WHEN U BEDTIME

There is like 3-4 hour gap between crawl under sheets and actual Land of Nod, but just lately. It is distressing bcz I have not done this ruminating tossing for years & unlike most, I don't much care for it.

Are you:

- Stressed about something
- consuming too muc coffee just prior to getting into bed
- smoking multiple cigarettes just prior to going to bed
- getting UP later in the morning
- trying sleep in your chastity belt
- using "crawl under sheets" to mean "smoking a giant rock"
- being subjected to too much light/noise
- being subjected to too little noise, a la My Cousin Vinny
- sleeping with someone new
- not sleeping with someone new

If any of these are the case, you may have identified your problem.

I've been writhing and contorting too, lately. Usually in bed by 10:00 and asleep between 11:45 and 1:00. Sux!

No. Last night it was me imagining a good color for the roof of my car, thinking about how to improve this one data file of mine, thinking about hot wings, and other such dumb dumb shit.

(Still want some hot wings.)

xp

Last night I was relieved when I saw the clock said 2:55 a.m. bcz I thought it was 5. The night before the sun started rising right as I was about to sleep.

10-11, usually closer to 10.

I've gotten terrible insomnia in the past few months. Got prescribed pills for it that don't really seem to work much.

sleeping pills are all bullshit

I sleep like a rock. I sleep better than a baby.

guys does counting sheep work?

ambien is ok but it doesn't always work. lately the only thing that works is reading the mists of avalon which i am determined to finish and make my "worst book i have i've read all the way to the end."

kind of on the hunger is the best sauce tip, like I keep going on about how much I loved breakfast at lackland AFB, I think that was probably also some of the best sleep I've ever gotten

scratchy gray blankets, lumpy mattress, GI sheets and all

9-12

The only thing that sometimes helps if I can't fall asleep repeating some kind of musical phrase in my head, usually like a hypnotic two chord thing. The trombone part to "Fables of Faubus" is a standby.

1-2 usually, 2-3 lately

late weeknights are usually a bad omen for me. i only stay up late when i'm depressed. but yeah, anticipating an awesome breakfast is usually a big motivator.

I try to get to bed between midnight and 1 a.m.

9-10 in theory but 10-11 in reality.

between 12 and 1, and then i fall asleep within 2 minutes. i can function on 6 hours sleep

i can function on 2 hours sleep as i am proving right now by functioning

i put after 3, but about half the time it's between 2-3. i can get by on not much sleep, although more than two 4-hour nights in a row will sort of zombify me. but i prefer a little zombification to going to bed too early. if i'm not totally drained when i go to bed, i end up lying there and thinking too much about one thing or another, and then i don't get sleep anyway. so i just wait to go to bed until i'm all droopy-eyed.

i only stay up late when i'm depressed.

god i know. it's when you're better off unconscious that you stay up all night torturing yourself.

lol bllabz u ain't functionin u just postin to ILE

you put the fun in function

i got a lot done at work today actually!

if i'm not totally drained when i go to bed, i end up lying there and thinking too much about one thing or another, and then i don't get sleep anyway. so i just wait to go to bed until i'm all droopy-eyed.

^ yea this

between 10:30 and 12:00 but i should do earlier as elisabeth wakes up at circa 3 for a night time feed. you guys should appreciate uninterrupted sleep. you don't know how lucky you are.
pple need about 8hrs. now i get about six in total.
bell you are right, i did fine as well. woje up everg two hrs for a feeding and functioned fine.

you put the fun in function

What about the unction?

you don't know how lucky you are.

luck has nothin' to do with it. :>

Ambien makes me have v fun hallucinations for about 20 minutes! But that's it.

it works a lot better if you have a couple drinks, i find (i haven't been drinking for the last couple of weeks and my sleep has been shitty as a result)

Between 12 and 1:30, usually. For a while a couple years ago it was routinely between 2 and 4, even when I'd have to get up at 8. I felt like shit all the time but couldn't force myself to go to bed any earlier.

Dude, your bed was only "released" at a certain time? I mean, what kept you from going to bed?

lol the Internet, usually

I keep going on about how much I loved breakfast at lackland AFB

tombot when did u live in sa town?

answer to thredd: ~1 am, but should be like 11

i've been taking melatonin--it seems to promote sleepiness or at least an adequate placebo effect.

Normally between 11 and 12 but with eastbound jetlag and no job 2AM.

I am trying to correct this with wine and liquor.

bison, i lived there for about 7 weeks at the ass end of 1999. no intent of returning.

Not having to be in the office until noon should mean that I get up early and take care of errands and work on writing through the morning hours, but mostly it means I'm up until 3 or 4.

(This is because getting to work at noon means getting home from work at 8, and it's nearly impossible to walk in the door, eat dinner, and then go to bed an hour later.)

It was going to be my bedtime then I found this old chuck berry concert on BBC four. It must be the mid 70s, he is wearing the psychedelicest shirt in existence.

I'm a student, so I have a very odd sleep pattern. I'll go from having 2 hours sleep and getting up at 7am to having 12 hours and getting up at 2pm.

turn on bbc 4 you will not be disappointed.

it's nearly impossible to walk in the door, eat dinner, and then go to bed an hour later.

aye. a big contributor to my late hours is that i get home from work between 9:30 and 10:30 most nights. added to that is that the post-11 p.m. time, when wife and kid are zzzzzz, is the only time i have to watch movies or tv, read, write, listen to music, etc., so there's a tendency to extend those hours.

Usually:
Notice I'm getting sleepy at 11:30
late chores (litterbox, dishes)
In bed by 11:30, try to read
Out like a light within 3 minutes

exhausted by 10; start to think about going to bed by 11; come up with some b.s. "project" by 12; in bed usually about 1; up again between 5 and 6:30 (thanks, 13-month-old)

Meant to say: Notice I'm getting sleepy at 11:00, not 11:30

after 3 am u_u

3 or 4 for years, then winter always-night and my broken leg turned that into 6 or 7 am over the last month. This made me miserable, so I'm trying to turn over a new leaf and go for 11:00pm. The few nights I've had of this so far have made me feel better.

i've been trying to at least get into bed by 11 for months and i think it's only happened twice and that was once over christmas vacation and once on a friday night after exhausting week - xpost to coffee thread i guess

whenever I feel like it

Go to bed 12:00 - 12:30, read for 30 - 45 minutes, pass out by 1:00 - 1:00

You guys realize you're fucking up your system if you go to bed too late, right? I always make sure I go to bed before 12. That said, this night was fucked up because of baby: She woke up at 1 for a night time feed and again at 5. I decided to get up and have a cup of tea. I'm gonna regret this but what the hell...

sooon. i need to be up by 7:30. no matter how early i go to be that will always feel inhumane.

xp Isn't "too late" relative to when you get up, though? I mean, I go to bed after midnight pretty much every night, but I don't wake up until 8, which I imagine is probably later than most 9-to-5ers.

Not needing an alarm clock is nice -- I'm able to say for sure that my perfect routine is 7.5 hrs/night and a :10 catnap midafternoon.

I should really go to bed around 11, but I usually end up being bored until 10:30, then finding like 4 hours worth of internet por... distractions.

Well, yes, Jay, but you also need to have a "consistent" pattern apparently. According to the "specialists." So it's best if you always get in at the same time (and probably get up at the same time). This way your body is able to function better.

slightly off-topic, but has anybody here ever experienced acute paranoia because of prolonged lack of sleep? i went on a business trip several years ago and between jet lag and late nite boozathons, i was only getting 2-3 hours of sleep a night and i was seriously demented after a couple of days. thankfully i didn't do anything terribly embarassing, but i think a couple of my colleagues thought i was having some sort of breakdown. freaky stuff.

OMG yes that will make you insane, and etc

my friend wants to stay awake for 72 hours and see what happens

your friend will go nuts until s/he gets to sleep again.

that doesn't even sound possible...

your friend should join the armed forces. that shit is basically required.

in navy basic they do a "battle stations" routine where you get no sleep for at least 48, and then some depending on divison performance - in the AF we had a 72 hour standup in the field exercise where we had maybe three hours of sleep if we could manage to black out amidst the constant noise outside the tent. marines and army jackasses presumably go through the same if not worse. I've never wanted a cigarette more in my life than standing guard outside that fucking stupid tent in freezing weather, holding my fake gun

means getting home from work at 8, and it's nearly impossible to walk in the door, eat dinner, and then go to bed an hour later.)

Yep - it takes me a while to process the grievances of the day and achieve some kind of relaxation. I get back at around 7.30 having set out around 12 hours earlier - modern life is paid slavery.

I really like to have a late bath and read (12.00-12.30am) and then go straight to bed.

I'm a total night owl and have a psychological block about going to bed before 1. Currently temporarily unemployed, so I've reverted to my natural sleeping pattern of 4-12 (I got up early today).

ha, tonight, about 7:30am

K8t "Dad, I can't get to sleep"
Me "well try counting sheep"
K8t "i can't, I can only count rabbits. that's the problem"
Me "well try counting rabbits instead"
K8t "oh i hadn't thought of that"

Very hard to count rabbits they keep hopping around.

Tom, if you go to bed at 7:30, how late do you get up?

Last night: Went to bed at around 11-ish, woke up at 1 am to feed Elisabeth, woke up again at around 4:30 to feed her a second time and basically stayed awake. I am now trying my very best not to crawl into bed. :-(

I generally go to bed between 12-1:00 am but that is going to have to change due to new work schedule which requires that I get up no later than 6:30. It's tough though because three nights a week I'm in class and don't get home until after 10 and I can't go right to bed. Ideally, I'd get between 8-10 hrs. a night but that pretty much never happens.

:10 catnap midafternoon 10 mins.?! Really? I love napping but mine are rarely less than 1 hr.

11-12 usually. On an average weekday I can get to sleep within 10mins. On a Sunday night, read three hours.

Whenever I've tried to count sheep, they go too fast for me.

slightly off-topic, but has anybody here ever experienced acute paranoia because of prolonged lack of sleep?

One of my friends ended up voluntarily committing himself after experiencing a psychotic break exacerbated by staying awake for close to four days.

Obv not Lemmy then. Didn't he stay up for about a WEEK?

I stayed up for 48 hours or more. I can't remember. Had no problem doing that. Also did this for a few days with a couple hours of sleep. Not that hard to do, just have to keep yourself in check. I did this because of Ten Days Off (dance festival) and had to work. So I would go out all night and then go back home to work. Everyone called me crazy.

i go to bed just before 1 and get up between 9 and 10 most weekdays. it ain't right.

work at 6 a.m. = wake up at 4:45 a.m. = go to bed embarassingly early

usually around 2

My bell curve starts around 10 and ends around 1.

I got into bed around 11 for the first time in weeks, I credit this to starting drinking at 7:30. Then I had work-related nightmares.

I'm usually in bed by midnight, unless I've been out, in which case probably closer to 1am. Last couple of weeks I've been a bit more tired than usual for some reason so I've been going to bed 10:30-11:30 but then I just do the ruminating and don't sleep anyway (not so much the tossing, I don't think my wife would like it, fnar fnar etc)

There was one inexplicable week when I was single where I would come home from work, eat a dinner, and then go to bed at 8:30. I would turn on the gas furnace in the living room and sleep on the couch. One night, I was awoken by a car accident outside my window.

I still don't get that week, but I enjoyed it.

Counting sheep has always sounded more like a way to stay AWAKE to me. Like when dozing off in a large work meeting.

esp if you imagine them yelling BAAAAAA every time

sheep are loud

you are secretly Billy Madison, aren't you

i don't remember

9-10 in theory but 10-11 in reality.

same here.

12-1, usually put on music and am out by the third song or something

depends on the day and what i was doing. last night it was 9 pm. two nights ago it was 2 am. i've been sleeping like shit lately so i'm trying to cut out my afternoon coffee even if it means hovering near a coma in my cubicle.

1 to 2 am ... don't have to be at work until noon usually

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i stay up all night, i go to sleep watching 'dragnet'.

usually about 1am, sometimes later. Get up around 7am on a weekday, and about 8am or 9am at the weekend.

my vote in this poll is no longer true

For me it depends on my shifts/hours. On average I'd say around 10-11pm, it seems to have settled again now I'm not working ridiculous night shifts (during which I'd be awake til 6am sometimes, but then sleep from then til lunchtime. It sent me completely barmy).

I couldn't get to sleep last night because I was thinking about how fruits work as adaptations for plants!!!!

I'd like it to be 9-9:30 but it's been veering more towards 10:30-11. Damn insomnia.

Am I the only sad bastard here who gets up at 5.30am to go to the gym?

^ requires that I go to bed at 9.30 most nights

a couple of the VP/management types do this
they are in pretty good shape though so i guess it's working for them
mostly though i think they are crazy

patrick bateman, stomach crunches, etc

they prob think i'm crazy b/c i do yoga. and plus they have families - it wld suck more to not get to see your kids in the evening b/c you're at teh stupid gym running nowhere
xpost

I work 2-10 now and get by easily on 4-5 hours of sleep

the problem is trying to be productive during those odd hours of the night while I'm still awake and have no idea what to do

Not casting aspersions but how does anyone manage on 4-5 hours of sleep?? If I don't get 7+ I'm useless for days.

Same here. I need 7-8 hours or I really get scatty. Oddly though, if I have too *much* sleep I'm completely zombie.

you get used to it, I think. I used to feel the same way, e.g. "Y'all CRAZY" but I have a coworker who says that's all he's needed for years, and I knew several folks from when I was in the military that swore by 4 and no more. you catch up on the weekends a bit.

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my friend wants to stay awake for 72 hours and see what happens

-- elan, Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:47 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

i should have mentioned that she's wanted to do this for at least a few years. as long as i've known her anyways. she might have done it during that time, because she often has trouble sleeping. but she's already nuts so i don't think it's a good idea and i've told her that.

I'm gonna try this one day too. I've already pretty much done the "sleeping for 72 hours" thing.

staying awake for 60 hours is about all I've pulled off, I think? it's a good way to mess up everything for yourself. why would you want to do something to yourself that they use to interrogate gitmo detainees? "Hey guys, let's go waterboarding!!"

Suprising amount of after 3am bedtimes. We got a lot of shiftworkers on here, or do college peeps just never go to class and stay up all night?

what a stupid question

Yeah as soon as I hit submit I thought "wait, duhh"

well also if we could sleep properly we wouldn't all be here voting in my crazy polls now would we

Between 12 AM & 1 AM 43
Between 11 PM & 12 AM 32

this kind goes along with most people saying 9 to 5 on the shift poll though

an easy way to pull off the sleep deprivation expeiment is, obviously, meth. $25 worth will keep you up for 36 hours if you don't have a tolerance. and yes shit gets a little nuts but it's fun.

my friend wants to stay awake for 72 hours and see what happens

-- elan, Thursday, January 17, 2008 1:47 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Link

can i just say this is a bad idea? 72 is bad for you, but make sure it doesn't creep much further or the hallucinations'll kick in.

I've been on some medicine lately that makes me see those wrinkles in time in my periphreals, and I had forgotten how cool those things are.

I probably won't do this until I'm like 60, 70 years old.

the hallucinations rock, i assure you. for me it was all about the slow 'n' fast movement.

METH??!!!!!!!

isn't it scary?

i don't really even know what meth is. i've just heard that it is addictive. and that it makes ur face ugly. what does it do??

Anyone HATE the phrase "morning person," especially when someone says, "I'm not a morning person"? I'm more functional at 7 am than at 11 pm, thanks.

i've tried it twice and, no. if you get strung out on it you see 'meth monsters' or 'shadow people' -- but on yr first trip you'll just get an amusing sense of dissasociation and handle-able hallucination xp

for real ur GAY and haven't done meth??

xxp ^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS. SUCH AN ANNOYING COMMENT.

meth is the most fucked up thing

never! it was never offered to me!

Gin fucks me more than meth ever will.

Anyone HATE the phrase "morning person," especially when someone says, "I'm not a morning person"? I'm more functional at 7 am than at 11 pm, thanks.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 30 January 2008 03:31 (49 minutes ago) Link

That would make you a morning person, then?

for about six years now, my average sleeping time has been around between 3-5 am. I've tried correcting my rhythm many, many times to just around midnight or earlier and it's never worked. So now I'm content with getting about 4 hours sleep per night, and then 2 hour naps after work/uni, and 6 hrs a nite on weekends. It's a system that's worked for a while.