― anthony, Sunday, 7 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
One thing I hate is when someone else says something I think is very well-expressed or even brilliant, and I can't think of anything good to add. So I just say nothing, because I can't even think of a good way to say "That's brilliant."
― Justyn Dillingham, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
i actually got asked this today in a record shop. and i answered ("sometimes"), and that was the end of the conversation. which was my fault. don't shoulder the blame for a conversation not working out. it takes two, baby!
― minna, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ron, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― anthony, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Jeff W, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― jel --, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mark C, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Pete, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― bnw, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ronan, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Ellie, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
In the end, though, I think that if the English are better conversationalists than us Americans, it’s because you lot tend to have a firmer connection with culture as a sort of communal thing to be discussed and referenced, whereas American conversation frowns on the involvement of free-floating culture: you’re expected to talk about Yourself and What You’re Like and What You’re Doing (and all- too-often How Fabulous You Are) and are not as expected to have opinions on cultural figures or lines of thought beyond the ones you personally are involved in. My experiences with Brits and western Europeans seem to indicate a greater stress over there on just knowing about non-personal things in general (current events, “culture”) for the purpose of discussing them with others; Americans, on the other hand, seem to get very awkward when conversation veers outside the scope of the conversants’ lives—I do too, even though I don’t want to. I think this is because we are mostly so sensitive and touchy and frequently chip-on-shoulder about other people knowing more or different things than we do. It’s like egalitarianism colliding with snobbery: “knowing about stuff doesn’t make you a better person than me” leads to “well then there’s no point in knowing about stuff.”
Oh oh but wait, the threads all come together: our common- conversation topics are basically sports and driving (at least on the male end). I’m assuming it’s only here that entire family holiday gatherings can be filled with lengthy very involved discussions of how everyone got there and whether there was road construction and how no next time you should take the third exit and cut through Michigan City.
Umm conversationally I used to be almost exactly like BNW, which is why I kept wanting to talk to him in New York. Then I started talking more. Now I realize I need to quit that because I have completely lost the ability to express myself verbally. I just grimace and wave my hands and say, “No, that’s not quite what I’m trying to get at…”
― Nitsuh, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Some would argue that PWEI itself does a bad British accent, so that's all right. Which prompts a question as to why PWEI get abuse for Brummie flow while the Streets get praise. ;-)
when my sistah lived in new york and i stayed with her and merkins werer trying to imitate our accents, we went into a bro-sis telephathic routine of being even MORE CLIPPED AND QUICK AND GLOTTAL STOPPISH than we actually ordinarily are. First they would laugh, then they would say: "But that is no longer comprehensible language." (Actually no one evah said that.)
FITE.
― Dan Perry, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Or you try to join in with something you think is realvent and it isnt really
I'm always paranoid that people are talking about something completely different to what I think they are (though they never are), so never involve myself in other people's conversations.
― Graham, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Maria, Monday, 8 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 9 January 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 January 2004 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)
But conversation. Terrible at it. I always feel like my face has this "oh my GOD you are so dull and I'd rather eat my own fingers" expression when I'm trying to look intrested when people talk to me. I get paranoid I do the "held the smile just that bit too long" thing, like I try too hard.
Mind you around good friends, in cosy circumstances, the flow is easy and intelligent. I just dunno why I cant bring myself to that with people I know not very well/at all unless I get drunk, and that another story I dont wanna go into right now blargh :(
So yes, I struggle sometimes. But I'm painfully shy.
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 January 2004 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)
Eg:
Person At Work: How was your weekend?Me: Good! Yes, a good one. Just took it easy. Yours?PAW: Well, we did some renovating blahblahblahMe: Nice one!
*end of conversation*
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 9 January 2004 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 9 January 2004 04:11 (twenty-one years ago)
However, I did discover that the IT guy went to school with the Young brothers and drummed in a school band with them prior to ACDC.
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 9 January 2004 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)
there are less than ten people in the world that i am completely at ease talking to. they are the people who best understand that i am not at ease, if that makes sense.
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 9 January 2004 04:52 (twenty-one years ago)
*cries tears of horrible horrible recognition*
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 9 January 2004 04:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 9 January 2004 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)
That totally makes sense, and if you saw my friend who replied to that whiny LJ post I made the other day, I'm ever so greatful I do have friends who think (and struggle) with this stuff like I do.
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:00 (twenty-one years ago)
Oh the humanity.
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:02 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)
I do like that phrase, it's very nicely put.
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:04 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)
Damn, I can't sing, dance, or play, why do I even call myself a musician? 'Come over for a jam, colin'. 'Oh, OK, I'll make the tea'.
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:08 (twenty-one years ago)
My voice is lovely only when I speak. Many a woman has told me I have a lovely speaking voice. Then again, many a woman has told me I'm a smug d***head, so...
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:30 (twenty-one years ago)
I like that song! But I'm weird. Hey, can I butt in on this Antipodean conversation and be the strange American? *drawls and wonders about beer and other things*
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)
ned is an honorary new zealander as he has watched shortland street.
Woo! I even know that LOTR actor Craig Parker was in Shortland Street when he wasn't being a raspily voice ethereal gay elf.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)
Haha, work hard Ned.
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)
http://jacketmagazine.com/graphics/robot.jpg
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 January 2004 05:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:29 (twenty-one years ago)
I dated a guy once who fell off his stool drunkenly at a nightclub and then hurled all over himself. I had to take him into the mens to clean him up. What a night that was hehe.
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:52 (twenty-one years ago)
... totally, ya got me?
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 9 January 2004 06:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Friday, 9 January 2004 07:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― oops (Oops), Friday, 9 January 2004 07:21 (twenty-one years ago)
1) So, how's your stuff [work] coming along?
and
2) So, anything interesting going on?
Gah! I hate these questions. They're so open-ended -- my responses 9 times out of 10 are "Fine" and "No." And the fact that he asks them so frequently just reinforces the fact that they're nothing more than small talk, that he's just looking for mindless chit-chat on the way to the soda machine. But Christ, I wish he was more creative sometimes.
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 9 January 2004 07:25 (twenty-one years ago)
1) Getting there!
2) Nah, not really. *If feeling very sociable, add:* Yourself?
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 12 January 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)