Come Anticipate "TRON 2" or "TR2N" or whatever (now called "Tron Legacy")

Should I really?

What, play the game, or anticipate the movie?

Anticipate the movie: take yer choice
play the game: fuck yeah

nice logo

I haven't watched Tron since the 80s, but the teaser trailer is good enough to have me wanting to see the sequel.

It's not scheduled for theaters until 2011 though, right?

I guess there aren't any other games for a Mac

trzn?

TRQN

lol @ jeff bridges being in this thing

the further away this is from being released the better, as the anticipation will be far greater than the movie itself (i reckon). love that logo too.

the game was mint mostly, but rock hard and i stopped playing after quick saving at a tough moment with fuck all health left. bah

anyone for multiplayer light cycles?

TRIIN

2RON

does the xbox version of game work for 360? have never had a PC powerful enough to play it, but was always curious...

Ha ha. This thread title made me laugh. I thought it was a wittily weary comment on contemporary mores. Then I discovered it really is called TR2N.

TR2N is a terrible name but that logo makes it slightly better.

never got into Tron2 the video game, maybe i should try it again. am annoyed at how often games even 4 or 5 years old don't understand 16x10 aspect ratios though.

lightcycles now obeying laws of physics = this will suck

cycles are obv cool and necessary but i always thought another good way of presenting this would be men standing upright on little podiums that pivot precisely to allow instant 90 degress turns (sorry i did a game design concept/animation in my degree final year that ripped this off quite shamelessly)

my friend makes me laugh whenever i try and make her watch Tron, she refuses point blank with a sickly look on her face stating "it looks silly, men walking around in illuminous space suits"

best light cycle game was Duel, a home made written piece of code that was listed in an old speccy mag. Only showed a small section of the grid at a time which made it great, and it had the best 'screeching motor' sound fx.

lightcycles now obeying laws of physics = this will suck

yeah what the hell is that about

although a schoolfriend did write a lightcycle game with realistic physics and it was quite fun.

there was an awesome public domain game on Amiga just called Cycles but you could end up with 8 or more different coloured lines on the screen all trying to fuck each other up or just going into tactical 'block yourself off but with enough space to go round and round and hope everyone else dies before you do' mode. genius.

nice logo

I misread that as "nice lego" and got exited at a Lego Tron game ala Lega Star Wars.

The film is being written by Lost writers Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz

good sign?

what sort of realistic physics tho? they just ride around on a flat grid, or is this to do with how they turn? Anything other than 90 degree turning would be absurd.

yeah they turn like normal bikes ;_;

(xxxpost) a Lego Tron videogame would f-ing rule...

(xpost) ...and without wanting to come across as a huge Tron nerd, but the light cycles only turn at right angles when they're on the game grid. In the original movie, they behaved like regular cycles once Bridges and co escaped.

...but on the other hand, when they're off the grid they don't have those light trails coming out the back like they do in the TR2N trailer, so I've kind of undermined my own argument.

i guess this film is set in more modern times, so they're playing an upgraded version of lightcycles.

cute

2RON

-- Ste, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 09:28

"It's goodlight(cycle) from me..."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/graphics/2007/07/02/btronnies.jpg

Barker's jacket looks like it's been run over by a lightcycle...

The not-turning-at-right-angles thing was brought up on other boards, and it should be pointed out that the only time the original bike did so was in the Game Grid. One they escaped, they operated like normal(ish) bikes: gradual turns as the road changed, banking for sharp curves, etc.

Heh, a GIS for "tron bikes":

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1016/537882960_f686ef0c52.jpg?v=0

fattronguy.jpg

(Bet he gets a cameo - internet fame has got to be good for something, right?)

I think this looks pretty good actually. glad the Dude is in it

okay i've only just watched that trailer, looks nice.

hope they were kind enough to give this guy a bit part:

https://damicoworks.sslpowered.com/candysmokes.com/images/tron2.jpg

Some updates:

Bridges told The Guardian that "doing the new Tron movie is something that is just too good to pass up. It was the same with How To Lose Friends And Alienate People." He added later, "Engaging in that world again feels just like it did all that time ago. Basically, I'm still a child, I love being childlike, and here was another chance to play with these crazy toys. And the cutting-edge technology makes it exciting. Doing the teaser trailer for Comic-Con, I had my first experience of motion capture. And that's turning the industry on its head. It's amazing being part of that."

Bridges said that "when we made Tron there was no internet, no cellphones. But now we have motion capture, so I think we'll get a far more successful version of the story, which is someone literally getting sucked into a video game. When we did King Kong in the 70s, one minute you'd have a shot of Rick Baker in this big suit and then you'd cut to this 80ft stiff model, and they looked nothing alike. Compare to that Peter Jackson's King Kong the technology is there and they did a wonderful job. I thought they created a beautiful Kong. So I hope that'll be the same for Tron."

In other TR2N news, Ain't It Cool News caught up with the sequel's director, Joseph Kosinski, who advised them that the movie will be shot in stereoscopic 3D just as the Comic-Con reel was. AICN adds that filming on "TR2N will be a 'twenty-four month' process" but that Kosinski is "confident that the movie could be ready for late 2010." The site adds that Michael Wilkinson (Watchmen) has been hired to design the costumes.

Lookin' pretty awesome

No.

How many movies that aren't Tron can you spot in that clip?

1. tr2n

2. Empire Strikes Back
3. The Abyss
4. Fellowship of the Ring

5. those drift movies

Come on, aren't you looking forward to seeing Tron 2 on your home theater glasses-less 3 dimensional television in 2010?

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/05/20/business/EU-TEC-Netherlands-Philips.php

6. new Star Trek movie (it's so like the bit in the trailer where young Kirk nearly goes over the edge of the canyon)

fuck a gabbneb this looks great

Weird, I thought we linked this clip already...

http://tron2trailer.blogspot.com/

― kingfish, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 07:09 (3 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

fuck a gabbneb this looks great

corny scifi fux

tho really my objection is it looks like every other movie out there, probably made by kids who weren't born when the first one came out

you prefer it would be made by old people

old people, who always have tons of new ideas

Tron 2 is a new idea

The Abyss lol

tenuuuuuuuous

if only dr. morbius were here to give his opinion

would like to see Gandalf on a lightcycle

gabbneb on a lightcycle pursued by Dr. Morbius

now there's a pitch

xp - !

Exit, pursued by a bear

I wish arcades made some kind of comeback, seeing as how everything from the 80s is being rehashed. Would much rather go out with some friends and get drunk and beat each other up in Street Fighter 2 Championship Edition/Mortal Kombat 2 than another lame dance club.

move to portland, or

http://www.groundkontrol.com/

I think this looks great.

Best thing about Tron is the aesthetic, and it looks like they're making a decent attempt at staying true to it in their next-gen-animation sort of way

the aesthetic was kinda the furthest thing from next-gen-animation

that's why they're trying to do it, in their sort of way.

haha

According to her Myspace page, Cindy Morgan is sorta reprising her role in Tron by doing some voice work for TR2N.

http://www.myspace.com/officialcindymorgan

I still haven't seen any word on Wendy Carlos involvement yet though :(

Will they still layer up dozens of Atari 800 sounds to make the noise of the tanks?

A little old news at this point but hmmm...

According to reports from The Hollywood Reporter, Garrett Hedlund has emerged as the winner in Disney's search for the actor to star in the sequel to 1982's Tron, TR2N (or Tron 2, Tron 2.0, or simply Tron, depending upon which source you believe).

Joseph Kosinski is making his feature film directorial debut with the $150 million special effects-heavy movie. Hedlund joins a cast which also includes Olivia Wilde and Beau Garrett (both from Turistas) as well as Jeff Bridges, the star of the original Tron who'll be revising his role as Kevin Flynn.

Some other stuff:

—Bruce Boxleitner WILL be in the movie, alongside his Tron co-star Jeff Bridges, both of whom will presumably be reprising their roles from the first movie.

—Director Joseph Kosinski is actually building some massive sets for the movie, representing the virtual world, rather than shooting against green screens. The movie begins shooting in April in Vancouver.

—The movie will make use of face-replacement computer technology last seen in The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.

The fact that '13' is in this is enough motivation for me to check it out.

Massive sets, that will be interesting....

Although you could just as easily render them with modern computer technology and in real time. Take a look at the Tron2 video game.

you could way more easily render them w mo.com.tech. but the effect would be different.

http://io9.com/5162949/more-details-about-tron-2s-shakespearean-tragedy---with-lightcycles

Holy Crap, Daft Punk is Scoring Disney's Tron 2.0!

tratoon

I found a tron pop-up book from the first movie at a used book sale, it is awesome.

Important:

Tron 2.0 is now called Tron Legacy, and the Big TronBowski wouldn’t reveal much by way of why, saying, “When I look forward to a movie, the less I know about it the better.” He did acknolwedge it involves a son’s search for his father, and that he was that father.

· Tron Legacy director Joseph Kosinski described his meeting with Daft Punk as being a “mysterious pancake breakfast in L.A.” And yes, they were wearing the helmets. Asked if they tour in support of the soundtrack, he said there would definitely be Daft Punk Tron-themed events on the horizon.

Other stuff:

Next up is the Tron Legacy panel and apparently, that is the OFFICIAL title for the new film. Director Joseph Kosinski is on hand, as is producer Sean Bailey and Steve Lisberger. From the cast is Garrett Hedlund, Olivia Wilde and of course, the veteran from the first film, Jeff Bridges.

*They just showed concept art from the world of Tron City including a view down from the top of Mile High Tower and a look at the arena for the city's gladiatorial games including an update of Disc War, which features 16 combatants fighting at once and then the courts combining as someone is eliminated to create one giant count for the final battle. They also showed shots of the new Recognizer, the Solar Sailor, the two-passenger Light Runner, and the 5th Generation light cycle.

*They just filming last week but Joe had cut together a key scene in which Hedlund's Sean Flynn arrives at the old Flynn's arcade which has been abandoned for 20 years.The place has clearly been vacant for a long time and all the arcade games are covered in plastic but he flicks on the power and the jukebox kicks into the opening of Journey's "Separate Ways" which was in the original Tron as all of the games comes to life. He sees a blue light emanating from the back wall so he walks back towards it and takes the plastic off the game and it's the original Tron arcade game. He takes out a quarter to play it but it drops to the floor and he sees a crack on the floor and realizes that it goes behind the console. He pushes the game aside and there's a secret door with blue light glowing from the cracks and he opens it up and walks in.

*French techno band Daft Punk has composed 24 tracks for the movie so far.

Except "Separate Ways" wasn't in the film...

And viral sites for HOOS:

http://www.flynnlives.com/

http://homeoftron.com/

This seems very exciting to me until I remember that I'm a grown-up.

And then you get even more excited.

this seems very exciting to you because you are a grown-up, kids don't care about this shit

Very bothered by the curved light trails and "real" physics... this is absurd and stupid.

How dare they not stick to the Dogme 95 principles clearly exhibited in scenes like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UYNgUmu35o

cute

Very bothered by the..."real" physics... this is absurd and stupid

lol

lightcycle with a bit of Daft Punk score over the top

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrew4XtbjrU

The score is going to be epic.

ok that video with that music is raising expectations significantly here

As it should.

Whoa, holy heck -- the trailer from last year, but, you know, clear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHZOD_jOLcs

Nice to be finally able to see this thing properly.

Meanwhile a slide show with some of the concept art (and an appropriate soundtrack):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_oBZcdz-UE

Nice to be finally able to see this thing properly.

I miss the sounds of the crowd going crazy, though.

Haha I agree. Someone should do a blend of that.

yeah, the cheer for Bridges made that original clip something else

i was watching it again earlier and gotta agree - love these clips for new stuff where you can hear the crowd that hyped at all the big moments

great to see it in high quality at last altho maybe it looks a bit too clean and game-like?

But it's just a game etc.

You know, I like movies and all that, but the people screaming at the light cycle make me glad that I don't go to stuff like comicon.

I'm a huge Tron fan and Wendy Carlos fanatic.

But the reason I'm posting is to say that I recently re-connected online with my old co-Dungeon Master from high school. Turns out, he was the lead game designer on Tron 2.0 video game.

Maybe I should have stuck with D&D instead of turning to the music scene...

Just for the sake of convenience, here's the bootleg clip from 2008:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPGWYAUF3v4

Still bummed about the name change. Why, when you have the option of making a movie called TR2N complete with it's own logo (as seen in the opening post of this thread), would you puss out and call it Tron: Legacy like it's the sixteenth spin-off of the third series? Don't get it. Great work, Disney.

The description for that Youtube video:

FIRST POSTED VIDEO! At Flynn's Arcade at the viral event for TRON: LEGACY at Comic-Con 2009, a secret door opened up and led down a hallway to reveal a full-size model of the SPECTACULAR new lightcycle design, accompanied by new music by Daft Punk. Shot with an iPhone 3GS and uploaded immediately during the event.

http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/comedy/media/C/comedy_home/features/nathanbarley/nathan_407x257.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6jfm0hq0bk

>Shot with an iPhone 3GS

What a chump. James Mitchell totally otm.

That Comic Con lightcycle stunt is a brilliant bit of marketing, and the Daft Punk score does sound like it'll be immense. Quite excited about this now too.

The look of the original Tron, with the weird costumes and the really strange coloring effects (at times it seems like rotoscoping but its not) is i think a BIG reason why it was so big. I think the biggest challenge for this one is to have it look unique rather than another-CGI-future-movie. Certainly there are plenty of rendering algorithms and stuff that are not widely used and should be considered but I suppose we'll have to wait and see..

Yeah, the ragged edges of the original are pretty key -- at the same time, there's also room to acknowledge that by default more powerful computers mean sharper rendering etc. as we've all seen over the years. There are ultimately a variety of ways to go with this.

I have to assume that since processing power and ram has increased, the Tron world is less sparse and has more "rez" to it as it is a reflection of the internal workings of computers.

I am really excited about this movie.

are you saying its gonna look like world of warcraft?

The look of the original Tron, with the weird costumes and the really strange coloring effects (at times it seems like rotoscoping but its not) is i think a BIG reason why it was so big.

But the thing is, it wasn't big. I was a flop and that's why we had to wait for Jurassic Park to get people interested in pushing the envelope with CGI and really investing in the technology. If TRON had been a hit, we'd have seen major effects advances way earlier.

I read an old interview with Lisberger where he said that using latter era technology, the original Tron film could have been made for about $150k.

If TRON had been a hit, we'd have seen major effects advances way earlier.

i dunno what about EXPLORERS

this movie is what bluray is made for

So Flynn is the bad guy in this - the CGI young Flynn driving the yellow lightcycle?

that was flynn? lol i couldn't tell

i can't decide whether old flynn is in a prison or has become some sort of spiritual messiah here.

are you saying its gonna look like world of warcraft?

― julien schNAGL (s1ocki), Saturday, 25 July 2009 20:40 (Yesterday)

This would be so funny. The guy gets pulled into the computer world, and instead of being all sleek and luminous it's full of wizards and elves and shit.

I am looking forward to this, I've got to admit.

Gauntlet the movie

And viral sites for HOOS:

http://www.flynnlives.com/

http://homeoftron.com/

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:38 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark

lol ty

i can't decide whether old flynn is in a prison or has become some sort of spiritual messiah here.

― Great Scott! It's Molecular Man. (Ste), Sunday, July 26, 2009 10:24 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark

apparently he disappeared in 1989. obsessed fans of the tron arcade game have been meeting up--UFO sighting group style--trying to "find out what happened to him" and play lots of tron ever since

the slightly-too-obsessed fans thing kinda seems spiritual messiahish

Genius, Visionary, Modern Hero.

That is Kevin Flynn.

He came into our lives and showed us the limitless possibilities of the future. And then, all of a sudden, he "disappeared."

Some people believed he died. We don't. We know that Kevin Flynn Lives.

We're not crazy, we're not obssessed, we're not lunatics. We simply have followed the facts wherever they lead. And the facts tell us that Kevin Flynn Lives.

We are here for Kevin. Nobody can make us stop believing that he is out there, that he's waiting for us, and that he will return when the time is right.

god i hate external-to-the-movie backstory

eh. when it's good i have fun with it.

Couple of new stills and teaser poster:

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim//2009/12/10/TRON_LEGACY_One-Sheet__540x795.jpg

I keep forgetting Olivia Wilde is in this. Luckily the combination of her and Daft Punk will be enough to talk my wife into seeing this opening weekend.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/bramafear/BizBlogs/h_in_2001_bowman_03.jpg

http://www.merouda.com/gallery/albums/album28/2001qu7.sized.jpg

Hmmm...

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2010/02/25/tron-legacy-viral-marketing-campaign-leads-to-imax-event-in-five-major-cities/

They should just release the damn movie.

Too easy.

A report:

http://io9.com/5481837/tron-legacy-secret-screening-+-an-awesome-15-seconds

Can somebody photoshop Michael Steele's face into that promo poster?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPbnGB9b974

Sweet. So that's what the CGI-Young Jeff 'Clu' looks like, huh?

hot tron girl

my godsister is @ 1:41-1:42! thought she just had a small part...

I know someone in this movie. She said Daft Punk suggested that it not have any dialogue, only music (she related this via an amusing story in which one Punk whispered to another Punk who spoke to the rest of the table. There was a small dog in the story also.)

My interest in seeing this is out of all proportion to how good it could possibly be, because I am a giant nerd.

man jeff bridges + daft punk + what looks like sweet retro styling = opening night for me

The only good part about seeing the Alice movie was the Tron trailer.

man jeff bridges + daft punk + what looks like sweet retro styling = opening night for me

Midnight showing at the IMAX around here at this rate.

hell to the yeah

this shit is going to bring out the nerd audience in the 25-40 age group more effectively than pornography would.
i am v v v geeked

I don't even like the original Tron much and I'm going to be salivating over this movie for the next nine months.

needs more light bike sound fx imo

psyched!!

The look of the original Tron, with the weird costumes and the really strange coloring effects (at times it seems like rotoscoping but its not) is i think a BIG reason why it was so big

wait

tron was a notorious flop!

even if it fostered some nice games that lingered in arcades for over a decade

ok maybe not a flop but it didn't do particular well as i recall

Boxofficemojo has it as doubling its budget, so it broke even.

maybe. marketing might have been greater than published budget. esp. in that era.

Interview/fan meet and greet with Kosinski and Lisberger the other week.

This movie looks pretty neat, but hiring a guy who only has one credit to his name -- a commercial for Halo 3 -- tempers my enthusiasm.

ok maybe not a flop but it didn't do particular well as i recall

It didn't do well but like a lot of 1982 cult movies that didn't do well (The Thing, Blade Runner) it inspired a lot of nerds.

xpost -- He's actually done a slew of ads, not just the one! I actually like his take on how he became a director almost by accident.

This movie looks badass. TRON remains a fond moviegoing experience as I recall sitting next to my dad, who would watch anything with a robot/monster/alien in it, leaning in and saying "I'd really like this movie if I knew WHAT THE HELL IT WAS ABOUT"

ok plot, acting and script look stupid but as long as there isn't too much of those things should be fine

hahahaha <3 dads xp

i had zero interest in this until that trailer!

really? seemed pretty pedestrian

ok plot, acting and script look stupid but as long as there isn't too much of those things should be fine

Do you have a source other than this 2 minute trailer?

yeah i'm not over awed by that trailer. but it's tron 2 so i'll of course still watch it with high hopes

i had interest in this until that trailer!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y109/fez_/Grid_1tlr_1280x532_720p.gif

problematic imo

is that walken

Michael Sheen.

bowie?

Edgar Winter.

http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/tron-legacy-trailer.jpg

http://chasness.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/hackers.jpg

i hope this is 1/2 as good as hackers

boot up or shut up imo

I hope this is 1/2 as good as Hackers 2: Takedown.

Hope its not a hack job.

Takedown did not have Hackers 2 attached to the title until release afaik. Bad branding.

Hackers is one of the greatest films. For me. In this lifetime.

I don't buy into "this is the hottest woman because she was in movies we watched this year and was on the cover of our magazine" lists that she has been in, but Olivia Wilde is whaaaao in what I have seen of this.

Yeah, Olivia Wilde is absolutely gorgeous. And I think my wife finds her even more attractive than I do.

that trailer has made me pretty excited abt this

wanna go see it with me

well, i do like to spend pre-christmas holiday time in NYC!
if that is really how long we have to wait for this?

Since that trailer I have zero interest in this.

THE LOOK OF THIS FILM IS ALL WRONG!
by mogwai_democracy Mar 9th, 2010
12:39:33 AM
how could they screw up the Tron world so completely?! i'm seeing dust, scuff markings, scratches & dents on walls & surfaces, and that fucking recognizer looked like it was made out of metal. what the fuck?!

this is a completely computer generated world! it's INSIDE a computer. it's all just electricty and lines of code! theres no dust & scratches! everything is synthetic! this new Tron world is WAY TOO REALISTIC LOOKING! it just looks like typical modern cgi work with a little more minimalist aesthetic applied. even the characters in this new one just look like they're wearing normal clothes with a few strips of light on it. what happened to all the dense circutry & flowing pulsing flickering light?! what's with all this organic looking clouds & crap?! if you're going to make everything look realistic then why call it Tron?! just make another Avatar or something.

nothing i've seen in this trailer gave me the feeling that i got when i saw the original Tron: that i was seeing something COMPLETELEY DIGITAL and NEW. something never before seen. something alien. something that barely even referenced the real world with it's shapes and textures. when you were in the Tron world you knew you were somewhere ELSE. it felt completely different to what you knew. when i look at this new Tron world it just seems like there are some people in some high tech nightclub or something. the atmosphere, the lighting, the feel is just all wrong. waaay too ordinary looking.

shit, remember those insane immediate 90 degree turns the old light cycles used to make right on the gridlines? remember the old recognizers cruising around? they were just red lines & empty black surfaces. NO SCRATCHES. NO DUST KICKING UP. NO METAL SCUFFS & CRAP THAT LOOKS LIKE HYDRAULICS! the independent parts that made up the recognizer just FLOATED IN SPACE NEXT TO EACH OTHER! IT'S NOT REAL! THE LAWS OF PHYSICS AREN'T THE SAME THERE. use some IMAGINATION & invent some impossible-looking things instead of tring to make them look like big heavy metal machines and shit. what the fuck?!

you got 9 months before the movie comes out. you better fix all this shit in cgi! DO NOT FUCK THIS UP! i want to see some dense abstract impossible visuals! not some damn real-world looking crap! damn!

kinda feelin that critique tbh

Clearly Flynn has spent the last 28 years redesigning the TRON world from within. Der.

by mogwai_democracy

this Tron world just looks all Matrixy but with more neon and there's no surreal wow factor to be had as the design seems too focussed on photo-realism instead of an effect equivalent to 1982 ray-traced cell animation or whatever (not sure what the equivalent could be tho).

the one thing that seems cool about this is that I've read a few people speculating that this is going to have some kind of Heart of Darkness vibe. Flynn does look pretty grim.

lol yeah right have these people ever seen a Hollywood blockbuster before

yeah, I'm especially not expecting Disney to take any big risks, either.

I think the whole point of the Tron world looking different is that computers and computing power make things look different. The whole point is that it is not 1982 anymore, and video games in 1982 (to name one example) don't look like video games in 2010. Processing ability, visual expectations, etc. have all changed, and however much the original Tron was something that looked and felt strange at the time it is also very recognizably a product OF its time. Etc. etc.

it may have been a product of its time but Tron REALLY did not look like anything else out at the time. This looks like a bunch of other things out right now

yup

they could have updated the look of the world without making it look "real", imo. use similar methods as the first one, but make it more vast, more detailed. someone in that same thread mentioned how cool the game Rez (PS2) looked - do something more along those lines. most important: make sure it still looks like a video game.

"yeah, I'm especially not expecting Disney to take any big risks, either."

Disney's done some very strange stuff before:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWj6xS7fvuI

you guys are sorta overthinking this just a tetch

not quite "Heart of Darkness" material there

xp

Yeah, that's really only one shade more morbid than the pie eating contest story within Stand By Me.

If Jeff Bridges kills Ashley Judd with a baseball while singing "Human After All" you will have nightmares.

mogwai_democracy has kinda a point w the people-wearing-lights thing. The original Tron is so high contrast and saturated that the glowing effects on the costumes really glow, like from within. It really enforces the feeling that these are electronic things inside of a computer, not people.

Shakey OTM on OT not looking like anything else.

Some more ARG/promo hoohah going down this week.

i want one! i want one!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c630a53ef01310feec65e970c-200wi

More promo stuff happening, and in Portland no less:

The local retro arcade updated today:

http://groundkontrol.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/space-paranoids-marquee.jpg

http://groundkontrol.com/

with a link to here:

http://www.arcadeaid.com/

and there's a working phone number, too...

saw the original film the other night with some friends, for the first time since I was 10. projected wallsize full aspect.

WOW did that movie age well. CGI ~ 1980 couldn't compete with the state of the art of other blockbuster FX at that point but yeah we've all grown into the aesthetic, back then it looked primitive now it just looks beautiful

this has probably been said by every other fellow nerd poster 10x upthread, but what I expected to be a homework watch ended up being total bliss

I might be confusing it with the last starfighter, but wasn't the bulk of Tron hand-animated, or traced over CGI, with only a few scenes being pure CG?

no, i think you're right and that's likely why it holds up

most of it is traced over gels, but there are tons of big payoff CGI scenes: Light Cycle combat, Tank chases, the hilarious bit where the half-destroyed Flighter keeps almost falling apart into 15-20 separate parts and then reassembling itself, the Laser Sail Ship, and... the face of the Master Control Program

all these shots were glaringly rudimentary when they'd cut between those & live action in 1980, but they're looking pretty much like art in 2010

and the color scheme of the laser light gels on black-hued images, not animation but we kept pausing the film in parts to look at the stills

You should definitely rewatch the documentary if you haven't seen it in a bit, it talks in some detail about the approaches used. I assume there was a huge Cinefex article on it at the time as well.

Uh, slow down there, guys.

Some bits and pieces:

http://www.movieviral.com/2010/07/06/tron-legacy-round-up-set-visits-empire-covers-and-daft-punk/

And a heads-up review of viral/Comic-Con stuff:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/07/comiccon-2010-tron-poised-to-take-center-stage-in-san-diego.html

Report on the panel:

http://www.deadline.com/2010/07/comic-con-2-tron-panel/#more-55801

I assume clips of the new footage are long since floating around.

Interesting report, not so interesting to read at the bottom that Guillermo del Toro is directing a movie about another damned Disney ride.

Here's the official new trailer:

http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/07/22/the-new-tron-legacy-trailer-is-epic/

Epic, not quite so much but it definitely has moments.

http://celebrity-gossip.net/olivia-wilde/olivia-wilde-takes-tron-legacy-comic-con-391576

Olivia Wilde, you so pretty

http://celebrity-gossip.net/sites/default/files/imagecache/fullsize_image/images/o/olivia-wilde-072210-3.jpg

Yes, she is absolutely gorgeous.

is she the daughter of the pretty lady from the original tron?

No, her mom is a 60 Minutes producer, iirc.

Oh wait, I'm guessing you meant her character?

Hey, Bridges, pull your pants up.

oh no that trailer. this is going to be poo. oh noe.

Looks pretty epic to me.

"Oh wait, I'm guessing you meant her character?"

yeah if she's the daughter of tron, and so is the male lead, won't they be committing troncest?

the male lead isnt the daughter of tron dude

not only he is not a daughter but jeff bridges isnt tron

wasn't the tron world and its inhabitants created when the MCP digitally encoded jeff bridges (and his sperm presumably)?

oh no that trailer. this is going to be poo. oh noe.

didn't realize gaspar noe was directing this

I need to see the original Tron again. The music in trailer is too generic-sounding

this looks decent enough, tho tbh I'd prefer a feature-length version of

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_urYVca1IFZM/R6op-3EcaTI/AAAAAAAAAIo/_95mjkPntVg/s320/Tron.bmp

Always kind of a bummer when the first trailer is so much better than the second. Was that the best they could do? Anyway, there was no doubt this would be a POS, but if it helps Daft Punk buy a new pyramid, I can get behind it.

Would love to see a Gaspar Noe "Tron," FWIW.

It looks pretty good, though I'd have to say Flynn seems a bit po-faced in this, whereas, in the original film, he was the surrogate Han Solo wisecracking rogue.
tbf His character has a slightly different, more complicated role to play in 'Tr2n' it seems.

Would love to see a Gaspar Noe "Tron," FWIW.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, July 23, 2010 9:01 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

u should see enter the void, that's kidn of wht it is

Plus, insemination POV!

The young Bridges CGI seems a little off (like the lip-synch is off a bit).

if the second one looks like ass, we must not forget that the first one was also ass

The young Bridges CGI seems a little off (like the lip-synch is off a bit).

He looked weirdly puffy-faced; the real young hot Jeff Bridges did not have that weird puffy plastic surgery look like the CGI version in this trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsGCcPyj7B4

I am SO about to watch this!

^^^you should it's great

Just saw the new trailer. That doesn't look half bad, don't know what yal are complaining about. CGI'd JB looks a bit weird but count me in as looking forward to getting nicely toasted around this xmas and watching a 3D Tron sequel.

I only hope they don't overdo it on action sequences like they often do these days. Most of the appeal of the original Tron is stretches where nothing much is happening but it looks so beautiful you can just sit there are look at the pretty lights.

Bring on the Disneyland dance party. (Why do I have a feeling that Daft Punk will drop in on this at some point?)

This is going to blow so, so many goats.

I tried to watch the original last night, and got halfway through it before I realized that it's not a sci-fi classic. It's a goofy, forgettable thing that only half makes sense even by its own logic.

I think they're going to be true to the spirit of the original, judging by the trailers. This movie isn't going to make much sense, either. It will be about special effects. If Jaws is the father of all summer blockbusters, Tron is the father of all movies that have nothing going for them except for looking really cool.

PROGRAM NOTES: The members of Daft Punk, who scored Tron Legacy, have a brief cameo in the film. They play physical mp3s.

PERFECT CASTING

"You're looking low bitrate today."

did this come out yet?

You'll know when it comes out as you'll feel a great disturbance as if millions of '80s nerds suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

december

it's Thirteen from House, M.D.!

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Abbbottt! How did you know there was going to be a secret code? :-)

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Hey Topspin/Disney, if you only let people from the USA preorder using VISA, why not mention that in the mail or on the site? Amateurs. *shakes head AGAIN re: music industry*

Some more hoohah:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/09/tron-jeff-bridges-steven-lisberger-legacy-flynn-digital.html

And now we know what mp3s look like:

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/daft-punk-tron.jpg

Those white lines will glow in the dark on the poster, apparently.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/movies/2010/09/tron-jeff-bridges-steven-lisberger-legacy-flynn-digital.html

I read this headline as "Tron tries to build a stoner legacy" and thought, 'haven't they already succeeded?'

Oh dear.

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/1053654989_VGFLd-M.jpg

This looks really cool.

trtwon

video clip @ nme.com: http://www.nme.com/video/bcid/647805378001/search/NME?ref=nf

"NME Exclusive" ! You won't find it anywhere el- http://pitchfork.com/news/40517-watch-itroni-trailer-with-new-daft-punk-track/

It's everywhere it's everywhere!

http://www.myspace.com/everything/video/2010/10/25/tron-legacy-daft-punk-music-video/#pm_cmp=mce_con_ent_marq_MH_TDP#ixzz13U6bRbAJ

Pam Lifford knows how to make this sounds like fun(TM):

Disney Consumer Products (DCP) is giving fans the ultimate TRON experience by hosting the official, one and only TRON: Legacy Pop-Up Shop with displays and merchandise inspired by the high-tech 3D adventure, TRON: Legacy, releasing in U.S. theaters Dec. 17, 2010 in Disney Digital 3D(TM) and IMAX(R) 3D. Just in time for the holiday shopping season, this six week-long retail destination for men and women of all ages will offer one-of-a-kind, limited-edition TRON merchandise at the cafe, retail concept shop, and art exhibition space Royal/T in Culver City, CA --November 19 through December 23, 2010 from 10 a.m. -- 6 p.m. daily, with extended hours on Wednesdays to 10 p.m. Walk-ins are welcome.

"Our TRON: Legacy merchandise line offers a wide range of items for all --whether you're a die-hard fan or just an avid fan of design, imagination and technology," said Pam Lifford, executive vice president of fashion and home for Disney Consumer Products. "We've had great response from fans on the line overall and the TRON Pop-Up Shop is a special way to bring it all together for them while spotlighting those one-of-a-kind pieces they can't find anywhere else."

And another new trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4RiUy23e9s

ehhhh I dunno

what's with the young Jeff Bridges stuff...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivPheV77JcU

Saw it last night. Ridiculous plot, obviously, but it looks amazing.

http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/394/22/chapelle_fif.0.0.0x0.400x299.jpeg

I am very excited, to the point of jumping up and down and making aeroplane noises before hastily remembering I am in a computer, trying to make them more 'cybernetic', and then... er... stopping! Because there are other people here!

But still yes! Very exciting! In fact I would say that teh trailer was the most exciting thing about the Harry Pottz0r movie (which indeed itself was q. gd).

so excited for this film

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86wKWjvUD50

I enjoy the soundtrack

And, apparently soundtrack is on sale at Amazon for like four bucks today

Not seen this posted here yet:

http://www.totalfilm.com/reviews/cinema/tron-legacy

Early review, applauds the visuals and sound but isn't too pleased with the plot and themes. As you would expect.

'Tron Guy' Reviews Tron: Legacy

this movie is sooo fucking boring

I'm assuming this movie is going to suck, but I was hoping being able to look at cool, glowing graphics and Olivia Wilde in a skin-tight suit would make up for the rest.

this movie is sooo fucking boring

― no hipster hats (The Brainwasher), Thursday, December 16, 2010 2:14 PM Bookmark

;_;

A waste all around. I've been played for a sucker.

are there any full reviews of this up anywhere? I haven't seen any

Full review from The AV Club. (They give it a D+.)

would settle for it being better than Avatar

Right now I'm settling it for being better than Hackers.

there's no fucking way this movie will be better than "Hackers"

hell, it won't be better than "Swordfish"

are there any full reviews of this up anywhere? I haven't seen any

― twat dust and ego overload (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, December 16, 2010 4:43 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

http://www.badassdigest.com/2010/12/13/review-tron-legacy-is-terrible

A waste all around. I've been played for a sucker.

― benanas foster (Eric H.), Thursday, December 16, 2010 4:42 PM Bookmark

God, is it really, really that bad? Like I would be happy if it were just visually fun enough to watch for like 30-40 minutes and then leave.

xxpost -- sadly too true, I fear.

Sam likes to live in a shipping box with his dog

"Dude, are you a freegan?"

This is really, really important in understanding why Tron: Legacy is bad. In the original Tron there were stakes that went beyond the computer world. Dillinger had stolen the good guy’s code and his MCP was fucking up the system. The action in the computer wasn’t just flashy video game analogues, it was also about solving a problem that could only be solved in the computer world. The computer world impacted the real world. In Tron: Legacy the whole point is to just get out of the computer and essentially turn it off. That’s it. It turns out that Clu, the evil program version of Jeff Bridges who is running ‘The Grid,’ wants to bring an army of programs into the real world but this is a complete non-threat because the basic concept doesn’t make any sense. Even if we accept that the matter to create physical bodies for this army can be accrued, what would even a few thousand guys wielding useless computer game staffs and frisbees do in the real world?

And this is where I take a grain of salt.

I mean do people actually like the original Tron for the compelling story?

It's just really pointless, really loud, and the thrill of the shiny black and neon teal look wears off about as fast as it takes to watch the trailer. Benjamin Button'd Jeff Bridges is beyond awkward. Daft Punk's soundtrack doesn't sound any better in context. Michael Sheen camps it up so badly I assumed it was Alan Cumming. Final "battle" is microbic in scope. (I'll admit that last one may have been on purpose.)

Always a bummer when a no-brainer turns out to be a no-brainer.

Yeah, RIP Burlesque

there's no fucking way this movie will be better than "Hackers"

ok let's not go nuts

^ fucked that up, meant to quote ned

*sigh*

ah well. too much to hope for I suppose. I think the original is really wonderful, so I'm a little wary of people who have no respect for it panning the new one as well (I dunno if I would call the plot of the original a "compelling story" as much as it is just an enjoyably clever re-imagining of the fairly standard little-guy-on-quest-against-big-bad-institution template). otoh all these criticisms seem to be confirming my worst fears.

like when I heard about the young-Bridges-all-CGI character that really gave me pause.

wants to bring an army of programs into the real world but this is a complete non-threat because the basic concept doesn’t make any sense.

surely it makes the same amount of sense as people being zapped INto a computer world. reverse the polarity.

There's, like, one scene that seems to have a sense of humor about the whole thing, and it's when Flynn Jr. gets fitted for his new suit for life in The Grid, and he's attended two by four minxy albino chicks in skin-tight suits and clear stilettos, and they all strut-step to the beat of the Daft Punk backing track. And, for one brief moment, I thought the movie was about to take off into awesome.

he's attended two to by four

I think the original is really wonderful, so I'm a little wary of people who have no respect for it panning the new one as well (I dunno if I would call the plot of the original a "compelling story" as much as it is just an enjoyably clever re-imagining of the fairly standard little-guy-on-quest-against-big-bad-institution template). otoh all these criticisms seem to be confirming my worst fears.

No I do too. I think it's wonderful as a film and when I think about it it is a compelling story, but not because of the "stakes" in the way that reviewer means it, rather because it's about these very vulnerable programs trying to survive a very harsh and totalitarian world. It's the visual aspect of the film that conveys this -- it's not just about the cool neon colors, but the strange pallor of the characters' skin, the way they sort of fade when they're hurt, their smallness next to the big evil MCP ships (whatever the hell they're called) etc.

think the original is about wendy carlos and syd mead+moebius as much as anything else. compare their sounds and designs to the new one and there's no same sense of weirdness and radical invention right? i couldn't envisage an equivalent but i was hoping there could be one - the trailer quashed this so after that it was just hoping it could still at least be as solid as hackers the matrix maybe.

It's actually not THAT bad, on the whole. I'll still take it over whatever Paul Greengrass is cooking up these days. But it's kind of a big missed opportunity. Everyone played it way too safe. They deeply want a franchise out of this.

In fact I think that's something you don't see much anymore -- action/sci-fi films in which the heroes genuinely, convincingly seem like underdogs. Star Wars is also like this -- part of its charm is that Luke, Han, Leia, the droids etc. seem so hapless that you actually wonder if they can make it. (xpost to self)

Don't remember if the original had a scene like the one in TR2N in which two characters walk past a shelf of books and just read off authors: "Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Verne."

fuck franchises

xp

Don't remember if the original had a scene like the one in TR2N in which two characters walk past a shelf of books and just read off authors: "Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Verne."

wait waht

To show what a deep thinker Flynn is.

man this thread is now the saddest thing I've read all day

Yeah, I was trying to think of how those authors might actually inform the movie, but other than maybe Verne I don't see it.

Seems like we live in the era of premature-ejac franchise attempts.

modern-sequel-nostalgic-follow-up is shat shocker

but yeah, it's still upsetting me.

well yeah obviously the odds were against this being any good but still

i didn't need it to be good! i needed it to be endurable!

The 1st movie ruled almost entirely because of the unique visual style, but the story wasnt nearly as bad as reviews of T2 make it out to be. It was a pretty straightforward adventure story that was mostly patterned after simple videogames yet took time out every so often to hint at an underlying mythology. Really the one thing annoying me more than anything in the reviews of the sequel is that the original film was shit.

That Onion review kinda sounds like my worst fears, like they've tried to make it into The Matrix, tying down the visual world with a needlessly complicated plot.

plot should be: oh shit i'm in a video game with my long lost dad. we should fight evil crime computer pew pew
more than that is a sign that the entire film's staff has not seen the original

^^^OTM

there is a vague subtext that I enjoy in the first film: the aging anti-establishment hippie who likes to build weird toys in his garage (ie, the old guy who reappears as the gatekeeper) against the cold corporate authoritarian (David Warner). which is an obvious 70s holdover but I find it kind of endearing. I dunno what the equivalent in this sequel would be

the world needs more hollywood action comedies about phone phreaks and zeroth generation hackers. those were the best scenes in sneakers i cant for the life of me figure out why more peopel dont make them.

xp, hippie dude's son entering the computer and being all corporate and then seeing the error of his ways i guess

That's kind of the story of the start of home computing.

yes why do we only have pirates of silicon valley

That's kind of the story of the start of home computing.

I know! that's what's great about it. and it isn't hamfisted and loaded with exposition either, its conveyed in a couple of brief scenes

maybe social network will get us period movies about hippie programmers

there is a vague subtext that I enjoy in the first film: the aging anti-establishment hippie who likes to build weird toys in his garage (ie, the old guy who reappears as the gatekeeper) against the cold corporate authoritarian (David Warner). which is an obvious 70s holdover but I find it kind of endearing.

Which (ironically) is a Disney theme. Don't forget that the first Tron is basically a retelling/retooling of this movie

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/73/Computer_wore_tennis_shoes_ver1.jpg/220px-Computer_wore_tennis_shoes_ver1.jpg

Yeah, I thought that there was this sizable undercurrent of 1st wave computer types(stoner hippie nerds like how Atari started) who were under attack by encroaching 80s Silicon Valley corporatism.

Still, my hopes for this flick is that I'll be able to get thru it.

Also, y'all should dig up the PC/Xbox game Tron 2.0 from 5-6 years ago, which is totally fun and has a great sense of humor about itself, along with voicework from Boxleitner and Cindy Morgan.

One thing i did think about is the 70's sports they play in the original: frisbee and jai alai.

not feeling this movie at all

first tron is atrocious btw

i've become what i hate

drive-by asshole

want to die

Will it be possible to watch this if you really hate Daft Punk?

Latey Blo Merlier

I owned the original action figures (and car!) for years. Are there action figures for this one?

maybe social network will get us period movies about hippie programmers

Get thee to seeing documentary 'Get Lamp', about the starry-eyed idealists behind text adventures. Lots of fun. Even my wife really enjoyed it, and she's never played a text adventure in her life.

ugh a DOCUMENTARY

WANT

BBS The Documentary also. If you werent into BBSes you probably won't want to sit through all SIX HOURS. However, if you were, then its heaven!

Get thee to seeing documentary 'Get Lamp', about the starry-eyed idealists behind text adventures. Lots of fun. Even my wife really enjoyed it, and she's never played a text adventure in her life.

― buildings with goats on the roof (James Morrison), Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:23 PM Bookmark

This really exists? I feel like there are so many docs in the last 10 years following the formula "The starry-eyed idealist who did/do x nerdy thing"

so

Okay I really want to see "Get Lamp" now.

Seeing Tron on Saturday...am remaining cautiously optimistic but realize that it's likely I may sleep through the whole affair.

And, for one brief moment, I thought the movie was about to take off into awesome.

You mean p0rn, right?

i kinda have been wanting to see get lamp but it's order only as far as i know; not a netflix or online film
http://www.getlamp.com/order/

Get Lamp is pretty fun, especially the interviews with the Infocom folks... a couple of them are just totally awesome, like Al Vezza for example. I wanted them to talk more about the individual games though, and how particular parts came into being. Apparently it was really tough to get any of them to agree to be interviewed at all.

We went to see Daft Punk's "Electroma" last night, which I think I probably enjoyed more than I would have Tron 2.

Mr Veg found Get Lamp on the t0rr3nts...

yeah, get lamp falls under the heading of labors of love i feel uncomfortable illegally torrenting
ymmv of course, no judgments

Bit worried about how many of these guys look like Dr Statham off Green Wing.

i haven't seen the original tron since i was six years old, so i basically have no memory of it. but i went to see this anyway, it was...hmmm. even though you basically knew what was going to happen at all times (like avatar), it didn't make me hate it (like avatar).

but yeah lots of little failures -- i love michael sheen to death but he's acting like this is a "fifth element" remake, and i swear to god the director was like "okay now just wordlessly ham it up for about fifteen minutes and we'll use what's good," and then they used all fifteen minutes. robot jeff bridges had bad lip-syncing and botox forehead, plus his head always looked weirdly pasted onto his suit. and then the son was basically batman in the first fifteen minutes of the movie? idk.

also, SPOILER maybe, but what the hell was with "oh, tron helped me out" and then "oh, tron was destroyed" and then "oh, tron isn't destroyed, he's just evil" and then "wait a second tron changed his mind, he's good now." and tron was basically indistinguishable from every other helmeted dude there, so the characters always had to helpfully point out "o look you guys it's tron!!" just maybe don't have tron in the movie if his presence is so confounding.

Haha, yeah, it was sorta like someone at the last minute said, "Shouldn't we have Tron in this movie at some point?"

So... the only reasonably not-too-bad thing about the movie is what these guys did? (although I like the soundtrack vv much myself)

http://slyoyster.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/5258641719_1140917dc1_z.jpg

Went to see this last night (Fri night 8.30 showing - half full cinema??). Anyway, here's what I liked about TRON: Legacy:

1. The Daft Punk soundtrack. As a pure DP album I was slightly disappointed, but in context it is every inch terrific.
2. The sound design in general. It puts a boot through yer heed.
3. That one blondie Tronette lady.
4. The Recognizers. The one thing from the original film that has been improved upon.
5. The Son of Dillinger/Alan face-off over the boardroom table. The film needed more of these characters, imo.
6. Um.
7. That's kind of it?

What I disliked about TRON: Legacy (deep breath):

1. The main character, Son of Flynn, whoever. Started off as merely charmless, ended up as actually hateable.
2. The fact that is was all so weirdly boringy?
3. Flynn's character is now more The Dude from The Big Lebowski + a man whose very soul has been yanked out of him + not one iota like the character Kevin Flynn from the 1982 movie, TRON.
4. The less said about CLU the better.
5. I watched this with a bad head cold, so...
6. Michael Sheen's albino Ziggy Stardust-like character. What was with his vocal inflections? "I assumed they were killed in the eleva-TAH!" Everything about this character was embarrassing.
7. The endless, dreary, pseudo-deep waffle (which I presume was exposition, but I just couldn't listen to it) which took up about 99.99999999% of the movie and crippled any sense of momentum.
8. I mean, It's a TRON movie, ffs. Get on with it.
9. Had no idea what was going on.
10. Boring film.

100. It takes itself far too seriously. The original had a sense of its own ridiculousness ("SEND IN THE LOGIC PROBE!"), and flashes of wry humour. And it was fun. This isn't fun.

yeah, i was surprised when it turned out the company board had nothing to do with the rest of the film. you have cillian murphy as a bearded hipster programmer, why aren't you leaning on that more?

oh god that chillian murphy thing was (interesting but) awful. i am SO GLAD the climax wasn't some "back in the real world" stuff.

this movie was okay. the comments above are mostly correct, but it was better than it's being given credit for (esp remembering the Avatar raves). the visual design was just fucking amazing - i found it creative, original, imaginative, just a beautiful new (or, if you want, v updated) pallette for sci-fi. reminded me of Blade Runner in that way - the way it just feels so visually original.

MUCH MUCH more inventive, in terms of "new looks for sci-fi" than James Cameron's silly-looking Elfworld creatures.

and so i love that about it. the idea of inventing new (or much-refreshed) imagery/textures in a sci-fi context. would that there were more of this, in movie-making. i can see this becoming a major stylistic touchstone for kids, much like the original was.

I believe the main reason for making this movie was to get into the Guinness book

I thought it looked quite drab, tbh. It's that murky blue/grey palette we've seen in so many cgi fests; all those Underworld films and such like.

I enjoyed this actually (and so did my 13 year old son but he's a big Daft Punk fan, he elbowed me in the ribs when they appeared).
I thought Sheen's bit was quite funny and Bridges was pretty good. Loved the white Eames chair. Excellent sound. Didn't like Hedlund (yes I had to look him up - not anticipating great things from him as Dean Moriarty...), didn't like the ending. But overall I thought it sped past in a pleasant manner.

Don't remember if the original had a scene like the one in TR2N in which two characters walk past a shelf of books and just read off authors: "Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Verne."

Lol what cracked me up the most is that frigging Edith Whatron's The Age of Innocence was on his shelf. OTOH maybe that isn't all that dift than having Anna Karenina.

I liked this movie to look at, except fakey young Jeff Bridges looked kinda freaky (but not 1/10th as freaky as the characters in the trailer for "Mom Needs Mars"). Also sounded good. The whole theme about "perfection" really drove me nuts.

I esp. liked Flynn's cool white room with the glowy furniture and fiber optics fire.

Everyone seems to be forgetting that the first TRON was boring as hell. I expected this one to me no different, and was not surprised that there was a lot of talking about computer stuff and really not that much action. It was pretty fair, not much to hate on really. It didn't surpass my wild fanboy expectations but I didn't leave feeling disappointed.

this was fun, but i rly liked the soundtrack and the glow in the dark shit and jeff bridges playing the dude playing steve jobs

so if u dont like that shit....

Saw it today: the music was so right on, the action sequences really engaging & exciting...the main problem was the nothing happening around it. and the shitty dialog. Even the original was at least a little snappier.

Loved the look of it, like a Wachowski Blade Runner.

I dunno, it was just irritating how bad the framework of the movie was around these pretty cool elements.

Mr Veg said: "The first movie was just kinda bad. This was actual crap."

This ripped off Star Wars (original AND new trilogy, ouch) beat-for-beat in so many ways that I could hardly think of anything else.

Forget where there was a genocide of perfect idiot manchildren in Star Wars (I thought this was the weirdest part of this Tron movie).

I looked up Olivia Wilde's character, Cora – her name is actually spelled "Quora." Silly. This movie had an important lesson: don't do about randomly mirror imaging scenes if your character has asymmetrical bangs: it gives the game away!

:

"It's like digital jazz, man!"
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I think this movie broke my brain.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1339119/The-real-Tron-Lightcycle-hit-120mph-costs-55-000.html

this didn't do that well in the box office for week one.

"It's like digital jazz, man!"

lold at this tbh

I kept hoping they'd have a shot of the all white living room and there'd be an oriental rug in the middle of the floor... Bridges was on a definite Dude trip

Saw this sort of by default yesterday after Harry Potter was sold out. Wife and I never saw a 3D film in a theater, so we made a split second decision to see this. I thought it looked great, but the dialogue and acting was atrocious. Bridges should have just actually dressed and played the Dude throughout the movie.

Just saw this. First thing I did when I got back was to open this thread to talk about it and then I realised I have nothing at all to say about it. Not as bad as I feared from the reviews, but, eh.

Have also IMDBed ridiculous Bowie dude with ridiculous fake British accent and was rather surprised to discover that he is actually British. (Yeah, I have seen him in other stuff but didn't recognise him. I'm not very good with actors.)

Oh, one thing: given how SLOW it felt with all the long unnecessary talky interludes, the bits where anything happened felt pretty strangely unexplained. Or maybe that was just me not keeping up.

SPOILER BELOW

Bridges and robot Bridges inexplicably blow up the whole Tron universe felt very silly. Why would that happen!??? Felt like a panel of executives directed this.

Felt like a panel of executives directed this.

Agreed.

Why has there not been a Tron Grit YouTube video yet.

Oh wait, there is one. Haha

The light cycle and light jet scenes were pretty great, but the rest of the movie was meh. I'm glad I saw it in the theater, but not so stoked that I paid to see it in the theater.

Ah well.

Seeing a matinee of this on NYE day.

Also, there are parts in the original where Bridges is full-on young & energetic Dude mode, like the scene backstage at the Flynn's Arcade

In how many D did y'all watch it? (or is there no 2D version?)

9D

There is a 2D, but at the 2 cinemas showing it here there's only one 2D showing per day and several 3D. The few scenes with 3D didn't really justify the surcharge imo. Sad cz it looks like it should be a really 3D film and if we'd gone in 2D we might've thought we were missing out.

(was also pissed off because the last 3D film I saw the ushers were practically frisking people to get the glasses back afterwards, and when we arrived this time we were asked if we'd brought glasses, and had to pay extra for not having run off with them last time)

I saw it in 3D (not IMAX) but didn't even notice the 3D most of the time.

I kind of wish this did a thing like Spy kids 3-D did where there was a little picture in the corner or some kind of notification for the "put on your glasses!" scenes. I didn't like wearing the glasses during the 2-D scenes, they make shit darker & harder to see. Whine whine whine.

Yeah I felt sort of cheated that it wasn't all in 3D.

Wait, what? Parts of this are not in 3D?

real world bits

Are they mental?

Yup, pretty much

I enjoyed this.

Really had to constrain myself from yelling "She won't live! But then again, who does?" during the last shot

I haven't read the thread so please humor me here

- This is not a Tron movie
- This is actually a movie about where 13 went after she magically disappeared from New Jersey for no reason!!
- That makes it a much better movie
- Clearly JB is just kinda channelling the dude, probably a combination of ha-ha scriptwriting + how do I as a seasoned professional say these lines without a vomit experience
- garrett hedlund is just another data point in a disturbing sci-fi remake casting pattern wherein the blandest possible not-even-that-pretty boys get dropped into leading man roles e.g. hayden c, chris pike, ok Im out
- seriously olivia carries this film
- if people have beef with tony blair as david bowie I don't get that. if that had been a random set piece in a dr who 2-parter I think people would be hailing it and doing whatever whovians do in place of throwin' the goats (do real live tom baker whovians throw them goats? I does, like when time-backwards scrooge gambon got a honk from rent-a-bride, I think I threw goats -may have been drunk)
- I appreciated the 2001 hotel room, it kinda makes sense that JB would live there, also, why let tarantino have all the hobvious homage hwithin ha homage hfun?
- with all the other pastiche going on I thought the explicit crib of boxleitner's least interesting line might just have qualified as insipid and unnecessary. How do you get "rinzler" from "tron," btw? Rinzler is a guy who founded the folklife festival. OK maybe that is how that happens, opposites or something.
- I hope bruce box made a million or a few thereof from this film, if he didn't earn it off the first one. I don't know how all that works but I am always sad to think people who played a huge role in my cultural shit comin' up make poo money is sad in this age of America. Fuckin' crap man.
- I also hope 13 comes back to House w/ byangs (that is when bang A and bang B are diff lengths connected by other interstitial bangs whose length approximates the vector of oh wow this is some ok greek wine)
- byangs!!!
- all the jokes were bad. are there sci-fi movies where jokes are good? There are some zings in star wars where like han and chewie give each other shit but I think a "good" joke in space country means breaking the fourth wall, so maybe occupational or buddy shit-talk w/in the context of the moon town is the only good option
- OST wasn't bad but it sounded way more like Scarface than Tron. This makes sense because as you know the French version of Tron was released with a Moroder-produced score. You didn't know that? Oh ho that is because I made it up, it is a lie

I enjoyed this movie, overall, but
http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2009/3/9/12/this-is-not-a-pipe-18283-1236615155-11.jpg

I enjoyed this.

Really had to constrain myself from yelling "She won't live! But then again, who does?" during the last shot

― Crazed Mister Handy (kingfish), Friday, December 31, 2010 8:29 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark

hahahaha OTM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tron_2.0
circa: 2003

played this as t33n, the similarities between the movie and this are pretty startling. Kinda bummed it isn't getting as much recog for it's vision as the film is, as the videogame's version felt so much more realized.

Oh shit how did I forget that forest crap, thirded

Yeah, Olivia did a far better job than I ever would have expected. The vast gulf bet/w her and blondie seems most dramatic in the scene on the solar sailer v2.0. It's in the difference bet/w how he delivers his cornball dialogue("no one's ever asked me to describe a sunrise before") and something about her smile and giddy countenance at the prospect of finally seeing the real world. She has an excited glow to her face, and not one provided by the suit lighting.

the tron -> rinzler -> tron thing was just stupid and nowhere near developed enough. Yeah, we recognize the dot pattern on his suit, but a faceless goon w/ no dialogue with two chakrams suddenly turning face ain't somethig i really care about. Sure we see the color change, but I was seriously expecting a stinger shot of him climbing up on the shore or bobbing to the surface or something. As it is, we just get a last-minute conversion.

imdb says the boardroom shit w/ cillian murphy(uncredited) is a (probable?) set-up for the sequel.

Play Tron 2.0. You can get it cheap. I found it at a Goodwill for $3.99. The color scheme is far better.

Also, the dominant color choice of white-ish vs orange-ish/amber is not nearly as cool as glowing blue vs glowing red. Modern color choices are blah.

Did anybody try playing Tron:Evolution? The thing is parkour shovelware, but i'm wondering if it's worth any attempt to adjust the shit controls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WETwsY5q7K4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeNkMx0AaHw

Bruce Box, Cindy Morgan, and Rebecca Romijin provide voices.

Tron City should have looked like it did in the second clip.

Which, admittedly, isn't really all that impressive until you head indoors. Like wtf are there skyscrapers for, logically?

I LEIK TRACK 6

I like track 3

- This is actually a movie about where 13 went after she magically disappeared from New Jersey for no reason!!

What the heck does this mean? What/who is "13"?

SHe is a character from House M.D. played by the same actress, and that is the best sentence in the whole thread!

- This is actually a movie about where 13 went after she magically disappeared from New Jersey for no reason!!
- That makes it a much better movie

This does make me like the movie a lot more.

Definitely had the most charisma on screen aside from Albino Stardust.

I wish the movie had been about him and 13 tbh.

Instead of red/blue, black/white.

I thought the albino glam rocker guy was hella irritating, he seemed like such an obvious attempt to introduce a "quirky" supporting character, and I hated the way the actor hammed it up to the 10th degree. In fact I think the biggest problem with the movie was that none of the characters were interesting at all:

* The main guy was totally bland and forgettable.
* Good Jeff Bridges was all "deep, man" + Obi-Wan without the charisma of Alec Guinness.
* Evil Jeff Bridges was just your standard megalomaniac villain. They might've gotten something out of the juxtaposition that he was the "bad son" who felt he was abandoned by his "dad", whereas the main guy was the "good son" daddy loved, but this was left undeveloped.
* Tron was barely there, and his sudden switch of sides came out of the blue, as he was given no character time at all. Why couldn't he have come back for the final battle instead of dying immediately after his "redemption"?
* I admit the girl was okay, but even though her introduction scene was cool, for most of the movie she was just the typical Damsel in Distress looking all vulnerable and stuff. Props for the film-makers for not making her and the main guy a couple though, that was pretty much the only cliche the movie avoided. Though I'm sure they'll be a couple in the sequel.

I like near the end of the film:

"Let me show you something you've never seen before" (or whatever he says to her)

...VANCOUVER!

It was a set up for the audience to make penis jokes.

This looks campy enough to have some Rocky Horror potential..

Okay a full-on Daft Punk scored Tron musical would rule.

Derez!

Anyway I went the full on 3D IMAX route for this the other night with friends and it made one hell of a two hour demo reel. But pretty much everything everyone else has said applies.

I was a little bemused at how much was borrowed from the Star Wars prequels. I can't recall who first noted that the difference between those two trilogies is that there's nobody fully breezy and talking shit in the prequels like Han Solo is in the original to provide a relaxed anchor -- here the difference is between having Bridges nail that kind of thing in the first movie but having nobody at all like that in this one, because the script is mostly unrelenting grimness.

going into the cinema i was still expecting the lightcycles to do 90d turns at some point and that a Recognizer would do more than just ferry people around ugh

worst thing about the film not pivotal to the story was probably the lack of cute/cartoonish visual humour (unlike in the orig), plus why was it so dark and stormy even in the flashbacks when Flynn was in control of designing the world (should've shown a proper transition from the og Tron world to the current design) - stripping out pretty much anything that might actually be fun for a PG

one of the few scenes i liked was when Clu and his cronies were bemused by the stuff in Flynn's house that didn't have a particular purpose (the glass fruit) or logical concept to them (the books) - also how Flynn just whipped up a roast suckling pig out of nowhere (definitely what i would do if i was omnipotent in a virtual domain)

that a Recognizer would do more than just ferry people around ugh

I love how in the original one of the first things you see is one of them apparently stomping the first Clu out of existence.

probably the lack of cute/cartoonish visual humour (unlike in the orig)

I half assume there's a do-you-see moment with the new sailor craft moving over a new Mickey Mouse outline but you never know.

I noticed one overt nod that I'm sure I'd already read about but forgotten -- Steven Lisberger was the bartender.

No David Warner tho :(

Quest of the Delta Knights should be reissued for imax 3d.

xpost -- No Master Control Program! You couldn't go wrong with him as a villain, Sauron meets Goldfinger or something.

i was still expecting the lightcycles to do 90d turns at some point

they don't?? gah useless

Quest of the Delta Knights should be reissued for imax 3d.

Leonardo would be even more annoying.

"who does he calculate he is ?!"

this was deeply deeply silly

agree that there was some enjoyable eye-candy as many have pointed out re: lightcycle scene etc but man so dumb

Finally went to see this (opted for 2D) and liked it more than the review led me to expect. The main problem with the film is there is no real struggle going from one set-piece to the next. Like, getting back old Flynn's disc is just, 'ok, I'm going to go get this thing right now' etc.

I'm *really* glad I avoided listening to the soundtrack before seeing the movie as I was very impressed with it - the only thing missing was a short signature recurring melody like the original which is maybe too cheesy for movies now, not sure.

more than the review(s)

Also, young Flynn/Clu CGI was embarrassing.

yeah the central conflict(s) of the scene seemed totally arbitrary, made up on the spot, etc. Also for a bunch of scenes after Bridges disc had been stolen he was still walking around with a disc on his back...? there were a ton of these nonsensical continuity errors/flaws, beyond just the basic conceptual problems.

I laughed a lot at this movie but don't think it was really good in any way - the original has a certain elegance and simplicity both conceptually and in terms of design, and this didn't have any of that.

It is kind of fun to watch at the imax because of the visuals and music, but it is so so dumb.

yeah good sdtk

made me want a Wachowski directed speed racer 3d.

pretty certain that no one in the history of mankind has ever said those words in that sequence before

"It doesn't matter if racing never changes. What matters is if we let racing change us. Every one of us has to find a reason to do this. You dont climb into a T-180 to be a driver. You do it because you're driven."

pretty certain that no one in the history of mankind has ever said those words in that sequence before

I almost certainly have

speed racer is actually the 4th matrix movie btw
it is set in the matrix after neo punched the matrix so hard in the face that it passed out and woke up as a cross between tank girl and the fifth element starring john goodman, a chimpanzee and some milk

you're not selling me here

Did anybody see "Summer Wars"?

no

had its moments

Summer Wars was awesome, especially the cyberspace bits! It's pretty hard these days to make such a tired concept as "virtual reality" look unique and interesting, but that movie did it, even moreso than Tron Legacy.

Speed Racer was miles away better than the 3rd Matrix movie.

Speed Racer was miles away better than the 3rd Matrix movies.

Fixed.

Huh:

Before it got released on DVD today, Tron: Legacy managed to play in theaters long enough to establish Joseph Kosinski as the highest-grossing first-time director of a live-action film in Hollywood history. The film's $399 million global gross recently eclipsed the $397.5 million gross that JJ Abrams turned in on 2006's Mission: Impossible 3.

...Disney will make some money on Tron: Legacy, but they won't need to back up the Brink's truck.

But Tron: Legacy's performance certainly gives the studio reason to think it has poured the foundation for a franchise. Disney has begun work on a sequel, which Kosinski is constructing with original writers Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz.

when I was a program my name was Clu
if my body's digital my stripes are blue

yeah they are making a lot of noise about how the 2nd one is going to be the serious/groundbreaking "Empire Strikes Back"-level entry. I'm skeptical

Great, meaning the one after that will have digital Ewoks.

lol

Anyway, fun interview with Boxleitner.

watched about half of this last night; it's a muddled stupid mess with nice bluray eyecandy. fell asleep when the son decided to storm the castle with the cute... program? iso? whatever the hell these things are? sending it back to netflix; shoulda followed my instincts and skipped it entirely.

that does it, i'm never going to watch this.

I was actually excited somewhere at the start of this thread too!
it's basically unwatchable.

a muddled stupid mess with nice bluray eyecandy.

otm

i have a high tolerance for sci-fi gobbledygook and even i thought this was zzzzzzzzzz

the blu-ray looked stunning on my roommate's tv. would use as a tech demo to show off my fancy tv if i had one.

this was at least half an hour too long, I took a nap in the middle for maybe 20 minutes and woke up and I'm pretty sure I didn't miss anything critical, since the plot is basically just a very long neon fight scene. still thought it was cool and bridges was campy and great.

I watched the blu-ray of this last night, and it really does look good, but god does it ever drag from Flynn in his zen room onwards.

About to watch this for the first time. Christ, why does every movie these days have to be at least 2 hours?

Don't really expect it to be anything special. The original Tron ruled because of the bizarre rotoscoped glowing effects and set design, and I can't imagine anything that unique coming from this one.

don't expect anything vaguely watchable to come from that one

About 50 mins in. Already it feels like a Tron commercial, then Attack of the Clones, then Phantom Menace and then Batman with alot of the Matrix thrown in for good measure. I really don't like how Tron world is pretty much the real world but DARK and with lots of glass computers. Kinda preferred the old one, how it was all more abstract.

On the plus side, yay for Tron babes.

Tron babe <3 up Jules Verne. This film is nerd pandering overload.

This movie is really nice eye-candy! But yeah totally under the spell of bloated, massive, needlessly complicated modern adventure BS.

finally caught this today. and loved it tbh, which I'm really surprised at. Luckily I've realised that when i watch Tron films I suspend every ounce of belief.

even Bridges dodgy young facial effects couldn't spoil it for me. and the soundtrack, oh maaaan.

and yes at tron babes!

"disbelief". ffs.

are they going to be making a third movie then? Seems that scene in the real world with dillingers son etc was the start of something i was expecting the movie to return to. and also seeing tron colour change, and then end abrubtly?

was also glad that this film wasn't all about light cycles - which some of the trailers fooled me into thinking. The actual LC scene was terrific though.

god that whole Castor section, from the start of their entrance to his club to his final end, is just gorgeous stuff

Well this might work. In a 'The Clone Wars series kinda beats out the prequels' way.

http://www.avclub.com/article/disney-derezzes-tron-3-rumors-220122

No TR3N

bummer, but no doubt something in the future will still happen (thinks: reboot)

About that something, and/or maybe a TR3N

http://io9.gizmodo.com/heres-what-tron-3-was-going-to-be-and-may-still-be-ab-1792863604

Yeah, I dunno if that would happen anytime soon. As even the article points out, Disney has Star Wars and Marvel now, and doesn't need Tron to attract the non-Princesses audiences.

Once one or the other franchises start losing money(in 15-20 years?), then you'll see Tron getting brushed off

Wonder if we'll ever get that Black Hole reboot

http://movieweb.com/movie/the-black-hole-2016/

needs its own thread imo

Not so sure how crazy excited I'd really be for a Tron film set in the normal world tbf.

Uh?

http://io9.gizmodo.com/report-disney-wants-to-reboot-tron-with-jared-leto-1792947026

Just no more orange and teal

thought about this movie again, and how I enjoyed it a lot more than most

this comment from max somewhat predicted Halt and Catch Fire, though

maybe social network will get us period movies about hippie programmers

― max, Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:07 PM (seven years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

movie and soundtrack are great

the Tron ride at Disney World fucking rules

Watching this finally.

Ok so users who get beamed into the grid still have to eat.

Where the fuck do they piss and shit? Or are you telling me computer programs also have bodily functions and this bathrooms

Digital jazz, digital bathrooms.

Wait programs fuck, too?

Cludolph Hitler

What did you think of it?

it was fun to look at and i wasn't bored but found it hard to really get fully invested.

Well here we go I guess:

https://gizmodo.com/tron-3-disney-production-jared-leto-1851182118

Plotwise, details on the threequel are scarce. What’s mainly known is that Jared Leto will have the lead role (and serve as a producer), joined by the likes of Jodie Turner-Smith, Cameron Monaghan, Evan Peters, and Greta Lee.

ayiyi

They should let Leto do the soundtrack.

hmm, interesting

is it

maybe. i don't know. I love tron. I don't want it ruined.

The original Tron video game >>> the original Tron movie

And Jeff's on board:

https://gizmodo.com/tron-ares-jeff-bridges-jared-leto-kevin-flynn-disney-gr-1851443187

Hmmmmmmmm

Hm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVG_X_7Naw

Honestly the most interesting thing is the reminder at the end that Nine Inch Nails (rather than specifically Reznor/Ross) are doing the soundtrack, which hopefully means more slamming beats per what we hear than forlorn pianos in vast empty rooms.

I like how the implied and unplanned subtext now is "Uh yeah well Jared's an abusive cult leader leading people around BUT ANYWAY let's make him be the victim!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YShVEXb7-ic

As a friend elsewhere said: "the promise in that trailer that he'll be killed multiple times is appealing"

never not going to read that as TRON: ARSE

He fights for the losers

admittedly this is the only movie lately i'm looking forward to

but where ffs is sam flynn and the iso?

So what if I told you that a significant part of the screenplay of Tron: Ares is about how much Jared Leto’s program character loves Depeche Mode so much he can’t put it into words?

I am not joking, BTW.

Oh and the movie ends with his now human character riding a Ducati motorcycle around India looking to find himself, mannnnn.

I’m not joking about that either!

Anyway I thoroughly appreciated a Nine Inch Nails album visualizer blasting out over a theater sound system but sadly there were these annoying bits of people talking that kept getting in the way.

but where ffs is sam flynn and the iso?

This is dealt with in a casual reference near the start of the film and in then in a bizarro attempt at some kind of sequel-baiting at the end.

okay at least they aknowledged them then

What did you think overall?

I bet he appreciated a Nine Inch Nails album visualizer blasting out over a theater sound system but found there were these annoying bits of people talking that kept getting in the way.

I sas a trailer for this and it made a big deal at the end to boast "Music By Nine Inch Nails" or something. The next trailer for was "Wuthering Heights," and at the end it boasted "With Music By Charli XCX" or something similar. Lotta that going around.

xp fairs

Watched it today with my 11yo son. He thought it was great. I thought it was… not great.

Some really bad lines in the script, hobbled all the more by Jared Leto trying to say them. And some *really* stupid plot logic throughout. Also there were at least two actors in this film that I’ve seen in things before, but seemed to be relegated to extras—leaving me to think there are whole sections of this film that had been chopped out.

At its core though, the biggest flaw is in the premise. The real fun of Tron movies is watching the characters on the grid. The real world stuff is more of an obligatory slog at the beginning for the sake of exposition. But this movie inverts that and all the action in the real world just doesn’t feel that special.

Anyway, all that said it was a fine way to spend an afternoon with my kid. And his insistence that whatever movie he just saw is the greatest movie he’s ever seen makes all the complaints melt away.

Watched it today with my 11yo son. He thought it was great. I thought it was… not great.

this also describes the original Tron, which I thought was great when I was a kid, and then, when rewatching it years later, I realized it was pretty boring.

The real fun of Tron movies is watching the characters on the grid. The real world stuff is more of an obligatory slog at the beginning for the sake of exposition. But this movie inverts that and all the action in the real world just doesn’t feel that special.

absolutely. if this new movie spends significant amounts of time in 'the real world' I'm not sure what the point of it even is

also why do they keep putting jared leto in movies? he is not a box office draw. no one likes him. he has loads of credible abuse allegations. and he's not a good actor.

The only thing that would've made me want to see this is if the cycles, recognizers etc. in their real world deterioration ended up looking like the original versions.

this also describes the original Tron, which I thought was great when I was a kid, and then, when rewatching it years later, I realized it was pretty boring.

The first Tron is definitely much slower than I remember but its aesthetic still makes up for it. I rewatched it with my kids a year or two ago and we all (still) loved it.

It's a very boring plot but I agree the look helps a lot, 80's futurism meets silent film aesthetics.

The one thing I took away from watching it and the second one (have not and prob will not see this third installment) is that while neither has a good story, the original has a coherent story that makes sense in an A leads to B kinda way, while I remember the second feeling diffuse in that usual modern blockbuster written by 70 people style.

"Also there were at least two actors in this film that I’ve seen in things before, but seemed to be relegated to extras—leaving me to think there are whole sections of this film that had been chopped out."

RLM had a similar reaction to Cameron Monaghan, who apparently has a fairly distinctive role in the film, but his face only appears very briefly because he spends most of his screentime wearing a mask. Ordinarily the inclusion of his character would be a sequel hook - perhaps he might appear in the next film - but that's unlikely. For two very good reasons.

Their take was that the first film was a technical marvel filled with state of the art visual effects and a groundbreaking electronic score that bombed because it was boring, but over the years the film developed a cult following, which led to a sequel that was a technical marvel filled with state of the art visual effects and a groundbreaking electronic score that bombed because it was boring, but over the years the film developed a cult following, which etc.

I bought Tron on DVD when it came out, and then stupidly I threw away the packaging. Which was stupid, because in typical Disney style the DVD went out of print a few years later and then shot up in price. I remember one of the documentaries revealed that Jeff Bridges still has a TRON hat he occasionally wears because it brings him peace. Series of disjointed, disconnected paragraphs. Disjointed sentences. That's what happens when you write things while eating a bag of crisps. No flow because of the licking.

There was a bunch of good-looking 1980s films that were basically just chases with really good production design. TRON, Labyrinth, The Dark Crystal etc. You'd think they would reboot them by taking the great production design and beefing up the story, but no, they just beef up the production design and make the story more eventful, but not actually any better. This would also have been perfect as a Netflix shot-in-The-Volume miniseries, but again no.

I saw a video about the 4k restoration of the original film, which looked great (the restoration). All these nerds were psyched to pick it up on DVD, and I appreciate their enthusiasm, but the movie is just not very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYs6VMEOCcs

I probably was more enthusiastic about Tron Legacy than 95% of people but this one tried to create this video/audio spectacle with minimal plotting that just didn't land. Starting in medias res as two companies are seeking the same thing could work, but it was simplified down to a point where I'm wondering if it was targeted at a particularly 10 year old child demographic. Good company makes world better, bad company makes war? My friend indicated his kid liked the movie, so I'll have to ask what the middle school take was.

The second major plot swing hinging on whether you'd like to see more of Jared Leto was a misstep, but I guess he was enthusiastic about Disney making the movie and that's how we arrived at this point.

mh my 11 year old son loved it so your theory holds

got some residual Ready Player One (have not watched, understand notionally) and/or Minecraft vibes off of the "wow, we're in the 80s Tron in this scene" vibes. I guess that's kind of what they were going for?

Wish we had more emotional resonance with Greta Lee's character, but it seemed to be sidelined in lieu of the non-development of the Ares character. I probably spent more time trying to figure out what the movie was trying to be during dialogue scenes than I was hooked into the residual plot