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This weekend Sinister FC had quite an enjoyable kickaround on Primrose Hill, but as REIGNING ATP 5-a-side CHAMPIONS (we demolished the NME in the final) we felt we were missing the blud'n'guts challenge of a proper competitive match. Racking our brains for a group of individuals even more foppish and workshy than ourselves, our thoughts turned naturally to ILx. Can you muster up a footie team between you? We can probably stump up a prize or trophy of some kind. And perhaps enjoy a beer or two afterwards.

― Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This will probably have to be in London. ILx/Sinister crossbreeds can play for whomsoever they choose, as their conscience dictates.

― Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

as in, like, mercenaries for hire?

sorry I missed Sunday by the way, slight groin strain dontcha know.

― chris, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I hope that clears up before Thailand, Chris.

― Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'd play for the ILX team! 15 goals in ten 5-aside matches this season!

― jel --, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

me too Edna, me too as then I wouldn't be able to swim away from the whale sharks, I take it that's what you meant?

Looks like the gloves are going to have to come out of mothballs, I may even get myself a new pair of boots, I do need some.

― chris, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'M IN! CAN PLAY GOALIE IF REQD. OR NOT.

― Dr. C, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I will cheerlead for ILx and hand the team COLD BEERS in half time. YAY! I always wanted to be a cheerleader!! Now I finally can!!! I'm off to buy POM POMS!!!

― Sarah, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

also ack acks

― mark s, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Are you being rude, Mr Sinker? (or what the hell is an ack ack, anyway?)

― Ed, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think they're in The Empire Strikes Back.

― Jonnie, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ack ack = not dissimilar from pom pom

― mark s, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

or boom booms. Like Big Bertha.

― Dr. C, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

can i cheerlead with you Sarah? i've never done it before. we can make up chants to put the other side off. what rhymes with COCKFARMER?? but best not let me near that cold beer... mmmmm, beeerrr....

― katie, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sinister rhymes with cockfarmer - at least as much as Sol Campbell and c*nt.

― Jonnie, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"ILE! RAH RAH RAH! SINISTARR ARE COCKFARMARRRS! GO ILE RAAAAHHH!!!!"

― katie, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

who is in the sinister team by the way? Who is referee?

― jel --, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Anyone else? Looks like we only have 2 ILX players or is it 3 (are you ILX or sinister - Chris?)

― Dr. C, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm undecided so far, quite possibly Ilx though!!

― chris, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'd be in for ILx - I'm the Goran Bunjecevic of park football!

― Jonnie, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The question = when, I'm really fancying a game at the moment.

― chris, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes katie you can cheerlead with me BUT first we must make our CHEERLEADING OUTFITS which will involve the phrases 'cannot cope, off to mordor' and quite possibly 'killed by orcs, stupid orcs' OR quite possibly... ect ect ect.

― Sarah, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

We'd need a mascot as well. Someone will have to wear a Pokemon outfit.

― jel --, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

uh-oh - OK sarah i am up for having our heaving chests emblazoned with "cannot cope" etc - but NOT for dressing up like a pocket monster. and no sniggering at the back.

― katie, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Paging Mark S!!!!

― Sarah, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i'm still sulking that my pom-pom/ack-ack suggestion has not been explored

― mark s, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

half time "orange slices and that fall ep" indieness ahoy!

― Alan T, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

anorack-acks for goalposts, for example

― mark s, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

damn that tab/submit combo

I meant to add, i have NO intuition for football, but if you do find yourself short on numbers I could do with the exercise. I'm quite the sprinter, but otherwise a bit naff.

― Alan T, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I wouldn't worry Alan, you'll fit in fine.

― chris, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Alan, are you otheriwse known as Chris Armstrong?

― Jonnie, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

oo, what gave it away?

― Alan T, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

hey Katie, Sarah: Team Rocket mascots with Meowth shaped pom-poms. But who gets to be James, and who Jessie. har har

― Alan T, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

this is a great idea! come on ilX-ers surely you can knock a team together, i would have to have a more advisory/orange-handing-out role i think. to give you some idea of the sinister levels of fitness, substitutions have been made in the past to allow players to have fag breaks...

― CarsmileSteve, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

We should be called "TEAM ILX"!

― jel --, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ack Ack (I think) from A/A, anti-aircraft (gun). 'Ack' was the letter 'A' in the WW1 Phonetic Alphabet (like the later Able, Baker, Charlie, etc. or current Alfa, Bravo, Charlie, etc.)

Me too old to play football.
Possibly too boring as well.

― David, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Surely some rules are in order. Since I am American, I will decide.

i. equal number of men and women on the field at all times.

ii. no practicing.

― Tracer hand, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i. equal number of men and women on the field at all times.

In five-a-side football? I sense Solomonic decisions.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

not necessary; 2 + 3 = 2 + 3

(cue mark s conniption fit)

― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I ponder at you gravely, Tracer Hand. *does so, with intent*

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So who do we have from ILX?

Jonny, Chris, Jel, me, Alan(?). That's 5.

Let's rumble!

― Dr. C, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have seen Big Dave in a football shirt. I don't think he's too old.

― PM, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

How old IS 'big Dave' ? I'm bloody 40 fergodsake!

― Dr. C, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh oh I want to be Jessie because she is only bad because she had a tormented childhood! EG when her toys got stolen and when she couldn't be as good a nurse as the Chanseys and had to turn to evil! And she has such lovely hair.

― Sarah, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Big" Dave is just Peter's little joke. Like a 7" single, I'm 45.

― David, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

HEY i am not being james! james is a mincing goon! if i am going to be ANYTHING pokemon-related (and i'm not) it will be CLEFAIRY and NOTHING ELSE! actually yes i will also consider being JIGGLYPUFF. but nothing else!

hey i have chosen all the pink pokemons!

― katie, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Like a wonky LP, I'm 33 and 3 quarters. According to the inside flap of his new book, Johann Cruyff only plays football with his grandchildren nowadays. But I don't know how old he is.

― PM, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

James also gets to wear elaborate gowns, and he gets all the good lines.

― Alan Trewartha, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*stamps foot* don'wannabejames!! wanna be PINK POKEMON!!

― katie, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

All right, all right! I'd be James, but it looks scarily like I might be on the pitch (some of the pokemon are on the pitch, they think it's all Omastar, it is meowth).

"Or prepare to fight, fight, fight". Do you think he veers into sounding like Snagglepuss sometimes?

― Alan Trewartha, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

there was a little ILx/Sinister horsetrading going on last night, and I think Ilx will have a strong side, could be interesting.

anyway where and when?

― chris, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sinister is running scared! :)

24th March?

― jel --, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

good call, a gauntlet needs to be thrown down.

oh dear I fear there may be a club night with me djing the night before, hungover footy = classic.

― chris, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

or, if thats too early...how about Easter Monday? (1st April - The April Fools Day Gauntlet Challenge Cup)

― jel --, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

not sure I can do that one, I'd go with the 23rd.

― chris, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So the 23rd then? I will have to go and report to my comrades on the sinister fitba yahoo group (two founder members of which, incidentally, seem to be now playing for ILx) and see if this is practical. I think you could do with a few more players, as sinister may muster up to 15 or so on a good day. Is Nicky D going to play? The pub mob mentality? Gareth? Dave Q???

― Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Who's gunna cheerlead for Sinistah? I reckon my ex comrade Ailsa should come down although I haf gleefully changed sides since the time of Bowlie...

― Sarah, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I can play on 23rd if it's in the morning and over by 12ish due to rugby commitments pm. Where's it likely to be?

― Dr. C, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'll get my mates Becks, Teddy, and Marcel to post on ILE, then they can play for TEAM ILE! (and they better not give any excuses about having other matches to play!)

― jel --, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Can we play properly*, like on a pitch with lines and goals?

* (arf arf)

― N., Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm in if I'm in town on the 23rd. Don't expect much in the way of running up and down from me, though.

― Tim, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

We usually play round the back of Primrose Hill but I'm sure anywhere fairly central is do-able. I severely doubt if many interwebmentalists on either team will be fit to play before noon on a Saturday, so we may need to reschedule for Dr C.

― Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Moore / Miller duo in astounding synchronous age / vinyl coincidence: FOR A FEW MONTHS ONLY: IS THIS BIGGER NEWS THAN ONCE-A-CENTURY PALINDROME HYPE??

Remind me to toss a Pat Benatar 7" and LP like frisbees in their honour.

>>> I think you could do with a few more players, as sinister may muster up to 15 or so on a good day.

Am I the only one to find this line cherishably, yet inexplicably comical?

― the pinefox, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Don't reschedule just for me, BUT I can make 24th, 30th, April 6th, April 7th. I can do 23rd if we're done by 1.00pm-ish.

― Dr. C, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The possibility of a tigermilking on the 24th (not confirmed yet) may well ruin the Sinister team's health, but..... there will be a lot of them around.

― chris, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Pinefox is NOT 78

― David, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'll never be 16 again.

― Tim, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"a tigermilking" ?! oh jebus. i ph34r this sinister list.

― Alan Trewartha, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

it's a long running club night Alan. Although you may be right to have the ph3a4.

― chris, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

well that's not so bad. i thought it might be sinister-slang for a boozor meet.

― Alan Trewartha, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'ph34r' = ?

Mooro: I'm a tape. In 1989 they were the biggest selling format. And then it was all downhill.

― the pinefox, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Where were you in '89?"

Edna is an 8-track

― David, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'ph34r' = fear?

― jel --, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

>>> "Edna is an 8-track"

= a lost B&S B-side?

But apart from that... why??

― the pinefox, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It was the only format left! (apart from a CD)

― David, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Stevie is very CD.

― N., Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

not a wax cylinder?

― chris, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

...and Tim H. is a flexidisc. Michael J. = MD?

Meanwhile, back on the touchline, I think the afternoon of the 24th probably sounds better. Is Tigermilking really going to be on a Sunday nite, Chris?

[Tigermilking vs Sussed in rubbish names for clubs FITE!]

― Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

sorry, meant 23rd, oops

― chris, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm sure Stevie = C rather than D.

― David, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tigermilking: good name for B&S-inspired club.

Sussed: bad name for a club. (<-- and that's a full stop.)

― the pinefox, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tigerpiss would be better, hur hur. I quite like Sussed as a club name.

― Alan Trewartha, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

From the above, the Pinefox is 1 7/8, Edna is between 300 and 500 and I'm anything from 400 to 1350. Being so old, is it any wonder we can't quite remember our precise ages? Can I be double-speed reel-to- reel instead? 1998 was a good year.

I'd love a bit of a kickabout, but I'm about as much use as a wet Echo. Where's Ally C?

― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ooh, go on, blind us with your technical term[ZoR].

>>> I'm about as much use as a wet Echo

Is this the simile of the year so far, or have I misinterpreted it?

― the pinefox, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Pinefox in misapprehension SHOCKER! 'Wet Echo' = wet Liverpool Echo newspaper = couldn't kick one's way out of a wet newspaper. Or have I misunderstood a more rarified ambiguity from the sonic alchemist?

― Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Edna in failure to appreciate SteadyMike pun shocker!!

Merseyspeak: Yew cudden punchan ole in a wet Echo = you are weak, lame.
Wet echo: is this effect not supplied by a reverb unit?

― David, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Aha! So the MONOBRANE phenomenon, once limited to Emma and Pete, has now infected Edna and David!

― MarkH, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

De plot t'ickens.

― the pinefox, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

With Edna & I its just a Stevenage thing.

― David, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

With Edna & I

Sounds like a great remake.

― Jonnie, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Anoraks for goalposts = metonymy, or not?

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, not really. In that Edna is not suggesting we use ourselves as goalposts. The normal phrase is 'Jumpers for goalposts'. Edna is making a joke.

― N., Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

no wonder i don't understand belle and sebastian..

― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 6 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

OK! Let's say:

Sinister FC vs ILx United, Saturday 24th March, 3pm

Venue? I can see the advantage of playing on a proper pitch with goals etc. Does anyone know of non-concrete 5-a-side pitches within London zone 2 that might available? Or should we stick with Primrose Hill/Regents Park with the customary jumpers for goalposts?

― Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The only place I know is the Goal centre, way out west in Alperton. Sorry, not very helpful!

― jel --, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ooops, of course I mean

Sunday 24th March

― Edna, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Market Sports in Wheler Arches, near Liverpool St (prev. in Spitalfields)

Sobell Sports Centre, Islington/Finsbury Park

― N., Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Do those have to be booked and paid for, N.? How much would they be/are they likely to be available?

― Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

We always play on a Sunday and rarely have a prob booking a pitch about a week in advance. Costs about £35 for a hour.

― N., Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ferndale Sports Centre, Brixton. Outdoor astro with lights.

― Dr. C, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

(Brixton yay!!)

― Sarah, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

N. is that one of yours astro turf?

Jel, Goals in Alperton is cool though, especially the 7 a side pitch, that rocks.

― chris, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes, astroturf. I ♥ astroturf. It's futuristic.

― N., Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

N on his way to foopball.

http://www.zip.com.au/~astroboy/images/16bl.jpg

― Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

We've got a Subbuteo astroturf pitch in our flat. It's the flickers pitch of choice you know.

― Jonnie, Thursday, 7 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Morning chaps.

Stevie, did you say you're playing for Sinister? That makes two of us then.

To make things absolutely clear, Tigermilking is happening on the 23rd, which is a Saturday. I shall ignore my disgust at ILX trying to rig the match by ensuring the oppoisition all have hangovers.

Alan, I'm very interested in your views on my club night. Perhaps you should do some research into my, ahem, "style" of football before you take to the pitch next weeknd :-)

ILX are nothing but a bunch of pooves. Onward to battle.

― Mark C, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hee :-)

― Alan Trewartha, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If ILX lose (which, I doubt)...I think we should challenge the Ooberman message board to a match.

― jel --, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

An ooberman message board? Zut alors!

I take it we are going ahead with the 24th then? Would anyone be able to book the pitch (I guess the one N. mentioned near Liverpool St) for that afternoon? I would do it myself, but I am a tad skint til the end of the month.

― Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oobeman? Poo-berman more like. heh.

― Alan Trewartha, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

**ILX are nothing but a bunch of pooves**

The blue touch paper has been lit. Honour the fire!

― Dr. C, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That stopped the thread dead, didn't it?

― Chopper Harris, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

bah, some of us are in france then (or at least we are if other people BOOK THE EFFING FERRY!!), also for the tigerwanking :( I never said sussed was a good name, it was just a name ;)

― CarsmileSteve, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Is this happening? I know it's a week and a half away, but is someone going to book a pitch? Where? Indoors? Outdoors? etc etc.

Don't mean to nag, just keen.

― Dr. C, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

We could hire a pitch etc etc, but this is beyond my budget at the moment, and, I think, beyond the combined organisational might of ILx & Sinistah. Therefore I propose we just go ahead with an outdoor match, in our usual spot alongside Primrose Hill.

So: Sunday 24th March - meet at the summit of Primrose Hill at 3pm for a 3.30 kick off?

― Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

RAH RAH COCKFARMARHS! *dons anorack-acks and rustles POM POMS*

― Sarah, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

right next to the sinister picnic....DANGER NOW!!!!!!

― chris, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Better do some altitude training :)

― jel --, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

As this looks like a home match for sinister, ILX could do with as many players as possible and supporters!

― jel --, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No coin throwers though.

― Jonnie, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

that sort of thing only happens at White Hart Lane doesn't it?

― chris, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It goes on everywhere. We shouldn't get punished just because we're good shots.

― Jonnie, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

unlike your strikers.

― chris, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Quite. It was ironic that the Chelsea fans missed Les with a bottle. Normally it's the other way around, fans take cover when Les is bearing down on goal. When we played Sunderland he managed, FROM 2 YARDS OUT, to hit the flippin' jumbotron.

― Jonnie, Thursday, 14 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So, 7 days to go, and i'm still not clear who's actually playing. Other than myself and Edna (cut us and we bleed sinister) and Cabbage and Robbo (cut them - please - and they bleed filthy betraying quisling scum), who's actually going to turn up? Perhaps the ILE brigade are going to quietly chicken out...

― Mark C, Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was under the impression that Johnnie, Dr.C and I were all playing. Also Alan, though he wants to be a sub.

― N., Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've just seen this thread. It's tremendously exciting, of course. Sorry I can't be there chaps. I would probably struggle to reach the subs bench anyway. I shall support Sinister from afar. Leopards can't change their spots, doncha know.

― Ally C, Sunday, 17 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I plan to play. How many do we realistcally expect to turn out? Enough for 5-a-side?

― Dr. C, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I AM PLAYING FOR ILE!!!!

― jel --, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I wanna be a sub in so far as I'm shit at football, so if there are 5 people more enthusiastic/deserving then I can duck out. PH34R my mighty 30-something tum.

― Alan Trewartha, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ph34r my goal hanging tap in!

― jel --, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm definitely in for next weekend. And I'm going to wear my medal that I got on Saturday.

― Jonnie, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I wiull be playing for ILe too, more to wind up the Kaiser than anything else ;)

― chris at home, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Alan, sinister's (possibly former without 96 ;)) power lay in the v tactical use of subs, so you'd still have an important role to play. who else is on sini fc these days anyway (ben? ken?? boyG???)??

― CarsmileSteve, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I might possibly be going away from London this w/e so can no longer guarantee my cheerleading skills. Unless I am persuaded to stay for Tigxx0rmilking. P'raps. Quien sabes eh.

― Sarah, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I hope this is still going by the time I'm in London in the summer. I'm dying to slot into the Carlton Palmer/Jan Molby/fat lazy unfit midfield role.

― Ronan, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Cool Ronan...I'm sure Sinister will want a rematch after their Team ILX beating.

― jel --, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes, please, a rematch in the summer. I may be able to make it to that. Strange how the match hasn't taken place yet and we're already on about rematches. This is turning into a Tyson-Holyfield affair. Who has the television rights?

― Ally C, Monday, 18 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The match will either be shown on Bravo or the Cartoon Network.

― jel --, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This will mean little to most people here, but the Sinister team, FWIW, is likely to consist of me, Stevie, Ben Apps, Jim Taylor, Ken Chu, Greg Pallis, Paul Field and Nick Passant. And possibly some more.

― Mark C, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tasty! I'm envisaging a Ken Chu - Foxy Field left wing overlap situation which will be tough to defend against.

― Tim, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hey! We should worry about ourselves, not the opposition.

― Jonnie, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

roll call!

and Hopkins I expect to see you on sideline in Sheepskin and sovereign rings.

― chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

We'll play like Wimbledon in the late 1980's. Dave Bassett is taking a day off to come and manage Team ILE.

― jel --, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

baggsy the Mick Harford role.

― chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Actually, I might turn out and play, at least for a bit / until my lungs give out completely.

― Tim, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So ILE has...Dr C, Chris, Jonnie, Alan, Me...Nick?...anyone else?

― jel --, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

and Robbo.

― chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Errr, I'm ILE too, just in case that wasn't clear. (If that was horrified silence please just carry on as you were).

― Tim, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Can anyone pinpoint where we'll be playing - I might drive over or take the tube. Where should I go?

― Dr. C, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dr C - it's kind of round the back of the actual hill in Primrose Hill park. If you're walking from the Camden Town direction, then up the hill, just the other side is a flattish area (I guess towards the Chalk Farm end) where we usually play. If there's any doubt, I guess we all meet up at the top of the hill before the game starts.

― Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

should team ILe meet up on Thursday for tactical discussion (and so we all recognise each other when we play)

― chris, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

and to discuss tactics. i say we aim to get more goals than they do. (Hope they're not reading this)

― Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

d'oh.

― Alan Trewartha, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Team ILE has lost already.

― Ally C, Tuesday, 19 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What colour are ILX playing in?

― Dr. C, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

good question, I have many footy shirts of many colours, red would be nice though ;-)

― chris, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'll wear my red-ish Pavement t-shirt. Urgent and key: what happens if it's pouring with rain? Who is bringing the football (should we except a ball provided by Sinister, can we trust them? :)

― jel --, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Jonnie's got a ball, and I have but it needs pumping up. Jel, I may have a spare red shirt, in fact I have, a sparta Prague one if you wanna borrow it.

Right, who plays where? I can be a big bruising keeper, or a big bruising centre forward, or sweeper. (can you spot the trend?) But I can bring keeper's gloves.

― chris, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

gloves? positions? what is this? I say we toss a coin, and one team goes skins, we have rush goalies, and the first to 20 goals wins.

― Alan Trewartha, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ok, I'm starting to worry now.

― chris, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I will play in attack or on the right, but I don't mind tracking back. Just don't put me in goal. Cool, Chris I may borrow that shirt, if it's not a problem!

― jel, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

iirc Jonnie's a left back, Nick where do you play? on the right? Things may be coming together.

― chris, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The only red shirt I have is a rugby shirt - I'll bring that anyway. I can play in goal (maybe we can take turns Chris?) or up front or midfield. Not too keen on defence.

― Dr. C, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ILx cheerleaders: are any GURLS or blokes who can't be bothered playing going to come along? I'm free and may well pop along but I'm not sitting by myself with only a thermos flask for company whilst watching you lot trot about a field.

― Sarah, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I play right back, yes.

― N., Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'll be going to Peckham boot fair that morning anyway, perhaps I will see if I can pick up a trophy for the winning team hemhem.

― Sarah, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I haven't seen Hopkins play football since he cracked his head so hard on the Camber Sands concrete he started earthquakes in Venezuela. I shall look forward to it, and also being Mauricio Taricco to Cabbage's Andy Morrison.

Should I mention a colour kit to Sinister? Or will anything other than red do?

― Mark C, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Pink or brown you duffers.

― Jonnie, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've always preferred pink, but I've been known to go for the brown every now and then.

I suspect we shall play in white.

― Mark C, Thursday, 21 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Have I got this right?

Meeting at 3.00 for a 3.30 Kick-off on SUNDAY 24th in Primrose Hill Park.

Playing on a flattish area towards the Chalk Farm end.

ILE to wear red

ILE to kick Sinister's arses.

― Dr. C, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Damn right good doctor, I will be in Camden somewhere warming up by watching Liverpool win again. I think you may be interested in this game Dr C?

― chris, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

what about meeting in the pub on the corner of regent's park road?

― Alan Trewartha, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

will it be showing Liverpool vs Chelsea?

― chris, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

>shrugs<

I think you may have fundamentally misgrasped my relationship with football.

― Alan Trewartha, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That Sinister mob are getting well feisty. Fur coat and no knickers I reckon.

― Jonnie, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

it'll be crutches and no teeth at the rate they're going.

― chris, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

examples of Sinister feistiness?

― Alan Trewartha, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

on the sinister football mailing list.

― chris, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What's the URL, please Cabbage?

― Probable spectator, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

it's a yahoogroup called sinisterfitba, not sure you'll be able to read unless you join? not entirely sure how they work, but hold on.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sinisterfitba/

― chris, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

hmm, sinisterfitba vs the Infirm + Lame Elderlies. not so feisty. GRRRRRR

― Alan Trewartha, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oooh LIKE I'M DEAD SCARED. I note they haf no cheerleaders HA HA.

― Sarah, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*trembles*

― jel --, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Can anyone provide a synopsis of what the sinisters have been saying?

― jel --, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah.

blah blah blah blah blah cardigans blah blah blah blah blah blah.

― Jonnie, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

says Jonnie who is actually on the sinisterfitba mailing list! erm as am I oops.

but yeah, mostly cardigans, and whether we should play with their lucky golden ball.

― chris, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Come over 'ere if you think you're 'ard enough!

Starry - you need to learn some ILX songs - here's a couple to start with :

" Five feet 2/eyes of blue/Nicky Dastoor's after you"

"Alan T/supersub/if he ain't here, he's in the pub"

― Dr. C, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Best footy songs ever = sinister cheerleaders at ATP Final 2000.

― the pinefox, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

most of those were just obscure references to mid-80s nme hacks though, PF (this was not a bad thing by the way ;))

― carsmilesteve, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"jel from the half way line"

We're not gonna have one of those stupid no kicking the ball above head height rules are we?

Who is the referee gonna be?

― jel --, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Will you be gracing Sunday with yr presence, PF?

― Dr.C, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

top of the hill at 3ish then chaps? if not erm, well, I'm not putting my mobile number so be there.

― chris, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ok, see ya all on Sunday.

― jel --, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

We're meeting at the top of Primrose Hill? Won't the climb tire us out?

― Jonnie, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

not if you walk from Chalk farm, less of a hill. The sinister mob always walk up from Camden which = forced route march. Walk smarter not harder chaps.

― chris, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And remember - PERFECT PLANNING PREVENTS PATHETIC PERFORMANCE. Make it your screensaver today.

― N., Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

nick = otm, oh yes. early to bed on Saturday yes? unless you are out spiking the drinks of the sinister team.

― chris, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This thread is turning into a Lucozade advert.

― jonnie, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

kissy lips? fancy trainers?

That bloke is the coolest.

― chris, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Possibly, doc, but I'm not sure that I should take the field of play when it features pros like you.

"Simon Reynolds' Black-and-White Army! Simon Reynolds' Black-and- White Army! Simon Reynolds' Black-and-White Army! Simon Reynolds' Black-and-White Army! Simon Reynolds' Black-and-White Army! Simon Reynolds' Black-and-White Army! Simon Reynolds' Black-and-White Army!"

― the pinefox, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'There's only one Ally Cook, there's only one Ally Cook, one Ally Co- ok, there's only one Ally Cook'

― ex-Cheerleader, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

LEAVE ME ALONE. Oh, alright then...

― Ally C, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

News coming in.....ILE trounced by Sinister. How amusing.

― Ally C, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The truth revealed! Sinister is nothing but a crew of repressed athletic types who only pretend to be wet twee fans to get the girls. I THOUGHT AS MUCH.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This is news?

― Ally C, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I just like imagining Stuart Murdoch down at an Old Firm game being very drunk and singing suspect songs about god. Wait, he already does.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Stuart Murdoch wouldn't be seen dead at an Old Firm game, I would imagine. Although I'm sure he was happily cursing Celtic after their victory at the weekend.

― Ally C, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

See, he is a secret fan nonetheless. Go into his room, all is blue.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ah, but these days Sinister is but a wholely owned subsidiary of ILE Corp., so We one anyway. Who played?

― Graham, Sunday, 24 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm in DC, using a friend's iMac (with a sticky mouse) in his cosy basement - only my second chance to check the Interweb in a week (they don't seem to go in for all this computery business in North Carolina) - and I need DETAILS, goddammit. Goals, scorers, the crunchiness of the tackling and the severity of the hangovers.

Oh, and if anyone taped Saturday's footie highlights, I'd love to see them on my return as I can't quite believe the score from Pride Park (I've checked three different web-sites and they all say the same thing). I'm all about NCAA basketball at the mo

― Michael Jones, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

We were pretty bad but well done to the chaps who managed to actually play and didn't fuck their legs up in the warm up. My leg hurts.

― Jonnie, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

pretty bad? we were awful, and too old (in the main) my thumb is fucked-up too thanks to a cynical off-the-ball-incident.

hardly a game of quality though.

at least 3 ilx ers on the sinister team btw ;-)

― chris, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

btw Jonesy, Moyes seems to have given Unsworth a talent by-pass, he was on fire.

― chris, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Come on then, what was the score?

― Anna, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

7-0 I think, a drubbing. not good at all.

― chris, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If I recall correctly, Sinister sneaked a victory :)

I have two blisters, and a dodgy knee now. Limped into work and got laughed at!

But, anyway, it was fun...maybe there should one day be a rematch on ASTROTURF, so that team ILE can play their natural passing game.

Oh, and nice to meet some more of you!

― jel --, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh ... well it's the taking part that counts ...

― Anna, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

spoken like a true girl ;-)

― chris, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I am going to break all of Sinisters legs, the buggers. NO TROPHY FOR THEM. Also, I forgot to go to the boot fair anyway. I think ILx proved themselves the moral victors after the match finished, by buggering off to the pub instantly, whilst Sinister faffed about STILL PLAYING the fules.

― Sarah, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

oh the pain. the pain of it all. no really, my legs haven't recovered. this exercise lark isn't all it's cracked up to be, you know. i was grate by the way, my reading of the pitch and an unerring passing ability dazzled the sinister team, leaving them no choice but to stand by and marvel... then score 7 or 8 goals.

― Alan Trewartha, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Most of the time, it seemed asthough sinsiter had 10 or 11 players on the pitch, compared to our brave and noble seven. And they dazzled us with their professional looking shirts.

― jel --, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The way they kept on bringing subs to kick in our by then knackered team was a bit off. It would have been more even if we had stuck to 5 a side, I reckon - then we would have had a chance to sub as well! Bad luck that Jonnie injured himself in warm up too.

― Sarah, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My legs are fine from the football. But they are not fine from cunting Camden town afterwards. Take away shit amusingly strewn across pavement for me to run through and slip on when running for a bus that I then reach in time (before it has pulled away from stop) but fail to catch owing to really unpleasant driver who just looks at me knocking politely before pulling away.

Sorry about the throw-in thing. I got it right third time.

― N., Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

BTW, nice top, N.

― Alan Trewartha, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Morning chaps!

― Mark C, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

good morning Mark.

― chris, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hmm, Mark seems in a good mood.

― Ally C, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Did he hack anyone yesterday?

― MarkH, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

nope, that was my job.

― chris, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

We were pretty bad but well done to the chaps who managed to actually play and didn't fuck their legs up in the warm up.

i knew that any "practicing" nonsense would come to no good.

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Cabbage was a dirty fucker - the only person who merited sending off with a couple of horrific moments. I think he may have mental problems too. That Dr C was a bit tasty though.

― Mark C, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I had one dodgy moment, Mark, I think you were man of the match by the way.

― chris, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I quite admired Tim's old skool centre forward play.

― Jonnie, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

mmmm, me too. although I was crying inside every time I hoofed the ball up the pitch, what an ugly way to play, but when you've got no subs and no-one can run that sort of thing tends to happen doesn't it?

― chris, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Poor Cabbage. I can see him now, flailing in tears as another 30- yarder goes awry. I can hardly watch.

― Ally C, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ally, it was worse than that, goal kicks hoofed into the box, hoping to land them on Tim or Doctor C's head. Mind you, G nearly scored with a lovely bicycle kick from one of them.

― chris, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

**That Dr C was a bit tasty though**.

I beg your pardon!

Look, we were humped big, but I think we gave it a go in the second half, and if it hadn't been for 3 late goals as we tired it wouldn't have been so bad. Anyway, well played Sinister. If we can get a few more players together we might be able to be a bit more competitive in a rematch. Can't see us *beating* those Sinister flibbertigibbets though.

For ILE I thought G showed touches of class, Tim H battled heroically up front and Chris kept out quite a few shots in the second half. The lowest point for me was attempting to hack down a Sinister chap, missing, but butchering Nick instead as he ran past. Sorry, Nick!

It was great to meet everyone again, and to meet The PF for the first time. Could've done with a bit more of Starry's Rum and Coke at half time.

― Dr. C, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'll start training. I can be a summer import. er.....for the summer.

― Ronan, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I think we could beat them Doctor C, especially with a few extra players, bear in mind that's the first time we've all played together too.

― chris, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

no you guys PLEASE. practice = dud. trust me on this.

― Tracer Hand, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I blame the pitch, long grass, potholes, couldn't run or pass on that :)...but...I will gladly take my place on the subs bench next time...and try to not stuff my face with cakes the week before the match. Time for hot cross buns I think...

― jel --, Monday, 25 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dr C = very much OTM. Unlike him, I *can* see an ILE victory at a later date, but let's enjoy this one while we have it.

Special mention: Dr C (tireless), Hopkins (tireless - well...), g (tough guy), Walton (skills 1), G (skills 2), Cazza (leadership), Welthorpe (Hollywood balls for Oscar night).

― the pinefox, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm already looking forward to the rematch - I'm happy to play for whichever team needs the players.

Though Jel, I'd have thought that the poor conditions of the pitch would be much more suited to your hoof and hope strategy than our skillful passing game :-)

― Mark C, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

**I'm happy to play for whichever team needs the players**

That'll be ILX then!

Seriously - let's get it on. We'll need a fit-again Jonnie and anyone else who fancies it.

The pitch - we would have been mullered even harder on a decent pitch I reckon, but it would be nice to have the rematch on a pothole-free surface. The ankle I turned near the end is fat'n blue. No effects pedals for a week or so!

― Tasty and Tireless Dr. C, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Given my rather embarassing non-appearance on the pitch on Sunday I would definitely like to play again. Well, when I say play again I mean play for the first time.

― Jonnie, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

For the Spurs!

― the pinefox, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Crikey, I didn't realise they were in that much trouble.

Almost as hopeful as the other week when Chris Geddes thought he had a chance at Vogts' new squad.

― Ally C, Tuesday, 26 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I was previously hoping to trace some Lichtensteinian blood, but it now seems they're as good as Northern Ireland, so I'll give it a miss.

It's a bit like my friend Harry, who's lkiving in Switzerland. He's a keen, moderately talented rugby player, and decided to find a club to play for. A colleague invited him along to a training session with the team he played for. Harry was very impressed at the standard of rugby, though a bit disappointed he wasn't guaranteed a game. Only when the next fixture was announced did he realise he's now playing for Geneva in the Swiss Premier League, and they're in contention for the championship :-)

― Mark C, Saturday, 30 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

six months pass...

Is there any interest in an ILX v Sinister re-match before Xmas?

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 17 October 2002 09:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Definitely! As long as ILX don't WUSS OUT again :)

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 17 October 2002 09:38 (twenty-three years ago)

**WUSS OUT**

You're gonna die Sinistah! (As long as it's not too cold and muddy).

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 17 October 2002 09:42 (twenty-three years ago)

we need to assemble a big squad, so that crappy players like me don't let the side down. So, step up to the plate and represent.

― jel -- (jel), Thursday, 17 October 2002 09:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I have no free time between now and December, I'm 'afraid'.

― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 17 October 2002 10:10 (twenty-three years ago)

But Tim you were the focal point of our attacks! Both of them.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 17 October 2002 10:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Jel is right - we need at least 50 players in our team. I'm happy to be put low on the list - I am old and slow and unfit, but I used to be pretty good (well, school team good, not pro-trials good).

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 17 October 2002 11:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Yay! Let's get it on! Sinister basically has a team, so it's up to you lot. I suggest aiming for 6 or 7 a side first off, so no-one gets too knackered. We'll even share subs this time, if necessary - we wouldn't want to give you an excuse to whine again...

But I think we have to be actually up for playing in the cold and wet. Well?

― Mark C (Mark C), Friday, 18 October 2002 21:39 (twenty-three years ago)

three months pass...

Why not get this on in a few weeks when the weather starts improve a bit. It doesn't HAVE to be ILX v Sinstah, even though that would be good, anything would be good - what about just getting a dozen or so players and having a five a side somewhere. Maybe on a *proper* 5-a-side pitch if anyone knows one.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 14:46 (twenty-three years ago)

No?

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 13 February 2003 07:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Good call, doc. I think the sinister fc kids are up for this. What dates are good for you?

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 13 February 2003 09:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think sinister should play ilx again. We might lose only win 7-0, and all the talk would be of historic decline.

― the pinefox, Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:04 (twenty-three years ago)

That is - we might lose // or / we might only win 7-0 // or - whatever. I get the idea if you do.

― the pinefox, Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:05 (twenty-three years ago)

If I ever stop coughing from the 'recent' flu (i.e. it hit me first three weeks ago) I'll be up for a game, if you bear in mind that I am old and asthmatic.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah - I'm thinking non-confrontational, hands-across-the-twee-divide football. Sinister has 5 or 6 who would turn out... if we could pool these with any interested ilxors we could have a good kick around.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 13 February 2003 13:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah - I'm thinking non-confrontational, hands-across-the-twee-divide football**

Yes, that's what I had in mind - I'd personally be up for a rematch against the Sinister axis of evil, but fear that we wouldn't get enough ILXers to make a game of it, similar to last time. I'm sure Martin would improve the ILX team (maybe shag the opposition to death? - only joking M ;), but we'd need to unearth a couple of Rooneys as well to trouble them.

Any ideas about a good venue - anoraks as goalposts again - or a *real* 5-a-side pitch? I once or twice played indoors at that Covent Garden place - Jubilee Hall? Does anyone know if you can book that, or do you have to be a member?

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 13 February 2003 14:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i'd love to play - i am young and asthmatic tho but if you need a goalie who sometimes like to drift outside the box ala Barthez, i'm yer man

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 February 2003 14:06 (twenty-three years ago)

hmmm, I thought I'd hung my boots up but ......

― chris (chris), Thursday, 13 February 2003 14:17 (twenty-three years ago)

hung up yer boots, cabbage!? You're only a lad!

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:00 (twenty-three years ago)

creaky knee DrC creaky knee

― chris (chris), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:05 (twenty-three years ago)

heehee that rhymes...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Moi aussi. A promising career ended through ~~chronic unfitness~~ a cruel injury.

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 13 February 2003 15:12 (twenty-three years ago)

nine years pass...

I could've bumped the PE thread but I feel I need to attract the British contingent. Telling a friend about my scarred knee, I got to thinking about my school's football fields for the first time in years - they were called blaze, or blaise, or something like that, I say something like that because searching the internet suggests they don't exist outside the west of Scotland. A kind of fine red gravel that was so obviously a horrendous and sadistic surface to make anyone play contact sports on, hence the scarring, and the numerous other bloody incidents, that I wonder how it ever came about. Does anyone have experience with these? 9am, mid-December, red blaze field, Mitre Mouldmasters pounding your icy blue legs, dunno why this hasn't been adopted as a torture technique rly.

― michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:57 (fourteen years ago)

Feelin' u bro. Add incessant freezing horizontal rain/hail for the full gallery. Mouldmasters though, I swear they would momentarily expand & contract on impact so's to actually grip the skin as they cannoned off.

It's 'blaes' iirc, which I think means 'ashes'. Didn't realise they were unique to that part of the world.

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:05 (fourteen years ago)

Blaes, aye. Also exist in the north of Scotland, as my lifelong terror of TCP will attest to.

― ailsa, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:22 (fourteen years ago)

ah, ash parks. my school had actual grass on our football field, as did the park adjacent to the house i lived in as a boy, but there were plenty ash parks around, and they still exist. i can still remember the bampots who would play on it as if it were grass, slide tackles in shorts and all that. they were made of sterner stuff than i. moldmaster against a cold thigh in the morning = deeply unpleasant.

― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:26 (fourteen years ago)

ah, blaes! I imagine the popularity up north is/was due to grass fields being in no fit state for sport for half of the school year, so in pre-astroturf days it was as brutally durable as surfaces got. 'Ashes' is a bit of a euphemism too, I feel that ashes properly speaking wouldn't dig themselves into your flesh quite so handily.

― michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

It may explain the high number of Glaswegians in management positions - no greater test of 'wanting it more' than a 50/50 on blaes. I don't think ash in the wound is actually fatal, but no effing way I was ever finding out.

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:29 (fourteen years ago)

yeah, i never felt like small red stones really equated to "ashes">

― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:34 (fourteen years ago)

my scarred knee was caused by one of those notable bampots going all out in a one-on-one and squashing my legs into the ground in the process. I won the one-on-one though, and only at the end of the game did I notice my legs were soaked in blood. A rare bit of hardmannery from me. After that I became an even more reserved player, and he became a murderer.

― michael nyman cat (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:35 (fourteen years ago)

Yes, was more gravelly than ashy.

Just found this while googling for definition of what the fuck it was made of:

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/opinion/survival-tactics-were-the-main-strategy-needed-for-red-blaes-pitches.17245698

― ailsa, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:36 (fourteen years ago)

After that I became an even more reserved player, and he became a murderer.

haw.

― zverotic discourse (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:38 (fourteen years ago)

Those pitches would get overgrown and half-disappear quite nicely in the summer; or alternatively they would dry out entirely and send out a fine pink cloud when a breeze got up.

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:41 (fourteen years ago)

Legend has it that the terraces at Hampden were railway sleepers set in blaes, but I remember them as crumbling concrete with gaps you could lose a shoe down.

― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:44 (fourteen years ago)

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