It's been 20 hours since the WGA contract expired, the actors have agreed to join our lines, we've got the teamsters aboard, and my red shirt is washed and ready...
― remy bean, Friday, 2 November 2007 04:04 (seventeen years ago)
Even this adorable child agrees:
http://www.yaledailynews.com/img/2006/11/17/best%20practices(sokolow)UP_014425_603799625.jpg
― remy bean, Friday, 2 November 2007 04:07 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.braggtopia.com/Timeline/articles/1984-09-11-photo.jpg
The Union forever defending our rights Down with the blackleg, all workers unite
― kingfish, Friday, 2 November 2007 04:11 (seventeen years ago)
I shall honor the picket lines by not watching TV.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 November 2007 04:12 (seventeen years ago)
hey! i'm (technically still) a teamster!
i've walked a picket line! i was out of work for a month and all that happened was my employer didn't have to pay workers during an expected down time and the union bosses looked good to the rank and file for being "tough on management".
― chicago kevin, Friday, 2 November 2007 04:19 (seventeen years ago)
i guess my enthusiasm to do not much will have to wait until monday so i do not have to do much to advance my career in which i am not really doing much
― remy bean, Friday, 2 November 2007 04:22 (seventeen years ago)
Shall Remy go? Yes he shall go. (He does not move.)
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 November 2007 04:26 (seventeen years ago)
in solidarity i will not write any sitcoms for the duration
― Dr. Superman, Friday, 2 November 2007 04:36 (seventeen years ago)
@WSJ
― remy bean, Friday, 2 November 2007 04:43 (seventeen years ago)
OH NO I will never find out if George gets to bone Izzy if this drags on too long!
― milo z, Friday, 2 November 2007 04:45 (seventeen years ago)
Hey, the Wobblies have an awfully nice webpage these days, and apparently I can pay dues using American Express.
― milo z, Friday, 2 November 2007 04:51 (seventeen years ago)
good luck. (don't we have another thread with a very similar title? i'm sure i was posting on it in july.)
― grimly fiendish, Friday, 2 November 2007 09:33 (seventeen years ago)
good luck remy (and any other WG ILXors).
― gr8080, Friday, 2 November 2007 09:38 (seventeen years ago)
You fools, you got 'Heroes: Origins' cancelled!
― Mikey Bidness, Friday, 2 November 2007 09:54 (seventeen years ago)
I'm glad your enjoying it Remy - despite being on the writers' side, literally, the strike could decimate our income. Not that I disapprove but it's not all fun and laughter.
― Mark C, Friday, 2 November 2007 11:33 (seventeen years ago)
xpost eh who cares about Heroes. Lost, on the other hand... ;_;
but otherwise, good luck WGA!
― Roz, Friday, 2 November 2007 12:04 (seventeen years ago)
it's not at all fun and laughter!
― remy bean, Friday, 2 November 2007 13:08 (seventeen years ago)
No I know - are you going to be substantially affected on a financial level? It's all sucky :(
― Mark C, Friday, 2 November 2007 13:10 (seventeen years ago)
A friend works for WGA; man, I bet he's having fun staying up for conf calls w/ the West Coast from NYC.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 2 November 2007 13:29 (seventeen years ago)
well, I'm flat broke anyway - and not really working at present - so I doubt this will affect me much in any immediate financial sense. (I once read that of all the guild's members, only about 15% are working at any given time) However, it also means that I am kinda hog-tied when it comes to finding new projects. And since the money is tight, it looks like I'll be working holiday meat counter at Whole Foods.
― remy bean, Friday, 2 November 2007 14:06 (seventeen years ago)
Will you be letting pretty girls steal sliced cheese?
― milo z, Friday, 2 November 2007 19:20 (seventeen years ago)
It's driving me mad... I have a new script all polished up and ready to go out, and people interested in looking at it, but now we can't really do anything with it until the strike is over. I've also been working on developing an animated feature, but with a company that has a deal with New Line, so it's looking like I'm going to have to put that on hold as well. Drat, drat, and double drat.
― Jeff Treppel, Friday, 2 November 2007 19:39 (seventeen years ago)
in the meantime, there is always...
THE THEATER
http://www.metropolitanconservatory.com/zack_red_curtain_monologue.jpg
― omar little, Friday, 2 November 2007 20:00 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.amrep.org/darko
― latebloomer, Friday, 2 November 2007 21:50 (seventeen years ago)
Looks like there's one last ditch meeting scheduled for Sunday morning.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 November 2007 02:00 (seventeen years ago)
yeah, i'm hoping...
i am not sure if i am allowed to work on a script for a foreign / non-signatory producer tho?
― remy bean, Saturday, 3 November 2007 04:51 (seventeen years ago)
I have a professor that's pretty much convinced that the strike will kill the Chicago industry, still in its infancy. He then proceeded to tell everyone graduating in the next two years (incl. me) that we were fucked unless we moved.
Bit dramatic, but probably based in some truth.
However, being raised with union sympathies, I, like Dr. Superman, promise not to pen a single plot line in which a physically unattractive husband has communications problems with his improbably gorgeous wife.
― en i see kay, Saturday, 3 November 2007 06:11 (seventeen years ago)
I believe that's alright, Remy, at least if you aren't in the guild already. The producer I'm working with on the animated feature sent me this link: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-strikeqanda2nov02,1,3566733.story?coll=la-headlines-business
― Jeff Treppel, Saturday, 3 November 2007 07:18 (seventeen years ago)
comic books?
― Oilyrags, Saturday, 3 November 2007 12:27 (seventeen years ago)
If you are a WGA member you can't work for ANYONE during the strike.
― Mark C, Saturday, 3 November 2007 13:39 (seventeen years ago)
Even though its an entirely different industry? That seems odd. Presumably they're not prohibited from tightening up that old novel they have sitting on the hard drive (and its difficult to see how such a thing would be enforceable anyway.) Also, if they are prohibited from writing for publishing during the strike, how are they going to get their side of the story out in editorials, etc.?
― Oilyrags, Saturday, 3 November 2007 14:10 (seventeen years ago)
And it occurs to me now what with media conglomeration describing publishing as an 'entirely different industry' may not be completely true.
― Oilyrags, Saturday, 3 November 2007 14:15 (seventeen years ago)
And it occurs to me I might have been too hasty. Certainly you can't write for the screen in any format. Journalism, literature etc. is presumably fine - there will definitely be a rash of books coming out in a year or so if the strike does go ahead.
― Mark C, Saturday, 3 November 2007 16:25 (seventeen years ago)
what i am unsure about (specifically) is if i am able to continue work on my independent pilot for a foreign and obv. non-signatory market.
― remy bean, Saturday, 3 November 2007 16:43 (seventeen years ago)
I am near-certain you will have to down tools Remy - we've done a lot of exploration of what can and can't be done lately and the only people who appear to be safe are non-members writing for non-signatory companies overseas.
― Mark C, Saturday, 3 November 2007 17:11 (seventeen years ago)
So I can't call Ned a scab when he finishes his Nanowrimo?
― John Justen, Saturday, 3 November 2007 17:16 (seventeen years ago)
I am my own closed shop.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 November 2007 17:34 (seventeen years ago)
We can call him a scab when he adapts it for the screen and sells it for $$$.
― Mark C, Saturday, 3 November 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago)
Now we're talking.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 November 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago)
Have your people call my people baby.
― Mark C, Saturday, 3 November 2007 19:18 (seventeen years ago)
Etc. etc. (Actually I'm kinda pleased with my effort so far this year -- obv. just a rough manuscript but I tend to envision things with camera angles in my head as I go.)
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 November 2007 19:23 (seventeen years ago)
Well, looks like there's a meeting scheduled for tomorrow morning... maybe they'll sort things out? Striking just seems like a very bad idea to me...
― Jeff Treppel, Saturday, 3 November 2007 21:02 (seventeen years ago)
OTM Jeff,
much as i support it, and i really do, the guild is trying to take on big media for money off (mostly) future (potential) non-traditional distribution profits : big media holds all the cards w/ their ability to convice general public opinion that the reason lost is delayed is because the writers are greedy manipulative bastards.
― remy bean, Saturday, 3 November 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago)
Talks have broken off and the strike's on. Good luck all.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 November 2007 06:45 (seventeen years ago)
Well that's taken care of. Now what do we have to do to get bloggers to quit posting?
― El Tomboto, Monday, 5 November 2007 06:57 (seventeen years ago)
The Board of Directors of Writers Guild of America, West, Inc. (“WGAW” or “Guild”) has adopted Strike Rules which will go into effect if and when the Guild calls a strike. A strike can occur only after the members of WGA East and West vote to authorize a strike action.
If there is a strike, each WGAW member is required to follow these Strike Rules. The purpose of these Rules is to win the best possible contract for writers. By following these Rules, you will enable your bargaining committee to be in the best position to achieve improvements in the MBA. Please take the time to read and review the Strike Rules in their entirety. Strict adherence by all Guild members leads to a more effective strike and ultimately a better MBA.
The basic principle behind these Rules is very simple: you (and your agent or other representative on your behalf) may not pitch to or negotiate with a struck company, and you may not provide writing services, sell or option literary material to a struck company.
As explained in some detail in the Rules themselves, prohibited conduct includes:
• delivery of written materials; and • negotiations and discussions regarding present or future writing projects.
There are also certain notice requirements, including:
• notice to the companies to return writer-owned “spec” literary material; and • filing with the Guild copies of unproduced literary material already written for a company.
There are Rules related to picket lines and other strike support activity, including:
• honoring all Guild picket lines; • performing assigned strike support duties; and • informing the Guild of strike breaking activity.
Finally, please note these other aspects of the Rules:
• Non-traditional media
The Rules prohibit writing services performed for a struck company in connection with new programming intended for initial viewing on non-traditional media (such as the Internet and cellular telephones), and the option or sale of literary material for that purpose.
• Animation
The Rules apply to (1) all network primetime animated series covered by a WGA contract and (2) contracts for writing services with struck companies in connection with fully animated theatrical features, unless covered by a current collective bargaining agreement with another union. Writers are advised to consult with WGA staff to determine whether animation writing is prohibited before performing any writing services. Members should assume that projects combining live action and animation, and live action-based processes such as motion capture, are covered by the Strike Rules.
• Hyphenates
The Rules prohibit hyphenates (members who are employed in dual capacities) from performing any writing services, including the “(a) through (h)” functions.
― Mark C, Monday, 5 November 2007 10:53 (seventeen years ago)
http://kingofbreakfast.livejournal.com/67646.html
Paul Dini passes along Micah Wright's explanation of the need for new contractual terms.
― Oilyrags, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:04 (seventeen years ago)
Oh God, please, couldn't Dini have found someone a little better than Wright, given his false Ranger stories that got him blacklisted from DC (and probably most of Time Warner)?
― carson dial, Monday, 5 November 2007 12:53 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.impawards.com/1976/posters/front_ver3.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 5 November 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago)
Um, does this mean WGA members have to stop posting to ILX?
― nickalicious, Monday, 5 November 2007 16:44 (seventeen years ago)
we just don't get paid for it any more
― remy bean, Monday, 5 November 2007 16:51 (seventeen years ago)
ILX is a subsidiary of Warner Bros
― Mark C, Monday, 5 November 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago)
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/11/05/tina_fey_2.jpg
― get bent, Monday, 5 November 2007 17:03 (seventeen years ago)
^^^ strike like a cobra in heat
― remy bean, Monday, 5 November 2007 17:07 (seventeen years ago)
wow, not as right-wing as i thought
xpost
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 5 November 2007 17:08 (seventeen years ago)
Um, does this mean WGA members have to stop posting to ILX? -- nickalicious
we just don't get paid for it any more -- remy bean
In that case, somebody better set up a Frank Kogan emergency relief fund.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 5 November 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago)
Last Friday's (?) ad from the trades w/r/t writer-producer solidarity. Quite a good list, huh?
― remy bean, Monday, 5 November 2007 17:15 (seventeen years ago)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=H-v2zwKDggI
― Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Monday, 5 November 2007 18:10 (seventeen years ago)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_3mw49mk_x0
― El Tomboto, Monday, 5 November 2007 18:15 (seventeen years ago)
lets all cry for hollywood
― chaki, Monday, 5 November 2007 18:16 (seventeen years ago)
r.i.p.
heaven needs some csi spinoffs
― omar little, Monday, 5 November 2007 18:18 (seventeen years ago)
Good thing the writers for Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles are showing their solidaity.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 5 November 2007 18:19 (seventeen years ago)
if heaven doesn't have csi spinoffs then I don't want to go there
― El Tomboto, Monday, 5 November 2007 18:19 (seventeen years ago)
hopefully one starring marg helgenberger
― omar little, Monday, 5 November 2007 18:23 (seventeen years ago)
word
― El Tomboto, Monday, 5 November 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago)
and me
probably lots of boring, sinless crimes up there though
― omar little, Monday, 5 November 2007 18:26 (seventeen years ago)
http://defamer.com/hollywood/heroes-of-the-writers-strike/jon-stewart-reportedly-offering-two+week-strike-fund-to-his-picketing-staffers-319006.php
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 10:37 (seventeen years ago)
Fuck yeah!
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 12:42 (seventeen years ago)
tina fey is all kinds of hot.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 12:44 (seventeen years ago)
If/when the dispute is resolved, will the spring season push into what would've been the summer season to make up for time off? Or are we again looking at the '94 baseball strike which canceled the World Series?
― Leee, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago)
All sympathy to remy and others, but what this country needs is less TV.
― Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago)
this sucks, i really wanted teri hatcher to break bonds' HR record
― omar little, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago)
LOST says that they're committed to showing the remaining 8 episodes of S4 whenever the strike ends.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 19:03 (seventeen years ago)
I would agree with Morbs but the "less TV" I would say this country needs is the kind of TV that's still cranking away just fine (not talking about ESPN)
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 19:04 (seventeen years ago)
at least the wire is wrapped and ready to go
― omar little, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 19:05 (seventeen years ago)
And by "showing" I mean "writing and producing." If it was just a matter of "showing," it wouldn't be a problem at all.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 19:05 (seventeen years ago)
What this country needs is better, cleaner, more efficient automobiles, but insinuating the GM assembly-line strikers are responsible is just snide.
― remy bean, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 19:09 (seventeen years ago)
In 2000, 84% of one-hour and half-hour programs were scripted and 16% reality, in 2005, 47% were scripted and 53% were reality.
― remy bean, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago)
Looks like the WGA has backed off on animated features, so my animated pitch isn't dead in the water. I get the feeling this is going to be a bad strike, though.
― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago)
― milo z, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 20:37 (seventeen years ago)
I wish I had my Daily Show. At least House was on last night. Srsly I called a hotline last night and the lady convinced me that life was worth living bcz House M.D. would be on many more seasons.
― Abbott, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 20:38 (seventeen years ago)
House last night was pretty wacky
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 20:44 (seventeen years ago)
I mean, CIA, brazil nuts, fake polio? wtf.
new chick looks like a porn star
― remy bean, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago)
new chick (aka The OC's favorite lesbian) is Alexander Cockburn's niece or something.
― milo z, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 20:48 (seventeen years ago)
omg Tina Fey I heart u
― HI DERE, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 20:50 (seventeen years ago)
House was HELL OF nuts...wtf dr.s w/out borders insaniac.
New chick wld not look so porny if they gave her normal eyeshadow and dyed her roots. Seems a good character.
― Abbott, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago)
What are the chances that this will last past mid-February?
I'm hearing that it's now expected to last until the DGA and SAG contracts also expire (at the end of June), but I'm trying to be optimistic.
― Melissa W, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:05 (seventeen years ago)
It's like a giant staring contest -- neither party wants to blink, but eventually someone is going to have to. On the writer aside, I'm guessing the lack of money is going to be a big factor. On the studio side, well, they kind of aren't going to have any television for the second half of the season. I'm hoping that the TV side of things is going to force them to get back into the negotiating room. But who knows...
― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago)
-- Melissa W, Wednesday, November 7, 2007 2:05 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
I'm thinking this is a bluff on both sides.
― remy bean, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:14 (seventeen years ago)
Can't we all just get along?
― Jeff Treppel, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago)
NWBTCW
― Oilyrags, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:38 (seventeen years ago)
Even considering that the 1989 strike lasted nearly as long?
― Melissa W, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago)
I'm going to ask again in case Jeff or remy missed my first post: will whatever time lost to the strike in terms of the TV season be irrevocably lost? Or will the summer season be pushed back once the strike is over?
― Leee, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago)
From what I've heard, if the strikes lasts until the end of December, shows will not go back into production for the current season, no matter what.
― Melissa W, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 22:44 (seventeen years ago)
steve carell suffering from enlarged balls.
― tipsy mothra, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 23:14 (seventeen years ago)
(aka The OC's favorite lesbian)
Olivia Wilde?
― jaymc, Wednesday, 7 November 2007 23:15 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6hqP0c0_gw
― Oilyrags, Thursday, 8 November 2007 00:11 (seventeen years ago)
this is a good source for strike stories
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/
― omar little, Thursday, 8 November 2007 00:27 (seventeen years ago)
I was talking with a friend who works at a producer's office, and she said it's super boring there this week. They've just been renting movies and taking three-hour lunches. So, yeah. Sucks for everyone.
― Jeff Treppel, Friday, 9 November 2007 01:19 (seventeen years ago)
oh yah that sounds horrible. im crying.
― chaki, Friday, 9 November 2007 01:27 (seventeen years ago)
honestly, jeff, i hope you were joking.
― chaki, Friday, 9 November 2007 01:37 (seventeen years ago)
Well, if the producers are bored, that means movies aren't getting developed, and people are going to start losing their jobs, which is going to be a problem in the long term. For writers included. I mean, I totally support my brothers in penmanship, I just wish we could get this sorted out so everyone can go back to work and continue putting out the quality product Hollywood is known for!
― Jeff Treppel, Friday, 9 November 2007 01:40 (seventeen years ago)
(I was being facetious, yes, but it doesn't bode well -- if this is what it's like the first week of the strike, imagine what it's going to be like four months in.)
― Jeff Treppel, Friday, 9 November 2007 01:42 (seventeen years ago)
strike is yay see !!!!
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2007/11/08/us/09writers.1-337.jpg
― jhøshea, Friday, 9 November 2007 01:42 (seventeen years ago)
everbdy loves strike
STAY OFF MY SIDE
― remy bean, Friday, 9 November 2007 02:14 (seventeen years ago)
see also zach braff
I absolutely support the writers, and obviously want the very best contract for when I get into the guild. My point is that the strike isn't a good thing for anyone, and I get the feeling it's going to get pretty old pretty fast. I just wish the two sides would get back in the negotiating room and work out their differences.
― Jeff Treppel, Friday, 9 November 2007 04:36 (seventeen years ago)
this is all over online and dvd residuals right? I don't understand at all why the producers are so against giving up points on what seems to amount to free $$$$ for everyone.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 9 November 2007 04:38 (seventeen years ago)
Because they want to keep that free money so they can throw themselves sex and coke parties, obviously.
― Jeff Treppel, Friday, 9 November 2007 04:44 (seventeen years ago)
Tom: DVD battle has been given up already. Writers caved. Truthfully, they probably lost the argument years and years ago.
I think the online/digital media issue is less about residuals and more to do w. the fact nobody knows exactly where the business of dramatic writing will be in 5 or 10 years / where the balance between traditionally distributed content and "new media" will settle. Producers don't want to give away the farm, writers don't want to get screwed again.
It's all nuanced and acrimonious, and both sides are greedy (at least as far as their posturing goes).
What I don't understand is why an arrangement can't be brokered that'll be something like:
Writers are entitled to receive a guild minimum fee for original content, which includes initial airing rights, a traditional (broadcast) residual schedule, as well as no less than .0x% of ad (or otherwise generated) revenue per-view/purchase on digital media including DVD sales, and other unspecified post-broadcast distributions, not to exceed [let's just say] 5% except in hyphenate instances.
― remy bean, Friday, 9 November 2007 05:43 (seventeen years ago)
I have received a dozen emails a day from various sources about the strike and I still don't know what the actual points of contention are.
― Mark C, Friday, 9 November 2007 11:22 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2007-11-07-writers-strike-side_N.htm
South Park is continuing, Bill Maher got cut short, and the 2nd half the last BSG season is up for grabs.
― kingfish, Saturday, 10 November 2007 23:01 (seventeen years ago)
will Jon Stewart host the Oscars if he has to write all the jokes? or will he commit seppuku when his show misses all the 'meaningful' primaries?
"Forget it, Jake. In an ethnic enclave like Chinatown, things can be hard to figure out."
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/if-amateurs-wrote-the-best-movie-lines/
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 20:14 (seventeen years ago)
television and film to be replaced by video games in 2009
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 20:15 (seventeen years ago)
i wonder how many writers are at home today smoking weed and playing mario galaxy?
― remy bean, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 20:19 (seventeen years ago)
+1
I have received a dozen emails a day from various sources about the strike and I still don't know what the actual points of contention are.-- Mark C, Friday, November 9, 2007 11:22 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Link
-- Mark C, Friday, November 9, 2007 11:22 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Link
On the off chance that this isn't a joke, the issues are getting paid for web content and a larger share of home video royalties.
― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 20:26 (seventeen years ago)
so no new Office after this week?
― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 20:30 (seventeen years ago)
correct
― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago)
most writers i know are either glad their projects just got approved before the strike or miserable because they didn't or they're still writing on their own spec ideas, albeit very quietly. none of them are are going to cross any picket lines and they'll honor whatever's going on but none of them really care about the strike, for whatever reason. i know some girl who keeps trying to get some friends of mine involved in the strike, all like "c'mon guys why aren't you interested in supporting your fellow writers?" and she's barely a writer, i think she just wants to network.
― omar little, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 20:41 (seventeen years ago)
yah the only writers really concerned are the tv 9-5er's
― chaki, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago)
-- Jordan, Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:30 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
-- Oilyrags, Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:31 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link
I asked this in the wrong thread, but does this mean, like, ever? Is the show over until further notice, or over, full-stop, enjoy the reruns?
― Will M., Tuesday, 13 November 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago)
people still trying to bust their ass and get a steady paycheck are highly likely not to give a fuck vis a vis points on Amazon.com UnBox downloads
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago)
so what omar sez makes a lot of sense, to me
greg fitzsimmons today was commenting on how much networking was going on in the picket lines on stern.
― chaki, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 21:56 (seventeen years ago)
the strong shows will come back, the weaker-to-borderline ones might not. yeah tv writers have a stronger group in a lot of ways but they've also got more to lose, whereas a lot of film writers--even if they do have day jobs--aren't really affected as much.
― omar little, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago)
i mean they're affected certainly, but more along the lines of "well this strike just delayed my shit" rather than "okay let's strike and fight for what we want!"
― omar little, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago)
-- chaki, Tuesday, 13 November 2007 21:00 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link
So far off the money you're joking, right?
― Mark C, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 00:55 (seventeen years ago)
not concerning the dvd and internet sales but i mean concerned about working at the moment.
― chaki, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 00:59 (seventeen years ago)
to answer the question above, I'm sure the office will come back when and if the strike ends, probably not until next season
― akm, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 00:59 (seventeen years ago)
We rep a lot of British film writers, some of whom are WGA members but most of whom aren't, and a lot of them are having to pull out of jobs which they may or may not get back.And they're not all rich enough to be able to take an indefinite period without cash lightly, I promise you!
― Mark C, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 01:02 (seventeen years ago)
http://i3.tinypic.com/6khoub6.jpg
lol
― jhøshea, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago)
"John, Robin! You're both pretty; def. would smash." - Rudy Giuliani
― HI DERE, Wednesday, 14 November 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago)
New talks scheduled for November 26. Here's hoping!
― Jeff Treppel, Sunday, 18 November 2007 22:30 (seventeen years ago)
Too fucking right.
― Mark C, Monday, 19 November 2007 10:09 (seventeen years ago)
There's a NYC 'solidarity' rally in Wash Sq tomorrow at noon.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 26 November 2007 18:35 (seventeen years ago)
There's also some "insider" rumors that a deal may have been reached and may be all legally worked out before christmas!
― Clay, Monday, 26 November 2007 19:28 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/dare-we-hope-a-deal-has-been-struck/
And there is the source of the rumors. Which isn't necessarily credible on its own, until you notice that NBC and ABC just ordered full seasons of several of their scripted series. That is a very good sign.
― Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 00:48 (seventeen years ago)
Right, yeah, today NBC picked up the back 9 for both Chuck and Life (unfortunately not Journeyman, which I was just starting to enjoy) so that's giving me a lot of optimism.
― Clay, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 00:50 (seventeen years ago)
so which side was bluffing, then?
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 00:52 (seventeen years ago)
just gimme my BSG/Office
― kingfish, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 00:54 (seventeen years ago)
Doing a search for work:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/biondino/wga.jpg
― Mark C, Tuesday, 27 November 2007 11:20 (seventeen years ago)
Carson Daly about to defy writers strike
...too easy
― bnw, Wednesday, 28 November 2007 05:21 (seventeen years ago)
Looks like a looooong one...
Hollywood Writers Strike Takes on Bitter Tone By REUTERS Filed at 6:31 a.m. ET
LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Where to from here?
That was the rueful question posed around Hollywood on Monday, three days after the dramatic collapse of contract talks between the Writers Guild of America and the Alliance of Motion Picture & Television Producers, the bargaining arm of the studios.
The writers strike, which began November 5, is now likely to persist well into 2008, turning Hollywood into a virtual ghost town as film and television production shuts down.
There seems little chance of a resumption of negotiations, which center around payments for content delivered over the Internet and wireless devices such as cell phones. Emotions are running high, as evidenced by WGA East president Michael Winship's bitter denunciation of the studios Monday.
"They lie," Winship said in a statement. "And then they lie again. And then they lie some more. Because the AMPTP wants to create confusion, doubt, fear and dissension. They want to divide and conquer, to undercut our proven solidarity."
The guild has suggested it might try to woo individual studios into contract talks, targeting moderate studio CEOs and the heads of smaller entertainment companies. Such a strategy could drive a wedge in the production community, but for now it seems to be more of a theory than a reality.
On the management side, just about everybody in Hollywood expects the AMPTP to announce contract talks with the Directors Guild of America (DGA) imminently. Although it's unlikely actual negotiations would begin before January 1, the DGA is prepared to launch early talks in advance of its June 30 contract expiration.
The DGA, which already has a negotiating committee in place for such talks, has a history of sealing new pacts about six months in advance of any expiration date. The directors were prepared to connect with the AMPTP in November, only to delay the move when the WGA launched its work stoppage.
Then, with the strike dragging on for weeks, the DGA was expected to connect with the AMPTP sometime this month, but the directors backed off again when writers and management resumed bargaining November 26. With negotiations between the WGA and AMPTP now off again, it's tough to see what might keep the DGA from beginning its own negotiations with studio reps next month.
"I think the DGA's just about done waiting," said entertainment attorney Jonathan Handel, a former associate counsel with the WGA West. He said the WGA has been "outmaneuvered."
Meanwhile, the WGA is taking fire from a Hollywood union that represents behind-the-scenes workers such as drivers and stagehands. Thousands have been laid off, to the chagrin of Tom Short, the head of the Intl. Assn. of Theatrical Stage Employees. On Friday, he accused WGA leaders of holding to an overly rigid negotiating strategy. And Sunday, hundreds of displaced workers marched through Hollywood in a protest aimed at urging both sides back to the bargaining table.
On Monday, writer-director Craig Mazin ("Superhero!") used his ArtfulWriter blog to suggest guild leaders focus primarily on new-media compensation, and drop peripheral demands such as jurisdiction over writers on reality TV shows.
"Now it's time to dramatically reduce all of our demands down to the only one that matters, in an attempt to wrest this negotiation back to our union and away from the DGA," he said.
Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 18:40 (seventeen years ago)
This week's The Business had some really pithy quotes re. the strike, and a good synopsis of how the writers have been out-maneuvered at every step by the AMPTP.
― remy bean, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 18:51 (seventeen years ago)
the best synopsis I heard (and it was used as a promo) was something like 'The producers are saying they have no money for the writers ... somewhat like Dudley Moore in the movie 'Arthur' who spends millions on wine and food and women and then tells the butler that he can't pay his salary.'
― remy bean, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 18:58 (seventeen years ago)
Dudley Moore: muy classic Strike (mainly its consequences for my selfish tv desires): extra dud
― Abbott, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 19:05 (seventeen years ago)
seth godin says none of it matters, because you know, he's already on web 2.8: http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2007/12/monopolies-seve.html
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago)
Bill Carter, NYT:
NBC officially announced yesterday that its two late-night stars, Jay Leno and Conan O’Brien, will return to the air on Jan. 2 even if the strike against networks and studios by entertainment writers is not resolved by then.
The two hosts would be forced to perform without writers and might have to face opposition from the Writers Guild, which has thus far urged the late-night hosts to support the strike by staying off the air. However, the executive producers of both shows said yesterday that they believed the tone of that opposition has softened in recent weeks after the hosts began paying the salaries of the nonwriting staff members of their shows.
“I think the temperature may have changed a little,” said Jeff Ross, the executive producer of Mr. O’Brien’s show.
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 17 December 2007 21:32 (seventeen years ago)
Permanent Improv!
― sexyDancer, Monday, 17 December 2007 21:33 (seventeen years ago)
Conan's strike beard
― Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 03:42 (seventeen years ago)
FREE AT LAST, CONAN
― Jordan, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 04:04 (seventeen years ago)
i like that beard!
― latebloomer, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 04:05 (seventeen years ago)
Barbaric.
― Kerm, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 04:13 (seventeen years ago)
Conan should keep the strike beard when he starts filming.
― milo z, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 04:20 (seventeen years ago)
The Writers Guild has notified the Hollywood Foreign Press Association and Dick Clark productions that their requests for an agreement to allow writers to prepare material for the 65th Annual Golden Globe Awards show have been denied.
The Guild has also denied a request from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences for a waiver in connection with the use of clips from motion pictures and past Academy Awards shows for use during the annual Academy Awards presentation.
― Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago)
i do not like conan's strike beard. dave's is a-ok, tho.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/12142007/tv/shave__dave__787602.htm
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago)
i like it! he looks rugged!
― The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago)
He better be careful when he shaves that, because he might cut himself, and it'll bleed, and he'll just look like a BIG SCAB when he comes back to work.
― Sara Sara Sara, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 19:44 (seventeen years ago)
I think you should be 50 before you're allowed to have a beard. Death to indiefuzz.
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago)
Colbert and Stewart to return Jan. 7th - no clear word on whether it'll be wit5h scabs or no writers at all...
― Simon H., Friday, 21 December 2007 01:46 (seventeen years ago)
hahaaaa, Dave kept the strike beard.
― Rock Hardy, Thursday, 3 January 2008 04:38 (seventeen years ago)
Was it any good? Apparently he can't write his own jokes because he's an equity member, so he's had to rely entirely on Bulgarians or whoever's doing it now.
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 3 January 2008 04:40 (seventeen years ago)
It's just starting. He has his writers -- he owns the show, not CBS, and negotiated a separate agreement with the union for his show and the show with Craig Ferguson.
― Rock Hardy, Thursday, 3 January 2008 04:44 (seventeen years ago)
Oh yes, I remember hearing about that.
Are Leno and Conan back tonight as well? And they've done a similar deal with some writers, yeah?
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 3 January 2008 04:47 (seventeen years ago)
I don't believe they have.
― Rock Hardy, Thursday, 3 January 2008 04:51 (seventeen years ago)
Yes they're both back but neither has writers in tow. As far as I know both Stewart and Colbert will also be flying without anybody in the cockpit. And neither's allowed to write anything. Won't they just try to protest it all somehow?
― Clay, Thursday, 3 January 2008 04:51 (seventeen years ago)
Surely they are both hyphenate cases?
― remy bean, Thursday, 3 January 2008 04:53 (seventeen years ago)
Apparently Leno is answering audience questions.
― Rock Hardy, Thursday, 3 January 2008 04:53 (seventeen years ago)
Ahahaha oh dear.
Everything I've said so far is wrong ;_; but I think this is correct: Cops began because of the '80s US writers' strike, and led to all sorts of scriptless crap. I hate to think what'll happen this time.
― Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 3 January 2008 04:55 (seventeen years ago)
too late!
― latebloomer, Thursday, 3 January 2008 05:06 (seventeen years ago)
If they haven't settled by the time the Wire finishes, I'm just throwing away my satellite box and doubling my Netflix subscription.
― milo z, Thursday, 3 January 2008 05:10 (seventeen years ago)
Conan minus writers is actually the funniest episode of Late Night I've seen in who knows how long. I doubt he can keep it up forever, but it might not be as painful to watch as I'd feared.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 January 2008 06:01 (seventeen years ago)
Jimmy Kimmel: professional ASS
"During his opening, Kimmel criticized WGA members picketing Leno and O'Brien: "I don't want to depart too much from the party line, but I think it's ridiculous. Jay Leno, he paid his staff while they were out. Conan did the same thing. I don't know. I just think at a certain point you back off a little bit.""
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 3 January 2008 07:11 (seventeen years ago)
Watching Letterman, he obviously really supports the writers and it's very nice and almost touching to see. He's almost setting this up as an ideological showdown between his show and Leno's. And of course it's not so much Leno's fault but he's also not helping things telling jokes on his show about how the po po writers have it so so bad.
― Clay, Thursday, 3 January 2008 08:07 (seventeen years ago)
Letterman fucking killed it tonight
― chaki, Thursday, 3 January 2008 10:06 (seventeen years ago)
I remember hearing that once during a writers' strike they had to get someone who was actually funny to present the Academy Awards. Maybe this could be the way forward for American television.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Thursday, 3 January 2008 11:02 (seventeen years ago)
They have a funny "liberal" SCAB hosting it this year.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 3 January 2008 14:50 (seventeen years ago)
This = truly bad-assed
― nabisco, Thursday, 3 January 2008 18:00 (seventeen years ago)
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20080104/2008_01_02t202000_299x450_us_screenwriters_strike_pix.jpg?x=229&y=345&sig=JlECbfDyURRYBY40gB56HA--
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080103/capt.b86cfccd53d24fe8bec177d29a22d1f4.hollywood_labor_late_night_la106.jpg?x=400&y=267&sig=9SHvPlpqXqwd1vMa3RlnPg--
― kingfish, Friday, 4 January 2008 06:57 (seventeen years ago)
-- Autumn Almanac, Wednesday, January 2, 2008 11:55 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link
God forbid television suddenly become full of scriptless crap...
― Hurting 2, Friday, 4 January 2008 07:00 (seventeen years ago)
So, who watched Conan? Is it worth tracking down the vid?
― kingfish, Friday, 4 January 2008 07:09 (seventeen years ago)
I watched it last night, but I was busy with caucus coverage tonight.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 January 2008 07:20 (seventeen years ago)
Leno's show hasn't been too different so far, perhaps a bit more looser with a couple good off-the-cuff lines (and that random story about his girlfriend who wouldn't move to California with him).
Conan so far is pushing the zany button as far as he can his pre-interview filler. I was pretty entertained with him climbing the rafters last night and talking to the hand-held camera a la Blair Witch, even if it was only done out of desperation. The good thing is that he seems to be doing more remote segments, which are usually great. The beard makes him look so much older though. I keep thinking of a perverse Jack Nicholson.
― Michael F Gill, Friday, 4 January 2008 12:53 (seventeen years ago)
did Conan shave? Letterman said last night he was now the only host with facial hair "except for The View."
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 4 January 2008 19:02 (seventeen years ago)
conan has not shaved. nbc.com has the episodes, and they're both pretty hilarious (at least the parts before the guests come on).
― Jordan, Friday, 4 January 2008 19:03 (seventeen years ago)
is it possible we're gonna have a brief golden age of improv/unpredictability here?
― gabbneb, Monday, 7 January 2008 21:54 (seventeen years ago)
Very, very brief.
― Jeff Treppel, Monday, 7 January 2008 21:57 (seventeen years ago)
It could be the catalyst for a new era in television.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 7 January 2008 21:58 (seventeen years ago)
there would be, like, all sorts of "reality" shows and stuff
― gabbneb, Monday, 7 January 2008 21:59 (seventeen years ago)
Golden Globes 'big show' cancelled
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 7 January 2008 21:59 (seventeen years ago)
the revenge of sean penn
― gabbneb, Monday, 7 January 2008 22:02 (seventeen years ago)
― omar little, Monday, 7 January 2008 22:04 (seventeen years ago)
No but imagine how cool the news would be if the anchor just improvised it all.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 7 January 2008 22:11 (seventeen years ago)
so I was watching jay leno, and at some point they made john melendez run around in the borat swimsuit.
I.JUST.DON'T.KNOW.
― warmsherry, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:13 (seventeen years ago)
Clearly it will sort the wheat from the chaff.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 7 January 2008 23:43 (seventeen years ago)
Friend who works for WGA East just emailed: "Life in disarray."
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 11 January 2008 16:48 (seventeen years ago)
TV writer contracts cancelled.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 13:41 (seventeen years ago)
ABC straps camera to Britney Spears's head, starts new prime time craze
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 21:17 (seventeen years ago)
Word is it should be settled soonish.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2008 01:12 (seventeen years ago)
A deal has been struck between the major media companies and the Writers Guild of America to end the writers' strike, former Walt Disney chief executive Michael Eisner revealed on CNBC."It's over," Eisner said. "They made the deal, they shook hands on the deal. It's going on Saturday to the writers in general."
"It's over," Eisner said. "They made the deal, they shook hands on the deal. It's going on Saturday to the writers in general."
Not official yet, but if MICHAEL EISNER says so, then...
― Clay, Friday, 8 February 2008 01:10 (seventeen years ago)
I picketed today! It was fun sticking it to the man.
― Jeff Treppel, Friday, 8 February 2008 01:11 (seventeen years ago)
Rumour was it was supposed to get sorted last weekend but after the networks leaked that I've spoken to a few people since then who say it could go on until the summer.
― caek, Friday, 8 February 2008 01:13 (seventeen years ago)
Well, they are still having that big meeting on Saturday, so I suspect we will know after that.
― Jeff Treppel, Friday, 8 February 2008 01:15 (seventeen years ago)
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f325/caek/IMG_2622.jpg
― caek, Friday, 8 February 2008 01:16 (seventeen years ago)
don't take too much glee in this strike shit, esp since i know a few people who have been out of work since this thing started.
― omar little, Friday, 8 February 2008 01:18 (seventeen years ago)
Tentative agreement reached, etc.:
In a statement, guild leaders said the three-year deal made significant strides toward ensuring that writers get a fair cut of new media revenues."It is an agreement that protects a future in which the Internet becomes the primary means of both content creation and delivery," the guild said in an e-mail to it members. "We believe that continuing to strike now will not bring sufficient gains to outweigh the potential risks and that the time has come to accept this contract and settle the strike."
"It is an agreement that protects a future in which the Internet becomes the primary means of both content creation and delivery," the guild said in an e-mail to it members. "We believe that continuing to strike now will not bring sufficient gains to outweigh the potential risks and that the time has come to accept this contract and settle the strike."
Being presented to the writers today.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 February 2008 18:17 (seventeen years ago)
so is it over?
― milo z, Monday, 11 February 2008 18:46 (seventeen years ago)
They're furiously pounding out 30 Rock scripts for a nation of crying bloggers as we speak.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 February 2008 18:48 (seventeen years ago)
will "30 Rock" be infecting US movies 3 years from now like "Arrested Development" currently is?
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 11 February 2008 18:51 (seventeen years ago)
go make your diarrhea on another thread, please
― remy bean, Monday, 11 February 2008 18:52 (seventeen years ago)
How is Arrested Development currently "infecting" US movies? By reviving the career of Jason Bateman?
― jaymc, Monday, 11 February 2008 18:57 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.porkbelly.net/azupload/uploads/widow/top10moments/Chinatown.jpg
― omar little, Monday, 11 February 2008 19:00 (seventeen years ago)
xp: yeah, by making movies "very Michael Bluth" ;)
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 11 February 2008 19:01 (seventeen years ago)
I'm guessing he means by giving Michael Cera a movie career?
xp
― Jordan, Monday, 11 February 2008 19:01 (seventeen years ago)
babelfish.morbius.com/
― remy bean, Monday, 11 February 2008 19:06 (seventeen years ago)
U R ALL CORRECT!
― Dr Morbius, Monday, 11 February 2008 19:13 (seventeen years ago)
More Office episodes plz kthxbi
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 11 February 2008 19:42 (seventeen years ago)
Best result of strike: episodes of The People's Court where litigants walk into the courtroom WITHOUT the sinister voice-over summary of their case and dramatic "he's accused of ... <terrible pun>."
Instead, they walk in silence while text scrolls across the bottom of the screen: THIS CASE WAS ADJUDICATED DURING THE WRITER'S STRIKE ...
― nabisco, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 21:26 (seventeen years ago)
Well not so much silence as "ba-dump bump .... ba-da-dump BUMP bump ... bad-da-dump bum ..." etc.
― nabisco, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 21:27 (seventeen years ago)
Srsly?
Also, is Harvey Levin still on the People's Court, or is he too busy w/sleazy TMZ?
― Nicole, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 21:28 (seventeen years ago)
He is! I don't really get it, but I admire his persona change between the two. TMZ Harvey appears to work out more.
― nabisco, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 21:33 (seventeen years ago)
Oh wait, never mind, he has nicer suits and his cool-guy TMZ haircut on People's Court now. And he looks all smug and relaxed.
― nabisco, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 21:34 (seventeen years ago)
OKAY i knew i knew that guy from somewhere
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 February 2008 21:35 (seventeen years ago)
He just made a Zsa Zsa Gabor joke. You'd think Mr. TMZ would have something a bit more ... current.
― nabisco, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 21:52 (seventeen years ago)
he's been acting way gayer on the peep's court since alec baldwin outed him as super gay.
― chaki, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 23:53 (seventeen years ago)
Bill Simmons this week:
Type No. 5: The "Watch Me Sit Out This Entire Season, I Will Absolutely Bite My Nose To Spite My Face!" HoldoutUsually a disaster, with two exceptions: Gus Williams (1980) and Sean Gilbert (1997) signed for significantly bigger deals than they passed up the previous year. Gus came back as good as ever, although I can't condone any situation that robbed us of one year of Gus' prime. (Loved that guy.) Gilbert was never as effective, no surprise because when players skip a year in their primes -- especially in football -- it's nearly impossible to shake off that rust.(Important note: This is the same reason why the 2007 writer's strike in Hollywood was so dumb at the time and seems 10 times dumber now. Walking away from guaranteed salaries for eight months just to get a better deal on Internet royalties? I dare any writing winner at this month's Emmys to make a joke about how much they've enjoyed spending their millions in Internet royalties these last two years. The room will go dead silent.)
Usually a disaster, with two exceptions: Gus Williams (1980) and Sean Gilbert (1997) signed for significantly bigger deals than they passed up the previous year. Gus came back as good as ever, although I can't condone any situation that robbed us of one year of Gus' prime. (Loved that guy.) Gilbert was never as effective, no surprise because when players skip a year in their primes -- especially in football -- it's nearly impossible to shake off that rust.
(Important note: This is the same reason why the 2007 writer's strike in Hollywood was so dumb at the time and seems 10 times dumber now. Walking away from guaranteed salaries for eight months just to get a better deal on Internet royalties? I dare any writing winner at this month's Emmys to make a joke about how much they've enjoyed spending their millions in Internet royalties these last two years. The room will go dead silent.)
Is this true? Has there been fundamentally no impact yet from the new deal? Just curious.
― Mordy, Friday, 13 August 2010 21:34 (fifteen years ago)
(Def not true that the 2007 strike destroyed television -- I feel like TV has been much fresher since that strike, except for network dramas which were arguable not that strong to begin with.)
i think i'm in the minority in believing bill simmons to be a tedious dipshit but the strike was weird and career-affecting to a couple people i know who had projects sunk by the strike.
― ('_') (omar little), Sunday, 15 August 2010 00:54 (fifteen years ago)