What sporting result has been the hardest for you to get over?

The impulse is to say Italy losing to France in the final of Euro 2000, Del Piero missing an estimated 74 chances to kill the game off, Wiltord scoring with the last kick of the game, and then fucking Trezeguet, of all people, scoring the winner in extra time. Set us back six years, that result did.

That one time Tim went out in the quarters, I was inconsolable for a week

Celtic examples = too numerous to mention

The no-contest between the Godfather and the Blue Blazer was also a particularly difficult time for me

That one time Tim went out in the quarters, I was inconsolable for a week

-- That mong guy that's shit, Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:47 (52 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

Thought you would have gone for the Dusty Finish to HHH/Jericho on RAW back in 2001.

lol xp

Watford 3 Wolves 0

Helicopter Sunday was tough, as was losing the UEFA Cup Final in '03.

Helicopter Sunday was tough,
-- onimo, Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:51 (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

^^^before I Googled this, thought you were zinging Matthew Harding.

lol

lol me too

Being a supporter of 'Cups for cock-ups' Manchester City, there are plenty to choose from. The obvious one is the relegation to the third tier in 1998. I was miles away on a beach in Brazil listening to the World Service, and proceeded to get blind drunk to try and pretend it wasn't really happening. the reality only really sank in when I went to my next home game, a 1-1 draw with Chesterfield. Grim.

England going out of the World Cup is always a desolate moment as well, as it only comes around once every four years.

francisco cabrera

david volek

Losing an epic ping-pong game to my younger brother, when I was 13.

What onimo said. I think Helicopter Sunday was the worse of the two though. The weekend after Seville, losing the league on goal difference with Alan Thompson missing a penalty to rub salt in the wounds was a fucker as well.

Helicopter Sunday was tough, as was losing the UEFA Cup Final in '03.

Replayed game vs Rapid Vienna = most depressing game of football ever

Penn State and, later, Ohio State beating all-time great University of Miami football teams for the College Nat'l Championship.

Thought you would have gone for the Dusty Finish to HHH/Jericho on RAW back in 2001.

Man, that was really pathetic, it's true

Replayed game vs Rapid Vienna = most depressing game of football ever

Aye that was pretty fucking horrible. I was only 13 at the time. I remember the sense of outrage more than the games.

Knocked the stuffing out of Celtic for years after

I usually get over Scotland and Celtic defeats quite quickly, and can often find excuses to justify the defeats, but aargggh, Helicopter Sunday makes me angry and sad even now.

as far as Old Word sports go:

Cov being relegated at Villa Park of all places, losing after being 2-0 up at the half.

losing on pens vs Germany in the Euro 96 semis, mostly because after that Holland game i'd let down my protective shield of cynicism and had started to Believe. Uri Geller, why did you powers abandon us?!

biggest disappointment in rugby may actually have been tihs past weekend's collapse against Wales. maybe i'm just feeling that most keenly because it's so recent.

i'm inured to failure by the England cricket team so that has never been crushing, and tho i keep up with the results for Warwks but i'm not all that vested in them.

Old Word = Old World

I think the elephant in the room for most of us is the Cincinatti Tent Pegs' amazing comeback to hypercock Los Angeles Brain Hemorrhage in the preliminary final of the 2001 etc etc

Cov being relegated at Villa Park of all places, losing after being 2-0 up at the half

there is only Juan (one) Pablo Angel

Chelsea relegated via play-offs in 88, with pitch invasion to add to the shame. Only top flight side to ever get relegated via play-offs!

Also, losing FA Cup quarter-final replay to Sunderland 2-1 in last minute in 92. Was convinced that was the best chance i'd ever get to see Chelsea in a final.

England's exit in Germany was well rough, altho by the time Henry scored against Brazil I did feel a bit better. All in all the shootout defeats in '96 and '98 felt worse to me (but I had been even more naive/delusional about success then). At the time England's last game at Old Wembley was horrible too (but eventually made up for). National team-based answers seem quite boring tho.

National team-based answers seem quite boring tho.

-- blueski, Thursday, 7 February 2008 14:05 (4 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

^^^Maybe this, but then again "Penalty shootout elimination in the 2004 Division three play offs to Mansfield" makes me seem small.

Going out of Euro 96 as a result of the England v Holland thing was probably harder than watching us getting beat off England. Well, it stopped "getting beat off England" being the biggest disaster of that tournament.

Dom, I saw NTFC get beat 1-0 by a late goal against Grimsby at Wembley in a Div 2 paloff final in 1998(?). as an honorary Cobbler it was a try experience in a number of different ways. i als saw them get knocked out of the LDV Vans at Turf Moor. heady times, those. difficult, but not quite the hardest results to get over.

that's barely fucking legible.

I think this game is my definitive answer:

Rangers 2 Dundee United 0 (Ibrox Park, 7/5/97)

I think that'd be as a direct result of travelling through Duston to get to Sixfields, spending time in that area of N'pton actually ruins your ability to write English.

xp

Dom, I saw NTFC get beat 1-0 by a late goal against Grimsby at Wembley in a Div 2 paloff final in 1998(?). as an honorary Cobbler it was a try experience in a number of different ways. i als saw them get knocked out of the LDV Vans at Turf Moor. heady times, those. difficult, but not quite the hardest results to get over.

-- Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 7 February 2008 14:11 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

Also, this match didn't bother me because we would have had our skirts lifted up if we'd have got promoted that year, Derby's points performance 07/08 would have been about three times as many ours.

i can believe that, having seen them play. my mate made us stay behind in the stands at Wembley looking grim and depressed 'cos he wanted to get on telly.

Although lol at the Chronicle and Echo at the time being all "Well, Northampton has a top flight rugby side and a top flight cricket side, why not a top flight football side?" I think they illustrated this article with a photo of John Frain, thus answering their own question.

Team Europe losing to Team USA in Weber Cup 2007 after throwing away a 3 match lead losing 5 matches in a row

i was really fucked off about Linford Christie's two false starts in Atlanta ("just let him sprint with them anyway!").

Italy vs South Korea, 2002
Bradford beating Liverpool to stay up the day Wimbledon (who had done themselves no favours losing to Southampton) got relegated.

Becker 2-6 7-6 6-4 7-6 Agassi (from 2-6 1-4), 1995 Wimb sf was pretty sickening. Untrammelled genius demolition of the Leimen Lech for an hour then it all started to unravel.

Man City 3-1 Everton, FAC r6 replay, March '81 upset me hugely. We'd beaten Arsenal, Liverpool and Southampton and I actually thought we were going to win it. Paul Power lobbed a comically out-of-position Jim McDonagh for City's late equaliser at Goodison on the Saturday and then we capitulated to three quick goals in the second half at Maine Road. On the way home from the first game, I remember hearing Gordon Lee on the radio just before we went into the Wallasey tunnel: "Three drawn cup-ties today - I doubt the replays will all go the way of the home team." Way to go, Gordon - banking on the law of averages to keep us in the Cup and, oh, he was wrong anyway.

This season's Goodison derby was the angriest I've been after a game in a long time.

If I supported Everton this season's Goodison derby would probably have been the most angry I had ever been about anything

15/12/96 Giuseppe Meazza, San Siro
INTER 3 4 SAMPDORIA

Branca (12) Montella (7)
Berti (42) Montella (56)
Branca (46) Franceschetti (85)
Mancini (88)

followed a couple of months later by...

02/02/97 Giuseppe Meazza, San Siro
MILAN 2 3 SAMPDORIA
Weah (37) Mancini (1)
Weah (57) Mihajlovic (74)
Carparelli (79)

Blimming Samp. I support neither of the Milanese teams, but have a fondness for both because I saw them so regularly. Of course If I was a Sampdoria fan it'd be a different story.

Fortunately my best Italian team, Atalanta, whopped them 4-0 a few weeks later.

Sorry for the shite formatting there. You'll gather that I watched healthy leads disappear in both cases.

FA Cup Final 2003. Quite probably the only time a sporting event has actually made me cry.

^^^made me cry as well, I had £30 on Arsenal to win 2-0 with Ljungberg scoring first.

"DANIEL AMOKACHI... AGAIN!!!"

FA Cup semi-final, 1994.

I'd spent that whole season convinced we were going to beat Man Utd in the final with Klinsmann scoring the winner. It hurt for months.

1995, Matt. Sorry 'bout that.

(Still, the quarterfinal at Anfield was a beautiful thing, eh?)

Oh yes. The comeback against Southampton was fun as well.

Actually I'm not sure if it's FA Cup 94 or Gareth Southgate missing in Euro 96. That hurt more than any World Cup.

ARGH 95 YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.

The impulse is to say Italy losing to France in the final of Euro 2000

yeah mine is just before that. heh, the Netherlands missing 2 (!! aaaaaargh) penalties during regular time (semi-final) and another ZILLION in the penalty shoot-out. Jeez..

I was glad Wiltord scored the equalizer though, I had a bet on that. $$ :0

Milan last year was hard enough. Still wish they could have won the CL again, would have been amazing.

Not so much a result, but I do often think of the year Liverpool were 5 points clear at Christmas under Roy Evans. They looked good enough to win the league.

As for an actual game that stands out as upsetting and infuriating, the time when Chelsea came from 2-0 down to beat us 4-2 in the FA Cup was particularly bad.

I forget what age I was, possibly too old to have football posters on my wall, but I ripped them down in fury when Zola got the third or fourth goal, one of those amazing curled shots he used to do.

x-post just remember internationals, that's a whole other can of worms.

IRELAND LOSING TO SPAIN ON PENALTIES 2002, we really deserved to win that game, jesus. Ireland conceding last minute against Macedonia to fail to qualify for (I think) Euro 2000.

lol @ grown men "getting over" a game. direct your emotions at your ladyfolk, people!

^^^I've never been prouder of Italy playing unattractive 10-men-behind-the-ball Catennacio as much as I have in that game.

xxp

oh and this..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1640000/images/_1641519_rockthebaby300.jpg

I hate Brazil winning anyway whatever the occasion.

OTM

^this

Especially considering 94 and 02 Brazil sides are easily the worst two teams to ever win the World Cup

losing 4-0 at home to fulham under hoddle in ?2003? was pretty hard to take. took months to get over.

the time when Chelsea came from 2-0 down to beat us 4-2 in the FA Cup was particularly bad.

This is my favourite game ever of course. Everton beating Spurs 4-1 might be No. 2. So, you know, one man's loss etc.

I don't think I'll EVER get over France losing to Italy during the final of WC06 (especially, the amazing save from Buffon on Zidane's header in the last minutes... just before Zidane's last move...).

although many many republic games, starting with the dutch in 1994 and pretty much going from there.

I have seen grown men cry at Giants Stadium.

many many republic games, starting with the dutch in 1994 and pretty much going from there

well there was 1 vice versa occassion.. qualifiers 2002. I don't even remember the score, but a drama anyway

a totally different one, no one will remember.. Martin Verkerk a totally unknown Dutch tennisplayer reaching the final of Roland Garros and then dramatically losing it. (Before the finaly he beat favourite Coria easily)

I don't think I'll EVER get over France losing to Italy during the final of WC06 (especially, the amazing save from Buffon on Zidane's header in the last minutes... just before Zidane's last move...).

-- AleXTC, Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:13 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

FYI, despite the second post on this thread, I wouldn't swop 2000 for 2006 for the world.

oh and FA Cup 2005 arsenal won having had 0 shots on target.

This past Sunday, because I live in Giants country and can't stand them. Their fans in my office have been pretty goddamn smug.

Also, '85 Bears losing to Miami, only blemish on a perfect season.

The 1998 Vikings.

I hate Brazil winning anyway whatever the occasion

care to elaborate?

I accept the point about Brazil's 1994 team. The 2002 team, on the other hand, was terrific - incredibly fluid and dynamic.

The most upset I've ever been over Ireland is their playoff defeat against Turkey for Euro 2000. The pitch aggro with both fans and players was like salt in the self-inflicted wound.

The 2002 team, on the other hand, was terrific - incredibly fluid and dynamic.

dude they had 3 amazing players but a highly volatile defence ready to be punished by a team with enough balls (npi) - unfortunately England lacked said balls but luckily so did Germany.

care to elaborate?

The endless gallons of shit spoken and written about Brazilian football, Brazilian footballers, Brazilian football fans, esp. come the World Cup... give us a break

I love watching Brazilian football despite the media's tedious, cliched approach to it.

As for the Brazil team of 2002, in addition to the 3 Rs, they had a midfield of Kleberson, Juninho and Gilberto holding and keeping it moving, plus Edmilson playing it out from the back. Not to mention the wing backs.

I love watching Brazilian football

You prefer non-contact sports?

take out 2 of the 3 R's and i think Belgium could've beaten them

^F'real. England would have beaten them if Sven hadn't got bored during the half-time team talk as well.

i reckon belgium can beat any team if they had ronaldinho and rivaldo

Problem not in their current states.

Unless they could tempt Marc Degryse back out of retirement.

I love watching female Brazilian samba dancers. Yowza

I love watching female Brazilian samba dancers. Yowza

i would rather play a contact sport with them amirite?

losing to Brazil that time did suck balls - the Ronaldinho goal, being drunk and sad at the pub first thing in the morning and calling in sick to work* so we could drink more and console ourselves. and play darts.

* = officially least-convincing sickness absence ever

1995 Stanley Cup finals

I didn't mind losing to Brazil that much. at least they didn't make us go thru extra time and penalties at 7 in the morning.

England's narrow exits from major tournaments in 86, 90, 96, 98, 04 and 06 were all pretty hard to take, but I think 86 and 96 really stick out, 1996 because for the only time ever in my life we *really* looked like we were going to win something and the whole mood of the country was fantastic for about 10 sunny days and then it was all ripped away by the Germans again *on my bloody birthday*, 1986 just for the burning sense of injustice following the most blatant and iconic bit of cheating ever.

In terms of Man Utd it has to be the inglorious fuck up of April 1992. At the start of the month United were top of the table, one point clear of Leeds and with two games in hand, and finally heading for their first title in 25 years. But at the crucial stage there was a fixture pile-up (four games in less than a week; five games in 11 days) and they managed to draw at Luton (who were about to get relegated) on the Saturday, lose at home to Forest (who got relegated the next year) on the Monday, lose at West Ham (who also got relegated) on the Wednesday, and then head to Anfield on the Sunday, knowing that Leeds had already beaten Sheff Utd with some freakish own goals in the early kick-off, to see Liverpool win 2-0, with Ian Rush finally scoring against United and tens of thousands of Scousers gloating that United would *never* win the league. I was shellshocked all summer after that.

Heheh LOL Ken's comment about Brazilian dancers + contact sport.

Belgium + 2 of the 3 Rs would be interesting. Maybe it's something that could be explored next time around.

What was interesting about the 2002 World Cup was that Brazilian fans were worried that Scolari would play dull pragmatic football, cf Parreira's 1994 team, but that simply didn't materialise. Call it non-contact sport if you like, Tom, but I loved it.

Martina Hingis' loss to Venus Williams in the 2000 US Open semis. she was

SO

CLOSE.

I'm talking more about Brazilian club football - which doesn't really resemble football very much at all (xp)

Brazilian club football more strongly resembles what flat racing would be like if all stable owners were required to snort twelve ounces of coke a day.

I love watching female Brazilian samba dancers. Yowza

You should consider moving to the UK, a lot of them come here looking for work

xxxpost

Dom, on the other hand, the euro 2000 final was one of my most amazing football moment (the scenario being so crazy, of course). I guess France "stealing" euro2000 and Italy "stealing" WC06, we're even, now ! (but euro08 pool games will be a new confrontation...).

Except Italy didn't steal WC06, France didn't deserve to win it

LOL Dom's comment.

As for Brazilian club football, they really don't take kindly to showboating over there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBXv5FISzjg.

"i would rather play a contact sport with them amirite?"

Fuck yeah

"1995 Stanley Cup finals"

Scotty Stevens baby. I loved that finals.

When Oklahoma lost the 1988 NCAA basketball finals to Larry Brown and Danny fucking Manning of the Kansas Jayhawks I cried and threw my OU tshirt into the fire. I was 9.

Clint Stoerner fumbling the ball and giving Tennessee a victory over Arkansas in what could've been an undefeated, national championship season.

http://smokeys-trail.com/98/stoerner98.jpg

France didn't deserve to win it

a bit unfair to say the least... France were dominating the second half by far and towards the end, Italy was nowhere to be seen...

(xpost)

mizzell - have you gone topless for the following 20 years?

no, but I haven't owned another oklahoma shirt since

a bit unfair to say the least... France were dominating the second half by far and towards the end, Italy was nowhere to be seen...

-- AleXTC, Thursday, 7 February 2008 16:34 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Over the course of the tournament, you'd be very hard pushed to claim that France were a better team than Italy, though.

Italy didn't exactly set the tournament alight, either. They were quite lucky against those giants of football Australia and the USA.

Italy were far better than France over the course of the tournament. France were mediocre throughout.

Italy didn't exactly set the tournament alight, either. They were quite lucky against those giants of football Australia and the USA.

-- Nasty, Brutish & Short, Thursday, 7 February 2008 16:41 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

Yeah, but we took Ukraine to the woodshed, didn't break a sweat against the Czechs and the Ghana, and did what the Argies couldn't, break down Germany with attacking, attractive, passing football. Australia parked their bus in front of the goal, and we probably would have beaten the US about 3-0 if it hadn't been for Di Rossi fucking about.

break down Germany with attacking, attractive, passing football

in the 119th minute, amirite?

That was a great game, don't remember France being involved in any in that tournament

Man, that was a great match

xp

in the 119th minute, amirite?

-- Nasty, Brutish & Short, Thursday, 7 February 2008 16:46 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

118th, don't you fucking shortchange Grosso, we won the world cup thanks to a PALERMO PLAYER.

http://www.csmgroup.net/MLB/images/2004_ALCS_lg.jpg

it took me a year and a half to really be able to watch baseball again

actually i sort of think this year's superbowl was karmic retribution for that sox win

ohio st over miami in 2003 national title, infamous phantom pass interference call

http://www.centralohio.com/ohiostate/football/season2002/gallery/fiestabowl/photo16.jpg

France were very good vs Spain and Brazil.

Euro 2000 final was fantastic - house full of people, all but one rooting for France. Wiltord and Trezeguet goals greeted like Portillo '97 x 2.

i think most Boston sports fans would've made a deal with the devil if it was winning a 4th super bowl against los gigantes versus beating the evil empire in spectacular fashion and going on to break the curse.

xxpost

ALCS 2003--luckily it only lasted a year!

Whenever I see replays of Gazza failing to connect with that cross against germany in 1996, nor Anderton's shot hitting the post and bouncing straight to Cupcake, I get a phycial wince of pain. I'm almost over that feeling now with 1990, mainly because they rarely show Chris Waddle hitting the post and it bouncing in the only place that neither him not Lineker could knock the rebound in.

Well, a bit harsh on France guys !
we beat spain 3-1 (one of the best teams that set on fire the pool games), we beat brazil 1-0 (favourite of the WC although they were burnt out)
we beat portugal 1-0 (also an amazing team but we were a bit lucky there...)
...
pretty good teams, I say...

adn we were better during the final. at least the second half and extra time.

J0rdan S = Skip Bayless

I am a Celtic supporter so basically yeah, all the things Celtic supporters have already said.

Also remember being at school the day that/the day after (can't remember when the game was played) Henrik broke his leg against Lyon. Real somber mood all throughout the school and one or two girls crying.

I only really casually support Scotland (thank fuck really) so no heartache there for me.

You still weren't as good as Italy (xxxp)

portugal ... an amazing team

... yes indeed, amazing that a team with a goalkeeper and ten midfield players got as far they did

In fact, Germany and Argentina were both better teams than France

J0rdan S = Skip Bayless

-- Pleasant Plains, Thursday, February 7, 2008 10:59 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

this is the most insulting thing anyone's ever said to me.

for real though, what's the connection? was he all bitchy after the game or something?

Whenever I see replays of Gazza failing to connect with that cross against germany in 1996, nor Anderton's shot hitting the post and bouncing straight to Cupcake, I get a phycial wince of pain.

ugh hell yes. i suppose this is worse than england not even having near misses like this against portugal in '06, which was just a horrible experience from start to end (both the game and the pubs i watched it in).

was he all bitchy after the game or something?

He's still bitching about it whenever he subs for Jim Rome.

xp: Germany and Argentina were both better teams than Italy, too, but it's a cup competition and Italy won when it mattered

well, pauleta isn't exactly bad at scoring goals ! (even with PSG, which says a lot about his skills !)
about France, there were teams that were better, more impressive, more fun to watch, etc during the WC but Italy wasn't one of them...

ah ok

i don't bitch about it now and rarely bitched at the time. i was always trying to tell anyone w/in earshot "hey we really blew the game by doing X", which didn't make it any harder to swallow.

Argentina and spain were the most impressive teams of the WC... but as Nasty said, that's not what matters in a cup competition... Italy and France are very similar teams actually. Italy had that little something that made them win but I wouldn't say they were better than France.

well, pauleta isn't exactly bad at scoring goals !

Pauleta isn't exactly good at scoring against good teams in big touranments, is he?

about France, there were teams that were better, more impressive, more fun to watch, etc during the WC but Italy wasn't one of them...

What's fun got to do with it? Listen, I'm a neutral and Italy were better and more impressive than France by light years

Well, since football is a sport but mainly a show now so fun in important, at least to me ! (some may say all the little tricks ronaldinho, c.ronaldo etc do is useless but I find it really entertaining, for instance).
as for Italy and France, "let's agree to disagree" !

Indeed, but here's hoping Scotland get France and not Italy in future qualifying tournaments!

Portugal were shite. Smart if cynical tactical approach against England in the QF but that's it.

I think Italy and Germany were totally matched in terms of quality, but with Germany better attacking and Italy better defending quelle surprise. France were actually very good beyond the group stage I thought, punching above their weight/greater than the sum of their parts as it were.

The parts were pretty damn good to be fair.

As for Pauleta, 47 goals in 88 games and all time best scorer for portugal, a team that went to semifinal in euro00, final in euro02 and semifinal in WC06... not too bad...

I put a bet on Portugal to win this Summer but I think they'll get beaten by either Germany or Croatia in the QF.

Obviously this means they will now beat Poland 4-0.

I mean I put the bet on ages ago, before the group draws.

Oh, let's not bring stats into it. *trying desperately not to mention David Trezeguet*

http://beefbagel.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/david-healy.jpg

One last thing about Italy : don't misunderstand me, I really like that team and find it good. Actually, I think they are better than France NOW... but that's mainly because our coach has a very interesting strategy consisting of not taking/using the best way the best players we have !

for euro08, except France, but that's the heart speaking, I think it will be either Italy, Portugal or Spain (and I hope it will be Portugal).

I'm backing Poland, if only because it'd be funny.

Portugal losing to Spain in the final would be possibly the funniest thing ever but it won't happen.

More footage of Cristiano Ronaldo crying please.

Come on Germany!!!

His horrible crying face doesn't do it for me anymore. You know he'll just come back even stronger. xp

No-one cries like David Trezeguet cries - let's have some more of that

i want Spain to win something for a change, maybe even on penalties for an ironic chuckle. them or Poland. definitely not France, Germany or Portugal, though. fuck those dudes.

I don't really care who wins, as long as it's not France. Or Portugal.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41873000/jpg/_41873488_tears_getty300.jpg

haha, was just googling for that!

How can you not hate that pair!

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_soccerblog/images/2007/06/12/henrytrez.jpg

I shouldn't but it's pretty lol !
I didn't realize their was so much hate towards France, though.

to see Liverpool win 2-0, with Ian Rush finally scoring against United and tens of thousands of Scousers gloating that United would *never* win the league. I was shellshocked all summer after that.

another brilliant day! remember it vividly as my brother probably beat me up after...

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s1/TheSteelersBlog/BrettHullNoGoal.jpg

buffalo sabres vs. dallas stars.

stanley cup final - bad call by refs. hull was clearly in the crease.

NO GOAL bumper stickers can still be seen on rusted out Ford Tempos in Western New York.

I didn't realize their was so much hate towards France, though.

There are Scots on this thread.

I don't hate France that much? Am I missing something? Should I?

Surprised no Liverpool fans have popped up yet to mourn the 1989 title decider against Arsenal. "It's up for grabs now" :-)

lol I was waiting for NO GOAL

http://www.angelfire.com/ia3/colts2/images/mayflowertruck.gif

Bu-but they beat us TWICE over the last months, how could they not like us !

... because you qualified and we didn't!

Damnit. It came through at first...

The Baltimore Colts, sneaking out of town in 1984. Just terrible.

buffalo hasn't recovered from a lot of things: the decline of the steel industry, the lackawanna six, rick james, and brett hull's infamous "goal."

so you should hate Italy more cos THEY beat you !

Hating every team who beats Scotland is just going to end up as rampant xenophobia

xpost

But you gave them hope, we did what was expected.

Hating every team who beats Scotland is just going to end up as rampant xenophobia

I don't hate Italy, they beat us fair and square! France were shit and still qualified!

if you were alive when France won the world cup you don't need a reason to dislike them as a footballig nation. possibly the least likeable group of players in any sport in my lifetime.

lol ailsa !

xp. If you weren't alive when France won the world cup you're 9 years old.

Where's that photo of Trezeguet waving four fingers in Gary Caldwell's face after France had gone 4-0 up in a friendly against Scotland?

This France hatred is not just scots-based then !

For those who mainly hate us because of Trezegoal, you can calm down as there are good chances he won't ever play for France again.

If you weren't alive when France won the world cup you're 9 years old.

that was a rhetorical device. you know, for emphasis. because i really disliked those dudes.

And for TomD, we beat Italy 3-1 during the qualifiers...

Did Trezeguet wave three fingers in Cannavaro's face?

Sorry, Tom, I was referring to AleXTC's suggestion that we should hate Italy as well, because hating on people who beat Scotland could get really boring.

Anyway, to cheer you up:

http://birdiesong.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/priceless.jpg

Ha ha, classic. What a sportsman and a gentleman M. Trezeguet is.

Max OTM.

Nothing will ever be worse than the 2004 ALCS. Nothing COULD ever be worse than the 2004 ALCS.

I don't hate Italy, they beat us fair and square!

You don't subscribe to Kerr's CHEATING BASTARD REF theory about the free kick at the end then?

Nah

When Muhammad Ali was stripped of his heavyweight title during the prime of his career. Fucking travesty.

I like France. I like Germany too, but they must never win anything again.

i dont know whose 2004 loss was worse, the yanks or the democrats

As per outernational footie regrets, mine are the WC-74 and WC-78 finals. I'm truly completely & utterly dissappointed that those were won by, well, those who won.

<i>I hate Brazil winning anyway whatever the occasion<i?
<i>care to elaborate<i/>

2 things..
1)the team never seems really good, just relying on the brilliance of, say, 3 players.

(and also, I know it's a paradox)
2)the fact that Brazil could probably send 16 teams to the world cup and still "up" the level.

(wait I could simplify that.. Brazil is ALWAYS the favourite.. and I always root for underdogs)

The Rose Bowl January 1, 1981 Michigan 23 Washington 16

I was 7 and remember crying my eyes out after

Sorry, brah.

aww

but now that i think about it washington won the next year so i got over it so what am i talking about.

i guess my answer is the year the mariners won 116 games and lost in the playoffs. who knows when they'll have a team like that again.

I don't hate France that much? Am I missing something? Should I?

I was going to post Trez doing his "4-0" hands at Gary Caldwell in response to this but you already posted it yourself.

When Muhammad Ali was stripped of his heavyweight title during the prime of his career. Fucking travesty.

Aye Ali was involved in a few fucking travesties, just ask Ken Norton. Twice.

Having thought about this, I think the answer might be Scotland vs Russia in WC82, Hansen and Miller collide. I was probably just still young enough to still have faith in Scotland ever achieving anything.

Hansen's a prick.

how is it decided that in some sports uk/gb will play nationally together (davis cup) while in others play as constituent parts (football)?

the more popular the sport, the more likely there will be national fragmentation

re the Trez 4-0 gesture - maybe he was provoked by some insult himself

Aye, but that just means I hate Trezeguet, not France.

some xposts

naw, he's just a cnut. probably. it's funny when Christian Dailly does it, not so funny when someone's doing it back to us.

I love France. Bixente Lizarazu man. The Pierre Littbarski of the nineties.

"but now that i think about it washington won the next year so i got over it so what am i talking about."

Screw you, i was and Iowa fan (and am now an alum). Damn, I remember some dude with a funny name (Napoeleon??) running rampant over the hawks.

All of mine are fairly recent, off the top of my head France’s loss to Italy in the World Cup finals, Detroit losing to Edmonton in the first round of the NHL playoffs, Detroit’s loss to Miami in the NBA eastern conference finals and a game from last week which I stil don’t want to talk about.

Argentina > France > Germany > Brazil > Italy.

Also, USA’s loss to England on the second day of last years Rugby Union World Cup. England looked like piss and we could’ve squeaked out a win if it were not for terrible skipping.

... Don't laugh.

Swap Italy with Germany and bump Brazil for Portugal. And there's always a place in my heart for Romania, Czech Republic and Bulgaria.

Oh I am all about the Eastern European nations illuminated by a genius or two.

I could say that I WILL be sad when Man U beats Lyon but I think I'm actually for ManU...although it's a close call since Benzema blows my mind.

i think it was the 1997 NBA playoffs, Lakers v. Jazz, kobe 1.0(like 10x more confident(!) and 1/10 as good as he would become) airballs the series away. they lost a lot during those years so it wasn't so much that, the jazz were just so evil empire at the time it was like uggghh. I guess the Lakers became that for the losers in the rest of the country but count them rings bitch!

98 Vikings loss to the Falcons i will never forget all the days of my life

i was a 9-yr-old red sox fan when bucky dent hit that home run in '78. actual tears. the only time i've ever cried because of baseball or any other sport.

(although the goddam '86 world series was a near second.)

"98 Vikings loss to the Falcons i will never forget all the days of my life"

That was Pats-esque. What a disaster, can Gary Andersen show his face in the Twin Cities?

The whole game was a series of failures for the Vikes. Andersen's first mistake of the season sealed the disaster, but didn't cause it.

No other single game in any sport haunts me as this one does. It breaks my heart thinking about it.

Super Bowl XXV. I cried and my mom made fun of me. I was 11.

you know, honestly

im not ashamed to say the 1998 vikings title game loss was one of the worst days of my life

the 'juan rincon game' against the yankees in the wild-card playoffs in 2004 was also horrible

pato, please

Today didn't happen, just so you know. Okay? Okay.

#1 seed Sonics getting swept by #8 seed Denver in round 1 of the 1994 playoffs.

the 1-1 draw between ireland and france and the henry handball in paris.

The Toronto Blue Jays provided two that were awful. In the '85 ALCS, they had a 3-1 lead on the Royals, all set for their first World Series; they ended up losing the seventh game on a wind-aided home run by Jim Sundberg. (Seriously--it looked like a shallow fly to right off the bat.) Then '87, when they went up on the Tigers by three-and-a-half with a week to go; they lost the last seven games of the season, all seven by one run, the last three in Detroit. It was Twilight Zone stuff. The '92-93 back-to-backs erased most of that trauma from memory, but not entirely; Toronto fans felt we had the best team in baseball in both '85 and '87. (There was some Twilight Zone stuff in '83, too, the first year they ever contended.)

Yeah that 5-0 humiliation 4 years ago at the hands of the Aussies was the worst, but actually has been made up by events currently taking place.

uefa cup final 03 :"(

I'd have thought the retaliatory nature of the last-gasp league win in 2008 would have tempered my earlier answer of 22nd May 2005. But no. Still hurts.

National team-based answers seem quite boring tho.

― blueski, Thursday, February 7, 2008 2:05 PM (2 years ago)

No no, the scarcity value makes these the only things worth devastation over surely? Clubs get another chance before you know it these days.

Scotland 0-0 Uruguay to go out of the 1986 World Cup. Because everything was set up for qualification - manageable defeats to Denmark and Germany, easy 16-out-of-24 progression scenario, Uruguay being crap, joke early red card - yet they produced nothing, weren't even up to going out with a whimper. Plus being young, you kind of get hopeful about these things.

By rights Scotland 0-3 Morocco in 1998 should have been worse - similar qualification odds, the illusion of momentum, utterly shit performance to the point of humiliation, babyish red card, realisation that never again can victory over an African side be expected, and that Scotland probably never ever going to play a single knock-out game of football now, desolate personal circumstances in being in a bar abroad and the only person who gave a toss about the boring game on the tiny screen - but the lols at Morocco's celebrations turning to shit when they found out about Norway's unlikeliest comeback v Brazil made up for it somehow.

Clubs get another chance before you know it these days.

ffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu :"(

athens olympics SF. justine henin d. anastasia myskina from 1-5 down in the third set. that would have been a guaranteed olympic medal for myskina - as it was she was so distraught she lost the bronze medal play-off, too - and would have elevated her career so much from a historical perspective - she could never have been dismissed as a one-slam wonder if she'd closed out that match. plus, she always said an olympic medal was one of her greatest dreams ;_;

the 1-1 draw between ireland and france and the henry handball in paris.

definitely. irritated me consistently for months, then a relapse when the world cup started.

haha yeah. Everton in the 95 fa cup also a good one. Getting fuck by clattenburg against utd doesnt really even surprise anymore, but pedro mendes stings sometimes