Caffeine headache

I had to give up coffee b/c of the headaches. Well, that and my daily coffee/Excederin cocktail.

"rebound headaches", my neurologist said.

I'd drink 2 cups of coffee in the morning, and then by the afternoon, a dull headache would start, so I'd pop some Excederin.

I did this for many years.

My liver probably hates me.

One pill of Excederin has the same amount of caffeine as two cups of coffee (I think).

caffeine is a good partial measure for treating many other types of headaches, such as my hangover today. oof.

Abbott, doesn't it have to do with blood flow?

I like a coca-cola for a hangover.

JW I actually do not know!

I stay away from all caffeine now, and I don't have any of those headaches anymore. A++!

Going off all caffeine cold-turkey was scary. They thought I was having a stroke. Wahooooooooooooooooo!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine

There are four caffeine-induced psychiatric disorders recognized by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition: caffeine intoxication, caffeine-induced anxiety disorder, caffeine-induced sleep disorder, and caffeine-related disorder not otherwise specified (NOS).

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An acute overdose of caffeine, usually in excess of 400 milligrams (more than 3–4 cups of brewed coffee), can result in a state of central nervous system overstimulation called caffeine intoxication. Some people seeking caffeine intoxication resort to insufflation (snorting) of caffeine powder, usually finely crushed caffeine tablets. This induces a faster and more intense reaction. The symptoms of caffeine intoxication are not unlike overdoses of other stimulants. It may include restlessness, nervousness, excitement, insomnia, flushing of the face, increased urination, gastrointestinal disturbance, muscle twitching, a rambling flow of thought and speech, irritability, irregular or rapid heart beat, and psychomotor agitation. In cases of much larger overdoses mania, depression, lapses in judgment, disorientation, loss of social inhibition, delusions, hallucinations, psychosis, rhabdomyolysis, and death may occur.

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i would guess it has something to do with caffeine constricting blood vessels? but i'm no md. all i know is that i went of cigarettes and coffee this week and i've gone through random stages of wanting to either punch everyone in the face or crawl under my desk and bawl.

i fell off the coffee wagon yesterday which made me feel a little better.

????????? You are now drinking coffee again?

I just quit smoking too and I can't tell about anything. That said I am usually sluggish and confused.

That is to say, my question indicates that I don't understand the wagon expression.

Drinking water helps with addiction a lot.

Building up a caffeine tolerance starts building up an increased adenosine sensitivity to compensate. Which all works out, until you decide to remove the caffeine all of a sudden, and suddenly all you get a steady over production of adenosine, which dilates your blood vessels (headache) and makes you lethargic.

Obviously the solution is to keep drinking coffee.

It's good stuff, I think. It's just annoying on a day I cannot have some in the morning and until then my head is all crazy. I only get them on one side of my head.

I went off everything at once and was a mess for about a week. I could hardly form a sentence, let alone carry on a conversation.

But then it got exponentially better, so I have no complaints, really.

????????? You are now drinking coffee again?

I just quit smoking too and I can't tell about anything. That said I am usually sluggish and confused.

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yesterday i was drinking coffee, today i'm trying to ween myself by drinking tea. coffee made me want a cigarette so goddamn bad. not sure this is the right time to quit, i don't think my heart's in it.

speaking of sluggish and tired i just noticed that i've been filling out the dates on all the stuff i've worked on today as 1/28/05. fucking great.

abbott, do you get migraines? i'm just sayin' b/c they're classically only on one side of your head.

Yeah I do. Solution: crawl under blanket fort.

huh, i never noticed the correlation between my caffiene headaches and my migraines before. (knock wood, haven't had one in 6 months)

oh bummer.

going off caffeine didn't really help with mine, unfortunately. but, one less type of headache is AOK with me. i'm officially a "Migraneur".

i've been getting like 4 migraines a month lately, but i think that has to do with stress and wedding planning (i.e. dealing with crazy mother).

Does anyone else get like insanely dizzy and have bad ataxia when they get a migraine?

Weren't doctors pushing the connection between caffeine and migraines a lot when blood pressure stuff was the big theory about migraines? I remember mine had me stop drinking coffee for a while, which didn't do a thing.

going off caffeine did help my migraines a little. or at least made them not a daily occurence. i get really dizzy and my eyes blur.

not so much with the dizzy and muscle weirdness.

mine have changed over the years. i used to be vom-central, and then it went to some weird sinus thing, and now it's just straight up metal rod through the skull, tectonic plates grinding, etc.

my dr. just put me on topamax. one side effect is weight loss. YES PLZ.

Caffeine cures migraines.

It helps mine, if I can fucking walk!

(Walk to get the excedrin or make coffee or soda pop or tea).

my uncle who gets migraines swears by drinking a coke when he feels a one coming on. i've tried it a few times with only 50/50 results.

I've never noticed any effect on my migraines. Since I don't have any prescription prophylactics -- my migraines are almost entirely visually theses -- blanket forts are the best treatment I have for the headaches these days.

i get really dizzy and my eyes blur.

same. plus nausea. the only thing that helps is sleep.

Coke is great for hangovers

great for preventing them too.

i'm not sure if i get the visual aura thing with a migraine. i get a few light blips out of the corner of my eyes, but nothing that stays there. my dad gets a c-shaped thing that just hangs out for a while during his headache.

I get a lot of color-changing floaters. (And sometimes without migraines! My doctor says it may be because I was dropped on the head very frequently as a child.)

i get a lot of those too! i have always blamed acid tho.

Oh I've had them as long as I can remember.

i think they make life more interesting.

aren't those just protein chunks in yr eyes?

xpost I believe you misspelled intersting

i've always had weird floaters, but the light blips are weird and fairly recent. my hypochondriacal self thought: omg my retina is fucked! but it may be b/c of my weird and changing migraines.

The first time I got my aura (shimmering blotches that gradually fill my field of vision until I can see everything, but can't perceive any details smaller than a chair) I thought I was going blind. After a couple aura-then-headache experiences they just seemed like sort of unpleasant cues that I ought to find a cold dark room to go be miserable in, quicky.

(my migraines have changed a lot too over the years...I never got the visual junk ever until I was 20 or so)

My dad gets the aura, but no headache, but they're still considered "visual migraines" (I think that's the name).

I'm taking Maxalt now when I get a headache, and it seems to be doing a wonderful and magical job. If I wait too long, however, it doesn't work, and a world of misery awaits.

I got the aura the other day but was naive enough not to realize I would have a headache/migraine (whatever the fuck you wanna call it) later on (as in today). Blergh.

Weren't doctors pushing the connection between caffeine and migraines a lot when blood pressure stuff was the big theory about migraines? I remember mine had me stop drinking coffee for a while, which didn't do a thing.

My OBGYN said I would not have migraines when I would be pregnant again. hah. Like so not true. I had migraines with O and with E. He claimed it was connected with the blood flow. So uh like no. I have read that in some cases the migraines go away when you are pregnant but in some cases it stays the same.

Anyway after stopping with breastfeeding I went on a caffeine rampage drinking coffee WAY too much. I am not and was never a coffee drinker but I figured it was so great that after 19 months I could drink caffeine again that I would drink it by the gallon. After a few weeks I had the nastiest migraine attacks EVER. I quit and now they are "normal" again.

I am probably trying to get some serious migraine pills as soon as I get Elisabeth off my breasts. I feel guilty for sometimes contemplating quiting breastfeeding because of the headaches. :-(

I hardly ever get migraines but last time I got one the left side of my face went completely numb like I'd had a dentist's injection. Does that happen to anyone else?

Not really. Well, I haven't that kind of feeling before.

I get face numbness but I think that's a side effect of my meds. (If I take them a few hours late my face goes totally numb.)

I hardly ever get migraines but last time I got one the left side of my face went completely numb like I'd had a dentist's injection. Does that happen to anyone else?

This used to happen to me in my long-ago teen-age years.

when i went of caffeine, i had a such a weird headache, that my right arm went numb, and then my leg (that's when they thought i was having a stroke). i'm not sure if it was a migraine or not. it was just bizarre.

fuck a headache on a friday night.....jesus...good thing I have no plans till tomorrow...

I had the nastiest migraine attack. I usually wallow in my own misery but this time my husband demanded I take some (mild) anti-migraine meds (after 12 hours, he knows it's useless before that). I got up, went to the shop, served some clients and "poof" it was gone.

LG, I feel for you. :-(

Isn't there now a school of thought that all non-tension, non-trauma headaches are parts of a single continuum?

nath, i get migraines but i find if i take 4 Advil (ibuprofen - has to be the liquid gel version) in the very beginning stages, then eat a slice of bread, I can usually stop it before it starts. the ones i wake up with are the ones that take a day + to get rid of.

i get really bad caffeine headaches and its the only reason i wont stop drinking coca cola. i cant drink coffee or tea because the former smells like poop and the latter smells like pee to me. also i found that when i drink a lot of water i get very bad headaches. some claim this is because the caffeine is getting flushed out. maybe?

bread? anyway i take migracaps which seem to help. shld check the contents tbh.

yeah for me pills dont work well without eating something bready straight after. you should try it. only has to be a bite.

I have decided to try and cut back my fairly mild caffeine intake because I feel ragged and headachey too often and am always mentally trying to balance this complex set of self-justifying superstitions that in my mind explain each given headache as the cause of some other unlikely set of things - ....so anyway I'm taking caffeine out of the equation, or trying to. Have been at a large-ish thing of coffee in the morning and a 12oz coke at lunch for months now. Now just doing the small coffee in the morning and no coke. this is day two and i can feel warm, buzzing things melting in the upper back of my skull. Everything else is moving more slowly, like it takes my eyes longer to get to what I want to look at. Further bulletins as events warrant.

how did you progress with this, DC?

i used to have 2 cups of tea per day, then a few months back i brought it down to one a day. now for various reasons there's one evening a week i need to be caffeine-free (i need to be supercalm, no stress or edginess that i get from post-tea drink), so for the past 2 weeks i've quit caffeine completely. feel quite good but lacking some get-go. what i'm wondering is could i drink one cup of tea 3 or 4 days per week and then be caffeine-free on the day in question but not suffer any withdrawal effects?

I successfully balanced out after a week or two, and then took up a traveling engagement where my only shred of sanity derived from multiple daily cappucinos etc. Oops. I rationalize this by saying that part of this time was in Italy where it would be a sin not to drink the coffee.

Am totally unsure what my intake is now b/c I am in India and the coffee products are just completely different, probably pretty low on the overall but still irksomely dependent on it, like I NEED that lunchtime Coke. Damn.

I have decided as a test to not drink any coffee/tea at all today. I usually have a LOT of caffeine.

So far I have a massive headache. Like behind my eyes throbbing. HOWEVER my concentration seems to be a slightly better. I usually wake up, drink a coffee and then have my most productive couple of hours but today I had a shitty first hour or so and then have kind of evened out and been working for longer than I would without issues. I have also been extremely hungry and have eaten loads (including a full massive breakfast which I NEVER normally do unless hungover).

For the first time in my coffee-drinking life I've been living with someone who owns a coffee maker (and a nice one), also he gets free beans from work so I've totally gotten hooked on a regular morning cup. Eek. BUT...he is soon going to change to a job in an ice-cream factory, so I need to start dialing back to tea, which will be healthier for me anyway. I love coffee but it really does throw me into a kind of too-buzzed-to-actually-do-much mode sometimes, as opposed to a pleasant morning lift.

The real issue is how I will survive all the free ice cream.

this guy sounds amazing

about 10 years ago i had to go a whole day without coffee when visiting a customer site.
the headache by the end of the day was beyond belief.
had to lie in a dark room for hours to recover.
someone told me the next day it was caffeine withdrawl, so i decided to quit there and then.
this was followed by 3 days of sweats/pains/fever/headaches .. the works.
it was f*cking awful.
not touched coffee/tea/coke since ..

and do you feel better for it?

a lot.
used to be a lot more stressed/wired and couldn't sleep easily.
now i have no such troubles.

I have been getting headaches from too much caffeine lately as well. It's probably well time I quit. I drink way too much.

Last time I quit caffeine I had a head ache for like 2 weeks.

I drink basically one double espresso per day. If I skip a day, I haven't really noticed any adverse effects. This wasn't the case when I drank bucket-loads of coffee.

yeah I don't think I'm ready to just totally quit yet. I feel pretty terrible currently. At some point I'm going to have to quit as it's really fucking with my sleep.

also. DECAF. what's the deal?

Don't drink coffee after a certain point in the day and for God's sake don't drink decaf

I haven't had caffeine since about 9 this morning, but I'm still on the verge of teeth-grinding.

Caffeine might not be the best self-medication for stress.

Wow, this whole caffeine withdrawel ordeal sounds like a migraine attack. lol.
I have lowered my caffeine intake. Much less coffee and (sugarless) coke.
Not that it will ward off migraine, but one can only hope. Also, uh, I love tea. :-)
Better on my stomach as well.

i just went to my psychiatrist complaining of sleeplessness and major anxiety

she said only one or two cups of coffee in the morning and no caffeine of any sort after 2 pm

So I spent a couple days with some sort of vomiting bug and unable to ingest pretty much anything, much less caffeinated beverages, so I'm going to try kicking. I've been keeping hydrated and taking regular doses of ibuprofen since my stomach calmed down and for the most part I'm good...so far? Worried that the pure evil hasn't really come on.

Trying cold turkey from lots of cups of coffee every day. 2 hours into the day, I don't quite feel like I'm here at the moment. eek.
your experiences/ pep talks would be very welcome.

It sucks. Really bad. Took me a few weeks to be normal again.

worth doing though?

by which I mean, are you fitter, happier, richer, chiller now?

I went back! So I can't say.

aaaaaaaagh fuck me

halp

The answer is more caffeine

I'M TRYING MY DUDE

TMI

lol

tried going all of last week with no coffee, just to see if i could do it. i did fine for four days, then woke up on friday with a pretty shitty headache. so i guess the answer's no. :(

i heard that can make your own caffeine by smoking aspirin

Surprised I haven't posted itt before today?

I quit coffee one summer and for about a week had the worst headaches

what was the first cup of coffee like, after the withdrawal?

god, i love coffee. that first cup of the morning feels like returning home to the Shire

http://i.imgur.com/qHNA8ww.gif

exactly

My mum came to stay with us over the summer, and she was giving me shit about drinking so much coffee (2 per day) and relying on caffeine to get through the day. I pointed out that she has at least 5 cups of tea a day and probably surpasses my daily caffeine intake twice over. It had literally never occurred to her that she had caffeine regularly, I basically blew her mind with this. She then promptly went out and replaced her regular teabags with decaf. Then the for the next couple of days she kept saying "Gosh I'm so tired" "Hmm I just can't shake this headache" and finally I asked her, did you switch over to the decaf gradually or just all at once? And she said, all at once, and then was incredibly surprised to realise she was having withdrawals. She also made my dad switch to decaf, cold turkey, without telling him. He thought he was getting the flu.

yeah cold turkey felt like death for me, flu-like symptoms

basically i decided that life is too short to fuck with zero coffee

Yeah, I can't even remember why I stopped that one time. Temporary insanity.

coffee is so great it can bring me to tears. luckily i have a pretty good natural stop mechanism. 2-3 cups in the morning max, nothing after noon. if i'm exercising regularly wiredness isn't a problem, sometimes i even skip a day. i gave up alcohol so i'm at floor zero in the vice department afaic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl85BBv1yl0

I have myself dialed in at 1 strong cuppa per morning, maybe one in the afternoon

cuppa?

Term of art

awful phrase, english people and their fucking shit tea

that thing english ppl do when they disparage 'english ppl'

dont hate on the cuppa

noxious filth mostly made out ofdust tea, skimmed milk and enough sugar that a spoon could stand upright in it

http://youtu.be/r5XX9LX2es4

the turned out to be the onset of a headcold fyi

does anyone else switch between tea and coffee when one doesn't give the same kind of buzz after a while? seems to work, something to do w/ the way caffeine is release iirc

a spoon could stand upright in it

i once did this in a terrible poem ca. freshman year to describe the strength of coffee. at denny's. wrong on so many levels. level one being that i'd never had coffee before.

xp i do that

I have no stopping mechanism whatsoever and drink a hogshead of coffee every day. It's grebt.

And great for you (as is caffeine).

The answer is more caffeine

i finally realized that the answer is not more caffeine, it's water. i feel like this is a sign of adulthood.

i tried not drinking coffee today to see what would happen and i feel like garbage. gonna continue this detox. see where it leads

I've been jumping all over the place - tea one day, cafe au lait the next, then just a coke today. It's fucking me up. Munching dark chocolate now to try and balance things out.

yeah i need to balance things out. i have a bunch of healthy food in my fridge... i think i am just going to eat that and stay away from cafes, with their coffee and almond croissants and cheese danishes. also i am going to take a break from alcohol.

^^^^

why

this sucks, bring back shake shack treezy

i finally realized that the answer is not more caffeine, it's water. i feel like this is a sign of adulthood.

― festival culture (Jordan)

yes more water

with more caffeine in it

to the solubility limit

why

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Want to see if I'll feel better. Feeling a weird serenity this morning, but it feels fragile. If someone sits next to me on the bus rn I'd probably become annoyed.

i tried not drinking coffee today to see what would happen and i feel like garbage.

By coincidence I did this on a whim on Monday (the water was off in the office so I couldn't have one anyway at first and then for some reason I thought hey why not give it up for a bit and see if I feel any different).

I gave in about half an hour ago. I was OK-ish on Monday but I was a bit hungover (which normally would probably prompt me to drink more coffee) which seemed to distract me. Yesterday I felt like shit and today I felt even worse. I don't even drink that much coffee, 2-3 cups a day. I couldn't concentrate on work at all and we're on an important project so I decided randomly trying to give up caffeine is not a good idea after all.

you whiny ass punks need to smoke some fuckin cigarettes

in college i would smoke cigarettes, drink lots of coffee, and i had an adderall script. i felt generally worse all the time. caffeine in the only stimulant left in my repertoire.

i really feel fine now, except that i am craving coffee, but this sense of desire or light deprivation is not unpleasant. hope the headache doesn't come back.

i'm totally fine with having caffeine every. black tea is pretty perfect, enough to wake me up but not enough to make me feel cracked out. i enjoy coffee occasionally, i've had some the past few days and i feel pleasantly wired. slept okay last night too.

alcohol is great and is as much part of closing my day as caffeine is in opening the day.

coffee/tea + alcohol + weed are pretty much the only substances i need and love all three, feel pretty good how much i use them, i don't feel like any of them run my life even if i enjoy them a lot

"i'm totally fine with having caffeine everyday"

i'd be down for some mushrooms or other psychedelic but it being a dad it does not seem like there would every be an opportunity apart from some weekend getaway w/ friends, doesn't seem likely to happen anytime soon

i just drank a whole pot of coffee. want more. been craving cigarettes lately too but i quit 5 years ago and fuck getting back in that racket.

probably just need yoga + meditation