The 1980's science fiction movie poll

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Because I thought we did this already. I just took the list from [Removed Illegal Link], so I am not responsible for any bitching about what's left out.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
* Blade Runner (1982) 14
* Videodrome (1982) 6
* Brazil (1985) 6
* The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 6
* Repo Man (1984) 5
* E.T.: The Extraterrestrial (1982) 4
* Robocop (1987) 3
* Akira (1987) 3
* The Thing (1982) 3
* They Live (1988) 3
* Scanners (1981) 3
* Mad Max 2 (The Road Warrior) (1981) 3
* Dune (1984) 2
* Back to the Future (1985) 2
* Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (1982) 2
* The Quiet Earth (1985) 2
* The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension (1984) 2
* Predator (1987) 2
* Tron (1982) 2
* The Terminator (1984) 2
* The Dead Zone (1983) 1
* Battle Beyond the Stars (1980) 1
* Lifeforce (1985) 1
* Dreamscape (1984) 1
* Wargames (1983) 1
* Tremors (1989) 1
* Looker (1981) 1
* Trancers (Future Cop) (1985) 1
* Enemy Mine (1985) 1
* Short Circuit (1986) 0
* The Fly (1986) 0
* Slipstream (1989)0
* Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (1986) 0
* The Running Man (1987) 0
* Aliens (1986) 0
* Invaders from Mars (1986) 0
* The Hidden (1987) 0
* Innerspace (1987) 0
* The Fly II (1989) 0
* Millennium (1989) 0
* The Abyss (1989) 0
* Cyborg (1989) 0
* Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (1989) 0
* Alien Nation (1988) 0
* Watchers (1988) 0
* Communion (1989) 0
* Nightflyers (1987) 0
* Deepstar Six (1989) 0
* Leviathan (1989) 0
* The Blob (1988) 0
* Back to the Future Part II (1989) 0
* City Limits (1985) 0
* Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome (1985) 0
* Le Dernier Combat (The Last Battle) (1983) 0
* Return of the Jedi (1983) 0
* Twilight Zone - The Movie (1983) 0
* Forbidden World (1982) 0
* The Last Starfighter (1982) 0
* Android (1982) 0
* Altered States (1980) 0
* Outland (1981) 0
* Escape from New York (1981) 0
* Threshold (1981) 0
* Saturn 3 (1980) 0
* The Final Countdown (1980) 0
* Brainstorm (1983) 0
* Strange Invaders (1983) 0
* The Day After (1983) 0
* Flight of the Navigator (1985) 0
* D.A.R.Y.L. (1985) 0
* Cocoon (1985) 0
* Explorers (1985) 0
* Starman (1984) 0
* Liquid Sky (1983) 0
* Nineteen Eighty-four (1984) 0
* 2010 (1984) 0
* Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (1984) 0
* Runaway (1984) 0
* The Philadelphia Experiment (1984) 0
* Testament (1983) 0
* The Quatermass Conclusion (1980) 0


Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

Is Outland good? Should I watch it?

Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

This is hard, a lot of my favourite films of all time are on this list.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

Hmmm. Blade Runner, Terminator or Akira. I think BR will probably win this.

chap, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:51 (eighteen years ago)

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNE

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

blade runner and akira too awesome for their own good

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

The Quiet Earth is great and unloved, probably.

ledge, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

I cannot choose - too many near perfect films on this list. Best Cronenberg, best Carpenter, best Gilliam, Khaaaaaaaaan, Tron, Dune all way up there for me.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:54 (eighteen years ago)

wargames too close to home

tron actually about jesus

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:54 (eighteen years ago)

(oh and uh Bladerunner too duh)

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:54 (eighteen years ago)

Fuck it, maybe I'll just vote for Empire Strikes Back. Which is amazingly good, lest we forget.

chap, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

star wars better, ooh controversial, oh let's just not have that conversation.

ledge, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:55 (eighteen years ago)

star wars also not 80s lol

ledge, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

this is impossible.

besides the ones already mentioned, i am seriously considering The Thing.

Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:56 (eighteen years ago)

I narrowed it down to 25, but fuck it, I'm voting for Terminator. Blew my mind when I was 12.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

1980-1983: the golden age of 80s sci/fi

Sparkle Motion, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

I can totally understand the 'Star Wars better' argument, I just happen to prefer Empire.

xxxpost

chap, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

E.T.: The Extraterrestrial is the great film here, but I'm not sure I consider it science fiction.

And The Fly close behind it -- horror, I think.

Peter Berg will direct a new Dune, did you hear? Such fascination w/ such a boring book.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:57 (eighteen years ago)

i hope this turns into a 200 post thread with 0 votes.

Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

My short list is a lot like Shakey's - Fly, Brazil, Bladerunner, The Thing. I also have testosterone/adrenaline darkhorse candidates like Tremors and The Hidden to consider.

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

oh man morbius with the spielberg fanboy flame bait already

this is going to be fantastic

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

brazil is too criterion

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:00 (eighteen years ago)

reminder: none of the Star Wars are sci fi

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

Dune is a totally boring book - so what? people make great films from shitty source material all the time.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

okay I'll bite - Morbz what is this weird "sci-fi" criterion you seem to have that I'm sure no one else will agree with

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

i thought morbs would go right for "aliens (predator/the thing/terminator/star wars/robocop) isn't sci-fi."

xpost lolololol

Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:03 (eighteen years ago)

BTTF1/2 are awesome but you have to be able to vote for both together. gestalt zemeckis

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:04 (eighteen years ago)

BTTF 2 is horrid.

ledge, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

^^^^
Lies

chap, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

3 is pretty good except for the chitty-chitty-bang-bang ending.

ledge, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:05 (eighteen years ago)

BTTF 2 is horrid.

-- ledge, Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:05 PM (50 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

Is Outland good? Should I watch it?

-- Jordan, Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:47 AM (15 minutes ago)

yes it is and yes you should!

* Space Western
* Drugs
* Mining
* Space
* Corruption
* Futuristic
* Io
* Jupiter
* Marshal
* Moon
* Racquetball
* Violence
* Hologram
* Exploding Body
* Explosive Decompression

gff, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:06 (eighteen years ago)

The Thing, no question about it

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

You'd have to be pretty miserable not to be able to find something to enjoy in each of the BTTFs.

chap, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:07 (eighteen years ago)

sweet, gff. it was already pretty high up on my queue, but space racquetball puts it over the top (i'll overlook the lack of hoverboards).

Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:08 (eighteen years ago)

Brazil, easy.

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

what is this weird "sci-fi" criterion you seem to have that I'm sure no one else will agree with

I don't know! It's like obscenity to that dead Supreme Court justice, I just know it when I see it. Wrath of Khan is close enough, as eugenics and creation of 'artificial' life are at the core.

BTTF2 stunk, never saw 3.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not going to vote for They Live, but I would like to point out that it's great.

chap, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

ice pirates/spaceballs no show

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

this seems like a perfect time to plug my upcoming radio venture (with mark s!), a show about old SF short stories from 1935-1965 airing on Resonance FM 104.4 in London, on Wednesdays at 10pm. there'll be a web site, podcasts etc but we're still working on that part.

anyway, our very first show is going to be about "Who Goes There", the novella that was the basis for The Thing!

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

I remember that one! Written by John Campbell himself, no?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

tempted by liquid sky komedy vote

gff, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

Are you guys going to do "The Cold Equations," Tracer?

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

James - yes! it's really really good. I don't think Campbell himself ever really wrote any other stories of much note, but that one was a doozy.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

buckaroo bonzai, worth re-watching?

Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

Vincent Schiavelli, RIP.

i hope this turns into a 200 post thread with 0 votes.
I don't know if I'll be finished reading the list of candidates in time for the voting deadline.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

woops xpost - I don't know, we've only sketched out the first 3 or 4 shows so far. I like "Cold Equations" a lot although i always get annoyed by the close tolerances for fuel necessary to make the story work - does that bother you too? I realize it is somewhat small of me to pick that nit.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:16 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, surely the emergency craft wouldn't even take off if there was too much weight on board.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

i only saw blade runner for the first time last week, so that has to get my vote.

darraghmac, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, like maybe the guy made a mistake in his calculations and realized it later: Oops, sorry! Or like his bosses were really stingy with his allocation and didn't take into account such contingencies. And if that was the case, why didn't they weigh the ship before takeoff?
(xxpost)

Looks like y'alls show is intentionally pre-Dangerous Visions, which is probably for the best.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:19 (eighteen years ago)

let's not forget jessica harbl's #11 movie of all time:

11. Enemy Mine – White spaceman and Louis Gossett Jr. - looking like an Admiral Ackbar knockoff or Miles Davis with severe sunburn peel - on a desolate barren wasteland planet for two hours. Cue “The Living Years.”

gff, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:20 (eighteen years ago)

HA easy i thought this would be. Tron I ticked. Then remembered Wargames. shitting hell.

Ste, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

The Thing I always considered more of a riff on the early parts of At The Mountains of Madness...

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

The only way to win, Ste, is not to play.

ledge, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

ROAD WARRIOR

John Justen, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:22 (eighteen years ago)

this is pretty hard. i think i'll vote for robocop because blade runner is already getting a ton of votes. i have to get morbiusy on y'all and say that the thing is more of a horror movie than a sci fi movie.

n/a, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:23 (eighteen years ago)

Robots = scifi
Spaceships = scifi

ledge, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

Also, I always considered if it was made in the 1980s and I liked it, then it must be sci-fi.

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

aliens on earth = horror, aliens in space = sci-fi?

Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

aliens = scifi

ledge, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

and maybe horror too

ledge, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i don't really think Road Warrior is Sci-fi, but it's post-apocalyptic so i guess that qualifies sort of not really

John Justen, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

mostly i just know it isn't going to get any votes, and it's AWESOME

John Justen, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

future = scifi

lol this is easy

ledge, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

same for the Day After.

xp

Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:26 (eighteen years ago)

As I've said on another thread, I see sci-fi as more of window dressing for a variety of generic story structures than a genre in itself (in movies at least, literature is a different matter) - Blade Runner = detective movie, Aliens = war film, etc. Few SF movies actually give that much of a shit about conceptual matters. So, yeah, to all intents and purposes if it's got aliens and robots and what have you, it's SF as far as I'm concerned.

chap, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

ok, where's the 'science' in Road Warrior aside from the world having been nuked? It's just a great biker movie.

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

fuck it, i'm voting for enemy mine

gff, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

* Isolation
* Pepsi
* Identifying With The Enemy
* Based On Novella
* Alien
* Intolerance
* Futuristic
* Racism
* Slavery
* Tolerance
* Bonding
* Space
* Friendship
* Survival
* Eaten Alive
* Monster
* Uncle Nephew Relationship
* Fighter Pilot
* Football
* Meteor
* Mining
* Narrated
* Planet
* Pregnancy
* Reptilian
* Scavenger
* Severed Ear
* Snow
* Space Station
* Spaceship
* Stranded
* Alien Baby
* Alien Slave
* Male Pregnancy
* Shot In The Neck
* Multiple Monsters

gff, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

I'm voting for The Dead Zone, for the movie itself and for the sketch on SNL where Christopher Walken reprises that role, playing the new guy at the office who shakes your hand and foretells your future -"You're going to get in the elevator at 11:45, go downstairs to the deli and come back with a paper bag holding a tuna salad sandwich and a blueberry yogurt."

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:32 (eighteen years ago)

Blade Runner = detective movie, Aliens = war film

nonononononononononononono

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

I think Stanislaw Lem wrote a article (or a book) complaining about that phenomenon.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:35 (eighteen years ago)

an article

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

what I wd call a "hard" sci-fi film is Andromeda Strain (diff decade)

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

Alien = a nightmare that womanly affection and womanly reproduction have become separated, resulting in ruthless and uncontrollable proliferation

Aliens = the same, except with a sledgehammer rather than an icepick

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:37 (eighteen years ago)

(that first line is cribbed from Noah Berlatsky's "fecund horror" essay, which is brilliant and which everyone should read)

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:39 (eighteen years ago)

Andromeda Strain is suspense. All the "science" in it is bogus; the screenwriter made it up.

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:40 (eighteen years ago)

as screenwriters are apt to do! (Geo Lucas too)

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:41 (eighteen years ago)

All the "science" in it is bogus; the screenwriter made it up.

haha, 99% of sci fi to thread.

xp

Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

Robots = scifi
Spaceships = scifi

So genre all comes down to servants and rides

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:43 (eighteen years ago)

people get excited for the remake of Last Starfighter coming in 2010!

mizzell, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

Mad Max 2 (The Road Warrior) (1981)
Tron (1982)
Videodrome (1982)
The Thing (1982)
Blade Runner (1982)
Repo Man (1984)
The Terminator (1984)
Dune (1984)
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension (1984)
Aliens (1986)
Predator (1987)
Akira (1987)
They Live (1988)

^^ here's the short list

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

All the "science" in it is bogus; the screenwriter made it up.

haha, 99% of sci fi to thread.

Some variant of Sturgeon's Law.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

the science of "the black destroyer" or "the great engine" by a.e. van vogt is completely made up and completely awesome

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

i would say that Tron actually counts as sci-fi

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:45 (eighteen years ago)

Videodrome and Dune also

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:46 (eighteen years ago)

is allegory science?

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:47 (eighteen years ago)

isn't all sci-fi allegory?

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

I think we should explore the genre = service and transportation idea further

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

i don't think there's much to that idea

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

transportation = easy way of establishing setting?

moonship journey to baja, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

Vincent Schiavelli, RIP.

Holy crap, I did not know this. : (

kingkongvsgodzilla, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 16:54 (eighteen years ago)

that fecund horror essay is good but not recommended lunchtime reading.

Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 17:25 (eighteen years ago)

I can't wait until the 90s poll. Johnny Mnemonic ftw.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

repo man = dune = bttf

remy bean, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:41 (eighteen years ago)

i'm going with repo man

remy bean, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

This is going to be a battle of the sympathy votes

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:43 (eighteen years ago)

ha. 90's is going to be like demolition man vs star trek vi vs twelve monkeys.

Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:44 (eighteen years ago)

Matrix 2: A Rave in Space

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

also didn't abyss come out 1990?

remy bean, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

servant: live-in girlfriend
ride: shitty car

genre - Apatow

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

there should a johnny mnemonic vs stargate subpoll, though.

xp

Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

also didn't abyss come out 1990?

imdb says aug. '89.

Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

Repo Man wins any poll, every time.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

it's probablly the most sci-fi offering up there

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:51 (eighteen years ago)

I find it kinda neorealist

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

same difference?

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

RO
BO
COP

David R., Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

there are a few of these I haven't seen, but I've got to do this in stages, picking from this list:

Altered States, The Quatermass Conclusion, The Road Warrior, Escape from New York, Tron, Videodrome, The Thing, Blade Runner, Brainstorm, The Dead Zone, Liquid Sky, The Terminator, Dune, Buckaroo Banzai, Lifeforce, The Quiet Earth, Brazil, Enemy Mine, Aliens, The Fly, Predator, Robocop, They Live, The Blob

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 19:56 (eighteen years ago)

stuff can be scifi AND something else, you autistics

s1ocki, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

saw the complete mini-series version of quatermass conclusion for the first time a few months ago, and it's worth seeing the whole thing

And the sun turns to vomit

'Brainstorm' seemed way too sentimental the first time I saw it in the same way that 'Silent Running' just often seems ridiculous, but with hindsight, this film has some brutally fucked up scenes it and the overall sentiment really is kind of ambitious and beautiful

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

Silent Running is not at all ridiculous!

(and s1ocki OTM)

Ste, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

the only true sci fi film ever made was Walter Mitty you fule

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

a draw between The Fly and KHAAAAAAHHHHHNN!!. I won't count E.T. and The Terminator.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

i'm not going to vote for it or anything, but let it be known that Predator is awesome.

Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

i'm thinking that about 80% of that list is awesome, the more i look at it

John Justen, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

its kind of more challenging to predict which films will get no votes (Short Circuit? D.A.R.Y.L.?)

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:48 (eighteen years ago)

2010 (sorry, AC Clarke, way to take the mysticism out)

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

flight of the navigator?

Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:55 (eighteen years ago)

don't get me wrong, I love Silent Running and I need to see it again

but Brainstorm's 70mm depiction of the first five minutes after death, starting with point of view shots of writhing through a sea of people choking on their own intestines & strangling each other, and rising out of purgatory to a deep space streams of souls working towards the light. also the scene where the older guy makes a four second tape loop out of a recorded orgasm and plays it until he loses his personality, and after days of physical therapy to rehabilitate simply says "I'm more than I was"... that's what I mean by ambitious

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

also the scene where the older guy makes a four second tape loop out of a recorded orgasm and plays it until he loses his personality, and after days of physical therapy to rehabilitate simply says "I'm more than I was"... that's what I mean by ambitious

^^^^this is so awesome, best thing in the movie

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

Cocoon was bollocks enough to make me hate old people for years.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 21:03 (eighteen years ago)

wow...this is tough...i think i'll go Road Warrior since I don't think it'll get enough votes.

ryan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 21:39 (eighteen years ago)

If you didn't vote for Lifeforce, you're probably at least a little gay.

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 21:50 (eighteen years ago)

since I'm gay, I didn't need to.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 21:53 (eighteen years ago)

actually, gratutitous female nudity aside, the subtext of Lifeforce is pretty gay.

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

seriously: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veVPZgiaYZ8

however

http://www.deliriousfilm.com/lifeforce/imgs/LFembrac.JPG

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 21:58 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.pandora.ca/pictures9/676276.jpg

Jordan, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 22:01 (eighteen years ago)

MORE CHALLENGING CHOICES

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 22:02 (eighteen years ago)

the science of Poul Anderson's "The Make-shift Rocket" is completely real and would work. Dude builds a rocket powered by beer, which would work great in a micrograv environment.

kingfish, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 22:10 (eighteen years ago)

lifeforce was based on colin wilson's book

http://www.fantasticfiction.co.uk/images/n0/n3311.jpg

'The Mind Parasites' is a good read as well -http://www.curledup.com/mindpara.htm

I'm down to these: Videodrome, The Thing, Blade Runner, Lifeforce, Brazil, The Fly, Robocop, They Live

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 22:12 (eighteen years ago)

actually, gratutitous female nudity aside, the subtext of Lifeforce is pretty gay.

-- sexyDancer, Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:55 PM (Wednesday, March 19, 2008 4:55 PM) Bookmark Link

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 22:19 (eighteen years ago)

"Dune" is underrated.

Bodrick III, Thursday, 20 March 2008 01:04 (eighteen years ago)

Gave away all my VHS tapes and "Repo Man" was in there. And now I can't find a fuckin' torrent.

:(

Maybe if I see it cheap on DVD...

Bodrick III, Thursday, 20 March 2008 01:06 (eighteen years ago)

omigod Jorday, I LOVE that particular "Choose Your Own Adventure" book! It's in my closet.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 20 March 2008 01:06 (eighteen years ago)

voted e.t. also, gotta echo morbs on it.

balls, Thursday, 20 March 2008 01:35 (eighteen years ago)

My predictable vote -- Blade Runner.

Rock Hardy, Thursday, 20 March 2008 01:36 (eighteen years ago)

yeah i voted Blade Runner too.

i forgot just how many sci-fi movies there were in the 80's compared to to the 70's.

latebloomer, Thursday, 20 March 2008 05:29 (eighteen years ago)

Coming down to Khan, Robocop & Aliens for me. I can't believe how many of these I saw before 1990--City Lights! Thanks Showtime... apparently I watched nothing but SciFi.

Sparkle Motion, Thursday, 20 March 2008 05:39 (eighteen years ago)

Communion is totally bonkers. Quintessential Walken.

latebloomer, Thursday, 20 March 2008 05:45 (eighteen years ago)

the aliens and their infamous rectal probes are almost incidental

latebloomer, Thursday, 20 March 2008 05:50 (eighteen years ago)

Tracer I read that fecund horror essay. Fun stuff, it's a good gag. They're just monster movies though, of course.

ledge, Thursday, 20 March 2008 09:33 (eighteen years ago)

NSFW image

Edward III, Thursday, 20 March 2008 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

i'm not going to vote for it or anything, but let it be known that Predator is awesome

Agreed! And I DID vote for it. I've always thought of it more as an "action" film, though. Total Recall came out in 90, I see.
I've been watching all these old classics with my young friend Zach who's never seen any of them. Predator blew his mind, Robocop touched his heart. I forgot how much HEART Robocop has. He's the most human thing in that movie. Also, Clarence Boddicker RULES. He snorts the drug dealer's wine, it's totally WTF.

Trip Maker, Thursday, 20 March 2008 15:05 (eighteen years ago)

Man, first thing I thought when I saw this title was "What about Looker?" -- and there it is!

Eazy, Thursday, 20 March 2008 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

ledge, berlatsky agrees with you:

You go to the Thing to be amazed and disgusted by some cool fucking shit.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 20 March 2008 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

and yeah, sometimes a shapeshifting homicidal alien that takes over men's bodies in order to give birth to itself is just a shapeshifting homicidal alien that takes over men's bodies in order to give birth to itself, no more, no less

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 20 March 2008 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

Edward!!!

TOMBOT, Thursday, 20 March 2008 18:32 (eighteen years ago)

repo man

omar little, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:03 (eighteen years ago)

Got to be Mad Max 2 - "The Sistine Chapel of Punk culture" according to J.G. Ballard, and he wasn't far off. The cinematic equivalent of 2000AD, at the very least.

Just a cigarette paper between this and "Escape from New York" or "The Thing", though.

Soukesian, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

. . but, damn, "Liquid Sky" . . so many great movies in that list.

Soukesian, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

liquid sky sounds crazy, not on netflix though. :(

Jordan, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:37 (eighteen years ago)

We're missing the perennial late-80s arthouse double-feature accompaniment to Liquid Sky: The Brother from Another Planet.

Eazy, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

Liquid Sky: Made for pennies, time capsule picture of the period, incredibly bleak. But funny, too.

Soukesian, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

We're missing Night of the Comet, too.

sexyDancer, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

^This.

suzy, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:44 (eighteen years ago)

damn i have no idea which way to go on this poll.

s1ocki, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:46 (eighteen years ago)

also these fine animated features:
Rock & Rule
Time Masters
Starchaser: Legend of Orin
Lightyears

sexyDancer, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

Heavy Metal

Eazy, Thursday, 20 March 2008 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

Predator wins because I've seen it more than Back to the Future, and drawn him more than the Xenomorph.

Kerm, Thursday, 20 March 2008 21:31 (eighteen years ago)

And I got my baseball coach into trouble for getting him to talk my mom into letting me watch Predator.

Kerm, Thursday, 20 March 2008 21:32 (eighteen years ago)

i would argue for 'streets of fire' to be included

omar little, Thursday, 20 March 2008 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

Earth Girls ARE Easy

sexyDancer, Thursday, 20 March 2008 21:34 (eighteen years ago)

I voted for Bladerunner, but dude!

Empire Strikes Back, Road Warrior, Escape from New York, Outland, E.T., Tron, The Thing, Khaaaaan, Testament (good god, every junior high student in the world should be required to watch that one), Dead Zone, Repo Man, Terminator, Buckaroo Banzai, Starman, Brazil, ST: Save the Whales, Tremors (mwahahahaha), The Abyss (minus the last ten minutes) ....

That was a good decade for chilling out in the dark and going where no human has gone before.

Hey Jude, Thursday, 20 March 2008 23:28 (eighteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fa/Krull.jpg/392px-Krull.jpg

DavidM, Friday, 21 March 2008 12:59 (eighteen years ago)

I loved the weird shriek the stormtroopers in Krull uttered upon being shot.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 21 March 2008 13:34 (eighteen years ago)

So many great films here, but I gotta go for Akira for totally blowing my mind about what animation can do. Plus it's a great film storywise too.

Tuomas, Friday, 21 March 2008 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

Also, it was made 20 years ago, but I still can think of only handful of other animated features that would look as great as Akira.

Tuomas, Friday, 21 March 2008 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

I always associate Akira with the 90s since it didn't come out in the US until 90-91.

Sparkle Motion, Friday, 21 March 2008 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

Voted for Videodrome (which I'd always kinda associated more with horror) but ain't seen lots on this list...

One not on there that I really loved was the Russian flick Kin-Dza-Dza.

__CB__, Friday, 21 March 2008 20:43 (eighteen years ago)

voted videodrome because
http://www.library.cornell.edu/olinuris/ref/videodrome.jpg

The Macallan 18 Year, Friday, 21 March 2008 22:49 (eighteen years ago)

1. E.T.
2. Blade Runner

Tape Store, Friday, 21 March 2008 23:16 (eighteen years ago)

Xpost: Kin-Dza-Dza looks fascinating. Where did you see it? Is it available subbed or dubbed into English?

Soukesian, Saturday, 22 March 2008 00:48 (eighteen years ago)

D/l'ed it (with fan subs, which unfortunately were out-of-time and I had to resync) a couple of years ago. I remember checking for a subtitled DVD at the time and there wasn't one available. Definitely worth seeing - I think I might give it a rewatch tonight actually.

__CB__, Saturday, 22 March 2008 01:26 (eighteen years ago)

Also, no Tetsuo? Not sci-fi enough?

__CB__, Saturday, 22 March 2008 01:30 (eighteen years ago)

Soukesian, it has never been officially translated into English but an old roommate of mine made a translation a couple of years ago which I have as an .srt file. if you're interested email me using my profile email address.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 22 March 2008 01:41 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone who votes for Buckaroo Banzai needs to be dragged out into the street & shot.

ian, Saturday, 22 March 2008 01:46 (eighteen years ago)

Stupendously incorrect.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, 22 March 2008 01:58 (eighteen years ago)

agreed w/ kkvg, dragging them out into the street is completely unnecessary

El Tomboto, Saturday, 22 March 2008 02:07 (eighteen years ago)

it's a fine way to kill what, an hour and a half? but it's certainly the farthest thing from best sci-fi movie of the eighties that i can think of.

ian, Saturday, 22 March 2008 02:10 (eighteen years ago)

come on, anything with peter weller is worth seeing. i feel the same way about lance henriksen.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 22 March 2008 02:13 (eighteen years ago)

although i suppose that's what you said.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 22 March 2008 02:13 (eighteen years ago)

I feel the same way about AT-ATs.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 22 March 2008 02:24 (eighteen years ago)

you know what i miss?
x-wing vs. tie fighter and its precursors.

ian, Saturday, 22 March 2008 02:27 (eighteen years ago)

Adventures of Buckaroo Bonzai is what I remember most about Sunday afternoons in the late 80s, sitting around watching UHF with friends. Someone at channel 54 really liked that movie and so did I. You guys are right though, there's probably a dozen better movies up there.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Saturday, 22 March 2008 09:43 (eighteen years ago)

Xpost to Tracer - thanks for the offer on Kin-Dza-Dza, but Ruscico (Russian Cinema Council) have it on their website under 'coming soon', so I'll wait for that. Check 'em out - they have a lot of Soviet era SF and Fantasy on offer. Discs are nicely put together, dubs, subs and extras.

Soukesian, Saturday, 22 March 2008 09:52 (eighteen years ago)

Caught Lifeforce again on late night TV recently. What a fascinating disaster. Some classic character actors propping up utterly wooden and miscast leads, almost to the point of ventriloquism. However there's a still a cool 'Quatermass' vibe, the effects still look pretty good, and the destruction of London is quite spectacular. A LOT of money has been spent, but it still manages to look like as cheap episode of 'New Avengers' most the time. (But that vampire spaceship!)

Just imagine if this had been another John Carpenter/Kurt Russell joint, though.

Soukesian, Saturday, 22 March 2008 10:03 (eighteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

this is tough, maybe tougher than the 70s one. let's see...

Altered States - some terrible acting and lousy dialogue, but the gonzo visuals carry the day. writhing crucified man with head of an eight-eyed goat? check. snake turns into your naked girlfriend, then into desiccated dust statue eroded by desert winds? check. lava lamp soul implosion whirlpool? check. but when william hurt sits at his kitchen table watching his arm ripple, I think that's not sci-fi, that's how I spent most of my time in college.

Mad Max 2 (The Road Warrior) - pound for pound this is my favorite movie on the list, but I agree with morbs that it's one of the least sci-fi. however, it is one of the most quotable and compulsively watchable. a marvel of editing. and casting - even the bit players give great face.

Escape from New York - watched this recently and was surprised by how well it has held up. also noticed how it amalgamates elements from carpenter's previous films; the tough guy bravado and urban grit of assault on precinct 13, creepy corner-of-the-frame shock scenes a la halloween, kurt russell from elvis, the fog's atmospheric claustrophobia. plus, snake plissken is the best action hero handle ever.

Scanners - huge soft spot for this movie, in spite of its flaws, which are many. poorly plotted, acting is all over the map, lead character is dishwater dull. at one point the sound even goes out of sync for several minutes?! but the set pieces are fantastic (the exploding head, the art gallery) and the concept and ideas are enough to keep this train wreck humming.

Videodrome - both more polished and more beserk than scanners, but the queasy, post-burroughs satire doesn't wear as well.

The Thing - this is always a fun watch but never a love thing for me. perhaps it's the all-dude cast, or maybe because the special effects so totally overpower every other aspect of the movie.

Liquid Sky - haven't seen this in decades but I have fond memories of fluorescent discos, rhythmic self-abuse, and killer orgasms. which is how I imagine the rest of the world spent their time in college.

Repo Man - another one that's stood the test of time. however, the movie straddles so many genres it becomes genreless and putting it in a sci-fi category does it a disservice. maybe file under "california satire"? now that I think about it, this is emilio estevez's best performance ever - never again was his dunderheaded smirking used to such advantage.

Aliens - I patiently await rrrobyn's revenge for calling this a popcorn movie, but it really *is* one, a movie's movie. thrills! chills! spills! it's one hollywood cliche after another executed with such jackhammer precision that there's no reason not to strap yourself in and yell "we're in the pipe, 5 by 5!"

The Fly - has there ever been a more successful sci-fi remake? it nails the type of heartbreak altered states strived for but failed to deliver, breathing life into a universal message that hits home with every generation; honey, I love you but I'm willing to undergo horrific genetic mutation for my job. hope you'll understand.

Edward III, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 03:33 (eighteen years ago)

I never noticed this before, but there's a moment mid-explosion when he looks really surprised.

31g, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 04:31 (eighteen years ago)

"woah, wasn't expecting that"

Edward III, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 04:39 (eighteen years ago)

lol


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Jordan, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

Also, no Tetsuo? Not sci-fi enough?

(from earlier in the thread)

David R., Wednesday, 26 March 2008 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

Altered States - some terrible acting and lousy dialogue, but the gonzo visuals carry the day. writhing crucified man with head of an eight-eyed goat? check. snake turns into your naked girlfriend, then into desiccated dust statue eroded by desert winds? check. lava lamp soul implosion whirlpool? check. but when william hurt sits at his kitchen table watching his arm ripple, I think that's not sci-fi, that's how I spent most of my time in college.

Blair Brown nekkid vs. Saturn 3 Farah Fawcett
Bailey vs. Jennifer

Eazy, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Thursday, 27 March 2008 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

give me one (1) break!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 27 March 2008 00:10 (eighteen years ago)

how did aliens get no votes? and nobody repped for innerspace either. Oh, we are a failure, aren't we.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 March 2008 00:11 (eighteen years ago)

Blair Brown nekkid

I parsed this incorrectly and it conjured up some very disturbing imagery.

emil.y, Thursday, 27 March 2008 00:13 (eighteen years ago)

Alien won the first poll, and there are way more options on this poll, so I can understand it.

latebloomer, Thursday, 27 March 2008 01:07 (eighteen years ago)

how did aliens get no votes? and nobody repped for innerspace either. Oh, we are a failure, aren't we.

Better movies were released in the 1980s and Inner Space is a vast wasteland of suckage.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 27 March 2008 01:10 (eighteen years ago)

I expected three of ILX's top five to put me to sleep. I was right, and I haven't even seen the other two.

Kerm, Thursday, 27 March 2008 02:09 (eighteen years ago)

good for you! good for you!

latebloomer, Thursday, 27 March 2008 02:10 (eighteen years ago)

so does anything cool happen towards the end of Blade Runner?

Kerm, Thursday, 27 March 2008 02:12 (eighteen years ago)

she's a he

latebloomer, Thursday, 27 March 2008 02:14 (eighteen years ago)

but we did sort of have a renaissance of aliens love, between this and the aliens poll.

honestly, i thought the thing would be #1 or #2.

Jordan, Thursday, 27 March 2008 04:27 (eighteen years ago)

btw blade runner: the final cut just arrived today from netflix.

Jordan, Thursday, 27 March 2008 04:27 (eighteen years ago)

honestly, i thought the thing would be #1 or #2.

I thought so too. (I voted for The Quiet Earth though)

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 27 March 2008 05:13 (eighteen years ago)

No *batteries not included, no credibility

JTS, Thursday, 27 March 2008 08:57 (eighteen years ago)

Still, I would have thought Aliens might have gotten at least one vote. I expected a bigger turn out anyway.

Ste, Thursday, 27 March 2008 09:26 (eighteen years ago)

aliens more likely to get repped in an action poll.

Cosmo Vitelli, Thursday, 27 March 2008 09:34 (eighteen years ago)

83 votes is not bad for a poll, they rarely get over 100.

ledge, Thursday, 27 March 2008 09:49 (eighteen years ago)

*batteries not included,

isn't this about old people?

Jordan, Thursday, 27 March 2008 13:47 (eighteen years ago)

what is it with 80's sci-fi flicks about old people

latebloomer, Thursday, 27 March 2008 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

do the star trek flicks count as part of this sub-genre?

latebloomer, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:00 (eighteen years ago)

this poll was too hard was the problem

n/a, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:14 (eighteen years ago)

seriously. so many notable flicks.

latebloomer, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:15 (eighteen years ago)

I, for one, couldn't choose.

treefell, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:16 (eighteen years ago)

what is it with 80's sci-fi flicks about old people

Cocoon was a hit, ripoffs ensue.
No MAC and me on this poll...so sad.

Sparkle Motion, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:18 (eighteen years ago)

tom - 90's poll? :>

Jordan, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

predicting Virtuosity for the win

latebloomer, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:23 (eighteen years ago)

vs. Lawnmower Man 2: Beyond Cyberspace

Jordan, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:29 (eighteen years ago)

watched Robocop last night, and noticed that it featured at least two england footballer lookalikes, David Platt and Wayne Rooney

Ste, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:30 (eighteen years ago)

No MAC and me on this poll...so sad.

totally;_;

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8cqqjOUdgAw

latebloomer, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:31 (eighteen years ago)

more like Big Mac and me amirite

latebloomer, Thursday, 27 March 2008 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

yeah I didn't vote - too hard. surprised to see Videodrome place so high and the Thing place so low tho.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 March 2008 15:48 (eighteen years ago)

I am pleased that Repo Man came in ahead of E.T..

Daniel, Esq., Friday, 28 March 2008 01:14 (eighteen years ago)

Oops, forgot:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41SZPWZJT8L._AA280_.jpg

And Alan Rudolph's Endangered Species is either about aliens or black helicopters.

Eazy, Friday, 28 March 2008 01:19 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, and with a similar poster, it turns out:
http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/celebrity/images/Movie/poster-endangered.JPG

Eazy, Friday, 28 March 2008 01:20 (eighteen years ago)

everything thru the thing (and several after) i would take over any on the 90s list

balls, Friday, 28 March 2008 01:22 (eighteen years ago)

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/d/d5/Zapped.jpg

I guess 80s teen science fiction is a whole other category.

Eazy, Friday, 28 March 2008 01:58 (eighteen years ago)

of the top ten, i haven't seen videodrome or they live.
what are they all about and why do i love them>

ian, Friday, 28 March 2008 03:39 (eighteen years ago)

oh man you need to see both asap, dude

latebloomer, Friday, 28 March 2008 06:25 (eighteen years ago)

i miss neon grids.

Cosmo Vitelli, Friday, 28 March 2008 06:32 (eighteen years ago)

Videodrome is maybe DC's finest theorem about the New Flesh, I think of it every time I shoulder past some zombielike texter on the sidewalk

Dr Morbius, Friday, 28 March 2008 14:11 (eighteen years ago)

They Live is silly as hell but its good. Videodrome is definitely one of Cronenberg's high points and must be seen immediately.

also Zapped! gawd that is some funny shit

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 28 March 2008 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

i watched Outland last night. aside from a few silly plot points, it's pretty good! sean connery as wild west sheriff meets modern drugs/unions/corporations plot, set in space.

Jordan, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 17:49 (eighteen years ago)

six years pass...

man The Hidden is great! can't believe I never saw that before. Deserved at least a vote :(

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 18:41 (eleven years ago)

special lol @ Mrs. Haverchuck from Freaks and Geeks appearing as a stripper

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 19:58 (eleven years ago)

two years pass...

You guys - there is this straight-to-VHS film from '87 called Death Row Game Show and it is amazing. Baffled that it never got a cult following, the blackly ironic tone is ridic.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 04:38 (nine years ago)

I mean

http://cinapse.co/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Deathrow-Gameshow-03-Old-DVD.jpg

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 27 December 2016 04:41 (nine years ago)

seven months pass...

why don't i ask on one more thread -- anyone know this Sokurov '88 film?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Days_of_Eclipse

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 3 August 2017 20:12 (eight years ago)


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