Chicago: Interesting to Type, but Perhaps not to Read

Oh hi! What's this thread about?

I don't remember coming up with the thread title btw. http://c33.statcounter.com/3032343/0/0ed6af50/0/

New thing I learned yesterday: not only do Eric and I both know nearly every lyric to every song on Billy Joel's The Stranger album, but after a few beers we are not shy about singing them on the street.

I wrote a song the other day with a bridge that goes Am-G-C-D7, and Matt P. said the D7 sounded like a "Billy Joel chord."

I took this as a compliment, even though I'm not sure he meant it as one.

Elton John chords are better, imo. :)

New thing I learned yesterday: not only do Eric and I both know nearly every lyric to every song on Billy Joel's The Stranger album, but after a few beers we are not shy about singing them on the street.

wow. that's..... just wow. i don't know what.... singing on the street, huh? wow.

The rest of the song I wrote uses a chord progression that sounds like the Beatles' "Something," TLC's "Waterfalls," and Lenny Kravitz's "It Ain't Over Til It's Over." Maybe a touch of "Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head," too.

xpost Next time I think we'll do An Innocent Man, full on doo-wop style, standing on a corner.

xpost Next time I think we'll do An Innocent Man, full on doo-wop style, standing on a corner.

-- kenan, Tuesday, October 9, 2007 11:26 AM (Tuesday, October 9, 2007 11:26 AM) Bookmark Link

kenan, for your own sake and as a public service to the residents of chicago and cook county, i'm going to beat you to death with a tire iron.

Seventh chords always sound like Beatles chords to me.

The rest of the song I wrote uses a chord progression that sounds like the Beatles' "Something," TLC's "Waterfalls," and Lenny Kravitz's "It Ain't Over Til It's Over." Maybe a touch of "Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head," too.

I have yet to hear this song, but from this description you sound like a HIT MACHINE. Man, just lay back and watch the royalty checks roll in.

Please don't beat me to death, Kevin. Here is my solemn vow: whenever we are in each other's company, with or without beer, there will be no singing. None. At all.

The rest of the song I wrote uses a chord progression that sounds like the Beatles' "Something," TLC's "Waterfalls," and Lenny Kravitz's "It Ain't Over Til It's Over." Maybe a touch of "Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head," too.

I have yet to hear this song, but from this description you sound like a HIT MACHINE. Man, just lay back and watch the royalty checks roll in.

-- kenan, Tuesday, October 9, 2007 11:29 AM (Tuesday, October 9, 2007 11:29 AM) Bookmark Link

see, to me this sounds like something the cia would use on me if i ever found myself interned at gitmo.

it's the billy joel, kenan. i have no choice in the matter.

Billy Joel is one of those guys where you could go see him in a three-hour concert and know every single song.

Also, "Let 'Em In" by Wings.

no, i really couldn't go see him for three hours.

Yes, but then you'd have to kill yourself. hahah xxp

And what can I say, I bought The Stranger LP when I was 8 or 9 and learned all the songs then. But Kenan and I pwned "Scenes".

See, now you know that my drunken exploits are just as shameful and nasty as all of yours, just in a different way.

I don't think I've actually heard that much Billy Joel, but one of the reasons why I am eager to get a stereo system is so that I can finally listen to the copy of The Nylon Curtain I apparently own on vinyl.

I think I probably only know like 3 or 4 Billy Joel songs: "We Didn't Start the Fire," "Piano Man," "Uptown Girl," and uh probably one or two more I've forgotten.

it's the billy joel, kenan. i have no choice in the matter.

I do not love Billy Joel. This was discussed last night. Eric and I both know that record by heart because when you're a young'un, stuff like that sticks in your head. I have no choice in the matter, either.

That said, "Piano Man" is half of a great, sad song about pathetic drunks. (The other half is self-congratulation.)

kevin OTM

Anyone who saw my WDYLL post yesterday saw my friend @d@m (aka the President of Minnesota), with whom my friends and I have had a long-running inside joke/diatribe about Billy Joel being "punk rock". @d@m is fervently convinced of Mr. Joel's punk rockingness while the rest of us pretty much think he's crazy. That's what growing up in the middle of a field in far western Minnesota will do to you.

I actually like Uptown Girl, I'm ambivalent about WDStF, and I hate Piano Man with a burning burning passion.

so that I can finally listen to the copy of The Nylon Curtain I apparently own on vinyl

oh noes, is Klosterman responsible for this purchase?

I saw Billy Joel in concert back in high school. Hated him then, ambivalent now, but he did put on a pretty entertaining show.

I am all jaymc when it comes to Billy Joel. I know maybe 2.5 songs. Elton John, less than that.

Billy Idol > Billy Joel

and uh probably one or two more I've forgotten.

"Just the Way You Are," "It's Still Rock and Roll To Me," and "River of Dreams" are the only other ones I know, I think.

i have vague (repressed?) memories of the glass houses and streetlight serenade lps and the 52nd st 8-track being in my parents collection. i've hated him for at least 27 years.

Oh I know "Just the Way You Are," it was the demo track on my first keyboard. It's pretty awful. The other two, I don't think I know.

I just threw out that keyboard this past week, I'd had it since I was like 12.

I do not love Billy Joel. This was discussed last night. Eric and I both know that record by heart because when you're a young'un, stuff like that sticks in your head. I have no choice in the matter, either.

Aye. Up to and including knowing all the words to The Stranger. Except I hate the song Piano Man and think it's all crap.

"Just The Way You Are" -- I mean, the guy wrote a Timeless American Standard in the old school Tin Pan Alley sense.

oh noes, is Klosterman responsible for this purchase?

Note that I said "apparently own." Meaning I have no idea where it came from. Most of my vinyl is inherited from either my grandma (Martin Denny, Frank Sinatra, etc.), my parents (Miles Davis, Chuck Mangione, etc.), or one of my mom's old co-workers, who gave me a couple boxes of classic-rock albums. I'm guessing it came from that stash.

Also, wasn't Glass Houses the one that Klosterman championed?

How much money do you think Casio paid Billy Joel so they could use "Just the Way You Are" as the demo track on what seems like all their consumer-level keyboards produced in the mid-'80s?

My guess is SERIOUS money.

Also, wasn't Glass Houses the one that Klosterman championed?

Both, actually. He is a small, small man.

I just threw out that keyboard this past week, I'd had it since I was like 12.

Oh noes, I was looking to get a super-cheap thrift-store keyboard to keep at home, in addition to the one I cart back and forth from rehearsal. Guess I'll hit the pawn shop.

http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Late_Night_with_Conan_O

I write a new verse of "We Didn't Start the Fire" every few years. Right now, I'm up to -- "A-Rod, Ipod, Jacko's Free, There's No God."

When people tell me they love the song "Just the Way You Are," I tell them I wrote it about a transvestite hooker I picked up on night in the village. Sure, it's not true, but it never fails to ruin the song for them.

1982, I was riding my motorcycle when a car ran into me. it really opened my eyes. I realized -- of course, car accidents.

Elton John and I became really good friends. I don't mean "good friends" in that sense. I just mean we slept together.

I don't like the song "Piano Man". Kenan and I were debating whether Paul was a real-estate novelist in the sense of writing about real estate (a la Richard Ford's Independence Day) or if he was a realtor who still worked on his novel at night and drank a lot too.

KLosterman championed a song on The Nylon Curtain - some song I don't think I've ever heard (from that album I only know "Allentown", "Pressure", "Scandinavian Skies" and the Vietnam Vet one).

I've got a tiny, super-cheap Casio keyboard at home. I keep meaning to get a bunch of effects pedals to make it sound all nasty.

oh man I love the secrets bit

This keyboard was pretty crappy, it was only two or three octaves with small keys and some of the keys were snapped off. Plus I think some of the wiring was fucked. So I don't think it would have been much use, John. It was part of a general wave of getting rid of crap that I don't use anymore.

Ah. Yeah, a few years ago I had to get rid of the keyboard I used exclusively from 1990-97 because it was busted. I'm just upset that the Casio I used for the next seven years was in the trunk of my car when it was stolen. That was a decent keyboard.

So "never had time for a wife" Paul is talking with "Navy for life" Davey at a piano bar. Hmmm.

Vietnam Vet one

goodnight saigon? the one with the really over the top chorus of "we will AAAAALLLLL go down together"?

at the claddagh pub, in lawrence, ma this song was in the jukebox for a brief period of time, i'd always change the lyrics to "they will all go down on kevin" but it never quite caught on.

Piano Man is about butt sexing! That should have been one of his Secrets.

Every now and then, I remember that I look way more like Chuck Klosterman than I am at all comfortable with. Then I push that thought to the back of my mind again.

ok, i go to record store now and hopefully get enough for cta fare to portage park and back and maybe enough left over for breakfast. have fun with billy joel.

Recently it seems that Klosterman has decided that "fat beardo" is a better look for him, and fortunately that is not on my horizon. So I'm safe for now. But if you see me eating too many carbs and getting a bit stubbly, please remind me where that road leads.

Confession: I sincerely like the song Allentown.

Allentown vs. Barrytown FITE

What's for lunch?

Balls. Mine.

Hey Lakeviewers and other northside folk: Where are the pedestrian/bike crossings for Lake Shore Drive?

There are dozens. Every big intersection, and lots of little tunnels and stuff through the park.

not exactly...how far north? north then not till fullerton, not diversy, belmont, roscoe, addison, and then all the big ones up to foster, i think. although the roscoe one is closed at the moment because of construction.

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z128/ericzieg/dartskenan.jpg

Kenan, Lindsay and I threw darts last night.

Kenan should adopt the fat beardo look, a la Rick Rubin.

P.S. We found a bar with free darts, free pool, and $7 pitchers.

I like the way my hand evaporates into a puff of smoke

http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z128/ericzieg/kenandarts2.jpg

so have u folks been playing with the google street view at all?? its crazy

Ewwww google street view. Bane of stalkers and scourge of women everywhere.

Well, women who don't cotton to the idea of being caught randomly on film and oogled by people on the internet, at least. Ladies, don't leave the house in immodest clothing! Don't sunbathe!

Don't shower!

Damn, I was going to go out to the corner of Jackson and Dearborn and do just that.

I really don't understand why people are so up in arms about Google Street View. I mean... this is exactly what any person walking down your street can see. So if you are really that concerned/ashamed about something you are wearing/doing on a public street, uh, don't do it. I can kinda see Jenny's point, but... again, there's always the chance of some random stranger taking a picture of you walking down the street too! Its not like Google invented this, they just made it easier to access.

No, I definitely think Street View brings up some very serious privacy issues, and someone needs to find a way to take legal action against it. Maybe someone who is... a lawyer? Do we know anybody like that?

Well, women who don't cotton to the idea of being caught randomly on film and oogled by people on the internet, at least.

what, men can't feel that way? sexist.

No, I definitely think Street View brings up some very serious privacy issues, and someone needs to find a way to take legal action against it

SOMEONE IS TAKING PICTURES IN PUBLIC, CALL THE COPS!!!!

they just made it easier to access. A lot easier.

Yeah, Kev, when there are entire web empires dedicated to clandestine photos of men's dressing rooms, bathrooms, and "up shorts" photos, I'll buy that.

Awesome! We get to have this conversation all over again! Altho this time it's not triggered by someone's taking clandestine photos of strangers in public.

Jon, my feeling is that when you leave the house you know people might/will see you -- but they are ALSO out and about exposing themselves to public view, so the level of freedom is equal: you can see them, too.

When a public scene is made into an image that can be circulated, it negates the equality -- the viewers are under no scrutiny themselves. If someone poses for a photo, they tacitly accept that change. When you don't know about the photo, I still think it's unjust.

ALSO WE XPOSTED THE USE OF "CLANDESTINE" -- JENNY SO OTM.

Wasn't there a widely-circulated street view pic of a dude coming out of a strip club?

Check this out, it's pretty priceless:

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2007/06/eff_privacy_adv.html

Some of you met Kevin when he was in town last year. The ironing is delicious.

Maybe I'm stupid or naive or something, but I really truly don't understand how a picture of whatever you may be wearing/doing on a public street is an invasion of privacy. If this van was zooming into windows or elevating above fences, thats one thing, but... I don't know. I just don't get it.

(x-post to Laurel)
But I feel like the Google van driving down your street would be fairly obvious! Then again, I've never seen it in person.

The pics sometimes capture views inside windows and in people's back yards.

Wait a second, there are definitely some street views where you can see into some windows -- I've seen links somewhere to at least one...? That's just the law of averages, SOME shots are going to be clearer than others.

Yeah, Kev, when there are entire web empires dedicated to clandestine photos of men's dressing rooms, bathrooms, and "up shorts" photos, I'll buy that.

-- Jenny, Tuesday, October 9, 2007 1:16 PM (Tuesday, October 9, 2007 1:16 PM) Bookmark Link

so until there are men can't "cotton to the idea of being caught randomly on film and oogled by people on the internet"?

xpost again

BUT HEY CLOSE YOUR SHADES, AMIRITE?

Kevin, I'm not going to have a WHAT ABOUT THE MEN argument with you about this. I chose not to speak for men. I chose to speak from the point of view of an average woman. You are more than welcome to feel like your privacy is invaded by google street views, or not.

Wow. I didn't realize this had come to Chicago! I'm looking at myself typing!

Not really. But there appears to be a woman in a burqah outside my building.

It's really happening! A woman was caught on camera!

Wait. That's not a burquah, that's just hair.

I'm not trying to argue this point, I just really don't think there is any invasion of provacy going on. Of course its a weird feeling to know that someone may be taking pictures of you without your knowledge... but it could (and probably is, with the widespread use of security cameras) be happening more than we know!

I hate invasion of "provacy".

burkah? Delta Burqah?

yep, there's my building.

so maybe I'm dumb, but how do i link to a particular view?

i guess i can understand the "in yr living room" bit, but would you really venture to say that someone on the street with a camera, snapping pictures is an invasion of privacy that ought to be illegal, or in some way regulated?

o_O

xpost Same as ever, just click "link to this page."

xpost I'm with EFF Kevin (not to be confused with Chicago Kevin): legal, but irresponsible, and should include facial obfuscation technology.

So if I'm walking down the street and I see a very architecturally interesting building and I stop to take a picture (which I do from time to time), I'm violating the privacy of the residents if they just happen to have an open window? That's just silly to me.

test

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&ie=UTF8&om=1&layer=c&ll=41.892247,-87.648754&spn=0.027921,0.058365&z=14&cbll=41.87792,-87.64956&cbp=1,314.0540228873237,0.5,0,-3.320580056559852

I work here.

actually it means that you are a terrorist xp

So are those images that get updated, or were they shot just once?

I was just going to ask that.

I don't think it should be regulated by the legal system, for heaven's sake. But I think the controversey generated by this thing is going to make people more mindful in general that some things should be approached with greater discretion. Battered women's shelters have requested to be taken off the database, and I seem to remember that Google obliged them (from an article somewhere). Special requests to have certain shots taken down and/or replaced with another version should probably be granted for any reasonable motivation, and I hope google continues to be ethical/cool about doing so, because they have to decide what's "reasonable" and I hope they do it with all compassion.

xpost I imagine it will work like the aerial views now, and they will update the pictures every few years.

Laurel that makes sense.

c.f. abortion clinics, AA meeting spots, etc.

Re taking random photos of buildings: is that photo going to be put on the internet in an indexed/searchable way so that everyone who MIGHT live there or know the area, ie the people most likely to NOT be a stranger to the subject of yr photo (or their apartment window), will see it? Even tagged Flickr imgs aren't likely to be that searchable/available.

When you take a pic for commercial purposes you have to get model releases FOR A REASON.

So if I'm walking down the street and I see a very architecturally interesting building and I stop to take a picture and I post that picture to the most accessed website in the history of the universe that includes technology that everybody who accesses that picture can use to zoom in on the window in the photo and that also, without anybody even having to do any research, includes the actual physical address and location of the building as well as a map that can provide handing driving directions and soon public transportation directions on how to get there (which I do from time to time), I'm violating the privacy of the residents if they just happen to have an open window.

big xposts Google will take your picture down if you ask them to, that's true. But that's not really enough. I could be on street view anywhere along about a 10 mile strip of city, and I'm going to search that carefully. If they automatically blurred out all faces, that would help a good bit.

I'm going to search that carefully

should say i'm NOT going to search that carefully

I'd like to think that I was interesting enough for someone to stalk me on Google Maps. But I'm not.

Someone new must be working behind the counter at Bake for Me. Instead of my half-soup/half-sandwich, I got a whole soup and a whole sandwich, and instead of mayo on the sandwich I got red and green bell peppers. Not that I'm complaining.

Does this thing actually have any function other than just being OMG KOOL AND KREEPY?

Like, how would this actually be useful?

I think the idea is giving you more of a sense of where you're going when looking at the map.

This is v v cool, and also tangentially relevant to the discussion: http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/129

Speaking as a former pizza delivery boy, I would have killed to have onboard Street View in my car.

http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2007/08/google-to-blur-.html

Ever since its launch, some privacy advocates have been criticizing Google Maps' Street Views tool for showing photographs of faces and license plate numbers. In response, Google has quietly changed its policy on how the company deals with privacy complaints about Street Views.

Google says the company's initial policy of allowing anyone who could identify themselves to ask for the image to be removed was not working. To address privacy concerns Google is now allowing anyone to alert the company and have an image of a license plate or a recognizable face removed even if it isn’t you or your car.

Google says the move is intended not just to protect privacy, but also to “clarify the intent of the product,” as vice president of search products and user experience at Google, Marissa Mayer, put it recently at the ongoing Search Engine Strategies conference.

CNet reports that Mayer says Google “looked at it and we thought that’s really silly because that’s not the point of this product. The purpose is to show what the stores look like, what houses look like, if someone says, ‘Hey, there’s a face here,’ … it doesn’t matter whose face it is.”

While it may not have been Google’s intent, that doesn’t mean users don’t love to dig through Street Views, for some highlights check out our earlier collection of the best of Google Street Views.

Good for apartment hunting.

HEY ASSHOLES, TURN ON YR PORCH LIGHT IF YOU MAYBE EVER WANT TO GET THIS PIZZA

I'm not sure, really. Hypothetically I guess if you wanted to know whether a certain establishment was still in operation, you could check its address? B/c a lot of the time yellow pages or other databases are out of date and you might get there to find chipboard over all the windows. Or see if a neighborhood appears to be sketchy before you plan a trip or activity? I'm sort of uptalking here because I'm not sure either of those are really all that plausible.

AH HA! I missed that news. Thanks, que.

I work in this stunning piece of modern architecture.

KENAN YOU WORK AT DAVE AND BUSTERS?!?!?!?!?!

If these are images that are taken once and might be updated once a year, then I can see the program serving the same function as a road map -- it just happens to be comprised of photographs instead of a drawn image. But if the images are updated regularly, then that's something closer to surveillance.

I don't really get why you would need to know what a building looks like if you have an address. And if I wanted to know if an establishment was still in business, I would just ... call them. But whatever. Sounds fun to play with, but doesn't work on my work computer because Flash isn't updated..

Man, I used to live just a few minutes away from that place, K. If I had turned my apartment over to you, you would have had the shortest commute in history.

xpost to dan: I work next door to dave and busters, yes. Different address, same structure.

LOOK YOU CAN SEE ME INSIDE THE FIRST ARCHED WINDOW TO THE RIGHT OF THE DOOR

ok not really

Nick, maybe because a lot of buildings don't have visible address numbers anywhere on them? Or you don't want to appear to be confused about the location, whether you're going to an interview or a sketchy part of town or whatever and you just want a little extra confidence.

Is Dave and Buster's just like Chuck E Cheeze for growned-ups? Is it fun?

I sort of assumed that it was not updated regularly, just every few years, so Street View would be just as out of date as the Yellow Pages in terms of places being out of business. I thought the main function was that if you were driving someplace unfamiliar, it would be extra-helpful because in addition to the address you would also know what the building looked like, what landmarks were around it, etc.

xp Yes, and sort of.

I've never been to Dave and Busters, but this article that EZ linked to a while back was good.

If you like arcade games, it's way fun. And stupid expensive. A $10 game card will last you all of 15 minutes.

My workplace (my apartment's not on Street View yet).

From my experience, Dave and Buster's is, more than anything else, loud. But if you like video games and Bennigan's-style food, it's not entirely without merit.

whoa, i just did a street view of my apartment and my friend cameron is riding his bike right past it!!! also, they put the marker in front of the wrong building.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=1100+N+Clark,+Chicago+IL&sll=41.902932,-87.631159&sspn=0.013,0.015321&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=41.90286,-87.631298&spn=0.0065,0.00766&z=17&om=0&cbll=41.90185,-87.63139&cbp=1,581.5614617940196,0.5,0,-2.6828783130010416

I just read a good review of this show on TV tonight, sounds like a good time.

and the photo is only about a month old because that '71 thunderbird that's outside was only showed up in september and has only had the permanent plates for about less than a month.

kevin, you linked to my workplace again

i don't know how i got the wrong link up there but i did.

After farting around with google maps street view, I think the privacy issues are mitigated by the photos are generally low res and infrequently updated, and as long as google remains VIGILANT and AGREEABLE about removing photos/blurring faces on request, it stands less of a chance of becoming a tool for domestic abusers/stalkers/abortion clinic bombers/upskirt photo jerker-offers to/psychos/etc.

by the fact that the photos, etc etc

yeah, sorry, try this? you may need to hit the left arrow to look west on thomas to see cameron. they put the marker about two buildings away.

This is potentially really really useful. If I'm going somewhere in an unfamiliar neighborhood it would be awesome to have an image (at least a mental image based on what I remember) to help orient me.

For example, I am interviewing at H & OC. I look up the address and find the streetview and see that it is a brick building across from a LaSalle Bank and the entrance is not on the same street as the address.

I have used the satellite view a lot in the past to do this, and the street view could change my life.

In some cases I will probably do Ctrl-Prt Scr and print off the image for later reference.

this should be my actual building if the link works. it should be the one in the middle or on the right.

I got lost on my way to the interview for the job I now have -- the entrance wasn't actually on the side of the building that the address was registered to. V confusing the first few times.

I was hoping to find me somewhere between my old apartment and the Damen Brown Line stop, but they haven't done that stretch yet, either.

They haven't made it down my street yet. Logan Square is a private place.

Oh whoa, I did not notice the "full screen" feature. I take back the "low res" part. Jesus. The pic for our apartment shows one recognizable face on the street and quite a few people who you might recognize if you knew them. You can't see in our window because there is a tree blocking it, but you can see the shampoo bottles on the windowsill of our neighbors bathroom window.

Also, say I'm at Courtney's house and I want Chinese food. EXTENSIVE googling and searching on Yelp have in the past not revealed that any Chinese restaurant exists anywhere nearby, despite the fact that I know there is one 3 blocks away. I could use the streetview to zoom down the street and read the sign (I actually walked down and saw that it was Hong Kong Chef), look them up by name, and call them.

xpost to Laurel--EXACTLY what happened when I interviewed for my current job.

BUT HEY if you don't want that info up on google maps, don't rent an apartment with a bathroom window, AMIRITE?

Hopefully they'll never take a pic from the Jewel parking lot since that one will point directly into our kitchen window.

Logan Square is a private place.

saturday night while me and amy were waiting for the 56 bus at milwaukee and kedzie there was a woman visiting chicago who was trying to hail a cab. we told her it would be quicker to get on the bus and go to western or better yet damen but she was afraid of riding the bus. apparently growing old and dying in logan square while waiting for a cab that was never gonna show didn't phase her.

i rode the bus for the first time yesterday.

it was okay!

i rode the bus for the first time yesterday.

what? how is that possible?

The first time ever????

xp - HA!

Jesse, quit being a crepe and IM me.

She should have walked up to Diversey/Kedzie. There's always cabs up there transiting back and forth to Lincoln Park. Of course, if she was afraid of the bus, then that intersection would probably have really freaked her out.

first time since i moved back, you DORKS

but basically the third time on a CTA bus ever

which bus?

She should have walked up to Diversey/Kedzie. There's always cabs up there transiting back and forth to Lincoln Park. Of course, if she was afraid of the bus, then that intersection would probably have really freaked her out.

we were at the corner for maybe all of four minutes, it was about 2 cycles of the traffic lights and she was propositioned both times the light turned red.

Ew, Jeff just emailed me to tell me that there is a picture that points into our kitchen window, taken about a month ago when they were putting in a new back staircase.

HOLY CRAP! http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&ie=UTF8&om=1&layer=c&ll=41.979783,-87.661028&spn=0.013941,0.029182&z=15&cbll=41.972652,-87.661551&cbp=1,356.6329225352113,0.5,2,-22.90138834524106

dave and busters is a good place for a blind date-- food/drinks plus stuff to do in case there's awkward silence.

the street view photo of our house is a) wrong (it's several houses off) and b) so blurry that you can hardly tell it's our house.

Address is approximate

That Dara Moskewitz article on Dave & Buster's is great.

Huh. Courtney's house refuses to show up. That stretch of Sheridan is fucked up. It shows up blue, as though it were available, but when I move the little figure there, it moves to Broadway.

and the view from Broadway to her building does not show her unit. It's blocked by a tree.

Time to email Google and ask for the tree to be photoshopped out.

Sarah, are you aware of this band?? http://www.myspace.com/sarahsarahjohnson

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&ie=UTF8&om=1&layer=c&ll=41.948447,-87.648797&spn=0.013948,0.029182&z=15&cbll=41.941299,-87.649304&cbp=1,297.6980985915493,0.5,1,9.05630129820765

No one coming out of Steamworks at this time.

Sarah's work internet is down but I think I found that band a couple of months ago and sent it to her.

holy crap indeed

That's recent, too. I just bought that fan about 6 weeks ago.

Holy crap, you guys, some of those shots you've posted are very squicky. Luckily my street hasn't been photo'ed at all, the nearest you can get is Washington Ave.

....squi-cky?

cky SUCKS

Hopefully they'll never take a pic from the Jewel parking lot since that one will point directly into our kitchen window.

Jenny, you just published this on the internet!

Jesse, do you have a bookshelf in front of your window? What's going on there?

To recent law school graduates, and successful bar exam takers:

If you hope to find a job then I recommend imporoving your communications skills beyond the point where you call and mutter "Hey. What's yer address?" And when I ask what the hell for, you can do better than to say "Yeh, uh, I went to ____________ College and I wanna mail you a resume."

That's my plant shelf. There are pictures on Flickr of me building it. And the plants falling off and hitting my head.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/48/135992757_3e3a9edf32_m.jpg

(From Google's new Apartmentview)

So now any potential date Kenan has can say to themselves "Hmmm...he's a fan-no-a/c guy..."

Jenny, you just published this on the internet!

?

There's a New York Times article in a Firefox tab at the bottom of my screen. The headline is "John Edwards Says Wife Elizabeth's Cancer Has Returned," but the tab only shows "John Edwards Says..." so I keep glancing down at it and thinking John Edwards is trying to Gmail-chat with me.

I'm sitting at my desk quietly LOLing.

LOQ

Jenny, you just published this on the internet!

?

I'm just saying that you're saying on the internet where to look in your windows...

Jesse, I'm looking on google street view and you should re-fill your cat's dish.

Except that I didn't include my address in that post!

There'll be a crowd of nerds in the Jewel parking lot early in the morning...

Jordan I'm looking at google street view and it looks kind of like you should SHUT YOUR GODAMN MOUTH!

oh shit thx

There'll be a crowd of nerds in the Jewel parking lot early in the morning...

But which Jewel!!!!?!?!?!??????

So now any potential date Kenan has can say to themselves "Hmmm...he's a fan-no-a/c guy..."

Actually, the AC is in the back. But considering my girlfriend gave it to me, I'm sure a "potential date" would see it as worse than having no AC at all.

;)

i haven't checked out my apartment on google street yet, but i am alarmed since i take the dogs out every morning at, oh, 6:10 and am usually wearing shorts (weather permitting) with a little rainjacket overtop to hold keys and poop bags. i noticed recently that this makes me look like a flasher because you can't see my jammie shorts and it looks like i am wearing no pants.

this is no big deal usually since there are approx. 0.5 people out at this hour on my corner, but if there were photos? ugh.

holy shit you guys applying to medical school is such a fucking pain in the ass

Does this look like an ok bike?

http://madison.craigslist.org/bik/443369918.html

TELL US ABOUT YR CHILDHOOD: DID YOU WANT TO DOCTOR THEN?

ARE YOU COMMITTED TO DIVERSITY (<--- WTF AT THIS QUESTION)

WHAT YOU BEEN UP TO LATELY? IT'D BETTER BE GOOD!

HAS SOMETHING BAD EVER HAPPENED TO YOU. TELL US.

xp that stem is hideous

stem?

That bike looks weird for some reason, Jordan. Maybe it's the stem. Also the saddle is...a strange choice. Is it really cheap?

WHAT YOU BEEN UP TO LATELY? IT'D BETTER BE GOOD!

POLL

How do they know you're dating a girl named Diversity???

stem = the part that connects the bike's frame to the handlebar (the silver part in this case)

Committed to adversity.

I don't know bike terms. :( It's $90, I just want a basic bike that is slightly less crappy than mine.

xpost, thx dan

Gawd Diversity is such a slut.

i really thought the "committed to diversity" question was O_o mostly because it seems like a really thinly veiled way of asking white kids (this is at the UMN) if, you know, they'll be okay working in city hospitals where *GASP* there will be BROWN PEOPLE OH NOES.

Otherwise, taken literally, committed to diversity means actively getting out there and diversifying. Maybe I should just tell them that I've made a point of having illegitimate children with every ethnicity available in my neighborhood.

Into hefeweisen and porter.

Tell them that you've personally gentrified a neighborhood.

make sure you tell them that you want to be a doctor so you can pay child support for all of your diverse illegitimate children

"Why would you like to be a doctor?"

ALL OF THIS BABIES I HAVE

in other news, europeans are crazy/awesome?

http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/

It looks like they'll slide off.

Which could be fun.

definitely awesome

That reminds me of this: http://mbjork.home.cern.ch/mbjork/gase/events/saunaab_test/saunaab_test.htm

haha, holy shit

xpost

Major work accomplishment guys--definitely going on my resume: The firm has a new and very important file that is sure to get a lot of use. It is labelled "WTF."

Good work.

rm -r WTF/

apparently they do this a lot:

http://www.jaccuzzi.ch/jaccuzzi_jacc.html

Swiss dudes are nuts, all wearing orange capri pants

i thought some of you might be interested in this:
http://i22.tinypic.com/25tyjqb.jpg

oops

kinda big

neato sculpture http://www.nickdlobo.com/wordpress/index.php

Ok...My fliers for the mock jury are not getting quite the landslide of responses I was hoping for. Perhaps some of you intelligent ILXors would be interested?? (I will have to check to make sure this is OK or course.)

It's $50 and free lunch (I just ate there today - lunch runs about $10 plus soft drink) for 6 hours of your brain power on Thursday, October 25th.

Come on, unemployed homeslices!

jordan, you can do better for $90.

ok

I just realized I never paid a $90 parking ticket I got a few weeks ago, so I went to the City of Chicago website, entered the ticket number, and discovered to my delight that the "J" on my license plate was mistyped as a "3," meaning I don't owe them a goddamn cent. Hooray.

ahahahahaha "are you committed to diversity?"

Congrats John. That evens out all the BS tickets that people never contest. IMHO, anyway.

The universe found balance through you.

where is good pizza? max forgot that we were ordering pizza and made dinner while i was in the shower, thus ruining my evening. EVENING, RUINED.

maybe i will go to pizza metro and eat in a huff

You're gonna choke that way.

Tonight I

-Started a batch of Kim Chee which which should be done fermenting in about 3 days (like all thinks I make, it grew to obscene proportions--free kim chee for everyone this Xmas)

-Handwashed socks and extra special clothing items.

- Glued my landline to my answering machine.

A good night.

rw, homemade pizza co is DEEEEELICIOUS if you don't mind cooking it yourself. otherwise, i dunno, in logan square probably marcello's?

chicago pizza delivers until 5 a.m. for future reference.

URELATED:

in tonights episode of the unprepared kitchen, i'm attempting to bake cookies with not enough flour and no cream of tartar. also, using a toaster oven instead of a real one. so far rolling the cookies into one inch balls was a disaster (due to not enough flour, i'm guessing) so well see what happens.

join me tomorrow when i attempt to cook the chicken that's been in my freezer for two weeks without properly defrosting it (or, conversely, defrosting it by letting it sit on my counter for like nine hours). SALMONELLA AHOY!!!!!!

fuck, and i forgot to lightly grease the baking pan. dammit.

Put the chicken in the fridge NOW!

And don't go trying to make chicken sashimi.

good thinkin lincoln.

The German equivalent of "no shit, Sherlock" is "naturallich Ulrich".

Tin Man.

The end is very fucking nigh.

I don't see me in here.

I stand here every single morning.

I want to find me in streetview.

I checked in Hannah's Bretzel too. NO ME.

i went to street side for beer and pizza. the pizza was so-so, the beer was good (Rogue), the service was totally fucking awful.

just because i am reading a book lady doesn't mean i'm not paying attention to the fact that you are basically ignoring me completely.

service at streetside is always hit and miss. however, i am a sucker for fireplaces and beer. and it's on my way home from work.

service at streetside is always terrible, in my experience. but it is two blocks away from me and open late, so.

After some discussion and lots and lots of thought, I would LOVE to find myself on streetview. I mean it was definitely weird to see my own plant shelf and rattan blinds on a Gmap, but on the other hand it was wildly fascinating to think that someone came by and photographed every foot of my street on both sides.

On the other other hand I don't like the Orwellian nature of this development. But at face value it's awesome and I would be fascinated to stumble on a picture of myself crossing some street.

As far as how my maleness influences this attitude, I can't say, as I'm merely a man.

horseshoe, we should drink beer at the streetside soon. also, no one will ever go to weegee's with me. HP, represent.

I'm unhappy that New Orleans is not on Streetview.

It's a good nostalgia machine.

Jesse I will definitely take some christmas kimchee if it is tasty.

Holy shit, it is fucking Fall. I went for a long bike ride yesterday and did not dress for success.

I wonder if there is a way to figure out which dates the street view pix were taken? Then we'd be more likely to find ourselves, by which I mean become self-actualized.

I am about to listen to the new radiohead. Eep!

I tried to find myself in streetview yesterday, too. But I think I spent too much time there, because last night I dreamed that I discovered a surveillance camera inside my apartment, and felt dread at knowing someone was watching me. :(

bridge.

bridge.

they have good beer at street side.

i think i tipped like 20% anyway, since chances are i'll have the same server again and i don't want her to be even surlier.

i realize that this completely depantses the whole point of tipping, but whatever, i am not arguing about tipping on the internet.

I just realized I never paid a $90 parking ticket I got a few weeks ago, so I went to the City of Chicago website, entered the ticket number, and discovered to my delight that the "J" on my license plate was mistyped as a "3," meaning I don't owe them a goddamn cent. Hooray.

Ha ha, I just got a response to a parking ticket I had contested, which said that I was presumably supposed to be ticketed for a street cleaning violation, but instead I was ticketed for a 2-hour parking violation, and since they messed up I don't have to pay. LOL meter maids are dumb.

I almost always read LOL as Lots of Love even though I know what it's supposed to mean. I will continue to do that just because I can.

Lots of Love for lovely Rita.

I am also listening to Radiohead.

i am trying to download it

I already done listened to it.

At one point, I could see three people at my work listening to it at the same time. I hadn't even thought about the event aspect of this plan, with basically almost everyone getting the album on the same day, instead of waiting for their next paycheck or downloading it two months before the release date. Kind of neat.

Now I'm listening to Maggot Brain.

An alternate mix of Maggot Brain, at that.

This is weird, after putting the new Radiohead on my ipod, there are now three entries for "Radiohead" under artists, and each one leads to all five RH albums I have on there? Whatever.

Why did I get an email from "Google Accounts" asking me to verify my account? WTF?

spam

Or maybe Nick was doing something with that because he's setting up a new band blog...

yeah sarah that were my fault

download don't work

1. I will give you dericious kim chee.

2. LOL at self-actualization.

3. Jordan, you should see my fucked up tags.

4. You could put the date in your window every day in order to figure out how often streetview is updated.

Kathryn: sadness. radiohead site crashed
me: dammit.
Kathryn: yes
so little to be happy about in the world today. and now,even less

Fart. This was going to be a little bright spot in my day.

Should be easy to find free downloads of the album elsewhere, such as here: http://sordo.freehostia.com/index.php?letter=R&PHPSESSID=ca1eb721980b1552017ee466f62293c7

I saw a guy with a pink mohawk riding a bike on south-bound LSD this morning.

Katie, let's totally get a beer at Streetside! I like Weegee's, too, in theory. they do have beer, right?

Nick, that is absurd. He wins the Darwin award.

"Sordo" means deaf in Spanish.

Jesse were you perhaps addressing your Darwin award comment to DAN and not to me?

i rode over the williamsburg bridge in traffic once, and it was easily the stupidest thing i have ever done, aside from that one other thing

but lsd is retardo

me: there was a dead dog on LSD yesterday Eddie saidee
f this. i'm putting this on ILX

Anyway, dead dog on LSD yesterday. Cops were at the scene and they covered it with a sheet. And there was a couple next to it standing in a tableau of agitation, grief, and distress.

Moral of the story: don't give your dog LSD.

Sordo Music Archive is awesome. I've downloaded a fair amount from there in the past couple of months. For some reason they tend toward slow-core, post-rock, Kranky-type bands. Like Stars of the Lid. But you can also find random nuggets of other stuff, too.

maybe the dog only felt like it was dying

xpost damn u ez

xpost Eric, get movin' to my apartment. :-)

What? Eric, are you really taking John's old apartment?

No, he's housesitting for me this afternoon so he can let People's Energy in to turn on the gas.

There was a COP. And a SHEET! For a DOG!

Maybe the people were rich?

That's one of many reasons why I wouldn't want to own a large dog - more depressing pet body weight to deal with when it dies.

In happier, more selfish news, free lunch in an hour for me! whoop whoop

That was even more morbid than I had intended. Enough dead pet talk!

For those listening to In Rainbows, my favorite track is #6 so far.

Last night, I hurt my back again, here. Which is why I am home today.

The funny thing (ha, ha) is that I was fine for the three hours I played. After sitting for 15 minutes on the ground, I stood up normaly and my lower back locked up. I could barely move most of the night.

Anyone ever heard the term "telecopier"? A paralegal emailed me and she lists in her sig line she lists her phone and "telecopier" numbers.

I'm assuming it means fax, but that's sort of weird.

On a scale of 1 to 1,000,000, how dorky is it for us to have a blog detailing the recording of our new LP?

AWESOME DO IT^^^^^^^^

I don't know about dorky, but I think it would be awesome!

xpost

Oh we are, I just want to know how dorky it is. For my files.

nick, pretty dorky, but i'd probably read it.

also f0ng got his eight track yesterday. fucker weighs a million pounds.

And by "we," I suspect I mean "me."

the eight track, not ben.

Did he get the reel-to-reel shit? If so, we are recording in your basement, whether you like it or not.

I went out with co-workers last night to this place. Drinks were a little pricey, but they give you peanuts at your table encourage you to throw the shells on the floor, like it was Outback Steakhouse or wherever it is that lets you do that.

We will break in and record while you are sleeping.

nah, just plain old tape. no reel to reel.

I love recording blogs, do it.

wasn't it the ground round that lets you throw peanut shells on the floor? i used to love that place as a kid, just for that reason.

We need to find out where all the free courts are, because it sucks when we get to our courts and have to wait forever.

How do you link to a specific street view? THIS IS U&K.

Click on the thing on the left side of the page that says "Link to this page."

eh?

I went to Monk's once, it was okay.

Waiting for courts is maddening. You can reserve courts in Grant Park for $7 an hour. For two hours is pretty much all the tennis someone one would really want to play anyway.

i rode my bike to work today and got a painful earache from the wind. how to avoid?

hat!

or ear flappy things for your helmet, knitted by sweet tater.

....you are wearing a helmet, right?

i am definitely wearing a helmet!

it was not really cold enough for a hat, and it would probs not fit under my helmet. ear flaps sound lovely! i was thinking of just putting some cotton in there so the wind doesn't get to inner ear. i don't really care if i'm crazy cotton ear lady.

also i have a hat that has ear covers, but the helmet won't fit on top. it's like the kind of hat that has little under-the-chin ties to hold it on, very mary poppins. (also very crazy lady, i fear)

My ears hurt from the wind after playing tennis yesterday. tennis tennis tennis. Maybe sometime Jeff should teach us how to play.

Nick: not dorky at all. If it's interesting, it's not dorky. It's people who blog about nothing who are dorks.

words i always get confused in spanish

sordo/a (deaf)
surdo/a (left-handed)

maybe you could get one of those wide stretchy headbands and wear it over your ears?

i'm hungry and bored. not good for only being 11:30!

Hat! Bandana! One of those fuzzy headband things from 1994!

xxxxxp haha

headband -- good idea! it's not even that cold out, so that's why i was worried. my ears are sensitive, i guess.

but seriously, i would hope that you guys think enough of me to know that i would have thought of "hat" as an option...it's the hat + helmet that causes a problem

Mr. Wolf? Respond to my email.

If you got it. If you didn't, then why not?

Wake up, Mr. Wolf, Mr. Wolf!

it took me a while to find it, but i remember selling lots of these:
http://www.mapleshademercantile.com/ordering/

which basically clip on to your helmet straps and are fleecy warmness for your ears.

i rode my bike to work today and got a painful earache from the wind. how to avoid?

ME TOO. That sucked.

I don't own a helmet. :(

Jesse, I don't want to commit to that in case I actually have a job then, is the thing.

amanda: there are special cycling hats wif flaps that fit under helmets! i'll find some links.

http://www.walzcaps.com/

http://www.shaundeller.com/Hats/hats.htm

Well wolfey, can you commit to doing it if you don't have a job?

No pressure. Just asking.

It's 100% official. I love Streetview. Another lawyer is outside looking for parking and I found him a parking lot with it. I could not have done that without Streetview.

I am normally anti-those "bike" caps b/c I figure I don't need to publicly identify as a "bike person" because there are plenty of those already and they can be rawther defensive about that identity. So y'know wtf. But I wish something had kept the rain out of my eyes/off my glasses last night, and ears DO get awfully cold, so I may yet relent.

well if it's under yr helmet it's not really THAT bikey. it's functional!

I think I lost my Digd0wn track jacket! No idea where. Last night I needed that or a long-sleeved t-shirt, neither of which I own, so it was either bike in a t-shirt or a way-too-heavy hoodie.

I biked in track pants and a Canast@ t-shirt.

Helmet? ;)

I don't own a helmet. :(

-- Jordan, Wednesday, October 10, 2007 4:50 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i missed the diversity conversation from yesterday but let me share my one diversity related annecdote. when jen worked at the tribune she volunteered for the diversity day committee they had there. they'd meet once a week to plan an all day event that all tribco. employees would attend. she'd come home the after the first couple weeks and share with me the somewhat narrow view of "diversity" that some other committee members had as expressed by comments such as "i don't think we need to include fags in diversity day" and (when discussing diversity of religion) "this isn't about GOD, it's about DIVERSITY."

she never volunteered for anything there again.

oh hey check it

http://www.thesharx.com/

damn, i was all over the city yesterday, on foot from my place to permanent records then up damen to wicker park. i went to the damen blue line stop and put some $$$ on my transit card then crossed over to milwaukee and took the 56 bus up to the northwest side, i walked down cicero from iriving park and applied for another job i won't get (they could have said they were looking for a female in the job description and saved me time & money). i walked from six corners down irving park rd. to the irving park stop on the blue line. i stood on the island platform in the middle of the kennedy expressway with traffic crawling by me for 20 minutes waiting for a train. platform was nearly packed, i got one of the last seats in the car when the train did come. i got off at damen and walked home.

it's nice up in old irving park/albany park (whatever it is). kinda homey.

"the return of Evan "the General" Skow on keys marks a promising development for the Islamofascists and music fans who have been raptly following this terrorist cell and rock band's rapid rise."

god help me, i'm probably applying here tomorrow.

are you interested in working with their 'awesome' staff?

hopefully they don't really need a barback because i would hate to work there.

xpost- i'm sure the music is just as "awesome" too.

wait a minute, i didn't read this carefully enough:

"interested in working with an awesome staff that knows how to party"

that changes EVERYTHING!!!

awesome AND a knowledge of how to party? sign me up.

Party? Or "party"?

Q: So Kevin, tell us what you find are the best means of "partying."

A: If you don't have a straw you can always use a $100 bill.

Or a key.

Key?

A key. A KEY JORDAN. WHAT ARE YOU NOT UNDERSTANDING???

(why does it give me such pleasure to subject you to textual roughness?)

Haha. I can't picture how a key would be used to do coke?

You dip the key in the baggie and use it as a scoop which you put up to your nose and snort.

"key bump"

hey i haven't partied like that in a while.

also, if you're "partying" while behind the wheel and can't use your keys (obviously) for a bump, a handy thing to have is a parliament light with the recessed filter. but be careful, you don't want to fill it up because it holds a good amount.

Jesse could remove his key while driving.

gotcha

i could do that with my oldsmobile, the ignition key was so worn down that you could pull it right out while driving.

Words of wisdom, KT -- words of wisdom.

Enough drog talk, though.

Yup, my old F(ound)O(n)R(oadside)D(ead) F150 could do it, too.

the ol' gutless cutlass, the oldsmobeauty, the oldsmobeast, the toastmobile, the r.e.oh no wagon.

good car.

!

I used to drive a car that you could take the keys out of while it was running. It was glamorous to take them out and do key bumps off the ignition key b/c it was a BMW*.

*1984. And it by the time I was done with it we called it the smashmobile. I was in it with Courtney one time and I rammed a couched all over my parking lot. Fun. Have a coke and vehicular misuse.

xpost

My '95 Mercury Tracer could do that, too.

r.e.oh no wagon

awesome

Fake Fics recording blog is a go:

http://ffkrakatoa.wordpress.com/

i wish i still had pictures of that cutlass, i had some great times in that car. i think it was the last car on earth to come with drum brakes and an am only radio. it was an '83 for chrissakes!!

Is this going to turn into a written Some Kind of Monster?

To Nick, obviously.

no jesse, it will be THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE LINER NOTES EVER!!!!

OK. I'm having zero luck with Radiohead website. Can someone plz to YSI it to me?

Thanks.

GODDAMMIT JESSE DO YOU NOT READ ANYTHING I POST? I POSTED A LINK TO A SITE WITH LIKE FIVE DOWNLOAD LINKS FOR THE ALBUM. WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?

No, I posted that, remember? You posted about the guy with the mohawk on the bike.

Krakatoa!

Are you going to start calling your fans krakheads?

no jesse, it will be THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE LINER NOTES EVER!!!!

Basically. My theory of liner notes has always been that they should be either as minimal as possible, with only the bare essential information, or totally maximal, with the full details of the whole process, a list of all equipment used, exactly when everything was recorded, etc. This way we can have both.

GODDAMMIT JESSE DO YOU NOT READ ANYTHING I POST? I POSTED A LINK TO A SITE WITH LIKE FIVE DOWNLOAD LINKS FOR THE ALBUM. WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?

-- n/a, Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:21 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

FU dude. I tried the links and they were not cooperating either. JUST GIVE ME SOME GD RADIOHEAD BEFORE I XPLODE.

Liner notes should always, always, always, always include lyrics. Always.

Jesse, I e-mailed you.

I never look at the lyrics.

for what it's worth nick, i've always been a big fan of extensive liner notes. though i don't necessarily need to know what microphones were used or who made the mixing board or whatever.

^I do

*liner notes
*tour diaries

^^Awesome!

Liner notes should always, always, always, always include lyrics. Always.

No.

Lyrics are not always necessary. I almost never read them, unless I totally can't tell what the singer is singing and am curious. I think they're good to have for some bands, but there are plenty of bands that are better served by being mysterious than by making their lyrics easily available.

On all the self-produced CDs I've been involved with there has always been a "sponsors list" that basically is a bunch of inside jokes and crap about the "gear" we "used" to make the recording. Like "1987 Ford F-150", "Powerade", or "Citgo hot dogs".

You should sell adspace to local businesses in your CD packaging. State Farm agents and pizza joints.

Well we need space for our extensive catalog of licensed t-shirts, baseball caps, phone cards, albums made by people in our entourage, sports drink, belt buckles, and bongs.

When I was younger, I would buy a CD and then come home and put it on and read the liner notes, and if there were lyrics included, I would follow along. At some point, I realized that I preferred letting the music make its impact on me in a solely auditory way -- at least at first -- and that reading the lyrics was kind of ruining that.

I think I even read an interview with Seal, of all people, who claimed that he didn't print lyrics in his album sleeves because he wanted people to have their own experiences with his music and if they misheard something, that was still part of their experience.

These days, lots of bands' lyrics are readily available on the Internet, anyway, if you're dying to know them.

holy crap, an ex just sent me a lead on a job that she's turning down and the dude that's doing the hiring is her friend's husband. it would pay between 4-14K more than my last job with the government.

Lyrics are essential for me, even if I can clearly understand the words.

I don't buy CDs (or tapes) anymore, but when I used to and when I was listening to them while not driving I could very very frequently be found reading the lyrics. I still do this with online lyrics sites, now that I think of it.

There's nothing more disappointing than buying a CD with that has a wad of liner pages only to find that it's all art! (I'm looking at you, Radiohead--at least recent releases.)

xpost--stupid online lyrics sites are no good. Best I've found is Songmeanings.com which doesn't have a bunch of pop-ups and allows comments where screw-ups are corrected.

I loved reading the studio stories and all the other shit in the Roots liner notes. Same with, uh, all jazz liner notes, although those were usually commissioned essays by music writers, not the musicians.

The Miles Davis Quintet reissues had some awesome musicological stuff about every track.

When I was in middle and high school (and very lonely and bored)I would handwrite all the lyrics to my favorite albums that did not include them in the liner notes. This included the cassette version of The Wall and some Dead Milkmen albums.

That looks good, Nick!
I still need to read roxymusic's tour diary.

Eep, Kevin! That's promising. :-D

The band that Sarah and I were in in college put out a tape and we got our friend Ariel, who was at the wedding, to write a satirical essay about the social significance of our band and its relevance to the scene.
This is the kind of thing that M@x Br00ks would be good at.

This lyrics discussion reminds me of a trip I took to Target about a month ago. I passed this middle aged woman and her teenaged daughter. The mom was saying, quite emphatically, "Those bands, they just GARBLE GARBLE GARBLE. You can't figure out what they are saying at all! Who knows what they are singing about?! Doesn't that bother you??"

Maybe she had "bands" confused with "turkeys."

That's probably it. Hi, Nick. I just had a Goddess & Grocer box lunch, followed by multiple treats from Sweet Mandy B's.

Thanks Jordy, but the Radiohead site now will not let me download from this computer as I already tried once from this ISP.

May I call you Jordy? No? Ok. I will then.

No.

I SAID OK I WILL THEN

I'm telling.

I think something like the Target lady at most rock shows I see at places like the Double Door and Empty Bottle, though it's more about the mixing and mic than the singer -- I think, I hope they didn't put much work into these lyrics because I can't make them out at all. GARBLE GARBLE GARBLE.

You guys should listen to Assuck, then it's all ROOF ROOF ROOF RRRRROWRRRR RAAH ROOF WOOF.

I had an '84 Oldsmobile! Cutlass Supremmmmmmmmmmmmme. There was no provision for the back windows to go down. At all.

John and my liner notes evolution is v. similar except I just got lazy.

Sometimes you're not supposed to make them out.

see also: 900,000 other metal/hc/powerviolence bands

I'm fine if it's supposed to just be about the voice and the melody (like Stereolab and Mum), but if some dude seems to be singing something with real conviction and I can't make out what he's singing about, I end up being one of those dozens of indifferent people that seem to be at any Bottle show.

That's one thing records are good for (hearing lyrics, if you're into that sort of thing).

Our family car was a Cutlass Supreme for a while.
First - olive rabbit
Second - Silver reliant
And then - Cutlass

FFs, can I guest rap on “(Don’t Drink the) Office Coffee”? Because I have some opinions.

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I mean, when Ronnie James Dio sings that we are The Last In Line, that means something! I don't think I would like the song as much if I didn't understand the words.

GARBLE GARBLE GARBLE.

hi dere marble mouthed j mascis.

xpost- the gutless cutlass was an '83!! oh, yeah, my least favorite nickname for it was "the cutload". i never called it that.

We had an orange Rabbit. Before that we had a beige Squareback. Then after a POS yellow Bug.

When the Sharx sing "This vacation takes no vacation, no one's going home!" or the FFs sing "We built you and we can destroy you!" that messes with my head in the way that GARBLE GARBLE GARBLE would not.

I mean, when Ronnie James Dio sings

that crazy little munchkin!

lol Assuck were on a comp called "Bllleeeeaaauuurrrrgghhh! The Record"

We called mine "The Flaming Oldsmobile" for obvious reasons:

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I heard some Swedish metal recently, something recorded with a full orchestra, and I liked the parts that weren't in English because then it really did sound like a five-headed demon singing. I don't need a five-headed demon articulating threats to me -- a real demon doesn't need to do that.

FFs, can I guest rap on “(Don’t Drink the) Office Coffee”?

ok

It will be like that rap on "Radio Song" by REM.

I am high on the cocaine, by which I mean sugar.

Booger sugar

the flaming oldsmobile would have been the coolest car ever if the roof was painted to look like there were burgers or hot dogs cooking on a grill.

No. xpost to E

Nick will say, "Hey, I can't find any coffee on the way to work!"
and then I'll say, "Yo, don't go into the kitchen!"

xp to Kevin - my friend Ed did that by hand with acrylic craft paint.

Sex in the (Office) Kitchen

Check it out
What are you drinkin'?
What did you get it?
Who f'n made that?
Day out day in?
UH Baby baby baby
That stuff is driving me crazy

Also I'll say "YO HO HO" every once in a while, but like a pirate to make it different.

whenever i see or hear the word acrylic i hear the meryn cadell song "the sweater".

Baristas communicate to the masses
Sex and violent classes
Now our children grow up prisoners
All their lives office coffee drinkers

real lyrics?

I downloaded the Radiohead album. Wow. Those are some fucked up tags.

Girls,
I know you will understand this
and feel the intrinsic incredible emotion
You have just pulled over your head the worn,
warm sweater belonging to a boy
Now, you haven't had a passionate kissing session or anything,
but you got to go on a camping trip with him
and eight other people from school
And you practically slept together,
your sleeping bag right next to his
And you woke in the night to watch him as he slept
but you couldn't see anything 'cause it was dark
so you just laid there and listened to his breathing
and wondered if your heart might burst
The sweater has that faintly goat-like smell
which all teenage boys possess,
and that smell will lovingly transfer
to all your other clothes
If you get to keep it for a few days you can sleep with it
but don't let your mom see, 'cause she'll say,
"what is that filthy thing, and who does it belong to
besides the trash man?"
So you have to keep it under the covers with you
You can kind of lie it beside you,
or wrap it around your waist,
or touch it on your legs, or whatever
That's your business
Now if the sweater has, like, reindeer on it
or is a funny color like yellow... I'm sorry,
you can't get away with a sweater like that
Look for brown, or grey, or blue
Anything other than that, and you know you're dealing with
someone who's different
And different is NOT what you're looking for
You're looking for those Alpine ski-chiseled features
and that sort of blank look which passes for deep thought
or at least the notion that someone's home
You're looking for the boy of your dreams
who is the same boy in the dreams of all your friends
Monday, wear the sweater
to school
Be calm, look cute
Don't tell him about the dream you had
about the place the two of you would share
when you get older
Just be yourself
The best, cutest, quietest version of yourself
Definitely wear lip gloss
He looks at you, and then he looks away
And then he walks away
and the smell of the sweater hits you again suddenly
like ape-scent gloriola
and you get a note passed to you
by a girl in History that says
"He needs that sweater back.
He forgot you put it on in the tent on Saturday
and he's been looking for it."
And you don't have to die of humiliation, you know
You are a strong person
and this is a learning experience
You can still hold your head up high as you run from the classroom
tearing the stinking sweater from your body
You've got a secret now, honey,
and though you'd never sink as low as him,
you could blab it all over the school if you wanted
The label in that sweater
said "100% Acrylic"

Worst REM song

Apparently you can't make a one-choice poll, lame. I made the deadline for the poll one year from now just to make it even more annoying.

I think Shiny Happy People is worse than Radio Song.

And Stand is worse than both.

I actually kind of like all those songs.

Speaking of sweaters, I can't get that damn Old Navy commerical song out of my head, or at least the very first line.
If you are chilly, here take my sweater.
Meanwhile, the woman is wearing totally feminine (and ugly) sweaters that would look quite funny on her man.

(and look funny on her TBH)

(which is why I threw that ugly in there)

i remember and like that sweater song.

i had reheated gino's pizza for lunch. yum.

hey before i go to the record store would anyone be interested in either of the following comps?

- shrimper "abridged perversion" featuring songs from the extra glenns (franklin bruno and john darneille), sentridoh, franklin bruno, mountain goats, john davis, lou barlow among others.

- siltbreeze "tard & further'd" with tracks from halo of flies, gibson bros., mokey 101, v-3, dead c, alastair galbraith, sebadoh, terminals, guided by voices, thomas jefferson slave apartments, shadow ring, among others.

xpost- in my looking for the lyrics i found out that meryn is no longer female.

I think I might become a notary.

Public.

I was one of those once for Hennepin County.

my older sister's one.

I think I'm mature enough now that the notary lifestyle won't eat me alive.

Like it did with Notary B.I.G.

lol u a baby xp

I didn't have to take a test; I think I just had to sign some forms, and the company I was working for at the time covered the cost.

i'm no baby, my younger sister (who is 33) is still referred to as "the baby" by my immediate family.

younger sister kills thread.

is she hot

ATTN UNEMPLOYED DUDES I JUST CHECKED WITH MY BOSS AND ONLY ONE PERSON HAS APPLIED FOR THE JOB IN MY DEPT AND IT WAS IN AUGUST

IF YOU APPLY I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE I CAN GET YOU THE JOB

GIVE

im not unemployed tho :-/

SORRY: JOB-SEEKING DUDES

i suppose those who have to pay rent shd get first dibs

i'm at the site now, keyword to search?

yay Kevin; I hope you get it!

haha its a fight to finish :(

requisition #076809

Also this job would last approx 13 mos. before termination (same time as me).

Kevin's going to end up getting hired for 3 jobs at once, that's how these things go.

Then he's going to choose Bar Chicago, but post to ILX all day pretending he's at an office job out of shame.

is it this one: 5674580-Press-Journals Division ?

shit, thanks dan!

Also my boss says if the requirements or the site put you off I can fwd her phone number so you can talk about it ahead of time.

A 13-month job, I like the short-term sound of that.

Ooh, all of a sudden it's cold and windy and there are yellow leaves blowing around the street.

I just read the roxy diary. So fun!

I am a notary. I has a stamp with my names on it.

Sarah - is it really true that in IL you don't have to go to notary school?? If so, that's sort of interesting.

Update from my band of brothers:

date Oct 10, 2007 4:05 PM
subject THANKS FOR BEING THERE
mailed-by mac.com

THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR LAST NIGHT.

especially to Mike for opening his home.

It was such memorable time for me and Jordan. To have such men as you all who model what it is to follow Jesus and live it out so everyone can witness
is such a gift from the Lord. I realized last night that i am blessed with extraordinary men as friends and closer then friends, true brothers who really care.
I am humbled and thankful that you all care so much. What great riches the Lord has blessed us with, far beyond what could be bought with money. The Lord has purchased us and then has given us a common fellowship, far beyond what this world could ever offer.
Thanks again for your love and friendship.

your friend and brother

terry

What should my response be?

Something about male models.

"LOL I R JEWISH"

Haha, I have typed up "guys, I am Jewish, wtf"

Also I sort of want to "reply all" since this dude obviously isn't getting the point that he has the wrong e-mail address in there, but a) getting these e-mails is funny, and b) i don't really want to give my e-mail to 10 Jesus-freaks that I don't know

yeah, something about being the kind of guy that kills jesus, not follows him. that might get their attention.

So this semi-NSFW image shows up under a GIS search for my own name.

^that is not NSFW, it is practically wholesome

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I kinda lied about my Unix experience, I barely used it but I barely used it for over 3 years so technically, TECHNICALLY it was not a lie.

and, uhm, i haven't seen a Unix console in 7 years.

no, wait, five years, i did some sidework for my old company for the client that brought me to chicago in the first place, National Opinion Research
Center (whom I think was affiliated with UC somehow) at 55 e monroe.

oh shit i need a job, too!

i applied for the one in the other department. kevin, brody, is it cool if i throw my hat in the ring there?

by all means man, we're both out of work here.

fair play

omg good luck guys!!!

hey, it only took two weeks for me to totally regret selling my guitars. i'm feeling kind of antsy and unfocused and this is when i'd always pick up a guitar and start fucking around until my brain stopped spinning. happened last night two, i found myself picking up a pick just out of habit.

A 50-cent kazoo from Chinatown might do the trick.

HARMONICA

Then you can always pack your harmonic up in a bandanna, tie it to a stick, and ride the rails.

Why does Bill Clinton play the sax?

Because he lost his WhoreMonica.

yah, go hang with these dudes.

xp 3/10

Guys, I am Jewish, WTF? Keep up the male modelling, though.
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Logan Webster <newlyw✧✧✧@m✧✧.c✧✧>,
Matt Buttler <buttmat✧✧✧@a✧✧.c✧✧>,
Michael Browne <MBRO✧✧✧@torr✧✧✧.c✧✧>,
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subject RE: THANKS FOR BEING THERE
mailed-by cerritos.edu

It was an honor. I feel very blessed myself, being surrounded by men who love the Lord and work at being good husbands and fathers.

Mike

Buttmat!

I just died of LOLZ.

Holy fucking what the hell, Evan, who ARE those people??

Matt Buttler = alternative universe version of Cutty

Kevin you can borrow my Teisco if you just want a guitar around the house to play for fun. It sounds like crap but it doesn't really matter if you're not plugging it in.

These guys must be having secret brocaine parties or something.

I want to see if I can somehow manipulate them into meeting up with the ski dudes from Florida.

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they are smelly, filthy, probably on meth/booze, lost, damaged hippies

but i still want to hang with them. like, bad? nb - for whatever reason, i knew at least 3 people at dmouth that did that for a while. and bridget has a buddy from princeton that still does the hobo thing every now and then

wesleyrockingh✧✧✧@hotmm✧✧✧.c✧✧
newlyw✧✧✧@m✧✧.c✧✧
MBRO✧✧✧@tor✧✧✧.c✧✧

HEY it took away my funny:

wesleyrockinghomo
nwelywank
mbrojob

http://www.randomhouse.com/author/results.pperl?authorid=44234

3 years *nix experience is ridic (when the posting passed by my desk for review I told them to make it 1) -- we're not sysadmins or anything. If you can copy, move, make a directory, list, and you understand how the file structure works, you should be fine.

I hope one of you guys gets it, but I don't want to play any favorites. I don't think I should have anything to do with hiring in the first place, but my boss has been lazy and we need the help.

Being God's Man as a Satisfied Single

ABOUT THIS BOOK
You may be single by choice or circumstance. You may plan to marry and have a family, or you may sense a call to lifelong singleness. Even so, your situation is God’s will for you now. What will you do with it? What will you learn from it? And how will you survive the temptations confronting singles in this world?

You know firsthand that single men face unique spiritual and moral struggles. Character is the cornerstone of being God’s man as a single in today’s culture. To live successfully out of a commitment to Christ, you as a single man must master the issues of sexual integrity, isolation, contentment, spiritual battle, and identity in Christ. Being God’s Man…as a Satisfied Single is designed to help you do just that.

You're looking kinda lonely girl
would you like someone new to talk to, ah yeh alright
I'm feeling kinda lonely too
if you don't mind can I sit down here beside you
ah yeah alright

If I seem to come on too strong
I hope that you will understand
I say these things 'cause I'd like to know
if you're as lonely as I am
and if you mind

Sharing the night together, oh yeah
Sharing the night together, oh yeah, sharing the night

HARMONICA

i have one, actually. when we went to the crypt store in brooklyn they found a box full of them in the basement and said we could have one if we wanted. i think i have an e, i was looking for an a but whatever.

nick, thanks for the offer but i think i should deny myself until i can provide for myself. i might take amy up on her offer of borrowing her squire for a bit.

What homemade pizza co pizza should I get tonight?

I decided on spinach pie.

i like the bbq chicken and the carmelized onion & sausage one. that one is my favorite probably.

wow the sun sets fast these days, i was on chicago between winchester and damen and it went from this gorgeous orange/red/purple/midnight blue to completely black in less than 3 minutes.

it feels like lake effect snow weather out there.

how do i thaw fish

Look, I won't lie to you guys, Trader Joe's has some pretty good salsa.

Thanks for not lying.

I want to like the salsa at whole foods, but it just has too many onions.

jeff, the stuff like salsa and guacamole is usually made in house at each store so quality varies depending on which prep foods team members are working. they made a pineapple salsa at the river forest store that was pretty goddamn good. i bought it again a week later and it was completely different (in a bad way).

Bummer.

Now that curried chicken salad is awesome.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h289/dpg1976/Jesca1c.jpg

Hey, so I briefly met Jesca Hoop the other night, who shares my taste in women's hats.

And hey, why didn't anyone tell me that Coors owns Blue Moon?

tell jesca to call me

i'm sure some of you got this already but for the benefit of those who didn't and who might be interested....

HELLO!
Tomorrow night I am participating in this festival called "Around The Coyote" by screening THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN ARM at the Nelson Algren Triangle in the middle of the intersection of Division/Ashland/Milwaukee. It will be tomorrow nigh at 7pm, and FREE. Please come, if you can!

Also, the festival doesn't really know this, but Saturday night at 8 i plan on screening HIGH FIDELITY at the corner of Milwaukee and Honore, the location of Championship Vinyl, the record store in that film. The storefornt appears to be abandoned, so i plan on projecting straight on to the wall. This will also be at 8pm.

For both of these screenings you should bring a chair and/or blanket. Also, please dress warmly because it may get a little chilly. The audio will be broadcast on FM radio. we will provide some little radios so that you can listen, but please bring your own headphones if you can.

Oh, and saturday night i am going to see one of my favorite michigan bands, saturday looks good to me, at some place at the hideout!

sorry this is so texty, but i hope to see you sometime this weekend!!

love,
Geo.

here is how they have described it in the program:
portable cinema
Friday Oct. 12 8 PM @ Nelson Algren Triangle [corner of Division/Ashland/Milwaukee - Division Blue Line Stop]

Portable Cinema (a.k.a. Porcine) is a Grand Rapids-based 'guerrilla drive-in' that takes place in site-specific locations, featuring
movies that are meaningful or somehow linked to the location itself. For the Nelson Algren Triangle, Porcine will show the classic film Man
with the Golden Arm, starring Frank Sinatra. The film is based on Nelson Algren's novel of the same title, which takes place on the
streets of Wicker Park in the 1950s. Because the film's audio track will be projected via FM transmission, attendees of the screening are
encouraged to bring their own portable radios to tune in, however some pocket FM radios will be available. Additionally attendees are
encouraged to ride bicycles, bring blankets or chairs, and dress warmly. Supported in part by SSA #33.

SLGTM are kind of dull, but they are playing with Great Lakes Myth Society who are supposed to be awesome.

speaking of awesome.

Doris Lessing pulled up in a black cab where a media horde was waiting Thursday in front of her leafy north London home. Reporters opened the door and told her she had won the Nobel Prize for literature, to which she responded: "Oh Christ! ... I couldn't care less."

Our FF show Saturday is super early - 8pm! I hope there are people there. Oh, people.

The gorilla screenings sound fun.

did you talk about hats with her, EZ?

Didn't talk about hats with her, just her music a bit -- I didn't see the photo of her hunting cap until today.

Though she did wear a hat at her show that looked a bit too much like Linda Perry's in the "What's Up" video, alas.

Though she did wear a hat at her show that looked a bit too much like Linda Perry's in the "What's Up" video, alas.

??

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http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/78305.jpg

Like a mini version of this hat, covering only a little of her head, off to one side.

i think that might actually be a regular sized hat, it just looks huge because marc bolan was an elf.

I heard The Power Station's version of "Bang A Gong" many times before I heard the original.

i picked up the above record (The Slider) at permanent records the other day with what they gave me in trade. i got it primarily for buick mackane but goddamn it's a GREAT record. no wonder it was their highest selling, metal guru, rockon, baby boomerang, telegram sam, main man are all GREAT fucking songs. they're older than i am and still sound very fresh, i love it.

My shipment of 6 pounds of baker's twine just arrived.

for the uninitiated, that's a buttload of twine.

I haven't been initiated into what constitutes a buttload of twine.

i would assume that it depends on the butt, wouldn't it?

a baby buttload would be considerably less than an andre the giant buttload.

also, sweet tater, why are you using baker's twine that has been up someone's ass? and when did drug mules become the transport of choice for baker's twine? inquiring minds want to know, I WANT TO KNOW!

I didn't realize it was a buttload when I bought it! It is streak-free though, so I'm going to use it anyway.

Also, it's a giant buttload, not a baby buttload.

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i'm feeling a little homesick so this weekend i'm going to try to make boston brown bread. i need baker's twine and a coffee can.

I think I'm going to make
this over the weekend.

oh man that sounds good, i'm gonna try that soon!

last night i had almost two pounds of chicken. i made half with a honey dijon sauce and served it with some pasta and put the other pound in a bbq sauce marinade for dinner tonight. apparently i ate it when i got home last night so now i gotta head to the grocery store again. i never would have thought that quitting smoking would COST me money but my food intake practically quadruples when i stop now. it's insane.

you quit smoking?!

I say with surprise b/c I feel like you are synonymous with smoking. plus, you're always talking about how you want a cigarette. I am very proud of you for taking the plunge!

i'm quitting only because i can't afford to keep buying cigarettes. the free camel guy and the buy one get one camel guy are doing what they can to keep me in smokes but they can only do so much. ooooh, free camel guy will probably be at holiday club tonight.... that's one reason to go right there.

you should just quit!
it's better all-around, as you probably know.

i guess i'm a weekend smoker right now? i usually don't have any during the week then when i go out to a show i'll bum one then i find myself choosing cigarettes over beer and buying a pack and drinking water for the rest of the night.

xpost yeah, i went almost two weeks without smoking and felt great riding my bike and shit and could BREATHE for a change.

you could always buy a bag of suckers & take up knitting.

I figure my biking & highland and general activity levels allows me to function more or less like a non-smoker -- just not as healthy as I'd be WIHTOUT the cigs. I went to the doc a few months ago, though, and he didn't want to show me my pulmonary test results b/c they were so good he couldn't guilt me on them. So, uh...

i'd rather learn how to sew than knit.

i have some ideas and think i want to figure out how to make tile mosaics. i think i want to replicate cta signage with tiles.

i know i have already done some serious damage to my pulmonary system but i haven't had a check up in 7 years. my heart will probably give out before my lungs do though.

Sewing has more of an instant gratification to it. Ha! I'm actually wearing a dress I made today!

holy sweet goddamn does our new manuscript tracking system suck

Some friends of mine bought a new computer and they consider me their IT guy (God help them--they're also amongst the friends who consider me a font of music knowledge) and I'm going over to their house tonight with my external hard drive to move all their shit from the old machine to the new one. What I'm uncertain of is if it is possible to move programs (Word, etc.) over by just copying the C drive and not having to install the programs anew on the new machine.

Help?

(Mac people, if you don't have something nice (helpful) to say...)

microsoft sucks

Also: I am not sure, but I don't think it's possible.

I think you'll probably have to reinstall them?

.doc files yes, actual software no

xp: yeah exactly

But the install files should be there, hopefully it won't fuck with you re: licensing and stuff.

You were right. It's not possible. We're just going to re-install all the shit b/c the old computer is OLD and fucked up.

Do Macs allow you to move a program over without needing the .exe?

Wow. I am so fucking high. That makes it hard to look like I know what I"m doing.

Pretty nice computer for $70!

If anyone wants one I can hook a brother and sister up.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t306/shakesville/coconut-crab.jpg

Please explain that before I go to bed and my unconscious has to try to figure it out.

I got my hair cut tonight at Changez very near J/J's house (Broadway and Roscoe). It's a weird place, but I liked the pictures in the window so I made an impulse decision.

Good haircut, but weird. It's the opposite of all the sleek salons in the area--stucco interior and Head & Shoulders, and Dove products displayed amongst expensive pomades and rinses.

The owner and lone stylist is a gay Asian guy who chats incessantly. He pointed out a cute straight client who was waiting for a chair and told me that that client had gone to another salon in Wrigleyville because one of the stylists was a pretty woman in scant clothing.

Then he said something I didn't catch. He repeated it and I thought I misheard him. On the third go I caught it: "He get to suck on her nipple when she cut his hair. He suck her nipple! Do you believe that? He don't tell his girlfriend--he lied, but he suck her nipple when she cut his hair. Hahahaha!"

The guy played along but it was an awkward moment all around.

If you're up like I am, you should give a listen to this ambient stuff on Canadian radio.

I am up, but not like you are.

OUR WAYS OF BEING UP BEAR NO SIMILARITIES

How are you up bear?

These sound like asanas.

Move from tree pose gently into up-bear. Rotate on your sit bones into down-bear.

That is a giant crab trying to get into a trash can.

I have internally mocked that hair cut place numerous times for selling Head and Shoulders. (It's just like the H&S commercials!) Isn't that also the place with the sign by the door threatening like grievous bodily harm to shoplifters?

I didn't see that sign, but they do have one that says WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE. Also you sign in on a sheet where the guy later writes the charge and how much you tipped for all to see.

OH. And more than twice he told me my hair was "thin" and "thinning." LDKJSFSA;DLFKJ

Good potential rap name: Downward Dawg

I'm pretty sure I'm still drunk from last night. I had:
four 312's
a lemon drop
champagne

I'm listening to Daft Punk at my desk in denial that I need to do any work today.

Wow Sarah. That's a lot for a school night.

YOU GUYS CRYSTAL LIGHT IS MY WHOLE WORLD NOW

i rode my bike to my temp job today and it was nice! i was grateful for the cold ears talk here earlier in the week, because when we were in target, i got a fleecy headband thing for $5, which worked perfectly and kept my ears toasty. i was the slowest person on the path, though...

It was a special occasion.

I'm glad Crystal Light isn't my whole world. I mean, whatever floats your boat.

It's like, I enjoy starburst, but am SO RELIEVED that I don't have to swim through the juice when it gets loose.

stupid thing about today's temp job: i got here a few minutes early and they sent me to the reception desk where i'm working with basically no instructions. i've been here before, so it's ok. except i think all the phones are on overnight mode so aren't ringing here. i tried to call the other reception desk but it won't connect. so i'm just sitting here waiting for someone that knows what's going on to walk past. i think it's going to be a long day!

JOHN JOHN JOHN HAVE YOU SEEN THIS?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!?????

I was going to say that deliciousness would ensue if Starburst were to start making beverages with flavors of their candies, but really that's already happening in the form of Crystal Light. Yum num num.

Colette, I hope you brought a magazine. Where are you working? How long is the assignment?

Sarah, you are bringing me the LOLz this morning.

Colette, Do any of the lines show that they are in use? If it's just one and you're pretty much the only person there, try clicking on that line. It could be the Do Not Disturb or Nights function.

Jesse is Mindy Kaling:

Do you believe 100% in all the well-documented benefits of drinking water?

Do you hate drinking water super passionately?

Crystal Light packets are for you.

Drinking as much water as all the health magazines say you should would make any normal human puke. I understand it makes your skin glowy and clear, and all that clean fluid flushes out your kidney and makes you skinny, so I try to drink 8 glasses a day. But it's hard, man. I used to (this is true) sprinkle a tiny bit of salt in my water, just so I would feel like I was drinking SOMETHING and not drowning myself in large volumes of watery-tasting water.

Listen, I know posting about Crytal Light packets is dangerously close to making this one of those lame anorexy blogs where I tell everyone how fantastic my B12 shots are and how you can survive days on just Pinkberry. I promise this isn't the beginning of some weirdo change in the tone of my blog (mostly I'll just blog about cool perfume and chili I ate or whatever). But Crystal Light - raspberry lemonade in particular - is just a really convenient way to trick your body into hydrating.

The great thing is that the amount of lemony sweetness is up to you. I usually just a like a faint sweetness so I feel like I'm drinking WATER, but if you really want to you can sludge it up and make it taste like a melted popsicle. Sometimes I just put some of the powder on my tongue. Whatever you guys. Just go buy these.

Price: $11.99 for 30

available at kmart.com

(I hate that shit, water4ever)

I like this comment from the baby name page Jenny linked:
...Here's an easy test I have used in the past when looking for a name for our second daughter. Take a name that is high on both parent's list (my wife and I both really liked Emily at the time). Find a fairly large gathering of toddlers and pre-school aged children (we were at our first born's micro soccer game, but the zoo, local park or beach work as well). Stand in the middle of the gathering and yell the name of choice at the top of your lungs. Wait 4-6 seconds and yell it again. See how many kids stop playing and start advancing towards your location. Emily didn't get a big response but Emma yielded about 15 respondents out of a test group of about 200. You really can only get away with this about once per visit, so make sure you test a name that is high on both lists...

I love Crystal Light but I love water way more. Water is awesome!!

True story: my niece has always loved water. Even when she was a wee tot it was her preferred drink, over Kool Aid and sodas.

I found my band jacket this morning! I am so happy. Except I already ordered another (non-band version) from American Apparrel. :( I guess I can return it, but I'm really lazy about boxing and shipping things.

Jesse, your neice and I have a lot in common.

ah, the office manager came through, it's the small button with a circle with a line through it-- that's apparently a sun.

i should ask if i can read sitting here, i know some places get weird about that. sarah, can you read at your desk? i'm at an advertising agency in streeterville, and they all talk funny here.

now i want some starburst! nummy fake fruit goodness. i've never had crystal light, i think i have same connotations as jordan does.

Jordan, where is the Kaling blog?

Talk funny how?

I <3 water.

I don't know if I'm really allowed to read at my desk, but I do it when there aren't very many people around and the bosses are out of the office. I think it's lame that in general it's considered ok to look online and read stuff there but not in paper form (because the first looks more like you're actually working).

I love Mindy. She was the SO funny on the Office commentaries.

Here is another bit from her blog. This came in at number 4 on her annual cute awards:
"Imagine being a baby water buffalo. Most of your day is your nose pressed against the furry leathery bottom of your mother, or aunt buffalo. Then suddenly one day you are wading around and a pack of lions FUCKING CHOMP ON YOUR HEAD. Not used to pain, you squirm around. Then their fucking friends START CHOMPING ON YOU TOO. When you finally get away, scared out of your mind, a CROCODILE GRABS YOU BY THE ASS and starts GOING TO TOWN on your legs and butt. Then your family pulls it together and is able to save your life.

When Greg made us watch this Youtube video at lunch, I was like, "Wow, there is a God." Or at the very least "God did good when making buffalo's hides so goddamned tough." Way to go God, or Mother Nature, or whatever. Way to go.

4. Baby Water Buffalo, Battle at Kruger National park"

http://mindyephron.blogspot.com/

she updated it today!

it had been a while.

I need to get a life.

also, if I were Mindy Kaling, I would seriously get a restraining order against me.

Fuck Mindy Kaling. She is the weak link on The Office. She sucks.

I WILL KILL YOU, JESSE!

she's written some of the best episodes of the office!

Against you 'shoe or against yourself?

'cause if you were Mindy then you would be Mindy, and you would be getting a restraining order for yourself, and it's hard to stay 100 feet away from yourself, unless you get to be you as well.

I know, right?

I was just trolling.

Un-troll.

Fuck Mindy Kaling. She is the weak link on The Office. She sucks.

Jesse does not mean this. We were just discussing our Mindy Kaling love.

oh thank god. because I like you, Jesse.

I don't know if I should say this but evan river wolf has mindy kaling stories.

I had a mystery poop experience last night. I came home, and there was a piece of cat poop on the coffee table. I figured Kitka was using it like a toy and I was all "DUDE, WE DO NOT DO THAT" and cleaned it up.

Then right before I left to go meet some friends, I noticed that I had stepped in some wet, smelly poop. I don't know if this happened in the house or on the way in from outside. I cleaned off my shoe, got in the car, went two blocks before turning around because it still smelled. I changed shoes, but couldn't leave because it smeled really bad in my dining room and I couldn't figure out where it could possibly be coming from! I think now that it was maybe just the shoes, which smelled worse because I had tried to wash them? Like the water made the poop remnants smell worse? WTF.

When I got home it didn't smell anymore, but I have this fear that there is animal poop hiding somewhere in my apartment.

(I'm sorry for anyone who actually read through the above)

HATE CRIME

Or cat turf wars

what's a mindy kaling?

I found 2 cockroaches in Brenda's litterbox. It's not full or dirty. It cleans itself! Also, I never had roaches until the past year.

I am horrified.