Facebook: the movie

what the fuck

So who will they cast as 'Tom,' their evil rival from the West Coast.

how do you HAVE internet savvy? isn't that something you are or are not?

guys sometimes i get riled up about facebook

this makes me fuckign sick for some reason

It should be a musical. What would it be called? Oh yeah, Facebook!, of course.

No way, they film this as a straightforward comedy/drama, and then the musical adaptation off-Broadway is called Poke!

:D

Show-stopping number "Status Update" turns into a crowd favorite...

Thanks for reminding me that it's been months, MONTHS since I've been poked.

O T M N E D

"I'm nervous, I'm anxious!
I can only hesitate!
Tell my friends, all at once
About yesterday's date
Will they read, do they care
For my status updaaaaaate!"

i would produce this.

"Contact importer
Your favorite friend sorter
It's your time to shine..."

anyone know an orchestrator?

i could probably do that shit

or wait is that the same as a conductor

no. i could probably come up with tunez but would need someone to do the orchestrations ie figuring out which instruments play what and writing out everything.

"Just one application
You can try it out on me
Just one application
Really, soon you'll see

Go write a testimonial!
Get reranked on Sparkey
Even play some Scrabulous
While you can, for free..."

worst idea ever!

i want to be the conductor of the orchestra of this musical production

by conducting do you mean pressing the buttons on the synths? because that is what most pit orchestras have been reduced to. woohooo virtual orchestra. aslkjdgas.

not that i feel passionately about the issue or anything.

really?? the last plays i went to had orchestra-orchestras i think, but then that was like 10 years ago now

they usually keep the house minimum (which ranges in size, excluding some exceptions) and then everything else that was originally scored is eitehr cut out via reorchestration or put in through virtual orchestra. it is bs imo.

He threw a virtual omlette at me!
He threw a virtual omlette at me!!
What have I done to deserve such nerve?
Such egregious contumely?

Venageance, however, shall belong to me!
I shall mirror his rudeness
By throwing some foodness
And, in so doing, make war playfully!

But what shall I let fly?
A sausage? A leek? a potato? A custard pie??
I can slap him with gloves or can smite him by throwing my shoes
And yet, and yet....
I CANNOT DECIDE WHICH APPLICATION TO USE!!!

And what if he
Should then return fire on me?
And escalate conflict (though only virtually)?
Will our playful game end in pain or confirm our camaraderie?

AAAAAM IIIIII WAAAAAAAAAASTING MY TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME????

*cheers*

"And now, Bernadette Peters sings "He Threw a Virtual Omelette at Me" by command performance..."

"Just one application
You can try it out on me
Just one application
Really, soon you'll see

Go write a testimonial!
Get reranked on Sparkey
Even play some Scrabulous
While you can, for free..."

-- Ned Raggett,

I always wanted to be the Fagan character at school, but it was always given to a teacher. Fagan would sing this one.

Oh no. I mean sweet fucking Jesus. Why. Only someone with no internet savvy would say, "sure, yeah! I'll make a Facebook movie!"

Wait unless there's money involved.

You can always rely on the kindness of strangers etc

Hahahah moley that's been my exact model in this thread so far.

"New Or-le-ans!" etc.

Teh endtimes approach.

whenever i think about writing a musical i picture homer simpson singing 'where is the rent? i must have the rent!'

You know at first I thought this was going to be some sort of godawful heavy handed mockumentary.

dude. sorkin. farnsworth invention. studio 60. dude takes his shit seriously.

I pretty much don't know what that means.

Did you ever see The West Wing? That was him.

Nope. I live in a pop cultureless cave. I have a friend who tells me everything in the world about this stuff, but it's in one and out the other with me.

this is stupid

this thread, i mean

you guys

BAH

Loosen up jeff and help us write this damn musical already.

Take a look at my facebook,
I am cultured, I am nice
I've got 300 friends,
Most of them pretend

Add me, add me, add me

I started writing one that began as a solemn moment of social networking doubt and turned into riveting internet paranoia, but it turned out to be not so riveting and sort of crappy.

This should be like West Side Story with the Facebookers in one gang, and Bebo as the other with Bill Gates playing Officer Krupke.

and John Foxx should be on the soundtrack with "DO you remember MySpace?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMlfJN4wt2Y

i did not get very far with that.

you probably need to avoid eating for 12 hours before watching it to the end.

wow this will be dull!. (the facebook movie, not the ilx facebook musical)

Brad Pitt stars as xhttprequest

Who plays The Three Harvard Guys?

yes they should make it Tron style

"who does he calculate he is?"

i'm
just
a facebook application
play with me
oh won't you play with me

if this film is going to be accurate documentary in any way it will be a 120 minute long horror film about zombies.

Ken of the Dead

Look Who's Poking

Lamedead

poke-back mountain

this thread title should have been pokes, bruv

Aaron SORKIN? Really? Jesus. At least the West Wing actors will get some work again!

I think it'd be okay if it was animated.

WHY do they not make a movie about proto-epidemiologist and personal hero Joseph Goldberger? I'd watch it and I BET others would too, because it is full of SHOCK and SUSPENSE and HEROISM OVERCOMING ALL ODDS:

Angry and frustrated, Goldberger would not give up trying to persuade his critics that pellagra was a dietary disorder, not an infectious disease. He hoped that one final dramatic experiment would convince his critics. On April 26, 1916 he injected five cubic centimeters of a pellagrin's blood into the arm of his assistant, Dr. George Wheeler. Wheeler shot six centimeters of such blood into Goldberger. Then they swabbed out the secretions of a pellagrin's nose and throat and rubbed them into their own noses and throats. They swallowed capsules containing scabs of pellagrins' rashes. Others joined what Goldberger called his "filth parties," including Mary Goldberger. None of the volunteers got pellagra. Despite Goldberger's heroic efforts, a few physicians remained staunch opponents of the dietary theory of pellagra.

Then those physicians died of pellagra.

IF ONLY

Maybe one could in the movie, even though it would be historically inaccurate.

Srsly my hope for the world is renewed every time I reread the story of this amazing man.

Sorkin is dismal. At least he's not fucking Dowd anymore.

If I were still unemployed, I'd SOOOO score this musical in a heartbeat.

(It would be a good place to exorcise all that CHEESE pop none of my bands have allowed me to express.)

Collaborative effort. It can still happen.

"If I knew then
What I know now
Those deep feelings that say it all
Don't ask me when
Don't insist how
Just believe I'll write on your wall..."

You won't be allowed into the theatre to see the musical until you've rung up 10 of your friends and invited them to come see it.

It should be noted that this thread appears to be prime reading:

Post #1
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Aaron Sorkin (Los Angeles, CA) wrote on Aug 19, 2008 at 6:10 PM

If anyone has any questions I'd be happy to answer them as best I can.

Post #2
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Steven Andres wrote on Aug 19, 2008 at 6:33 PM

Had a question I've always wanted to bug Ian about but makes sense to ask the source -- one of the final episodes that aired of Studio 60 (great show -- the audience just wasn't smart enough for it I guess?) starred Allison Janney as the guest host of the fictional show -- a fantastic actress and will forever be "CJ" for me even when I hear her voice on the Kaiser Permanente commercials. Well this one episode was outside of the regular story arc and it was the episode that aired immediately after NBC pulled the plug on your fine show. When it was aired, at about 29 minutes into it the audio of the main characters dropped out completely, yet you could still hear 100% of all the background noises (chairs moving, side conversations by extras). This continued for about 20 minutes and then the sound was restored. I always thought this was some inside joke at how NBC silenced your show. If it was just my TiVo malfunctioning, then all the sound would cut out not just the main actors. It happened on my cable system as well as a friend's system. Maybe it was just the west coast satellite? I've just always been dying to ask -- intentional but subtle sign of dissent to the network or weird technical glitch? Or "no comment"?

Post #3
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Aaron Sorkin (Los Angeles, CA) replied to Steven's post on Aug 19, 2008 at 7:59 PM

Steven,

I've never heard of anything like that. It sure wasn't on purpose. (Is it possible one of your speakers kicked out for 20 minutes?) If you'd like a copy of the episode let me know.

Aaron

AT LAST STEVEN ANDRES CAN SLEEP SOUNDLY AT NIGHT

I'm quite taken with this idea! I've been looking for a new musical project that isn't being in some lame indie band.

Magnus tried to get me to write a musical after I wrote him a song. It could work.

Though, actually, I'd have to sign up for Facebook to understand, wouldn't I? Bah. Can't I get a researcher to do it for me?

i thought he was gonna be 'i meant questions about the facebook movie, guys' but he was just happy to help!

He did take it rather well. I would have been a little more...tart.

I was dreaming of a day when I could be free
And no new notifications would be waiting for me
So I've poked my final poke and now I'll live beneath the trees
Aaaaaagh wait just gotta have my turn on scrabulous (R.I.P)

We'll have this finished in no time.

"Don't cause me to whine
For you alone I pine
It's all because all day
You were constantly offline..."

oh man. new york advice!

Mike,

I live for adulation so thank you for your generous comments.

As for your question, every city has cheap food and cheap entertainment but New York is the only city that has good cheap food and entertainment. Grey's Papaya on 72nd and Broadway is where you'll get the best two hot dogs you've ever had and a coke for $3. They're open 24 hours. Every diner in NY (and they're on every block) is equally good. Eggs, bacon, toast potatoes and coffee for $3.99 plus tip. The worst slice of pizza you'll have there is better than the best slice of pizza you'll have anyplace else. H&H bagels on 79th and Broadway is also open 24 hours. They're constantaly maing fresh bagels and if stick a couple of slice of ham on a toastes sesame seed bagel you'll have enough left over from a 5 dollar bill to walk across the street to Zabars and by a mushroom knish. That'll tie you over till dinner and that's where the pizza comes in.

As for entertainment, check out the comedy clubs on Monday or Tuesday nights after 10. You'll see some good newcomers and 2am Seinfeld'll come in and polish up whatever he's going to do on Letterman the next night. There's some great theatre off-off Broadway (some bad theater too but that's to be expected and in the summer there's tons of free stuff.

Aaron

You must change your status
in order to update us
on the little things that we don't need to know
hey! you have new photos
of your brand new coat! oh!
and your brother's band is cancelling their show

x-post -- If he's going that route he should make the film after this one about Yelp.

"If there ever was a reason
In this the lovely season
To finally stop wanting to moan
It's because at long last
To investigate your past
I can look up your page via iPhone..."

oh my god

There's still possibilities here.

Well, we've been beaten to the punch:

http://www.facebookthemusical.co.uk/

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article7127721.ece

can't wait

Needs more (any) regular Sorkin actors. Though looking forward to "Justin Timberlake *IS* the new Bradley Whitford in..."

http://grab.by/grabs/ee562b9328ff4eb1277cf18f547a507d.png

what's wrong here

headline was just written three years after the caption

a story three years in the writing

Johnny Vaughan's had a miscarriage?

stopped reading after "played by Justin Timberlake."

stopped reading and bought out entire theater's block of tickets for opening night

The film, set for release in October, opens on the night of February 4, 2004 when Zuckerberg, then 19, is seen to be dumped in a Harvard bar by his girlfriend, Erica.

She tells him he will “go through life thinking that girls don’t like you because you’re a tech geek”. The reality, she says, is rather more upsetting: “I want you to know, from the bottom of my heart, that that won’t be true. It’ll be because you’re an asshole.”

Total lols!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/18/pakistani-lawyer-petition_n_617678.html

Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg is being investigated by Pakistani police under a section of the penal code that makes blasphemy against Muhammad punishable by death.

Neat poster:

http://www.thesocialnetwork-movie.com/images/splash.jpg

http://www.thesocialnetwork-movie.com

this film is going to be chill as hell

http://www.collider.com/2010/06/25/social-network-teaser-trailer-david-fincher-jesse-eisenberg-justin-timberlake/#more-34291

this film is going to be chill as hell

http://www.filmlinc.com/b/?p=3097

Only if it is two and a half hours of people typing status updates like that trailer.

the more i hear about this the more i'm interested. wasn't at all interested when the movie was first announced.

It does seem to be shaping up favorably, but Jesse Eisenberg is already approaching nuisance status afaic.

he seems appropriately cast in this, though

yeah seems to be playing the usual character except not likeable

Lotta portentous dialogue in this trailer. Still don't know what to think of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaaGLogbrfY

As much as I like Fincher, the use of "Creep" here just kills whatever desire I had to see this.

I'm not convinced Fincher was the guy for this.

That is basically the only reason I'm interested in seeing it.

cool trailer, and since it's fincher i'm willing to give it benefit of the doubt, but this looks completely ridiculous

i know it's not oliver stone of all people but i still can't shake the "w" vibes i get from this

okay I can't believe I just watched an interesting trailer for a Facebook movie

very funny facial expression at 2:03

I'm not convinced Fincher was the guy for this.

I'm not convinced by Fincher in general. This whole thing seems just off.

Did you not like Zodiac, Ned?

That's the one film of his I need to finally see because, maybe, that'll change my mind. I've seen nearly everything else, Benjamin Button aside (and I fully intend to keep it that way) and he's sorta like Michael Mann to me in that he leaves me pretty cold in the end.

I like some of his movies very much, but this seems like a weird fit. I could see someone like Armando Iannucci knocking it out of the park, but Fincher seems to be giving it a needlessly gloomy vibe, complete with his usual brownish palette. (I'm hoping the flick proves me wrong.)

I liked Benjamin Button while I was seeing it in the theater, but the more distance I got from it, the more I picked it apart, the more I pivoted and began to hate it altogether. If I ever see it again, it will be too soon.

I loathed Benjamin Button when I saw it, but the more distance I got from it, the more I liked it.

the more i haven't seen it, the more i don't like or dislike it

Wow, really do not like the trailer for this at all.

I hadn't seen Zodiac since seeing it in the theater on opening night and I still stand by my original assessment... Lots of great scenes with absolutely no cohesion into an overall whole.

(meant to add that I watched it again a couple months ago)

wrong

(It was actually MORE than a couple of months ago!)

cool trailer, and since it's fincher i'm willing to give it benefit of the doubt, but this looks completely ridiculous

― i think i'm baby peach, larry koopa (J0rdan S.), Thursday, July 15, 2010 7:54 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

think ppl are overfocussing on fincher a little. it was written by aaron sorkin. not exactly a lightweight. fincher describes 'fight club' as being kinda like 'animal house', which i think is a good way into this trailer.

haha wtf

"a million dollars isn't cool. you know what IS cool? a BILLION dollars"

^^kinda reminded me of the freaks and geeks episode where the guidance counseler says "people say if i don't drink i won't be cool, but what if i said if you don't drink you WILL be cool"

it was written by aaron sorkin.

Evidence for the prosecution.

sure sorkin is not a lightweight. i don't like his stuff though, hence giving the benefit of the doubt on fincher's involvement. this is probably not going to be a bad screenplay in a trivial/lol retarded way though, agreed.

sorkin rules fuiud

im prolly reviewing this and shdn't give away gold like that tbrr

crazy thing about fincher is that he followed one of the best movies of the decade with one of the worst and nobody seemed to really notice

besides us

zoller seitz to thread

amazing trailer

this film looks SO COLD.

CCBB/panic room was not as good as zodiac/fight club, but 1 of the worst? naaaah. panic room is mediocre, but CCBB is mad tite. kent jones says so too.

i'll rep for panic room

man ill see anyhting where justin timberlake plays napster

I can't believe it's actually about the facebook creation myth

think its about a cool bro named napster played by justin timberlake who gets in all sorts of crazy web adventures while attending harvard and learns some important life lessons from his nerd friend michael cera jr

who is playing friendster?

I can't believe it's actually about the facebook creation myth

― kim jong-ill (cozen), Friday, July 16, 2010 9:16 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

there was a tv film here about sinclair vs spectrum last year, which i was surprised existed (coz sinclair is shown to be kinda mental). he signed a release apparently. but i guess they have more free speech n shit in america?

yeah, its called the first amendment, dealwithit.jpg

deal-with-it-sunglasses-on-us-constitution.gif

I don't know what I expected really but it wasn't a thriller based on the fb origin story

i've been reading my blogs since this was announced so it's kinda exactly what i expected

always forget to read my blogs : /

dunno if thriller is the most accurate thing to call it

rom com

think it's a dark comedy

in the se7en mould

dark rom com feat. beheadings STARRING justin timberlake AS napster

funniest running himym joke imo is robin telling unfunny jokes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfxcLwI1ops&feature=related

im guessing this is a 'drama'

Sorkin is much better at movies than he is at television.

or rather "A Few Good Men" is the only thing of his I haven't wanted to punch in the neck, is maybe a more accurate thing to say

I wanted to wring A Few Good Hens' necks

i hope they somehow work in zuckerberg's illuminati hoody

That trailer looks like a cross between "The Insider" and "Bugsy Malone."

wish more films aped Bugsy Malone tbh

me too

you can't have the line "this is OUR time" in a movie without it automatically making me think of The Goonies

^^^^^^^^^!

Eisenberg does smackability really well. (not a dis)

Agreed.

i know it's not oliver stone of all people but i still can't shake the "w" vibes i get from this

― i think i'm baby peach, larry koopa (J0rdan S.), Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:54 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

me 2 cuz the first "w" trailer looked great and had the same slomo/slow-tempo song combo (whata wonderful world iirc)

theres no way this could be as bad & dull as w tho

also i give this like 3:1 odds it gets a best pic nom

I wonder if Sorkin can write anything that doesn't sound like every character is coked up and talks to fast?

(and this is from someone who liked the dude once upon a time.)

Eisenberg does smackability really well. (not a dis)

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, July 17, 2010 10:28 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

ya i think this is perfect casting

Might be time for a couple of re-writes:
http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/20/technology/facebook_ownership/index.htm

insane

so the trailer showing actual scenes from the movie wasn't nearly as compelling as the trailer that ran like a Facebook chat session

they're playing that same trailer now with kanye's "power" as the music and it's almost more epic

The Youtube Movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfEzHdWKOoQ

Urgent and key, that.

that is great

haha awesome

I keep seeing extended adverts for this on TV. They're really pushing it to pay for more than just a :30 TV Spot.

also I think it premieres at the NYFF, so if any of that contingent is going, report back.

seeing this next week. s0 excited.

I know it looks good, doesn't it? Who do you write for HM, by the way?

I swear of all the trailers I've seen in the last 3 weeks this is the only tolerable one.

popular reviews/discussion site ilx, mostly. but also s1ght and s0und.

xpost

Are you going to get to vote in the '12 poll? Because that would be beyond awesome!

no idea. i hope so, if only for the opportunity to troll morbius.

r u kiddin, you've seen what he likes. xp

Facebook's founding is not of interest to me, but I hope it will be about somethin else. Sorkin's participation makes that long odds tho.

xpost I don't agree with your taste 95 percent of the time, but I do agree with your willingness to smash the canon.

Like my willingness to smash the Democrats?

lol democrats. cannon fodder morelike.

Can't see how that would translate to a S&S poll ballot, Morbs.

http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/topten/poll/voter.php?forename=Armond&surname=White

timidly canonical except OH NO U DIDN'T #1 for AI

I want to see a ballot that puts Joel David's immortal, Metzger-including to shame.

sort of assumed fincher did this film to reassure ppl of his ability to turn a profit

but i am kinda intrigued now

Sort of hope Armond's next ballot is all Spielberg.

yeah, I can't wait til S&S poll is taken over by brave Michael Mann & Dario Argento fans. xxxp

Best-case scenario for TSN is that given Eisenberg's proprensity for rapidfire neurotic babble, Fincher let the rest of the cast do the same w/ Sorkinisms a la Ken Russell vs Chayefsky in Altered States.

yeah, I can't wait til S&S poll is taken over by brave Michael Mann & Dario Argento fans.

well, the editor (who was also the editor in 2002) has written a book on 'heat' so

yeah, I can't wait til S&S poll is taken over by brave Michael Mann & Dario Argento fans

Me neither, although I hope they like Curt McDowell too.

the one or two CMcDs I've seen were better than the entire output of the other two.

great, another list thread

Best-case scenario for TSN is that given Eisenberg's proprensity for rapidfire neurotic babble, Fincher let the rest of the cast do the same w/ Sorkinisms a la Ken Russell vs Chayefsky in Altered States.

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 September 2010 17:17 (8 minutes ago)

this doesn't resemble fincher's usual working methods

The milieu of this film doesn't appear to resemble his previous work, either.

This is another one of those films I can't see being a bit hit but I could be wrong.

Like somebody said "facebook movie" and the studios jumped but really kids don't care about this shit.

I keep thinking this movie is a joke.

The internet, bros clinking glasses, bros yelling, random female body parts and oh faces, children singing alt-rock hits IT'S ALL HERE

Jeff Cronenweth (Fight Club) is back as DF's cinematographer; that's a plus

sorkin and fincher probably get mad paid, but otherwise it wouldn't have been that expensive to produce. no stars.

wonder if it will be dark and yellow. is she shooting digital again?

Timberlake working on spec, right?

It's like if Easy Rider was a studio's carefully crafted prestige project meant to capture the zeitgeist rather than a biker film that fell ass-backwards onto it

$47 million budget according to wiki. Cheaper than I thought it'd be. Figured Fincher would have needed expensive effects shots to recreate Harvard in 2004 exactly.

I am reasonably eager to see this, but moreso if someone can assure me Timberlake has less than 15 mins' screen time.

you want more quality time with the serious-faced michael cera?

I'd rather see Timberlake in a remake of Secret Honor.

J.Timb better be the Meat Loaf of this film

$47 million budget according to wiki. Cheaper than I thought it'd be. Figured Fincher would have needed expensive effects shots to recreate Harvard in 2004 exactly.

― a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Thursday, 9 September 2010 17:35 (4 minutes ago)

ha

JT can be the meatloaf in my film.

yeah i mean assuming maybe a third of that is salaries, ~ $30m is probably about as small a production budget as fincher could/would work with

have to digitally erase all the student extras texting on the quad, or at least knock it down to 70%

xxp

seeing the trailer for this immediately after the trailer for The Virginity Hit was a lovely bit of soul death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK23H_CLTTg

you would describe it as "an epic soul fail"

Facebook's founding is not of interest to me, but I hope it will be about somethin else. Sorkin's participation makes that long odds tho.

The book on which this is based is mainly about Zuckerberg fucking over the ConnectU dudes and their lawsuit, and Zuckerberg and Justin Timberlake dude fucking over the Not Zuckerberg founder dude. Throw in some heavy handed "popular good looking jocks with ideas who end up with nothing" contrasted with the "friendless charisma-less emo geek misfit who perves over girls and ends up ruling the world".

Did Wall Street get good reviews at the time? This'll end up being the '00s Wall Street. Surprised it's being put forward as "LOL FACEBOOK MOVIE HERE IS SOME STATUS UPDATES ON THE BIG SCREEN look at Timberlake doing the Nerdy Entourage" instead of "fantastical real life tale of dorky students becoming billionaires overnight".

i think it's kinda being put forward as both dude.

I honestly was like "uh fuck you movie about the internet looool" until I realized like two days ago that Fincher directed this :/

UH OH

I had no idea about this film until seeing the trailer last week and one thought that did not occur to me was "this looks like the work of an ace director". Will it be as dull as 21, which it seems to rely on for inspiration?

according to david fincher, yes

trailers aren't usually made by ace directors afaik

man, how could they make a movie about the internet? what a crock. guess they have to cash in before it disappears like the last fad.

internet abt movies h8s movies abt internet

the internet is no fad to whiney. he once wrote for a magazine called "fobidden internet"

in fact he was the editor in chief

man as bad as this movie could be, i dunno if it could be as bad as 21

I wonder what school they used for this since Harvard doesn't let film crews on campus

also I have an internal chuckle every time I see Rashida Jones in the trailer and wonder how many other alums worked on this

did you go to harvard

went to a school right outside boston. no, not tufts...

went to a school right outside boston. no, not tufts...

c'mon, give us the next line of the song!

I think the best part of that 30 Rock line was picking Tufts over MIT

how could they make a movie about the internet?

already forgetting S Bullock classic The Net

Filming locations for The Social Network (2010)

200 S Euclid Ave, Pasadena, California, USA

470 W Walnut St, Pasadena, California, USA

Andover, Massachusetts, USA
(exteriors)

Boston, Massachusetts, USA

Downtown, Los Angeles, California, USA

Glendale, California, USA
(police station)

Johns Hopkins University - 3400 N. Charles Street, Baltimore, Maryland, USA
(campus scenes)

Los Angeles, California, USA

Medford, Massachusetts, USA

Wheelock College, Boston, Massachusetts, USA

lols @ the net

George: You're selling computers?

Frank: Two months ago, I saw a provocative movie on cable TV. It was

called The Net, with that girl from the bus. I did a little reading,

and I realize, it wasn't that farfetched.

A few days after we spoke, Zuckerberg changed his Facebook profile, removing The West Wing from his list of favorite TV shows.

lol

has anyone seen a non-rave for this yet?

think it's only been shown to critics they 'trust'/are prepared to give an exclusive to so far

http://incontention.com/2010/09/13/finchers-social-network-nails-human-frailty/

lol url. there's also the wells review, which is kind of embarrassingly positive (and semi-spoils the ending).

i haven't actually seen any trade reviews or london reviews yet. just "bloggers"

1st ldn screening is thursday afaik

how could you spoil the ending of this movie

i hope it ends at the premiere of this movie

like in a pee wees big adventure style

david fincher laying in bed reading THE BOOK

slowly smiling

"start me up"

THE END

"honey, this came for you"

shot of the book on a pile of mail at the front door... pans over to the welcome mat... "THE FINCHERS"

it's not like a "this is the situation at the end of the movie" spoiler, more a "this is the final scene" spoiler. the final scene is fincher using after effects to get rid of iphones at a college dorm.

wells is not to be trusted as a critic. he makes TERRIBLE calls these days.

the final scene is jeffrey wells typing in a midtown coffee shop, tutting at latinos/the overweight, and tapping out the final sentence of his review

im only dimly aware of wells. did he used to be better?

yes, he is a crank (was he ever not, i'm a relatively recent reader?) xxp

a movie for guys like myself and critics like Eric Kohn, Karina Longworth and Robert Koehler to savor and consider

what a weird thing to say -- and in the second geedee line of the review!

ill probs steal it tho

he's always been pretty good at the insidey gossip industry stuff, which is why i always read him. now he's become somewhat of a magnificent crank, railing against totally bizarre shit and generally pretty fun to read.

lol hm

a movie for guys like myself and critics like dr morbius, snrub-n-tug, and deeznuts to savor and consider

he is totally self absorbed and really really hates people

For what it's worth, it is quite an amazing movie.

Posted by: Kent Jones | September 14, 2010 at 09:49 AM

actual poster quote

rly tho, the poster shd be some1's fbook wall with people 'liking' it

Wells is not a critic by the biggest stretch

(eg, frames nearly everything in terms of Oscar prospects)

that and more

he basically is concerned with whether movies will "connect" with the public, gross big, and win tin. Went on a rant about Kiarostami a few months ago, and how only geeks enjoy the horrible Douglas Sirk.

right on cue

i hope this movie is half as good as this thread is funny

and in saying this I'm obviously alluding to Inception
and in saying this I'm obviously alluding to Inception
and in saying this I'm obviously alluding to Inception

lol at wells grouping koehler w/ longworth and kohn

but i'm so fucking stoked for this movie.

you just wanna poke J Eisenberg

I accept that I must not publish any reports or reviews in print, TV, radio or online (including on Blogs, Forums, Twitter, Facebook or in Online Chats) in line with these embargo guidelines.

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5 track teaser EP from the soundtrack by Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross: http://nullco.com/TSN/

Some of it reminds me of his Quake soundtrack

i want to poke u like an animal

Best-case scenario for TSN is that given Eisenberg's proprensity for rapidfire neurotic babble, Fincher let the rest of the cast do the same w/ Sorkinisms a la Ken Russell vs Chayefsky in Altered States.

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 September 2010

from the Jeffrey Wells blog:

The high-throttle dialogue in The Social Network is, for me, a key reason why it works as well as it does. As I wrote last Monday night, David Fincher's film is like "His Girl Friday on Adderall." It's also spoken with the same rapidity that Ken Russell chose for 1980's Altered States (a decision, incidentally, that so angered screenwriter Paddy Chayefsky he removed his name from the credits).

the script was too long....have the characters talk faster

that worked alright with 'zodiac'

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/09/19/arts/19social3/19social3-popup.jpg

l-r sorkin, fincher

no idea Sorkin looked like a younger Gary Busey

so the reviews coming out of NYFF are pretty spectacular.

as I wrote last Monday night, David Fincher's film is like "His Girl Friday on Adderall." I

so proud of his tinny insight he repeats it

Next: Is this “the Citizen Kane of John Hughes movies”?

99 takes

the story about sorkin fainting and waking up in handcuffs after they found his shrooms at burbank airport is the best bit about this press onslaught.

Mr. Fincher, an auteur director who creates worlds so expressive that words often seem beside the point

Mubi nicely providing a summary of the aforementioned press onslaught.

ILX: the movie would be all time

Casting Call for ILX: THE MOVIE

whats the plot of the ILX movie

― max, Wednesday, March 5, 2008 4:50 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Food items solve crimes. Comedy.

― roxymuzak, Wednesday, March 5, 2008 4:50 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark

seriously, let's all put our lives on hold for a year and make this thing

TOMBOT isn't here to direct.

call him

what wd be the film's tragic message

a generation wasted on arguing over the quality of Malkmus vocals.

a time lapse shot of aja sitting in front of a laptop, slowly morphing into morbz

or maybe the camera pans away from a bunch of This Is What I Look Like shots to reveal a goatse.cx mosiac

pulls away, rather

mosaic, rather as well

maybe ned whips out his statscock in front of the mirror

seriously, let's all put our lives on hold for a year and make this thing

^cosign. It's not like I'm doing anything else worthwhile.

:-D

a generation wasted on arguing over the quality of Malkmus vocals.

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, September 22, 2010 9:55 PM

this is perfect

jessy eisenberg's such a closet asexual

omg it's mittens

wonder who the first contrarian/last honest critic/________ is gonna be on this one

Clearly it has no 'dislike' button.

hiyoooo

it has an awful lot of 'friends'

Armond?

“Don’t call me Mr. Sorkin – OK, I’m not that old – Aaron is fine or Doc or Ace…”

http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2010/09/23/sorkin_talks_the_social_network_at_harvard_q_a/#more

For some reason I figured Slant would lead the charge of naysayers that's inevitable as the release date gets closer, but no. We look to Armond now.

has armond broken cover on this one at all yet?

I don't think so. Probably too busy hooting over Legends of the Guardian.

The film opens Friday, so AW weighs in on Wed.

This is not hard to guess: AW doesn't like Fincher.

between timberlake, garfield, mara and eisenberg, this is the hottest cast everrrrr

This is not hard to guess: AW doesn't like Fincher anything if other critics like it.

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Saturday, September 25, 2010 11:45 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

maybe it's just timberlake looking like anakin skywalker or 'here's a seemingly unfilmable lil story about a young, ambitious douchebag' factor but every ad i see for this i think of shattered glass, except this one ends w/ stephen glass winning a billion pulitzers.

haha.

Denby adores it.

Denby adores the new Woody Allen!

A negative review!

I don't think so. Probably too busy hooting over Legends of the Guardian.

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Defend the Indefensible: David Denby

I saw from Andr3w Sch3nk3r's blog he didn't love it either ("completely disposable") but the main Sl4nt review from N1ck is a good one.

xxp

this seems like the stupidest idea for a movie ever

"compare the way female desire literally floats through the wide screen of Bonjour Tristesse..."

and im out

xpost YOU'RE the stupidest idea for a movie ever

Any ILE'ers watch it yet?

ok i did continue

I very badly want to shake this writer and say that people don't talk like that

oh my good christ

xpost

i've seen it

xpost YOU'RE the stupidest idea for a movie ever

lol

No review yet?

even mentioning it on fbook was embargo'd till saturday! (see above)

i don't like reading about things before i see 'em, especially when they're getting as much love as this

agree

this seems like the stupidest idea for a movie ever

― Gene Shalit in a Child's Sailor Hat (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, September 27, 2010 1:41 PM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark

WHAT WERE WE THINKING

"this seems like the stupidest idea for a movie ever" - Shakey Mo Collier

Apparently someone has never heard about CATFISH: THE MOVIE (or WALL STREET 2: MONEY CHANGES HANDS).

ILE only likes movies ironically

ugh, there's srsly nothing stupid about this as a movie idea.

Glenn Kenny sounds OTM but haven't seen the film so: Anyway, you might be wondering what my larger point is, e.g., do I actually think this film is as good as All About Eve, and, yeah, I do, maybe. Most likely, even. And it's got snazzier visuals that are going to wear better than 95% of the other Snazzy Visuals of Our Time, too. (Godard, writing on Joseph Mankiewicz in 1958, provides a presage of why a Sorkin/Fincher teamup is close to ideal, and why Sorkin is probably smart not to try his hand at directing: "[T]he complaint one might make about Mankiewicz: ... he is too perfect a writer to be a perfect director as well. Basically, what is missing from The Quiet American is cinema. It has everything—brilliant actors, sparkling dialogue—but no cinema." Fincher brings cinema to The Social Network in a way that Rob Reiner absolutely could not for A Few Good Men.)

oh sorry, didn't mean to include the all about eve note; I meant to just paste the Godard parenthetical

hmm. as i noted the other day, 'the quiet american' was godard's fave film of 1958. he didn't really articulate what was missing, but you 'kind of know what he means'.

(MOD NOTE: I am assuming that posting info from 77 was a mistake...?)

maybe it was a plot twist

CatFishbook

ok All About Eve as a comparison point is the first thing I've read that makes me want to see this

I think I'm looking forward to this more than any film since the two Andersons follow-ups to Boogie Nights and Rushmore. All because of Zodiac--that, and the subject matter. I'm not sure if the Squid and the Whale guy can hold a big film together.

Of course, the immediate follow-up to Zodiac was Benjamin Button.

Yeah--which I had no interest in. So it's Zodiac + subject matter.

Zodiac seems like a fluke in Finchers ouevre, tbh. I pretty much don't like anything else he's done.

Me neither, but I think the problem with his movies is more often the source material than it's been his direction.

Kenny's starting point about All About Eve was that it's not EXCLUSIVELY about "NYC theatuh types" anymore than this movie has to be exclusively about Facebook.

ya exactly. the point is, it's never about the subject.

except for Paul Blart: Mall Cop

...and 5-8 movies opening at the multiplex every weekend.

peanut blarter and jelly

even mentioning it on fbook was embargo'd till saturday! (see above)

fuck outta here really??

Faceblart: The Movie

"...anymore than this movie has to be exclusively about Facebook"

That's what I'm hoping: that the phenomenon of Facebook is just a platform for something much bigger. Nashville, Boogie Nights big, where country music and pornography are just starting points.

Come to America

where country music and pornography are just starting points.

I wouldn't mind seeing this movie if it was about facebook the same way harold and kumar was about white castle.

Do you mean starting points for "themes" and such? Cuz the movies you cited are exclusively about their subjects.

(actually, I dislike Nashville because it doesn't understand country music, or rather, the country music was used as a starting point for something broader and more thematic that the material couldn't support).

kenny is rightly responding to lamers who sneer 'oh, god, how could a movie about facebook possibly be interesting', but there's nothing wrong with a film being about its subject. 'goodfellas' is at least part about the mob. you will learn something about the early years of the space program from 'the right stuff'. 'there will be blood' ought to be *more* about oil. the founding of fbook is a pretty extraordinary story. it isn't a docudrama. but it's not not about facebook.

imo can't wait for the Farmville and Mafia Wars movies

i don't think i'll see this movie anytime soon. facebook is enough as it is on the computer for me.

No--they're about...America. Just kidding--trying to say the most pompous, melodramatic thing I can think of. I am thinking of period, though; Nashville and Boogie Nights are (along with Wiseman's Welfare) my two favourite "seventies films," whatever you take that to mean. Boogie Nights may be primarily about pornography; for me, if it's about anything beyond choosing exactly the right song for exactly the right sequence, it's more about finding family in the weirdest places. Nashville, though, I'd say is much more about celebrity than country music. Not understanding country music--not even attempting to--was why Marcus hated it, I think. I don't understand country music myself, so that's not a big problem for me.

it isn't a docudrama. but it's not not about facebook

I am really interested in that story, too. I don't want to give the impression I'm dismissing that.

Zodiac seems like a fluke in Finchers ouevre, tbh. I pretty much don't like anything else he's done.

oh this is such fucking bullshit, it was his second to last film! zodiac is a very intelligent, very thoughtful film, it's not a fluke...i think robert koehler is otm in his review:

To watch Zodiac unfold is to witness a once-cocky and full-of-beans director of stylish and sometimes self-consciously postmodern movies grow up and turn into a fully mature filmmaker. A rock-hard patience is manifest on the screen at every moment, derived from comprehension—stemming solely from experience—that a story concerned with the exhausting, eroding, but also enlightening effects of time must itself require time to tell.

Isn't saying that you don't much care for Fincher's other films more or less what Koehler's saying too? "To watch Zodiac unfold is to witness a once-cocky and full-of-beans director of stylish and sometimes self-consciously postmodern movies grow up..." I didn't like Fincher either before Zodiac--hated Fight Club.

i'm not arguing that it's Fincher's only great (hell, good) movie so far (haven't seen SN obv), i'm arguing with the word 'fluke'

i <3 zodiac but that's a pompous-ass review

also fight club ruled fuiud

Will have to look up "fuiud"--I'm guessing "fu"'s a bad start.

I think of "fluke" as just meaning "not likely to pull off again," not a pejorative as applied to Zodiac itself. Thinking that Zodiac is thoughtful and intelligent but also wondering if it's a fluke based on Fincher's other films doesn't seem inconsistent to me. It's a minor point.

i mean, how does my post and the robert koehler quote not make sense?

robert koehler's point is that zodiac--fincher's second-to-last film--marks a turning point for him, that he's now a much more mature filmmaker who not only grasps the art of visuals but also the art of storytelling

it would make sense to call it a fluke if it was an early film, but it was 2007.

maybe a fluke in that it accorded with your sensibilities but not a fluke that david fincher made a great film xxp

ah, crap. if anything 'zodiac' *doesn't* tell a story. that's kind of its 'thing'. 'fight club' is a great movie; anyone who missed that wasn't paying attention.

xpost

if anything 'zodiac' *doesn't* tell a story. that's kind of its 'thing'

um, no

he's now a much more mature filmmaker who not only grasps the art of visuals but also the art of storytelling

Well, yeah, we seem to agree that he grasped both of those in Zodiac. I don't think that means that that's now a given with him--it's not unheard of for someone to make an atypically good film mid-career, is it? I'm off to see Uncle Buck and His Past Lives right now; I'll try to think of a couple of examples and post later.

i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry

has everyone been ignoring the reviews?!

9.9 out of 10 critics think this is great

why is anyone acting like it is a failure and that zodiac is a fluke?

(sorry, not 'everyone' but a lot of the people commenting)

fight club is great technically and pretty audacious (if cynically so)....panic room is limited but supremely well executed....zodiac was brillant, i suppose he needn't something more incomplete to work with, a corrective to the high-concept stories and baroque grunge of his 90s stuff

can kinda sympathize with his detractors in that his earlier stuff could be juvenile/glib/flashy and he's far from high-minded, but zodiac is clearly of the same lineage, a lot more accomplished but no accident......the near-perfection of staging, the valence of longueurs and intensities, the infinite sense of lingering psychosis that many have tried for since lynch but none have achieved so well - i'm not sure how that can be dismissed as a fluke

I am v impressed with the five song teaser for the soundtrack.

I believe I will purchase the whole soundtrack tomorrow on Amazon. For three freaking dollars, which is not an incidental detail.

can't WAIT for this.

Yeah I can't remember a movie getting such uniformly good advance reviews. The current Metacritc rating is 100.

guys, this movie has already failed. dvd release (quietly) forthcoming.

ya more like friendster the movie amirite

geocities: the film

think one million flying toasters is cool? try a billion.

Lost in the Wilderness: The ICQ Story

the founding of fbook is a pretty extraordinary story.

"So, Henry, what did the coders have to say about this schedule?"
"They say the schedule is too tight. It's going to blow!"
"We'll see about that! Miss Raggett, it's time for me to take a meeting with the project manager. This Wednesday."
(She gasps.)"This Wednesday? But, sir! Are you sure?"
"Miss Raggett, when I say this Wednesday I mean this Wednesday."

I am glad in retrospect that the sex change went off okay.

Any resemblance of any character in this screenplay to any person, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

Heavens.

To which I should add, avoid contact with skin. Sanitized for your protection. Contents under pressure. Dispose of properly.

Tape Store: I haven't, by a long shot, declared Zodiac a fluke. I really, really want The Social Network to be every bit as great. I'm just saying that it could be a fluke. I thought of four directors from the '70s who, for me, made one film that stands way above everything else I've seen from them, both before and after the film in question. None of them are perfect analogies, as the directors are of varying quality and the films came at different points in their careers. Anyway: Pakula's All the President's Men, Rafelson's Five Easy Pieces (only his second film, I think, so a weak comparison), Forman's Cuckoo's Nest (haven't seen his Czech films, so that might not be good either), and Ulu Grossbard's Straight Time. I love all four, and, based on what I've seen, I'd say all were more or less flukes. But I'm completely hoping that what you and I see in Zodiac carries over into The Social Network.

'fight club' is a great movie; anyone who missed that wasn't paying attention.

You think it was great, I think it was a load-and-a-half. People disagree. But "wasn't paying attention"? Where do you come up with this stuff? I was most attentive. And the more attentive I was, the cornier it seemed.

strongly dislike zodiac and love fight club, so put me down for rong. the social network looks like a case of balls.

Love Zodiac, love Fight Club more, though, even though I have HUGE problems with it. I used to think that I hated the third act, but I've made my peace with that. The second act is the real mess. Parts of it are even boring. But the first 30-45 minutes of Fight Club are and always will be untouchably brilliant.

pakula - parallex view is as gd as all the president's men
rafelson - the king of marvin gardens is as gd as five easy pieces
forman - larry flynt is as gd as cuckoo's nest

coppola - jack is as gd as godfather 2

You guys are not actually contradicting me, you know that, right? You're just peeing on the floor.

I like The Parallax View, but past the brainwashing sequence, I don't think it's especially memorable; All the President's Men, for me, is one of the great films of the decade (one of the reviews of The Social Network I skimmed mentioned it as the blueprint for the kind of a film Fincher's aspires to be). Not that big on either Marvin Gardens or Larry Flynt. I've only seen them once, though--I should probably watch Marvin Gardens again.

metacritic has 11 reviews with *no-one* having anything negative to say?! is this a first? i vaguely recall Inception going the same way.

inception got zinged for being idiotic by a pretty significant fraction of critics fairly early on iirc

there are (some) better films than exception though, so maybe its not a first

lol typo. calling inception exception sounds like a morbius joke without the joke.

here is a little clip of jtimbo btw

http://www.ifc.com/news/2010/09/postcoital-justin-timberlake-i.php

feel like they leak half the film these days, it's kind of lame

i've only seen that and the trailer

this looks great to me. but then i like pretty much every jessie eisenberg is in.

there's another viddy with five lil clips in it

is this a good film nrq?

my only and final evaluative word till it's out: yes

interesting if true

I like The Parallax View, but past the brainwashing sequence, I don't think it's especially memorable...

― clemenza, Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:29 AM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark

this is so high! the first half of the movie is a satisfying but almost comically cliched 70s thriller, replete with car chase, crooked southern sheriff and a chair-smashing barroom brawl. during the (nicely mind-blowing) interrogation sequence, however, the film drops that style and thereafter slowly mutates into a strange, nearly worldless series of high tension scenes framed like fragmentary moderist art, with action, identity and location always in question. the shift is so dramatic that you suddenly suspect that preceding action was a straightfaced parody of some sort. this depersonalized fragmentation reaches its apex in the extended final suspense sequence - one of the most genuinely experimental pieces of commercial filmmaking to come out of the 70s.

I like your description better than the film! I've seen it three or four times over the years, and actually just watched it three weeks ago (in connection with a radio show I did on the anniversary of Nixon's resignation); each time it seems less impressive. I do love the brainwashing, though, including the disembodied voice that introduces the montage.

yeah, i've seen it only twice, most recently over a year ago. and i don't know that i'd call it great, but it's a lot odder and more interesting than it often gets credit for.

that sequence where it cuts quickly between Paula Prentiss going out of her mind trying to convince Beatty that people are out to get her and her lying in the mortuary is brilliant. proper scary that first half. i still don't get how Beatty thought he could outwit the brainwashing. anyone care to clarify?

I love Paula Prentiss--I wish they didn't kill her off so early. Beatty did kind of outwit the brainwashing, insofar as he wasn't brainwashed; he just walked into the Oswald-patsy role in the process. I think...I'm always a little confused when I watch it.

It's a total headf-ck that film! I'm sure there are essays online somewhere that unpick the whole thing.

it's a fun movie, but certainly not a great one. Reminds me off all the JFK conspiracy paperbacks that came out in the '70s.

otm (i haven't read those books)

gordon willis is the key ingredient imo

i watch jfk this weekend by the way. barmy.

Jeff Jarvis hated it:

http://www.buzzmachine.com/2010/09/28/the-antisocial-movie/

can't wait for this Armond pan

jj's post was too long to read and the bits i read weren't smart

aaron sorkin otm, bloggers are verbose, whiney bores

critics shd've been forced to file their reviews via fb status updates

aaron sorkin otm, bloggers are verbose, whiney bores

Aaron Pot-Kettle

idk about prose, but sorkin can write, and keep yr attention; jeff jarvis is some feeb new media shill iirc. 'studio 60' *was* whiney tho.

when are you going to pan it, Morbs? do embargoes pertain to those who've not seen the film?

Haha.

:p

I am looking fwd, but going on a mini-vacation this weekend so will likely not see it until there's a break in the playoffs.

I wonder what movie AW will use to bash it? Maybe Film Socialisme, which I'm seeing in about 4 hours.

the net

whit stillman's 'metropolitan'

Hackers

Wow, The Net is dated in more than just the obvious ways.

The film opens with United States Undersecretary of Defense Michael Bergstrom (Ken Howard), who commits suicide after learning that he tested positive for HIV.

noooo fuckin way

omg

That was the first time I heard "the net" as slang.

That was the last time I heard "the net" as slang.

I'm pretty sure I heard George W. Bush say Al Gore used it in fall 2000.

The film doesn't have the same gravitas as Joseph Kahn's great 'Torque', and the softly feminine Jesse Eisenberg can't hope to match Martin Henderson's charisma or go-for-broke entreaties ("It's amazing what you can do when you have no choice.")

haha

noooo fuckin way
― If Airplanes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport (s1ocki)

omg
― l'avventura: pet detective (history mayne)

http://www.adobe.com/products/aftereffects/images/type_effects/Tag_Team.gif

v good, omar

I just learned that my co-worker is engaged to the girl who broke up Mark Zuckerberg while he was at Harvard

broke up with?

Apparently she didn't scatter the pieces in the Bay of Fundy.

I don't know the details and I haven't seen the film, but she was mentioned in a Rolling Stone article about him a few years ago

now I feel like this:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/my-sister-actually-went-to-school-with-ryan-reynol,18094/

Hoberman calls the girl who broke up w/ Mark Zuckerberg while he was at Harvard "Rosebud."

also sez first act of film is best

this girl

http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/images/2010/08/rooney-mara-the-social-network.jpg

And who's the one on the left?

Timberlake after getting the extensive CG make-up work Fincher is renowned for.

i c 2night

btw Rex Reed likes it

*david fincher exhales*

why are ppl (or just dr morbius) on tenterhooks for armond white's opnions?

basically because the psycho trolls at Rotten Tomatoes will have 2000 posts in 3 hours about AW "ruining" TSN's perfect score

trolls vs trolls

I suspect there's frontin' goin on when anything meets with 100% approval -- I've heard several people IRL badmouth Citizen Kane.

name names

Lol Soul Man!

http://www.nypress.com/article-21676-creeps-as-heroes.html

ah, we shoulda been thinkin Harvard

basically because the psycho trolls at Rotten Tomatoes will have 2000 posts in 3 hours about AW "ruining" TSN's perfect score

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 September 2010 20:44 (2 minutes ago)

i thought that was just an aggregator site (the myspace to metacritic's facebook) and was unaware it hid a commmunity of trolls

anyway, glad that some terrible ppl i never knew existed will get trolled, i guess

Harvard student Mark Zuckerberg re-popularized the Internet

a+ armond

I've never even heard of Harvard Man.

lucky you

The Social Network glibly accepts Zuckerberg’s selfishness as entertaining and nerd-cool—even when Zuckerberg allegedly betrays his Harvard university colleagues, cheating them out of a fortune.

Unless the movie plays out far differently than the trailer I don't think this is true.

I'm not that lucky. I've heard of James Toback.

harvard man is such a fucking insane movie

Even Harvard Man is no Soul Man.

ha oops, I was actually confusing Harvard Man with Soul Man

previous snark retracted

i'd watch a remake of soul man directed by michael mann

Or the Coen brothers.

TV’s Aaron Sorkin

oh burn! wonder if he'll say 'mtv's david fincher'...

Power-worship keeps Sorkin from making a What Makes Sammy Run? inquiry or Paddy Chayefsky jeremiad. Rather, he slickly exploits ethnic narcissism, yet never penetrates feelings of inferiority or competitiveness that made Eisenberg so moving in Holy Rollers, last spring’s extraordinarily soulful and chagrinned tale of a Hasidic youth’s worldly aspiration.

yeesh. really not sure about this -- especially when in the same par says zuckybro is 'apparently Jewish but only explicitly a smart, fast-talking Harvard dork'. where does ethnic narcissism come in if he isn't explicitly jewish? you can tell from the trailer that the zucks is not indulged (though it isn't a hatchet-job either).

Their shared backgrounds in TV advertising and prime-time diversion

there it is!

It’s disingenuous for Sorkin to prioritize Zuckerman saying, “For the first time in the Winklevoss’ lives things didn’t work out for them,” for really that applies to his own privilege.

no, no. it's (half-)disingenuous of zuckerman (um) to say it. that's the point. or half of it, because we also see what he means.

armond white sucks but his borderline personality disorder is always entertaining.

zuckerman!

oh god holy rollers was SUCH shit

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kxfux7EoVW1qz7o2oo1_r1_400.jpg

^ zuckerman

pale-skinned, curly-headed Jesse Eisenberg

i was close

http://cdn.fd.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/The-Social-Network-Armond-White.jpg

harf

zuckerman!

― just sayin, Wednesday, September 29, 2010 3:08 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Maybe he momentarily thought he was reviewing a Philip Roth adaptation?

lolling xp

why are ppl (or just dr morbius) on tenterhooks for armond white's opnions?
― The Managing Director of Being (nakhchivan), Wednesday, September 29, 2010 7:42 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

because he is the only critic that ~matters~ duh

armond is funny obv but he needs a taste editor to help him pick his targets; ~other ppl like it~ has been an editorial nagl since post-pitchfork 2003+

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Please tell me your review won't start this way, though:

Could it be that the person who founded Facebook, the man who connected so many individuals that the total defies belief (500 million and counting), is himself incapable of close personal friendship? Is it possible that the world's youngest self-made billionaire, a 26-year-old whose creation unites people in 207 countries using 70 languages, is the loneliest guy on the planet?

If that sounds like a hell of a premise, you don't know the half of it.

how did you know

It's a hell of an opening! I don't know the half of it!

Lots of numerals in there.

Bet he flipped through his AP stylebook a lot.

Anything to boost morale over at the LAT these days.

Flipping through its pages signaled activity in the newsroom.

think I glimpsed "faux-smart TV" in AW's review, which is admittedly what The West Wing is.

AW did like Scott Pilgrim, which was a critical success.

the ad i just saw srsly said "It will get you drunk on movies again"

LOL @ Ned's post.

And yeah, I love seeing Armond put up a fight! Hell yes don't back down Armond! Only you can tell the truth about the artless Hollywood cash machine!

Ned's posting of the LA Times review, that is.

Zuckerman Unfriended

think I glimpsed "faux-smart TV" in AW's review, which is admittedly what The West Wing is.

nah, fuck that. 'the west wing' is smart. i know this because i am smart.

It depends on what you mean by 'smart'?

"It will get you drunk on movies again"

Peter Travers, ladies & gentlemen.

"smart" is not thinking the modern White House can ever be filled w/ well-intentioned people.

show was pretty dumb then huh

okay I distinctly remember a time when Peter Travers didn't say things like that

like he was one of my go-to guys with David Ansen and Roger Ebert; between the three of them I could usually figure out if I'd like a movie or not regardless of whether they raved or panned, but reading that just tells me that Peter Travers needs to be punched

travs sucks

yea he is a giant hack imo

"smart" is not thinking the modern White House can ever be filled w/ well-intentioned people.

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, September 30, 2010 4:19 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark

they think they're well-intentioned -- the show is not that black-and-white, though. there's conflict; it's drama. think it's more accurate to say that irl white house staffers are not as 'brilliant' as the cast of 'the west wing'. but im willing to bet that richard iii did not speak as shakespeare had him speak (and that henry tudor wasn't really that much of a mensch).

Travers = autopilot

i dunno, autopilot isnt that inspiredly, floridly bad

But is that predictable.

the dynamite, dick-swinging script by Aaron Sorkin (The West Wing), and they both do the best and ballsiest work of their careers

...

the quotations of that review make me not want to see it out of spite.

I have lived my entire life hoping and praying someone would describe my efforts as "dick-swinging"

Dick Swinging the Chomping Duck

your modding totally swings dick, dan

*dies happy*

nrq, Richard III was a history play when it was written. TWW was contemporary Democratic I-wish-I-wish JFK/Clinton fantasizing.

but it could be hella good drama

Shame on The West Wing for not echoing Morbius's corrosive hatred of Washington.

It was good, clever drama with a strong dose of liberal wish-fulfilment - nothing dumb about that. Studio 60, on the other hand…

Armond has some more thoughts
http://www.nypress.com/article-21675-discourteous-discourse.html

what a baby

handling it over on this thread, but slocks otm.

i'm with morbs on WW, show was bullshit

Still proud of myself for never watching a single episode. A real accomplishment for a tv dork like me.

First two seasons are pretty great. You're missing out.

The first episode was great. Everything after that was terrible.

the first two minutes (of the series) were incredible, the rest was lame

The credits were outstanding; everything afterwards was downhill

the commercial before the pilot aired was so good

if you can get past the corniness, it's really well put together.

seasons 2-4 are all time fuiud

man when was peter travers ever good?

hey everyone

this movie was really fucking awesome

i feel drunk on movies again

seriously, this was the shit

oh yeah, trent reznor killed it

fucking FANTASTIC

best studio film since...zodiac.

AW did like Scott Pilgrim, which was a critical success.

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:48 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Same for the Hurt Locker, though that one turned into such a critical success he had to revise his opinion downward.

this was really good... tho some stuff in it kind of stuck in my craw... like the big crowd-pleasing dude breaks up with his asian gf scene that kinda came out of nowhere and was a bit TV or something

Have to agree that the Sorkinisms get a little out of control, but since many of them are coming from the mouths of douches, it's aiight.

Otherwise, very very good stuff. This might be my favorite Fincher outside of Fight Club; weird, since it seems Sorkin's in the pilot's seat much of the time.

man when was peter travers ever good?

1989?

how was Justin?

he played a preening douche pretty effectively

Yeah, I wasn't sure if my desire to punch him was because of his performance or just because it's him.

Andrew Garfield is acting MVP in this.

Tho I admit I didn't realize the twins were played by one person.

what!!!

facially, ya-hah

his/their scene with larry summers bro was amazing

eisenberg was really good imo

xpost, that scene was really enjoyably OTT

it's a funny movie. it is really stubborn in refusing to pin down its protagonist.

i mean, they're all kind of douchebags or entitled doofuses.

it really skirts around who it's supposed to be "about." i guess zodiac was kind of like that too.

Dana Stevens' take.

it really skirts around who it's supposed to be "about." i guess zodiac was kind of like that too.

― Enter the Noid (s1ocki), Friday, October 1, 2010 4:19 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

imo it's about a bunch of different things, and i dunno if i can tie 'em together

it is partly about what it's obviously about -- business ethics. the larry summers scene really matters; imo it's like the 'big speech' in 'network'.

it's a funny movie. it is really stubborn in refusing to pin down its protagonist.

― Enter the Noid (s1ocki), Friday, October 1, 2010 11:18 AM

i mean, they're all kind of douchebags or entitled doofuses.

― Enter the Noid (s1ocki), Friday, October 1, 2010 11:18 AM

well they got that part of the Harvard experience right, then

Love how Harvard pres knew his students were entitled douches before they even said a word. I mean, of course they are.

We're talking about Larry Summers here.

yeah, game recognize game

haha

imo it's about a bunch of different things, and i dunno if i can tie 'em together

it is partly about what it's obviously about -- business ethics. the larry summers scene really matters; imo it's like the 'big speech' in 'network'.

― l'avventura: pet detective (history mayne), Friday, October 1, 2010 11:24 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

ya but im talking pure story here not themes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VosUQQlgYxo

^ watch that immediately

ya but im talking pure story here not themes

it was... the early history of fbook! from the night mark zuckerberg started a hot-or-not website to the night it got its millionth user. refracted through two lawsuits that raise questions abt business ethics/the price of success/_______.

it's a funny movie. it is really stubborn in refusing to pin down its protagonist.

― Enter the Noid (s1ocki), Friday, October 1, 2010 10:18 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah there was one HUGE laugh line in our showing, tho i forget what it is atm

what's sticking to me right about the film right now is how incredible the pacing is -- it's legitimately like an action movie in that sense -- after it was over i felt like i had just watched "bourne ultimatum" or something

aside from the one big laugh line the movie had a bunch of other funny bits too

it was... the early history of fbook! from the night mark zuckerberg started a hot-or-not website to the night it got its millionth user. refracted through two lawsuits that raise questions abt business ethics/the price of success/_______.

― l'avventura: pet detective (history mayne), Friday, October 1, 2010 11:37 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

ya i know but it is still a "fiction" movie with characters and plots and subplots and stuff. it is still a constructed drama!

ya i know but it is still a "fiction" movie with characters and plots and subplots and stuff. it is still a constructed drama!

wait what?!

o yeah garfield's accent was A+

Still trying to remember what the "big" laugh line was. There were quite a few pretty big ones.

i mean, even it's based on real life, you still have to look at it the same way you'd look at a totally fictional movie. who is the protagonist? what does he want to achieve? i felt that they kind of kept you guessing in an interesting way - whether this is the story of zuckerberg, or saverin, or the twins. there's TONS of totally made-up or dramatically enhanced stuff in there to make it work as a movie.

is this movie more network or all about eve?

it's more parker lewis can't lose

The general atmosphere is very Macbeth-ish.

Both give women waaaaaay more to do than Social Network.

i mean, even it's based on real life, you still have to look at it the same way you'd look at a totally fictional movie. who is the protagonist? what does he want to achieve? i felt that they kind of kept you guessing in an interesting way - whether this is the story of zuckerberg, or saverin, or the twins. there's TONS of totally made-up or dramatically enhanced stuff in there to make it work as a movie.

― Enter the Noid (s1ocki), Friday, October 1, 2010 4:46 PM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah i know. i don't think zuckerberg is anything like eisenberg's character. this matters to some people but i couldn't give a shit. the protag starts out wanting to join the establishment; eventually he decides instead to overturn it.

he doesn't immediately know what he has his hands on -- 'we know that it is cool' -- but sean parker convinces him that it's really big. the winklevi think they're following an ancient code, but summers tells them that it's a dog-eat-dog world and always has been.

so the zuck's MO isn't really that new; but his website does do something new, and the film contains lotsa ironies about the nature of social networking, the quantification of friendship, death of privacy yada yada.

rashida jones gets to furrow her brow!

ya but the movie really kind of turns the tables on the zuck and makes it seem like saverin is the main character, at least in the last act (save for the final scene). thats all im talking about. the nuts and bolts.

turns the tables on the zuck

^^^ next Apatow movie title.

ya but the movie really kind of turns the tables on the zuck and makes it seem like saverin is the main character, at least in the last act (save for the final scene). thats all im talking about. the nuts and bolts.

― Enter the Noid (s1ocki), Friday, October 1, 2010 4:56 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark

im not sure about this. parker is still in the picture in a big way. that nightclub scene (v important scene) is in the last act isn't it? i *would* say that zuck at this point is not so much 'the main character' there, that it's kind of like an ensemble thing with three characters.

i think he is, sorta, until he becomes the bad guy.

<3'd this movie. I'm not sure it's possible to make a better film that revolves around lawsuits regarding a website.

saw this. it was alright

the sequel is going to be about the great News Feed backlash of 2006

aaron sorkin why did you make a cameo in this movie that you wrote.

james carville in assassination of jesse james shit.

the sequel is going to be about the great News Feed backlash of 2006

― markers, Saturday, October 2, 2010 1:37 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

oh FUCK, no way I'm gonna make a better joke about the facebook movie.

not even lol, more like (golf clap)

ebert

(oops)

ebert likes it http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100929/REVIEWS/100929984

I liked the Sorkin cameo. Subtle face, that guy.

Liked the movie a lot.

I know so much of the movie was fictionalized, but it sort of bugged me that it conflated Sean Parker and Shawn Fanning. I mean, it's probably not necessary for Sean Parker to say "I cofounded Napster with another guy," but there's also no way anyone would ever say, as the Stanford coed he hooked up with did, "But Sean Parker founded Napster."

That's a minor gripe, though. Good movie.

and having some goober ass motherfucker like sean parker being portrayed by international pop star justin timberlake

Good movie.

think this movie has inspired a nu round of facebook friend culling :/

lol

http://gawker.com/5653944/all-of-facebook-went-to-see-the-social-network-last-night

I really thought this was good. I agree with the comment upthread that you still have to think of it as a fictional movie. It's "about" Zuckerberg the same way that Shakespeare's play is "about" Caesar. I do mean that as a complement even if I wouldn't say it's quite Shakespeare.

I also thought that while this movie had the requisite biopic schlock, it kept that to the minimum necessary. I mean it's a movie about web programming, so you have to have the programmer get really intense when he asks for the algorithm, you have to have someone get up and run out of the room through the snow every time they have an idea. You can't write a movie like this with none of that stuff in it because you need some kind of action.

Eisenberg is too good-looking and likeable to play Zuckerberg, but he did well with it anyway.

my dad said that if he were zuckerberg he'd be upset that they didn't get a better-looking guy to play him and I was like whatever old man, zuck has no visible eyelashes and haters can go choke on shit

this movie sucked.

no, it didn't

it ruled

I'll tell you what scene didn't play: the Winklevoss regatta and subsequent conversations with crowned heads of Europe. Yes, they're Porcellian members and bluebloods. Ho ho.

Also, the last Parker party went on too long.

henley -- i can tell you first-hand -- is actually kind of like that, but idk if that guy's daughter could have watched the race on fbook in 2004.

and the tone was just off. PIP PIP OLD BOY I SAY, HAVE YOU HEARD OF THIS FACEBOOK THING? HAVE ANOTHER CRUMPET

i thought the winkelvoss convo with the royalty worked but the actual race scene looked like a mutual fund commercial or something

ha, yeah

and the tone was just off. PIP PIP OLD BOY I SAY, HAVE YOU HEARD OF THIS FACEBOOK THING? HAVE ANOTHER CRUMPET

― raging hetero lifechill (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, October 3, 2010 12:48 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark

well... those people very much exist, but they wouldn't have known too much about the internet in 2004. i was kind of jazzed to see henley on screen; but more could have been done, and it was an opportunity to have a non-male on-screen.

i think the tragedy of the winklevi was that they believed in a blue-blood code that does not really exist, and that's something you could definitely bring out at 'henley royal regatta', which looks ruritarian, and kind of is, sure -- but kind of isn't, too. no such thing as old money and all that.