Tottenham won't ever put 4 past Arsenal: A rolling Carling Cup thread

lol 5 now

now that is how jenas can play every week.

well done that lad.

I think it might be time to seriously consider whether Harry Redknapp is actually God.

I think its more that Diego Cavalieri is the devil.

Nerys Hughes, Joey Boswell etc etc

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Benitez is the antiwenger.

Sky kindly pointing out that Liverpool came back from a similar situation in 2005.

Yes but that Liverpool had Steven Gerrard and Xabi Alonso, this one has Damien Plessis and Diego Cavalieri.

2044: "Game over for Liverpool? 3-0 down at half-time - AC Milan thought that once, remember."
Carl, via text on 81111

Well done Carl.

I spoke to soon, it's Istanbul all over again.

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who gives a shit, it's the league cup

Fuck, more like Constantinople.

he'll be dancing on the streets of the Scott Estate tonight.

2051: "For 35 years I have followed this club and that is the worst performance I have ever seen. I just want to cry into my cup of tea and go home."
Scoopex the sad Red, White Hart Lane, via text on 81111

THIS IS THE WORST DAY IN THE HISTORY OF OUR SPORT

Ha way to defend the deficit

WALTZ IT UP, JIMLAD

now that we know gomes will be ok, thank fuck he got stretchered off at 4-2

At least lol chelsea

bloody hell, will Chelsea ever win on pens?

a) Ade Akinbiyi scored
b) How the fuck did Chelsea get 41,000 in for a midweek League Cup match?

Unless it was "kids for a quid" night or summat.

lol chelsea, lol liverpool and lol rangers (latter not related to this thread, but related to lolworthiness of this evening). i luv football again.

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You exhibitionist.

haha :-)

Best sport in the world.

it's a pity 'philip deggen' doesn't have quite the same rhythmic resonance here, then flack might fly where deserved. anyway, congrats spurs, you deserve your place in the sunshine.

I think it might be time to seriously consider whether Harry Redknapp is actually God.

― Chopper Aristotle (Matt DC), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 20:34 (Yesterday) Permalink

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Someone on the radio pointed out that
07-08 Chelsea go out of the FA Cup to Championship side Barnsley, with Nigerian international Kayode Odejayi scoring
08-09 Chelsea go out of the Carling Cup to Championship side Burnsley, with Nigerian international Ade Akinbiyi scoring

Odejayi is Akinbiyi's cousin.

(I bet I've fucked up that code somewhere)

you couldn't make it look anything other than beautiful, and to hell with the code.

LFC were incisive and zippy at times last night, and their support was impressive at times. But their defending was keystone kops stuff, defender crashing into keeper, strikers unmarked in the box, etc ... and I say that as one who has witnessed half a lifetime of such defending at WHL, and Gomes playing in goal like a civil servant or a shop assistant.

LFC really weren't that bad, and they chose to play mostly 2nd-stringers (plus Euro 2008's top scorer, + Alonso sub!), but I still think putting four past them is a rare achievement - when did anyone last do it?

Our men of the match: Dawson, Huddlestone, Campbell - who actually seems to want to *partner* Pavluychenko.

I mean, the strikers seemed to play together, which nobody has done with Bent.

when did anyone last do it?

didn't Metz or someone beat them 5-0 in a pre-season friendly? doesn't really count

otherwise, Arsenal's 6-2 in the Carling Cup in early 2006 i think

Pinefox are you still hating on Bent then, and what would he have to do to change your mind? To be fair, no one has tried to play Bent with a second striker really - he and Pavlyuchenko have combined okay on a couple of occasions when one or the other came on as a sub but mostly it's been one upfront all the way.

I'd like to see Campbell upfront with Bent in the next game, they could combine well because Campbell seems a pretty incisive young player. But nothing that disturbs giving Luca Modric a free role behind the front line.

(This was mostly a second-string Spurs side as well, albeit a more experienced one. Maybe LFC were playing third-stringers)

LFC humiliation by a spurs second string team is a better humiliation than Arsenal's plucky kids staging unbelievable upset against premier league giant Wigan.

really wish there were more Chelsea fans on here

Yeah, Liverpool side last night seemed weaker than the team thumped 6-3 at Anfield by Arsenal in 2006 (a few days after LFC first-XI had also lost 3-1 at home to Arsenal in the FA Cup). But still, I'm not going to split hairs. (Liverpool also beaten 4-1 at home by Chelsea within recent memory; beyond that I'll need to get my scrapbook of Liverpool Echo clippings out for other Kopite reverses of note).

I'll have to respectfully disagree with Pinefox on a few points-

LFC were incisive and zippy at times last night, and their support was impressive at times.

Short of allowing 'once or twice over 98 mins' as 'at times', I didn't think Liverpool offered anything at all.

defender crashing into keeper happened after Campbell had already beaten both with his first touch, i think.

LFC really weren't that bad- They really were!

Our men of the match: Dawson, Huddlestone, Campbell - who actually seems to want to *partner* Pavluychenko.

Dunno about Dawson- he had a good game, but was it really more worthy of note than Corluka, who wasn't badly at fault for one of the goals?

I think it would be shorter to note the players that didn't have excellent games- Hutton (again), Bale (although good going forward, was terrible at back), Gomes (of course).

Even Zokora did his job last night, FFS!

I completely forgot that this abject humiliation was due to take place until I saw the back page of the Metro this morning, but I would take it over defeat to Spurs in the final every fucking time.

However, if you want to throw wet sponges of shame at me for the next hour or so, my torso is bare and prepared.

what's the draw?

Carling Cup quarter-finals draw:
Stoke City v Derby County
Manchester United v Blackburn Rovers
Burnley v Arsenal
Watford v Tottenham Hotspur

Bo-ring. Except for maybe the plucky Burnley defeat of Arsenal's superhuman children.

Derby v Burnley semi final might be nice

lol future.

Vela out

the lack of David Ngog in this competition really threatens its credibility

Wait so they've now put Chelsea and Arsenal out which makes them... this year's Barnsley?

this year's tottenham.

jesus, talk about a short memory.

Except for maybe the plucky Burnley defeat of Arsenal's superhuman children.

― Chopper Aristotle (Matt DC), Saturday, November 15, 2008 2:04 PM (2 weeks ago)

Called it.

crisis, what crisis??

etc

rofl

Men against boys in the man utd vs blackburn game...

mourinho quote about taking his players off the training pitch springs to mind.

lennon was good tonight, and i have to admit ekotto really looks the part as an attacking left back. he's still a shit defender, though not as bad as dawson, who still isn't good enough to be third choice.

watford were impressive though, well organised, and it didn't look like we could break them down until their captain left the pitch.

Brendan Rogers is tipped to become the British Mourinho according to Five Live. You heard it here first, but I think that means 'non-existent playing career'.

Dawson is fourth-choice now, below Corluka, surely?

Brendan Rogers is tipped to become the British Mourinho according to Five Live. You heard it here first, but I think that means 'non-existent playing career'.

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How soon history has wiped Arrigo Sacchi's memory away.

Tevez back on the bench for the weekend then, yeah?

Maybe stick him in instead of Berbatov? I've been unimpressed by Berbatov so far. I don't doubt he's got talent, but I'm worried he might be one of those players who looks like the greatest in the world when you win 5-0, but becomes invisible whenever the going gets tough. Mind you, on the rare occasions that Tevez has played this season he's been shite (except tonight, obviously).

becomes invisible whenever the going gets tough

Or when linesman are looking for offside players vs Celtic </broken record>

Tevez looked really good at the start of the season, before you signed Berbatov. I fucking love Tevez, though.

Redknapp out.

My dicey stream is currently running about 90 seconds behind the chat box to the right of the screen, which rather takes away the otherwise considerable element of surprise

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I think Spurs might yet win this semi-final tie.

Didn't see the match but allegedly Jamie O'Hara is a pretty good player.

Makeweight for Downing? Why keep your home-grown talent when you can exchange it for a one-dimensional overrated winger who played well in that one England friendly AND offload some cash too?

lol but i keep taking the piss outta that dude for his "robin van injury" comment so i'd better schtum before downing turns out to be awesome and i turn out to be a massive hypocrite

And in a repeat of last night's fun, the wee team put a goal past the big team for shits and giggles. Expect them to get thumped in the second half.

OH SHIT BRIAN CLOUGH'S SPIRIT JUST APPEARED IN THE SKY AND WINKED KNOWINGLY AT THE CROWD

<3 Jeff Stelling

"If Derby hold on and win this, there will surely be a fanfare for the Commons man"

yeah i heard him say that

omg worst miss of all time !!!!1

amirite pfunkboy

lol

Just when this couldn't get any better, Robbie Savage!

Was that Derby v Man U game as entertaining to watch as it sounds?

not really

Lucky Rams and underperforming Man U?

Wouldn't say Derby were lucky, more up for it definitely though. They had a couple of chances to increase their lead, which I think they'll regret. They'll get turned over at Old Trafford if Man Utd decide to turn up.

aye if the 1st team gets picked

Lucky Rams and underperforming Man U?

No, Derby deserved it. They played a good pressing game and didn't give United any time on the ball. As Ailsa said, though, they'll regret not getting the second goal.

Where's my watch. Where's Peter Taylor. Blah blah blah. Don Revie. Blah blah.

It's nearly that time again people for me to both get very excited and also incredibly depressed to see people five years younger doing things I cannae even attempt on Pro Evo, like Wilshere's caving-in-head move seen here:

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Dirty tug on Sanchez Watt, there.

Have you got a decent stream of this?

These kids are rubbish, dunno what all the fuss is about

Sanchez done the Dirty on WBA.

Have you got a decent stream of this?

Like Wenger, I saw nothing.

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I think this year's Carling Cup Competition is where Elmander will really come into his own.

"My eyes are not great and my ears are even worse. I could not hear anything from the touchline."

question for caek-

was the argentine lad, i don't know his name bill, offside yesterday evening by dint of beckford (onside) interfering with play, or is it the player on whom the offside is called that must be interfering with play? the rules seem a little unclear.

that was alright, that was. gomes still had a lot to do. lovely finishes from crouch, feel sorry that dos santos left injured agter only 16 mins though.

That backheel from Crouch was lovely. He should really be in the starting XI over Keane at the moment.

i only noticed, but he has quite a good touch for a big man

also: keane always likely to produce a moment of magic, defoe lethal from that distance.

Yeah but Crouch gives you a different option...

lennon is lightning quick over the first few yards, but then you have to allow for the extra yard of pace in sheringham's head.

We should sign Dirk 'Works His Socks Off' Kuyt for the full cliched attacking line.

you go too far

lol at the idea of a spurs attacker working his socks of though, nice one.

I could watch that Crouch backheel over and over.

Keane was comically annoyed when the cross for Crouch's second went past him, and didn't really seem to cheer up any when he realised it was for Crouch and that he'd scored it. I thought he might do his jazz hands rage dance over it.

Jesus we were not good last night McCarthy Out

Meanwhile, Everton without their stalwart, inspirational, irreplaceable captain Neville - 11 goals without reply.

Yakubu celebrating his comeback goal by running over and hugging the physio was probably my favourite moment of last night.

Yeah! What a nice dude.

Just saw Phil Brown's post-match interview - apparently it's Everton's fault for playing in Europe on a Thursday and so pushing their league match to Sunday and this Cup tie to the Wednesday, leaving Hull not enough time to prepare for the Liverpool game at the weekend. Hence the weakened team. If I were a Hull fan I'd be delighted with that explanation.

They don't call him Dumbass for nothing

Like the 20 minute long lateness excuse of an unreliable office temp

As an Evertonian Mrs V went to the match last night and spent 2 hours pretending not to laugh as they were sat in the home end. Her theory was that Hull were shit.

Mrs V has clearly studied the game in some depth and I don't think many could argue with her conclusion.

Mrs V should start posting here. It gets lonely, y'know.

Wilshere v. Liverpool is going to be exciting!

Are tickets still cheap for these games?

It'll still be cheap, but can imagine it'll sell out a lot faster than the game against WBA. Bet it'll still end up going to general sale, though.

RIP Jack Wilshere.

Was he killed by Alberto Aquilani, saviour of Liverpool?

Aquilani stole his ankle.

what happened jack wilshere (rip) (xp)

Teenage growth spurt made his ankle fall off.

Also Arsene doesn't want him out in public in case Gordon Strachan tries to snatch him.

foot blown off below ankle by explosion of pure raw talent & potential

Good to see the kid living up to his 'next joe cole in english football' tag in every possible way.

not really excited about tonight now its going to be full of first team players. It'd be much funnier if we embarrased Liverpool by starting Sanchez Watt instead of Eduardo etc.

that's not fair- rafa can't be expected to compete with wenger's level of spending, or redknapp's, or bruce's, etc etc etc

Squad innit:

Wojciech Szczesny
Lukasz Fabianski
Philippe Senderos
Kyle Bartley
Mikael Silvestre
Kieran Gibbs
Kerrea Gilbert
Fran Merida
Francis Coquelin
Craig Eastmond
Emmanuel Frimpong
Aaron Ramsey
Mark Randall
Samir Nasri
Eduardo
Gilles Sunu
Nicklas Bendtner
Sanchez Watt

Wenger is to start Eduardo for once, apparently.

Poor 'Chippy' Vela.

Fabianski will be in pole position.

Craig Eastmond getting his debut. I have no idea who he is and I was sure Coquelin would start instead. I'm thinking it might just be Wenger fucking with people giving another englisher a chance.

"Give a big hand for tonight's mascots, nine-year-old Louisa for Liverpool and eight-year-old Thomas for Arsenal. With special guest star Phil Brown as the Gunnersaurus."

Ebway managing to kick the ball off the field as 21 sixteen-year-olds tut in unison.

...and someone's brought a beach ball.

Chorus of "What the fuck, what the fuck, what was the fucking point of that? What was the fucking point of that?" as Liverpool player puts it wide.

"that is something like thierry henry would produce" according to radio. why have the 14000 streams i have tried not worked? ;_;

Gibbs and Ramsey make a chance, Bendtner and Edu fuck it up.

Get in.

Cesc on his feet and cheering as he realises he can leave in the summer now we have MERIDA.

Also: get on sopcast for streams innit.

i found one, 'tis cool.

i think it is as much to do with my shoddy internet speed than anything.

Big Send with the block, there.

scunthorpe pulled one back. real and city making big transfer fees look not really worth it.

BREAKING - SMALL CHILD SCORES FIRST LIVERPOOL GOAL

my internet died. what happened?

Goal out of nothing from outbox the box, Fabianski blameless.

*outside*, even.

Gilbert appears to be a homegrown Ebway, passing to players who won't be able to do fuck with the ball once (or if) they get it.

Pah, Eboue has been pretty good this season.

The stream I'm watching has some hilarious commentator who blatantly only recognises Dirk Kuyt and so keeps saying "Kuyt" whenever Liverpool get the ball.

I might keep a "Dirk Kuyt" count.

that was downright sexy.

Thought Bendtner just fucked up a pass but then MERIDA zoomed onto the ball from off the screen but Skrtel scuppered it.

Silvestre looking out of breath.

Silvestre I just don't understand. You've been at Arsenal over a year mate, surely you must understand that we aren't the team to have you hoof it at every chance.

lol it's the screamer

lol Bendtner

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Dude is really trying to make me look bad for saying he will be grebt. Seriously, he has ALL the great attributes for a perfect striker- so why the fuck is he such a moron?

Merida is looking terrific, hope we sort out his contract soon.

Should be about 6-3 to Liverpool.

also oh cavaleripaws.

No one lolled at my Fabianski "in pole position" joke earlier. Just thought I'd mention that.

really? they look ready to fall apart whenever we have the ball. if it wasn't for a shoddy right back, bendtner and silvestre this would be like 5-0 to us already.

I just assumed you stole it from one of the big arsenal blogs

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On no, I've been found out like Phil Brown's tactics.

Bendtner's obviously staking a claim to play down the middle in future as he blatantly can't kick straight.

Jamie Redknapp telling 21 year old Bendtner that as he is an old man he should be leading by example.

Torres-esque?

Owly going mental for that goal, classic.

Can I say how much I hate "the quarterback role"? It's proper football and they are called playmakers.

So it is October and Rafa has lost 7 games this season.

The fact that he still has a job is mental.

ok so i want man city in the next round (and then spurs in the semis as per usual. and then chelsea in the final- retribution for ade, toure and eboue getting sent off for being black guys.)

8 teams left, all premier league. this competition has really gone to seed.

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Deco looking like ye olde Deco here.

ok so i want man city in the next round (and then spurs in the semis as per usual. and then chelsea in the final- retribution for ade, toure and eboue getting sent off for being black guys.)

i'll just point out that if you meet spurs in the semi final 'as usual', then you won't be playing anyone in the final.

Zombie Jack Wilshere vs Adebayor in the next round.

good work on taunting the gunner darragh, good work.

I though darron gibson had a pretty bad game against besiktas but that being said I thought he definitely looked the part - the movement off the ball was pretty stale in tht game and it flattened a lot of what he has to offer; def one to watch

Zombie Jack Wilshere's got a craving for brains:

Tomas Rosicky
Carlos Vela
Aaron Ramsey
Alex Song
Mikael Silvestre
Jack Wilshere
Lukasz Fabianski (GK)
Vito Mannone (GK)
Emmanuel Eboue
Armand Traore
Fran Merida
Kyle Bartley
Francis Coquelin
Craig Eastmond
Emmanuel Frimpong
Kerrea Gilbert
Mark Randall
Sanchez Watt

Fratton Park is the worst place

uncovered stand in a rainstorm amirite

unexcited about our 3rd defeat in a row tonight. almost makes me feel bad for mocking liverpool so much recently.

rain is fine compared to 'cunt w/ a bell'

They have a roof on their stand now, which covers about 90% of the stand; I was in the 10%

I don't mind that though it's just a fucking shithole

needs a comparison with selhurst park

Wenger talking about signing a striker in Jan making himself look a little silly for telling journos how they were all wrong about him needing to sign another striker and talking about all his mad attacking options not so long ago.

I managed to miss the bit where the season was now over for losing a game and RVP got bumped up to five months out. Not looking forward to tonight, I'm worried it's the only thing that will actually motivate Adebayor to remember how to play.

Sit in the front four rows all around the ground at the Emirates stadium and you get pissed on as well. Think Arsene got a 17 year-old in to design the roof as well.

Suedey, I'm thinking that maybe Arsene knows that Uncle Stan will be in charge by the January window, or something. Not that he's bringing any money for players with him, apparently.

Considering if Armand Traore might be the best of these kids

is that sarcasm?

Thinking of starting a Paul Is Dead rumour about this new fat rosicky lookalike

Arsene Wenger and Mark Hughes get involved in a childish spat as Wenger asks the fourth official why his opposite number has strayed out of his technical area. Hughes tells him to shut up, in a manner of speaking.

in all honesty, we have held our own and if our passing was a little slicker, we could dominate. and i know this will jinx it but silvestre has been the best player on the pitch for the first game of his arsenal career.

Stop jinxing things then!

Traore's technique is fantastic, lunging mid-fibula,trailing leg augmenting with superb tendon-slicing ankle hits. Wilshere a clogger by comparison.

Surprisingly the thing I've thought most is that Arsenal have been trying to take shots when they should have passed to people in better positions...

Wish I could bet on the likeliness of this Arsenal team scoring from a corner.

The circumstances of the game have artificially made Silvestre appear to be good; dont forget that he isnt

i dont think we've yet had a corner tho?

That sounds about right, even from a cross would do

I never want to see Traore play again unless he scores 4 hat tricks in the next 10 minutes

yeah, he's shite and i cannot wait until this summer when his contract expires and we can at least have some rubbish kid whos inability can be blamed on his age (and blindly hope he can get better) instead of knowing that 31 year old is rubbish and always will be

tbf i thought traore was doing alright v. swp until his yellow card.

(We've had one corner)

12 shin splints maybe

Nah, swp sucked Traore right in in the first time the ball came near him and was sprinting down the right, it was inevitable it would happen again even though he surprisingly did alright for a bit. You knew the yellow card would happen when it did as soon as swp got the ball, his position was all wrong

I cant watch players like him, they just make me feel edgy

Silvestreugh
Where's that cultured swiss polymath who so enraptured the San Siro?

He's invisible

either injured or wenger is really too scared in ever letting him play again

to take in consideration my judgement- i am also learning to juggle while watching (to little avail either way)

Oh rosickypaws

I dont even know why they'd bother putting the corner in, the players even look hesitant to actually get in the box

i was changing stream, what happened?

Carlos Tevez opens the scoring with a lovely, lovely strike. Rosicky lost possession on the left wing, Tevez got the ball, drifted inside and fired an unstoppable shot past Fabianski and into the top corner. The defending for the Tevez goal was a bit dodgy but the finish was supreme.

Rosicky really should have got the ball away - they'd just cleared it - but Ive thought that about him a few times tonight. Lovely strike though, yeah.

love when commentators can't tell the difference between black people. dunno who this guy is but his "TRAORE HAS TO GO THAT IS A YELLOW CARD OFFENCE AND HE SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED TO STAY ON THE PITCH OH WAIT IT IS SILVESTRE GETTING A YELLOW"

also keeps calling our dm EASTWOOD

Is a better name tbf

its teh dirty sanchez! woooo!

Lacks Frimpong

sweet finish. must shoot traore out of the cannon

Good for morale, this

anyone got a feed suggestion?

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=57443&part=sports

thanks but i don't think the mac attack will do this

working for me

Oh good, Song is out of the Stoke game. Starting to worry about that one now, never mind the fact it's at home...

yay, thanks a bunch suedey2

this is just turning into a farce.

not worrying about stoke. worrying about my google reader being full of boring arse CRISIS stories tho

well done to Blackburn for making a real go of this

jesus that chatbox on the live feed suedey2 provided...

nggggh

c&p any choice quotes dude

guys its the carling cup, the most pointless cup in europe. its a shame to be losing but honestly dont give a toss

It's good that all of Arsenal's young players have learnt the important lesson of how it feels to lose 3-0, soon they'll replicating that sort of form in the first team

if wenger's last team learnt how to lose properly and not just be moany cunts, we would have won the 04/05 season with ease

Might be a pointless cup but I think it was more important for the team to win, get back and beat Man City after all the nonsense, and get some momentum going again

Two 3-0s in a row is bad however you look at it, and their results against Man City have been hopeless. This doesnt look like a side that could even threaten to win, I'd wonder more how much good it actually does those players at all

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honestly, i don't know and don't really care. it obviously had a big impact on song and cesc etc.'s career but then the same can't really be said of the aliadieres of the past. it sucks to lose 3-0 twice in a row, and it sucks to lose to ade's city twice but ultimately its not the end of the world and may hopefully push wenger a bit harder to sort out our problems now he's starting to get a bit of cash in his pocket

Semi Final: Man City v Man Utd
Please, please, please Ferguson - don't play the reserves

HA

Gah - Chelsea make it 3-3

dont worry Chelsea are shit at pens

Yes, they are.

really tho

Ha ha

I've got a feeling Villa are going to win dis ting.

i dunno, Fergie seems to give a shit about it even more than MON these days

The weird thing is that he *doesn't* really give a shit about it, but United seem to keep doing well in it with second string teams. I really hope he does give a shit about it in January.

it is the only trophy united can win this season after all

also, gibson is totally the best striker united has right now?

when jenas is the player meant to be marking you, you tend to be able to pick your spot.

Man City: Given, Zabaleta, Richards, Boyata, Garrido, De Jong, Kompany, Barry, Wright-Phillips, Tevez, Bellamy.
Subs: Taylor, Onuoha, Ireland, Robinho, Sylvinho, Petrov, Mwaruwari.
Man Utd: Van der Sar, Rafael Da Silva, Brown, Jonathan Evans, Evra, Anderson, Carrick, Fletcher, Valencia, Rooney, Giggs.
Subs: Kuszczak, Neville, Owen, Park, Scholes, Fabio Da Silva, Diouf.

2 full strengthish teams- another 4-3? Anyone else watching?

Yes. Was expecting a thrashing from City, but that United team is as close to full strength as Ferguson can muster at the moment so things look a bit more promising.

playing pretty well too. Oh, 1-0

ryan giggs can still tap a ball in aged 73! SPOTY '10 imo

Giggs' first goal against City for fourteen years! (when he was in his fifties)

This has been a good game so far

I think I hope United win?

you mean the prospect of possibly losing in a final to manchester city is that cruel you'd rather face a better team?

always supporting the poor underdog innit

amazing goal by giggs, really rolling back the years. shooting from that range! he still has the audacity he displayed when he first came on the scene in 1842, a welcome distraction from the Irish famine.

fergie out (if this pen goes in)

rafael looks like he is going to throw up.

glad rooney's fat ogre mouth spitting some bilious insults didn't do any damage

that wasn't actually a penalty but rafael kinda deserved it for being shocking

What a penalty!

ps fuck u ladbrokes website for being so slow to log in to that i couldn't bet on city at their losing odds, now have drawing odds.

you mean the prospect of possibly losing in a final to manchester city is that cruel you'd rather face a better team?

yeah, think I'd rather be crushed by a familiar jackboot than be symbolically usurped by a giant pound sign

not that we're in the final yet

netbusting hoofed penalties fucking rule

This idea that the ref can't give a penalty if the offence starts outside the box, that's not right is it? Caek? Andy Gray was giving it this re Richards' foul on Saha on Saturday, and now Lawro's doing the same about that one ('ref's been conned', no less)

dude, blackburn rovers are a shame upon the premier league - you will swat them like a pesky slug that has somehow found its way onto your shoulder

but yeah that first point is what i was getting at

it wasn't a penalty because there was no contact in the box?

my understanding was that the ref can give the penalty if the foul carries on, but I think what they were saying is that the foul had completely stopped by the time Bellamy was in the box

xp to ik

There was contact though, wasn't there? Never mind, Shearer will put us right.

but yeah, happy to see Vidic-style "your shirt, give it to me" rapist defending like that punished tbh

That penalty is beautiful btw.

^ Yeah, on the replay it was clear that he didn't actually touch Bellamy once they were in the box (Bellamy just fell over as he was trying to cross it), so it shouldn't have been a penalty, but in real time it looked like a penalty.

Maybe you're right - but if it's a single foul carrying into the box, doesn't the ref just play advantage until the forward's in the box? Shearer's about to tell us otherwise.

gotta say it looked like he had another grab at his arm in real-time, but he was, rather, flailing at his own ineptitude, in the dithyramb of a defender beaten

oh fuck off rooney jizzing, he KNEW to be standing by the goal when the left back got utterly done, GENIUS

Shearer tediously otm about the penalty, really

Shearer has always been tediously otm about penalties

oh, you mean the decision, not the strike

rip bill mclaren...total legend. shame none of the obits are mentioning jonah lomu rugby on the ps1...total blind spot for the people who might be fans of bill but massive for younger generation.

bbc did a nice little montage of his best commentary moments on their website, accompanied by the music of mansun

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/8468749.stm

was kind of expecting like "Shotgun" or something

Shearer conspicuously *not* otm about the penalty.

Shearer: "Mike Reilly's saying he's done it twice ... but that's funny, I don't remember him giving a foul for the first one!!11!!"
Dixon: "no, he's saying there were two offences, the penalty's for the second one"
I do wish Dixon weren't so polite

Got to disagree a bit with the BBC's tactical verdict: even though United had the majority of the possession, they weren't creating many chances. This is a familiar story. City had less of the ball but better chances. I'd have said the first half was 50/50, rather than 80/20 in United's favour as they were making out.

oh yeah Shearer went developmentally disabled halfway through being otm about the penalty, fair point

even though United had the majority of the possession, they weren't creating many chances.

Isn't what they said though?

was kind of expecting like "Shotgun" or something

montage of clive tyldesley deserves nothing less

"The Brazilian twins: Jeduardo"

die die die die die die die

hang on did the bbc commentator just refer to the da silvas as 'jedwardo'

did he just

d-

it is decided. he dies.

That's quite the dive by Richards

decided that "Jedwardo" was a crime against humanity even before I realised that bears virtually no relation to either of their names.

Given carried that forward, how could it be a corner

Rafabio

Rafabio Nitez

"there's some meat on that header and valencia's interested"

there's a new music that's taking over the country

and it's called CITEH

http://www.isport.in/site/images/stories/3728668669_aa199aefc6.jpg etc.

mowbray is dire...I know this is harsh but almost worse than Tyldo.

tevez is the greatest footballer in the history of the game. "FERGIE FERGIE SIGN HIM UP", glad that utter twat chant is being sung back at the Man U fans.

Not sure what Tevez's big deal is here to be honest. You'd think he'd been treated like Adebayor.

really fantastic brave goalkeeping there by vds...jumping out of the way

ps fuck u ladbrokes website for being so slow to log in to that i couldn't bet on city at their losing odds, now have drawing odds.

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should have gone with them odds :(

lawro: "boyata could have scored, he was just behind tevez!"

fucking cunt moron 'commentator': "but that wouldn't have been as big a story! *pause* Car-los Tevez."

p.s. tevez had already scored

and boyata is a 14 year-old playing his second match ever, or something

come on city...don't relent, you must now completely batter man u

it was the untuousness with which he said "Car-los Tevez", bereft of any engaged footballing thought, that topped that one off imo

god. owen...vomit

if this goes 2-2 I think United will go through, but 3-1 looks more likely at the moment

Anderson really needs to be off the pitch, good call

can't see united not scoring again tbh

even as bad as they've been

Owen came on? I was too busy being knocked out of the CL 2nd round by Leverkusan to notice ;_;

Is the Carling Cup "live score" thing behind? That's how I'm forced to follow this at this point, its saying Man U up 1-0.

follow this instead: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8468503.stm

if you mean the bbc one, press refresh, it'll go back to normal.

Hah, apparently. Thanks for the link!

like the return of benjani, always thought he was good and wondered why he'd disappeared

That would've been a stunning goal

why are they sitting back...teams always do this against man u, just begging to concede

they'll lose 3-2 if they aren't careful

"Wouldn't that be a story if the man in Carlos Tevez's old shirt scored the equilaser?"

Yes Guy, that would be a story. A very dull story.

Benjani looks pretty lazy, Rooney immense, Owen might as well not be there

conclusion: guy mowbray is terrible, also man u were probably the better team for longer periods, also aston villa have half a shout

man u were only good in last 15 mins imo, extremely poor before that.

I agree. City, when they play, look like they're becoming a seriously good side - largely down to Bellamy. Hanging on like that was pretty undignified though

i thought man u bossed most of the first half! without creating much. city created barely anything in the second half - preposterous defending for both goals

Yes Guy, that would be a story. A very dull story.

Haha!

That would've been a stunning goal

End-to-end move finishing with the Rooney shot?

man u were only good in last 15 mins imo, extremely poor before that

Much better in the last 15 minutes than in the rest of the match, but 'extremely poor' is a crazy exaggeration.

Utd remind me of Arsenal right now

As for Guy, in his favour at least he's not Jonathan Pierce. Do all commentators need their own patented irritating tic?

Car-los Tevez. E-nun-ci-ate.

End-to-end move finishing with the Rooney shot?

Yup, the speed and precision of that was amazing, like Ronaldo was still there

well they didn't create a great deal, man u. maybe just "poor".

I thought bellamy was robbed for man of the match...

ee diiiiived tho, that counts against im

game on. tbh. city ain't gonna get a jammy penalty like that in old trafford

but united embarrassing should have brought out the 2nd team tbh

you penalize the first offence, but if it's a continuous offence that takes place outside and then inside the penalty area, then i'm not sure. i would have assumed you give a foul/penalty based on where it begins. pass.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/01_03/Tevez1901_482x449.jpg

neville is such a prick, his admirable passion for united is less so when it's all he's got to go with.

i knew he had injuries but i didn't know it required amputation on both his legs

s'ok he wasn't using them

Villa going goal crazy

Losing count now

wow did i pick the wrong game to watch

haha same here

This is not a football score, it's a time signature.

5-4 now you guys.

I stayed in London for this because I wanted to go to the Arsenal game next week, then realised I couldn't go to the Arsenal game anyway

And now it's tennis.

6-4, so glad I turned over from Lolverpool v LolSpurs.

He struck that beautifully.

More stadiums should play Doris Day at the final whistle. I suggest "Perhaps, Perhaps, Perhaps".

Scholes and Giggs starting for United, only Rooney up front, I don't like the sound of that.

Scholes off and Berbatov on second half, please.

Please, please, please? Ferguson has absent-mindedly selected a team to defend a one-goal lead, forgetting that it's City who have that lead.

only just tuned in, and united are taking a pounding

erm haha

LOL Wayne Iwelumo!

hahahahahah

blimey goals

was just about to ask about away goals but if this is 2-1 2-1 then it doesn't matter. worth switching over for et/pen lols?

yes

everyone needs to see rooneys miss of the season/decade

i would say the same about downings but lol downing

rooney spoiling the fun

rooooooooooney!

everyone needs to see rooneys miss of the season/decade INJURY TIME WINNER - get the fuck in (again)!

Mancini: sacked in the morning

lol
xp

we agreed with Roberto that he would win the 2010 Carling Cup, and we see no real signs that this target will be met in the near future

we agreed with Roberto it was a case of not if, but when

Venables is turning into Bernard Cribbins.

Garry Cook is such a massive, massive cunt

Well, yes.

wait, what has he done this time?

just puttin it out there tbh

think he might of said that man city would win but then they didnt or something though? I dunno i dont really understand soccer

[head in hands]

I know what you're thinking, Daniel: the referee signalled three minutes of added time, but what with Rooney's goal and celebration, we ended up having four and a quarter minutes instead - surely evidence of a pro-City conspiracy by the officials? I mean this just never happens, does it?

does this mean now that tevez is officially overpriced?

what was the transfer fee & wages for tevez? not seen any sure figures in a while so can't remember.

it was up to about £46m in tabloid-speak in the summer. But I don't know what that means any more. Nor, if any of it was a transfer fee as such, do I know who it was paid to.

46m inc 5 years wages at say 100k per week?

20m transfer fee.

personally think he's overpriced at that fee and those wages, but he's looking better than he did at united for certain.

it's the hair combed back thing, floppy curtains doesn't suit him

looked up a youtube of berbatov and keane together on youtube last night and man berbatov has aged about a decade since his floppy/hairband days.

that's what smoking does to you

also the lack of keane loving

well keane coming back to us has aged me about a decade tbh

lack of keane loving does that to you.

certainly i don't love keane.

you could loan him to us til the end of the season, I think that might work

end of the season? i still have my pride sir.

(I wuz secretly hoping we might engineer a brief return for RK but bollocks to giving him a contract)

keane to celtic/sunderland seems to be the constant low-level buzz.

robbie keane- a constant low-level buzz

yeah I know. Think we're still more likely to get a J. Beattie cameo tbh

don't act like you're above that.

would take him ahead of crouch this past few weeks. has there been a thread on crouch's unbelievable lack of aerial ability?

I think Beattie wd be a good move for Wolves and him at this point

xpost good feet for a big man though

well for him without saying.

but doyle's been impressive in the 'aerial ball winning chaser/harrier' role?

problem with good feet for a big man is that when we play him, the back four don't see his feet and we turn into liverpool. and he's distressingly bad at timing and jump, challenging in the air and directing a header.

i mean he is bad bad bad at each of those things.

Doyle's been absolutely great, but until Seb remembers where the back of the net is - and he mightn't ever find out at this level - we cd really do with a guy who can score in the Prem alongside him.

two big men up front? not sure that's allowed.

Sunderland's whole shtick iirc

For a guy who's supposed to be 5'11" Doyle doesn't really look like a Big Man tho

Also Seb kinda plays the Big Man role too except he's 4'6"

doyle play big man to a t.

prediction: something something something man utd something something right backs. something ashley young something something diving scum something. something something lazy bastid something something berbatov something. raping something johnny evens something something something something alan pardew.

the way Alan Green went on (and on) in his R5 pre-match report, Sir Alex Ferguson is going with the youth team rather than resting Rooney and Van Der Sar

HOW DARE HE PLAY JI-SUNG PARK DOESN'T HE KNOW THAT CUP FINALS ARE SACRED

the youth team of vidic, brown, berbatov, park etc.? wenger would be proud :)

sorry no brown but owen starts. dude has eternally been 18 years old

ws national anthem lady*

*helps that i have it on mute i guess

is collins english? he should be in the squad if so.

looooooooooool

Good work Vidic.

Hahahaha

phil dowd knows how to pull a face

also ha

Vidic raked by speedy breakaway shock

MPx4A iPhone liveblog plz

So Vidic should be off, according to the telly

didsid vidic not even get booked?

"gyaah, maybe Phil Dowd really is within his rights to deem Vidic's attempt to ethnically cleanse Gabby Agbonlahor worthy of a talking-to"

Lawro "he's just on" - aye, by about a yard at least.

Hope the Man U keeper's dance becomes a trend.

^^^^hope this was a real quote

bah xpost to lj

That was my iPhone autocorrect that came up with 'sid vidic' btw - I'm having it from now on

cant believe i missed out 'something something milner something something hard working' and 'lol mickey owens' from my prediction

I'm just a keen scholar of posting-styles aren't I

Sid Vidic is amazing

lol now he gets his card out

i think phil dowd is my favourite of the lol refs

lol mickey owens

!!

you can't be as cumbersome as Richard Dunne without being contractually obliged to have at least one terrible nightmare moment per cup-run

Phil Dowd wearing a red shirt underneath his black one?

The black one is actually Man Utd's new fourth away change kit.

I hate to ask, but does anyone have a good stream?

You not in the UK? Recommend il3m1.com (de-googleproof)

Thanks! (no, I'm not in the UK)

pitch already looking a bit natty? don't really understand wembley tbh

what happened to owen?*

*dont have sound on.

Hamstring, innit.

http://static.open.salon.com/files/surprise1256905092.gif

hahaha

Why don't you have sound on, are you in a library? Andy gray is really annoying me today, right enough

watch it on bbc then?

dont have the sound on just because i cant find my control to turn it up tbh

"Vidic has got his caution, 62 minutes after he should have."

Red Nev not coming on because he needed a piss was a bit o_O.

Villa :(

someone's gonna have to sweep up broken crockery tonight :(

Got Rooney @7/1 for next goal while he was on the bench, only bright spot in a terrible day.

Tottenham won't ever put 4 past Arsenal until September 21, 2010

A-HEM

5 years from now they'll all be playing for Watford anyway- The rolling Carling Cup Thread 2010/11

Heh. I ctrl-f'ed for 'carling' as well.