a quick question for the britishes

"lanca-sher" fyi

aye

thankig u

Dionne Warrick

Why dont you fat, ugly, stupid drunks eat a salad some time and maybe get some sun?

-- bato (bato), Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:36 AM

learning from history

lol

Lanca-sher or Lanca-shear depending on whether you are a Northerner or Southerner. Never Lanca-shyre.

four thousand holes in blackburn lancashire

lucifer over lancashire-ah

'throatwarbler mangrove'

I wonder why it's 'Yorkshireman' and 'Lancastrian'. I suppose 'Lancashireman' is a bit of a mouthful.

I HEARD THAT RUMOUR

worcestershire? as in worcestershire sauce

i say woost-uh-shur

Also, Americans please never refer to any county as "shy-er". That shit is really annoying.

are they pronounced 'shurs' or something?

Pretty much.

even that is too many syllables, as i recently found out! real britishers say "wooster sauce" why because they are lazy

xposts

Merkins, please pronounce Kirkcudbrightshire

i say woost-uh-shur

Worcester sauce is actually made in Worcester, so the shire is a bit redundant. Worst job I ever had (for 5 days) was tightening the lids on the bottles in Lea & Perrins factory. Fucking reeked, couldn't touch the stuff for about 2 years after.

id like to call it wooster sauce but i dont know if i can get away with that in america

WILL EXPERIMENT

ker-kud-bdhite-shedh

colonel, shirely you jest

They'd just started using plastic bottles instead of glass and the lid-tightening machine didn't work properly, so they employed people to go round manually tightening them.

Is that the Hebrew spelling? (xp)

Bicester and Towcester to thread

Ly-chester Square

"Where are we?" asked the American woman on the train. "Berrick upon Tweed", I helpfully replied. "Oh yes", she said, seeing the sign, "Ber-wick upon Tweed".

a-burst-with

let's leave the welsh out of this. by "this" i mean, pretty much, everything.

'Ed-in-burger

Loogabarooga Junction.

i had been saying lanca-shear but will change to lanca-sher

'Ed-in-burger

No no, Edin-BORO. And, after the fashion of Mos-COW, Glass-GOW.

edin brah, ya know dat

I'm never sure whether to say 'GLASgow' or 'GLARSgow'.

GLAS-GEE

Glesga. Embra.

(xxxxxpost) is that in Australia?

GLAZ-GAY

Whores-ham

SCUNTHORPE

i say 'shear'

I do too, but I'm a southern softie.

sheerly, you are?

indeed, I'm from Oxford-shear.

Shrewsbury or Shrowsberry?

ShrOHsbree

shrowsberry

barth or baff?

ppl FROM shrewsbury pronounce it 'shrews-berry' FACT

yeah? fuck 'em

ban anyone that says 'baff'

I live there.

Lancashire that is.

Do I win anything?

you win life membership to the brian close appreciation trust

does that wind you up because it should do

"And here I prophesy: this brawl today,
Grown to this faction in the Temple garden,
Shall send, between the Red Rose and the White,
A thousand souls to death and deadly night."

how do you pronounce this woman's name?
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"id like to call it wooster sauce but i dont know if i can get away with that in america"

I'm 99% sure that will work

xpost "Stee-ven ty-ler"

Who hell she?

No way am I ever saying Baaaaaahhhhhth. No way am I ever doing any "a" sound as "aaaaaaahhhh".

northern barstirred

I have a weird Black Country/Hull hybrid thing going on. Mostly Black Country tho.

Your end of town Jarl, you're practically merseyside.

Us on the scott, on t'other hand

Okay I think its bullshit when Brits get all LOLmuricans at pronunciation of "Leicester" as "Ly-cester" - HOW THE FUCK WOULD WE GET "LESTER" OUT OF 'LEICESTER' naturally?!!?

Same goes for Warwick (Warrick, not "Warwick"), Derby (Why do you pronounce DARBY?) and Clerk (WHY CLARK?)

Sure, but there's a flipside to that - Michigan, Maryland, Arkansas etc etc where Americans do the same to us!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_vowel_shift

I don't think that's the only reason but it is part of it.

Wait, how do you pronounce Maryland?

Marriland, not Mary-land

MIZZ-OR-EE or MIZZ-OR-A?

Oh come on, but those aren't nearly as obscure, except for maybe Arkansas which is just wack. I think 'Poo means that Brits very much pronounce "Mary" and "Land" as they are pronounced separately. Maybe? Also, I know that sometimes Brits pronounce it "Mitchigan" which I think is CUTE not obnoxious.

if you're from Missouri=the second one if you're not from Missouri-the first

OH MY GOD YOUR CRICKETS I DO NOT UNDERSTAND IS HE TRYING TO HIT THE BALL OR IS HE RUNNING AROUND FOR NO REASON LOL

Yeah, that's what I mean, my wife takes the piss out of me if I say Mary-Land :) and yeah Mitchigan. There's more I can't think of at the mo

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Also some Americans act all WTF when I saw I'm from Worcester, I guess the Worcester in the US is pronounced differently, not sure how. War-chester I guess?

saw=say oops

In some American accents (don't know if this includes Maryland) mary=marry=merry.

Worcester Ma is pronounced WOO-STAH

Also a lot of British place names have German or French or Celtic origins and spelling has perhaps become standardized or corrupted over time so it no longer exactly resembles pronounciation. Whereas many American places were named when English or American English was a mature language: plus less period of time for spelling pronunciation to diverge.

If you think British place names are bad you ought to check out languages like Irish or Western transliterations of Chinese where the sounds bear almost no obvious resemblance to a lot of the spellings.

How do you fruity Brits pronounce the Worcester as a town? Wooster?

In some American accents (don't know if this includes Maryland) mary=marry=merry.

Yes. Pretty much all of them.

war-chester is how id pronounce that as a merkin yeah

im assuming ledge is joking

xps

not really
xpost

Hmm. Well that doesn't seem that different. Worcester UK is pronounced "wooster" with the "oo" like in "book".

xposts

Wooster as a town, county, street name, etc. exists over here, but it's spelled Wooster.

What-ho.

How do you pronounce Gloucester? Here it's pronounced Glouster.

glosster

I'm also informed that I pronounce any Spanish/Mexican named US cities completely wrong!

how do you pronounce cockburn?

Gonn-or-eeya

Depends if you mean VD or port

dammit xpost

How do you spell relief?

Well that musician guy Bruce Cockburn is pronounced Coah-burn, isn't he?

It's hard to look at the word "Worcester" and think to pronounce it "wooster". Having a "shire" on the end makes it seem easier for some reason.

Look at it as Worce-ster

Q: how do you mend a broken heart?
A: Cockburn

Guildford

Fowey
Berkshire

Milngavie
Avoch
Culross

Milngavie! My favourite.

I dunno the other two...

Avoch = Och
Culross = Coo-riss

I can never remember Milngavie, I had to read it out in a quiz once, read it like it's spelled and got promptly corrected by a Scottish dude.

Never remember Glenmorangie either.

Mill-GUY
GlenMORangie

Isn't it more Mull-GUY?

Two old relics that get trotter out every time we do this:

Belvior
Featherstonehaugh

trotted

TROTTER OUT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_names_in_English_with_non-intuitive_pronunciations

Okay surnames: Greenhalgh.

That's pronounced Greenhaush.

I know two people who have that surname and they pronounce it in completely different ways:

green - hall
green-halsh

Yeah Green-halsh is more like it.

Here's a good one for tourists - Belvoir.

Loughborough = Loogaborooga.

Althorpe

Is the "voi" part of "Belvoir" in a French stylee?

My fave has always been Caldmore in Walsall.

Hmm. Yeah that sounds good, too.

Alnwick Castle, Northumberland

Pronounced as per the first two syllables of "Anarchy"

Is the "voi" part of "Belvoir" in a French stylee?

-- Bimble, Friday, 18 July 2008 10:34 (Friday, 18 July 2008 10:34) Bookmark Link

That would be far too sensible.

Anstruther
Gilshochill

Belvoir does of course come from the French but for some reason probably to do with people called Cholmondeley-Featherstonehaugh it has become 'Beaver'.

I always thought Lewes was obvious until someone pronounced it 'lose' to me yesterday.

Althorpe

-- Dr.C, Friday, 18 July 2008 10:32 (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

The only people who pronounce this counter-intuitively are Americans and Earl Spencer though.

Findochty is a good one because the town planners of Erskine (town in Renfrewshire) decided to name streets after villages/towns on the Moray coast, so you have Portessie, Cullen, etc, also Findochty. Which, as a town is pronounced FinECHty, but no-one told the people who made, oversee, or live in Erskine, who all pronounce it the way you would intuitively do so had you never heard of Findochty the place.

It's only locals who pronounce Anstruther as Ainster though, isn't it?

Loughborough = Loogaborooga.

I'm going to start pronouncing it like that. Makes it sound more exciting.

Althorpe, Lincolnshire is pronounced how it's spelled.

Oops, I just realised Aldo already did Belvoir and Fanshaw or Fenshaw or Festonhuff...sorry.

How does Spencer pronounce Althorpe? I can't imagine another way of saying nit other than All Thorpe? Have I been saying it wrong too? I met his father once you know. Tried to sell me a book.

"Al-trop"

It's only locals who pronounce Anstruther as Ainster though, isn't it?

I dunno, I've never heard it pronounced as it's spelled by anyone of the easty-coasty persuasion, but maybe (a) that's what you meant by locals or (b) I've been hanging about with the Wrong Sort.

My friend says he actually heard that Loogabarooga one from an Australian in a pub. Sounds too lolworthy to be true imo.

"Al-trop"

The upper classes just make this stuff up as they go along don't they?

I am not offended Ned.

Ainster is Ainster pretty much across Fife, so not just locals. See also Finechty.

That's sort of what I meant by locals. Sorry for not being specific enough. It's not Ainster universally, is what I meant.

Findochty is Finechty wherever you go, or should be, unless you are a stupid town planner with a map and no clue.

Goole is pronounced "Ohjesusshootmeinthefacenowplease"

Hey, leave Goole alone, I had one of the Top 10 best fish'n'chips in my life there. Also they've just lost their favourite dentist.

Barbara Goddard, the practice receptionist, said: "Everybody loves Mr Modi - he'll be missed. I've never met such a lovely man."

You should have read the Haltemprice and Howden by-election thread.

(btw NV, we had a great time at Forbidden Corner yesterday)

ClArkenwell drives me nuts, for some reason.

xpost cool, the weather wasn't too bad yesterday was it? I dearly need to get out into the countryside somewhere, this Stygian gloom cobblers is killing me.

It was just a little bit drizzly now and again, but apart from that, ideal.

Just how we britishes like it.

Do people still pronounce Holbourn Hoe-bun?

I try to but I always forget.

I always thought Lewes was obvious until someone pronounced it 'lose' to me yesterday

Don't worry, that someone was wrong. It's pronounced like Inspector Morse's sidekick.