Things that suck about New York: A List

Rent (not the play)

real estate fixation

street cred

foodies

and what you get for the rent (mostly)

xpost

inter-borough subway navigation

with the exception of Manhattan obv.

the importance of money

Yeah I wanna live in one of those cities where you barter pigs.

the weather

no good swimming

jerks

the relatively too much importance of money xpost

banks

connecticut muffins

baby boutiques

no good swimming - just wait'll they resurrect the McCarren Park Pool

swimming pools are not good swimming - think lakes

or sea

i enjoy the beach but its not really prime swimming - ft tildon is recommended

how about oceans jhøshea?

anyone who swims at coney island is fucking disgusting

anyone who swims at coney island is fucking disgusting - but I love it anyway

i love coney island too but i would not swim there

ive seen people swimming in the east river oh god

That they closed the myrtle avenue el in the 60s.

i swam at brighton beach (next to coney) a few times in the 80s. no worse than a medium-funky lake.

but the jerzey shore is much better swimming than long island (tho i've never been to the hamptons)

imagine that! 27 years in nyc and i've never been to the hamptons. don't know the right people I guess which leads to one of the things I think suck about new york

the class system, snobbery etc.

That they closed the myrtle avenue el in the 60s.

-- Ed, Saturday, May 3, 2008 11:10 AM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

ha yah it would be occasionally useful did not not know abt that - tho elevated tracks are some of the most oppressive architecture in the world

have you ever swam @ the rockaways? its nice water is clean beach is clean doeant feel like the funky city - like i said ft tildon is my spot

Under the el tracks does suck but when I come come back from new york I miss the rattle of the M train outside the bedroom window. (I'd hate to be right by it though).

yah income inequality is so O_o around here - youve got a sizable chunk of all the wealth in the world then like 8% of the city is in public housing

(xpostage) yeah used to take the A train. can be pretty desolate there, or it used to be.

more complaints:

social climbers and/or
careerist egomaniacs

they have em everywhere but something about NY attracts ^^ or maybe amplifies these qualities in people

loud people

haha I'm one of those

shhhhhhhh

psychological speed and stress
no in and out burger

going out all the time instead of hanging out at peoples homes

feeling so cooped up in the winter

People stand in front of subway doors not adjacent to them when waiting to board, when will people learn it is slower that way.

u cant actually hail a water taxi

that bullshit planned for ground zero (transit hub excepted)

Mexican food as prepared by Chinese people

haha yes^

time warner cable

The line at immigration in terminal 7 at jfk.

No daily price capping on the metrocard.

how difficult its is to leave the city

lol it took you two hours to rent a car and u have been driving an hour and yr still in the bronx - oh wait you thought you were free how abt this mystifying chronic back up in bridgeport wtf

taxi tv

Nightlife photographers.

puke on yr stoop (selected neighborhoods only)

The debacle of gaining admission to concerts for a reasonable price if you are not really quick on the draw right when tickets go on sale or, more broadly, the maddening conundrum being a concert-going enthusiast in a city where, on any given night, there are 27 bands playing you'd love to see but your broke ass can barely afford to refill your Metrocard so you spend most of those nights at home watching television or at the pub down the street drinking $3 PBRs and becoming increasingly hardened and bitter.

puke on the train (see: brooklyn bound q approx 10:30 last night)

loud neighbors

rent (the musical)

gallery culture

crowded bars on weeknights

walking in Williamsburg west of the BQE on a weekend night

going out all the time instead of hanging out at peoples homes

^ this

Arriviste kvetching

Tourist economy

Snobbish concierges, salespeople etc. at upscale joints who are under the illusion that, because they operate with the sphere of privilege, they are somehow given license to condescend all over yer unrefined, proletariat ass. I guess this is a pretty universal phenemonon, but it seems especially prevalent in NYC.

Safe image promotes city to morons

i actually haven't noticed that at all in 10 years of living there but perhaps it's because they can smell the money wafting from my clothes and top hat

xpost

i would actually say: imperious assholes with entitlement issues who expect people in the service industry to grovel for them

Pillbox otm

try working as a coatcheck in a fancy restaurant and you'll see what i mean

Well obviously

people

um, i kinda like some of these things

yes im am v glad to not have to work in the service sector

the bqe

Walking/biking/skating under the BQE is a joy on a cool summer night.

august

nyc jazz snobs

hard to get decent paying gigs

Tracer - I typically have no problem (and can usually empathize) with disgruntled or at least decidedly un-jocular waiters, doorman and such, and I'm sure working in the service industry on any level in NYC is soul-sucking to some degree. My quip was focused on those who sneer at you from their lofty perches behind Soho boutique counters because you're not draped in Prada or whatever, when they were barely able to purchase their own thin sliver of haute couture with an employee discount on their $15/hour wage, most of which gets spent on rent for a room in a miniscule shared apartment in the same neighborhood in Brooklyn that you also live. You know, that sort of thing.

the prevalence of anorexia
the prevalence of cocaine
the obsessive personal grooming fixation
not being able to afford an apartment with a backyard
the mta being bastardos

all shows i want to see being in fucking bushwick

times square

too much delicious food to eat, makes me fat

uppity old manhattanite women who wear fur.

people who bitch and moan about new york all the time

34 street

soho

car alarms

opposite side parking

burt stanton

Ugh, one of my saddest memories of NYC was seeing a father teaching his young child how to ride a bicycle along a dirty back alley. NYC is not a place to raise children. I don't care, children need yards.

On that note, NYC is not the end all be all of all cities in the world. It IS possible to leave and *gasp* be HAPPY in another place.

err alternate side parking
sorry still in bed

i have friends who raise children here and seem to be doing aok.

but yes, it would be really hard and i don't know how i'd pull it off, personally.

Ugh, one of my saddest memories of NYC was seeing a father teaching his young child how to ride a bicycle along a dirty back alley. NYC is not a place to raise children. I don't care, children need yards.

-- youcangoyourownway, Saturday, May 3, 2008 1:25 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

Almost forgot: people who never leave manhattan

lol i knew this girl who lived here her entire life and would get tummy aches if she had to leave - like just going upstate even

new york sports teams

I dated someone who couldn't tell me the last time she left the NYC area was.

how everyone is a know it all

j/k i love that part^

Attractive women my own age living empty lives through conspicuous consumption

That Wednesday night is the new Thursday night which was the new Friday night, meaning it's impossible to go out to dinner in peace any night except Monday and Tuesday in Manhattan.

few people have cars in which to drive me delightful places

moving

insaneo scenery ravaging sartorial trends

people actually notice your fingernails and how white your teeth are

As someone who has lived in both cities, I find it shameful (shameful!) that the 'things that suck about New York' list is more than twice as long as the 'things that suck about London' list. Really, people!

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im actually reaching to come up w/things i hate - i <3 this place srsly

when the subway trash car comes

or when a train or bus that's "out of service" goes by

people who bitch and moan about new york all the time

-- Catsupppppppppppppp dude ??, Saturday, May 3, 2008 5:11 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Thanks, jho

Not to quibble, but most of these items would have a hard time making the B list, let alone the A list.

when people say OMG THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CHANGED SOOOOO MUUUUCH

#1^ combines real estate fixation w/street cred grubbing

yah g00b keep in mind new yorkers are prob just more proficient complainers than teh brittishes - u know stiff upper lip and whatnot

my biggest problem with ny is that i can't afford to have the life i would be able to have somewhere else, but that problem is more about me being poor and wanting a backyard and extra money to travel to europe or something.

NYC is not a place to raise children. I don't care, children need yards.

well i've got two kids now in a manhattan apt., we'll see how it goes. i grew up in rural areas, had woods and creeks and everything and i'll miss him having that. (although we'll take a lot of trips to visit rural relatives so he gets some sense of it.) but the older one is big enough that we can go on outings all over. he loves just wandering around central park (and the zoo), taking the subway down to watch the ferries at battery park, peeking down into the basements of stores that leave their cellar entries open -- the city's a big exciting mystery to him. it's a different kind of childhood than mine but so far i don't think it's a bad one. lack of living space is the biggest issue, but that's more a problem for me and my wife than it is for the kidz.

anyway, i don't really hate much about nyc apart from the ridiculous expense. or, i guess i should say, the things i do hate -- the corporatization, chainification, blandification, etc -- are things i could and would hate anywhere in america, because they're everywhere.

(sorry, said him when i meant "them." i'm still adjusting to the idea that we have two of them...)

the MTA's war on people who live in places that aren't manhattan

yah g00b keep in mind new yorkers are prob just more proficient complainers than teh brittishes

moaning is a national past-time!

Defend Brooklyn shirts
"Artists"

the thing that scares me about having kids in ny is the competitiveness of other parents to get kids into the best kindergarten or whatever...my boss has an private college counselor for her kids lined up already and the oldest is in 7th grade.

I don't think I want my kids to be raised entirely in new york -- they'd be so out of touch. I should get a place in the Hamptons so they see the country!

yah to me the only thing that seems like itd be really weird w/raising kids in the city is do they get any unsupervised time? like when i was eight id just go off riding bikes w/friends or whatever.

seems like a lot of kids around here are totally dialed into home/school/etc activities until theyre like 12 then they go all buck out on their own

also nyc kids are frighteningly precocious

http://www.celebritywonder.com/img/movieposter/tn/2002_Tadpole.jpg

http://nymag.com/news/features/41539/

^ lol @ nike id

the thing that scares me about having kids in ny is the competitiveness of other parents to get kids into the best kindergarten or whatever...my boss has an private college counselor for her kids lined up already and the oldest is in 7th grade.

yeah we've already seen some of that. we can't afford to play at that game anyway, so we just make fun of it.

the time-on-their-own thing is an issue. a lot of this i guess we'll just deal with as it comes.

when people say OMG THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CHANGED SOOOOO MUUUUCH

esp from new york natives

yah like things change thats what they do - wise up fools

i was meeting this girl at a restaurant and it had been changed to a diff. restaurant and she whined so much i thought she was gonna cry soon. it was weird.

lol there were these two wicked drunk dudes on my corner last nite

dude 1: WHAT THE FUK HAPPEND TO FT GREENE WE GOTTA GET THE FUK OUTTA HERE WE GOTTA GET BACK TO THA HOOD!

dude 2: but how we gonna get back to the hood man :(

dude 1: WE'LL RIDE THE IRON HOOOORRRSSSEEE!!!!!

they were leaning on the subway entrance

lulz

when people say OMG THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS CHANGED SOOOOO MUUUUCH

guilty as charged

commuting during rush hour
the stress and anxiety

the yankees

yah to me the only thing that seems like itd be really weird w/raising kids in the city is do they get any unsupervised time? like when i was eight id just go off riding bikes w/friends or whatever.

seems like a lot of kids around here are totally dialed into home/school/etc activities until theyre like 12 then they go all buck out on their own

also nyc kids are frighteningly precocious

it's all so different than my idyllic suburban childhood. my son is 12 now and the unsupervised time thing is something I worry about but as a result of urban living, perhaps, he's not real adventurous, for instance I ride the subway w/him going to school. he walks by himself a bit, over to a freind's in the neighborhood.

there's variation among NY kids though, some aren't as precocious or independent as you might think.

aggressive dog walkers

jw's future children

lack of outdoor basketball courts

brooklyn thai restaurants

the slow stretch between bergen and jay streets on the f train

actually, though, i'm continually amazed at how well nyc actually works. i mean, the trash pretty much gets picked up on time, shit gets taken care of, to a certain extent, etc. i'd be hard pressed to run a place with eight million people quite as well

brooklyn thai restaurants otm!

the fact that you have to wait till the end of times if you need a subway after midnight

whine about that all you want, at least nyc has a subway that runs after midnight

true. i spent one night stuck in the london subway waiting two hours for it to open with a big can of fosters beer in my hand, nodding off.

^^^yes

youre right, but its still fun to whine

xxpost

when i was living in barcelona i used to bring a book whenever i went out at night because i knew id need to wait an hour or more for the trains to start running again so i could get home

G train after 7:00 pm

for everything great about ny i do think i will move eventually, because i am more suited to a quieter and more relaxing life. and i get panicky about not being able to save money and buy property and all that other stuff people my age are doing in other parts of the country.

oh, and the heat/smell during summer on the subway platforms

lol max stuck at penn station overnight: "it's okay -- i've got a book!"

haha the greatest lesson i ever learned--ALWAYS bring a book

brooklyn thai restaurants - I don't know what you're looking for, but Erb and Ott in Greenpoint are both quite good for (relatively) inexpensive Thai take out. I've heard good things about the Thai Cafe as well, but I've not been there myself.

how do they compare to Sripraphai?

who is buying all the flowers at every corner store?

guys who are dating girls with birthdays.

how do they compare to Sripraphai?

I wouldn't know. The only other Thai restaurant I've been to in Brooklyn was a sit-down joint in Williamsburg. I can't remember the name of the place, but I recall that it had a sort of industrial-minimalist decor: Lots of brushed steel, corrugated metal and such. The food was pretty good, but this was about five years ago so..

sripraphai is in queens, and you should go. i think it's the ILX consensus for best thai in NYC?

Ian - thanks for the tip. I'll make a note of it. I'm not currently living in NYC, but I'll be moving back sometime early next year, so I'll check it out then.

ratatat

not just ILX consensus, pretty much universal NY consensus, though some people rep for Arunee in Jackson Heights or Chao Thai in Elmhurst, or Zabb Queens. But there's no Thai food in brooklyn that comes close to any of these Queens places.

Lack of cheap places to play racquetball.

the trash pretty much gets picked up on time
^ hahahahahaha not here

lack of outdoor basketball courts

-- mookieproof, Saturday, May 3, 2008 3:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

joking?

guys who are dating girls with birthdays.

and/or married to wives with birthdays, anniversaries, who just got a new job, who just had a baby. (see also guys who are going to be out all the next night playing poker, seeing a band, drinking with friends, etc. pick a relationship cliche, and you can sell a bouquet to it.)

xp, srsly

ja even the men's shelter dudes by my house got a court

One of the only things you can't really get in New York is the warmth of a smaller city (although I guess some will say they get that in their neighborhood). On any given day/night there are so many amazing things to do. But my Philly friends are much more coalesced around their much smaller scene, and I sort of like the feeling there. There might only be one or two cool things to do on a given weekend instead of 20, but you can assume a lot of your friends will be at whichever thing it is, whereas in NYC it always feels like a nightmare to corral more than a few people to do anything.

Also contributing to that vibe is the fact that things are cheaper in Philly, places are bigger and people hang out in each other's homes more.

That said, a lot of smaller American cities suck balls.

i do wish there was more hanging at people's houses. i'd love to have cozy dinner parties, etc. but my living space isn't really set up for it. and yeah, wrangling people together is very difficult.

uppity old manhattanite women who wear fur.

c'mon if aging upper-east side, madison ave shoppin women like this didn't exist new york wouldn't be new york any more, i'll take their ridiculously out of date faded glamour over tribeca prada clones any day

and dg's right, new yorkers can't touch the uk in the moaning stakes

- everyone's on some kind of scam in new york, or trying to

It seems like the only relationships that form in New York have some kind-of -purpose- to them ... sex, business, what have you. It can get a little dehumanizing after a while.

The fact that so many cool/ interesting people from smaller cities feel obliged to move to New York instead of staying home and making their own cities more interesting and cool.

Also, the fact that people complain about NY all the time but refuse to move someplace more livable.

The rent, the thin walls, the crowds in midtown. Living and working in Queens, though, I'm pretty inured from a lot of the things that used to bother me: the pretentiousness, the scenesterism, the superficiality.

I agree with Martin van Buren. If you don't like that the G train never goes past Court Square anymore, you should really move to Lawrence, Kansas.

But my Philly friends are much more coalesced around their much smaller scene, and I sort of like the feeling there.

see, i don't really view this as a plus. it might seem nice when you're a visitor, but i've spent a lot of time in places like melbourne and copenhagen where there's a really cool/fun smaller scene... then a week later you realize its always the same 100 fucking people at every single happening. wouldn't you get bored of that?

wrangling people together is very difficult.

The wrangling is the worst, some people just don't seem to know what to do when invited round for dinner. Dealing with small inconvenient kitchens is easy by comparison. That said:

Small inconvenient kitchens that seem to be an afterthought.

not everyone is the social butterfly that you are, phil. i'd be fine with seeing the same 100 people for the rest of my life; the rest of ya'll can go get fucked. xp

I don't socialize enough to begin with and then I always feel like I'm dividing my social time between too many different people and things and never really developing relationships.

I mean since I left my college town and moved to NYC (Jersey City, anyway).

the good thing about the anonymity and having a million things to do is never having to run into exes (unless you live in the same neighborhood or something). small cities seem like everyone has dated everyone else.

haha how quickly you forget your time in the burg, linds!

(not meant as a dig at you personally, just that i recall you running into ppl or not going to certain bars to avoid running into ppl)

yeah, there are only so many dicks one can suck in a small city. in nyc, ENDLESS.

haha well, that's pretty much only true for williamsburg
which is another thing that sucks about nyc

like i can CHOOSE to avoid daddy's or wherever, it's not like that's the only game in town.

right but that's the case everywhere. i mean, you shouldn't say you 'never' run into exes in ny if the reason you don't run into them is because you avoid places you know they'll be. that's pre-meditated not-running-into?

i will put up with everything in this list x1000 as long as it doesn't mean moving back to florida ever.

otm. i think nostalgically about sc now because i know i'll never go back.

NYC feels like a pretty small place when you're living there. It's a big city, but I mean ... if you're some mid-20s white person who works in the media, it's not like you're going to be spending all your time at some skeevy Russian dive bar in Bensonhurst. It's cut up into little segregated, demographic chunks.

i will go back to maine someday.

i went back to chicago for what was supposed to be 1 year. i lasted 2 weeks

burt stanton, the problem is not new york city, the problem is the way you view it in relation to yourself.

What the fuck does that mean?

you are perfectly at liberty to go explore the other available demographic chunks. diversify!

it means your complaint is something you can easily fix yourself if you try harder you little brat.

exactly.

move to queens!

it means your complaint is something you can easily fix yourself if you try harder you little brat.

weren't you just calling me a social butterfly for not wanting to see the same 100 people all the time?

i think one of the best parts about ny is that i have moved every year i've been here in lived in totally different places and gotten to know different parts of the city and tried lots of restaurants and parks and things i wouldn't have experienced otherwise.

let's all move to staten island

I didn't even mention a problem. What I said is, people mingle with their own kind in NYC and they generally don't like outsiders, that's why it ends up feeling like a small city ... you end up bumping into the same people over and over again. If you're in Williamsburg, take a chance on Junior and Son if you want to mingle with "other demographics", and see how they like that.

people will usually be nice to you if you come into their establishment to spend money, even if it is not a place full of your "demographic". just be polite and tip well.

i've been trying to start mingling with cute architects, but i dont know where they hang out!

Sometimes. But in some cases they get violent. There's like this spidey sense where you know what places you should never walk into

though if you are a self-entitled brat who can't be polite, for all means stick to your 5 bars where you can act like an idiot.

i suggest you look into Architects & Engineers For 9/11 Truth, as advertised to me today by some fellow with a pamphlet. xooo

phil, my friend dated an architect that she met at MARZ BAR

yeah, burt stanton givin off serious crypto-racist vibes. pxpxpxpxp

i mean, i know the places i should never walk into, and they're usually filled with white people in their twenties and thirties.

and it's not that i think the yuppies are gonna get violent, i just don't like their overpriced coffee or appletini nonsense.

Crypto-racist? The only two places I mentioned were: Russians in Bensonhurst and old Italian dudes in Williamsburg. I think the crypto-racism you're talking about is your own.

Huh, yeah, okay buddy.

watch out for the i-talians in carroll gardens, they'll stuff you full of lasagne and shit

when i lived in cg an old lady videotaped us smoking pot in the backyard and called the cops.

also we had to take our wind-chime down because it was "too loud"

i mean, i know the places i should never walk into, and they're usually filled with white people in their twenties and thirties.

where are these garden of eden bars you frequent that have no white people in their twenties and thirties?

but it was all worth it for the LARD BREAD xpost

well, you gotta offer the old ladies a hit, sure

the old guy who lives in the next apartment from mine came over once when me & elmo oxygen were smoking a bowl on the day of the west indian day parade and he was all "watcha burnin man?" and i thought he was gonna narc us out but he only wanted a hit.

phil, my friend dated an architect that she met at MARZ BAR

ah fuck, im trying to diversify and meet cute architects who do things like have dinner parties and have nice furniture. not other "social butterflies" who also happen to be architects. maybe there's a bar in like UWS or Tribeca where these architects hang out? please ask your friend's ex!

ha. i can try. but i don't think she talks to him anymore.

sounds like yer mad that i called you a social butterfly, phil, as this is the second time you've brought it up. do you want to talk about it? over a nice cup of free trade coffee in a hip lower east side cafe?

maybe hang out at design within reach?

i went to an "talk" there the other and it seems like there were lots of those types of people

ah, yes, design within reach events.. that could work....... thanks! landing a cute architect or oil baron or top chef - my dream.

they need people to work their warehouse sale (for shit money and 80% furniture) if you are interested. though the oil barons probably just order from the catalogue.

80% OFF furniture
god i cant type today

do i have to lift things?

at 80% off their design might actually be within reach!

i have no idea. i think you just have to fill out sales slips. but it's in nj.

hang out at the Storefront for Art and Architecture and attend talks and openings

http://www.storefrontnews.org/

also Pratt, Columbia, and NYU have architect lecture series

you should ask a yahoo question abt this to amuse us

Ahhhh awesome! thanks!

phil, i got a job at s4nti4ago calatr4v4's office on the ues, but turned it down because i realized i never want to work for architects again and he paid so shitty. I was like, you are spanish and come from the land of the euro. wtf.

aw yerac, if you worked on the UES i would make you get lunch with me

sorry, i also was really picky about the commute, i couldn't deal with having to change from the express to local at 60th st with that long escalator ride to get to the local.

yeah that stupid escalator is not working half the time too! (switch at grand central?)

the commute was only like number 3 or 4 of the reasons i couldn't work there. architects work such long hours and that was against my work ethic.

haha any future commutes will seem dreamy after my year of 3 trains to flatbush

hm youre turning me off of architects

o come on everyone knows architects are all a bunch of workaholic careerist freaks

someday, i will get a job at the brooklyn museum, have a five minute walk to work, and then i'll never want to leave new york. when i think about things that would make me happy, walking to work is like #2 (after being a millionaire and not having to work at all)

i don't feel like i have met any gay ones. when i worked for the place that did all the am3ric4n app. stores not a single one was gay even though that would've been the place to hold them.

closeted, surely.

yah start applying to walkable places now - make it happen homie

oh i don't really know much about architects except they're cute and wear martin margiela. had no idea they work so hard. doing what!! just drawing some lines and shit?

yeah Yerac, i dont think ive met more than one gay architect. maybe i'll have to settle for an interior designer

when i worked in my neighborhood i would take the subway about once a month and that was usually to go to trader joes.

my sister is in landscape architecture school and is shocked there are no gays in her program!

a friend of mine is in landscape architecture school and its just him and a bunch of ladies - he is not gay

AUTOCAD, phil. I think there are very few architects that make very good money.

yeah for some reason i know way too many architects. and i can't recall a single gay one.

if i worked in my hood i would finally get a dog cos i could go walk it on my lunch break <3<3

seriously 2 hours extra in my day not spent on the train would make rainbows pop out of my eyes

maybe because gays with design sense become clothing designers.

guys arts management: tons of gays
phil, start attending fancy cultural events

oh, wait, yerac=carey?

i work in grand central now so my commute can sometimes be only 20 minutes, but i still leave an hour in advance just in case the l train is having a hernia.

living off the l train and trying to get anywhere by 9 was a nightmare.

puerto ricans with boxcutters slicing u up and takin ur hubcaps

my commute via l to rock ctr was not too bad, but i had a 30 min window in which to arrive to work so i could handle the l insanities.

i would love to be able to walk to work at some point, but that would inevitably require moving to manhattan.

getting to work by 10 was ok, the train just always seems to fuck up at 8- 8:30 am which sucked when i had to get to a meeting or something.

working from home will solve all your commute problems.

i wish i could think of something productive i could do at home to make money.

yeah whenever i have schooltime and try to catch the l at 8 i am screwed.

i wish i could think of something productive i could do at home to make money.
start a blog

Jill Scully, 31, of Pescadero, California, doesn't sneak up on fiancé Nicholas Woodman, 32, in his lair, a barn outfitted with $13,000 of race car simulation equipment.

Nicholas, an amateur club circuit racer and owner of a digital sports camera company, takes the jostling driver's seat for hours on end -- helmet on, lights off, surround sound blaring. Interrupting her fiancé might make him "crash," so Jill, who helps run Nicholas' company, waits until the end of the "race" before announcing herself.

no room for this in my apartment

no room for this in my apartment

a girl?

things that rule about new york: when the weather is exactly like it is today.

also: beer gardens that allow dogs and have happy hour until 7 directly across the street from my house

The dude upthread is right about Junior & Sons on Williamsburg. I walked in there innocently after just moving to the neighborhood thinking it was just another dive bar. Talk about bad vibes, man.

oh, the apartment listings on Craigslist are discouraging.

If I move to a place costing $150 more per month I will be doing lots more of my drinking at home.

good luck morbs
there are some ~$1000/month listings up in a coffee shop by my house if you are interested in crown heights.

are they near where there was that home invasion this morning?

I should get a loft and sublet a room to Dr. Morbius. xpost wait waht

what home invasion is this?

somewhere on washington in crown heights this morning.

lol "home invasion" = break-in?

I'll be moving back to Broklyn for school this summer. Anyone know anything good?

i am just quoting teh news lol

washington is considered prospect heights...

they said crown heights on the news, maybe it was further north?

oh wait i found an article
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6122349
that's not really close to my house - i think above eastern parkway is generally safer.

i'm not saying crown heights is really safe or anything.

That weird Cindy someone gossip person in the NY Post newspaper

People that walk 10 feet in front of you to take a cab when you're there first (happens everywhere, but worst in NY).

Scaffolding that's up for 5 years.

Chelsea

Not many good underground clubs / parties

$7 beers.

Summerstage

Blogs about NYC gentrification / architecture.

assholes that walk around with golf umbrellas

People that walk 10 feet in front of you to take a cab when you're there first (happens everywhere, but worst in NY).

I threatened someone for doing this in greenpoint :)

assholes that walk around with golf umbrellas

-- bell_labs, Monday, May 5, 2008 4:53 PM (17 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

this makes me want to carry an umbrella that has a box cutter on the top

golf umbrellas, and those damned rolling briefcases that people drag a foot behind them.

girls that work for fashion magazines

guys that work for hedge funds

sagging linoleum staircases

did we already say trust fund bitches?
even if we did, it bears repeating.

man-spas

"stop snitchin"

bullshit domestic arguments that end up attracting the police at 2am

neighbors having bullshit domestic arguments at 2 am every other night (no cops though)

that can be arranged

upstairs neighbors having crying baby at 3 am every night

also, i like SAFE for neighborhood

when i was growing up, our upstairs neighbor sculpted and sang arias at 3 am. which is kinda d but kinda c too.

well, i haven't been robbed yet.

women who relate specifically to the characters in sex & the city and use them as a reference point to navigate "city life"

there are people that actually live here that do that?

yes
see also - people that blog about their sex lives

people that blog about their sex lives

^^^sort of an everywhere thing, maybe the sex thing is more nyc-specific?

Chelsea

lol true

jerks

-- jhøshea

i think this covers abt 90% of it

i don't know, i kinda prefer someone keeping the sex on their blog rather than talking about it every time you see them

haaaa

sayin'

'someone'

...

those damned rolling briefcases that people drag a foot behind them.

-- burt_stanton, Monday, 5 May 2008 20:58 (1 hour ago) Link

I have one of these. But I only drag it around NJ.

I saw someone with a rolling briefcase/suitcase trip over someone else with a rolling briefcase getting off the escalator at Grand Central. It was awesome because the dude who tripped got to look like a dick for glaring at the other guy.

You guys don't know the hell of WORKING in Times Square; I am rapidly becoming the most misanthropic person I know.

i know it's not nearly as bad as you have to go through, but i am there twice a week and i have turned into the person that mutters obscenities about tourists while attempting to walk down the street.

You guys don't know the hell of WORKING in Times Square

I did four years at 1515 Broadway! The peak era of German tourists in Michael Jordan shirts.

try living in times square; i used to live on 46th between 5th and 6th... just picture it

can't imagine, must've been like living in a hotel

i hated working around Rockafella Centah too.

way back in the day i worked over by bloomingdales (and alexanders) which I sort of liked better than midtown, probably cause it was such a change from where i was living downtown

5th and 6th is unpleasant. I'm on 42nd street between 7 and 8 ave. I walk to work via 34 and broad. What's most bothersome is the tedious sameness of banality and minor frustrations; it's as if I'm stuck in a pedestrian commuter Groundhog Day of idiocy.
I also work in a basement, so that's likely contributing to my nasty attitude; it's either jam packed tourists and teens on parade or underground cubicle.

'someone'!

It is not LA.

The baseball teams

I stayed in an apartment on 45th between 8th and 9th. The bathtub was in the kitchen. My friend and I lasted maybe three hours before we freaked out and checked into a hotel.

What the hell is wrong with that?

i have turned into the person that mutters obscenities about tourists while attempting to walk down the street.

i do this every single day. i'm also afraid that i'm going to snap some morning when tourists get on the bus and ask if it goes to the muesum of science and industry then proceed to pepper the bus driver with questions about how to get to every point of interest in the chicagoland area. just get on the bus, pay your fucking fare and sit down. some of us are trying to get to work.

it's cool that you guys and your tourists use buses

maybe someday new york can finally achieve the impossible dream of a functioning and useful bus system

People who feel perpetually downtrodden by the upper class fux

No matter who or what you are, there's always somebody sneering at you from above. That's the one positive/negative about the place ... it forces you to get your shit together.

lazy and entitled 25 year olds doing a shitty job with easy administrative work because they think its beneath their talents.

i take the bus in brooklyn fairly regularly. granted that during most hours it's faster to walk in manhattan, buses are pretty useful and (gasp) reliable late night when they don't have to contend with traffic and stopping every 2 blocks.

Tracer, I hope you're kidding, Brooklyn has a GREAT bus system! There are complains about it like anything else but in my experience it's more than "functional".

the buses in brooklyn are fine, as long as you don't have to be anywhere at a specific time and look at their schedules as more of a suggestion.

Daddy's bar in Williamsburg. No buy backs, a snobby crowd devoid of any sexual energy whatsoever (hipsters are afraid of adult sexuality, you can tell by the way they call each other "kids" and play childhood games like kickball), and bartenders who act very inconvenienced if you order the hot dogs they offer.

ok, if you wanted to take a bus from atlantic ave and flatbush to the lower east side, how would you do it?

Bartenders in NY are generally dicks.

I think I've taken a bus once in 6 years in NY.

xp - yeah, getting to the LES from Booklyn on weekends can be pretty difficult (even by subway).

in a cab it takes 5 minutes

or, let's say you wanted to go from greenpoint to red hook. i don't think you could do it on a bus.

tracer, the b61!

it will take like an hour, but it goes from greenpoint to red hook.

I disagree about bartenders in NY generally being dicks, many are extremely cool. The problem with places like Daddy's is they hire some dipshit in a band to be the bartender. Not far from Daddy's there is a much better bar called Harefield Road, where they hire actual, career bartenders. A much more down-to-earth place.

nice! still, a daily commute from brooklyn to manhattan and back - on the bus - is basically impossible.

Why would you take a bus from Atlantic Center to the LES when all those trains go kind of near there?

and if the bartenders are dicks, go to different bars. they are probably being dicks because their clientele are also dicks. dicks dicks dicks new york has no shortage of those.

because i don't want to go into a sweaty hole in the ground?

because i don't want to get "kind of" near there, i want to get THERE?

because buses are cheerier and more civil?

haha someone has written an essay about the b61:

"The Shameful Bus Called B61"

http://lostnewyorkcity.blogspot.com/2007/09/shameful-bus-called-b61.html

I was going to defend Daddy's but why bother.

haha yea we've been through this a few times already, fuck it

i got several buybacks last time i was there.

[seinfeldbass.wav]whenever I go to Daddys I see people using laptops. laptops in barsA? what is deal with that?[/seinfeldbass.wav]

Tracer, when you say "functional" bus system, you don't get to require that it DUPLICATE what the rest of the MTA is already doing. For god's sake, we can't afford it, do you realize they raised the price of monthly metro cards AGAIN?? If you don't ever want to take the subway again, you're going to have to make some extra sacrifices, I guess.

And when I say "near there" it's only because I don't know where exactly on the LES you WANT to go. Canal St has a ton of trains, the B and D go to Grand, the only train to the LES proper is prob the JMZ and hardly ANYONE lives on that, in the grand scheme of NYC, but you can transfer for it at Canal. So...pick yr poison.

the b61 article is dead-on (i used to live at the beginning of the b61 route and use it for daily commute. they totally do that.)

Can someone direct me to a defense of Daddy's? Would love to read that thread.

Someone who used to work there told me that they don't give buy backs to guys with beards, unless it's one of those giant food-catching kind of Williamsburg beards, which seems kind of Jr. High.

complaining about daddy's is so 2004.

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ILX poster thirdalternative, arrives at Daddy's with burt_stanton

I'm sort of gratified no one has accused thirdalt of being a me sockpuppet.

you think an l-train ridin' hepcat like thirdalternative would drink a BUDWEISER?

because buses are cheerier and more civil?

-- Tracer Hand, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 1:39 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

ive always suspected that tracer was completely insane and now i have the evidence!

buses are pretty much the least cheery environment in the entire world - also they move v slowly and stop every fucking block

laurel, specifying atlantic and flatbush was not the best move as far as my argument goes. so let's say you live anywhere else. like, oh, clinton hill. and you want to take a bus to the east village. could you do that? COULD YOU FUCK. it's VERY close as the crow flies! but no, you've got the A, C, E and G which take you nowhere even close to the east village.

jhøshea yeah i've been in london too long.

buses here move pretty quickly and are more frequent than nyc subways.

yes, but you seem to also want them to move over water which is INSANE.

i mean, are you seriously saying the city should build more bridges over the east river?

dude just take the c to the f its not the end of the world - a lot of these bk to manhattan problems are caused by lol islands

I WANT TO TAKE THE BUS

Daddys was always kind-of a bar without a personality ... can't imagine why anyone would get mad about it.

I for one am all for airlifting the Hungerford and Millenium bridges to NY

there's plenty of good bridges, by the way. greenpoint has one quite near it, called "the williamsburg bridge".

complaining about daddy's is so 2004.

thank you!

every time i go there, i get buybacks. maybe thirdalternative is just a tool (and from his posts here it doesn't seem that farfetched) or yeah, a sockpuppet (tho i know laurel wouldn't hide behind one -- she ain't ashamed of her opinions and that's why we love her).

I WANT TO TAKE THE BUS

-- Tracer Hand, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 6:03 PM (44 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

AND I WANT A FLYING SKATEBOARD.

http://www.scoopsnoodle.com/bus/CrosstownEnnui.jpg

this is the thread for things about new york that suck. shitty bartenders and almost useless bus system both SUCK.

tracer, i love you but you're off base here. ldn buses aren't cheery and civil. they're sweaty, crowded, and people are often bad-tempered. they're also not particularly fast. i spent almost 3 hrs one afternoon going from old street to notting hill by bus, and there wasn't one big cause of the delay to blame.

what in christ do you people expect from your bartenders!?

free drinks, sympathy, ipod access

all bartenders should be like caleb?

xpost or not, you decide.

a $2 tip every on the 2nd drink modulo 3 is a good way towards getting buybacks more often

london has nyc beat when it comes to the shitty bartender stakes.

amen, I can bare believe there is a world where buybacks exist.

Optics really sum up the UK drinking experience.

Or Lance or Kathleen!

laurel are you coming to @m@nd@'s show tonight?

Thresa, if the bartenders at Daddy's really do have a dress code/age/aesthetic cut off for buy backs, isn't that kind of sucky/stuck up/childish? And this is a what sucks in NYC thread.

(I am a very quiet customer who never causes any trouble and tips every time. And I am far from alone in witness this phenomn, and get buybacks everwhere else.)

In NYC, a good bartender gives you your 3rd or 4th drink free if you're not causing any problems and tip regularly. It's good business.

agree about London. Also, terrible city for the spirits drinker, you have to practically get a triple to get a US-sized cocktail.

I don't know, supposed to see a friend from MI tonight. He may not want to be out late, but I haf no idea.

sssh you guys i'm trying to make the new yorkers jealous!

anyway i'd rather cram onto a bus than a subway. less steps. plus sunlight. or what passes for it.

but yeah buses in ldn are only effective for short to medium haul. old st to notting hill is really pushing it lauren!

it's not an age/aesthetic cut-off. some places just don't do buybacks, or do them for regular customers only, people they recognize. it's up to the bartender. it's not like blanket policy.

go during happy hours if you want specials. don't expect a bartender to be able to keep track of how many beers you've bought, etc.

Thresa, if the bartenders at Daddy's really do have a dress code/age/aesthetic cut off for buy backs, isn't that kind of sucky/stuck up/childish? And this is a what sucks in NYC thread.

or you're just a neurotic douchebag

where did i say there was a dress code/age/aesthetic cut off for buy backs? i see old people get them all the time. with rare exceptions, i generally get buybacks by the 3rd drink there as a rule.

old st to notting hill is really pushing it lauren!

but... but... the map said that i could take the bus! I WANT TO TAKE THE BUS!

don't expect a bartender to be able to keep track of how many beers you've bought, etc.

for their own sake they really should.

heh I KNOW I KNOW

xp

things that suck about NY: your beard

looool

GOOD WORK TEAM.

http://web.mit.edu/9.29/www/voltron.jpg

who are those guys i have seen that pic

please

ok since all this new yorkers have decided to defend their sh1tty bus system, i will dial down my criticisms to only include the TOTAL LACK of MAPS or INDEED SCHEDULES OF ANY KIND AT BUS STOPS.

http://unrelatedcontent.com/things/bonk.jpg

xpost

Anyway, amateur bartenders suck. Didn't know a Daddy's clique hung out here too, sorry for offending the cool kids. For the record, R Bar, Boulevard Tavern, Harefield Road, Art Land, Sweet Ups, and even the Bushwick Country Club all have good bartenders. And buybacks.

And NYC buses are great.

tracer, you must seriously be outta the loop. there are schedules at every bus stop i can recall waiting at, as well as maps of the route.

YOU GO TO R BAR?! HEE HEE

a clique!!!

man I can't wait till I can sit at the cool table at Daddy's

also, Sweet Ups indeed

Boulevard Tavern?!?!?!?!?!?!?

the TOTAL LACK of MAPS or INDEED SCHEDULES OF ANY KIND AT BUS STOPS.

uh, what?

Williamsboarder detected

5th avenue, brooklyn, 1998

i admit a few things may have changed since then

cutty, do you go to R Bar?

It can be really dead but the owners are nice.

i was there once on my birthday as an ironic joke

Can a mod pm me this dude's ip address to compare to my database

I'm shocked that laundry list didn't include the Levee

http://www.core77.com/ultimategiftguide/2006/images/utz_cheeseballz.jpg

My favorite dive bar has gotten less douchey since the hipstre food place attached to it closed +/-

it's official, the douchebags are even now too cool for williamsburg. implosion indeed.

is aj styles travis?

What's that, Rockstar Bar?

http://www.alphabet-soup.net/eas/bunnydot.jpg

Catsup, I am sorry for upsetting you I did not know you were such good friends with Daddy's, though on an earlier thread you appear to agree with me.

fgh :(

i don't like going to daddy's because usually it is crowded and all of the tables outside are taken. what more needs to be said, really?

who will dry the tears of the Catsupppppppp dude

I played erotic photo hunt there once (with c@rly) and some girl yelled at us for being sexist

Williamsburg is basically apartments, condos, and bars. That's it. It's not hard finding your own little spot

don't forget boutiques and overpriced brunch spots.

is aj styles travis?

-- tehresa, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 6:35 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i wondered this too

i don't like going to daddy's because these days i generally prefer to get hammered in the comfort of my own living room.

click user info

Simcity is basically commercial, residential and industrial zones. But don't forget stadiums, police stations and parks!

catsup.xls?

i don't like going to daddy's because these days i generally prefer to get hammered in the comfort of my own living room.

-- lauren, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 6:39 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

this too!

a lot cheaper that way, buybacks or no.

drinking is a waste of time, fattays!

Can a mod pm me this dude's ip address to compare to my database

-- Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 7:30 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

You keep an ip database? Talk about douchy.

bars always make me uncomfortable. I'd rather sit and drink by myself where no one complains about the crying.

The Duchy of Catsup

http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/thumbnail2/385_smiley_face_cop.gif

ah hah! i should be like, a mystery solver person!

things that suck about new york: trying to find "I GO TO NEW YORK" thread using search function

http://media.tumblr.com/59zTzQzwE7tayawgNREBVwjl_500.jpg

dont worry, found it using GO TO BOARD WHERE IT IS function. im dumb xpost

(not to you, jj)

hay john do you want to go to DADDY'S when you're here?

i dont know if i can handle the controversy

when will you be here

although its probably been mentioned im tired of new yorkers who complain how its all changed now and that its lost its soul blah blah. try living in limerick for a year.

also people want to move to ny from smaller cities because they find ny invigorating and small cities stifling

http://nealpollack.com/blogimg/040702_Hotdog.jpg

May 29-June 1, but I am at a wedding on the 31st, so I know nothing about anything when it comes to saturday.

If you google daddy's and buyback a lot comes up, including this:

http://gridskipper.com/travel/new-york/the-worst-bartenders-in-brooklyn-327891.php

Not saying it's gospel, but folks, I'm not the only one who noticed. But we're all just tools/not as cool as tehresa, I guess.

Michael B., agree this gets tiring. It's the nature of the city to change and change again.

im going to move my planning to the proper thread now, because i find that hot dog unsettling

link fails for not mentioning Barcade

also gridskipper is like a 4th tier gawker affliate

But we're all just tools/not as cool as tehresa, I guess.

maybe just one of us isn't?

Bartenders in Barcade seem ok to me. Place is mad crowded.

Tza, when and where? Hit me off board?

only time i ever went to barcade it was mostly empty and a good time, but that was like, fuck, six years ago?

BCC's the only place I've gotten buy backs, but it's the only bar where I've ever bought more than 3 drinks in a night.

i was there on a saturday (last october) around 5 or 6 in the evening and it was empty

Most bars are empty at 5 or 6 on a Saturday evening.

BCC is creepy and full of zitty 21 year olds

Barcade is ok before 6 pm

thirdalternative you seem to frequent all the hot spots. what about alligator lounge? capone's? you can get some free pizza there if you get in tight with the owners.

as a bartender, fuck buy backs in a really busy bar

capones indeed

fuck thinking buybacks are your birthright. it's nice when it happens. that's it.

http://www.uscj.org/Koach/images/birthright%20israel%20logo1%20smaller.jpg

30+ers moving to williamsburg for a "backyard" (ha!) from manhattan are out of their fucking mind

you are an ADULT, live like one (and with them)

30+ers moving to williamsburg for a "backyard" (ha!) from manhattan are out of their fucking mind

wow, man, how old are you?

old enough that i have left the festering college dorm that is williamsburg

dude where do you live now? so out of the loop.

i am comfy in suburbia that's all you need to know. i want to move upstate soon.

buybacks are my birthright but im sort of exceptional

Williamsburg isn't even that collegey anymore!

kingston, ny looking very nice these days

Williamsburg isn't even that collegey anymore!

whaaat? average age of graham ave passerby must be ~21

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/07/nyregion/07lofts.html

Williamsburg has graduated to twentysomethings in denial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhAr_UeroCk

i want to move to kingston. and i could conceivable transfer there for my job. it's nice.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/05/07/nyregion/loftmap190.jpg

Really? I'm not so good at judging ages but it just seems like all the actual young people aren't around so much now?

For example! I know a bunch of college that live there still or off Jefferson

old enough that i have left the festering college dorm that is williamsburg

-- cutty, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 8:09 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

But still young enough to be a judgemental prick, I see.

Kingston is nice.

yea avg age is definitely not 21

o come on no one can deny that williamsburg is in fact festering - that pretty much goes w/o saying

I'm the youngest leaser (leasee?) in my building off the Lorimer L. Most of my yuppie friends in the building are 28-37 or so. A MERE STONE THROW FROM THE BEST RESTAURANT IN ALL OF WILLIAMSBURG, KELLOG DINER!!! YAYYYY

i want to move to kingston. and i could conceivable transfer there for my job. it's nice.

-- mizzell, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 3:13 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

ha, same deal with my job. do we work together? that area has the best cycling roads ever.

DEP?

close enough. let's go regulate the resevoirs, homie.

we'll get a fuckin farmhouse for $800/month

im trying my best to protect the watershed

Everyone I've ever met in WBURG has been mid-late 20s at the youngest. The only "young people" I've met was at a shitty party in the McKibben Dorms. Those youngsters definitely prefer to live in the shitty-but-still-just-as-expensive-as-regular-Williamsburg part of North Brooklyn.

what a nice thread

my sister lives across the river in a sweet house.

five years ago i would agree you with your median age ranges. it's simply not the case anymore.

The only "young people" I've met was at a shitty party in the McKibben Dorms.

Why is a thirtysomething dude going there?

the older these people get, the sadder it is, imo

mizzell, we'd actually probably even be working in the same office

the recently renovated one?

new york city is pretty neat

71 Smith Ave
Kingston, 12402

Why is a thirtysomething dude going there?

-- Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 8:22 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Why are you so obsessed with age?

every fresh faced kid i see in williamsburg is straight out of thumbsucker

old people on the internet

cool pop culture reference, cutty. are you called cutty because you're so cutting edge?

No he is called cutty because he has the endurance of ten shire horses.

http://www.cvccbike.com/misc/cutter1.jpg

cool pop culture reference, cutty. are you called cutty because you're so cutting edge?

-- thirdalternative, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 3:27 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Are you called thirdalternative because you're a last resort?

thirdalternative, you've done a great job of getting everyone here to dislike you, kudos.

are you called cutty because you're so cutting edge?

was trying to avoid joining the dogpile but jesus dude, stfu

xpost lol

the worst breed of fong

The only "young people" I've met was at a shitty party in the McKibben Dorms.

Why is a thirtysomething dude going there?

-- Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 8:22 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

haha, I just turned 25 two months ago. When I went to that party I was barely 23.

since when did young new yorkers care so fucking much about other peoples' ages??

it helps us determine who is behind the curve and who is ahead.

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/81/00/23240081.jpg

Since cutty moved out of Williamsburg when he became too mature.

it helps us determine who is forgiven and who is unforgivable

you sir, are the unforgivable.

"STAY OUTTA MY PATCH GRAMPS"

*throws rocks from porch*

"wait that's not your house"

"YES ACTUALLY I HATE IT HERE"

http://www.boston.com/ae/movies/blog/Statler_Waldorf.jpg

gotta admit breaking_away.jpg was strangely otm

since when did young new yorkers care so fucking much about other peoples' ages??

-- Tracer Hand, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 7:45 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

you're extrapolating jon's usual U OLD zings into some widespread attitude shift

Yes, I get it. I'm an asshole because I don't like Daddy's lame buyback policy, which doesn't really exist, the more likely scenario because I'm a douche/tool yuppie who is too old to be in that neighborhood anyway, and because I'm so rude to the staff and other patrons.

Another thing that sucks about New York: cigarette prices.

xxp The hivemind at work already.

i have no qualms with breakingaway.jpg, kudos

i would hang it on my wall

Cutty, I already lived in Manhattan for 14 years and like having a bigger apartment and backyard.

AJ Styles, there's nothing rational about it, that's what makes it a phobia.

-- thirdalternative, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 1:59 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

lololololol

Guys I swear to god even though I also hate Daddy's and am old and smoke like it's my last day on earth, that person is not me.

maybe you should move back in with your parents if you hate brooklyn so much, douchebag

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$1400 is pretty cheap for an apt with a backyard dude. how did you find it?

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Parents paid redic broker fee -- guessing its one of the new constructions way east

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My friend lived there for years and when she moved she hooked me up with the landlord. It's a good deal for sure. After two years he hasn't raised the rent--and never did in the seven years my friend was there. The only trade off is that he's a landlord in absentia--any problems must be dealt with on one's own, no super or anything like that. Which is fine, it's in good shape.

I like Brooklyn and Williamsburg very much. Does not liking Daddy's and having clausterphobia=not liking Brooklyn?

Catsup, it's just one of the typical 3-story, 6-family buildings wtih alluminum siding.

xpost
http://cache.eb.com/eb/image%3Fid%3D10229%26rendTypeId%3D4

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o never mind

Cutty, I already lived in Manhattan for 14 years and like having a bigger apartment and backyard.

AJ Styles, there's nothing rational about it, that's what makes it a phobia.

-- thirdalternative, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 1:59 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

lololololol

-- Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 8:53 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Catsup, can you explain to my old, out-of-touch, douchebag self why this is lol-worthy?

Also, Lauren, want to get a drink? You sound great: old, drinker, smoker, hates Daddy's.

Lauren has a BOYFRIEND

Please see "I Always Get These Two Confused" thread.

Yes, I get it. I'm an asshole because I don't like Daddy's lame buyback policy

i don't think that's it.

hahahaha

kevin otm all over this piece

I'm glad I don't live in NYC or else I'd be worried about "buybacks" all the time. Instead, I pay for my beer, get my beer, and leave a tip, like a normal person.

isn't happy hour illegal in chicago? pah.

now he's hitting on people? this guy

since when are buybacks exclusive to NYC

Hysterical over here.

I don't worry about buybacks, it's just that Daddy's is the ONLY bar in many, many years of bar-going that doesn't seem to do regular buybacks. That is all. Jesus. You guys are so foul-tempered.

Would someone be so kind as to tell me where I was such an asshole on this thread? Just trying to figure out what's going on here--I mean we've got a million sarcastic near-snobbish jibes from cutty, and ketchup making stereotypical assumptions based on little or no information.

Was joking about laurel/lauren.

Buybacks aren't unique to NYC but they are more frequent here than anywhere else.

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this thread is fucking bananas.

I guess I've heard from some people that if you tip more than $1 per drink, bartenders are inclined to give you a drink for free. I've never thought to try it out. But this?

In NYC, a good bartender gives you your 3rd or 4th drink free if you're not causing any problems and tip regularly. It's good business.

Simply doesn't happen where I live.

Simply doesn't happen where I live.

-- jaymc, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 3:38 PM (Wednesday, May 7, 2008 3:38 PM) Bookmark Link

john is just being a troll at this point because we've had this conversation before on a chicago thread and he knows fully well it does.

they hide the buybacks in 4 foot deep pizzas

Things that suck about New York: A Thread

Would someone be so kind as to tell me where I was such an asshole on this thread?

passim.

OK, my mistake. It happens to Kevin. It's never happened to me or anyone else I know. Maaaaybe if it's late and the bar is closing and they don't feel like opening up the cash register, but that's it.

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Simply doesn't happen where I live within a 10-foot radius of me.

Fixed.

BANANAS!!!

i mean we've got a million sarcastic near-snobbish jibes from cutty

welcome to ILX

can a mod move this thread to williamsboard somehow

things that suck about new york: chicago thread drama

some proper butthurt on this here thread

can a mod move this thread to williamsboard somehow

-- sleep, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 4:43 PM (Wednesday, May 7, 2008 4:43 PM) Bookmark Link

^^^this

It's cutty and catsup's faults.

Well, of course it doesn't happen within a 10-foot radius: the closest bar is downstairs.

my, you all had a slow workday, huh?

^^^that

plus plenty of fodder from newbie

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