girls girls hate when u think theyre hot / girls girls love when u think theyre hot

Their attractive friends/their not so attractive friends.

that basically covers it, dunnit

Great thread!

in the three-name division:
Jennifer Love Hewitt/Rachael Leigh Cook

hahaha - i know so many "sensitive" dudes who are all, "sigh... cate blanchett is so beautiful." i'd LOVE it if one of them admitted to mariah carey lust.

ha lauren otm.

Albeit with a disclaimer, my husband recently admitted he thinks that Mariah Carey has a really hot body. I haven't stopped teasing him. Not that I don't think she does but c'mon it's Mimi.

http://www.listafterlist.com/Portals/0/lists/jessica-alba-749754.jpg / http://www.101lifestyle.com/images/celebs/julianne_moore/julianne_moore28.jpg

anyone from the Hills / Tina Fey

hahaha - i know so many "sensitive" dudes who are all, "sigh... cate blanchett is so beautiful." i'd LOVE it if one of them admitted to mariah carey lust.

-- lauren, Monday, 14 January 2008 11:27 (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Skank. Seriously revolting. Blanchett's delicious.

Any porn star/Dita Von Teese

keira knightley owns the first category, really.

Heidi Klum/Padma Lakshmi

I really hate it when I voice distaste at someone repellent like Mariah Carey and some male wit says 'oh but I bet you'd do her.'

because they got you there?

Zooey Deschanel/Clara Bow (rip)

their moms/their moms

their sisterses/their moms

their moms/their sistereses

Beth Ditto/Beth Ditto

their moms/their moms

-- Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Sunday, January 13, 2008 7:19 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

boys, take note: there is a difference between "your mom is pretty" and "i'd like to fuck your mom."

my wife says Heidi Klum and Padma Lakshmi should be reversed, as Padma is "hot but kind of a ho-bag."

she also nominates Eva Longoria/Kate Winslet

skinny/not skinny

^^^

^^^^^^^ yes. ha - xpost.

someone not like them / someone quite like them

overly skinny/normal
overly busty/normal

trying to imagine who the ultimate too-skinny/too-busty woman might be

dirrrty nurse/naughty librarian

strippers/they ugly friend

jenna jameson/jenna haze

I've found that they generally hate you if you think anyone is hot.

10's/6's

ellen pompeo/sandra oh
katherine heigl/kate walsh

Marissa/Summer

Joey/Jen

Christina Ricci/Winona Ryder

i think we have found the limit of this system with that last one

jake gyllenhaal / maggie gyllenhaal

maggie gyllenhaal / naomi foner

maggie g/zooey d

or is it

zooey d/maggie g?

zooey d / emily d / caleb d

god, i'm repelled by most of these on the "love" side

but, i don't really care who a dude jerks it to

i mean "clara bow"??? jesus, "oh, i am so excited that my BF jerks it to the image of some silent film actress with indie hair", fuck's sake

that one...

that one does bug me, a little!

your ex/their ex

maybe not like hot hot, for the second one.

yeah, i'd love a dude who dates girls he is not attracted to.

???

jenna jameson/jenna haze

-- milo z, Monday, January 14, 2008 2:14 AM

?????!

anyone named jessica / kate winslett

gf sez

catherine zeta-jones/joan cusack

"you know what honey, my last girlfriend was a fucking dime" vs "i saw that picture of you and your ex. seemed like a handsome dude, shame he was such a prick."

xps

look it doesn't really work, i was trying to come up with something with a little symmetry

get off my back, ok

xtina/cat power

oh i'd reverse that one

nancy reagan/barbara bush

cameron diaz/drew barrymore

emma watson/emma thompson

estie buttez/ned raggett

jenna bush/barbara bush (younger)

jenna jameson/jenna haze

-- milo z, Monday, January 14, 2008 2:14 AM

the most off-tm thing ever said on ilx?

"you know what honey, my last girlfriend was a fucking dime"

yes, this makes me want to kill

I don't even know what it could mean.

She was slender? She was shiny? She had FDR on her stomach?

a dime = a 10

girls who have a defferent style than they do/girls who have exactly the same style they do

Angelina Jolie / Angelina Jolie

Depending entirely on who you're talking to. It's either "ugh homewrecker" or "if I had to have sex with another woman it'd be her."

holding either one of those opinions is dealbreaker!

ugh homewrecker / if I had to have sex with another woman it'd be her

a broken deal u_u

i would be scared to have sex with angelina, she looks like a preying mantis

a waxen insect

sharp corners

she used to be less angular

girls with large breasts/girls with big butts

blondes / not blondes

Halle Berry/Salma Hayek

honestly i don't care which celebrity ladies boys think are hot, that seems pretty pointless.

just pls no talk about your exes physical attributes unless it is to say "obviously they were much less attractive than you, sexing them was a bothersome chore"

Vanessa Minnillo / Vanessa Redgrave

salma hayek in from dusk til dawn/salma hayek in frida

y'all date insane women

"obviously they were much less attractive than you, sexing them was a bothersome chore"

funny when this turns out not to be true.

this is why lying is important in life.

xp yes

Jessica Simpson/Ashlee Simpson

ugly exes / fat exes

it doesn't have to be TRUE

all other girls/no other girls

exes of any kind/an object

bacon/ham

you know a girl named bacon?

i mean ham, sure

Jessica Simpson/Ashlee Simpson

-- HI DERE, Monday, January 14, 2008 6:00 PM

i almost said this, then remembered that AS is blonde now. DQ'd.

Jessica Alba/Jessica Biehl

girls that you don't know/girls that you know

potayto/potahto

marina sirtis / gates mcfadden

wtf that's even more fucked up than "bacon/ham"

i think most girls would be creeped out if you admitted attraction to gates mcfadden ie their mom.

phoebe cates/molly ringwald

Jessica Simpson/Ashlee Simpson

-- HI DERE, Monday, January 14, 2008 6:00 PM

i almost said this, then remembered that AS is blonde now. DQ'd.

Yeah, she is but she also has a completely different face! I would think the plastic surgery would make her DQ'd sooner than the dye job.

rogue/storm

chicks in local bands/chicks in famous bands

norah ephron / delia ephron

I would think the plastic surgery would make her DQ'd sooner than the dye job.

Dairy Queened?

^ damn skippy

if my boyfriend tried to tell me that he thinks molly ringwald is hot, i'd be so grossed out.

really we just need a list of who it's ok to say is hot

what if he told you he thought anthony michael hall was hot?

in a way i'd prefer that to ringwald lust.

Kevin Spacey/John Travolta

dan raggett / ned perry

right hand/left hand

fake luna/real luna

girls they have met/girls they haven't met

Uma Thurman/Daryl Hannah

my wife refers to any celebrity woman I find attractive as "one of your whores"

sometimes she calls them, 'that whore you like'

lol gf calls any woman she disapproves of "whore" (in jest)

lol

xp

hooker with a heart of gold/hooker without a heart of gold

"jest"

i'm going to start using "that whore you like"

don't use her up

to be fair, most of the celebrity women I find attractive could probably be classified in this manner

hos/harlots

the word "harlot" just has this nice ring to it.

17 year olds/milfs

Goldie Hawn/Helen Mirren

Melanie Griffith/Meg Ryan

17 year olds/milfs

oooh, good one!

not a single one of HI DERE's make sense

except obv ham/bacon

younger girls/older girls ?

my wife would have good cause to hate me if I found melanie griffith hot. I would even hate myself

actual conversation that took place between me and dude i was sort of recently dating:

me: yeah, I don't get attraction to teenage girls. I think mainly it's because guys want to feel young and important again...
dude: dude, you know why guys like teenage girls so much?
me: why?
dude: because they are so fucking HOT!!! that's why!
me: ....

Clearly the deeply thoughtful type.

looooool

due otm

molly ringwald/ally sheedy

Untrue. Past a certain age, plenty of women have bothered developing enough life-competence that your attraction to crazy homeless-looking goth chicks and/or shrine to 90s Cat Power and/or love of flighty chicks who wear costumes and don't make sense becomes ANNOYING

Nabisco guarantees himself the over-23 vote.

Anne Heche/Portia di Rossi

backwards again

i think.

this thread got confusing

Emma Frost/Jean Grey

ok that's a good one

Japanese girls/Jewish girls

tits/ass

i already said that

more politely

The model here is the Ally Sheedy in The Breakfast Club who spends the whole time reading a good book and making small talk, and then when Molly offers the makeover says "oh, that's sweet of you, but I'm not an idiot, I do know how to put on makeup and wear normal clothes and stuff."

Also somewhere around the middle she'd be like "guys, it's just a few hours, can we just finish this off and go home, rather than getting into a whole bunch of lame rebellion / teenage self-expression stuff? I'm trying to read over here."

That Ally Sheedy never makes it into The Breakfast Club, Mr Revisionist History; instead we end up with the Ally Sheedy who shakes dandruff onto pictures and menacingly eats Captain Crunch sandwiches.

nabisco's platonic over-30 ally sheedy wouldn't be in detention!

that's what I'm saying
pay attention
sheesh

but the teenage one wasn't even supposed to be in detention, she just didnt have anywhere else to go! WATCH ONE MOVIE

xposts - I think she could get there by 24, to be honest

"The model here is a hypothetical character I made up that appears nowhere within the movie."

Your rhetoric-fu is weak because it cannot be mapped onto the context of the conversation; you're playing neocon worldmaker with poor Imaginary Ally Sheedy, Law Associate.

o yah i forgot that crucial detail xps

hey wait, what's the other half of the 17 year old milfs one?

juno.jpeg

Dear Argumentative Dan, please to replace word "model" with "hypothetical ideal reconciling issues proposed in previous post," sheesh

I would like calls on how ladeez would feel about the following:

1. Dolly Parton
2. Either of the creepy-looking twins from Top Model (not both)
3. Jade from Top Model
4. Christiane Amanpour
5. Olympic snowboarders
6. Random passerby over the height of 6 feet
7. Claire Danes
8. Mandy Moore
9. Unquestionably cute girl but wearing all American Apparel
10. Passerby who is clearly a lesbian

11. New York, of I Love New York fame

i think most of those are ok? i don't watch top model though.

1. "bang 'er honey!"
2. "lol burger"
3. "FABULOUS!"
4. "mine"
5. "lol baked"
6. "TALL BITCH"
7. "who replaced her head with a pug's"
8. "TALL BITCH you can fuk"
9. "dipshit"
10. "saved for sis"
11. "FLEA DIP AND INSTANT OSTRACIZATION"

Claire Danes/Serena Altschul

random passerby over 6 ft is way more acceptable than random passerby under 5 ft

re: Dolly - yeah I'm thinking she's one of the few busty blondes most girls would be cool with

I suspect the most points you can get is finding a butchish lesbian hot and then getting along with her in a cool friendly way, since this basically screams "I have an appreciation of the beauty of people who do not fit conventional beauty and gender-role standards and who I have no chance or interest or intention in ever touching"

Nabisco that is so ridiculously OFFtm I don't know where to begin. Finding butchish lesbians hot = "u want I should grow a dick?" followed by "UGH DO YOU THINK I LOOK LIKE THAT???????" followed by kicks and dumping.

I guess I did know where to begin after all, huh.

nah, lesbian (but not butch) friends have been responsible for my last two girlfriends.

singular versus plural / "lesbian" versus pattern of "lesbians," which would, yeah, maybe have that effect? I feel like you get credit for getting on well with non-femmey (and especially attached) lesbians, as some kind of proof that you can engage well with women without any sexual dimension. (And then if you say "yeah, they're terrific, they're hot" you have found one of few ways to say that that doesn't suggest any interest in getting with anyone.)

Different dateable pool maybe, Dan? I don't look like a very butch anything but I think of myself as much more utilitarian than ornamental so the situation N suggests is sometimes a reassuring one.

We're maybe drifting off into a different crux that's more like "girls girlFRIENDS love/hate when you think they're hot":

girls where saying they're hot sounds like you want to do them / girls where saying they're hot sounds like you're just happy for them that they get to be hot

haha Jordan given where we live lesbian friends are responsible for EVERYTHING!

1. Dolly Parton
8. Mandy Moore

<3 <3 <3

ANTM Jade is one of the most entertainingly stupid human beings on the planet.

lol

xp

"because elephants are in the dinosaur family"

Although I never liked how the show would use subtitles to note her dumb statements, like you could make fun of her for being dumb even if you didn't get it either.

1. Dolly Parton
2. Either of the creepy-looking twins from Top Model (not both)
3. Jade from Top Model
4. Christiane Amanpour
5. Olympic snowboarders
6. Random passerby over the height of 6 feet
7. Claire Danes
8. Mandy Moore
9. Unquestionably cute girl but wearing all American Apparel
10. Passerby who is clearly a lesbian

would **** 6/10

followed by "UGH DO YOU THINK I LOOK LIKE THAT???????"

Is it inconceivable for guys to find different kinds of women attractive? I'd imagine that for some women, the notion that your boyfriend/husband's attraction to you is dependent solely on its conformity to a narrow "type" he has would more disheartening.

EDIT: ...would BE more disheartening.

Here is a tip: in my experience, women in happy relationships couldn't give two shits about the depth of their partner's span of attraction as long as it includes her at its pinnacle.

threadlock

I think you're ultimately right, Dan, I just think that "UGH YOU THINK I LOOK LIKE THAT?" is a weird jump to make.

"span of attraction" is a weird euphemism for "cock"

"You are attracted to that manly woman" + "You are attracted to me" = "There is a decent chance you think, by my own standards, I'm manly-looking" * "I don't want to be manly-looking!" ---> "YOU ASSHOLE"

xpost: I am nothing if not poetic.

i am personally more threatened by more feminine-looking women than more masculine ones. but i guess we all have our own insecurities. i get the most upset when guys dig on really small/short girls, girls in distress, that kind of thing. being attracted to tough ladiez is aok.

lol womens is crazy am i rite guys

it is true ;_;

womens be crazy but we loves you and hey we are crazees too we all crazees

oh what like short girls can't be tough, huh

http://www.nightmarefactory.com/FW1158.jpg

they just look all silly and cute when they try

YOU TAKE THAT BACK, LABS.

j/k

laurelz you are not short

oh what like short girls can't be tough, huh

-- Jordan, Monday, January 14, 2008 4:58 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Kelly Kapoor trash talking to thread.

i thought of you when i saw that episode

nothing against the short girls themselves, i just try to avoid guys who fetishize them and their so-called "smaller vaginas"

aw, thanks, Jordan!

whoa i doubt the validity of these short girl-small vagina claims. also, ew.

let the record show that bell labs claimed that short girls have smaller vaginas, not any dude i have met.

at least they never said it out loud.

"Lookit her, I bet sh'e packin' a thimble!"

"Girls in distress" sounds like a lot of work.

thimblework, amirite?

i have heard it from a couple of dudes, including 2 ilxors. it is now burned into the back of my mind, unfortunately

I am almost certain enough to bet money that the exact phrase "smaller vaginas" was not used.

Dear Bell: it might help to think about the reasons a guy would be super-concerned about finding particularly small vaginas

you're thinking of "sideways" vaginas

oh no!

xp

P.S. It is not true anyway, unless maybe we're talking about midgets, I can't speak to that

super-concerned about finding particularly small vaginas

^^^good song title

I prefer taller women because their naturally voluminous vaginas make cocaine trafficking easier

here is excerpt from chat:

me: well, tall guys always either like really tall girls or midgets. it sucks being a girl of average height
12:35 PM the under 5'2" bitches walk away with all the dueds
DUED: their vaginas are wonderlands

John Mayer in being a douche shocker

haha

yes but name me one girl whose vagina is NOT a wonderland

I just can't imagine "presumed size of vagina" being that far up there in the list of things that are important when scoping people out.

(I wonder, though, if Bell is equally annoyed by women who look for partners who are taller than them.)

Curt1s: the chick from "Species"

I mean, even her own chat log says "TALL GUYS always prefer."

http://www.horrorphile.net/images/teeth-movie-poster.jpg

i am a guy of average height and i usually date girls of average height. average is hot.

"why do guys who are taller than me care so much about height"

i have been with some little chicks with meat curtains

acknowledging height = caring about height?

NO MORE DISCUSS

can someone draw a diagram for chaki?

ew chaki

i mean the whole area was large, n. everything involved with the area was large.

i am sick of being average. SOMEONE FETISHIZE MY DEMOGRAPHIC FOR ONCE, JEEZ.

   0

  /|\

   | 

 /VVV\

-     -

Notice how Chaki is very subtly bragging about his wang there

xpost - You don't seem much average, bell

I don't know what bell labs looks like but she seems like a cool and certainly not average chick!

did you get all the compliments you were fishing for yet, bell?

Oh but Roxy, my point was that there's a whole lot of women (average height and below) who wouldn't even begin to think about anyone shorter than them -- not even consciously rule it out, but just never have it occur to them. It's common to the point of being taken for granted, but there's no sense in which it's any more logical or non-superficial than any number of things guys might like.

(I mean, you can ask some women about dating shorter men and they won't even have a coherent response, it'll just be something along the lines of "but that would just be ... wrong!" or "but you wouldn't want to be looking DOWN to kiss him" or whatever -- i.e., phrases that make me glad I made it to at least mostly averageish height, cause those 5'3" dudes get whispered about: "he's okay, I guess, but he's (psst) short!")

nabisco otm

;_;

http://www.photochopz.com/forum/images/smilies/hitit.gif

aw

bigotry against short dudes is a wonderful thing

im pretty short and i get tall girls. thanks for asking, everyone.

yeah, but yr a rock star

yah like a fat dave navarro or large prince.

dudes who are willing to express themselves on stage generally do pretty well

http://www.clevelandseniors.com/images/asian-indian/dennis-kucinich-and-wife.jpg

w/ tall girls u get a face ful of titty (nb i am 6'2"...)

kucinich is a hero to short doofs and goobs everywhere.

nah, he's no hero to me

It seems like actually tall girls go either way -- either they don't bother having a very limiting "taller than me" standard or they are exactly that selective (which tends to accompany being really good looking)

Sorry if I was all UNION, UNION there, it's just a rant I go off on ever since knowing these girls in Chicago who despite being very attractive were CONSTANTLY going (to paraphrase) WHAAA, it's so unfair, guys don't like me because I'm tall/short/brunette/small-breasted/whatever, but then if you said "what about that guy" they'd say eww, but that guy is short/bald/bad-dresser/whatever. I once got so annoyed by one of them whining to me about how nobody wanted to sleep with her that I did an incredibly dicky thing and went around the bar pointing at her and asking random guys if they wanted to get with her.

(Note that her whining about nobody wanting to sleep with her was in no way an attempt to get me to offer, which was obviously part of what was so annoying about it.)

Point being I am forever amused by "it's so unfair, people who meet my superficial standards have superficial standards of their own"

sort of an agressive wingman tactic, no?

WHAAA, it's so unfair, guys don't like me because I'm tall/short/brunette/small-breasted/whatever, but then if you said "what about that guy" they'd say eww, but that guy is short/bald/bad-dresser/whatever

this is like reverse costanza

"According to urbandictionary.com, a Reverse Constanza is a sex act involving a funnel, a half-pound of lean pastrami, and a donkey"

my point was that there's a whole lot of women (average height and below) who wouldn't even begin to think about anyone shorter than them -- not even consciously rule it out, but just never have it occur to them.

I am tall and have only really dated a "short" guy once but have found that it's more often because shorter guys aren't comfortable dating taller women then vice versa. I think we're conditioned to assume that guys should be the taller one so when the reverse happens, it can be uncomfortable. The one time I did date someone who was legitimately short (5'3" or around there) he was really consumed and bothered by the height difference and immediately blamed that as the reason I broke up with him when in actuality I probably broke up with him because of his insecurities more than anything else.

one of my roommates in college was really short and dating (and eventually married) a tall, pretty girl. i remember he would always pick her up and wrestle and stuff to assert his masculinity.

"stuff"

for me: girls who have no common attributes with me (eg. they're tall, leggy, narrow-hipped, blonde, blue-eyed)/ girls who have many common attributes (eg. big hips, short, brown-eyed, dark-haired)

obv guys have a wide span of attraction, but my instinctive insecurities pay no heed to this rationale. and in the reverse, i will normally find guys attractive who look like the person i'm currently dating.

i dont give a shit who my fella thinks is hot as long as he aint a pedo.

actually the only person who men fetishize who annoys the shit out of me is aubrey hepburn. everyone else - go nuts.

okiay i retard, meant AUDREY hepburn duh

yeah the audrey hepburn thing is annoying

god, right? I don't even get her.

an anorexic baby

http://www.photochopz.com/forum/images/smilies/hitit.gif

i'd hit it... across the face with a shovel! WHOOP WHOOP!

http://www.apparelyzed.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mfr_lol.gif

Ha, the above is actually making me suspect dudes are going around saying they find Hepburn hot to impress chicks. I don't think I've ever met a guy who seemed into Hepburn in that way at all. As in, like, having any inclination to touch her. (Then, obviously, not now.) I have met about 10 too many girls who seem enthusiastic about the idea of being Audrey-as-Holly, but I think we're probably all together on that one.

But who knows, there might be some kind of really jacked up locker room where guys are standing around going "omg, have you seen Roman Holiday? Man, I wanna smash that, just grab onto those big collarbones and ... damn, that's what I call elegant"

They're called Grandpas.

I can think of few faster ways to get dumped than admitting to lusting over a woman who's been dead for several decades.

what is "girls girls love" and "girls girls hate" ?

Girls that girls hate you for thinking are hot / Girls that girls love you for thinking are hot.

Girls love AHepburn, yes.
Girls seem to love PoshSpice.

I'm on safe ground if I were to mention anyone tall, brown haired, reasonably slim, etc at home.

I'm not much into short blonde big busted girls so it's proba just as well.

ahhhh, took a while but finally got it.

xp

Not to be nitpicky but "several?"

Yeah, I thought that but let it pass: Date of Death:20 January 1993, Tolochenaz, Switzerland. (abdominal cancer)

that's not hot at all

actually the only person who men fetishize who annoys the shit out of me is audrey hepburn

Who are these men? Are they gay?

wtf?!

Sorry, I would have checked but couldn't be bothered Googling 'Audrey Hepburn death' at work. But in all honesty dead is dead as far as this argument goes.

back to nabisco's height difference issue. i think this is fairly straightforward. *sexism alert* girls basically want someone taller/bigger than them because they want their dude to be the analog of daddy who makes them feel safe. this is why it just feels wrong to be involved with a dude who's smaller than them, or even the same size (or maybe they don't want to have the appearance of having a different role relationship). to be involved with them, the girl would have to perform a post-mod mind trick and imagine them into a different physical presence. which pretty much isn't gonna happen. this isn't true of lots of girls, of course. but maybe those girls' daddies aren't bigger than them, or weren't protective figures e.g. because absent through divorce or otherwise, or they're just more self-reliant, etc.

many dudes on the other hand want to be daddy, and maybe get off on filling the role (hence, ahem, "who's your daddy?" which isn't to say that girls don't get off on it either). or at least, they accept that it's typically expected of them, or, like the girl, are uncomfortable taking a different role (or at least having the appearance of doing so). to the extent guys want to score a tall girl, it may be to show that they can win on long odds. of course, some (many?) guys might actually, similar to girls, want their partner to be a protective mommy figure, but there's a decent chance this isn't what their intended partner wants, or may be awkward in one way or another. perhaps same height/same height is a compromise, or a physical analog for equality of roles.

re hepburn, i think there are different types of guys who 'fetishize' (ie like) her, because she's played more than one type of role. she's played 'helpless' (exciting for some) and she's played 'in charge/unpredictable' (exciting for others). of course, some/many guys might just like her in the 'charming' way, rather than the 'we wants ta fuck' way. (which take is more adolescent, btw?) girls who like guys for liking her might like that guys' appreciate her characters (or her character), i.e. they like that the guy is sympatico with them in that regard. some/many girls who hate guys for liking her may do so in no small part because they have a problem with their relative body sizes. (oh no!)

excellent *sexism alert* there, gabb.

it's not sexist if it's acceptable for girls to want a daddy figure, but not for guys to want a mommy figure, of course

i doubt any of this applies to britishes. war babies & c.

lol the only people ive met who are into audrey hepburn are chicks with a 40s glamor fetish who are usually emotionally stunted and into theater or whatever so its weird to me that you girls have met so many dudes who do that!!!

For the record, the only guy I've ever known who was really into A Hepburn was gay.

Ooooh, I thought of someone that falls into the girls ENBB hates when you think they're hot category = Kirsten Dunst. She is just not pretty and it bugs me to no end that a lot of guys I know think she's hot (although does look ok with the red hair in SM) because I'm sure it goes down to some MJ/comic book thing rather than her actual looks.

You don't have to be pretty to be hot

OK, fair point but I don't think she's really "hot" either.

hateable cuz she's rail-thin vs hateable cuz she's a moron

omg kirsten dunst rawr

Eh, I couldn't really care less about her weight I just think there is something kind of gross and boring about her, I guess.

oops - xpost

I went off Kirsten Dunst altogether when someone pointed out she looks like Billy Corgan with hair and breasts.

hateable cuz she has greasy, unkempt hair?

That's all that Johnny Borrell's fault

omg stop ruining kirsten dunst!

xposts

ie, she spends no time on herself and guys still fall all over her?

But who knows, there might be some kind of really jacked up locker room where guys are standing around going "omg, have you seen Roman Holiday? Man, I wanna smash that, just grab onto those big collarbones and ... damn, that's what I call elegant"

haha

I went off Kirsten Dunst altogether when someone pointed out she looks like Billy Corgan with hair and breasts.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA. She does!!

Gab - just hateable because I can't see the appeal - at all.

lol. tho, and i could be imagining this, i think i may have actually heard discussion of a.h. in r.h. among straight dudes in a locker room. they were old, tho.

Old and gay?

i just googled kirsten dunst and found photoshopped porn pic of a threeway w/her jennifer love heweitt and britney spears - which is totes trifecta of girls girls hate when u think theyre hot - also cause its photoshopped none is making sex face all is making smile for camera face which is pretty great in its own way

http://theblemish.com/images/2007/04/kirsten-dunst-ross.jpg

What? That picture pretty much proves my point!

I just googled her to make sure she does have breasts before replying (again) to MDC's statement about her resemblance to Billy Corgan. In case anyone was wondering - she does.

BTW - I know I'm being really harsh on her here, I don't think she's ugly or anything just def not anything special.

i doubt any of this applies to britishes. war babies & c.

-- gabbneb, Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:04 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

also british men are all gay

They love Audrey Hepburn

and the queen

http://www.librarising.com/astrology/celebs/images2/KL/kirstendunst2.jpg

herro dere!

Better. I think she looks best w/ red hair.

Spidey hangin' upside down just so he can look down the front of Bill Corgan's dress and check out his boobs

i wish it was cool to post fake porn of kirsten dunst on ilx :(

also british men are all gay

well yes, that too. i think y'all might not go for all this mummy/daddy shit, tho.

i think we go for it less (recalling way old article i read about "mom-ism") but i think dom passantino is the expert on english gals with daddy issues.

and his size is...

I'm with Jaymc and Dan and Mandee here: I don't think it should matter who your partner finds hot (unless it's a kid or someone morbidly anorexic), if you know that he/she finds you attractive too. I've never had a specific type of person I'd find especially hot, so I don't think saying someone who's not like my partner is hot automatically means I don't find her hot.

One good think about dating a bisexual girl is, if you're a bisexual guy, you can drool over the same people. Or argue whether or not someone is hot.

I was just thinking this thread needed a Tuomas post.

it's not about "I don't think it should" though; if it pisses someone off, it pisses them off.

xpost

and a pissing-in-the-wind response to one.

i guess ive been hanging out with too many foppish indie types who swoon over audrey hep's "elegant neck"

Yeah, I know if something pisses someone off, it's probably best not to say it. It's just that personally I don't quite understand this sort of thing. Like, the previous girl I dated told me, after we broke up, that one good thing about me was that I wasn't jealous of her male friends (most of her friends were guys). I was kinda surprised, because before she told me this, the idea that I should be jealous of her friends, or that she might think I'm jealous of them, hadn't even crossed my mind. But apparently she'd had that problem with other guys she'd dated. Sometimes I just don't get people.

feeling's mutual

Tuomas, that might have been code for "lol I bang my guy friends, you're still in there"

When I was in high school my best friend was this girl, and all of her boyfriends were jealous of me. Once at a party one of them even ran to a room where I was having sex with a girl, because he thought I was there sexing with her! You'd think one would have enough trust in his girlfriend not to think she's cheating him with her bloody best friend?!

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Huh.

Dan, it was even more confusing, because all of her male friends I met were either gay or spoken for (or both).

im so proud of this thread

I went off Kirsten Dunst altogether when someone pointed out she looks like Billy Corgan with hair and breasts.

-- Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 January 2008 13:30

matt dc you evil, EVIL man.

(That was about the girl I dated, not my high school friend.)

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Once at a party one of them even ran to a room where I was having sex with a girl, because he thought I was there sexing with her!

Those Christening Parties can get a little out of hand sometimes

???

"masturbating in front of a baby" thread ref

oh good.

Okay, maybe that was kinda weirdly worded. The story is as follows: I was at a house party, and at some point I went upstairs to have sex with this girl I was fooling around with at the moment. My best friend and her current boyfriend were also there. At some point the boyfriend couldn't find her anymore (it was a big house), because she'd gone down to the basement to puff some weed. Then he heard someone mention that I was upstairs doing it with some girl. He thought the girl in question was my friend, i.e. his girlfriend. He then ran into the room we were in, shouting "What the hell is going on in here?!". Then he looked at the girl I was with, realized she was someone else altogether, became totally embarrassed, muttered "Sorry...", and went away.

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Then he heard someone mention that I was upstairs doing it with some girl.

What, you mean he didn't roll his eyes and go, "What? Again?"

kirsten dunst has never worn a bra, ever

I've never had a specific type of person I'd find especially hot,

other than finns, you mean?

I've dated a German girl and and Icelandic girl too!

lol

The three-way with fake faces is fucking hysterical. I highly recommend you all GIS it at some point when you will not get in trouble.

I didn't even need to expand the picture from the results to laugh my head off.

I think I would pick Carey over Blanchett. Blanchett has never been on Cribs.

Not that I have a choice/chance.

tori amos/gillian anderson

Cameron Diaz/Rachel Weisz

Sienna Miller/Kate Winslett

Dunst has that problem for me where she makes me think of Dutch people inbreeding or something

(though a quick unsuccessful google to figure out what kind of name "Dunst" is turns up that her parents are named Klaus and Inez, which suggests the exact opposite)

I hereby disavow some/many of the places gabbneb has taken my short/tall discussion. I mean, we could psychoanalyze all day and come up with lots of complicated interconnecting reasons about why, but the bottom line is just this basic common idea that the male part of a hetero couple should be taller, or at least shouldn't be a whole bunch shorter

(there is a whole other discussion to be had re: people who really want partners to conform to whatever commonplace young notion they had of what their partner would be like VS. people who don't really care about that, or maybe even care in the opposite direction)

I thought of something that seemed relevant to the thread, but kind of backwards! Once I was describing the bourne identity to a friend and mentioned that Franke Potente was in it (love!) and he was like, "oh, that ugly chick from Run Lola Run?" and I was immediately like, "SHE IS NOT UGLY I HATE BOYS!!!" and was mad at him for days. so i guess I'm lol crazy.

I thought the title of this thread was just a lyric from a club song

I think Franke Poente is very hot but she definitely didn't look her best in Lola.

Nabisco - I'm pretty sure Dunst's parents are from Germany.

*Potente* whoops.

I hereby disavow some/many of the places gabbneb has taken my short/tall discussion

adoption of "some/many" > being off the $

lol short dudes amirite?

http://bestmessageboardever.com/uploads/monthly_03_2008/post-1974-1204750893.jpg

overweight women in 'wear underpants' shocker

girls who look like girls/girls who look like teenage boys

oh man, I would like to see some girl that look like teenage boys. short lesbian/anime haircuts. garglegarglegargle (to the pretty ones)

um

good times

garglegarglegargle (to the pretty ones)

Was that a Mariah song or something?

Maybe the Manics.