Anticipate "An American Carol"; the forthcoming right-wing David Zucker comedy that takes aim at our "new McCarthy era"

What's wrong with a right wing version of Southland Tales?

It'll probably be just as successful.

Eventually, the conversation turns from policy to punditry. Grammer, who is friends with Ann Coulter, says he quoted her once to some of the young people who work for him.

"'Ann Coulter,'" he says, recalling their horror and assuming their voice. "'She's the antichrist.' And I said: 'What the f-- do you know about the antichrist? You don't even believe in Christ.'"

wonder what zucker thinks about this^^

David Alan Grier plays a slave in a scene designed to show Malone what might have happened if the United States had not fought the Civil War. As Patton explains to a dumbfounded Malone that the plantation they are visiting is his own, Grier thanks the documentarian for being such a humane owner. As they leave, another slave, played by Gary Coleman, finishes polishing a car and yells "Hey, Barack!" before tossing the sponge to someone off-camera.

......

this is going to do really well in the current political climate

i can understand why dumb white fundies fall for this "muslims want to destroy everything you care about" shit but why the hell are secular jews so susceptible to it??

"israel wiped off the map" and all that but is anybody seriously buying the whole achmedinejad = hitler b.s.

As Patton explains to a dumbfounded Malone that the plantation they are visiting is his own, Grier thanks the documentarian for being such a humane owner. As they leave, another slave, played by Gary Coleman, finishes polishing a car and yells "Hey, Barack!" before tossing the sponge to someone off-camera.

whoah

"israel wiped off the map" and all that but is anybody seriously buying the whole achmedinejad = hitler b.s.

I take it you do not have any completely insane old right-wing jews in your family

hahaha guilty

i dated a jewish girl but her parents were academic liberals who didnt believe in god. i also dated a muslim girl whose dad voted republican because he owned rug stores and didnt like paying taxes.

there is a loud and very irritating minority in the Jewish community that has never really recovered from the trauma of the Holocaust and live every single day as if it is still 1941. they stockpile food and are completely paranoid that all germans and arabs are anti-semites and seriously think that Israel can do wrong and that for a Jew to speak ill of zionist zealotry is akin to disowning your family.

I'll be interested to see how well this does at the box office. Hollywood's liberal leanings go back a long ways, but a successful and super-explicitly conservative film would be bound to generate copycat follow ups.

this is gonna bomb who are you kidding

They seem to attend hebrew language meetup.com groups in force (xpost)

More than likely, but you never know. What if it's really fucking funny?

xpost

if "thank allah for the aclu" is the level of inspiration we're talking about here, i think we can rule that out.

I'll thank Helen Keller, if that's okay

see now helen keller as an airport security person hired under the americans with disabilities act ... ok, it still wouldn't be funny but it would be better.

helen keller RIP

Helen Keller's later life should be taught about more(or at all, really).

Perhaps this will be just as successful and as funny as "The Half Hour News Hour"

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/Half_8.14.jpg

I'll be interested to see how well this does at the box office.

Uh if this goes anywhere but straight to DVD I'll eat my hat.

I suppose so, but the "what if?" still intrigues me.

And if we're lucky, this will be as cutting & insightful as Zucker's Madeline Albright slam from two years ago.

Doncha see?! She's singin' "Kumbaya" with terrists! There's no way that's not funny!!

DAVID ZUCKER DAVID ZUCKER DAVID ZUCKER DAVID ZUCKER DAVID ZUCKER DAVID ZUCKER DAVID ZUCKER DAVID ZUCKER DAVID ZUCKER DAVID ZUCKER DAVID ZUCKER DAVID ZUCKER

Come on people! 1/3rd of the greatest comedy team in the history of cinema is making movies again!! This is AWESOME news!!

I'm not a fan of the democratic ban thing...but if they're republican bans, you're in schtuck, Mr. Snrub.

david zucker has been making movies in the last couple years bro
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/11/Scary_movie_four_ver4.jpg/200px-Scary_movie_four_ver4.jpg

yeah he cranks out the crap, one a year at least

Then again those two retards that make that string of "____________ MOVIE" movies get theatrical release so any frickin' thing is possible. Still, I can imagine people staying away from this in droves. I mean, how well do Larry the Fucking Cable Guy movies do at the BO, you know?

BO more like BHO amirite

I knew about Kelsey Grammer (although I thought he was more of a slightly right-leaning moderate), but not James Woods and Dennis Hopper too! :'(

are you kidding?? Woods made some totally apeshit public statements after 9/11... bank commercial spokesman Hopper's been an outed rightie for a long-time and has had famously public spats with former trip-buddy Peter Fonda.

I'll try to find it but James Woods basically went to the press with a story about how he'd spotted some "suspicious"-looking Arab dudes on a plane flight and how angry he was that the authorities didn't immediately investigate when he tried to contact them

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/woods.asp

Politics

A campaign contributions search for Zucker, once a longtime liberal Democrat, shows his first right-leaning contribution as US$2647 to ClubforGrowth.NET, a website which hosts political videos including his initial anti-Kerry video.[5] Further using campaign donations as a guide, his brother Jerry apparently continues to identify as a Democrat.[6] On October 10, 2006, the Drudge Report published a link to a political ad Zucker produced and later appeared on Youtube.[7] In a quote from a Drudge Report exclusive:
“ In the ad, Zucker....recreates former Clinton Secretary of State Madeleine Albright's 2000 visit to North Korea. During the visit, Secretary Albright presented North Korean dictator Kim Jong Il with a basketball autographed by former NBA superstar Michael Jordan.

Actress Adele Stasilli-Fernandez, playing Albright, is shown presenting Kim Jong Il with the Michael Jordan basketball, painting the walls of Osama bin Laden's Afghanistan cave and turning a blind eye to suicide bombers. In one scene, her skirt rips as she changes the tire of a Middle Eastern dictator's limousine.

One GOP strategist said "jaws dropped" when the ad was first viewed. "Nobody could believe Zucker thought any political organization could use this ad. It makes a point, but it's way over the top."
”

On October 23, 2006, a second Zucker video, “The Taxman”, was posted to YouTube.[8] The spot suggests that Democrats, if elected, would raise taxes.

On December 18, 2006, a third was posted, this time with the Iraq Study Group in his sights.[9] This video compares study group's recommendations with that of the British appeasement of Hitler prior to World War II.

Apparently Zucker had the Dennis Miller-style freakout, where 9/11 caused him to unleash his inner reactionary douchbag

yeah there was that wave of "oh thank god a war i can cheer for" among a lot of '60s types.

While digging around for that "FBO" tshirt that some rightwing site was hawking, I stumbled upon this amalgamation of 2008 political tshirts from all over the spectrum, and Good Christ, you guys gotta see these.

Sample:

http://images.cafepress.com/image/28345749.jpg

I'd buy this if it also had "WORLD TOUR '83" on it.

lololol that is total sub-Iron Maiden shit OTM

I was thinking Megadeth, but yeah. Flashbacks to jr high.

"ON TOUR WITH EXODUS AND TESTAMENT"

Uh if this goes anywhere but straight to DVD I'll eat my hat.

Might have to get your fork and knife out, Werner Herzog - the article says they have a distribution deal with Vivendi Entertainment for a "wide release" on October 3rd (which is a Friday).

Opening night party! (Buying a ticket to something else, of course)

Is that Obama shirt pro- or anti-?

^^^exactly

Anyway, seeing as how the 'big names' aren't all that big now...

I seriously don't know. I think the bloody typeface is supposed to be anti, but I see this and i think "wow, obama is fucking metal"

I'd love to see him speak at Ozzfest with that on the podium instead of that main seal of his.

oh here's another great one:

http://www.cafepress.com/buy/hillary%20clinton/-/pv_design_details/pg_1/id_19866550/hlv_1?pid=2321

and!

http://images.cafepress.com/image/24243382.jpg

I thought only gay men hated pussies

http://www.cafepress.com/justshirts4u

David Alan Grier plays a slave in a scene designed to show Malone what might have happened if the United States had not fought the Civil War. As Patton explains to a dumbfounded Malone that the plantation they are visiting is his own, Grier thanks the documentarian for being such a humane owner. As they leave, another slave, played by Gary Coleman, finishes polishing a car and yells "Hey, Barack!" before tossing the sponge to someone off-camera.

a true conservative would argue that things would've been GREAT if the united states hadn't fought the civil war.

now vietnam, there was a necessary war

what was the last movie kelsey grammar was in that was successful at all?

X-Men 3, arguably

David Zucker believes we are in a "new McCarthy era."

and yet this short article describes two scenes where he attacks the ACLU. i guess the problem is we're not oppressing the right people. i've never gotten the conservative hatred of ACLU.

WHat do you mean, you don't get it? The ACLU defends known terrorists, coddles criminals by making sure they have representation in courts, and been a key part of the Liberal Gay Communist/Atheist War on Christmas for decades. They prevent good God-Fearing Americans from enacting biblical law, as the Founding Fathers intended when they founded this Christian nation.

It's all quite simple.

The weird victim-culture of the modern ulta-conservative never ceases to confound me. What the fuck is wrong with these idiots?

"It's like these guys take pride in being ignorant."

"Obama is not qualified to be president, and it'll be a disaster," says Zucker, who then pauses as if he's said something he should have kept to himself. "Shouldn't I be allowed to say that?"

I never get tired off hearing people moan about stuff at every opportunity about how they are not able to moan about stuff at every opportunity.

Isn't this just going to be Team America without the puppets?

Or the lols?

The weird victim-culture of the modern ulta-conservative never ceases to confound me. What the fuck is wrong with these idiots?

well, it works for them, doesn't it? hordes of donors, lots of gullible idiots voting republican because they're going to be victimized by gay marriage/hate crime laws/sufficient tire inflation, a media so completely broken to the right by constant bleating about liberal bias that they should just call themselves the ministry if information... baby cries, baby gets fed.

That's the thing. It's been like this for decades; check out the Paranoid Style of American Politics, which was written back in 1964. The Nation is a Body Politic always subject to corruption and invasion by dirty immigrants or immigrant ideas from the outside, or seditious thoughts from within.

These guys always perceive themselves as under attack. It's this weird sludge of paranoia, infantilization, projection, and a complete lack of self-awareness or any sense how pop culture actually work.

Bob Altemeyer wrote an entire book and posted it online for free about this kinda thing.

And yeah, as noted above, a lot of why they do this is that it does work. If you have a populace with plenty of people afraid of change(say, about 27 - 28% at any time), it's much easier to go to them begging for funds to go off and fight those nasty libruls who are weakening Civilization.

Also, always playing the victim gives you that moral standing. You're a righteous person being unfairly persecuted. One of the commentators at Slacktivist posted this about 3 years ago, and it deserves to be repeated:

The glamorization of "persecution" is a component -- and a vital one--of the culture "wars". It allows a participant to view himself (or herself) as a "soldier" carrying out God's work -- and losing.

This is the important part.

If you're losing your struggle, you get to break the rules, cheat, lie, do anything to win. Winners have to play fair, but if you can somehow twist things so you become oppressed, you are granted moral license to do, well, anything.

It's the glow of martyrship without the ickiness of actually being martyred.

And that feeling, that shock of indignation, that swell of righteous anger: it's addictive. It's a sure-fire hit on the crackpipe of certainty. It's why all fanatics sound the same -- their leaders all use the same tools.

Will go see this if Zucker changes the title to The Crackpipe of Certainty.

Maybe all those anti-woman, anti-gay jokes in Airplane were really anti-woman and anti-gay ...

you will never see Hollywood libs releasing a film with the equivalent dose of lefty vitriol (at least not since Bulworth).

jesus christ, who's the victim now?

Also, a fun catchphrase: "demanding special rights"

I don't remember Bulworth being traditionally lefty. I definitely don't remember it being any good.

rong rong

It was good, it wasn't perfect.

I remember the Suck.com write-up of Bulworth, where they have fun pointing out a scene in the movie where some violent thugs are reverted to smiling children by ice cream.

I remember the Suck.com write-up

I suddenly feel old.

Bulworth is ... interesting. Beatty rapping is not for the faint of heart.

bulworth is amazing.

I think the only positive thing I learned about Kelsey Grammar from this article is that he knows who Sayid Qutb is. (Unfortunately, as a whiny anti-war liberal, so do I, because I learned about him while doing some reading in my spare time at evil leftie hippie institution the University of California Santa Cruz)

...back in 1992 when Kelsey was probably to busy snortin the white gurl to know anything about Egyptian Jihad

i sort of forgot bulworth was ever a movie!

you were more into the play?

i can understand why dumb white fundies fall for this "muslims want to destroy everything you care about" shit but why the hell are secular jews so susceptible to it??

one of the smartest people I ever knew, and the guy who taught me poetic meter (i.e., a dude to whom I owe a whole fucking lot), plans to vote McCain, according to his daughter. U.S./Israel stuff is like heroin, once people get caught up in the rhetoric they lose their fucking minds on either side of the Q.

(I should say: plans to vote McCain because of a single issue i.e. Israel/Palestine)

Kelsey Grammer used to get into righty-lefty shoutfests w/ the Cheers cast during the first Gulf War, apparently.

So the Simpsons episode with Sideshow Bob and the Rush caricature was actually a documentary.

because this never gets old: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkLg6vv34Fs

FOUND IT: http://web.archive.org/web/20020202092206/http://www.suck.com/daily/1998/06/01/

Chris Bray wrote this, before heading off to be an infantryman.

Sounds like the film will have all the subtlety of a Jack Chick tract. I've no doubt it'll be commercially successful though, just like the documentary, "Expelled".

Expelled still made like $7M, turning a profit, didn't it?

it also conclusively turned the evolution/creationism debate to the side of creationism

Even so, did it make enough dough to continue to fund those idiots on their merry way?

Kelsey Grammer used to get into righty-lefty shoutfests w/ the Cheers cast during the first Gulf War, apparently.

-- Dr Morbius, Thursday, August 7, 2008 3:34 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i would love to see video of that. esp if they were all on set and in costume

there's a great Chhers episode late in the series where Frasier helps Woody win a seat on Boston City Council, as a jape to prove that any hollow vessel could succeed in politics if he spewed the correct empty rhetoric.

a jape to prove that any hollow vessel could succeed in politics if he spewed the correct empty rhetoric.

you are Kelsey Grammar and I claim my $5

The weird victim-culture of the modern ulta-conservative never ceases to confound me. What the fuck is wrong with these idiots?

-- Pashmina

actually i am niles. no $5 for you.

as a liberal I demand my handout

Also, and I say this while not entirely being convinced by it, Christian Fundamentalists aren't entirely wrong to be paranoid. If they view their struggle as stretching back to the founding of this country, it does seem (with the abolition of slavery, the Civil Rights movement, the Feminist movement, the ending of the Salem Witch Trials, etc) that their beliefs are on the wrong side of history. And even if they can maintain a hegemony now, if history is a guide, more and more of their crazy asshat beliefs will fall by the wayside. Within that context, Gay Marriage today could seem to lead to No Churches tomorrow. And if we're going to be very honest, many of us would like to abolish Christian fundamentalism, and we believe that history will ultimately wear away at many of their beliefs.

Kelsey Grammer used to get into righty-lefty shoutfests w/ the Cheers cast during the first Gulf War, apparently.

And with Johh Mahoney too apparently.

He's just a troublemaker all round.

history wears everything away Mordy, not just crackpot fundamentalism.

I'm not saying it's justified. I'm saying it's somewhat understandable.

how did Grammer uphold traditional values on the "Frasier" set with two decadent sodomites like Hyde-Pierce and Mahoney around?

maybe he's a log cabin republican

hey mahoney's just a lifelong bachelor

So anyway this film is coming out on the same day as Bill Maher's "Religulous." Double bill!

If Bill Maher advocating for atheism doesn't fill the churches, what will?

The redemption of Kevin Costner's drunken bum character in Swing Vote, btw, begins when he sees Bill Maher calling him a "dumbass" on TV.

haha you watched Swing Vote

for free, on assignment.

Curiously I really want to see this movie. If my brother weren't getting married this weekend...

bulworth was godawful

i don't think there are any good movies about politics, or at least, none of my favorite movies are 'politics' movies. politics isn't dramatic OR funny

i still wonder what happened to chris bray! dude was great

Contributors > Chris Bray - Reason Magazine

regular private eye over here

what about dr. strangelove

i don't think there are any good movies about politics,

The Manchurian Candidate, Advise & Consent, The Best Man...

(all JFK-era films. Hmmm....)

"Bob Roberts," not "Bulworth," is the correct lefty analogue here, and thus this thread is an appropriate place to observe that "Bob Roberts" is a terrible movie.

Gore Vidal's great, though.

never liked kubrick much

anyway, the point i'm reaching for is that drama ends, jokes have a punchline, etc, but politics just goes on forever.

xps

you can say that about anything though

I agree btw

If you think Bulworth is godawful, besides my condolences you should get a load of the John Cusack lib circlejerk vehicle War Inc.

I will bet you guys that "do you denounce films like 'Religulous'? will be asked in the debates"

and I will wonder what happened there with the quotemarks for about another five minutes

1. wtf is "religulous"?
2. assuming that is some kind of pro-atheist movie, that should be a pretty easy question to answer, if it is asked, which it won't be

oh it's some bill maher bullshit

MR. OBAMA DO YOU SUPPORT FILMS SUCH AS "KIT KITTRIDGE: AN AMERICAN GIRL"?

MR. MCCAIN DO YOU OR DO YOU NOT DENOUNCE "THE SISTERHOOD OF THE TRAVELING PANTS 2"?

not trying to be a dick, that just seems like a silly thing to say

if i think bulworth was godawful why would i want to watch some other godawful movie?

have there been any good movies about the iraq war?

well you must like some godawful movies judging by your immunity to Kub.

paths of glory is tremendous

god every movie thread ends up this way doesn't it

i don't think there are any good movies about politics, or at least, none of my favorite movies are 'politics' movies. politics isn't dramatic OR funny

-- goole, Thursday, August 7, 2008 5:55 PM

Surely should be a thread?

There are no good movies about politics?

I kinda liked Wag The Dog!

I was about 14 when I saw it, mind.

"infantile" qualities

I use the term "infantalized" or somesuch not so much b/c it's whiny-ass titty-baby behavior(which it still is), but more to the point where these folks don't have anything close to a developed self or a decent level of emotional intelligence or maturity, having be prevented from doing so.

Major lolz via Reason.com:

I'm holding a palm card that was just given out at the Heritage Foundation to promote the new David Zucker film An American Carol. If I fill out the card, I can take one of four pledges, such as "Yes, I will send the trailer to my contacts" and "Yes, I want to be AN AMERICAN CAROLER or THEATER CAPTAIN." It's an induction to a movement, as the slogan on the card makes clear: "Finally, a movie for us."

By "us," of course, the filmmakers and promoters mean conservatives. Executive producer Myrna Sokoloff has put together a "pro-soldier, support our troops, pro-America" comedy, which Stephen Hayes previews in the new Weekly Standard. In it, filmmaker Michael Malone (Kevin "brother of Chris" Farley) and his organization MoveAlong.org are trying to repeal the Fourth of July when three angels—the Angel of Death, George S. Patton, and George Washington—come to him and convince him to change his ways.

The crowd at Heritage got to see a trailer and a few minutes of clips 24 hours before either of them will be generally released. I'm a huge fan of the Zucker-Leslie Nielsen canon, and not much of a fan of Zucker's ads for Republicans. The footage we saw floated somewhere in the middle of those two projects, quality-wise. Fat-assed Malone travels to Cuba, pledges to destroy America, and takes advantage of the invisibility granted by ghost status by grabbing a protestor's boobs. Bill O'Reilly appears out of nowhere to slap him. "I just like doing that," he says. Terrorists led by everybody's favorite pockmarked tough guy Robert Davi bitch that they're low on suicide bombers ("All the good ones are gone!") and all answer to the name Mohammed. In a scene that Sokoloff described, but didn't bring, Patton and his soldiers storm a courthouse that's about to remove the Ten Commandments and start opening fire on the people trying to stop them. "You can't shoot these people!" Malone says. "They're not people!" says Patton. "They're the ACLU!" At this point we see that the ACLU members are unkillable George Romero zombies.

Details about the movie were kept secret, on purpose, until this month. In February, it was reported that Kelsey Grammar would be Scrooge in the new movie. He's actually playing the ghost of George Patton, and Jon Voight is playing George Washington. In a clip we saw, Washington takes Malone to St. Paul's Cathedral to lecture him on freedom of religion and "freedom of speech, which you abuse." Malone is grossed out by dust in the priest's box, so the doors open onto the smoldering ruins of the World Trade Center. "This is the dust of 3000 innocent human beings!" bellows Washington. Malone whimpers that he's just making movies. Washington won't have it. "Is that what you plan to say on Judgment Day?"

"That scene," said Sokoloff, "is hard to put in a comedy. But we had to do it."

The whole meeting had the tone of a FARC strategy session more than a fun publicity junket. This movie isn't just going to sell tickets (it'll open in 2000 theaters), it's going to liberate Hollywood's Republican untouchables and open the floodgates to more conservative films. "Last year you saw a bunch of anti-military movies like Redacted and In the Valley of Elah," Sokoloff said. "All of them had big stars, and, thank God, they bombed. America didn’t want to see that stuff on screen. We have to show up to a movie that has our values. If this succeeds, if could change everything."

Sokoloff did worry about the last political comedy to hit theaters, Swing Vote. "People just didn't want to see something about the election," she mused. Is it a bad sign that both of the fictional politicians in that film, Dennis Hopper and Kelsey Grammar, are back in this? Probably not, actually. Swing Vote tried to tell a sappy Capra story divorced from real-world politics. This movie grabs the culture war by both horns and starts riding and hollering.

lolz. the free market is biased towards Hollywood liberals.

Swing Vote tried to tell a sappy Capra story divorced from real-world politics. This movie grabs the culture war by both horns and starts riding and hollering.

They prefer their poliporn hardcore, then.

HOLY SHIT

There is now a trailer; buckle the fuck up

I'm speechless.

LOLOLOLOL = as pointed out in the comments thread at that link:

http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/3/8/15/f_Picture1m_4e71ce3.png

Also worth noting: The description of Zucker as the "master of movie satire" comes immediately after a joke cribbed from fucking ISHTAR (the guy says "Hey Muhammed!," and every Arab guy within earshot turns around).

That was easily the funniest part of the trailer in that it was the only thing in it that was funny.

Trailers are where you cram all your best jokes. If we can assume that's the case here, then.........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

Rosie O'Connell?

Loui5 Jagger (23:29:36): you know that "an american carol" thread
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I'm not a fan of his, necessarily, but I kind of wonder what David Alan Grier is doing in this monstrosity.

"Chocolate News". That's all you gotta know about David Alan Grier these days.

Loui5 Jagger (23:29:36): you know that "an american carol" thread
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Haw.

This movie grabs the culture war by both horns and starts riding and hollering.

Even though the culture-war bull is out of batteries.

Zucker's next movie: a Sarah Palin satire . . . but she's a Democrat!

The whole "throwin' a rag to Barack" thing just pisses me off more since A.) his white mother was from a free state, B.)his black father would not have come from Kenya to a slave-owning nation, and C.) Even if you wanted to go there and say Barack Sr gets captured, the U.S. didn't export their slaves from Kenya.

And is that plantation supposed to be in Flint, Michigan?

the whole right wing militarist defense of war-in-general by citing that the civil war "ended slavery" doesn't make sense to me at all - it's not like the north exerted force to invade their own slave-owning states to force them to end the practice

"sometimes wars are necessary! the civil war ended slavery!"

Based on where I'm from, I try to tread real slow into "The Civil War wasn't just about slavery..." arguments, but man. I shouldn't let a David Zucker trailer get me all riled up.

i'm not saying the civil war wasn't just about slavery, i'm saying that the premise that the civil war "ending slavery" justifies intervening with iraq or vietnam is retardo

No, I agree. How in the hell did the Michael Moore come about opposing the Civil War anyway?

And where does the Ben Hamper character fit into all of this.

(Slipping into my BttF fan fic here.)

dennis hopper noooooooo

Daddy wants to fuck up the discourse.

This sounds awful.

why have there been so many mentions of Flint lately?

I'm from there, and the place is an economic mess, among others things

isn't "economic mess" kind of polite? this the internet, mang

it's my hometown and the place is a dead city; what more needs to be said?

fun fact: the current asshole mayor had a major hand in a campaign to get my buddy voted off the city council

16 percent on Rotten Tomatoes.

Well duh. Of course the liberal film critic media panned it.

^^New York Post and Washington Times both panned it loooool

lolz. That's because they are secretly liberals pretending to be Conservatives to trick voterz. Rupert <3's Hillary Clinton!

Also: the National Review said was AMAZING.

to-date this film has lost $14 million

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5j5EWRC22Nx_phjXpenOArhNeOUew

fuck you dennis hopper

http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/commentary_tracks_of_the_damne_0

Kelsey Grammer (who played Patton) is a conservative, but still balked at having to say the line "Enjoy your privacy rights in hell!" until the writers softened it by having him note that privacy rights are great, except when they're "interfering with survival rights."

lol the comments, wow

Morbs, you should see this movie. You might like it more than Slumdog Millionaire.

John Rogers wrote a great bit about this movie and David Zucker, talking about what happens when you get Hollywood-types wanting to expend their personal capital to do particular projects.

best part:

when the movie was test-screened in Texas, audiences were perplexed. They found the scene where General Patton shoots zombie ACLU lawyers too mean—"Didn't they get that the lawyers were zombies?" Zucker wonders

lol, didn't Zucker realize most movies the audiences root for the zombies?

Oh man I remember some people I know dreaded this film thinking it was going to be a vote-swayer...

can you imagine

Describing Zucker's mindset throughout the shoot, Friedman says, "You kind of yelled a lot." Zucker: "Well, directing's tough." Friedman: "It is tough. And if you have to direct and you're a dick, it can be so much tougher."

i may have to purchase this for the commentary....