Do you know how to drive a car?

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I grew up in rural America, where it was taken for granted that everyone would learn to drive. Like friends all practicing driving on their parents' TRACTORS when they were 12. !!!

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OptionVotes
I have a license & can drive manual or automatic transmission cars72
I have a license & can drive an automatic transmission 37
I never learned how to drive 29
I kind of know how to drive, but I don't have a license 11


Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 18:42 (seventeen years ago)

I got a stick and want my automatic
Compatible created in the attic

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 18:42 (seventeen years ago)

I kind of know how to drive and I do have a license. I passed my test in 1990 but last drove in 1994. I kind of remember how.

ljubljana, Sunday, 24 August 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)

Inspired by this thread and the recent death of my shitty Caddy:

http://a448.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/122/l_17aecfca969f33dfe7f34ba02f72c79f.jpg

RIP big boy.

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 18:44 (seventeen years ago)

http://a967.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/86/l_aa0dbdb3b97f1f879a2a616022e39bb6.jpg

You had the body of a Caddy but the SOUL of a '91 Plymouth Sundance.

;_;

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 18:46 (seventeen years ago)

I am a VERY, VERY good driver, insofar as I am exacting in following traffic laws and a very 'defensive driver.' I pride myself on the ability to make turns, starts, stops, merges and lane changes in fast, busy traffic with a grace that will never wake up a sleeping passenger or even slightly worry one who is awake, even if I'm driving around with my left foot out the window (this is the best part of inner-city driving with an automatic). My parallel parking is elegant. I can do what I call my "patented 92-point turn" and safely escape even the most absurdly packed parking scenarios. I have a rule to let one person drive before me when waiting in line. This, I think, is a nice courtesy. Above all, I am patient and cautious, but still expedient at getting where I need to be (a little early – nothing makes me more anxious than being late).

Consequently I am terrified at being a passenger in many people's cars, as many people are schizoid and terrifying drivers. I have to keep my eyes closed the entire time I'm in her car, but even then, FEELING the car's evidence of her obvious mistakes makes my cringe. I can't even WATCH someone play Grand Theft Auto, it's that bad.

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 18:58 (seventeen years ago)

her = my mother-in-law, who will do things such as drive an ENTIRE CITY BLOCK in reverse on a public road. asdlfvoi'nasDbfduib vjdn *vomits*

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:00 (seventeen years ago)

if youre not terrifying your passengers your not doing your job as a host

deeznuts, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:02 (seventeen years ago)

Oh man I am NEVER getting into a car with you.

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:04 (seventeen years ago)

I'm a very good driver, but I'm moderately aggressive. You have to be a bit on yr toes in SF, 'cause you will lose if you are too courteous. Given that, I'm better at defensive driving than most folks: I scan traffic far ahead, pay particular attention to the distribution of brakelights, anticipate the actions of cars, bikes, and pedestrians, and so on.

libcrypt, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:10 (seventeen years ago)

Did you know that you can shake a tailgater who is talking on their cell phone (illegally, w/o handsfree in CA) by slowing down on the highway to a mere 40 mph?

libcrypt, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:13 (seventeen years ago)

Nobody gets a ticket for going 80 mph on a highway in CA, by the way.

libcrypt, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:14 (seventeen years ago)

i have not owned a car in years but i love driving and always have. when we went down to austin my one demand was i drive the van on the overnight shift. it was great, except for the stretch of highway in arkansas where the deer kept running across the highway. that was fucked up. otherwise it was fine. i love long distance road trips.

chicago kevin, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:15 (seventeen years ago)

I heard a COMPLETELY STUPID rule of thumb about how fast many mph you can drive over the speed limit. You divide the speed limit by five and that is the number of mph you can exceed the speed limit. For example, in a 35 mph zone, 35/5 = 7 so you can go 42 miles an hour. And get guaranteed a ticket.

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:16 (seventeen years ago)

There's no answer for "Um, I used to know, but I forgot..."

I learned to drive American style - automatic, stick, whatever. (I used to be ace at parallel parking and everything.) But having spent the past decade back where they drive on the other side of the road, I have completely forgotten.

They say it's like a bicycle, but I forgot how to ride one of those, too. :-(

I suppose I should learn how to drive UK stylee but honestly, I live in a city with decent public transport and rarely (i.e. once every five years or so) have any need to drive.

Masonic Boom, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:18 (seventeen years ago)

I don't have a license & can drive manual or automatic transmission cars

ice crӕm, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:20 (seventeen years ago)

i actually do some kind of mathematics in my head - 20 = 25, 30 = 35, 55 = 64, 65 = 74, 70 = 79

thats independent of the traffic in front of you obviously

deeznuts, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:20 (seventeen years ago)

prove it ice craem

deeznuts, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:20 (seventeen years ago)

20 = 25 is TICKET CITY. Anything under 40 is a SPEED TRAP, esp. in the 20s. At least in small towns, home of the surreal slow crawl & cops on every other street.

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:21 (seventeen years ago)

oh wait youre right 20 = 24 but thats only during school hours

30=34

do you kind of get the key to my math = rounding down

btw i have never gotten pulled over once despite regularly driving like an absolute maniac for several years

deeznuts, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:24 (seventeen years ago)

Small towns in general are speed traps. Gotta fill the coffers somehow, y'know?

libcrypt, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:26 (seventeen years ago)

so according to the math upthread it would be safe to drive 96 mph on rte 94 in western michigan? that doesn't sound right.

chicago kevin, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:26 (seventeen years ago)

xpost My dad is one of those driving-a-city-block-backwards types... On one particularly horridly icy winter day in high school when he drove me to school and, rather than wait in a massive morning gridlock of vehicles, drove his ridiculously oversized truck over a large median separating the main road from a residential side road. He probably sped and/or tailgated a lot of the rest of the way, ice be damned.

Massive truck = owns the road, apparently.

I learned to drive in the same icy death trap conditions, but haven't had to use my licence for nearly a year. Doesn't really have any use in London, but can't really complain. I don't mind public transit and I really like not spending money on insurance/gas/repairs/etc.

salsa shark, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:27 (seventeen years ago)

Instead of doing a numerical calculation, the right way to "speed" is to go a wee bit slower than the fastest cars, and never be at the front of the pack.

libcrypt, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:28 (seventeen years ago)

DEEZNUTS YOUR HUBRIS WILL BE YOUR DOWNFALL

And you might kill a kid!

I live in a 25 mph zone in a neighborhood FULL of kids. Small houses packed with too many kids. A little park that always has at least 8-20 kids in it. Kids from the local dojo running around the block for warm-ups. 25 mph zone and people ZOOM through in their souped-up cars. I stop a car at least once a week and give them a tactful but bold speech about how they might kill a kid.

Don't kill a kid!

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:29 (seventeen years ago)

i never look at the speedometer, i drive by sound, feel, and generally just keeping pace with surrounding traffic.

chicago kevin, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:30 (seventeen years ago)

I stop a car at least once a week and give them a tactful but bold speech about how they might kill a kid.

Wait, wut? Can you have yr hubby film you doing this, please????

libcrypt, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:31 (seventeen years ago)

i actually regularly scan the sidewalks etc for kids & brake whenever any are around! same with dogs & cats! i am a model driver imo, as we all are iom xps

deeznuts, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:31 (seventeen years ago)

xp

bahahaha no, we don't have a camera

I have one for "Always stop at Stop Signs," "This is a One-Way Street and You are Going the Wrong Way," and the classic "Don't Kill a Kid."

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:32 (seventeen years ago)

chikev & lib - in the COUNTRY a lot of times there is no surrounding traffic

deeznuts, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:32 (seventeen years ago)

I am always tempted to invent a new one for "Mom, Quit Treating Your Kid Like a Piece of Shit" to deliver across the street from my front yard to moms in the park, but that would just be impolite.

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:33 (seventeen years ago)

i walked past a school bus yesterday in logan square that had a sign on the back that read "STOP for children crossing the road" but someone crossed out the "for children crossing the road" part and wrote (in what looked like a 10 year old's penmanship) "killing little kids".

xpost- deeznuts, thats when i drive by sound and feel.

chicago kevin, Sunday, 24 August 2008 19:34 (seventeen years ago)

I've never learned how to drive, never had any need for that. I've lived in Helsinki my whole life, and the public transportation here is pretty good, so I have no need for a car. For environmental reasons alone I've decided not to get on unless I absolutely need it. Also, I think I'd be terrible driver and would probably hurt someone, because spatial co-ordination really isn't my strong side. I keep bumping into objects even when I'm walking.

Tuomas, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

Hahaha, yeah, I fell on a fucking YUCCA just WALKING the other day, and I've been in hell of bike collisions ("I can't stop before traffic, better just drive into this building!" But I'm a great DRIVER. ???

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:09 (seventeen years ago)

I can drive pretty much anything that has a motor and some sort of transmission. Adding everything up over the years, I'm confident that I've driven about 700,000 miles total.

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:11 (seventeen years ago)

when I want to run away
I drive off in my car
but whichever way I go
I come back to the place you are

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:16 (seventeen years ago)

700,000 miles of that!

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:16 (seventeen years ago)

20 = 25 is TICKET CITY. Anything under 40 is a SPEED TRAP, esp. in the 20s. At least in small towns, home of the surreal slow crawl & cops on every other street.

-- Abbott, Sunday, August 24, 2008 7:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link


you have clearly led a very different life than me. I routinely drive 10 over, am always one of the slower drivers on the road, and have never been pulled over or ticketed. where are these mythical cops who will ticket people who aren't going at least 15 over the speed limit?

bernard snowy, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:32 (seventeen years ago)

are you speaking in kmph or mph??

deeznuts, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:33 (seventeen years ago)

if you go 40 in a 30 in a residential area you are risking suicide by cop

deeznuts, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:35 (seventeen years ago)

xpost: mph, sorry

(also, obligatory "yes I am extremely attentive and careful at all times, especially when in residential neighborhoods, and on at least one occasion slowed down to avoid hitting a raccoon that my passenger couldn't even see until we were about ten feet away from it")

bernard snowy, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:35 (seventeen years ago)

I don't think I've ever seen a 30 mph speed limit in my life. I'd probably go 35 in it, I suppose.

bernard snowy, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:37 (seventeen years ago)

also I have recently begun to suspect that my speedometer might be slightly off, so take everything I say with a grain of salt.

bernard snowy, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:38 (seventeen years ago)

im not saying yr a bad dude im just saying, abbott et al are otm about small town cops drilling anyone who speeds at 10mph+ over the limit

xps wtf?? 30 mph is common in towns

deeznuts, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:38 (seventeen years ago)

where are these mythical cops who will ticket people who aren't going at least 15 over the speed limit?

Idaho, New Mexico (the only places I've ever lived). Esp. this town, where I usually just let my car idle:

http://gpod.qwestoffice.net/images/hq_shelley.jpg

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:39 (seventeen years ago)

Home of the PSYCHEDELIC LAUDROMAT:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3213/2361919119_782ac84bc7.jpg?v=0

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:40 (seventeen years ago)

Trying to think if my twenty-years-back lessons would help me now any, and the answer is 'probably not'

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:43 (seventeen years ago)

I am always tempted to invent a new one for "Mom, Quit Treating Your Kid Like a Piece of Shit" to deliver across the street from my front yard to moms in the park, but that would just be impolite.

^^^ Perfectly demonstrates how Abbott is all id and superego, no ego.

libcrypt, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:48 (seventeen years ago)

have only driven stick (as primary vehicle) since i was 14

gbx, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:57 (seventeen years ago)

I had a dream years ago wherein I was playing Pong with Ally the alligator from "Pogo" comics, and he said the exact same thing!

xp to libcrypt

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 20:58 (seventeen years ago)

i'm so scared of driving, and in awe of anyone who can do it well

Surmounter, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:20 (seventeen years ago)

driving in oz was a little stressful -- driving on the left was one thing, but being on the other side of the car was maybe weirder. it felt very wrong to be so close to the right side of the lane while driving.

mookieproof, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:28 (seventeen years ago)

I learned to drive on a saab as old as myself with the ignition key on the floor, next to the stickshift.

I don't like driving, though, and try to avoid doing so whenever I can.

Oilyrags, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:31 (seventeen years ago)

I enjoy driving, but am constantly mystified by the incompetence and dangerous behavior of others on the road. People just don't take this shit seriously enough.

Super Cub, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:36 (seventeen years ago)

^^^OTMFM

Kerm, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:40 (seventeen years ago)

I can only drive manual, never been in an automatic as far as I know. Lol europe, I suppose?

StanM, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:56 (seventeen years ago)

you could probably manage it

mookieproof, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:56 (seventeen years ago)

i feel that manual gives you more of a feeling of being in control of what the car is doing. i am a good driver, but i don't drive now. like abbott, i usually freak when in a car someone else is driving (with the exception of cabs). it makes me so nervous.

tehresa, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:00 (seventeen years ago)

I was just driving in France where they seem to be rather lax in posting speed limit signs. So my technique for figuring out the limit was to wait till I was getting tailgated then slowly speed up... "70k not fast enough for you huh, how about 80? Still on my tail eh, then let's try 90... that's seems more your style, how about 100? Hah, lost you now!"

That was in non-urban areas tho, speeding in urban areas is indeed bad and wrong 'cause of killing kids.

ledge, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:53 (seventeen years ago)

And then I got stopped in a completely random but routine roadside check, which would have been fine except I was driving barefoot which I know is ok in the UK but I don't know about France, so I looked super suspicious and guilty. And then when they said ok you can go now, I had to back out, but I put it into 1st instead of reverse and nearly drove into the car stopped in front of me.

ledge, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:57 (seventeen years ago)

where are these mythical cops who will ticket people who aren't going at least 15 over the speed limit?

Lingle, Wyoming; Linndale, Ohio; Richmond, Kentucky

kate78, Sunday, 24 August 2008 23:11 (seventeen years ago)

You drive barefoot? Don't your feet hurt on the pedals?

I drive a manual car regularly and have done for 18 years. My one attempt at an automatic was so laughable I don't think I ever want to do it again, I was bunny-hopping my brother's car down the road until he had to beg me to stop because he was laughing so much.

I have terrible spatial awareness when walking, and am regularly covered in bumps and bruises from colliding with doorframes, bits of furniture etc, however put me behind the wheel of a car and I'm just dandy with it. Once had a round of applause off a bunch of pissed lads due to my excellent parallel parking skills, honed by owning a mini in a densely populated part of town with parking spaces at a premium - got very adept at manoeuvring into spaces approx 6 inches longer than my car (slight exaggeration, but not much).

ailsa, Sunday, 24 August 2008 23:24 (seventeen years ago)

what's wrong with driving barefoot??

wilter, Sunday, 24 August 2008 23:26 (seventeen years ago)

i find driving in thongs/flipflops dangerous tho

wilter, Sunday, 24 August 2008 23:26 (seventeen years ago)

A quick google finds one site that says you don't have as much braking force with bare feet. And I can see that foot placement might be more of an issue, in that if you accidentally just get the edge or tip of your foot on a pedal it might be harder to press it. But it feels ok, doesn't hurt at all.

ledge, Sunday, 24 August 2008 23:33 (seventeen years ago)

I remember reading that Natalie Merchant never learned to drive a car.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 24 August 2008 23:34 (seventeen years ago)

xpost i had even thought that driving barefoot might be unsafe, I do it all the time

wilter, Sunday, 24 August 2008 23:35 (seventeen years ago)

If you get in a bad front-end collision, no shoes means the flesh of your feet is their first line of defense. And the flesh is willing – to get torn to shreds!

Abbott, Sunday, 24 August 2008 23:40 (seventeen years ago)

;[

wilter, Sunday, 24 August 2008 23:42 (seventeen years ago)

I've reversed out of my driveway barefoot, and it was the placing of feet on accelerator/clutch/brake that felt weird. I just get the feeling I'd miss the pedals or end up not hitting them properly, like just catching them with my toes and therefore not being able to brake effectively and breaking my toes into the bargain. Shoes are harder and shield my weakling feet from damage.

ailsa, Sunday, 24 August 2008 23:55 (seventeen years ago)

I drive barefoot sometimes. supposedly, the added sensitivity can actually help you to be more precise with your acceleration and braking... but maybe it helps to have size-14 feet.

also, I forgot to mention that I have always been, and most likely always will be, a completely terrible parker. sometimes I get out of my car after what feels like hours of careful backing out and readjusting, only to see that I'm still sprawled obnoxiously across the parking space, and I just want to cry.

bernard snowy, Monday, 25 August 2008 00:13 (seventeen years ago)

If there was an Olympics for parallel parking, I'd win gold every time.

kate78, Monday, 25 August 2008 00:22 (seventeen years ago)

I learned for something like a week on my L's when I was about 17 - hated it so unutterably I cannot express it in words - and have thus never had my licence or driven a car properly, in the city in particular.

Melbourne is somewhere you can easily live without a car as long as you're within zone 1 public transport, so it's never been a real bother. Walking the groceries home etc is good exercise and I can be smug about never paying a dime for petrol/insurance/repairs/etc.

Trayce, Monday, 25 August 2008 00:30 (seventeen years ago)

xp i lack confidence with the parallel parkings.

also i'm not a formula 1 driver so i can get away with losing some precision w/ accelerating and braking caused by lack of shoes.

wilter, Monday, 25 August 2008 00:31 (seventeen years ago)

i just nearly got killed by a carload of mad looking old ladies with perms and glasses. i was going through a roundabout and they came straight at me from the left, accelerating towards me, it was very close. i quite liked the look of them, they seemed robust and determined. i bet they would have acted frail and regretful in court though, they were not to be trusted.

estela, Monday, 25 August 2008 02:17 (seventeen years ago)

they were probably listening to 'roundabout' by yes!

deeznuts, Monday, 25 August 2008 02:18 (seventeen years ago)

'the tra-la days are over' by neil sedaka seems more likely.

estela, Monday, 25 August 2008 02:21 (seventeen years ago)

I drove Adelaide-Sydney about a month ago and lived. Judge that for yourselves.

King Boy Pato, Monday, 25 August 2008 09:26 (seventeen years ago)

also i'm not a formula 1 driver so i can get away with losing some precision w/ accelerating and braking caused by lack of shoes.

I'll try not to brake in front of you in case your imprecise braking means you crash into the back of me, then.

ailsa, Monday, 25 August 2008 09:42 (seventeen years ago)

I never learned to drive, I kinda can't now because everyone I know will call me a hypocrite. I'd rather ride on the bus than lose my integrity.

jel --, Monday, 25 August 2008 11:39 (seventeen years ago)

given the number of total munters who drive, how hard can it be?

The Real Dirty Vicar, Monday, 25 August 2008 11:41 (seventeen years ago)

I also grew up in this rural America Abbot speaks of.

I kind of know how to drive, do not have my license. I am 27.

RabiesAngentleman, Monday, 25 August 2008 11:54 (seventeen years ago)

I got a stick and want my automatic

Like a few other people on this thread, I don do much driving anymore, but I gotta say, this is the opposite of my experience. Once I got cozy with a manual transmission, driving an automatic felt like putting on a football helmet to drive or something. No, not that... really the best metaphor I can think of isn't mine, so with all respect to Neil Stephenson, the difference between manual and automatic is the difference between command line and gui. It's not necessarily that an automatic transmission gets it all wrong or anything, it's just, once you know how to use a stick, it's like... why? Why on earth do you insist on on dragging and dropping, when there's a single simple line of typing that will do what you want to do much more exactly?

kenan, Monday, 25 August 2008 12:33 (seventeen years ago)

Not that I know a lick of what you just said there, but I think I follow somehow.

RabiesAngentleman, Monday, 25 August 2008 12:35 (seventeen years ago)

It's one level better of control. One level closer to the transmission. At least one level.

kenan, Monday, 25 August 2008 12:38 (seventeen years ago)

That said, I was always a shit driver, because I'm Captain ADD. One one the many reasons stopped doing it.

kenan, Monday, 25 August 2008 12:46 (seventeen years ago)

one OF the many etc

kenan, Monday, 25 August 2008 12:46 (seventeen years ago)

I enjoy driving, but am constantly mystified by the incompetence and dangerous behavior of others on the road. People just don't take this shit seriously enough.

OTM x 10. Except -- from a purely American POV -- I don't know that it's that they don't take it seriously, it's more that if someone's awful at driving, even if they know it, there's no way to say, "Ok, yeah, I'm gonna give up driving for a while. Maybe have another lesson." That's like publicly admitting you have a tiny little dick and your wife is angry about it. In America, we drive cars, motherfucker, it's what we do. We let 15-year-olds behind the wheel of SUVs. There's less shame in veering off the road and killing a child than there is in riding the bus. We have television ads the are filled with incontestable truth like, "It's not just a car, it's your freedom." There's an ad on in America now for a car insurance company that wants to cut a deal to bad drivers, and there's this dude going around to all the different companies saying "I had three accidents," and all the other insurance companies are giving him the hairy eyeball, except for this one oasis of understanding. I'm watching this and thinking, "Get off the road, you moron! The insurance companies are right about you!" But that's just the score around the vast majority of America. You either drive or you... get your mom to drive you, I guess. There's really no option, most of the time. So all these idiots on the road? Well, What would you have them do? Be less idiotic? That's always the dream, innit?

kenan, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:13 (seventeen years ago)

non-driver, grew up in New Jersey. BEAT THAT!

Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:15 (seventeen years ago)

I didn't realize this thread was a competition.

I drove ~417 miles yesterday, stick shift. My mileage worked out to just over 37mpg, not bad for a 13 year old rig.

dan m, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:19 (seventeen years ago)

dude, that's straight-up great, even for highway

kenan, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:20 (seventeen years ago)

I drive both automatic (parents car) and stick (mine) and like both. The stick one is more fun in the mountains, small winding roads where you have to switch gears all the time, but for long trips, I'd rather drive an automatic, especially on highways. In my parents car, I go up to 130km/h, put on the speed regulator, rest my feet, let the car do the job and listen to music or whatever (while obviously paying attention to the road yadda yadda yadda).

Also, I just love long trips at night, alone in the car or with a car full of sleeping passengers, listening to music.

Jibe, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:22 (seventeen years ago)

I have had a driver's license for 23 years now, and I am the best driver I know. Seriously. For example, I have not been ticketed for a moving violation in 14 years. I have had an accident in 22 years; my wife has been in four in the last 7 years. I am not a fuddy-duddy, or one of those 53mph-in-the-left-lane dudes. I did my time in the DC Metro area and drive w/just enough combination of aggressiveness and defensiveness. I almost literally cannot stand being in a car that I am not driving. I just don't trust anyone else.

kate78 OTM about Linndale, OH. See also Perry, OH. My high school was on Manchester Road, a 25mph street, and it was Speed Trap City. You would get ticketed at 26, and if the school lights were flashing, you'd get ticketed at 21.

Pancakes Hackman, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:28 (seventeen years ago)

I am now in my third city where driving is not particularly important or encouraged. Which is good, because I don't think I'd be a terribly good driver.

Casuistry, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:31 (seventeen years ago)

non-driver, grew up in New Jersey. BEAT THAT!

grew up in the sticks where there's zero (ZERO) public transportation and you have to drive thirty miles if you want to see a movie (60 for a good one) or just about anything else you want that isn't beer or groceries and the only thing to do is drive the strip. These days I live in a town that may as well not have a bus system (because it is totally useless and is actually almost quicker to walk) and I bike/walk six miles to and from work every day.

does that beat it?

RabiesAngentleman, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:32 (seventeen years ago)

bwa, probly

Dr Morbius, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:35 (seventeen years ago)

Nobody gets a ticket for going 80 mph on a highway in CA, by the way.

Minimum requirement for driving on the high way here is 70 km/hour here. If below that speed, you are fined.

Abbott, I know how to drive a car but I do not have my license yet. I am currently trying to "master" it though. :-) I know how to drive forward, not yet backwards. hah.

Here it's kinda expected you learn to drive manual. Automatic is still uncommon but nowadays most new "big" cars are automatic. But most people I know, save one or two, have a license for a manual. Even though I'm still crap at it, I can understand why pple (here anyway) prefer automatic.

stevienixed, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:37 (seventeen years ago)

i wish i could drive and had a car, but i'm just lazy i guess

blueski, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:38 (seventeen years ago)

given the number of total munters who drive, how hard can it be?

Every single friend has been telling me that. I retort: so what does it mean when I will fail? One friend said:"That you're a bigger idiot." :-(

My dad more or less forced me when I was 18 but I was too stubborn and insecure so I quit. Now with two kids and a husband with a visual handicap I realize that it's a necessity. Yes, I could go without it but it makes life damn hard for me and the people around me.

Now I can understand why people love their car so much: you have so much freedom. If/when I will have my license I won't need to check if there are still trains at 11 PM in Bumfuckville where our friends live. I can just take the car and GO.

stevienixed, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:41 (seventeen years ago)

I've been working on getting my license this past year. I kinda keep going through driving instructors. First my dad, then my ex-gf (GOT WEIRD), then my friend Kenzie, and now I haven't been driving much for the past few months. I have this feeling that once I actually get a license and a car it's going to be like WHY DIDN'T I DO THIS WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER AHHHHHHH?!!!

Stevie, I completely relate to the bit about making the lives of those around you harder. One thing I HATE to do is ask for a ride. HATE it. SO much.

RabiesAngentleman, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:43 (seventeen years ago)

for long trips, I'd rather drive an automatic, especially on highways. In my parents car, I go up to 130km/h, put on the speed regulator, rest my feet, let the car do the job and listen to music or whatever

i'm not understanding this. you can get cruise control with stick shifts.
people who don't trust anyone else to drive besides themselves, do you have an issue with flying?

Granny Dainger, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:44 (seventeen years ago)

Actually, when I as a teenager and learning to drive I would have panic attacks behind the wheel. I would see myself veering into another lane and just completely freeze up and people would have to jerk the wheel. It was real bad. Plus what Kenan said about being the King Of ADD.

These days I don't do that at all (freezing up), so, it's been going better than I expected.

RabiesAngentleman, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:45 (seventeen years ago)

xpost

i know, it just so happens that there isnt one on my stick shift. The automatic i like better for the highway or traffic jams (when you dont have to switch to first, back to neutral, back to firsdt, back to neutral back to....)

Jibe, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:51 (seventeen years ago)

people who don't trust anyone else to drive besides themselves, do you have an issue with flying?

No, I don't have a pilot's license. :) Also, I don't mind buses TOO much, although I have driven a vehicle as large as a 25-foot, four-axle moving truck.

As it happens, this morning I started biking to work rather than driving. Depending on the bike route, it's between 8.5-9.5 miles and takes me less than an hour, and costs me no gas and no parking. Plus I can take my bike right up into my office, so don't have to worry about security.

Pancakes Hackman, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:51 (seventeen years ago)

(ok i also like my parents automatic more than my stick for long trips on highways cos my stick makes so much noise when going fast, whereas stepping into the automatic is like entering a world of silence)

Jibe, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:52 (seventeen years ago)

That's some mileage xp :) I have to pull 1,400lb palettes and lift heavy things when I get to work for 10+ hours, always bums me out because my shower and breakfast are basically null by the time I get there (BIG LONG HILL!!! biking home is AWESOME though) and I'm ZAPPED until my first break.

Do you find yourself without energy to face the day by the time you're there?

RabiesAngentleman, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:56 (seventeen years ago)

i can drive a stick. i am an awesome driver.

bell_labs, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:58 (seventeen years ago)

It wasn't bad -- grabbed a banana before I left, and I always eat real breakfast at work anyway, plus my building has showers. It's ideal! I'm a desk jockey, so don't have to worry about wearing out at work. Going home there's a MAJOR uphill portion (Cedar hill, for those of you familiar w/the Cleveland area) that I usually end up walking about half of.

Pancakes Hackman, Monday, 25 August 2008 13:59 (seventeen years ago)

driving an automatic is so bizarre after driving stick for so long. for instance, even though I know it won't, I reflexively tense up when coming to a stop, thinking the engine will be killed. After a day or so, I get used to it, but it still feels like doing something other than this thing called "driving".

Granny Dainger, Monday, 25 August 2008 14:01 (seventeen years ago)

i prefer stick for country driving, but i am glad i have an automatic right now. automatic is U&K for city driving/driving in traffic

bell_labs, Monday, 25 August 2008 14:07 (seventeen years ago)

automatic is U&K for city driving/driving in traffic

Yes, that's why the majority do stick shift here. ;-)It's not U&K if you know how to do manual.

stevienixed, Monday, 25 August 2008 15:09 (seventeen years ago)

well, i know how to do manual just fine, but i would have gotten serious foot cramps if i'd been driving a standard saturday when i was stopped in traffic for 2 hours.

bell_labs, Monday, 25 August 2008 15:19 (seventeen years ago)

True.

stevienixed, Monday, 25 August 2008 15:21 (seventeen years ago)

y'all better watch out on us19 in somersville, wv (and surrounding areas such as fayetteville) by the way! do not even go 1 over, not 5 or 10 over, or you WILL be ticketed.

i do not really trust other drivers. the whole time we were in hawaii, driving around curvy roads with drop offs down to the sea, i was flipping out at my father's "mad skills" (he prides himself on his ridiculous driving. he meets his message board friends to celebrate that they all have the same sporty car by driving the DRAGON - some curvy road in nc i think that is also known to by a motorcycle death trap). then, we went snorkling and there were cars on the rocks by the shore exactly because these people think they are too good at driving to be careful or slow the fuck down on a blind hairpin turn. i don't think he learned anything from seeing this, though.

i love manual. automatic scares me. except for the 2 weeks i was commuting from arlington, va to chevy chase, md. would have loved a clutch-free vehicle then!

tehresa, Monday, 25 August 2008 15:27 (seventeen years ago)

I tried teaching a guy to drive once but he mostly spoke Dutch, wasn't fluent in English & I had a hard time w/his accent & him w/mine. So that didn't last very long.

Abbott, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 01:47 (seventeen years ago)

It was an automatic. The main thing I conveyed was "FAST ONE" (gas pedal) and "SLOW ONE" (brake), which is STILL abt 1/3 of what you need to know.

Abbott, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 01:49 (seventeen years ago)

I can only drive manual, never been in an automatic as far as I know. Lol europe, I suppose?

Always the best bit of Amazing Race - when the Americans are confronted with manual shift cars.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 05:27 (seventeen years ago)

i learned how to drive a manual in 1993, drove for a few months, took test, failed test, drove for a few more months (even shared driving to s california from bc!), took test on different car, failed by like 1 point for something stupid, relationship with guy who had car ended (amicably, sorta), never got around to taking driving test again, was busy with school, didn't care enough abt driving anyway, sometimes drove bf's truck, but haven't been behind wheel of a car since 1996!

it is kind of mental :/ i'll just decide one day that i need a license and do a course or drive around with a friend for a while. i have zero desire to drive in this city tho unless i'm driving out of it.

rrrobyn, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 11:05 (seventeen years ago)

I kind of know how to drive, but I don't have a license

Failed my test 6 times about 10 years ago. Gave up trying after that, lessons too expensive and the reason for failing the last test was so ridiculous I just couldn't be arsed any more. The only time I've wished I could drive since then is when moving house. It's not like I could afford a car anyway, or have anywhere to park it if I did have one.

Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 11:25 (seventeen years ago)

tried it once, hated all the clutch pedal messing about, i always thought driving was a lot simpler than that. No way could i concentrate on avoiding driving into walls and pressing down on the right pedals. I am useless at doing two things at once.

never going to drive.

Ste, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 12:41 (seventeen years ago)

Never learned. No coincidence I've lived in London my whole life.

chap, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 12:44 (seventeen years ago)

I learned to drive at 14 with an automatic. My car-nut friend kept telling me "once you learn to drive manual, you'll love it, you'll never go back." My wife taught me to drive manual one day in '88 (when she was 8 months pregnant, many laffs that day). We've had manual vehicles ever since, but mainly becuase they're a little cheaper than equivalents with automatic, and I'm a stingy fucker. I'm getting kind of tired of manual transmissions, to be honest, and would kind of like our next car to have an automatic.

Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 15:22 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

never tried to drive a manual. what do you do when (for instance) you want to drop a gear to overtake?

Thomas, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 23:30 (seventeen years ago)

shit I mean, never tried to drive an automatic. ie I have always driven "stick".

Thomas, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 23:31 (seventeen years ago)

you slam down on the pedal

deeznuts, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 23:32 (seventeen years ago)

never tried to drive a manual. what do you do when (for instance) you want to drop a gear to overtake?

-- Thomas, Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:30 PM (Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:30 PM) Bookmark Link

shit I mean, never tried to drive an automatic. ie I have always driven "stick".

-- Thomas, Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:31 PM (Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:31 PM) Bookmark Link

of course you do. that's why it's called automatic.

i can buy that you've never driven one but you've never been a passenger in a car with an automatic transmission?

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 00:04 (seventeen years ago)

slamming the pedal usually compels the auto transmission to drop a gear

gbx, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 00:40 (seventeen years ago)

i can buy that you've never driven one but you've never been a passenger in a car with an automatic transmission?

-- chicago kevin, Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:04 AM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

once that I can remember. a taxi in stockholm. but that was before I knew how to drive so I didn't pay much attention.

Thomas, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 00:45 (seventeen years ago)

damn!

as stated above, you just get heavy on the gas and the transmission does the rest.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 00:49 (seventeen years ago)

or you can shift into '2', which will force it to use just its two lowest gears

http://www.csa.com/discoveryguides/auto/images/res3.jpg

mookieproof, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 00:59 (seventeen years ago)

Manual is fun when you can drive on mostly empty highways. If you're in traffic everyday it's absolutely miserable ... the only benefit is that you have greater control over how to move the thing.

burt_stanton, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 01:07 (seventeen years ago)

which is not something you want to do if you're going, say, 70 mph and want to overtake another vehicle.

xpost.

chicago kevin, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 01:09 (seventeen years ago)

You put it in P for Pass, duh.

Kerm, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 01:42 (seventeen years ago)

what? gears are more complex than "High" or "Low" ?

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Ste, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 09:27 (seventeen years ago)

i can buy that you've never driven one but you've never been a passenger in a car with an automatic transmission?

This is not uncommon in Europe. Now I have this weird obsession to check parked cars if they are manual/automatic. There's a few out there but on the whole most are still stick. My father in law has a manual but apart from that all the people I know drive with a stick.

Lesson three was, ahum, interesting. I think it could be called:"Lesson in endurance for the teacher" as I was still unable to start from first gear some of the time. ARGH!!!! I still don't feel when the engine "connects" and as a result I just stop. :-(((( I also learned how to start from up a hill which is DAMN FUCKING HARD when you drive with a stick.

I feel such a klutz. :-(((((( People YSI me HOPE and GOOD VIBES.

stevienixed, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 13:57 (seventeen years ago)

Dont worry about the hill start! It's normal to mess it up when you begin! I'm actually surprised you're doing hill starts if this is your third lesson and you stall when you start your car. But hill starts are so much fun, I love doing them without pressing on the accelerator :D

Also, dont care about what the teacher may or may not be feeling. He sees people who want to learn all day long all through the year, he's used to seeing people not get it in the beginning.

Jibe, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 14:17 (seventeen years ago)

Message got cut off but what I wanted to say is just do your own stuff without thinking about the teacher. I know I was terrible if i became too aware the teacher was just next to me. Forget about him (except when he's giving you pointers though) and you'll do well. Good luck and have fun!

Jibe, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 14:19 (seventeen years ago)

This was hour five and six. But the third time I'm going (every lesson is two hours). I'm doing a 20 hr course so it goes slower in a way.

I am VERY nervous but in a good way: I can see myself driving one day. In the distant future but it's there, a glimmer of hope. ;-)

Yeah, I think I mainly messed up when I was aware of all the cars behind me and the teacher. But the teachers are pretty good (aside from the silly jokes). :-)

Thanks

stevienixed, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 14:21 (seventeen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 23:01 (seventeen years ago)

I kinda expected more "automatic and no manual" answers

StanM, Thursday, 28 August 2008 17:48 (seventeen years ago)

4 real

Some Americans keeping very quiet here.

Abbott, Thursday, 28 August 2008 17:49 (seventeen years ago)

And that is a trait not stereotypically associated with U.S. citizens!

Abbott, Thursday, 28 August 2008 17:52 (seventeen years ago)


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