an MIT student walks into an airport...

i mean, i know what she did was D-U-M-B, but still, quotes like that are precisely why i hate the police

you should be GRATEFUL that we did not SHOOT YOU for wearing a stupid art project that, incidentally, does not actually look like a bomb at all!

http://boingboing.net/images/cfa4827569_20070921device3.jpg

it lit up the words "COURSE VI" and "SOCKET TO ME" apparently

http://www.darkplanneur.com/images/boston.jpg

Simpson was charged with disturbing the peace and possessing a hoax device

the second charge was concocted by city officials during the ATHF lite-brite fiasco, y/n?

xpost yes

xp that is the INSIDE of the sweatshirt, btw

y, i think

C. Grisso goes where I was going to go, namely that Boston has already shown itself to be a very, very weak scorer on the "looks like a bomb" quiz.

what a moron

"hoax device" could describe so many things!

esp funny is that she was walking around and, like, TALKING to airport officials about flight arrivals and shit

yeah but mooninite wasn't strapped to someones chest in an airport.

wow i would love to slap her bleach blond head

God, another case that should be a pretty clear cut example of how fucked up the current police climate is marred by the fact that the defendant was a stupid college kid doing a really stupid thing.

I just love the idea that anybody who wants to fuck us up will be wearing wires and batteries hanging off themselves and put fucking big blinky lights all over their IEDs instead of, you know, making actual IEDs like we've been training thousands of people to do for the past four years

or even bothering to hide it

or possibly putting the bomb on a TRUCK and PARKING IT

whatever FITE TERRORISM etc fuck this country in the ass

lol boston has never ever seen an actual bomb before huh

am I the only person who is really fucking sick of hearing knee-jerk responses to this kind of bullshit that basically consist of "well the kid(s) were being STUPID anyway" which is all well and fine but you do realize the actual idiot causing the problem is the person wearing the authority costume, right?

or did I miss the issue of vice magazine where it was announced that the cool thing to do is whatever the cops tell you

pretty gal (sorta)

obviously the vice-appropriate response is to chastise the person enough with threats of violence while sneering at their hair color. test the boundaries of freedom, why don't you? psssh. way to go, getting caught. sneer, guffaw.

This is what I'm saying. Shit happens constantly, but it's always someone most folks can point to and be all "Douchebag! Doesn't count." so they don't take into account what it really means when a girl gets arrested for having some LEDs on her shirt.

Can we just treat loud/stupid assholes like loud/stupid assholes instead of THREATS TO FREEDOMS?

xpost

whoops i'm an idiot that is clearly the outside of her sweatshirt

still, someone trained as a security professional should be able to quickly discern that that is just blinky lights, not, like, a vest packed with C4

wtf does vice have to do with this. if you walk into an airport wearing a fake bomb you should know you are going to get arrested. and why shouldn't you be?

if you walk into a bank and point a fake gun at somebody you will get arrested too. and if you point a fake gun at a cop you run the risk of getting shot.

you'd think that, right xpost to river wolf

This is more the equivalent of walking into a bank and pointing a Super Soaker at the teller, though.

slocki, that argument falls apart in that i don't see how a reasonable person could think some stupid raver artwork is a bomb. that looks NOTHING like a bomb. like, not even an as-seen-on-tv-movie type of bomb.

en i see kay otm basically.

she should have been arrested on principle, who cares how real the bomb looked

also, slocki, she was not wearing a "fake bomb," wtf dude. she was wearing a homemade blinky light thing that was NOT intended to trick ppl into thinking it was abomb. it was intended to trick ppl into giving her a job, ffs

well now she has a job! making license plates!

ok the guy I knew in the air force who put a sign saying "DANGER! ANTHRAX!" next to a pile of white dust from sanding drywall in a college dorm was an idiot.

a person wearing a shirt with blinking lights is not exactly carrying a fake bomb. that's no different from saying a person who tries to check a piece of luggage with a hunk of cheese in it is carrying a fake bomb.

what principle would that be, cutty?

this is my favorite part:

The major praised the booth attendant but said the incident is a reminder of the terrorism threat confronting the civil aviation system.

did they like actually say anything like this with a straight face?

first they came for the dorks at the airport etc

sorry but at this point it is so common sense that you should not walk into an airport with a wired device strapped to your chest.

if it said BOMB I AM A BOMB on it, then okay, the super-soaker argument might hold water (ha). but this is like walking into a bank with a violin case or something

yeah, especially in boston, where the cops seem to be extra special!

they don't arrest the cheese-packed-next-to-the-cell-phone-charger people so I really don't see how the fuck any reasonable sober person could think this incident is justifiable by the fucking popos

If they would have shot and killed her, they could still have pointed at Britain: "see, we only shoot REAL threats!"

it's also common sense that you shouldn't wear shoes that don't slip on and off to the airport anymore but that doesn't mean it's not a bunch of STUPID FUCKING BULLSHIT

is there a picture of what it looked like from the outside?

I won't even walk into an airport with a belt anymore.

tombot otm

what principle would that be, cutty?

stupid people need to be slapped

maybe so, slocki, and the cops probably did the right thing in confronting her about it. but this is NOT equivalent to yelling fire in a theater. she actually did NOTHING illegal.

the police shouldn't be so fucking chuffed and self-congratulatory about arresting someone who was not remotely a threat. it's theater.

xp

i was wrong, slocki (see upthread). that IS what it looked like from the outside.

it wasn't even like she had any business being in the fucking airport

a) the kid is a moron, because, well, who in fuck with any common sense would think going thru an airport in 2007 with blocky electric blinky shit on their chest would be no problem??

b) the authorities look pretty "lame dad" for scolding everybody and talking all tough and not being able to figure out in 20 seconds what was a problem and what isn't, but really i think a) is the trigger issue here.

Seriously, what is this "arrest/beat up the douchebags" sentiment? That's not how democracy works!

Ignore them! Berate them! Snarkily humiliate them! Don't get the fucking DHS in on the deal!

i was wrong, slocki (see upthread). that IS what it looked like from the outside.

-- river wolf, Friday, September 21, 2007 7:06 PM (5 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

that actually does kinda look like a bomb.

b is about 40,000x a bigger issue than a ffs

s1ocki that looks absolutely nothing like a bomb

i agree that the police spokesperson spoke with excessive pride.

ppl shouldn't be arrested and put in jail for being morons, as much as we all would like that to be the case sometimes

i would like to say river wolf is also otm

2x

anything with metal parts and wires and light-up bits strapped to someone's chest, in an airport, looks like a bomb.

http://www.antichristconspiracy.com/BombVest3.jpg

the cops did what cops at airports are supposed to do, but the info all gets to them via a game of fucking telephone. teller: "omg bomb??" cops: "omg bomb!!"

xp hmm i dunno about "bigger issue" actually. i haven't made up my mind.

HEY I"M JUST HERE TO BOMB THE AIRPORT, CAN YOU DIRECT ME TO ARRIVALS THANX ^_^

i'm just boggled that everyone here is focusing on HER lack of common sense instead of THE ENTIRE POLICE FORCE AT THE AIRPORT'S lack of common sense in this situation? is boston purposefully trying to humiliate themselves? what is more worrisome to you guys, the fact that sometimes 19 yo's are dumb, or the fact that cops in major cities basically have a license to do whatever the fuck they want these days and y'all are like "yeah well that's life lol" about it?

I would be in jail if all morons were arrested. I got arrested once for being a completely innocent and quiet moron (I walked in through the open window of an elementary school to see the child-sized toilets). YET I have never been arrested for crimes.

she needs to be taught a lesson that her art projects should not interfere with national security ;)

Looks like slocki is qualified to be an airport cop guys

a couple years of that and he'll be qualified to load and unload the luggage

hey guys what WAS the proper response then?

of course they should've stopped her and questioned her but it would (should?) take any trained professional approximately 3 seconds at most to figure out that that wasn't a bomb. the guns, the melodrama, the actually telling the press that this poor dummy is LUCKY TO BE ALIVE, the actually arresting her for this...i mean what the hell is wrong with some of you?

xpost wait, abbott, why were you going to look at the children's toilets?

anything with metal parts and wires and light-up bits strapped to someone's chest, in an airport, looks like a bomb.

do you think this whenever you see a staffer with a walkie-talkie, too?

the cops being proud of themselves for this, is a HUGE problem. "HI WE FUCKED UP IN A TUFF KINDA WAY, KUDOS 2 US"

xps

again, cops otm for checking her out. that's their job. once it's revealed that it's just a dumb art project, call cutty, have him slap her, and say yr dum go home and solder something.

charging her with, like, crimes is o_O

I think this is what happens when worst-case-scenario 1%-doctrine training pairs up with the 1% thing never happening to people who have been rigorously trained for it -- under other circumstances you'd assume security would just approach her, pull her aside, "what is that," "you have to pack that away so as not to alarm other passengers," etc.

"Alarming passengers" is kind of ironic here, though, since you then get authorities crowing about their rapid response to the Constant Terrorist Threat and talking about how they could totally have killed someone for being a bit weird/dumb, rather than possibly saying, I dunno, "just a bit of LED sweatshirt, let's be cool." (Although I suppose the message they're going for here is "don't wear LEDs to the airport, seriously, we might kill you.")

Being stupid can sometimes amount to a crime, but not always.

so yeah, how about i try to walk through airport security with a big-ass bottle of jergins lotions with some wires coming out the nozzle, outside of a gallon ziploc bag, THAT LOOKS LIKE A BOMB, RIGHT? watch out for those pourable and spreadable substances.

i'm also amazed that you guys all seem to think that pulling a bunch of submachine guns if she was a bomber somehow would've prevented her from triggering the bomb there and then btw.

xpost gff otm--this is really what is the most upsetting aspect of the story, they were like this about the stupid lite brite incident too. how does anyone stand to live in boston, i wonder.

"all" of you guys not really otm there btw, it's like three of you guys, sorry u_u

do you think this whenever you see a staffer with a walkie-talkie, too?

-- El Tomboto, Friday, September 21, 2007 7:12 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

i don't see staffers very often

tombot, river wolf, schef, and nabisco all nicely OTM for various remarks upthread

where is jergins when we need him

i'm sticking w s1ocki on this one folks

Ally, I was going to look at the children's toilets bcz I couldn't remember if they were junior-sized or not and I was feeling foolishly nostalgic. (School was out for summer btw, I wasn't prowling around looking for 1st graders in the toilet.)

i don't even really have a point besides dont carry suspicious bomb-looking shit into airports!!

the proper response is to pay some fucking attention to actual threats and not waste time acting like people's loafers and shirts are what they used to knock down the WTC?

bombs on airplanes is so fucking 1988 anyway

so yeah, how about i try to walk through airport security with a big-ass bottle of jergins lotions with some wires coming out the nozzle, outside of a gallon ziploc bag, THAT LOOKS LIKE A BOMB, RIGHT? watch out for those pourable and spreadable substances.

-- elmo argonaut, Friday, September 21, 2007 3:13 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

lol if you did this you'd just get told to throw it in the garbage bin by the sassy lady who checks ids at the security line, son.

Got a lot of questions for me
You got a lot of questions for me
Got your finger pointing at me
Distrusted
I look for wires when I'm talking to you
You'd make a great cop

You guys I wouldn't know whether that was or wasn't a bomb, and I'm not a total idiot generally speaking, I just don't have any, like, wiring or weapons expertise. Yes, it is prob the cops' JOB to have this expertise and these guys are self-congratulatory morons...but just think of all the delicately handled inquiries you DON'T hear about b/c the security teams keep it cool. I mean just by the law of averages you'd think that there are a lot more of them than you hear about etc.

Also, lol Boston I mean come on.

I kind of have a hard time believing that she was just negligent in wearing that sweatshirt to a fucking airport.

i am with slocki as well. i wish the cops hadn't been dumbasses about it, but you know airports are strange places these days.

BTW if anybody wants to tell me which part of airport security is not plainly theatrical horseshit, and could actually have stopped any of the 9/11 hijackings, I would love to hear it. Anything from checking in with ID to the x-ray machine to the sky marshals is fair game, I really want to know.

Wasn't there a Perfect Strangers where a guy had strapped dynamite to his chest that turned out to be made of chocolate, but before this revelation Balki was all talking him down with his hilarious simple foreign charm?

i wish the cops hadn't been dumbasses about it, but you know airports are strange places these days.

wow this is like really sad to me.

hey guys do you want to know how that isn't a bomb? It's on the outside of her shirt with a blinking light on it. That's how you know it's not a fucking bomb.

There is probably a great and fascinating demographic split you could find between people who are reassured that security will shoot anyone even resembling a threat and people who are freaked out by it.

As a traveling salesman of prop bombs for motion pictures, I am reassured.

PS Carey OTM; either she's a BIG weirdo or possibly part of her was kinda interested to see what would happen (but who knows)

this is how hitler started etc

but you know airports are strange places these days

wtf does this even mean

some of you are making me totally furious with your sheer ignorance and pathetic genuflection to authority on this thread. It is totally unnecessary to name names.

in a post 9/11 world, it's ok for us to not have freedom anymore, and to eat pizza with the sauce on TOP of the cheese

dont carry bomb-looking shit into airports

putting wires on his big-ass bottle of lotions (x-post)

well airports are pretty weird. we take our belts and shoes off and yet i agree with tombot, i doubt that any of it does jack shit

airport security is not plainly theatrical horseshit

I liked the one article where Bruce Schneier nailed Kip Hawley with the saline solution question

dont carry bomb-looking shit into airports

modern x-ray technology would reveal heart of mohammad atta three sizes too small

9/21 changed everything.

so, slocki, seriously, if you saw this girl on the s treet wearing that hoodie you'd be all like zomg wtf bommmmmm!? i mean come the hell on, you've been to college before.

into airports

"why does it make a lick of sense to anyone that I can only have 3 oz of shampoo but I can have 16 oz of anything as long as I put it in a contact lens squirt bottle?"

dont carry bomb-looking shit into airports
dont carry bomb-looking shit into airports
dont carry bomb-looking shit into airports
dont carry bomb-looking shit into airports

airport cops must be srsly freaked by those kids shoes with red LEDs in the heel

how about dont carry bomb-looking shit into airports

dan m otm

how about the three of you are pussies?

Tombot 8080% OTM re: airport security as theatrical pallative for idiot paranoia

WOnder if you can bring a drum machine through an airport these days

i'm going to go back to carefully packing all of my explosive gels into a 1 quart ziplock bag.

dont carry bomb-looking drum machines into airports

some of you are making me totally furious with your sheer ignorance and pathetic genuflection to authority on this thread. It is totally unnecessary to name names.

-- El Tomboto, Friday, September 21, 2007 7:19 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i can't wait until the brits show up :D

or don't strap drum machines to your hoodie

Any time I'm flying through Indianapolis or anything, there is a tiny part of me that's really curious to see what would happen if I rolled out a mat for afternoon prayers or something.

Ha, I was just thinking of those light-up shoes: there is a clear precedent for clothing with LEDs being A-OK! They just have to be professionally embedded, I guess.

Fear currently racing through heart of that one girl on Project Runway who made the heartbeat/camera sweatshirt

she was also carrying playdoh, which probably didn't help, the rent a cops probably thought holy shit, plastic explosive.

"Don't carry a MoogerFooger in your chest pocket in the airport"

It's also kind of a shitty art project.

"Roland TR505 is allowed. TR808 is forbidden unless contained within a sealed ziploc bag"

where were the glow sticks?

bomb-looking shit, a list:

cell phones
walkie talkies
laptop computers
pieces of cheese wrapped in plastic
bottles of fluid
shoes

^^^^^^ wait no this is all okay

shirts with BIG BLINKY LIGHTS OUT ON THE OUTSIDE LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME

^^^^^^ obv a cunning killer at work

Yerac OTM: it's a really really shitty art project

Another OTM for Tombot re: airport security measures making me feel 0% reassured about preventing ANYTHING other than "horseplay".

but you know airports are strange places these days

wtf does this even mean

-- elmo argonaut

Have you ever seen the made for TV movie of Stephen King's THE LANGOLIERS? Airports are full of bad-CGI critters that eat space-time and make Bronson Pinchot go insane.

cell phone looks like bomb?

she goes to MIT for computers, were you expecting some francesca woodman shit?

i don't even think you can ride a skateboard in the airport anymore :(

xposts: don't forget oxygen bottles

im not defending airport security measures, they seem pretty dumb, although i have no idea what that has to do with being suspicious of people carrying bomb-looking shit into airports

for the terrist w/ emphysema

Are Heelys okay in an airport?

don't you guys have IRC? (deleted everything I was going to say - 50 xposts and more in what, two minutes?)

ok, carry on.

security guards should be reqired to have masters degrees if we're giving them all this wild power

last time an airplane was blown up by a bomb while in flight: Phillippine Airways, Tokyo, 1994

do we agree that this girl had intent to stir shit up?

who cares about the intents of stupid people

i agree with that, cutty

carrying the pla-doh indicates YES

last time an airplane was blown up by a bomb while in flight: Phillippine Airways, Tokyo, 1994

-- El Tomboto, Friday, September 21, 2007 7:29 PM (23 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

i'm sure the security guard took that into consideration.

Oh my GOD, lol @ the idiocy on this thread. Tombot 100% otm.

xpost intent to stir shit up = gunpoint?

I'm sure both you and the security guard are idiots.

xpost.

The thing is in hindsight, with the nice picture of her sweatshirt that you can see clearly, you can tell that it is obviously not a bomb. But I can't find anything wrong with how security reacted at that moment when they couldn't see clearly what that bleached moppet was wearing. AIRPORT SECURITY HAVE TO COVER THEIR ASSES YOU KNOW. If it's questionable at all, you have to ask- what would Jack Bauer do.

she wanted a reaction and she got it. it's not like they fucking shot her.

i'm not sure. apparently she wears this hoodie on the regular on campus.

xp to cutts

yeah if they shot her i would be sad

that makes 100% sense. since that person is trying to draw attention to themselves they MUST not be crazy and possibly planning ot blow shit up

(i read boing boing 2)

I think calling it an art project is a stretch. SHE IS AN EE/CS MAJOR. Those people are nerds, they wear that shit to advertise their nerdery. If having wearable stupid knocked-together-in-a dorm-room technology = possible terrorist then a large percentage of students at my alma mater are probably on the FBI watch list.

If it's questionable at all, you have to ask- what would Jack Bauer do.

plz to say is joeks

if terrorists are going to attack the infrastructure of an international airport, they're gonna be dressed as baggage handlers or airport security, not as a cheeky art student with fried hair.

I'm sure both you and the security guard are idiots.

-- El Tomboto, Friday, September 21, 2007 7:31 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

dude i just disagree with you. chill.

El Tomboto = very hostile pacifist

xp: They probably are anyway. The Gov don't need loose engineers not nailed down to the building-us-bombs program.

hey look we can try to pick one or the other, but this was a meeting of different kinds of stupid, is the thing

And did this dude she was meeting at the airport even know she was coming? That is sad that he left. Who goes to an airport anymore unless they are forced to pick someone up. weirdos.

The airport in my old town had all the best pinball machines & so we would go there to hang out.

I'm thinking that unless airport social mechanics were written in Perl (or whatever language Battlebots use), I have no problem believing the 19-year-old EE major didn't think she would cause a fuss.

Abbott kicking ass on this thread, btw.

maybe she should have left that hoodie at home

Yeah, a lot of airport security shit is stupid, but just to play devil's advocate, I do think it provides some level of deterrence, however imperfect, and might have some chance of working by the sheer fact that you have to go through lots of different levels of bullshit on your way into the plane, pass under the eyes of lots of different guards, and that you don't quite know what to expect. People who plan to hijack or blow up planes are not necessarily going to be the coolest characters - they're likely to get nervous under pressure. Again, I'm playing devil's advocate here and I know it's not exactly the most brilliant security scheme, but feel free to berate me for suggesting that any measures should be taken to prevent airline terrorism, that anything the current administration does could possibly be at all effective, and that maybe there isn't an ideal solution.

Also, the idea that someone would wear a bomb on the outside of their jacket, while unlikely, is not entirely implausible - there do happen to be mentally unstable and delusional people in the world who want to do harm.

maybe she should have left the play doh at home xp

yeah, i just think that the police reaction here (ie the press conferences, the being "appalled," the trying to set ridiculously high bail, etc) is the issue. so she's a clueless dork. so the cops aren't good at bomb vests. whatever. it should have been a low-pro "on yr way, stupid lady" situation, and instead it seems like they want to give each other medals and prop up the security state

eighth amendment re: bail

Also, the idea that someone would wear a bomb on the outside of their jacket, while unlikely, is not entirely implausible - there do happen to be mentally unstable and delusional people in the world who want to do harm.

fucking OTM, why the fuck do people think every bomber = dennis miller in speed. some peopel are just stupid and crazy

yeah, i just think that the police reaction here (ie the press conferences, the being "appalled," the trying to set ridiculously high bail, etc) is the issue. so she's a clueless dork. so the cops aren't good at bomb vests. whatever. it should have been a low-pro "on yr way, stupid lady" situation, and instead it seems like they want to give each other medals and prop up the security state

-- river wolf, Friday, September 21, 2007 7:38 PM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

ya i agree with this!

and what hurting said too.

What if you had a shirt that played a MIDI of Jimi Hendrix's "Purple Haze" or a christmas tie that played a MIDI of "Frosty the Snowman"?

you are all so consumed with quantifying the reaction. like i said--no one got hurt. if she was emotionally hurt by having a gun stuck in her face maybe she learned a valuable lesson about art criticism.

xpost haha holy shit

http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/products/zoom/tqualizer_anim.gif

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

WHY WOULD YOU WEAR THAT INTO AN AIRPORT?!?! THREE YEARS IN THE WORKHOUSE FER YOU.

I cannot believe people are not taking into account the fact that she goes (went? lol rescinded? perhaps) to MIT means that Boston officials are going to REVEL in the fact that she did something stupid.

f she was emotionally hurt by having a gun stuck in her face maybe she learned a valuable lesson about art criticism.

-- cutty, Friday, September 21, 2007 7:39 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

haha

Abbott I think you need to refer to Bronson Pinchot a third time on this thread, it feels necessary somehow.

RIP ART PROJECT:

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2007/07/large_wellsscene.jpeg

also: the "hoax device" thing is infuriating

What if you had a shirt that played a MIDI of Jimi Hendrix's "Purple Haze" or a christmas tie that played a MIDI of "Frosty the Snowman"?

-- Abbott, Friday, September 21, 2007 3:39 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

But what if it played "You Dropped a Bomb On Me"

aw that poor guy

that's the pizza guy, right?

Jeremy Blake

that story sends chills down my spine every time

haha Dan, haha Boston, where airport security will get frisky with you for a Dead Kennedys teeshirt...

Airport people know they can take liberties because more so than ever the airport is a totalitarian zone, so may attract natural bully types.

There was an episode of Lois & Clark wherein Bronson Pinchot played "the Prankster," who, while stalking Lois, installed a bomb in a building.

There's also a gigantic amount of disingenuous bullshit coming from the people championing the "this was a gross overreaction" position on this thread. YES IT WAS A GROSS OVERREACTION. That does not change the fact that, even BEFORE 9/11, wandering into an airport carrying Play-Doh and wearing a homemade box with blinking lights and wires sticking out of it is a criminally stupid, dangerous thing to do, ESPECIALLY if your skin complexion is not porcelain white. The United States is not and (this is key) NEVER HAS BEEN a country where that would not generate a massive overreaction; furthermore, pulling that shit in one of the most racist cities in the country (lol Julia Child hated black people) magnifies the reaction that extra notch where you could potentially get shot in the face for being a latte-colored geek.

http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/fl/fly-in-ice-cube.jpg

http://www.fantasycostumes.com/Merchant2/images/1391.jpeg

^^^ hoax devices

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/45/Ps11.jpg/180px-Ps11.jpg

America or BUST? What's he gonna blow up next?

BURST...EVEN WORSE

haha

http://www.stephenking.ru/movies/images/fullsize/langoliers/langoliers_1.jpg

"In Mypos we call this a Work of Art, like Bibbibobkas or Goat Lip Soup!"

This just reminds me of the time in college where I was walking home to my house one evening. As I was crossing my front lawn I saw this dude with his hoodie up standing on the median in front of my house. All of a sudden he started running straight towards me at full speed so I fucking decked him. Then it turned out to be my friend who was coming to visit and just saw me and thought it would be funny. And he was all hurt and whiney about it, but DON'T DO STUPID SHIT LIKE THAT IF YOU CAN'T DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES.

Really? Did it hurt your hand? I've never decked anyone before.

http://www.stephenking.ru/movies/images/thumbnails/langoliers/langoliers_7.jpg

"The Mypos International Airport always showers people in blood. I love America, why you no let me do this in airport? I have American flag!"

I'm putting it on the "Before I Die" list along with throwing a drink at someone.

i think punching someone in the face really hurts.

You can break knuckles.

It doesn't hurt if you follow through. I have 2 older brothers and we used to beat the shit out of each other.

But seriously, don't wear your hoodie up and suddenly run at a lone girl in the dark just like you don't wear ambiguously bomb-looking devices to places known for having things that blow up.

I've never decked anyone either but I assume it fucking hurts like hell, esp. if your knuckles connect with edges of teeth?

In dreams, if I have to attack or defend against somebody, I always high kick them, something I can't at all do in real life btw.

It probably also helped that my family activity growing up was 5 years of kickboxing.

what's this "pizza guy " story?

I now am imagining Jon, a person I have never met, doing a Sally O'Malley routine on an attacker.

"I can kick! And STRRRRRRRETCH! And KICK!"

Uh no, Yerac, that would be important information that you omitted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Douglas_Wells

My parents would be out for the night and I would get mad at my brothers and chase them around the house with gloves on trying to beat them up. One time, one was hiding in the shower and as he was trying to get out I slammed the sliding shower door on him and he just crumpled. Franz thinks I am too violent and I am always like "THAT'S BECAUSE YOU DID NOT HAVE BROTHERS GROWING UP!"

security guards should be reqired to have masters degrees if we're giving them all this wild power

otm

Somehow I completely missed that story about the pizza guy.

Except no one really wants to take those jobs for what salary they want to pay.

Man the day I'm sick at home is the day something actually happens in Boston.

Boston cops in being really idiotic self-righteous assholes non-shocker.

MIT student in being really idiotic faux-artist asshole non-shocker

art students are boring but at least they don't have guns

what a stupid world we live in

xp At least not REAL ones.

bell ftw

WOnder if you can bring a drum machine through an airport these days

-- sexyDancer, Friday, September 21, 2007 3:23 PM (52 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/05/09/amazing-lifehack-pack-a-starter-pistol-to-deter-luggage-theft/

that girl isn't even cute -- WHY ARE WE DEFENDING HER

^JW takes it to the next level of VICE-ness.

she looks like Jade from ANTM.

she could definitely use some conditioner. also the peroxide seems to have gone to her brain.

Surmounter to thread.

lol "WHAT A BRILLIANT HACK"

this would just be another tale of "small city officials want to pretend their city is a big, important place" blah blah stupid but the whole "WELL WE WOULD HAVE SHOT HER IF SHE HADN'T COOPERATED" bit just takes it to a whole new level. yes, your penis is gigantic. good job, hero man, you have saved the city again.

also MIT students have no common sense. this was probably the first time she'd been outside in months.

Yeah the use of the word "LUCKY" was the initial rage-maker for me.

OH WAIT, IS THIS LIKE THE TIME THAT GUY TOLD ME I WAS "LUCKY" HE DIDN'T TAKE ME OFF THE SUBWAY WITH HIM?? Because that really pissed me off.

I'm just mad about affirmative action.

she should go on a date with taser boy

yA - it's more like dude's lucky for not having shot a dimwitted MIT student.

we are all lucky to live in rich countries where we are free to be afraid of the police and the arbitrary boogeymen they have concocted

this thread was worth it for yerac's stories about punching

WELCOME TO THE WAY THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN FOR AT LEAST THE PAST TWO HUNDRED YEARS, TOM

i'm not afraid of the police as long as i don't have a fake bomb strapped to me

YES AND WITH THE HELP OF OUR LUCKY CITIZENS IT WILL STAY THAT WAY FOREVER, DAN

hey freedom is doing what rudy giuliani tells you to do.

I got yelled at in the Reno airport a couple months ago for putting my sneakers on top of my laptop in one x-ray bin. I'm lucky to be alive.

jonathan richman yells at you if you put your beer on the stage.

one time the dude from sweep the leg johnny yelled at me and my friends for slam dancing

Criminals, all.

I once saw Art Alexakis yell at the entire venue for being seated.

nice everclear shout out

LOOSE CANNON

SHE PLAYS BY HER OWN RULES

YES AND WITH THE HELP OF OUR LUCKY CITIZENS IT WILL STAY THAT WAY FOREVER, DAN

Until our society falls over, this is exactly correct. There is nothing about our current political/governmental process that would prevent this precise scenario from happening. You could start lobbying to change the way airport security is run but you would be blocked by Democrats and Republicans who would paint you as wanting to give terrorists free reign in airports, plus most American citizens would not support this because it comes across as wanting to encourage people to do insanely stupid shit in airports like wearing things that could be mistaken for bombs into an airport.

This entire situation is stupid and sucks; if I had my way, everyone involved would be locked up for either being too stupid to be outside or too stupid to understand that no one actually wants airport security to go all Rambo on random people. Ranting about how ludicrous it is that anyone could possibly find anything at all alarming about what this girl had on is a combination of the worst aspects of Monday Morning Quarterbacking mixed in with a blanket dismissal of basic airport securit tenets; you are all reacting as if this girl should have even been stopped and questioned, which frankly is a batshit insane and appallingly stupid position to take. She should have been apprehended and questioned. She maybe even should have had a charge brought against her which could then be passed as probation or something; I think that's dubious but, to my knowledge, there are signs up all over the Boston airport that basically say "We will prosecute you with whatever we can get away with if you give us the impression that you have a bomb, even if you are making a 'lol I has a bomb' joke," so it's not like it's a surprise or unspoken rule about being in that (or any other) airport. Airport security should NOT be making press conferences stating, "BXTCH YOU LUCKY WE DIN'T WET'CHA" as that completely removes any sense of professionalism or credibility from their actions, particularly when they massively overreacted in the first place.

Finally, shouting at each other over this on ILE isn't going to change things, either, so I'm dropping this now and going back to my original "lol Boston sux, esp. if you look like you might not be white" stance.

I don't think race had anything to do with it.

Baltimore has its own little poem about racism on public transport.

I think the fact that she's Hawaiian had a lot to do with it

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:2l8RUj5F-iwJ:stars.mit.edu/me.html+http://stars.mit.edu/me.html&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us

Before that, I lived for a long time in Hawaii, while traveling the world and saving the planet from evil villains with my delivered-just-in-time gadgets.

THWARTED

is that dumber than cops' jack bauer fantasies y/n

At least the airport cops get to sleep sometime, whereas Bauer has had to work 4+ 24-hour shifts. Man better be getting hell of overtime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aafia_Siddiqui

Population by Race in Boston, 2005
Asian American (not Hispanic or Latino) 45,359 8.7%
White (not Hispanic or Latino) 253,237 48.6%
Black or African American (not Hispanic or Latino) 122,256 23.5%
American Indian and Alaska Native (not Hispanic or Latino) 1,373 0.3%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander (not Hispanic or Latino) 0
Some other race (not Hispanic or Latino) 15,606 3.0%
Two or more races (not Hispanic or Latino) 6,377 1.2%
Hispanic or Latino 76,494 14.7%

How come Italians get to be White?

http://www.walkenworks.com/true16a.jpg

SOME OTHER RACE

I think that was household data

2000 census

One race 563263 95.61%
White 320944 54.48%
Black or African American 149202 25.33%
American Indian and Alaska Native 2365 0.4%
Asian 44284 7.52%
Asian indian 4442 0.75%
Chinese 19638 3.33%
Filipino 1405 0.24%
Japanese 2384 0.4%
Korean 2564 0.44%
Vietnamese 10818 1.84%
Other Asian 3033 0.51%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander 366 0.06%
Native Hawaiian 84 0.01%
Guamanian or Chamorro 44 0.01%
Samoan 77 0.01%
Other Pacific Islander 161 0.03%
Some other race 46102 7.83%
Two or more races 25878 4.39%

http://www.census.gov/prod/2001pubs/c2kbr01-14.pdf

let's get this party started

The real crime is the hairdo.

well now she has a job! making license plates! BOXCAR!#%&!

-- s1ocki, Friday, September 21, 2007 12:01 PM (8 hours ago)

fixed. also, dan otm

Anyone stupid enough to wear something like that on their shirt deserves what they get. Anyway, what is a bomb "supposed" to look like? As long as you have explosive material, you can pretty much package it whatever way you want.

I think no bomb in the history of bombs has ever had to have blinking LEDs on it, though. Cops be watchin' too much TV.

Anyway, what is a bomb "supposed" to look like?

Ask the chorus of "don't wear bomb looking shit" repeaters upthread.

http://i5.tinypic.com/5xpxliw.jpg

how about dont carry bomb-looking shit into airports

Yeah! Walk in naked. Of course be sure to not wear a tampon or the security might think it's a fuse.

security overreacted

shirt blinking = prob a bad look

girl = kinda cute

settled?

nope.

doesn't address the hairdo.

<i>“She said that it was a piece of art and she wanted to stand out on career day,” Pare said.

There was a career fair at the university on Thursday, according to the university’s Web site.</i>

Hahaha my dad was there recruiting! I'll have to ask him if he heard about this or saw other amusing art projects.

Keep in mind that she also had Play-Doh in her hands too, which could have been thought to be C-4. On their own, the LEDs, the battery, or the play-doh would probably seem harmless, but all together (and on a circuit board) it does start to resemble something that most people would describe as "bomb-like".

I mean, I know this is America and not a police state blah blah blah but if you don't have the common sense not to wear bomb-looking shit (thx s1ocki) to airports maybe getting a bunch of guns in your face will scare a bit of common sense into you.

yea maybe if you're a dumb cop

If we give you submachine guns, you should know better than "most people."

Musically, yes, bombers usually flash all their ingredients to the safety cops. "Hey look, I'm about to bomb a plane! RAH RAH"

It's not so much taht they had suspicions, but how they reacted to it. Which reminds me how it can be totally the opposite. You can't take fluids on board now (at some aeroports anyway). When I had some in my bag, they said:"Oh hell, we'll say it's for the baby, right?"

You can't just go by what terrorists "usually" do. I suppose most people who try to get guns on a plane take great pains to stash them somewhere where they can't easily be found. But does that mean that if someone carries a gun-looking thing in their hand and strolls into the airport, should people go "well, gunmen USUALLY don't carry their guns on their person like that so it's probably no big deal"?

Now Osama's gonna get us with ridiculous looking blinky TV bombs because we let our guard down.

If she'd done this at Heathrow they'd've shot her in the head 7 times just to be sure.

http://images.salon.com/tech/machinist/blog/2007/09/21/star_simpson/story.jpg

that looks even less like a bomb than i previously thought

oh christ almighty she goes to MIT and THAT'S what she made?

I'm sure the career fair was really fucking impressed.

I'm really let down by this.

People who know how to make bombs usually know how to solder.

don't wear cribbage boards to the airport

Does simply thinking this person is an idiot (i.e. sure, I think airport security is a joke; sure, I think cops overreacted, etc., but I still think this Star Simpson is a total shithead) constitute "pathetic genuflection to authority"?

you should be GRATEFUL that we did not SHOOT YOU for wearing a stupid art project that, incidentally, does not actually look like a bomb at all!

i think it was the silly putty in her hands that provoked the reaction. i'd rather have the cops draw on some immature d-bag than have a plane i'm on blown to hell by a fistful of c-4.

Gah, the cops can't win this one, can they? Of course it's all ridiculous and stuff, but

- whether or not it looks like a bomb is completely irrelevant. Imagine YOU were making a bomb to smuggle on board a plane. Would you design it to look like a bomb? So security has to check out things that look like bombs, but also (and especially) things that don't. (the less it looks like a bomb, the more chance it is one, with these DIY things people are coming up with lately - shoe soles? cell phone parts?)

- when something catches their attention, should they ask for more information first or point their guns and yell? Asking "hey, what's that?" would be enough for someone to push on the button. So they point guns and yell first, looking like they exaggerate every time they do it.

:-/

Yes, a good way to spread common sense is waving guns in the face.

Of course it isn't, but if I were them I'd rather do that than risk being wrong and see someone push their detonator button right in front of me.

seriously, what's the point of this other than to provoke? you know you'll be going through a metal detector, you know there are local, state, and federal LEOs, you know that logan is hypersensitive to terrorism, what the fuck did she think was going to happen?

attention whorism/hair dresser sponsorship - and it has worked, we've all seen her hairdo

Is that scotch tape holding it together?

What, her hairdo?

lolz

I think I made that "bomb" when I was six!

http://i8.tinypic.com/4vikx1k.jpg

Lights on/other hairdo:

http://i7.tinypic.com/5ya33g3.jpg

(omg, it's star-shaped and she's called Star, how artistic)

http://www.media.mit.edu/physics/pedagogy/fab/machine/users/faces/stars.jpg

?

(that's from http://www.media.mit.edu/physics/pedagogy/fab/machine/users/ )

all this proves is that boston is still the most racist, classist, reactionary city in america

How much do you want to bet Star’s got a trust fund, and that her parents are aging hippie types?

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1033247

http://multimedia.heraldinteractive.com/images/7b52752963_bomb09222007.jpg

Yep, that one guy basically sums up what everyone in Boston thinks about everything.

omg is that ed anger xxp

no offense, my sister and many friends live in boston, and from my experiences i have no trouble believing he sums up what many people think about a lot of things

Hmm. Results of the poll on Carr (that columnist)'s site (http://www.howiecarr.com/) :

What should happen to Star Simpson, the MIT student who wore a fake bomb strapped to her chest into Logan Airport?

Probation and Fine
30%
Jail Time
50%
She should be Tasered
20%

taserers: OMG heroes or def. not douchebags?

no offense, my sister and many friends live in boston, and from my experiences i have no trouble believing he sums up what many people think about a lot of things

hey just because you're sister is a racist doesn't mean everyone is.

you're? ok, i need a nap. or a fucking cigarette.

jesus who is howie carr and why is he allowed to write things for a living

WHO WEARS SHORT SHORTS?!!?

Carr likes a bit of controversy every now and then: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howie_Carr

The fact that she's an MIT student isn't going to help her at all when they make a ruling...it's going to be hard for her to plead ignorance, since most people hold MIT students in fairly high esteem. Can we really believe that an intelligent person can go to the airport and not go "hmm, could wearing all this (circuitboard, wires, battery, play-doh) in an airport with a history of terrorism issues, in a city where there was a terrorism 'scare' involving LEDs, potentially be a bad idea?". She's either a complete moron, or a complete asshole.

How do you interpret Star Simpson’s actions at Logan International Airport? (bostonherald.com)

7% - She was making an artistic statement.
4% - She was making a political statement.
41% - She was looking for attention and she got it.
48% - She must have missed the news reports on Sept. 11 2001. Otherwise, there’s no excuse.

to be fair, my friends and family are almost all (one exception) out-of-towners who go to fancy colleges in boston, so i've def observed the sort of behavior that might explain local resentment toward out-of-town college kids

actually looks like 89% of the public is buying the "complete moron" line

She's either a complete moron, or a complete asshole.

they're not mutually exclusive.

fwiw if she was there to pick up her boyfriend she wouldn't have been thinking about dealing with security/metal detector.

they're not mutually exclusive.

Definitely true, but she's at least one of them.

fwiw if she was there to pick up her boyfriend she wouldn't have been thinking about dealing with security/metal detector.

Yes.

She must have missed the news reports on Sept. 11 2001

She'd have been 13.

That has nothing to do with anything, it just strikes me as interesting.

wow this Carr guy:

"Illegal Immigrant Driver Roll Call"

In an infamous and recurrent Carr segment, Carr reads off the names of traffic violators from police blotters. The name of the offender is read in an exaggerated Spanish-accented English (though not all of the offenders are from Spanish-speaking nations), along with the offender's traffic violation, typically drunk driving, driving without a valid license, driving without proof of insurance, and/or driving without valid registration. After each name is read the first few bars of "La Cucaracha" is played in a car horn rendition. The segment is usually bookended around Carr's opinions on the dangers of illegal immigrants.

Somewhere out there, right this moment, a child is saying "Mommy, what's a pre-9/11 mentality?"

I don't understand the importance of her being 13 in 9/11. She's 19 NOW, and we have 9/11 and terrorism shoved down our throats every minute so even if you slept in that day it's hardly any kind of excuse.

jesus christ.

if you're not as paranoid as us, there must be something wrong with you

HI MUSICALLY CAN YOU READ AT ALL? I AM WRITING IN ALL CAPS IN CASE YOU CAN'T READ LOWERCASE

You said it was "interesting," which generally implies that there's some importance to whatever is in question. I assumed whatever interest you had in it was relevant to the topic and discussion at hand, so I made a stab at what you could possibly find interesting or relevant about her being 13 in 2001. Obviously I missed the mark so if you could clarify I would be ever so appreciative. Or, feel free to totally flip out.

He also said That has nothing to do with anything, which implies that there's no importance to the question. Who, oh who, can unravel the riddle that is Nabisco's Brain???

STOP FEEDING THE TROLL.

OM NOM NOM NOM

(see, a lot of us old fogies like to comment on events of the past that make us feel fucking old - it'll happen to you)

xpost (and point taken)

Who's a troll? Not me, I hope. I just assume that even if a post is qualified by saying "this is totally irrelevant," certainly there's a reason why, of all the pointless facts tied to this, the particular one is picked.

Balki Bartolkomos.

So, she's 19 and her boyfriend is 42? O_o

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/general/view.bg?articleid=1033642

Okay Michele McPhee should be beaten with a bat. Translating the MIT campus into the same context as an airport is not particularly smart or logical.

t seems that Simpson had worn her bizarre ensemble for days before she showed up at Logan airport with it. All part of Career Day, she later told cops. No one on campus thought it prudent to tell her to take it off, especially considering that it is just days past the six-year anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

*_*

why are stupid people in charge of anything 8[

or, like, paid to offer their idiot opinions

Oh ffs, Musically, you're right, here's a cookie, now gloat.

More to the point, how come I'm not getting paid to offer my idiot opinion?

She would have been even more surprised if the police - rightfully - opened fire and turned her little art project into a scene that would have made last week’s screeching from just-tasered University of Florida student Andew Meyer look like a kid being tickled.

srsly??????

like, this woman actually just said that the cops SHOULD HAVE SHOT AND KILLED Star Simpson.

The thing you have to remember here is that this editorial ran in the Boston Herald, which is the right-wing nutjob freakazoid dipshit newspaper in town.

i'm tempted to write a letter all the same.

By all means, do so! Just bear in mind that this is the newspaper in town that still thinks Bush is awesome.

Oh ffs, Musically, you're right, here's a cookie, now gloat.

um, okay?

letter sent

Ms. McPhee --

I have a question regarding one particular passage in today's column:

She would have been even more surprised if the police - rightfully - opened fire and turned her little art project into a scene that would have made last week’s screeching from just-tasered University of Florida student Andew Meyer look like a kid being tickled.

Emphasis mine, obviously.

Am I right in concluding that you believe that it would have been perfectly acceptable for the police to shoot and kill a 19 year old girl for wearing an ill-advised bit of fashion that---and this is important, so pay attention---wasn't even intended to be deceptive? Did Star Simpson deserve to be shot simply because of a poor decision on her part and the police force's now-legendary lack of familiarity with actual explosives?

I anxiously await your clarification.

Best,

XXXXXX
Chicago, IL

well done. you are a good citizen

IMHO, she's not saying she thinks it's right, she's saying the cops would have been within their rights to shoot - if they thought it was a bomb, shooting her would be self defense and acceptable. (that's how I read "rightfully" in that sentence: rightful = legally valid)

especially considering that it is just days past the six-year anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Because everyone knows that 9/21 is super-symbolic in terrorism circles!

lolwtf at the poll on that latest BH editorial...holding MIT responsible for what happened? How about going after Duracell too?

That really is the weirdest part of this -- SO MANY people crowing that they coulda and woulda and maybe SHOULDA, umm ... misidentified a target and killed an unarmed non-threatening citizen, not considered a positive result under any security guidelines in the universe

Please don't make me type "LOL WELCOME TO BOSTON" again.

I'm not entirely sure it would have been legally valid, though. Like, there's got to be some due diligence, however cursory. And I think we've established that at least some of us believe that airport security personnel should probably be able to see the difference between a fucking circuit board and puff paint and like a giant vest of C4.

So no, I think that if they shot her, just walking around in the airport, pawing silly putty, they would have been legally and morally in the wrong, and that the inevitable civil case brought by her parents would be a successful one.

there are like a billion medical schools in boston and i didn't apply to a single one because i'm pretty sure i hate it there

^^^^^^^ wise

That really is the weirdest part of this -- SO MANY people crowing that they coulda and woulda and maybe SHOULDA, umm ... misidentified a target and killed an unarmed non-threatening citizen, not considered a positive result under any security guidelines in the universe

-- nabisco, Monday, September 24, 2007 6:33 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

yeah, this is the O_o part that I think maybe some people upthread missed? Whatever, she's dumb/naive/whatever, but throwing the book at her/shooting her/etc doesn't turn her into a terrorist, it just makes Boston look dumb for the second time. Why are you guys high-fiving each other for being bad at being cops, dudes???

there's stuff to like about boston, but man, i cannot imagine ever driving around there, the downtown map is completely crazypants

I think that some people got, understood and agree with that point but still think that "How could you possibly think that was a bomb????" is not a very smart argument.

(Some of those people also like switching tenses in compound sentences. Fuck.)

i guess it doesn't matter whether or not you or i think it looks like a bomb, it's whether or not the anti-bomb-guy in the airport thinks it might be.

if s/he does, then they go "hey you is that a bomb? fuck it, we're gonna find out for ourselves."

then they find out that it isn't, that it was never intended to even look like one, and they scold the person for being a dummy and send them home.

again, cops otm for checking her out. that's their job. once it's revealed that it's just a dumb art project, call cutty, have him slap her, and say yr dum go home and solder something.

charging her with, like, crimes is o_O

-- river wolf, Friday, September 21, 2007 7:13 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Link

I think they ended up giving the Cartoon Network community service instead of jail time/fine, and I think that seems like the reasonable thing to do in this case as well. Unless they could prove that she was purposely trying to case a scene, which doesn't seem likely at this point.

I think probation, if charges are pursued, is wholly appropriate here. The best case scenario would be to drop the whole thing and pretend it never happened but seeing as Boston is Da Land O' Posturing I don't see that happening.

river wolf that's good but see if you can find out who the editor of her section/department is, and send it to that person too

i cc'd it to the letters to the editor, as well, having unsuccessfully (45 secs) tried to find her editor in particular

Simpson had worn her bizarre ensemble for days

so she wore the same clothes for days or was her LED thing not attached?

http://www.personneltoday.com/blogs/human-resources-guru/fashionpolice.jpg

"police"

so she wore the same clothes for days or was her LED thing not attached?

Remember we are talking about an MIT student here. (sorry geeta! harvard kids do it too)

maybe it's normal MIT kid behavior. but maybe it's not?

Dude, it is.

well, ok, even if it is, maybe she has problems beyond just being caught up in stuff and oblivious?

Yeah, cause wearing the same hoodie every day is indicative of a disorder.

ask ian

I read "ensemble" and assumed that referred to more than one article of clothing. Sure, there are lots of kids who wear the same hoodie every day. Their hoodies don't have circuit boards on them, though.

I suppose if you're really proud of your circuitboardhoodie, you would wear it a lot. But I don't think that's the only possible reason here.

If you wear a fucking hoodie a lot, and that is what you have put on it, then that is what you are going to be wearing a lot.

Plus there are a ton of nerdy college students who wear the same clothes multiple days in a row.

hi guys ive been wearing the same hoody every time its been cold out for the last 2+ weeks (most nights) and teh same pair of jeans for like four weeks or something and i would rather not be shot by the police pls thanks

about 2 weeks ago I ran into about 5 people I had seen the night before out. It was embarrassing because I was wearing the exact same outfit, but then we all realized every single one of us was wearing the exact same outfit as the night before.

gabbneb stfu

wear jeans until u can strain a good stew out of them.

Plus there are a ton of nerdy college students who wear the same clothes multiple days in a row.

in college there was a (Samoan, incidentally) guy who wore this thing that I don't remember if it was a long coat or a bathrobe (perhaps you couldn't tell at the time either?) every day. one day in calc he pulled a slice of pizza out of the pocket.

sorry rw? i don't know why we can't consider if she might be a little off?

the question is why would we consider that? oh no she's in college and she wore the same clothes for a few days, she must be "off"

she also went to an airport wearing a circuit board and holding clay in her hands to meet her boyfriend of more than twice her age.

She also ate a kitten using a spork.

The week in Russian 101 where we had to practice saying what we were wearing was made much funnier by the one guy who wore the same thing every day. I thought I was above that but by the time I graduated...no. Totally normal college behavior.

(xpost) (Which is the real tragedy here because how often do you find a spork-wielding kitten?)

what sleep said

i don't think the article is clearly stating she just wore the same sweatshirt for a few days.

and i think the question whether she's "off" or not is unrelated to whether the police overreacted

wait, how the fuck do we actually know she was meeting her boyfriend (earlier articles just said 'a friend'), and that he's 42 (only the boston herald has claimed this to my knowledge)? I mean I really don't think the Boston Herald's doing a lot of fact-checking in their slam fest of a 19 year old. And even if it's true, why does it matter?

Basically, LOL at out-of-towners who make the mistake of paying attention to the Herald.

yeah, i admit i haven't paid much attention to these articles or where they come from

Basically, LOL at out-of-towners who make the mistake of paying attention to the Herald.

-- HI DERE, Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:56 PM (Tuesday, September 25, 2007 1:56 PM)

seriously, this is the best part of this whole thing.

i wear the same hoodie like every day

me too and I bought it four years ago and washed it like twice.

i have never worn a hoodie (or a "hoo-die"). perhaps i am prejudic-ed against hoodie-wearers.

why am i not surprised.

i don't know?

is it morally wrong that i have never worn a hoodie?

i went for about a year of college wearing and XL wu wear hoodie until it was stolen. that must have looked kind of ridiculous, in retrospect.

I bet it was comfy tho.

yes, very!

I'm sorry, gabbneb, but why the fuck am I supposed to be concerned about how old her fucking BF is?

hmm, I don't think I said you were? perhaps it's totally irrelevant to anything. why did you use 'fuck' twice?

stfu

hi omar little, who are you?

i'm not trying to make anyone mad, but i seem to be doing htat

why the fuck should I be fucking reading about how he the fuck is? (xpost)

j/k - chill, everyone. Nobody exploded, nobody died, it was just a misunderstanding and that's it.

why did you use 'fuck' twice?

Because I'm a sailor from fucking Vestal, you priggish fuck.

oops xpost, hi bff etc

Because I'm a sailor from fucking Vestal, you priggish fuck.

hmm, I don't understand anything you're saying. except the sailor bit, i guess.

oh now i get it - you're saying that i think it's immoral for her to be involved with a guy twice her age. but that wasn't what i was saying/thinking.

half your age plus eight
42 = 29

do you bill your ilx time to clients, gabbneb?

again, you guys are assuming facts based on the reporting of a paper that is like a more reactionary, less fact-based version of the NY Post.

i never got a response to my letter

no, gean. that doesn't seem like a very apposite inquiry, tho.

i wear the same hoodie like every day

-- s1ocki, Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:02 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

me too and I bought it four years ago and washed it like twice.

-- jessie monster, Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:03 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

i went for about a year of college wearing and XL wu wear hoodie until it was stolen. that must have looked kind of ridiculous, in retrospect.

-- bell_labs, Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:09 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

SOMEONE GOT YOU ALL IN CHECK:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/52/106104283_8653f796f5.jpg?v=0

holy shit i just remembered that my all-time favorite hoodie is languishing in the back seat of some asshole i used to work at the mountain with

TREVOR. U GONNA DIE.

why is he going to die, because theres a bomb attached to it?????

shhhhhh!

no, it's actually because i never washed it that often

holy shit i just remembered that my all-time favorite hoodie is languishing in the back seat of some asshole i used to work at the mountain with

:|

hahahahahah

WHOOPS