116162108&size=l

damn. no dice.

Anyone here like PJ Harvey?

I got a pie. It seemed appropriate for going to see the JAMC. I wanna pie on a sunny day. I wanna pie in the USA.

Whoa, I've been having a dicussion about god and religion on another messageboard which has lasted a couple of hours without anyone being nasty or getting personal! I think this must be a new record or something.

<i>Did you get the Mingus?</i>

I feel like I need to wash my hands after reading that. Okay kids have a good weekend. I am off to the dacha for shashlyk and vodka. See you (blurrily) Monday.

You lucky man! Talk to you Monday.

Bye Mitya have fun!!

The new Witchcraft album is teh awesome!!

I feel really unwell all of a sudden. It's too bloody hot and there's no air in here. I just really hope I'm not coming down with something. Bah! I'm supposed to see JAMC tonight! DOn't be ill.

1400 words. Slowing a bit, but that's ok. I refuse (refuse!) to konk out after dinner. I have to have to have to use all the time that i'm awake (with plenty of breaks, of course).

Well done! I'm going to have some more tea in a desperate bit to feel better.

Dance, bear, dance!

Wonder what songs JAMC will play.

I imagine they'll be doing the same setlist they've been doing the whole tour. Only surprise will be which boring girl celeb they'll drag up onstage to do the female voice bits.

I'm kind of not very excited about this right now. Probably because I'm feeling a bit rubbish physically. I'm sure in a couple of hours I'll be excited, as soon as I see them, though.

Oh god, I'm starting to feel really unwell. But no, I have GOT to go. Maybe I'll go and have something really really spicey hot beforehand, and then not drink and hope that I don't feel iller.

The girl I'm supposed to meet up with just messaged me going "CALL ME WHEN YOU GET THERE!" and forgot to include her phone number. D'oh!

I don't know what the setlist is though.

RFH set from June, I imagine toinght's set will be fairly close to thid:

Never Understand
Head On
Far Gone and Out
Catchfire
Sidewalking
Snakedriver
Dead End Kids (originally a Freeheat/Jim Reid song)
Happy When It Rains
Some Candy Talking
Between Planets
Blues From a Gun
Cracking Up
All Things Must Pass (new song)
Teenage Lust
Just Like Honey

Encore:
Vegetable Man
You Trip Me Up
Reverence

I think Vegetable Man is what I'll miss the most. So jealous of Kaet, and Ailsa who saw them at Connect last weekend.

Can't type. Drunk. you get the gist.

i should probably say something cleverer than just "good morning" but somehow i can't be bothered. so, "good morning"

Good morning. I'm up to about 7,000 words. Have to write 2-3000 more by 5pm. It's possible

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Woha, what happens when you're not finished, Gooblar? :-(

Anyone here like PJ Harvey?

*waves*

Oh, basically it sets in motion a chain of events--if I don't finish the chapter today, my supervisor can't read it for our meeting tomorrow, and since I'm off to M-n- on Friday (to get married), I won't be able to do any more work til I get back, first week of October. I will then have far too much to finish to be able to submit the whole thesis by the end of October, which is when most job apps (in the states, that is) are due in--and it will help my job chances a ton if I've submitted.

My husband's cousin has to redo her last year (of university) because she failed. Her thesis "wasn't good enough." We don't know what went wrong exactly, we only know that her mother went berserk and demanded she go find a cleaning job while (re)writing her thesis.

Uh, I hope you don't have to do this. Please continue writing! Until it's finished in TIME. :-)

Wow. Yeah, you do NOT want to go through the hell that is finishing and submitting only to be told it's not good enough. I think I would honestly consider saying 'fuck off' and just becoming a high school teacher.

I was astounded when my husband said it wasn't uncommon for some students to fail, not being able to write a proper thesis. Maybe it's for the best I dropped out so soon. ;-) Then again I probably wrote my thesis in the first year: I *overwrote* when I made that developmental psychology project. It was nearly the size of a book. The assistent didn't understand how I could write so well and still fail my exam. hahaha Ah well...

Uh, ooookay, I think it's better I either shut up about such failings or encourage you to finish your work!

whereas my thesis itself was fine and i had a panic attack during my orals... anything is possible. take your time

In my subject area, failures were unknown. If you got enough results to write up and managed to turn in a decent thesis, the viva was pretty much a formality.

Until.....a bloke a year ahead of me, known as very bright, with solid research under his belt...FAILED HIS VIVA! He didn't have enough original research and apparently fell apart during the viva. They asked him to go back and do more work and submit again. This obv freaked out everyone else in the department who was about to write up, including me. Thankfully I got through, mainly because the external examiner was keen to get finished and go Christmas shopping (it was Dec 21st).

<i>I think Vegetable Man is what I'll miss the most.

-- onimo, Friday, 7 September 2007 20:58 (3 days ago) Bookmark Link

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aka "VEGETABLE FUCKING MAAAAAANNN!!!!"

OK Kaet? How was it?

Need a word:

....for one who abstains

that is, I need a word better than "abstainer"

during my orals... anything is possible. take your time

That last part of the sentence works in so many ways.

Anyone?

Thesaurus has 0 results for "Abstainer"

but: abjure, abnegate, avoid, cease, constrain, curb, decline, deny oneself, do without, eschew, evade, fast, forbear, forgo, give up, keep from, pass, pass up, quit, refrain, refuse, renounce, shun, sit out, spurn, starve, stop, withhold

Gooblar - give us the context..

I'm basically looking for a one-word syllable for 'conscientious objector':

He recognizes that Zuckerman’s cabin is an “upgraded replica” of Ira’s shack in the woods, his “beloved retreat,” the symbol of Ira’s utterly unrealistic vision of himself as a pure ______ from the evils of capitalism.

refusenik?

Maybe? Too...something. Too casual?

Ira Hayes? Ira Gershwin?

island?

haven?

butlins?

Ira Ringold.

xpost thanks!

OK, not perfect, butIthinkI'mgonnagowith DISSENTER.

Ira's a nice name. Dissenter is a good one.

"coward" :P

ack only 4:38 - i so want to go home now... waiting for my boss to say the jet leg is too much and leave so i can sneak out after him ;)

Kate enjoyed it and said they played a lot of old stuff esp from Psychocandy and Darklands.