happy st patrick's day!

I just hope I don't repeat my Patricks day performance of last year, when I fell on my face and had a face like the elephant man in time for my 18th birthday.

Why Ronan? Are you pregnant?

No don't be crazy, the only child I look after is myself.

Er sorry it's just I'm used to TOMORROW being a bank holiday, and everyone here will be going out tonight. Although everyone went out last night aswell, I had a small party in my house and then got sick on myself and went to bed. It was still fun though.

Oh, and did you see the Onion this week? They had a lot of St. Patrick's Day articles. The Shamrock Shake one was the best, but I couldn't find it on the site.

According to my calender, the day before St. Patty's Day, March 16th, is "Freedom of Information Day", and appropriately enough, also Flavor Flav's birthday. Now that's what I'm talking about!

Umm...

If if was then Jon stole it; I saw it a couple of days ago.

lots of hugs ....lots of kisses...i just had an AWESOME time in NYC! mwah mwah

Destroy the parade. It SUXXX and lasts all day long and Midtown fills with drunk teenage boyz accosting anything female. DUD DUD DUD.

*shakes up ball, reads answer*

It also says all signs point to yes. Maybe it's foolish too.

It rather boldly stated "My reply is no."

Enough with the slug references, already!!

No lead pellets, hstencil. That would sting.

Slán abhaile!

damn and i missed it!

http://www.cooksrecipes.com/recipe_pics_2/irish_soda_bread.jpg

i had 2 pints of guinness tonight.

kiss me I'm irish. begorra.

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

GRRRRR.

Still can't wait mind you.

So they don't celebrate this abroad?! It's just American? WTF?!

(wankiest holiday ever though, if you're not in Ireland or an Irish community. Like there's some kind of sacred obligation to get completely wankered and stuff. That's what university's for)

oh, and I'm listening to teh Catherine Wheel right now. I love celebrating holidays.

What is this bigoted bullshit doing on a St. Pat's thread (and anonymous, too)? The number of "Americans" or Irish-Americans supporting anything NI-related is -very- small, and if they were funding anything IRA, a lot of them probably didn't even realize it. No one holds the immigrants accountable for coming over here to separate IA's from their cash.

what's Phil Babb up to these days anyway?

Youn's dish = boxty, coddle, or -- ?

It is odd to think of people needing a reason, or an excuse, to drink Guinness.

Most talk about Dublin vs other Guinness is, I've long held, a myth.

I have a wee souvenir from the Guinness museum which contains frozen Guinness or something. Actually I am not sure what it contains. I am after getting mixed up. I will check and report back.

Is THE VICAR going to be in Berlin for St P's Day? Perhaps that might help him rediscover his (London) roots.

And is nickie at the top of the thread the Nickie what I have met?

That souvenir can be exchanged for a free pint at the Guinness Storehouse I think.

I don't know where mine is now. I want to find it.

I dont want anyones sympathy, i just want everyone to know that this was one of the most hilarious nights in foodservice history, and that i can handle $1500 in bar sales with one arm tied behind my back. If anybody in DC is reading this, get me a fucking job at Platinum or St. Ex or Saki!

HAPPY ST PATRICKS DAY!

actually, this sounds like a great idea.

Let us remember good Sainte Patty - he drove the snakes from Ireland - now he can return to drive the bird flu from the freakin' world! C'mon Sainte Patty! DONT DISS US!

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more like saint rat trick

more like saint at prick

Fuck St Patrick's Day.

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Greehey hee! I'm a Leprechuan!

i dont drink or believe in god but as someone from a family of irish catholics i say YAY ST PATS DAY!

Except it ISN'T, sez the Catholic Church:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7300466.stm

I think the last thing Irish Catholics care about is what the Catholic Church has to say about anything.

OK, I'm heading into New York, and I'm most certainly not wearing any green, any fuxor pinches me - they're gonna get a smack in the kisser.

Except for the actual Irish, in Ireland. They care rather a bit.

x-post

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/03/16/89-saint-patricks-day/

it's still crap.

It's a dumb holiday.

I wore green by accident. I was running late and my green jacket was already on the floor in a pile.

xxp: oh sorry, I was just basing that on the last one I slept with, outside of marriage, while drunk and high and using contraception. But YMMV.

irish soda bread at work this morning

I was not into it being St Patty's day and was supposed to meet someone at the bar tonight and was planning on refusing to be all LOL ST PATTY'S GIMME A GUINESS but then I found my stolen bike this morning and stole it back and am feeling kinda LUCK O THE IRISH so then I stopped at the bar after riding for 3+ hours and drank a bunch of Harp so HAPPY ST PATTY'S DAY YOU FUCKERS.

Now I shower.

hspd, di & duane & maryann!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU

Except for the actual Irish, in Ireland. They care rather a bit.

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-- Masonic Boom, 17 March 2008 14:23 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

um, rong.

I didn't encounter any celebrations, even peripherally -- best SPD ever.

Last night was the second time in my life that I have ever gone out drinking on St. Patrick's Day. It actually turned out to be a good experience. I spent the evening hanging out with some people that I barely even know...at one point, we ended up going to some abomination of an "Irish pub" that was actually charging $10 to get in the door!!! Wow! A dude I was with generously coughed up the admission fee for me ...I think we ended up going to a half-dozen bars over the course of the evening; though it seems like twice that many in retrospect.

At the end of the night, we failed to bluff our way into an after-hours place, and then I split from my party, urinated against the window of a bank, found a classic red kickball type ball, and wandered around booting it through various alleys and against the sides of buildings. It was positively therapeutic. As I get older I increasingly forget how so much of my life as a kid centered around the simple joys of stuff like that.

Today I woke up with one of those hangovers that has me feeling extraordinarily benevolent towards and largely at peace with the greater world.

THIS WAS THE WORST DAY OF MY LIFE

just kidding it was pretty good

After the day I had, that first beer was only eclipsed by the second and third beers, and the kiss from my wife at the end of the day.

happy st. patty's, ILX!!

who's goin out tonight?

Tonight? Surmounted I would have thought you of all people would have started the party as soon as you woke up.

'Surmounted', good god. Thanks iPhone.

Fuck St Patrick's Day.

― Raw Patrick, Monday, 17 March 2008 11:08 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha

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omg maybe i should pour that little thing of gin in my tea...

um my haha was for Ned -- raw patrick, we have to work on your irish cheer

Terrible man for the curmudgeonry, that Raw Patrick

no money for boozin'. :( might throw on some pogues tho.

more like saint at prick

― DavidM, Monday, 17 March 2008 09:22 (1 year ago)

^still holds true.

Anybody outside of Ireland the US care about this 'holiday'?

Publicans

students

Toronto does. Toronto plans on leaving work an hour early to go drinkin'.

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Happy St. Patty's Day, ilx.

Is Patty the American equivalent of Paddy?

merriweather post patty

St Packie.

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Put a jonk on it

Authentic California celebrations:

http://www.latimes.com/media/photo/2009-03/45432093.jpg

Other follies here.

From this story.

Is St. Patrick now offically the most popular Welshman in history?

Fuck St Patrick's Day.

― Raw Patrick, Monday, 17 March 2008 11:08 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― Mylene Cockfarmer (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:33 PM (3 hours ago)

Is St. Patrick now offically the most popular Welshman in history?

Surely not:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Tom_Jones_Hampton_Court_Palace_2007.jpg/220px-Tom_Jones_Hampton_Court_Palace_2007.jpg

I'm sure the girls threw undergarments - made of birch or something - at St. Paddy too

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papyrus

LET'S ALL RAISE A GLASS FOR CATHOLIC PAEDOPHILE PRIESTS ON THIS FINE FESTIVAL OF ROOTING OUT ENGLISH YEOMAN

I HAD A GOOD LISTEN TO DIRTY OLD TOWN THERE, A SONG WRITTEN BY AN ENGLISHMAN OF SCOTTISH EXTRACTION ABOUT SALFORD. GOOD CRAIC.

FAIR PLAY TO YOU.

I'M OFF TO WORK.

BOLLOCKS, AS WE SAY IN THE OLD COUNTRY.

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Get yer Offical St. Paddy's Day Child Abuse Denier/ Paedophile Protector outfit here

ay happy st patty's day you guys I'll be drinkin' a bud in memory of my fightin' ancestors in Kilmarnock tonight

Just ate a green fortune cookie. Irish motto: "Friendship, Love, & Loyalty." No lottery numbers though.

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top o' the mornin' to ye!

Sláinte, everyone.

Americans

Worse: tourists.

I've never had a the opportunity to do radio programming on St Patrick's Day until today! Pulling out a TON of Thin Lizzy, Them and Van, lots of songs with "green" in the title...should be a lot of fun.

Might not be able to get tomorrow off due to moron rota person at work. Bollocks.

attractive cashier in benugo was wearing the stupid guiness hat. ne'er a more beautiful but disgusting savage.

was in irish pub with irish friends this eve, finally admitted to myself that i enjoy beautiful day by u2

It's like there's some branding going on:

http://www.google.com/logos/stpatricksday10-hp.gif

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harbl, thank you for posting a pic from the wrold's best/worst catalog, Oriental Trading

a time for reflection and tribute...

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I met someone named Rishi in a bar around St Pat's a couple of years ago. He was wearing a Tshirt that said, "Kiss me, I'm Rishi" which clearly I have not forgotten.

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"Irish Car Bomb" - very tasteful, Americans just wuv cuddly Irish terrorism

I'd be more offended by the graphic design m'self.

Irish Car Bombs raise ire

By Josefina Loza
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER

Today, when you're wearing your green, crawling through pubs and downing an Irish Car Bomb cocktail or two, here's something to keep in mind:

That drink will make some heads explode. And probably not yours.

The 31-year-old concoction made up of Guinness stout, Bailey's Irish Cream and Irish whiskey makes many traditional Irish-Americans crazy. They hate all it stands for: The name makes light of serious historical and current events, and the potent cocktail glorifies drinking on a holiday they say has somber significance.

St. Patrick's Day drinks described as Irish Car Bombs are “tasteless” and “culturally insensitive,” said Chuck Real of the Irish American Cultural Institute in Omaha. He was shocked that such a cocktail existed in Irish-American pubs. He also isn't happy that people make Irish Car Bomb cupcakes and cakes such as those featured on today's Living cover.
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To Real, the name conjures up memories of unrest in Northern Ireland. Car bombs sometimes were the weapon of choice, and many believe that the Provisional Irish Republican Army was responsible. Bombings still occasionally happen Real cited three bomb threats in the past five years. They aren't funny, he said. They're lethal.

“St. Patrick's Day to the older generations and to those in Ireland has always been a day of obligation,” Real said.

But it's also a time to celebrate.

“You know why it's called a car bomb,” joked Jim Cavanaugh, an Omaha attorney of Irish descent. “It'll wreck your head.”

And defusing the Irish Car Bomb, pub owners say, is not likely, although one Omaha restaurateur changed the name of the drink after receiving several complaints following a reference in the World-Herald last week.

The Irish Car Bomb categorized as a boilermaker is often ordered in bars, including the Brazen Head, Kennedy's Irish Pub, O'Connor's Irish Pub and Old Chicago, to name a few in Omaha.

It was created on St. Patrick's Day in 1979 at Wilson's Saloon in Norwich, Conn.

Multiple sources say that Charles Burke Cronin Oat invented the cocktail after trying an Irish cream and coffee liqueur mixture. He felt something was missing. So he added Irish whiskey and later Guinness, then joked that “the IRA just showed up” because the drink started to foam over like a little explosion.

The drink curdles quickly, so people typically chug fast.

“That why I heard it messes with your head,” Cavanaugh said.

Like Real, Cavanaugh has deep Irish roots. He tries to visit the country once a year. His grandparents were among the first Irish immigrants to settle in Omaha, and his daughter was born on St. Patrick's Day.

The name of the drink doesn't offend him, though he isn't fond of the holiday's drunken debauchery.

“Irish Car Bombs ... that's an Irish-American concoction,” Cavanaugh said. “Just like corned beef and cabbage. It's not something that has any political resonance or cultural significance.”

But that's the hallmark of America, he said. “We brought a lot of different cultures, put them in the blender or pint glass and stirred them all up.”

And once they're stirred up, they lose more and more of their heritage. Real said he thinks younger Irish-Americans those whose families have been here for generations are far enough removed from Ireland that they don't see Irish Car Bombs as slurs.

After last week's reference to the drink, Real received a handful of calls and e-mails from members of his group. Kathleen McEvoy became so upset and short of breath that she had to use her oxygen tank to finish her conversation, he said.

“Don't you know that this could hurt people's feelings,” McEvoy, 80, later told The World-Herald. “It makes it seem that all Irish people were terrorists.”

What if cocktails were called “The 9-11” or “Afghan bomber,” she asked. “How would people feel then?”

In fact, the Irish aren't the only ones to take shots from drink names. Some other drinks available at various Nebraska bars: the Polish Car Bomb, the Sake Bomb, Kamikaze and the Abortion Shot.

Petrow's Restaurant had planned to serve Irish Car Bombs today, but now it's selling Guinness Floats.

Nick Petrow, owner of the longtime eatery at 5914 Center St., said he apologized to a handful of callers and e-mailers who were offended.

“We absolutely had no idea,” Petrow said. “The Irish community is the most celebrated ethnic community in the country. We wanted to dedicate a float to being Irish. I'm uneducated to the problems in Ireland, no matter how many years ago. We didn't mean to offend anyone, so we changed the name.”

Omaha's popular Irish bars, however, plan to go on as usual today. They will raise beer garden tents, bring in Irish bands, stock gallons of Guinness and sell more than a few Irish Car Bombs.

You'll find them at the Dubliner, a 30-year-old downtown Omaha landmark. For proprietor Frank Vance, it's a practical matter.

“We've sold them as long as I've owned the place 11 years,” he said. “I myself don't like the name. I don't like anything about it. But that's what it's called. You call a Kleenex a Kleenex, not a Scott's tissue.”

Real a history professor at Metropolitan Community College said there's nothing new about the controversy.

“The Irish have been picked on for hundreds of years.”

“The Irish have been picked on for hundreds of years.”

Oh boohoo

i'm raising the price on all my wolf tones records today

http://www.rarefm.co.uk/reviews/riflesIRA.jpg

Fortunately, two of my local bars are actually owned and heavily patronized by actual Irish people. I agree that Irish Car Bombs and Black and Tans are tawdry names but I am far, far more offended by people who opportunistically wear shitloads of tacky green and end (though the hardy may continue) their night puking up green beer or whatnot.

I've never had a the opportunity to do radio programming on St Patrick's Day until today! Pulling out a TON of Thin Lizzy, Them and Van, lots of songs with "green" in the title...should be a lot of fun.

― Trip Maker, Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:25 AM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Don't forget Rory Gallagher.

"Irish Car Bomb" - very tasteful

I dont know about tasteful, but it's pretty goddamn tasty!

St. Patrick's Day drinks described as Irish Car Bombs are “tasteless” and “culturally insensitive,” said Chuck Real of the Irish American Cultural Institute in Omaha.

^Jesus, lighten up, Chuck.

They sound like they taste like ass.

That's what I thought until I had about 8 last night. Pretty fucking good.

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Oh yeah, thanks!
(for reminding me about Rory)

You're welcome. I blasted Irish Tour on the way to work in honor of the man.

Black and Tan (the drink) has been around since the 19th Century so no connotations there.

Chuck Real

He was in that band that opened for Fear one time, right?

Black and Tan (the drink) has been around since the 19th Century so no connotations there.

That's kind of a niggling point. How many people know that the drink predates the thugs?

how people (Americans) know about the Black and Tans though?

There's a fair number, I'd wager.

I do only from ILX.

i'm half irish and half english so every once in a while i like to buy a six of guinness and a six of bass and mix them at home. and get really drunk. and every time i do this THERE IS A WAR IN ME BELLY.

I've only ever called them half and halfs since being scolded about it my freshman year of college.

And I've just realized that I am actually wearing black and tan today. Woops.

Happy Dead Maewyn's Day!

OK, I'll rephrase. Black and Tan as a drink has been around since C19 in mainland Britain and is drunk all year round without any specific focus of it being a novelty drink associated with a Saint's Day or having any vaguely Irish connotations whatsoever, referring to a mixture of stout (black) and beer (tan).

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oh hey happy paddy's day all. i got to ride a penny farthing for a little while!

whoa howtf did i get so drunk on a holiday i don't even care about ;_;

highlight of parade- a trailer full of pigs painted green, fighting. really makes u *think*

i went to one of those "irish" bars

those places give me a headache

me too, but maybe not until tomorrow

hmm are you sure it was a real irish bar- if you aren't hungover on your way out the door i fear you may have been fooled by a cheap imitation.

we only have cheap imitations in the u.s.

we're only left with expensive imitations over here, tbh

except this place, this place is the real shit

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Local Cleveland girl was posting some hilariously-captioned pics of downtown partiers on her Twitter feed today: http://twitter.com/rebeccagallant

Fuck St Patrick's Day.

― Raw Patrick, Monday, 17 March 2008 11:08 (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― Mylene Cockfarmer (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 17 March 2009 13:33 (1 year ago) Bookmark

that's pretty raw on st patrick

i just wanna know where the gold at

IRL, my middle name is Patrick. Curiously enough, I, too, like to give ultimatums to snakes.

'Leprechaun' Robbery Suspects Killed After Police Chase

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took two days off, which makes being drunk as fuck right now with four days off feel....AMAZING

Irish Car Bomb cupcakes??

fuck st. patrick's day for making it impossible for me to hang out at a bar & enjoy a cheeseburger, which is all i really wanted out of the night.

whoooooole lotta screaming going on outside my window
and i'm on the ninth floor

I had my green pancake.

Will not be leaving building until at least 6pm.

Why, is there an Irish Car Bomb outside?

There are probably at least a few thousand of them and it's only 10.30AM, in the stomachs of drunk people who aren't Irish in the slightest.

i am not irish nor do i usually celebrate this holiday but i have an irish wool necktie that's green with an orange overcheck so i wore that today. and i'll be going to a corned beef dinner tomorrow, for which i made chocolate stout brownies last night (they turned out good).

shake hands with all of the neighbors

i'll be going to a corned beef dinner tomorrow

I take it this is supposed to be Irish?

plz don't shatter any more US myths!

The USA is the Land of Dreams I suppose

fun fun fun fun

Actually no, I don't do anything for St. Patrick's Day.

I just clicked a few random US college radio streams on that radiocollective.org site that was plugged on ILM a couple of days ago, as I've been doing periodically since its mention to get some in-work listening, and they are all mentioning St Patrick's Day every 5 minutes and playing jaunty Flogging Molly-esque ska-punk with tweedly faux-Oirish fiddles and pipes.

S'pose what comes around goes around, since Northern Irish taxi drivers do like to hear their local imitations of country+western. Maybe there is a special day for that too.

St. Budweiser's Day

Around here, we call that "Wednesday."

Note that, inevitably perhaps, corned beef means something different in the US than it does in the UK (and, errrrrrrrrr, Ireland)

This is what it's about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABQPeY2UwRI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRB9Ae1Ltqs

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madness on 5th ave right now

One year on st paddy's day I had to take the LIRR into Penn because I was going somewhere on Amtrak. The train was filled with off duty cops and drunk HS kids heading to the parade. It was a nightmare.

Another year I got thrown out of a Black 47 show (don't ask) for trying to pour my own beers from the wrong side of the bar. That was before I realized how much this days sucks.

Up now on unknown US college radio station, a version of Whiskey In The Jar which is basically Thin Lizzy's version with a gruffer vocalist, guitars played through an 80s digital "metal" pedal, and the snare engineered to sound like a monster truck hitting a wall.

I'm told that neither Irish nor American corned beef are anything like the disgusting canned version which was a school dinner staple of my British childhood, but I don't know if they resemble each other apart from that. What's the difference?

Oh but my fav St. Patrick's Day thing is that when my parents lived in the city before they were married my dad went to the parade and then out drinking for the entire day. Late that night my mom answered the door to find a cop standing there only it wasn't a cop at all but my drunk dad in full police uniform including badge. Somehow he'd wound up drinking with some NYPD and convinced one of them that it would be funny if they switched clothes. My mom was so nervous about it that she took everything and threw it down the garbage chute.

st patricks day was fun when i was 20-22. now its just a bore.

exactly

I'm told that neither Irish nor American corned beef are anything like the disgusting canned version which was a school dinner staple of my British childhood, but I don't know if they resemble each other apart from that. What's the difference?

I don't think there's any such thing as Irish corned beef. Anyway, it's salt beef.

... the stuff in the can is exactly what I thought it was, so the concept of a "corned beef dinner" struck me as a bit odd and not exactly something to look forward to

What American's think of as corned beef is, however, entirely diff than the English corned beef.

corned beef is sweet and corned beef hash is sweeter still

got a feeling Bloom eats something corned beef-y or at least thinks about it in Ulysses so none more Irish obv

a few years ago some friends of mine convinced me to go to the parade here, which is the sunday before St Pats..."IT WILL BE AWESOME". It was not awesome, here i am mid-thirties watching a bunch of teens get shitfaced beyond belief and falling down in the streets. Hooray for cheap beer and 20 year old boobs.

man if there's anything better than cheap beer and 20 year old boobs I'm not interested

I wouldn't mind the holiday at all except for the people who celebrate it.

All you need is some Fray Bentos and yer laffin' (xp)

xp okay with the latter, not so much with the former unless it produces the latter in which case cosign

tbh one of them is killing me and the idea of the other one is killing me so I shd probly leave it

It's a beautiful day here and after this horrible winter drinking all day in the sun sounds really nice right now.

I think the bad things about St Pat's are mostly a result of too many people in one place at one time. It would be way cooler if bars weren't too crowded to get in the door, much less get served in under 10 minutes, much less get a seat; if a lot of really unskilled drinkers weren't throwing up everywhere by about 9pm, and so on. It's just population density that makes it intolerable.

I like Tartan Week/Day and the "Scottish"-themed celebrations just fine -- but it only affects a few establishments, and if that annoys you you can go to the dingy Irish bar across the street, where Budweiser is like $3 cheaper.

they're serving corned beef at Sh4rlene's, but no, I can't go into a bar tonight

Tartan Week? We get the whole week do we?

never have been gladder to work from home in a caribbean neighborhood

my bf is working bar today... it was packed at 10 a.m.

Tom, you get a whole week! With honest to god Scottish dignitaries and visiting musical acts and everything.

Well it's true we probably drink even more than the Irish but not 7 times as much

got a group of mexican teenagers to play gaelic football yesterday. give me six months, ill turn them into a great junior b team

eh, it's as much of an amateur night as new years or halloween, i sure as hell will be avoiding any bars especially ones that have televisions in them -- the convergence of st patrick's day and the start of the ncaa tourney -- god i can't even imagine the assfoolery going on as we speak

I used to be a skilled drinker but I'm rusty these days.

It's true about dignitaries, fyi -- I met the Lord Provost of Edinburgh one year! She joked around about accidentally losing the fancy jewelry of her office off the side of a ferry.

Always wondered how many Americans had ancestors who actively persecuted(or just plain invaded and killed) Irish folks rather than be descended from those who were.

I'm guessing a lot of people have both! Fun for the whole family.

well if this place is anything to go by http://www.nmni.com/uafp

Rather a lot I'd say. Though they stole their land rather than killed them. (xxxp)

The "Irish" Irish didn't really show up till the mid 19th century?

In search of potatoes

And corned beef

You can hardly blame them, as apparently our corned beef is a work of culinary mastery compared to yours.

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got a group of mexican teenagers to play gaelic football yesterday. give me six months, ill turn them into a great junior b team

GAA needs more Latin flair imo. I'm hoping for great things from all the Brazilian kids growing up in the country now.

i'm gonna go to PT McSweeneygans Authentic Irishe Pubbe and order a Bloody IRA Orphan Bomb! 2 for 1 drink specials today!

Aaaaand my neighbors are observing the day with a little "burnin' o' the green." Normally I don't mind but the smell is damn strong today.

one of my 35 yr old friends takes today off to go drinking...DUDE YOUR ARE IN YOUR MID-THIRITES.

i mean im all for going out drinking, but taking a day off to do it is so 20's.

St. Patrick's Day has to rank right under New Year's Eve as Amateur Drunk Night.

uh huh.

Or worse, Amateur Drunk Night from New Jersey.

It's a beautiful day here and after this horrible winter drinking all day in the sun sounds really nice right now.

― brownie, Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:53 AM

this is very tru btw
i might just take tomorrow of to do this

Only one oversized green foam hat sighted in the office today, so it's going okay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iORqVxX3928

It's also my birthday today. I've always had mixed feellings about St. Patty's Day because I don't want it to overshadow St. Matty's Day.

awww happy birthday!

Nobody's posted this yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29UMACdfyZw

Thank you!

xpost

i mean im all for going out drinking, but taking a day off to do it is so 20's.

― The Scenario (chrisv2010), Thursday, March 17, 2011 1:14 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Allowed today, though, because its the first day of the NCAA tourney (at least the top 64).

i did this a few years ago on day one of the tourney, took a half day, went into boston, met a friend at a pub, drank for hours, then went to Bruins V Montreal at the Garden. Good times.

Well played, sir.

At work. Wearing my Pogues shirt. They have a massive pot luck so there's corned beef and cabbage up the wazoo, whole place stinks like grandma's ass (not my grandma, the generic grandma)...but I have been happily grazing on pie and brownies all morning. I may indulge in a little colcannon.

No beerishness tonight - going to see Rango with a couple of co-workers. Woo.

Have to say though, was never ridiculously into the eating/drinking/party side of St Paddy's Day, but I really do love the music...reminds me of all the daggy folk and Irish music festivals Mum used to drag me to.

Pogues-y classics aside, I don't have any stomach for "Celtic rock" so...no. Prefer death by endless trad fiddle jig tbh.

I like a bit of Dropkicks but I don't go ape for the rock much. worship the pogues, have for 20 years. but mostly I am a huge sucker for all the daggy trad stuff like Fields of Athenry, Carrickfergus, Black Velvet Band, Tell Me Ma ...kinda fussy over who sings it and how it's sung tho

tomorrow is St Joseph's Day, for self-sacrificng foster fathers.

Fitting that the day after St. Patrick's is in honor of the guy the chewable aspirin is named for.

paddy's day back home involved getting up early to drive down the island to watch the pipe bands. Rest of day was visiting friends and relatives, eventually resorting to force in the refusal of tea and sandwiches.

Aw, go on, go on, go on.

srsly

i had conveniently forgotten that it was st patricks until a mid 50s couple showed up at work around 11 AM shitfaced and wearing flashing mardi gras led shamrock necklaces. he wanted to play guitar for her which is easier if you can actually play guitar/stand up under your own power.

this will happen several more times today. blarrgh

haha i just downloaded chords and lyrics for dirty old town, be by in a minute

AMATEUR NIGHT

Sorta dreading the T ride home although maybe it'll bring the LOLs. If anyone pukes on me they're gettin' decked.

OK I've never hit anyone in my life and am unlikely to start tonight. However, they'd def get some really nasty looks.

drove to work today thank god. just have to worry about drunk drivers no big deal :/

makes me so proud

Can't wait until Cinco de Mayo when we all get to take a late afternoon nap!

Or Casimir Pulaski day when we all try to screw in light bulbs and fail miserably.

now cinco de mayo on the other hand is fucking awesome in my neighborhood and totally insane, but in a good way

Shamrocks & Sombreros, 'tis the season.

Isn't St. Joseph's day the 19th?

st paddys day in mayo, bonus

saw some meatheads call a high shcool girl a tramp. now home, drinking alone as it should be

cranking the Pogues tbh

ditto

on the ride home i saw a guy pissing in his front lawn while his friends tried to climb on to the roof of their porch

lol ;_;

man tonight is gonna be the worst---i live right near a bunch of d-bag bars and fully expect a non-stop parade of ~carousers~ barfing past my windows

saw at least four different EMS trucks roaring through downtown clevo this afternoon after the parade

::closes eyes, thinks of England::

only with hate in yr heart

only time of the year im glad i live in dryland

fuck this holiday btw

N.B. i'm racist, toward irish

fyi snakes no longer on a plane /st paddy

had lolsubway for lunch and there was a girl passed out in the locked bathroom, they had to take apart the door and get the cops to come. she didn't die or anything.

~america~

this holiday sucks when you haven't had a chance to make friends yet. thinking of last year, drinking jack daniels in my friend tadhgs kitchen and dancing to chic. this year was not the same. btw im glad its now and not then *overall* but right this second i wish it was then.

Seems like you could make a lotta (temporary) friends on 3/17.

eh i had work until after midnight. drank disaronno w/ workmates and went home

not tryna be all emo, just wistful

aww

gbx otm

whishtful

fuck SPD and can we banhammer anyone who calls it "st patty's day"?

mod request forum imo

took today off...v hungover so it was a good call. don't care what work think of paddy's obvious booze day off. had a date near knightsbridge last night which was absolutely amazing, apart from fact she has a bf. then back to bethnal green and had a few beers till late enough. think i spoke to some people i didn't know, somehow, barely remember it. woke up at 11 and missed a precautionary blood test i had scheduled for this morn.

http://www.achilltourism.com/images/bands-pollagh.jpg

^ how real paddy's day goes

think I would prefer this version

i'm on dmac's side

yesterday i had my first black and tan. felt very patriotic.

by 'this' version I mean the version in dmac's photo

also I really am quite fond of bagpipes

that url says pollagh but rly it's miles from pollagh

That's one of my locals in the background, and several cousins are in shot

ps vg we've got about five pipe bands in 3 square miles. Tho i missed them this year, hence nicking pic from site.

lol if i was home i would upload classic macnas st patricks parades from the 90s

xpost darragh I want to visit!

we need ur touism, i'm on a % here

Xp macnas suck

what is macnas?

rap/trad group started by nas

wait a minute...

ok, funny st patrick's day related story i just remembered from last year.

the saturday after st patrick's day there's generally parades in glasgow where republican flute bands play. These parades and bands are alligned to northern irish political paramilitary republican groups, i.e. one in the east end of the city is put on by the WOSBA who are affiliated with the political wing of the Real IRA and one in the south side of the city is ran by cairde na heireann which is basically the scottish wing of Sinn Fein. as you can imagine these are fairly controversial, especially as their routes take them through working class areas, which while fairly heavily catholic, i.e. govan or shettleston, still have a large minority or small majority of protestants. anyway last year i was sitting in work when a band starts going by, i'd totally forgotten the date and expected it would be an Orange march, as the majority of flute and drum sort of parades in glasgow are and essentially they sound exactly the same and are only audibly discernible if you listen to the melody and recognise the song. maybe a couple hundred people were at it. a group of about 4 guys attacked it, which is almost admirably psychotic, and were chased away, narrowly avoiding a complete doing. one of the guys got away round a corner and obviously believing himself hidden from pursuing police (which he was) and out of the eyes of the public (he wasn't) he proceeded to take off his trousers and his underpants, which he had soiled, he then put his trousers back on and ran away down by the Clyde. the underpants were there for over six months until they one day disappeared.

my manager used to take great joy in pointing them out to people when he walked up the bookies at lunch time.

ha ha wow

Hahaha!

when do people start drinking on st paddy's day

this is the fucking worst

man tonight is gonna be the worst---i live right near a bunch of d-bag bars and fully expect a non-stop parade of ~carousers~ barfing past my windows

― FUN FUN FUN FUN (gbx), Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:36 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

saw at least four different EMS trucks roaring through downtown clevo this afternoon after the parade

― brownie, Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:38 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

::closes eyes, thinks of England::

― brownie, Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:40 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's fine, it's a saturday... will be exactly the same as any other saturday if you're in the uk.

Wow, I didn't even realize it was Friday, let alone St. Patrick's Day eve!

As I understand it, in Ireland the drinking goes on every day, but not at any greatly accelerated pace on st. patrick's day. Of course, given that it's on a saturday this year...

those irish and their liquor

going to a party tomorrow night

in boston

if you see me walking around say hi but you won't

http://thebookwormwife.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/st-patricks-day_thumb.jpg?w=192&h=244

now

well no earlier

NEVER FORGET

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29UMACdfyZw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7-PM_4aeE4

this one is good http://newcity.com/2012/03/16/dime-stories-the-luck-of-the-irish/

i drank old crow and pretended it was jameson

Sing the peasantry, and then
Hard-riding country gentlemen,
The holiness of monks, and after
Porter-drinkers' randy laughter;
Sing the lords and ladies gay
That were beaten into clay
Through seven heroic centuries;
Cast your mind on other days
That we in coming days may be
Still the indomitable Irishry.

(Perhaps notoriously domitable but good folks generally)

xx omg plax I love Galway Girl <3

<3 im from galway, my sisters went to school on salthill, we all learnt sharon shannon songs on the tin whistle growing up.

Lots of moron tourists wearing cheap party favors downtown tonight.

xpost that's so great

not gonna leave the house if i can help it

I've been to Galway, and I very much enjoyed the place. Small, friendly, pleasant pubs, good music scene, swans in Galway Bay, good walking town, etc.

I've never been to Dublin. I don't doubt I'd prefer Dublin over many a big city, but big cities in general are not my delight. That's why I've been to Galway and not to Dublin, fwiw.

I have never been to Ireland but I would v much like to one day.

My Mum was a bit of a trad folk junkie when I was growing up so I got the full dose of local Celtic music festivals and whatnot for a long time, it kinda grew on me. I haaaaaaaaaaate all the drunk assholery with St Paddy's day but I love it as an excuse to pull out all of my Mum's weepy/corny music, lol (which I do actually love)

dublins not really a big city

well in comparison to Galway...

do you guys ever go to parades? and when you do are there lots of pipers?

suck it haters, this is a cat that a friend owns

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/6988979545_a155ca014b.jpg

his name is smeege

i am not a huge fan of american st. patricks day but face it that cat owns u.

Happy St. Pat's, state of Alabama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nda_OSWeyn8

would like SPD a lot better if it was just me drinking with that cat

I have to go to MoMA at 5 pm and am wondering if I need boots to walk thru post-parade fluids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piMqJ8hmgXM

some people are just not made for this world.

h8 this holiday but at least i don't really live by any loud bars

went for a spin down home, just a few pipe bands goin thru the village, pints optional, lots of shamrock and aran knits. nbd.

I was thinking of making something St Paddyish for dinner that didnt involve cabbage, maybe steak & guinness pie...but cannae be arsed, tbqh

and you don't get much more Irish than that

lol

otm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQk-imB1m2k

the end is the best part

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA4ZstxG4ls

dickheads in the building above me playing music at ridiculous decibels after 10 pm, making my entire ceiling shake.

I'm cool w/ parties...I'm cool with minor noise bleedage. I'm not cool with you making my entire unit shake. If you want to throw parties like that, buy a motherfuckin house, not a condo.

It stopped temporarily so I guess someone complained, gonna call the cops if they start up again #captainbuzzkill

i mean the party i came from moments ago was loud but like 1/4th of this volume!

(and wasn't in an apt/condo complex)

Flogging Molly are idiots who should be killed while I dance a merry jig on their grave. HA FUCKING HA.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:00 PM (11 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i hate st patrick's day

i do say that with a touch of guilt b/c my grandma was irish. but she wouldn't support any of the bullshit that happens this day

"everyone's irish on st. patrick's day" uh no, fuck you. i kind of find this phrase oppressive and culturally imperialist, fuck off

http://www.earthcam.com/world/ireland/dublin/?cam=templebar

hell on earth

i grew up in a community with like 95% irish americans and as the only latino in the group i just grew to fucking haaaaate this holiday

somone post the 1991 new york st patricks day parade footage itt

I try not to leave the house at all on this day. Had to go into work for a bit but took the most publess route I could on my way in

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/1966893_10151961985741596_790771948_n.jpg

Yeah i saw that nakh good find

Discussion here re taoiseach attending nyc parade in light of ban on gays marching under lgbt banner kinda interesting

idk what paddys day is like abroad id imagine unpleasant but if i can avoid it here i guess ppl can avoid it wherever

that bit with the old lady shouting "AIDS" is fucking terrifying.

i went for a walk down the riverbank near UL. then i watched "the darjeeling limited" and ate some supermacs. no interest in seeing the parade. one of the more enjoyable paddys day's tbh.

Got the hop twice and obv the day off work, didnt see nor hear of any parade, best paddys ever obv

I celebrate st. pat's day by ignoring how anyone else celebrates it and figuring out just what, if anything, I'm up for. Today, it's sharing a quiet guiness with the wife. End of story.

Not the worst

Town was chockablock with tourists yesterday for their sake i hope it was the standard day, i mean god knows we need the yen/dollars/pounds

my girl just got home and informed me that there is a river of vomit flowing down seventh avenue
she is prone to hyperbole but i think she is serious

one of my sister's in-laws said Mass at St Pats Cathedral today, no shit

idk what paddys day is like abroad id imagine unpleasant but if i can avoid it here i guess ppl can avoid it wherever

So. I was returning from a meeting in central London with some colleagues; as we mingled with the crowds in the early afternoon sunshine, our eyes fell upon a pair of drunks cavorting and blocking the pavement in leprechaun hats and the full rigout. My earlier Six Nations-induced smugness evaporated into the air as I averted my eyes in embarrassment.

Yeah.... Arah but still arent we GREAT CRAIC

As a 2nd generation Irish immigrant of West Yorkshire who went to St Patrick's Junior School, was dragged to and had confirmation at St Patrick's Church (my confirmation name was Patrick) and went on barge trips organised by CYAG (catholic youth activity group) from St Patrick's Irish Centre. Was on the front of the Irish Post in '79 with a group of Irish Dancing kids. Despite their best efforts, I didn't ever feel Irish to even the slightest degree, I don't know how you Americans or whoever who have seen neither a bog nor a boat manage to be so fervently Irish on this day. Don't mean it in a shitty way, always feel neutral about it. I like to drink anyway so it easily passes me by. I always imagine that these big parades in NY or Chicago are more about celebrating that their ancestors gtf out of there and didn't end up in Merseyside or Yorkshire.

The extent to which eg the nyc parade is a distinctly irish-*american* thing is worth noting, def. i have no real fix on what it means in dublin in 2014 to hold a parade about being irish. Papier mache pigs heads, apparently. ?

Out the country idk always felt a different thing, the band was and is a much bigger part of it, i spose there's not much else to parade when there's no local business to throw sweets at you from the back ofa flatbed.

out of the country also less likely to be subject to the traditional Paddy's day downpour tbf

my girl just got home and informed me that there is a river of vomit flowing down seventh avenue
she is prone to hyperbole but i think she is serious

― We hugged with no names exchanged (forksclovetofu), Monday, 17 March 2014 20:15 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

rivervom, past eve and adams, from swerve of gut to bend of bowel, brings us by a commodius emeticus of regurgitation back to dublin castle and environs

bualadh bos, nakh

Maith an fear indeed

idk gyac the boys who moved east afore me swore blind that dub got better weather and its been my experience too tbh

i've never been to a dub parade in my life though!

traditional Paddy's day downpour

maybe its selective memory here but st. patricks day always seems to coincide with our first blast of decent spring weather

not in my part of this great nation! notoriously shit!

Ive seen it either way, mar ya

just seen several signs for "st. patty's day" which seems to become more prevalent every year over here. am i right in saying this is purely an american thing? i mean, no patricks get called "patty" do they?

It's cos of that TV show about the bar imo.

Its an american thing

There are some delicious beef patty's in my local Jamaican café.

my temperamental friend Patrick posted this on fb

http://wildeyedsoutherncelt.com/wp-content/uploads/1900128_10153881737045048_1903516916_n.jpg

Proper (not even country) parade: couple of tractors, fire engines, local supermarket float chucking sweets at the crowd, majorettes, all the scouts/cubs/brownies/guides, rudimentary taekwondo demonstration for a bit of exotic pizazz. Papier mache masks can gtfo.

just found http://paddynotpatty.com/

my gf's daughter (who is 17) - earlier today - "Ah I couldnt be bothered about the parade, its just people waving from bin trucks"

Then when the 9 o'clock news shows the parade in Limerick - "Aw why didnt we go to the parade! We should have went to the parade!"

ya thats doin the rounds morbs, idk im not bothered by it but loads are.

Tractors otm, and old cars too. Weird.

The bands start on the beach at 7am down the island and pint every pub til 11. Every parish has one, members fly home to play, some of em well past centenary status, remarkable stuff rly

i forget that some of you are actually irish and stuff

364 days a year, mo coniollach and everything

i don't even know what that means, that's how irish you are

Óró mo churaichín ó

I firmly believe that the true gael holds forth in the right type of general guttural tone with the odd fada vowel and irish just happens

As far as my secondary school teachers were concerned this was the approach taken, certainly

Mó beag coníollach i lar an iarthar

xp morbzzz dublin airport otm. i'm named patrick and i hate being called patty. in high school a cute girl wanted to call me patty as a nickname and even then i resisted.

can we have a discussion about st patrick's day backlash, actually? yesterday a friend told me that she is fine with everyone celebrating their ethnic heritage except the irish because they are annoying about it. another friend posted a thing on facebook that was like, "st patrick: the first of many britons to have a salutary effect on ireland". he is not irish-american, anglo-american, irish, or english so he has no stake in this at all and he wrote this.

is this kind of thing acceptable? why?

Cos we're white and relatively well accepted as instruments if not wielders of institutional oppression in the US, cos we're drunks with a penchant for lachrymose self aggrandisation when not engaging in domestic nor sectarian violence, because uileann pipes tear the ears off baby angels, because the church because of what we done with independence because we're great craic and love the argument, and other reasons besides

this friend should be told that ireland and its useless diaspora is merely doing the new world's slow learners a favour by making violently obvious the essential obliquity of all (sub)ethnic pride movements and national revivals etc

But really, its cos its an annoying as fuck holiday as observed by 95% of participants id imagine

xp and that too, its satire

^ all holidays imo

yeah i get that it's not "offensive" and should never be confused for actual discriminatory speech because the irish in america are as privileged as anyone but still... it's not my favorite.

lol@ nakh's post though

treesh i feel that this backlash to a backlash has highlighted your residual ethnic identity in a way that you couldn't express originally and positively when we were talking about joyce

resistance to foreign deprecations of the irish is possibly the only deracinated irishness i have other than sometimes finding some dreamy and delusional hibernian spirit in this or that piece of art

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlJRf6jmbMc

I always loved St Patty, especially when I found out we all hail from Ethiopia.
http://www.herald.co.zw/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Haile-Selassie.jpg

I firmly believe that the true gael holds forth in the right type of general guttural tone with the odd fada vowel and irish just happens

As far as my secondary school teachers were concerned this was the approach taken, certainly

I was really surprised to find out that nouns have genders. And that there's more than one dialect! Who didn't have that utterly terrible stomachfreezing fear when they heard Uladh Gaeilge on their aural exam?

Personally, I'm more of a "clearing the head after a bad cold" woman myself. Chaith. Chonaic. Chuaigh.

I honestly believe I would be 100% fluent if it was a language you could curse effectively in.

iirc, the most formal kind of cursing, i.e. 'laying a curse upon' another person, has always flourished in irish. You've only to think of the multitudinous forms of pain and ill-luck you wish to befall your victim and then fire away in as much detail as your imagination can deliver.

We moved btwn ulster and mayo a good bit so after the initial wtf moment with abhainn I chilled out and realised everyone was bluffing

Id imagine its a fuckin great language to curse in, if we but knew our stuff. Id love to speak it well but its hard to get over the teaching of it and the ppl who lobby for it in all the wrong ways and for what seem to be all the wrong reasons

iirc, the most formal kind of cursing, i.e. 'laying a curse upon' another person, has always flourished in irish. You've only to think of the multitudinous forms of pain and ill-luck you wish to befall your victim and then fire away in as much detail as your imagination can deliver.

Id love to speak it well but its hard to get over the teaching of it and the ppl who lobby for it in all the wrong ways and for what seem to be all the wrong reasons

Yeah i give it a hard time by association but in and of itself its gorgeous

Specially singing the sean nos, trilling in english just isnt the same

indeed, I have a lot of love for Irish songs, even the one I pasted upthread which is just a little baby song still stays in my head over twenty years after I learned it in school. only that Jesus song that lists all the apostles (which is the only method I have of naming them!) has had that sort of staying power!

Can someone clarify whether calling an Irishman Paddy is insulting? Preferably someone who was born and raised in Ireland. Sorry.

I'm getting mixed information. I have a good friend from Ireland and was telling her what my cousins were eating to celebrate St Patrick's Day. I didn't tell her they were my cousins nor was I specifically saying who, but she told me what they ate isn't even typical Irish food. I can't remember the dish now. But what's going on here?

Is there a huge divide between what those who were born and raised in Ireland consider to be Irish and Americans with Irish ancestry/heritage who have diluted Irish culture/tradition?

Yes. Basically Irish Americans cling onto shit like Irish dancing and corned beef and donating money to the IRA and many have little recognition of what ~modern Ireland~ is like.

I would not take well to being called a Paddy unless I knew the person. My understanding is that it's a pejorative.

i'm a quarter irish but i presume that cuts me no slack with you savages

Cheers, gyac. Makes sense to me. I'll remember not to bring it up to the American side of my family.

xp

100% of inane internet arguments I've had about NI being occupied by British forces and how we must join the cause to bring about a United Ireland have been with Irish-Americans, who, unlike me a) did not have family in NI, b) did not have family who had actually been attacked & targeted by UVF thugs and c) had spent absolutely no time whatsoever up there. They want a say without knowing anything about the people who live in IRL or what they do.

There are ways of callin someone paddy and ways of callin someone paddy. Stay safe out there, im not v sensitive to it but yknow there're plenty would be

Corned beef comes out a tin and is for sandwiches.

Other than that i cant help tbh i could say we dont drink to excess or taunt gobshites with the promise of rainbowed gold or fight at the drop of a black stuff but eh thats all proven 100% afaict my experience maynt be universal

i'm a quarter irish but i presume that cuts me no slack with you savages

Northern ireland idk leave that well alone ime, ive not lost anyone to it and so im stayin well away from it

Mucksavage is a subset, its what we do to ourselves

@gyac

Man, that sounds so true. My American family means no harm, but I know they get swept up by the usual consumerism. It's difficult when you are inside that type of cultural machine; it's almost unavoidable and I'm sure I am ignorant of some things that are sold to me as 'tradition', though I try to find reason/logic when faced with this type of all encompassing cultural tradition for the most part. At least it brings them together and helps build memories and such.

And you're right, I think it was corned beef what they made.

Thanks, again.

i consider myself corrected.

This year we had cod for St. Patrick's Day supper. I'd have made colcannon, but we already had shepherd's pie the night before. I suspect the corned beef and cabbage thing in the USA is more of a New England/Boston thing, because a nice beef brisket was more likely for folks in the big house instead of the cottagers.

h8 this holiday so much

as a resident of what is one of boston's drunker neighborhoods in general, let alone on occasions like this, I dread this every year despite my considerable pride in my half-irishness

thankfully the southie parade and all its attendant bullshit are already out of the way

the more proud you are of your half-irishness the more you should hate this racist, condescending holiday

i realized that i am a privileged white person and my experience of st patrick's day, which always involves people getting annoyed with me for not wearing green when my name is patrick and i am so0o0o irish, is a far cry from institutional racism. but i still hate it.

i don't hate the holiday - don't allow the holiday to mask the real villain, which is people.

i arrived at work today and two (british) workmates immediately said "happy st patrick's day" and the second one said "why aren't you wearing green" and i said "because you're both here to remind me what race i am".

this was okay because this is generally how i behave in work. it still was kind of irritating though. like on some not too important level there's a real sense of "oh hooray for your little holiday".

well why AREN'T you wearing green?

spite. i look fantastic in green.

as a resident of what is one of boston's drunker neighborhoods in general, let alone on occasions like this, I dread this every year despite my considerable pride in my half-irishness

thankfully the southie parade and all its attendant bullshit are already out of the way

― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, March 17, 2015 8:38 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Brighton? I feel like you mentioned this on some other thread.

I once spent 13 hours in a bar in Brighton Ctr on St. Patrick's Day which is probably the only time I've ever enjoyed the holiday. Oh, the time I danced with a gorilla somewhere near the garden was good too. Both of those were in my very early 20s though and I've pretty much hid inside for every SPD since.

Oh but my fav St. Patrick's Day thing is that when my parents lived in the city before they were married my dad went to the parade and then out drinking for the entire day. Late that night my mom answered the door to find a cop standing there only it wasn't a cop at all but my drunk dad in full police uniform including badge. Somehow he'd wound up drinking with some NYPD and convinced one of them that it would be funny if they switched clothes. My mom was so nervous about it that she took everything and threw it down the garbage chute.

― ENBB, Thursday, March 17, 2011 11:38 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I still love this story.

fuck st patricks day. had some drunk piece of shit tail me and try to get into my girlfriends car on sunday bc he thought we had taken his food from the restaurant we were leaving. called the cops on him though im sure they were preoccupied with other more dangerous drunk pieces of shit.

My friends child (age 6) and his class were told to go into school in green clothes today

Also I spoke with Amazon on the phone today and the Irish woman on the line wished me happy st patricks day.

(ie I'm english)

xxxp brighton center is alright, and the drunkenness is not a hostile kind too often. now I live in a slightly more college-kid-infested part and lived most of my time here in allston, which is even more nuts

what bar was it, if you can remember?

While I don't remember much from that day, I do remember that it was The Green Briar. I've spent a fair amount of time living in Allston and, yeah, it's gross. I once stayed at a friends and counted 7 piles of puke during my two block walk to the T at Harvard and Comm on a Saturday morning. You literally couldn't pay me to go out anywhere tonight but especially not anywhere there.

so glad i don't live in brighton anymore, that was awful

I think it depends on which part you live in. Some are quite nice!

now i live in west rox, very irish but pretty low-key, it ain't southie, lots of newer families who are not irish, too

xp that's true

I've heard v good things about w rox but never been.

I do try to take some time on the day to reflect on the Irish in England, the old days of contempt and fear, how so much of London was built on Irish labour, how hard my family worked, and how I wouldn't be anywhere without that work. I want to remember where I came from; and (got a high horse here, just let me mount), the foam hat guinness pisshead world is a patronising affront to all of that and can go fuck itself forever.

not that my family don't like a drink

So there are cupcakes, soda bread, and bailey's cheesecake down the hall apparently. I take it all back - best holiday!

ok soda bread I'm in

I do try to take some time on the day to reflect on the Irish in England, the old days of contempt and fear, how so much of London was built on Irish labour, how hard my family worked, and how I wouldn't be anywhere without that work. I want to remember where I came from; and (got a high horse here, just let me mount), the foam hat guinness pisshead world is a patronising affront to all of that and can go fuck itself forever.

― woof, Tuesday, 17 March 2015 14:32 (9 minutes ago)

this is the difference between english people and americans, the former remembers the navvies and the 'ra and doesn't really want to be irish, whereas in america irishness serves as the proletarian version of a generic white ideal type of craic/drinking etc, as much as yankee culture dimly animates white bourgeois identity

No better way to celebrate Irishness than watching hurling on TV imo

the green briar is pretty cool! my sister lives in w. roxbury but i haven't spent much time there but seems nice

i always feel ambivalent about the frustrations i do have w/ irish stereotyping, because i steer into a few of those skids - like i will listen to a lot of pogues and dubliners today w/o a doubt and get predictably maudlin (although i do that often enough aside from this holiday), and prob stop in for a whiskey somewhere and/or have one or two at home. and i'm far from a light drinker under most circumstances, as is true of most of my family irish side & otherwise

but, yeah, i remain rankled by an institutionalized cultural problem that stems from a dozen different legitimate historical/cultural factors being turned into a joke by johnny-no-swag bro dipshits and other awful fucks. christ alive those types won't even have irish drinks more than half the time, quit it with the fucking food coloring-saturated bud light

soda bread is good and i like stout too

i've only been able to feel any irishness since leaving. when you're in the country it's so rammed down your throat that it's insufferable. abroad you can benefit from a slightly more truthful sense of what you might have in common with your fellow paddy - given there are fewer of us.

^ this, though I'm not Irish still applies in my case.

p sure the work caf will have corned beef and cabbage today

otherwise, fuck this stupid 'holiday'

i'm irish btw. a little.

this sort of thing is mostly awful

https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=cr&gws_rd=ssl#q=%22what+does+it+mean+to+be+irish%22&tbm=nws

Friend was telling me last night it wasn't a public holiday in Ireland till the 1990s but it was in Boston in 1773... pub talk mibbes.

the former remembers the navvies and the 'ra and doesn't really want to be irish, whereas in america irishness serves as the proletarian version of a generic white ideal type of craic/drinking etc,

basically otm, tho' I feel like the latter attitude's been slipping in to England over the last 10-15 years. Some combination of an English generation who don't remember the hostility, the perpetual spread of ppl identifying as 1/4- and 1/2-irish (+ Dublin stag weekends?), and – in the particular case of St Patrick's – diageo and other alco-giants being very strongly in favour of a holiday committed to drinking.

why do all these ppl in green hate america

go back to letterfrack ye fuckin traitors

sadly i dont think i even have any diageo products to celebrate since i finished the last bottle of talisker

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xpost speaking of irish holidays committed to drinking, thank fuck Arthur Guinness Day has been scrapped. what a cynical load of horseshit that was.

walked to brunch across the redbrick streets of donore and the newly bustling liberties markets. might watch ratatouille now.

paddys day, its what you make of it eh.

might have a Jameson later, stand up for the Pernod-Ricard minnows.

btw despite my 'how hard they worked' i'm not blind to the fucking idiot ugly side of british-irish culture. Last saturday night I found myself having to say "and if anyone in this family has any problem at all with me marrying a tan, they are not welcome at my wedding."

like, I know its ok to be here and proper irish and be able to not do anything nor have to do anything to remain so, and woofs and ronans posts are well taken.

but idk its ppl getting drunk and wearing a costume some will be irish to a lesser or greater extent many won't some will be out west watching floats for roofing companies some will be in Boston puking on leprechauns but its nothing to do with anything, is it.

I'd rather be down home with the pipe bands, the ppl there live the caricature the rest of the year as well in all its warmth and humanity and awfulness besides but its a cleaner thing alright.

xp yeah thatsthe thing! its the mix of cartooning and sanitisation that gets to me about paddies more than anything, and from my first-generation London family its as big a divide as ive seen, like tbh what they do in Boston is as little to me as what they do in Boston every other day of the year. nobody ever et corn beef outside of a sandwich this side of the Atlantic. good luck to them.

anyone with the slightest problem with the quiet man can srsly fuck off tho

not a guinness fan

noted irish poster deems aka 'the irish' should know better than to wolfe tone police his brethren on this of all days

dont pearce this thread with your usual barbs, nakh

if u were irish at all youd appreciate the difference between disagreeing with someone and telling them they're not allowed think/say something

but lol at the ref

shade!

didn't really feel wolfe tone policed. more like deems had just had a few pints and was rambling away - i didn't quite understand the point being made.

i didn't quite understand the point being made, but i'll defend to the death his right to say it

sometimes u get the sense that the irish talks too much about what_it_means_to_ be_irish but i liked your description of polish people as being like better irish people

xpost i think he was trying to say irish american celebrations are so far different from what ireland is about that its not worth getting bothered about. i dunno. thats what i took from it.

deems tries for gnomic and ends up somewhere on the verges of leprechaunic

tru Gaels know what's up mick

xpost i think he was trying to say irish american celebrations are so far different from what ireland is about that its not worth getting bothered about. i dunno. thats what i took from it.

agree with that for sure. none of the celebrations or the day really bother me - as i said upthread it's just people's ignorance about a country 45 mins flight away, a portion of which is part of their own country.

sometimes u get the sense that the irish talks too much about what_it_means_to_ be_irish but i liked your description of polish people as being like better irish people

way way too much - we invented the tone of those buzzfeed "you know you love harry potter too much when". we did that years ago to pump up nostalgic talk of discontinued sweets, own-brand lemonade and our inability to connect with other races.

here's a tip for anyone making traditional irish dinner this evening

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulacht_fiadh

enjoy

ya but idk lg dont the english, Scottish, welsh, rednecks,everyone do that?

sometimes u get the sense that the irish talks too much about what_it_means_to_ be_irish but i liked your description of polish people as being like better irish people

― pom /via/ chi (nakhchivan), Tuesday, March 17, 2015 4:25 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maybe. i think i can and have been accused of this but not only for irishness.

however, i still agree with what darragh says.

i usually get carriewd away and end with "and what about the birthplace of saint patrick?!"

but anyway, personally, i live in north america, so i don't celebrate it at all. but some of my family members do by making corn beef sadly (i can't say anything about it to them, though).

if I'd to eat actual corned beef I'd do it sadly too

I'd a Cajun chicken sandwich safe in the knowledge that niall of the nine hostages would've too if he hasn't been stuck in a ahithole with no hipster cafes

might be more interesting than when i talk about what_it_means_to_ be_from_pittsburgh

I disagree!

corned beef is the best thing about this holiday

pittsburgh is interesting. i watched flashdance recently with someone from pittsburgh, it was a good experience.

I got about 86 cents worth of corned beef today in honor

ya but idk lg dont the english, Scottish, welsh, rednecks,everyone do that?

every nation kinda stereotypes themselves positively - but i do think we are quite naturally predisposed to doing this. i mean, i guess certain nations do it more than others.

I can only speak for the Scots, who are forever loudly blowing their own trumpets (or bagpipes) before sinking into a sullen self-doubting stupor.

i'll eat corned beef any other day. today, you know, i'd rather eat something irish

*crickets*

Though the idea of the Scots are as any kind of nation that hangs together is moot as they all hate each other, more or less. (xp)

actually scratch that, everyday i eat potatoes, who am i kidding

there's more of an indulgence and demand for that sort of selfreferential nonsense when the nation is small and historically disenfranchised and its culture more uncertain

so you get official policies of nurturing separateness and people like deems cosplaying culchie for an international audience in a hilarious nod and wink to the history of anglo/irish relations

pfft you've been to achill mayne

just because you are something doesn't mean you can't cosplay it

xpost nostalgia is handy for selling products, building some false sense of national unity and keeping people amused which is why the nostalgia thing has went into overdrive in the austerity years (see also: that fucking Johnson, Mooney and O'Brien advert). like the 80s were somehow more genuine because they were harsher. or how we lost the run of ourselves in the celtic tiger and are now we have to suffer for our transgressions.

Big overlap with the far-flung Irish pubs thread but I always find it interesting to see how it's celebrated in countries with no significant Irish population. I was in Moscow this weekend (officially Moscow Ireland week) and I think Vienna last year. There is the same kind of leprechaun hatted cosplay element but no real culture of Bostonian drinking until you collapse.

I remember my surprise the first time I saw what the Americans call corned beef and it didn't look like :

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And what it actually is:

https://youtu.be/7mIMIUqAa3w

approx my 45th annual pretense that i am not of Irish descent

My awesome new work friend is from Pittsburgh so we talk about Pittsburgh a lot. I don't think she's Irish.

I am actually at least 1/4 Irish or something like that. My mom has a v v Irish name. I have no idea why I am telling you this.

cos its paddys and ur drunk

Oh, right!

i celebrated st patrick's day by reading this thread.

happy st patrick's day!

http://i.imgur.com/0X3UDCB.png

my blowhard theory is that there are Food Holidays (tgiving, xmas, 4th) that are good, and Sex Holidays (NYE, h'ween, st pat's) that are very bad

haloween is amazing.

nye 2013 and 2014 were the worst days of those respective years for me

halloween is a sex holiday? i've been doing it wrong apparently

i don't see a lot of slutty easter costumes, idk

halloween is a combo of a Sex Holiday and Kids Holiday, especially noxious

i hate it.

yeah I realized that's what you meant afterwards the last time I dressed up was 10 years ago and I was Bea Arthur so

https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/20819_10152831696981553_5788323386258770869_n.jpg?oh=b3e863a35dadfa5a18c0e5c93626e585&oe=557E2504

I'd have been very confused at sexy halloween ref until I moved to dublin and oh boy sexy times indeed

http://images.halloweencostumes.com/products/3107/1-1/sexy-leprechaun-costume.jpg

http://lgcdn.amiclubwear.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/c/o/costume-men-aaa8-4481green_1_1.jpg

what's the modh connioloch on 'smash'

tá m'árthach foluaineach lán d'eascanna

should i eat a potato tonight or not?

embrace the potato, dr

make it yukon gold

feiseoinn (?)

or, smashfainn

Have always preferred this Welsh Saint to most of the Irish Twats in my family.

ha i hate halloween, too.

it's basically lying >:[

In the United States and Canada, consumption of corned beef is often associated with Saint Patrick's Day.[13] Corned beef is not considered an Irish national dish, and the connection with Saint Patrick's Day specifically originates as part of Irish-American culture, and is often part of their celebrations in North America.[14]

I believe corned beef and cabbage started out as 'New England boiled dinner', but then Boston filled up with Irish immigrants and the connection was made.

i like goole's theory of holidays

also a halloween hater

has halloween always been a slutty/nihilistic holiday for adults? I feel like it's been getting a little worse every year. was it this bad in 1980?

the divey gay bar around the corner is doing 1) green beer and 2) corned beef and posting this on its fb page:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/10305059_10204136581157218_3971618446912509414_n.jpg

everyone should be glad that didn't work.

lol

tick.jpg

I don't recall adults participating in Halloween AT ALL in 1980, at least in the suburbs.

survived this year by don't of behaving perfectly normally, phew