committed anti-feminists are among the creepiest people alive imo

what they need is some kind of online comic strip to endear themselves to haterz

http://www.angryharry.com/

http://desertlightjournal.homestead.com/movement.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCk0SNaAhJ8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjPJra71LwM

yeah, they're right up there with serial killers

yes they are right up there

http://www.youtube.com/user/ArgusEyes

XP VENN DIAGRAM

define creepy?

want some more fun? go find out about the 'Concerned Women of America.'

Personally I define "creepy" as "making me need to put a lot of distance between me and that thing because my automatic/instinctive response wd be to climb walls and claw through doors in order to escape current proximity". I try to pay attention when that happens.

yeah.. i think of creepy as in "creepy crawly" i.e. like spiders and stuff, they're scary cos you can't see them.

"angry harry" being loud going all guns blazing with some retarded website doesn't seem creepy to me, cos you can hear him coming like miles away

http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2008/08/why-the-falling.html

tyler cowen posts about the nuttiest bs essay about 'women' i've ever come across (and it's in the occidental quarterly, shocker), calls it evil, hilarious comments ensue

kind of reminds me of the guy who wrote an entire book about the possibility of sex and love with robots, who staunchly denied having any interest in having sex with a robot himself - there's a similar protestation that this is all just about justice, right and wrong - in a public sphere sense - when you just know it's all about some private thing these guys will never talk about or admit to, or even realize themselves, in a million years

What Devlin's trying to say, or should be saying, is that if a woman wants to win a commitment from a man, she needs to signal her faithful commitment to that man. Some of the traditional ways for women to do this were by lovingly cooking the most special food he eats, washing and sewing the most special clothes he wears, and similar. The results were sensual effects that touched most men deeply. Cooking and sewing have lost most of their practical value but none of their symbolic value, where the men are not alpha males (whose commitment in our society is difficult to win by any means) and have not been corrupted by feminism which, not coincidentally, goes far out of its way to disparage these signals of caring commitment.

Far more importantly, though, (and Devlin himself emphasizes this), women, if they want to enter happy marriages rather than enter ones full of miserable jealousy or remain single, must continually send strong signals of their commitment to be faithful. This is now practically impossible to do in the West. The vast majority of modern Western women are such thoroughgoing sluts, or have at least been so influenced in their behavior by their slutty friends to act as if they are, and so cheered on in this by the alpha-male-run mass media and by the legions of beta male dupes of same, that they cannot with any credibility send such signals. Women traditionally could be considered virtuous until proven otherwise, but today you're an idiot to not consider the Western woman a fickle slut unless proven otherwise.

Mate-guarding behavior and fidelity are another set of cultural norms that were once, when the West was monogamous and on the rise, rather than polygamous and in decline, considered the highest virtues, but that the alpha mass media has turned these too into the most despised of beta male traits. Once Christianity, like Islam, instituted the death penalty for female adultery, as well as a wide variety of other legal and informal norms to enforce monogamy and thus make most men see marriage as desirable. Men in the best Western societies made strong investments of time and money in caring for their children, because they were psychologically confident that these were indeed their own children, but this is no longer the case. The rise of the mass media in the West gradually swept these values away until the Hollywood century destroyed them. Now most "Christianity" is really just the claim to believe in Jesus while following the teachings of Hollywood. It bears far less resemblance to the two millenia of Christian teaching upholding monogamy than does modern Islam. Most "Christianity" today is effectively and quite ironically far more polygamous than Islam. It is to Islam or forms of Christianity that are now only historical that we must turn to if we seek a return to monogamy and the preservation of the civilization that monogamy made possible.

Or we can regress to polygamy and barbarity, but this time with lost boys wielding nuclear weapons. Your choice.

Posted by: truthseeker at Aug 4, 2008 5:42:07 PM

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your choice

kind of reminds me of the guy who wrote an entire book about the possibility of sex and love with robots, who staunchly denied having any interest in having sex with a robot himself

Yeah I read an interview w/this guy once & the same thing struck me. Arf.

As per thread title, yes, I agree. Creepy and boring too.

Houllebecq to thread

if only!

reminds of this hitler dot org site i found yesterday. really creepy so-called "objective facts" about nazism.

A professor I know in cog. neuroscience has met robotssex man at various conferences, and his basic comment was he "doth protest too much".

Why would you get worked up about someone like this?

Seriously, it's weak.

Dave Sim lololol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68l4XUeJYo0&feature=related

Music: The beatles, Pink floyd, Led zeppelin, King Crimson, Yes, Wishbone Ash, Iron Maiden, Beethoven, Deep purple, Dream Theater, Radiohead, Eagles, ELO, Genesis, Mansun, Paul Simon, Steely dan, Spock's Beard, ZZ top, Strawbs

Dude would fit in pretty well here.

That link led me to this Kids in the Hall-esque effort --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0KPYl7XVcQ

-- which had a couple lols in the second half.

Dude would fit in pretty well here.

How do we know he's not?

Bring it on!

Dude needs to get laid.

TL;DL

Dude would fit in pretty well here.

Based on music taste, dude would fit in pretty well most places.

Laurel is getting really good at being an internet hardman. :D

Only really works if you don't have to look up the acronym.

http://www.themansnononsenseguidetowomen.com/

this gentleman is on Bill O'Reilly's show fairly often

"Marc ... I am a huge fan of yours."

Erich "Mancow" Muller
Host, The Mancow Show
Syndicated via Talk Radio Network

http://thenononsenseman.com/page5.html http://smilies-gifs.com/burla-provocacion/21burla-provocacion.gif

end self-destructive chivalry

ahahahaha

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27762

What YOU Will Learn from
Under the Clitoral Hood

* That everything you've ever learned about women is wrong
* How to know in advance she’ll be safe for you, compatible with you, and have real orgasms—so you don’t waste your time
* The ins and outs of female genitalia—know how to please her!
* How to seduce her without physical contact, money, or alcohol
* Why she is more sexual than you, and why that saves you money
* That she'll take your money but won't respect you (LISTEN)
* Why she likes bad boys
* How to make her crave you and not cheat on you
* That YOU can be happy and she can be happy—at the same time!

somebody place a very powerful magnet next to this guy's nuts or something so he can't breed

What YOU learn
under Clitoral hood

* that all the you' ; The VE learned on the women is indeed
* as it is with l' advances false for you surely knows, in a way compatible with you and has of Orgasmen-so truths which do not waste you your time
* the characteristics of Mrs. Genitalien-wissen, as one likes it to him!
* Allured like it without physical contact, money or l' alcohol
* why it is more sexual than, you and why that stores you l' money
* this she' ; L won' takes however your money; t-Respekt it (HEARING it) * why it wants bad lots
* as it you and the defrauder cannot be aspired on you
* that YOU can be fortunately and them to be to be able, glücklich-year same time!

quelqu' one to place a very productive magnet close to this guy' ; or - slightly thus him can' s-Nüsse; t-Brut

straight eng-german-eng is funnier:

From which THEY learn
under the Clitoral hood

* that all you' VE at all one learned in advance it is wrong
*reliably for you knows, compatibly with you and has material Orgasmen so, you your time does not waste
* the characteristics of the Mrs. Genitalien-wissen over women is
* like, how one pleases her!
* As one entices it without physical contact, money or alcohol
* why her more sexual as if is, you and why you money stores
* this she' ll however won' takes your money; T-respect you (you HEAR)
* why bad boys likes it
* like one it you and cheat does not let himself be longed on you
* that IT happy and they can be to be to be able, happy on the same time!

someone set a very efficient magnet near this guy' S-Nüsse or - somewhat so it can' T-brood

does not let himself be longed on you

why are you doing that

Louis has discovered online translator humor, watch out world

neither of you ain't gettin' none of my T-respect

Rolling Louis Jagger Go To Bed Already Thread for 2008

basically i am in the self-loathing cycle of random internet aggression and event-horizon humor failure accrued through four days in the same pair of pyjamas spent on ILX

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needs the revised jiggle panda imo

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can we go ahead and just make this nsfw?

what the fuck why have you ruined jiggle panda

happy birthday

God, now I've been sucked into watching that prick on youtube talk about how white males are oppressed by women and minorities and I BLAME ALL OF YOU.

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this she' ; L won' takes however your money; t-Respekt it (HEARING it) * why it wants bad lots

ok what the fuck

this "feminist" craze has gone way too far, imo.

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2008/08/18/anti-feminist-lawyer-sues-columbia-over-womens-studies-courses/

amazing comments as per

oh lawd

http://roissy.wordpress.com/

Sites of Interest

Gene Expression
isteve
Life Extension Foundation
Parapundit
PostSecret
Stuff White People Like
The Daily Sarge
Things My Boyfriend Says
Treatise of Love
WordPress.com
WordPress.org
xkcd

kind of reminds me of the guy who wrote an entire book about the possibility of sex and love with robots, who staunchly denied having any interest in having sex with a robot himself - there's a similar protestation that this is all just about justice, right and wrong - in a public sphere sense - when you just know it's all about some private thing these guys will never talk about or admit to, or even realize themselves, in a million years

This book was a disappointment – I wanted him to embrace a new robot-fueled Libertine era, with robots, because he, author, wrote a book about sex with robots, because he wanted to have sex with robots.

Breaks my heart.

OH shit am I turning into Momus?

http://roissy.wordpress.com/2008/08/25/a-day-with-zeets/

A Day With Zeets

August 25, 2008 by roissy

Zeets on game:

Me: [while helping him set up a new TV I belch loudly] BEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLCCCCCHHHH.
Zeets: Was that a neg? [imitating me approaching some girls] Hi, I’m Roissy… BEEEELLLLCHHH… haha hey girls that was a neg! You like me now!

Zeets on long distance cockblocking:

Me: So there’s this girl who lives in another country who loves me. She told me a guy hit on her last night and she turned him down by telling him she had an internet lover.
Zeets: Wow, that guy must’ve felt like shit. Cockblocked from afar!
Me: Yeah, it’s one thing to get cockblocked by another guy in the bar, but to get cockblocked by an internet dude… humiliation!
Zeets: A girl who rejects someone by saying “No, I’m in love with a guy on the internet” is a lot worse than “I have a boyfriend.”
Me: It’s like saying “Your physical presence can’t even compete with an IM”.

Zeets on blogging:

Zeets: Everyone’s got their little blog now. Get up at 1 in the afternoon, trundle to the store to buy organic hipster meuslix, come back and blog about it. [makes exaggerated typing motion with his hands] Blog, blog, blog. Blogging piglets!

Zeets on the consumer culture:

Zeets: Help me carry out this TV. [we were leaving Best Buy with his new 1,000 inch LCD TV purchase]
Me: This is gaudy. You’re rolling out with the biggest package in the place.
Zeets: Notice how all eyes are turned towards me. The women are aroused by my display of materialism. [looks over at a middle-aged woman and winks] A big purchase will make you feel like a man and boost your testosterone major.

Zeets on herbs:

“I WANT TO CRUSH THEM ALL.”

”Are you fucking crazy? What makes you think you can pull this shit on a quality guy like myself?”

Ha ha, "quality guy".

the dude sure loves science fiction and fantasy novels that's for sure

Man, this roissy dude is really making my day.

Holy shit that was possibly some of the unfunniest twaddle I've ever read, and I read a lot of livejournals :|

alizee dick fencing has ruined me

I thought some of it was hilarious!

dudes like this are so transparently miserable

^^^is this an IOI?

Or just a neg?

i know nobody has the time or patience for this garbage but man i can't get enough. maybe people who are fixated by committed anti-feminists are the creepiest people alive. guilty as charged.

Thanks to Game and contraceptives, you can get the sex for free now without the imprisonment of marriage and potential financial and emotional ruin of divorce. The unsuitability of so many self-indulgent modern women for marriage doesn’t help the once-venerable institution’s cause either...

I can tell you right now about 90% of the women I’ve fucked in the past nine months (double digits) were, barring a character transplantation, completely unworthy as marriage material. That is higher than selection effect could reasonably account.

unbelievably creepy - the lack of empathic thinking is so fucked up

yeah nothing really hilarious about it except as chilling unintentional comedy

chilling unintentional comedy is one of my favorite things!

this sums it up pretty much:

XI. Be irrationally self-confident

No matter what your station in life, stride through the world without apology or excuse. It does not matter if objectively you are not the best man a woman can get; what matters is that you think and act like you are. Women have a dog’s instinct for uncovering weakness in men; don’t make it easy for them. Self-confidence, warranted or not, triggers submissive emotional responses in women. Irrational self-confidence will get you more pussy than rational defeatism.

warranted or not

a dog’s instinct

insecure? become a giant douchebag!

loving the idea that hating women is some kind of brave new thing and not like the single most ancient thing a dude can be into

haha

DC, tho... shit

seriously these late night shots douches are apparently all around me IRL but I only know about them from the internet anymore. I think I would fit in about as easily at a go-go club by the waterfront than wherever these amazing winners hang out

haha i was trying to say i hope tom or someone has spilled a drink on one of these dudes but i couldn't get it to sound funny

http://www.amazon.com/Men-Are-Better-Than-Women/dp/1416953817

i think most of these dopes want to be cary grant smooth but they're just whiners. my guess is a lot of them have such a fucked up view of life in general that they'll never be happy in relationships and most if not all will cheat like a motherfucker if they end up in a long term one.

i've probably mentioned this before but i know a couple of guys who "run game" and one is pretty bitter and unsuccessful and the other is someone absolutely no one likes except for a mutual friend we share.

I punched a 50-year-old man who was pulling this shit on me in the bar. In the stomach. Did not convey message correctly? HE KEPT IT UP.

I punched an old man.

Zeets on herbs:

“I WANT TO CRUSH THEM ALL.”

― stone cold all time hall of fame classics (internet person), Monday, November 24, 2008 4:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I'm with zeets. Crushing your herbs a bit before adding them to food brings out wonderful oils and aromas.

maybe he's just an esoteric fan

I can tell you right now about 90% of the women I’ve fucked in the past nine months (double digits) were, barring a character transplantation, completely unworthy as marriage material.

Haha does this guy honestly not realize how poorly this reflects on his own choices? Or on what kind of person he seems to attract??

curious thing with all these guys is their desire to put one over on the ladies/not take any "shit" from them because that would somehow be "emasculating" trumps their desire to get laid

one of the reasons i've given up even making eye contact with women on a night out is that i'm terrified of looking like one of these fellas.

thats ridiculous dude

The problem with the Game (as I understand it from reading the book and speaking to friends - including one who actually leads Game seminars) is that it's designed to snare women who would be attracted to someone using the Game.

And OTM about people using the Game being miserable. My friend who teaches the Game not only lacks any meaningful relationships, but he just seems so totally depressed whenever I talk to him.

And by friend - I mean my brother's old roommate who is now a casual acquaintance.

leads Game seminars

dr pepper all over keyboard

X^D

The problem with the Game (as I understand it from reading the book and speaking to friends - including one who actually leads Game seminars) is that it's designed to snare women who would be attracted to someone using the Game.

― Mordy, Monday, 24 November 2008 23:54 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Like, this is the thing, is it really such a great breakthrough in dating psychology that "insult insecure women and they'll be attracted to you"? Answer: no.

you should lead a seminar

I wish I could give amazing anecdotes about crazy friend who leads Game seminars. Actually... I do have a few.

Back in college, he used to tell these elaborate (obv. lies) stories about the women he's had sex with. And the joke we used to tell about him is that they all inevitably ended with two Asian chicks and a menstrual cycle. Like, he got a reputation (around an Orthodox Jewish undergraduate school) for just being totally insane. One time my brother talked about buying a cat for the apartment, and this the Game guy admitted that he'd probably end up fingering it.

I punched a 50-year-old man who was pulling this shit on me in the bar. In the stomach. Did not convey message correctly? HE KEPT IT UP.

I punched an old man.

― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, November 24, 2008 6:23 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

abbott you are my hero and when this savory pumpkin & potato deep dish pie we are baking is done you are welcome to stop by a have a piece, for free

Anyway, I ended up passing the Game book along to my brother (after the Neil Strauss article in the Voice tipped me off to it) as an object of amusement, and he passed it along to his roommate. And the guy made it his bible. There's another guy I know whose also a Game aficionado, but he's more of an innocent shlub who just wants help meeting girls. This first guy tho, he's like a total lunatic.

i think a lot of the attitude that sends a lot of guys into "running game" arises from mild challops like "men and women can never truly be friends because the dudes just want to sleep with them" and so on. if they embrace that notion, they start to embrace the idea that women aren't to be considered anything other than objects.

there isn't a single guy i know who has had success with women who has done it using spreadsheets and blogs.

Also, I think a lot of these guys are techie self-diagnosed aspergers types (with crazy facial hair) who are probably a little lacking in social skill to begin with. That, coupled with frustration over their virginity = embrace of a mechanical system that can help them get laid.

T|S People who use the Game, write about it, teach it / Journalists who write hagiography about Pick-Up Artists

i wrote about that stuff, on assignment (and looong after strauss lol) and the shit is just everywhere. it's big business too, yeah, seminars, the whole bit. i didn't get that tom cruise in magnolia was based on a thing until then, basically. underneath its about frequency and volume -- "if you're a lying asshole to every woman all the time, eventually it'll work on someone"

(xxpost) For them, it's like levelling up in an RPG or whatever, ie, something they can understand without too much effort.
But any model of the behaviour is not the same as the behaviour itself, there are discrepancies. And this Game model is waaaaaaaaaaaaay off.

Abbott what was he actually saying/doing to warrant punch in guts!

the dude i int'vwd was some kind of ringleader locally and i could tell he picked up that he was talking to a hostile audience, he was all "oh it's just about making interesting experiences, it can be used for whatever purpose, it's not about lying or taking advantage, it's about confidence"

...but then my editor found a webboard he was on and was all like "we are in a bitch war, bring tight game or get the fuck out my way" and shit

abbott you are my hero and when this savory pumpkin & potato deep dish pie we are baking is done you are welcome to stop by a have a piece, for free

― J0hn D., Monday, November 24, 2008 6:00 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what kind of game you running here j0hn

thanksgaming

Yeah, whatever. Nice comment, Abbott. I guess.

<waits for dividends>

thx John D., I always knew there was a net reward for punching old men.

Trayce he was trying to breathe on my neck (which since he was about a foot taller than me was not a really subtle maneuver), and asking if I'd been fucked lately, and that I needed a good fuck, blah blah blah crepey dude but it was the only karaoke bar in town.

haha in defense of regimented misogynists i don't think that guy was doing "game" so much

As a woman I don't think I am allowed to read "game" manual.

i was at this very busy, narrow bar in hollywood once and there was this dude who was always going to and from the bathroom and getting "stuck" in the crowd, but he was actually just stopping so he could put his nose to a girl's hair and smell it.

but it was the only karaoke bar in town

meme request

i think women should learn the game manual to hilariously beat it down when it occurs irl, though i think most women know when game is going on

^ protip

dammit xps

he was trying to breathe on my neck (which since he was about a foot taller than me was not a really subtle maneuver), and asking if I'd been fucked lately, and that I needed a good fuck, blah blah blah crepey dude but it was the only karaoke bar in town.

― Abbott of the Trapezoid Monks (Abbott), Monday, November 24, 2008 7:35 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

This made me lol a little. It was just the punchline.

ew ew ew Abb if he had done that to me I think I would have "accidentally" missed and punched him in the nads.

You should draw a comic of a creepy weird dude breathing down on you while you're trying to sing karaoke

I had just sang 'Big Time,' apparently a siren song to boners? I guess?

"big time"

Actually its a siren song to stuck up arrogant mofos who think they're hot shit, which makes yr story even more hilarious! :D

what kind of game you running here j0hn

it's a married-man game deej, when you join the club you get the manual

married man manual: you get married, you never have sex again! AYYY. stay single fellas. i'm out.

hey tom maybe with staffer/lobbyist turnover a lot of these people will disappear soon?

to be replaced by more of the same. Young fuckos from terrible families with way more money than sense seem like an archetype that doesn't really go away. supporting obama does not cancel out being a gropey freak whose uncle bought him his first hooker as a reward for passing the driver's test

scales from my eyes

Sadly, what time describes is the change I can believe in. ;_;

stupid gropey freaks, go travel to Namibia and leave the awesome cities alone

wtf how did I write "time" for "Tom"

According to the ECONOMIC HITMAN guy, the more academically successful in that pool are what the CIA looks to tap for shady business. They're already over-entitled and yet still resentful, and demonstrably willing to be selfish, lying, grasping bastards and demean others to get what they think they want. Perfect for destabilizing the economy of Venezuela!

would pay hard cash to watch 'roissy' et al try to run game somewhere in namibia

Now that's a Survivor episode I could get behind.

ew ew ew Abb if he had done that to me I think I would have "accidentally" missed and punched him in the nads.

...then you would have had the dubious privilege of being the first woman to touch his private parts...

http://www.voote.com/images/00013/Reg.1368.9.jpg

none of the former CIA field people I have ever met have reminded me even one little tiny bit of the Sack Lodge character, which is what these other dudes are.

but then again I only ever run into a certain subcategory of former CIA field people.

one of the reasons i've given up even making eye contact with women on a night out is that i'm terrified of looking like one of these fellas.

― stone cold all time hall of fame classics (internet person), Monday, November 24, 2008 3:52 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Obvs. an exaggeration but I totally feel this.

i don't.

by "eye contact" do you mean the "hard stare from across the bar" or "i will look you in the eyes while talking to you"

Ach well, I dunno any of these people, Tom, so you probably know best. It sounds a lot like why they tell that guy they targeted him, though, right down to the love/hate relationship with women and sexual insecurities.

i'm exaggerating, of course. what i mean is that i'm very reluctant to talk to girls in case they think i'm putting "moves" on them or whatever. it's like they're just trying to have a nice night out with their mates and along comes this chief to harrass them, even if that's not really the case. i'm just very shy in general. every girl i've dated previously has been someone i've met through uni/work/friends/whatever. i've never gotten a number or had a one night stand for a night out, so i have no idea how to do that in the first place, really.

xpost

"for a night out" = "on a night out"

go talk to her, chief. own it.

http://i7.ebayimg.com/07/c/000/77/40/a046_7.JPG

chiefed out

i think it's important to subvert the coward < > asshole continuum paradigm and i also like talking to girls and trying to get laid. the personal is political!

http://www.geekzone.co.nz/images/news/MasterChiefMadameTussauds.jpg

whenevs i try and talk to a girl i get totes chiefed out and feel ultra-stoops

every girl i've dated previously has been someone i've met through uni/work/friends/whatever. i've never gotten a number or had a one night stand for a night out, so i have no idea how to do that in the first place, really.

I get the sense this is most everyone, really. It's weird how this whole idea exists that it's some kind of grand thing to be able to consistently pick up strangers in bars, since that strikes me as a semi-rare skill whose most devout male practitioners are a little unpleasant or just drink too much. (No knock on anyone who can or does, but I expect the bulk of straight guys who make a thing of this aren't super-awesome.) I suppose it's the best available practice field and all, but any guy who's really lacking in the ability to make connections with women would be a million times better off learning to talk to them in classes or at people's birthday parties or any of the countless other places where most everyone else accomplishes these things.

Actually I would exempt "I had a polite conversation with a stranger in a bar, got her number, and we went out later" from that, for the most part, but it's still not the basic route, I don't think -- maybe that mileage varies in places where I've never lived.

I totally agree with that, I've been with quite many girls, and only once or twice it's been a case of meeting up a total stranger in a bar and going with her. I think when that happens, more often than not it's a case of both participants being very drunk and/or desperate rather than excelling at some weird game of hookup tactics. Of course there are a few individuals who get their kicks from picking up strangers and having sex with them, but it's not like you can find them at every bar.

I never thought of that but its a good point - I dont think anyone much, male or female, meets people this way often do they? My last bf admittedly I did meet at a club, but it was friend of friend intro and then we chatted heaps, so no pickup lines there. Everyone else I've dated has been a friend, workmate or erm... I met them online heh.

And in fact I bet I'm not alone having had more than a few intros via online means (be they forums, IRC, or deliberate online dating).

"Nobody does this and the ones who do are creeps and also I've never been any good at it."

Think, before stumbling upon this book my boyfriend's cum would be wasted on my stomach or my chest. But now with so many new recipes to try it would be plain wrong to have his load go to waste.

Before this discovery, it was I who prepared the meals. But now preparing dinner is something both of us can enjoy!

about half the girls i've dated were strangers i met at a bar. and i have no game whatsoever.

^me in my 20s

yeah really i think for a lot of people the whole goal of the game isn't to meet girls (because any schmuck can do that) but more to cement some kind of hateful male superiority over females.

i met a couple long term girlfs at bars. maybe if you're macking at a neon hook-up spot its skeezy but when its just talking to new girls you see at a local corner bar aint nothing wrong with that

last couple of girls i dated before i met my gf were coffee shop meets and i wasn't even trying. sometimes shit just goes right. this game stuff is more trouble than its worth, if your goal is to just meet someone that is.

about half the girls i've dated were strangers i met at a bar. and i have no game whatsoever.

^me in my 20s

^me in my 30s, much more than before that.

It's not about picking up anyone, chatting up people, being on the pull. But you get talking to people in bars, and quite quickly you know if you've got anything much to talk about, and then the stranger-ness plus a bit of drink does make it easier for you or them to say "Hey, you wanna come home with me?" and it's nice and no big deal. It's much harder to say that to anyone you meet in other circumstances - that feels like a more serious invitation. And half the time I end up going home with people I didn't even kiss in the bar yet, and I don't even know if it's gonna end up in sex, and sometimes it doesn't.

Anyway the main test of whether anything further is gonna develop is not the night itself but the morning after, and every single time I've gone home with a stranger it's been lovely in the morning, easy times, nice breakfast, neither one's got anything invested yet, but still...

So many times I've woken up with an acquaintance, a friend, a flatmate, a classmate and felt STRESS STRESS STRESS, but never with a stranger. Strangers are lovely.

What do you all think about the social acceptability and commonness of meeting people in bars vs. meeting people online? Both seem less common than random introduction through friends, family, coworkers, etc., but I wonder whether the internet is starting to be seen at the same level as bars.

Second, if you find yourself in a situation where the woman gives you hints of not being that into you, ie low interest level, then save yourself time and money and get out. No amount of flowers, mixed tapes or CDs with love songs, fancy dinners etc will fix that and “make” her like you. In fact these techniques do just the OPPOSITE.

Unlike what your mommy told you, this technique has no basis in logic. Most women want a challenge, they don’t want a nice guy pushover. Even though Oprah says that women want men to open up to them, women don’t want this. They would rather have a guy bend them over a table and fuck them in the ass than a nice guy getting them flowers. Sure women love flowers, and there are proper times to get them, just not how most men have been brainwashed into believing.

I will compare woman here to a young child, since today’s feminasties have basically regressed to this mental state.

Are you trying to lol me?

Smooth talkin' devil

mixed tapes or CDs with love songs

"feminasties" the new "feminazis"?

i like it

Unlike what your mommy told you

So. Now vee may perhaps to begin. Yes?

http://artofmanliness.com/vote-2008/

the dude who won (nice pic btw) is apptly deep into this:

http://www.quiverfull.com/

(this shit probly won't work)

http://g.christianbook.com/g/slideshow/5/585633/main/585633_1_ftc_dp.jpg

looks like it works just fine

&=@

4.5 out of 5 stars Reviewed by Kathleen Laird (Frankfort, IN), December 12, 2008

I did not read it yet because I got it for a Christmas present for my Daughter. I did look through it and it seems very nice. I know she will like it.

thanks mom!

hahaha somebody google kathleen laid's daughters email and show her that

Biblical womanhood is not a "white thing." When we get letters that claim this, we can only shake our heads. Scripture clearly teaches we are all of "one blood"--the only race is the human race (Acts 17:26). To say emulating the godly standards of Scripture is "white" is insulting to people of all colors. You are not a better Christian if you are white. To believe so is to deny our common heritage in Eden. LAF has black, hispanic, and Asian writers, but we don't screen people for skin color or keep a quota system. We're all sisters.

this thread can't die.

http://www.taylormarsh.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/ScreenHunter_04-Jun.-11-12.36-529x540.gif

cant wait to read an 'evenhanded' account

omg that saint sarah article! i have a story about it! i was getting new tires a couple months ago? and i was waiting at the tire shop and this old white man was reading that newsweek and looked up after a while and looked right at me and said, "there's an article in here you should read. it's terrifying." and i was sort of disconcerted and then i saw the cover and i was like oh no, because i figured he was a palin fan and was terrified by, like, the godless threat she faces or something. and there were other people in the waiting room (all white btw) and i felt all uncomfortable and i think they felt uncomfortable, too, because no one's politics were explicit. so i tried to say something noncommittal, like "oh really?" and then he went off on how sarah palin sees herself as a christian soldier and what is happening in this country and his wife was all nodding and agreeing and then everyone in the room kind of relaxed and shared our hating sarah palin stories and it was a nice buffalo moment.

aww! <3

that wouldn't happen where i live

i hear sarah palin jokes fairly often, and not from people who ever talk politics. she's just brought up as a punchline. and i notice because it's not at all in the context of having a conversation about politics, or trying to provoke one - it's simply assumed everyone knows she is not a serious person.

cross-ref with this thread for future referral: antimisandry.com -- designed to combat the feminist menace that promotes Homer Simpson

http://boycottamericanwomen.blogspot.com/

ugh i was hoping i could find a trailer for some documentary i saw somewhere abt the history of radical feminism but when i tried looking on youtube i just got all these creepy dudes and the girls who go "im not a feminist! i dont hate men!!!"

sometimes I ponder which radical 60s/early 70s cause failed most catastrophically - environmentalism or feminism

i don't foresee any oil slick-drenched bird from the delta running for president in 2012 so...

oof oh man just considering that made me hella depressed

oil slick-drenched bird from the delta

is this what the lamestream media is calling Palin now

them or a british dude with bad geography skills

The anti-war cause.

yeah, i can't believe the movement to end war failed

the metric system in the us

sometimes I ponder which radical 60s/early 70s cause failed most catastrophically - environmentalism or feminism

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

women are probs just a tad better off now than in the 50s, dontcha think?

preserving the environment is NAGL if every industrialised nation on earth is trying to grow GDP at least 3% a year, really.

new coke

"women are probs" just a tad better off now than in the 50s, dontcha think?

"probably", fyi

99 probs

i know!!! :p

sometimes I ponder which radical 60s/early 70s cause failed most catastrophically - environmentalism or feminism

― ex-heroin addict tricycle (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:18 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

A lot of issues raised by second wave feminism - such as sexual rights, body issues, gay and lesbian rights, social and informal discrimination, sexual harassment, etc - have become an accepted part of public discourse, and some of them have been coded into various legislations too, so I wouldn't say 60s/70s feminism "failed catastrophically".

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/f6ksi/was_i_right_in_calling_this_sexism_and_demanding/

that's some irl curb your enthusiasm shit

except for the "irl" bit

one of the worst forums on the internet: http://www.reddit.com/r/mensrights

Surprise! Another college 'rape' that never happened -- this time at Dartmouth (falserapesociety.blogspot.com)

surprise!!

Women paying more than men for health insurance? Discrimination. Men paying more for life and auto insurance? No problem. Feminists only want rights when it benefits Women, not equality. (huffingtonpost.com)

Surprise! Another college 'rape' that never happened -- this time at Dartmouth (falserapesociety.blogspot.com)

lol

oh damn beaten

ohhhh

did i miss a punchline somewhere?

xps

no its just that kind of "I WAS DISCRIMINATED AGAINST... FOR BEING A MAN" shit pops up allthe time on reddit and its always fake

well i figured there was a little more to the "ogling" segment of the story, but i thought you meant there was evidence that he was full-on trolling with the whole thing

http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/f6ksi/was_i_right_in_calling_this_sexism_and_demanding/

sounds horrible. don't know what to think. maybe the guy was perving, and maybe he wasn't. maybe he's accurately describing the confrontation, maybe he isn't. if he's telling the truth & and perceiving things more-or-less accurately, he was badly mistreated. if not, then who knows.

no sorry i am bringing my own beef with reddit into this thread w/ no context

BdotDS 4 points5 points6 points 47 minutes ago[-]

Here is the deal, from someone who works as security(bouncer) at a restaurant/bar. While you may absolutely be in the right(sounds like you were), you are still on private property, and must leave immediately when told to do so. I have to tell people all of the time, that, as soon as I tell them to leave, they are trespassing. I don't have to let them get their stuff. I don't have to let them close their tab first. When I tell them to leave, it's time to go. I'll get them their stuff once they are outside. It's that simple. That's why the cops showed up.

Now, as far as your situation goes, it's probably not worth the legal fees. I would recommend that you find new gym(if that doesn't go without saying), and probably file a report with the Better Business Bureau or something. That is why I hate large gyms. Too many women who think everyone is checking them out(even though they are wearing small shorts, with their tits popping out of their shirt), and douche bags with cut-off sleeves, wearing hats that match their shoes.

man that's the kicker isn't it

yeah i stay away from reddit -- there was that accusation that the ranking system had been gamed by a group of committed right-wingers or something, right?

that's some irl curb your enthusiasm shit

would totally happen to larry

that was digg xp

ah

i only spend time on reddit cuz they provide me with good local sex crime stories for gawker

gym story sounds fake imo, or at the very least altered to make the poster look good.

its fake! all these fuckin stories are fake. the whole dam internet is fake.

^ yeah, but how would you ever know? it's not like the situation he describes is impossible (though nothing similar has ever happened to me and i am a huge perv). stories like this are like rorschach blots: our judgement reveals more about our prejudices than the story's veracity. that said, i could totally see it being fake or skewed. no opinion either way...

its fake! all these fuckin stories are fake. the whole dam internet is fake.

neo moment

there are just a lot of dudes out there who are annoyed that they can't go back in time and rape and plunder so they try to continue this self-perpetrating myth where women are the actual sexists and hold the real power over these helplessly imprisoned raging dudes.

no YOU'RE the sexist

What a weird story, I can understand someone being thrown out of a public facility after being unfairly accused of sexual harassment - all someone has to do (sometimes) to get someone thrown out of a bar or gym is complain to management - but something about this elaborate story seems false.

I think it's the way the whole gym taunted the guy, this isn't normal crowd behavior. Usually when there is a public conflict, people act like they don't see or hear it and don't want to get involved at all (which says something far more depressing about humanity).

the thing about the gym story is why didnt he post the audio recording that he sent to himself - p. suspect w/o it

there are just a lot of dudes out there who are annoyed that they can't go back in time and rape and plunder so they try to continue this self-perpetrating myth where women are the actual sexists and hold the real power over these helplessly imprisoned raging dudes.

― omar little, Friday, January 21, 2011 2:35 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah & the reddit "mens rights" section is like ground zero for these assholes

i dont go to the gym very often but 20 minutes for a treadmill? join a new effing gym frankly

it's fake because an entire gym wouldn't get *that* aggro against a guy who was staring off into space in the general direction of women. total fiction.

xp eh nah that sounds plausible for the Y i go to at peak hours

quit hanging around for a treadmill and lift something, pussy

^^^

Yeah I would concur that his description of everyone piling on him is what makes this v v likely to be trolling/fake.

At this point some of the women were shouting at me and calling me names as well while one guy working one the weights across the room told them to shut it cause they didn't know what they were talking about.

my fave little bit

totally impossible

you think being a man is hard? try being middle class and white!

and educated! jeez dont get me started!

ur all those things u creep

u ARE the system, tear it all down

When I was a kid there was a huge phobia about adult men and underage girls, of course this is a terrible thing to accuse an adult man of, but it's nothing to build a giant indignant political cause about.

Also I remember the seventies when a man complaining about sexism against him was part of women's lib, he was a wimp for wanting to be "liberated".

wasn't sure where else to put this but we had a few expecting mothers who needed somewhere they could pump milk, since it's kind of an annoying thing to have to go sit on a toilet and do it. We have an empty floor in our other building so they set up a cubicle with a lockable door on it with a sign 'Women's Privacy Room, Please Knock.'

My coworker goes over to that floor and does a few laps walking on his break, and I've walked with him a few times and he seriously cannot walk past that sign without saying something about it, like 'wonder when they'll have a men's privacy room'.

Raaagh. Dude. If you asked for one, they'd probably set one up for you. Do you feel threatened by the sign on the door that says 'Staff Only' at a restaurant. I mean, are we talking general exclusion or is it just women. Drives me fucking batshit.

Sorry for derail, just had to rant.

lol what an asshat

lolol we call those "lactation rooms" at my office. Tell him when men start lactating, they can ask for one.

that's pretty on-point tbf, not a derail

10-1 that guy would complain if a woman was pumping or feeding out in view

tell him if he wants to put in for a "wank room", go for it

maggie gyllenhall should be incarcerated

Oh man nothing will make some parts of the internet explode like a good discussion about breastfeeding.

Or, I guess, the IRL, too.

she seems to really like it, sexually, which i find erotic

-- deeznuts, Wednesday, June 6, 2007 7:08 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Link

Abb otm. Years ago I remember reading the shitstorm that ensued on some msgbrd when someone casually mentioned that it's technically possible and happens (tho not v often, I gather) for a woman to orgasm due to stimulation/hormones while breastfeeding. The whackjobs posting around that discussion (on both sides) were pretty amazing.

That's disturbing, breastfeeding is natural and boring. I wouldn't even read an article about it if it had "controversies" attached to it!

Yeah agreed but silently watching these people get all riled up was pretty amusing tbh.

haha "natural and boring" should be the La Leche League's new slogan.

hahaha perfect

I mean, what controversy is there unless you're sitting on a train platform and not covered up or anything?

We've come a long way, I remember the old days when it was "dirty" to breastfeed.

it's still dirty, but god no longer cares

dude's judgement chops gone to shit lstely

maybe he's bored and wants to see what we'll do to each with him just going 'meh' to everything

to each other

I keep forgetting though, that on the internet we share "close quarters" with some religious weirdos who are just coming out of the woodwork to use internet for the first time and who probably do think it is dirty and weird.

I live in a big urban area where no one gives a rat's ass, though.

I grew up in a country town, people I was around were pretty blase about breastfeeding. Big deal it's nature, etc. Can't tell if it would be religious nutters, or maybe repressed WASPy shutins that would object the most?

it is the uptight and puritanical, some of them religious nutters, others WASPy shutins

DJP to thread

i assume rape apologism goes in this thread

http://dilbert.com/blog/entry/pegs_and_holes/

stoppe reading mid 4th paragraph; ugh. douchevibes.

The way society is organized at the moment, we have no choice but to blame men for bad behavior. If we allowed men to act like unrestrained horny animals, all hell would break loose. All I’m saying is that society has evolved to keep males in a state of continuous unfulfilled urges, more commonly known as unhappiness. No one planned it that way. Things just drifted in that direction.

pro-tip never listen to engineers talk about anything

I thought for sure this was a Jay Batman inspired revive

Long term, I think science will come up with a drug that keeps men chemically castrated for as long as they are on it. It sounds bad, but I suspect that if a man loses his urge for sex, he also doesn’t miss it. Men and women would also need a second drug that increases oxytocin levels in couples who want to bond. Copulation will become extinct. Men who want to reproduce will stop taking the castration drug for a week, fill a few jars with sperm for artificial insemination, and go back on the castration pill.

tweeting, raping, cheating, and being offensive

Consider Hugh Hefner. He had every benefit of being a single man, and yet he decided he needed to try marriage. Marriage didn’t work out, so he tried the single life again. That didn’t work out, so he planned to get married again, although reportedly the wedding just got called off. For Hef, being single didn’t work, and getting married didn’t work, at least not in the long run. Society didn’t offer him a round hole for his round peg. All it offered were unlimited square holes.

http://th4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/amirror/th_scratch-head.gif

Poor Hugh Hefner, dude has had it hard.

Society didn’t offer him a round hole for his round peg

Because nobody in the world ever who has poly/non-standard sexual leanings has EVER been succesful, and here's proof!

considering his recent internet hijinks it's sorta amazing that he managed to hide his batshit side so well over 20 years of the cartoon

like how did he not have some off day and accidentally do a dilbert men love rape joke

http://i.imgur.com/m69yq.gif

the idea that modern western "society is organized as a virtual prison for men’s natural desires," seems to be a hugely popular idea, at least on the internet. comes in lots of flavors too:

"Marriage is a prison constructed by useless women to entrap and defraud capable men." (hi, jay!)
"Feminized society wants to shame and eradicate all healthy male sex/rape urges." (hi, scott! and jay!)
"Western women have been ruined by feminism. You should really marry an Asian. They know how to please a man." (hi, michel!)

fake quotes, btw...

this shit is everywhere. baffles me a little, since i've known lots of dumbass guys over my life, but very few who've ever voiced these sorts of ideas. their popularity seems in large part to be a product of the internet. which perhaps suggests that a lot of guys have secretly felt this way for quite some time, but previously lacked a proper (anonymous) forum in which to vent their anxieties? or else the increasingly open sexual and economic playing field is bringing the crazy out, some combination of the two. in any event, it's weird as hell and freaks me out a little.

See also, the "men are being ripped off in the family court" movement, partic in australia ie guys who are on a trip about being forced to pay alimony/not have access to their kids because its all a huge feminazi conspiracy (and not at ALL because they were hitting their wife and kids, no)

See also, the "men are being ripped off in the family court" movement

oh god yes, them too. and guys who love to quote stories of grotesque violence and sexual abuse perpetrated by women in an attempt to "prove" that women are far more dangerous than men, and that the disproportionate incarceration rate for males therefore = massive conspiracy & oppression. don't know how common that is, really, but i once wound up arguing with a couple such guys on another board (regrets, i've had a few). would have chalked them up as random crazies, but they kept referring me to bogus info sites, suggesting that there are others out there with similar ideas.

I was doing laundry in the reasonably-priced laundromat and the owner was there; he's a right wing nutter and he had set the radio for some awful talk radio station, and on there Rush seemed to be saying stuff about Weiner and how women have completely drained all the masculinity out of politics or something...?

apparently anarcho-misogyny is a terrible idea whose time has come!

Tony Weiner: Feminized Playboy in the Chickified Political Universe

What did Weiner do? I'm not making excuses for it. Do not misunderstand me here. But these feminists, liberal women have feminized politics to such a degree that politicians, male politicians can't even be men, which may explain why politicians as a group are often caught in these sex scandals. Everybody says, 'What is it about politicians?' Anybody ever think it might be liberal women?

Of course, 10 000 people out of 6 billion seem like more on the internet if they get very vocal

Rush Limbaugh is about as visible as fringe gets in the USA; what I linked to was a transcript that was broadcast to millions of people

Everybody says, 'What is it about politicians?' Anybody ever think it might be liberal women?

um, no, because conservative/christian/antifeminist women are at least equally outraged by such behavior.

plus, i don't think anyone really believes that this sort of thing is extraordinarily prevalent among politicians. it's just that their private lives are more visible than most, their careers entirely depend on soliciting the respect and admiration of others, and the consequences for misbehavior are therefore dramatic.

Yah, as a comparison, movie stars get caught cheating just as often, but the moral high ground isn't in play at all so no one rly cares.

"anti-modernity" is scary. WTF does that have to do with men? Hey men, don't make a living!

good post about anders bering breivik's misogyny/anti-feminism

http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2011/07/global-echo-of-violent-misogyny.html

incl. reddit lols

One internet prankster conducted a little experiment that proved pretty clearly just how unexceptional this sort of rhetoric is in the manosphere, posting an assortment of misogynist quotes from Breivik's manifesto (all of them taken originally from Fjordman) to Reddit's Men's Rights forum – without identifying them as being from Breivik.

Despite – or perhaps because of – the blatant misogyny, the post initially received numerous upvotes and some positive comments ("Nice post man") from the regulars. Once it was revealed that the quotes had come from Breivik's manifesto, the downvotes and critical comments began to stack up. (I wrote about the incident here.)

Anti-anti-feminists are some of the funniest people alive, though.

http://pervocracy.blogspot.com/2011/04/imaginary-feminism-101.html

Anti-feminists are never actually talking to feminists, they're talking their internal Imaginary Feminists.

Manboobz (linked to from that post) is pretty great, though.

committed anti-feminists make the SPLC

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/misogyny-the-sites

Reddit: Mens Rights
A “subreddit” of the user-generated news site Reddit, this forum describes itself as a “place for people who feel that men are currently being disadvantaged by society.” While it presents itself as a home for men seeking equality, it is notable for the anger it shows toward any program designed to help women. It also trafficks in various conspiracy theories. “Kloo2yoo,” identified as a site moderator, writes that there is “undeniable proof” of an international feminist conspiracy involving the United Nations, the Obama Administration and others, aimed at demonizing men.

heh, yeah

where did you find the guy what set himself on fire, ass

i really wish your username wasn't ass

please address me as hungry

omfg at that markymark's blog, so many "gems":

No, I want to ask one, simple question: how does Miss Sandra Fluke have TIME for all the sex that'd require her to spend $1,000 a year on birth control? I have to wonder if this girl is a serious law student; I really, truly do.

These people have no idea how birth control works, do they?

You take it all the time so you don't get babby, or don't get ovarian issues if you are taking it for that.

where did you find the guy who set himself on fire, hungry

crimes against masculinity

loitering against masculinity vs not picking up your dog's poop against masculinity

Um, is this a satire?

I'm not going there, but.

its on the same site, thom.p...

http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/spring/a-war-on-women

All he had done, he said, was smack his 4-year-old daughter and bloody her mouth after she licked his hand as he was putting her to bed.

Stopped reading at that point.

(skimmed tho. Truly horrendous!)

ugh, yeah, awful.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-refuses-to-read-headline-beyond-words-4year,27379/

feminazi ass harpies

that leaped out at me too. throwing ass into the middle just makes it that much more juvenile and impossible to not laugh at. Might as well call them dicktards

Perhaps they truly don't know how babby is formed?

it happens when women steal your precious bodily fluids

honestly the creepiest people are the intersection of these creepy anti-feminists with the PUA scene

oblig xkcd: http://xkcd.com/1027/

lol at creepy-ass randall munroe pretending hes way better than pickup artists

i hate xkcd but that's pretty raw

lol xp

telling the alpha-fetishist crowd they are 'mediocre men' thru a woman stick figure is missing the point grandly

...now that i think about it

there's a gay dude that writes for some of these sides, i forget who he is tho

well he doesn't call himself gay obv, he's a 'masculinist' or something

'classical sexuality' or something, look these people are bonkers

isn't his stupid cartoon just a really long pick-up artist routine

http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/jealousy.png

cool comic you fucking psycho

lol

well he doesn't call himself gay obv, he's a 'masculinist' or something

haha these dudes are horrible. kid of lol, mostly sad.

pretty sure i linked to him on the right-wingery thread. man i should send my resume to the splc, you don't have to be a lawyer do you?

"i'm probably not as strong in the 'defending people in court' element, but i have the 'finding whacko shit on the internet' piece down cold"

haha working for the splc has always been one of my dream jobs.

http://www.splcenter.org/careers

Love finding unexpected randall munroe slaggings in non xkcd threads

Randall Munroe is like the ultimate "Nice Guy".

that onion thing did not make me laugh even a little

pua takedown in that xzzz comic reads like redirected self-loathing

this thread is bumming me out

it's the anti-feminist analysis thread, wtf were you hoping for, up with people?

a nice, energizing blast of moral outrage with a slow, lingering afterglow of (meaningless) commitment to "do something about it"

you're looking for the kony thread

tbf, Up With People's Anti-Feminist Analysis Halftime Spectacular was surprisingly engaging. Kind of put a damper on Super Bowl XX, though.

feminazi ass harpies was kind of funny

you're looking for the kony thread

oh, i found it...

oh god what

http://schedule.sxsw.com/2012/events/event_IAP9536

Charlie grew up a tomboy. By middle school she was surrounded by boys who were distracted by girls, but had no idea what to do with them.

Frustrated that the other girls couldn’t see how awesome her guy friends were, she took it upon herself to give the nice guys a chance. From hand drawn diagrams of female anatomy to kissing lessons behind the big tree after school, she turned a rag tag group of D&D geeks into a… well, if not exactly sexy, smooth players, at least slightly more confident teenage boys.

"nice guys"

some of the worst human beings i've ever met were D&D geeks.

depends on where they fall on the love/fear lifeline

some of the worst human beings i've ever met were D&D geeks.

speaking as an inveterate (though recovering) D&D geek, i reject this unfair stereotyping of a socially marginalized group that's already the object of way too much cheap mockery, and and and...

fuck it. mordy otm.

Voted 'Least Likely to Ever Get a Girlfriend' in highschool, Adam Lyons

what high school would do this

voted most likely to pepper his bio with clishes

cliches

what high school would do this

what dorkweed PUA writing his own bio wouldn't do this

^exactly

contenderizer otm, although my shitty small-town high school gave out similar "unofficial" awards after the real senior awards, until the practice was finally stopped by the new superindendent in 1997. But, up to that point, it was completely school sanctioned. Awards like "biggest loser", "least likely to succeed", "worst at sports", etc etc were handed out.

She spends her exceedingly rare spare time as a vinyl-loving music snob.

the PUA dude's wife that is

She spends her exceedingly rare spare time as a vinyl-loving music snob.

She spends her exceedingly rare spare time as a vinyl-loving music snob.

She spends her exceedingly rare spare time as a vinyl-loving music snob locked in the bathroom, crying.

i wonder what her record collection is like

Having read some of Amanda Marcotte's work online, I would guess Animal Collective.

This is the meanest thing I can say about anyone.

I don't think she's his wife.

They're definitely not married.

I hope the pro-PUA people get beat with sticks

oh duh, she just happens to also be named Amanda.

pandagon is slumming it

his wife is Amanda Torres apparently (now Lyons). Amanda Marcotte appears to be on the feminist team at the debate.
xpost

it is unknown whether Mrs. Lyons is a vinyl-loving music snob

srsly tho I like Amanda Marcotte. Pandagon is a good blog.

Some of her writing is okay, but I get tired of everything being "problematic" after a while.

I'm glad I don't spend enough time on the internet to have a strong opinion about randall munroe

u probably do tbh

dom was a hero to some

i think she is not a good writer and that she is smug and i don't like her

i never even really read amanda marcotte because i am a bad feminist blog-reader, but wasn't there a dustup a while back because she copied some brown feminist blogger and didn't attribute the post? because of this dustp that i may have imagined, i vaguely dislike her. she is probably more tolerable than anyone else on that ridic panel, though.

brown as in skin-color or brown as in the university?

lol

brown power btw

brown as in skin color but lol

i never even really read amanda marcotte because i am a bad feminist blog-reader, but wasn't there a dustup a while back because she copied some brown feminist blogger and didn't attribute the post? because of this dustp that i may have imagined, i vaguely dislike her. she is probably more tolerable than anyone else on that ridic panel, though.

That was on the heels of her publishing a book containing images like this one:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9f/Marcotte.jpg

If it's not clear, that's a white lady saving a white dude from a masked black jungle savage.

I remember her claiming she had no idea those graphics were going into her book, but yeah.

I don't know enough about publishing to know if that's credible. Seal Press was the publisher, I think.

She did apologize and say that the illustrations would not be included in future printings.

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/vqx2w/why_the_obamacare_decision_is_very_good_news_for/

flag board

http://www.esquire.com/features/thousand-words-on-culture/contempt-of-women-0912

oh noes

http://io9.com/5931899/is-reddit-going-to-replace-college-for-people-who-cant-afford-higher-education

What's interesting is that Reddit already has many characteristics of college social life, both good and bad. People go there to learn from each other and make friends; but there are also places on Reddit that are dangerous and rapey. Just like college life.

it's also widely trafficked by late high school/college kids

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Why-Britain-Hates-Men-Exposing/dp/0956821901/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1344874203&sr=8-1

o britain how could you, but don't worry men, swayne o'pie is here to save the day.

that cannot be a real name

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Feminism-Ugly-Truth-Mike-Buchanan/dp/0956641695/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_2/280-6512441-5567654

cool cover, cool guy

Pie Oh My ;_;

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_liff8qoT2C1qg1skso1_500.jpg

His honesty and integrity have made him a figure of hate and a target for the animosity of feminists; his motor home has already been attacked and seriously damaged three times by lesbian feminists (and signed by them).

that's an awfully big smile for someone getting his hand gnawed off by a horse

I hope his 'motor home' isn't in fact a horse

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/11/article-2060461-0EC4264500000578-690_224x352.jpg

"The name's O'Pie. Swayne O'Pie."

man I can't keep that display name

The book contains an appendix of quotations and ends with a sample chapter titled 'Would you like to have sex with my wife?'

Holy shit, that book's cover! This stuff always reminds me of The Screwfly Solution, though I've never actually read it.

There can be few people better qualified to critique the state of Feminism in modern-day Britain than Swayne O'Pie.

!! Screwfly Solution is awes

LOL "Swayne O'Pie"

Thought you guys were talking about the character from Clive Barker's Imajica.

http://www.clivebarker.info/pieohpah.JPG

I notice I never yet have contributed to this thread. Allow me to agree fully with the thread title's assertion - and now my work here is done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHslWTN1zsE

thread title otm. they are always filled with rage and butthurtness and (sort of ironically) are rarely true "alpha male" types that they seem to believe they would be if not for feminism holding them back.

sick tone on that lead

http://i.imgur.com/6FZ4PZ7.jpg

ugggggggggggggggh @ the male students who wear that shit in my school
less ugggggggggggh but still concerned when lesbian students wear it

good look, bros

jesus

it's funny because they're virgins

why do they all wear those stupid hats?

lmao

i keep reading the screen cap of that youtube as "Avoid Men"

I find myself wondering what political background/family/upbringing PUA/MRA people come from.

lol @ "the time has come to fuck your shit up"

xp ha yes i always feel like "so, tell me about your mother"

why do they all wear those stupid hats?

― data halls and oate (stevie), Tuesday, June 18, 2013 7:48 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a hidden link btw committed anti-feminist and old man hat bands?

lol @ "the time has come to fuck your shit up"

― temporarily embarassed millionaire (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, June 18, 2013 5:10 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

kind of lol but mostly horrifying violent misogyny

I mean, they seem to know so little about feminism that I can't imagine many of them were brought up by or around feminists. But they get angry about it in a way that suggests some kind of acquaintance.

Alternatively, the manhood that has been 'lost' or is what ... 'actually' their idealised fathers?

Daddy is a magic man with unlimited power --> person realises this isn't the case, your actual daddy was not this and you don't get to be this when you grow up --> person can't handle this so assumes that magic powerful man must still exist somewhere, just he's been imprisoned by feminists?

kind of lol but mostly horrifying violent misogyny

don't worry I find Kanye funny too

in a point-and-laugh way

my friend's first reaction to that image was, "is that cosplay?"

I mean, they seem to know so little about feminism that I can't imagine many of them were brought up by or around feminists. But they get angry about it in a way that suggests some kind of acquaintance.

maybe it's too much unreconstructed freudianism but it'll be damned if this sorta thing doesn't scream oedipal panic to me.

As ilx's most fervent anti feminist i'd be happy to guineau pig or answer questions

Really curious to see if any MRAs have commented on the Saatchi/Lawson pictures.

Ah, then, darragh, which tenets of feminism would you be objecting to?

Ah now here, i meant my oedipal complex, daddy and mommy issues, yknow the real nitty gritty stuff

lol what

Really curious to see if any MRAs have commented on the Saatchi/Lawson pictures.

― Theodora Celery, Tuesday, June 18, 2013 11:08 PM (37 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the BNP's Nick Griffin did, thought I guess he's more a WMRA.

I swear to god I saw about 5 brotypes last night at this outside bar I was at and they ALL had those ugly khaki shorts and shoes thing going on (no fedos tho), it was to the point me and my date commented on it.

Its the middle of winter here. Whats with that look?

Doesn't your winter begin in a few days? Middle before it's started this year.

started nearly 3 weeks ago iirc

yeah its already past solstice or near it, isnt it? And yeh what jim said.

oh wait, arent we the only country that starts winter calenderically, or something fuckity?

i wonder what MRAs do to prepare for the solstice

great setup, treeship.

i was hoping dmac or someone would come in and say something funny. that might still happen.

I kind of find them heartening, you know as useless antibodies of the patriarchy?

Lt. Gen. Susan Helms is a pioneering woman who finds her career stalled because of a war on men—a political campaign against sexual assault in the military that shows signs of becoming an effort to criminalize male sexuality.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324021104578549891063938034.html

treeship, are you worried about an effort to criminalize male sexuality?

nope. male sexuality is affirmed in almost every aspect of our contemporary culture.

making society a target rich environment

lol

SEMINARS

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140602/METRO/306020106/Men-s-rights-conference-Detroit-raises-security-concerns

what is wrong with the world

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/bbanWHx5AFQ/maxresdefault.jpg

Goddamn these fucks are really bubbling up to the surface a lot lately. It's their moment, in all its horror.

I used to think they didn't exist and were just a couple dozen people on redditors who were overrepresented in the comments sections of articles about feminist topics.

Women, always hysterical about something.

http://mancheeze.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/paul-photo-in-debate-w-charles-clymer.png

these guys are like a walking parody of ressentiment.

this is my fave bit:

“We’re not surprised there’s resistance,” Elam said. “We understand that a lot of our ideas are very new and take some time for people to comprehend. We expect backlash and resistance.

what a bunch of dicks penises sausages shitheads

Yeah that's why I thought they were a fringe group whose online presence belied dwindling numbers. They just seem so absolutely ridiculous.

xp to ryan

loving the idea that hating women is some kind of brave new thing and not like the single most ancient thing a dude can be into

― as a dude (goole), Monday, November 24, 2008 4:41 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha, no idea what that d/n was about :/

But it was somehow less ridiculous to think that women were exaggerating, just blowing it all out of proportion, I notice.

xxxp

im an inveterate optimist but i tend to think that if reactionary forces are reverting to this kind of calcified opposition then, while they are scary and potentially violent, that means the that status quo is very definitely threatened or evaporating right before them (or at least evolving into some other form that is not yet fully visible). they're circling the wagons.

xp i'd never think in those terms and didn't think sexism didn't exist, just that fedora-clad self-described "nice guys" seemed too cartoonish, too neat a caricature, to represent a sizable contingent but this too was a problematic assumption because I wasn't listening well to what ppl were saying and i apologize for having held it.

multiple xps but Frank TJ Mackey (Cruise's character in Magnolia) is based on this guy (check out his blog at seduction dot com) and imo the whole seduction/PUA community tends to feed into a lot of mra rhetoric too, with its simplistic understanding of women and positioning of them as things to be won rather than people to be engaged with.

Give 'em nine months and the MRA types will merge with the open-carry movement and most businesses will prevent them from coming in the door.

there are a shit ton of these folks all over youtube, as well. if you hate yourself a lot on a particular night, do a search for "misandry" on youtube and be treated to thousand of horrible 'video blogs'.

"you're one of those self-hating males!"

Open-carry of their manhood? xps

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook

:D

If these dudes were openly stomping around grasping their twanger in public as some sorta statement, then at least you'd be able to spot them from like 50m off and could steer a wide berth.

Or plow into them, I guess, depending on what you were driving.

Somehow I just ran across this twitter feed

https://twitter.com/SnuffPornRing?lang=en

I just don't get humanity really. This is what his feed consists of:

* stuff about hockey
* calling a music reviewer a "cuck" for not reviewing the Strokes EP
* replying to random women far away from his city (Ottawa) when they post about hockey, asking if they want to have a "makeout sesh"
* calling those women ugly and dumb bitches on the rare occasions they reply to say "um no" to his suggestion of a "makeout sesh"
* use of the hashtag #jewshyster, and the phrase "Eastern-Euro ashkenazi mutts" refers to Jill Stein and Bernie Sanders as "jew eurotrash assholes"
* calling somebody else a "slutty piece of anti-israel jew-hatting america-hating filth"
* much praise for trump

also he is a standup comic, bet he's great

i think about this thread a lot, in light of these people taking over the world

I keep hoping this is their last impotent gasp, that it'll all collapse before they do too much lasting damage, because they're generally sad, incompetent psychos/sociopaths.

But then again, they got this far.

it's true. when this thread first appeared i remember thinking 'wow, there are committed anti-feminists out there?' (as opposed to people who are just ignorant and misogynistic). but now it's a thing, it's a big movement. what i had originally assumed was the past-time of just a few butthurt weirdos with a bee in their bonnets is now part of mainstream discussion. and that's happened in just 8 years.